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Exploring the Illuminati Occult Part 36: Witchcraft and the use of Supernatural Powers
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So, first of all, what is Witchcraft?
Well, Witchcraft is a belief that, you know, these days these people who completely dismiss the whole thing
But in reality, witchcraft has a really long history and some people have been taking it seriously also at the government level in places like Great Britain, for example, where in 1736 the Parliament passed an act repealing the laws against witchcraft, but imposing fines and imprisonment on people who claim to be able to use magical powers.
And this act was repealed only In 1951, and that really gave birth to then the whole Vika thing, you know, because that gave the possibility to finally be able to promote magic and witchcraft, which was forbidden, and rightly so.
However, what is witchcraft?
Well, there is three types of witchcraft that we can We can talk about here.
There is the first kind of witchcraft that, of course, we encounter in the writings of Reverend Montague Summers, who talked, of course, about witchcraft as something which is, of course, part of the war between God and Satan.
The devil and his hordes of demons of course are real in the eyes of somebody like Montague Summers, and the witches were generally possessors of some kind of power.
The second option instead that is found in Russell Hope's Robin's Encyclopedia of Witchcraft holds the whole thing to be a delusion and we can say that the first author that started to say that the whole thing could be a scam and that actually witchcraft was inexistent was somebody who almost 500 years ago
He wrote a book called The Discovery of Witchcraft.
It was called Reginald Scott and the book was published in 1584.
Immediately after, of course, we were still in full witch hunt mode.
King James, the guy who also produced that version of the Bible, which of course you all know about, wrote a book called Demonology, which also was inspired by an experience which touched him directly, which were the North Berwitch Witch Trials.
Now the Norfolk witch trials were trials that took place in 1590, where a number of people from various areas of Scotland, East Lothian, were accused of witchcraft East Lothian, were accused of witchcraft and were accused of witchcraft in the night of having practiced witchcraft in the Santana.
Andrew's Old Kirk in North Berwick on Halloween night.
This trial ran for two years.
It implicated a total number of 70 people and it became a very important event, a little bit like Here instead, in America, we had a century later, from February 1692 to May 1693, the infamous Salem Witch Trials, where more than 200 people were accused.
Now, witchcraft was, of course, used at times to accuse people also in an unjust way, especially women.
We see, though, that with women there is really a kind of idea of witchcraft that we don't find with men.
In fact, the word, the etymology of witch, you know, when you talk about witches, you talk about females.
When you talk about male, you talk about the wizard, maybe you can say the wizard.
But let's understand better the etymology of witchcraft, because, of course, witchcraft might not be recognized anymore here in the West as a problem, here in the West as well.
But in Gambia, for example, just to mention one country, there is still people who up until recently have been accused of witchcraft.
And this is only one of the many countries around the world that were still victims.
There is witch hunts, and I'm not talking about witch hunts in the sense of going after Donald J. Trump.
I'm talking about real and proper witch hunts.
Hundreds accuse witchcraft persecuted in Gambia.
This is an article.
Up to a thousand people in Gambia have been taken in 2009 from their villages by witch doctors to a secret detention centers and forced to drink hallucinogenic concoctions.
The liquid they are forced to drink has led many to have serious kidney problems.
Two people are known to have died in kidney failure.
The incidents are part of a witch hunting campaign spreading terror throughout the country.
and even Amnesty International intervened, witch doctors, and I witnessed Amnesty International, the witch doctors who they say are from neighboring Guinea are accompanied by police, army, national intelligence agents.
So, I mean, of course, when it comes to Africa, then, you know, you see, even back then, in 2009, you are seeing what a long time ago happened really in Europe, where, like I said, and also when you are seeing what a long time ago happened really in Europe, where, like I said, and also when the phenomena started to fade, to fade from Europe, it was still alive in the Americas, like the Salon Witch
the So here we are to define what witchcraft is and understand a little bit more of it and, you know, when it comes to a witch hunt, you know, witch hunt is a punishment for malevolent magic which is addressed in some of the earliest law codes which are preserved in both ancient Egypt and in Babylon.
For example, the The famous code of Amurabi, which really is at the foundation, it's like the cornerstone of our civilization in some way, 18th century, so 18th century before Christ, prescribes that if a man has put a spell upon another man and it's not yet justified, he upon whom the spell is laid should go to the holy river "...into the Holy River shall he plunge.
If the Holy River overcomes him and he is drowned, the man who put the spell upon him shall take possession of his house.
If the Holy River declares him innocent, and he remains unharmed, the man who laid the spell shall be put to death." He that plunged into the river should take possession of the house of him who laid the spell upon him." This is, I repeat, the code of Hammurabi and is about probably one of the first forms of witch hunt.
Then we find, of course, the witch-hunts much more popular and known to us in that period, the early modern period, if you want to call it that, which goes from about the year 1400 to the Enlightenment age, 1782.
Because with the age of reason, they basically decided that there was no need to go after people who made use of magic in such an aggressive way.
Even if, like I said, the law, for example, in Great Britain stayed in place until 1951, so there was still a law.
So, for example, the activities of Aleister Crowley were deemed Theoretically legal, no?
Now, 40,000 to 60,000 people were killed due to the suspicion of practicing witchcraft during the time frame 1400 to 1782.
1400 to 1782.
It's said that black magic and these practices that started to then become punished by the Inquisition, because before that the Catholic Church didn't really punish because before that the Catholic Church didn't really punish up until the 13th century anybody for this kind of, because there wasn't in their eyes and the Eresi
But then when, for example, Gnosticism started to resurface with the Cators, the Albigens, and it became also a dogmatic matter.
We can say that basically, throughout the Medieval, people think about, you know, witchcraft and the Sabbath as almost the Medieval era, but that's not correct.
Eventually, we call it in it the Alta Medioevo, which is the last part of the medieval time.
But mainstream Christian doctrine denied the belief, the existence of witches and witchcraft, condemning the whole thing as pagan superstition until then.
But the work of the famous Dominican, Tommaso Aquinas, and here we have to say that the Dominicans then became the driving force of the Inquisition until the arrival of the Jesuits.
Then, when the Jesuits arrived, of course, they became the Inquisitors.
They became the guys who were in charge of this Inquisition.
This is Volume 9 of my Confessions.
In this book, I cite, for example, the Compendium Maleficarum, which was one of these witch hunt manuals, which were used also to describe and to understand and identify how you can find out if somebody is practicing or not black magic.
Now, in my latest book, though, I also explain how The real evil arrives with sorcery almost over 60,000 years ago in the Ecumenical, you know, that's when things started to get, because with the arrival of sorcery.
