Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 84: CONVERSATIONAL GRECO-ROMAN (FEBRUARY 27TH, 2026)
Aired: 2026-03-13
Duration: 01:28:43


=== War For Oil Intro (04:47) ===

[00:00:02]  this is an audio world original it's war for oil war for oil
[00:00:34]  Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast louder with Crowder.
[00:00:39]  My name's Byron.
[00:00:40]  Across from me, still no one.
[00:00:43]  Another lonely week.
[00:00:44]  Dennis is in Japan.
[00:00:47]  We miss him very much.
[00:00:50]  But our lone star brother holding it down in Occupy Texas.
[00:00:53]  Of course, it's the Theo Vaughan of the left.
[00:00:56]  It's Jared.
[00:00:57]  That's right, y'all.
[00:00:58]  You know, I'm just talking about, you know, being nice and cool.
[00:01:02]  And if you're going to come to my house and try to spook me, just be nice and cool yourself, man.
[00:01:06]  We don't got to get into no kind of weird stuff.
[00:01:10]  You know, let's shake hands.
[00:01:12]  Great.
[00:01:13]  In a time where everyone's attention is on mogmaxing, hyper-fixating on the words of an artificially high-tee young drug addict who is basically a New York 7, Stephen Crowder and his crew have been spiking their cortisol, ignoring their busted facial width to height ratio by cope selling the current state of geopolitics we found ourselves in.
[00:01:37]  Folks were at war.
[00:01:39]  But in this special Good Morning Mug Club episode that we'll be covering today, we're not quite there yet.
[00:01:45]  Friday, February 27th, 2026.
[00:01:48]  Iran war imminent?
[00:01:50]  Negotiations breakdown and citizens told to leave today.
[00:01:54]  That's where we are at.
[00:01:57]  Glad to be with you.
[00:01:58]  Hey, you guys know Friday is usually just for OG Mug Club Rumble Premium members, but it's a special Friday today because God only knows if this weekend some things pop off with Iran.
[00:02:09]  So we want to go wide and discuss this with you today because there's a lot of misinformation out there.
[00:02:15]  And I think we need to frame in this conversation if we're looking at a potential large-scale conflict.
[00:02:21]  Got to make sure folks know his little comedy show is the authority on this Middle East conflict.
[00:02:27]  We got to get ahead of that, I guess.
[00:02:29]  Also, not really the most impressive prediction.
[00:02:32]  I told my parents, I was like, I think we're probably going to war this weekend.
[00:02:36]  Yeah, it kind of seemed like that was the overall driving narrative of last week from basically everything that I listened to.
[00:02:43]  It's like, don't look behind the curtain.
[00:02:45]  We are sending warships to you.
[00:02:48]  We're going to lie about all the negotiations we're doing.
[00:02:51]  We're going to say that things are progressing, but then publicly and on pretty much all news outlets say, I don't like it.
[00:02:57]  I don't like the way that they're talking to us.
[00:02:59]  And they're like, well, wait.
[00:03:02]  You know what they don't like, folks?
[00:03:04]  They don't like our freedom.
[00:03:06]  We don't give up our freedom.
[00:03:09]  We're going to transfer our freedom from the left hand to our right hand.
[00:03:12]  We're going to give it to them.
[00:03:14]  We're going to give them a little bit of our freedom.
[00:03:16]  Just a little bit.
[00:03:18]  Just too hand, folks.
[00:03:20]  Also.
[00:03:21]  Also, a friend of the show, Rachel Wilson, was on Joe Rogan yesterday.
[00:03:24]  I think she just became the preeminent voice on the true history of suffrage of the suffragettes of feminism.
[00:03:32]  And I highly recommend you go watch it.
[00:03:34]  The Wilson family.
[00:03:36]  Cool.
[00:03:36]  Suffer royalty.
[00:03:38]  I can't stand these fucking guys.
[00:03:40]  But for the most part, it's always been kind of Andrew talking, which makes sense as he is the man.
[00:03:45]  Big time.
[00:03:46]  Yeah.
[00:03:46]  When he's not talking, he is quote-unquote doing the licking sniz.
[00:03:52]  And when he's not looking sniz, he's defending how it's fine if his wife has three baby daddies.
[00:04:00]  And that's traditional.
[00:04:02]  And he also likes smoking cigars.
[00:04:03]  Big inhaling guy.
[00:04:04]  I think that's why him and Steven get along so well.
[00:04:06]  They did that ash.
[00:04:07]  They got the Humidor, the Humidor brothers.
[00:04:10]  They're doing their little Latino accents at each other.
[00:04:15]  You know?
[00:04:16]  Yeah, and then I says, and then I says to my ex-wife, I says, you touch the dog's ass, honey.
[00:04:23]  Okay, but lately, though, Rachel.
[00:04:26]  Arriba!
[00:04:27]  All right, so Rachel's been stepping into the Coliseum a lot more lately.
[00:04:31]  This time, well, usually when she gets called out on shows like the Whatever podcast or Pierce Morgan, I think she made an appearance as well.
[00:04:38]  When folks call out the inconsistencies in Andrew Wilson's worldview, she steps up to defend him.
[00:04:45]  And this time, she's stepping in for financial reasons, and we'll get into that.

=== Rachel Wilson On Rogan (03:06) ===

[00:04:49]  I think we were all kind of watching.
[00:04:51]  You were trying to have a vacation with your family.
[00:04:54]  We were watching that great debate with Andrew Wilson and Kyla Turner on the Whatever podcast.
[00:04:58]  It ended up being like five hours long.
[00:05:00]  It was pretty great.
[00:05:02]  Made my run really easy that day.
[00:05:04]  So if you want to see Andrew Squirm, I recommend going and checking out the VOD of that.
[00:05:10]  But the big topic of today, and we also have a question for the comments here.
[00:05:15]  Quick question.
[00:05:18]  Is no, I'm not going to get into whether we should start bombing Iran, but is Iran a bad country or is it like the worst country?
[00:05:27]  Yeah, those are the only options.
[00:05:28]  Yeah.
[00:05:29]  You let me know.
[00:05:30]  On a scale from one to Iran, how bad is Iran?
[00:05:35]  Doesn't mean that we need to waste our firepower.
[00:05:37]  Just to be clear, we'll talk about that.
[00:05:38]  It'll be, you know, the favorite word of the left.
[00:05:41]  Nuanced, which usually just means you're a big puss and you don't actually want to take a stand.
[00:05:45]  But there are a few different facets to discuss.
[00:05:47]  Webster's dictionary defines nuance as big puss.
[00:05:52]  Yeah, if you look it up, it's got Steven's face right next to it.
[00:05:56]  Come on now.
[00:05:57]  That's not fair.
[00:05:58]  I just did three chops to my crotch.
[00:06:03]  Oh, that's kind of cool.
[00:06:05]  You're in the ring standing up on the ropes over there.
[00:06:08]  Wow.
[00:06:09]  You know, nuance is for pusses.
[00:06:11]  I hope that nuance becomes the new chain ganging gaslighting.
[00:06:15]  He does love a word of the day.
[00:06:16]  Do you think he had a word of the day calendar?
[00:06:18]  Is that what's going on here?
[00:06:20]  From 2023 that he didn't open up.
[00:06:22]  It's kind of the same thing, whatever.
[00:06:24]  Well, not much has changed in terms of words other than that was the rationale for sure.
[00:06:28]  What's the word of the year this year?
[00:06:30]  Slop.
[00:06:31]  Rage bait.
[00:06:32]  Vibe coding.
[00:06:33]  Those are all Marion Webster Oxford and Collins dictionaries.
[00:06:37]  Vibe coding.
[00:06:38]  Vibe coding is Collins Dictionary's word of the year.
[00:06:42]  Yeah.
[00:06:43]  What is that?
[00:06:44]  What is vibe coding?
[00:06:46]  Oh, it's when you use AI to code and you don't really know how to code, you just kind of say what you want it to do and adjust it.
[00:06:52]  I want this part when you click it to kind of stink a little bit.
[00:06:56]  Yeah, I want mostly my cursor to have sparkles and glitter as you move it around the screen.
[00:07:01]  My band from, I don't know, 14, 15 years old.
[00:07:05]  We had a website, and if you clicked on like who are the members of the band or whatever, it would make your computer open up the CD drive.
[00:07:13]  See, that's cool.
[00:07:14]  You're hackers.
[00:07:15]  Hackers.
[00:07:16]  Hack the planet, baby.
[00:07:17]  Very exciting.
[00:07:18]  The Iran stuff.
[00:07:19]  Clearly, Steven is going to do some hedging so he can after the conflict.
[00:07:24]  At this point, he didn't know if it was going to happen or not, but he wants wiggle room to have an opinion later, I think, is what we're getting at.
[00:07:32]  Yeah, he needs somebody else to tell him how to feel about it first.
[00:07:35]  Yeah, he's not going to have a firm stance on it until it happens.
[00:07:38]  Right.
[00:07:38]  Then you can kind of gauge what your audience or desired audience says, and then you can make those adjustments when it happens.
[00:07:44]  But speaking of the audience, I did drop into the comments to see the answer to his question of the day.
[00:07:51]  Surprisingly, none of this has to do with Iran.
[00:07:54]  Most of it has to do with feminism.

