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Jan. 13, 2024 - The Leo Zagami Show

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WWIII UFOs IN CONGRESS CHAOS MAGIC AND MUCH MORE

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	In that time, our world has taken so many steps in the wrong direction.
	In the negative utopia, science, technology, social organization, social organization, humanization.
	In the negative utopia, science, technology.
	Social organizing.
	It's a great day.
	The negative. Tokyo. Science, technology, social organization,
	dehumanization. The negative. dehumanization. The negative.
	The negative.
	The negative.
	The negative. Technology, social organization.
	I I loved this video made by my friend Albert on this sound, this music, by Vincenzo Viceversa, who is our graphic designer, the guy who makes wonderful covers.
	In fact, it reminds me a little bit of Volume 6.66, but he's also the creator of this rather ominous cover for Volume 9, a very controversial cover.
	For a book that has been very successful.
	And I, of course, invite you to purchase to also support our broadcast.
	This is Leo Zagami.
	This is Christy Zagami.
	Hi everyone!
	And this is the Leo Zagami Show.
	We have a lot for you today.
	World War III, UFOs in Congress, Chaos Magic and much more.
	In 55 minutes, we will have also a guest.
	Who is our guest today?
	Christy?
	Donald Smith.
	Donald Schmidt!
	So guys, this is a big shot of the UFO scene.
	Somebody who we have had also in the past here for our show, and of course it seemed perfect for us to have him today because yesterday there was this important event that took place in Congress, even It was a private, secretive meeting.
	Everybody knew about it, but of course we don't know what they really discussed in this meeting.
	So, today we will have as a special guest Donald R. Schmidt, who is the former co-director of the J. Allen Enoch Center for UFO Studies, who is also a member of the board of the prestigious UFO Museum in Roswell.
	And the co-author of two best-selling books on the subject, UFO Crash at Roswell and The Truth About UFO Crash at Roswell.
	So, and I have here actually one of the, I think, the latest edition of Witness to Roswell, which is, I think this is the latest edition.
	This is the latest edition.
	This is an edition, 75th anniversary edition.
	Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show!
	And of course, this would not be possible without our sponsors, Kristi!
	Okay, so this week we have Malgorzata Minta and Thomas Birmingham and Bruce Kodesh.
	So thank you everyone for your donations.
	Thank you for sponsoring the show and helping this show keep going.
	So we really appreciate it.
	Thank you so much, and of course we have terminated our Exploring the Illuminati series, but this doesn't mean that we will not do in the future some more specials, depending of course on the sponsors.
	In the meantime, we bring you all the latest geopolitical analysis, unusual geopolitical analysis, We also like to see the awkward aspects of what we are analyzing at times.
	Anyway, we have here today a room full of news.
	It's like a table full of news.
	Thanks to the sponsors who deserve, of course, an applause.
	Let's give an applause to our sponsors, Christy.
	We do it the proper way here at the Leo Zagami Show.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And I must say that Vincenzo has brought out another excellent cover for the new edition of Volume 4 that just came out in Italy.
	Here we have the aliens, the Cyber-Saiyans.
	This is only for the Italian readers though.
	So if you want to, of course, purchase my latest book in English, it's Volume 9, and we have also many other books, also by Christy.
	Christy has a couple of books dedicating to her own confessions, no, Christy?
	Yeah, and I'm also working on a cookbook.
	The Zagami Family Cookbook!
	The Zagami Family Cookbook!
	That is a pretty interesting thing.
	It's a project, an unusual project for us to bring out a cookery.
	How do you say cookery book?
	It's a cookbook and it's full of all my favorite recipes that I learned when I was living in Italy and then some that I had my family recipes and then I'm going to post some recipes from my family and Leo's Italian family.
	It's mostly going to be Italian But I'll have a little bit of international in there and funny stories.
	I'm going to write a little bit and put, you know, narratives like funny stories about different things.
	Like when we went to a restaurant, there's so many funny things that happened to us.
	And anyway, jokes and, you know, different like things about Italy that you might not know if you didn't live there.
	If you're an Italian American or if just you want to know about Italy and also cooking, like there's some things insider Secrets, so I'm gonna put that all in this book and it'll be ready in the springtime, so... I'm nervous about it because, you know, I'm instructing people in the kitchen, but I think it's gonna be great, so I'm excited.
	Before we get probably our next volume, which is volume 10, we will probably get your cookery book.
	Yeah.
	Is it appropriate to say cookery book?
	Cookbook.
	I love cooking so much!
	Somebody says, what ethnic is Christy's family?
	German and Italian.
	German, Irish, Italian, a little bit of Scandinavian, and I think a little bit of Jewish, and a little bit of everything.
	But mostly Italian and German.
	Great mix.
	And Irish.
	And English.
	That's my dad's side.
	What is Trump's oracle saying?
	Because today is the first day of the primaries in Iowa, the coldest day ever.
	Iowa is colder than Alaska.
	It's just insane.
	We want to ask Trump, the oracle of Trump, what he thinks about it.
	Trump, deliver!
	Basically, all I've done is keep my promise.
	And of course, we know already who is going to be the winner or who we support here at the Leo Zegami Show.
	We have always supported Donald J. Trump.
	He might be an unusual figure.
	He might be not always likable for everybody, but he delivers.
	He delivers and he works for our country 24 hours a day.
	He manages to do in one day goes from a court trial to Public gathering to a TV show.
	I don't know.
	I mean, he's really, he's one of a kind, one of a kind.
	And so we hope that he gets back into the White House.
	But, but there is a but here.
	Dark forces conspire against him.
	So I want to, I want you to listen to what Nancy Pelosi said recently, because I know, we shouldn't really be listening to an old confused woman like Nancy Pelosi, but she used to be quite powerful and she still is behind the scenes.
	Why do we have to see her anymore?
	I don't know if you want to look, but you can hear what she said.
	You can tell you that.
	Every single piece that you laid out there pulls quite well.
	You lay out what the former president has said he wants to do in terms of repealing Obamacare, in terms of being proud of Roe vs. Wade being struck down, in terms of more tax cuts along the lines of what you saw in 2017.
	That also pulls much better for Democrats than it would for him.
	And yet, this is a neck-and-neck race and no one feels very comfortable on the Democratic side of things that Donald Trump isn't going to be the next president.
	Well, I don't think that nobody feels.
	I think many of us know that it's impossible for him to be the president again.
	What?
	Did you hear what she said?
	No, I wasn't listening to her.
	Even the guy was a little bit shocked when she said this.
	No one feels very comfortable on the Democratic side of things that Donald Trump isn't going to be the next president.
	Well, I don't think that nobody feels.
	I think many of us know that it is impossible for him to be the president again with what he is proposing.
	Well, why do you say that?
	I mean, he made quite a face, the guy.
	Why do you say that?
	And after he asks Nancy Pelosi why you say that, she gives us a word salad with no meaning whatsoever.
	She doesn't answer to the question.
	What he's talking about now is more tax cuts for corporate America, taking them down so low to the detriment of our budget and meeting the needs of people.
	But people have to know.
	I have said over and over again, President Lincoln said, public sentiment is everything.
	With it, you can accomplish almost anything.
	Yeah, and the public sentiment is that Joe Biden is a fool, a complete idiot, and on top of that, he's a pervert that goes around sniffing girls, little girls usually, and doing things that are pretty... Well, I'm gonna show you the latest from Pedo Biden, because it's... I mean, here the girl is obviously embarrassed, and he says,
	I do.
	Yes.
	I do.
	How are you doing?
	Was the last one you heard?
	I can't hear him not say tell you earlier.
	Yes.
	See that there is here a sense of something wrong.
	I mean, look at the way the girl reacts.
	I do.
	I'm sorry.
	How are you doing?
	Was the last one you heard?
	I can't hear him not say tell you earlier.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	He was answering in the meantime a question about the Secretary of Defense, General Prostetman himself, who is basically directing a war on the Houthis, Lloyd Austin, who is basically directing a war on the Houthis, Lloyd Austin, who remains hospitalized with a finger up his butt because he's been operated for prostate So that's what happens when I had to do my only exam for prostate cancer.
	I'm sorry for you, Murray.
	I know, but that's what happened.
	So Lloyd Austin is conducting the defense of America with a finger up his butt.
