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Oct. 18, 2023 - The Leo Zagami Show
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GAZA THE HOLY CITY OF THE SABBATEANS
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4 p.m.
Eastern Time, and I'm just now realizing as I look at the camera how red my face is.
I went to the gym and went to the sauna and then left and came to here, so that's when my face is red.
But Mr. Zagami's been on here several times before.
You can go into the description, you can find his website, the links to his books.
Today we're going to talk about Volume 9, which amongst other things, I want to say you have one of the most unique points, and I brought it up to a friend last night on a stream, was that
QAnon, I like the hypothesis that QAnon might be the first AI created religion in a sense that it has its followers, it has its almost it's like holy scripts, the Q drops, and that I think as you quoted No, Harari, you've all know Harari in the past.
And he says it disparagingly that, you know, holy scriptures come from non human intelligence.
And he kind of puts that down because he's a, you know, demonic New World Order transhumanist communist.
But you say that there might this one might actually be correct in that.
It is the first non-human intelligence.
And I also wanted to say, that is a fucking awesome suit you're wearing.
For everybody that's listening, you should be watching.
Mr. Zigami is in a powder baby blue suit.
You look like a trillion bucks.
But Mr. Zigami, I'm going to post a live link.
How are you doing, sir?
Great, actually interesting that you can make that connection with Q because the Q source is also the hypothetical written collection of primarily Jesus sayings that are part of the material found in the Gospels.
Matthew and Luke, but not in the Gospel of Mark.
So it's very interesting how this Q becomes a new religion, but in reality a Q source inspired the very religion which we are following, which is Christianity.
That's an interesting point.
Also the fact that, of course, we are in front of AI creation, which has led many people astray.
On the contrary, of course, of Christianity, which keeps on proving itself as being a religion built on a cornerstone of a great revelation like Jesus Christ, which, of course, we are all attending as we are encountering now the end times, or is the second coming.
We have instead an AI-generated reality, including this whole QAnon phenomenon, which is really sad.
I think that a lot of people have been led to make the wrong decisions, especially on the 6th of January of the year 2021, when I think most of the people involved in that whole Capitol Hill uprising were when I think most of the people involved in that whole Capitol Hill uprising were in one way or another following the truth between brackets of QAnon, who promised a great storm of sorts, which
who promised a great storm of sorts, which will change forever the reality of American politics.
And we saw it really, and this I explain also in my book on, In the Shaman, the QAnon Shaman, which by the way is a guy who reads my books, he even admitted that during a live show with Alex Jones, that he's a follower and a reader of my books.
So he was somebody who definitely And we have actually video testimony of sorts from the day before the event.
He really believed there was an intelligence operation, that the whole Q Anon thing was genuine.
And it led him, like I said, astray, like many others, though, that unfortunately are still in jail.
I mean, the not evil nature, absolutely peaceful nature of the Q Anon shaman, I think, has been Demonstrated, of course, by those videos that Tucker Carlson published.
And I think that cost him, in part, probably his position at Fox in the end, that exposing of what happened really on the 6th of January.
We are still to this day, most of us journalists and people who are involved in the research that day we are not allowed to really have all the footage that Tucker really had the possibility of viewing.
However, like I said in my book, the topic in particular was of relevance because it's to do with, of course, the rise of this AI quantum reality which soon the rise of this AI quantum reality which soon is going to take over the world because the governance of cyber-Satan is upon us.
And the fact that we have This whole, you know, this whole war thing, the never-ending wars we had, the Ukrainian war has not even ended actually.
It started to fade out maybe in the support that we are giving here from the West, but it's still continuing and it's probably going to continue for many years, but they needed absolutely another war to amplify this great reset, which, I mean, it's very interesting for people who We don't know that.
One of the subjects, as you know, Volume 9, one of the subjects is, of course, once again, the relevance of the Sabbatean Frankist heresy.
When we think about the Sabbatean Frankist, well, we think about Ukraine and Gaza.
And why is that?
Because Jacob Frank was born in Ukraine.
Because the first guy who actually accepted and glorified Sabbatai Zevi was Nathan of Gaza, who himself then, in turn, nominated Gaza as the holy city of the Sabbateans.
Not only Gaza was a stronghold of the Nice Tempers prior to that, but it became after the stronghold of the Sabbateans.
Here we see also what happens now when we have this energy that emanates almost from a place, this energy that of course Some might call morphic resonance.
Morphic resonance is a concept which is much more new than the egregore concept which I described in my past books.
But I wanted to talk about it in Confession 9 because Rupert Sheldrake who is still alive, he's born in 1942, and he's a controversial proponent of this concept, has talked about it in his book, Science Sets Free 10 Paths to New Discovery.