=== Hedging The Iran Conflict (07:47) ===

[00:07:56]  Oh, cool.
[00:07:56]  Barky624 says, Feminism is the original sin in the garden and the greatest evil of our lifetime.
[00:08:03]  It's truly disgusting and this is destroying Western civilization.
[00:08:06]  That's the top comment here.
[00:08:08]  Celine Scryer says, I am a woman and I hate feminism.
[00:08:13]  I want so bad to just be a stay-at-home wife.
[00:08:16]  Is it feminism or is it Iran?
[00:08:18]  Seems like people mostly care about feminism.
[00:08:21]  Women are doing worse than Iran is.
[00:08:26]  Seems like right now, the state of feminism and women in general.
[00:08:31]  Because this person says, oh, this is actually pretty sad.
[00:08:35]  Feminism is the cancer in Western society and must be excised.
[00:08:40]  So we got to cut it out.
[00:08:41]  I don't know about that, but 92% of people who have tingling or numbness in hands or feet are missing the warning signs of decay.
[00:08:50]  Love that.
[00:08:52]  You can tell I'm on Rumble, right?
[00:08:54]  Yeah.
[00:08:55]  I know exactly where we are.
[00:08:57]  Men could be men.
[00:09:00]  So it's a heavy, important.
[00:09:01]  And we could get rid of women all together.
[00:09:09]  Yeah.
[00:09:10]  Get the soul clap.
[00:09:12]  Okay, all of the men are clapping hard in ones and threes for sure.
[00:09:16]  Or are they twos and four types?
[00:09:17]  I don't know.
[00:09:18]  Oh, you know.
[00:09:20]  Wherever.
[00:09:21]  Important heavy day.
[00:09:23]  So let's get into it.
[00:09:24]  Look, I'll just let you guys know.
[00:09:26]  I had a very bizarre, I think it happened because I took some ibuprofen before this on an empty stomach.
[00:09:31]  A shooting gas pain where I was like, I don't know if I'm able to do the show.
[00:09:36]  And then, by the way, Friday, Saturday, March 20th, 21st, Mr. Josh Firestein was here.
[00:09:42]  He said, you know what?
[00:09:42]  You have to do the wind pose.
[00:09:45]  That's not what I leave.
[00:09:46]  And so I got on the floor and I did this pose that apparently helps with digestion.
[00:09:50]  But it resembles as though you are presenting yourself.
[00:09:52]  Right.
[00:09:52]  And noodles were populated right in to fold you.
[00:09:57]  You know, you just walked in and went, okay.
[00:10:05]  First, I think it's interesting.
[00:10:07]  Stephen has gas pain attributed to ibuprofen.
[00:10:11]  This was after the State of the Union drinking game night, which we had quite the night.
[00:10:15]  Thank you, Jared, for staying as long as you did.
[00:10:17]  I know you had a busy night, but we did live stream that, and it is going to be available, if not right now, very soon at Shrug.club.
[00:10:25]  Our, I guess, watch party of the State of the Union.
[00:10:28]  It was not fun, but we had a good time, I guess.
[00:10:31]  Yeah, we had fun with the folks who showed up.
[00:10:34]  Yeah.
[00:10:34]  Quite a few.
[00:10:35]  It was really fun to hang out.
[00:10:36]  I didn't know that ibuprofen made you have gas pain so bad that you would have to not do the show.
[00:10:42]  And this is the guy who tells his staff that they have to come in during winter weather and pandemics.
[00:10:47]  Yeah, but he had the farts.
[00:10:49]  He's burping and farting because he had too much pills after he was drinking.
[00:10:53]  But then he brings in Josh by just saying, Friday and Saturday, March 20th and 21st.
[00:10:58]  And doesn't say where it just says which.
[00:11:03]  I'm just doing the thing, man.
[00:11:05]  I'm sure that there's wearing sunglasses.
[00:11:08]  Maybe he's just going through the motions.
[00:11:09]  He's not wearing sunglasses, but I'm sure he had an overlay that stated where, but it was very quick.
[00:11:15]  And I think my opinion on Josh actually shifts a little bit in this episode.
[00:11:19]  I don't know if he gave Stephen the advice to do with the wind posture, as mentioned.
[00:11:25]  I think Stephen just wrote this in his script.
[00:11:28]  But are you familiar with the wind posture?
[00:11:30]  No.
[00:11:30]  The therapeutic yoga pose.
[00:11:32]  Basically, you just lay on your back and put your knees up to your chest and put your arms around your chest.
[00:11:36]  That's all.
[00:11:37]  Fetal position.
[00:11:38]  On your back.
[00:11:39]  Go baby modes.
[00:11:40]  It's just supposed to put a little bit of pressure on your abdomen.
[00:11:44]  You just kind of hug your knees and stretch your back and hips.
[00:11:46]  Get that fart out.
[00:11:48]  is not certainly presenting yourself, right?
[00:11:51]  Oh, man.
[00:11:51]  This looks like you're just...
[00:11:53]  They call it the win position because you're breaking the win position.
[00:11:56]  Yeah.
[00:11:56]  Yeah, it's supposed to.
[00:11:57]  Wham.
[00:11:58]  Okay, ate indigestion and moved a little bit of gas.
[00:12:01]  But for Steven to say that this is a sexual position that Noodles walked in on is kind of odd, right?
[00:12:08]  How is Steven having sex?
[00:12:10]  Missionary only.
[00:12:12]  Well, but this is like the opposite of it's not the opposite of missionary, but it's a curled up in a ball saying no to missionary position, right?
[00:12:19]  This is the fart position.
[00:12:20]  Yeah.
[00:12:21]  I'm going to get those farts out of you.
[00:12:24]  Well, also, the culture at this strip mall studio is still pretty bad.
[00:12:28]  If Noodles is coming in and finding Steven on the floor, I guess nervous that he is in a sexual position trying to release gas.
[00:12:35]  I don't know.
[00:12:36]  Oh, yeah.
[00:12:38]  I read about what happened here before I took the job.
[00:12:41]  Noodles is fun.
[00:12:42]  How do you do it?
[00:12:43]  Yeah, I read it all.
[00:12:44]  He's getting his phone out to film him.
[00:12:47]  This is a payday for me, right?
[00:12:48]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:12:49]  I'm covering all the bases.
[00:12:51]  I'm covering the bases all the time, Steve.
[00:12:55]  We got to get one of these jobs.
[00:12:57]  Too bad they know who we are.
[00:12:58]  So let's get into it for real.
[00:13:01]  But not before we take a second to thank some folks who are supporting us over at Shrug.club.
[00:13:05]  Oh!
[00:13:06]  Shrug Nation.
[00:13:07]  You gotta do the Shrug Tuisha.
[00:13:10]  That, of course, is the home for all things too hot for the RSS feed.
[00:13:13]  Double salutes, Shrug Club exclusives, pictures of me in the wind position.
[00:13:18]  All for free.
[00:13:19]  Always will be.
[00:13:20]  But some folks choose to support us by giving us dollars.
[00:13:25]  We're doing that one yoga where you got your feet up in the air and you're kicking me up into the air.
[00:13:30]  I'm doing a backflip and then standing on your feet.
[00:13:32]  A circus, maybe?
[00:13:34]  Like when they're like really good at yoga, they're like doing these like high-focused colours.
[00:13:37]  Oh, like couples yoga where they kind of like roll around on each other and like, yeah.
[00:13:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:13:42]  That's kind of cool.
[00:13:43]  We are that definitely is like Cirque du Soleil.
[00:13:46]  That's what we're doing there.
[00:13:47]  Jared and I both are doing that.
[00:13:49]  Yeah.
[00:13:50]  We're getting good at it.
[00:13:51]  Some folks, like I said, choose to support us financially.
[00:13:53]  People like Jennifer M. Jennifer?
[00:13:56]  M?
[00:13:57]  More like, Jennifer, thank you.
[00:14:00]  You piece of shit.
[00:14:01]  You're appreciated.
[00:14:03]  And also, I do want to point out Brian A.
[00:14:06]  A lot of people doing this and we appreciate it very much.
[00:14:09]  Upped their membership and are now a chowdhead.
[00:14:13]  Hell yeah, Brian A. Thank you for joining Chowder Nation.
[00:14:17]  Here's another big old bull brother.
[00:14:20]  Shitbag hack.
[00:14:21]  Really appreciate you.
[00:14:22]  Mugs are headed to the shop right now and they'll be headed out to all chowdhead folks very soon.
[00:14:28]  So keep your eyes on your Patreon because I'm going to be confirming your address before those.
[00:14:32]  Links to mugs and shirts are in the podcast description.
[00:14:36]  I don't say that enough.
[00:14:37]  I also, I have an embroidery machine that got delivered over the weekend.
[00:14:42]  Oh, yeah.
[00:14:42]  So more hats are going to be coming soon.
[00:14:44]  I'm doing them in-house.
[00:14:46]  Really dumb ones.
[00:14:47]  So look forward to that.
[00:14:49]  A big old bowl of chowder, maybe.
[00:14:51]  A small big bowl of chowder on the middle of a hat.
[00:14:53]  A small big old bowl of chowder.
[00:14:55]  Oh, yeah.
[00:14:56]  If you like what we're doing and want to help us, you can do so by supporting us there.
[00:15:02]  And that helps everyone because, of course, I don't mention this enough.
[00:15:06]  Shrug.club is free.
[00:15:07]  All of our bonus content is free for you there.
[00:15:10]  But it's the support that we get from the paying members that keep us improving, doing this better, and eventually doing this full-time, you know?
[00:15:18]  Like, I quit my dang job to focus on this more, but we could actually like have more shows.
[00:15:24]  Could be more than just one once a week, plus the bonus streams.
[00:15:28]  So you never know.
[00:15:30]  But I do know that if you join Shrug Nation or become a Shrug Clubber or become a piece of shit.
[00:15:38]  That's going to be very helpful to us.
[00:15:40]  Thank you.
[00:15:41]  You.
[00:15:42]  All right.

