BIRD FLU AN EXCUSE TO SACRIFICE CHICKENS AND CATTLE FOR SATAN
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*Music* Well, hello everybody!
Welcome to Aquarius Rising Africa and awesome to have with me again Leo Zagora!
And it's a bit later than our usual time slot, and I think we're also a week later than usual.
But really good to have you, Leo.
How are you?
Still the morning time for me, so I'm a bit later for you, but still the morning for me.
I'm still having breakfast and getting up, so to speak.
Maybe a little bit later than usual.
For me, it's really good timing.
So it's a pleasure to be with you and with your audience this month.
I'm celebrating my first few weeks as an American citizen, which is something I finally managed.
Me and my wife were so happy for this result on the 12th of March.
was finally given this possibility to take the oath of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
And for somebody like me, who, as you know, didn't really have a country for the last few years, it's a great achievement.
And plus, I still believe that America's constitution and what we represent is definitely extraordinary.
There is, of course, a lot of problems because it's a nation under attack.
By the enemies, of course, who are trying to achieve this new world order or disorder, depending on the points of view.
And so I'm really glad that my wife really made this possible with their persistence, also with me working without really a lawyer the last few months because the lawyers were asking incredible Some stuff we couldn't really afford.
I mean, we spent a lot of money initially for the green card, but we didn't want to give all this money because it was simply something that we thought we could do on our own.
I mean, I'm quite good with books and my wife and me work out all these really elaborated books.
So we didn't see the difficulty in getting something like the Americas.
And we managed, we managed.
Well, congratulations are in order for that, so congratulations!
I was actually kept longer than usual during the interview because one of the questions that they gave to me was my connection to the British Royal Family and all my aristocratic background.
It seems like there was almost a, you know, because America has been founded in 1776 as a reaction to the, of course, what was the higher taxation imposed by Great Britain, but also what was happening with the monarchies what was the higher taxation imposed by Great Britain, but also what was Maybe they didn't like me as an aristocrat, so they wanted to make sure I wasn't inheriting any important title that could backlash in the future.
That was the only weird element to it, but in any case, I finally made it and here I am.
Making sure you can't fall back on your titles.
Yeah, no, no, no.
But I mean, I said that like in Italy, where I was born, aristocracy and the monarchy was basically Put out with a poll that was taken in June 1946 that transformed Italy from what used to be a monarchy into a republic.
Not that that benefited the Italian people because it was basically a republic like it is now made of Freemasons and Mafiosi who are criminals who forced me in the end to leave that country because I was denouncing and exposing Their criminal activities.
But having said that, this is one of the main points here.
The First Amendment, the possibility that really we have here to be free in what we are saying, freedom of expression, freedom of religion.
This is very important.
And I think that we are a unique nation regarding that.
I see that these days in Europe, more and more, they are trying to silence any voice of dissent, especially when it comes to this ongoing war with Russia, the Russian military operation, as the Russians call it, in Ukraine.
constant threat, which also is made up of us giving weapons to this crook called Zelensky to continue this never-ending war, which I think should just be terminated by which I think should just be terminated by giving the Russians the Donbass and Crimea.
And then, of course, Ukraine can be left joining Europe.
What is left of Ukraine?
Because that is at the moment what they have anyway.
And if they continue in this never-ending war, they're not going to have any more population, male population, to fight this war.
Because that's one of the things that is happening more these days is that the They're ending this never-ending possibility of bringing, you know, the Ukrainian male population is basically getting extinguished.
And so they're bringing in foreign fighters, which means what France has recently said to have at least 2,000 soldiers on the ground.
But that is really the beginning probably of a lot more European soldiers, at the moment professional soldiers, they are not constricted in any way, they are not forced into fighting there, fortunately.
But the fact that already a couple of weeks ago we had Italian planes, actually not even a couple of weeks ago, Maybe less than a week ago, a week ago, we had two Italian planes that were directly involved with the Russian jets on the Baltic Sea.
This makes us understand the tension that is building up.
And I profoundly hate Stoltenberg, who is the Secretary General of NATO, because he was the guy who accused me of espionage when I was back in Norway and he was Prime Minister.
So I have an open thing with him.
I could never stand the guy.
And now he's Secretary General of NATO.
We still continue being what I think it's a criminal activity on his side to encourage this war without encouraging any peace negotiations.
And then we have at the same time the threat of a new pandemic here in the US, the possibility of a civil war, which is paraded with also a new Hollywood movie.
And on top of that, once again, my books are prophetic, because Volume 8, which has shown really the satanic side of the Hollywood music and entertainment industry, cinema world, has demonstrated to be rather prophetic, also in the case of this latest Didi, a guy who is involved in a scandal very similar to Jeffrey Epstein.
So we have the possibility, of course, that if Trump comes to power, which I hope very soon, he can maybe fix things.
But at the same time, we have the threat of at least three things, which are Like I said, the bear flu pandemic, the possible civil war, and of course then an extension of the war in Ukraine into uncharted territory, transforming the whole of Europe in a war zone, and at the same time what is happening in the Middle East, which is not looking very good.
So we have a lot to talk about today, and I welcome all the people who are tuning in.
I see there are very numerous, as usual, Yeah, everyone's popping in and saying hi, so great to have you all in the chats.
You've got your fan club, yeah, that's for sure.
And I love that you're an American now, Leo.
Well, absolutely.
I mean, I love also the fact that I'm American because, like I say, it gives me the possibility to also talk more openly, take a direct, you know, a direct say also in the political discourse, as I will be voting for the first time this year.
And this year will be also the most important election of all times here in America.
So, I mean, I'm going to cast a simple, miserable one vote but at least it's going to help out Donald J. Trump as well as the vote of my wife because we are really supporting Trump and I don't really understand The people who still have some doubts.