I picked up a citation from his book, which I found interesting, describing also the very
the very origin of what became, in a way, the Royal Society, but also Freemasonry, in that order of society described by Sir Francis Bacon, and so in his very important and still relevant book, A New Atlantis, that has inspired institutions that have unfortunately been evil, because
In a way or another, we know that this organized way, academic way, has never really produced real freedom, but rather the control of information, the control of knowledge.
However, in the idea of Sir Francis Bacon, he talks about Of course, New Atlantis, based on the old Atlantis, based on that golden age of Atlantis, which I also, as you know, talk very much about in Volume 9 of My Confessions.
And it's basically important to understand how Atlantis, but also Sir Francis Bacon's vision of a scientific priesthood has been now realized on a global scale, because nowadays man puts all his confidence in science as almost a religion, rather than putting his confidence like it used to be in the
In the old days in God, there is this misplaced way of... So, in my book, I also explain how this Atlantean Golden Age is really the myth that the Illuminati want to rediscover every time, especially now that they have the AI.
They think that that will really bring them to a new golden age where they can achieve immortality.
Because one of the things that a golden age, you know, for humanity promises is that we will live a much longer life.
However, that, as you know, is not always the case.
And the golden age that these people are envisioning is mostly for the elite, not really for most of us.
that will be probably enslaved by what's going to manifest.
So we had, of course, the pandemic.
We had, of course, a reality which is now manifesting through two wars, probably many more to come.
And in the end, that is built so we can do a great reset of everything
But reset also means king set, king Satan, and it means also giving ourselves to this society of technocrats that obviously were inspired by the Atlantean myth of Sir Francis Bacon, and that's why It influenced the prestigious Royal Society.
And also influenced, of course, the concept that very much we have the concept of the invisible college of this new science technocrats that can maybe become behind the scenes in charge of everything and anything beyond the democracies.
And we see that this already with, you mentioned Noel Harari, member of the Davos Illuminati that I, as you know, I have already exposed very much in their Occult Nature in Volume 7 of my confessions.
Now, with Volume 9, I'm trying to sum up really the In seven steps, in seven chapters, what are the dominant problems of this new world order and why we should reject
All these new technologies that in the end are going to bring us close to necromancy, for example, the fact that mind transfer capabilities are already probably available, as well as the fact that they want to use the AI to impersonate the dead.
And so we become immortal in a way.
But who are we talking with, really, if not cyber safe?
But who are we talking with when it came to Spiritism, you see?
Because Spiritism itself manifested from the 1850s onwards and then generated the very base of what became the Theosophical Society.
And in this book, as you know, I talk very much about, we talked about, just a moment ago, This link with the Sabbatean Franks to Ukraine and also Gaza, but also Islam, because Shabbatai Zevi in 1666 converted, at least officially, to Islam.
But then, of course, he started this trend of the Crypto-Jews, of the Dome in Turkey, Who still to this day, in their homes, practice what are the tenets of Sabbatean Judaism, which is, of course, a perversion of real Judaism.
Because, like I explain, of course, in my book, their quest, and of course, not only in this book, but as you know, also in Volume 8, because the Sabbatean Frankists are the dominant force of Hollywood, of the music business, of the cinema business.
Through sin they want to achieve redemption, a redemption of some kind.
So I've tried with this book really to synthesize but also to insert new elements.
I leave it to you now for other questions because I'm sure you have read and maybe want to ask me something.
Well, concerning the QAnon religion aspect, I think there's an important distinction in that.
Do you think that a human intelligence directed an artificial intelligence to create QAnon?
Or do you think that an artificial intelligence did it on its own?
Because, I mean, regardless, it's impressive.
But the latter would be terrifying.
Which do you think it is?
First of all, as you know, my book is built on a ground foundation that is the belief that we are at the moment using retroengineering that somehow has filtered from Roswell onwards and maybe earlier and has made us then in some way
the victims of a Trojan horse, because if you are using this technology but you're not really the the primal owner or the inventor of it, you might really fall for a trap, like it seems that's where it's leading to.
The fact that, like I said already in Volume 7, and then I repeated in Volume 9, In the 1950s, they coined the AI, they elaborated the AI concept right after these UFOs were discovered.
Well, the implications, of course, are very bad for mankind.
Now, the fact that QAnon was created or not by AI that is self-aware, and then at that point, maybe independent from mankind.
I don't think that's the case.
I think that actually, in the case of QAnon, we're talking about a PSYOP that was deliberately conducted using the AI from the classical psychological operation battalions that we see in places like Fort Bragg.
So I think that we are not yet at the level of the quantum computer reality, which also is going to manifest even further the cyber satan reality and probably become completely detached from mankind and do their own decisions, which will then in turn probably mean the elimination of part of mankind.
Because we have seen every time we leave the AI, even the AI which is generated by our normal algorithmic computer setup, not yet the quantum one, already seems to be quite hateful towards mankind.
When we have let the AI think for itself, it always seems to be very critical of what we as humans do, because we are not perfect in the eyes of the AI.