	You're awfully focused on this finger in the butt.
	No, but I mean, this guy already lied.
	He didn't say to the president where he was.
	He didn't say to anybody where he was.
	He should be, of course, kicked out of office for what he did.
	But he's still in charge in a moment, which is very delicate.
	Attacks are being launched against the Houthis.
	The Houthis are not worried at all about it.
	Actually, they are the most evil bunch ever.
	If you thought that Hamas is evil, if you thought that Hezbollah is evil, look how the Houthis are training against Israel.
	And the Houthis are in Yemen, by the way, which is not around the corner from Israel.
	But in any case, this is an exercise which features also a couple of fake Orthodox Jews that they portray in this video.
	I mean, it's extraordinary.
	Check it out.
	Image on the floor of Netanyahu, the two Jews that are, they seem out of the Protocols of the Sages of Zion kind of imagery.
	It's like blood on crap.
	I mean, this is outrageous.
	Remember when you are sustaining Hamas, when you are sustaining this axis of evil against Israel, remember that you are sustaining these people.
	These people.
	Remember that!
	Alternative media out there, you like to call yourself alternative media.
	Alternative my ass!
	You are sustaining these terrorists who are, of course, involved in theater.
	This is theater.
	But in the past few weeks, they actually attacked various ships.
	15% of American goods go through the Red Sea.
	And they have been attacking and attacking and attacking like pirates, going on and generating big damage for these companies and for this important route.
	Of course, after the latest attacks that were triggered by Prospect General Hospital and by Joe Biden with Great Britain, That didn't follow up on the latest attacks from the last 24 hours, by the way.
	They have attacked these Houthis, but these Houthis, guys, these Houthis are basically, it's a proxy war with Iran and with Russia once again.
	They use weapons that are ration.
	I'm kind of fear.
	The bomb arrives there, they go around.
	What is this?
	It's incredible.
	However... Now our troops have to go there and fight them again.
	In Yemen?
	In Yemen?
	Okay, first of all, first of all...
	All that area is full of genies.
	It's the area with more entities.
	You have seen, of course, this week there's been a lot of talk about the entities that were filmed in the Middle East.
	There is two, let's say, videos that are circulating that we will be discussing probably also with our guests today.
	One is the jellyfish video and the other one is the chandelier video.
	And I wrote an article published on LeoZagami.com yesterday about the chandelier video because the symbol of the chandelier video seems to be the symbol basically identical to the symbol of chaos magic.
	That's just incredible.
	Which is the seal of chaos magic.
	So if you want we can Quickly check out this video, the chandelier one in particular, that was presented this week on News Nation, as usual, that seems to be very much interested.
	Here it is.
	This is the chandelier video.
	Just a second, let me put it back.
	And of course, it's Jeremy Corbell who has brought out this video.
	And Jeremy Corbell was last year in that Congress official session auditing that was open to the public.
	On the contrary of what happened yesterday, yesterday everything was kept secret.
	But a lot of important things happened yesterday in this secret meeting between the lawmakers and the Inspector General of the intelligence community.
	Let's say that...
	The main thing that came out is that what David Grush has been repeating is true.
	So the consequences of rebels engineering and everything that David Grush said are discussed profusely and in depth in volume nine of my confessions and lead to that unfortunate element, which is not really discussed with any connection.
	I mean, today, either you discuss artificial intelligence or either you discuss ufology.
	It's very few people who put the two things together.
	But once you know that this reverse engineering has given us artificial intelligence, we have developed basically what might turn out to be the biggest Trojan horse ever.
	here.
	Well, we are bringing the enemy in our pockets 24 hours a day when we bring a smartphone.
	So, CyberSatan is It's always the same Satan.
	These are fallen angels.
	These are entities that have been cast out of the heavens.
	Now they are here and they are moving to the last phase in which they will help the rise of the Antichrist.
	That is what is happening here.
	World War III is a reality.
	And this actually, this chandelier object that I just showed, is actually an object which appeared in the Middle East right there, where all this war is happening right now.
	And the other entity which appeared, this Some call it the spaghetti monster.
	Some call it the jellyfish.
	There's all kinds of names for it.
	But this also is another video, the jellyfish, which guys... - And Hansen in here to figure out what's going on here.
	He's a former FBI agent who also co-hosts the show UFO Witness on Discovery Plus.
	Ben, I have been waiting with bated breath to get you to weigh in.
	What are your thoughts?
	Well, Ashley, the comments from those around the world you just showed are pretty spot on.
	That's what people are asking, you know, trying to run through the gamut of things.
	The changing of the color and how it goes black to white and back again, I don't necessarily agree that it means it's changing heat signature.
	In fact, when we look at thermal images, it's taking a range of values of everything that's in the background if it's on automatic setting.
	What it tells me, though, is that it's probably happening in camera.
	It's not an artifact.
	Even some of these ardent skeptics are saying it's probably not a smudge.
	And this was in Iraq over an American base.
	So it's all happening in the theater of war that we are now seeing at the center of probably more developments that will bring us closer to the Third World War.
	But what might have also happened You remember a few weeks ago, a couple of weeks ago, we discussed at the end of the year, what we usually discuss, Nostradamus' prophecies, the fact that this year probably we will see a big maritime war and we were pointing especially on Taiwan.
	Now, Taiwan has just completed their elections and the candidate who has won this election, this progressive candidate, Might turn out to be the next Zelensky.
	But Biden, strangely enough, for the first time since the 1950s, has said that America doesn't support the independence of Taiwan.
	This is really a shocking claim because American politics since the 1950s with Harry Kissinger is almost like Harry Kissinger has died and now Joe Biden has already so many wars he has to deal with, and they're all going very bad.
	I mean, the war in Ukraine can't be financed any longer, so now Zelensky is basically trying to get out of this mess with the help of Great Britain.
	We will discuss this soon.
	He's filled with wars.
	Potential wars.
	He has already the war, of course, between Hamas and Israel.
	But then he has this other one developing in the Red Sea with the Houthis.
	There is the Thai.
	I mean, of course, for the first time, maybe Joe Biden had to back off a little bit.
	But it's really weird because these Chinese, Chinese in the sense of Chinese that live in Taiwan, have a common story.
	We have explained in the past, when we talked about Chinese Freemasonry, how the whole story developed.
	Taiwan is electing this guy, this guy called Lai, who might turn out to be a big problem for America because China doesn't like him.
	China, of course, pointed on another candidate that would have been much more for reunification, of course, with what they claim is the motherland.
	China wants to Pick up Taiwan from the state of independence.
	Taiwan was never part of communist China.
	They were part of old China, but never of communist China.
	Since Mao Zedong came, Taiwan then went their own way.
	And here we have the winner.
	for these elections and what might trigger the world theater, how you say it?
	The area of potential conflict in Asia.
	Let me tell you who this guy is. - Basically, he is a former doctor.
	Then he has also a vice president there.
	Taiwan basically is defying China with this election because he is an independentist.
	He's a separatist.
	He's been labeled a troublemaker by China.
	The Taiwan election now is a big problem for America and also a problem that shows the weakness of Joe Biden and also the corruption of Joe Biden.
	Because something else surfaced in the last few hours.
	Oregon, a state of the United States of America, beautiful place.
	Oregon has given the possibility to a guy from the Chinese Communist Party, a billionaire, to buy 85 million dollars of land.
	That's like, that's like, that's like secret land up there.
	That's where we're going in the end.
	I can't do that!
	They bought it.
	The Chinese are buying everything and this is CCCP member and Chairman Mao admirer.
	He's an admirer of Mao Zedong.
	That needs to be against the law.
	It's against America.
	85 million persons of Oregon.
	Timberland is missing from government records.
	How come it's missing from government records?
	Who made this possible?
	Because they're all a bunch of crooks and criminals.
	All of them.
	Alarming lawmaker is now second largest foreign owner of U.S.
	land.
	Pantigao bought basically 19,000, no sorry, 198,000 acres of U.S.
	timber land.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	And he has extensive links to the Chinese Communist Party.
	Also owns a Vanderbilt mansion on East 69th Street in Manhattan.
	This is what America is permitting.
	If, if we went in China and tried to buy this, it would be impossible for us.
	So Joe Biden sends a message to Xi Jinping that he, you know, he can basically invade Taiwan.
