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Jan. 18, 2025 - The Leo Zagami Show

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ALIEN REVERSE ENGINEERING AND THE RISE OF CYBER SATAN

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	Ladies and gentlemen, we are closer than ever to the inauguration.
	Yes, yes, Trump is on his way to Washington, D.C.
	And of course, we are here.
	We are here, yes, for alien reverse engineering and the rise of cyber Satan.
	In the age of Trump, this might happen.
	No matter what, the irreversible rise of cyber Satan seems to be one.
	Of the problems of our era.
	We will be talking about this and much more.
	And we might even have a surprise at the end of the show.
	We might even give the possibility...
	That's what I thought you were going to say.
	We have various surprises today.
	Can I say it?
	Yes.
	We might ask...
	There's a second one.
	I'm supposed to be black on my face.
	Okay.
	So, in the meantime, welcome to the Leo Zegami show from Leo and Christy.
	Christy, who are today's sponsors?
	Marco Carrillo and Daniel Estes and Algarisada Minta.
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	Oh, Wes, Wes.
	Wes, also Wes.
	Very informative content.
	Thank you very much, Wes.
	And you wrote it down.
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	I'm going to have to go and find it though.
	No worries, no worries.
	Let's continue with our intro.
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	Welcome to the Leo Zagami show.
	We have all the proper intro, so that's it.
	Today's sponsor, PoliceStateVixem.us and XCOM slash arsonvictims.
	Plus, who are the others, Christy?
	Marco, Camillo, and Daniel Estes from Maldors.U. And Trump eventually won.
	We always have a story behind this opening tune.
	This tune was sung by Christopher Macchio when Trump went back to battle in Pennsylvania and is a tune dedicated to a victory.
	And so Trump won.
	And now, of course, like we stated just a moment ago, he's on his way to...
	Washington, D.C., where at the last minute they have moved indoors, just like it happened when there was the second oath of office for Ronald Reagan, who had an attempted assassination on his life.
	Prior to that, we have the same kind of scenario with Donald J. Trump justifying the whole thing because of alleged cold, glacial Arctic weather surrounding the premises that made it impossible.
	In reality, guys, there is a lot of security concerns and apparently they were even thinking of moving the whole thing in the White House.
	But a lot of people are upset because they, of course, had...
	Booked their flights, gone to Washington, wanting to see the president, not indoors, but outdoors.
	They will probably be still able to do that because there is some kind of parade going on tomorrow, this victory parade of Donald J. Trump.
	Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show!
	And, of course, Christy, we need a...
	Air conditioning!
	Guys, with all these lights, it gets always a little bit too overheated here in the studio.
	But we want to thank our sponsors who make possible for us this broadcast.
	And you can, of course, donate through GoFundMe or through Cash App.
	And like Christy anticipated, there's a couple of surprises for today's show.
	One of them would be the possibility to call in.
	We will put at least one viewer the possibility to call in.
	We're going to see how it goes.
	See how it goes, because technically we haven't done this for a long time.
	But our question is on the nature malevolent or not of Elon Musk.
	Do you believe Elon Musk is a good thing or a bad thing for Donald J. Trump?
	We will be asking this.
	To at least one, but maybe more, depending on the time, because we also might have a guest that will be intervening.
	We are not sure yet, but there might be a guest intervening directly from Washington, D.C., but we will be confirming that in a little while.
	In the meantime, welcome everybody to the Leo Zagami Show.
	And, of course, this weekend there is a lot of talk, especially...
	When it comes down to all the UFO enthusiasts about another whistleblower who is supposed to reveal new things.
	Now, who is this whistleblower and why it's so important?
	It is, of course, something to do with reverse engineering.
	Now, you know that I have been talking about this subject.
	For a very long time, especially in two books of mine, I've explained the importance of reverse engineering through, of course, alien reverse engineering in volume 7 and 8 in connection with the creation of Cyber Satan, of the artificial intelligence, of the digital prison around us.
	So this is a very interesting topic today.
	There will be actually an entire documentary that will be broadcast on NewsNation this weekend.
	As you can see from this article posted in the New York Post, we have Air Force veterans saw alien, non-human, egg-shaped aircraft while working for secret UFO retrieval program.
	You know that I have, of course, discussed David Grush, who has been another important whistleblower.
	But there is now, of course, a new whistleblower that is coming up with new revelations.
	And this could be maybe that announcement that just before the inauguration, Stephen Greer was talking about.
	A month ago, if you remember.
	Now, this guy is called Jake Barbier, and he was contracted by the military branch to work as a helicopter pilot to the sites of downed UFOs in secret retrieval programs within the U.S. Armed Forces.
	He saw visibly, with his own eyes.
	This alien craft.
	So let me just include a brief clip of what will be, of course, this whole interview that will be broadcast this weekend through NewsNation, so you can have a better idea of what I'm talking about, because it's all connected.
	It's all connected.
	It's connected also, of course, with Trump's inauguration.
	With the presence of what Joe Biden called the tech industrial complex, which is kind of like follow-up to the military industrial complex.
	So we have, of course, a lot of questions about Joe Biden's genuinity, because we know that he doesn't really...
	He's not totally honest about being financed by people like George Soros who even gave a medal for freedom and at the same time he criticizes the billionaires who instead are now supporting Donald J. Trump.
	But let's go back to this Air Force veteran whistleblower and his revelations.
	No sightings the military can't explain.
	Congressional hearings, Pentagon whistleblowers, armadas of strange aircraft flying over, of all places, New Jersey.
	What does it all mean?
	Well, since last year's groundbreaking interview with whistleblower David Grush, News Nation's been out front on this story, and we've got another major exclusive.
	A new whistleblower is coming forward, saying he's not just saying he's heard about a secret government program to retrieve UFO crash.
	Remains.
	He says he's worked on this program.
	He claims to have video to prove it and credentialed colleagues who back him up.
	And he has the attention of at least one senior lawmaker.