And in any case, then, at that point, they offended God with their practices, their evil practices.
But going back to the modern witch hunts that I just showed, you know, The one in Gambia, but there is many others.
The modern witch hunts are practiced today incredibly throughout the world in places as far and distant, kind of far from one another.
Now we have India, for example.
There is still modern witch hunts going on in India.
They believe in magic.
They will go after you in India for practices that are deemed dangerous.
Papua New Guinea.
How do you say?
Papua New Guinea?
Papua New Guinea.
Papua New Guinea.
Amazon, the Amazon.
You have a lot of belief there in black magic and witchcraft.
So they're not allowed to practice it?
Well, I mean... What is that tribe stuff that they do?
Is that... No, but then, of course, we are talking about the practices that are punished because they are not allowed.
You know, if you go to the shaman of the village or you are within a religion, yeah of course it seems more normal but let's remember that then there is in this kind of tribal context those who believe very much in curses so then they will say oh you went after me you cursed me I found I don't know my photo or something with my image or you know and so
I mean, we are nowadays, when we talk about, we are not including here, of course, the phenomenon of ritual murder or ritual abuse, which, of course, we are not including, which, of course, at times is referred also as witchcraft, because it will make us go too far into other directions.
But today there is a lot of countries in which witch hunting is still present, and there is witch hunts in Malawi, in Ghana, in Gambia, in Benin, in Angola.
There is lower level witch hunts in Senegal, Nabibia, Rwanda, but we can say that the whole African continent is still very primitive, very much connected to this, you know, several African states, for example, including Cameron, reestablished witchcraft accusation in course after their independence from the colonial powers.
So the moment in which they went back to their own laws, their own sovereignty, that's when they decided that they wanted to reestablish such laws.
From Cameron, Robert Brain and Peter Geshe delivered ethnographic accounts on a child which kept scared that tended to remain largely peaceful.
After confession, the accused or self-accused children were rewarded with large amounts of meat to induce a purifying vomiting.
Now, that is almost a pleasant ending in situations which at times end up very bad instead.
Now, we are discussing here these things, you know, when it comes down to Africa and very, you know, we look down to maybe as primitive.
But when there was, for example, at the time of Elizabeth I, who was a was the one who, with John Dee, you know, and John Dee became, gave birth really to the craft of intelligence.
He was at 007.
But one of the things that Queen Elizabeth once had to ask John Dee was to lift the curse, all these curses that were done against her.
There were so many curses against the Queen, especially from Catholics, because she was not Catholic.
And apparently, It got so bad that they were like puppets made of hair and stuff and images but then at one point there was a complete misunderstanding when a guy who had made some kind of magical amulet and thing with the name written of the Queen in one of these rituals
And they thought that the ritual was addressed against the Queen and said it was something to do with somebody who wanted to get closer to some woman or something.
It was nothing to do with that.
But because there was the name of the Queen involved in this ritual and they found this name written on a pig.
Then it started a whole witch hunt.
And at that point, you know, all the people responsible for it were brought to the law.
But then in the end, it was demonstrated that the guy who was completely innocent, It wasn't his intention.
But then there was other cases, other cases, like I said, there were cases like much more serious cases, where there was the King, King James, now had his wife arriving from, I think, from Denmark.
And so these witches would gather all together to throw these curses, and then for three times the sea got so bad that they couldn't manage to get this wife.
And I think there was the involvement also of an ancestor of mine who was the tutor of King James, who at one point offered himself to go and pick her up.
You know, because he thought, OK, I can do it regardless of the witches that were gathering.
And then they were punished, apparently, arrested.
And it wasn't a joke.
I mean, so this witchcraft was taken very seriously in England.
In fact, I want to show you, there is actually still today in the UK Parliament website a voice for witchcraft.
I mean, just to show the importance that witches have had.
I've got a witchy vibe when I was in England.
I felt very witches around.
Witches and witches.
Well, definitely.
England is fuelled with, it's very Harry Potter, you can say.
So UK Parliament, witchcraft, a perceived facility to summon evil spirits and demons to do harm to others.
It was linked to religion, to the extent that the medieval church had powers to punish those who doubled in magic and sorcery.
Its priests were able to exorcise those who had become possessed by malign spirits.
So you see, it says, During the 16th century, many people believed that witchcraft, rather than the workings of God's will, offered a more convincing explanation of sudden unexpected ill fortunes, such as the death of a child, bad harvest, and the death of cattle.
Witch hunting became an obsession in some parts of the country.
Now, there is the Witchcraft Act, which passed in 1542, which defined witchcraft as a crime punishable by death.
It was repealed five years later, but restored by a new act in 1562.
And one interesting thing, this was a period of witch hunting.
So, you know, 513 witches were put on trial between 1560 and 1700.
were put on trial between 1560 and 1700.
But only 112 were executed.
The last known execution took place in Devon in 1685.
When King James, for example, himself participated to one of these witch trials, the one that we talked about earlier, which of course is one of the most known ones,
Well, in that case, there was at one point him, the king himself, interviewing these witches and interviewed so many of these witches that by the end of the trial, apparently, he understood that maybe there were a lot of these people he understood that maybe there were a lot of these people who were making a lot of things up, There was a lot of BS.
So even the king at that point, let's say King James, who is known as King James I in England at least, who definitely is an important king.
We all know and revere for his version of the Bible.
at one point understood that there was too much.
I mean, he had written a book, though, a book, Demonology.
Demonology, I want to show you the book.
It's a very important book to actually discover more about black magic.
To actually have a king writing a book about demons is pretty impressive, we can say.
But that was, let's say, also that period in which everybody was going after this black magic, these witches.
And in fact, here you can see, actually, And so, what was written in this book by the King?
Prince James, by the grace of God, King of England, Scotland, France, and Iron, defender of the fate.
And so what was written in this book by the king?
Well, this book by the king was a philosophical dissertation on contemporary necromancy, the historical relationships between the various methods of divination used from ancient black magic.
And demonology included a study of demonology and the methods that demons used to bother troubled men and to tempt demons.
The book endorses, of course, like the Marius Maleficarum, the Compendium Maleficarum, the practice of witch-hunting.
Now, the book is believed, by the way, to be one of the main sources William Shakespeare used for the production of Macbeth, which, you know, It's quite interesting because you have these witches.
Macbeth is of course one of them.
Macbeth?
Macbeth, yes.
My English is not very good in this case, but Shakespeare wrote this during the reign of James I and definitely there was a lot of magic going on.
Some say that, like I said, after these experiences with this witchcraft trial that touched him very much and everything that happened, He became a little bit more grounded, the king.
