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Oct. 28, 2024 - The Leo Zagami Show
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
We are here.
We are back again on the Colin Rivers Show.
Today we have two awesome guests.
We have Rafa Powell from Spain, one of the best researchers, conspiracy theorists, and truthers.
And besides, he's a writer, too.
He's got many books, different many books.
And also, Leo Zagami.
Leo needs no presentation.
He's been recently with Donald J. Trump, the next president of the United States of the world.
I mean, of America.
Of Amicia.
Of Amicia.
He's here.
He's here.
here what you say your regulations and And Leo has also the new book out, Confessions of an Illuminati.
I don't know if it's 120, 11.
No, 11.
He's on the 11th book.
It's still the past, present, and future of mind control from Zunzu to MKUltraBeyond.
So we're going to discuss about some things, but it's been current news.
Donald J. Trump is being, and we're going to talk about the assassination a little bit.
Donald J. Trump has been on The Rogan Show, has garnered a lot of critics and also a lot of success, what he said and he didn't say.
But here's a clip about JFK assassination, which actually interconnects with the assassination attempt that happened.
It connects also with this, huh?
In Coachella?
Yes, it interconnects with the fact that actually I was meant to give this book to him in Coachella.
And then what happened was that they arrested this idiot who showed up with a bunch of guns.
And now there is all kinds of hypotheses on if he was actually aiming to assassinate Trump.
As Riverside is saying.
However, he is saying that he simply had these guns in the car and that he's from Nevada, didn't know the local laws.
But the thing is that he was actually trying to enter with a press pass.
Now, if you...
If he knew the rules and if this pass was genuine, he would have gone through a whole security, a bunch of security checks from the early hours of the morning.
He arrived in the afternoon after the deadline for the press registering was 4 o'clock and he arrived approximately at 5 o'clock.
He brought the guns inside the security area because all the VIPs and the press had their own parking spot.
And this guy arrived there showing you this apparently fraudulent pass.
And then he admitted he had these guns, but it was very clear on the rules that we were given that no guns were allowed.
I mean, I wasn't not even allowed a simple spray like deodorant.
Let alone a gun inside the security perimeter.
So we had to give all my computers, my phones and everything to the Secret Service for a couple of hours so they could run security checks also on our car.
And this guy instead arrived there and he says that he was simply doing what he usually does when he is in Nevada.
Now, it's not a question of Nevada or California.
Since the two attempted assassinations of Donald Trump, There cannot be any guns within the security perimeter, the security areas of these events.
And I mean, it's normal.
I mean, we are talking about two attempted assassinations.
Now, this guy is saying, oh, they're depicting me like the new Lee Harvey Oswald.
Well, I mean, if you show up with a bunch of guns in your truck, Maybe they will think that you have something wrong with you.
So the situation is a little bit contested with this sheriff.
By the way, he did a great job, the sheriff here, and I also see, sorry, with my own eyes, The new security that was implemented after the 13th of July.
Now they have, for example, and I filmed it actually.
I have it somewhere.
I have a video of it.
They have a drone.
That is a special drone with a code that is 150 meters on the air next to where Trump is on stage that has something like 20 cameras that register everything.
They didn't have any drones in Butler, Pennsylvania on the 13th of July and that could have actually saved the day because with the drone positioned in the same way they could have immediately seen the guy that went on the roof But that day, of course, they let everything happen.
And now there is also a lot of questions in regards to this guy.
Because, you see, the FBI bypassed the local coroner.
They primated the body after only 10 days.
And this is something I discuss in my book, which, in fact, has the image of Thomas Crookes here and Lee Harvey Oswald.
Because he was definitely...
Somebody who was brainwashed to kill President Donald J. Trump and the same also with that other guy who attempted to assassinate him on the golf course who was definitely brainwashed by NATO, went to Ukraine and was what I will regard as a subject of cognitive warfare which is the latest kind of very much more insidious psychological operation because It puts together the elements of psyops,
of psychological operations, together with the data centers, artificial intelligence, and of course the monitoring of all your social networks and so on.
So it's much more insidious and they have a command center.
NATO has a command center in Norfolk, Virginia, where they have been conducting this new kind of mind control in the last four years.
And it originated in France.
It was back in 2002 they started this new project of cognitive warfare.
And in fact, the officer who is in charge there is called Francois de Closel.
And one of the places where they experimented this mind control activity was during the pandemic, Canada.
Because Canada is one of the most brainwashed countries on the planet.
As Raphael knows, they were involved with the Montreal experiments, as you know also, with Dr.
Cameron up until the second half of the 60s, and all these infamous experiments in MKUltra.
And then during the pandemic, instead, they were completely brainwashed by...
A campaign that was deliberately conducted by the military who then had to admit they were conducting this campaign on the Canadian people.
The Canadian people have been always subject to mind control activities and it's kind of...
I mean, of course, Canada is not America.
It's not the United States of America.
During MKUltra, it was the ideal place also to use the famous clause of plausible denability.
So there was all these people that in Canada also, as you know, the track drivers trying to descend from Trudeau and all that, but they didn't really accomplish anything because Unfortunately they are all mind-controlled.
Now you are of course showing the Madison Square Garden in New York City.
I think it's very important to realize the danger of this increasingly negative rhetoric that is being pushed by the Democrats.
Just the other day Hillary Clinton said that the Madison Square Garden event would be like a Nazi rally that took place there during During one of the worst times in history, in which there were some supporters of Nazism here in America.
