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May 27, 2024 - The Leo Zagami Show

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ISLAM and THE END TIMES

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	Hello everyone, it's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets, joined once again by Leo Zagami, who has written over a dozen books, including the best-selling Pope Francis, The Last Pope?
	And we've also got him doing Volume 10 now.
	This is the result of almost three decades of research, personal experience, studies conducted by the author in Europe, Russia, the Middle East, and Europe.
	This is the first book published in a recently naturalized American citizen.
	So, congratulations on that.
	Confessions of Illuminati, Volume 10, Islamic Freemasonry and the Secret Societies Behind the Eternal Conflict in the Middle East.
	Thanks for joining us again, Leo.
	Thank you for having me on, Michael, and I only felt comfortable to put out this book once I'm American, because America is the only country where you can really talk honestly about these subjects and hopefully not end up stabbed in the eye like Salman Rushdie.
	That is something that happened here in America.
	I hope it's not going to happen anymore.
	I mean, if you write books like this in Europe these days, you will be censored, you will be persecuted.
	As you know, Europe is currently under an Islamic invasion of sorts, so these subjects are very delicate.
	However, I want to also confess to you that this book It's not a book that I want to insult or want to take sides with anybody.
	It wants to simply expose the truth and wants to expose the truth that is maybe uncomfortable for Muslims, that is maybe uncomfortable for Christians, that is maybe uncomfortable for Jews, but it wants to simply open up because we need to open up, we need to confront ourselves in an intelligent way.
	Otherwise, with all the brainwashing that is going on today in our universities in particular, We are very confused.
	We are also building up future generations of very confused people.
	I mean, there is basically the tentacles of Salafi jihadism that used to be restricted to Muslim countries are now much more wide in the Western world.
	And they are not only targeting And this book, like I said, doesn't want to really take sides.
	University is also anybody, anybody that goes to a university today will end up in a sort of intifada of sorts.
	And this book, like I said, doesn't want to really take sides, wants to simply explain you that at the end of the day, there's no faction that has the ultimate ethical and moral superiority.
	And so we need to be honest.
	We need to be completely honest.
	And the Muslims themselves need to be honest.
	That's why I'm very grateful that this book is already reaching the The charts of Islamic history, Islamic social sciences on Amazon in the number one or at least in the first 20 positions of these charts.
	And it's happening very fast, I must say.
	So without really having still any negative reactions, even from the Muslim world, because like I said, this is not a book that wants to insult anybody, Michael.
	Or wants to get into the fate of somebody and become, you know, like... Because, I mean, the fate of somebody is a very particular thing, is a very precious thing.
	And so this is the fastest expanding religion in the world.
	And it's ourselves here in the West that need to expose The truths that I have mentioned in this book, so to also make the people in Islamic countries understand that we are no fools here, that there is nobody that can be brought up for a camel ride in this situation.
	I mean, of course, here I'm also being a little bit, joking a little bit with the subject, I went on a camel ride and like I said in this book and the experience of my camel ride in the desert brought me for a ritual in the middle of the night in the Giza pyramid with the Sufi who were part of the military intelligence of Egypt I have to admit, it was the safest I've ever felt in Egypt.
	I noticed that.
	In fact, I was praying for you because with your soul to stay.
	I have to admit it was the safest I've ever felt in Egypt.
	I've been to Egypt.
	That was my third trip over the last 40 years.
	And I felt more at ease and more comfort with the Egyptian people than I've ever felt before in my life.
	I think that since the Muslim Brotherhood has been cut off, the political discourse is much safer for us.
	It really is.
	Good point.
	But there was a moment in which, with the Muslim Brotherhood arriving into the political discourse, things were getting pretty dangerous.
	I'm glad that you had this sense.
	Of course, I think that the period of stability that Egypt had with Mubarak is unprecedented and is difficult to match, even for the present government in Egypt.
	But let's also not forget the trip that Barack Hussein Obama did in Egypt when he delivered this speech which was meant to bring peace to the Middle East and actually fomented the ultimate catastrophe in the creation of the Islamic State.
	So here we are today and I'm glad to be with you on your show because I know that you have a past military experience that will make you understand Yeah, very few.
	because how many folks from America go and give their lives to these wars without really knowing what they're fighting here?
	Yeah, very few.
	Less than 1%.
	There is a lot of people that really need to understand what the government is doing, what the military industrial complex has been working with.
	And all this is connected to an alliance that goes back to the time of the crusades in the nice templates.
	So in my book I bring, with historical evidence, a better understanding of the present.
	Because we can't really understand the present without understanding the past.
	And in this article, which is showing from my website, I also included the index of my latest book.
	So if you want, we can go through the index.
	We can debate it and discuss it a little bit.
	As I know, you are still now starting to read the Kindle, so probably you will not have had much time to dwell into it.
	And it is, of course, a book that needs time.
	And it is a book, though, that will open the mind of many Americans who know very, very little about Islam, but even the Muslims who at times know only their own truth from their own faction, because here we're talking about a very fragmented religion.
	Even more fragmented than Christianity.
	You see, until Martin Luther, we didn't really have a fragmentation.
	Okay, we had, of course, the Oriental Churches, the Orthodox Church schism, but everything was done quite moderately compared to how the schism started to multiply in the Muslim world after the first schism between Sunni and Shia.
	And then from that Shia schism, We had a variety of schisms.
	At times they even gave birth to a completely new religion, like it is in the case of the Druze.
	I wanted to make people really understand also what I personally went through, because I went to Egypt in 2003, and that was
	The beginning of a journey that brought me directly into the Islamic world with an Islamic name, Khaled Saifullah Khan, working and operating within an organization that is called the Gulen Movement, that is one of the most influential organizations in the world in regards to Sunni Islam.
	And that was, of course, as you know, involved with the 2016 coup attempt in Turkey.
	So I ended up losing my only child.
	And that's why this book opens up with a dedication to my child.
	Oh, I saw that.
	Yes.
	Isaac Rumi.
	In this book, I explain how After this ritual which I conducted in Egypt, I was introduced to this descendant of Prophet Muhammad, which basically presented itself as a moderate Muslim.
	But then, unfortunately, there is no such thing as moderate Islam.
	Even if, I must say, and you, I'm sure you went to many Islamic countries and so you know this, there is also very good people in the Islamic world, the people that have a Direct relationship with God, whose heart we can consider pure.
	They touch their heart and they really mean it when they do that.
	The problem is the organizations, the religious organizations that are always tending to mix political reasons with religion.
	And the mix is diabolical and perverse.
	And in Islam, unfortunately, like I said, it started probably from the very early stages of this religion, which started to fragment right from the beginning after the death of Prophet Muhammad.
	I mean, you see, he had appointed a successor and the first four caliphs, actually, there was a fifth one, but it didn't last that long, of this dynasty, The fourth one, though, was Ali.
	Ali was a very majestic figure during the war, the flag bearer of Islam.
	He was a very powerful figure.
	He had married the daughter of Prophet Muhammad.
	And the problem was that at one point, like I explain in my book, they took this figure and gave him probably too much importance and brought him to a level that was equal, if not even superior for some, to Muhammad.
	And that really gave birth to the Shia religion, the Shia faith, that then We'll give birth, though, to the Fatimid dynasty.
	Now, for those who are following us, I don't want to give too many names.
	I will always refer, of course, to the book, and they can go back to the book to have a more clear understanding of what I'm saying.
	But the Fatimid dynasty that, in fact, has a long history in Egypt, as you know, was the dynasty of the caliphs that basically conquered A vast land.
	Before the Sunnis could really expand so much, it was the Shia Fatimids that expanded.
	And the Fatimids, though, were led from behind the scenes from a lodge, a lodge that some say even predates Islam.
	Because reality is part of that ancient mystery school from Memphis, from Alexandria.
	I mean, Egypt is... We are talking here about the very roots also of the secret societies, because when people say the Illuminati, Freemasons, yeah, but where they come from?
	I mean, very few people, like we mentioned Volume 9 earlier when we were about to start the show, and Volume 9 is very important because I showed how The Gnostics are the very early Illuminati, no?
	And in Volume 9, the cover that you're showing has an image, the image of Baphomet, which is now paraded across the Capitol Hills of America by the Satanic Temple.
	But the original Baphomet was actually not that one.
	That one was a portrayal, a depiction made by the guy who invented the word occultist, Eliphas Levi.
	In my book I show, for the first time, this cross.
	This cross which basically was discovered in a Templar church between Turkey and Syria.
	It's actually still sitting in a depot in Istanbul and will probably never be shown to the world as an archaeological discovery.
	It's of great importance because it demonstrates All the accusations of the Knights that were made against the Knights Templars were based on some mysterious baphomet that nobody knew what it was, this creature, this thing, there were various.
	And so here you see the baphomet is depicted in that traditional way by Eliphas, traditional for us now in the occultist world.
	with this finger pointing up and one pointing down because it's also reflecting the rule of the emerald in tablets.
	And so that is really what Baphomet is today.
	Now, I don't know if I can share from my side.
	Let me know if I can share on my side an image because if I could, I might be able to show you one of the most important
	Let me see if I can maybe do it from my side and show you, because it might help also our viewers understand, because this image that, like I said, has never really been shown publicly, was given to me By a dear friend of mine, who was the head of Gerai Elveti Sufi, Gabriele Mandelkann.
