Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 87: HASAN PIKER'S FLYTILLA (MARCH 23RD, 2026) Aired: 2026-05-01 Duration: 01:19:30 === Shedding Light on Spanglish (04:53) === [00:00:02] This is an audio wool original. [00:00:05] Cuba Gooding. [00:00:07] Cuba, all writing. [00:00:11] Stupid. [00:00:12] Stupid. [00:00:22] I don't know what's happening. [00:00:43] Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder with Crowder. [00:00:47] My name's Byron. [00:00:49] You got my back. [00:00:49] I do, I got you. [00:00:50] You're my hype man. [00:00:52] We should do a you say louder, I say with. [00:00:53] Jared says Crowder. [00:00:54] Don't know if I think I listen. [00:00:57] And the same thing with Louder Than Crowder. [00:00:58] No, you're robed. [00:00:59] Okay, yep, yep, yep. [00:01:00] Across from me, you heard of it's Dana's. [00:01:02] I'm here, yeah. [00:01:04] And of course, our lone star brother over in Occupy, Texas, a sunburn from the flotilla, the Theo Von of the left is Jared. [00:01:12] Cowabunga this time. [00:01:14] I'm surfing and I'm doing nice things for my friends and planting a community garden. [00:01:19] Congratulations. [00:01:20] Wow. [00:01:21] Wow, that's really cool, man. [00:01:23] And the pearl of the Antillas. [00:01:25] TT. [00:01:26] Cocodrilo, the sugar bowl of the world. [00:01:29] Also, the clear next target for regime change by our peace president. [00:01:33] We're talking Cuba this week because Stephen is ticked that leftists got to take what he sees as a guided vacation to a place that he has an interesting personal tie to. [00:01:43] Spoiler. [00:01:45] It wasn't delivery. [00:01:46] This is from the March 23rd episode of Ladder with Crowder. [00:01:49] We're going to be covering a segment that he uploaded to the resurrected video sharing platform YouTube. [00:01:55] The video is titled, They Are So Full of Shit. [00:01:59] Oh. [00:02:00] Except he did SH T. Of course, YouTube, these don't get banned. [00:02:04] Yeah. [00:02:04] What? [00:02:05] And we'll be getting into the details of this mission in support of the Cuban people in detail, but here's a quick clip of what you should be expecting today. [00:02:15] With Code Pink, a bunch of angry, shrieking feminists, an Irish rapper, and a Turkish communist in $3,000 glasses. [00:02:22] And they want you to know that, hey, they're doing the right thing by going and helping the Cuban communists. [00:02:31] Sorry, I mean, the Cuban people, they're supporting whatever. [00:02:34] Whatever. [00:02:35] I would expect Stephen to have the most level headed and humanity approach to Cuba. [00:02:40] To a complex situation. [00:02:42] I'd expect him to. [00:02:43] He's a level headed guy who loves Code Pink. [00:02:45] He's empathetic. [00:02:46] In a word, he's empathetic. [00:02:47] Shrieking feminists, folks. [00:02:49] That's what we're going to be looking forward to today. [00:02:51] Code Pink, of course, because that's what women are is pink. [00:02:54] Well, but that is the name of the group. [00:02:56] Oh, is it? [00:02:56] Yeah. [00:02:56] Oh, never mind then. [00:02:58] I'll delete all that. [00:02:59] Okay. [00:03:00] Jared, how much do you know about this little excursion? [00:03:02] I feel like you're Hassan Piker, viewer. [00:03:04] Yeah, I'm a big Hassan head. [00:03:07] Kneecap is three guys. [00:03:09] Listen, we're going to get to that for sure. [00:03:12] Okay. [00:03:13] Steven. [00:03:14] Steven Research Crowder. [00:03:16] Yeah, Code Pink, you know, these people, they're on the front lines. [00:03:19] They're putting themselves out there. [00:03:20] I think it's pretty cool. [00:03:22] Just to shed light on what's going on, people like Stephen are not going to be at all charitable with somebody like Hassan Piker, of course. [00:03:32] A communist who's wearing $3,000 sunglasses. [00:03:36] You know, it's just like more of the socialism was when you don't have money, like you're not allowed to have money type of conversation, you know, that he wants to shed light on here. [00:03:45] But there's some density surrounding that concept, yeah. [00:03:48] Oh, of course. [00:03:48] Yeah. [00:03:48] And I just think overall, like Hassan, who is a journalist, you know, Doing his journalistic duties. [00:03:56] You know, he's got the availability and the ability to put himself over there, shed light on it. [00:04:01] I think that that's cool. [00:04:02] And I think, you know, like, what else do we want to know about it? [00:04:07] What America's doing to Cuba is fucked up. [00:04:09] Like, we're stopping their oil. [00:04:11] There's an embargo going on there. [00:04:13] And no, no, no. [00:04:14] That's their fault, actually. [00:04:15] That's their fault. [00:04:17] I'd love to hear more about that then, because maybe I've got it wrong. [00:04:21] Maybe. [00:04:21] We'll explore that. [00:04:23] Cuba. [00:04:24] I talked about that last week. [00:04:26] We had Spanglish Generation on. [00:04:29] I have quite a bit of experience with Cuban Americans personally, and I've spent some time in Cuba. [00:04:35] So I don't know who Spanglish Generation is. [00:04:38] I didn't listen to that episode, but it appears to be Miss Spanglish, who is a storyteller and opinion giver. [00:04:44] Cool. [00:04:45] It seems kind of interesting. [00:04:45] I thought it was Adam Sandler and Richard Barry and Marisol. [00:04:52] No, that's not it. [00:04:53] But this is interesting. === Woke vs Winged Dr Pepper (06:10) === [00:04:55] This is actually why I chose to cover this segment specifically we get a little bit of a look into Stephen's conservative timeline, his coming to being on the right. [00:05:07] So, like, when he stopped. [00:05:09] Being woke. [00:05:09] I don't think he was ever woke. [00:05:10] This is just when he discovered that there's a word for the kind of asshole that he is. [00:05:15] Okay, cool, It was, I would say this, it was one of my formative experiences. [00:05:21] I found out I was right wing in seventh grade drama class when my drama teacher said we need to give back all the land to Native Americans. [00:05:29] And I had just come from history class. [00:05:31] And in Quebec, we had the Algonquins and the Iroquois, and they were at horrible war. [00:05:34] And I said, well, which one should we, which tribe should we give it back to? [00:05:37] She said, that's so right wing. [00:05:39] I went home, asked my dad, what does that mean, right wing? [00:05:40] He said, Explained it to me and went back the next day and I said, Hey, I am right wing, and she failed me. [00:05:45] Oh, yeah. [00:05:47] That didn't happen. [00:05:48] No, no, no, it didn't happen. [00:05:50] Hey, come on. [00:05:50] Benefit of the doubt here. [00:05:51] We're on a new leaf today. [00:05:53] Post your report cards. [00:05:54] He definitely failed. [00:05:56] I want to see the proof. [00:05:57] Well, he does a couple act outs later in the show that might explain why he got a poor grade in his drama class. [00:06:05] Sure. [00:06:06] Yeah, I also don't think that this is truly the first time that he learned of the concept of being at the right, though. [00:06:12] Seven Grade seventh grade. [00:06:14] I don't think so. [00:06:15] I'm sorry, but he's got some more personal experience. [00:06:18] I went to Cuba. [00:06:19] This was my first real, like, personal experience where it deeply affected me. [00:06:25] First time I was in Cuba, it was for a stupid rising crust pizza commercial because it was baseline budgeting. [00:06:30] Spent time in Havana. [00:06:32] There were blackouts then, just so you know. [00:06:34] The entire hotel, we had to go to a restaurant that was in somebody's house, everything was candlelight. [00:06:38] This is nothing new. [00:06:39] That sounds romantic, it is, except for the abject poverty. [00:06:43] Oh. [00:06:44] And I got very smell from the not working toilet. [00:06:47] And I got very sick. [00:06:49] Of course, he got sick, though. [00:06:50] He's always sick. [00:06:51] He has nothing to do with that. [00:06:54] He's a very fragile boy. [00:06:56] He was born with stomach problems. [00:06:58] He's a hot girl with stomach issues. [00:07:01] Honestly, he's a baddie with stomach issues. [00:07:04] Baddie with a bad gut biome. [00:07:05] Baddie with a bad belly. [00:07:07] I could not find the clearly DiGiorno pizza commercial. [00:07:11] Yeah, he was a child actor in the commercial. [00:07:14] Is that what he's saying? [00:07:14] That's kind of what he's implying here. [00:07:16] In Cuba? [00:07:16] Is that what they usually do? [00:07:17] They film pizza crust commercials in Cuba? [00:07:19] You would think that it would be cheaper to shoot a pizza commercial in that vibe in Florida or something. [00:07:25] But I don't know. [00:07:26] I have no idea. [00:07:27] Back when they had that DiGiorno money, they had like, whoa. [00:07:31] Like, whoa. [00:07:32] They dropped the shark with the croissant crust, of course. [00:07:35] Yeah, yeah. [00:07:36] They lost it all. [00:07:37] Oh, gosh. [00:07:37] Pocket pizzas and now, what? [00:07:40] Microwave singles? [00:07:41] They've fallen off, dude. [00:07:42] They have fallen far, dude. [00:07:43] What are we doing? [00:07:44] That's the Walgreens at 8 30 a night kind of customer base. [00:07:48] There, right? [00:07:49] Yeah, the meals for one section. [00:07:51] Yeah, no. [00:07:52] I couldn't find the commercial that Stephen was supposedly in. [00:07:54] I imagine it never went to air. [00:07:56] But I also think they weren't forced to eat a meal at a person's house. [00:08:01] I imagine that that was an opportunity. [00:08:03] But here's the thing restaurants in people's houses is a thing in some places. [00:08:06] Exactly. [00:08:07] It's not necessarily inherently bad. [00:08:08] It doesn't mean that they're impoverished necessarily. [00:08:11] And there's obviously poverty in Cuba. [00:08:13] There's plenty. [00:08:14] Yeah, yeah. [00:08:14] Maybe he was trying to offer to cook for them. [00:08:18] Maybe he went into a stranger's home. [00:08:19] Yeah, maybe that's it. [00:08:20] He woke up. [00:08:21] I have this recipe for Dr. Pepper glazed barbecue ribs. [00:08:29] Comes in with the Dr. Pepper. [00:08:30] I got to get you a hot Dr. Pepper. [00:08:31] He's got 10 in a cold case of Dr. Pepper. [00:08:34] Hey, where's your grill? [00:08:36] I don't understand how this works. [00:08:37] You don't got a trigger? [00:08:38] Charcoal? [00:08:39] Where do I put the pellets into this thing? [00:08:40] Yeah, you just got to start burning styrofoam. [00:08:43] Darn, that doesn't work either. [00:08:44] Did you know that during the war, that's obviously still ongoing over there, but in Gaza, that people were burning garbage to cook food? [00:08:51] That's so sad. [00:08:52] Isn't that crazy? [00:08:53] It's fucking gross. [00:08:53] Anyways, go ahead. [00:08:54] And then I, I believe I was 16, saw Canadians going on vacation to the beaches, coming home, and back then showing everyone their Polaroids, going, no, no, no, it's great. [00:09:03] And I remember being so mad. [00:09:06] This was before the term privilege. [00:09:08] White privilege was really a thing. [00:09:11] But that really stuck with me. [00:09:13] More anti classmate lore. [00:09:15] Stephen. [00:09:15] He was mad about Polaroids at the beach? [00:09:17] He's mad that not friends. [00:09:18] I imagine these are just acquaintances. [00:09:20] We're having a good time on vacation. [00:09:23] The populace went on holiday. [00:09:24] I was there too, and it was bad, actually. [00:09:26] Yeah, they had fun without me. [00:09:29] What a fucking shame. [00:09:30] And then you made them uncomfortable because you kept shouting at them from across the beach. [00:09:34] The thing you like is actually bad. [00:09:36] Yeah, I used to have fun on the beach too before I was right wing. [00:09:42] Think about that. [00:09:43] About it. [00:09:44] Do you think that Steven would be a good character for MTV's real world? [00:09:47] He actually might have been. [00:09:48] I don't know. [00:09:50] Alex Stein released his reel again of all the reality shows that he's been on. [00:09:55] Clear villain, of course. [00:09:56] Of course, yeah. [00:09:56] I think it's Steven would be the worst. [00:09:58] He'd be so bad. [00:09:59] The hardest thing is he would have like the red, I just was crying eyes, like most of the time. [00:10:05] Yeah, he would be the Rachel Duffy of the real world. [00:10:09] Yeah. [00:10:09] Learning hard lessons in