But I tell you one thing.
Of course, Hillary Clinton, the Democrats started the Triple K and the Republican Party started to fight slavery.
Mentioned before this that Leo has a book out.
Remember, we're going to also present Rafa's book.
This is Confessions of an Illuminati, Volume 11, The Past, Present, and Future Mind Control.
You got it there.
Kindle, $7.99 and $15.99 on paperback.
It's delivered on Monday, if you want it, or Tuesday.
All stores in America.
And you have it also at Amazon.com.
Leo Zagami.
Let's pass on to this, because it's very important.
I just want to play a clip in which Trump, on the Rogan show, and we won't play anymore.
Because in this book, I say that when Trump, if Trump gets into the White House, he will deliver and he will immediately unveil the JFK assassination files.
I actually wrote it in this book, and he has repeated it during the Joe Rogan show.
Let's go in with a clip here.
It's very interesting.
I met from good people.
I mean, you know, look, I've been good people.
People that were well-meaning.
Mike Pompeo was one of them.
He's a good person.
They called me.
They said, Sarah would rather, have you not?
And I did open them.
But I was asked by some people not to open them.
There's a Martin Luther King file too, by the way, that they'd like to see.
I don't know if you know, but there is that.
But JFK in particular.
So...
They called me.
A lot of good people called me.
People that you would find reasonable people.
And they asked me not to do it.
So I said, well, we'll close it for another time.
But if I win, I'm going to open them up.
I'm just going to open it.
Why didn't you open it up the first time?
Because a lot of times...
What was the hesitation?
Addresses, people that are still living, there are people that are affected.
And there could be some national security reason that I don't have to necessarily know about.
But some very good, talented people asked me not to do it.
I opened it up, and then they said, would it be possible for us to do that a different day?
How much of it did you read into?
I think it's going to be just fine to open it.
Let me put it that way.
I think it's fine.
It's going to be time.
Rafa Powell from Spain.
Is it fine that he opens the file?
What is Trump or the people going to find in there?
What are they hiding?
What do you know, Rafa Powell from Spain, researcher, writer?
Yes, first of all, good to see you and thanks for having me here in your show and congratulations for Leo because of his new book.
So I have watched one hour of the three of the interview and my conclusion is that this interview was arranged Just 10 days before the elections in order to get or to put some signs of what Trump wants to do whenever he comes back to the White House.
And the JFK files is one of the things that, of course, of the people that knows these kind of things, you know, all the libertarians that are Part of the audience that Joe Rogans has are going to be very, very glad that he's going to open these files.
Some of the other topics that maybe we are going to discuss later on that Donald Trump told about in this interview was the UFO files.
Something about energy.
He was telling, you know, his contacts with Elon Musk in order to uncover some of the mechanisms, the tools, the new technologies that they have been hiding from the public and also the cutting of taxes and regulations.
So my conclusion is that this interview was Very well done and he has chosen the date to publish it in a very positive way and very clever because we are now only 10 days before the action and of course and I answered your question Colin is that you know the The John Kennedy's files are the sweet,
the sweet that every conspiracy theorist is reclaiming because all we know that from JFK files and the 9-11 files, all comes down.
And the other thing, yes, I agree.
I completely agree with Leo is that the NQ Ultra files And whenever the people discovered, maybe we are going to discuss this in this show, they are going to change a lot.
And I think, I close my intervention with that, is that, you know, what is happening right now with all the things around, the information around the freak parties of Bad Daddy, And all what the general public is learning right now,
I insist, about their idols and their involvement in very horrible things such as child trafficking and all this stuff with Adrenochrome.
It's going to be, you know, part of the heart awakened that those people that didn't want it, didn't want to know, to see what we for a long time were showing.
Now they are not going to have anything that, you know, recognize that they were hiding from the truth and they are going to admit it openly.
Actually, I would like to mention, to cite from my book here, page 209, this passage.
It says, however, if President Trump wins in November 2022, We may finally know the truth behind President John Fitzgerald Kennedy's assassination, as well as the attempt on his life on July 13th of this year.
And of course, there is also my own explanation why they are not revealing this...
Leo, Leo, let's cut to the chase, like they say there in California.
Yeah, no, I mean, you said it before.
Now, why...
And actually, the question was also given...
Why are they hiding?
Is the driver killed JFK? No, I tell you what they're hiding.
Several people, Israeli Jack Ruby...
No, no, no.
It has nothing to do with that.
Oswald killed the president, a joint operation, the Bushes.
What happened?
It has to do with the recruiting of Lee Harvey Oswald while he was in a marine base in Japan for Project MKUltra.
He was enrolled in MKUltra.
He was eventually given a mission to enter Russia.
He was given a thousand dollars to enter the Soviet Union.
and of course at that point there is also the suspicion that he was implanted at that time of course we're not talking about brain computer interface we are talking about an electrode that could activate him and this was actually revealed if maybe partially by this gentleman here who was also involved in the This
gentleman here was in charge with his sunglasses, very ominous, in charge of the CA division that day in Dallas.
Howard Hunt.
That's Howard Hunt.
Howard Hunt.
And he wrote this book under another name.
Where we control.
Yes, and he wrote it under the name Lincoln Lawrence and in this book he of course doesn't reveal it's the CA. He says it's the Russians who implanted the Liarvi Oswald and he blames the Russians for that, saying that the Russians put this electrode in his head during his time in Russia.