	I'm going to show Gabriele Mandelkann.
	This also starts to make you understand, you know, there is actually in the Islamic world, the Freemasons.
	People are like Freemasons.
	Here, we're going to show Gabriele Mandelkann.
	If you can manage to bring it up on the screen.
	I have brought it up on my side.
	I don't know if you are able to bring it on your side.
	If you're not, I will pick it up from the book.
	It might be more simple for our viewers.
	We have both StreamYard, so I don't know, though, if this is going to be very clear.
	So this is basically a cross.
	Yes, what you're showing, this is Gabriele Mandelkahn.
	Now, Gabriele Mandelkahn, was a very important figure, the late Gabriele Mandel Kahn, who headed a Sufri fraternity known as the Gerai Elveti.
	And as you can see, he's also wearing a sash of the 30th degree of Freemasonry, because he was a Freemason.
	This is a particular degree, by the way, Freemasons of the ancient Ancestor Scottish Rite know very well the teachings of this degree, introduced the Knights Tempers, and that's why we are here debating also the Baphomet figure that is so important to the Knights Tempers.
	So let me see if I can also show you on full screen like you just shown.
	Let me see if I can find it here and show it for you also from my side.
	Let me see if I manage otherwise we will probably stick to what I've shown you.
	Of course people are invited to go and check out directly the book so they can have no problem in Checking out this image, which I'm just discussing now.
	Why is it so important, this image, that we discuss now?
	Because this image is heretical by Islamic standards.
	You will never represent the face of Mohammed, as you know.
	You will never represent the face of Mohammed, as you know.
	And, of course, you will never, ever put the face of Mohammed on a cross.
	That is totally heretic.
	So who were these people who did that within Islam?
	Well, like we were talking earlier, we discussed the Cairo Lodge.
	The Cairo Lodge gave birth to another group which is well known and that inspired the Knights Templars.
	I'm talking about the Order of Assassins, the Nizari Order of Assassins, of a man called Hassan-i-Sabah.
	And yes, you have it also there, so actually there you can show it probably even better than what I showed you from the book.
	That's why this image is probably so important and central in Volume 10 of my Confessions, because this image has never been shown publicly.
	It's an image that might create a lot of controversy within the Islamic world but there is no way of debunking it because it was found in a Templar church and the Knights Templars had a secret alliance with the Assassins.
	So people will be a little bit confused here because the Knights Templars were also the ones who were waging war against Saladin.
	Let me explain this in very layman terms so people don't get confused.
	Islam was already divided at that point.
	The Shia factions are already divided and gave birth also to the Nizari, who gave birth to the Assassins of Al-Shani Sabbah.
	Al-Shani Sabbah had been initiated in that lodge in Cairo, which was very influential and powerful during the Fatimid dynasty.
	And that gave birth also to what is known as the House of Knowledge.
	So it's very important for people to understand here where we are, because historically speaking, this alliance will carry on until 9-11.
	And Mohammed Atta and those people who were trained and brought here to do those terrible actions that affected all of America, come from this tradition.
	So it's very important for me to explain this correctly, so that people can have an understanding, a correct understanding.
	Now, originally, the jihad, let's say, was about expansion of Islam.
	Islam created the concept, though, soon after his establishment, known as the ribat.
	The ribat is a concept of fortified units that protected those pilgrims who were journeying to Mecca.
	Now, this concept is paradoxically the concept that gave birth to the crusades because after this concept and the holy warriors involved in the ribat and the giyad protected by these fortresses, they inspired the birth of the Knights Templars they inspired the birth of the Knights Templars through the Ashashins because...
	Until the Knights Templars, until the Crusades, there was no such concept as holy war in Christianity.
	This has to be very clear for all Christians.
	There was no holy war in Christianity.
	It was the Christians who went to the Middle East and saw these people doing those things, said, wow, we need to also have our own holy warriors.
	And so they started to found the first knights of the Holy Sepulchre, then the knights of the Templars, and then, of course, the knights that came to be known as the Knights of Malta, which were the knights originally of Cyprus and Rodi.
	And so these knighthoods, as you know, became involved with the Crusades.
	And nowadays, when you go to the Middle East, a typical thing of the Middle Eastern is to accuse the Westerners of being crusaders in league with greater Israel for the conquest of all the Muslim countries.
	Now, with this book, I prove with concrete evidence that can't be debunked even by the Muslims, that they were the ones who inspired it.
	So they inspired their own demise in this case, okay?
	It's a very powerful book because it brings you to the realization that here there is nobody, like I said earlier, that has the higher moral or ethic pedestal to say, oh, I'm in the right and you are in the wrong.
	No, I'm sorry, nobody's in the right here.
	Nobody's in the right.
	Neither the Christians, who should have probably known better to create maybe a group like the Knights Templar and started the Crusades, which earlier on, the Crusades, and of course, the concept of knighthood is a great concept.
	I mean, I have been involved in templaries, neo-templaries.
	I was the Grandmaster of the State Templar of Servants, as you know.
	But the thing is, today, If you ask a Christian to go and suicide himself in the name of God, will he do that?
	No!
	Forget it!
	We are in the year 2024, whatever!
	If you ask a Muslim, there might be a chance that he would do it.
	So what is the difference here?
	How are these two cultures developed?
	How does a culture like Islam, who through the golden age of Islam, brought us things like algebra, the algorithm.
	If we are capable to communicate today, it's through an algorithm.
	Coffee, amongst other things.
	And the list goes on and on.
	I just invite you to go on the internet.
	I think there is actually a Wikipedia page about all the things that were brought to us during the golden age of Islam.
	So how did we go from a golden age of Islam to the year 2024 where the majority of Islamic countries are kept in a third world condition, in a barbaric condition, in an oppression for the women that is never equated here in the world?
	Why?
	Why we suddenly they lost the fact they were spearheading the technology also?
	And then, if it wasn't for them, we would not have had the Renaissance.
	Historically speaking, the Renaissance came through them.
	But then, in my book, I also explain how this happened, how there were two important centers of power in the Islamic world, and I open up the book showing This place competed with another equally important university and house.
	Dar al-Him, which is the house of knowledge of Cairo in Cairo.
	This place competed with another equally important university and house.
	This was the emanation of the Cairo Lodge, by the way, and it was created during the Fatimid dynasty.
	But then they were competing with Baghdad, Baghdad had not been conquered by the Fatimid.
	Eventually, Baghdad will be the house of wisdom, will become an equally, if not superior, house of knowledge.
	Even if the house of knowledge is the one in Cairo.
	This was called the house of wisdom, the one in Baghdad.
	And that's where a lot of the knowledge that we were talking about regarding algebra, but also the ancient Greek philosophers, Hermetic, and all that knowledge that was lost during the Dark Ages in Europe resurfaced.
	Because of the West interest, of course, in these subjects, later on we will have the Renaissance.
	But before the Renaissance, Europe was pretty much in a dark situation.
	The fall of the Roman Empire, the fact that the Byzantium Empire, the fall of the Roman Empire, also got under attack by the Muslim world.
	And at one point, the Fatimid dynasty failed because, of course, there was the advance of the Sejuk Turks, of Saladin, that later on will become the basis for the successive establishment of the Roman that later on will become the basis for the successive establishment The successive buildup of what then became the longer running empire in the Muslim world, the Ottoman Empire.
	And.
	And if we have a crisis today in the Middle East, it's because the crisis was created by the French, the English, the Russians, the people from Europe who had interest in the Middle East, in making this Ottoman Empire finally fail and collapse.
	If we are today in front of a Middle Eastern crisis, it's because of all this that was generated by the great British Empire.
	We had an excellent portrait of Lawrence of Arabia.
	of this incredible figure, which of course demonstrates how the Brits were heavily involved in which of course demonstrates how the Brits were heavily involved in the establishment of what we now call the
	The Wahhabis are the ones who nowadays sponsor international terrorism because they are the Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, all the money of the world circulates through Dubai.
	These are the people with the cash that manifest a form of Islam that sprang out of Salafism, but didn't become Salafi Jihadism.
	No, they didn't need to do that.
	They can just sponsor it.
	So when I wrote this book, I wanted, of course, to touch on all these subjects in a way that people will understand the importance of what we are discussing, because there will not be any Freemasonry without the Middle East.
	There will not be any Illuminati without the Middle East, because aside from the Gnostics, another great inspiration for the Illuminati was, of course, the Zoroastrians.
	But the Zoroastrians, the Manicheans, the Gnostics, they actually never went away directly They resurfaced in the form of Sufi fraternities, mixing elements of Islam with their medical sciences, with the Gnosticism, even the concept that we find in the Koran of Jesus not being brought on the cross.
	That's why when I showed the image of Mohammed on the cross, I said it's an image that, of course, It's heretic and even impossible to digest for a Muslim because they couldn't even digest that Jesus went on the cross.
	Imagine if they could tolerate Mohammed going on the cross!
	That's why in the Quran they say that at the last minute the body was basically the Jesus figure was translated into another body, and that the body of the guy who went on the cross was basically at that point somebody else.
	That is called docetism, and it's a concept that Islam took from the gnostics.
	So you see here we have also elements of Islam that come from pre-existing religions, and that's why when Islam was born between Mecca and Medina, Saudi Arabia and that's why when Islam was born between Mecca and Medina, And then it started to expand, but then it expanded in Persia.