	News Nation's Ross Coulthard has been working on this story for more than a year.
	He conducted the interview for a special report airing right here this Saturday at 8 p.m.
	Eastern.
	And News Nation correspondent Joe Khalil is here with a first look.
	Joe, these are pretty stunning claims.
	Yeah, they are, Elizabeth.
	The man you saw in the video, Jake Barber.
	He's an Air Force veteran, and he is coming forward with some shocking claims.
	The first person to go public saying that he actually participated directly in a secret military program that he believes was to retrieve UAP or alien crap.
	Now, Barber says he was contracted as a helicopter pilot.
	He retrieved all kinds of crashed craft.
	Some of it, he says, top secret and explainable.
	Others, he says, however, he believes were non-human origin.
	It's not just him.
	We've got three other military veterans backing up his story on the record and on camera to News Nation.
	So take a listen quickly to just part of Ross Coldhart's conversation with Barber.
	So tell me about the moment when you realised that you were involved in a retrieval of non-human technology, alien tech.
	So it became very clear the first time our communication process and procedure was modified.
	And then just visually looking at the object on the ground, you could tell that it was extraordinary and anomalous.
	It was not human.
	How close did you get?
	Well, I was a helicopter pilot, and I operate with a 150-foot to 200-foot long line, so I got within 150 feet of this object.
	What did you see?
	I saw an egg, a white egg.
	Was there any visible propulsion system on it?
	No, not what we would know.
	There was no engine.
	There was no thermal signature.
	I was operating at night when I finally came in to pick it up, so I'm working under night vision goggles at the time.
	And it was quite clear.
	I flipped them up, flipped them down and looked at it a couple of different ways.
	How did you know that that egg-shaped object was non-human in origin?
	Well, visually, after seeing...
	All kinds of things in my past.
	It was clearly something that was ridiculously looking.
	It's inconsistent with anything I'd ever seen before.
	I can also tell you that the reaction by my team, we all knew we were dealing with something extraordinary.
	And at no stage were you ever subsequently told that the craft was of non-human origin.
	I will tell you that during this process, over the last couple years, it's been confirmed to me by ranking members of the UAP Task Force that what we were working with that night was in fact NHI and it was not a unique experience.
	Well, confirming, of course, the genuinity of these assertions is also high-ranking military who...
	told the news nation that basically he's genuine.
	This guy is genuine.
	He's not somebody who's making things up.
	Barber is apparently genuine.
	There is other high-level military veterans that are backing his story.
	So we will see, of course, just in a couple of hours, they will broadcast the whole documentary, which is another attempt, I guess, by Rose Coulthard, who has been very much on the case as an investigative journalist.
	But nobody's connecting, though.
	This whole reverse engineering with the rise of the AI and where we are now in our civilization, I mean, we have some incredible, shocking news in the last couple of days regarding the army of robots called Optimus that Mr. Musk is producing.
	He wants to produce up to...
	Half a million of these robots by 2027. And these robots will be used, Christy, part of them, only a small part, a thousand of them, to go en masse, which is, of course, one of the projects of Elon Musk.
	But half a million units by 2027, humanoid robots will be the biggest product in history, according to Musk.
	It's a new dawn.
	But the real question is, like this magazine says, the real question is, will humanity like what it brings?
	And so these Optimus robots, we have actually seen them already, you remember, in the fall when we did this presentation in L.A., you know?
	They are a little bit creepy.
	This is Elon Musk introducing the Optimus robot.
	Developed for our cars, the batteries, power electronics, the advanced motors, gearboxes, the software, the AI inference computer.
	It all actually applies to a humanoid robot.
	It's the same techniques.
	It's just a robot with arms and legs instead of a robot with wheels.
	And we've made a lot of progress with Optimus.
	And as you can see, we started it with someone in a robot suit.
	And then we've progressed dramatically year after year.
	So if you extrapolate this...
	You're really going to have something spectacular.
	The thing is that if Elon doesn't produce them, there is always the Chinese that are ready to compete.
	So here the problem is, Elon or the Chinese?
	Or is Elon also embedded with the Chinese?
	Like some people say.
	Like Elon Musk in the MAGA movement, Steve Bannon hates him.
	But the Chinese are also working on robots.
	Chinese Agibot eyes 1,000 strong humanoid robots army to beat Elon Musk Optimus.
	In the race, of course, also for the AI, like I wrote also in my books, by 2030, China aims to be the leader for this kind of technology.
	And this Chinese robotic firm, which was founded only February 2023 by Peng Ziui, who used to work for Huawei, is actually now rising as a very important part of what they call the Chinese robotic surge.
	And the robots are really becoming part of the year 2025 and of our economy.
	What do you think, Christy, of all this?
	Well, you're the one who came up with, you know, if you look up Cyber Satan, you wrote all about this in all of your books about how there was going to be a rise of this AI. And, you know, it's just, it's coming true, and I see it really terrible.
	I mean, it's terrible.
	I don't think it's a good thing.
	I think it's a bad thing.
	I think that there's too many evil people, and I don't like it.
	Okay, you don't like Elon, but like we said, Elon might be also the guy who might help America contrast the rise of these robots in places like China.
	However, how can you trust Elon?
	I remember when I included in the opening of the trilogy, my trilogy consists of Volume 6.66, which is The Age of Cyber Satan, Artificial Intelligence and Robotics.
	It consists of...
	Volume 7, which is a very important book, because here I start also explaining the reverse engineering of these UFOs, how it helped in the rise of the AI. And, of course, this is about the occult roots of the great reset and Klaus Schwab and his great plan for 2030. Then we have, of course, also...
	Volume 9, which eventually introduces also the quantum computers, the quantum prince of darkness, the ultimate phase of the rise of cyber-Satan.
	And in this opening of Volume 6.66, in one of the citations, I cite Elon Musk saying...
	I'm really quite close.
	I'm very close to the cutting edge in AI, and it scares the hell out of me.