But when it comes to Macbeth, of course, we are talking about a story which really starts with the prophecy of three witches that one day say, you will become a king of Scotland.
And by the way, he was an ancestor of mine.
So this is, of course, What we are dealing with witchcraft, witchcraft dealing with supernatural powers.
Some people believe in it, some people don't.
I've talked at the beginning, you know, the first kind of witchcraft I mentioned was the one that Montague Summers believed in, which is like believing is part of this confrontation, which is also a bit my view.
There is also a view by People closer to the Aleister Crowley kind of idea.
The view of Colin Wilson that witches and their powers might be real, but the devil and his powers are not.
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah, sure.
It doesn't really work, at least for me.
It's not so...
Witchcraft also touches on minorities.
Minorities like albinos.
That's why, you know, when I saw, for example, that famous albino we talked about last week when we talked about the Opus Dei, I remembered though that the albino has always been a very much in difficulty figure within the communities all over the world.
I'm not talking only in Africa or wherever.
Albinos?
Albinos, yes.
Because of the way they are.
We never really cared about albinos in America.
We even have a movie about an albino in the 80s.
It was like a movie.
I think it was called Powder or something.
Anyway, go ahead.
No, but you're right.
I mean, but in cultures like, for example, in Albion, albino is seen as something that is linked to witchcraft, to the devil.
So then this is a Witchcraft and Human Rights, Independent Expert on Albinism.
In numerous countries around the world, witchcraft-related beliefs and practices have resulted in serious violations of human rights, including beating, banishment, cutting of body parts, amputation of limbs, torture and murder.
Beliefs and practices related to witchcraft are barely considered between different countries.
And then, of course, the victims, and in this case, we talk also about the albinos that Definitely a very unusual minority, but not only them.
So, they even talk about the fact that in September 2017, there was this workshop of the United Nations that brought at an international level, they talked about, they highlighted the virus monetization, which can believe in practices including accusations, stigma, ritual killings, before looking to identify good practices in combating the phenomenon.
Of course, we are dealing at times with primitive cultures, but also with cultures that maybe have an understanding of which we should, I mean, we shouldn't dismiss everything as just being, you know, either sexual perversions, because there was, of course, there was an archbishop at one point that during the whole, you know,
at the height of the Inquisition and the witch hunting, got at the height of the Inquisition and the witch hunting, got a lot of ladies to service And those who refuse will end up basically burned alive on the stake.
Now, there is two ways of killing a witch.
Usually the witch will be strangled and then burned.
You can throw a house on her too.
No, that was a misdemeanor.
No, but the interesting thing is that when you say, I'm going to burn you alive, it's because most of the times witches instead were strangled before they were burned.
So, being burned alive was the worst thing.
Because when you die strangled, it's okay, well, up to a certain extent, but then you get burned.
But when you die burning, apparently, it's much worse.
So, that is the specification of you, I will burn you alive.
It's a specification.
So, there is many interesting things that also regard the social, missiological significance of witchcraft belief and practice in Africa in particular.
Because Africa is still fueled with either witchcraft or neo-Pentecostal churches that have arrived in the country in the last few decades.
They of course are, you know, condemning this witchcraft and these beliefs.
Now, when it comes down to the various kinds of beliefs that I said, you know, what is witchcraft?
The witchcraft, there was also those who started around, you know, the period in which, I mean, when I talked about Montague Summers, for example, Montague Summers was this guy who nobody even knows if he was a Catholic priest or not but he portrayed himself to be one and there is various discrepancies and various claims that he actually was or not.
He started angry and then he went into a seminary.
This Montague Summers was a very particular eccentric guy.
He was pushing also his homosexuality In a time in which people were not really pushing that kind of thing, because intellectually he was very famous, Montague Summers, and then he wrote this book, but his book is regarded even by the Catholic Church as having some flaws in the translation, in the sources, and so on.
However, having said all that, Montague Summers' work was saved thanks to his boyfriend, who gave all his papers to the Jesuits, who now have the biggest archive of Montague Summers' papers at Georgetown University, thanks to the boyfriend's family, who I think in the 80s found his papers in Canada.
And then brought them, I don't know how, to Georgetown University, which, as you know, is a notorious Jesuit university.
Jesuits have always been very... I want to show an image of Montague Summers because he is a very eccentric figure, with a very eccentric hairstyle for sure, who apparently, like I said, Nobody really knows if he was or not.
He starts his book with a series of thank you to Loreto, the Holy Marys of Italy, all together and this and that and all the other.
Some people say, I mean, he claims to have assisted to black masses in England.
Some people said he actually was the guy who was celebrating black masses.
So there's a lot of controversy regarding.
He was actually a fellow, I think, of the Royal I mean, he was quite known also for his literary scholarship, and he was quite known for having written plays.
He was a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature in 1916.
He knew Alistair Crowley, of course.
Summers compiled three anthologies of supernatural stories, the Supernatural Omnibus, the Grimoire and the Supernatural Stories, but, like I said, the one that, of course, I'm referring to today is a book which, still today, even the Catholics say, yes, it has some faults, but it has also some values.
Even some Catholic critics have to admit it has some value.
And it definitely is a very interesting reading.
I mean, there is some very interesting stuff in Montague Summers' book, History of Witchcraft.
Here we go.
And of course, 1926, the departure of the Sabbat, so there's a lot about the Sabbat.
You see, in memory of Loreto and Our Lady of the Holy House and all the various Holy Marys around Italy, in fact, and all the Dalits and French Madonnas, you know, that he could find.
But, like I said, there is very interesting here, the witch, Retting and Anne, the worship of the witch, demons and familiars.
It focuses a lot also on the Sabbat.
He has a point of view that is considered maybe a little bit too partisan because he was a religious man.
So, you know, he believed in this conflict between good and evil, though he was a very eccentric figure.
But then there was another person that influenced very much the study of witchcraft, not in a good way, because she picked up and promoted this idea that witchcraft wasn't heresy against the church, but it was actually an old religion, pagan cult, that in some way survived
And that, you know, it had a whole figure and that basically... and this woman was called Margaret Alice Murray, which I'm going to show you now a pic because she was particularly... Now, Montague Summers never believed in what she was proposing because she was more or less a contemporary with Summers and Crowley.
But this woman and what she proposed became very successful.
Very, very successful.
She was an Egyptologist, an archaeologist, an anthropologist, an historian who had worked at the University College of London, who served as president of the Folklore Society.
And so, she came from a middle-class English family, raised in the colony which was India, Calcutta, Calcutta, and at one point, after her university, after her studies in archaeology and so on, after being active also very much in feminist circles, so that can give you also another idea, she
started to promote this witch cult hypothesis which basically she then published in her books.