	Here we're talking about ancient Sumeria, cultures of thousands of years.
	You think they would just scrap everything, destroy everything and say, OK, we throw everything out the window because Mohammed arrived with his revelation?
	Of course not.
	But they couldn't.
	also be so open about that.
	They had to create secret societies to protect that knowledge because otherwise their throat will be cut off.
	And in this book I show how the the citizens of Aran, which is now a city which is in Turkey, which was a very important city, thousands of years old, established by the people who founded the great city of Ur.
	Here we're talking about ancient Mesopotamia, Sumeria.
	Here we're talking about the roots of the Illuminati.
	So just to make it clear for everybody who is watching us, in Aran, this was the chief seat, place, headquarters of the Illuminati of the Middle East, When Islam arrived, they simply adapted, and then they brought their knowledge that they had preserved from Dermatica to Baghdad, to the House of Wisdom, which I talked about to you earlier.
	Who destroyed in the end these people?
	Well, it wasn't actually the confrontation between the, neither it was the Templars, neither it was the Sunnis who had managed to kill all the Shiites.
	It was actually the Mongols of Genghis Khan arrived there and they slaughtered and they destroyed all the fortresses of the Ashashins, the Nizari Shiites.
	And they made deals with the Sunnis, but they destroyed the Shiite predominance.
	And so the Fatimids were basically, imagine the Fatimids were establishing themselves in south of Italy.
	I have, my name, Zagami, comes from Zaham.
	He who works hard for God.
	From the island I come from, it's a small island, when my father came from Alicudia, I explain this in the book, is Alicur, the Rock of Ali, because they were Shiite at one point in that time.
	So, so it's, it's, it's, and actually the word mafia, Which, of course, has also an acronym.
	But Mafia was a tribe living in Parermo of Muslims who got people to pay money if they wanted to have their shop open.
	And that's how, because that's a Muslim rule.
	And it became a Mafia rule.
	It became the Mafia.
	So here we have the origins of one of the most feared everybody's like, "The Godfather!" Yeah.
	So in your book you're talking about the origins of the order of assassins.
	It seems to be pretty, pretty prominent.
	What can you tell us about that?
	Yes.
	The Order of Assassins is described also by Marco Polo.
	You know, Marco Polo was the Italian traveler who went from Italy to China.
	In his account, he also talks about how Hassan al-Isabah had established himself As Hassan I, he had this fortress in which he initiated... First of all, let's talk about where Hassan comes from, because he comes from this place.
	He comes from Cairo.
	He went in Cairo, he was initiated there, and after he was initiated, He had some problems with the local military authorities.
	He didn't really get on well.
	Let's say that he had some problems.
	So he leaves Egypt.
	He goes and finds new people within the Nizari world.
	This was a sect which he entered, which was connected to the lodge of Cairo, the terrible lodge of Cairo.
	Which basically at one point you see it's very important for people to understand this and so I'm gonna if people have a notebook maybe they should take notes about this because it's very important what I'm about to tell you here.
	There was a guy in the Fatimid dynasty, the Fatimid dynasty established themselves like the descendants of Fatima and Ali.
	They were Shiites, okay?
	And there was a guy within the Fatimid dynasty called Al-Akhim bin Al-Allah.
	Now, better known with his regal name, because this was his regal name, his non-regal name was Abu Ali Al-Mansur.
	Now, this guy is very important.
	Because he has become, to this day, a god for certain factions of Islam.
	I'm not saying everybody treats him as a god, but he is basically the most important figure in a number of Shia Ismaili sects.
	The Ismailis, and here was a branch of Shia Islam, is a branch still in existence.
	Today headed by a guy called, which has the office, it's like the Pope, they call him the Aga Khan, and he's still in existence.
	They are the moneylenders of Islam, something that actually is forbidden in traditional Islam.
	But at the time, this ruler by the order of God, Al-Hakim, was considered almost like the Nero of Egypt.
	He started to, you see, up until him, Fatimid tolerated the Christians, tolerated the Jews, didn't have any problem with the synagogues being there, didn't have any problem with the Coptic Christians.
	He destroyed everything.
	He made sure that his rule of Islam was so strict, his Sharia, that nobody could go partying in Cairo any longer.
	Cairo was becoming a In the end, this guy was probably killed by Egyptians who really had enough of this guy.
	He was made to disappear.
	But from the moment he disappears, he almost becomes a god.
	And in fact, today, 15 million Nizaris, 1 to 2 million Mustalis, and 2 million Druze, which is another religion altogether because it doesn't respect the traditional tenets of Islam.
	They have this figure as the most important imam.
	He is the ruler by the order of God.
	The fact that he is controversial is proven also by the fact that nobody has ever found his body after his alleged death.
	It is a controversial figure, of course, but like I said, he inspired the Nizaris and Hassani Sabbah was a member of this Nizari.
	He had been there in Egypt, going through the three degrees of the Nizaris, which basically were like initiations until you became basically somebody who was like a master of this and could bring other people into this religion.
	So, Hassan Isaba had established himself within the Nizari, and it was though a time of great tension here, because you see, while the Nizari, the Mustari, and all these people revere this Allah Kim Biramra Allah as a godly figure, his son started to persecute these people, saying, "You are all crazy, My father was no guy like that.
	Humans.
	It was like a confrontation, a battle against the Druze.
	Again, the Nizaris had to flee over.
	So you see, this shows that really there is a lot of chaos that emanates from this religion from the very start.
	And if we go even before with Ali, Well, then you have the Battle of the Camel that basically started when the Prophet died.
	These people started to fight within his own family.
	Within his own family, they started to kill each other.
	The crazy thing about the Order of the Assassins, after Hassan Ibn Sabah founded the Order of the Assassins, they started a tradition whereby if you wanted to become a Grandmaster, you had to kill the prior Grandmaster.
	Wow.
	You know, OK, then I think Hassani Sabbah was killed by his probably son-in-law.
	I don't know.
	There was a series of people.
	So at the end, every single grandmaster was killed by the successive one.
	If you manage basically to kill the grandmaster, you become a grandmaster.
	That was the rule.
	The Shashins also not only lived by the sword, but lived by this innovative idea that gave birth to jihadism.
	The idea that the Jihad is not only an internal struggle in which you have to reach a more godly existence, but it is a way of fighting and imposing the fight, not with conventional warfare.
	You see, up until the arrival of the Hashashins, the Muslims were simply expanding.
	Going to each person, like they went to the people of Iran and they said, are you Muslims?
	And they fought about it.
	And they were the only ones who got out of it because they called the lawyer and said, read the Quran.
	Oh yeah, it says here we are the Sabians, we are the people of the book too.
	There were no Sabians, they just created that.
	They found that there was this kind of escamotage in the Holy Book.
	But that was the way that they present Hermeticism, by simply saying that their God was Hermetic, Jesus, and they were the Sabians that the Koran talked about.
	I mean, for people who are following us probably at this point, all these names are wandering in their heads and they have a lot of confusion.
	But let me tell you very simply, in a very simplistic way, Hassani Sabbah created the Order of the Sassim based on those initiations he learned in Cairo.
	And those initiations were based, of course, on the very ancient initiations of the Illuminati in ancient Egypt.
	And one of these initiations inspired particularly Hassan Issadbar.
	So he will give this smoke.
	They will smoke ashish.
	That's why they're called ashashins.
	Ashish.
	Smoke copious amounts of ashish.
	They will fall asleep.
	They will be picked up, kidnapped, put blindfolded.
	Put in a place to then reawaken in front of this paradise of naked women and things.
	At that point, the master will tell them, this is paradise that Mohammed has promised you in the Quran.
	There is 72 virgins here and you will see them all and you will have fun with them only if you now obey my laws up to your death.
	And they were like, wow, man.
	This is great stuff.
	Oh, I'm going out.
	I want to come back here.
	This is the place to be.
	I have 72 virgins.
	The whole place is great.
	So at that point.
	They will be, of course, brought into their shashins after being initiated.
	There will be levels of initiations, of course.
	So it will bring them to become more and more aware of their the hierarchy role that they had, and it was about killing their enemies.
	But who were these enemies?
	The Knights Templars knew that the Ashashins could be some very powerful allies in the war against Saladins and the Sunni, and they started to say, okay, we can work together.
	We can take basic advantage of the divisions here in the Muslim world, said the Pope.
	Let them fight against each other so we can dominate.
	Divide and conquer, and so divide and conquer.
	But the Knights Templars couldn't arrive in the crusade scenario which started prior to that.
	To protect the pilgrims by going around assassinating military or political leaders from the Muslim world.
	They will be viewed as thugs.
	They will be viewed as thugs.
	They will say, well, these guys are like, you know, these guys are thugs.
	So instead, they use the Ashashins.
	And going back to the word thugs, thugs comes from another sect of assassins, but from India.
	So, you know, it's all part of, you know, it's just like the Sicarii.
	The Sicarii was an ancient sect of Jewish assassins.
	So here we are, though, in a new modality of jihadism.
	And that new modality of jihadism, if you think about it, is a very dirty one.
	It's not, it's very, even Saladin, They attempted to kill Saladin two times, the Ashashins.
	They killed a bunch of... You can go on the internet and find a list of all the people that were killed by the Ashashins.
	They were very effective.
	They were very effective because they were like ninjas arriving in the middle of the night dressed in black thing and slipping your throat from the back without any ethics or morals for the killing.