=== Supporting Shrug Club Free (15:12) ===

[00:15:43]  Christian Stewart.
[00:15:45]  Kristen, not Kirsten.
[00:15:46]  They have a thing about that.
[00:15:47]  Kristen Stewart gave her take on, I think, the immigrants.
[00:15:55]  Something about Los Angeles.
[00:15:57]  Stefan, huge fan of Kristen, as am I.
[00:16:00]  I saw all the Twilight films with my friend Miranda in theater.
[00:16:04]  It's fun.
[00:16:05]  They're fun movies.
[00:16:06]  They're stupid and kind of hot.
[00:16:09]  What?
[00:16:09]  Come on.
[00:16:10]  I had this whole thought for some reason.
[00:16:12]  I don't know why.
[00:16:13]  I just interconnected all of those movies with the Hunger Games movies.
[00:16:18]  Sure.
[00:16:18]  Jennifer Lawrence.
[00:16:19]  Yeah, they're just in my head.
[00:16:21]  They're all in the same universe.
[00:16:22]  Like that universe also has vampire and werewolf.
[00:16:27]  They should alien versus Predator, Twilight, and the Hunger Games.
[00:16:32]  It would make sense to me.
[00:16:33]  I would watch that.
[00:16:35]  Yeah.
[00:16:35]  But yeah, post-Twilight, Kristen has only gotten better, in my opinion.
[00:16:39]  Certain women, personal shopper, Crimes of the Future, Love Lives Bleeding.
[00:16:44]  Love Lives Bleeding was.
[00:16:46]  It rips.
[00:16:47]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:16:48]  Excellent.
[00:16:48]  I should put it on Letterboxd right now.
[00:16:51]  You're going to.
[00:16:52]  Okay.
[00:16:53]  There he goes.
[00:16:54]  Five stars.
[00:16:55]  Wow.
[00:16:56]  That's miles beyond where Steph.
[00:16:58]  It's Steph, right?
[00:16:59]  What is that?
[00:17:00]  Stephan?
[00:17:00]  Stephan.
[00:17:01]  Crowder?
[00:17:03]  Creoles.
[00:17:04]  It's way beyond his understanding of Kristen Stewart, but he really wants to discuss the answer to a question that was given to her on a red carpet of architectural digest design making a difference celebration.
[00:17:17]  That's what we're talking about.
[00:17:19]  What does she know about houses?
[00:17:22]  I watched it three times.
[00:17:25]  I still don't know what she's trying to say, but I think that's because she's retarded.
[00:17:31]  Let's watch.
[00:17:32]  Immigrants.
[00:17:34]  I can't stand immigrants.
[00:17:40]  I don't have a hand in making me who I am, which is so meaningless in the face of people's lives being completely unearthed, uprooted, destroyed.
[00:17:50]  This is not who we are.
[00:17:51]  So who are you wearing?
[00:17:52]  Where I'm from, I don't identify with that right now.
[00:17:56]  And so I definitely am dying every day thinking, so do we make movies about this?
[00:18:02]  Do we throw all of our money at it?
[00:18:04]  Do we stop buying burgers in the daytime?
[00:18:06]  What do we do about this?
[00:18:08]  Like, I can't fathom that it's happening until it doesn't happen.
[00:18:14]  It's like Los Angeles doesn't exist without all of us.
[00:18:21]  What?
[00:18:22]  Yeah.
[00:18:23]  I mean, it's very broad and it's sort of ethereal, but if you're like in tune with the conversation, not hard to understand.
[00:18:31]  Yeah, she's asking a big question about one, she's answering the question, what would break your heart if it was suddenly missing from LA?
[00:18:38]  I think saying immigrants is a totally fine, reasonable thing because it is immigrants and those major cities being melting pots that make them so great, right?
[00:18:48]  And I guess I didn't hear that intro.
[00:18:50]  Well, because Stephen kind of jumbled it and then said, yeah, yeah.
[00:18:54]  He starts the clip and then asks the question.
[00:18:57]  Okay, sure.
[00:18:57]  Yeah, it kind of fucks his whole point by not stating that that was the question.
[00:19:03]  But I mean, that's a totally fine, reasonable thing to say.
[00:19:06]  Sure, she, I mean, she's, she's said this herself, first of all, a million times.
[00:19:10]  She's terrible when put on the spot.
[00:19:12]  You've seen her on like Stephen Colbert promoting movies.
[00:19:16]  She's very much not a good public speaker.
[00:19:19]  And that doesn't mean that she's a bad actor, right?
[00:19:22]  Yeah, you can get a movie made if you're bad at it.
[00:19:26]  You can have social anxiety and still be good at jobs in media, right?
[00:19:30]  Yeah, you just like see yourself do it and be like, oh, here's what I should do better.
[00:19:35]  She said, I can't stand the idea of dismantling of the culture that did have a hand in making me who I am, which when you slow it down, that makes sense.
[00:19:44]  Which is so meaningless in the face of people's lives being completely up earthed, uprooted, and destroyed.
[00:19:50]  Again, she's saying that for me to make this about myself is wrong, meaningless in the face of other people's lives getting destroyed because her life is fine.
[00:19:59]  She's a very successful, wealthy actor living in Los Angeles.
[00:20:03]  That's all she's saying.
[00:20:05]  And then the question that really stumps Stephen, though, I'm sure that you're well aware that this is going to be his focus.
[00:20:10]  And it was the focus of a lot of people's news coverage of this is saying, I don't know, what do we do about this?
[00:20:16]  Do we make movies about it?
[00:20:17]  Do we throw money at it?
[00:20:18]  Do we stop buying burgers in the daytime?
[00:20:21]  Yeah.
[00:20:21]  It's not, so you're not calling for like a literal boycott of buying burgers in the morning or in the daytime, right?
[00:20:27]  Yeah.
[00:20:28]  And I mean, even if she were, it's like, this is like a, you know, it's like a, it's like a call out to like a sort of like a general strike.
[00:20:35]  It's just sort of like an allusion to like, not, we're boycotting.
[00:20:39]  We're ceasing payment to oppressive forces.
[00:20:42]  But these are broad ideas, right?
[00:20:44]  They're just, it's throwing out broad ideas.
[00:20:46]  Like, I don't know what do we do about this?
[00:20:48]  What do we do?
[00:20:49]  Yeah.
[00:20:49]  Do we make art about it?
[00:20:50]  Do we stop purchasing?
[00:20:52]  You know, do we go to work?
[00:20:54]  Should we stop going to work?
[00:20:55]  She just kind of feels helpless in where we're at.
[00:20:58]  These are absurd ideas, specifically the burger one, you know, right?
[00:21:02]  Like, America's favorite food is burger.
[00:21:05]  America runs on burger.
[00:21:07]  Yeah.
[00:21:09]  All right.
[00:21:09]  Come on.
[00:21:13]  So I guess someone else could interpret this so that it makes sense.
[00:21:16]  Architectural digest, they summarized her comments.
[00:21:19]  Kristen Stewart reflected, reflects on the heart of the city, the culture and communities that shape it, and reminds us what makes LA truly irreplaceable.
[00:21:28]  What?
[00:21:28]  Wait, I don't.
[00:21:29]  Okay.
[00:21:30]  Can anyone give me just like a trail of breadcrumbs?
[00:21:34]  Burgers in the daytime?
[00:21:36]  Why would you stop buying burgers in the daytime?
[00:21:38]  What does that have to do with deporting illegal aliens?
[00:21:41]  Does she mean that if we stop buying burgers in.
[00:21:45]  I still don't have an answer.
[00:21:46]  Like, I'm trying.
[00:21:48]  Does anyone understand it?
[00:21:49]  I'm not going to make a habit of diagnosing people with autism on this podcast.
[00:21:55]  But if you're hyper-fixated on what she meant by, you know, burgers in the daytime, you might want to talk to her.
[00:22:02]  She's going to.
[00:22:04]  What are you going to do with the burgers?
[00:22:11]  You know why the burgers are in the day.
[00:22:12]  What was going to happen to the burgers?
[00:22:14]  We're just trying to eat the burgers.
[00:22:15]  And all of a sudden, there's a surplus of burgers.
[00:22:17]  What are they going to make the burger price go down because there's so many burgers that are in the daytime?
[00:22:20]  And at nighttime, are they going to make the burgers go up?
[00:22:22]  Are we going to do search pricing on the burgers?
[00:22:23]  What's going to happen in there?
[00:22:25]  Josh, Gerald, please.
[00:22:28]  And he goes, oh.
[00:22:30]  All right.
[00:22:30]  Sorry.
[00:22:31]  Sorry.
[00:22:32]  Well, right?
[00:22:32]  We're done talking about that.
[00:22:33]  We're moving forward.
[00:22:35]  Yeah.
[00:22:35]  Do we throw all of our money at it?
[00:22:37]  Do we make a movie?
[00:22:38]  Does she mean, does she mean to say, do rich people throw all their money at me to make a movie so that someone will make a movie with me again?
[00:22:46]  Well, I don't understand.
[00:22:47]  I really don't.
[00:22:49]  It's one of those, like, I. Also, it still exists if you're gone.
[00:22:52]  That's how, you know, Earth works.
[00:22:54]  Great work, Josh.
[00:22:55]  That is how Earth works.
[00:22:57]  The question was, we have a problem and what do we do about it?
[00:23:01]  Is what Kristen is saying.
[00:23:03]  Should we make a painting?
[00:23:05]  Should we make a freedom burger?
[00:23:07]  And I think that we should do a painting.