Now, perfection.
We are actually perfect in the eyes of God, because we are built in his image.
But when it comes down to the AI, the AI, of course, is pushing another agenda, which is the anti-God agenda, of course.
And as mankind is manifesting more and more the concept of becoming their own gods, which is the concept that the Illuminati have been pushing for a very long time,
I tried, at least in this book, to make people understand, first of all, from the very beginning of the book, that the Illuminati exist and not only they exist, but they publish essays, documents relevant to what is happening right now.
They actually have their own concepts regarding the development of the AI that they deem as ethical and moral in their own view.
And for that reason, I cited, as you know, Dr. Laos, who is himself connected to Giuliano Di Bernardo.
But one other thing about Dr. Laos is that Dr. Laos is also connected with Alan Greenfield, which is somebody which I cited in Invisible Master, which is somebody Who has been first experiencing the OTO, arriving to the rank of Bishop in the Ecclesia Gnostica Cattolica, but then Leaving the O.T.O.
and creating his own branch, Mystery School, but he is also a known ufologist.
He is also somebody who has always mixed, you know, ufology and occultism, which is two subjects that not everybody really puts together.
So in this book, I obviously showed for the first time in Volume 9, what the Illuminati are really doing behind the scenes to advance transhumanism.
But having said advancing transhumanism, it's also at times in the disguise of transgenderism, because Our society is descending in some state of perpetual evil, but it's also descending in a state of chaos because of this very weird new beliefs, now woke, woke, we call it woke, but what is really woke?
So when it comes down, From transgenderism, let's say, to transhuman.
Actually, there is even a book by a guy called Martin Romblatt who talks about, who made a whole manifesto in 2011 about, you know,
What is a male and a female and how then we have to embrace the scientific developments as transgenderism, how we need to liberate ourself and then also how we need to live without any boundaries of the sex in a way of an avatar.
I mean, these whole concepts are, of course, quite sickening for a normal human being.
But in my book, as you know, I synthesize and I explained also how we have approached What the Christians, of course, call the Omega Point.
The Alpha and the Omega.
The moment, of course, that I described right now.
It's the moment in which we are merging humans with the machine.
We are merging with the AI.
The AI is developing into a sentient being.
That was all things that were very much Envisioned by a guy called Pierre Teilhard de Cardin, as you mentioned already in Volume 6, I mentioned Volume 7.
He's been a guy I like to mention because nobody really knows about him outside of the Catholic Church or certain circles of the Catholic Church.
He was a Jesuit, But he was also a very controversial figure at the time before the Second Vatican Council.
With the Second Vatican Council, which for those who are not Catholics, was a great act of reform within the Catholic Church that took place in the first half of the 60s.
After that, the Church was never the same again.
And that's what really produced the Pope that we have nowadays, which is Pope Francis.
How they embrace, suddenly, something that is very far from Christianity, because they want to eventually, like I explained in the past, especially in Volume 7, the one-word religion concept, which also marries with the project of Freemasonry, of course.
Because Freemasonry always said, we are not a religion, but in reality tends to put together and branch together all religions in the Lodge.
The fact that after the 1813 union of the ancient and the moderns, like I explained in volume five, there is then a transformation of Freemasonry that of course embraces not only all the Abrahamic faiths there is then a transformation of Freemasonry that of course embraces not only all the Abrahamic faiths but gradually all, every single faith, even the Satanists who were capable, for
I mean, it's completely insulting towards every single religion, if you read that.
which is a completely obscene and heretical, how can I describe it?
I mean, it's completely insulting towards every single religion if you read that.
So in this book, I wanted to really explain the importance that transhumanism has in the context also of alchemy, which is a concept.
I mean, alchemy is the royal art.
It's something that the Illuminati have never really abandoned, the idea of manifesting something that, of course, they call gold.
But what is this gold?
And so, in the end, the philosopher's stone, its purpose has always been to become immortal, The fixation with immortality has always followed the search of what they call the Gnosis.
Gnosis, the knowledge.
And in this book, as you know, there is a ferocious critic against Gnosticism in all its forms.
So I hope that that was a comprehensive answer for your question.
It was.
In terms of the, so talking about, you know, the Illuminati, how they publish things and how they, they're really not in hiding.
It really is out in the open, you know, you have like the, I think you mentioned, uh, you know, Katy Perry and Dark Horse or, you know, from what I was always aware of, even, you know, growing up, um, maybe I just had weird conspiracy minded friends, but It was always kind of like an accepted thing.
There was like, you know, the halftime show at the Super Bowl.
It's like the most number of eyes.
And it's always like oddly dark and satanic, right?
And it's pretty undeniable.
So in terms of that, along the lines of some sort of... Well, I mean, I think that with that question, I think the answer is more to be found in Volume 8, which is really explaining how gradually they came out of the closet, to use a term that I probably don't know very much.
But that's how it is.