She also was writing a lot of articles for the Encyclopedia Britannica and she was received particularly in an enthusiastic way by authors like Ian Fortune, Louis Spence and others.
So, because The way that she was proposing this, you know, she was giving a cover to Satanism by saying that the reality was the witch cult was an old religion, it was something that wasn't like an opposing to Christianity, but it was rather A re-appropriation of something that was otherwise lost.
Because she had excavated the Bronze Age megalithic monuments, she had done a lot of research in archaeology and so on, and she had also the academic lore to convince other people, when she came out with this book called The Witch Cult in Western Europe, she was very successful.
Of course, nowadays this thesis has been dismissed by most academics.
But, you see, at that time there was one guy who was redefining the whole scene when it comes down to discussions of magic.
Yesterday we saw a film, no?
Yeah.
Which film was that?
The Chronicles of Narnia, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S.
Lewis, one of my favorites.
Yes, and he was from that environment in which one of the main figures of that time was Sir James George Fraser, who himself was very much Somebody who had studied anthropology, comparative religion, was an academic, but had also become very successful with the Golden Bao.
The Golden Bao, a study in comparative religion, it's a book that the Illuminati, Millier, loved very much.
And Fraser attempted to define the the shared elements of religious belief and scientific thought, discussing fertility rights, human sacrifice, the dying god, the scapegoat, and many other symbols and practices.
And his thesis is that all the religions were fertility cults that revolved around the worship and periodic sacrifice of a sacred king.
So, Proust had almost a magical way of interpreting reality and proposed that mankind progressed from magic through religious belief to scientific thought, almost one into the other, and abandoning, of course, almost one into the other, and abandoning, of course, magic for religious belief, and then later on for what will manifest in scientific thought.
Now, Margaret Marr instead was, what was she proposing?
With The Witch Cult in Western Europe, which became an enormously successful and disanthropological book that she published in 1921, at the height of the success of Frazer's Golden Bow, this book redefined what witchcraft was at that time.
And I think that even bigger Because also we have to understand the word, you know, when it comes to witchcraft, why is it called witchcraft?
Because there is also an etymologic connection that brings us right to Bicca, because witchcraft is basically from Old English Bicce, Bicca.
So that is where Bica comes from, from the word witch, the old English bitch.
Masculine was, of course, warlock.
But Bica then became a neo-pagan religion that was promoted and was literally born with the end of the act that prohibited magic in the 1950s.
There wasn't this witchcraft, We said the witchcraft act was repealed in 1951 and at that point they could openly promote themselves and present themselves as beacons That was the birth of Bicca that also saw people that we have discussed in the past.
Now we have discussed, of course, Gerard Gardner.
We have discussed his link also with the usual Alistair Crowley.
But for me personally, Gardnerian Bicca was something that I encountered from a very young age.
How?
Because, you see, when I was a kid, I bought this book from the pagan pioneers Gavin and Jovan Frost, Yvonne Frost.
How old were you?
I was about 10 years old.
I saw in the back of a... Your mom let you buy that?
Well, actually, I saw it in the back of a comic.
It was The Power of White Magic.
It was entitled in Italian.
That's a trick.
It was a trick because the real title wasn't The Power of White Magic.
What was it?
It was The Power of Witchcraft in English.
It was a completely different title.
The Power of Witchcraft, not The Power of White Magic.
Then when I started to read, I ordered this book, but I didn't have the money to buy it until I put together the money.
How much was it?
It wasn't a big amount but you know I was a kid I didn't have any money so I put all this money through a few months together to buy this book and I think that I got it for some exam I don't know I was doing or something but in any case this the power of white magic when I open and I think you can still find probably The original cover, but also the Italian one, so you can see the difference.
I mean, I was genuine in my endeavor.
I thought that this was positive, the way they were proposing it.
When I started to read it and I saw that you could use this magic actually to hurt others, I was kind of disappointed.
Did it seem like you had to, like, sacrifice something?
At this level it wasn't really about sacrificing much, it was about drawing CG things and doing all kinds of practices.
Astral plane, wandering in the astral plane... That's so dangerous!
I know, I know, absolutely!
But, you see... The New Age phenomenon is mixed too.
This was, absolutely, but Beacon Park is part of the New Age phenomenon.
I mean, like I said, And then there was Aleister Crowley, who himself was part of this.
He liked witches, huh?
Absolutely, absolutely.
But Gerard Garnet, Who was this English Beacon, who then became the inventor of the tradition which is now known as the Garnerian Beacon.
And then you had also other forms of Beacon.
You have the Alexander Beacon, which is derived from Garnerian Beacon, which is formed instead The Alexander Beacon is a tradition founded by a guy called Alex Sanders, who with his wife Maxine Sanders established this tradition in the United Kingdom in the 1960s.
And I think it was from this tradition that these two authors of this book, which I encountered from a very young age, which was a little bit of a disappointment.
I mean, I'm going to see if I can find the cover, but it was a little bit of a disappointment because of the fact that it wasn't so innocent as it claimed to be.
The problem is that you're reading it innocent, but the demons don't take it innocent.
They take it serious.
So you go and do that, they're going to want something back.
So they always want something back if you do something like that bad, you know, so they always, they want their pay.
They'll take it, you know, any way they can, so.
Yes, no, no, no.
I mean, okay, okay.
What happened was, okay, yeah.
What happened was I was trying to understand more.
And when you are a kid, you are easily, I say, I mean, yeah, open also to magic in a natural way.
And I, in fact, actually ended up practicing certain rituals which were devised in this book with a group of kids.
Fortunately, nothing happened to us.
We didn't unleash hell.
I mean, we were pretty lucky.
But because the book itself probably wasn't that great in directing us.
But the book that was written by these two people, which I'm going to show you, Gavin Frost died in 2016.
So, and him and his wife have founded what will become the Church and the School of Vicar here in the United States at the end of the 60s.
He was actually, I think, Welsh, but he was British.
And then he moved here to the United States.
And in fact, when I was reading this, you know, at the beginning, this introduction of who these people were, and it was kind of, but the most strange, the strange thing about this, These Gavin and Yvonne Prost, they were actually so controversial because of some of the things that Gavin had written also that really, I think, put him in the range of pedophilia because he was writing about the sex of kids.
Not in that book, but in another book, apparently.
When the book was published in Italy, it wasn't published with their names.
They hadn't even changed names.
So it wasn't the book of Gavin and Yvonne Frost which I bought.
I'll tell you the title because in Italian it had a completely different name.
In Italy it was entitled Power of the Maggia Bianca and the names were John and Katy Fair.
I'll show you.
