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Aug. 14, 2024 - The Leo Zagami Show
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INSANE UKRAINE IS ESCALATING WORLD WAR 3
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The last time we had him on, we talked about his brand new book, Confessions of Illuminati Volume 10, Islamic Freemasonry and the Secret Societies Behind the Eternal Conflict in the Middle East.
I also recommend going to his website, LeoZagami.com, and he has some excellent articles he's always putting out there, and you can read his bio, which is like unbelievable.
I mean, Leo, I can see why you're still alive after going into the Illuminati and basically coming out and talking.
So you had a lot of people in your family that were in some very high up positions, and I think that's helped you out.
Well, I guess I'm here.
I'm still alive.
I had to fight, though, for my freedom.
And I am still alive, but I had to renounce to a lot of things.
So the list is quite long.
I'm not going to start with it, because one of the first things I had to renounce to was my own son, which I also dedicated my last book to, Volume 10.
Which I never saw since February 2008 because what happened there was that basically they threatened me.
I had published for the last two years while I was in Norway between 2006 and 2008 my blog, and they feared what I was publishing on this blog.
And ultimately they threatened me many times.
They even came to the house where I used to live, and in the end they convinced my now ex-wife, former wife, to side with them for convenience, because the brother was aiming to side with them for convenience, because the brother was aiming to achieve a new position within for actually, because the brother was aiming to achieve a new position within the secret service as he was prior to that in the police and he wanted to advance his career by selling because the brother was aiming to achieve a new position within the secret service as
By selling me out in a way.
I have to say that it was pretty shocking when it happened back then, but a lot of things have happened since then that changed my life for the better.
So I can't complain because soon after I found my new wife, which I have been since, which is Christy, who also, as you know, collaborates and edits my books and collaborates also with this publishing company we have put together.
And now, of course, we are promoting this new book, but this new book is about what is happening now in the Middle East and what has been happening for a very long time in the Middle East.
So there is definitely some interesting developments now that we might see in the coming weeks and months as the tension is building up between Israel and Iran.
And even if Israel managed to kill the leader of Hamas in Iran, demonstrating also, by the way, what I wrote in my book, that Qatar was the biggest financer of Hamas.
But at the same time, Iran was their military backers.
And that is a bit weird for people from Even from the Muslim world to think that people from the Wahhabi culture could actually work along with the Shiite.
This is now a latest development since, I guess, the equilibrium of things has changed very much in the last few years, especially due to the weakness of the United States in the hands of Joe Biden.
The fact that, of course, Brexit facilitated the exit of Great Britain, which has an enormous Muslim community and has always been involved in the policies of the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia.
But now they have somehow kind of they have their own problems to deal with.
They're not as strong as they used to be.
So this vacancy in power in the Middle East has been filled up, of course, by China and by Russia, who are working side by side with these proxy wars in order to weaken the United States of America.
Problem is that now we are talking about nuclear submarines.
We are talking about the possibility of a full on war exploding in the Middle East between the two countries that, of course, are very much also connected with the United States, as I explained in volume 10 of my confessions, are very much also connected with the United States, as I explained in volume Yeah.
And so it's important also to understand why Iran is the way it is.
Iran, the Republic of Iran, is quite a new reality for a lot of people that don't know about the Middle East in detail because it was born at the end of the 70s.
It was in the making since the 60s, but ultimately it was because of the CIA and their work with the Shah, who was in charge of the whole of what is now the Republic of Iran, that led to this revolution of two elements here that I consider revolutionary and evil.
The element typical of the 60s and 70s within the universities was, of course, here also in the West, all this left-wing ideology, this Marxism, this growing part of the academic world that was siding more and more with the leftist ideology.
And this somehow mixed together with Islam in a sort of Islamocommunism that gave birth to what we have now, which is the Republic of Iran.
But the Republic of Iran also had a very long Masonic tradition, which I talk about in Volume 10.
The people who eventually will take care of the Shah in exile were Freemasons, who also with the help of the Vatican and even of the Sicilian Mafia and the American Cosa Nostra helped the Shah bringing out all the gold out of Iran, something that was never made public by Ayatollah Khomeini.
Because of course he wanted to be perceived as the strong figure that was leading this new Iran.
into great things and that the Shah had only left with his family but nothing of value in his hands.
That is contrary to what happened.
Instead, the reality of things that unfolded in January of 1979, when this revolution took place and eventually will change forever the Middle East.
Iran today is not the Iran that we used to have, the Iran that of course was quite westernized by the 1970s.
It was a country in the Middle East like many others in the 70s that was pretty modern, the way the women were dressing.
They were aiming to be almost like the West, a modern country, instead with the the arrival of the clerics, with the arrival of the Islamic Republic of Iran, things changed completely, and they will never be the same again.
The gold, and this is a revelation which is pretty shocking for a lot of people that was brought out of there with the help of the Sicilian mafia, of Cosa Nostra, here in America, also in Sicily, because they actually went there with mobsters to because they actually went there with mobsters to pick up this gold out of the various banks and stuff to put it on this plane, and it was directed then to Rome, to the Vatican.
So the Vatican ended up keeping all this gold, the Vatican,
But the problem is that at that point, like I said, the new people in charge of Iran didn't want this to be known because it would be portrayed as a weakness on their side to have let all the rich gold resources of Iran out of the country.
So what did they do?
They commissioned the Attempted, fortunately.
They didn't manage to do it, but they nearly do it.
Assassination of John Paul II.
And all this seems to not be connected.
The arrival of Comeini with the attempted assassination of John Paul II is not something that rings the bell for many people, because still to this day, they always
Push the fake narrative that this Mehmet Ali Akca, this Turkish assassin, was in reality working for the Russians through the Bulgarians, and it was in no way connected to Iran.
But in reality, we know it even today, there is a very strong connection also between Iran and Russia, even before they became the Russian Federation, when they were So, we have in Iran a new dynasty that had taken power since Reza Shah Pahlavi.
Now, Reza Shah Pahlavi was a sympathizer of Germany, a sympathizer of Nazi Germany, a sympathizer of Benito Mussolini, and that is really here, I mean, there is one of It's one of Hitler's Rolls Royce that is kept in a museum in Tehran to this day.
It's like they really had this strong connection with Nazism because 100 years ago, in 1925, so almost 100 years ago, 99 years ago, I mean, we are almost 100 years ago, they published the first edition we are almost 100 years ago, they published the first edition of the Protocols of the Sages of
And that was, it's a book that still to this day has created a lot of problems for Jewish people. - Okay.
It is a book that a lot of conspiracy theorists claim it's actually genuine.
In reality there is Like I explained in the last chapter of my latest book, Volume 10, a degree of genuinity if we simply substitute the protocols of the Sages of Zion with the protocols of the Sabbatean Sages of Zion, meaning that that Sabbatean heresy within Judaism has created this book in the first place.
And then, because, you see, what I also explained is that the worst enemy of the Jews most of the times are the Jews themselves.