However, The truth is that in reality he was working for the CA all along as a Manchurian candidate and in fact the film Manchurian Candidate, which was also a great novel that came out in 1959, was taken out of circulation for 20 years after the assassination of JFK. And paradoxically,
it was actually JFK who gave Frank Sinatra the permission to go on with this movie, The Manchurian Candidate, which has, of course, also a modern version, the one with Denzel Washington.
In the one with Denzel Washington, for the first time, we saw the discussion in regards to the possibility of a brain implant of sorts.
As you remember, Raphael, there is a difference between these two movies and the main difference is that because in the first version is basically focused on the hypnosis and other coercive mind control things that they were, of course, doing During the MKUltra years, that was the focus of their experimentation.
You're showing now Cameron, who led the Montreal experiments, the infamous Montreal experiments, which were characterized by a method called psychic driving, which included Also some terrible coercive techniques which there was also an artificially induced coma and other things which eventually will lead actually to class actions from the victims
of it.
But like I said earlier, Canada is a mind control laboratory and they eventually got out of the last class action that was moved against the state By saying that the law they had in place couldn't be used retroactively to charge a foreign state because, of course, the US is a foreign state for the United States.
But Cameron was a very dear friend of the head of the CIA, this gentleman here, Who started this whole program of MQ-Ultra with all the various sub-projects and the one of Dr.
Cameron was sub-project 68, one of the most infamous ones.
JFK, Rafa, we're going on to Rafa also because he has some points.
You wrote this book, The Murder of the Music.
It's there on Amazon, and it's very interesting.
I read it too.
Well, I read all Zagami's books because I always read Zagami.
Also, one fact that he pointed out the Corporation of America.
Jordan Maxwell used to talk about this.
But Rafa, in your book you said Sam Cooke, people like Kurt Cobain, Many other artists, even Paftidi involved in that as handlers.
So there's handlers, there's managers, there is a lot of people killing each other.
Elvis Presley...
And Grauman used techniques because...
First of all, I want to complete the information that Leo gave us.
There is another very funny thing about Big Ultra and all these...
Conspiracy, the Manchurian candidate that is Welcome Mr.
Chance by Peter Sellers.
It's very funny, it's a not very famous film in which someone who is dumb became a president and you know...
He was a gardener, I think he was a gardener, no?
Yes, that's it, that's it.
It seems it can be seen as a stupid film, but at the end, what we have now in the 21st century is something like that.
We have a lot of people arriving at the role of president.
And just finishing Kennedy's topic, my only point, I agree completely with What Leo said is that we have a very important meeting before Kennedy assassination in the Marching Zone Ranch in which several people,
several important people of Texas, Lyndon B. Johnson included, you know, they organized the crime.
And for me, the smoking gun of this killing is the photograph in which a young George Bush senior appears in the library from which one of the snipers fired the ballets.
So that when Donald Trump says that he cannot reveal some of the names because They are part of the people who are alive.
It's because someone who was a president, a citizen president of the USA, was involved.
So that's in the moment in which he opened the files, you know, there is a crisis, a state crisis, because you cannot follow us as you were working as a president.
With this thing in history, because from that moment on, what we have is a dictatorship.
But, Rafael, Trump talked about cleansing.
If you listen to what he said later, he says the country needs a cleansing from these acts that were committed in the past, as evil as they may be.
And of course, While he was in the first presidency, he didn't have a complete detachment from the military-industrial complex and what they were orchestrating around him because he failed many times in judging the people.
A lot of Trojan horses, that is what he explained In the first hour of the interview that the problem is that he faced because of all the people in which he trusts on But later on, it was proof that there were not people loyal to him.
Because he was still trusting those people from the swamp, from what he then defines the swamp.
Not only.
What he said in Johan Rohan is that, for instance, in one hand, the politicians that know their work in Washington, D.C., they were all corrupted.
And when he picked Someone outside of the Washington D.C. field, in the business field, you know, he has to research all his previous life because nobody knows what he did when he was in his 30s or 40s with a woman so that nowadays they research everything in order to get one girl that,
you know, he has relationships in university.
It's almost impossible to find someone who is completely clean, you know?
And this is one of the things he said.
And we are watching this, I think, probably in Italy is happening the same now.
You know, as long as you have all your story in the social networks, you have all, you know, conversations.
But that's why...
It's very difficult to choose the people you are going to trust on.
But that's why, Rafal, I talk about this new method of mind control, which includes taking all your information from data centers, social networks and whatnot, which is this cognitive warfare, which is now led by NATO. And also after the reform,
the amendment that was done in 2012 to the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, Because the Smith-Muth Act of 1948, done under Truman, forbidden psyops on the American people.
With this amendment that was done in 2012, they can now blast us with psyops and it's much more difficult than to take a legal stand against them.
Though there were a couple of journalists from USA Today that took a stand against them, you have to really have evidence.
And how you can have evidence of somebody who enters your computer or is very difficult, almost impossible, especially if you yourself have put this information online through social networks and so on.
That is also the threat that we have in the future, the threat of quantum computers that will, in a way, bypass even the present threat of artificial intelligence, because at that point they will be able to enter every single file we ever produced online and all our passwords will be worth nothing, as well as even the blockchains.
My God!