	No problem.
	In the meantime, he can buy half of America.
	Oh, this guy.
	I can't stand him.
	Joe Biden is extremely corrupt, but Joe Biden also is a dirty man.
	Dirty man in the sense that, of course, we have seen he has this tendency of sniffing girls, but also he has another tendency.
	And I'm going to show you this because he throws away dirty handkerchiefs in the lawn in front of the White House.
	Oh, no.
	He litters on the lawn?
	Yes.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	He should be stopped.
	He should be stopped.
	Let's go and check out how he litters.
	I mean, I find this quite incredible that the President of the United States throws away litter in front of the White House with no problem.
	The most disturbing thing about me, for me, about him is when I look in his eyes and I see what I see.
	And there is no soul.
	And for real, that's true.
	I mean, if you look in his eyes, they're empty.
	And the eyes are the, you know, the key to the soul.
	Yeah.
	The window to the soul.
	Sorry.
	The guy's a zombie.
	So, yeah.
	And like, he was doing that meet and greet.
	Yesterday, I think, because they were trying to get him to go around more to different places in America.
	Ah, well, we will show some things.
	Which in particular?
	The one where his face was just so blank.
	Ah, yeah, we will show that too.
	But what I want to show you is how he lived.
	We didn't know where he was.
	How he lived in France on the White House lawn.
	Check this out.
	The hostages in Gaza, are they any closer to being released?
	Do ba do ba do ba do, ba do ba do ba do ba do. ba do ba do ba do ba do.
	They're really showing themselves to do really well.
	Come on.
	Come on, man.
	The primaries in Iowa, the coldest ever.
	And I actually have a theory for that one.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's really strange.
	My theory is that they have used some kind of chemtrails, weather control, manipulation to transform Iowa into Alaska, froze everybody.
	And basically, I saw the mainstream news, the leftists of ABC, CBS, NBC, they were like, oh, well, they have to be really courageous to go out and vote with this kind of code.
	Isn't it strange that suddenly you have all this code when Trump is actually winning?
	It's a little bit weird.
	I mean, I know somebody will say I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I think that in this case, the conspiracy might be... But didn't you say we're going to hit an arc?
	Well, that is also another possibility, a mini Ice Age.
	I mean, people have always been talking in the last few years of global warming, but there's also those who have been talking about the possibility instead of a mini Ice Age, especially when you have Yes, recently.
	that trigger certain and also solar magnetic storms.
	These are the causes also earthquakes, but also of transformations in the weather.
	And we had, didn't we have some solar storms recently?
	Yes, recently.
	And we had also a big earthquake in Japan.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So it's always connected.
	Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show!
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	In fact, we have they who are the sponsors of today's show, Christy.
	Okay, well, Malcolm Rezatta, Minta and Thomas Birmingham and Bruce Codis.
	Thank you so much to our sponsors, you are the ones who make this show possible.
	And if you would like more shows or if you would like us to resume more of the Illuminati Occult, we can come back another time during the week and do another show.
	If we get a sponsor.
	Right now we're just sponsored for Saturday.
	Please keep that in mind.
	If you are interested in more work from us, because when it comes down to exploring the Illuminati series, there's a lot of work there.
	It's almost like writing a book so without the sponsorship we can't really take that time out because we simply don't have that.
	Well you're writing a book.
	I mean I have to write books.
	I'm writing a book.
	She's writing a book, a cookery book.
	You made a couple of great pizzas today.
	The pizzas are getting better and better.
	Pizzas are getting better.
	Should we show them?
	Yeah, sure.
	I don't know if I have them here, but if I have them, I'm going to show them.
	Actually, I think I have them here.
	And I think that... I'm sure you have a pizza.
	Oh, yes, I have a pizza.
	Here it is.
	Today, this is your Margherita, yes?
	I just get so hungry and then I just... I also get very hungry with this kind of food.
	Okay, this is a Margherita.
	Well, instead, the other one is the famous Cacio e Pepe, which is a more square kind of pizza.
	Now you made it into a square.
	Yes, yes, here.
	Pasta Pepe Pizza, that is a good pizza and I have it in my cookbook.
	Yes, so you will learn a lot of things from Christy's cookbook.
	And we move forward with yet more news.
	We were talking about this situation regarding Taiwan, what is happening with Biden.
	Biden, who, by the way, was heckled by protesters in Pennsylvania.
	He went around in Pennsylvania.
	We will show also that video that you were mentioning earlier.
	But when he went out of that store, he was also called a loser.
	He was kind of like, OK, so here we have basically Biden.
	a very confused by the truth who is called of course a loser because he is a loser towards
	the end there's a guy shot lose it It's so, like, clear.
	You didn't hear anything, only other yellings, but you heard loser.
	He is the ultimate loser, definitely.
	That's for sure.
	Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show.
	We will have also in 20 minutes our guest.
	In the meantime, we are showing you all the latest news from this week and we have been discussing the fact that Ukraine now feels abandoned almost because here in America we finally woke up especially thanks to the Republican Party and said no to this ongoing investment on a bunch of crooks that reside in Ukraine.
	By the way, and it's been proven, they don't really spend their money only for weapons.
	We know that Zelensky has bought a couple of yachts, billers, this and that, and all the others.
	They're all a bunch of crooks.
	More taxes have gone way up, more and more.
	Everything's so expensive.
	Because of Zelensky and his bullshit war with Russia.
	So now let's leave it on Great Britain and Sunak, who went to Kiev's parliament to get a standing ovation here.
	hear this Prime Minister from England.
	The United Kingdom wants this war, well, they can have it. they can have it.
	The problem is that Medvedev, Medvedev, who is still a powerful figure, he is, of course, a former president of Russia, but also he's basically the second in command after Vladimir Putin, he said, if an English soldier officially entered this conflict, of course, then there would be a full-on atomic nuclear war.
	So let's see what Sunak says.
	Thank you.
	Mr President, Mr Prime Minister, Mr Chairman, honourable members of the RADA.
	I come from the world's oldest parliament to address the world's bravest.
	And it is an honour to do so.
	Every parliamentarian serving in a democratically elected chamber treasures the ideal of freedom.
	Your courage is defending it.
	This is complete rubbish.
	These guys have basically killed a journalist.
	They killed a courageous journalist who was very critical of the Kiev regime.
	Somebody who had basically done a tweet that is now, of course, prophetic.
	Check out what he wrote.
	Now he's dead.
	He was locked up in Ukrainian prison.
	His name is Gonzalo Lira.
	He tried to escape and see if he could find maybe a political asylum in Hungary.
	Gonzalo Lira, this was a tweet he made on July 31st, 2023.
	He said, right now, I'm about to try to get out of Ukraine and seek political asylum in Hungary, either across the border and make it to safety or I'll be disappeared by the Kiev regime.
	This is what happened to me over the past three months.
	And, of course, he disappeared in one of Kiev's prisons.
	He is an American citizen.
	So there is also the involvement, by the way, of Biden's nominated diplomat who is in charge, who is the ambassador now there in Ukraine.
	She's also a criminal who has co-participated to this crime.
	Let's not forget that.
	And now let's go back to this clown, this Indian-British clown.
	You came within 20 kilometers of this chamber with many of you personally targeted.
	You refused to be daunted.
	You continued to sit and do your duty as you have throughout this war.
	Because this is where you express the sovereignty and independence for which your people are prepared to sacrifice everything.
	This is where you are keeping alive the cause of democracy.
	In defiance of the gravest threat we have faced.
	Keeping alive democracy.
	This is the biggest lie ever.
	Keeping alive democracy in Ukraine means stopping any opposition party, any voice of dissent, arresting journalists.
	This is democracy?
	Sooner!
	This is Great Britain today.
	I mean, they are really hypocrites.
	They are liars.
	They are thieves.
	Great Britain.
	With King Charles, who is another Antichrist of sorts, it's just the worst of the worst of the worst kingdoms and democracies on the face of Earth.
	This century, so on behalf of Britain and all your allies, thank you.
	Slava Ukraini!
	Clown!
	I'm sure they don't want to pay for this.
	I'm sure they're hurting too.
	I'm sure that they don't want to pay for this.
	I'm half English and I'm really ashamed of these people.
	Whatever, this guy's supposed to be conservative.
	He's a joke.
	He's a globalist.