	So he himself acknowledges the dangers of the AI, the dangers of something that might be uncontrollable.
	So we are here, of course, with the new revelations about reverse engineering that confirm everything I wrote in my books.
	And at the same time, we are in big trouble now.
	Yeah, because, guys, these robots, like I said, are becoming also from this year something different.
	They will be this year part of the economy.
	They will be part of the rise of a new economy.
	So it's not only...
	It's everybody that is working.
	We are on the verge of a great transformation and that's why I want to show you what Fox Business said yesterday about these latest developments.
	I find it very interesting that all of this is happening at the same time in a kind of weird synchronicity.
	I want to bring in Spear, Investment Founder, Chief Investment Officer, Ivana Lelewska.
	Nice to see you.
	One of my favorites.
	So, Jensen Wong, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk.
	I mean, this is the year.
	They're saying now, this is the humanoid robots, right?
	The year of physical robots powered by AI. I want to share with the audience.
	This is from Citi, folks.
	And these are the different sort of robots.
	It's just how quickly the growth is going to be, and this is how quickly they're going to be ingrained in your life, like it or not.
	Autonomous vehicles, that's going to grow by leaps and bounds, 17%.
	Domestic cleaning robots, some of you probably need that.
	I do, I'm not going to lie.
	Humanoids, drones, carrying robots like the guy needed on that spaceship, commercial cleaning robots, food, grocery delivery bots, food services bots.
	What do you make of this?
	I mean, is this accurate in your mind?
	You think it's going to come on this quickly?
	I do, Charles.
	And actually, out of this chart, I think the humanoid robots are the most interesting opportunity, as well as the autonomous vehicles.
	So if I had to zoom in on two categories, I think those would be the two.
	And Jensen highlighted during CES basically saying that humanoid robots, autonomous driving, and agentic is another category, which are robots that will work on your computer side by side by you.
	All three are going to be very important going forward.
	I interviewed Sam Altman.
	You know, we talked a little bit about, at some point, regulations, right?
	I mean, you know, our great fear is that the robots will hurt us, like that album cover.
	Where do you see regulations?
	Because you don't want to stop the growth of this, but we also want to make sure that humans are safe.
	Well, that's a very interesting question.
	So, for all three categories, there is different regulatory concerns.
	On one hand, you have agentic robots which work on your computer.
	Those, you don't need any regulation.
	And they're actually going to be very easy to implement because you can just install them and they'll work side by side with you.
	The humanoid robot, I think, was an interesting point that Jensen brought up, which is that they also work in their current infrastructure.
	So it's not like you need an extra lane to have a humanoid robot walk on.
	So that opportunity can also be very easily scalable.
	Autonomous vehicles are going to be the hardest because they will drive side by side with cars, right?
	That's going to be a key point.
	But I gave a theory in the beginning of the show why that won't happen, but you might have been in the green room.
	I got a theory on why maybe we won't be allowed to drive with them.
	Let me jump in here because I want to share your expertise on the investment side.
	Her work is some of the best out there.
	You recently upgraded this sort of schematic.
	I love it, right?
	Because it breaks it down.
	We hear AI, we just think one category, but you've got...
	Applications and in that enterprise and consumer, you've got the infrastructure, cybersecurity, platforms, all of these different things.
	It's just really amazing.
	There's a big universe out there with this.
	That's right, Charles.
	So there is an entire value chain.
	When you see an application, there is an entire value chain that's behind it, that's making it possible.
	So at the bottom, there is the hardware opportunity, which is the NVIDIAs, the Marvells, the Broadcoms of the world.
	But then there is a whole data infrastructure layer with companies like Snowflake, Cloudflare.
	Almost all of these are publicly traded companies.
	That's right.
	I'm particularly interested in the Japanese Snowflake.
	I mean, is that made by original Snowflakes?
	This sounds really scary, guys.
	2025, it's already getting ready to unleash not only...
	So you can have your own personal R2-D2-C3PO. And I think...
	What is Tracy saying here?
	Nothing.
	I don't want your robot.
	You can keep it.
	You can keep it.
	We would like to give the possibility, and we haven't done this since the pandemic, so rules have changed now.
	We no longer have fact checkers on Facebook that can bring us immediately into an alt, blocking everything because maybe of the wrong word.
	And also YouTube apparently now is getting rid of fact checkers.
	And X, of course, is in the hands of Elon Musk.
	So we want to give the possibility and we haven't done this for a long time to call us to participate to the show with maybe a question about.
	And also an answer.
	Because we would like to ask you, what do you think of Elon Musk?
	Is he a danger or a good thing for President Donald J. Trump?
	We need to know this.
	And the Trump universe is a little bit in conflict because of Elon Musk.
	We know that, of course, Sunday might be the day TikTok is also halted and paused.
	Of course, we also know that Trump has already promised to support TikTok and the CEO will be present at the inauguration along with Zuckerberg, along with Bezos, along with what Joe Biden has described in his last speech as the tech-industrial complex.
	So, this is very important.
	Now, you can call us.
	Our number will appear on the screen.
	You can call us from the US or from abroad.
	Of course, calling us from abroad, you have to add plus one.
	We haven't done this for a long time, but we are giving you, again, the possibility to call in and participate for the Leo Zagami show.
	And I think it will be...
	An opportunity for those who want to.
	The lines are open now, officially.
	The number is 970-577-6369.
	Call us if you want to have a chat about this specific subject.
	Now, we don't know if you are interested, but if you are, now is the time to call us.
	Fine!
	No problem then!
	The phone number is 970-577-6369.
	Leo and Christy, we are broadcasting live and we might also have a surprise in the coming 20 minutes or so.
	We are on the verge of a big transformation when it comes down to robotics.
	We are also on the verge of knowing more about this alleged alien reverse engineering program that has been with us for a very long time.
	And we have this inauguration, which is, of course, going to happen in a couple of days, but the idiots are already getting ready.