public. [00:10:11] Yeah, yeah. [00:10:12] And then, yeah, rejecting all of them. [00:10:15] Close haste. [00:10:16] Stephen's now going to present us with a thesis surrounding this whole issue of the flotilla. [00:10:21] And I guess I should explain a little bit. [00:10:23] Yeah, so it sounds like Hassan was in Cuba. [00:10:26] I don't know what he's talking about. [00:10:27] Yeah, yeah, I can explain that really quick. [00:10:29] The globe. [00:10:33] Oh, no, I'm going to hang myself in my closet. [00:10:50] Who's going to do that? [00:10:51] That's insane. [00:10:51] I heard about it on AM radio, 9 30 The Patriot. [00:10:54] Hell yeah. [00:10:55] Those guys are stoked about it, though. [00:10:57] I can finally buy a house with fake money with my MFT. [00:11:03] So, this is the Nuestra, is that right? === The Flotilla Support Concept (02:34) === [00:11:06] Flotilla? [00:11:07] Nuestra. [00:11:08] Yeah, that's right. [00:11:08] So, it started out as a concept of a flotilla following the one that Greta Thunberg made famous, of course. [00:11:13] Oh, sure, sure. [00:11:14] A handful of other folks over in Gaza that I believe they never made it, right? [00:11:19] There's a dramatic seizing of the ships and imprisoning of a lot of people. [00:11:23] Some people got arrested, yeah. [00:11:24] And a lot of mistreatment of the people who were taken in. [00:11:28] I think one person was sexually assaulted, even, too. [00:11:32] Disgusting. [00:11:32] It started as a concept that was going to leave from Mexico and go to Cuba with supplies for the Cuban people. [00:11:37] Sure. [00:11:38] And then it expanded into more beyond the borders of being a flotilla. [00:11:44] The wording, it was still called a flotilla, but this was also people traveling by air and other ways to join in this. [00:11:51] So, like the flotilla is a bit of a kickoff to the. [00:11:54] The protest ish kind of thing? [00:11:55] Yeah, it's not even necessarily a protest as much as it is like a support of the people. [00:11:59] Sure, sure, sure. [00:11:59] So Stephen's going to say that Hassan and a handful of other influencers flying over there is against like the spirit of the flotilla. [00:12:09] Totally. [00:12:09] But that's not exactly what's going on. [00:12:12] Well, yeah, I mean, it's the same thing like posting a picture of AOC sitting in first class and being like, look at this bitch. [00:12:17] I mean, yeah, people don't understand there's necessary precautions that people need to take when they're in positions that those folks are, right? [00:12:23] Sure, yeah. [00:12:23] And of course, from a place of power is also a place where you can make change for people. [00:12:27] Exactly. [00:12:27] Yeah, you have to think about. [00:12:28] Not below you, but people who are like needing a hand. [00:12:30] This is like my shit take about. [00:12:33] You remember when everyone was saying Taylor Swift used airplanes more than anyone else, and there was like a global. [00:12:38] I was like, well, she's bringing so much joy to hundreds of thousands of people. [00:12:42] Like, and listen, I know that everyone's mad at me, but like, if you think about the wider concept of people do enjoy Taylor Swift and they do get a lot of value from that. [00:12:50] So I think that they get a good value from experiencing art. [00:12:52] Yeah. [00:12:53] Even if you don't like her art. [00:12:54] Yeah, exactly. [00:12:54] But everyone wants to make fun of her. [00:12:56] But also, like, she also donated a fuck ton of money to all of her employees at the end of the day. [00:13:00] Sure. [00:13:00] No, she don't donate. [00:13:01] She paid a bunch of her employees a fuck ton of money when her. [00:13:03] Tour was over. [00:13:04] So, I mean, yeah, there's pros and cons of Taylor Swift. [00:13:07] I was just thinking that was like a bad take that people like talk about carbon emissions when it's something that is so widely enjoyed and as a group consumed. [00:13:16] Yeah, you can shit on bad people. [00:13:17] You're allowed to shit. [00:13:18] Like, there's enough shit for bad people to give. [00:13:21] You don't need to give shit to good people or medium people. [00:13:23] Yeah, or medium people. [00:13:24] Yeah. [00:13:25] Not even that she's like an activist or anything. [00:13:27] I mean, she kind of is sometimes. [00:13:28] So, this was co organized by the People's Forum, Code Pink, co organized. [00:13:33] Pardon me. [00:13:34] And also Progressive International's Advisory Council. [00:13:37] A handful of people pulling together to make this work. === Solving Sanctioned Problems (12:52) === [00:13:40] Did Hassan fly in? [00:13:42] He did. [00:13:42] Okay. [00:13:42] Yeah. [00:13:42] And that's, I mean, a big part of what we're going to be breaking down here. [00:13:46] The goal is to deliver humanitarian aid to Cuba, raise international awareness of the blockade, and to build political pressure to end sanctions, of course. [00:13:54] Sure. [00:13:54] Yeah. [00:13:55] Just solidarity stuff. [00:13:56] If you don't quit your job, then you don't mean shit. [00:13:58] Well, you have to sacrifice everything if you want to send a message. [00:14:00] Sorry. [00:14:01] Yeah. [00:14:01] And you can't work also. [00:14:04] If you do money. [00:14:06] If you do money that goes in your hand, let me tell you about your opinion. [00:14:11] It doesn't count, okay? [00:14:13] Let me tell you about it. [00:14:14] So think about that for 10 seconds here, Asan, because your Versace shirt and your Gucci sunglasses aren't going to save you in Cuba. [00:14:25] And, you know, I haven't heard Steven Steak, though. [00:14:27] So I'm assuming what it'll be, but let's. [00:14:30] Can we see? [00:14:30] Of course. [00:14:31] The Nuestra America Convoy, organized by Code Pink, those lovely ladies. [00:14:37] Arrived in Cuba with 400 something thousand dollars worth of supplies, enough food for not even themselves on their own trip. [00:14:50] Really? [00:14:51] They all died. [00:14:53] I can't believe they all starved. [00:14:55] That frail old woman coming off of the Cuban, oh, I shouldn't have gone. [00:15:01] I was like, what's that scene in Interstellar when he's coming back up on the ship? [00:15:08] He's like, I've been down there for 30 years. [00:15:12] I thought you were going to show Matthew McConaughey slamming on the bookshelf, hoping for change. [00:15:17] No, you have to go back. [00:15:19] Oh, yeah. [00:15:19] The book opens up to what? [00:15:22] I don't even know. [00:15:23] The Marxist Revolution, Volume 1. [00:15:25] That's the one. [00:15:26] I think it's silly for Stephen to imply that everyone thought that this amount of supplies would be a solution for the shortage, right? [00:15:38] This is solving the problems for a country that has millions of people. [00:15:42] This isn't set to solve. [00:15:43] Cuba's supply chain problem. [00:15:45] You know, 35 tons of aid isn't going to do that, but that doesn't mean you don't do anything, right? [00:15:51] Yeah, of course. [00:15:52] I mean, that's how you solve problems. [00:15:54] The pressure and the attention that it'll bring to the issue is the important stuff. [00:15:57] Yeah, exactly. [00:15:57] Yeah. [00:15:57] And obviously, like, yeah, do what you can, but, you know, like, no one. [00:16:00] If you're not going to solve it all at once, don't even try. [00:16:03] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:16:05] Well, I think about like Code Pink, pretty substantial audience. [00:16:09] Hassan Piker, pretty substantial audience. [00:16:11] Kneecap, pretty substantial audience. [00:16:13] Uh huh. [00:16:14] Global audience, global recognition. [00:16:17] For the issue that's happening in Cuba, the embargo in Cuba. [00:16:21] I didn't know Cuba was a country until now. [00:16:23] Oh my God. [00:16:24] I can't believe you did that. [00:16:25] Yes, I'm thankful. [00:16:26] I kept saying Cuba. [00:16:28] I thought it was a guy. [00:16:30] I thought it was just a man's name. [00:16:32] Yeah, I thought they were arresting another leader. [00:16:36] Stephen decides to play a montage of clips from a handful of folks Code Pink, Jeremy Corbyn, was he the former UK Labour leader? [00:16:46] Oh, that Corbyn. [00:16:47] Who's the UFO Corbyn? [00:16:49] It's Corbell. [00:16:50] Corbell. [00:16:51] It's Jeremy Corbell. [00:16:53] A handful of folks working with Stu Smith. [00:16:55] Just a big bunch of moments from this trip to Cuba. [00:17:00] But this time it's kind of worse. [00:17:02] And it's worse because. [00:17:05] President Trump has said he wants to destroy Cuba. [00:17:09] Most other presidents have used the regime. [00:17:12] When did he say that? [00:17:13] No Cubans, by the way. [00:17:15] No Cubans, by the way. [00:17:16] They don't have electricity. [00:17:19] They are so rich. [00:17:21] They're so rich in love, and they keep spreading that love to all of us. [00:17:26] This system, this rigorous sanctioned system, actually dominates their lives in very meaningful ways. [00:17:36] The communist? [00:17:37] We don't even know about it. [00:17:38] Most Americans don't even know about it. [00:17:40] And I would go so far as to say, even a lot of Cubans don't know about it either. [00:17:44] Well, you should tell them. [00:17:46] You're there. [00:17:47] This is the mural for humanity. [00:17:52] And it's going to have little boats with. [00:17:55] What are you doing to my boat? [00:17:57] I don't see a technical. [00:18:00] They're the supplies that will be going directly to the government. [00:18:05] We are going to understand it. [00:18:08] I really hated Josh's little. [00:18:09] I know, obviously, it's like. [00:18:11] Hey, for each person, one of you guys gets to say something stupid at the end of the fucking clip. [00:18:15] They plan that for sure. [00:18:16] Yeah, yeah. [00:18:16] But when Josh goes, aww, like when the person's like saying, like, these people have rich community and love and they care about the world and they care about each other and they have culture here. [00:18:27] And he's like, oh, isn't that sweet? [00:18:28] They got the little culture. [00:18:30] That's such a piece of shit thing to say. [00:18:32] They got the Americas got funny videos. [00:18:36] Yeah, right, exactly. [00:18:37] I'm Bob Sanders. [00:18:40] Oh, look at me. [00:18:41] I've got problems in my home country. [00:18:44] Isn't that funny? [00:18:44] Oh, got bogged in the nuts. [00:18:45] I'm surprised that they didn't post a video of problems with Cuba with like the America, America, like you know, like the theme song. [00:18:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:18:54] America, wish I was you. [00:18:55] Wish I was you. [00:18:57] There we go. [00:18:57] Yeah. [00:18:58] That's fun. [00:18:59] Really, I didn't see much bad in the clips that they even chose to share. [00:19:04] Sure. [00:19:04] People painting a mural for humanity. [00:19:06] Murals ain't going to change anything. [00:19:08] Art's dumb. [00:19:08] That's my what are you doing? [00:19:09] Listen to my punk rock cover. [00:19:11] What are you doing to my wall? [00:19:12] Says one of them. [00:19:13] Cool accent. [00:19:14] I thought that this was silly, but also, this leads us to one of our favorite. [00:19:18] Segments and really the dumbest, most incoherent usage of it. [00:19:23] Oh no. [00:19:24] Those crates, those boxes, that's then being intercepted by the guy. [00:19:30] How much you want to bet that'll be in the black market or powering their individual suites and mansions while the people starve? [00:19:37] This is not the first time you've made this point. [00:19:39] You actually called it prior. [00:19:40] I don't know. [00:19:42] Come let Zoltar tell you more. [00:19:45] Uh oh. [00:19:45] It's the next pitch ball right past the price. [00:19:48] We're going to win the game. [00:19:50] I'm Guarantee. [00:19:54] What do you think the chances are that Hassan Piker will be delivering supplies straight to the Cuban people, bypassing the government? [00:20:01] Or do you think it'll be going to the government for them to distribute? [00:20:05] Every single thing that arrives in Cuba goes through the government. [00:20:10] The only reason they're going to Cuba and being allowed to do this whole charade is because it's already been filtered. [00:20:18] Come, let Zoltar tell you more. [00:20:20] I'm going to have the next pitchfork right past the flight. [00:20:23] We're going to win the game. [00:20:25] I guarantee. [00:20:29] How did I know? [00:20:32] Was this the day