That's a big problem.
That's why Hitler was partly Jew.
A lot of Hitler's top people were partly Jew as well, right?
But that is to be interpreted in the following way.
I mean, you know, it's very easy, unfortunately, and I notice this daily in the alternative media, the so-called alternative media, to blame everything on a race of people.
I never blame anything on a race.
I blame something on an ideology that has brainwashed that race, that has basically pushed part of that race towards those decisions.
Now, when we blame the Vatican, we don't necessarily blame all the Catholics in the world.
We blame Those people within the Catholic world, specifically those ones who have embraced the Second Vatican Council, those who have embraced the Jesuit way of thinking that ultimately has led to the election of Pope Francis, which is currently the Pope.
But we don't condemn the whole church.
So the same thing can be applied to the Jewish world.
And in fact, the people who collaborate with the Jesuits, collaborate with the Vatican and with the Vatican Bank are, for example, the Rothschilds.
But the Rothschilds are not to be considered traditional Jews in any way, shape or form.
And in fact, we see that there's a lot of this information regarding the Jews because they have been so good with their own propaganda And since, especially since the release of this book, which I mentioned, The Protocols of the Sages of Zion, is a book that was published initially in Russia and was deemed as the production of the Tsarist secret is a book that was published initially in Russia and was deemed as the
There's a mix, of course, now we know today secret services intelligence are two different things, but back in the days, it was a bit more of a unitarian kind of, you know, people who got the intelligence in the court were also protecting the court.
So this, just to make it, of course, you're from, you have collaborated in the past with the intelligence community, so you know the difference.
But when this book surfaced in Russia for the first time, it was, of course, used because there was a growing antisemitism.
And like I said, it was, though, when we go and analyze like I do in great detail in my book, where it originates from, it actually originates from Jewish people were themselves Sabbateans, were themselves part of the Sabbatean heresy.
And that, like I said, the worst enemy of the Jews are the Jews themselves.
That's the problem here.
And so within the Jewish world, we find their own enemies, but we can't.
And I really want to stress this thing out.
I know that a lot of times, even when I came in the past on your show, then there were people say, oh, he's anti-Palestine, anti-this, anti-that.
I'm not.
I'm nothing.
I'm simply stating the truth.
I think in a way that people can understand that often they are victims themselves of a divide et impera policy, meaning divide and conquer, dividing the poor people against themselves.
A little bit like the last few weeks we have seen what has happened in Great Britain.
Because of Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate retweeting or re-axing, however you want to call it, some information that wasn't correct about a guy who was supposedly in their eyes a Muslim who had killed these little girls, a whole series of riots then started.
Now they later discovered that the guy is the son of immigrants from Rwanda.
Right.
Definitely he is a criminal, probably an insane individual.
But in any case, we haven't proven yet his connection, if there is any, with Islam.
And it's even paradoxical that a guy like Andrew Tate, who is followed by millions of people around the world,
And who is himself saying he is a Muslim, which is kind of has basically fueled with gasoline this incendiary situation, which ended up with the riots in several cities in the United Kingdom.
And I must say, I, you know, I lived many years in the United Kingdom, half British.
My mother is from London.
So I have and you read, of course, the history of my family.
So, you know, I'm quite connected with the descendant of the Queen, right?
Yeah, well, yes.
Basically, my grandfather was the cousin of the Queen Mother.
So as I know Great Britain, England from when I was a child and I have been living there many years, I noticed myself
that if they didn't sort out things quickly, and this was already when I was leaving England 20 years ago, there was growing problems regarding the Muslim community, the integration, and so it's like
In the end, they have created this conflict of the poor, because it is these desperados that are now, of course, fighting for their identity.
I understand that, because when I went, the last time I went to England, I presented my books in England in the last couple, two or three years I was in Europe, and I used to go there quite often.
And I ended up presenting my books and ended up also speaking in a lodge at one point, in a Masonic lodge, where I told them, listen, guys, you are about to witness complete chaos here.
I don't know.
I mean, you are playing with fire in the United Kingdom.
And my wife herself, we went out there.
We went out there, I remember, just after finishing something, we went out of a pub and we really felt, even if we were in the center of London, quite a dangerous kind of situation.
The streets of London are ever so dangerous.
Now, they were already dangerous when I was living there, and I lived there between 1994-95 until 2003, so eight years.
But now they are extreme, and the dangers are growing, especially after the pandemic, the people are more desperate.
So on one side, you're hitting a very good note as far as like the class, the poor against the seemingly rich or, you know, people that have, like when I was in Lebanon, there was a clear difference between, excuse me, the Muslim community and the Christian community, Christian community.
was very, very luxurious.
And the Muslim community was like a ghetto.
And if you walked along the streets that were bordering the Muslim community, if someone saw you, they would confront you and try and start something.
So you had to be very, very aware of that.
You couldn't just wander around in their neighborhoods.
It was not safe.
No, but having said that, nowadays in Great Britain, the Muslim community is often as desperate as their white counterparts, the ones who created the riots, The thing is that, of course, the Muslim community has as a powerful ally this socialist, communist element that unfortunately pervades our society as well as Great Britain.
And we see it every day here with what is coming out of the mouth of Kamala Harris.
Or Joe Biden, or now the new Prime Minister in the United Kingdom.
There is this weird alliance that has been created in the West between Islam and the left, that in reality, as I try to explain also in my book, it's really incompatible.
The values that these two factions have are incompatible.
So to see the The leftist person march with the Palestinian flag or shout death to Israel or basically even shout words of encouragement for Hamas or things like that.
It's really quite extraordinary because, like we all know, if An LGBTQ person, for example, will be sent for five minutes in the streets of Gaza.
He will die like a cat on the highway.
Oh, yeah.
There is no way that in the Middle East they will accept the compromises of the Western society on matters of sexuality, gender fluidity and all that nonsense.
That's part of the, like, you know, they're trying to integrate the Luciferian veil and all that craziness into... In Great Britain, only this year, they have closed down their only gender firming clinic, which was created by the Tavistock Institute for a reason.
They were afraid that somebody would bomb them.
They were not afraid.
OK, there has been a lot of criticism, a lot of whistleblowers talking about the fact that these people were actually giving the puberty stop drugs to children who didn't need it without really verifying the psychology of these children.
We know that it is a monstrosity what they're doing with this puberty, how you call it, probably block drug, whatever they are.
It's a monstrosity.
But in England, the Tavistock Institute, which, as you know, is not only an institute for gender affirmation, but much more than that, they participated also in a long collaboration with the CIA, MKUltra and all the rest.
Tavistock is definitely at the center of a lot of things, but the fact that they had to close down, in March of this year, they had to close down this clinic and everybody says, well, they're closing it down because there was a lot of malpractice, this and that, and now they're going to spread it differently in various regions.
The reality is that they were afraid that some Muslims in London would bomb the home place because they had been threatened.
That is the truth.
Nobody wants to say about it.
