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Aug. 7, 2023 - The Leo Zagami Show
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Zagami interviewed by Former CIA Security Operator on the AI take over of the Planet!
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Hello, everyone.
It's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
I'm joined once again by Leo Zagami.
He's got a brand new book out.
He's a world-renowned authority on the occult side of the Vatican and the real Illuminati.
Leo was Illuminati for 13 years.
Zagami is exposing for the first time, with the help of confidential documents and qualified resources, the secret plan of the League for the establishment of a new Golden Age.
Built with the help of an alien AI, aka Cyber Satan, so to enslave mankind and turn the elite into gods by 2030, before the inevitable divine retribution.
This extraordinary journey, and I've read a little bit of it now, it's absolutely incredible.
Just the beginnings of it is really whetting my appetite.
I can't wait to dive into it more.
Divided into seven imaginary steps, we'll lead you bit by bit, like no one has done before, into the untold secrets of this increasingly dystopian reality, the author-branded New World Disorder.
The author goes on to unveil in this book the Illuminati's involvement with transhumanism, Their quest for immortality, the Codex Alimentarius, and insect witchcraft, the shocking reality of cultured meat, and most of all, what Freemasonry and Illuminati have been teaching in secret about Jesus and the Gnostic heresies that will produce the quantum prince of darkness that will enslave humanity.
So, this book is, like I said, is absolutely incredible, Leo.
So, thanks so much for bringing it out.
So, how have you been?
What have you been up to, other than writing book after book after book?
Surviving the heat of Palm Springs, mostly, which has not been an easy one this year.
So, we are literally melting under the sun, but that's, I guess, normal when you are in the desert.
Regardless of whatever climate change frenzy and strategy of tension they work around it.
But apart from that, yes, I've been really working on this book for the last year and focusing on it because I wanted to create something really special.
As you know, my last book, Volume 8, was dedicated to the show business and my own involvement also in it facilitated this You know, digging deep into it, and it was very successful, so I'm very glad for how the whole project of Volume 8 was put together and was also received very well.
The same happened also with Volume 7, of course, but Volume 9 lives in a dimension of its own.
It's basically a book that I have created So that people who have never really...
I haven't brought any of my books, you know, because now we are at volume nine, so that's a lot of books to really catch up with.
So I wanted to instead make, like you said, an imaginary seven steps journey in this ladder, which is a little bit like Jacob's ladder, but it's not really going upwards, it's rather descending downwards in a spiral of, in a journey of
Making people aware, but at the same time pointing out on some solutions and making them aware of things that haven't been discussed really by other researchers or have been, let's say, abandoned, like the Codex Alimentarius, for example.
I guess the last great researcher who discussed it was maybe Jim Mars, the late Jim Mars.
I don't think others after him really went into this research.
So it was with great pleasure that I put together this project And I've now been putting it out because it's gonna make people really understand the mess we are in, where all this comes from, though, because it's very important to also understand the origins of this mess, you know?
So, people think about the Illuminati, and of course, Illuminati, it's 1776, you know, 1st of May, 1776.
And everybody focused on that date as the beginning of this conspiracy.
As I tried to explain in my previous books, you know, we define Illuminati as a wider range of secret societies that go back thousands of years into the mystery schools of old, from Alexandria of Egypt in particular, and that's where we encounter the Gnostics, Who gave a lot of problems to the early fathers of the Church, and the Gnostics turned out to be today's Illuminati.
That's why in today's Illuminati mystery schools, or even in Freemasonry, there is so much importance given to Gnosticism.
And I really wanted to dedicate a whole chapter of this book also on how both Freemasonry and the Illuminati
have distorted the image of Jesus to their advantage, picking up from, of course, these old Gnostic mystery schools, old Gnostic traditions, heresies, basically, that, like I said, created a lot of problems to both the early fathers of the Church, but also to Jesus himself.
I mean, not long after he ascended, Not long after, basically, his crucifixion, a guy came around called Simon Magus that tried to already cast a shadow over his legacy, and at the same time tried to buy his way in
The trusted apostles of Jesus, by purchasing, you know, buying them, literally trying to corrupt them.
And that gave way to what is now known as the practice of simony, which is, you can find it of course in your dictionary, simony is basically the sale of religious titles.
I mean, the sale, you know, For example, in Rome, in the Vatican, often cardinals from certain families were appointed simply to that position of Prince of the Church because of who they were.
That is, of course, simony.
But simony can also be transferred into the many realms of Freemasonry, the various degrees that have been bestowed at times just because of interest or purchase, simply, like I state in my book.
So, Gnosticism, the first Gnostic is Simon Magus, and he doesn't really have a good name, because he gave birth to the practice of simony.
So, you understand, it starts to... then People want to understand more about Gnosis today, because since the 70s, Freemasonry
And of course, behind the scenes, the Illuminati, the various Illuminati sects and mystery schools, have tried to push Gnosticism, rebranding it really as something like the original form of Christianity, because that's what, since the time of Adam Bechap, and actually Adam Bechap did found the Illuminati, but he founded the Illuminati with the intention not only of
Destroying the monarchies and, of course, promoting what is now communist socialism, but also promoting his own idea of Christianity.
He was teaching the members of his order that The real Christianity was something else, and he was actually giving you the secrets within the secret teachings of each degree.
So, here we are with the start of this great lie that unfortunately took over Freemasonry.
Freemasonry initially wasn't at all connected to In fact, in the 17th and 18th century, it was very rare to have that kind of approach, but towards the second half of the 18th century,
They started to use Freemasonry as a place, the Gnostics, where they could teach their heresy, where they could actually propose their heresies, they could push their heresy, and of course Adam Bechart was one of the first people to perceive that possibility.
And immediately after him we have the great reformer of the Scottish Rite, Albert Pike, And people today, when, you know, when they talk about Albert Pike, they talk, you know, about the introduction of the Scottish Rite, like, wow, these great secrets, great teachings, maybe they really have the truth about Jesus, because Albert Pike continued
He came, of course, after Ambasia, but he continued with this lie that all these various sects that popped up at the time of Jesus and called themselves Gnostic Christians, at the time, though, these groups were actually putting in the mouth of Jesus teachings that were not of Jesus.
They were simply using You know, the popularity of Jesus, saying, well, you know, Jesus said that, or this occult practice was actually practiced in secret by Jesus and his disciples.
So a lot of misunderstandings also came around about the figure of Jesus, almost depicted at times like a magician, when we know that that's not the case, of course, because there is a big difference between An occult practice and what Jesus was doing, which is, of course, enforcing the Word of God.
And I don't think that God needs to make any occu-spocus or any occult rituals to enforce his own No?
His own vision.
So, there was, of course, a lot of these sects that were born right after Jesus arrived, and then his departure, and of course, especially in the second century after Christ, it became a problem.
So, the fathers of the Church started to identify this problem, and one of them, called Irenaeus, who lived in the south of France, he actually wrote extensively about it, denouncing all their inconsistencies.
I'm not saying that everything that, of course, the Council of Nicaea and the following Council promulgated is absolutely correct, or that the Vatican might not have some secret teachings of Jesus or some secrets on Jesus that are, of course, deposited in the Vatican archives.
But having said that, the Gnostic teachings are much more insidious.
Because, in the end, they brought us people like Alistair Crowley.
And Alistair Crowley, with his Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica within the OTO, claimed to have established a new religion.
So then Gnosticism was really open to any form of heresy.
And at the same time, like I explain in my book, with the advent of Spiritism, and then Theosophy,
They also revived the Gnostic Church by means which are absolutely inconsistent with the Christian practices, with necromancy, with a guy who in France started to channel these Albigians and cater bishops to then relaunch a new Gnostic Church, which became the official church of branches of certain, let's say, Masonic rites.
Especially the so-called Egyptian rights.
And that's why in this chapter, particularly important and relevant in my book, I talk also about a guy called John Yarker.
He's not as famous as Crowley, as Pike, as Bechart, but he's actually very influential because he's the guy who sold the 33rd degree to Alistair Crowley.
He's the one who, with his book The Arcane Schools, influenced very much the very early foundations of the O.T.O., and in fact, today's O.T.O., I'm talking about O.T.O.
for your viewers, O.T.O.
is Ordo Templi Orientis, which is not a masonry, but a paramasonic society, which was established over 100 years ago between Austria and Germany, And then was taken over eventually in the 1920s by Alistair Crowley.
So Leo, we've talked about a lot of the history and how deep it goes.
Now it goes all the way back to Egyptian times, right?
Absolutely, and even Sumerian time, Babylonian time.
There is also a lot of this information that was pushed by the Theosophical Society.
For example, Madame Blavatsky, as soon as she came around with the Theosophical Society, she started pushing this misconception that the essence, the mythical essence, were somehow Gnostics.
Now the Essence might have been linked to Jesus.
There were around 4,000 Essences at the time practicing this schismatic version of the Mosaic Laws, but they have nothing to do with Gnosticism.
If we go and check out the Dead Sea Scrolls, they have nothing to do with Gnosticism, while instead Nag Hammadi has something to do with Gnosticism.
Now, the Nag Hammadi discovery and the Dead Sea Scrolls, because they were more or less done, these discoveries, archaeological discoveries of great importance were done in the same period, 1945, 1946, until the 50s, then a lot of people tend to mix them up. then a lot of people tend to mix them up.
Let's say the common folk.
Ah, yeah, well, yes, they are part of the Gnostic.
No, it's two different things.
And in fact, in the Dead Sea Scrolls, you have also the Book of Enoch links with that book, which is, of course, preceding Christianity by three or four centuries, and which is still accepted today by the Ethiopian church and which is still accepted today by the Ethiopian church and by some other monks.