[00:23:10]  A freedom burger is actually pretty cool.
[00:23:13]  Not a bad idea.
[00:23:14]  Really throwing it back.
[00:23:15]  It was an interesting time for stupid 9-11.
[00:23:19]  Now that dumb 9-11 too.
[00:23:21]  Genuine, like none of the people who were involved with the first 9-11 came back for the sequel.
[00:23:27]  This studio bought the rights and they're like, we're doing it again.
[00:23:30]  Let's reboot.
[00:23:31]  Let's reboot.
[00:23:32]  This time we have Jonathan Majors.
[00:23:34]  Oh, cool.
[00:23:35]  As George Bush.
[00:23:37]  I guess we'll really piss him off, says Ben Shapiro.
[00:23:40]  Yeah.
[00:23:40]  I love it.
[00:23:41]  I'm going to hate that.
[00:23:42]  What's the lady from The Mandalorian?
[00:23:45]  Gina Carino or whatever.
[00:23:46]  Yeah, Johnny Carninos.
[00:23:50]  She comes.
[00:23:51]  We're just dropping so many inside references.
[00:23:53]  Ben Shapiro's studio, Daily Wire, is doing a movie, Jonathan Majors, who, of course, got canceled after assaulting his partner, right?
[00:23:59]  Yes.
[00:23:59]  And Gina Carino is an anti-vaxxer who got canceled from Hollywood, removed from the Star Wars franchise on Disney Plus because of her now.
[00:24:06]  They brought her back too because that's apparently profitable.
[00:24:10]  And Daily Wire is doing great financial.
[00:24:11]  Wait, wait a second.
[00:24:13]  It seems like maybe this.
[00:24:16]  Didn't the CEO leave recently?
[00:24:20]  He sure did after spending $100 million on the Pendragon cycle.
[00:24:25]  Damn it.
[00:24:25]  Things are fine over there.
[00:24:26]  And Steven's not even in it.
[00:24:28]  But all that aside, I think that these guys don't have a good understanding.
[00:24:32]  Well, they don't have a good understanding of Hollywood.
[00:24:34]  They don't care about culture and they certainly don't know anything about Kristen Stewart.
[00:24:37]  They just think of her as the Twilight person, right?
[00:24:40]  And are moving on.
[00:24:41]  They're not accounting for the fact that Kristen is a talented actor as well as director, wrote and directed a film that came out last year called The Chronology of Water, which got, I think, a standing ovation at Con where it premiered.
[00:24:54]  Like, she's doing pretty good stuff.
[00:24:56]  Well, it's not a Disney movie with a 16-year-old love interest.
[00:25:01]  Great point.
[00:25:01]  I just don't like how dismissive they are of things that they don't quite understand.
[00:25:05]  Everything.
[00:25:06]  Yeah, everything, period.
[00:25:08]  All the time.
[00:25:09]  But certainly the burger stuff's done, right?
[00:25:11]  Oh, I don't know, man.
[00:25:12]  It was a big week for burgers in America.
[00:25:15]  Usually I'm able to sort of, okay, let me walk through this logically.
[00:25:18]  And this just shows you: like, here's the thing: these people are generally good looking.
[00:25:24]  Billy Ray Sire's haircut not included here.
[00:25:26]  Right.
[00:25:27]  They're good looking.
[00:25:28]  They can't take credit for God's work.
[00:25:30]  They're good at reciting lines.
[00:25:32]  They have never, ever had to go through the portion of life that you had to navigate where they learned new things and had to think about them critically.
[00:25:42]  And I know that's cliché for people to say, shut up and act, shut up, and sing.
[00:25:47]  It's different from someone who maybe is a writer.
[00:25:49]  It's different for somebody who maybe is a historian.
[00:25:53]  It's different for someone who maybe is a celebrity who created a really big business or is an investor.
[00:25:58]  Someone like her has nothing to offer the world other than reading lines that somebody else wrote.
[00:26:06]  That's why we don't want your opinions.
[00:26:09]  Truthfully, your mechanic is more qualified to give you opinions on anything worldly than Kristen Stewart.
[00:26:17]  Yeah.
[00:26:18]  No, I guess I disagree.
[00:26:20]  I don't know.
[00:26:20]  Like, I'm not going to go too much to bat, right?
[00:26:23]  Because, like, clearly a privilege.
[00:26:25]  It's like a jealousy thing.
[00:26:26]  I don't know because he's like not in Hollywood and now he's upset about.
[00:26:31]  Of course, he did.
[00:26:32]  He's another fail guy, but then she's not the biggest actor in the world.
[00:26:36]  No.
[00:26:37]  And there was a while, maybe 18 years ago, where she was a household name.
[00:26:44]  And now her career is done like a much more like she's done much more indie stuff.
[00:26:50]  Like an intentional way.
[00:26:52]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:52]  I feel like she's like, she did such an enormous career-altering set of movies with Twilight that basically paid for any amount of thing that she would probably want to do for the rest of her life.
[00:27:07]  And she said, well, if I can do whatever the fuck I want to do, and it's like indie mumblecore or like an exciting queer action film, like she can do that and like be successful in that.
[00:27:23]  That's like, that's, this isn't your audience, but she works more than you do, you frail man.
[00:27:30]  Look at her IMDb.
[00:27:31]  Look at how much money her movies have made.
[00:27:33]  If that's what you need, like if you're, if you're one of these, like, my IQ is my wallet type of dip shits, like Steven is, that's enough to be like, okay, well, certainly she's probably doing better than he is financially, which means she's smarter than him, no matter how you cut it.
[00:27:52]  But she's a woman, I guess.
[00:27:54]  And a queer woman and comes from Hollywood and a little bit of privilege.
[00:27:58]  I think she grew up with a family who was in the industry, but it wasn't anything that would have put her too far ahead of anyone else in an epitism way.
[00:28:06]  Like, I think her parents were a stage manager, a television producer, a script supervisor was her mom.
[00:28:12]  All that aside, though, I think that- But also who gives a shit?
[00:28:15]  Exactly.
[00:28:15]  Exactly.
[00:28:16]  For him to, yeah, don't focus on this.
[00:28:19]  It doesn't matter to you.
[00:28:20]  It's an it was a comment during during, what was it again?
[00:28:24]  Architectural digests.
[00:28:26]  Modern Housely Monthly.
[00:28:29]  Design and Making a Difference celebration.
[00:28:31]  Cool.
[00:28:31]  Well, she was featured.
[00:28:32]  She was featured in the magazine.
[00:28:34]  But I think you're right to point out that Steven may just be jealous still about the elites in Hollywood who control if I can or can't be famous, right?
[00:28:46]  I think that that's what he's saying.
[00:28:49]  And he's trying to say that mechanics have more pull in terms of, you know, living life and being able to face ideas and critically evaluate them.
[00:29:00]  which is super dismissive of someone who's making art that it's actually word of the day nuanced, right?
[00:29:06]  Like I think there's also something I think to be said in there about like, yeah, what like the nuance of like, like what has happened to the value of entertainment, like since he started even doing his show.
[00:29:20]  Can he like not even recognize that?
[00:29:22]  Hmm.
[00:29:23]  Yeah.
[00:29:23]  People are having to like go to like his medium to get things done now, right?
[00:29:29]  And so it's like, yeah, you get like a million listeners per episode, but Kristen Stewart makes like an indie film that she writes and directs or whatever.
[00:29:40]  The entertainment in general had to like become self-financed and self-worked out.
[00:29:45]  And like you're putting more on the line to like produce something.
[00:29:50]  We know this as like creatives ourselves and having, you know, like my band's last record cycle and completely trying to self-finance this thing and make music videos like on our own and all this stuff.
[00:30:01]  It's hard and expensive.
[00:30:02]  It's very hard and very expensive and very time consuming.
[00:30:05]  And like not only am I like the prop master, but I'm also playing drums in the thing.
[00:30:10]  And like there's just so much that you're doing.
[00:30:12]  Everyone has to wear so many hats.
[00:30:14]  And it's like, why wouldn't he recognize this like as someone who ostensibly does it himself?
[00:30:22]  But I'm, and maybe he's like disconnected from his own work.
[00:30:24]  Maybe we're giving him too much credit on like what he's actually doing to his show produced.
[00:30:30]  He works in media.
[00:30:31]  So why is he being so critical of people who, I mean, he works in political media, but of course he also says he's a comedian.
[00:30:38]  So are you saying as a comedian?
[00:30:40]  I think you would disagree with that.
[00:30:41]  Are you saying that mechanics have more of a real world importance and pull in terms of politics than a comedian or a YouTuber like he is?
[00:30:50]  I think it's silly.
[00:30:51]  It's a silly thing to say.
[00:30:52]  People creating art have a valid perspective.