And you know blockchain is the backbone of crypto and everybody now says crypto, crypto, crypto and I say while you are still in time just change your crypto for gold because crypto is worth nothing in front of a quantum computer and even if they try They will probably try to update the security against the quantum computers,
but the fact that just last week the Shanghai University has announced that they can break into all the cyber security of the bank, even of the military, I mean it means that soon we're gonna have a very big problem at hand with the unleashing of quantum computers.
This is very great.
Hang on, Rafa.
Because it's getting a heated debate here.
It's not a debate, actually.
No, I think that we're all agreeing that we are all bringing out different perspectives on the same subjects and we are enriching it with our own experiences.
And I'm very glad for you, Colin, to have put together this great discussion today.
Yeah, because Rafa Pal has, I see here, almost 140,000 followers.
And this brings up a lot of people that are watching now online, even people, they say on the chat, they understand English.
Guys, go to an English class or something.
You see that we are not originally, all of us, American, but we are trying to communicate in one language, Spanish, Italian, or American.
If Leo can speak Spanish, we can do it in Spanish.
Well, I wish I could.
Unfortunately, my father was born in Chile.
He always criticized me because I told him I can only know one Latin language at the time.
Unfortunately, he's Italian and not Spanish.
We can manage.
I will study, I promise you, more Spanish in the coming years because, like I said, part of my family comes from Valparaíso and from Santiago in Chile, so I have actually family still there and I would like to communicate in Spanish.
One good thing.
So this is interconnected between even music and social media and everything.
Let's go on to the Puff Diddy case before we go on further and how the Puff Diddy case is actually helping, because somebody brought it to life, is helping Donald Trump's campaign in here.
How is that helping?
In journalism they always tell you that you have to start with the news, you know, the present news.
So that after all these years that I assume that Leo is When I was researching all these NQ Ultra and media and cultural wars and cultural brainwashed, we knew that in the first decade of this century,
they started to portray, to show openly in the video clips of these girls, these NQ Ultra slaves such as Britney Spears Miley Cyrus, Christina Aguilera, Shakira, all the symbols of the Illuminati that he for sure knows so well.
It was the time in which the previous research that we have been working on for a long time were confirmed openly.
And now, at the present moment, we are watching one of these many topics that we were covering for a long time, in which, you know, the connection between the industry and cinema, you know, the music industry and the cinema industry is out in the open,
knowing that, in one hand, you know, These black rappers have been through an homosexual ritual for entering this Illuminati sects in order to become famous and they have used teenagers,
boys and girls, to record all these rapings In order to get these people as slaves of their agenda.
And you know, the connection between both fields, the cinema and industry, It gives us a picture of the whole thing, of the whole conspiracy of the idols in which, using them, they are brainwashing the people.
I was talking with a friend before this interview, before this show, we were discussing that You know, from what they did to, for instance, Miley Cyrus that, you know, she was loved by a million and millions of girls in the first years of this century.
Whenever Miley started behaving as a sexual toy, A lot of girls that now are maybe in their 20s or 30s, they became expressing themselves as whores, as bitches, following their idols.
Now it's free and open and for a rock follower of the rock music, maybe this is something else.
This is something different, you know, because this is what people call pop music that is supposedly something more, you know, commercial.
But whenever you go and do research The beginning of the Rock and Roll era, you have to assume that those Elvis Presley, Johnny Perkins, Johnny Cass,
Little Richard, all those, Chuck Berry, all those people who were very young at this age, Jerry Lee Lewis, and they were doing Some of these crazy things that we are now using.
Of course, they were not the same, but when this hippie movement in the 60s and 70s started and all these drugs addictions, They acted as the idols to make all these generations to do the same.
Cyrus and Britney Spears and Lady Gaga have done in this century.
Now, you talked about the 60s, but the 60s is by no coincidence within those two decades in which MKUltra was operating from 1953 to 1973, And of course one of their major playgrounds was San Francisco which produced this culture of flower power but at the same time also the dark side of it which was for example the Church of Satan.
I wrote a whole book on the subject of basically Satanism and the Illuminati and Freemasonry within the entertainment world and Hollywood.
In fact Here it goes from the very early beginnings of Hollywood, right to the Beyoncé that you showed before, who is part of a sorority, by the way, a very influential sorority, but also the connection with the Pentagon, which we have in Hollywood.
It was after World War II, that the Pentagon in 1947 established in Hollywood entertainment liaison offices known also as ELO and in 1948 it was actually this guy called,
there was a guy called Donald E. Baroque Who was very influential and also he was succeeded in 1989 by another guy called Phil Straub and these people, they also went through all the movies, films, everything that was produced in Hollywood to give either their active support Also,
you know, when you're making, for example, a movie based on the CIA, on the military, on the Second World War, you always search for some support from the military, obviously, but also because of what they were producing in line with the propaganda that they were pushing.
At the same time, Hollywood became also another laboratory where to push people to the use of LSD. And everything that was produced musically or cinematographically in those years was pushed behind the scenes by the gurus like Timothy Leary and others who were simply in some way promoting the LSD. You see,
LSD... was a drug that was experimented with NK-Ultra and was produced by a laboratory called Sandoz in Switzerland.
They bought at the beginning something like $300,000 of this LSD. But when they had so much request, they actually asked the local company, Lilly, pharmaceutical company, To produce LSD so they could flood the whole market and flood also music festivals like Woodstock, which are experiments in mind control.