I mean, he's not a saint, he's not a perfect politician, but he was never really a politician.
And I don't really like politicians to start with, because I think they always compromise way too much.
They say that Trump does it for his own personal gains, but I think he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.
After the first presidency, he could have just tranquilly faded away into oblivion and kept all his assets and they will have probably never brought him in front of a judge.
Now it's like a never-ending story with all these court cases that are pining up on him.
Yeah, Trump is a businessman and I think from an outsider looking in, he's taken America and he's looking at it as a business, which I think is a good thing because if there's one thing I know about Trump, He loves America infinitely, you know?
He really does love America and he does want to make America great again, as he always says.
I do believe that about him.
Absolutely.
But now we have also, in three days, the uncertainty.
Everybody's talking about the eclipse, the possibility that something terrible will manifest.
I hope not, personally.
I hope everything is fine.
What's your take on the eclipse, by the way?
I mean, there's a lot of interesting talk about the eclipse.
So what's your take on, what is it, about two days?
Is it Sunday?
What is the day today?
5th or the 6th?
Well, one thing I noticed, I mean, of course, I'm 54 years of age, I saw a few eclipses during my lifetime.
What I noticed, though, regarding this specific one, there's a lot of alarmism.
It's like, you know, all this alarm is given by the authorities.
They are warning the FDA.
They're warning basically every possible institution imaginable.
And we don't know why.
I mean, what's so incredible about this whole thing?
I mean, of course, we are, regarding the FDA and so what we are eating, the whole bird flu pandemic that is coming together with the transmission of the virus to the cow and the possibility it jumps into humans and finally manifests in a new global pandemic.
Well, that is definitely something.
It's called a pandemic.
I mean, I can't even hear that word pandemic because it's such a lie.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.
But yeah, I agree with you, you know.
And yeah, I agree.
I agree in terms of it's just, yeah.
No, the thing is that there is a lot of alarmism.
And I think that it's like really weird that they are trying to push chaos on every possible level.
I'm talking from the border here, which is becoming, of course, an invasion.
Now, when we were talking in private before we started the show, I told you, I mean, there's so many people just come through and get their everything, their green card.
Now, maybe with Biden wanting to give because all these people are simply judged as, you know, possible voters for the Democratic Party, not as human beings that come here to enlarge the great American family and maybe give not as human beings that come here to enlarge the great American family and maybe give something to this great No, they are judged as simply votes that go to the Democratic Party.
And this is insane.
And it kind of like brings me back to the 80s, the early 80s, when I was going with my father one day and he told me, I was in the car and you know, we used to have a lot of Polish people arriving from Poland after the election of the Pope.
John Paul II, suddenly we had for the first time a non-Italian Pope and also a Polish Pope.
And so the Polish people were still under the control, the oppression of the Soviet Union started to flood Italy and arrived.
And I remember that they asked, you know, they were what they used to do.
They didn't really have a job, many jobs.
So one of the things they would do is to stop people at the lights and just clean the windows of their car or things like that.
And I said to my father, why are these people, why are they letting them in?
Why is this?
And the actual answer was that my father gave me was that they were simply future votes for the party that was at the time in charge in Italy.
So that's why they let them in.
And I was like, just Shocked about, you know, the possibility of something like this happening, but it's been happening ever since.
And now it's happening here in America, increasing numbers.
And we are talking millions here.
Millions that since the Biden administration is in power have been taking simply
The possibility of coming in this country without having anything, and then at times ending up in big cities like New York, in groups that practice criminality of all sorts, because they go and enrich the gangs of America, but also the gangs of Central America that expand over here, their businesses, they're really criminal.
And they are tagged with no ethics, no morals, So Mexico just lets them pass.
And Mexico is another shitty country in the hands of thugs and criminals.
Unfortunately, that's what I mean.
The problem here is why are these countries so underdeveloped?
And then we go and study their history, no?
And what is that accumulates all these countries?
The Catholic Church, the Jesuits.
It's not like, I mean, that's how it is.
And the NGOs who are actually bringing them here, who are facilitating this invasion, most of the times are Catholic and they do it to enrich their church.
I think that is really a bad thing.
I mean, America was born, in a way, out of an experiment though that separated really Church from state in a very strict manner.
And that gave the possibility to this country to develop and to become the most powerful country in the world.
Nowadays we have this attempt to weaken this country from corrupt leaders, from people who arrive in Washington instead of representing their own people, they're representing China, they're representing other Russia or foreign interests.
And they have no interest in protecting the American borders.
It's sad, but that's how it is.
I think that is the weakness, really, unfortunately, of democracy these days.
Because you can give the power to everybody.
Everybody is the same.
And you can achieve the possibility of getting to Washington if you're smart enough.
But you have to also find the money to elect to Washington, because these days without millions, you cannot even go close to an electoral campaign of sorts.
So already that restricts you.
And who is giving you this money?
And that becomes, you know, a little bit like our show.
If we had the sponsorship here of Coca-Cola, we would be a completely different kind of show here.
We would not be allowed to say, probably, Nothing compared to what we're saying now.
We will get probably very rich, but you know, but then we will have no soul, a little bit like CNN.
Right, exactly.
Exactly.
And I think you said something very significant earlier on.
It's about the creation of chaos, because without chaos, they don't have power.
The minute people are in chaos, I mean, just energetically, they feed off that chaos, because that destabilizes the country, destabilizes the individual, it destabilizes communities, and that obviously divides and conquers, right?
Sorry, divides.
And when a community or a country is divided, It's much easily, much more easily conquerable.
So I think this is exactly the big thing, is to create the chaos.
To create the chaos, like somebody's suggesting here in the chat, to keep a low vibration, to not let people really understand what is going on, to continuously stress them with the news that comes from the media, that is not nice news, of course.