They are welcoming, of course, Muslims into their cities and everything, but then in the end, they are the ones who pay the consequences because the Muslims will not go along with a gender affirmation clinic or social service of any, you know, because like I said, the values, they don't really, they collide too much, the values of Islam with the values of the left.
However, here in the West, for some reason, We have the people in the universities here in America shouting from the river to the sea and all that nonsense.
And we have all this anti-Semitism.
I bet that once we finish this show, there will still be a lot of people that will say, oh, Zagami is a Zionist, Zagami is a Jewish, this and that.
Now, guys, read my books.
It is not so simple.
You are being very ignorant, because I explain how Zionism was formed, how it was immediately hijacked by what became Labour Zionism.
I explain how There is a very big difference between traditional forms of Judaism and what is basically progressive Judaism, Reform Judaism, which is all connected to the Sabbatean Frankish heresy, that it's completely anti-God.
We can't say anti-Christian because they're not Christian, but anti-God, they are, and anti-Jewish tradition in the real sense of the term.
We can term them like, because I've had a Jewish gentleman, we talked history and so forth.
He said that they're all the way back into the Roman Empire when the fall of the Jewish lands and Jerusalem.
That there is a satanic side of that, and you're very good at this as far as mapping all this out.
It goes all the way back to Babylon and basically has integrated into the Jewish community.
Well, I talk about that also in this book.
I talk about the Erebrav.
Erev Rav is a faction that infiltrated Judaism from the moment in which Moses came out of Egypt.
There were some magicians, some people from the Pharaonic, from the court of the Pharaoh, who decided to follow Moses.
They were not Jewish, but they mixed up with the Jewish tribes and they were apparently the one who inspired the infamous golden calf that sent him back to the mountain after slamming the Ten Commandments and saying, you're a bunch of idiots.
What are you doing here?
I come back and you are worshipping.
So this Arab Arab apparently, and this is not me saying it, but the rabbinic tradition, reincarnates in a certain number of people for every generation.
And that means that this evil is pretty constant in the history of Judaism.
That's why we go back to what I've already reiterated several times that the worst enemies of the Jewish people are the Jewish people.
So you see, it's not so simple.
It's not all black and white.
There has been so many conspiracy theories with no fundament that have been spread through the Internet.
That really, at times, I think, well, if people want to believe this nonsense, they're free to believe it.
But I base my life and my research and my own experience on facts, not on fiction.
And that's why I went to the Middle East.
I experienced the Middle East.
I experienced Islam.
So I know what is happening today in the Middle East.
When they say that Hamas, now the new leader of Hamas, wants to find a compromise of sorts with Israel, with the IDF, and with, of course, America, which is backing Israel.
They might want to find a compromise in Gaza because it is true that actually Israel and the IDF has literally eliminated most of Hamas, of the heads of this Hamas organization.
They have eliminated the head who was in Iran, but they also eliminated in the last few days like another 36 members.
And every day they are staying there in Gaza.
Of course, this is costing the life of many thousands of civilians.
And that is a tragedy.
That is a tragedy.
But there is one big problem here.
When you are protecting terrorists, what do you expect?
If I'm helping terrorists, keeping hostages under my own home, under my own hospital, I have to suffer the consequences.
And this is very difficult to digest for a lot of people.
Of course, they see the daily results of this with thousands of Palestinians dying.
Those Palestinians have been educated in a way that when you go and interview them, and there is, I mean, one courageous blogger I saw that had the courage to go inside Gaza to interview them directly and say, do you support Hamas?
All of them said yes.
So it's a little bit difficult to claim that these thousands and thousands of Palestinians are all innocent when they are siding with terrorists who have slaughtered innocent people on October 7th.
So it's very, of course, very critical though, very important here.
that we don't fall into the division factor.
That's why we have to avoid siding with the rioters in Great Britain who fight against each other, either one or the other side, because the elite is actually pushing in a way this chaos, so they can
Take away the attention from their own things while they are ruining our economy, while they are stealing our future, while they are basically doing things that will make the life of our children and grandchildren a misery for decades to come.
That is the problem here.
And we can't also be overly simplistic.
Yes, we have Volodymyr Zelensky also, who is a Jew.
But what kind of Jew is Volodymyr Zelensky?
Oh, great.
I was going to ask you just now about that.
So you're tying it up very perfectly.
So we're seeing the Zionist kind of like in Israel and in Ukraine.
What's the connection going on?
It's not Zionist.
I mean, Jacob Frank.
Was the guy who, a hundred years after Sabbatai Zevi, who declared himself Messiah and was the first one to push for the return of the Jewish people to Israel.
Jago Frank was born in Ukraine.
So we are talking about the Jews of Ukraine and Poland, which are the ones that are always somehow involved with what is happening today.
And in New York.
But these Jews are not the traditional Jews.
They are Jews that, of course, have chosen an heretic formula.
Now, just to summarize it for those who don't know about the Sabbatean Frankism, the Sabbatean Frankists are basically born out of Sabbatai Zevi and later Jacob Frank who claimed to be his reincarnation, because in certain branches of Judaism they believe in reincarnation.
And if it wasn't for Shabbatai Zevi or Jack O'Frank, we probably wouldn't have all those sexual magic Deviant Secret Societies, Alistair Crowley and all that.
The Theosophical Society of Madame Blavatsky probably would not have even been born because it was Blavatsky's mentor who was himself also Sabbatean Frankism.
So we are having here, and Madame Blavatsky was herself born in Ukraine, by the way, In the city of Dnipro.
And I explained very much, also in Volume 9 of my confession, how the identity of Ukraine, which is basically a border kind of state between the rest of Europe and Russia, it was never really a country.
It has been created in the last 170 years, artificially crafted by the Illuminati from Germany and from Poland, who wanted to fight Russia by creating an alternative identity for these Ukrainians who have always been part of the great Russian Empire.
The Sabbatean Frankies, the secret societies that built up the Ukrainian identity, which I list one by one in Volume 9 of my confessions.
There is a specific secret societies that from the 1830s, 1820s, all the way to the 1850s.
1850s was the moment in which the Illuminati in Europe were trying to attack every single monarchy so they could then undermine also religion.
They, you see, the Illuminati of Adam Beisha might have had a short lifespan as the order of the Illuminati, because already 10 years after they were founded, they were basically dismantled.
But they were not really dismantled.
They were taking on various shapes and forms, different secret societies.
Bechamp said, simply change name.
You don't have to call yourself the Illuminati, so everybody then, ah, those are the Illuminati.
No, just create different.
And one of the organizations they created was the League of the Just, which eventually published the Manifesto of Karl Marx.
So the guy who founded this League of the Just was a disciple of Adam Bechamp.
The communism that was created by the Illuminati wasn't really their invention because they were inspired by the communists that had been experimented already by the Jesuits, and the Jesuits were a major inspiration for Adam Bishop and his followers when they established the Illuminati.