	Sponsored by George Soros, a bunch of drag queens, black women and other very questionable libtards gathered in Washington, D.C. We
	will not go back!
	We will not go back!
	We will not go back.
	We will.
	We will.
	Okay.
	Oh, please.
	Let's go.
	Hey.
	Oh, ho.
	Donald Trump is not to go.
	All right.
	I'm going to be the camera person.
	I'm going to go over here.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So I guess that the mother of all idiots is always pregnant and the produce is always being delivered.
	That's what they say.
	The mother of all idiots is always pregnant.
	When you see these kind of people in the street, it sucks to see these people.
	Some people were asking...
	Here it is!
	Here it is!
	Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show.
	Who am I talking with?
	Thank you, Leo.
	This is Tom.
	Hi.
	What's your name?
	Tom McCall.
	Ah, okay.
	Where are you calling from?
	South Florida.
	Okay, so is Elon Musk a good or a bad individual for you?
	I think he's too emotional to be anywhere near the government.
	Tell you the truth.
	Okay.
	At the moment he doesn't really have a really formal job.
	He has this doge role, but it's a kind of not really that formal.
	He may be intelligent, but he's too emotional.
	I mean, look at the HP1. He calls people and what he says.
	I mean, he's unstable for any kind of government.
	I don't know.
	I spent 21 years in the government.
	Okay.
	I think he's too emotional.
	Tell you the truth.
	I like this perspective.
	I guess it's a very clear and honest perspective of somebody who you said is a genius, but regarding government, that's another kind of thing.
	However, there has been a lot of talk about this.
	Can you hear that?
	Yes?
	Please, please.
	Yeah, it may be good for the government fund program, and that's okay, but he should not be in anybody's ear.
	Do you think he is, though, dangerous, like some people say, like Steve Bannon?
	No, no, no.
	If everybody takes his advice with a grain of salt and follows through and does research and that sort, no, he can be a plus.
	But, you know, like the Bible says, now that Jones says, he'll approve bias.
	Thank you very much.
	Do you follow us regularly?
	I do.
	I listen to you every week and I pick you up on that video when I miss you.
	I do.
	I love your show.
	Great work.
	Thank you very much.
	God bless you.
	We are now going to another listener viewer that unfortunately put the line down.
	So if you want to call us again, you can do it.
	The phone number is 970-577-6369.
	I guess you see.
	After the initial shy vibe, now they are calling us again.
	They are back.
	I guess we try to have two people on at the same time, but it's like, of course, our equipment here is not...
	The most advanced.
	We're trying our best, guys.
	I hope that also you could clearly listen to the caller.
	And it was actually a very interesting point.
	I mean, that was put forward.
	The guy is a genius, but in regards to government, he might be a little bit too volatile in his way.
	What do you think of Elon Musk?
	You already asked me.
	I think everybody knows what I think.
	You don't seem to like him.
	I mean, he shows himself.
	He wears a baphomet for Halloween.
	And, you know, he's an atheist.
	And he's into robots.
	He's into transhumanism.
	He's into transhumanism.
	And, you know, I don't think that from what I read from your books, it's not very good.
	And that this is what is going to bring Jesus back.
	So that's what I think.
	I mean, it's the evil to bring the good, but I don't know.
	I just wish that Trump would just get away from him.
	Honestly, that's my opinion.
	He's just too much there.
	He moved into Mar-a-Lago.
	Every time you see Trump, he's there like the friend that nobody wants around, but he's always hanging.
	And he has rented a $2,000 a day cottage in Mar-a-Lago just to be there.
	But God bless him.
	The guy maybe is transforming himself.
	God bless what?
	I hope that he can be exercised like we said.
	He might.
	They already did that.
	Okay, let's go back.
	You can't exercise a robot.
	Regarding robots, let's continue to see what are the economic developments that are seen as feasible by Fox Business.
	Let's share with the audience some of the names that you like right now.
	We're going to pull up in these respective areas some of the things you like.
	So, inside the rack.
	NVIDIA, MARVEL, ARISTA. I want to ask you about ARISTA because that's relatively new, right?
	That kind of got hot amongst Wall Street, you know, in the last couple of years.
	That's right.
	So ARISTA is a player on the networking side, and we think networking is going to be one of the key areas that is going to drive improvement of performance of the chips.
	So how you're connecting the chips will be key in driving performance.
	You've got Tesla in your applications now.
	Wall Street's got a love-hate relationship with it.
	Why do you like it?
	Well, we like it mainly because of the robot taxi opportunity.
	So I think the FSD side, which is autonomy as an application, is already priced in.
	I think the EV opportunity is priced in, but the robot taxi, if it happens, that's going to be incremental to the value.
	I saw a chart today from Morgan Stanley in a robot taxi.
	It's crazy.
	You're going to be taking a robot taxi in less than a year.
	I don't want a robot taxi.
	I absolutely don't want a robot taxi.
	We have another viewer online.
	Welcome to the Rio Zagami Show.
	What's your name and where you're calling from?
	My name is Mary.
	And I'm calling from Illinois, unfortunately.
	Hi, how are you guys?
	Well, we are in California.
	I guess that we have these blue hairs around us.
	but we are fine.
	I think that things will actually be transformed soon over there because it seems like Illinois, and in particular Chicago, will be hit by one of the first raids of the Trump era on Tuesday when this whole operation for mass deportation will be hit by one of the first raids of the Trump era on So who knows what's going to happen.
	I am sure, but I am far away from the city, so I'm not too concerned.
	But I just wanted to know if you guys were interested in...
	my take on what's going on.
	Absolutely.
	And we would like to know your opinion on Elon Musk.
	No, no, no.
	Very, very evil, evil, evil.
	He was born and brought up for this day and time.
	He will be ushering in, I don't want to say the Antichrist, but he is free.
	No, here's my take.
	When I was 17 years old, a New World Order pamphlet landed in my hand.