Just to show you the level of money because It was so scandalous what happened in the in the 70s with them.
Magic power of witchcraft.
This is the version.
By the English version I show you.
And then I'm going to show you the Italian version to show you how they actually push this on children that shouldn't have had any access to this kind of thing, especially with the history regarding this guy who sit here.
This is the book.
The Power of Gaevin Frost and Ewan Frost.
The Magic Power of Witchcraft.
Okay?
Now, let me show you how it was presented.
I was ordering sea monkeys!
It was actually in the same section with sea monkeys and that kind of thing.
So there was actually, yeah, it was in the same second, John and Katie.
See, this is the Italian version and it's similar.
They made it even similar, the cover, but the title and the title, and of course, the way it was presented was completely different.
Watch.
Yeah, and you can actually find it probably even on Amazon today.
And it's, see?
It still looks pretty ominous and scary to me.
It looked pretty, a little bit ominous, I must say.
Red and black.
Yes, yes, a little bit ominous, but the way it was presented was more innocent.
And in fact, it could let people, so I was disappointed by this book.
See, this is the 1990s, but it says Alessandria, then there is the, so it says the power of white magic.
This is the 1980s, but this is 19, show you the, there is also other versions of it.
But you see, for a child who goes on a comic strip and sees this, and then, you know, they were presented in a way, the whole thing was presented in a way that people could easily be misled.
And then I was, at that point, I thought, okay, this book is not really offering me anything.
that I can regard as important, so let me go into my father's library and find something more interesting, which at that point led me to find instead, it says here, in fact, published in Rome in 1981.
So there is the thing published in Rome in 1981.
So I find the original one, which this is the same copy I used to have, which I don't have anymore.
I think I lost it in England.
Years later, here we are, see?
Published by Sansegar, Rome, 1981.
And probably it's a very rare text now, probably, but still.
So this and The Power of White Magic.
So at that point I went into my father's library and I started to see if I could find real magic, serious magic.
And then I went into other books, which if you want I can show you, which I still have here, which are much more serious.
And my curiosity brought me further and further, and I actually addressed this whole episode in Invisible Master.
And actually show even the cover, Invisible Master, of this book we just mentioned, and so on.
Because it was a moment which defined, which also made me understand.
First of all, my disappointment towards all this New Age rubbish, promises, use of magic, which was very improper.
And you can meet all the women that you want!
this, that, and all the other.
All these promises that we will add to it.
You can achieve success, this, that.
Typical also of the books that were sold back then, in those early 80s.
And you can meet all the women that you want.
Did you do that?
You were too little.
I was too little.
But I guess that somebody like Casanova used the Picatrix for that.
And Picatrix is a much more serious book, which I encountered many years later.
And that is a very serious, not Vika.
But I mean, my first encounter with Vika was disappointed.
Disappointing.
It made me understand that these mysterious forces that they were addressing were actually malevolent forces, dangerous forces, and the way they were... it was just fake.
The way they were putting it through was fake.
So when instead I went into my father's library to open his other books, and I can show you some, like those ones, Magia Pratica 1 and 2, were probably my first Where's two books, say, of magic?
And these are very, you can see from, just give me one.
No, no, the more recent one.
This one, say, for example.
Now this series here, I remember, watch how, how I used them.
Used by?
No, well, my, my father.
And then after I was like, You know, I went into my father's library.
This is not good!
No, of course it's not good, but that is what led me to become what I became.
So yes, later I rejected, but these were actually books that contained things that were much more serious.
And I can tell you that I also took the whole thing very seriously.
Even when I opened these books, I was kind of scared.
You know?
Healthy!
But in the end, let's say that I was quite lucky to have understood rather early that the real thing was not this kind of low-level witchcraft, magic, grimoires and all that, but it was alchemy.
that I needed to study.
At the same time, I can understand that the grimoire was important to make me understand also the content with the invisible world, which then pushed me in 1993, like I also wrote in a volume, Free of My Confessions, and I also, you know, inspired some Free of My Confessions, and I also, you know, inspired some elements of my work there, because that was the moment in which I practiced the magic of Abramel in the mage, and that was, you Yeah, and you had no good influence on you.
That's funny.
Thank goodness I came along!
At that time it was 1993, I was 23 years old.
23 is a magical number for the Illuminati.
93 of course is a magical number for the Illuminati of Telema, associated to Aleister Crowley.
It was a very important year for me.
I got initiated in Freemasonry and that was the year in which I got also initiated with the luminaries of the new world order, and I understood that the world that surrounded me was a very different world from how people imagined.
So witchcraft in itself, going back to witchcraft, because of course it all started from then, Now we've gone to the pagan pioneers, and in fact, when you see the faces of these two people that have published that book, which I discovered on the back of a comic strip, you say, who are these people?
I mean, it's hilarious.
I mean, what kind of people are these?
And she looks like a man almost.
We need a beauty spell.
And it talks about... These witches are always so ugly.
The evil people are always so ugly.
Look at Joe Biden.
Yeah, well, Joe Biden is particularly evil.
So it talks also about all the... Hillary Clinton.
Well, Hillary Clinton is definitely a witch, that's for sure.
Understanding a little bit about my own experience because they call the witch... Then also there is another particularity about witches.
People in the chat are making me laugh.
Okay, so witches wear a garter and that is a very important thing.
During the Sabbath they say to wear a garter And then we have the most important order in the UK, which is the Order of the Gafter.
So this makes you understand also the close association of the Royals with witchcraft, which is also something that we need to understand.
Yeah, what's up with that?
So, you know, because we talked about, of course, all this witchcraft going on during the times of Shakespeare.
There was also, but What is the connection also with the Order of the Garter?
Because the Order of the Garter is nominated even during the initiation when you are initiated with the emulation ritual of Freemasonry.
You have mentioned this Order of the Garter.
And one of my favorite Beacon Tales is about the creation of the English Order of the Garter.
Because this tradition says, basically, that when a priestess has hived three covens, she becomes a witch queen, and is entitled to wear a green snake garter with a buckle for every coven that she has hived.
the title magus does not get any gutter the woman gets this gutter this thing that she puts around so sexy on the way the gutter so basically the tradition of the gutter was mentioned by Margaret Moore which we discussed just a moment ago who said that the gutter was historically a badge of a A
what?
The badge of the witch was a garter.
Whether Marguerite Murray was correct or not, we don't know, because Marguerite Murray was not correct with other things, so we don't really know.
The story goes that the Duchess of Salisbury was dancing with King Edward III when her garter, her green garter, mind you, fell to the floor.
Supposedly, the whole room went silent because, you know, the scandals they had.