	It wasn't like, you know, the knights were like, hey, I'm gonna have my sword and you're gonna and we're gonna fight and tit-tit-tit.
	No.
	It wasn't like that.
	The Ashashins would dress up as a woman and, you know, cover themselves and in the middle of the night they would come and slip your throat.
	I mean, so this is the modality.
	And that is the modality that later on was brought, paradoxically, to the Sunni world that once fought them.
	But a few centuries later, there was a guy A guy, and I talk about this guy and I show him in my book, this guy here.
	If you see him, you say, this is another guy with the tour bank.
	Here it is.
	This is the guy who inspired the founder, this is Jamaleddin al-Afghani.
	Already from the name Jamaleddin al-Afghani, you see this Jamaleddin al-Afghani?
	Now you would not think that Jamaluddin Afghani was a good friend of Madame Blavatsky and was working with intelligence operatives from Great Britain and he was the Grand Master of the most powerful Grand Lodge in Egypt.
	And he was a member of one of the most powerful British lodges in Egypt before he decided to go and do Freemasonry with the Grand Order of France because it was a bit too religious there.
	Because this guy, He is considered today, if you go on the internet, the father of Islamic modernism.
	He is the father of the Salafi movement.
	Without him, there would not be Salafi jihadism, there would not be Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Houthis, whoever you want to mention, no matter if they're Sunni or Shiites.
	No kidding.
	Wow.
	So let's talk a little bit about this guy, because already, you know, the name is itself a name that can create confusion.
	Jamaleddin al-Afghani.
	So you think of Afghanistan, no?
	Oh, that must be some guy from a cave in Afghanistan.
	No, that guy must be a Sunni.
	Actually, he was born in Persia.
	He was born in contemporary Iran.
	He was probably of Shia origins, but then entered the Sunni world, claiming to be an Afghani.
	Because in Afghanistan, you have the Sunni world, very powerful.
	So this guy enters the Egyptian world, and in the matter of 10 years, he is so powerful that not only he gets the respect of all the people within one of the most influential lodges created by the United Grand Lodge of England, but he manages he is so powerful that not only he gets the respect of all the people 350 of the most influential people in Egypt become his loyal supporters.
	Amongst his supporters, the future people who basically founded the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928 in Albana.
	So here we are, we go back.
	But this guy here was staying with Madame Blavatsky in Paris.
	He was in Paris with Madame Blavatsky.
	He went to Russia to work with the... I mean, this is no guy with the turban living in some cave.
	This guy was in the most illuminati circles in Europe.
	He was at the birth of the Theosophical Society.
	He was involved with... and so people say, but where is this guy coming from?
	How he can have so much knowledge?
	How he has so much power?
	We go back to the same place, that Cairo Lodge, which I mentioned earlier.
	And that Cairo Lodge, which I mentioned earlier, I'm glad that you are today capable of maybe showing the image because I'm going to show you a very rare image I was capable of doing, of photographing this in Cairo in 2003.
	I'm talking about this sword, the sword which is basically The sword apparently shouldn't exist because Freemasonry officially, Speculative Freemasonry in Egypt only appears a few decades later.
	But this sword is the first Masonic, Speculative Masonic sword in Egypt with the date 7077 and I'm going to now show it to you, put it on your side so you can show Your viewers.
	Here we go.
	Now, the story of finding the sword in Egypt, because you see, when you go here, 1777, the first Masonic sword in Egypt was brought into the desert for three days and
	The guy who is holding it in his hand, you can see the Arabic hand, is Mohamed El Gabri from one of the most famous families of archaeologists, of artifact smugglers also.
	I happened to go there with, I was guested in Egypt by the Butrus Ghali family.
	You know who was Butrus Ghali?
	Butrus Butrus was the head of the United Nations, the Secretary General.
	Yes, yes.
	His family was connected with Jamaleddin al-Afghani because the guy who gave birth to the Butrusgalli dynasty, Pasha Butrusgalli, was a member of that lodge.
	This sword is to be found in a little shop which is near the What used to be the headquarters of the Knights of Malta in Cairo.
	And it's near the offices of the Budrusgali family.
	And it is actually the offices of Mohamed El Gabri, who is also a member of the Club of Rome.
	And I happened to arrive there, I remember it was approximately around lunchtime.
	And he recognized me as a Freemason.
	So he was very excited because officially Freemason is prohibited in Egypt today.
	And so you have to be very careful in the modes of recognition and everything.
	It was the year 2003.
	It was during the Ramadan.
	And he said, Leo, I want to show you something.
	And he took out this sword and he said, this is the first Egyptian Masonic sword.
	And I was like, wow.
	And it comes from that lodge in Cairo that exists for almost a thousand years, because if you think about it, from the Fatimid, then it became part of speculation.
	You see, they adapted their lodge to speculative Western Freemasonry, and so to the symbolism of Western Freemasonry.
	But their lodges, of course, are more ancient than speculative Western Freemasonry, which was officially founded in England in 1717.
	So this sword is very important because the official history of Freemasonry in Egypt only lets you go back until 1805-1803, when there was the first official lodge.
	During also the Napoleonic period in Egypt, there was of course the first French lodges that arrived there.
	Then we have, of course, the arrival of the Memphis Rite of Freemasonry, Memphis and Mizraim, which is 1995.
	Some even go to 99, 100 degrees.
	It's a very high level form of Freemasonry.
	It's known as Memphis and Mizraim.
	However, Memphis and Misrine were united only later on by Giuseppe Garibaldi.
	They were divided at one point and they were very much practiced by the French Illuminati who went to Egypt and ended up working together with the Egyptians.
	Going back to this gentleman, Jemaleddin al-Afghani, this guy is no primitive guy with a turban who only knew about Islam.
	Like I explain in this book, the creator of what is worshipped today by Islamic people, like the founder of modern Islamic thinking, was actually a guy who said, Well, I use religion for these primitive people.
	His mentality was, we need to keep them oppressed with this demented religion.
	In time, in our lodges, we worship what we want in the name of reason and science, because a thousand years before, the Fatimids themselves You know, when you think about the Fatimid, I told you about these caliphs, you know, you will think about these people, ruler of God, the guys all... you might think about some very pious people.
	No, the lodge in Cairo was known as the Lodge of Reason.
	Within the lodge there was only science, only mathematics, only... there was no Going after some kind of hypothetical mystic, you know, they were very critical.
	So when it came down to Islam, they said, because this happened when Islam arrived into territories like Persia or Egypt, which had, like I said earlier, pre-existing religions and cultures that were very ancient.
	That gave birth to what we consider civilization.
	So they didn't disappear.
	They went into their lodges, the Middle Eastern Illuminati.
	They read the Koran and they came up with solutions.
	Yeah, well, we can adapt to this.
	We can adapt to that.
	OK, we create another version of Islam.
	Fine.
	Give me another one.
	And so expanded, expanded.
	A lot of versions of Islam, which of course started to retain also other pre-existing teachings.
	If you think about it though, even Christianity was a little bit like this in the early days.
	Because when Christianity started to expand, the Empire wanted to make it the religion of the Empire much later.
	At the beginning the Christians were persecuted, the Christians were not really united, so the Oriental churches will stop.
	The Council of Nicaea decided what Christianity had to be for the Empire, for the Roman Empire, and in this decision we also see, you know, there was, you think that the people who were worshipping Isis Mithra or other cults in ancient Rome wanted their cults completely destroyed and obliterated by the Christians?
	No!
	They simply adapted.
	They say, OK, don't destroy this place of worship.
	We transform it.
	It's no longer Isis.
	We call it the Black Mary.
	This other place, oh, well, we call it Saint this or Saint that.
	And we worship it, keeping that notch of pagan element.
	So real Christianity, unfortunately, also had these problems.
	We see the controversy of the so-called satanic verses.
	I don't know if you ever heard of the controversy of the satanic verses that of course was made popularized by Salman Rushdie.
	The book of Salman Rushdie was the one who popularized it.
	But the satanic verses are controversial.
	They are found in Quran Quran 53 and the Surah 53, 19, 20.
	And what is this satanic verses?
	Why they're called satanic verses?
	Because in the early stages of Islam, Muhammad initially God along with the tribe that was in charge of Mecca.
	But let's not forget that Mecca had 360 idols to worship.
	And this guy arrives and says only one.
	What the heck are we going to do?
	360?
	Are we going to send them?
	Are we going to create a pension plan for these 360?
	So the tension started to build up and Mohammed was kindly invited to leave And he had to go to Medina.
	That's why Medina became the second most important holy place in Islam.
	Until the Islamic religion became more and more powerful.
	So powerful that Muhammad could go back to Mecca and make his great show of destroying all the idols and taking over all the show.
	He didn't want to really upset them too much.
	So in these satanic verses that inspired the Salman Rushdie novel, Mohammed praised out, for convenience, three Islamic Arabian goddesses worshipped by the Meccans.
	It's like Jesus saying, oh, well, yeah, these three goddesses here, they're not too bad, you know, we should keep, you know, this is really bad for Islam.
	And for that reason, the very early Muslims said themselves that Muhammad was confused in that moment.
	He had a moment of confusion.
	In reality, apparently, it was made out of convenience, because there was In all the Middle East, and especially Mecca, but also in other parts.
	We talked about Haran earlier.
	Haran had the same problem.