=== Giving Too Much Credit (07:39) ===

[00:30:56]  Yeah, just it just makes a vampire or whatever.
[00:30:59]  Sparkle sparkle.
[00:31:01]  Okay, guys.
[00:31:02]  It's just this copy and paste mentality of like, you can't see beyond your nose.
[00:31:08]  You need somebody else's opinion to like fill your mouth.
[00:31:11]  And it might as well be with a burger.
[00:31:14]  Big Get Burger.
[00:31:15]  The only reason that that woman is a role model to anyone or at any point as she was during Twilight is because she's on screen.
[00:31:22]  We need to fundamentally change that culture because, and I'm not saying that retards can't be role models.
[00:31:28]  That's not what I'm saying.
[00:31:28]  Right.
[00:31:29]  I'm just saying that she can't.
[00:31:30]  Just specific ones.
[00:31:32]  This specific one.
[00:31:33]  Exactly.
[00:31:33]  And by the way, if you needed any proof, it's not that her opinion is incorrect.
[00:31:36]  It's that she said we wanted to get rid of immigrants.
[00:31:38]  Is anybody making that argument right now that we want to get rid of all immigrants?
[00:31:42]  No, I think it's the ones that are here illegally and the rapists and murderers and people in prison.
[00:31:45]  Yeah, so you're a moron.
[00:31:46]  But even then, let's assume that we know that she's trying to do the wordplay.
[00:31:50]  How do you get to not buying burgers in the daytime?
[00:31:52]  And anyone doesn't make any sense.
[00:31:53]  Well, she's lying and she's trying to come up with these things as she's going because she is lying.
[00:31:56]  The question was, what is one thing that you couldn't live without if LA if it was removed from LA?
[00:32:01]  And the real answer for her is Jews.
[00:32:03]  Okay, so just circling the fucking toilet.
[00:32:07]  Poor guy.
[00:32:08]  Just all the time, man.
[00:32:11]  Back up a little bit to Gerald's got Champkind energy.
[00:32:16]  What is that?
[00:32:17]  You remember Champkind from Anchorman?
[00:32:18]  He's like, well, this is all over, Ron.
[00:32:21]  We got to get an apartment together.
[00:32:24]  I forgot.
[00:32:25]  You had the character played by David Kechner.
[00:32:27]  Yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:32:28]  Steven saying, like, this R-word can't be anyone's role model.
[00:32:35]  The only person who looks up to Steven is Gerald.
[00:32:38]  It does seem that way.
[00:32:39]  A guy who appears to be 15 years older than Stephen.
[00:32:42]  Right.
[00:32:43]  Clearly doing well in his life and is not living in a hotel by the airport.
[00:32:46]  Not at all.
[00:32:47]  But I think it is odd of him to say that we just want to get rid of the illegal immigrants, not the immigrants.
[00:32:52]  But I think that that's been a pretty clear brilliant thing, but fact check.
[00:32:58]  I think that a lot of people have been saying we got to get rid of all Somalis.
[00:33:01]  You know, pretty much anyone who's currently in the asylum process, we got to get rid of them as well.
[00:33:07]  And it's just been this like slippery slope of immigrants are bad.
[00:33:11]  We're not going to do visas for anyone.
[00:33:13]  I think that it is.
[00:33:14]  I think they don't want immigrants.
[00:33:17]  They don't want immigration.
[00:33:19]  No.
[00:33:20]  Yeah.
[00:33:20]  I mean, they're loving it.
[00:33:23]  They're loving that the borders are shut and they don't want anyone new coming in here, mucking up the complexion of Texas.
[00:33:33]  Whammy, great.
[00:33:38]  He's good.
[00:33:38]  He's fine.
[00:33:39]  Guys, folks, he's fine.
[00:33:42]  And Josh, Josh saying that Jews were in Hollywood is kind of a new escalation in his path, right?
[00:33:50]  He's kind of going backwards.
[00:33:52]  He's de-escalating now, I think.
[00:33:54]  You think?
[00:33:54]  Yeah, he already did Hitler cosplay several times.
[00:33:58]  So now he's walking it back and just alluding to the Jews controlling Hollywood.
[00:34:03]  Cool.
[00:34:03]  That makes sense.
[00:34:04]  Yeah.
[00:34:04]  You got to jump the shark first.
[00:34:06]  And then when you drive back by the audience, like waving at them, it seems less of a thing, you know.
[00:34:12]  Just almost got his ass ate by a shark.
[00:34:15]  Instead, he's just eating the ass of Hitler.
[00:34:17]  It is going to be sad once he leaves his job and then realizes he has no prospects anywhere else, right?
[00:34:22]  Yeah, you got Brian Callend.
[00:34:24]  I'm the alleged rapist who got whipped by Steven Crowder in a cow costume.
[00:34:29]  Yeah, the fighter and the kid is not doing very well.
[00:34:32]  That's for sure.
[00:34:32]  Yeah.
[00:34:33]  Not great.
[00:34:34]  Not paying the bills.
[00:34:35]  Jews and you know, leather couches.
[00:34:38]  Yeah.
[00:34:39]  Yeah.
[00:34:39]  I think she got a good start there.
[00:34:41]  Yep.
[00:34:41]  All right.
[00:34:42]  Well, that was rude.
[00:34:43]  No.
[00:34:44]  All right.
[00:34:44]  Okay.
[00:34:45]  So then I think that Steven wrote that whole bit for him and he regretted saying it immediately, implying that Kristen Stewart was on a casting couch, I guess.
[00:34:53]  It's a family show.
[00:34:55]  Family show.
[00:34:56]  That's one for mom and dad, though.
[00:34:58]  Moving on.
[00:34:59]  Rachel Wilson is incredibly well read on the history of feminism.
[00:35:05]  And she just appeared on the Joe Rogan show last night.
[00:35:09]  And you could tell that Joe Rogan was really sitting and he was just captivated because he was hearing some things that he had never really heard before.
[00:35:17]  She was expounding on some of the things that were discussed in her book, which, by the way, I highly recommend it's Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation.
[00:35:25]  I highly recommend it.
[00:35:26]  It's a very short read.
[00:35:27]  You can do the audio book, but it's worth it.
[00:35:29]  It seems like one of those things that's clickbait, but it's not.
[00:35:33]  It's short, though.
[00:35:34]  I think it was like 130 pages.
[00:35:37]  I don't think he read it, right?
[00:35:38]  A novella can listen to it.
[00:35:40]  That's implied.
[00:35:41]  Actually, I don't even.
[00:35:42]  A novella is not even doesn't mean that it's shorter, I don't think, right?
[00:35:46]  A novella is technically shorter than a novel, but how about a novelette?
[00:35:51]  A novel, that's kind of cool.
[00:35:53]  So, a novella is between 17,000 and 40,000 words.
[00:35:57]  I don't know how many how that translates to pages, but either way, Steven knows that his audience is not going to read something for sure.
[00:36:03]  They're going to listen to it, and right, and they're not even going to do that either because they don't listen to him.
[00:36:10]  Speaking of they don't even know what show they're listening to.
[00:36:13]  I was going to say, speaking of, I do want to point out that we have been getting some emails from fans of his show confusing us with him.
[00:36:23]  And I want to read one of them really quick.
[00:36:25]  They may not read handwritten ones, you know.
[00:36:28]  All right, we need a P.O. box.
[00:36:30]  Yeah.
[00:36:30]  Yeah.
[00:36:30]  Lisa, I'm not going to say her full name, said, Please, praying hands emoji, help Erica Kirk with the vicious attacks from the demon Candace.
[00:36:40]  And this is, of course, in response to Candace Owens' new series, The Bride of Charlie, focusing on Erica Kirk and implying that she had a role in his assassination.
[00:36:50]  It goes on.
[00:36:51]  It's unconscionable what is happening to Erica at the hands of that bitch, Candace.
[00:36:58]  That.
[00:36:59]  Sorry.
[00:37:00]  I'm a big fan of your show, and I watch a tremendous amount of the podcast.
[00:37:04]  And you and Tim Poole are the only guys with balls enough to take her down.
[00:37:10]  And I do want to say there's extra spaces, and then there's a space before this period here.
[00:37:15]  Matt Walsh did a good job tonight, but I think the world needs another space, space, some Louder with Crowder criticism.
[00:37:24]  It's like they copied and pasted there.
[00:37:28]  What is the name of the show here?
[00:37:30]  It is Louder with Crowder.
[00:37:31]  And the email here is louderthancrowder at gmail.com.
[00:37:34]  Please help.
[00:37:35]  Criticism about Candace's new series, The Bride of Charlie.
[00:37:38]  Please help.
[00:37:39]  She has to be stopped.
[00:37:40]  She can't go on destroying people's lives and reputations.
[00:37:44]  It's time to dig up her past and her gay husband's pasts.
[00:37:48]  Thank you for your attention to this matter.
[00:37:50]  Got the little truck.
[00:37:51]  Thank you.
[00:37:52]  The attention to this matter.
[00:37:54]  It is Trump writing it to us.
[00:37:56]  I hope Trump's writing us about that.
[00:37:58]  That would be sick.
[00:37:59]  Very cool.
[00:37:59]  I may have another one of those coming up later in the show.
[00:38:02]  But if anyone else wants to actually email us, though, louderthancrowder at gmail.com, it's our email address.
[00:38:07]  We'd love to hear from all of you.
[00:38:09]  Gotten some great shrug club tips, some scoops from y'all.
[00:38:13]  So I appreciate you very much.
[00:38:14]  Yeah.
[00:38:15]  Swiped.
[00:38:16]  Yeah.
[00:38:16]  So we're talking Rachel Wilson on Joe Rogan.
[00:38:21]  I don't know how that booking happened.
[00:38:24]  That's crazy, right?
[00:38:25]  Yeah, it must be a slow news day in my neighborhood.
[00:38:29]  Yeah, across the street from you.
[00:38:30]  Across the street from me.
[00:38:32]  Everything in this show is across the street from me, which is crazy.