	I'm 50 now.
	Then, we were laughing about it because we didn't have cell phones.
	We didn't understand it's 4G, 5G. We're like, what is all this?
	So it was a conspiracy theory.
	I am living everything that was once a conspiracy theory come true today.
	We're living it.
	Did you ever hear the thing?
	It's one big club and you're not in it?
	It's one big club and guess what?
	I don't know if you're in it.
	I'm definitely not in it.
	We're not in it either.
	This was set up long, long ago.
	Long ago.
	I'm not saying Trump's the Antichrist, but he is, I mean, obviously, XRP, from what I hear, is going to take over the Bush system, and we know that Ripple has the chip that's going to eventually go in your hand.
	I heard the interview that the guy from Ripple had acknowledged that he does have that.
	So my take is, we are headed towards the mark of the beast.
	So, of course, you are criticizing here cryptocurrencies that a lot of Trumpians have found as positive, but there is a controversy around such cryptocurrencies.
	In fact, Christy herself has abandoned cryptocurrencies a while ago.
	I voted for him three times, yes, because I could not, even though I know where we're headed, I could not have that woman come back.
	That would have been a disaster right away.
	At least we got some more.
	In my opinion, I think we have a little bit more time.
	But even the Rothschild, I heard something that he even, they're all in it together.
	I don't think Trump is going to take us to the mark.
	Hands down.
	And he is, he has surrounded himself with new apostolic reformation people.
	With Noahide laws, that's all coming in to play.
	Hollow White is a big Noahidist.
	So, do you know what's the new Abyssalic Reformation?
	Have you heard of that?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	He is surrounded by them.
	Surrounded.
	So, for the true Christians, Bible-believing Christians, I believe we are headed into bad, bad, bad times.
	What's your case?
	I agree.
	Christy agrees.
	I'm on alert every day.
	She's on alert every day.
	I hope that that exorcism that was done by that traditional Catholic priest who went to Mar-a-Lago immediately after the elections were won, in some way has brought some kind of a blessing into Mar-a-Lago.
	Right, but the Catholic, no, no, no, I was brought up Catholic.
	I was reborn again many, many years ago.
	But the Catholic, they're not in the right direction.
	Yes, no, no, but regardless of the denomination, I'm just talking about an exorcism, and the guy is, of course, a very known exorcist, and so I was just hoping that maybe a blessing and an exorcism could at least...
	Absolutely.
	Thank you so much for calling.
	But if we all, if all of America would just go on their hands and knees and repent and pray to God, I think we can reverse this.
	Thank you so much for calling us.
	God bless you.
	And we unfortunately ended our small experiment, but it was very successful.
	We had a lot of people queuing up for calling.
	I'm sorry we couldn't answer all of you because we now have a guest directly from Washington, D.C. We have our correspondent, Kristen T. Harris, who will be also corresponding for Infowars.
	Here we have Kristen.
	Welcome!
	Hey, Leo.
	How are you guys doing?
	Welcome from Washington, D.C. It's been a very...
	Incredible day.
	A lot has been going on.
	When I got off the airplane and the airplane landed in Washington, D.C., the entire airplane was chanting, USA! USA! People are really excited about what's going on here in Washington, D.C., and people are coming from all over the United States in support of presidential nominee Donald Trump.
	As well as today, there were some counter protests that went on, Leo, but the spirit here seems to be very Americana.
	Very excited to see what this administration will do, and will it put its money where its mouth is?
	Well, thank you so much for intervening and for giving us already a perspective of what we have seen on the ground.
	You have arrived today to Washington, D.C., and of course you have noticed the change in preparations, no longer outdoors but indoors.
	What do you think about this choice by President Trump and his team?
	Well, I think it's a security.
	In order to keep Donald Trump more secure, they need more controllable environment.
	Because if the environment is not as controllable and there's all those people there outdoors, I think there's some risk that is involved.
	But they claim it's going to be cold, 20 degrees.
	It isn't that cold.
	I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which is north of Chicago, for those that don't know, by about an hour and a half.
	And it gets below zero.
	20 degrees, although it sounds frightening if you're in a warmer area like Palm Springs, California, where you are, Leo, it's not really all that terrible.
	If you bundle up, you get warm and get ready.
	I used to live in Norway, so we were acquainted with...
	So I completely understand, though, the choice of moving it just like Ronald Reagan did after he also suffered an attempted assassination during his first presidential turn.
	And then, of course, he did.
	He started, inaugurated his second presidential turn in this Capitol Rotonda.
	How many people will be allowed, though, to get into the Capitol Rotonda for his...
	I'm not sure the exact number, Leo, but it is just a fraction, a small fraction of the hundreds of thousands that would be here outdoors waiting to see the President of the United States or to come and experience the whole event.
	Now that it's moved indoors, they're opening up the local stadium and they're going to televise it there and they claim that Donald Trump will As well, be making an appearance at this hockey stadium here in Washington, D.C. But keep in mind, hundreds of thousands of people from all over the United States are coming here.
	And there still will be outdoors Megatron televisions for people to watch the inauguration.
	So I'm kind of curious to see what is going to happen.
	But I believe full-heartedly, after two assassination attempts...
	Like, what kind of security measures are you going to take?
	And I think it's a smart move for them to do that, not only for the climate-wise, but also in order to protect the President of the United States, who obviously has had egregious breakdowns in protection from the Secret Service.
	Yes, we have seen this service that we will be...
	Security officials are prepared after months of planning.
	From only 150 feet in the air, pilots dodge buildings.
	Flying in a grid over the National Mall to scan for radiological or nuclear irregularities, threats like dirty bombs.
	So you're trying to create a blueprint of what the radiation in Washington, D.C. looks like ahead of the inauguration?
	Correct.
	Department of Energy scientist Jacqueline Brandon calls this low-flying helicopter, one of just two of its kind, her office.
	If we find a radiological irregularity, we'll investigate it even further.