I mean, they came out of the closet with their real beliefs, while maybe 100 years ago, 70 years ago, 80 years ago, whatever, 50 years ago, they gradually had to, you know, they might hide things more.
Because, you know, in the fifties, what was really the belief, the American dream, the perfect family, everything, you know, it wasn't really about some sick, I don't know, Barbie, weird brainwashing for the masses.
But also it wasn't like we were proposing, you know, the family model as being evil, They're almost proposing the classical model as something that is civil.
It's like, oh, You are basically still following the old values.
You have to embrace the new values.
And the new values is basically, you know, a man and a man and a woman and a woman can, of course, adopt the children.
A man can become pregnant.
I don't know.
Maybe they think they can in their sick view of things.
It's like, of course, destroying the classic family unit in favor of something that is not defined, because in the end, like I try to explain in my books, the concept behind it is the depopulation, so anything that helps in the depopulation game, that's what they They are pushing.
That's why it serves the purpose that transgenderism concept serves two purposes.
The one of getting the people used to transformation, body transformation, bodily transformations, you know, a bit like, and this is a subject, as you know, that I touch very much in Volume 8, piercing, tattoos, One of the great instigators was Genesis Peorage, and he was somebody who at the end of his life was exchanging body parts with his companion, who was his wife.
He was transforming into a woman, but she was also borrowing body parts.
It was really weird.
And of course, in the end, he died rather young, in the middle, I think, of the pandemic, at the beginning or in the middle, I don't remember, but Genesis Pierogi was definitely a great instigator of this trend that now everybody you see follows.
A million tattoos, a million body piercings here, there and everywhere.
And it goes along with the transgenderism, which is always mutilating, transforming your body.
People putting horns in their head, deforming their body in unnatural ways.
All this is simply an appetizer for what we're going to see in 10, 15, 20 years from now, where people are going to be walking around with
bionic legs, arm, whatever, things that are completely unnatural maybe, and at the same time they will be, of course, you know, they will have to be treated normally, but that is when the man will start merging with the machine.
We will see some very weird things happening, also in the actual look of the person.
I think that A lot of sci-fi movies already show what happens when man starts merging with the machine.
Now it's of course still in the realm of sci-fi, but in the next 10, 15, 20 years we will actually see it in the States.
And so, just normalizing this satanic reality, which is not built in the image of God, but is built in the image of Satan.
Because basically, in the end, he is the main inspirator and instigator.
And that's why I explained in my book also how the alien element, the demonic element, has been very important into inspiring the technology that we are using, and so the retroengineering.
But even before that, to tell you the truth, the great inventors of the past, and I talk about that in "Invisible Master", The great inventors of the past were clearly always inspired by something that wasn't of this world.
Suddenly they had an inspiration, an illumination, like Isaac Newton with the apple, but in reality there was something more to it.
And in fact, Newton wasn't really a normal kind of guy in the sense that he was a guy who was actually an alchemist behind the scenes.
He was working night and day on trying to understand when Jesus would come back and the messianic era would start and all the rest.
So he had a pragmatic side, but he had also this other side.
And that is where we are now.
We are now with a society which has been built around us with the values that are the fake values that the masses need to aspire to, need to follow, which is pure materialism.
Forgetting really the connections with the religions, with our faith, with our tradition.
And so, you know, when suddenly we have what is happening now that is obviously connected with the end times, people still can't grasp this reality in the right way.
They become still entrenched in divisions, the Jews, the Muslims, the Christians, this, that, fight each other, this army, this other army, this terrorist, this other terrorist.
It's all a game, let's say, built around us of division and lies, in which of course the Illuminati and the Freemasons are a unified force.
Who doesn't get divided by all this, who reasons beyond the common reasoning of the man of the street, who is simply kept on a leash and pulled here and there by the media, who are obviously working for the propaganda machine.
Now, in this book, as you know, I also talk about the fact now we start having, you mentioned also Harari, talking about text holy text generated by the eye but what about all the news generated by the eye which already we are starting to to see and that possibly in the coming years is gonna generate more and more
Confusion and propaganda on a scale never seen before, because the AI, once it's programmed in a certain way, or knows what to do, will push us to believe all kinds of things.
And suddenly we will have, you know, events that people will be like, oh, outrage!
But maybe they have just been generated artificially and there is nothing true about it.
The thing is this, with what is happening now with the development of the AI, it just needs a malevolent government to then really screw everybody up, because they can build all kinds of lies with this new technology.
We go back to what you mentioned earlier, the moment in which the AI will start reasoning for itself, will start pushing its own agenda, will start pushing that alien agenda.
Which, you know, Harari seems to embrace, or at least seems to know very well it's an alien agenda.
He himself calls it an alien agenda.
So I think about the The problem here is, first of all, to define where all this evil is coming from, who is producing all this evil, where it comes from, and that's why I wrote this book.