before? [00:20:35] Basically, I think that was Miss Spanglish or whatever. [00:20:38] Okay. [00:20:38] And he also didn't, he just repeated his prediction. [00:20:41] Yeah. [00:20:42] He didn't see like proof it happened. [00:20:44] He just repeated the same prediction. [00:20:45] Yeah. [00:20:46] This is not the first time that you made that prediction. [00:20:49] You made that prediction. [00:20:50] You didn't call it. [00:20:50] This is not a Crowder called it. [00:20:52] No. [00:20:52] This is Crowder said it twice. [00:20:54] Crowder said it again. [00:20:56] What are sanctions? [00:20:58] How do people go to Cuba right now? [00:20:59] How did I have to go to Cuba? [00:21:01] How is it different? [00:21:05] That rocks, man. [00:21:06] Yeah, I called it. [00:21:09] And then if you look at anything that Code Pink or Hassan or Nikap or any of these guys have been posting, all this is sanctioned by America. [00:21:18] We'll just get arrested if we don't do it this way. [00:21:20] Yeah. [00:21:20] No, a handful of the things are. [00:21:23] How come you stayed at a resort? [00:21:25] It sounds like you guys stayed in a luxury resort. [00:21:28] Yeah, because America was sanctioned. [00:21:30] We'll get into that. [00:21:33] That's a big part of this. [00:21:34] But that's the least coherent version of Crowder Rush. [00:21:37] We should do like a Byron called it where we just repeat something from earlier in the same episode. [00:21:43] Dude, you just called it. [00:21:44] Let me say it again. [00:21:46] Ridiculous. [00:21:47] So dumb. [00:21:50] I also hate how long that sting is. [00:21:52] It's so long. [00:21:54] Josh, again, pointing out the obvious, he does want to say that it's good that they brought the supplies to help. [00:22:01] But first of all, I want to say whoever donated $455,000 worth of stuff, that's very nice. [00:22:07] But how do they think that's going to get to 11 million people? [00:22:11] How does that distribute to 11 million? [00:22:12] And the spirit of it, nice. [00:22:15] They're actually, it'd be like if you see, let's say, there's a tyrant on a block, right, who is ruling with an iron fist, raping, starving, killing everybody. [00:22:25] And they say, hey, we need help. [00:22:26] And you go, oh, great. [00:22:27] And give that bully $430,000. [00:22:31] They are enabling the bully and empowering the government. [00:22:35] Which will ensure the people remain oppressed for as long as the government can get away with it. [00:22:41] The government will ensure that people live in poverty while they live high in the hog. [00:22:46] It's never happened any other way. [00:22:48] It's never taken place any other way. [00:22:50] There is no example of communism where that has not been the case. [00:22:55] Maoist China, you look at Pol Pot, you look at Stalin, of course, you can look at the Castros, Guevara, all of them individually lived the decadent lifestyle that they champion against while the people live in poverty. [00:23:09] Not one example. [00:23:11] Let's start with the block tyrant. [00:23:13] Again, he's just in Chuck Norris mode where he likes to think that everything is an 80s to early 90s action movie. [00:23:21] So imagine that you're at Nakatomi Plaza. [00:23:24] Okay. [00:23:24] Listen, Hans Gruber's there. [00:23:27] And he's going to take all your supplies. [00:23:28] Okay. [00:23:30] Gerald under his breath saying, No, it's not nice that Cuba got supplies. [00:23:34] That was pretty cool. [00:23:35] Yeah. [00:23:35] He was really under the. [00:23:37] No, fuck those guys. [00:23:38] I also like that Josh was kind of like, I don't want to be a total piece of shit. [00:23:42] So it's nice that poor people can eat food. [00:23:44] He did say that. [00:23:45] Yeah. [00:23:45] He does want to lead with that. [00:23:47] Yeah. [00:23:47] Let me lead with the fact that I think that poor people should still have food sometimes, maybe. [00:23:52] No, they fucking shouldn't. [00:23:53] No. [00:23:53] Did they tithe? [00:23:55] You did. [00:23:56] And are they gay? [00:23:57] Yeah. [00:23:58] It's his big thing. [00:23:59] Listen, I don't have a rich history of communism. [00:24:02] I do know that sometimes it goes wrong, but there have been some examples of. [00:24:06] So does everything else. [00:24:07] That's a great point. [00:24:09] Well, the example of like the people at the top live rich, lavish lifestyles. [00:24:13] Our president literally has a gold toilet. [00:24:14] Like, He was just bragging about giving out $1,000 pens. [00:24:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:24:18] Which didn't happen. [00:24:19] He was like, I don't. [00:24:20] It's not a real thing. [00:24:21] This conversation didn't actually happen. [00:24:23] He just like made that up like while he was just talking about it, apparently. [00:24:27] Wait, what? [00:24:27] The pens? [00:24:27] Yeah, the pens thing. [00:24:28] That's just like not something that happened. [00:24:31] You said he was giving out thousand dollar pens. [00:24:32] Yeah, he said he was giving them to children. [00:24:35] Why would you give a thousand dollar pen to a kid? [00:24:37] Well, it's stupid because it's our money. [00:24:38] You give a kid a thousand bucks. [00:24:39] Yeah, I don't know. [00:24:41] You want my Pokemon card? [00:24:42] Don't break it. [00:24:43] Jared, there have been a couple examples of communism working, and I think that that could be cool if more of that happened. [00:24:49] Thomas Sankara, have you heard of that name? [00:24:51] Yeah. [00:24:52] Burkina Faso? [00:24:53] Just vaguely. [00:24:54] I know the name. [00:24:55] Do I know what it is attached to? [00:24:57] Not really. [00:24:58] It's a landlocked country in West Africa, not attached to anything other than countries. [00:25:02] He sold the government's Mercedes fleet, flew economy, took a $250 a month salary, owned almost nothing at his death. [00:25:11] But yeah, he was assassinated after four years. [00:25:13] So, sure. [00:25:14] Well, I think like when he's talking about like pointing a finger at like Che Guevara, like that's the easy one. [00:25:23] He lived lavishly and it's like, no, well, he really didn't. [00:25:26] You know what I mean? [00:25:26] Like he grew up with. [00:25:29] More than some, right? [00:25:31] But like his call to action was like, well, what about my community? [00:25:36] You know what I mean? [00:25:37] Like, what about Cuba? [00:25:38] You know, the way that he actually lived, like in his adult years, like where he is known for, right? [00:25:43] He like didn't live in fucking. [00:25:47] He wasn't living in like a mansion. [00:25:49] You know what I mean? [00:25:49] Like, he wasn't living like above the line. [00:25:51] He was like traveling a lot and like shaking hands and like leading a movement. [00:25:56] It's like a very. [00:25:57] What are you talking about? [00:25:59] It's like maybe he had the money to like be able to like do that, you know what I mean? [00:26:04] To like put himself in a position where he could do that, but eventually that has to sustain itself, and that's what he did. [00:26:09] Well, my issue with a lot of these conversations around things like communism is that people act like the biggest, baddest part of it is like the only thing worth considering, and not considering the fact that they're it's not perfect, obviously, there's flaws with it. [00:26:20] Well, there's an evolution to it, exactly, yeah. [00:26:22] And like if you say that that's just how it always is, then it's like, oh, we tried that, it didn't work. [00:26:25] Well, we could look back a hundred years and say something that wasn't working about any other system. [00:26:31] Is the reason for it not to exist now. === Music Evolution in Ireland (15:13) === [00:26:33] Yeah. [00:26:33] And you can look at those systems, specifically the failed ones, and say, cool, why did that fail? [00:26:37] What can we do differently to kind of like take the good parts of that and come up with some new methodology of living, creating a society, right? [00:26:43] It's so like surface level. [00:26:45] That's all that it is. [00:26:46] And it's like communist, cool, bad. [00:26:48] Communist is bad, great, cool. [00:26:49] Well, that's this season's boogeyman. [00:26:52] It is. [00:26:52] It was socialism to like five years ago, and now it's communist, everybody. [00:26:56] Yeah. [00:26:56] Again, like I'm beside myself this weekend. [00:26:58] Think of this level of evil. [00:27:00] People going, hey, We're starving. [00:27:04] Please just make. [00:27:05] Can you guys get the government up? [00:27:06] Don't give them anything. [00:27:08] They're just going to use it to oppress us more. [00:27:10] And then white liberals going, shut up. [00:27:13] No, no, no. [00:27:14] The government is good. [00:27:15] And just to be clear, I have said their allegiance is to communism. [00:27:18] I mean it. [00:27:19] That's not hyperbole. [00:27:21] They can't even make the argument that actually, well, hold on a second. [00:27:25] You know, we do want to work with the government to help the people, but maybe there can be some reform. [00:27:29] No. [00:27:30] All the people are just sitting there waving their hands. [00:27:32] Don't help us. [00:27:33] No! [00:27:34] Please don't! [00:27:35] I hate that. [00:27:36] I don't know. [00:27:36] That's just more of a period on that sentence of the boogeyman of communism, right? [00:27:41] Yeah. [00:27:43] I think what I hate most about this clip is Steven has this tone of voice that he uses when he thinks he really landed the point. [00:27:49] And it makes me so fucking mad. [00:27:51] Because he's so dumb. [00:27:52] Well, there's a confidence in what he says, and that's what actually sells it to his audience, right? [00:27:58] They can't see through it? [00:28:00] I wish they could. [00:28:00] I'm not going to talk poorly about his audience because then I'll get caught up in a. [00:28:04] Red lit American flag Joe Biden MAGA moment. [00:28:09] You know? [00:28:09] Like, I don't want to get busted by that. [00:28:12] Yeah. [00:28:12] And I'm not judging his audience. [00:28:13] I'm just saying, like, he just makes these, he tries to land these points so hard and they just, they sound so juvenile and simple, you know? [00:28:21] Fuck you. [00:28:22] You. [00:28:24] They've got this new thing since they've returned to YouTube. [00:28:27] He has a button that mutes his mic when he cusses, that he does himself. [00:28:33] And the amount of forethought to cursing that you would have to self censor, which is something he's repeatedly said he will not do. [00:28:40] And he literally is. [00:28:41] And he's literally self censoring with a button. [00:28:44] He's not even going back and censoring, he's censoring in real time. [00:28:47] He got himself an Ethan Klein button. [00:28:49] Well, no, but Ethan Klein button, what that does has a video delay. [00:28:53] This is way different than that. [00:28:55] So. [00:28:56] When Ethan Klein hits, it's like a normal broadcast delay button, you know, like if someone blows their head off on a news broadcast. [00:29:02] You know, they hit that. [00:29:03] Steven's in real time censoring curse words. [00:29:06] We should send him a foot switch to do it with his foot so we don't have to see it. [00:29:09] Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I, yeah, it's pretty impressive. [00:29:12] Yeah, it's funny to think about the fact that he's scripting out in his mind the profanity. [00:29:17] Yeah, I'm about to say cunt. [00:29:19] I'm going to swear. [00:29:20] I'm feeling it. [00:29:21] Yeah, it's pretty wild stuff. [00:29:24] It's fucking dumb, Steven. [00:29:26] I think we're getting into the details of this episode. [00:29:29] So let's go through the key players. [00:29:31] Pushing this evil. [00:29:32] And I mean evil. [00:29:34] People are dying because of communism in Cuba. [00:29:38] And these people want that government. [00:29:41] Make no mistake. [00:29:41] That's why they saluted them. [00:29:42] That's why they gave them a standing oath. [00:29:43] They want that government to remain in power because America bad. [00:29:47] Kneecap, an Irish rapper, I guess. [00:29:51] What? [00:29:52] They got the best kind of rap. [00:29:53] Yeah. [00:29:54] Tibia was taken. [00:29:56] But Tube Chains wasn't available? [00:29:58] Jared, yeah, I'll let you take this. [00:29:59] Kneecap is not just an Irish rapper, it's a rap group. [00:30:03] Yeah, three piece rap group from. [00:30:05] Ireland. [00:30:06] Tibia