They're not giving us Some encouraging news when they're saying that basically this new pandemic could be, I don't know, a hundred times worse than COVID.
I mean, what is that?
An encouragement.
We should clap to the media who gave up.
Honestly, you know, Leo, for me, it's like, who even buys this bullshit anymore?
Who even actually thinks it's real?
You know, it's like, Have we learned nothing from this pandemic that is taking place, what, two years ago or four years ago, whatever it was now?
It was exactly four years ago when we started to receive the alarming news and things were starting to shut down and everybody was forced into wearing the nappies on their face and things like that.
I mean, It's it's that that is the problem here.
We are after four years still not realizing the gravity of what went on back then.
I mean, personally, I'm very glad that I was here because The Americans complain very much about what went on, but it's nothing compared to what went on in Italy that was like worse than North Korea.
Italy was one of the first countries, right?
And I mean, I remember Italy... Everything was locked up, the military in the streets, the things.
I mean, you had to write down where you went.
You could only go out if you had a dog that you had to bring.
I mean, it was just insane.
what was happening and what happened to that country.
It made me really hate the fact that I was ever born in Italy.
And it's sad.
I mean, still to this day, the Italians don't even want to know the origin of this whole thing.
Like, I mean, why?
Why should we not inquire a little bit more?
But that's what is happening here.
Everything is kept secret.
Now, like I said, there is this alarmism going around.
Bad flu has been found also in hands in Michigan.
It has been found in cows in Texas infected by it.
People start inquiring, is milk safe?
What is happening here though, Chantal, is very important because it goes along with what I've written in Volume 9 of my confessions when I talk about the Codex Alimentarius.
They are trying to push insects, they're trying to push bio-produced, lab-produced, food, meat produced in lab.
I mean, all these monstrosities can only be accepted by the people in a situation where we are no longer given the possibility to eat normal cattle or normal chickens or normal.
That's why I think it's quite alarming that this not because of the.
So much of the pandemic that will lock us again in, because I think people are smarter than that.
But if they start Killing millions of cattle around the U.S.
or chickens or other forms of meat that we regularly buy at the supermarket, we will be forced into buying the rubbish that will be grown up in the labs of Bill Gates and company.
Exactly.
And this is exactly what I was saying.
This to me, you know, when you're looking at, I mean, these poor animals are always being blamed for everything.
And, you know, in my opinion, they've probably injected or maybe even not injected certain animals with this, with some horrific virus and calling it bird flu and stuff like that.
Exterminating millions of cattle, birds, sheep, whatever it is that's now got this virus apparently.
But it's really their way of gaining control.
And again, they do so through fear.
And as you say, it's to say, OK, well, now all meat is unsafe.
So now we've got to eat scorpions and crickets and bugs and things like that.
This is part of that.
And I mean, this is why I say when we realize what they're doing, We actually, you know, they don't have that power.
They don't have the control over us.
We really need to wake up.
And I wanted to actually ask you, you know, when you said early on about the Italian people.
Who are so locked up.
I remember seeing on social media at the time, the Italians were the first that was locked up and locked.
And I mean, I remember there was a lot of beautiful spirit between them, you know, guys sitting on their balconies playing and singing and carrying on.
So there was a lot of good spirit between.
It was a lot of, you know, they were trying to make people feel better, but there was a lot of propaganda also, you know, like people singing off the roofs of their homes or in Opening the window and it was all very picturesque in a way.
Yes.
The reality of it was very sad because they were not able to go out of their homes.
And I mean, we had a total lockdown here in California.
I remember one point in California is the most close to the European set up, let's say here in the Americas.
But the lockdown that we have because of Gavin Newsom, who himself didn't respect the lockup and, as we know, went to eat with his friends, not wearing any, in a nice fancy dress and all that.
But the reality was that nobody was respecting it.
I had people going around.
No cars were, you know, I mean, it wasn't like in Italy where you couldn't hear one car moving and only ambulances.
Yeah, it was pretty much OK.
I mean, Two or three days of the total lockdown, I was still going around.
Nobody was listening to what Newsom was saying.
So, this is what America is all about.
It's about, at times, individualism and, of course, living the American dream.
But if they start imposing you things that are out of the constitutional norm, well, people then, at that point, just don't respect this BS anymore.
And they act like they won't.
And that is what happened.
Of course, then you had the strict mandates on wearing masks and all that bullshit, which was also very annoying, especially in California.
But then there was this whole thing about the passport, the vaccine passport, no?
In Europe, they started to really implement it following the South Korean digital model and whatever.
And so in the end, everything was done with the QR code and you couldn't really escape it.
Here in America, most of the people I knew, they were going around with fake vaccine passports that were just printed out of a copyright machine.
You know, it was just very simple to do it.
Exactly.
I mean, I never did it because I never wanted to, of course, go anywhere during this pandemic or break the law, because, of course, I wasn't even an American citizen.
So it was far from my idea to do that.
But I saw a lot of people who did it.
And I think they could get away with it simply because in America, the vaccine passport was simply a piece of paper.
It wasn't a QR code.
It wasn't all digitally connected to the cyber Satan data system, which was instead in Europe and places like Italy.
And nowadays they are actually keeping that vaccine.
They call it green card, vaccine card, whatever.
They are keeping it because it was only the first stage to then Manifest their next plan, which is to control everybody even further by knowing all their data and by then implementing what we have in China, which is a credit score system.
So it's scandalous and it's monstrous what they're doing in Europe, those technocrats in Brussels.
But if the Europeans let them do it, well, they deserve what they get.
You see, People have to understand that if you want to have a great country, you have to fight for it.
And to fight for it, at times, you have to do what they did in 1776, which wasn't really, it wasn't, people imagine the American, you know, the American declaring independence as a, you know, okay, they declare independence, fine, everything is fine.