Even for the people, as you know, who have not read my previous book, because this book can be read on its own.
So I hope that that will make people realize that we don't have that much time to go off the grid and make certain decisions.
Otherwise, you know, you can ignore reality, you can keep on living in your illusion, and then one day you will find yourself like those pacifists dancing in a rave, and those people will be used as... passed into a meat grinder of lies, deception, and of course there were some of them, most, a lot of them, 260, probably more, died.
And you will be left with, you know, what happened just now.
Because even, you know, to believe in the version of reality that they're putting us through regarding this latest event.
I mean, I'm using it as an example.
We can, of course, use the same thing for Ukraine, for all the events that have been happening since 9-11.
events that leave us wondering.
So what is really their own real agenda here?
Because most of the people have been led to believe that, you know, we then had to go to war in Afghanistan, in Iraq and solve all these problems.
No, we haven't solved anything.
These wars are now on hold.
They can be reawakened in any moment, simply for the convenience of the military-industrial complex, but it's like going back to that George Orwell concept exposed in 1984, which war is never-ending war, is instrumental to keep the system going.
So, ultimately, in my book I explain the concept around the quantum prince of darkness, and how we might survive it accordingly if, of course, we understand what the Jesuits and the Sabbatean minions are planning for us, and who
I think I was talking probably yesterday with a Jewish friend of mine, he was wondering if actually most of the Jewish people displaced around the earth know about the Sabbatean Frankish heresy, because most of them don't.
It's, you know, even within Catholicism, Only in the last few decades, mostly because now in the last 10 years, because of Pope Francis, people are talking about the Jesuits.
But when I used to denounce the Jesuits 20 years ago, when I used to denounce the Jesuits before the arrival of Pope Francis, in the Catholic world, the Jesuits were not even discussed because Those who detain real power don't like to be exposed or discussed in any way.
And so the same concept is valid for the Sabbatean Frankists.
They are a reality within Judaism, but very rarely you will hear rabbis discussing them because they are afraid of exposing themselves.
And so, and the same can be said with the Jesuits.
These days, if you criticize the Pope or the Jesuits, even if you are the Bishop, like the guy in Texas... Or the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, that Bishop gets, you know, personally reprimanded by the Pope, and it's like, what the f...
Yeah, so the thesis of perpetual indulgence is something that, as you know, I cited in my confessions also, because I find it outrageous.
I mean, here we have They are portraying Jesus as homosexual.
It's a blasphemy, of course.
The guy from the Six of Perpetual Indulgences, Paul, dancing with a Christ-like figure on a cross.
And then you have somebody who instead is actually criticizing them and he gets it.
But in my book, I also explain how How a film from a long time ago, which is The Holy Mountain, had envisioned Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain.
And Jodorowsky himself is also of Ukrainian origin, Ukrainian Jew.
It's very interesting, also, that when it comes to Madame Blavatsky, Madame Blavatsky was born in Ukraine, and her master was Max Theon, who was a Sabbatean, Polish Sabbatean.
So, I mean, we have here a connection between all these things that is quite amazing, especially nowadays when you have all this information on the Internet.
Oh, the Khazars!
What are you talking about?
I mean, the Khazars?
And then, you know, I make it clear to people, okay, let's go and expose what the Khazars are, what is the reality behind the Khazars.
Instead, in this book of mine, I expose the reality behind what's really happening in Ukraine with names of various secret societies, as you know, that literally built the Ukrainian identity from nothing in two centuries.
Because it didn't exist, the Ukrainian identity.
So, it's like, and I think that in my book I have really exposed for the first time all this reality about Freemasonry's involvement in both Ukraine and Russia, and how Ukraine was literally
And brought together in the 90s after the fall of the Soviet Union, and they were initiated in Odessa by the Italian Grandmaster Giuliano Di Bernardo, who later on became the founder of the Academy of the Illuminati.
And also the external order known as the Order of Dignity.
And in fact, nowadays Ukraine celebrates every year the Day of Dignity.
So it's all interconnected.
It's all basically the product of this new world disorder.
And I hope that people appreciate at least some clarity by reading my book.
And I think that those people who say, oh, I don't need to read this book.
I can only see the videos or I can only read the articles.
Which I invite everybody to read my articles on leonzagami.com, which is, of course, they're very useful.
But the book, as you know, goes much deeper because there is simply not the space to publish things like this on the Internet, where the interest that one guy has, the attention span, is really limited to one or two pages.
When these objects, as you can notice from my book, require a much more in-depth explanation to also be taken seriously.
You see, one thing I noticed about my books is that since I started to write them, it's been increasingly difficult for the enemy to Criticize me, to debunk me, because of all the material, the documentation, the serious sources involved, academic and such, and then they don't know, you know.
Before I came out with these books, Believe Me, Thomas, and I was, you know, the first few years of my confessions online, when I started back in 2006, I was attacked left, right and center.