Which assumes that the rest of the court knew that the green garter symbolized something.
Witchcraft, of course.
And waited to see what the king would do.
You know, if this garter falls on the ground, let's see, is he going to condemn saying that she's a witch or whatever?
And so they all waited for what the King will do.
This was the time period when Inquisition was kind of very strong, raging across Europe, though it hadn't yet made it to England.
According to the story, the King picked up the garter and tied it to his own leg.
That's why the Brits have started to become a little bit travelloni.
They're kind of like the ancestors of Drag Queen.
No, we know that the Brits, they are a little bit, maybe with all their boarding schools and stuff, tend to have weird And they like to be beaten up.
A lot of weird British perversions.
Japanese people are like that too.
So, at that point, according to the story, the king picked up this cat, tied it to his own leg, and said a word in French.
French was very much in use.
Which meant evil to those who think evil.
So, you know, you see this scarf there on the floor and you're thinking that she's a witch.
Well, I'm going to put it on and evil to those who think evil.
This is this symbolized to the rest of the court that Edward knew exactly what his dancing partner was up to, the witch.
I wasn't going to allow the Inquisition to come to England because they didn't really have a good relationship with Rome and eventually they will depart and they will form their own church, of course.
Thus, the Order of the Garden was created by the king.
And it's now still to this day.
In fact, Prince Andrew showed up, I think, at the funeral of Queen Elizabeth with the Order of the Garter dress.
Really?
Yes.
The Order of the Garter is the top of the top of the elite of the Illuminati.
It's only for heads.
Like four royal houses, heads, king of this, king of that, and the head, the Grand Master, is of course the king in this case of England.
Now, he used to be the Queen of England.
So now it's King Charles III.
And by the way, King Charles III, we wrote an article, published an article this week on nilzegami.com, which I invite you to go and check, which is about the fact that he wanted Jimmy Savile to become, who was a witch, who was a witch for you,
Because then, when Vika came along, before a witch was only a woman, but then when Vika came along, it kind of became for both genders.
So, the Order of the Gap was created by the king to protect England's witches.
Again, whether this story is completely true or is only a legend.
witches weren't burnt in England traditionally until King James I, which we discussed, who instead, at least for a period of time, got involved in witch hunts.
And the burning started happening in the 1400s, but weren't quite overall social reaction to witches in England.
The history here is interesting, in which today Gerald Garnet cites this story, saying the king's weakness, save the situation, save the situation, and placed him almost in the position of the incarnate God in the eyes of his more pagan and placed him almost in the position of
This was followed by the foundation of an order of 12 knights for the king and 12 for the prince of Wales, 26 members in all, or two covens.
Good job.
It's quite interesting.
Freudian words imply that Edward understood the underlying meaning of the garter, for he says, the king told them it should prove an excellent expedient for uniting not only subjects One with another, but all foreigners conjunctively with them in bonds of amity and peace.
So let's all come together.
It was almost like, you know, and then lots and lots of, I mean, they call witchcraft the craft, but Freemason is also called the craft.
So we have also this whole thing going on.
So the Order of the Garter is definitely linked to witchcraft.
And this I can confirm also because at the family level, there is a lot of family tradition with these invocations of Lucifer on a Friday, these old things that were conducted in the castle of Glamis, which, of course, then is the birthplace for the Queen of course, then is the birthplace for the Queen Mother.
And so there is various interesting stories also regarding I think, and it's reported also in the Saddle book, which I have somewhere.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know if I have it here, though.
Let me see.
but basically I think that the story also regarding the moment in which the Spanish Armada in 1588 was about to conquer England and they convened a witch coven a grand coven to fight them and to and this apparently stopped the invasion but we know
also we discussed during occult wars prior episode of the Rios Zagami show which people can go and check out also what happened when there was this occult war between the English and the Nazism - Mm-hmm.
So you can go back and check out that episode also.
I think that there is definitely a lot of witchcraft in England.
And I mean, If we want to, I can show you Prince Andrew and the fact that also... Are there a lot of witches in Freemasonry?
I think that there is some.
I don't think there is a lot, but there is definitely a lot of witches that infiltrate Freemasonry.
Like there is a lot of black magicians and maguses or wizards I guess it would be a regular Freemasonry though, if there were women.
Well, of course, but this is fastly changing as Freemasonry is starting to integrate more and more women and doing it more and more also in regular environments.
So nowadays, even if they work separately, there is more integration.
So Prince Andrew has been a Knight of the Garter since 2006, and for his brother King Charles' coronation, he wore his former garter robes.
He last attended the Garter Day service in 2019.
So yes, it was King Charles' coronation, not the funeral of his mother, that he was basically.
And it says here that Prince Andrew skipped the 2023 Order of the Garter Procession.
We're reporting Mr. Procession at Windsor Castle today and this was June 19.
Probably this year they didn't make him.
This is how they dress up.
This is the official Order of the Garter Very pompous, eh?
It kind of reminds me a little bit also of the Ninth Temple of the York Rite, with that feather.
Okay, so, we are discussing today in the Luminati Occult Part 36, Witchcraft and the Use of Supernatural Powers.
Something that, of course, I discuss in my latest book, Volume 9, is also how witchcraft is connected to the use of insects, which is something that, of course, you will have to go and check out for yourself.
Then they want us to eat them.
Eh?
No, well, yeah, then they want us to eat them.
It's terrible.
Now, there is also in witchcraft, in initiations and elevation, also the use of knots, of cords, I mean, you know, like, for example, you have also a knot behind your apron.
There is a core to establish, you know, in a way, it's part, it's like knotting of the cord is also a practice within the magical tradition.
There is various stages that are connected to knots in the clan of Tubalcan, which is another of these beacon schools, by the way.
And there is also the tradition of a number of witches that has to be 13 and the number of full moon for having a witch's coven.
There is, of course, we discussed the garter, we discussed the garter, who is not just a phenomenon of the Middle Ages, by the way.
It's a phenomenon that apparently is much more ancient.
And there is a Paleolithic cave art found in eastern Spain that appears to show a sorcerer performing in a ritual while wearing nothing but a pair of garters just below his knees.
Wow!
So, the traditional... I mean, the use of garters within witchcraft is a ceremonial item.
The witchcraft... I'll show you one just so you can have an idea of the ceremonial garter.
Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show, Liam Christie Zagami.
Today, of course, we are thanking you for tuning in for our show, weekly show, that we like to put together with all this interesting and unusual information about the occult Illuminati and what they're up to.
See this card that you put it around?
I just don't understand this at all.
I just know the girls wear garters and that's it.
Okay, now there is definitely a lot of witches that involve themselves in Freemasonry.