	Haran was a city dedicated to the goddess Nan, Sin, the moon goddess.
	The moon goddess was the most powerful.
	And they couldn't get rid of it until they included it.
	The moon crescent.
	It became part of Islam.
	So they absorbed it.
	And for that reason, it's very controversial what Salman Rushdie has done, because he has gone there to pinpoint out this praising out of convenience of pre-Islamic Arabian goddesses.
	That, of course, doesn't sound very good for a guy who is supposed to be the ultimate monotheistic, you know, one god, Allah, that's it.
	You see, here there is a lot of things, at times, just left out for convenience.
	Like, I started this book, as you will see, with the history of Islam from the very birth of Muhammad, because I also show how he himself channeled the Quran, thanks to the cousin of his first wife, who was this rich woman, Khadija.
	Yeah, but the cousin was a Christian.
	A Christian, an Orthodox Christian, a guy who was really like this with God and with Christianity and so on.
	You can find, of course, in the Hadiths external to the Quran and the teachings that confirm that the cousin of Khadija was a Christian.
	But this, of course, is something that most Muslims don't want to even discuss, because how can they discuss that their prophet was actually involved with a Christian?
	It's a terrible thing.
	I have here the image of this guy here, who was the cousin of Khadija.
	His name was Wanak, and he basically was very influential in the early stages of the Koran, when the Koran was about to be received, because then he died and he didn't see the light of Islam.
	But later on, as confirmed by Islamic sources, this is why my book can't be debunked, because I take the sources directly from the Hadith, directly from the Sunnah, from the people of the most orthodox Islamic position, not even the ones later.
	So just to make it clear here also for the Muslims who might be watching.
	Can you share that picture again on the screen so I can see that one more time?
	You don't mind?
	Here.
	This guy.
	Now, with this guy here...
	You know, Alec, I know you're going to talk about, or maybe you won't, but maybe you will, Alec Crowley, right?
	I won't talk about Alec Crowley, but I'm going to talk about him.
	I wanted to conclude about the Catechist cousin because it became a big thing with a guy called Alberto Rivera, this alleged Jesuit who claimed that basically Islam was a creation of the Catholic Church.
	Now, in my book I show how Alberto Rivera was actually a real Jesuit and all that, but I also show the maybe impossibility that it wasn't because Catholicism Didn't really exist at the time.
	There was churches in that part of the world, there was oriental churches that end up becoming Orthodox churches.
	So let's say that.
	Islam was very much influenced by Orthodox Church, the Oriental Church, the Oriental Church, more than the Church of Rome.
	A church that has slightly different teachings.
	You showed Alistair Crowley, and that's a very good thing that you show me, so we can really talk about another big protagonist of the Cairo Lodge, because nobody knows that, but the people... I had no idea.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	You know, he does this magic of Abramel in The Mage.
	Thanks to this ritual, he basically had started a collaboration with McGregor Matters, who was the head of the Golden Dawn.
	He goes to Egypt, he interrupts his Magic of Abramel in the Mage, which is a ritual that lasts six months, to go on a honeymoon with Rose, who was his wife.
	He married somebody in the middle of this thing.
	He decided he had to go on a honeymoon.
	You shouldn't really interrupt that ritual.
	Okay, but he interrupted and he went to Egypt.
	In Egypt, he had translated a year prior to that, a grimoire today, together with McGregor Mathes, a grimoire which he wanted to recite in the chamber, the Great Chamber of the Pyramid of Giza, to impress his wife.
	He was like, okay, I'm going to impress you, Rose.
	Let's go and sleep in the Great Pyramid and I'm going to... When I went there, I had a certain respect about these things.
	Very big respect.
	I will not even touch these things.
	And when the Sufis offered me to do the ritual inside the Great Pyramid of Giza, I said, let's do it outside for respect.
	And because I didn't want to interfere with this energy.
	Crowley was not at all respectful of these energies.
	He started to do this ritual, which is an old grimoire.
	He started to read this grimoire and suddenly his wife goes in a state of trance.
	Says, basically, They want you.
	She starts to say that he has to go to what used to be a very important museum there in Cairo.
	I think it was called the Bullock Museum.
	At exhibit number 666, you will find your answer.
	Eventually, he arrived there and he finds this steel that is known as the Steel of Revealing at exhibit number 666, which demonstrates that this entity, Ibis, The messenger of Horus was actually connecting with him.
	But what people don't understand is that actually Alistair Crowley was fascinated with Islam, that he was fascinated with the channeling of the Koran that lasted a lot more than his three days in Cairo of channeling Aivas.
	It lasted 30 years.
	It was a little bit more complex, let's say, the Koran than his Book of the Law.
	But he channeled, he channeled This book of the law that became, unfortunately, the holy work, the holy scripture of the Illuminati.
	It gave birth to this Telema.
	But Telema, so this Ibis, people don't understand that in reality Crowley had been initiated into an Islamic secret society.
	The name that he gave to this holy guardian angel that he says was communicating with him is actually strikingly similar to the Islamic society called Aizawa, which Kroll himself claimed to have learned certain secrets from.
	So Aivas seems to be more or less an anagram of Aizawa.
	His book of the Law was basically another product of the Cairo Lodge, because the Cairo Lodge is a very powerful lodge, and it's not only working in the physical, but also in the metaphysical, in the astral, but also in the physical.
	I had a direct experience, I write it at the end of my book, my direct experience with them.
	They arrived on the boat and the ship there in Giza, parked there on the Nile, This group of people from the Brotherhood of Luxor, they opened this suitcase and they showed me the Lost Eye of Nefertiti and I was like, you know, what?
	And these people are still around and I was like shocked.
	And those are the people who also are connected with Jamaleddin al-Afghani.
	So, you see, it's all connected here, and Alistair Crowley, basically, in his confessions, he shows his real connection to the non-Sufi order, the Aizawa.
	Which is connected to the Cairo Lodge, which I explain also all the connection, because Aizawa is also known as Izawiya, Izawa, Aizawa, Izawa.
	And the religious Sunni-Islamic mystical brotherhood, which he was initiated in, was founded in Meknes, Morocco, by a guy called Sheikh Al-Kamil Mohammed Al-Ahid Ben Hissa.
	who was born in 1456 and died in 1465 and died in 1526.
	He didn't have really a long life, but he was best known as Sheikh Al-Kamil, the perfect Sufi master.
	It's very important to explain all these things because I was initiated in the OTO, in the Ordo Temporentis, and the first thing I saw when they took my blindfold off in the Minerva degree, It was shocking, Michael, because I thought I was getting initiated in some Egyptian thing, you know, full of Egyptian symbolism, Horus, Osiris.
	And suddenly, I remember, I go up the stairs.
	In Vauxhall, near the headquarters of CIS, MI5, MI6, there on the bridge.
	I don't know if you ever went to London.
	On the other side of the bridge, you have the headquarters, you have sometimes... Where the Cube is?
	Yeah.
	And on the side of the Cube, there is like a bridge, and then you go on the side, there's a little road, and then there is this place where they initiated me.
	Because of course they were under the protection of people.
	Wow, right there by MI5, MI6, that's crazy.
	It's like anyone between the James Bond movies, you know, when they show the headquarters MI5, MI6 or James Bond, that's what he's talking about, right?
	Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
	And actually, In volume one of my confession, I published the map that they gave me that day for the initiations, I think for also the ritual that they made after 9-11, which was called the Tabula Rasa Lodge.
	So they wanted to, it's very symbolic also, without getting lost.
	What happened was, they take away the blindfold and suddenly I see a guy with, wearing a white turban, dressed up like an Arab.
	And I'm like, So it kind of was surprising for me, okay, that basically Alistair Crowley, and then of course I went through the degrees and I was initiated in the various degrees, so I learned this very strong connection with the Muslim world, basically includes two figures in his
	In his initiation rituals, which he had actually devised after the Freemason had said to the prior master of the O.T.O., Theodore Royce, that he needed to change them because they were too similar to the Masonic ones.
	So, they couldn't have Hiram Abiff.
	We know all about Hiram Abiff, you know, in Freemasonry, the guy who helps constructing the Temple of Solomon.
	No, they had to change.
	So, they had to find a similar figure.
	And Crowley found two figures that he included in his initiations.
	One was Saladin, that represents the Sejuq Turks, the Sunni world.
	The other one is a very incredible figure.
	For me, I mean, his tomb is in Baghdad.
	It's Mansur al-Halaj.
	Now, this guy is no ordinary Sufi.
	At the end he was brought, he was killed, beheaded, his head was given as a, it was actually, his head was claimed to be used together with the cross of Baphomet in secret rituals because it was considered holy.
	So, this is crazy because I always thought the Sufis were like, you know, the roomy poet and the lowly dervishes.
	They're all spiritual.
	But no, there's such a facade, right?
	That's a great facade.
	And in fact, in my book, I have a whole chapter where I demystify the Sufis by also my own personal experience, which I had, unfortunately, but also with their own practices.
	So Crowley, The Sufis in Paris invited me to come and speak when I first released my book, The Intuitive Warrior, many years ago, because I talk about love and the power of love and all that kind of stuff.
	They wanted me to come, so they were going to pray a year of peace and using the power of love, so that's interesting.
	So I met Sufi masters and all kind of crazy stuff.
	I must say, to be honest, there's probably a good side just like everything, you know.
	There's a facade and that people that really believe in it.