No, it was the start of a cruel war against their oppressors that lasted a long time.
It wasn't just ended in a few days.
The war with Great Britain and with the evil monarch lasted a long, long time.
And in the end, they had to fight.
And if you want to fight for your freedom, you have to fight.
There's no other way.
They might be, you know, they say, oh, but Gandhi did it peacefully.
And Gandhi is somebody, you know, of course, because I mean, the South Africans know because he was also passing through South Africa at one point of his life.
But Gandhi was simply a show.
It was a Masonic show, himself connected to the Theosophical Society, to the Freemasons.
He was himself a show.
A puppet.
I mean, a puppet.
Of course, he might have had good intentions, he might have been a good human being in his philosophy of life, but once he was used For his project, for the project of doing what they did with India, he was, of course, immediately killed and disposed because that's how it works.
So, yeah.
I mean, to believe that you can achieve things in a peaceful Gandhi way, well, then you don't know really how it works and how the Illuminati and the Freemasons And of course, the global powers operate when it comes down to these kind of things.
Yeah, I fully agree.
You know, we it's it's it's.
I agree there has to be a balance of everything.
Right.
There has to be a certain element of trust.
We have to believe, you know, we have to have faith.
It's got to be faith over fear, but it doesn't end there.
We have to take action.
And, you know, the action is, you know, we've got to walk in the same direction.
I always say link arms.
Be in alignment and we've got to stand up together when it comes to absolutely not allowing ourselves.
We don't have to feed in the lies of the media.
The ideology that is pushed by the social media, because we are now, for example, broadcasting on a platform where some of the things we just said, if they were said two or three years ago, we will have been automatically banned after two seconds.
The algorithms were kind of...
You know, you could mention certain words and you will immediately get out.
Fake this, fake that.
So this is unfortunate, but it's true.
The fact that we are under censorship, under censorship, and we are still under the threat of a presidency, the Biden presidency, which wants to renew itself and which will probably mean The loss of most of our rights.
I mean, I see increasingly here in the mainstream media, the leftist mainstream media, even yesterday evening when I was watching the news.
Oh, but you know, because of the First Amendment, they can do this.
And we should discuss.
What do you want to discuss?
You want to discuss the First Amendment?
Then at that point, you're no longer going to have a constitution that is credible and the United States of America will no longer be the country that it is.
But these people are against the First Amendment.
They're against the Second Amendment.
Another thing that is very unfortunate is the fact that we have some crazy lunatics every now and then that shoot people around.
Most of the times they get their guns illegally, at times even legally.
But the thing that is obvious here is that they let them arrive to the point of doing those mass shootings.
Explain that, also in Volume 8 of My Confessions, which is, as you know, based on the entertainment world.
When you have the entertainment world feeding all this violence, all these video games that are made up of violence, that is unprecedented in the history of America, well, then the results are violence.
You are getting what you are basically laying the seeds for, and it's terrible to see that.
Programming, that's absolute programming.
Programming, social programming, mass social programming, that definitely it's a mind control operation.
So then this crisis continues to feed also into this very poor It was thanks to the Republican Party that we got out of slavery here in America.
their own votes out of ignorance of the ignorance of the people it's a little bit like everybody knows if you are into history that it was thanks to the Republican Party that really we got out of slavery here in America it wasn't something that it was due to the Democratic Party
it's traditionally the party of the KKK of the slave owners And suddenly they are instead the party that gives us all this freedom.
And Barack Obama, who is the first black president, I think that people need to understand that we have seen these clowns, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Joe Biden.
You see, when they came together for that event in New York, $500,000 a ticket for these very rich elite people who were saying, you know, we have to protect the people.
We are doing it for the people.
No, they're not doing it for the people.
And when they say that Trump is doing it for his own business, for his own business, well, he was working before he was doing the president.
I never had Barack Hussein Obama doing anything else than being a politician.
Apart from being maybe a lawyer.
Maybe.
Was he even an agent?
A C.A.O.
Yeah, exactly.
Nowadays, with all the money he makes with Netflix and so on, he can preach to the people, you know, we need to protect this country, we need to vote for Joe Biden.
I mean, it's incredible what's happening here.
Speaking of voting, what do you think?
I mean, I think there's a lot of speculation.
I mean, this year is certainly already a crazy year.
I mean, there's a lot happening in this year.
There's a lot of speculation as to whether the election will actually take place this year because of the craziness that's going on.
So what's your take?
Do you feel like The election will take place.
The elections will take place in America.
Do you think they'll go ahead?
Well, I personally hope so, because it's the first time I'm going to vote.
So here in America is the first opportunity that I have to vote in America.
So, I hope that's possible.
And for those people who say maybe there is Kennedy as an option, you know, the independent option, I would like to remind them that the guy is basically pushing for reparations, meaning giving money to the descendants of slaves, which I find the most demented thing I ever heard in the history of demented things.
Because if that's the case, then there will be a lot of people in Rome that are descendants of slaves from a time in which people who were white were slaves.
Let's not forget that because otherwise, you know, it's all meant to push the narrative of the democrats.
But there is no going back and starting to give a reparation to the descendants That just sounds like a whole lot of BS to me as well, to actually think that you can pay reparations for that.
And I mean, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen or it doesn't mean that it was not.
It just means that, yeah.
You have to admit that certain things were wrong.
And absolutely we have to admit that.
But it doesn't mean that I have to give my own money.
I was born in 1970 or somebody born in the last 100 years and give the money to people because they are the descendants of somebody who was brought here
I mean, if you look at a lot of that slavery, I mean, if you look at slavery in Africa, I mean, the African Ghanaian people were actually known to be slave masters as well, the guys from Ghana, who were actually selling their own people into slavery, right?
So we can never forget, you know, it's not just a white thing.