I mean, we think about Woodstock as a great liberation artist, Jimi Hendrix and the whole thing, but it was actually an experiment on thousands of people that were left fueled with this LSD for days.
So, Rafa Pal, please.
Yes.
Completing your information, I have to add something about Leonard Cohen.
Yes.
Okay.
Leonard Cohen, he was seen as an outsider inside the hippie movement because at that time he was in his 30s and all these people were much younger.
They were in their 20s.
Okay.
So what has emerged in this, the website years, I called it because We used to read, Colin, we used to read a lot of information, not watching videos.
Do you remember?
So at that moment, it appeared that Leonard Cohen in Canada, in Canada Leo, because he was Canadian, he passed through an NQ Ultra program.
They gave cocaine to him and also And then there is someone who appeared in the last years, that is an ex-girlfriend, Leonard Cohen's ex-girlfriend called Ann Diamond.
She has a lot of information.
You have to listen to the interviews because he said that he He maintained that Leonard Cohen was an agent, a Mossad agent, that he was collaborating with the Mossad in different things.
For instance, in Munich, in what the Mossads did with the Palestinians there.
Do you remember these killings in the Olympic Games?
And also other operations.
So she recommended to listen to a song that is commander-filled written by Leonard Cohen in which he portrays himself as you probably know there are a lot of songs that are autobiographic and this is something in the open with the hip-hop music they were calling they were when they were singing or you know doing spoken words they were They were telling
us what they used to do in the mafia area.
That's the point.
That's the same thing with this Leonard Cohen's son.
And there is something else very important because see this woman, Anne Diamond, she met Mick Jagger and a lot of artists because of And this woman affirms that Mick Jagger was trained,
okay, listen to this, was trained by the Tavistock Institute because he used to study, I think, economics, not something related with cultural theme or anything else.
He was good at numbers and This woman said that Mick Jagger was trained by the Tavistock Institute.
And if you add the figure, the character of their manager, Andrew Oldman, that he was the one who was involved in the, how do you say, minifalda, miniskirt?
Miniskirt, yeah.
The mini skirt fashion, you know, he was very good on tendencies and, you know, he was, this Andre Oldman, the one who invented this dualistic struggle between the Beatles, the Good Ones and the Rolling Stones.
Absolutely.
We have a lot to discuss about the managers and the producers and so on.
Let's go on.
Hang on both.
Good boys versus bad boys with the Rolling Stones and the Beatles.
But there is also another element.
Mick Jagger did the soundtrack for Invocation of My Demon Brother, which was recorded in the former Russian Embassy in San Francisco, at the height of the MKUltra project.
And there was the participation of people like Bobby Besoleil, who then went on to become members of the Manson family.
And actually, Invocation of my Demon Brother lays it all there.
And the soundtrack is by Mick Jagger.
So he had sympathy for the devil because he actually liked the work of Kenneth Anger.
So, I mean, Kenneth Anger...
It's one of the subjects I discuss in this book because I also knew him personally.
He died not so long ago and in this book I show also a letter he wrote me once and Kenneth Anger was the guy who together with Anton LaVey, Roman Polaski and other people founded the Church of Salem in 1966 as a sort of experiment to make Satanism more poptastic Rather than over-intellectualize it like Aquino's going to do later on and like it was done prior to that by Aleister Crowley.
Michael Aquino in the military, yeah.
Michael Aquino was part of the 7th Battalion, like I explained in my latest book, of the psychological operations and this battalion at the time was based in San Francisco And one night he went out for the premiere of Rosemary's Baby in 1968, and that's where he actually met for the first time Anton LaVey, who himself was actually working for MKUltra.
And Michael Aquino didn't really like the methods of MKUltra.
That's why he will give birth in 1980 to the new concept of Mind War, which He then shared in the early 1980s, he went around all the NATO bases in Europe, and that's where he laid the foundation for what is now called cognitive warfare.
Yes, I have something to add, connecting with all this California and hippie conspiracy.
I'm going to read the numbers, the names of of the people, of the musicians that were...
whose parents or whose fathers were military.
We have Frank Zappa, his father was involved in biological warfare.
John Phillips from the Mamas and the Papas.
Mama Cass also from the Mamas and the Papas.
David Crosby from Crosby, Steel& Nas.
Chris Christopherson, that he was Janis Joplin Handler, okay?
And this is very connected with the MKUltra theme.
Jackson Brown and Jim Morrison himself.
Jim Morrison was...
Jim Morrison is particularly relevant because he gives the name The Doors.
Now, The Doors of Perception is the title of Adolf Axley's book.
And Adolf Axley at the time was in charge of program MKUltra.
So it kind of like...
It helps understanding also this connection between MKUltra and the Tavistock Institute because the Tavistock Institute was established after the experience of the Tavistock Clinic during the Second World War and then people like Ados Huxley were sent here in California to work instead with the CIA on the same kind of coercive and mind control methods that were experimented at the Tavistock.
Can I finish my comment?
Absolutely.
I have also left the name of Joan Baez, the Spanish singer and Bob Dylan's girlfriend, that his father was involved in NQ Ultra programs.
Okay?
And then I'm going to read some songs that are, you know, NQ Ultra experiments.
But I have to say that near Laurel Canyon, that it was the neighborhood where all these people lived, and we have this information.
I cannot forget his name.
Thanks to Dave McGowan, who was the author of a book talking about the Laurel Canyon conspiracy, about all these things.