Like I said, the Illuminati might have not lasted long with that name.
They tried to regather together with that name a hundred years later in 1888 in Dresden in Germany.
And the guys who brought that revival together were Theodore Royce and Leopold Engel.
And Theodore Royce became later on the co-founder of the Ordo Tempii Orientis, which then was joined by Alistair Crowley.
So all these organizations are in some way, they are connected.
And often also they are connected to the intelligence services because the secrecy that you will find in a secret society, that's why it's called secret society, or a society with secrets like Freemasonry, who everybody knows, but nobody knows what's happening inside of Freemasonry.
It makes it an ideal setup for intelligence gathering, for activities that need to be kept very discreet, because there is an obligation of discretion, of secrecy, when you go inside the Lodge of Remembrance, to not communicate what you have seen inside.
Even if there is nothing illegal going on, You cannot say that this guy or this other guy was with you without an authorization from your superior.
So, first of all, the Masonry in itself aided the birth of Ukraine.
And when Ukraine eventually, in the 1990s, got back to being independent from after the period in the Soviet Union, It was actually the regular Granodgio of Italy at the time.
Actually, I think even the Grand Orient of Italy with Giuliano Di Bernardo was the Grand Master.
I think it was the regular Granodgio of Italy who went and I still think I have actually the video of they went to Ukraine and they restarted Freemasonry.
So to then reinsert that country in a specific network that will be, of course, controlled by England.
England, the MI6 in particular, had great interest in Ukraine to encourage more and more an independent view of culture from the Russian counter.
I mean, they want A Ukraine that is not Russian.
So what did they do?
Ten years ago, when there was the coup d'etat that outed the president that was filo-Russian, that was connected to Russia, from that moment onwards, they purged of the Russian element every single city, every single institution, And ultimately, when they had people who were of Russian ethnicity, they went after them.
And they went after them.
And if they didn't renounce to their ethnicity, their language, their culture, they will be persecuted.
That is what has created the problem with the Donbass region and with Crimea.
We know that Crimea immediately declared itself independent.
And of course, under Russia.
And then with the beginning, just before the beginning of this conflict, the enlargement of this conflict, because the conflict already started 10 years ago.
Both England, Great Britain and the United States were trying to push Ukraine More and more.
And now we are assisting in the last few days to something really scary.
Michael, I think you have noticed the news, the fact that thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have entered into Russian territory.
Now, before you go any further, I've been thinking what you said about the Illuminati being basically communists.
And that totally makes sense.
I always thought they were like, you know, hardcore, you know, making money and all that kind of stuff.
But no, they're... Money is the way they control the money.
It's the money of the people.
That's what I saw with the CIA and all the other services.
They don't care about the money.
The money is that they just dump it everywhere that anyone can help them.
Uh, and they're like human trafficking, uh, you know, uh, drug trafficking, weapons trafficking, uh, behind the scenes.
And they use that money basically to buy everybody and create these communist systems.
Think about it.
Money in itself is the biggest form of mind control that's ever existed.
Because what do you think when you wake up in the morning?
Maybe I have to make a little bit of money, or I have to buy this... This is mind control, man!
All of us, from the... In fact, the Pakistani children, who are very into... To bring them into the world and make them think more about money, they do this next to their ear with coins, from when they are little children, like this.
You see, here we are a bit complicated because we will have to go back to Pablo's experiments with the dogs, which were the first experiments in mango.
But when you do this and then they give them something good to associate with it, so then they associate great things only with money, then of course they are obsessed with money and you find them in every 7-Eleven in the USA wanting to make money.
Brainwashing!
I spent a lot of time in Pakistan.
They do want money, but they live in a communist society and they don't That's true.
On one side they have the Hindus and they have the border gate guards going against each other.
It's kind of fun to watch that.
But on one side you see the Pakistanis are all in gray shawar kameez and the women are veiled and burqas and so forth.
And on the other side you see the Hindus and the Christians.
They're colorful and they're all happy and jumping around.
The Pakistanis are all angry and it's like, well, I actually in this book talk very much about the Pakistanis because.
I've in my latest book discussed also Sufism.
And Sufism is always perceived as this peaceful thing.
Yeah, but not so much, right?
Poetry of Jalal ad-Din Rumi and all these kind of romanticized things in the heads of people who maybe like the idea of Sufism.
But the reality of Sufism, especially in a country like Pakistan, is a very ugly reality.
Often connected with fundamentalism and despicable acts against women.
So Sufism has been sold to us as moderate after 9-11 because they needed something to alternate with the Salafi Jihadism that was starting to attack with Al-Qaeda.
Then we'll get better.
I mean, we have a branch of Islam which comes out of the Muslim Brotherhood, basically.
The Muslim Brotherhood itself was actually in origins a creation of the English.
That's why we go back to what I said at the beginning of our interview.
Great Britain having their own problems today means that the Middle East maybe feels a little bit more free to go with China or Russia.
That's why suddenly we have Saudi Arabia joining BRICS.
You know, and making actually after many, many decades, peace with Iran.
It was unimaginable to see the Wahhabi world with the Shia world.
But our own weakness here in America.
And in Great Britain has made it possible for China to play the diplomatic card, putting them together and unifying more and more all these various factions of Islam that, like I explained, have been divided for over a thousand years.
They've been fighting with each other, the Shiite and the Sunni mainly.
Though then we have many other branches that derive from the Shiite and of course the Sunni, but in particular the Shia world.
Today, Iran is the main Shia country in the world.
And it is the main threat that we have in the Middle East because they are of course backed by both China and Russia.
The drones that are used in Ukraine, going back to Ukraine.
So you see the Middle East, actually, then when it comes to Ukraine, which is in the middle of you, is actually in Eastern Europe.
But I'm very far away now because the Middle East is closer to Italy than it is to Ukraine.
But there is a connection.
The connection is there.
And the drones that are used against Ukraine from the Russians are made in Iran.
And when?
Last week, I think it was last week, the Russians met with the Iranians.
They didn't talk about... they were talking probably about all the weapons that would be needed if this conflict between Israel and Iran starts to... it will be another front, just like Ukraine.
Now I want to tell your viewers one thing though, to think, meditate for one moment about one thing.
Our economy has been destroyed by one war.
The one with Ukraine giving all our money in the last few years, the price of oil because we don't buy oil anymore from Russia and all that, gas.
Everything has skyrocketed and we have basically a possibility of this whole economy collapsing into a recession.
Imagine if there is two wars like that.
Good point.
So imagine if now, in the next two years, You have another Ukraine in the Middle East.
It is really pretty scary to think that's where we are heading, because we can't afford it, first of all.
We can't afford one war, let alone two.
And then I want to say, in regards to Ukraine, we have these thousands of soldiers, probably 6,000 now, that are in the Kursk region.
They have talked about what happened in Zaporizhia just a few days ago with a fire that was started either by the Ukrainians or by the Russians.
Each side blames the other.
And that is the biggest nuclear plant in Europe.