That's all black people, you know, actually the black people were selling their own people into slavery as well.
And that's actually where, from what I'm looking at, that's where it actually began.
You know, so do we really want to go back?
There was slavery until not so long ago in the Muslim world that was quite prevalent.
I mean, we're talking about until not so long ago, that means literally 2006 or 2007 in some countries.
There have been white slaves too, you know, there's been a lot of slavery all over.
The bottom line is, you know, do we really want to be sitting Looking at that, I think, you know, yes, it's important to be able to acknowledge and move forward.
You know, there has to be healing around that topic, for sure, because I think a lot of people, I mean, if you look at South Africa as well, I mean, Our country is still from this apartheid nonsense that we endured.
Apartheid is a terrible thing.
Oppression from one to another should never be tolerated ever.
And it should never happen.
And I really think we should move forward.
When I saw Nelson Mandela coming to power, I thought that at least there would be a great general forgiveness Ideally, for everything that was the past.
Instead, that wasn't the case.
What happened, I think what was great with that, you know, the fact that Nelson Mandela, and we all thought at the time he was this amazing saint, and I know some people still do, was that absolutely, because he was who he was, and he was putting the message across, our country didn't go into civil war, because that was always the danger, that Africa was going to go, or South Africa rather, was going to go into civil war, and it didn't.
But yes, it's kind of like a delayed effect now, I have to say, you know, and there's a lot of that.
I mean, it's 30 odd years down the line.
In fact, it's exactly 30 years this year that the ANC came into power.
27th of April, in fact, was the election day.
That's the day of freedom that Nelson Mandela came into power.
But, you know, unfortunately, because of the corruption of the ANC, They promised five million houses to the African people within, because of course, before that, there was not much housing for the African people.
Please, those guys were given contracts.
They stole that money.
They blew it on holidays.
You know, it's like, it's disgusting the amount of corruption that's happened in this African National Congress.
And really the bottom line is, they are owned.
They are owned by the Illuminati.
They are all handled by the Oppenheimers, by the Ruperts, who are all handled by the Rothschilds.
Really, you know?
And of course, there's the Stellenbosch Mafia.
There's a lot of nonsense that goes on in this country.
There's a lot of money in this country.
There's big money here, that's for sure.
You know, when you look at the mineral wealth that is Africa.
And yes, the majority of it has been siphoned off.
I mean, one thing that has happened very clearly Also with the rise of Islamic fundamentalism has been a tool from the West created artificially with groups like Al-Qaeda, but then also in Africa, Boko Haram, and then you have ISIS and all the affiliates.
It's about sabotaging the African continent and sabotaging the third world in general, because To make them stay a third world.
I mean, the fact is that in the 60s, 70s, 80s, when these countries could rise and start producing wealth, they were constantly sabotaged with these religious fundamentalist excuses.
But in reality, it is the Western powers that didn't want the third world to develop in any way.
You know, you have the official side of the Western world that would be, you know, Promoting events like Live Aid, We Are The World, and then everything nice and loud.
Do you know what happened with Live Aid, by the way?
Do you know what happened with it?
That was, what was his name again?
The guy from the UK, Boomtown Rats, Bob Geldof.
Bob Geldof was the leader.
And I talk about him in Volume 8, because he then became a classical elitist.
And his daughter died after joining the OTO.
Yes, and he was knighted.
But the money, it was something like a hundred...
No, it was like a million more and a million dollars.
There was a lot of money that was raised.
The money that was raised ended up in the war zones.
It was given to the dictators of Africa and they ended up slaughtering their own people with that money.
It was disgusting what happened.
It was absolutely disgusting.
And that is why Bob Geldof, he is not welcome on this continent anymore.
I wrote it here in my confessions of an Illuminati volumete and I was very adamant in wanting to denounce Geldof as an hypocrite and as somebody who was actually, like you're saying, rightly saying, damaged the African continent.
Yeah, no, it was horrific.
The money that they took out, they were, again, like everything, it was supposed to go to the people, to enrich the people, enrich the country, give them to build this and more schools and more education, what have you, was actually spent buying weapons and buying guns and actually increased the criminal activity by I don't know how much percent and literally ended up slaughtering their own people.
So that they could stay in power.
So, you know, these are the things.
And in fact, yeah, just before you had a guy on the show, John Perkins, who's the author of also the best-selling book called Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
Yeah, where he speaks about how he was the chief economist for a company called Maine.
in the 70s in America.
And these guys are sent out to corrupt the third world countries, to put them into debt.
Like I said, the corruption is something that they want to operate in order to then achieve the possibility of just getting the reward.
The reward is to get the minerals, to get the poor children to maybe work as slaves because that's what's happening here.
A lot of the goods, a lot of the things that we get from Africa are still produced by children who are working in an illegal sector.
Slave.
Child factory.
That's disgusting.
There's an interesting question here, Madeleine.
What do you think the spiritual aspect is of that?
Good people donating money to help others and then it is used as a weapon.
And this is why I say, I've been saying this for a very long time.
And the World Wildlife Foundation, remember as well, We started by Prince Philip and Bernard of the Netherlands.
Yes, who are the same people, Bernard of the Netherlands, connected to the establishment of the Club Bilderberg.
Exactly.
And since then, in Africa, our rhino population has gone extinct, as well as our elephants are now under severe duress.
They brought people in to absolutely hunt and pillage and do whatever the hell they like.
And they would then collect money from good people thinking they're now absolutely, you know, looking after all the wildlife and the pandas in China and the rhinos in Africa and stuff like that.
So be very, very, very careful who you donate your money to.
This is what I'm saying.
You know, they obviously work, they have a good way of manipulating the public and working on those of us with a good conscience.
And we think we're giving our money to a good cause.
And at the end of the day, we are definitely not.