was taken, was their joke? [00:30:07] Yeah. [00:30:08] But also, was two chains taken? [00:30:11] Yeah. [00:30:12] What does that have to do with kneecap? [00:30:13] He was. [00:30:13] Well, they both do wrapping. [00:30:15] Okay. [00:30:15] That's kind of the. [00:30:17] Yeah, how do you go from kneecap to tibia to two chains? [00:30:22] Hmm. [00:30:22] Nelly wasn't available? [00:30:24] Are you trying to tell me that he can't be the three Dr. Dre's? [00:30:29] That's a whole team. [00:30:30] Yeah. [00:30:31] It's not even a wrapping. [00:30:32] Surgical team. [00:30:33] M and M. Three of them. [00:30:37] Yeah. [00:30:37] So they're an Irish rap group. [00:30:39] They do some native. [00:30:42] Is it Gaelic? [00:30:43] I don't know if that's. [00:30:43] I think so. [00:30:44] Yeah. [00:30:45] So they rap in like the sort of the dead language of Ireland, which has like a bit of a. [00:30:52] It's coming back. [00:30:53] Like it's like more in vogue. [00:30:54] Like people are like interested in like keeping the old forgotten languages alive. [00:30:58] And so they're kind of like. [00:30:59] Channel 5 did a piece on that. [00:31:00] Yeah. [00:31:01] Yeah. [00:31:01] Andrew went to Ireland and he spoke with them. [00:31:04] I guess they're sort of at the front of that as far as like. [00:31:07] Being able to connect the language to the heritage and have it also be sort of like a pro revolutionary message at the same time. [00:31:16] Irish Republican, pro Palestinian is the thing that got him in the most hot water recently, right? [00:31:21] Yeah. [00:31:21] They played at, I think, Coachella, right? [00:31:23] And they did a free Palestine thing and it got them a ton of flack from what their management, a bunch of places dropped them. [00:31:31] It was like around the same time that the Bob Villain thing happened, which we spoke about Bob Villain on the show, I believe. [00:31:37] I don't know if we did. [00:31:38] When he was doing the death to the IDF. [00:31:40] Yeah, I don't think we did, but. [00:31:42] I do know. [00:31:43] I recall that. [00:31:43] Yeah. [00:31:44] Yeah. [00:31:44] It was like right around the same time that those things were happening. [00:31:48] Both of them had like a pretty dramatic recourse as far as like, you know, the reaction to them speaking out and being, you know, doing what artists are supposed to do make music that is about the time that they live in. [00:32:01] Right. [00:32:02] Yeah. [00:32:02] So they were both, you know, collectively punished and it kind of like sent a message through the music industry, but that also gave sort of the attention back to them. [00:32:11] So it really pushed their. [00:32:13] Social cachet even harder, you know, and further than it probably would have otherwise. [00:32:18] Well, and their prominence had been ramping up for a while now. [00:32:21] I remember hearing of their, they had a partially documentary, was it a biopic called Kneecap from 2024? [00:32:28] I remember it premiered at Sundance. [00:32:30] Yeah. [00:32:31] I didn't see it. [00:32:32] Semi autobiographical account of their origin. [00:32:35] Yeah. [00:32:36] They also look really cool. [00:32:37] They wear ski masks and stuff like that. [00:32:39] Yeah, with the Irish flag on it. [00:32:41] It's funny to me that they have this like gatekeeping thing about how rappers can't be Irish. [00:32:45] Oh, they're not done. [00:32:46] Oh, I'm sure they aren't because they're just being racist. [00:32:48] Their favorite rapper is Irish. [00:32:50] Whitey Ford or whatever, right? [00:32:52] Jump around. [00:32:53] Jump around, jump up to get down. [00:32:56] That's Gerald's favorite for sure. [00:32:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:32:59] We listened to this at church camp. [00:33:00] He brought that to football practice to show his friends. [00:33:03] That's when he remembered when he discovered rap music. [00:33:06] I have black friends on the football team. [00:33:08] It's just a bunch of white guys rapping, though. [00:33:10] That's my black friends. [00:33:11] Yeah. [00:33:13] Yeah, they say the N word, and that's close enough for me. [00:33:15] That was Gerald's rap or Gerald's black friend. [00:33:18] Oh, God. [00:33:19] So he decided to show up and support Cuba's. [00:33:24] Tyrannical regime. [00:33:25] Sorry, I should say he is kneecapped right now. [00:33:29] Because Stephen is still not. [00:33:30] He doesn't understand it's a group. [00:33:31] Yeah, not quite yet. [00:33:32] Oh, it's awful. [00:33:38] Oh, a bouncy house. [00:33:47] Yeah. [00:33:48] Yeah. [00:33:50] Also, the remaining places that had power outside that hotel went out right after their concert. [00:33:59] Whoops. [00:34:00] Including five hospitals, by the way. [00:34:03] While he's up there in Cuba saying, free, free Palestine. [00:34:06] Yeah, that's what the Cuban people need. [00:34:09] They need you to sermonize on Palestine. [00:34:10] He even confirmed this, by the way. [00:34:12] This is not hearsay. [00:34:13] You can check out the references, we make them available every show. [00:34:15] He wrote. [00:34:17] Aben and Havana with the power cutting out shorty after our gig. [00:34:21] The message of solidarity to Palestine remains the same. [00:34:25] F off. [00:34:28] They were directly responsible for this happening and not doing a video on their country. [00:34:33] Yeah. [00:34:34] Oh, unrelated, actually. [00:34:36] And one, the music slaps. [00:34:39] It was so fucking good. [00:34:41] Angry drum and bass. [00:34:42] Nice breakbeats going on. [00:34:43] Yeah, that was great. [00:34:45] It's kind of cool. [00:34:45] It's like, you know, that's what I was going to say. [00:34:48] It's like a little bit like a house forward. [00:34:51] But then it's like vocal, you know what I mean? [00:34:53] Like they do like a chanty sort of thing on top of it. [00:34:56] Rap. [00:34:57] Yeah. [00:34:57] Doing the rap thing, but it's a little non traditional. [00:35:00] I would expect Gerald to be very anti kicks on the and. [00:35:06] Great point. [00:35:06] Yeah. [00:35:07] It took me a second. [00:35:07] But yeah, absolutely. [00:35:09] He wants a one and three kick only or a four on the floor. [00:35:12] That's the only music he likes. [00:35:13] I mean, he's very much Irish too. [00:35:15] I don't understand. [00:35:16] Well, I do actually understand. [00:35:17] I don't know why I went with that. [00:35:19] Of course he doesn't like this. [00:35:20] It totally makes sense that people would want to hear. [00:35:22] You know, pro Palestine music for people who are showing up to watch a kneecap concert in Cuba. [00:35:28] Yeah, yeah. [00:35:28] Like a free concert for them to show up to. [00:35:31] Yeah, people who disagree don't usually show up at concerts, right? [00:35:35] Right. [00:35:35] Also, you know, I mean, the story of Palestine, it's a story of oppression. [00:35:40] And similar to Ireland. [00:35:42] Very true. [00:35:43] And it might be a thread that people at this concert would enjoy. [00:35:47] No, I don't think you guys understand it. [00:35:48] See, listen, the poorer you are, the you can't care about anybody outside of your circle. [00:35:53] So, like, the more money you have, the farther out you're allowed to have empathy. [00:35:57] Huh. [00:35:57] Yeah. [00:35:58] Interesting. [00:35:58] But then there's actually a funky thing here is that once you have more money, it just sucks back to yourself again, and you can't be empathetic at all. [00:36:04] Money sucks. [00:36:05] It's like when you're in a top down RPG, when you get near coins, they just come back to you. [00:36:12] No, no, it's like if you have too much money, it kind of blows your empathy speaker. [00:36:16] Oh, I see what you're saying. [00:36:17] So you're all out of empathy as you spend too much. [00:36:19] Speaking of blowing things, yeah, kneecap, well, I could have went a couple directions. [00:36:24] Kneecap was the sole reason for Cuba's power grid outage. [00:36:28] Yeah. [00:36:29] Wait a second. [00:36:29] Oh, what? [00:36:30] The beats were just too powerful, huh? [00:36:32] It just, it just, it just, it was kind of a claim to fame there. [00:36:35] No, no. [00:36:36] It went boom. [00:36:37] On the evening of March 21st, then the Nash, a nationwide power grid collapse happened. [00:36:42] It was at 6 45 local time. [00:36:45] And it was, according to the Cuba's mystery of energy and mines, that's when the reported outage happened. [00:36:51] But it was caused by what they're saying is an unexpected shutdown of a generation unit at a thermoelectric plant on the other side of the island. [00:37:01] The east side of the island. [00:37:03] The second nationwide blackout in six days, and the third was later in March. [00:37:07] But yeah, so it's fuel is the reason that this is happening. [00:37:11] It's not the beat. [00:37:13] Maybe they used up all the fuel with their beats. [00:37:15] You think? [00:37:16] I would imagine that it was probably also generators running this, would be my guess. [00:37:20] Probably, yes. [00:37:21] And then we do have a correction to avoid an admonishment, would be smart. [00:37:25] They never did admonish him for this, which is interesting. [00:37:29] For that, by the way, it's not just an individual. [00:37:30] Kneecap is the group name, not the individual. [00:37:32] I don't care. [00:37:32] No, I don't care either, but I want to make sure we don't have any. [00:37:34] No, I don't. [00:37:35] Kneecap the group. [00:37:35] I'm sorry. [00:37:36] It's like the Beastie Boys, but gay. [00:37:38] What are there, two of them? [00:37:40] They have the same fucking politics, you dumb fucking idiot. [00:37:45] Like, does he not fucking know? [00:37:47] He's like, like 1986 BC Boys, that's where it ends. [00:37:51] You know, fight for your right to party. [00:37:52] You should only be, of course, dehumanizing people and like hitting women in the face with pies. [00:37:57] That's where he got his entire personality from this music video. [00:38:01] And then, what, like three years later from that, they were just like, yeah, we were like, we're not really on that anymore. [00:38:08] We're trying to not do that. [00:38:09] We don't like that. [00:38:11] And then they became incredibly politically aware and politically active. [00:38:15] And now, in the passing of MCA, Ad Rock and Mike D feed New Yorkers for free all the time. [00:38:22] They have like a food truck, right? [00:38:23] It's like something that they do. [00:38:25] So, to show the world. [00:38:26] So they turned gay? [00:38:27] Yeah. [00:38:27] That sounds pretty gay to me. [00:38:30] Like, MCA was a Buddhist. [00:38:32] You know what I mean? [00:38:32] I think they all were, actually. [00:38:34] No, just MCA. [00:38:37] Are you sure? [00:38:38] It says by the early 90s, all three members had become practitioners of Tibetan Buddhism. [00:38:42] No, just MCA, but the other two are Jewish. [00:38:45] Yeah. [00:38:45] Oh, okay. [00:38:45] Sorry. [00:38:46] They're Jew boys. [00:38:46] They're all three Jew boys. [00:38:47] Well, they were Jew boys, but one was, yeah, yeah. [00:38:50] But they put a lot of efforts towards, like, these sort of, like, the Free Tibet concert, like, at the behest of MCA, basically, because of his, like, the Badhista Vasta Vow. [00:39:03] I can't even say it. [00:39:04] Badhista Vasta Vow? [00:39:06] That's not right, but that's somewhere in there. [00:39:09] So, the Beastie Boys are gay, too, then, right? [00:39:11] I guess so. [00:39:12] That's what Stephen's saying. [00:39:13] Yeah, contradicting yourself again. [00:39:15] It's so fucking stupid, man. [00:39:16] And it's kind of like when you, Hear people find out that like Rage Against Machine is political and they're like, go back to making music. [00:39:23] You know, fuck you. [00:39:24] I won't do what you told me. [00:39:25] Yeah, yeah. [00:39:26] Like, they got a red hat and they're like talking about vaccines. [00:39:29] Yeah, yeah. [00:39:31] It's just, it's. [00:39:31] I did a throwaway comment on a fucking Instagram post that was like a bar band playing Rage Against Machine. [00:39:39] And then they do an audience pan. [00:39:42] It is, yeah. [00:39:43] And they do an audience pan and it's like all these fucking clearly like mega bar or whatever. [00:39:48] A bunch of faded glory. [00:39:49] Yeah, just, you know, just loving it. [00:39:51] And I posted on there, it's like everyone in there voted for the machine. [00:39:54] I just got a comment fucking 20 