Minor groups, but it's not at all accepted by the canonical, you know, the canonical version of the Bible doesn't include of course the Book of Enoch.
Having said all this, to not confuse everybody, to not make it so, you know, to not make it boring, I want to just say that We have spent a lot of time in the research in this book of this topic because from Gnosticism you arrive, of course, then Alexander of Egypt is also important for the birth of what we now call alchemy, you know, what
Alchemy became so important in the Renaissance and it kind of like gave the ground foundations for a transformation of our society from the Renaissance onwards that brought us all the way till now where we have instead transhumanism.
And, you see, so these things are relevant to today's person because, aside from the venture, you know, in fact what I did in my book is I didn't really discuss the controversy regarding Jesus and how Freemason and the Illuminati distorted his teaching.
I left it to the fifth chapter, number five, to the fifth step.
Because I wanted to first focus on what is happening today because of that so-called Gnosis.
Now Gnosis means, of course, knowledge.
They always claimed to have been in search of knowledge, these Gnostics, but they always also claimed to have been, and they are still today, elitarian.
That means that they only believe that these teachings need to be imparted, given to very few people.
They don't believe in the truth should set you free.
The truth is for all.
The truth is something that everybody should actually, especially in the end times, Well, the Gnostics are not that way.
And so, within my time in the Illuminati, I was part of a Gnostic church.
I actually lived this directly as an experience.
I became part of the Norwegian Gnostic church under Reverend Jan Sater.
Now he died a few years ago.
He was basically also a very famous artist.
He was the guy in charge of painting the Grandmaster of Norwegian Freemasonry every time there was a new Grandmaster appointed.
He was a guy who I held in high esteem because I wanted to learn more about Gnosticism and he seemed to be the right source.
He came here In California in the 70s, he will eventually get this priesthood from a guy called Stefan Höller.
Which I think is still alive, I'm not sure, but he has basically the most, let's say, the most respected Gnostic church in the world, with various branches, of course, around the world.
But at the same time, there is, like I said earlier, there is a bunch of Gnostic churches, there is a bunch of churches connected, though, even Stefan Heller is connected to the same
Gnostic lineage, which comes from that spiritist, Doniel, who suddenly, after reading Albert Pike's book, went to the headquarters of the Theosophical Society in France, evoked these spirits through an act of, you know, mediumship, of course.
You know that after the 1850s and, of course, the Fox Sisters, Spiritism was very, very popular In America, in Europe, let's say in the whole of the Western world, there was almost a fixation towards, you know, contacting the dead.
And so, and of course that is contrary to both Christian beliefs and Jewish beliefs, because even in Judaism, Necromancy and talking with the dead is totally forbidden since the time of King Saul who tried to talk through the switch and know what was happening with the war the day after, what he was doing, and then it all failed and all that.
When it comes to today, my first chapter wanted to also bring to the attention of the people documents, documents from the Illuminati, real Illuminati, photo, and actually the evidence that these Illuminati exist.
And so I brought into the equation in my new book the
The work of Dr. Nicolaus Laus, who has been appointed recently by the Italian Grandmaster Giuliano di Bernardo as his main representative in Greece, which the Illuminati consider at the moment Greece a very strategic location for a number of reasons, also connecting to their Orthodox faith and other things.
So, in chapter one, I explain how Dr. Nicholas Lauz, who is a disciple of Giuliano Di Bernardo, and that's, you're showing now at the moment, the front piece of the document in question, which is a transcendental meta-algorithmic transhumanism, the entelogy of the human being.
I know, it's great wording, you know, the thing is, When you have these people, you have people who of course use the words as an act of manipulation.
Typical of what in ancient Greece used to be the sophists.
The sophists used to do that.
I always love the coverage of your book.
There's so much information in here.
This looks like an ancient picture of UFO like beaming down.
Because another thing that is very important it was the Gnostics who of course were linked to the teachings of Alexandria who in turn came all the way from ancient Atlantis who started to evoke these entities to invite them into our dimension and For that reason, here you have one of those encounters and early encounters depicted right in the cover.
At the same time, in the cover of this book, we have also Jesus, which is of course one of the protagonists, but at the same time one of the people who the Gnostics in some way have tried to ruin.
From the beginning, you know, the jealousy they have, the hate they have for Jesus has always been present.
And then you have in the transparent, you know, the imagery, of course, of the insects, because in this book I also talk about insect witchcraft, which is also an important part of this book, which we're going to discuss in a moment.
Then you have the image of Baphomet, of course, the statue used by the Satanic Temple, but if you notice on the left you have the symbol of FAO.
FAO is on your left, on the people's, I guess, the FAO organization is basically an organization which is very important today for the New World Order because together
FAO and WHO are two institutions created from the United Nations that in the early 60s inaugurated the Codex Alimentarius, which will decide what is safe for you to eat.
Now, I wouldn't trust these people, of course, especially, we can't trust these people.
No, no.
With anything.
But the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations is currently in the hands of China.
It's kind of in the hands of China.
The recent elections they had because their headquarters is in Rome.
You see the WHO is in Geneva.
The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations is instead in Rome.
The last election there was only one candidate and it was the Chinese guy who was already the head of it so there is basically no will of changing things even from the United States of other countries that have noticed the corruption involving the Food and Agriculture Organization because China literally bought its way to the top Nobody's saying anything, just like for the WHO.
These organizations are completely corrupt and that's why Trump did a great thing when he kicked their ass during the early stages of the pandemic and didn't want to have anything to do with them, but unfortunately now We have another kind of administration in the White House.
Then, on your right, you have instead Cyber-Satan.
Cyber-Satan is a definition I've been using since Volume 6.66 to define the evolution of the AI into something more and more evolved until, with the help of quantum computing, it will eventually unleash its full potential in what is cyber-satan.
And that will be the moment in which the digital gulag that they are creating around us will be closed.
We will be trapped.
We will be in prison, basically, if we don't find an alternative off the grid.
So, as you can see, the cover of the book has a lot of... I mean, there is also some demons down there that are also being evoked, of course.
The Sabbath, you know, the Sabbath has always been very important for the witches, and there was a period in which the witches were fought, and there was actually a couple of books the Compendium Maleficarum and the Malleus Maleficarum, which were guides, basically, to recognize these witches and what they were doing.
Now, in this book, I explain how one of the practices of the devil, together with his witches, was also connected to insects.
Insects and insects witchcraft is a protagonist also of this book because nobody's, first of all, like I said, the Codex Alimentarius was untouched for a long time and since then there has been a lot happening because, I mean, only in the last few years they have started to really obsessively pushing for these insects, eating insects, making flour out of insects, promoting insects,
As something that instead up until 20 years ago was completely banned from being even close to any source of food.
And then at the same time we have also the recent approval of synthetic meat, which is another of the recent obsessions of the Codex Alimentarius.
And of the United Nations, and of the WHO, and all this because they are simply trying to say to us, you know, we are over 8 billion, like Kerry recently said in a public statement, John Kerry from the skull and bones, who is in charge of our climate, and so
Climate change is of course nowadays discussed profusely by everybody, but I don't hear many people discussing the details of what it means to eat insects, because insects have a long tradition in the occult.
In Asia, there is the tradition of the Koduku, which is to make poisons out of these insects and curses, and the same in China with another, which is called the Gu, which is another magical tradition.
And then we have, of course, also in ancient Rome, We have also a lot of insect witchcraft, insects that were used for making talisman amulets and things, connected also with what was going on, of course, also in Egypt we have the scarab, of course, we have that is very famous here, we know how it is popular in Egypt, but not only that, there has always been this connection with the insects regarding the occult.
Like I said, In the Compendium Maleficarum, which was one of the guides that, you know, people were reading when they were going in search of black magical practices, it was saying that when the witches are evoking the devil for the Sabbath, one of the things that they do is also to get all these insects, to gather all these insects around them, because then these insects will be used
To attack the cattle, the food.
I mean, it's insane to think that we are farming insects.
Because the concept of farming insects, I can't really get my head around it, sorry, but it's insane.
Because the moment in which you lose a few insects and you have a nearby farm with animals or you have crops around, you are risking basically to destroy everything.
So, the insanity of the Codex Alimentarius and what is happening at the moment, for me, was very important to denounce all this, but also to get people to realize why are they making us eat insects.
It's not just because they want to continue eating the nice things and they want to give us garbage.
There is also an awkward significance.
There is also a way of, you know, you are what you eat.
This is a very important phrase.
And if you start eating insects, basically you become like one.
And the elite will simply treat us like one.
So the elite has, at this moment, a plan.
A plan that for the first time in Volume 9, I unveil.
A plan about Controlling humanity with the quantum computers, which are unaffordable for people like me or you, because there is a, you know, the creation of the digital divide.
What does it mean?
It means that, you know, people can say what they want.
Yeah, but I can do anything with my computer.
I can hack into this and hack it.
You don't get it.
With the quantum computers, especially the ones the military has at the moment, they can get into your computers, they can hack, they can get into the blockchains, they can destroy the whole crypto in one day.
The whole crypto movement can be destroyed in one single day because quantum computers can get everywhere.
And they are something that we can control up to a certain extent, because after we don't know what's gonna happen, how they will evolve.
And that's the danger, you see, here that humanity doesn't really get.
We are basically, at the moment, focusing on the superficial problems of politics.
When in 10 years from now, politicians will not even exist anymore.
So they literally, they will not exist.
So just take the date here, write down what I said today on the 6th of August.
You and me have made this statement and people will say, okay, okay, write it down.