He was my master.
But at the same time, naming Joan Baez, we have Her song, 33rd of August, in which I recommend you to listen to this song because she's speaking about the voices they are speaking inside her mind.
Of course, The Sound of Silence, Simon Garfunkel, that is completely MQ Ultra, Alan Parsons' Eye in the Sky, And of course, many, as me, who were, maybe you, because we are almost the same age, we were the police fans, you know?
We were fans of skin and the police.
And we, whenever, when we awake, we discovered that the sun, every bread you take, is something very close of the policial state.
Every bread you make, you make it safe.
Someone who is watching all the movements you are doing.
So that, for me, this particular song that is something important for me.
Very bizarre, very conspicuous.
Yeah, it's something like we, as a generation, the three of us, we were modeled in order to get accustomed to these things of the...
Everywhere, camera, recorded in the whole city.
So that's, even in our time, no?
I will add, somebody's watching me by Rockwell with Michael Jackson in the chorus.
Because, I mean, that was a classic.
My point is that we, as the 80s generation, we were, you know, brainwashed in a way.
Because when you start to listen carefully, if you know English, of course, because at the time, for me, at least I didn't know as much English to understand what they were saying.
But when you awake and...
And watch again, rewatch all these video clips you start seeing and watching things that you have never thought about it.
And I got a lot of songs that which their video clips are astonishing, are amazing, are awesome.
They're amazing because also they had the satellites pointed on the Soviet Union and video clips with MTV became propaganda and psychological warfare.
So they had also this element to weaken the state of the Soviet Union and the communists and show How the life was fantastic in the capitalist world.
So there was also that.
The police made a comment about this, that he was working with an antenna guy in America that called him and then he wrote Russians in The Dream of the Blue Turtles.
After that antenna guy that talked to him, you know, checking the signals coming from Moscow, from the USSR. But we're going to go on to Flash News to wrap it up from Leo about Halloween.
It's very important.
And then we're going to wrap it up.
Not before saying this and mentioning these two books.
First, the book by Leo, Confession of Illuminati, Volume 11.
You have to have it.
Great conversation.
The past, present, and future mind control from Sun Tzu to MKUltraBeyond.
Things that we were talking about just now.
For the first time, Leo Zagabi reveals a true story, brainwashing, psychological operations calls.
PSYOP and Mind Control connected to Illuminati and the New World Order from Zunzu, China, MKUltra.
PSYOP, Soldiers in Modern America, and the Satanic Cyber Gaze thing.
And then we have The Murder of Music by Rafa Pal.
Rafael Palacios, P-A-L-A-C-I-O-S, is the author, The Murder of the Music and the Creation of the Country Culture.
Things like Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Jim Morrison, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, la-la-la-la, Tupac Saccour, Pav Didi, Michael Jackson, etc., etc.
Why do so many reports on the test of the music stars country with each other?
And that's great here that we have.
But now we go to this news flash from Leo.
Sorry, that's not the news flash.
Go to X. A Halloween ritual planned by Satanists and witches to make Kamala presidential.
Each month under the glow, waning crescent moon.
I understand this.
Leo, can you lay out these things?
Well, I've already denounced this in volume 7 of my confessions because since 2007, early 2007, after Donald J. Trump was installed in the White House after he took his oath of office.
This Freemason called Michael Hughes devised a ritual which was then published and it became so successful that thousands of witches started to, every time there was a crescent moon, they started to enact this ritual to bind Donald J. Trump.
But now it seems that things have got even worse after the arrival of Kamala, the witches of course started again.
These witches and warlocks that are headed by a woman that has devised a new ritual that will take place on the night of Halloween and it's a ritual That is being called Future Casting,
in which all these witches, there is approximately a hundred, but many more will probably join in because she has a mailing list of 25,000 people that have been contacted for the event, because more people join in, more the egregore It becomes powerful and they will shut their eyes and project Kamala in the White House.
Now, I hope that never happens.
I hope that future casting doesn't work out.
Just as the prior ritual that was devised by Michael M. Hughes, which is also supporting this latest initiative, he also published a book in 2018 called Magic for the Resistance, There are all kinds of rituals to fight Trump.
I mean, it's really insane.
I would say it's not only insane, but it also shows that witches, feminists, satanists are all in it together to fight Donald J. Trump.
And they really disregard Christianity.
They actually view Christianity as the enemy.
Now, it's not because we want to be fundamentalist Christian here or evangelist or whatever, but it is...
Very interesting the fact that Satan seems to like Kamala Harris.
I mean, that Satanists like the Satanic Temple, for example, give their endorsement to Kamala Harris and the Democrats.
And Satanism, Rafa Pal, since 2012, I don't know if you have followed the development and establishment of the Satanic Temple, it has actually evolved in something much more political.
I mean, with Anton LaVey, it was more poptastic.
With Michael Aquino still going on the Oprah Winfrey, it retained some elements of that poptastic horror show.
Nowadays, instead, Satanists claim a political role, as well as the witches, even the witches of Salem, have gone on the news here in America saying that they are against Donald J. Trump.
That doesn't make, I think, witches better in the eyes of anybody.
Witches, of course, in the past, when the Inquisition were put on the stake, at times they were put on the stake because they were actual witches.
At times they were put on the stake.
Because of bigotry and because maybe they did something wrong to the local powerful person and they got punished in that way.