But then the other big nuclear plant is in course.
So if the Ukrainians advance, then there is another nuclear plant we have to deal with.
And either one or the other.
I mean, I remember still to this day a person I met who was born when there was the Chernobyl accident in Italy, and they were still suffering.
They had operated themselves, cutting themselves from bottom to top.
Older organs had been affected from the moment of birth.
And they were born in Italy, not in Chernobyl, not in other parts.
So it affected.
I remember I was a kid and we immediately got told that we couldn't eat any salads, anything.
Everything had to be washed and possibly we should have avoided it.
But some people were pregnant at that time.
And the children who were born, were born with a lot of problems.
So imagine if another thing like this happens in Europe.
It will be really devastating for decades to come.
Because when you're talking about the radioactivity, it becomes something completely out of control.
Because we can, yes, we can maybe make some predictions about what will happen.
But once it's like, Letting the genie out of the bottle and the situation gets out of control.
So I hope that doesn't happen.
Sincerely.
The situation in Europe is very unstable, as we know, because we just talked before about the riots in Great Britain, but similar riots might explode in France or anywhere else.
There is strong, there is strong, there is big problems in France also with the Muslim community being so big.
Why does Great Britain and France have this problem?
Well, let's explain for the people who are viewing us, you know, say, ah, why Great Britain has all these Muslims?
Why London has a Pakistani man?
What is happening here?
Well, after the Second World War, the British factories needed men.
And a lot of men have been killed during the war.
And they needed absolutely to restart the economy.
So what they did in the 1950s was mass immigration from the colonies of former colonies.
Of the great British Empire, the once great British Empire that at that point there was was cracking down.
It was, of course, a thing of the past, but they let into Great Britain for the relaunch of the British economy.
Millions of Muslims.
Now, of course, the ruling class knows exactly what they did.
They sold their soul to the devil, basically.
They did that knowing that they will gain money, prosperity for decades.
And in fact, Great Britain became one of the richest places in Europe.
I mean, it was one of the driving economies of the world.
Things then eventually come to, they all came to a change with the great crisis that started with the pandemic, the realization that already before that with 9-11 and what happened later on also in Great Britain with the attacks they had in the London underground, they realized that they did a mistake, but they can't do anything about it.
Because what are you going to do?
Are you going to send them back?
No, now it's like three or four generations in.
You can't really change things in that way.
You can't simply say, we're going to send them away.
So I understand the suffering of those British lads, you know, St.
George, the cross, the fig.
Because when I went back to England after many years in I had not been in England for 10 years.
And I went back in 2000, I think, 17 or 18.
And I told you after I did a series of conferences and things.
I was shocked.
All the fish and chips shops had closed.
The pubs had closed.
In their place, there was a halal butcher.
There was an Islamic shop.
We're talking here about the heart of London being radically transformed.
And my wife was shocked when we went up to, we were staying at my aunt's place.
And we were going upstairs and downstairs, there was like, on the door, Islamic symbols on the door.
And my wife said, who lives here?
Terrorists?
What is this?
Don't say anything because here we are in London.
It's like being in Pakistan nowadays, you know, it's almost like that.
So you have to really also be very careful what you say, because these people, they come up with a knife in a second, they butcher you.
So, so I was shocked.
I was shocked to see that in 10 years since my last visit in London.
And I stopped, I moved from London to Norway in 2003 after eight years.
So I had quite a vast experience and I lived next to the Islamic community of Edge Road.
So I knew which areas usually they covered.
And now instead, it was like, like I said, the pub for a Londoner.
It's a place of socializing.
It's like the Italian bar where you go and get the coffee.
It's a place that is tradition.
And it's tradition to go there and have a pint.
Yep.
Muslims, officially at least, don't drink.
Right.
And they forbid alcohol.
So it makes a big difference in the culture certainty of a country.
So I understand that they feel like they don't have jobs because their jobs are taken.
Their culture is being basically destroyed.
The king, who was once the defender, and before, of course, the queen, defender of the Christian faith, of Anglican faith, which is a Christian faith, is now instead the defender of faiths.
In the coronation of King Charles, we saw representatives of all faiths, and we saw a different kind of setup.
And this, though, for the average Brit to see all this, starts to be problematic.
Then there's also another thing that people might not understand here, and actually I had to explain to my wife.
United Kingdom.
It's a kingdom.
It's divided in social classes.
You have the aristocracy, you have the commoners.
They all talk in a different way.
You know, my wife couldn't understand when they were like, "Oh, me!
Oh, me!
Oh, me!
Oh, you're going!" You can't understand them if you're not, you know, they're talking a different way.
Or then you have the very proper people.
But it is that accent defines the difference of social status, the school they went to, the experiences they had.
It's very different from America because America, of course, in 1776 said bye bye to all that division and created a country with equal opportunities for everybody.
Now it's unfortunately the deep state, the wrong side of America wants to destroy all that.
With all this bullshit, diversity, equity, inclusion, wokeness, and all this stuff, they suddenly want to reinstate racism, because what they're doing is basically racist.
And it's sad.
It's sad because America is an experiment that has produced so much good for the world, and it should stay That way, it should stay as a country of equal opportunities.
And instead, they are pushing on division.
And I sincerely can't imagine four years of Kamala Harris.
No, definitely not.
So, you've had really good articles, and we were talking before the show, About how to avoid another J6.
You have article about that.
So I was just at a J6 trial of this one woman, Cindy Young.
And I saw that out of all the trials that we had so far, The people of Washington DC have convicted everybody.
No one has gotten off.
And these are basically innocent people.
We see people being let out of jail for like rape and murder and all kinds of crazy stuff.
And they're like convicting these people just for going in.
This one woman, she's 71 years old and walked in with American flag and then walked back out.
And now she's going to be in prison, potentially for 20 years.
And it's a travesty, but the people of Washington, D.C., who are the jurors, have convicted all of these people.
There's been no one they've let off.
And you can see the difference between, and I saw those people, they looked like normal, good people.
I was like, oh, we're gonna get a good jury.
We're gonna get a good vote here.
And there was a Catholic priest there and everything.
I was like, surely he's not gonna put this woman away for life, for the rest of her life.
And they all voted to, that she was guilty on all four counts and they're all ridiculous.
How can we avoid another J6?
Well, first of all, we need to understand the weaponization of the federal institutions like the FBI and other organizations, federal organizations that are being weaponized against the American people in a way that we have not seen since the Stasi police in Eastern federal organizations that are being weaponized against the American people in a way that
I mean, what happened with Joe Biden, who was supposed to be the unifying president and instead was the most divisive president in the history of the United States, - Yes.
It's quite shocking and that's why I rejoice.
Yesterday I had a moment of happiness when I saw that Trump is going to sue the DOJ for entering in that way Mar-a-Lago with all those FBI agents.
The FBI today needs to be reformed.
But it's not the only organization that needs to be reformed, because the CIA has exactly the same values today for their recruitment.