Put it down because this is true and this is going to happen and in 2033 you will no longer have any politicians because the AI will have taken over every single form of governance and the whole, you know, The whole thing of now discussing if democracy will survive, how?
The problem is Trump or the problem is Biden.
This is rubbish compared to what is coming, because I don't think people realize the power of quantum computing and the danger that quantum computing, once it's unleashed, will, you know, it's obvious that
Now the military are working behind the scenes with quantum computing, not only IBM, on projects that are super secret, in super secret bases that are even more secret than the one, you know, nowadays of course we discuss every time, oh the UFOs, Area 51, but that's Where also my book wants to bring you, wants to bring you to that first hint I gave in Volume 7 about the origins of the AI.
If you remember, I discussed the fact that after the Roswell crash, they started the reverse engineering.
And now, well now, we have actually David Grush who is coming out and he's confirming everything.
But not only that, because You see, people can say, well, the guy's a disinfo agent, but the guy, you know, I mean, you've been in the military, so I would like to know your opinion on David Cruz.
So, I'm kind of like on the fence with him.
I don't know if he's legit or not.
A lot of people think that he's revealing really good stuff, but I think that Because I revealed a little stuff on the... some secrets and stuff like that and I get really hammered.
Anytime they've ever talked about... He's not getting hammered because he's part of the style.
So I need... Yeah, I think so.
How to put this through and in my book I explain how this whole disclosure that has been unfolding from the beginning of the year has been carefully crafted for you.
And it's not a coincidence what he's doing.
It's not a coincidence that in the first week of June, Martin Rees, who is a royal astronomer, a scientist of, you know, one of the most respected scientists probably in the world, has come out with a paper saying things that are pretty shocking.
And this was done a week before David Grush, and of course it didn't have There was nobody to my knowledge that gave any importance to this documentation that Martin Rees published.
But basically Martin Rees published a paper with a guy called Mario Livio, And he finally exposed the alien agenda behind the AI in the prestigious publication Scientific America, saying most aliens may be artificial intelligence, not life as we know it.
Human intelligence may be just a brief phase before machines take over.
That, he said, may be where the aliens are hiding.
And in fact, My book is also about making people aware of this Trojan horse that we are all carrying in our pockets.
The aliens don't need to come around with the classic invasion, Independence Day style we saw at the cinema.
They have done it in a much more insidious way.
And they have done it in a much more clever way because, of course, they have a different concept of time and space.
They have a technology which is interdimensional.
They can bypass the idea of time that we have.
And so they knew exactly that if they give us something, we will start doing what we did.
And in the end, that reverse engineering will actually construct around us, Homo sapiens, The trap, the prison which they wanted.
Now some people say the aliens are not aliens, they're interdimensional.
Listen guys, if you are interdimensional, It means you can also be very easily extraterrestrials, because if you start dominating that kind of technology, then you go through black holes, you can actually go through those tunnels that can transmit you from one side of the universe to the other.
So it's kind of post-posterous to think only, you know, like a lot of people nowadays have the idea And even friends of mine in the UFO community, researchers, that one thing excludes the other.
But that's not the case.
Once you have interdimensional, multidimensional technology, well, at that point, it's like you are traveling through universes, let alone traveling from one part to the other of the universe.
It's very important to understand what Martin Rees is saying, but also it's very important to go back to what Grouch said regarding the first UFO crash that he said was not Roswell, but was in 1933 Magenta in Italy.
Because then I had information for a number of years already about that crash, and a friend of mine who is a researcher, Roberto Pinotti, who directs one of the biggest UFO research, now WAP, as they call it now, organizations in the world.
And he has a lot of people that collaborate with him also here in the United States, including my friend Donald Schmidt, who is one of the people who co-founded the Roswell Museum and so on.
and other people.
Roberto Pinotti at the beginning of July published some documents.
I include these documents in my new book.
They are documents that come from from Italy during the fascist time, because of course 1933 was right at the height of Mussolini's reign in Italy.
He had been in charge already for 13 years.
He had created a special group to investigate this UFO, a group called I think RS-33.
33 doesn't seem to be a number that has been just But the people involved with this group of people that he, of course, worked with were scientists like Enrico Fermi.
And Enrico Fermi, with Oppenheimer, became the guy who made the first nuclear bomb with the Manhattan Project.
Because after the racial laws, Enrico Fermi decided to abandon Italy, come to America, And join, of course, the Manhattan Project.
Wow.
So, it was Enrico Fermi, at the beginning of the 50s, after everything that went down with Roswell and all that, that during a lunch, you know, in an Italian style, he said, well, but where are these UFOs?
If, you know, if they're here, where are they?
And this became basically the Fermi paradox.
that everybody since then calls, you know, the Fermi Paradox, which means that, yes, well, in theory, if you are also a mathematician, you know that you might have a civilization out there, but then you have to also find them.
And this Fermi paradox is in itself, basically, it's important that we go back to the Fermi paradox because Enrico Fermi He knew already the truth because he had had access to that first UFO in Italy.
So when he was stating that, and then it became famous, you know, the Fermi paradox and the chain of reasoning behind it and the fact that, you know, The discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the likelihood of its existence became like a discussion that all the academics took on board.
But in reality, the guy knew exactly what he was saying.
He was saying something just, you know, to prove once again that it was a very limited number of people who really knew the truth and who were accessing this technology to build The future.
And of course, in the early 50s, we had also Carl Gustav Jung, who was discussing very much the UFO phenomena.
A lot of people were discussing the UFO phenomena after not only Roswell, but all the various UFO sightings that we had in the second half of the 40s.
But like I said, There is also this first UFO crash in Italy, and it was actually the Vatican that helped the Americans get this UFO out of Italy at the end of the war.
So there was also the direct involvement of the Vatican in all this.
And I'm glad to have worked and collaborated for a few years.
Also, we had political involvement together.
He was part of my political group, Roberto Pinotti.
He's a Freemason.
So, I know Roberto very well.
I know that he's a credible guy.
So, when he started to publish his documents on the Daily Mail in early July this year,
I immediately said that this is interesting and maybe people need to know more about it because one of these documents was actually confirmed by, he gave it to one of, you know, those, how you say, those firms that check out if your legal documents are real or not, if historically, you know, maybe this parchment is real or not, if they have to maybe sell it.
So he went to To have these documents verified because they were given to him by somebody in Italy who claimed to have been the son of somebody who was involved with this whole thing.
And then there is these documents on my book, and you can check them out.
I mean, they apparently are very much credible documents, and they also discuss the fact that Mussolini himself intervened directly to silence every journalist who might talk about this event.
Wow!
So it was starting in Italy and they started silencing it in Italy and it's just carried over till to this day.
Till this day and then in the 1950s of course they started to reverse engineer this technology and the first thing of course the most important and relevant thing that came out of it was artificial intelligence.
So I mean That's it!
They gave us something, knowing that we will use it, and we will basically... it's a Trojan horse!
I mean, you know, Ulysses hid inside, because maybe people don't know the story of the Trojan horse, you know, and maybe we need to refresh their minds, but it was brought If you remember, by the people living in Troy, like, you know, wow, what is this beautiful horse?
Let's bring it in!
The Greeks left us a gift, how nice of them.
Yeah, so nice of them, you know?
And unfortunately, I think that this is the problem here.
We are facing not only a problem with the AI as we speak, and of course, this is something that is discussed even by our lawmakers, by everybody, all the politicians discuss it every day.
But then, On one side, we have the politicians that are, you know, saying, oh, well, we might now reveal you some truths about this UFO.
But then they don't connect the two things.
Because if what David Grush said is true, we are all screwed.
Isn't that the case?
I mean, you understand what I mean?
I mean, regardless of his genuinity, because the guy could be a complete crook, he could be working simply as doing his job, revealing what he is, you know, what he's allowed to reveal.
That's why he didn't lose, from what I know, any security clearance.
He might now have maybe some problems because, of course, they need to build around him a little bit of myth, a bit of legend, you know, around this figure.
I'm sure that David Gruscio will end up in every single UFO conference in the next 10 years, probably.
No, you know, you will probably see him here at Conta in the desert or everywhere else.
But I was, this year, At contact in the desert because it's just around the corner from here, you know, they do it close to Palm Springs in Palm Desert.
I mean, so it's very close.
So I went there and it was actually right at the end of the event that this whole disclosure kind of started.
Wow.
Interesting timing.
Interesting timing, interesting timing.
Also interesting timing, also everything that went on since the beginning of the year regarding this disclosure, because it wasn't only David Grush, there was politicians who were talking about reverse engineering, you know, I mean, it was like, there was even a law That, if you remember, a couple of years ago was discussed about authorizing reverse hygiene.
I mean, so it's like people are not capable of, of course, understanding at the moment, I think, all the implications.
But with the help, I hope, of my book, they will have a much more clear view of where it all started, how it developed, and how ultimately this will lead us to another fall of Atlantis.
Because, you know, they are claiming that the AI will bring us to a new golden age.
And the Golden Age has been this constant myth that never ends, from Plato's time, who of course mentioned and talked for the first time about Atlantis.
The fact that it used to be this ideal place where these ten kings used to live in harmony with everybody else, and with the god Poseidon, and everything was great, and commerce was great, but then something happened.
Then something happened.
Then they started to not respect their god anymore.
Sorcery came into this whole picture.
And then things got corrupted.
And then, of course, just like for Noah, just for Gilgamesh, we have the great flood and everything is washed off the face of the earth.
The Great Flood is a typical symptom of the divine retribution.
And in this book, I also wanted people to understand more about this divine retribution, because when we are forcing people to eat insects, and insects are connected to the Antichrist, because the Antichrist is depicted by the Theosophical Society as the god Apollo, as the incarnation of the god Apollo.