	He's a typical tool of the World Economic Forum that once again is trying to discuss behind the scenes the next pandemic.
	Okay?
	Now, I'm going to show you something.
	Of course, we can't discuss... They've been saying that so much.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	First of all, let's not discuss things in a certain way because we trigger the algorithm.
	And so we have to be very careful here what we discuss because we are also on YouTube.
	So the globalist elites are gathering in a couple of days to discuss the next disease, disease X.
	I'm going to show you a document here that is published on the World Economic Forum.
	I'm going to show you the people who are participating to this gathering of sources that is happening.
	OK, so here we are.
	Now, we have to be very careful, guys, because we are on YouTube, so anything that is said in the wrong way can trigger the algorithms.
	OK, perfect.
	Now, this is a citation of a meeting that is going to take place on the 17th of January 2024, with fresh warnings from the World Health Organization that an unknown disease X could result in 20 times more fatalities than the coronavirus pandemic.
	And I'm citing here, so I'm not making any disinformation.
	This session Is, of course, linked to the Partnership for Health Systems Sustainability and Resilience and the Collaborative Surveillance Initiative.
	What does it mean, collaborative surveillance?
	What does it mean that this thing, this kind of conference, is entitled a long-term strategy for climate, nature and energy, when then you're talking about disease X?
	And who are the people, the public speakers, headed by none other than Tedros?
	Oh, man.
	Now, for those who have read volume 7, you know how this is going to end.
	But if you haven't read Volume 7 of My Confessions, I really strongly invite you to get this book, which is available also in the hardcover format.
	and discusses from the Occult Roots of the Great Reset to the Populist Roots of the Great Reject.
	This book is a must for all those people who want to fight this war and survive the next six years before the globalist takeover which will take place with Cyber-Satan.
	Cyber-Satan is a representative of these fallen angels of these fallen angels that basically are these interdimensional beings discussed by David Grush.
	In 12 minutes we will have here with us a great person, a great researcher, a guy I held in high esteem, the author of Witness to Roswell, Donald R. Schmidt.
	And with him we will discuss all the latest, including what happened yesterday.
	Which is very important also.
	So welcome to the Leo Zegami Show, where we try to discuss and propose our unusual analysis in a way that I think People appreciate it because these days it's always difficult to learn about the truth.
	It's always difficult to have honest journalism.
	I still see myself as a journalist.
	I was, of course, born that way.
	I mean, that was one of the two things I did in my life.
	I was involved in the music business and I was a journalist.
	Those things then came together with my own experience with the New World Order, with the secret societies, with what we define as the Illuminati, that pushed me to then publish my confession series.
	And we are here today commenting on a lot of news.
	And of course, Christy has a friend in Canada, so we always discuss Canada, Canada, Canada.
	Guys, Canada is one of the... Oh, what are you going to say now about Canada?
	Okay, this is a journalist, David Menzies, arrested while scramming Christia Freeland, this because she's Muslim.
	Look what they do to him in Canada.
	Stop!
	How come the IRGC is not a terrorist group?
	Why is your government supporting Islamo-Nazis?
	You're under arrest for assault.
	Why are you pushing me?
	You're under arrest for assault.
	You're under arrest for assault.
	Police.
	Police, you're under arrest for assault.
	How am I under arrest?
	You bumped into me.
	You pushed into me.
	I was just scrubbing.
	I've got my credentials here and you just bumped into me.
	So, excuse me.
	Police, you're under arrest for assault.
	What is your name in your bag?
	Why am I under arrest?
	For those people who don't know what I am showing, a reporter in Canada was arrested this week immediately after asking Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland questions about the country stance on the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
	And she was, of course, next to a Muslim, as you all saw.
	He said, Miss Freeland, how come the IRGC is not a terrorist group?
	This was enough to end up basically in prison in Canada.
	He brought my way.
	I was just screaming, Christian Freeland.
	I'm a police officer.
	You're under arrest.
	What is your name and your badge?
	I'm an assault on a police officer.
	How is that possible?
	Because you assaulted me three years ago when Blackface was very aggressive.
	You mean I was asking questions aggressively?
	No, no, your actions were.
	You were almost pushing everybody over.
	That's one of the few...
	Lincoln, you got this on video, right?
	He's saying I'm pushing people over?
	That's an absolute falsehood.
	So now it appeared that way.
	That's what you're saying, officer?
	It appeared I was pushing people.
	I didn't touch a single person.
	That was a little bit aggressive for what was happening.
	You're under arrest.
	Please take the microphone out of my face.
	Well, I'd like an ongoing record of this.
	Can I have the microphone?
	Can you give me?
	I'm not resisting.
	Take your hand out.
	Why am I?
	Why am I?
	I'm just doing my...
	Stop resisting.
	You don't need to resist.
	I don't have to.
	You don't have to say anything.
	You know the truth.
	I'm not saying hi, officer.
	Welcome to Black Faces Canada.
	This is what they do to journalists.
	This is what they do to journalists in Canada.
	Minister Freeland and a RCMP officer blocked me.
	And evidently this is now a trumped up charge of assault.
	They don't want to be oppressed like this.
	They don't.
	And they fought.
	What about the truck thing?
	They fought, and they did the truck revolution, and they fought.
	And I'll remind you that half of the country voted for Biden.
	Here in America.
	In Canada, all of the countries voted for Trudeau at one point.
	Well, I don't believe that half the countries voted for him.
	Remember, we are on YouTube.
	Okay, I won't say it.
	But you know what I'm going to say.
	Of course, of course.
	We lost our freedom of speech somehow.
	So when we have people like Whoopi Goblin saying things like this. - We lost our famous speech somehow.
	I don't know how it happened. - I'm here to say it's ours to lose.
	It is this country, this is what it's all about.
	Either you want it to work forward thinking, you want everybody to have the ability to say how they feel, what they want, to move forward, or you don't.
	Or you want somebody who says, I'm going to be on day one, I'm going to be a dictator.
	Who says it to you?
	Tells you?
	I'm going to put you people away.
	I'm going to take all the journalists.
	I'm going to take all the gay folks.
	I'm going to move you all around and disappear you.
	Lies, lies, lies, lies.
	She's lying.
	If that's the country you want, I have felt for a long time that there's no reason why you can't find somebody smart on the left and somebody smart on the right and put them together and make that the new party.
	She's showing in the meantime that con artist from the Republican Party, the daughter of Dick Cheney.
	I mean, come on guys, what is that?
	Is this going to be a new ticket?
	Cheney Goldberg?
	Never me, but I tell you, we probably don't agree on a lot of stuff, but we agree on the fact that we have a great deal of respect for the country.
	Yeah, sure.
	You agree with the fact that you are never Trumpers.
	These are never Trumpers.
	Never Trumpers.
	They have the Trump derangement syndrome at the maximum level.
	And how we want to see it run.
	Do you see yourself, and would you ever consider being the conduit to that third party?
	Because I don't know if the Republican Party, as we knew it, will survive this.
	Because if he ever gets in again, we'll never have any more elections.
	There will be no more.
	He will stop it.
	Come on, man.
	And he's very clear about that.
	He wants to be dictator for life.
	Okay?
	They're really showing themselves to do really well.
	It's such bullshit.
	It's such bullshit.
	It's really incredible.
	But let's go back in Canada.
	Because in Canada, and this is another thing that regards Canada, it's quite fascinating.
	I'm quite fascinated with Canada recently because they come up with all kinds of bullshit.
	Canadian police warns that posting videos of alleged package thieves in front of your own door could violate their privacy.
	So you can't post them.
	Oh, that's going to piss off Canadians.
	I mean, come on, man.
	These are thieves and you have to respect them?
	Why does Canada do things like this?
	I mean, it's insane.
	Check this out.
	They're being held hostage by a Trudeau.
	By a Trudeau.
	Backers to not post those clips online because they say there could be a case for defamation.
	You cannot post the images yourself because you have to remember that in Canada we have a presumption of innocence.
	And posting that picture could be a violation of private life.
	Instead, he says if anything is stolen, call 9-1-1.
	If you get some proof that somebody might have stolen something, then call the police, give the proof to the police, and then we'll do the investigation.
	We'll bring that person to justice and we'll file some charges.
	Sure, sure.
	Canada, you're not in my best books, I'm sorry.