These days there is people, even amongst the intelligence community, yesterday I received a mail from a Freemason, a very high level Freemason, who said, well, it's been a long time since the Ed King days.
Now, Ed King was an idiot who has a website called Masonic Info, I think still exists, they say.
I think his response is, this Ed King is from the Grand Lodge of Maine.
And basically, when I came out with my confessions of the Illuminati online, I started to, you know, explain what I was about, this, that, and, you know, I did it, you know, also trying to explain.
I didn't really give much importance to, you know, if I was operating in an irregular or a regular lodge.
Who cares?
You know, I mean, they consider, for example, the Grand Orient de France irregular, or the Grand Lodge de France, but these two obediences have a lot of influence.
Masonically, not only that, but this Ed King, he attacked me in a way that was outrageous.
And now, after all these years, the people who go and read The Leo Zagami page, and they read about it because everything I said actually materialized.
I proved my point.
I proved that actually who I was.
I proved that I can go in a regular, irregular, whatever lodge and that they are all connected.
But at that time, you know, these people, you know, I think was like, we offer only factual information designed to educate you about Freemasonry.
Ooh, okay.
And Leo Zagami is a guy who just likes to wear fancy dresses and high degrees and whatever.
And the Monte Carlo Lodge wasn't really a regular lodge.
This wasn't a regular, or this was the bylaws of the lodge.
All BS, because in the end, after all these years, and we are in the year 2023, those statements against my person didn't really age well.
Because I then demonstrated interviewing regular people, Jan Sinclair, people from Masonic Company.
I was involved again in Freemasonry with the Sikhs.
I did all kinds of things.
And this was typical of, especially, you know, when it comes out of a leptard state like Maine, what can you expect?
But nowadays a lot of Freemasons laugh about it.
Themselves!
I mean, because, you know, I mean, you want to say, "Lio Zagami is a fake myth, a conspiracy theory," but in reality, in 2023, I demonstrated that I'm not all that.
And actually, I had to flee Italy in 2019 because I was really in, in, having some serious problem and threats against me and my family.
I participated to the Italian elections in 2013.
In 2013, I was then involved with the civil arrest of the pitchfork revolution.
I was then involved, of course, politically, but then I was also involved in the establishment of Italians for Trump.
That was the only organization outside of America that pushed Donald, the candidacy, even during the primaries.
And then we were recognized, in fact, by people like Steve Bannon and others, also from the Trump Organization.
And you can just Google Leo Zegami, Italians for Trump, and you will find even the Huffington Post and other papers.
I think that it's been very important and relevant to continue persisting in this work, and then to bring out books that are more and more relevant to the times we are living now.
And of course, there are also books that I consider very far from being debunked in any way, shape or form, Because, as you know, I'm also very careful to cite and to report those sources accurately, so then people can see what kind of sources is Leo Zagami using.
And when you go and see, you see these are serious sources.
Sometimes they are actually sources from the enemy itself, so that the enemy, the mainstream news, If you have the right type of analysis, in Italy we say, if you don't have prosciutto su gnocchi, which means putting prosciutto over your eyes, you can actually see it.
Thank you so much for actually making these questions so I can actually explain myself even better on how I built this book.
No, it's great.
Yeah, I was going to say, I was going to ask about, is that why they're coming out more on their face with UFO disclosure as sort of the, I guess, revelation of the method?
That is another interesting, you know, I remember 10 years ago when I I started to publish also after, of course, I published my first book, I started to include immediately the UFO subject, the alien subject, also treated from a Masonic, occultistic, Illuminati point of view.
And then later on, I also published Invisible Master.
I published, of course, many books also in the English language, like Volume 4, that touch on this subject.
And, you know, I remember there was this Freemason called Joelle Magaldi, who used to be the worshipful master of an important lodge in Rome, said, oh well, Leo is very good, especially when he talks about aliens and UFOs.
Always kind of, almost kind of wanting to diminish the relevance of what I was, because I was somebody who believed in these things, so I was an idiot.
Now in 2023, will the same guy say the same thing?
Probably not, because now we have actually discussions in Congress, discussions at the highest level, videos circulating, and witnesses giving their testimony.
I tried my best with this book to explain what The Illuminati and what I have perceived within my own experience within the New World Order and the Illuminati, what these things are and how they operate.
And I'm glad that now, suddenly, it's a subject that is taken a lot more seriously, I'd say.
No, absolutely.
But of course, if you ask me why they're doing it, well, they're doing it because there is a disclosure project.
And in fact, in my book, as you know, I've been very detailed about the specifics of this disclosure project.
I mean, especially the timeline of the events that took place this year.
I guess, lastly, because I know we're coming up on an hour, is, you know, you talk about, you know, going off the grid and becoming self-sustainable and, you know, having enough food and water for a couple months and all that good stuff.