But it's true that the Sabbath of the witches took place and it's true also that they take advantage of these specific dates And the night of Halloween to this day is considered by Satanists worldwide as an opening of the gates of hell,
just as the day of Walpurgas, the day that Adolf Hitler died, is considered also in that period of the year we have other rituals that are part of this ancient pagan tradition.
Yes, yes, good point, Leo.
You have mentioned that the Satanists are now...
Openly acting with their supposedly judge.
And it connects very easily with the musical theme, you know?
Because as we mentioned before, the moment in which 2010, something like that, they began to show their symbols, their satanic symbols in the open.
And most of the singers, particularly girls, Starting showing these kind of things in their shows, in their live shows, is the moment in which we realize that, in fact, these singers are also witches.
Somebody who I am following in Twitter, that is called Ariel, sent a few months ago a list of the highest witches in the world.
Of course, the first one is Marina Abramovich.
By the way, she was honored by the Princess of Asturias.
She won the title, the prize, two years ago, I think.
Then Lady Gaga, that is One of her followers, of the best followers, then Hillary Clinton herself, then Beyoncé, then Oprah Winfrey.
And she said that also a lot of mothers.
I don't know.
This is crazy, but this is what he said.
And I want to add something because The moment in which we are living now, in which the Satanists express themselves in the open because they thought they have won this war against God, is the moment in which many of the people that switches from God to the idols, From God.
They don't believe in God anymore, but yes, they believe in their actress and actors and musicians and they think that are almost God or football players, for instance, Cristiano Rorano, Messi or whatever.
Then, when you realize that these basketball players, such as Saquille O'Neal, for instance, or LeBron James, that we know for sure that are involved in this, is the moment in which you realize that those people that you admire, That you used to admire as free people, as people who can do whatever and they have success.
In fact, they are not free people.
They are slaves.
They are doing what they have.
The people who are above them, they told them to do so that they have no reason for the people to admire them.
But the other way...
Rafa, there's definitely a lot of compromise when you are either an artist or a sports person.
If you want to do it successfully, you will have to compromise with the system, and you will become a mercenary of the system.
So the idea that even the artist, for example, like you said, you mentioned a music artist, and in my book, Volumata, I showed also Mick Jagger together with Gillian Maxwell, for example, Or the fact that Lady Gaga was embraced by the Queen of England but also by Joe Biden and she is of course satanist.
I mean she did a documentary for Netflix where she used the music That was composed in prison by Bobby Bessolet for Lucifer Rising.
I mean, you can't be more obvious.
These people are Satanists, and Hollywood has been the home of the Sabbatean Frankist heresy of Judaism, which is also very important.
And you mentioned Leonard Cohen, in fact, which is a Sabbatean Frankist.
As you mentioned the Jewish team, I have to add some data about the managers and the producers.
Remembering that...
Let's not forget to say what kind of Jewish people they are.
They are progressive, reformed Jews.
They're not traditional Jews.
There are a lot of coincidences when you realize that the Beatles' manager was Brian Epstein.
And remember that John Lennon said Sunday, once in a time, he said that he had fun A relationship, sexual relationship with Brian Epstein.
We have also Alan Klein.
Alan Klein, that he was the manager of Sankuk, Sankuk's manager.
And we have also Paul Rothschild, that he was the producer of Johnny Joplin and Jim Morrison.
And let's not forget Clare Davies, that he's the real one in the music industry.
He's still alive.
And he was involved No doubt in the murder of Winnie Houston and he's one of the mentors of Paul's daddy.
He was the one who talked How to do the, you know, this kind of blackmailing with recording this sex with a child.
And he's one of the, you know, survivors from this 60s time.
And he has made contrast with Bruce Springsteen, with Alicia Keys, with Blood, Sweets and Tears.
A lot of people in the funky era A lot of them.
And whenever you go up, up, up, you watch.
You have to realize those are the Sabbateans that are at the top of the pyramid.
I mean, Roman Polanski.
Roman Polanski, of course.
He just gave money to a minor, another minor who he apparently abused back in the days when he was still living here in the United States.
Roman Polanski is still a fugitive by US justice.
This is something that people need to know.
He received Grammy Awards, but I mean, he's a fugitive from justice, this guy.
And nobody...
And Woody Allen.
Don't forget Woody Allen.
Yeah, Woody Allen, total pedophile.
He has a sexual relationship with Mia Farrow's daughter when she was a child.
Yes, absolutely.
And let's not forget also the role of Mia Farrow herself, who went with the Beatles in India and with that guru.
They were doing all kinds of things.
So, I mean, there is definitely a lot of deprivation and a lot of perversion.
But the thing that we are seeing with Kamala Harris is basically all the friends and victims, but then they became something else, like Hasher or, for example, Beyonce, who did the orgies with Jay-Z. All these people, Are the stars of Kamala's rallies.
So there is a big difference, definitely, between Trump and Kamala Harris.
One is parading all these stars who are part of the problem.
I mean, Beyonce should be ashamed of herself.
Beyonce should tell us more about what happened in those parties, in those freak-off parties with PDD. She doesn't say anything.
She's part of the problem.
So let me add something, Leo, because we have for sure American audience, but also English or Italian or Spanish.
And what we are realizing Now is that those people, they are not liberals.
In fact, they pretend to be liberals because they were recorded doing bad things and that's why they have been blackmailed and that's why all the people think I think that, you know, the cultural people, the people in the spectacular industry, on the cinema industry, they are all lefties, but not.