minutes ago. [00:39:58] There's like almost 4,000 likes on it, but like this person just says, TBF, Rad M no longer rages against machines. [00:40:09] So yeah, they broke up, dipshit. [00:40:11] Oh, man. [00:40:12] I hate it. [00:40:13] So, you know, there's no power anywhere else on the island. [00:40:15] There was some power, you know, right there around the hotel. [00:40:18] Hey, do you think that members of the Cuban government can't hit a crank? [00:40:22] And let people boil their water? [00:40:24] No, of course they want to starve their people. [00:40:27] For the same reason, they have to have armed guards protecting these approved artists so that they don't get torn limb from limb. [00:40:34] But he wants to use this platform to push Palestine. [00:40:37] It says a guy who has 24 hour security. [00:40:39] But no, I don't think the Cuban government wants their people to starve. [00:40:44] It's so just juvenile level discussions of actual policy. [00:40:48] That's all that it is. [00:40:49] I don't know enough about economics to truly discuss these things. [00:40:53] What's going on here? [00:40:53] Yeah, but. [00:40:54] I know that Steven doesn't either, but Steven does it. [00:40:57] Wait, he did a Rising Crust pizza commercial. [00:40:59] He knows. [00:41:00] When he was 14. [00:41:01] Do you think that he had armed guards for his Rising Crust pizza commercial? [00:41:04] I don't know, actually. [00:41:05] I mean, I imagine there was, if he stayed at a resort or something, there was probably security. [00:41:09] A lot of people stayed at the same place. [00:41:10] He was like, very well, very possible. [00:41:13] He's just jealous they got to go back and he didn't. [00:41:15] He's just being a goofball, right? [00:41:17] Yeah, I mean, obviously there's evil in the world. [00:41:20] Steven implies that it's like the leadership is just like watching these things and being like, yes, do. [00:41:26] Die, children. [00:41:27] How minimizing is it to say that the country just could use like crank generators to boil water? [00:41:33] How about you have some respect for the people that you're trying to imply are being put in an awful position, right? [00:41:39] Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck about the Cubans. [00:41:40] He doesn't. [00:41:41] He gives a fuck about shitty on the left, so he is. [00:41:43] On to the next target of his breakdown here. === Five Star Hotel Politics (11:08) === [00:41:46] Hassan Piker. [00:41:47] Jeez. [00:41:48] Is the other player here. [00:41:50] And I'm going to fact check what he told you. [00:41:52] It's just factually incorrect. [00:41:53] He seems to be getting dumber. [00:41:55] He stayed, he flew commercial, looked like they were flying first class. [00:41:59] I have no problem with it, except for when you say you're going on a flotilla and you're doing this in solidarity with the Cuban people. [00:42:03] He never said that. [00:42:04] Yeah. [00:42:05] He never said he was going on the flotilla. [00:42:07] Well, yeah, which is it? [00:42:08] Did he get on the plane or did he get on the flotilla? [00:42:11] And I think that that would be probably like the thing that people would say that he did, right? [00:42:14] Uh, Yeah, this is just his misunderstanding again of what I said at the top of the show of the flotilla as a broad idea. [00:42:21] He's joining in Cuba. [00:42:23] Yeah, quote unquote, joining the flotilla. [00:42:26] Yeah. [00:42:26] And are you not allowed to spend your money on supporting people? [00:42:29] Not when you're socialist. [00:42:31] No, of course not. [00:42:32] No, because, yeah, why do you have money? [00:42:34] Yeah, and not when you have $3,000 pedophile glasses, right? [00:42:37] Sure, of course not. [00:42:39] It's even a five star hotel, the Grand Hotel Bristol in Havana. [00:42:45] The cheapest room is like over $200 a night. [00:42:47] The average salary for someone in Cuba is $13 a month, just to be clear. [00:42:51] Piker misinformed his audience. [00:42:53] He actually just wants you to know he was forced to stay at the five star hotel by the American government. [00:42:59] Before we get into Hassan's explanation of this hotel, speaking of misinforming his audience, Stephen is wrong here. [00:43:08] Hassan didn't stay at the Grand Hotel Bristol, Molina. [00:43:12] He didn't stay there. [00:43:12] Didn't stay there. [00:43:13] Where did he stay? [00:43:14] Well, I'll tell you, but this is something Fox News, a handful of other media outlets have been, New York, Post, of course, has been talking about this, saying that he stayed at this five star hotel. [00:43:25] That's not where he stayed. [00:43:26] He's there at the Ibar O Star Marquis de la Torre, which it's another hotel, but it is not on the restricted. [00:43:35] We'll break down the whole rules about where you can stay when you stay in Cuba, but it's not where Stephen says he stays. [00:43:42] Okay. [00:43:42] Stephen's wrong. [00:43:43] The American government makes it illegal for Americans to stay wherever they want when they're in Cuba. [00:43:51] They have to stay in what they've declared as five star hotels, right? [00:43:55] Wrong. [00:43:57] Oh, boy, you. [00:43:59] I'm telling you all this because, like, even the five star hotels are not, you know, good enough, huh? [00:44:05] Not for a guy with. [00:44:06] It's not like it's what the American government has declared five star hotels. [00:44:10] Ah, yeah, gross American government. [00:44:11] Enjoy those $2,000 Cartier pedophile glasses. [00:44:15] Myself by a thousand bucks. [00:44:16] Actually, I do think they were 3,000. [00:44:18] That's beyond the point. [00:44:20] There are rules. [00:44:21] Call them Gucci. [00:44:22] So we both got it wrong. [00:44:23] See, everyone's getting things wrong on. [00:44:25] Today's episode. [00:44:27] Admonish. [00:44:29] There are rules around where you can stay in Cuba. [00:44:33] Apparently, tourism is illegal, period. [00:44:36] Americans can't travel to Cuba as a tourist. [00:44:38] Travel has to fall under one of 12 OFAC authorized categories. [00:44:44] The most common one is support of the Cuban people, which requires a full schedule of activities that benefit Cuban businesses and citizens. [00:44:51] This is what I believe a handful of the people who participated in this air flotilla. [00:44:57] Sky Flytilla. [00:44:58] Flytilla, thank you. [00:45:00] That's kind of the category that they were visiting over. [00:45:03] But prohibited accommodations, there's a list of them. [00:45:08] 400 properties that Americans cannot stay at. [00:45:11] These are hotels, guest houses, and even some private homes that are owned and controlled by the Cuban military intelligence services, the Communist Party in general. [00:45:19] You can't stay at places that are owned. [00:45:22] The hotel, the Grand Whatever, was technically owned by or managed by the Cuban military. [00:45:29] Mm hmm. [00:45:29] That's where a lot of people were accusing Hassan of staying and saying that that was illegal. [00:45:35] He did not stay at that place, but you could see how private hotels, quote unquote, five star hotels that aren't owned by the government, they're very few and far between. [00:45:45] Your choices of where to stay are limited. [00:45:47] And I think that that's what Hassan is saying. [00:45:49] And by him critiquing saying this isn't a five star hotel like it is in the United States, I don't think he's saying, Oh, I wish it was. [00:45:57] It's the worst accommodations. [00:45:58] You guys would hate it. [00:45:59] Oh, it's so fucking gross. [00:46:01] Yeah. [00:46:01] He's just saying, Calm your horses. [00:46:03] I'm not eating caviar. [00:46:04] And he's saying that that's not what my goal would be. [00:46:06] Yeah, yeah. [00:46:07] That's obviously how Steven and Josh think. [00:46:09] Oh, it's not nice enough for you? [00:46:11] Yeah, it's like they're what we would say is probably like, I don't know. [00:46:16] I can't imagine it being better than like, you know, it's like, yeah, it's a resort. [00:46:21] It's a Hampton Inn by the airport. [00:46:23] Yeah, it's like, it's not anything extravagant. [00:46:26] So, like, what we would say is a five star, like, you go to LA and save in a five star, like off a Rodeo Drive or some shit. [00:46:32] You know what I mean? [00:46:33] Yeah. [00:46:33] It's not that. [00:46:34] What are you? [00:46:35] He's obviously complaining. [00:46:36] What are your expectations of like what is happening in Cuba right now? [00:46:40] Like, what do you think? [00:46:41] Like, Steven knows he's been there, right? [00:46:43] So it's like, are you trying to play up that he's like drinking fucking Mai Tai's beachside? [00:46:50] Is that what he thinks is happening? [00:46:51] That's what he wants his audience to think is happening. [00:46:54] He wants his audience to think that he was just there to take a picture with like the poverty and then go home. [00:46:58] I'm not sure if Steven's about to say it or not, but it was about like $200 a night to stay. [00:47:03] He did say that, yeah. [00:47:03] Did he? [00:47:04] Okay, good. [00:47:05] And then he compared it to how much Cubans make. [00:47:06] Which was also wrong. [00:47:08] That was an outdated statistic, but it's still only a couple dollars more. [00:47:12] It's like instead of $13 a month, is that what he said? [00:47:15] Sure. [00:47:15] It's $17, which I mean, still not a lot of money. [00:47:18] No, not a lot of money at all. [00:47:19] Maybe it was a week, but either way. [00:47:21] This is a hotel for people who do have money. [00:47:23] And it's just, I mean, you can't say as an American, I walk into Cuba and I'm suddenly wealthy. [00:47:28] You can't say that I'm a piece of shit because I just have the money that I have. [00:47:32] Yeah, especially when you're there to do good things. [00:47:34] Yeah, to bring support and to bring messaging, to bring. [00:47:38] Supplies and also leave your money at home, though. [00:47:40] Dick, the thing that I don't like that Stephen, I mean, Stephen, a guy who wore a flak jacket to a university, and I guess I mean, there's dangers around that. [00:47:48] I don't want to minimize that, you know, to deny what Israel did to Charlie. [00:47:52] Oh, wait, to deny what Tyler Robinson did to Charlie Kirk. [00:47:57] Israel, oh, it's so confusing. [00:48:00] It's so confusing. [00:48:01] Yeah, I've been on Twitter. [00:48:03] Hassan clearly has to stay at a hotel that has security, right? [00:48:08] He's a prominent figure. [00:48:10] Yeah, what he would do is he would knock on someone's door and say, Let me stay with you, please. [00:48:14] Hand in hat. [00:48:15] Hat in hand, pardon me. [00:48:18] Hand in hat is way different. [00:48:21] He's punching through the window. [00:48:23] Watch out. [00:48:27] It's just silly. [00:48:28] It's just silly. [00:48:29] Learn this in James Bond. [00:48:32] This distraction is bullshit. [00:48:34] And Steven, he's just trying to paint Hassan as a bad guy. [00:48:36] Of course he is. [00:48:37] Yeah, he should have compared it to how much it would be in real money. [00:48:40] That's what he really should have done. [00:48:41] He should have been like, Based on the U.S. median income, this hotel would cost you $17,000. [00:48:47] I mean, that would be more effective. [00:48:48] And they'd be like, oh. [00:48:49] And it does highlight a huge amount of privilege that we have. [00:48:53] Yes. [00:48:53] And that's why they're there because the privilege allows them to say, hey, I can come here and I can help you. [00:48:59] I can try to. [00:49:00] Yeah. [00:49:00] Shit on it because you're better than them, is what Stevens does. [00:49:02] I guess it's fine that they tried to help them, but I just wish that they didn't. [00:49:06] Yeah. [00:49:06] I mean, yeah. [00:49:07] Steven's not helping. [00:49:08] You help. [00:49:09] So good. [00:49:09] Why don't you help? [00:49:10] If you really want to own the left, You help better than they can. [00:49:13] Yeah, you go throw the fucking paper towels at their heads. [00:49:17] Yeah. [00:49:17] I want to see him this time around do dunking. [00:49:22] Yeah, yeah. [00:49:23] He's tall. [00:49:24] Trump makes a hoop with his arms and makes the Puerto Ricans dunk the paper towels. [00:49:28] Do you think this is like. [00:49:29] Tall guy supremacy shit. [00:49:31] Like, they're Crowder's like, I'm just as tall as he is, man. [00:49:34] I could get out there. [00:49:35] I could dunk on these Cubans. [00:49:37] You