So when you have the recruitment which is based on the race, there has been a lot of discussion also after the Trump assassination attempt of those Secret Service operatives, those women who didn't even know how to hold a gun.
We have basically seen the head of the Secret Service who didn't want to resign until she was forced to resign, but she's, of course, best friends with Jill Biden.
I mean, here we're talking about the Bidens as a criminal family who has done really some serious crimes against America by politicizing this institution.
That's why they sent the FBI after all the January 6 people, even the one who never entered Never entered the Capitol Hill, had to go and testimony or were called or found themselves with a sudden visit by the FBI.
You were in Washington that day.
Well, yes, I was in Washington.
I was walking my dog next to the Capitol Hill, whatever.
I mean, it is incredible what they did.
I mean, it's shocking.
It's un-American.
And of course, it can only get worse if Kamala becomes president.
And that is my great fear here, that because they control the mainstream media, they control the social networks, they control all this, the narrative, and they are pushing Kamala like the next best thing.
We all know that up until a month ago, she was not even liked by her own party members, most of them disliked her.
So it is like we have now, maybe we are facing another possibility of a fraudulent election in 2024.
And that is a very scary thought because inevitably that will lead to a civil war.
And I think that up until now, Most of middle America has tolerated what is happening in the hope that we can change things democratically by going and electing a new president that hopefully is a former president, former President Trump, of course.
But, I mean, there is the possibility of another fraudulent election.
That is very scary, absolutely very scary.
You see, the The military industrial complex and all those federal agencies, including the Secret Service, they wanted Trump dead on the 13th of July.
That's it.
It's very easy here.
And I personally don't understand why Trump has not pushed more on that side of things.
Because now, They are eroding him with a lot of negative information.
They're trying to find all kinds of things.
JD Vance as a drag queen, dresses up as a woman, or this other thing, he flied with Epstein's flight.
They will find all kinds of things, okay?
Because they want to erode, they want to limit the credibility of Trump.
And rise the popularity, of course, of Kamala.
But I don't think there is a future for America with Kamala Harris.
It's that bad.
If Kamala comes in, we, as America, we become, you see, nations like China, Russia, Iran, they will rejoice with the arrival of an idiot like that.
You see, everything that went on in the last few years, especially with Ukraine, went on because Joe Biden is a weak candidate.
And Joe Biden also has his own interest in Ukraine.
And he has made no secret of this interest in Ukraine.
We are left paying the consequences.
And the future with Kamala Harris will not be any better.
Also, there is the possibility of a real, complete fracture with Israel.
And that's why I think that the next few months will be Could become very incendiary, very tense, because this is a moment of weakness for the United States.
We have a president who is half dead and who shouldn't be in the White House in the first place, who has gone in front of an interviewer from CBS the other day and admitted that he was scared of his Democrat friends and Nancy Pelosi.
Yeah, he was almost scared.
Well, I would be scared too of Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, Nancy Pelosi is pretty scary.
But to actually be intimidated by a woman who is older than you and by people who are supposed to be your allies and friends, and then give your presidency bid to the worst candidate possible, Kamala Harris, which was just put there because of the color of her skin.
We had the testimony, if you remember, of recordings that were made, I think, either by Project Veritas or by the guy who used to work for it, where there are workers within the White House who admitted, we only kick Kamala because she's black, we can't kick her because of the color of her skin.
So this is a big problem, I think.
And the Jesuits, the Vatican, they know very well what they're doing.
They have let into this country almost 20 million people since the start of the Biden administration that will be used against the patriots of this country.
In various ways.
Some of them have been even recruited by the police of some idiotic cities that lets the illegal immigrants inside, you know, and lets them even become a participant of their policing.
I mean, that's crazy stuff.
But I think that we are in front of an unprecedented election here in the United States.
And I start to fear that they will once again play the fraudulent card.
They are already silencing any form of dissent on social media.
And that's why it's great to be here on Rumble.
It's great to be on X or in alternative platforms where it's permitted still to talk.
So who do you think is behind this?
and exchange our ideas.
But in regards to the fact that we are closer and closer to the possible end of America, that is, I think, the most scary thought. - Yeah.
So who do you think's behind this?
'Cause obviously Biden wasn't elected and neither will Kamala Harris by the American people.
So who is backing them?
Who's controlling?
Who's selecting them?
Is it the War Party or what group of billionaires or whatever is doing this?
There's mainly two people that have been managing the White House since the arrival of Joe Biden and that is Barack Hussein Obama and Alex Soros, the son of George Soros, because George Soros is too old.
So he has left all the open society and all the rest to his son.
These are the two, let's say, managers behind the scenes also of Kamala's presidential bid.
And that's the problem here.
They have in their hands the mainstream media.
I mean, they have a lot of things that could eventually put us in the embarrassing situation of having to say, wow, they have stolen once again the elections.
What are we going to do now?
Because then at that point, it's like really, and of course, the January 6th, it's very indicative.
Because I had also a friend who had a radio station himself.
He actually, like I told you earlier, before we went on the air, he's an Afro-American.
He thought maybe he could play the race card.
I still did more than a year and a half in jail.
And basically, a lot of other people I know that I've had problems, and it's really sad to see that.
But it could happen again, you see.
And it could happen again because once they steal another election, people will want to riot.
People will want to create some kind of revolution.
And the moment they activate themselves, the FBI will be on them, and it will be another situation like January 6th.
So the only solution, in theory, is placing against Or this Donald J. Trump in the White House so he can reform this institution.
They need to be, again, completely free of bias.
Any institution of the federal government can't be in the hands of a political party.
It's just not conceivable.
I had to flee Europe because in Italy the system, the way it's been built after the Second World War, by the American Democrats who were in power in 1946, who tricked the Italian poll on the choosing between monarchy and republic.
Eventually, they forged the results and they got the Republic.
And then what they did, they crafted the Republic in a way because they were defeated.
Just like Germany.
These are defeated countries that have been rigged after the Second World War.
So they can't constitute a threat any longer.
So their people can vote whatever they want.
The results will always be the same.
That's why I renounced in June to my Italian citizenship.
I actually formally renounced to it.
I'm American since the month of March.
And I then went to the Italian consulate in L.A.
and I said, I renounce formally to my Italian citizenship.
And people have asked me, why did you renounce?
Oh, you renounce to Italian citizenship?
Are you not proud of being Italian?
Listen, guys, I had to free that country.
It has no freedom of expression.
The same thing is happening in Great Britain today.
You can be arrested for your fault in Great Britain.
You can be arrested for a post on Facebook.
The same thing happened to me in Italy.
Do you think that's coming to America?
Do you think we'll have riots?
They absolutely want that to happen here in America, but because it's unconstitutional, the only way they can do it is to subvert the whole system, and that will not be accepted by part of America, and that's why we are going towards Yeah.
the possible scenario of certain states walking out of the union if Kamala Harris is elected.