I guess on a bigger picture, that seems to be like it's, and those are all good things to do.
I'm not arping on them.
Do you think that that's just delaying the inevitable?
Are we at a final showdown?
And sure, we could go run off into the woods and maybe survive for a couple more generations, but are we just kicking Armageddon down the...
Because, you see, this kind of attitude that you are kind of describing is the attitude of somebody who is not a believer, who doesn't have any more faith in mankind, but also especially in God and in the project that God announced after the coming of his Son on Earth and the possibility that he will return or
I mean, if you see it in the eyes of the Jews, they are still expecting the Messiah, so it will be the first time.
And the same can be said also for the other exponents of the Brahmic faith, like the Muslims, who also believe it will be Jesus who will show up in the end time.
The actual manifestation of all this negativity, of all these problems, well, the problems will be sorted out once we have a strong belief in God, and God will, of course, once again show himself through his Son that we are
going to overcome the diabolical plan that is transforming this reality in a living hell.
So, I mean, as you can see... I see what you're saying.
The moment in which you say, yeah, we have to go off the grid.
Yes, but we're going off the grid because we are trying to establish the future kingdom of God.
We're not just going off the grid so we can survive.
It's not about surviving.
It's about defeating the enemy, which is Satan.
And which is manifesting now with this new modality, which is cyber safety.
I see what you're saying.
I guess I was looking at it as sort of a defeatist, like, what's the point?
And yeah, no, that's what you just said is brilliant.
It's not about surviving.
That is also the message of my book and of the previous books, which, of course, you know, I noticed one thing that people, when they hold this book, some traditionalist Christians, in particular, see all this satanic symbolism.
They say, why is Zagami parading all this satanic symbolism on the cover of a book?
Because this is the reality in which we are living now.
It's simply portraying a reality here.
It might not be a reality which we want to see, but inevitably, if we want to become aware of it, we need to see.
So the symbolism is very particular on the cover of this book.
I know it's not for everyone.
Some people said, if you made a more Christian version of your cover, you'll probably sell three times more books Well, but I would also probably betray the actual significance of this book.
It's not about showing you yet the magnificence of the King of God, because the King of God has not yet manifested in his In its magnificence.
It's not even started yet.
We are fighting.
We are at that stage which is still of controversy and of people fighting each other towards that Armageddon you cited a moment ago, but we're not yet there.
Okay.
I mean, you will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet to come.
I mean, we're not there yet.
That was a good little pep talk I needed.
I like that line, it's not about surviving, it's about defeating them.
If you think that because we don't have the appropriate technology we will be defeated, then you don't realize that the main technology that has been given to us by God is right here.
Still, we will be able to defeat the machine if we don't integrate with the machine.
That's why the next years, and that's why the importance of understanding the evil of transhumanism and avoiding embracing the machine in that way is fundamental.
And that's why I give it so much importance in this book.
I needed that pep talk, Leo.
I needed that.
You just cheered me up.
I was feeling a little down today, feeling a little depressed about every, the last couple of days, really.
And you just- I think a lot of people will feel like you, but when they go through the seven steps of this book and they realize that in the end, these seven steps are simply steps that mankind was probably meant to take because they're part of prophecy.
Now, it's a little bit like saying, oh, you know, I sustain, for example, the Palestinian cause, the Jewish people are the invaders, and all that.
I don't sustain either one or the other.
I simply say it's happening because God made it happen this way, made Israel manifest once again to fulfill prophecy.
And of course, some people will say that the evangelical and I myself did a special report on Saturday about all this explaining how there was also the evangelical side which was very heavy in influencing also the Zionist movement in reclaiming their land and then there was a sort of union of the two forces in the creation of Israel.
But the thing is that we are at the moment of time In which, if we start criticizing this or that, we miss the full picture.
And that is important.
We don't need to miss the full picture.
The full picture is the manifestation of the Messiah on Earth that is going to lead a rebellion against these forces.
I don't know how long that will take, but eventually we will arrive to the point in which we will be able to shape a new reality and the famous Kingdom of God will finally be delivered to mankind.
Of course, not with the control of the AI, but the control of man made in the image of God.
That is not the point of view of the Illuminati.
They want to put everything under the control of the machine, of the AI, so their new Atlantean order It's destined to fail even before it starts, in my eyes.
Of course, people will see these magnificent cities raised from nowhere and made out of technology, AI, smart this, smart that, and everything smarter, but in the end, it is actually the smartest thing is to avoid them.
If you know the smartest thing is to avoid them.
Avoid the shiny treat.
Yes, and so we are here now in 2023, taking position and preparing for what's going to come next.
But without, you know, the kind of pessimism that the atheist will have, that the person with no soul, with no belief will have.
We have soul, we still have soul, fortunately.
We are not yet completely zombified.
We are not yet robots controlled by the AI.
But that's going to change.
That's going to change.