know, they're about the same age. [00:49:38] They're not that tall. [00:49:40] They're about the same age. [00:49:41] I think that he is kind of. [00:49:42] Hassan, Stephen. [00:49:43] Yeah, I think he's ticked about how hunky Hassan might. [00:49:46] I think he is, yeah. [00:49:47] Paging Dr. Hyde. [00:49:49] But the truth, the truth is. [00:49:52] The truth is the opposite of that. [00:49:54] It's actually the opposite. [00:49:54] Americans are only prohibited from staying at government owned properties. [00:49:58] And there are plenty of people who do missions trips or do charity work, right? [00:50:01] There are exemptions. [00:50:02] The American policy is. [00:50:04] Actually, officially, to encourage that people stay at individual homes. [00:50:08] They're called casas particulares, if I'm pronouncing that. [00:50:10] Particulares. [00:50:11] Particulares. [00:50:12] Meaning the American government says you just can't stay at government owned properties, and we recommend that you stay at individual Airbnbs so that your money will go directly to people. [00:50:22] Hassan Piker chose to stay at the five star hotel, which he wants you to know isn't all that nice. [00:50:28] Does it get any more obvious as far as limousine liberal, if people use the term champagne socialist? [00:50:35] Could it possibly be any more obvious that these people are loyal to communism and that they're evil? [00:50:42] Shut up, you dog shit idiot. [00:50:47] You fucking moron. [00:50:48] Shut the fuck up. [00:50:50] Could it be any more obvious that you voted for a pedophile three fucking times and that you're on your knees for him all the fucking time? [00:50:57] Oh, we should give the pedophile army more money. [00:51:00] What are we talking about? [00:51:01] Like, he went to fucking Cuba. [00:51:02] I guess it's fine you try to help out, but I wish it wasn't him. [00:51:05] But also, I voted for a pedophile three different fucking times. [00:51:08] Shut the fuck up, Steven. [00:51:10] Stupid asshole. [00:51:12] God damn. [00:51:13] Fucking dumb. [00:51:16] It makes me mad when I listen to this particular clip because, I mean, this general idea that, you know, you can't help from a position of money or a position of power. [00:51:25] No. [00:51:26] Because they are so clearly, for one, you can, of course, but also they have so much love for this guy who's making fucking billions off the back of the presidency. [00:51:34] And they're like, he donates his salary. [00:51:36] He doesn't fucking donate his salary. [00:51:38] Yeah, he just sued America for $10 billion. [00:51:40] All right. [00:51:41] So, like, that's like 400 times his fucking salary. [00:51:46] And they're cool with that, though. [00:51:47] So, like, shut the fuck up. [00:51:49] These people are so stupid, man. [00:51:51] Can't put fucking two and two together at all. [00:51:54] Never. [00:51:54] Not even one time. [00:51:55] Not even for like a beat. [00:51:57] Oh, a granular fucking, you know, pushing the right direction here. [00:52:01] It's just like, yeah, God damn. [00:52:04] Like, yeah, Hassan Piker has money. [00:52:07] You know, he bought his family a house that was like the biggest, like, that was a huge. [00:52:10] Point of contention for people who are like three million dollar house, Jerry, yeah, in LA, which in Los Angeles is uh pretty nice, yeah, not that nice. [00:52:19] How much was the house? [00:52:20] Three mil. [00:52:20] That's that's really, yeah, I mean, where we live, it's like the median price in one of the cities where we live is a million dollars. [00:52:27] It's like the low end of like you know, I'm sure, I'm sure that he has like a five or six bedroom house, but he lives with his mom and dad, his brother, like two dogs, you know what I mean? [00:52:38] Like he big dogs too. [00:52:40] What Steven refuses to admit here is that if people in poverty. [00:52:44] Had the power to support people in poverty out of poverty, there wouldn't be people in poverty. [00:52:49] Like, yeah, obviously, there's huge strength in numbers, but you can't say in order to help the poor, you have to be poor. === Neville Roy and the Tire (15:07) === [00:52:54] That's just, it's a stupid, stupid thing to look at. [00:52:57] And again, we have to talk about security. [00:52:58] Stephen, Hassan's not going to go to an Airbnb of a local owner of a home. [00:53:04] I'm sorry. [00:53:04] You do it, Stephen. [00:53:05] Yeah, would you do that? [00:53:06] Go, go do it. [00:53:07] Hey, I gave a white family a Christmas present. [00:53:12] You did give a boy a tablet. [00:53:14] An iPad. [00:53:15] You know, I had to make a big fucking to do about it. [00:53:17] I made a whole episode and I made the family rehearse it with me, too. [00:53:21] You're not excited enough, son. [00:53:23] You need to do a little bit more than that if I'm giving you a $300 iPad. [00:53:28] I'm sure. [00:53:30] It's refurbished. [00:53:31] It's refurbished. [00:53:31] It's a refurb, but what are you going to complain? [00:53:35] I don't know, man. [00:53:36] Put your credentials up. [00:53:37] What have you done for your community lately? [00:53:40] What have you done to inform people outside of giving them statistics from 1997 lately? [00:53:46] Well, I'm sure he gives money to churches and then they go do their mission trips, which is a totally problematic thing. [00:53:54] No, you're probably right. [00:53:55] But even the mission trips that he does, Gerald does. [00:53:57] Yeah, Gerald does. [00:53:59] I'm pretty anti mission these days. [00:54:01] We'll always act. [00:54:02] Not just these days, but I don't think he's done with Hassan, though. [00:54:06] Here's something else. [00:54:06] I just couldn't believe that this was said out loud. [00:54:09] And just picture someone saying this like, yeah, the Africans in Africa suck, but the Africans in America are cool, or vice versa. [00:54:19] This is exactly what Hassan said. [00:54:20] The Cubans in Miami, the people who fled Cuba, they're actually bad. [00:54:25] But the Cubans in Cuba are cool. [00:54:27] So don't listen to the Cuban Americans who tell you it's bad. [00:54:29] Listen to Hassan Piker. [00:54:32] Not in Miami? [00:54:32] Oh, dude, it's the reversal. [00:54:35] Actually, literally, like, exact opposite. [00:54:38] Like, all the good Cubans stayed here, and most of the ones that are crazy just like flew up there. [00:54:46] I swear to God. [00:54:47] So, I did cut that a little short. [00:54:48] The choppiness is due to Elon Musk's internet service. [00:54:52] Oh, yeah. [00:54:53] It's fine, but not that good. [00:54:55] A lot of people pointed out that Hassan was using Elon's internet on his whatever flotilla adventure, and I just don't see how that's even a little relevant. [00:55:03] Yeah, right. [00:55:04] We exist within the system, however broken it is. [00:55:06] And that's it. [00:55:07] It's like my ideology is also. [00:55:09] Democratic socialists. [00:55:11] Does that make it more possible for me to do that if I'm working under a capitalist, like, you know, an economic system that is capitalism? [00:55:22] You work within the system with the resources that are available. [00:55:25] Yeah. [00:55:26] I dream of a better world, but like, I still have to play the game to pay for my apartment. [00:55:31] Right. [00:55:32] Right. [00:55:32] Exactly. [00:55:33] And he's using Elon Musk stuff to fight for the right things. [00:55:37] Right. [00:55:38] And so, yeah, I don't fuck with it. [00:55:40] And to point out the political differences of people who are former. [00:55:44] I guess they're Cuban living in the United States that are against the regime versus the people there. [00:55:49] To point out that there's a difference between those beliefs is expected, I guess, right? [00:55:56] Like people who leave a place are generally going to have a negative view of it if they left for reasons that they've determined. [00:56:03] Sure. [00:56:03] Yeah. [00:56:04] For him to point out that there's good ones on the island that are like enjoying, I mean, clearly their struggles, but they're like still in support of whatever's happening. [00:56:14] The way that I interpret what he said was I've met Cubans in Miami. [00:56:17] And I came here and I met Cubans, and I have a new understanding and appreciation for the culture of Cuba as it lives here. [00:56:23] Nothing wrong with that. [00:56:24] I don't know. [00:56:24] But I mean, of course, Cuban conservatives are pretty obnoxious. [00:56:27] I don't know that many. [00:56:29] Well, you know, Stephen's gay manager is former Cuban, the one that gave basically Stephen an F slur card. [00:56:36] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:56:37] And that is going to be dropping soon over at shrug.club, of course. [00:56:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:56:41] I'll push this button really fast just for fun. [00:56:45] Hello, shrug nation. [00:56:46] Great place. [00:56:47] Great place, best place. [00:56:48] Where we are investigating Stephen's comedy show. [00:56:51] Yeah. [00:56:53] What I hate about this kind of stuff is it's like they're criticizing the way these people are trying to help and they don't even want to help. [00:56:58] No. [00:56:59] I think that they think help is the full reset, the regime change. [00:57:04] Totally. [00:57:05] It's like they criticize someone for giving money to a homeless person by going, they're just going to buy booze. [00:57:09] Well, there's a larger problem. [00:57:10] I'm trying to help somebody. [00:57:11] Chill the fuck out. [00:57:12] Yeah. [00:57:12] It helps with a struggle regardless of if that struggle is in the moment going to be positive, right? [00:57:19] It's clear that Stephen doesn't want to help. [00:57:21] No. [00:57:21] Don't criticize the way I'm helping. [00:57:22] Fuck you. [00:57:23] You help. [00:57:24] You do it. [00:57:24] I want Stephen to try and own the libs by being better at helping. [00:57:28] By purchasing the libs. [00:57:30] Yeah, purchase the libs and then help the libs. [00:57:32] We got more libs to talk about. [00:57:34] I love libs. [00:57:34] Code Pink is the other player. [00:57:35] Remember Code Pink? [00:57:36] Code Pink, they used to be like the anti war troop of shrieking feminists show up in something about, hands off my vagina or whatever. [00:57:43] Now they're in Cuba. [00:57:44] You were saying for a while, where'd they go? [00:57:46] Yeah, where'd they go? [00:57:46] Where have they been? [00:57:47] Well, they went to communist Cuba to give a standing oath to the regime. [00:57:51] Here's a quote from the website Code Pink is a feminist grassroots organization working to end U.S. warfare and imperialism. [00:57:57] Support peace and human rights initiatives and redirect resources into healthcare, education, green jobs, and other life affirming programs. [00:58:05] What's funny to me is you'll note there aren't a ton of rainbow flags, a lot of free Palestine, but not a ton of rainbow flags. [00:58:10] Yeah, Che Guevara sent everyone who he referred to as a faggot to labor camps, saying that the work would make them men. [00:58:18] They're not super tolerant of that in communist Cuba. [00:58:22] Okay, so we're talking about when Che Guevara was in control in the 60s? [00:58:27] Yep. [00:58:28] Yep. [00:58:29] And then stating that there's not a lot of support for homosexuality in Cuba, which, listen, Che Guevara did say that in the 60s and 70s. [00:58:38] They had, what was it, the UMAP, kind of like a labor camp, right? [00:58:44] Yeah. [00:58:45] Yeah. [00:58:45] I mean, and that's fucked up and not great. [00:58:48] However, attitudes shifted in the 90s and 2000s towards homosexuality, which is interesting that, yeah, about the same time that our, well, I guess President Obama was. [00:58:59] Anti gay marriage for a while until the mid 2000s. [00:59:02] Like, same with Hillary Clinton. [00:59:04] All these progressive folks start, not progressive, but more progressive. [00:59:10] Hillary Clinton, my progressive queen. [00:59:11] My queen. [00:59:12] It's also, I guess, like, just to say, like, he wasn't the person who, like, created that system or something either. [00:59:19] You know what I mean? [00:59:20] Oh, I don't know that. [00:59:22] Yeah. [00:59:22] There's also something to be said. [00:59:24] You're very right, though, Jared, to point that out. [00:59:26] Yeah. [00:59:26] There's something to be said that if you try and help people. [00:59:30] Who might not believe the same things as