Apollo, in ancient times, was the god of the locus.
So, you are basically Pushing people to eat insects?
You are welcoming, probably, an anti-Christ sort of figure who will, of course, be able to manifest wonders, because once you have the support of the quantum computers and the AI, you will be able to literally start to create cracks in this reality.
It's going to be quite incredible to see what will be able to manifest from all this.
So, the transgender type stuff, is that part of the deception and part of the, you know, like breaking down all of these things?
I saw, because I read the introduction and started into Chapter 1.
You mentioned, I thought this was like, whoa, you got to be kidding me!
That the European Union Parliament had a homosexual exhibit with homosexuals around Jesus Christ.
Let me show that real quick.
I looked it up.
I'm like, no, no way.
And here it is.
Here it is.
I couldn't believe it.
So they had in the European Union.
So you're saying that, you know, there can be retribution.
You go too far outside God's realm and he's going to like, you know, crack down.
Crazy.
Like I said in my book, the European Union main building in Brussels is building the same kind of project like the Tower of Babel.
They had so many people criticizing them because it's reminiscent of the Tower of Babel that they had to make an official statement about it.
Saying, oh no, no, it's not the Tower of Babel.
I mean, you don't make an official statement if you're not guilty, you know, so otherwise you just ignore it.
Here you're showing this so-called artist from Sweden Who has presented this abomination, I don't call it art, my friend, because I mean, it's just a little bit, it's a bit too much.
I think we should call it, we should call it for what it is.
This is a deliberate act of heresy planted in the heart of Europe to destroy The remains of Christianity because the Judeo-Christian society that has created Europe is being destroyed from within and their values are completely twisted and perverted.
And just like the Tower of Babel that, you know, symbolizes going too high in front of God and being like Prometheus, you know, but then in the end You are cast back down to hell, where you belong.
Once God gets angry, then things get out of control.
And that is also something that I wanted to explain in this book regarding the divine retribution.
So, we have, of course, a lot to say about all the subjects and the topics that I discuss in this book, but it was important to make people understand, yes, we might be Meeting the Antichrist.
We might be in front of all this negativity, this evil, but remember that God doesn't just stand there watching all this without doing anything.
You also talk about, because you have seven chapters, they're really into seven and nine, so this is the ninth book, and you have seven chapters.
Tell us about the number, because God always says, you always have these miracles happen, and there's some kind of numbering that happens with that, but these guys like to play God, and they force numbers on us.
Well, first of all, we go back to the Gnostics and the Gnostics because, of course, the Gnostics were absolutely obsessed with everything that is surrounding us is evil and is ruled by the seven Archons, the seven planets.
It's like what we as Christians or even Jewish people or Muslims see as a God that can be tough but is also benevolent, for the Gnostics that God is always evil, is always oppressing us.
So for the Gnostics they have to find a way to bypass him, but they Think they can really do whatever they want because in the end they don't believe in God.
They believe that they eventually can become like God.
And that is another big problem.
The Illuminati have this constant belief that sooner or later, through Alchemy, through transformation, through what they used to call the Philosopher's Stone, the Elixir of Vita, and all that, they can finally emulate God.
And that's why, with the AI, they hope to achieve immortality.
And that's why, with Step One of my Confessions, I discuss Pierre Terras de Cardin, but also Ray Kurzweil, what is known as the Omega Point, or the point, basically, of transformation, the infinity, which means the merging of man with machine.
Transhumanism is basically, and this is not my words, but actually the words of the author of the Amazon Illuminati document, which I published in chapter one, it's almost like transhumanism for them is the new Freemasonry.
It's just insane.
It's like they want to craft a new being that is able to conquer the stars, the planets, go beyond this planet.
And that's why they see people like me and you who still think in the traditional way, you know, who think we are made in a, you know, we are perfect because we have been made in the image of God.
Of course, we will be We will die, we will live, we will be, you know, we will do all the things that since the beginning of time we have done in the image of God we have been created though.
And instead, when you start mixing, and that's why the transgender agenda is so important and relevant, and it's promoted, and it wasn't done in any day.
That exhibition that you showed some images was done on the 1st of May, the day of the foundation of the Illuminati.
So it's not a coincidence, it was done on a specific day.
The Illuminati had been promoting the Communists, the Socialists, that eventually corrupted the whole of Freemasonry.
Freemasonry, when it was born as a Grand Lodge in 1717, but it was also prior to that living in singular lodges, it was Christian.
In 1770, it was put together, a speculative Freemason with a centralized organization, the Grand Lodge, so that Christians who have been fighting themselves in England and, you know, there was literally People who had to flee England, as you know, and came this side of the world, here in America, because of it.
So there was a lot of insight, in fact, from Christians.
And with Freemasonry, at the beginning, the idea was to get them back under one organization, And that's why the Constitution of Freemasonry was written by a reverend, Reverend Anderson, and that's why initially Freemasonry was open only to Christians.
Freemasonry was open only to Christians and is still, in some countries, open only to Christians, like in the Swedish Reich.
Then, unfortunately, like I told you earlier, Freemasonry immediately got infiltrated, all these people arrived proposing different rites, I give you degrees, I give you secret teachings about Jesus, about this, about that, and then suddenly we arrive then to 1870s when then the Grand Orient of France makes that decision of letting the atheists in their lodges, and then at that point we have even Vladimir Lenin
In 1905 with the Grand Orient of the Russian People that will eventually help the building of the Russian Revolution.
That is another important chapter of my book to explain really the role of Freemasonry in the war in Ukraine.
And not only the role of Freemasonry, but the role of all the various secret societies.
Going back to the number seven because of course otherwise we will be going, I will be not answering to your question.
The fact that in step seven of my confessions I talk about number seven is also because the seven planets have also been associated by alchemists who were not Gnostics with the various Archangels.
So God emanates through these planets and so we know that of course everything was absorbed in a way, it was absorbed And then, of course, Atlantis with the seven islands and that constituted the rest of what were the continents back then.
The number seven has always been very, very important.
And for that reason, I decided to discuss the importance of the number seven in this book, which also is based on the ladder of life, on Jacob's ladder, even if, like I said earlier when I started the interview, not always going up.
But, you know, in some of the depictions of Jacob's ladder, we actually see the angels going up and then going back down, so it's a continuous.
And In the number seven, you have the seven planetary spheres, and finally through the walls of the Zodiac, it continues this divine light emanating from what the Jews called the Yod, which is also very important as an emanation of God.
It's connected to Jacob's Ladder, it's of course connected to the beliefs of the alchemists, the beliefs of Freemasonry, the beliefs of the Pythagoreans that considered the number seven as the image and model of the divine order and harmony in nature.
And without the Pythagoreans, we would not have the foundation, the ground foundation for today, because they built the geometry that is literally surrounding us, the architecture and everything that surrounds us, the golden ratio.
As we know, it was of course a concept that was also filtered through their teachings.
And in the teaching of the alchemists, the seven planetary angels are Michael, which is Saturn, Piper Dei, Gabriel, Jupiter, Uriel, Mars, Zerachiel, Sun, Camuel, Venus, Raphael, Mercury, and Zophiel, the Moon.
But like I said, while for us these are emanations of God that we cherish, that we respect, for the Gnostics instead these are the archons that are oppressing us, that are caging us, that are keeping us enslaved, and we have to bypass all this so we can be the elite and the rest of the people can still continue living in slavery.
This is the idea, no?
But then also there is the other important concept that really you gather from this book.
And before we go back to Ukraine, which I think is a very important topic, and it's a topic of course of eliminating part of mankind, because of course now they have the robots, the machines, the AI, they don't need us.
And it's a sad conclusion.
When you see Harari talking about the useless class openly, saying, well, what are we going to let them do?
Well, Harari responds and says, now at the moment, they're going to be playing video games, doing drugs.
Gradually, we're going to eliminate them, basically.
Because he's basically saying, at the moment, we are giving this.
He's not saying how we're going to eliminate them.
But of course, when you see a rally, when you see the Great Reset, and then you see, of course, what happened with the pandemic, you understand how they want to eliminate us.
And it's only the beginning, because then you have the war.
You know, we discussed the Codex Alimentarius, which, of course, is conducted with their own tax money.
But also we have the useless wars in places like Ukraine that are conducted with our money.
And the whole conflict in Ukraine can't be understood without understanding that the actual place Ukraine was artificially constructed as a national identity in the last two centuries by secret societies, some of them working directly for the Illuminati.
And this is not like Some kind of speculation.
As you know, in my books, I'm very much into facts, not fiction, and into proving everything with the relative sources, the relative citations.
In fact, I like to show people my new book here, and at the end, of course, you have pages and pages and pages, I don't know how many exactly, but only of citations.
And all dissertations, of course, have to be from accurate sources that can't be debunked.
So there's a lot of work to do that.
But this book is made in a way that, of course, the enemy, either he burns this book, he censors this book, which probably in a few years might happen, unfortunately.
But for the moment, we are lucky enough to purchase this book.
Still, it's possible to purchase a book like that.
I don't know for how long that is possible, though.
Because, you know, the censorship is increasing.
And when we are talking about Ukraine... Yeah, in fact, I just heard that France has stopped rumble from being played in France.
And the same with Canada.
They no longer allow rumble.
Yeah, my friend told me that already a couple months ago.
They basically block people from following rumble in France.
It's insane.
It's sad.
Because, I mean, It shouldn't happen in the Western world, okay?
It happens in North Korea.
It happens in China.
But, I mean, these places are communist hellholes.
You'd never imagine that that kind of thing would happen in France, which, you know, used to be Liberté!
What liberté if you can't even see Rambo?
It's insane.