	You have your Prime Minister who is the illegitimate son of a communist dictator called Fidel Castro, whose mother was a swinger who used to go with Fidel and the father and then this Trudeau was born.
	This monster that implements basically a fascistic, communistic regime I didn't come here to cause any trouble.
	I came here to do my job, and now I'm handcuffed.
	This, this is, you're Canada now, folks.
	You know, this is the Gestapo taking blackface's orders.
	Outrageous.
	And meanwhile, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is not a terrorist organization.
	Is not a terrorist organization.
	By the way, going back to the Hooties that we saw at the beginning, you know that recently they have been taken off the terrorist list by Blinken because, you know, before they started to become even more terroristic in their approach, they had to be taken off the terrorist list by Joe Biden, who is obviously a terrorist lover and a lover of subversion.
	We are waiting to be joined by Donald R. Schmidt soon, who hopefully will join us in three minutes.
	This is the Leo Zagami Show with Leo and Christy, thanks to our sponsors who make all this possible.
	In the meantime, of course, we want to discuss more of this week's news.
	And we have still a lot of news.
	De Santis was basically loomered by Laura Loomer.
	We all know Laura Loomer.
	She's pretty controversial.
	We also know De Santis has been basically a governor who instead of doing his job in the past few months has spent public money and Time to go after this idea that he might become President of the United States.
	I used to respect him as a governor.
	He made this choice.
	He lost all my respect.
	I hope this might change in the future, but I don't know how.
	But this was what happened when Laura Loomer basically went to the scientists and said these things to his face.
	Earlier today.
	I'm recording.
	Okay, thank you.
	Hey Governor, when are you going to drop out?
	Don't you think you've already wasted enough of people's money?
	$300 million?
	Governor DeSantis, why do you have a bubble-wrapped campaign run?
	Are you going to be endorsing President Trump when you drop out the night of the Iowa caucus or hopefully shortly after?
	An absentee governor who changed the law in Florida so that you could run for president.
	Answer the question, Ron.
	I thought you were never back down.
	Never back down, Ron.
	Whatever happened to that?
	Don't assault me!
	Crush charges against me!
	Okay, I'm really happy to bring live on the air with us our close dear friend Donald Schmidt!
	Hi Don!
	Hi Neil!
	Hi Christy!
	Good to see you both again!
	Well, happy new year to you.
	It's great to see you too.
	And especially in this incredible new year for ufology, because we have already something that is seemingly happening after the meeting yesterday in Congress.
	But of course, I know that you might have your own point of view.
	But let's start from last year, 2023, with David Grasch.
	What's your opinion on David Grash, first of all, Don?
	Well, I'm looking forward to hopefully meeting with him this year.
	The invitation has been extended, but I keep reminding people that he's not a true whistleblower in the sense of the very definition of a whistleblower.
	He is not first-hand.
	He can't prove anything that he's been claiming.
	In other words, it's not as though he is in possession of first-hand evidence.
	It's not as though... Wait a second here.
	He has been part of a government institution which was basically in charge.
	That's why he had contact with these sources.
	By the way, I want to introduce you first of all in the proper way, Don, because otherwise it will not be fair, because you have been many times also on News Nation, which has broke, by the way, the scoop on David Groucho.
	And I saw you after David Groucho went on the air with his interview several times on News Nation.
	So, who is Donald Schmidt.
	I know that people know you for your work at the Roswell Museum, for your excellent books, including this one, Witness to Roswell.
	Could you introduce yourself to our audience?
	Well, I'm a former co-director of the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies in Chicago, which was founded by the late, great Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was the consultant to the Air Force Project Blue Book for 20 years.
	And I then would become his director of special investigations.
	I served on his board of directors for 10 years, and I was a skeptic And the one case I wanted to go after was Roswell.
	I was so confident that in a single weekend jaunt down to New Mexico that we would prove, as the government still maintains after going on now 77 years, That it was nothing more than a weather balloon with a radar reflector, kite, that type of thing.
	And here we are all these years later.
	I've done now seven best-selling books.
	The first was made into the Golden Globe-nominated movie Roswell.
	I've led five archaeological digs to the crash site.
	We're still looking for physical evidence.
	I'm now the lead investigator at the International UFO Museum and Research Center, and I'm also the North American representative for the International Coalition of Extraterrestrial Research, ICER.
	And so we've elevated our involvement to that of an international coalition now being represented by over 30 countries, including Italy.
	We do know with Roberto Corso and Roberto Pinotti.
	Roberto Pinotti, correct.
	I discuss Roberto's role in bringing out that information regarding the first UFO crash in Italy, in Magenta, in Northern Italy during the fall.
	Yes. - That's right, you can.
	Yes.
	I actually published some documents regarding that and that is another question I wanted actually to do to you.
	Here, of course, a lot of people will say that because of the institutions that you have represented that you yourself might be some kind of government hack of sorts.
	This is probably an accusation you got many times.
	Many times, many times.
	In fact, I would even use it to my effect at times.
	It was one of the reasons that for the first number of years going even into New Mexico that we were always suspect.
	That people looked at us because we would come in in suit and tie, and they thought we were feds.
	They thought we were revenuers, to use that old country term, that whenever a government official would show up and announce that they couldn't be trusted.
	And that, too, we would use to our benefit because we realized that we had to gain their confidence.
	We had to gain their trust.
	And in doing so, we were able to demonstrate that we could be trusted, that we were looking out for their best interests.
	We were collectively trying to put together a case against the very people who had forced them to live a life of fear and intimidation.
	That's the thing about David Grush, that he has been a stalwart
	That is one of the main things that came out from yesterday's meeting, which on the contrary of the meeting that was held last July, was strictly reserved to people who of course had a security clearance, who were lawmakers.
	together with the Spectre General of the intelligence community.
	So I wanted actually to point out on what was said yesterday because the fact that they were threatened means that some people might have even died and this is unacceptable, of course, but at the same time, we can realize that of course, but at the same time, we can realize that if there is such secrets, they are really kept very tightly
	So let me show you what was said quickly on News Nation about this.
	Brian Anton has been on the story.
	He's here live.
	So secretive.
	Why?
	Why so secretive this time when it was public in July?
	It was secretive, Ashley, because this was the chance that these lawmakers who have been investigating what's really going on with UFOs were able to get in with the Inspector General of the intelligence community and talk with him about what he has been able to uncover when it comes to all of these things we've been talking about, especially David Grush, the UFO whistleblower that we... So this is about David Grush, but further on,
	they talk about instead the frets, because the fret element is what also Bansfield found very ominous and also very unusual.
	And it was the representatives, Anna Paulina Luna in particular, seem to be quite taken by this fret.
	So let's see it.
	I don't want to go too far, but they did say a little bit more about what they learned.
	Take a listen.
	I believe that he's telling the truth.
	I think that he is a credible witness.
	And what I can also say is one thing in particular that really caused me to be concerned about this whole thing is that Grush had stated to myself, Representative Burchett, and another member on the phone that there were people that were hurt hiding this information and keeping this information safe and or trying to come forward with this information.
	What I can tell you is I believe that claim after now leaving.
	Here it's what you've been talking about, so I will let you carry on.
	Well, it's amazing how many of my colleagues, and there was an exchange between a number of us even today, and the idea that the United States government, that the military, that the Pentagon would ever resort to physical threats And I always go back to 1947 that they were threatening children.
	They were telling parents that they would kill their children if they ever spoke out of turn regarding this balloon recovery back in 1947 outside of Roswell.
	So it hardly is setting precedent in suggesting that people have disappeared, people have had untimely accidents.
	People have been poisoned.
	Remember William Colby, when he was to testify during Iran-Contra, he was the head of the CIA at that time.
	And within days, he develops a tumor as far as brain cancer, and he's unable to testify.
	And I'll never forget, you two, that I quickly contacted someone who I trusted within the agency.
	And I asked, now is the CIA in possession of chemicals, of agents that could create mutations within the brain and cause cancers?
	And he laughed and he went, Don, we have dozens, we have dozens.
	And they have electromagnetic weapons that have been used on those embassies.
	And I have attended conferences where people We're getting sick, we're getting hospitalized, and then it would come out afterwards that how do we know we weren't exposed to a microwave as far as attack?
	How do we know that there wasn't something within the dinner the night before that type of thing?