you. [00:59:32] Like, that's a good thing in many ways. [00:59:34] Like, it's like if you pulled over and you helped a guy with a flat tire and you found out he was like anti gay and then a gay person helped him with his tire. [00:59:42] That could change the attitude. [00:59:44] Yeah, yeah, exactly. [00:59:44] And like, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to help you until you, or not help your country until you support me. [00:59:51] They're helping the people of Cuba. [00:59:53] That's it. [00:59:53] They're not there to like say, I support everything that happens here. [00:59:56] Right. [00:59:57] And I think that like, especially if we're like, if you don't know the history of it, where I'm just like, let me like read about this for a second. [01:00:03] It makes it easier for us to like have to dance around it. [01:00:06] You know what I mean? [01:00:07] For that sake, if we, you know, just knowledge is power here. [01:00:10] And so, like, what we're saying is that, like, the system of forced labor, which was used to persecute gay men, right? [01:00:16] Yeah. [01:00:16] That was established after Guevara left Cuba. [01:00:19] So, there's also relatively little evidence of homophobia in Chase's personal life. [01:00:25] The whole of his very prolific writing contains only one homophobic statement, a line in the motorcycle diaries discussed below. [01:00:33] Which uses language that was unfortunately quite common for the time and place. [01:00:37] Claims that Che frequently used homophobic slurs appear to be baseless as well. [01:00:41] And this is from something from six years ago that has also been there. [01:00:44] Yeah, and that could be, that's better than what I was saying in the 2000s, right? [01:00:49] Yeah. [01:00:50] While this is true that gay men were put into these labor camps for the military units to aid production post Cuban revolution, Che himself was not. [01:01:03] Participating in putting these men anywhere because he was in the Congo. [01:01:08] Cuba got involved with like Angola and obviously the Congo here, you know, because their military forces were seen as formidable. [01:01:19] And that's why they were going to other places in the world to kind of trick. [01:01:21] Like, they trained, I believe, the Angolan soldiers while they were going into the Angolan genocide that was taking place. [01:01:29] A lot of the thought around homosexuality during this era that Stephen wants to try to apply to the present is pretty common, unfortunately. [01:01:40] Sure. [01:01:40] The idea that groups that have incompatible ideas can't assist each other in certain ways is just such a tribal mentality. [01:01:47] It's the same with the Gays for Gaza, Jerry Seinfeld's joke. [01:01:51] Of course. [01:01:51] Jerry Seinfeld famously wrote the KFC for chickens. [01:01:56] Bit, huh? [01:01:56] Yeah, yeah. [01:01:57] Allegedly. [01:01:58] It's Code Pink. [01:01:59] Code Pink, the co founder, again, there with Hassan and the Irish rap group, Kneecap. [01:02:05] So, Jody Evans, married to a guy named Neville Roy Singham. [01:02:09] He works with the CCP to specifically spread Chinese propaganda. [01:02:13] Shares a Shanghai office with the CCP media company, Maku Group. [01:02:17] We've talked about the Maku Group. [01:02:19] They produce pro China content that, of course, gets distributed across TikTok. [01:02:23] You know, where Hassan also took part, the Little red book, right? [01:02:27] Remember, he was like, oh, wow, I'm going to cherish this forever. [01:02:30] And by the way, also responsible for 25% of Code Pink's donations. [01:02:34] So the same people saying, yeah, you know, communist Cuba is fine. [01:02:39] Communist Cuba is better than Trump's America. [01:02:41] The Islamic Republic is better than Trump's America. [01:02:45] Hamas, better than Trump's America. [01:02:48] The Communist Chinese Party, better than Trump's America. [01:02:51] Are you guys starting to get the picture? [01:02:54] You may think that one of them is. [01:02:56] But when all of them are, you go, oh, their allegiance is to Marxism. [01:03:00] I think every idea is dumb if you distill it down to the dumb parts. [01:03:04] He tries to make them so, like, on their face stupid, and he doesn't actually address, like, the nuance of it all. [01:03:10] Well, he's using the word communism as a stand in for evil, right? [01:03:14] He sounds like Bob from the necessary conversation. [01:03:17] He does a little bit, yeah, which, whew, guy, that's not a fun show these days. [01:03:22] This Neville Roy person is connected with the CCP a little bit. [01:03:26] But they have similar goals, and that goal is socialism, like some sort of more people focused control of the government, right? [01:03:33] Sure. [01:03:34] I don't think there's anything wrong with that. [01:03:35] But the way Stephen's framing it, of course, it's going to feel that way. [01:03:38] Well, and I think the hard part is for Stephen is like if you're discussing these things that are happening, you can assume the intentions of people, you can assume those things, but you're never going to truly know them. [01:03:49] And Stephen is not talking about the actions, he's just discrediting the person. [01:03:54] It's like saying you hate Coca Cola without actually describing what it tastes like. [01:03:57] Going back. [01:03:58] To my guy, the gay guy helping the guy change a tire. [01:04:02] If someone was like, hey, did you know that guy was gay who just helped you? [01:04:05] You wouldn't be like, oh, fuck that. [01:04:07] I got a flash of tire. [01:04:08] Yeah, right? [01:04:08] You can be like, oh, well, that was a nice thing. [01:04:11] Say what side of the car tire did you change? [01:04:12] I disagree with them, but that was a nice thing they did. [01:04:15] Right. [01:04:15] Was it a right tire or a left tire? [01:04:17] Yeah, I don't know. [01:04:18] Yeah, it was a left tire, dude. [01:04:19] The left tire is gay. [01:04:20] Yeah. [01:04:21] If you change that one, then my car's not going to go straight. [01:04:23] I don't know. [01:04:23] Jared, do you know much about this Neville Roy person? [01:04:26] Or do you have any thoughts surrounding supporting the CCP? [01:04:29] I know that. [01:04:30] Hassan did go to China and talked a lot about that during his trip. [01:04:33] He fucking dug it. [01:04:35] Yeah, I think that they treated him pretty well. [01:04:37] And I, you know, not, I don't really know that much about this one. [01:04:41] Yeah, I don't know much about Code Pink. [01:04:42] Neville Roy. [01:04:43] I, I, I guess I'm. [01:04:45] So Neville Roy is actually just the husband of one of the people who started Code Pink. [01:04:49] So it's even less connected, right? [01:04:52] Oh, okay. [01:04:53] They did receive a $1.4 million donation from a group linked to Neville Roy. [01:04:57] Sure. [01:04:58] I do think, obviously, there's dark money and questions around everything. [01:05:01] All the money that we Been in the world? [01:05:02] Sure. [01:05:03] My thought is we just need more transparency around organizations. [01:05:06] And I think that Stephen wouldn't want that. [01:05:07] You know, like if Stephen were to show his financials to prove that he's not corrupt, like. [01:05:12] Well, he said he's never taken money from any sort of big con. [01:05:16] Okay. [01:05:17] Or PAC, right? [01:05:18] Okay. [01:05:18] Okay. [01:05:19] Yeah, I don't know. [01:05:19] I mean, I don't know enough about Code Pink or Neville Roy to really like form a strong opinion about them. [01:05:27] But I do know that Stephen doesn't either. [01:05:28] But he's going to find a couple things and then, you know, build an idea that it's a villain. [01:05:32] The idea, though, that people who have similar mindsets about Marxism, communism, socialism would be supporting causes that are also aligned with that, I'm not surprised by that. [01:05:43] How is it America first to open up a dialogue and bring ourselves down to the level of a communist nation? [01:05:49] In order to ensure economic prosperity for everyone, I'm a little confused. [01:05:53] Why should we ensure the economic prosperity of China? [01:05:57] We don't need to kowtow to them. [01:05:58] We're the ones holding the cards. [01:05:59] What part of that is America first? [01:06:01] America's not America first, man. [01:06:02] No, it is. [01:06:03] We love it. [01:06:05] Spider cash, baby. [01:06:07] Spider cash coming to your wallet, coming to your crypto wallet. [01:06:10] Spider cash, come get them. [01:06:12] We got you can buy a house with my spider cash. [01:06:17] You can circumvent your state's pornography laws with spider cash. [01:06:23] You're going to be shooting webs. [01:06:26] That's what we're trying to get at here. [01:06:28] We need a Spider Cash pointing meme. [01:06:30] I think that would be really fun. [01:06:31] Where he's pointing at all three things. [01:06:33] Oh, yeah. [01:06:33] Oh, yeah. [01:06:34] See, that's a meme I know. [01:06:35] We're not America First, man. [01:06:36] No. [01:06:36] We're just not. [01:06:37] Like, you were lied to and you believe that, but we're not. [01:06:40] Get fucking Matt Damon to do a Spider Cash commercial. [01:06:44] Moving away from Code Pink, though, he didn't have much other than those conspiracy ish allegations. [01:06:49] Yeah, yeah. [01:06:50] And, of course, they're feminists. [01:06:51] Well, they're screeching feminists. [01:06:53] And they talk like in a gay list. [01:06:54] Yeah, they do. [01:06:55] I don't know why. [01:06:57] Code pink, more like code pink hair. [01:07:00] Also, how do you do that? [01:07:02] How do you ensure prosperity of the people in nations like China or Cuba or Venezuela or Iran or when they're communist and they guarantee that their own people will never experience prosperity? [01:07:17] How do you do that? [01:07:18] I just don't understand how that's America first. [01:07:19] Here's what I view as America first. [01:07:21] Donald Trump's the first president ever to do anything about China. [01:07:24] It was a foregone conclusion that they were going to be a world superpower. [01:07:28] And the worst part is, they were going to do that through ripping people off and underhanded tactics. [01:07:35] I want China, when I say this, I mean the communist Chinese government, as powerless, as feckless as possible. [01:07:43] I don't want to link arms with them in any way. [01:07:45] That's kind of unavoidable, though, right? [01:07:47] Everything in your fucking studio is made in China, you idiot. [01:07:51] Every item. [01:07:53] About to play on the Auntie Boy track. [01:07:56] If he checked every item in his studio, I bet 90%. [01:08:00] Or more is made in China. [01:08:01] We know the shirts are for sure. === Shark Shirts Made in China (07:24) === [01:08:02] Of course, yeah. [01:08:03] Foundation's not. [01:08:05] Foundation's made in Plano, Texas in his shop behind his house. [01:08:12] All the wood shavings. [01:08:15] He just has a big vat he's stirring with an oar. [01:08:17] Yeah, yeah. [01:08:18] Making foundation. [01:08:19] Oh, my God. [01:08:20] They're a little bit more cumin. [01:08:23] What is the cumin on there? [01:08:24] I don't know. [01:08:25] It's turmeric. [01:08:26] Yeah, turmeric? [01:08:27] Something else. [01:08:28] Something else. [01:08:28] And garlic. [01:08:29] Like salt. [01:08:30] Black pepper extract. [01:08:31] I don't know. [01:08:32] Yeah, you can make a mean cup of like ginger based tea with that. [01:08:37] Empty a drink. [01:08:37] I drink foundation. [01:08:38] Yeah. [01:08:39] You probably could. [01:08:40] Just boil the pill. [01:08:42] Again, he's just got kid brain about what he thinks America should be, right? [01:08:47] Like, in your head, of course, it would be great if we could make and provide everything inside of our own country. [01:08:52] Bunch of Rambos show up and start just fucking everything up in other countries, you know? [01:08:57] And then we get rich. [01:08:59] I think what's interesting also. [01:09:01] But then we give the money to. [01:09:03] Ronald Reagan's head. [01:09:05] Of course, he ought to lay it at his head feet. [01:09:06] The feet of his head. [01:09:07] The foot of his head. [01:09:09] Yeah, of course. [01:09:10] Obviously, I don't know enough about world economics. [01:09:14] To say that another country gaining strength is just inherently bad for us is if you want to be the most powerful country in the world, you can't necessarily be focused on just your country. [01:09:23] You