=== Women Voting And Laws (15:44) ===

[00:38:35]  Everywhere I go, it's across the street from me.
[00:38:37]  Unfortunate for you.
[00:38:38]  I'm really sorry.
[00:38:39]  It's weird.
[00:38:40]  I don't know if you listened to the whole thing.
[00:38:42]  I don't even know how long it was.
[00:38:43]  I imagine it was a three-hour episode of Joe Rogan, but this is a little clip that he wants to lead off with from the Joe Rogan experience, which he called the Joe Rogan Show.
[00:38:52]  And he said it premiered that night, which is weird because, like, it's not a TV show and it doesn't have like a nighttime release, right?
[00:38:59]  I feel like, yeah, it comes out all day, all night, all day.
[00:39:04]  Great.
[00:39:04]  Joe Rogan podcast.
[00:39:06]  Joe Rogan show.
[00:39:09]  All day, all night, all day.
[00:39:10]  You know, that's the tagline.
[00:39:12]  This is normal.
[00:39:14]  I would think, okay, well, I think women should have the right to vote.
[00:39:16]  They're human beings.
[00:39:17]  They live here.
[00:39:18]  There's laws that are being coded.
[00:39:20]  Women really didn't want to be involved in politics.
[00:39:22]  They let them vote on whether they wanted the vote in a huge, the biggest referendum was in Massachusetts.
[00:39:29]  So they let women vote on whether they wanted to vote in a referendum.
[00:39:34]  Of the women that showed up, not a lot of them showed up.
[00:39:36]  It was a fairly smallish number, but of the thousands that showed up to vote, only 4% wanted suffrage on the ballot.
[00:39:45]  That's crazy.
[00:39:46]  Only 4%.
[00:39:47]  So guess what Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony did after that?
[00:39:51]  All the pro-suffrage leaders, they banned women from voting on whether they wanted to vote.
[00:39:58]  Oh my God.
[00:40:00]  Isn't that crazy?
[00:40:02]  Yeah.
[00:40:03]  And then men gave women the right to vote.
[00:40:05]  That's right.
[00:40:06]  That is crazy, Joe, and Rachel and Stephen and Gerald and Josh and Noodles and everyone else.
[00:40:15]  Are you familiar with this whole 1895 Massachusetts referendum situation?
[00:40:19]  Yeah, not this version of it, I guess.
[00:40:21]  Well, the version that she's stating is wrong.
[00:40:24]  Yeah.
[00:40:25]  Just so you know, this was a referendum to allow women to vote.
[00:40:29]  I think it was in local elections.
[00:40:31]  I'm not exactly sure.
[00:40:32]  And I do want to say, I'm not an expert in this.
[00:40:34]  I didn't write 130 pages on it.
[00:40:36]  I certainly haven't taken a debate course on this, and we'll talk about that in a second.
[00:40:40]  But to my knowledge, this 4% voting number that she says is actually 4% of the available women in Massachusetts showed up.
[00:40:49]  So the women eligible to vote on this was about 575,000.
[00:40:53]  And it was around 23,000 that showed up, which is where you get the 4% statistic that she's stating.
[00:41:00]  But she's implying that 4% voted yes of the people who did vote for it, which is wrong.
[00:41:06]  Of the 23,000.
[00:41:08]  But if she doesn't explicitly say that, you can just kind of like infer for yourself.
[00:41:13]  Exactly.
[00:41:13]  Just jump right past it.
[00:41:14]  That's crazy, says Joe.
[00:41:16]  Fuck off.
[00:41:17]  Of the 23,000 of that 4% that showed up, which don't get me started on reasons women wouldn't have showed up for this.
[00:41:25]  I would say most of them are men saying no or the fear of men in some way feeling emasculated by their partners voting, right?
[00:41:32]  Like 23,000 showed up to vote.
[00:41:35]  And of that number, 22,204 voted yes, and only 864 voted no.
[00:41:43]  A clear yes, right?
[00:41:46]  Yeah.
[00:41:48]  You're like, it's stupid, isn't it?
[00:41:53]  It's really dumb.
[00:41:54]  Yeah, it's just like, where do you even like take the bite alpha at?
[00:41:56]  And it's like, that's, I think, like it's too big of a burger.
[00:42:00]  Well, she's lying.
[00:42:01]  I just can't fit my mouth around this one.
[00:42:03]  She's stating a fact that's just not true.
[00:42:06]  Right.
[00:42:06]  It's just like another like dumb version of a stupid person touching numbers.
[00:42:11]  It's like you can kind of just like use these figures.
[00:42:16]  This is okay.
[00:42:17]  Great.
[00:42:18]  Here's 153 pages or whatever of a book about this.
[00:42:22]  Less.
[00:42:23]  Oh, God.
[00:42:24]  Yeah.
[00:42:24]  So 4%, that's 96% of the women who showed up voted yes.
[00:42:31]  But it's still lost.
[00:42:32]  The referendum still lost by, I think, two-thirds.
[00:42:35]  Most men said, no, we don't want women to vote.
[00:42:37]  And I guess this small amount of women that did vote, who 90, again, 96% said yes, we want the right to vote.
[00:42:46]  It wasn't enough to turn the tide, of course.
[00:42:49]  But, you know, then as Steven said, men gave women the right to vote, which unfortunately in a situation like that, yeah, they would have had to.
[00:42:59]  It's like saying, I guess they would say this too.
[00:43:02]  They would say that men gave slaves freedom, right?
[00:43:05]  Like Matt Walsh saying that like the majority of Americans like don't want this.
[00:43:10]  And it's like, like I say, it's like, now you need my voice to prove a point.
[00:43:15]  And there's all these systemic reasons that women wouldn't have been able or allowed to come out and like make their voice heard or make their preferences known, right?
[00:43:26]  Like men, again, are terribly insecure, especially when they're giving up what they perceive as rights.
[00:43:32]  And also, companies thought alcohol companies specifically thought that women would, if given the chance to vote, immediately vote for prohibition.
[00:43:41]  So these companies did these massive campaigns.
[00:43:43]  They threw all this money trying to keep women from getting the right to vote because it would change how society was running, right?
[00:43:51]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:43:52]  It disrupts more.
[00:43:53]  What I'm going to say is like why everyone's like on the Save Act stuff, where it's like, we're going to, this is like the preemptive to get rid of like mail-in ballots, basically, right?
[00:44:05]  Like, like, this is what they say is like, you know, Democrats want to expand the voter role and Republicans want to shrink it.
[00:44:13]  If less people vote, usually we can get Republican things done.
[00:44:18]  But more broadly, left things are more popular.
[00:44:22]  So we will disenfranchise as many people as possible to avoid that.
[00:44:27]  Exactly.
[00:44:27]  Yeah.
[00:44:28]  Strip the voter roles.
[00:44:29]  Like we've been seeing this for years, but this is like, you know, the most significant threat to that recently, right?
[00:44:35]  Like to say that.
[00:44:36]  Yeah.
[00:44:37]  And this is like something about like becomes like increasingly easy to report people's passports like stolen or whatever.
[00:44:46]  And so that like blocks them from being able to like get a new one.
[00:44:49]  So there's like a whole thing there with who can get a passport, who can't get a passport.
[00:44:54]  You can like falsely claim that someone's passport got stolen if you wanted people to like, you know what I mean?
[00:45:00]  Like there's just a lot of like new loopholes or like you have two last names because you got married.
[00:45:08]  Now it's invalidated tangentially.
[00:45:12]  All the trans people in Kansas saying that their driver's license were invalidated this week.
[00:45:18]  Overnight, yeah.
[00:45:19]  No, like all of these steps to disenfranchise people or in the case of women's suffrage, put a block on something.
[00:45:28]  It's all malicious and intentional, right?
[00:45:31]  Yeah.
[00:45:32]  Yeah.
[00:45:32]  But it's also against God.
[00:45:35]  The overwhelming majority of women did not want the vote because of what it came with, because they felt that they had influence and because they didn't want women to be ruined through the process of politics.
[00:45:45]  And they thought they would lose some influence and leverage.
[00:45:48]  And I'm sure that some people did feel that.
[00:45:50]  They felt the weight of the social cost of having to vote, which, of course, you don't have to vote.
[00:45:56]  But I'm sure at this point, and considering where we are now, enough women wanted to vote that they should be allowed to vote, right?
[00:46:03]  Right.
[00:46:03]  Yeah.
[00:46:04]  No-brainer.
[00:46:05]  So I guess if like women were concubines and they just didn't leave the house and they were only meant for like shooting out babies or whatever these people want, you know, then in a more perfect world for them, they would need the right to vote because they wouldn't be treated as people, but as cattle, right?
[00:46:24]  Uh-huh.
[00:46:25]  And that's the dream.
[00:46:26]  And they certainly weren't being treated like full people.