I want to say all the time, before you donate any money to anything, have a look at who sits on the board of directors Or who are their partners?
It's like Ellen DeGeneres.
I did a show on Ellen DeGeneres not too long ago.
One of the good things about the pandemic is that during the pandemic Ellen DeGeneres managed to somehow expose herself as a fraud and then she faded out into oblivion.
Because nowadays, after what happened with, you know, with finally the truth about what she was doing to her collaborators, to her co-workers, I mean, this is something that should happen also for Lizzo.
I don't know if you, I talked about also this big fat black singer Lizzo, who was participating to the event where Joe Biden, Obama and Clinton were trying to raise funds.
Well, Lizzo was accused of the same things.
But because she's so popular and she's so black, she was kind of left off the hook.
And now she's she's basically continuing with their mission to produce demented music and at the same time support the democratic party.
Yeah, exactly.
Ellen DeGeneres with her Gorilla Sanctuary in Rwanda.
Okay, I did a deep dive into that.
We know, for example, gorillas are used in the system for disgusting means.
Now you go and look at all the patrons on Ellen DeGeneres' Rwanda School for Young Women and developing this.
Hello?
Hello?
I seem to have... For a fraction of time I saw you coming in and out.
Sorry, Chantel, I saw you for a fraction of time.
I saw you coming in and out.
Maybe it was on your side some technical problem.
I hope we're through the problem at the end.
It's interesting how you were talking about certain things and then the glitch comes in.
But what I wanted to say is when you look at the patrons on her gorilla sanctuary, It is all zoos in America, hundreds of bloody zoos.
And you got to look at there and then suddenly at those different zoos, you see now they've got gorillas and stuff in there.
The animals are being trafficked, not just to zoos, but to a whole lot of other nefarious places as well.
You've got to look at people like Angelina Jolie.
Why was her daughter born in Namibia?
Why?
Then I did a deep dive into that as well.
Why is the tennis player Federer, why is he in here on the Bill Gates Foundation?
No, I mean, there's so much of that.
And my point is, if you are going to donate money to anything, right?
Look at who the patrons are.
Sam Nelson Mandela's Children Fund.
Hello Rothschild.
The first one you're going to see on there are the Rothschilds.
Charlize Theron, who is an ex-South African, very well known for transgendering her sons as small as at the age of three.
Why is she doing that?
Very, very dodgy story there.
You're looking at all these celebrities.
Madonna, who's been held up, who's been taken to court by the Malawian government for sex trafficking and for her orphanages she has here in South Africa.
Oh, sorry, not South Africa, Malawi.
You've got to look at all these things and then you've got to see who's on the board of directors or who are the patrons or whatever it is.
Oprah Winfrey.
We all know Oprah Winfrey is absolutely disgusting.
When it comes to child sex trafficking, what's happening at the girls' schools here in South Africa, we've got to look at all of these things.
We've got to wake up.
We can't just blindly keep giving.
And if you need to, then you yourself form a little charity.
Donate to your communities independently.
Start stuff like that, you know, with people that are decent, people that don't have Nefarious agendas in place.
This is the stuff we have to do.
We can't just blindly give our powers away anymore.
This is the big thing right now for me, Leo, is, you know, we as the general public have to wake up to these atrocities and these human rights violations that a small percentage of people have been committing.
And you're right, Colleen, the Red Cross, for sure the Red Cross is a trafficker.
It's a trafficking hub.
A lot of them are.
So, yeah.
Well, we saw that a lot of these organizations, so the Moon and the Crescent, as well as the Red Cross and the whole show of organizations also connected somehow, even to the United Nations, we have seen dealing in terrible things without any sense of ethics or morals.
I think that these days to actually find a credible institution is almost impossible most institutions are in fact simply operating on behalf of the new world order and on behalf of their agenda which is not to help the people but is rather to show that they are helping the people
it's two different things here showing that you are helping the people is the preferred habit of the elite and that is when you mention Angelina Jolie Why she does what she does?
Because she likes to show that she's helping.
In reality, They are not helping.
They are trying to eliminate a big chunk of the world population because they say that it's inevitable that we will have to eliminate three quarters of the world population to survive.
And so, in one way or another, they are trying to find... That's why the bad flu pandemic that is manifesting.
We hope it's not going to be the next pandemic to lock us up.
But going back to the food that we eat, we have seen recently Mark Zuckerberg is Not only has this incredible banker in Hawaii, but he's also growing his own cattle, which is feeding them with the most luxurious things.
So they grow up this incredible meat that only the rich and famous will be able to afford and to eat, while we will be given rubbish.
Now, that is the moment in which we will have to decide to not go along anymore with this whole thing.
You see, the problem here is that in the next Six years to 2030 when the Cyber Satan will manifest.
I always said this, as you know, in my books, the ultimate plan of Cyber Satan will be unveiled in 2030.
But with the help of robotics, they will basically arrive to the level of not needing us anymore.
Right.
And that's why they are.
Forcing, for example, in China, where the development of robotics is increasing a lot because they want to place a robot in each household in the next couple of years.
This is their plan.
And, you know, once you have a robot in a household, Then basically that is the Trojan horse to eliminate those humans and to then bypass part of humanity and control them with these robots and making sure that they extinguish and perish as soon as possible.
I know it sounds terrible.
Exactly.
But you know, we've just got to make sure we we have the right to say no.
And if we are smart, we're going to say no.
But it's up to us whether we open the door to allow these things into our houses or not.
You know, this is the whole thing with the satanic cult.
We know how this works.
We have to give permission.
You give permission, and you give permission by paying for a ticket to go to some satanic worshippers concert.
Like, what's that Kylie's boyfriend or ex-boyfriend, I can't remember his name, where all those people died from suffocation.
Not too long ago, and we get permission.