The thing is that if you, the people who are not blackmailed, They cannot get this good contract, good deals, and to act in good films and, you know, to be...
help to be something famous in the music industry.
So that...
We can connect this with our own countries, Colin.
Because here in Spain, it happens the same thing.
Whenever there is someone, a singer that, you know, for instance, you know our reality, Leo.
For instance, with bullfighting.
Bullfighting is considered something right-wing and so on.
Boxing.
I went to bullfighting when I was 16 in Barcelona, and I also ate the bull after, so I'm a total sinner in the eyes of the left.
If you are in Spain, you cannot say that you love bullfighting.
I don't know, Colin, if you love it or not.
I don't consider a good practice to go around cows in the field with a lance, with the rockets, you know.
But the thing is that everybody, the consensus, the cultural consensus, is something, it's a fake.
Because, in fact, those people are not free people.
They are pretending to be free, and the proof came with the plandemia.
The pandemic.
It was very important for me to tell the audience this because this confirmed all this conspiracy.
Why was it important that an Irish singer and composer such as Van Morrison started to deny the COVID scene and all the The measures that the government imposed on us and made our countries into dictatorships.
And why it was important that Eric Clapton following him Because those people had a lot of fans and they jumped into the public opinion without the media, the media in itself, without the, you know, the help of the media.
And that's why this is my point.
This is my real point.
My point is that all these stars that they died so young, in fact, We're the ones that could...
Could not be controlled, I think.
Tell us in advance what is going to happen.
And this is why they killed Bob Marley and John Lennon.
They were the biggest ones.
I don't know.
I think...
I asked you something.
I asked you something to both of you.
Colin and Leo.
What would...
What would happen if John Lennon and Bob Marley would have been alive in this pandemic?
Do you think they will be shut up?
No, absolutely not.
I think that definitely they had a sense of freedom that unfortunately overlapped with the interest.
And in the case of John Lennon, unfortunately, he had a very bad company with him because Yoko Ono to this day is one of the worst globalists who even praised the time of the Georgia Guidestones.
And the Georgia Guidestones were actually evidence of all this.
That's why during the pandemic they were blown up.
You see, they couldn't leave any traces and evidence of what their plans are.
And so that's it.
They've blown up the Georgia Guidestones.
And I think that is very significant of the times we are living.
We've gone completely over time, guys.
We have to leave it here because we want to keep one hour.
It's been really heated, interesting, overwhelming, intense.
I think Rafa Pal and Leo, they have so I think another element about the Joe Rogan-Trump interview was that moment in which he asked about the people from other planets, the UFOs.
That was an interesting moment, and it will be interesting to see what will happen during Trump's presidency in regards to the possible disclosure.
What do you think, Rappaparte?
Well, what I can say is that I want to repeat this because we are going to leave a lot of big news and I think that we form all together a good team.
So we have a lot of things to discuss.
We can be discussing for hours and hours and it was a pleasure for me being with you.
It's a pleasure.
Nice to have you all on the show, guys.
Rafa and Leo, two heavyweights of the heavy champion of the conspiracy theory movement, the truth-seeking movement.
This is Colin Rivas here.
We'll upload this onto the Alex Jones show if they haven't banned it yet.
I commend...
Yeah, Bando Digo is still surviving on borrowed time.
Yeah, I'm serious.
This week, things coming, the Halloween ritual and everything that Leo said.
Great about Rafa.
They're doing the ritual, but we need to pray to counteract their evil thoughts in their fourth form.
America for Trump, Trump for America.
I completely agree.
Make Trump great again.
And God bless the world and God bless America.
But in particular America, because I tell you, these elections, which will be the most...
I just received my ballot.
This is the first time I will vote because this year I became American and are the most...
Are the most consequential elections over time.
I mean, the problem is that after the result, a Vesuvius is about to erupt on one side or the other.
So let's see what happens.
We need to really pray that there will be an overwhelming majority for Trump.
And no, you know, they can't create a situation whereby they will contest the election in any way, shape or form.
There is already so many fraudulent things happening behind the scenes in many states.
And with both, you know, the possibility that illegals can vote.
These people are showing reproductive freedom.
But reproductive freedom, you know what it is?
It's called human sacrifice.
That's what reproductive freedom is for the demoncrats.
Just something to add, Colin.
Sorry.
One minute.
One minute.
One positive thing for the people above all in the USA. The military are acting right now.
They are acting right now.
They are taking the people who are trying to fake the election and they are doing good things so that they are not going to allow again the wrong election.
Be sure that they are in control.
Have faith and go vote.
Go to vote because We want Trump to win in a landslide.
Absolutely.
In a landslide.
Listen, thank you, Leo Zagami.
Go to leozagami.com.
Don't forget Confession of Illuminati Mind, Volume 11, the past president featured mind control from Zunzu to MKUltra and beyond.
And you have it there.
He's been to Coachella with Trump.
There you go, Confession Illumination.
We trap 107,000 people!
Better than any Coachella.
Rockstar, man.
Rockstar.
Rockstar quality.
Absolutely rockstar.
We are going back to Mars with Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is just coming here.
He just called me transgender.
You are gay.
You are transgender.
Bye, guys.
Bye, Camellia.
Bye, Camo Harris.
Bye, Leo.
Thank you, Alex.
Good.
Stay there.
Until tomorrow.
Bye, Alex.
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