	And so...
	I've long looked over my shoulder, but not so much as that I anticipate or I expect foul play as much as I know it's not beyond the pale.
	I know these people are very capable of even assassinating a president if they don't hold the party line.
	So let's not, you know, bury our heads in the sand in all this.
	And I think these people, they continue to demonstrate just how naive they are to what we're dealing with.
	We're dealing with a government.
	We're dealing with a Pentagon that has a long history of not only corruption.
	I mean, my God, the Pentagon, the last six audits, they have failed.
	So they can't account for billions of dollars of expenditures.
	And we're supposed to trust them.
	We're supposed to believe them, whether it's on this topic or any other topic.
	And so let's try to at least acknowledge and collectively agree that we're dealing with forces that have a long track record of not playing fair, of not playing above board, and as MKUltra would demonstrate.
	And you know, I'm surprised how many people in the media have never heard of MKUltra.
	But it's a prime example of where their own people in the military are guinea pigs, they're expendable.
	It's no big deal for them to put a thousand people in harm's way and just feel that, well, for the greater good of the military.
	I think there is here also a question I wanted to tell you, in fact, regarding what was used to be the counterpart of MKULTRA in Russia.
	As you know, there was a counterpart.
	This counterpart was a department, a department of the, let's say, it was known as Department 100003.
	And in charge of it, there was a guy, a lieutenant, I think, Lieutenant General Alexei Savin, and recently his name popped up in an organization that apparently works in search of UFOs or is connected to UFOs.
	Back in the days, Alexei Savin, the responsible of this department, was basically in charge of ESPs, perception, all the things that basically also MQ Ultra was Trying to achieve.
	But now they are in existence and they depend directly from Vladimir Putin.
	Now the interesting thing that I discovered is that they are connected to John Podesta through a guy called Georgio Bassi in Italy.
	And that he's still working with this new institution which has now this incredible building in Moscow.
	Do you know something about this organization?
	And apparently has also invited the head of the Jesuits, the former head, before Consul Magno, Luis Funes, to Moscow.
	Before we would even discount the idea that there will be similar projects in the then Soviet Union, I've lectured in Moscow, I've been to the Space Museum, and one is just amazed that their shuttle is identical to our own.
	I mean, except for the markings, I mean, it's the exact same craft.
	And the point being that it was no different than when we tried to establish a fail-safe system with the Soviet Union, the idea that we, the United States, we upgraded their systems that they would be on par with our own.
	In the event that we would have a false flag situation and could potentially go to nuclear war just for the sake that our systems weren't balanced, that they weren't at that same, you know, the state-of-the-art technology.
	So in as much as we have always dealt with covert activity and that
	We have always been, you know, within this master, this chess match between Russia and United States that as we were experimenting as far as with mind control, as we were experimenting as far as in using like LSD on our own troops during the Vietnam War, that it would not surprise me at all that we were being monitored, we were being watched and that the Russians would have similar
	But also, their contact with these UFOs, aliens, alleged aliens, who have then provided the source for reverse engineering.
	What is your position regarding this reverse engineering?
	Because that is also a strong point of David Grush's revelations.
	Well, just accepting that the Pentagon, the military's chief function, Should they ever acquire, get their hands on foreign technology, or in this case, something truly foreign?
	That it would be the military application of that technology.
	In other words, how can we make it into a weapon?
	How can we use it to advance our own superiority within the arms race, within the space race, that type of thing?
	How can we apply it?
	And so the very notion, because we've heard this regarding Roswell back in 47, that there was a A conscientious, there was a high-level attempt at reverse engineering the technology.
	And until just a few years ago, whenever I would be asked, I would state that it was still a cover-up of ignorance, that they still can't find the on button, that it's something that advanced that we can't bridge the technology.
	And I have grown to accept more and more in recent years that we're dealing with something interdimensional, that it is not only physically beyond our comprehension, but that it's also as far as intermentionally beyond our comprehension.
	We can't cross over.
	We can't figure it out because it's something from another realm.
	Sorry to interrupt you, but in the 1950s, apparently in 1957, there was a meeting regarding this reverse engineering with people from IBM and other companies that ended up benefiting the development of artificial intelligence.
	Now, I always have seen that as some kind of Trojan horse, because if I'm an alien civilization, the most easy way of duping some, you know, we are a primitive species, like you said, they're so advanced, so just throw this whole thing there, I mean, make it crash, whatever, Then they are actually giving these technologies to these companies.
	And one of the things that was discussed also in this report in News Nation, which went on yesterday, was the fact that, of course, now these companies, after all these decades, have taken this knowledge and are not any longer connected to the original Retrivial and the connection with them.
	So, this means that in a way though, we are being pushed towards a reality and now we are seeing it with the development of quantum computers that could fret the very existence of mankind.
	Yes, yes, yes, and that's where, personally, I'm more concerned about AI.
	I'm more concerned about the idea that humankind is at the pinnacle of being replaced by the very machines that we have designed, that we have created.
	And I see that this could potentially be a false flag in that regard.
	That if it should finally be acknowledged that there's a threat from off the planet, And that we have to allow AI to protect us, that we have to allow AI to somehow kind of meet this threat halfway, that it's beyond human comprehension.
	But there is also those people like Rhys, who basically came out in June of last year, just a week before Grouch started with his revelations, who is a famous astronomer, Who published a paper regarding the fact that maybe alien intelligence is hiding within the AI.
	That's where it's hiding.
	Well, it certainly could.
	And what's interesting about that, Leo, is that even at the time of Halley's Comet, we were working on a movie script.
	It was actually for a TV movie.
	And the idea that the aliens could come in on the tail of the comet And remain totally invisible to, you know, seeing their invasion, so to speak.
	And so that this would take it a step further, the idea that AI could, this could be infiltrated.
	By a force beyond our comprehension, and we would never see it coming.
	It would look like it was just part of our own advancement, our own progression within AI, and we would have no control of it whatsoever.
	It would be something then so foreign, so alien, and the takeover could be overnight.
	And we would have zero resistance.
	I mean, once we have smart cities, smart cars, smart everything, everything is connected to the grid, it takes a second for an advanced civilization to conduct and take over the show.
	And if I'm sitting at the Pentagon right now, and what if I realize, I know, that we are truly dealing with something that foreign, To the point that it's supernatural.
	We've talked about this before, and I know for a fact I've talked to them.
	There is a large faction at the Pentagon that truly believes this is something demonic.
	That this is something evil.
	The faction that Luis Elizondo pointed out at one point in his first interview, I think, that there was some kind of religious faction that was seen by him in a negative way.
	But what if actually that faction is in a way scared of something that is inherently demonic?
	Yes, yes.
	I mean, just for the fact that they can't comprehend it.
	It's that in itself, the idea that if there's no contact, no communication, and you are to trust something that could squash you like a bug, something that could, as we just described, with a cyber attack, shut us down overnight.
	And how would you ever trust something That may present itself as being benevolent, but yet, as you said, it's a Trojan horse.
	It's something that, and that's where when you talk about the Defense Department, you talk about the Pentagon, their primary function is the defense of the nation, of the country.
	And when you're dealing with something that would make the Russians pale in comparison, I wouldn't admit anything either.
	I would keep that so tight to my vest that... And here we go into what this week was described as the jellyfish UFO and the other one the chandelier UFO.
	I would like to have your opinion first on Jeremy Corbell as a source of all this.
	I'm there too.
	It's almost like Tom DeLonge.
	The idea that They're the last people you would expect to serve as conduits for the Intelligence Committee.
	But for that reason, they're the perfect marks.
	Because like in Jeremy Corbell, I mean, he's a film producer.
	He's not a researcher.
	He's not an investigator.
	He's not a scientist in any manner, shape or form.
	And yet he... Jeremy Corbett?
	Here we have Jeremy Corbett.
	I'm just going to put him in what is his latest appearance on News Nation.
	So then you can tell me your opinion.
	Here we have it.
	Now, first of all, let's discuss this first row seat with you, who are an expert.
	hearings.
	He had a front row seat for David Grush's testimony in July.
	And you can see right there.
	Now, first of all, let's discuss this first row seat with you, who are an expert.
	Who are these people and should they be there?
	Well, we have Knap.
	George Knap was sitting to the left of David Grush here.