And I think Christy had an experience of it once, because when you were in that lodge, you were surrounded by them, like you described in your book.
Can I talk about that?
Why not?
Am I going to get in trouble?
No, I mean, if you want to give this testimony to us about... because I feel... Is that my first?
I mean, during that initiation, I mean, I did a lot of initiations in Freemasonry and I was, of course, also... I wasn't scared.
I participated to the initiation of Christy, that then, later on, was passed to... I read about it in my book.
A few months later, she did the Fellowcraft and the Master Mason.
And she was elevated to Master Mason.
But the initiation, which is the entire apprentice, was done in this old church of St.
Edmund's in the center of the city, London, in this lodge based in this church.
And the people there involved in this whole procedure, half of the lodge was English and they were all members of the United Greenwich of England, but the other half were witches, basically French, most of them.
Yeah.
And I had this weird feeling like I was really assisting to the three of witches from Macbeth.
Well, and then they blindfolded me and I had, can I say this?
Yeah.
Okay.
So then I went, I was blindfolded so I didn't know, but I could see from my blindfold down so I could see the floor so I could see where I was walking.
And, um, And so I can't think without looking.
So I was looking out my blindfold and I can see and then you were there in the dark.
Let me straighten up here because some people think that we have the picture behind us which is not straight.
But you were actually in there in the dark, too, participating in it.
Yes.
Yes.
But, I mean, what I felt was this whooshing, like, around me, like the witches.
So then, and they were doing, and like, and I guess they were trying to scare me or something.
I wasn't scared.
And then you grabbed me, my boob, and I said, that was you.
I know that was you.
You're in here.
So you grabbed me.
Now, keep this in mind, guys.
It was one of the very few times I participated in mixed lodges.
I'm very much a traditionalist.
When I came to Freemasonry, I was a traditionalist and usually had always worked in lodges of only men.
So I worked in mixed lodges very few times in my life.
But it was, I think, maybe the only time I ever initiated myself.
I mean, I assisted to initiations before.
But I don't think I have initiated myself directly a woman.
It was the first time.
Well, you shouldn't do that, even though I'm your wife.
It's not very nice.
What?
It was okay.
It was okay.
I mean, what do you want?
Somebody has to do it.
I mean, I was like... Is that part of it?
I don't know.
He was playing a joke.
But anyway, I knew it was you.
And yeah, I just knew it was you.
I could tell.
I could smell your coat.
But anyway...
Those witches, they were just cackling around in the dark.
I think they were, I don't know what they were trying to whiz around me.
They were forming, making this kind of like, whoosh, whoosh, around me.
Like, they were doing some weird, weird shit.
I didn't like it.
They were whoosh, whoosh, around me.
I didn't like that.
I didn't like any of it, actually.
I didn't like the whole experience.
It sucked, and yeah, I'm sorry I did it.
Well, I had stuff to write my book about, but it really didn't make me a better person, and it didn't do anything to myself.
In this book, they can read about it?
Yeah, they can read about it.
It made me feel, like, really lose hope for humanity when I joined that lodge and saw what they were doing in there, and I got disgusted, and I wanted to fight evil even more when I learned all that stuff, and so...
I just really, um... But they're not bad people towards you.
I could see right through their bullshit.
So, I mean, it was all fake and phony, and if you're watching this, I saw through your bullshit, you know I saw through your bullshit, so whatever, you know what you did, and you know what you did.
They didn't do anything like you're thinking, but they did some bad things, so... And I saw!
Moving forward with the show, personally I would say that there is almost nothing esoteric in traditional Freemasonry today.
Nothing esoteric is left in most of what is known as social Freemasonry.
We were in a lodge, though, which was chartered by the Memphis Misery.
So already that gives you much more of a link with fringe Freemasonry, which is much more occult in nature.
OK.
And of course, connected to all the history that we know.
So I think that was also the initiation they were conducting.
It was very much more Sinister than other initiations that I encountered.
Yeah, I had a...
And this black environment, the mirrors, which mirrors are very much used in magic.
There was mirrors.
I didn't see those mirrors.
The mirrors, yeah, the mirrors.
They took out these mirrors.
Don't you remember when they took off your thing?
There was some mirrors in front of you and lights.
I don't know.
I was just kind of emorning all of it.
I found it a little bit sinister, but it was a little bit.
I mean, I'm just glad that I understand now.
I mean, I probably wouldn't be able to understand everything that I understand now.
And I'm really smart when it comes to this occult stuff because I've studied it so much.
Um, I never practiced any, anything bad like that, you know, like bad magic.
I only did protection stuff when I was doing it, but still that's bad too.
You shouldn't do any of it.
Um, but I learned a lot.
I did.
I learned a lot.
And not all of the, um, the experience was bad with the Freemasonry at that thing, because there was some really, um, there was actually some good people that were there.
So thankfully there were some good people.
I could tell they were Christians and actually as bad as it sounds, I was staring at a painting of Jesus.
We were in a church.
We were in a church.
I was in a church.
In an Anglican church, but it was a church.
It's so wrong to do that and it's such a shame on them.
Whatever they were doing, I don't know.
They weren't doing anything.
The original Masons were constructing the cathedrals.
Well, they weren't doing regular Mason stuff, I don't think.
I don't know what they were trying to hex me or something.
I think those witches were up to bad stuff.
I think they were a little bit witchy, definitely, a little bit witchy.
So, I mean, there is a notion that magic is connected to telepathy, to the paranormal, to events that are unexplainable.
And definitely you connect also with the egregore, the thought form that you put together when you are in a lodge.
I did not want to connect with that thought form at all.
I just felt it was... all right, I don't want to talk about it.
No, but like I said, sorcery must be though clearly distinguished from ordinary magic or witchcraft, because the use of extra sensory powers, like I say in Volume 9 of my Confession, that is telepathy and water divining, are simple forms of witchcraft.
For example, that don't bring to the same consequence.
Sorcery is the attempt at the systematic use of such powers by means of spells, potions, rituals and so on.
So a simple distinction would be to say that witchcraft is fundamentally passive, sorcery fundamentally active.
But perhaps the most important distinction is this, witchcraft and magic depend upon higher levels of consciousness, like Coraline Wilson used to say, away the grasp of reality that man normally possesses.
So when I became curious of magic from a very early age, because of the environment I was brought up in, because I remember that Before I even brought that book of white magic, I heard about Cagliostro, for example, who was a member of my family.
I heard about him being this magician.
But Cagliostro never really did anything evil.
There were people who used some form of magic to actually help people.
Countess Anne Germaine apparently did the same.
But then you have people that were clearly evil, like Aleister Crowley.