I'm very disappointed that in France the situation is this way.
I'm very disappointed that they still have a guy like Macron, that they have re-elected a guy like Macron because he was re-elected.
So it means that people... He was put there.
I don't think he was elected.
Well, I mean, eventually People will get angry, but then we see that every time they get angry, they go in the streets, you know, they did it for years with the yellow vest.
They didn't really come up with anything, because let's not forget that the revolution in France was also orchestrated by the Illuminati.
So, I mean, if you don't have the support of these people, and in France you have the Grand Orient of France, which Macron is part of, Right.
So France now is basically Muslim dominated.
I saw an article you wrote on that.
So it's like two churches are attacked every day in France.
It's out of control.
And the liberal Freemasonry is pretty much allowing it and promoting it.
But they're also, like in Sweden, I think in Norway, I think it might have been Norway, they're allowing the burning of the Koran.
So I don't think the Muslims are going to play with these guys much longer.
That is happening in Sweden and unfortunately is happening that they are of course instigating, you know, they do it to instigate.
It's simply, you know, an act and of course they do it to create more confusion.
We know that Sweden is pushing not only this wild immigration that in the end is changing the very nature of Swedish society, and I'm talking about this from the perspective of somebody who has lived many years in Scandinavia.
I used to live in Norway, lived in Oslo for many years, and of course I viewed how this Very polite.
You know, Scandinavians are very polite people.
Maybe we're too polite.
And then, you know, they let these immigrants take over entire cities until in the end they even have the Sharia implemented in parts of Sweden.
So it's insane what is happening in Sweden.
But at the same time, you know, Ukraine, for example, Ukraine that wants to be part of Europe, wants to be part of this hellhole, and you know that basically it's always controlled through military bases and IMF debts.
and other strategical tools of oppression.
That is basically what's happening now.
And Ukraine is completely bought by the West because it was gradual, this whole thing.
It started two centuries ago.
And I explain in my book a number of secret societies that started, and there were some of them were not very successful when they were too close to Russia.
Other ones, instead, that opposed Russia, opposed the Orthodox Church, were more successful.
And then in the 90s, after the fall of the Soviet Union, as we know, Ukraine was the first country in which George Soros established his Open Society, but at the same time, they established a Masonic Order known as the International Order of Saint Stanislaus.
And this international order, which is, it's an order which is, it used to be actually an old order belonging to the Russian Empire, but then it went to Poland, and then at one point they created this Polish-Ukrainian order, and in the 90s it became the most powerful group, and from that group the whole of Ukraine was actually created.
The symbol of their armed forces is the symbol of the order of Stanislas,
So, it's actually, you know, like, literally, and at the same time, we have, of course, the Vatican that is not helping out, because the Vatican has no interest in Orthodox country that, you know, where Catholics were a minority, and actually is aiming to persecute more and more this minority loyal, of course, to Russia.
And there was also schism A few years back, which I discuss in this book from the Orthodox Church of Russia by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, that happened actually in a meeting where there was also the new head, the guy who inherited the leadership of the P2 General Savoy from Romania.
So, this whole... and then, of course, what happened after the meeting?
The Ukrainian church simply broke off the Russian church because then they were, you know, able to work more with their propaganda against anything Russian.
I mean, there is really the great reset agenda in place in Ukraine for a number of years because, like I also described in my book, this is a country that claims to want to become the first digital nation in the world.
Before the war even started, like I show in my book, Zelensky was working with this whole app which now includes your ID, your passport, your credit card, everything in one single app.
Wow.
I mean, it's a diabolical thing, but So the Ukrainian, you talk about, I saw a little note here, Ukrainian occult war against Russia where they're basically, the witches and everything are sending spells to Russia.
That is another part of my book in which I Describe with facts and with documents what has been happening since the beginning of this war, when people who, of course, in the past casted spells against Donald J. Trump, for example, or hexed Trump regularly.
You know, Michael Hughes was even published a book I actually have it, this book here.
I mean, it's just insane.
Yeah, it was all in the press.
All the witches were like casting spells.
They even had it.
I saw articles on it.
Casting spells and it made it look all funny.
It's like, no, they were doing it.
They were like, No, no, they were doing it.
Like I explained in this book, in the first days of the war, when the Russians went into Ukraine, they found evidence that they were doing satanic masses.
That was actually reported by RT, and immediately after they reported that, they brought down RT in the whole of the West.
Boom!
Censored the whole, you know, TV.
So, they actually found evidence and then there was this group known as the Knights of Chaos, which are connected to a guy called Carol, who was the creator of the Chaos Magic and the Illuminati of Thanateros.
The Illuminati of Thanateros, born in the 70s, are directly sponsored by George Soros.
I mean, they seem like Really awkward, bizarre group of magic and nobody will even imagine that.
But I had a direct experience with one of these people and I discovered that, you know, I ended up one night sleeping on top of the Ukrainian embassy in St.
Petersburg.
Back in the days, I'm talking about Over 20 years ago.
But what happened was that these people were connected, very well connected, and it happened that one day I missed a flight.
I was supposed to go back to Norway, to Oslo, from St.
Petersburg, and they said, no problem, we have An apartment, a piano, a luxury apartment, on top of the Ukrainian embassy.
So we go, I remember still going, and I didn't really know much about Ukraine, to tell you the truth.
I was rather ignorant back then about Ukraine.
I just knew that they made a good borscht soup, but apart from that, I didn't know much.
I went up the stairs, I remember, and I saw the symbol of the embassy, you know, the symbol of Ukraine.
I said, what is this symbol?
This is Ukraine.
We are upstairs.
I said, okay, fine.
So then I wanted to know their connection.
And so they told me about Soros financing the whole thing.
These were members of the OTO who were also members of the Illuminati of Thanateros.
Wow.
And so I had that confirmation of this.
So when I'm talking about it, it's also because of my direct experience.
I'm a guy who has gone probably to Russia Maybe between 20 to 30 times in my life.
I worked for the Ministry of Culture in Russia, I did a lot of things in Russia.
I was a record producer, a DJ as you know, but I was also somebody who used to broadcast on the radio and I even had a radio show in Russia.
At one point I went on the news, I remember, they used my They use even a frame, I remember, from one of these shows that they did on TV in Russia, and they included it, you know, like every night you have the news, so with little images here and there, the Pope, the thing, and there was my image also, so imagine that!
I had the possibility to encounter Putin two times during my visits in Russia.
I participated to this event, the Bolshoi for the Children Victims of Terrorism, and a musician called Billy Cobham, very talented drummer, very famous also.
And in my time in Russia, I understood also how the West was trying to buy influence and create alternative parties that could eventually grasp attention and create problems.
Nowadays we have that guy, Navalny, whatever, the dissident, who has been given many more years of jail.
Well, This is because, of course, it was sponsored by people like Soros, and so Russia wanted to, of course, avoid that kind of thing.
But going back to Ukraine, I also talked about the lies of this war and also the importance of a figure that has Jewish-Ukrainian parents And he's very well known, known as Alejandro Jodorowsky.
I don't know if you ever heard of him.
Jodorowsky has made two movies that are quite important in the underground.
One is called El Topo, and the other one is called The Holy Mountain.
Now, in this Holy Mountain, There is a lot of occult symbolism and a lot of stuff which I will invite people to go and check out because he is, of course, an occultist.
He's connected himself to the Illuminati and he has... And this film, you know who produced this movie?
John Lennon and Yoko Ono.
Wow.
The money for this movie.
So, and it's a very bizarre movie, let me tell you, but it has also a lot of occult messages, also regarding war, the war, and also regarding the LGBT.
This is the movie that really foresaw the future.
At one point, this Jesus-like guy wakes up in front of these non-drug queens, and he's kind of shocked, you know, and he's brought into this In a reality which at the time when this movie came out, and it was of course the early 70s, it seemed very far-fetched.
But nowadays, when you have the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, you know, and this B.S.
performing for the Pride Day and all that, it's actually a reality.
So, I wanted to explain also what I thought the Holy Mountain could bring To people who don't know the Illuminati and their traditions.
As you can see, there is a lot of symbolism in that poster of the film.
Yeah, a lot of money burning, all kind of crazy stuff, yeah.
All kinds of stuff, and it's gonna be not an easy watch, but if you want to learn more about the Illuminati, also because it kind of plays also with the idea of the Archons, of the Seven Archons, of the Archons dominating the society, each one Dominating a specific part of society.
Because remember that the idea that the Gnostics have, the Alchemists, is that in any case these planetary spirits influence specific sections of our living.
So each planet has a specific... just like, you know, the astrologers say this planet influences you, this is how they view things.
And Regarding instead the secret societies that build the Ukrainian identity, of course I leave it to the book, but we start from the Malorussian secret brotherhood, the brotherhood of Saint Cyril and Methodius.
We have various secret societies that I mean, I go back 200 years, so people can go through these secret societies in Ukraine and understand how, you know, Poland, Prussia were always trying, you know, Germany basically, and Poland were always trying to build this Ukrainian identity against Russia, and they needed the help of these secret societies.
Because Madame Blavatsky was born in Dnipro, Ukraine.
Wow!
Oh my God!
That is, you know, without Barabásky you would not have anything, because the birth of the Theosophical Society represents the perfect playground for the future Satanists.
So, without the Theosophical Society we would not have probably had Aleister Crowley, we would not have had Michael Aquino, we would not have had even Anton Labey, we would probably not have had all this evil, which would have probably been much better, but unfortunately that's how it is.
So, to understand more about Ukraine and how the secret societies of Ukraine operate and how... I think that if today we went to Madame Blavatsky and we said, what is your national identity?
She would have probably said, I'm Russian.