So if we get it, and it started, I mean, also, you know, just these whole computerized systems, but no, but this thing, the phone, it started with just a normal cell phone.
And where has it, where has it developed from the normal cell phone to where we are now?
I mean, AI stuff that we don't even have to write our own letters anymore.
I'm sorry.
I refuse.
At the same time, since the evolution of the smartphone, sorry, before it was actually just a mobile phone.
They never really wanted to take care of the radioactivity that emanates from these phones, the possibility that they will create cancers.
I had friends who were basically professionals who were using the phone so much for their own work that they ended up with cancer in the part of the body where they were always putting their phone.
It's something that, of course, most people don't want to hear because everybody has their phone in their hands and they want to keep on playing with it.
But remember that they have not yet addressed all the issues, the health issues that these phones create.
And I'm not talking only about the control by the AI which is of course increasing and the object that we have in our hands that is manifesting with all the social media that enslave us and all that.
I'm talking about simply the actual object, the hardware, the object that emanates radiation and we put it in our ear and And of course, it damages people that use it too much.
So I think that is a problem that should be addressed by most phone companies.
Do they address it?
No.
Actually, it seems that the latest phones by Apple are worse than the ones before, regarding how much damage they can do to your body.
Entering what I presented in Volume 7, the Internet of Bodies after the Internet of Things, which will be merging with the 6G new technology, because everybody fixated with 5G, but we have the 6G that is evolving very fast, and that's going to be the next step into producing a transhumanist reality.
Right, right.
Makes perfect sense.
Unfortunately.
Well, again, I mean, I say we really ultimately have to get permission to that.
And yeah, I give permission for that to happen by by saying no, you know, not, you know, choosing to not buy into that thing.
Why would you want a robot in your house?
You know, these these automatic little vacuum cleaners, the round vacuum cleaners that people are using.
Every time you switch that on, like, you know, your name is going to some cloud in China, by the way.
Because that stuff all comes from China.
So that's how our movements are tracked.
That's how we are monitored, is when we buy into stuff like that.
You know, for God's sake, get a broom, sweep your house, or just a normal hoover, vacuum cleaner, you know?
Do you really need to have something that runs around?
It's like the other day, I was just getting a technician to come for this regular maintenance work on my air conditioning.
And he says, but you still don't have the smart, how do you call it?
I said, I don't want anything smart.
I don't want this to be connected to the Internet whatsoever.
Ah, OK.
He understood what he was proposing.
I wasn't an idiot.
He could just feed with the latest gadget connected to the Internet so they can control what temperature my house operates in.
I told them simply to screw off.
I'm just going to have the old thermometer, whatever I have connected to their condition, and that's the meter, yes, whatever you want to call it, and not the one connected to the internet, which becomes a way for them to control me.
I mean, it's obvious that they will make it Favourable for you to operate more and more with these so-called smart gadgets, but like I said from the beginning of my trilogy of Cyber Satan, because Volume 6.66, Volume 7 and Volume 9, I call them the trilogy of Cyber Satan.
Now, they will be followed next month, hopefully, when we meet up for our monthly show, I will have a new book.
I'm not gonna...
Say more about it, yes.
I have a new book, Volume 10, I'm working on.
It's about to be finished and there will be some very shocking revelations for people, especially the people who claim they know everything about what's going on in the Middle East because they know absolutely nothing.
And this is the first book that I have dedicated to the subject of Islam.
So beware, because it's going to be a very hardcore book.
It's challenging the Islamic scholarship.
So of course, it's not going to make me very popular back there.
But at the same time, I simply challenge it with their own writings, not with makeup stuff or constructed propaganda.
And at the same time, I have new testimonies and other things that will be shocking.
So get ready for volume 10.
I look forward to that.
You must give me the cover and stuff so we can put it on.
Yes, we're working on it, but hopefully in one month we should have it ready, because my idea is to bring it out in May, which is just before the summer, so I can then present this book all over the United States in a book tour, now that I'm American.
It's my first book as an American and it's also a subject that I didn't want to touch because it's so delicate before becoming an American.
And once the book comes out, you will understand why.
And now you're an American!
I have the freedom of expression, the freedom of bringing you this work that it is also the result of my own personal experiences aside from the rest.
I was in the Middle East.
I was in Turkey.
I was, of course, married with a descendant of Prophet Muhammad in my first marriage.
And I have a lot to say about what they do.
And I'm going to be revealing something that is so shocking that people will be simply left with their mouth open.
So be ready.
Well, I look forward to seeing your next offering, Mr. Zagami.
So, yeah, I look forward to when we have our next show in a couple of weeks' time.
Well, that's going to be in a month.
In a month from now, I'm going to have it ready to present to you and to your audience.
So I don't know if it's going to be for the next show, but it's definitely going to be for the month of May.
Thank you, JN.
Wow, it's got a nice sticker here.
I appreciate you, honey.
Wow.
Well, that's amazing.
We look forward to that, Leo.
And I think there's a lot.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, the more we know, the more we know what to deal with, the better.
And, you know, my advice to everyone at this stage is It's faith over fear.
Stay connected to God.
Stay connected to Spirit.
You know what to do.
And I want to say, you know, just stay as neutral.
I mean, we need telephones.
We've gotten ourselves to the point where we really have to have them.
We need our laptops or computers.
But other than that, you know, You don't need anything else that is... Yeah, but like, for example, with the phones, you know, I always say, just don't keep them all the time with you.
Just kind of park them somewhere.
Now it's becoming very popular, for example, in New York, these parties they do, these parties in which two or three hundred people meet up with no mobile phones and only books.
So they stand in these rooms and read books and enjoy the company of each other in an old-fashioned way.
I think that that is actually, considering what has happened since the development of social media, a very positive outcome.