[00:46:29]  You know, even if you look at like lines of credit, that didn't start until 1970 something for women.
[00:46:35]  Like you couldn't get a credit card without like a co-signer of your husband or like a brother or a responsible cousin.
[00:46:42]  I don't even know if that's true.
[00:46:44]  They also wanted to prevent women from having the option to stay home.
[00:46:47]  So women right now, if you say, well, I can't have it all, I have to make a choice.
[00:46:51]  You can thank feminists who wanted to ensure that you couldn't stay home with your kids, but you'd outsource that.
[00:46:57]  You asked me, like, do women really want to be in the workplace or are they only kind of really choosing to do that?
[00:47:04]  That's a giant generalization, anyway.
[00:47:05]  Right, of course it is.
[00:47:06]  Obviously, some women do and some women don't.
[00:47:09]  And there's a lot of women who naturally maternally want to have children want to have a family.
[00:47:13]  Simone de Beauvoir, the arguably the biggest feminist of second wave, the French intellectual who was buddies with Jean-Paul Sartre and they got in trouble for grooming underage kids and seducing them and all kinds of crazy stuff.
[00:47:27]  But she's respected as the greatest feminist intellectual of the 20th century and she was super influential.
[00:47:32]  And in a 1970s interview with Betty Friedan, she said, I don't believe that society should give women the opportunity or the choice to stay home and be mothers, because if we do, they're all going to pick that.
[00:47:45]  And I don't think it should be an option.
[00:47:47]  So it was the view of the feminists that, yeah, and Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton said that.
[00:47:55]  They said, we would have never passed suffrage had it not been for men.
[00:48:00]  If it was ever left up to women alone, we would have never passed suffrage.
[00:48:04]  They would have never gone for it.
[00:48:05]  They don't want liberation.
[00:48:07]  And I really hope that if you're watching this, and I know we have plenty of women who watch, but I hope that you sit down and watch this with your wife.
[00:48:18]  What a fun night, right?
[00:48:19]  so had any fridge honey after you make dinner could you i think we should do this hmm Let's get the TV tables out.
[00:48:30]  Let's bust out the trays.
[00:48:32]  I want to show you this Rachel Wilson conversation with Joe Rogan.
[00:48:35]  This is really important.
[00:48:36]  And I think you need to start, you know, a lot of talk today about role models.
[00:48:41]  Joe Rogan podcast.
[00:48:42]  Check it out.
[00:48:43]  Yeah.
[00:48:44]  This is what we talk about over here.
[00:48:46]  Wouldn't it be sick to get your wife sit her down on the couch during dinner to watch Joe Rogan podcast all day, all night, all day?
[00:48:53]  All day.
[00:48:54]  Holy shit.
[00:48:55]  Simone de Beauvoir.
[00:48:57]  I would maybe agree.
[00:48:59]  I don't know.
[00:48:59]  Again, I don't know too terribly much about the subject.
[00:49:02]  I didn't write a 130-page book.
[00:49:05]  But I do think it's probably fair to say that she has the strongest claim to the title as like the thought leader behind second wave feminism.
[00:49:12]  But that doesn't mean that everything that she says in all context is good or correct, right?
[00:49:18]  I would think just like most things have a beginning of an idea, and then over time that morphs into a modern sense.
[00:49:29]  So the idea at its core is like evolved.
[00:49:32]  In a sense, though, the book that she wrote that a lot of people reference is called The Second Sex from 1949.
[00:49:38]  It's a very foundational modern feminist theory book.
[00:49:42]  And it argues for women's rights, you know, a philosophical framework from the understanding of how women, the term women, you know, is constructed as the other against the default male.
[00:49:53]  It's pushing back against that.
[00:49:54]  So I haven't read the book, but I do know that the quote that Rachel is talking about was during an interview in 1975.
[00:50:02]  So we're talking about 25 years later, and it's expressing a lot of frustration about the current state of feminism in the 70s.
[00:50:09]  What did she say?
[00:50:10]  That women should have no choice.
[00:50:12]  If given the choice for women to stay home instead of going to the workforce, they shouldn't have that choice.
[00:50:18]  But that was not like, it wasn't an expression of like, this is my policy or what should be policy.
[00:50:24]  It's an expression of frustration about the current state, right?
[00:50:27]  It goes against her book itself.
[00:50:30]  Like her book never explicitly says that and doesn't push for that at all.
[00:50:34]  It pushes for choice.
[00:50:36]  And again, I haven't read the book, so I don't have the full context of that.
[00:50:39]  But I do know that that's the main argument of feminism is like, if you want to be a stay-at-home parent, a housewife, that's your choice, right?
[00:50:49]  Yeah, no one's telling you that you can't do that.
[00:50:52]  If you can come to like an understanding or find even a partner who can do that for you, then like, why not?
[00:51:02]  I don't know why it matters to anyone what anyone's doing other than the fact that it's like, oh, I wish that I could like have more days off.
[00:51:10]  Ultimately, like everyone wants a day off.
[00:51:13]  Of course.
[00:51:13]  Everyone just needs a vacation sometimes.
[00:51:16]  Like every, you know, like we live in an extraction economy.
[00:51:19]  So like it's very difficult to find time for yourself in any line of work or in any type of like profession.
[00:51:27]  If you can manage that, then it's like, oh, yeah, that would be ideal.
[00:51:32]  Ultimately, I think people would be like, all right, I'm good.
[00:51:35]  I just needed a break.
[00:51:36]  Now it's back to whatever's next.
[00:51:39]  Yeah.
[00:51:40]  The problem, though, is we're taking this one moment from a person who wrote like a 700-page book on feminism.
[00:51:47]  Again, she's expressing frustration in the moment that women shouldn't be allowed to choose.
[00:51:52]  And that, again, goes immediately against what she's saying.
[00:51:56]  You know, the idea of women being autonomous.
[00:51:58]  That's the whole thesis of this book.
[00:52:00]  So I think that there's some frustration there because like of the lack of forward movement, right?
[00:52:05]  Yeah.
[00:52:05]  It doesn't matter.
[00:52:06]  What she said in this interview was wrong, but that doesn't mean that the idea, the concept behind second wave feminism and the, you know, what's inside the book, The Second Sex, which I'm sure that there's things in that that I would disagree with potentially as well.
[00:52:20]  I haven't read it.
[00:52:21]  That's like one, two, three, four, five or six Rachel Wilson books.
[00:52:27]  Yeah, or just, I don't know.
[00:52:28]  I mean, they're just like things through a modern lens that like get adapted for time.
[00:52:33]  Like they do it all the time with like abortion shit, right?
[00:52:37]  Yeah.
[00:52:38]  Assign new meaning to like old text or like none of this means anything to any of these people.
[00:52:45]  So it's it's coming from a place of like dumb as fuck.
[00:52:50]  So sure, whatever, man.
[00:52:52]  I don't know.
[00:52:53]  I think Joe Rogan seemed pretty interested in this.
[00:52:56]  Yeah, I actually don't think he did from the sound of it.
[00:52:59]  Sit down, pull up your TV tray, pay attention.
[00:53:02]  This is my favorite part.
[00:53:03]  Jamie, pull it up.
[00:53:04]  And that's something we need to break through.
[00:53:06]  If we have this conversation, go, you know, actually, the 19th may have been a mistake in a lot of ways.
[00:53:12]  People, whoa, whoa, whoa, you must be a showman.
[00:53:14]  Hold on, hold on.
[00:53:15]  And actually, not just third wave feminism.
[00:53:18]  All feminism may have been not just a mistake, but a very evilly influenced movement.
[00:53:27]  And it's antithetical to all forms of true Christianity.
[00:53:32]  Okay, well, that's all that matters, right?
[00:53:34]  These guys just don't really understand what feminism is about, right?
[00:53:38]  Or maybe they do, and they're just...
[00:53:39]  You know, I feel like they have...
[00:53:42]  Like, what would even be, like...
[00:53:44]  Not even, like, the idiot's guide to feminism.
[00:53:48]  Sure, feminism for dummies.
[00:53:49]  Yeah.
[00:53:50]  Yeah, like they don't even have that.
[00:53:53]  They have like the bully from Boy Meets World, their definition, feminism for girls that just want equality.
[00:54:03]  They heard that in like 1996.
[00:54:06]  They've never moved beyond that definition.
[00:54:09]  It's like, that's what it is.
[00:54:11]  The Adam Scott character in Boy Meets World said this, and that's what it is forever.