Because when are you going to start letting the AI inside your life?
24-7.
We already have the AI inside our life because we just have it in our pockets.
We have our smartphone.
That is already the AI creeping in.
And I'm talking about when they start offering us, you know, the computer brain interface, the fact that we can maybe merge with the machine.
That is the moment in which we have to draw a line and say, okay, I want to build a society that is different from that.
You can take the mark of the beast.
You can follow the Mark of the Beast, because we already know where it's going to lead.
It's going to lead to failure.
It's going to lead to slavery.
And so now that people, of course, have still a lot of time at disposal, they live here, at least in the West, quite a comfortable life.
People are not yet realizing what is about to happen, but for that reason they are increasing the pressure through events like the pandemic, then the wars, and then More wars and then of course the dystopian reality that manifests through all this, you know, the return of terrorism, the return of maybe 9-11 style events even here in the U.S.
that can then bring even further more draconian acts because the Patriot Act was an act that changed forever the way America used to be.
So imagine what can happen tomorrow.
And so they want to push a Netflix kind of reality.
Netflix is the propaganda of this whole thing, just in a nutshell.
You can go there and you can see everything that is wrong with our society.
Just follow, you know, all those TV series, those movies, and you can see that in the end the message is constantly anti-Christian, constantly evil, and it's simply part of this new Atlantis that they have been building based on the blind belief that science can solve all problems.
But we have seen Already with Dr. Fauci, with everything that happened, that science actually, it's been used against us.
And if you believe blindly in science, you might really turn out to have a few problems.
We see it constantly.
Sadly, through the deaths that you have on a daily basis from young people who simply believed in the lies of promises of these vaccines and all the rest.
Yeah, it's...
I'm still stuck on that sentence.
Don't go for survival, go for defeating them.
Absolutely, because you see, the moment in which we have understood where they are going, to follow them means being like them.
So we don't follow them, but then the problem will arise because then they will say, oh, Well then, you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't do this.
And then at one point, what are you going to do?
You're going to have to detach.
This is going to also happen after 2024.
If there is not a legitimate election, the solution That unfortunately might take place, it will be the separation of the Union.
Some states will go in one direction, other states will go in another direction.
Within a state they can start shaping in clubs of people who might rebel and challenge the state.
I mean, there might start to be some chaotic situations arising after 2024.
If we don't have a real democratic election, and that is what really Donald J. Trump has addressed recently.
I said I'm ready to go to jail because, you know, he doesn't want to accept the gag order, but at the same time, he's also saying, I want to bring back democracy with my election.
I want to bring back democracy after we saw a guy in the White House who is everything but democratic, who pushes the most hideous beliefs on us.
And even makes, you know, and even places a banner there, Bidenomics behind him, like it is a great success when everybody's paying more for everything.
Everybody is actually not managing to get to the end of the month like they used to.
So I think that when it comes down to politics, at least for what it's worth, because I don't That the rest of the Republican Party or any party or anybody arrives in Washington can be saved from the swamp.
It's unfortunate, but that's the case.
We have, and I will repeat this until the elections, a maverick, a guy who is exceptional, who wants to at least give us another possibility, who is not corruptible as the rest of them.
And he's actually risking his own money and his own assets to pursue this political game.
But apart from him, the political scene, it's going to be replaced by the AI within 10 years.
They are all puppets that soon are going to, you know, all these puppets who you see in Congress soon are going to be there using for most of their speeches, chat GPT.
Yeah.
Okay.
But once that is kind of like, it can last a few years, but in 10 years from now, people will say, we don't need you anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cut out the middleman.
So, yeah, we're going to have directly, basically, the AI taking care of most of what the lawmakers do, and at the same time also what the civil servants do.
So, in Volume 9 of My Confessions, I wanted to address all this, and I wanted to make people realize that we don't have much time to address all this.
Yeah, and I'd recommend everyone go get it.
The link to it is in the description.
Thank you so much, Joe.
And of course, I will be looking forward to our next interview.
Yes, sir.
I was going to ask, is Volume 10 on the horizon?
Or do you want to do another one on this?
Or just any topic?
I'm kind of working on something.
I'm working on something.
It takes a few months before the concept is born.
It's kind of like I start putting together things.
But you see, 2024 is a very important year.
And so what I want to publish in 2024 will be also very important, and I need to go along with that.
So that is the only hint I can give you.
Okay.
Okay.
We'll leave it at that then.
Mr. Zigami, I love talking to you.
You're a beautiful soul.
Thank you for that pep talk.
I needed it today.
Always a pleasure, Thomas.
Yes, sir.
Thank you to all the people who have tuned in today.
You can go on LeoZagami.com and you can find the links to my books and God bless you all.
Thank you, sir.
Guys, please go support Mr. Zagami.
Please go to the description, go to his website, go grab the book.
Leo, I love you, brother.
Thank you so much.
Guys, till next time.
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