Even if Aleister Crowley said, I'm practicing white magic.
Okay, I'm practicing white magic.
It's obvious that he was evil.
He was identifying himself with 666.
I mean, that's not really like a positive thing.
So I think that the fact that we want to search for, we want to search something different And of course, you know, some people feel like with the magic they can obtain things.
And that is completely wrong.
No, but if you ask God and if you pray, God will answer your prayers.
He will.
If you pray, God, ask and you shall receive.
And I really believe that.
If you're, if you're worthy, I mean, God doesn't just give, you have to be worthy.
God makes you work.
But those were the, that's where the best gifts come from God.
Yes.
I think that, you see, I did a lot of mistakes in my life.
I later realized them.
And of course, as you know, In 2006, that's when I wanted to become clear of all that by writing my confessions online, starting a war against these people, which actually had already been fought behind, you know, in the close environment of those lodges already between me and people like Fritz Ford and others.
I talk about this magical warfare that went on between me and these sorcerers from the Illuminati that were very powerful ones that cursed me over and over again.
I ended up having to be exorcised over and over again and so on.
So, I mean, I believe in witchcraft and in the existence of witchcraft.
I might not have every, not the same exact ideas as Montego Summers, but I think Montego Summers was, in my eyes, the one that at least had understood that this is part of the one that at least had understood that this is part of the great confrontation between good and And I believe that because I'm a believer.
So I have that kind, I'm not like Colin Wilson who says, witches are evil, but the devil and his powers are not.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
I don't even believe that all of the accusations against all those thousands and thousands of witches that were put on the stakes were real.
Many of them were instrumental.
They were probably, they were also men that were brought on the stake and stuff.
Like the Salem Witch Trials.
Of course, the Salem Witch Trials is an example of something that really, in a way, is part of American history and that we can never bring, you know, the Salem Witch Trials were a series of hearings and prosecutions of people accused of witchcraft.
In the end, more than 200 people were accused.
Not all of them, of course, were killed, though.
But there were 19 that were found guilty.
Actually, 30 people were found guilty and 19 were executed by hanging, 14 women and five men, as well as even two dogs.
Now, there was a man, Giles Corey, that died under torture after refusing to enter a plea, and at least five people died in jail.
Now, what happened in those Salem Witch Trials with those Puritans?
It's something that, of course, has benefited, unfortunately, the evil side more than us who are trying to fight witchcraft, fight the evil.
Because nowadays, and in fact, in the case of my own experience, when I bought that book and I discovered that this guy had the headquarters in Salem, that's the guy who wrote that book, The Power of Witchcraft.
And so understanding that you have basically in front of you also episodes that were part of a strategy that, of course, didn't always benefit us and at times brought also to die innocent people.
People probably haven't done anything wrong, didn't do anything wrong, but ended up being killed for the fanaticism of some other people.
But having said that, we need to find a balance between the fanaticism, the fundamentalism that doesn't bring anything good, and the extreme liberal progressive ways and the extreme liberal progressive ways of today where we have a society that absolutely dismisses the existence of witchcraft. - Yes.
And I don't know if that is completely positive.
We saw, of course, witch hunts are still conducted in certain countries.
We don't want to necessarily, you know, start again lighting the fires of the whole Inquisition here.
I'm not saying that.
But the fact that here in the West, we have now this idea that we can completely dismiss thousands of years of history saying it's all garbage.
It's just superstition.
I don't know if that's really the right thing.
We need to find a balance here.
You know, I have a book that is Confessions of an Illuminati Volume 8.
In this book, I showed how, within the realms of show business, a lot of black magic and witchcraft is conducted freely, promoted, people literally making videos, burning pages of the Bible and doing terrible things like that.
I don't think that is the right thing.
So, you know, the fact that magic and witchcraft are now being projected onto us for the last hundred years with Hollywood.
And I explain that with Kenneth Anger and all that in my book, Volume 8 of my Confessions for those who are interested.
It's a big book, I know, but a very important book.
And of course, in this other book instead, which is my latest book, Volume 9, I also explain the various differences with sorcery and witchcraft and why, in the end, when you abuse this kind of power, you inevitably tend to, at that point, be punished by God, who will come down on you really heavy.
You don't want God mad at you.
So you shouldn't indulge in any activities that are related to witchcraft or to supernatural powers because the main power is from God and only with prayer, only with the intensity of your prayer and the sincerity of your heart and your prayer, you can do things that you can basically
of course oppose all this mambo jambo and I'm talking about mambo jambo and mambo is the voodoo priestess I mean you're talking about the reality here there is still a lot and we had a whole episode on voodoo which is also a very powerful form of witchcraft which is still conducted here in the Americas and has been brought traditionally from Africa and
See how, for example... I feel like there's a lot of witchcraft going on in this country.
I feel like on the left, there's a lot of witches, and they're casting a lot of spells.
Absolutely.
There was just this full moon.
I mean, I just... I have that, you know.
I have... Can you pick up those books there?
Because this is very important.
I mean, the left is, of course, And here I have a bunch of books that today also I was consulting for today's show, of course.
And this is a Goya's painting which appeared on the Sabba, which I think is fantastic.
Fantastic, I mean, that gives an idea of the Sabba.
I'm going to get rambled on.
The idea of the Sabba, which was basically the witches with the evoking Satan and putting him at the center of this.
And then The Magic of the Resistance, a book that is actually written by a leftist Freemason, Michael M. Hughes, who has invented this curse against Donald, the binding of Donald J. Trump, who now is trying to curse Vladimir Putin.
And there is a lot about witches.
And also, actually, in this book, it says that there is even A organization, a modern organization, which is called W.I.T.C.H., which actually stands for, it's the initials... Who's tired?
Baby.
Why are you tired, Rambo?
What's up with you?
It's hard listening to you.
No, but it's important.
Watch this.
W.I.T.C.H., Women International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell, a group of radical feminists who took inspiration from the creative, shocking political failure of the hippies.
This organization also works actively against Trump.
So I mean, this is crazy.
And when it comes to witchcraft here, I would like to remind what Elif Where is it?
Levi, the great initiate, said about the hymns of witchcraft and magic.
And with this we can really conclude because it's a perfect way, I think, quoting Levi.
So, Christy, you want to read it?
Where is it?
It's this one here, this passage here.
To deceive the peoples for the purpose of exploiting them, to enslave them and delay their progress or prevent it even if possible, such is the crime of black magic.
That's it.
That's it.
That is a crime.
That is a crime.
Definitely is a crime.
Don't do it.
Elizabeth Levy, the great initiate, has defined the Hades of Magic and Witchcraft with these words that Christy just read.
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