That is definitely a realistic outcome for places like Texas, New Hampshire, and other places that have already ventilated that possibility and who are already far...
What I see is most of the landscape of America is pretty much traditional values and conservative and so forth.
And then in the big cities, many of the big cities, they're the liberal mindset, the people that like D.C.
that want all of us in jail.
So, you know, I think that's probably the big cities that will have to be isolated.
No, but there is a problem here.
You see, the way they keep the United States together is through the Federal Reserve.
Yes, very good, very good.
Through debt that eventually states incur because they are kind of like Yes, but you own us, I don't know how many trillions.
Are you gonna pay?
have more federal money.
That means being more and more dependent on the federal system.
And so Texas will say, yes, we are independent tomorrow morning, but then the United States of America say, yes, but you own us, I don't know how many trillions.
Are you going to pay?
So it's going to be really, and then at that point, Texas is going to say, no, I'm not going to pay.
Then at that point, it's going to be war.
Yeah.
And you might have nailed what really is controlling Kamala Joe and that side is the Federal Reserve.
Because Donald Trump has, you know, made motions that he wants to bring in, you know, Bitcoin, which would basically take the Federal Reserve out of the play.
And also, you know, stop taxing tips.
And he's made reference to basically doing away with taxation.
So that is that is really barking at the... We saw the whole Kamala coming out saying she doesn't want to tax tips.
And that's hilarious because she's the vice president.
They are the ones, their administration is the one that created this problem in the first place.
So it's like really.
And then also other things like Kamala going in front of a crowd of people saying to the people at the border, don't come in.
You let 20 million people in and you're saying, don't come in.
I mean, it's obviously, I mean, that is really sad to see that we have this kind of false narrative also in regards to her own crowd.
They're saying, ah, we are filling up all these events.
And Trump, of course, yes, with maybe the AI you create, Some crowd that is not there, and there is evidence of that.
But they say, no, no, Trump is lying.
We are very successful.
And then they took out this other guy, Baltz, who basically is a coward who didn't go and fight the war when he was supposed to fight.
He might have been in the National Guard for I don't know how many decades, but The guy, when it was actually due to fight a real war, he went on to join the Washington Swamp.
So, I mean, it is pretty ridiculous.
I think that the situation here can only get better with Trump.
At the same time, I know that they are planning, in case Trump gets elected, Other ways of getting rid of him or of creating problems for his administration.
Already Joe Biden has almost ventilated that hypothesis during his last interview with CBS.
He said, we can't let at any cost this guy.
He is, you know, we saw what happened with Thomas Crooks and we saw what happened with the attempted assassination of Trump.
And there will be, of course, a lot of things that will be discussed for years to come, just like in the case of JFK.
There's a lot of similarities, unfortunately.
The problem is that today, today, We have still these people in power, in control of this federal institution.
And it's good that, of course, it's great that Trump has survived this attempt.
Really, by the grace of God, he has survived this attempt.
But there will be probably further attempts on his life.
And they will use Iran in premise.
In fact, They have already indicated a couple of Iranian plots to kill Donald J. Trump, because in that way they could actually take, in Italy we have a saying, dovecchioni con la fava.
It's like taking basically, you are sending people to war against Iran, because you can blame Iran at that point, and you get rid of the guy who doesn't want the wars in the first place, who is Donald J. Trump.
So Trump needs to be definitely on the look for other assassination attempts.
And regarding what has happened with Thomas Crooks, that is, of course, something that maybe we can discuss on another occasion, because there is a lot to discuss there with a guy who is, though, the typical representative of his age, brainwashed, brainwashed, completely brainwashed, completely confused.
And like a lot of young people, they get this constant sigh of Trump is evil, Trump is evil, Trump is you.
Well, then there is always some crazy guy who will say, OK, I'm going to get rid of this guy.
They're telling me he's evil.
I'm going to be the hero and get rid of him.
I mean, that is really the problem.
That's why I was kind of surprised and happy the first few days after the Trump assassination, because finally the tone had changed.
On NBC, on CNN, on ABC, everybody kind of suddenly changed their tone and they were not so negative towards Trump.
It lasted only a week.
But it was like refreshing because finally you could see that some news that was not biased, you know, it was not like tuning in and you hear it was changed.
I mean, we are Americans.
Of course, we can disagree politically, but it doesn't need to be so harsh.
It doesn't need to be so divisive.
The division is built by these people who are pushing us into a confrontation, and that's why we go back to the January 6th thing and the possibility that other traps like that.
I wrote about January 6th being a trap in Volume 7 of my confession, and actually the The QAnon shaman complimented me.
He said I was one of his favorite authors.
He went on the Alex Jones Show and said I was one of his favorite authors.
And I think that he gets it because, I mean, he went through the whole thing.
He ended up in jail.
He has gathered some experience that I hope is positive and beneficial for him out of it.
But, I mean, he had done nothing wrong.
The guy was simply dressed up with this horns thing, went inside.
They were almost brought in by the police, escorted in, everything was... And suddenly, the day after, there were all these massive claiming of the new 9-11.
The new 9-11!
That is the thing, you see, when they say the new 9-11.
9-11 itself was a massive psyop.
Yeah.
To force Americans, like I explained in Volume 10, 9-11, is that mega ritual to then address all that hate and finally send hundreds and hundreds of thousands of soldiers into these wars that nobody wanted to fight, and sadly A lot of them came back injured, as you know.
Others came back directly in a coffin.
And the only people who gained out of it were the Bushes, the Dick Cheneys of the situation, the people in the neocons, and these people who made money out of the military-industrial complex.
That's how it always is.
The Militant Desert Conference makes always money.
The problem now is we are giving our money and our weapons to Ukraine.
We told them not to go into Russia.
We actually said we're giving you these F-16s.
Don't use them to attack Russia.
And then you give them and the week after they go and attack Russia.
I mean, come on!
It's really like pissing off Russia that at that point already explain you what they will do.
Because Vladimir Putin said, you attack us in our territory, then at that point we have the opportunity to react with our nuclear arsenal.
So it's inevitable that if they keep on marching towards Moscow, I don't know if the Russians have some weakness because maybe they have too many soldiers displayed in Donbass and in the southern region, So they can't have now, They might have some areas, the Kursk, that are unfortunately not very defended.
They're not well defended at the moment.
Right.
They continue, and they're already a thousand kilometers, I don't know how many miles, inside Russia.
Well, at that point, you know, if suddenly we have a nuclear explosion, the blame is on us.
They're trying to do it.
So this is like the Ukraine's Battle of the Bulge, like for the Germans.
They're going to be defeated and they're being defeated.
They're being stopped out.
And they're still advancing on the other fronts.
Well, you're right.
They're trying to get to a point where they can shell another nuclear facility and create this nuclear conflict.
That's what they want.
Yeah, because I don't think, I mean, yeah, of course, Russia said it's possible that Ukraine has created the problem in Zaporizhia, which is, of course, here.