have to work together. [01:09:24] Yes. [01:09:25] Yeah, I don't know. [01:09:26] I mean, there is competition between countries, right? [01:09:29] Of course. [01:09:29] I think that it would be great for us to be. [01:09:31] We paint with all the colors of the communist rainbow. [01:09:34] Now we're talking. [01:09:34] It doesn't have the same ring as wind, but I'll count it. [01:09:37] I feel like one of Stephen's favorite presidents was Nixon, right? [01:09:40] I think he's more of a Reagan guy. [01:09:42] He's more of a Reagan guy, probably. [01:09:43] But either way, Nixon was the one who normalized relations with China. [01:09:47] In 1972. [01:09:48] It worked that way all through, like, until now. [01:09:51] Well, I think that the problem is a lot of the people who are like America First, they'd be like, we should just move all manufacturing back here immediately. [01:09:58] No questions asked. [01:09:59] Today. [01:09:59] That's not what we're good at, though. [01:10:01] I know that there's a reason we don't do that. [01:10:03] To be America First, if you want to be America First, you have to understand that we exist in the world before we exist in America. [01:10:09] And the world, there's some benefits to that. [01:10:11] Yeah, there's all these economics of imports and exports that are so complicated. [01:10:16] And if you try and distill it down and make it simple, of course it's not going to make sense because it can't make sense simply. [01:10:22] You sound like an idiot. [01:10:23] I'm an idiot. [01:10:24] Yeah, how come Venezuela don't got oil for us yet? [01:10:27] They got that gritty oil. [01:10:29] Too crude. [01:10:30] That's crude. [01:10:34] That's crude. [01:10:35] Oh, God. [01:10:36] And they'll tell you now, no, no, not that communism. [01:10:39] And they'll move on to the next one and say, it didn't work, but it hasn't been tried right yet. [01:10:44] They can't help themselves. [01:10:44] They still have to praise the communist regime that is imprisoning, torturing, and executing their own people. [01:10:51] But it goes a little. [01:10:52] Let's go through the list of people who supported knowingly communism while they were executing people without trial under Castro's post Che Guevara revolution. [01:11:00] 64, Bob Dylan's girlfriend, Susan Ritolo, Francis Ford Coppola, Ted Turner, Bernie Sanders in 85 and 89, Peter Jennings, Katie Couric, Steven Spielberg in 2002, Oliver Stone, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, now Hassan Piker, Code Pink, Kneecap. [01:11:14] They all praise. [01:11:16] Do you believe that they don't know? [01:11:20] Do you believe that these people just don't know that it's an oppressive communist regime? [01:11:25] Or, do you think I have a case where I say they do know? [01:11:30] That's what they want for you. [01:11:36] So stupid. [01:11:38] Let's list these post Che Castro supporting folks. [01:11:44] That's so dumb to say everything is related to leaders in the past who may have done something that he considers bad. [01:11:51] Sure. [01:11:51] Well, and I think that this is just one of those, another simplification of the idea that. [01:11:55] By going and saying, I support these people and I want to help support Cubans, that you're saying Cuba is the perfect government. [01:12:00] No one is saying that. [01:12:02] Nobody is saying that. [01:12:03] And you can speak out against humanitarian issues without saying that the country is perfect. [01:12:08] And that you want it to remain the way it is. [01:12:10] Of course, we want people to. [01:12:12] He says that the concept of communism is against prosperity. [01:12:17] And that's not really the case. [01:12:19] Correct. [01:12:19] He wants everyone to be as well off as possible. [01:12:22] They have like one of the most interesting governments out there. [01:12:25] Like, do you remember USA? [01:12:27] We cut them off of the whole COVID thing. [01:12:29] Bounce back, excuse me. [01:12:31] And then Cuba made their own vaccination, just so we're like, All right, well, if you're not going to help us, we'll just do our own. [01:12:38] And they did it, and it had better results than like any of the American Pfizer or uh, uh, the Trump uh, and then you know what they did with it, dude? [01:12:48] They they you know they did with it, yeah, they dumped it in the ocean, yeah, and they made all the sharks immune, yeah. [01:12:54] And now, and now all the sharks are on cocaine, though. [01:12:57] But if we if we send electric boats out, that'll take care of it, yeah. [01:13:00] Because then we can get the shark. [01:13:01] Because then we can dehydrate the sharks and then sniff their bodies. [01:13:06] Yeah, the fins. [01:13:07] Yeah. [01:13:08] Make a soup out of it. [01:13:09] Soup, but also a numbing agent. [01:13:11] Make you talk all night. [01:13:14] Really interesting. [01:13:15] Hey, buddy, you want a little bit of this shark? [01:13:16] You want to buy some of this shark off of me? [01:13:19] Is it soup or? [01:13:21] Oh, it's dehydrated soup. [01:13:23] Yeah, it's dehydrated soup. [01:13:24] Medically, though, wasn't it Cuba who had that lung cancer vaccine as well? [01:13:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:13:30] They cured lung cancer so they can breathe cigars in, they can inhale cigars. [01:13:37] Steven likes that. [01:13:38] They're smoking them, they're not even fucking washing it around in their mouth and Pushing it out, they're inhaling it now because that's what they like doing, and but now they won't get lung cancer because of it. [01:13:48] Like us puny Americans with our puny American lungs, yeah, we have those little bronchi, dude. [01:13:53] I'm trying to think what else they have like a hundred percent literacy rate on their island, they have a wonderful system of like they cured like diabetes. [01:14:01] Also, they're like, you know, we we love smoking cigars like just straight to the dome and like drinking a full sugar coke, and they hit home runs all the time, all the time, yeah. [01:14:11] They have very good baseball players. [01:14:13] I can you guys distill this down? [01:14:15] Is Cuba good or bad? [01:14:16] I like it. [01:14:18] I think it seems okay. [01:14:19] But is it? [01:14:20] I need to know yes or no. [01:14:21] Yes. [01:14:22] Good. [01:14:23] Yeah. [01:14:25] Great. [01:14:26] Well, we got one more clip today. [01:14:28] I wasn't going to play this because I thought that that ding would be a good place to end the show. [01:14:32] Hard ding at the end. [01:14:34] But this one was too much for me, so I had to leave it in. [01:14:38] It's an interview. [01:14:39] Oh, no. [01:14:44] All right. [01:14:45] Let's welcome back our Cuban on the ground correspondent, Luis. [01:14:49] Oh, yes. [01:14:49] Steven, what's cooking, baby? [01:14:51] Well, I'm glad to have you back out. [01:14:53] Let me ask you, what's the general feeling on the island with all of these activists who are visiting? [01:14:58] It's great. [01:14:59] We are all super happy, and now we have food and power, and everything is perfect. [01:15:05] Oh, really? [01:15:06] No, Steven, everything is some more bad. [01:15:09] Didn't they bring supplies, though, for the Cuban people? [01:15:13] That's what they said. [01:15:14] That's what they said. [01:15:15] They even brought me another chew. [01:15:17] But then the government found out, and they took my other chew and my new chew. [01:15:22] Now I have no chews. [01:15:25] You have no shoes? === Handling Sex Talk Years Old (02:37) === [01:15:27] They're so fucking stupid. [01:15:28] Now I'm starting to realize why maybe his. [01:15:31] Were they blue shoes? [01:15:32] It seems pretty obvious the reasons that Stephen's DiGiorno commercial never came out. [01:15:37] Not a good actor. [01:15:38] Not at all. [01:15:39] That's a mess. [01:15:39] And that's all I can handle for this week. [01:15:41] If you disagree with us, feel free to reach out at Van Crowder on Blue Sky and X, louder than Crowder at gmail.com. [01:15:49] And if they reach out, what's their goal? [01:15:51] What's the goal? [01:15:52] To convince us otherwise. [01:15:53] Of course. [01:15:53] Yeah, sometimes. [01:15:54] Or you could just email us with a shrug club scoop, right? [01:15:58] Yeah. [01:15:59] What are the shrug club? [01:16:01] Addresses, phone numbers. [01:16:04] No, that's one thing. [01:16:06] Don't send us anything like that, please. [01:16:08] Because then, when we are at some point when discovery is put upon us during a lawsuit, I don't want it to be implied that we were actively seeking out information. [01:16:21] Yeah, we have the information. [01:16:22] No, we didn't use it. [01:16:23] And we didn't ask for it. [01:16:25] Okay. [01:16:25] I just want to, this is for the lawyers in the future. [01:16:28] That's all. [01:16:29] Just want to get that on the record. [01:16:31] It's going to be interesting to see when. [01:16:33] We do take Cuba because I think we have our hands in too many pots right now. [01:16:39] No, Trump can handle it all. [01:16:41] You think so? [01:16:42] Rubio sucks. [01:16:42] We can talk about anything we want. [01:16:43] We can talk about sex. [01:16:46] We can talk about sex. [01:16:48] I got plenty of time. [01:16:49] Is it different in Cuba? [01:16:52] Ask Rubio. [01:16:54] Ask little Marco. [01:16:55] Horniest president. [01:16:56] He's rivaling Bill Clinton. [01:16:58] Of course he is. [01:17:00] It's a little different too. [01:17:01] It's like Clinton's was more like. [01:17:05] Not necessarily, I don't want to say age appropriate, but like, you know, he was like a younger man when he was like in. [01:17:10] Sure. [01:17:10] But then you start saying age appropriate and you're like, well, she wasn't really. [01:17:14] I'm not really talking about that. [01:17:15] I'm more talking about. [01:17:17] Not age gap. [01:17:17] We're talking about legality. [01:17:18] Yeah. [01:17:19] Yeah. [01:17:19] Like, just sort of like, you know, he's like, he's 46 years old and he's like, I still got it. [01:17:24] It's a little different than Trump being like, I'm 80 years old. [01:17:27] Do you want to talk about sex? [01:17:29] There's kids in the room. [01:17:31] Please. [01:17:31] This is normal for me. [01:17:33] See, I was thinking the other day, you know, everyone's talking about like, well, he's just kind of like doing this, his like dementia brain sort of like, you know, he's just kind of like trying to play back the hits in his brain a little bit. [01:17:43] And that's why they maybe keep on leaving so far. [01:17:45] You know, it's like this whole thing. [01:17:46] It's like, could you then just sort of like honeypot the president and just be like, yeah, she's 15, Dawn? [01:17:53] And he's just like, I know how to handle that. [01:17:55] And then, you know what I mean? [01:17:56] Then you just get a picture of him doing, you know, what everyone says that he's doing. [01:18:01] And it's like, well, he's still about it. [01:18:02] You know, you just confuse him a little bit. [01:18:04] Hey, it's fine. === Dennis Study on Dementia (01:25) === [01:18:05] You should go do this. [01:18:06] There's no cameras involved. [01:18:07] I think that most of them would be like, can we change the law or something? [01:18:11] Yeah, yeah. [01:18:13] The president can do it, though. [01:18:15] You guys are. [01:18:16] The president can do it. [01:18:18] I'm going to say the president can't do it. [01:18:20] No. [01:18:21] I'm against that. [01:18:22] But I know Dennis has to go train a dog. [01:18:24] I got to go make my dog stop shitting. [01:18:26] What? [01:18:27] Inside. [01:18:27] Well, it's going to. [01:18:28] Well, inside. [01:18:28] It's never done that, actually. [01:18:29] Not inside. [01:18:30] Oh, wow. [01:18:31] Congratulations on that. [01:18:32] Fun time, boys. [01:18:33] Next week, we return with a full episode of this nonsense. [01:18:36] I just thought that it would be fun to slide through this vibey approach to Cuba. [01:18:41] Yeah, I wish I knew more about it. [01:18:42] Yeah. [01:18:42] Well, we might. [01:18:43] I'll study. [01:18:43] We can learn a little bit more. [01:18:44] I'll link you to a cool. 10 parter, if you want to hear it, it's pretty cool. [01:18:48] Do it, please. [01:18:49] Letting Tell next episode of Louder and then Crowder. [01:18:53] I'm Byron. [01:18:54] I'm Dennis. [01:18:54] I'm Jared. [01:18:58] you've been listening to an audio wall original produced by byron mccoy [01:19:26] For more programs like this, visit audiowool.co.