	Knapp is a seasoned veteran, longtime journalist, reporter in Las Vegas, and he's done a very A large amount of good reporting and special reports on the subject of UFOs, UAPs.
	I've known George for a long time.
	I feel that he remains one of our trusted journalists in the field.
	But he's been working with a film producer in the likes of Jeremy Corbell for the last number of years.
	And I just, I would question why you would go to a film producer unless you wanted to get the story out.
	You'd want to get the disinformation out.
	Because I can assure both of you that... I mean, now there is even a movie here, a documentary by TMZ.
	I mean, TMZ is like gossip, you know?
	When I think back to how strict Dr. Hynek was, my scientific director, in who he talked to, who he did interviews with, because he always reminded us that we walked on eggshells, that the subject was that controversial, that
	You wanted the biggest bang for your buck, and it wasn't putting out film, it wasn't putting out documentaries, it wasn't just doing interviews for the sake of the story.
	And I'm afraid that's what we're seeing, whether it's on NewsNation, it's what we're seeing as far as that these people are constantly jockeying for position.
	And who's gonna get the biggest story?
	Now, we are viewing this latest clip.
	What do you think it is, this thing we're seeing here?
	It isn't your classic UFO.
	I mean the idea that I'm always suspect of anything today, whether it's a modified drone, whether it's something that doesn't fit the classic, you know, technology that one would expect if it was something sophisticated, something beyond our own hardware.
	And as a result, just because it looks unusual doesn't mean it isn't.
	And the fact that the military has a long history of not releasing anything to the public, releasing anything to the media.
	And the fact that whenever they are, they're jumping handsprings to put things out.
	That's not their nature.
	That's not what the intelligence community does.
	When they do release things, it's for effect.
	It's for public reaction.
	It's a false flag situation.
	It's they're trying to distract us, divert us in one direction while they're doing something else.
	And that's why I'm all the more concerned that they're using UFOs, that they're using UAVs.
	Let me interrupt for a second here, Donald.
	There is this other thing, the chandelier, that I took out of my files.
	Please continue.
	But the idea that they continue to use the subject as a diversion.
	And it's like, to me, it's nothing new.
	This has been going on for 40 years.
	I mean, Jeremy Corbell's source must be a military source.
	He gets a couple of things and they're both from the Middle East.
	One is supposedly from an American base in Iraq.
	The other one is over the sea in the Gulf there.
	I mean, it's always from a highly militarized area in which there is a lot of military activities.
	And so, what do you think about that?
	Well, and if we tie this in with the Chinese balloon, Last year.
	And then we had three other situations involving supposedly balloons over Alaska and then Vancouver and then the Hudson Bay, that type of thing.
	And those subsequent three were shot down by American fighters.
	Okay, fine.
	No wreckage ever recovered.
	How convenient that it was inaccessible.
	These are false flags, these are diversions, these are distractions.
	And it would seem then perfect that you would go to a film producer, you go to a media source like News Nation, and you would dangle that carrot.
	And it would seem as though you were being upfront, that you were actually providing, you were being as transparent as possible, when in reality, it's all smoke and mirrors.
	It has nothing to do with reality.
	It's like, what can we get them to believe today?
	And I mean, we had the situation down at the shopping mall down in Miami.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That is something that last week was all over the alternative media.
	And of course, we then also reported the fact that there were some juvenile delinquents that had put upside down the whole mall.
	But what is your take on that?
	Well, I received a number of phone calls while it was happening.
	And you need to turn on the news, you need to check this out.
	And I mean that the entire mall was just overrun with police cars and helicopters.
	And then the talk that there were 9 to 10 foot tall beings that were observed walking inside the mall and then outside the mall.
	Then the follow-up talk that the airport was shut down in Miami and that 60,000 people had a power outage.
	And it all sounded as though this was some form of, you know, alien presence that couldn't be accounted for.
	And this was the heavy-handed way, the manner in which the city responded to it.
	Well, then as you just mentioned, Leo, What originally was described as just three youths, three teenagers, now has become 50.
	And that they were firing off fireworks inside the mall.
	Well, I think if that were the case... The only thing of this whole story that me and Cristi came up with that couldn't be really explained was why The son of this guy who was basically a candidate for the office of sheriff suddenly had called his father and his father wouldn't hear.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, we've had similar situations like the incident that happened at O'Hare Airport.
	And we were trying to talk to employees at United Airlines.
	And Chicago is one of the main hubs for that carrier.
	And we were told over and over again.
	In other words, there was a gag order that was in effect.
	None of these people were free to talk.
	I don't find it unusual that any members of the police department would be told basically, mum's the word, keep your mouth shut.
	It's generated enough negative publicity we don't need anymore.
	I do find it interesting that the son talking to his very father is being, it would be no different than you talking to your father, am I talking to my father.
	They're not military, they haven't been sworn to secrecy.
	I mean, it's like, I don't expect you to say something on the record, Dad, but can we talk later?
	Will you confide to me then, that way?
	And so obviously we haven't heard the last of this, but yeah, I find that rather suspicious.
	No matter what the final outcome turns out to be, no matter what actually did take place, that you're dealing with a father and a son.
	And the father, you know, continuing to say over and over again, I can't talk about that.
	Don't ask me about that.
	That's not, it's not a military situation.
	It's law enforcement.
	You know, they're civilians.
	They work for us.
	So the press needs to, you know, dig and get to the bottom of it.
	I lost the sound.
	I lost the sound.
	We have a problem with the audio.
	You must have said something very sensitive there, Leo.
	We are trying here to actually clear this whole matter up and the aliens caught in Miami definitely have been On the mouth of many people, people have been talking about it.
	So I would say that there is something weird about the whole thing.
	But it could be related also to terrorism, to an act of terrorism or something that has nothing to do with UFOs.
	It certainly could.
	Or was it again a trial balloon?
	How quickly can we evacuate a shopping mall?
	How quickly can the police respond to a given call?
	Or quite simply, can we get people to believe something that outlandish, that unbelievable?
	And these false flag situations, and I think we all are anticipating that 2024, especially leading up to the presidential election, is going to be the year of false flags.
	And just how much of it are we going to fall for?
	Or are there enough of us that have seen these carrots being dangled for all these years that we realize it's the boy crying wolf?
	Like Chicken Little, how often is the sky going to fall before we realize it's just so much nonsense?
	There was a witness that me and Christy picked up that seemed to describe something.
	I would like to just put him here a second and see what do you think about this witness, if it's credible in any way.
	Just getting weirder in Florida, another witness has come forward with his testimony as to what he saw in Bayside Mall on January 1st, 2024.
	He claims to have witnessed the whole thing unfold.
	Basically, it centers around a group of teens who had some sort of object that kind of looked like a DVD player that maybe they had created, opened, and it created a portal with an alien being stepping through.
	Now, he explains in detail of what this thing did and what it was, and it leads to its credibility.
	The question to ask, though, what happened to these teens?
	What happened to that object?
	So the conspiracy is going way out of control here.
	I mean, we're talking about suddenly an interdimensional door opened into a mall by a group of teens.
	I'd be if something out of the ordinary.
	Supposedly described by a number of eyewitnesses was seen.
	I'd be much more apt to accept that it was something of a holographic projection.
	It could have been a number of teenagers just playing with.
	We, I mean, we used holographic projectors years ago in some of the theater we were involved with.
	And we had, we created the illusion of someone walking across a stage.
	And that technology was available 20, 25 years ago.
	And so the very thought that people might have seen something, I'd be much, as I said, much more willing to believe that if they had some type of device, that that's what it may have been.
	Will anybody...
	I mean, why didn't anybody yet contact this candidate for the sheriff's office who made these assertions to his son who were recorded on video?
	Why didn't, did he refuse any comment about it?
	Well, we know that the media very often, the moment they are told a story is off limits, it's taboo.
	They tend to back off.
	It takes someone like you, Leo, or some of your colleagues, for example, who have this dogged reputation of not just accepting Intimidation, threats on the part of law enforcement, or what we were discussing earlier, the military, that it just intrigues us and raises our curiosity all the more.
	What are you hiding?
	Why are you denying my freedom of the press?
	Why are you creating this situation that becomes all the more compelling that you're hiding something, that you're covering something up?
	Now that may be also their intention.