She was actually accused of being a Russian agent, a Russian spy.
You know, she would have never said, I'm Ukrainian because I'm born in Dnipro.
Because still, they were trying to build that You know, they did it in 1893.
Keeping that secret back then, wow.
Yeah, well, even back then there was secret societies that were trying to establish the Ukrainian identity, and they were, of course, constantly arrested and persecuted, because as soon as the Tsar, as the Russians understood what was happening, they would, of course, eliminate those secret societies.
Also because people understand, but Ukraine, what does Ukraine mean?
Ukraine means borderland.
It's not a country, it's a borderland.
Wow.
It has this actual meaning.
Supposed to be that separation between Russia and the West.
But you don't go and establish yourself in the borderland which has been there for centuries under the supervision of Russia.
It's like if Russia was starting to do the same with Mexico, I think we will have a problem with that.
I think it will be way too close for us.
But actually, to tell you the truth, Russia and China are starting to have a lot to say in Mexico and in Canada.
Because, you know, with the corruption that we have with the leaders here in the United States being so weak.
Also regarding Freemasonry, There is in my book all the testimony from the present Russian Grandmaster who, by the way, was last week at the Russian Africa Summit.
I even have his picture of the Russian Grandmaster.
He was there.
He was actually also in Brazil before.
You know, Brazil is part of the BRICS.
And he supports Putin, and of course he got into a clash with the Ukrainian Grandmaster, who is of course... and so in my book I explain what has been going on since the beginning of the war between these two factions also.
Oh, that's gonna be... I can't wait to read that.
Fascinating, yeah.
Yeah, a lot of fascinating stuff.
I mean, Anatoly Dimchuk is The Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Ukraine.
But I personally interviewed the Deputy Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Russia.
There is actually interviews you can find on YouTube.
So, I mean, my experience, of course, as usual, comes from a direct experience.
And there is also another direct experience of great importance.
So do you see Russia as basically going against evil when they're fighting Ukraine?
What's your thoughts?
See, the thing is here, you know, we have to be very careful, but from my understanding and from being a person who has traveled this world freely without, you know, the supervision of governments imposing their own views on me, so I was able to make my own mind up about things.
I can say that definitely we are not on the right part of history when we are waging war against Russia or we are basically indulging in this, you know, supporting Ukraine, giving them weapons, giving them money.
It's something that is very dangerous, it's something that we shouldn't be doing.
And so it's actually part of the Great Reset, of course.
They know exactly, you know, that pushing this war means pushing another crisis that will mean also the death of many people.
In the end, they are aiming for the reduction of the global population.
Like I explained in this book, though, Ukraine has this They created this revolution of dignity in 2014.
They called it a revolution of dignity.
In reality, it was a coup.
But what people don't know, and I explain in my book, is that in the year prior to that, They created an Academy of the Illuminati under Giuliano Di Bernardo, who was the guy who brought back Freemasonry to Ukraine in the 90s.
I actually have also some videos about him going to Ukraine and raising the first Freemasons and stuff.
And Giuliano Di Bernardo, we go back to this guy who was the guy involved also with that document of transhumanism, so Giuliano Di Bernardo has always been very influential and the fact that he created an order Or the dignity order and that after now Ukraine has even a day of dignity.
Imagine how influential he has been in that culture.
I remember one guy told me he went there once and he made a speech about the ideal illuminated dictator and apparently Zelensky was in the crowd and he was like But many other people were actually not so happy about what they were hearing from this guy.
However, in the end, as we have seen, unfortunately, they prevailed.
We have this situation which is very dangerous, which could bring us of course to an extension of the war across the border in Poland, the whole of NATO could become involved.
We will be at that point sending our youngsters to war for a war that we should never have been involved in the first place.
Yeah, it appears they're trying to expand it into Africa too.
Well, Africa is also a very important aspect.
So Africans are wanting to kick out the U.S.
and France, and there's going to be a little conflict there.
And Russia's trying to get involved and help the Africans, but they're going to be projected as being, you know, trying to Build their influence like they have in the past.
Africa in the last few years has been already a territory of conquest for China.
China works with Russia.
Russia, of course, now can take advantage of the destabilization of Niger, through Mali and through other countries where they already have the Wagner in place.
This whole thing also with the Prigogine was such a fear.
I was laughing when I saw it the first few days and all the lies I had for the media.
I was like, but these guys are taking the piss out of everybody, you know?
At one point somebody said, what do you think is Prigogine?
I said, these are the Kremlin having a laugh with Putin.
This is ridiculous, you know?
But the media were like, oh yeah, Prigogine.
I mean it's a coup, yeah I know, but in reality all this was so they could bring all the Prigogine militias to Belarus where this summer they're moving a bunch of nuclear weapons, so that was the meaning of the whole thing, the real
You know, nobody's talking, and now they're starting to, oh well, Prigogine is actually, you know, the Wagner are basically extracting there the army of Belarus, and at the same time we have, finally, they're starting to maybe get it, but so much lies from the press
I know that truth is always the first victim when there is a war, but this time, guys, we are really going over the top, also with this idea that Ukraine is counter-offensive.
It's not a counter-offensive, this is a slaughter!
They're killing thousands of Ukrainians each day, and in the end, remember, when they will end, all the Ukrainians will be killed, Because if they continue for a number of years, then you're not going to have any more.
Then they're going to have to employ mercenaries.
And we will pay for that.
We will pay for them.
Imagine this.
Europe doesn't have much money.
So now they came up with the brilliant idea that from next year, they will be taxing every US citizen that goes into Europe with a visa tax.
So then they can give that money to Zelensky.
And everybody's like, but we never paid any visa to come to Europe.
Well, thank you, President.
It's called Joe Biden.
So unfortunately, that's how it is.
You know, we have to be a little bit honest about this.
So in my book, though, I gave a important explanation also of the behind the scenes of what connected Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, the early The advent of communism in Russia, also Gnosticism within the Soviet Union, the importance of Gnosticism in the Soviet Union and what it led to.
So I think that people will be positively impressed with everything I have put together in this book.
And then also to finally lift the veil on this war.
Explaining what is really happening.
Also, magically, of course, the magical attacks that they are doing, you know, the satanic influence and satanic support that they have for Ukraine.
I mean, the satanic temple posts, tweets, supports, all the satanic organizations are supporting Ukraine.
And so, I think that when you said to me before, what side are you on?
I'm definitely not on the side of Satan, so I can't be on the same side of Satan.
If being on the side of Ukraine means being with these people which I despise, which I don't like, which actually made my life a living hell when I was in Europe, And I was forced to leave Europe because a lot of people maybe don't know that, but I was forced to leave Europe to avoid arrest, to avoid my passport being taken and all the rest.
So I... You and Olay Demagard.
So I had both of you on a magical show where you guys just... Myself and Juan Osevin were like, Oh my God, you guys were like incredible.
Yeah.
But, I mean, it was a very good show.
I liked it very much.
In fact, I posted it myself on my channel.
It was a very important, I think, moment.
It was.
You know, sometimes when different minds encounter each other and come up with things like that, it's very important.
Like I said, we need to be ready and I think also that people need to know that when they wanted to eat insects, it's also part of a ritual.
It's all part of a ritual.
It's all part of a ritual.
To make us, to neglect our humanity, to transform us in something that is of course a monstrosity in the eyes of God.
But I think that when people wake up and understand all this, then they also understand we don't have much time.
And then what are you going to do?
Well, you're going to have to find solutions.
Because at one point you might be forced to simply go off the grid, to avoid the mark of the beast, to avoid being part of this monstrosity, to avoid being poisoned.
Because it's about being poisoned, it's about being forced into this curse.
that of course people don't know much about but it's a part also of the Codex Alimentarius which they instituted in the early 60s so they could force us to eat the bugs or eat all this cultured meat which is also another monstrosity.
Just recently the US has given the possibility for shops to sell this cultured meat and that is I mean, disgusting!
Then at the same time we have the United Nations, the United Nations of Satan, because the United Nations have an historical link to the Theosophical Society, which I explain in my book, and it's a link that goes quite far back, right at the foundations of the League of the Nations and then of the United Nations, With people not only like Madame Blavatsky, Annie Besant, but also Alice Bailey.
And when you see how these people have been involved, I mean, why an organization that aims to teach you some mystery school tradition is involved with the United Nations?
And actually, as the Lucius Trust, they even have a permanent seat in the United Nations.
It's quite incredible all this, and pushing also in the new age movement the idea of a golden age, which is really also what we have said earlier, no?
It's not really a golden age, but they are pushing this idea of the golden age.
More and more.
Don't worry, we're gonna have this golden age, we're gonna ban meat, we're gonna ban everything, all your cows are gonna disappear, you're gonna own nothing and you're gonna be happy.
And all of this coincides both with the agenda for Agenda 2030 and for the Great Reset of Klaus Schwab.
So, It's about preparing ourselves and understanding that we want to continue with our traditional diet, we want to continue with our traditional values, but for how long when you have the new generations that are completely brainwashed?
It's not easy and I don't know if... and that's why I think that this book would be great if it's also read by the new generations.
Yeah.
The people who maybe don't really... never have even... that's why I made it kind of like a book that can be read also by people who never read my past books.
Yeah.
It's your masterpiece.
I really believe it is.
Thank you so much.
You want to read all your books, but if you're just coming into this, this is a great book.
It'll probably whet your appetite and you want to go and read the rest of them.
That's what I'm thinking.
Because I started reading this, like I talked about, and I didn't want to do anything else.
Just stop the world.
Let me read this book.
That would be great.
When we get off here, I'm going to start reading again.
I've been reading off and on whenever I get a chance all day, so I can't wait.