And these parties apparently are becoming increasingly popular, also for young people, who have been brought up in the age of the smartphone and who don't know anything different.
Absolutely.
And I think, you know, as nice as what social media is, without technology, we wouldn't be able to have these conversations where we can see each other and speak to each other and share from across the world.
There is there are certainly advantages, but I so agree with you put your phone down, go for a walk without it.
You know, once in once a week.
I mean, that's what I do.
We fast once a week from a dusk till tuesday dusk on wednesday so those of you who are joining the fast or wanted to join it remember that dusk tuesday dusk till dusk on wednesday we do our fast i mean i fast from anything i mean obviously i've got to work so i use my phone for work but anything other than that social media anything just take a day off from stuff like that and
And I love the idea that we go back to just meeting, having book clubs, you know, joining and just sharing from the heart and reading books together.
And, you know, that is truly an amazing thing.
Those of us, you know, who are on this path, I think it's so important to be able to get back to that place again and make that possible.
You know, you might be the one that needs to spearhead it.
You.
Yes, you.
That's sitting in the chat.
All of you might be the one.
That needs to start that movement to go back to where, you know, we were less technical and less reliant on social media and the internet and stuff like that, you know?
I mean, if you think about it, I wrote about it in Volume 7 and actually the The famous, or infamous for some people, a shaman who went to Capitol Hill, he actually said he's a great fan of my books publicly to Alex Jones, and he was a fan also of what I said.
Basically what I said is this, without the social media manipulation and all that, probably those people would not have been Lurked into believing that there was some kind of, I don't know, what's happening on Capitol Hill on the 6th of January 2021, which was a trap set up by the various federal agencies together with people like Nancy Pelosi and others.
And people just fall into that trap.
And they ended up, you know, in prison now for years.
Their life ruined.
For what?
I mean, for what?
So, be careful also of what you absorb from the social media.
The QAnon phenomenon in particular was a particularly negative phenomenon because it gave you an hint of truth and so much garbage and lies It's so crazy how many people are being sucked in by that.
And that's exactly it.
And I think those of us who are on this platform now know stuff like that.
They're going to feed you some truth and they're going to feed you a lot of BS.
And they're going to feed you some truth and it's going to be sprinkled with a whole lot of BS as well.
And it's so important at this time to be so in your alignment.
And this is why I say, you know, get rid of as much of that stuff because it interferes with your brain waves.
It interferes with your ability to cognitively make decisions coming from here and not there.
Right.
So, yeah, it's good.
I always say, and I say this every single time, it's a wonderful time to be alive.
We are all here for a purpose and a reason.
It is a beautiful, magical, crazy time to be alive.
And I love being alive with all of you.
And I have no doubt we're going to absolutely turn this crazy world upside down.
And in a way that it needs to be again, Leo.
Leo, thank you so much.
It's always such a pleasure having you on.
Is there anything else you want to just sort of say in ending?
Well, like I said, I think that the eclipse is probably a lot of hype, but at the same time, this eclipse, because of also the passage of a comet, the comet of the devil, which is also passing in front of the sun, will be used by the satanic elite to to do a ritual, a very powerful set of rituals probably around the world.
And this is in itself something we need to look into because maybe the results of those rituals will be then felt in the months following all this, especially You know, I talked about it a lot in articles on LeoZagami.com in the past.
The whole witchcraft movement here in the U.S.
was, from the very moment Donald J. Trump was elected, they were doing weekly cursing sessions against Donald J. Trump.
So imagine what they will be doing now that they know that Trump is the favorite in all the polls and that he will probably win.
So let's see what's going to happen.
This eclipse might, of course, just be like I said, the usual, you know, media hysteria, but there will be something probably very negative happening behind the scene and we have to counteract it with positive egregores.
What it means?
It means that we have to form our foot and address it in a positive way to counteract this negativity.
So God bless you all and I hope to see you soon with also news about my new book which is coming together.
I think that's super exciting.
I look forward to seeing your new book and I just want to end off by saying as well, I fully agree that with this eclipse there's obviously a lot of rituals and stuff that has been going on with our dark brothers and sisters.
Who like to get up to all sorts of nonsense and shenanigans at these times.
And remember, with the rituals, what do you do?
You sacrifice cattle.
And so the bear flu pandemic, pushing the sacrifice of cattle done in a mass setup, like openly without hiding it, they will be slaughtering millions of animals.
That's not looking very good.
No, that's not looking good at all.
So yeah, stay in your faith, pray, stay in alignment, don't get freaked out, but we also know from anyone, you know, and I know those of you watch Caleb shows as well and stuff like that, they will always tell us, I mean, the Luciferians and the witches and whatever it is who do what they do, they have such a strong faith in what they do, which is why they have the power they do, because they do what they do and they have such a strong belief system.
And that's why they're able to manifest what they do.
So for us, we have to do the same as well.
We've got to remember that, you know, the stronger our faith and the more we align with our faith and act in our faith, we they have nothing against that, because then, you know, we are of the light.
And that's what we really have to remember at these times as well.
So But you know, faith over fear, that's where it begins.
I've become the center of attention more and more with negativity coming out of all of all these crises that are developing.
But we also have to understand that there is, like you said, the way of counteracting all this with the positivity.
And hopefully we will be able sooner or later in this end times scenario that we have also seen unfolding, unfortunately, in Haiti, where, you know, They've been sacrificing a lot of cattle and chickens for a couple of hundred years and the results have not been very good.
I'm sorry to say.
No, it's true.
I don't.
Embrace God, but don't embrace this stuff, because it's not... Embrace the God with a big G, not the little g. Thank you.
God bless you, everybody.
Take good care of a fantastic weekend.
And for those of you tuning in tomorrow, I'll be on with Kathy O'Brien at seven o'clock my time.