	And then there's behind the scenes.
	Like we know, a lot of this stuff is basically behind the scenes stuff that really runs the whole show.
	Absolutely.
	You are completely right.
	There is those people who, like I said, like the one we showed before, Gabriele Mandel-Kahn, he was a splendid guy.
	I mean, he died up until his death.
	He was a guy that I considered a friend, even in the difficult moments of my life.
	He was there.
	He was playing with his group of Sufis for me.
	He was a very nice guy.
	But then I also experienced other kinds of Sufis that were Really dark, really dark.
	So, like we said before, organized religion, it's almost always corrupted in any way, shape or form.
	And unfortunately, but there is people who have an honest connection with God.
	And even in these organizations, I found some of these people.
	I must say, you know, otherwise I would be, I would say something that is not accurate.
	And I want to be accurate.
	That's why I wrote this in my book.
	I said, you know, I found Muslims who their heart was pure, who they were really.
	But like I said, the Crowley was inspired by this confraternity of Sidi Aizawa and that still celebrates between Egypt, Morocco, you know, It's legendary, this guy.
	So Crowley himself was already initiated in that context.
	He wanted to be, he actually, his biggest dream was to go to Mecca.
	He wanted to do what somebody else had done before him in the English world.
	Wilfred Scaven Blount is a guy who today, Not many people, maybe, but he's a very interesting guy, because he was involved with the British military intelligence, he controlled Jemaledin al-Afghani, he travelled enormously, and at one point we can say that
	He was probably amongst the Masonic network, one of the most influential.
	And in fact, on behalf of the British Crown, he had infiltrated and corrupted the Sanusi Brotherhood, which is another Muslim political religious Sufi order from Libya.
	And this, you see, Crowley was inspired by other people.
	People don't consider that.
	I think that Crowley just woke up one morning and started doing things.
	Crowley was inspired by people in the Theosophical Society in particular.
	And the Theosophical Society had a very big connection with Egypt because Madame Blavatsky, just prior to the foundation of the Theosophical Society, had been smoking copious amounts of ash in Egypt and getting introduced into the use of ashish, which she carried for the whole course of her life while she was Writing all those books.
	But there is a figure here.
	Let me see if I managed to find the photo, because this might be very interesting.
	While you're doing that, everybody, myself included, is like, what?
	What?
	What?
	And you're just like, boom.
	And I was like, don't try and focus on anything, because you're dumping so much information so fast.
	No.
	But you had mentioned this secret group.
	On the Nile, that basically had the eye of Nefertiti?
	The Brotherhood of Luxor, yeah.
	You mean like the one that was taken out of statues?
	Yeah.
	You see, when that statue, which is now, I think, kept in Germany, was basically found, they offered an enormous amount of money to find this lost eye, but they never found it.
	When they came to me.
	That's one of the most famous statues in the world.
	How about that?
	Yeah.
	And these people keep it in a suitcase and their friends.
	Show it around to their friends.
	Yeah.
	That's where you are?
	Oh my God.
	Let me show you this image here because this is another important image.
	This is another guy who inspired very much Alistair Crowley.
	And if you see him here, he will look like just another, I don't want to insult anybody here.
	I want to be very respectful.
	It will look like a traditional Muslim on the way to Mecca.
	Okay?
	You see him?
	He wasn't a traditional Muslim on the way to Mecca.
	He was a British guy who pretended to be a Muslim, who managed to get into Mecca and became the first Freemason and Illuminati to get into Mecca.
	So this guy, the pilgrim illustration that I just showed you, is from Richard Francis Burton's personal narrative.
	This guy here, Bertrand was another important figure, also working for the British intelligence, who went around the world doing various things.
	Bertrand's wife, Isabel, also was a very close I mean, they were both very much connected, both with the British government, but also with secret societies operating in the Muslim world.
	And Alessio Crowley included, in fact, this guy, which I showed you, Sir Richard Francis Burton, amongst the Illuminati precursors of the O.T.O.
	in his manifesto of the O.T.O.
	Crowley wanted to be trained and got to be trained by an imam, by various Sufi teachers and stuff, so he could pass as a Muslim and eventually go to Mecca.
	He never made it.
	Remember this, that this guy that I showed you, Richard Francis Burton, risked his life to go to Mecca, because if you are discovered that you are not a Muslim and you are in Mecca, you are dead.
	It's not like going to the Vatican and not being Catholic.
	If you enter Mecca and you are not Muslim, you don't exit.
	So he was risking his life.
	He wanted to do that.
	He was kind of working around it, trying to convince people to carry him on a camel and maybe he would be wearing a tube.
	But people said, listen, man, you look way too British.
	You can't.
	You don't speak enough good Arabic to get away with it.
	They're going to kill you.
	And so at the end, Crowley gave up on this idea.
	Having said that, A lot of the work of Crowley and also the initiations that he worked on for his OTO are based on Islamic figures and at one point there is the initiation for the third degree of the OTO in which
	You are meant to commemorate Mansur Al-Alaj as his Hiram Abif, like we are all here to commemorate the death of Mansur Al-Alaj, you know, this is said within the initiation and everybody gathers around this tomb, you know, and so Crowley was definitely
	Fascinated, and he was fascinated very much by Burton, who apparently was the first Illuminati, but maybe not even the first to go to Mecca, because the very first Illuminati to go to Mecca was a member of my family, Giuseppe Balsamo, the Count of Cagliostro, the infamous Count Cagliostro that Orson Welles
	enacted in that film, the black and white film from the 19, I think, 30s or 40s, known as The Black Magician, based on the book by Dumas Padre.
	And Count Cagliostro was a Sicilian, was Giuseppe Balsamo from my, from part of, that's why I'm saying he's a member of my family, because his sister was an ancestor of mine.
	Giuseppe Balsamo was the Grand Master of the Illuminati.
	He was the guy who triggered the French Revolution.
	He was the one involved with the affair of the necklace in France.
	He was arrested.
	He was locked into the Bastille and when he was in the Bastille he said, All this will be transformed in a park one day.
	And he actually did that, because the revolution arrived, the king was killed, and everything went according to his plan.
	Then Napoleon tried to free him, but arrived too late.
	Napoleon, who had been initiated by him.
	And who had actually started all that exploration that gave us the Rosetta Stone to finally decode the Egyptian hieroglyphs.
	And all this was triggered also by Count Cagliostro, whose image is kept in Washington and was Very good friend of Benjamin Franklin from Loge de Nobsur, just so you know.
	We're not talking about some guy out of... He might have been from Palermo.
	He might have been an Italian.
	He might have been a little short Italian.
	But this guy went across the whole of Europe creating... In the end, the Vatican arrested him.
	And of course, he was kept there until his death in the castle of San Leo.
	So that's why I'm called Leo myself.
	So Count Cagliostro, who comes from the family of my grandmother from my father's side, he apparently in his youth, according to his own account, he lived as a child named Akarat in the palace of the Mufti Salayam in Medina.
	And thanks to the fact that he was, of course, brought up by the Muslims, and he conformed, at least outwardly, to the worship of Islam, he was let into Mecca.
	So maybe he was the first one before even the English guy that we just discussed.
	But there is this constant obsession with Islam in the Illuminati.
	Just for an example, Adam Bechart, when he created the Illuminati, he wanted all the Minervals To learn the Persian calendar with all the Persian names, which is basically modern Iran.
	He was obsessed with the Zoroastrians.
	and wanted to adapt some of the rituals of the Zoroastrians in the Illuminati but he never managed and he had to give up in the end like I explain in my book also with the idea of getting the Illuminati to understand Persian because the Germans of that time or the French the Illuminati initiates the Italians they couldn't really understand it and grasp it so they were like okay let's give up this idea because in the Illuminati you were taught that each month
	had a different name in Persian, and you had to adapt and understand.
	So this is also something that not many people know, but in my book I explained how I got also some great information regarding that, thanks to my fellow researcher, Joe Wages, who published The Rituals of the Illuminati for Luis Masonic, who also works for who published The Rituals of the Illuminati for Luis Masonic, who also works for Arturo de Hoyos at the
	So everything, as you know, in my book, and I'm thankful that you have guested me today, and of course we have only scratched the surface here.
	Yeah, wow.
	Because, like we said, Jamal Adina Lafghani, who brought...
	Well, that guy there brought the teachings of the Shia order of assassins into the Sunni world.
	Al-Qaeda and all the rest.
	Well, that guy there brought the teachings of the Shia order of assassins into the Sunni world.
	So you see, this is how from the Shia world, from the Nizari, from a schismatic sect that apparently secretly worshiped a cross with Muhammad, which is a complete heresy for the Muslim, From there, basically, we arrive to the Sunni and to the global jihad of the Salafi jihadists.
	So, it's obvious that there is Even Alistair Crowley, why did he include all these Islamic elements in his OTO, in his initiatory system, in his Illuminati?
	Because the Western Illuminati, the Western Freemasons, were always obsessed by Islam.
	And not only them, go a bit up a second, because I want to show you, if you go to chapter 5, I think that there is a couple of things.
	We went through the dark side of Sufism.
	We went through that.
	I think now we should focus before on another... How about this one right here?
	I'm curious about the 9-11 mega ritual.
	Okay, okay.
	If you want to just touch on that, maybe for the last little tease.