Thank you so much.
I know that you are always an avid reader of my book, but I'm also thankful because you understand the importance of this book in particular, because it relates to what we are living now.
And it relates to how we can keep ourselves safe and our families safe, both physically and also mentally.
And make people understand, you know, the politicians, no matter who they are, they are simply useful idiots.
And useful idiots that are being used by the establishment Because when you have a real problem, then who are they calling?
They're calling the elite, they're calling people like Henry Kissinger to sort things out, even if he's a hundred years old.
Hey, Henry, come and help us, you know?
But the politicians themselves, Henry Kissinger is much more than a politician.
He kind of like, he borrowed himself to politics for a number of years, but he continued For many more as a non-politician, because he is a typical example of a modern-day Illuminati.
And then people, you know, have to understand, really, once and for all, that we can't continue with this anti-Semitism.
We have to understand, really, who is behind all this.
And it's heretics.
Heretics in Judaism, heretics in Christianity, heretics in various other religions, but these are The Illuminati are not Christians.
They are not.
They might pretend to be Christians at times, because that's what serves their purpose from the beginning, but when they have been teaching in their own lodges, that basically what the masses are receiving is a fake, distorted version of Christianity, imagine only that!
It's so sick!
So I'm glad that these people, like you, who have a past experience, who understand where we are heading, that give importance to this book.
Because, unfortunately, there is also a lot of ego in these people who claim to be researchers on the internet.
And I didn't do this book to build my ego.
I just built this book because I have this knowledge and I want to spread it and share it with all of you guys.
And that's why my books are also always sold for a very modest price.
You know, somebody just told me, you know, I bought this book, but I thought it would be much more expensive.
You're selling, you're underselling.
And I actually, at one point, Amazon every time has to force us to put the price up because when the cost price goes up, we just, and I'm like my wife, I don't want to If possible, she says, listen, Amazon has said that the minimum is this, but we keep it always to the lower, so we can have a minimum, of course, so we can carry on in my work, in my research, in my activities.
But in the end, I'm doing these books as a mission.
And so, if you read this book and you think You know, you've been brought for a ride or that what I'm saying is not correct.
Well, then at that point, I would like to know why.
Because, you know, when you go, for example, in the mystery of the United Nations, you know, and I explain to the people How Joe Biden married Jill Biden in the United Nations and why they married in the United Nations.
And the guy who celebrated the wedding was a Jesuit, but they didn't because she was a divorcee and not even a Catholic and they couldn't marry in a regular church.
So they suddenly marry in the United Nations, and in the United Nations you have the meditation room with this big magnet where they have the power of the egregore that they put together.
An egregore is a thought form by an awkward chain of people that they represent, and that egregore is manifested through this big magnet.
Have you ever seen the meditation room of the United Nations?
It has giant magnets, it looks like a monolith.
It's a little bit like bringing us back also to the topics discussed in that prophetic movie 2001 Space Odyssey.
Which, by the way, brings us also the subject of Al-9000.
And in fact, in my book, I explain how NASA, for the 50th anniversary, started an artificial companion that emulates Al-9000 in 2018 for the spaceships.
So it's like, you know...
It's no longer science fiction.
We are in front of a reality that exceeds any expectations.
And then in this book, there is a whole chapter about the Faustian pact, how the Illuminati sold and sell their soul to the devil to rule the world.
And I, of course, leave this to the readers because otherwise I don't leave anything to the readers.
Let me tell you that there is a Faustinian bargain, even in regards to this technology that we have.
Because with these entities, they have done a bargain.
And the idea The Faustinian bargain concept, where is it born?
It's born in Germany.
And who is born in Germany?
The Illuminati.
And who wrote about Faust?
Goethe.
And Goethe was a member of the Illuminati.
In fact, in this book, I also include his own oath in the Illuminati.
And it represents a big change, the version of Faust by Goethe, because he introduces the wager, the bet.
The fact that the Illuminati no longer believe that they will end up in hell after, you know, after their deal with the devil.
They do a bet with the devil.
They think that they can maybe outsmart him.
This is insane!
And that is the belief that these people really have.
The digital revolution, also known as the third industrial revolution, Which is evolving, of course, from mechanical, analog, to digital, and to, of course, AI and cyber-Satan, is part of this Faustinian bargain.
But there is also, of course, those rituals that are used.
And it's not a coincidence that in the last few years we have this robot going around called Sophia.
Te-o-so-fia.
Phi-lo-so-fia.
Sophia is not a normal name.
It's like, it represents a name that is just as important as Gnosis for the Illuminati.
The fact that they have this robot, they even gave this robot an official recognition in the United Nations.
We had, not so long ago, a presentation of all these robots in a press conference.
I mean, we are approaching just a level which was unimaginable before, and most of the things that you might read might seem like science fiction level stuff.
It's not.
It's reality.
Including the mind transfer, which was paraded in that film ten years ago, that transcendence with Johnny Depp, which featured also a small cameo by Elon Musk.
It was just an introduction to that topic, which is a very important topic.
Mind transfer is something the Illuminati are believing is one of their options.
When the body is completely degenerated, even when you have all the nanobots saving you for a few decades longer than you're supposed to live, well, at that point, they will upload their brain into the quantum computer, which they can't afford.
Quantum computers are cooled with helium.
They are not something that you can just buy with a few thousand dollars.
You need millions.
And so at that point, me and you would be left out of the club.
Well, thank God we are.
Thank God.
But imagine these people.
Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Obama, or anybody that has enough money, resources, connections, will be part of the very exclusive Quantum Computers Supreme Council.
That is going to be their exclusive movement, their exclusive takeover of the planet.
Wow.
And we will not be able to do anything because if we do something, they unleash the quantum computer on us.
They will erase our bank accounts and everything, crypto, anything we have in a second.
So then we need to also find alternatives.
Gold, And something more substantial in front of that kind of threat, I think.
Yeah.
So I think I gave you a very wide spectrum of everything I discussed in this book today.
I always want to thank you because you are very kind with me in going and digging very deep into the subject.
Anything else you would like to ask regarding this book?
Yeah I mean uh I and everybody in the chat right here like we could listen to you for hours and hours and like it's that you're it's like you you you go on uh you talk about one of the One thing, and then you go deep down a rabbit hole and then you come back and you talk a little bit and you go down another deep rabbit hole.
And it's like, you just have so much unbelievable information.
Uh, it's just incredible.
You see, remember this, God has put me on this planet in this moment to front an enemy, which soon will be able to computer brain interface.
So I am going to have to be just as good because soon I'm going to have to have I'm going to be fronting people that will have knowledge just as equal as mine.
But of course they are working with CyberSeed and they will have this computer brain interface so they will have access to the database in real time and they will be able to debate me.
Having said that, I still hope that with my faith in God I can overcome even that problem.
In this book I also explain how conjuring the devil is something, of course, that doesn't always bring you You know, what you aim for.
In fact, I described the story of this guy who killed a couple of young girls a couple of years ago.
He was basically, he's a 19 year old, He went and used this very old grimoire to evoke Lucifuge Rofocale.
It's a very classical grimoire, and he killed a 46-year-old and a 27-year-old in the park there in Wembley, in North London, because he claimed that he had promised to sacrifice them To Lucifer, basically, in exchange of something.
Did he get something?
No.
He got jail.
He got jail time.
He's still in jail, no?
So, it's about, of course, a much more insidious bargain with the devil that we have to be careful of, not these insane individuals that maybe just open a grimoire and go on.
There is, of course, people group of people, occult chains, that do human sacrifice for a specific aim.
And that is such a big problem with the African community, even here in America.
We have noticed, for example, a relaunch of Louisiana voodoo in the last few decades.
Yeah.
It was almost faded out, you know.
I mean, it had, of course, it was rather big until the end of the 19th century, then it kind of faded out.
Instead, now it's coming back.
And even Nicolas Cage went to that voodoo priestess that in New Orleans has this big temple to get a blessing when he got married with the daughter of Elvis Presley.
And how did she end up?
Yeah, not so good.
She died recently.
So I mean, you have to be very careful when you deal with this kind of forces.
And so I always suggest to people, OK, you see the occult imagery, but don't be... I mean, some people say, oh, maybe if I bring in my home all this occult imagery, I will be a victim of it.
No, this is not a book.
This is not a grimoire.
This is not a book.
This is a book to denounce.
these things, to denounce the evil that these things represent.
And so when you take on reading this book, remember, it's not about promoting your cult.
It's about knowing about certain things.
Because once you know about the certain things, you can defend yourself better.
That is my concept, at least, my idea.
It's always been my ideas, you know, also in my past books.
There is also, of course, Certain things that I teach in this book that maybe an ordinary Christian will never have access to.
So I think it's rather important also to know, for example, for an ordinary, for a Christian, to know what the Illuminati and the Freemasons teach about Jesus.
I think it's very, very, very important.
Absolutely, absolutely.
And I love, I love how you dedicated this book to God.
And in the introduction, I'm going to read a little passage here, the very first part of your introduction.
To find the right solution, you need to know what the problems are, and there have always been problems in life, some requiring new and different strategies.
The skeptics will say that there have always been wars, and that natural disasters have plagued humanity for thousands of years.
Societies have fallen with violence, and it's happened for centuries.
For those that believe that, there is nothing to see or read in this new book.
For those who appreciated my past books and my perseverance and my lifelong mission against Satan and the enemies of humanity who support him, this will be an extraordinary journey.
So that's, that's, I read that and I'm like, I am going to read every word here in this book.
That's good.
Yeah, because, you know, people come to this realization too late in life, but now we are living in a time that is different from all times that preceded us.