I don't think the Ukrainians are so crazy to want to create a massive problem in Zaporizhia, because that will be the whole of Ukraine.
Well, instead, if they blow up Kursk, the Kursk nuclear plant, which is much more north, and it will, of course, create a massive problem for Moscow.
The radioactivity will go up that way.
It's definitely a problem.
But like I said, they were the ones who said, no, we're not going to use these weapons against Russia.
And then the day after they use it against us.
This is incredible.
Even Italy was given a big amount of weapons to Ukraine.
And in Italy, imagine this.
The Italians are not even authorized to see what they have sent to Ukraine.
It's top secret.
They are not authorized.
I mean, if you're a journalist, if you are a member of the public in Italy, you cannot know what kind of weapons you sent to Ukraine.
And this is this.
I mean, you are paying for weapons that you don't know and you don't even know what they are.
What kind of weapons are we sending to?
We don't know.
So this and the Italian minister said, well, I told them not to use them against Russia.
Well, bravo!
Applause!
Like the Mussolini-Nazi connection coming back to the surface, it sounds like.
Yeah, well, I mean, that is the problem.
There is definitely part of the Italian right who has sided in the past and continues to side with Ukraine because Ukraine has a historical link with the SS, with the Nazis.
And of course they are fighting the former Soviets, the former communists.
So there is that, there is unfortunately that thing.
It's sad though, because I think that the European establishment today is simply becoming the fourth Reich, like I explained in volume seven of my confession.
They are reflecting the power of a new Germany, which has been built upon anti-Nazism, just like Italy has in their new constitution that was after the war, repel fascism.
But who are they fighting and what are they supporting?
Because Zelensky and those people in Ukraine, they are openly Nazis.
Oh, yeah.
They're not just a Nazi.
No, no.
These people, they have their runes, they have their things.
They are really Nazi.
So I think we have a problem in Europe and Europe is very unstable at the moment.
And the problem is that now with the growing instability also in the Middle East, that is going to Also create a big problem for the South of Europe that will have to suddenly deal with millions of refugees from these wars.
Because if the conflict really now becomes much larger.
You were talking about Lebanon.
You have been in Lebanon.
In Lebanon there is actually an Italian 1,000 men who are located between Israel and Lebanon in a kind of cushion.
As peacekeeping force of the United Nations.
Right.
Those peacekeeping forces of the United Nations, they will be obliterated.
They will be wiped off the map in a second.
Hezbollah is going to roll right up, right past them.
You know, so it's going to be like that.
People don't know.
In the early 70s, before Lebanon became what it is today, Lebanon was the Swiss of the Middle East, was Switzerland of the Middle East.
It was a place where you had Some of the richer casinos in the world.
There was actually Rockefeller investing money in the casino, in one of the main casinos in Lebanon.
All the rich elite was there.
Everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like if you saw the way Beirut and the way it basically it was a little bit like Monte Carlo.
I was about to say that.
It's like the Paris and the Monte Carlo of the Middle East.
Yeah, that's how it was.
How it became like this.
Well, it became like this because from the area next to Jordan, the area, the Palestinians who were sent into Lebanon, destabilized Lebanon very much.
So here we are, of course, everybody is debating what is happening in the Middle East, but very few people know the history that, you know, Gaza, where Gaza borders with Egypt, just open the gates and let them all into Egypt.
If you are so caring, dear Muslims, of your Muslim brethren, let them into Egypt.
Nobody does that.
Why is that?
Because they are instrumentally used Even if it leads to a carnage for their own geopolitical games.
And they also see the Palestinians as dangerous, because within the whole of the Middle East today, the Palestinians are the more brainwashed and extremists.
Who from a very tender age are brought up with their teachers in school saying, you have to hate the Jew, the Jew is wrong, the Jew this, the Jew that.
So they are brought up and brainwashed.
And that is a problem for many countries.
That education system that you talked about, and it's basically rooting into Europe and also America.
So that value system, the communist, you know... Yeah, of course.
We talked about the fact that between the 60s and the 70s, let's say, that our culture in the West was corrupted by these Marxist elements.
Eventually, after the end of the Cold War, these elements had the possibility to spread even further.
Because during the Cold War, there were mechanisms built up Like, stay behind operations, gladiating, that stopped the communists advancing, even ideologically, in all the countries.
The moment the Soviet Union ended up, it was almost like the United States at that point hung their hats and said, oh wow, we defeated communists, that's it, guys.
Now, but communists was at that point in their own campuses.
It was spreading in their own countries, in both America and in Europe.
And it's like a virus.
So uncontrolled communism, socialism.
Now you have a bunch of kids who don't know about the fall of the Berlin Wall, who don't know what happened before the fall of the Berlin Wall, who don't know that half of Europe was living under this dictatorship in that way.
So they don't have a direct experience with practical communism.
They have an experience with the ideology that they and then they mix it also with Islamic elements, which I don't know.
So in the end, we just we just find ourselves fighting now with our own children, our own youth, who seems to be completely Brainwashed in believing that today capitalism is not the right thing.
Capitalism is evil, inherently evil, and we need to find some other solution.
Having all these police is evil.
Oh, we have to replace the police with some kind of social structure that can help the criminals understand what is their own good.
Then maybe we can make them better.
All this bullshit!
But it was a pleasure to be together with you for this show, this long chat that we had.
For people who, of course, don't know my work, I would suggest both Volume 10 and Volume 9 for discussions on both the Middle East and also Ukraine that we had today.
And I want to tell you, Michael, that I have a surprise in a couple of weeks coming up.
And I will let you know about it.
It's a big surprise.
Oh, good.
And so you will be one of the first people who will tell about this new thing, this new project.
Thank you.
Thank you.
OK.
Yeah, I appreciate you coming on.
I know normally we release a book.
It's like you're releasing a book or A couple of times a year, sometimes.
So it's good to have you in between a book.
And we'd love to have you on.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was good because... We get insights, yeah.
We discuss.
Some things about the books, we went also in what is happening around us today and how it relates to some of my books that, you know, always relate with the now, even if sometimes they explain the past, because at times we need to understand the past in order to understand the present.
But yes, there is a new book coming up And a new subject, I mean, a new subject, a subject that I might have touched briefly in past book, but this book will reveal finally.
I want to say more because I think that they will surprise you when you will see the whole thing.
And I think that I will make for a great set of subjects that we could discuss the next time we encounter.
And here in the virtual world, hopefully soon we will be able to meet those in the real world.
Thank you for having me on the show, Michael.
Thank you, Leo.
It's always a pleasure and honor to have you on.
The links will be in the description box, guys.
Just go on leozagami.com for my latest articles.
I want to also tell our viewers who are viewing us now, I haven't published new articles in the last couple of weeks.
I had some personal matters to deal with, but I will be back soon with new articles.
And like I said, a big announcement at the end of this month.
Nice.
All right.
Thanks, Leo.
All the best, Michael.
Take care and send my regards to also Tracy.
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