	Radiological irregularity, that's a bit scary.
	The thought of a dirty bomb is quite scary.
	What do you think about this?
	Well, you know, it's interesting.
	They really want us to be scared about this, but I think that most of the fear comes from the government itself.
	It's just like on January 6th when you called me.
	What was it?
	Four years ago, and I was there covering January 6th.
	And the whole reason for them barricading themselves inside the Capitol Hill was because somebody left pipe bombs outside the branch of the Republican and Democrat wings.
	But we still don't know who that is to this day.
	But they could find any person that was there outside complaining or that walked inside the Capitol and break down their front door and come and arrest those individuals.
	But they still don't know entirely who laid down those pipe bombs, which were essentially dummy bombs that law enforcement used.
	Christian, they were actually, I had also not only you, but other friends who were there, and they told me that the police was firing plastic bullets at them before they eventually entered the Capitol building.
	So, I mean, they seem to have also been instigated, as well as, of course, like I explained in Volume 7, which is, by the way, a book which is favored by the QAnon shaman.
	I described the whole thing as a sigh of orchestrated with the help of the FBI, which is, of course, one of those institutions that we hope the Trump administration will reform as soon as entering office.
	But what should the Trump administration and Trump himself do about the January 6th prisoners that are still there as political prisoners?
	Well, I think he should do what he promised he would do, That would be release most of them on day one.
	You know, I think that would be the right thing to do.
	I would kind of giggle if...
	You know, maybe Joe Biden did it first on his last day just so Trump couldn't, you know, but just in spite of Donald Trump, right?
	But I think in reality, I would like to see him release all the nonviolent criminals, the people that did not commit any crimes that just happened to be there.
	Just because you said something doesn't mean you instigated it.
	It really wasn't an insurrection.
	As we know, the whole thing was a honeypot.
	And I agree with you full heartedly, Leo.
	I think that it was a honeypot.
	I think it was something that they had the feeling that could happen, and they allowed it to happen, and they framed it as an insurrection, when in reality there was no threat.
	The pipe bomb most likely was dropped by an off-duty cop to give them the justification to make it look like an insurrection.
	And then they had sedition hunters, which are getting their direction from Bellingcat, which is half Antifa works for those organizations.
	Hunting their political adversaries and enemies, the Proud Boys and conservatives, and going after influencers.
	I have recorded on the Rundown Live, seven days before January 6th happened, a website where it said, turn in this influencer to Antifa and where their whereabouts are on January 6th.
	So they were there looking for influencers, and they wanted to record them, so hopefully to return them into the FBI. The whole thing was a very obvious PSYOP at some level.
	And Leo, I do have those videos still that show me talking about this seven days prior and showing on the screen Antifa's very own websites where they said report the whereabouts of these individuals.
	And majority of the 250 people on that website were on the FBI Most Wanted list.
	Is it coincidence?
	I would say probably not.
	I think it was definitely orchestrated.
	And I think they used Bolshevik tactics, where they used the law against their political adversaries.
	And that's what we saw on January 6th.
	And the leftists ran with it.
	They called it an insurrection.
	As a person, Leo, you know, I've covered over 200 protests in the last 10 years.
	I was a key reporter in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
	I was there at the George Floyd protests when they burnt down buildings.
	I've been in some very dangerous situations.
	And January 6th was not even in my top 10. Well, thank you for telling us that.
	I mean, from a month prior to that event...
	I started to tell all my friends, even in the Proud Boys and other groups, not to go because I felt really bad about what was about to happen on that day.
	And I actually stated that even on Infowars, which was very adamant about encouraging people to go on the 6th of January.
	I felt that was a trap from the very beginning.
	Now, we were asking during this show to our viewers their opinion about Elon Musk and your opinion about this sudden support by what Joe Biden has defined as the tech industrial complex.
	I mean, a little bit like Eisenhower's military industrial complex, which he himself, in fact, has also cited in the same speech.
	Elon Musk is a controversial character.
	Either you love him or you hate him.
	What is your take on it?
	Well, it's kind of like having a discussion about King Solomon, right?
	You have this individual...
	Who has the potential to do a lot of good, but yet he has all these nefarious things going on in the background.
	Brain chip interfaces.
	Yes, they're wonderful, right?
	They can help people potentially walk who can't walk, fix mental issues, amongst other things.
	And who knows what else the capabilities are for brain chip interfaces, until AI decides it wants to download itself into a human being, right?
	Or memory contamination, if you're sharing memories with another individual.
	Who knows?
	But Elon Musk is spearheading this technology.
	He's spearheading automation.
	And like anything else, it's a tool.
	It can be used for good or evil.
	And at the same time, we have Elon Musk dressing up in Baphomet-type outfits for Halloween and playing his favorite game, Diablo.
	And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with playing video games, Leo.
	I'm just saying that, you know, with all the good things that he has done to try to help free speech, there's also some underlying concerns and issues.
	So it's not unfair to say, hey, although I like some things about someone and their influencer, what about all this negativity that comes along with them?
	And I'm kind of concerned because Elon Musk could go either way.
	Is he King Solomon repenting for all his sins and evil doings as being one of the wisest black mages in history and coming to the Lord and God?
	Or is he just kind of playing the game and trying to find out where he can get himself in to better...
	Profit from it, like every other international corporatist who is trying to make money and find and wiggle their way up the power structure.
	Ultimately, if you are there for this inauguration, you are obviously not scared of a potential terrorist attack.
	But have you thought about that possibility?
	Yeah, I've thought greatly about the potential.
	My mother probably has thought about it more than I have.
	She's more concerned because I put myself in these positions all the time.
	Leo, I believe that the biggest concern for a terrorist attack may be coming from maybe these peaceful Palestinian protests because Hamas could embed themselves in that.
	It's really easy to come across the border here in the United States, right?
	The borders are basically free, and it's not just people from South America.
	Who's to say the terrorists aren't already embedded here and they're just waiting for the opportunity to spring out?