	To create the impression it's something that people are describing, but in reality it's something else.
	That's something again that... A lot of people have always referred to Sergei Monast and what he created in the middle of the 90s with that whole Blue Beam project thing.
	was a creation of his fantasy from what I know.
	I mean, but he died in very mysterious circumstances, though.
	I mean, he died very suddenly.
	And a lot of people talk about even the use of magnetic electromagnetic microwave weapons against him.
	Did you ever have the possibility to to chat with Sergei Monast?
	No, no, no.
	And I certainly would have, you know, had more than just a list of 20 questions posed in the sense that a lot of our own interaction with the forces that beat would have overlapped.
	For those who don't know what we're talking about, Sergei Monast was a Canadian, was also French-speaking Canadian, aside from being an excellent journalist involved.
	Journalist, I would say somebody who was really interested in these kind of subjects in a country which we know is very plain, not very open about things, because Canada is always about maintaining the status quo.
	And then suddenly his untimely death after he was arrested.
	And that really makes us wonder what's really behind it.
	Though I never really believed the Project Blue Beam thing because I think that we are well beyond that.
	What's your opinion about it?
	It would be 180 degree juxtaposition as far as from the position that the government slash Pentagon has maintained for now over 75 years and that we would jump to the actual acknowledgement that we are being invaded from outer space, that we have been infiltrated, that they have taken over from the highest levels of government and corporation and education.
	And first of all, I think his thing was the creation of a false messiah that will present himself to the world, aided by this technology.
	That was, I think, because regarding all the rest, it seems pretty plausible because it's kind of evident, it's self-evident.
	I mean, it's manifesting in front of our eyes as we speak.
	And it's hardly a new concept.
	I mean, my God, even that one classic episode of the Twilight Zone... In fact, they accused him of having picked up that concept from, I think, a Star Trek episode.
	Right, right.
	And so it's known as doing your homework, being a student of history.
	And I think what we're also dealing with with Generation Z, the idea that where history is no longer even required as a prereq on the college level, that it always part of this dumbing down of society to the point that they don't recognize things that the three of us do.
	That it's like we're able to look back and go, oh, that's an exact copy or that's a plagiarism from, you know, someone else's work or someone else's, you know, research, that type of thing.
	And that's where I love in being in my field.
	One of those who's also looked at as being an historian, and even with the museum in Roswell, and even in being able to investigate something that happened back in 1947, you have to wade through a great deal of history.
	You have to look back to the zeitgeist of the time and then how it applies to today.
	And as a result, I find where a lot of scientific colleagues who I have, well, certainly today we would do this and certainly today, but it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
	It was altogether a different situation back at that time.
	You need to, again, do your historical research.
	You cannot apply today... From your historical research in The Witness to Roswell, you have actually encountered a lot of those threats which now Groucho is talking about.
	There has been a scenario here, a sort of deep state, Involving the military industrial complex, who is keeping these secrets from us.
	This is for sure.
	Well, and that's why I appreciate that with the meeting yesterday, that whether, I mean, for the Congress people who were there, like Tim Burchette, that they feel even more confident about Grush after this meeting.
	and that they went so far as to say that...
	At the same time, Tim Bruchetto was worrying about all this money that we spend in programs which are basically not answering to anybody, money that is just thrown out of the window for things that we don't know about.
	Well, and the fact that even today, in the past, it was established as JNAP-146, which is Joint Army-Navy-Air Force Procedure.
	And the law as it is written is that any disclosure of sensitive UFO information outside of respective ranks, in other words, if you don't have permission, To release classified UFO data.
	You are subject to 10 years imprisonment, loss of all pension and benefits, or termination as far as of your rank.
	While instead, with this revenge of Thames, we will have a protection for those people who come out as whistleblowers.
	With immunity.
	Right.
	And that is what was provided to Grush, and it didn't, according to him, then prevent any less of the threats, the intimidation.
	But again, we have to step back and we have to look at it.
	Is that part of the entire agenda, that they have to make it look That he is legitimate and that he also goes through that baptism of fire, so to speak.
	But I appreciate that the Congress people yesterday walked away feeling that the bar has been moved.
	They obviously because it was a top, you know, a secret meeting that they could not disclose.
	The details of what was discussed, what was presented by the head of operations as far as intelligence, But that they came away feeling that David Grush as a high-ranking intelligence officer is credible.
	And to me, that's the most significant part of the meeting yesterday, that the very person that we're looking at as being the conduit to all these other whistleblowers, And that he passed mustard, so to speak.
	And as a result, that will open the doors to the others.
	And that's what I'm anxiously awaiting to see.
	So now we are in closing.
	What are your next projects and what you can talk about here on the air to promote, of course, shamelessly, whatever book or anything else that you are planning?
	Because you are always so busy and involved in many things.
	We're planning another archaeological dig at the crash site in New Mexico, doing a major excavation.
	We're going to go down as far as below the typical archaeological level of penetration of the ground.
	We're going to be using subterranean radar again and electromagnetic spectral analysis.
	So we're going to hit it hard again.
	So we're looking forward to that.
	The next book I'm doing is a book where I'm going to be demonstrating all the illegal, talking about threats to civilians, talk about First Amendment violations, talk about due process violations.
	And then as I paint the scenario of how this all took place back in 1947 as a result of this weather balloon device, I'm going to have legal commentary with three lawyers who are going to be citing chapter and verse why this was illegal, why this makes it, you know, as far as in a courtroom.
	This would be something that would be highly debated.
	Why deathbed testimonies, why sworn affidavits are very significant, for example, and then have a retired judge who would write the foreword to the book and why this is all significant.
	So it's another approach, but this will shut down the skeptics once and for all because it's not Don Schmidt saying any longer.
	It's a legal team that is saying, wait a minute, gear.
	They violated the rights of these witnesses and how it's going to segue up till 2024 and what's going on with David Grush today.
	And what's going on in the world with one of the most important elections of recent American history also.
	Because we have, of course, what's happening in the political realm, which is also quite epic in all this, as well as what is happening with World War Three, because it's an ongoing situation which is developing on multiple fronts, which, of course, might trigger some kind of reactions, because we know that the use of nuclear force has always brought around a lot of UFO activity.
	Yes, yes.
	In fact, I co-wrote a documentary on just that.
	And we're in post-production as we speak.
	And the history of the phenomenon of UFOs and nuclear tests, nuclear facilities, nuclear as far as ammunition sites, And there's always been this attraction for some reason.
	And that too, suggesting that it's exactly what we would do.
	If we should arrive, we should land on an inhabited planet 100 years from now.
	And the first thing we would check out is their military potential.
	We'd see if they had a bigger stick than we possessed.
	And so it's very consistent with the scientific exploration of a planet that is keenly observant.
	You'd be keenly interested in their biggest weapon, and in our case, nuclear weaponry.
	Thank you so much, Donald R. Schmidt.
	Today, our special guest, we were honored to have you on.
	Now we have our closing of our show, which is usually very picturesque.
	It involves also a sort of a dance.
	I think we've made you do this before.
	I think I've probably made you do this before.
	But this time, for the new format, we have changed the sound.
	It's coming in.
	It's creeping in.
	It's creeping in.
	It is!
	So Donald, I hope to see you again in Roswell, possibly this year.
	Yes!
	And thank you so much for having participated in the Leo Zagami Show!
	Thank you!
	Participate in our dig, and I'll send you out a formal invitation for that, so we'll let you go.
	I will be honored, I will be honored.
	Here we go!
	You're gonna be a long time dead, so the devil with the devil says aye.
	You're always giving me the dickens, telling me that life's no easy pickings.
	But just as long as I have fun, why the devil with the devil says aye.
	You can have your social teas and bingo for your fun.
	That was really, you know, the 30s, and then we had the 40s, and the 40s was when euphoria came all to us in one go.
	Modern age of UFOs, yes, late 40s.
	and then we had the 40s.
	And the 40s was when ufology came all to us in one go.
	It came in the modern age of UFOs.
	Yes, late 40s.
	That was the best for it.
	So we will see you next week, guys, for another episode of the Neo Zogami Show.
	Thank you, Donald.
	And if you want to find Donald, where can they find you?
	I'm on Facebook at Donald Raymond Schmidt and as far as books are available on Amazon and I'll find bookstores around the country.

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