So it's not about realizing only, of course, your closeness to God and what is your true pursuit in life, what you're aiming for, but it's also to understand that we never had before now this kind of insidious technologies pushed towards us.
There has never been a time like that.
If there was, maybe, before the flood, I don't know, but not in our, you know, we don't know.
I mean, there has been, of course, the fall of the Empire of Rome, and everybody says, oh, well, you know, it was much worse with the fall of the Empire of Rome.
There is some similarities, but I think maybe we can do better.
What are you talking about, man?
You were talking about the AI and a bunch of idiots that go for a PlayStation, inciting a riot in the center of New York.
Well, I don't think that this ever happened, even in the fall of Rome, that people were kind of killing each other or climbing on each other or shooting themselves in the hand for a PlayStation.
I mean, it's like For those people, there's nothing to see, like we said, because those people will always have something to say and will be always critical.
Yeah, Batsagami is exaggerating, or maybe this, but there's always been, you know, there's always been a war.
They always tell you that.
It's always been a war.
Yeah, but there has always been a war with Russia that has 6,000 nuclear missiles.
I don't know about that.
In a war that somebody claims will be won with the nation that has more nuclear missiles in the world, then you are really insane.
Then you should just be locked up, if you say something like that, because it doesn't make any sense.
It's not like a war with Iraq or a war with some demented country that, in the end, we're going to be able to corrupt or manipulate or bring towards us.
We're talking about a war that might end up in a Mad Max scenario.
And of course, that's what they want.
At times, I think that's what they want.
I hope not.
Yeah.
That's their motto, order out of chaos.
So yeah, they definitely are moving in that direction.
So thank you so much for also reading this beginning introduction so well.
You read it with a lot of feeling, because I guess that you understand my concept here, that there will be always people that say, well, this is no different from when we were about to have the Second World War in 1939.
Then, you know, you have the invasion of Poland and then it started.
Well, guys, If there is today an invasion of Poland... That's on the table, I think.
That's on the table, but getting out of it is not, you know, what we could get back then with the limited technology, because this technology has improved also the levels of killing ourselves.
And like Eric Kissinger himself wrote in a recent book, which I have on the AI, which he has Because Kissinger, you know, is over a hundred.
But on the contrary of Joe Biden, who is much younger, but is completely gone with his brain, probably used too much cocaine.
I don't know.
But just like his son, same father, same son, you know, so it must be somewhere along the line, his brain is gone.
There is only two people who could bring that kind of stuff in the White House.
One is Hunter, the other one is Obama, or the father.
So these people, of course, are completely opposite to all our values, and we hope that with this book a lot more people will come towards Well, we believe and understand that there is not much time left to construct an alternative society, an alternative society that can really
Be built around a messianic figure that is somebody who wants to sacrifice himself for the people.
That's another concept that I explained in this book regarding the difference between Plato and Karl Marx.
The fact that a lot of times people say, oh, well, Plato was a little bit of a communist.
No, he said that only the rich, the super rich, the mega rich, the people who are in power should be communists because they don't need any more money.
They so they should be just like leveled.
All the same, at that point.
While instead, the rest of society should continue to prosper with a capitalistic, what we call today, a capitalistic model.
Because otherwise, if you give communists to everybody, nobody has an incentive to do anything.
If I get the same money as a doctor, or the guy who is serving the sandwich at McDonald's, of course I'm not incentivizing, you know, there's no incentive here.
So it was very important for me to explain to people that Plato wanted to really promote a ruling class which was really sacrificing itself for the people
And have no personal gain or interest, not like Joe Biden who puts, you know, arrives there, places some, gives the money, all the deals, Buddhism, China, whatnot, and then his brother and the whole... Basically, this is a mob.
This is a mafia crime family.
And then going after the former president.
And all this, of course, distracts, though, from the real problems.
Because Then people forget how I end up the book.
And I know that people wonder how I end up the book, but there is one pic that just, I'm not going to tell you more, of course, but there's one pic, and this pic is Joe Biden in front of a quantum computer last year in November.
In the IBM headquarters.
Wow.
If you just google IBM Joe Biden November 2022 you will see some very interesting images of this encounter and how Biden was watching this object which in my book I associate to that
that object that was found deep under this church in the film The Prince of Darkness of John Carpenter, which a bunch of then quantum physics experts arrives there to solve this matter.
And you have literally, I mean, this film, I invite everybody to go and check out The Prince of Darkness of John Carpenter, because it has some elements that are prophetic, let's say.
All right.
It's a good way to end up, I guess, talking about the Prince of Darkness.
All right.
Leo, thanks so much.
And again, everyone, you can find his work on Amazon.
You'll definitely want to get this work.
And if you like it, which you probably have already read some of his books, but if this is your first one, you're going to be in for a treat.
And then, of course, you know, Leo has lots of books, so you can click on his name, and then you have the full range of his work.
So absolutely incredible.
So God is definitely on your side.
I will continue to pray, hope for inspiration for new books.
It was definitely a responsibility together with my wife who edited the book and who of course collaborates with me in this course on Perficient Publishing.
It was a responsibility to dedicate it to God.
And so we felt really a very particular energy During the whole process of doing this book as well as in the last days before publishing it and all the rest there was a lot of negative force that was thrown against us at times because you know you have the resistance element when you're fighting evil that is very strong
But both me and my wife in the end understood the importance of this project and we dedicated ourselves night and day to the realization of it and let us know.
And especially one thing that I would like to ask your viewers, please leave a review because I noticed one thing with this book and this never happened before.
I posted, you know, I published the book And after a few hours, I went on Facebook and I published the fact that it was number one in a specific section in Amazon.
I could say that it's something like that.
Immediately, because my profile is open also to people I don't know, who are not on my friend list, Because it was a public post.
Immediately, Antifa people, professors never heard of from leftist universities started attacking me.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
I had to block 10 people in half an hour.
And then suddenly I had only one review which was a five-star review.
My first reader who said, of course, who said this book is dedicated by God and inspired by God and this was his only review, a guy called I think Paul.
Then after what happened is they started to bombard the site even without reading probably even reading the book with negative reviews with the one-star reviews.
So I ask you to fight this Because I noticed that in the past a lot of people just purchased my book but then say, I don't want to leave a review, I don't, you know, I don't have time, whatever.
But this time is important because this book is a challenge to the system, a challenge to the Satanists, and we No, that we have hit on something when they start attacking in this way, you know?
I mean, they don't do that.
I mean, I never knew these people.
Who sent them to me?
So there must, of course, be, you know, when you, one guy, I remember one of the first people was a guy with the symbol of Antifa from Seattle.
I mean, literally the symbol of Antifa from Seattle.
I thought, okay, this is not normal.
So, but, I'm glad.
Like I said, it means that we are hitting on something.
It means that they are afraid of something.
They're not able yet to burn my books.
They're not able to censor them at the moment, at least, hopefully.
And so please purchase it, but leave also a preview.
I'll do that.
It doesn't mean I want a five-star review if you don't like the book.
If, of course, you like the book, it's preferable a five star rather than other, but like I said, it's important to just simply leave your opinion, your take on it, your honesty, because I think that, like you said, this book has something to say, and so I'm quite confident that people will appreciate my effort.
Yeah, it does make a difference.
Yeah, my books have been attacked as well.
So, it does make a difference when people come in and leave good ones because that outweighs the negative comments in there.
So, you can even tell Amazon, these people didn't read my book and the attacks they're doing and Amazon leaves them.
So, that's kind of suspect, but that is what it is, you know.
At least we can get our work out there and we can share this work and that's a conduit and it is what it is.
I'm looking forward to your new book.
Actually, I have to get my mother to send me your old book, which I have left in Italy.
Well, we'll have to send you another one.
That's no problem.
We have a second edition now of both my books.
Thanks to Brad.
Okay, Fred Brad.
Well, it's been a pleasure.
And of course, I hope that in the future, we will be able to also see young people more involved in this disclosure, in fighting these very, these truths that The, let's say the elite wants you to...
To live, to not touch, to, you know, they kind of fight us in every way possible with censorship.
You've been casted out of YouTube.
I know how difficult it is with YouTube.
It's a very hard thing to fight.
But now you have Rambo, at least you have an alternative.
We have some alternatives, at least, that are being built.
But the control over us will increase and, you know, they will know You know, they will say, this guy, this other guy, this other guy, they are on a black list.
So in the end, we will probably end up in some kind of fight with these people from the establishment.
But I hope that by that time, we don't depend from them any longer.
And we can say, OK, you know, you go your own way.
You continue with your smart cities.
Because in the end, I think that they can maintain their own reality only within the realm of their smart cities.
Right.
That's what I say too.
Very good, very good.
I agree.
I don't think they will be capable of maintaining control over large, large, large part of the countries.
And then it's up to us to create an alternative.
And we will do it and we will do it and we will do it for our children and for the people of future generations that will be viewing the struggle that we are fighting these days that precede the advent of cyber Satan and they will say, well, These people were trying to lay the foundation for something different.
And so I'm honored to be in that ground, you know, in that foundation element with people like you and others.
So God bless you all guys.
God bless you.
Thank you.
And thanks for all the information today.
Very nice.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mago, and God bless to all your viewers, and hopefully in the future, I don't know when, with Volume 10.
Who knows?
Always depending on the inspiration that comes from the Almighty.
That's it.
That's it.
Boy, you were on fire last year.
You had two last year, and so now you got this one.
This is, like I said, your masterpiece, so it's very good.
Thank you.
It's going to be a difficult one to beat, so I'm going to have to think about it for the next one.
I might take it easy for a while.
Take care, Michael.
All the best.
You too, Leo.
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