	No, because I think it's also very important that the foundation of the nation of Islam, of the Moorish science, and of what we have nowadays, like all these problems that we're having today with the black community, you know, We are talking about Muhammad Ali, Muhammad X. These are Muslims.
	But why are they Muslims?
	Why suddenly we have the birth of such a powerful indigenous Islamic community in America?
	This is something that people don't know.
	And I needed to explain this.
	That's why, yes, I understand that your question is also very important, but this is a very important question too, because when we are talking about the birth of the Moorish science and then later on of the Nation of Islam, we are talking about millions of people here in America that nowadays worship accordingly to the Nation of Islam, Moorish science and all that.
	And in reality, when we go and see how they were born, who was this noble Drew Ali, how basically the whole... It's important for me to just, before we go into the 9-11 thing, explain the black nationalism of Marcus Garvey and noble Drew Ali.
	Because today if we have a lot of problems in our nation, sorry, and I hope that actually Donald J. Trump in the Bronx has probably cleared up a lot of this problem with the black African community.
	It's because they are confused.
	They have been brought for a ride by people who claim some kind of Islamic connection that was never there.
	This noble Drew Arley, who founded the Morris Science Temple of America, and the black nationalist of Freemason Marco Garvey, they're all from Freemasonry.
	Freemasonry, okay, what happened, this in a nutshell, so I make it simple and then you can go on my book.
	Freemasonry became, like many confraternities and fraternities in the U.S., another way for segregation, for separation.
	And suddenly, we have two forms of Freemasonry developing in America.
	Principal Freemasons for the black people, for the African-American, and then, of course, the traditional one that was recognized by England, that was established in each state, and of course, George Washington, and all that.
	Here we have Prince Alfred Mason, born out of a former slave.
	And that being segregated, what happened here?
	That they created their own version of the Shriners.
	Their own version of the Shriners.
	The Shriners is basically a secret society that, as you know, inspired also a very funny Hollywood and Hardy movie, Sons of the Desert.
	When I was a kid, I used to watch.
	And the fans and everything.
	No, it seems all very funny.
	We see the Shriners, of course, doing a lot of charity work, which is very good.
	With the hospitals, with the children, parading as clowns.
	OK.
	That's what they do.
	They're funny.
	They have marchers.
	My dad was a Shriner.
	He, like, marched.
	I could tell you a thing about them.
	I was a lifeguard at the Shrine Club.
	And I kind of stepped in one time on one of the rituals and They didn't like that very much, but I couldn't tell you one thing about the Shriners at all.
	They're so secretive.
	At all.
	Nothing.
	And in my book, instead, I exposed some of this.
	I didn't want to expose too much, because my mentor, Julian Smith, was actually the head of the Shriners in Europe, in England, so I know very much.
	And the Shrine is Schmitt, in fact connected also to the Mormons, now they have this connection there, there is also a connection to Freemason.
	But in any case, the Shriners are born by that same trend that was going on back then in the Western Illuminati of taking things from the Islamic world and bringing them in their temples.
	So suddenly they created an order that could only be accessed if you were a 32 degree ancient and accepted Scottish Rite member.
	And in that order, you will find an Islamic way of interpreting the Masonic secrets and Freemasonry.
	And so you have the fez, you have, of course, the symbols, the names of the temples that all refer to Islam.
	But in the end this actually pissed off the Muslims in Mecca that at one point kicked them out of Mecca because they were claiming they were some kind of... they were, you know, being Muslim, you know, and they could... so they were kicked out.
	But from that, from the Two orders of the shrine, it was the black order, the African-American order of the shrine, has come all this Moorish science and then later on the nation of Islam.
	So you see, it's from that segregation of dividing people that unfortunately brought us after to a new Islamic current.
	And if we saw actually, if we go, like I show in my book, if we go and study Yes, they're based on Islam, but then they're also based on Rosicrucianism.
	They actually take a lot from the Rosicrucian and the initiatic world.
	So you see, all this, of course, creates confusion.
	And at the same time, it creates more anti-Semitism, because the Nation of Islam Or other groups like the Moorish Science and groups that sprang out of it became fiercely anti-Semitic.
	And that's a big problem.
	That's a really big problem.
	So here we have this continuous anti-Semitism that is reoccurring.
	Now, we were talking about 9-11, and that's why I wanted to introduce it by saying what I said.
	Because there is always this conspiracy theory about the Jews did it!
	The Mossad!
	And that's it.
	It's kind of blaming the Jews, blaming the Jews.
	And this book will basically finally make you understand that there is not only one group of people that you can blame, but definitely you can't blame the Jews at home for what happened on 9-11.
	Sure.
	You know, there is this myth of the dancing Jews, the dance stuff while the Twin Towers was going down.
	I explain this very accurately in my book.
	I explain how this is not an inside job.
	This is an inside out job.
	Meaning, it's an inside job because you have George W. Bush, of course, George H. Bush, that are completely involved with this whole thing.
	But then you have not only George W. Bush or George H. Bush involved with it, you have also the mercenaries, the new order of the assassins, Mohammed Atta and those people were working and operating just like the assassins of Hassan Nisaba.
	Where does Mohammed Atta come from?
	from Egypt.
	So we're back there, back in Cairo, with his father saying, "Oh, you know the father of Muhammad?" It's the Mossad!
	It's a little bit like when I went in Egypt in 2003, and it was the year after they had projected on TV a series dedicated to the protocols of the elders of Zion.
	And everybody was talking about conspiracies, because conspiracy theories are very popular in the Middle East.
	People might not know this, but the Middle Eastern people love a conspiracy, even more than us.
	But the problem is that they usually always blame only the Jews.
	So suddenly you have this occurring theme which is always to blame the Jews.
	Well guys, I explained in the last chapter of this book that the Jews are no saints, that there was of course a schism, the Sabbatean Frankist heresy.
	Sabbatei Zevi in 1666 converted to Islam, not to Christianity.
	And Shabbatai Zevi is the guy who had as a prophet another character, dubious character, known as Nathan of Gaza.
	And Gaza was the second most important fortress of the Knights Templars back in the days.
	There was the fortress on Temple Mount and there was a fortress in Gaza.
	And what is happening today with all the people being killed in Gaza happened At the time of the Knights Templars, when Saladin arrived with the Muslims and killed everybody that was out of the fortress of the Knights Templars.
	So, you know, people don't know...
	No, it's like, you know, there is these histories that come, you know, backwards and forwards.
	You have sometimes people on the wrong side doing, you know, people doing wrong things on one side and sometimes other people doing wrong things.
	I mean, the first crusade, the crusaders came in and slaughtered everybody inside of Jerusalem.
	So, yeah, it's a back and forth mess.
	Back and forth mess is a never-ending cycle of hate.
	And that's why with this book, I really hope to put clarity, a clarity that can, of course, this book will make people realize that if you are Christian, you are no saint.
	If you're Muslim, you are no saint.
	If you're Jew, you are no saint.
	And at that point, You have to all confront your own sins, your own enemies within your own culture.
	The fact that the Muslims never talk about their own Freemasons like Jamal al-Din al-Afghani and many others means that they don't want to confront the truth.
	That's what I found when I was in Egypt.
	I found people that were blaming, oh yes, the American Freemason, the great Satan Bush.
	Of course, great Satan Bush, but Bush who?
	Who was George W. Bush who said that Islam was a religion of peace after 9-11?
	Who was Bush hanging around with a few months after?
	With Prince Bandar.
	Prince Bandar went to Texas to visit him.
	Prince Bandar is the guy who founded ISIS later on.
	I mean, guys!
	And not only that, you know, and Muammar, sorry, Obama, I call him Muammar.
	Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, before going to deliver that bullshit talk in Cairo, he went also to visit the Saudi Prince, you know?
	Yeah, well, you know, Brad Alton says that Osama, I want to say him too, Obama, thank you, is a descendant of Adolf Hitler.
	He even has a family tree, he takes a family tree back.
	That is an interesting point, when you think that in my book I show how Adolf Hitler was actually became inspired to do the Holocaust by who?
	By the uncle of Yasser Arafat.
	Today everybody says the Palestinian cause, the Palestinian cause, wear the scarf typical of the Palestinian cause, but nobody realizes that if the Jews are pissed off, there is a reason There is a guy who was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and I showed the photos but you can find them easily on the internet, meeting with Adolf Hitler and inspiring the Holocaust!
	Wow!
	So, can they be pissed off after having killed a few million Jews?
	Yeah, I got alerted to it when I was in Yemen and I saw swastikas hung out of the walls everywhere in Yemen.
	And then I started doing the research and, you know, Hitler had lots of Muslim brigades of, you know... Yeah, in fact, some of them were organized by Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, who was Arafat's Nazi uncle, who was basically he worked for the Brits because they were all working for the Brits at one point or another, like Jamal Adin al-Afghani.
	He was working with a guy who learned from a disciple of al-Afghani, al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Let's not forget that all these things are connected.
	So, Al-Banna was connected with Amin al-Husseini.
	Al-Husseini basically was so vicious, he was wanted for war crimes even in Yugoslavia, just so you know.
	And when he was Hunted down by the Brits, he went under the protection of Mussolini and Hitler and he started to broadcast his vicious propaganda from Italy and from Germany.
	So this is facts.
	This is history.
	It's not some kind of massive conspiracy theory.
	It's just the facts.
	So there is nobody that can claim moral or ethic superiority.