	And I don't really think at an event like what will be happening at the inauguration on January 20th will be primed for a terrorist attack.
	However, if there is an organization or cell looking to make their name, that would be the time and place to do it.
	I just don't see it happening.
	The risk is too big when they can find a much more weaker link.
	A much more prominent time to strike and have better results.
	So I honestly don't think it.
	I know today there were leftists that were holding signs saying that we should storm the Capitol.
	Not as in me, but as in the left, as in the liberals storming the Capitol.
	It's time for them to storm the Capitol.
	As if they were jealous that the conservatives did what they could never do.
	It's really interesting.
	To see how the political paradigm is switching back and forth.
	Now, as far as the terrorism goes, I do believe there's a legitimate concern.
	I believe safety is an important thing.
	I don't believe that, you know, that it's likely to happen.
	But in a gun-free zone, in a gun-free area like Washington, D.C., it could very well be a prime location to do something like a mass shooting.
	Christian, what do you think of these people, which I'm showing from this brief clip of today's protest in Washington, D.C.? I mean, they look like really the typical mentally ill libtards, because they are really mentally ill of the range, or they are mercenaries paid by George Soros, or both.
	Well, okay, so at today's event, there was a lot of antagonists and a lot of interesting people.
	And I won't disagree.
	I believe that there are a lot of people who are legitimately mentally ill and we are normalizing that under the guise of trans, right?
	However, I do feel sorry for the youth who are now educated that this is a normal way to be and are encouraged to act in some way, that it is brave if you change your gender, that it is brave if you change your genitalia, and that you are a hero for doing so.
	When in many cases, a lot of these people probably would have never done such a thing.
	Or, you know, a lot of them detransitioned back.
	Like, it's become to the point where I believe that mental illness is given, you know, a name.
	And not that we shouldn't treat our mentally ill right, but normalizing it so Big Pharma can make money off of it and going after children, that's a sin.
	That is corrupted evil.
	And that's a nation that I don't think God could support.
	The idea that you could go after children and mutilate them and try to get them to change your gender and change what God made them, you know, which is the being that they were coming out of the womb.
	Now, if you're 18 and you want to make those decisions, I fully support your right to decide whatever you want to be.
	I'm trans financial, Leo.
	I identify as a billionaire.
	My dollar bills are all 100s.
	And if you don't honor it, well, you're a trans foe.
	Well, you're transfinancial.
	That's interesting.
	As long as you're not transhumanist, because that's the ultimate development of transgenderism.
	Well, it's post-genderism.
	So, Leo, I have a confession to make.
	In 2020, I ran as a candidate for president of the Transhumanist Party, not because I wanted to endorse their philosophies, but I ethically wanted to challenge it in debate.
	And I would be interested...
	And a biological transhumanism, but not a mechanical one.
	By biological, I mean if we can live healthier, if we can take poisons out of food to live longer, if we can find natural cures for diseases, I support that.
	But replacing all my body parts to where I'm not human and I'm robotic and I'm living as long as Satan, I have no interest in that.
	One other question, because I know that you have touched a lot in your investigations on Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, of course, you have followed very closely, even too closely.
	But there is now some new revelations about Jeffrey Epstein's cellmates, who allegedly said that the late pedophile was offered a sweetheart plea deal if he gave incriminating information to impeach Trump.
	But he had nothing on him.
	What do you think about that?
	I would believe that could be accurate.
	It goes along with Trump's testimony that he landed on the island, he saw what was going on, and he got on a plane and left.
	But I'm not saying that I believe that Trump is all innocent either.
	He has his own issues.
	And I would like to believe that everything is peach and cream.
	But when you're a billionaire and you have that kind of money and power and do whatever you want, like I said, it's the King Solomon conundrum.
	King Solomon.
	He's known as the wisest man in the Bible, but yet he had sex brothels and everything else that they partook in.
	And he had a change of heart, and then he became a testament of all the good God can give.
	It doesn't mean that everyone is pure and holy and has done everything right.
	But I agree.
	I don't think Donald Trump got engaged with young minors or underage children.
	But as a person who researched this greatly, there was no evidence of that.
	But there was evidence that he did meet with Epstein.
	As did many other people.
	I mean, it was apparently at the end they kicked out of Mar-a-Lago because...
	Yes.
	Well, he got Virginia Roberts, one of the women that he later trafficked, came from Mar-a-Lago, Virginia Roberts.
	And the position of Trump was very negative in regards to...
	So let's see what's going to happen in the next few months regarding also further revelations that I hope will eventually come about Jeffrey Epstein because it seems like this list of powerful people that he was also blackmailing was powerful enough to never really have their names fully revealed, no?
	Well, okay.
	There's a couple of things here to unpack.
	First of all, I think that there's a lot of names associated with Jeffrey Epstein that aren't related to child trafficking because it is believed that he was also an arms dealer because of statements that he's made to other celebrities that he dealt arms, which would make some sense.
	Also makes sense why you do want blackmail and extortion on people.
	It would make sense also regarding the father of Dylan Maxwell because he was in the same kind of, let's say, he died also in very mysterious circumstances.
	So definitely that would make sense.
	But in any case, I would love to have you on my Italian show if you have time on Monday.
	Absolutely, Leo.
	You can have me.
	And I wanted to finish one conversation that we started.
	You mentioned transhumanism being the endgame.
	There is some truth to that, but I think the real endgame there is post-genderism.
	Post-genderism is where they want to remove genitalia altogether or make it so that children are born in artificial womb facilities and the women never have to give birth or men are designed with a womb so they both can have children or altogether remove genders completely and design children that no longer have reproductive organs.
	And then everything is made in a designer baby lab somewhere.
	That's the future.
	Remember, Leo, when I came to Palm Springs and you brought me to this ugly, satanic artwork with the babies crawling on the wall and they had barcodes on their head?