	You can't even say, oh, but we have the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Alaska Mosque is the most holy place after Mecca and Medina, and we basically need to preserve it because this represents Islam.
	Hey guys, the Alaska Mosque, like I explain in my book, came into existence after the death, five years after the death of Muhammad, they created their bullshit narrative, they inserted in the Quran the fact that suddenly Muhammad had flown with a winged creature in the night to Jerusalem and there he went and ascended to heaven.
	Guys, let's be a little bit realistic here.
	Right.
	Let's not bullshit ourselves.
	So my book is about realism.
	That's why this book is number one in Islamic social sciences, Islamic history, history of Islam at the moment also going very well, and Muslims are still not saying anything.
	I challenge you Muslims from all the various schools of Islam to come to my door and see where I got it wrong here, because there is over 700 footnotes, citations and everything.
	Accuracy.
	That is how it works, you know?
	So I hope that people understand the importance of a book like this, because it's meant not to insult you as a Muslim, you as a Christian, you as a Jew.
	It's meant to make us understand.
	We all are sinners.
	And nobody can cast the stone because, like Jesus said, who's going to cast the stone?
	Who has this moral ethics superiority here?
	These guys have just made an alliance in early 2019 with the Imam of Al-Azhar in Cairo, signed in Dubai, wherever, they signed their human fraternity deal.
	And the Pope now, after establishing in 2020, in the middle of the pandemic, his Fratelli Tutti encyclical for the basis of the One World Religion, he then went to also establish a deal with the Shiite Muslims in the former city of Ur in Iraq.
	Basically, imagine this.
	Nobody was moving.
	The whole world was under the pandemic.
	The Pope suddenly goes to Iraq.
	I mean, people maybe need to wake up a little bit to what is happening, because the Jesuits are also very insidious, and they are also very much connected with Islam, as I show in my book, for various reasons.
	I hope that this has cleared a lot for you and going back to 9-11.
	It cleared a lot that I didn't even know about, but it's also opened a lot of, you know, rabbit holes that I need to jump down and explore.
	So it's pretty amazing.
	Outstanding.
	And as all your work, it's just an incredible gift to humanity, you know, all the work you do.
	One thing, for research, I also challenge Muslim historians to go do the research on this and help expand this information.
	I mean, that would be incredible.
	Muslim, but also Christian historians, because when it comes to the roots of the nation.
	The tie-ins, the Jewish tie-in.
	I mean, all the roots are tied together.
	Let me show you one thing.
	This is a book by General Domenico Libertini.
	He's a general of the Italian Carabinieri who has also worked in special operations abroad.
	It's a book about knighthoods.
	It's not a book about... It's all about knighthoods.
	And it's very detailed.
	And of course, this guy is a... I mean, he's a serious guy.
	He's been awarded, you know, even a title in Italy by the Republic of Italy and all that.
	It's no joke, this guy.
	He's an expert of the intelligence, military intelligence.
	He actually has delivered various conferences on military intelligence reform in Italy.
	Well, this guy explains how the rebut of the Muslims inspired the The future crusaders and the knighthoods in Europe.
	I mean, I don't take my information from sources that are not serious.
	These are serious people who went to military school, who went to important universities and their academic sources.
	And for that reason, I think that it's going to be almost impossible to debunk anything in this book.
	But also, it's about bringing peace.
	Peace is something that we can't bring with people confused in a university that shout from the river to the sea or other bullshit without even ever having been in the Middle East or any other Muslim country.
	So it's also about the direct experience that you have, you know, because I tend to see that sometimes the academic approach tends to be too elitarian, too, no?
	So we are trying to, and people like you who have had direct experience, tend to be more immediate and also more credible.
	Because sometimes these academics, they get lost in their bullshit.
	And in fact, the product of the universities is now these idiots who are spotting, imagine this, A few days ago, one of the heads of Hamas, and I published an article about this on lielzegami.com, has thanked the students of the American universities.
	Guys, the students of the American universities are sponsored by George Soros, Rockefeller, and these people.
	So shouldn't this make you understand?
	Or when, for example, they are trying to stop the entrance in Rafah because they don't want the elimination of the Hamas jihadists.
	Of course they don't want the total elimination of the Hamas jihadists, like they don't want the total elimination of ISIS or Al-Qaeda, because they, NATO, is using these jihadists for their own dirty games and for their military industrial complex bullshit.
	That is the truth.
	And that's why at one point Trump said, okay, I'm going to eliminate the Islamic State.
	This is getting out of control.
	Obama is the father of ISIS.
	This is a citation from President Donald J. Trump.
	It's not me.
	Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Clinton, McCain, the neocons, because we have also big problems with neocons.
	These people basically have ruined the world.
	And we need to put clarity and we need to put sense in people.
	I mean, what happened on 9-11 was a mega ritual to generate hate, to generate a massive amount of hate.
	And it gave birth to an egregore of hate, of confusion.
	And then from there on, they were legitimized to send Our own soldiers, and here I'm talking as an American because I'm an American since March.
	I'm glad to be finally an American.
	They send their soldiers to die in idiotic wars that have nothing to do with what happened here on 9-11.
	They found some Italian corrupt idiot in the intelligence to provide fake stuff that could prove that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
	Bullshit!
	And how many thousands of people died because of this?
	Hundreds of thousands, yeah.
	How many people in our daily lives we see left on the side of the street without legs, without arms?
	Why?
	That's why we arrived to the moment in which we have to wake up.
	And that is the powerful message of this book, is to finally wake up to the truth of this manipulation, The Knights Templar of yesterday, who made that alliance with the Assassins of yesterday, are the same Knights Templars in the Freemasons, like George H. Bush, or the Skull and Bones member, George W. Bush, who gave birth to this new American century of rubbish, whatever they had in mind.
	It's important to understand all this, because a lot of people have lost their lives.
	And the neocons should never, ever, ever again have any seat of power in Washington.
	Unfortunately, that's not the case.
	That's not the case.
	We still have this Mitch McConnell, man.
	Mitch McConnell.
	I mean, I see this guy, I just go crazy.
	I mean, get him out of the picture.
	How is it possible that still today we have these people?
	Nikki Haley, that piece of scum, who now said, I will vote for Trump.
	After she got millions from Trump's enemies, after she was promised a very good position in the military industrial complex, one of these companies, no?
	That of course furnished the military industrial complex with weapons and stuff.
	Like Lockheed Martin?
	She's going to be made a goddess of Lockheed Martin?
	I mean, I want to be clear here.
	We have to bring clarity to people in order to bring peace.
	And we're not really on the right path at the moment.
	When we say, for example, that Israel Doesn't have the right to exist.
	We have to understand, Israel was born because of the compromises that were made by certain people that kicked out of their countries and persecuted the Jews in every single country in Europe.
	And then these people didn't have anywhere anymore to go.
	And suddenly the Sabbatean Frankists, the ones that were on top within even the Jewish community, they said, Well, you can go back to Israel.
	The first guy who actually invited people back to Israel was Sabbatai Zevi with Nathan of Gaza, by the way, and who said, go back to Israel, go back to Israel.
	But when we see the history of Zionists, that is another big problem, because the history of Zionists makes us understand all the compromises that unfortunately were done And one of the countries that is to blame at the moment is not Israel, it's not America, but it's Great Britain.
	Because they created a big mess when they got eventually the Ottoman Empire to collapse.
	And then after that, the collapse of the Ottoman Empire created that instability.
	There was that occupied area which they called Palestine.
	And then eventually they, with the declaration of Barfur, they invited the Jews to go back there.
	Go there, go there.
	We don't want you.
	Just go there.
	So, I mean, do you think that's fair for the people who are there now living and residing in Israel to tell them that they don't have to be in Israel anymore?
	Is it fair for the people of Palestine to continue with the bullshit keeping on being the mercenaries of this new world disorder?
	Because this is what they are.
	They should all wake up and say, no, we need to reflect, we need to have more diplomatic efforts going on.
	But there's no more diplomacy going on.
	Diplomacy was orchestrated by a great Sabbatean Francis called Harry Kissinger, who for many years controlled the Middle East and played all the various factions against each other in his game.
	But now we are in a moment in which they don't even bother anymore to do any diplomatic act, just like they don't do any real diplomacy with Russia.
	Russia also has an important role in this book, because it was from Russia that the protocols of the Eddas of Zion first came to light, and then from Russia they expanded into Germany, that unfortunately is spying also Adolf Hitler in his main camp, and his hate for the Jews that generated the Holocaust.
	And at the same time, in 1925, there was a Maronite priest that published for the first time in the Middle East, and then suddenly The Protocols of the Elders of Zion now is a bestseller in the Middle East and is cited in the Manifesto of Hamas of 1988.
	Wow.
	It's all hate.
	Pure hate and ignorance.
	So I hope that today we have cleared all these points.
	At least we have attempted.
	I ask for your forgiveness.
	That's amazing.
	Your breadth is just incredible.
	Of course, you've had a lot of insights in the background.
	You have been exposed to some very, very amazing people, as you keep alluding to, so very, very amazing.
	So, Leo, thanks so much for coming on.
	I would love to stay and talk to you for two more hours, but I have another show coming up.
	I also have another show coming up, so I'm really glad To be able to talk with your audience today because I know that this kind of information and God bless you all.
	And hopefully after you read this book, you will have maybe more questions for me.
	Very good.
	Thank you.

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