	What a prophetic piece of satanic art that was there, talking about designing babies and having everything labeled and putting little barcodes into their DNA. So they could track them wherever they go, almost like they had RFID built right in.
	Now, this weekend, the News Nation is bringing up another whistleblower who is bringing out new revelations about reverse engineering, alien reverse engineering.
	We share a common passion for ufology.
	We often met also a contact in the desert.
	What do you think about these latest revelations that are being given through NewsNation from a credible source who apparently witnessed himself one of these alien crafts?
	Leo, what's really interesting to me in this whole research on UFOs, by the way, I'm a certified field investigator for MUFON.
	And I've investigated...
	At least one case of UFO sightings.
	But I'm close to a lot of individuals who are the top experts in this area.
	And one thing I have been asking them is, where is the legitimate video footage?
	Where's the evidence?
	We're hearing a lot of hearsay.
	I heard from somebody who said that they saw, like, where's the evidence, Leo?
	And the other thing is, is any legitimate UFO video?
	That is confirmed to be legitimate.
	It's always the Navy.
	It's always the Army.
	So my question has been to these experts, who's to say that our government has not created anti-gravity technology and is using it against its own people or using it against the military to verify that it works before they decide to use it on our adversaries?
	Because it seems to be only the military that has legitimate, verifiable UFO videos.
	And although there's a lot of...
	Things and speculation out there.
	A lot of the videos that are out there can be explained by natural occurrences, by airplanes, drone technology.
	But there is something out there that is unexplainable.
	And from my understanding, from the experts I talked to, they use what's called KK gravitons.
	That's something that they most recently discovered in the collider that they had, the particle collider.
	And what KK gravitons are, are many...
	Black holes.
	So what happens is if you can create one of these hydrogen colliders, excuse me, those particle colliders in a smaller scale, it would create KK gravitons and it would make things weightless.
	Also, the reason why these UFOs appear and disappear is because they plug into the fifth dimension.
	They leave our dimension and they move a small amount in their fifth dimension and then they reappear here.
	That's why they look like they're skipping all over the place.
	But the anti-gravity is called KK Graviton technology.
	I confirmed that through Mark D'Antonio, who also is the top video forensic officer at MUFON, who validates what is a real UFO video.
	He also has worked on top secret classified government projects.
	Well, we have this Jake Barber that apparently was confirmed to be a high-level military.
	I mean, he was confirmed by high-level military to be an helicopter guy who was actually working for them in this retrieval, kind of UFO retrieval programs.
	Now, the reverse engineering subject for me is of interest because in my books, as you know, Volume 7, which I gave you personally, and also Volume 9, I connect this to the build-up of all this technology that is really becoming a prison for mankind in a way.
	So thank you so much for being with us from Washington.
	Thank you for joining us.
	Thank you for having me, Leo.
	And I look forward to joining you Monday.
	And one thing I want to finish real quick on the alien thing.
	I'm not saying that this planet wasn't colonized and that there aren't aliens out there, Leo.
	I'm just thinking that a lot of the ones that we're seeing now is our government.
	Where did they get the technology from?
	You're right, Leo.
	They reversed engineering it.
	They could be.
	One of the things that we're very curious about is also he's supposed to tell us soon after his arrival at the White House what is going on with these drones.
	I found out some information there, Leo.
	I had Mark D'Antonio on my program, and he spoke with the Department of Defense, and those are private contractors.
	Private contractors that our government has hired to go across the United States.
	I don't know what they're looking for, what they're mapping out, but by all means, it's not China.
	They would have shot them down.
	They would know that they are in our airspace.
	If they were hostile to us, they would have shot them down.
	Yeah, so they're definitely private contractors, according to my source.
	And those contractors are, I don't know what the scope of work is or what they're searching, but in Wisconsin, the drones that are car-sized drones are flying over the energy power plants, the electric power plants.
	I don't know why, maybe for the same reason they're going on D.C., they're checking for potential terrorist attacks.
	I hope not, but I believe that would be a justifiable use.
	Yeah, with those special helicopters.
	Well, we pray also for your safety and for the safety.
	Thank you, Leo.
	to this great inauguration.
	It's been a wild ride for four years in one of the worst presidencies that we all witnessed with Joe Biden.
	We hope that we can now make America great again, at least regardless of all the controversies within the MAGA movement and, of course, the presence of people like Elon Musk.
	I think it will be refreshing to see if we can really...
	The great motto says, make America great again.
	So thank you so much.
	I agree.
	On with us.
	And where can people find you?
	And will you also be corresponding, I think, for American Journal or for the Alex Journal?
	That is correct, Leo.
	You can find me on therundownlive.com, rumble.com forward slash therundownlive.
	Rumble is a great place to find me.
	Facebook, therundownlive.
	Kriston T. Harris, like my name says, on Twitter and on Facebook.
	And feel free to reach out, Leo.
	I will send you a link.
	You can link my stuff.
	Thank you for having me on, and I look forward to it.
	Yes, I will be on the American Journal on Infowars channel on Monday morning.
	I believe my time will be 9 a.m.
	American Journal time in Central Standard Time, 10 a.m.
	here Eastern Standard Time.
	And I will be covering things up to then.
	So if anything exciting happens, Leo, I'll let you know.
	Well, later on, I will have you on my Italian show.
	So that's going to be exciting also for my Italian viewers.
	You got to teach me how to say hello in Italian so I can say hello to everyone.
	I will do it.
	I will do it.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Take care of yourself and have a great weekend.
	We have also a parade tomorrow of sorts with Trump.
	Yeah, and there's a big event, a victory event that will be going on, and I will be live streaming this event.
	Okay, all the best.
	Thank you so much, Kristen, for being with us.
	Thank you guys for participating.
	to this show.
	It's always a pleasure.
	We had a lot of surprises now today with our show, Christy.
	We had the call-in from our viewers.
	We had Christian T. Harris reporting.
	I think it was a very interesting show.
	Absolutely.
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