=== Understanding Feminism Basics (10:38) ===

[00:54:19]  You know?
[00:54:19]  Because Griff had money.
[00:54:22]  Griff was a rich kid.
[00:54:23]  And so like, again, Wallet is your IQ.
[00:54:26]  So Griff is, he is the established thought leader on what feminism is.
[00:54:32]  Interesting.
[00:54:33]  Period.
[00:54:33]  The everyman is the authority, I think, is what we're figuring out here.
[00:54:37]  That sounds about right.
[00:54:38]  If your uncle's confused about something, but talks with authority, better listen.
[00:54:44]  I did find it weird that Steven was taking a sudden interest in Rachel Wilson.
[00:54:49]  I mean, I personally was, when I saw this pop up, I know that it was on my radar to check out, but I didn't expect this.
[00:54:57]  You know, I don't really take part.
[00:54:59]  We do this show, and I hope the work speaks for itself.
[00:55:03]  We provide all the references.
[00:55:04]  I don't take part in a lot of outside projects.
[00:55:07]  But because I think this is important enough, they did approach me regarding a debate course specifically on feminism because I think that's a battlefront that's going to be incredibly important, especially when you look at relationship dynamics.
[00:55:19]  She mentioned it on Joe Rogan's show.
[00:55:21]  Here it is.
[00:55:22]  I'm glad you brought that up.
[00:55:23]  I just finished a huge project that I'm working on with Andrew, my excellent handsome husband, and Steven Crowder, Dr. David Patrick Harry, and Rob Noor, who's a champion debater.
[00:55:35]  We put together a feminist debate course that's coming out really soon.
[00:55:38]  I think this week.
[00:55:39]  I think it drops this week.
[00:55:41]  And we go over all these myths and debunk them.
[00:55:43]  And we show people and demonstrate how to debate this feminism thing because it's a leviathan.
[00:55:49]  It's a beast.
[00:55:50]  If you take it on, like one of the reasons I'm out here doing it is because when men try to argue against feminism or feminists, they immediately get slapped with you're a misogynist, you hate women, you're an incel, all the tropes.
[00:56:02]  You have a small dick.
[00:56:03]  What are you gay?
[00:56:04]  Like just all the insults, right?
[00:56:06]  Well, when I sit in front of them and make those arguments, you can't really just get away with that.
[00:56:11]  You have to contend with them because I'm a woman.
[00:56:14]  Right.
[00:56:14]  I mean, you could try to insult me, but it's not going to land the same as when you do that to a man.
[00:56:18]  And here's something I will say that I love about Rachel.
[00:56:21]  You'd be surprised.
[00:56:22]  Legitimately, she's the meaner one of her Andrew.
[00:56:26]  But she's not mean.
[00:56:27]  She's just very dismissive.
[00:56:30]  Great.
[00:56:31]  Outwardly dismissive.
[00:56:32]  You have to take me seriously because I'm a woman.
[00:56:35]  It's like, none of these people take you seriously.
[00:56:37]  That's the whole thing.
[00:56:38]  I mean, if Steven is doing this as an advertising opportunity, of course, this is, yeah, content to commercial pipeline.
[00:56:45]  This whole segment is just an extended advertisement for Stephen's participation in this course over at debateuniversity.com.
[00:56:54]  Guys, cool site.
[00:56:56]  Really great stuff.
[00:56:57]  The available courses right now, Jared, you ready?
[00:57:00]  Verbal combat and verbal judo, which is interesting because judo is a type of combat, right?
[00:57:07]  Right, right.
[00:57:08]  But they're different types of combat.
[00:57:10]  Like one of them, one of them you start from the ground and then the other one you start from a standing position.
[00:57:16]  Well, the thing is, combat is general and then judo is specific, but that's okay.
[00:57:21]  Yeah.
[00:57:22]  We're going to do Romanian sparring.
[00:57:25]  We're going to get Greco on him.
[00:57:27]  We're going to go, yeah, we're going to go conversational Greco-Roman.
[00:57:31]  Yeah.
[00:57:31]  We're going to get down and dirty with some BJJ, BJs.
[00:57:35]  And we're going to do a bunch of kava and do some Krav Maga.
[00:57:44]  That's kind of cool.
[00:57:45]  Throw a fucking chair at you.
[00:57:46]  That's kind of dismissive debates.
[00:57:49]  Verbally.
[00:57:50]  Okay, it's verbal.
[00:57:51]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:57:51]  I had to take a drink of the kava there.
[00:57:53]  Sorry.
[00:57:54]  The course is available now.
[00:57:55]  The website is terrible.
[00:57:57]  My favorite thing so far, just a couple proofreading things.
[00:58:01]  It says course length, 86 videos, runtime, X hours, X minutes.
[00:58:05]  It looks like they haven't quite filled that part out yet.
[00:58:09]  How much would you assume the course is, by the way?
[00:58:12]  $70.
[00:58:14]  Three payments.
[00:58:14]  That's so close.
[00:58:15]  $150 for this course.
[00:58:18]  That's two payments.
[00:58:19]  That's with a coupon, so it's normally $250.
[00:58:22]  But it says more coming soon and about the hosts.
[00:58:26]  So about $85.
[00:58:29]  It's a lot of money.
[00:58:30]  Three payments on Klarna.
[00:58:31]  You know, the boys are Klarnaing this for sure.
[00:58:34]  If they're doing it, they're not buying this.
[00:58:35]  They don't have that kind of money right now.
[00:58:38]  It's all tied up and only thing.
[00:58:40]  They know it's a problem.
[00:58:41]  Okay.
[00:58:42]  Andrew Wilson is one of the hosts.
[00:58:44]  And then another host, Brian Atlas, who is the moderator and host of the Whatever podcast.
[00:58:51]  Brian Atlas.
[00:58:52]  Yeah.
[00:58:54]  And then their other host here, Stephen Crowder, Louder with Crowder.
[00:58:57]  And when you click on his image, which is kind of interesting, it takes you to, oh, shoot.
[00:59:02]  It's the whatever podcast.
[00:59:04]  Seems like they didn't fix the link there.
[00:59:08]  They just kind of copy-pasted whatever Brian's link was and then had Steven.
[00:59:13]  So, just a couple quick notes there.
[00:59:15]  I think you might want to update that because whatever is getting all the hits from people clicking on Steven Crowder.
[00:59:21]  The runtime's wrong.
[00:59:22]  It's just a confusing bad website.
[00:59:24]  Text overlaps on buttons and images.
[00:59:27]  It's just a mess overall.
[00:59:29]  Course introduction: it just says video lessons include introduction.
[00:59:36]  Hmm.
[00:59:38]  The meet the expert, but this is terrible, but it's all been an ad.
[00:59:42]  This is kind of stuff that I would expect from someone like, I don't know, InfoWars folks, right?
[00:59:49]  Yeah, I think maybe it is they're just allowing.
[00:59:53]  I'm just blown away at how fucking dog shit you guys have been making this thing.
[01:00:00]  Yeah.
[01:00:00]  Just take like taking InfoWars, had like a while to get it right.
[01:00:05]  So by the time that actually like the spotlight was on them, they were like ready to function.
[01:00:11]  We have all kinds of colloidal silver that we can just send you right now.
[01:00:14]  Yeah, we got a warehouse full of this stuff.
[01:00:16]  Dan, he made some fucking cash off of that.
[01:00:18]  These guys are getting attention on them right now.
[01:00:20]  Like they summoned Steven Crowder's name onto the Joe Rogan show.
[01:00:26]  And we know what their infrastructure looks like.
[01:00:30]  Very akin to like the DOJ releasing like the redaction files where all you have to do is say like unredact and it fucking shows you every name underneath the black bars or whatever.
[01:00:43]  It's just more incompetence, man.
[01:00:45]  Like they're not ready for the big time.
[01:00:47]  They've never been ready for the big time.
[01:00:50]  The fact that they were there was kind of a little bit of a fluke, I'm thinking, sometimes.
[01:00:54]  Well, and that stuff never lasts, though.
[01:00:56]  So I guess we'll just keep watching this slow descent until it crash lands.
[01:01:01]  So so far, I would recommend someone maybe squarespace.com or something next time.
[01:01:06]  Website's bad.
[01:01:07]  Wix.
[01:01:08]  Probably more up there.
[01:01:09]  Alleyway.
[01:01:10]  Yeah.
[01:01:11]  You don't always need a degree from an Ivy League school to understand something, to be well read.
[01:01:17]  Sometimes you're sometimes a mechanic knows more about politics than a brain surgeon.
[01:01:22]  Sometimes a doctor knows nothing about intergender dynamics.
[01:01:27]  This, if you take this course, debateeniversity.com.
[01:01:29]  So for a course, it's actually very affordable.
[01:01:31]  It may sound high compared to things online.
[01:01:33]  You'll be equipped and you won't be caught flat-footed ever again.
[01:01:36]  We're going to try and change this and give you the tools that you need.
[01:01:39]  DebateUniversity.com.
[01:01:40]  I can't tell you how solid the Wilsons are.
[01:01:43]  And I'm glad to have come to know them.
[01:01:46]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:01:47]  And so many times in chat, we get people asking us from the mug clubbers, like, hey, how do we effectively communicate this?
[01:01:52]  How do I tell a friend this?
[01:01:53]  I'm going to deal with this.
[01:01:54]  How do I do?
[01:01:55]  This is how.
[01:01:56]  Based on High for Things Online, this is affordable and you can get it on Clorina.
[01:02:02]  Well said, Steven.
[01:02:03]  Yeah, we're going to give you all the tools you need to email the right person.
[01:02:07]  Oh, yeah.
[01:02:09]  Speaking of that, Jared, this is a great email I got.
[01:02:13]  Subject line, your supporter, but a major question.
[01:02:17]  It's from Rocky Scroggins.
[01:02:19]  I'm only saying that because I know that that name can't be real.
[01:02:22]  Rocky Scroggins.
[01:02:23]  Rocky Scroggins says, you regularly use Biden's 1985 comment using a slang term referring to black people.
[01:02:32]  Remember, he said the N-word during the debate on the floor of the house.
[01:02:36]  Yeah, he said it to Charlemagne the gods.
[01:02:39]  Well, that was a different time.
[01:02:40]  That was, and he didn't say a slur, but after researching it, he was actually wearing a Kangle hat, though.
[01:02:47]  And that was confusing, but we look past that because we're libs.
[01:02:51]  Quentin Tarantino does it, Jack?
[01:02:58]  This supporter with a major question says, after researching it, he was actually quoting someone else.
[01:03:04]  I listen to all of your content and am agreeable in most things.
[01:03:09]  However, I need real info on this to continue to purchase Rumble Premium.
[01:03:14]  Wow.
[01:03:15]  Listen, that's really like an illuminating email to have accidentally received this communication from Rocky Scroggins about a supporter who's questioning his support of Steven Crowder, specifically in this case, that comment that Biden made in 1985 where he said the N-word on the floors of Congress, Senate.
[01:03:34]  What was he?
[01:03:34]  Senator?
[01:03:35]  He was a senator, right?
[01:03:36]  Senate.
[01:03:37]  I think he's been on the Senate forever.
[01:03:38]  For this person to say, I'm usually agreeable, but I need real info on this to continue.
[01:03:44]  I'd say you have the real info, Rocky.
[01:03:46]  I know you're not listening, but I actually might reach out to Rocky.
[01:03:49]  Like, it seems like he's done the work to understand that this is just a crack and this is just part of the stuff that Steven says deceptively all the time.
[01:03:58]  And a lot of folks on the right, you know, to try to thinking that they're naive and that they're incapable of critical thinking and taking advantage of that.
[01:04:07]  Yeah, they don't think that you can handle yourself in this world of information.
[01:04:12]  So if all he has to say is like, oh, well, we cite our sources, it's like, yeah, well, we also know how you cite your sources from 1996.
[01:04:22]  Yeah.
[01:04:23]  If you were truly citing your sources, you would not be selective of the sources that you're citing, right?
[01:04:28]  Right.
[01:04:28]  To say you're transparent is just bullshit.
[01:04:31]  Again, I mean, this is an odd transitional period for Steven.
[01:04:35]  I wouldn't have thought that we would start out 2026 with him pitching his first supplement, which is just turmeric, right?
[01:04:42]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:04:43]  Yeah.
[01:04:43]  Found turmeric foundation.
[01:04:45]  Yeah.
[01:04:46]  Turmeric and wood chips.
[01:04:49]  It is wood chips, and there's a little bit of tallow in there because it's now at the top of the paranoia.
[01:04:54]  Clarified D. Turmeric and garlic.

=== JD Vance Iran Stance (14:53) ===

[01:04:58]  And yeah, I just, I didn't think that we'd be making the InfoWars pivot so aggressively, right?
[01:05:04]  Like we're hawking debate courses for $250 and pills.
[01:05:08]  And that's where we are.
[01:05:10]  And unfortunately, this is also where we are.
[01:05:12]  We're going to be talking now about Iran.
[01:05:15]  Yeah.
[01:05:15]  Isn't that fun?
[01:05:16]  I don't know.
[01:05:17]  Not really.
[01:05:17]  Yeah, not especially.
[01:05:19]  I thought we were going to talk about Team USA hamburger party.
[01:05:23]  I was hoping for a late day.
[01:05:26]  Oh, yeah.
[01:05:28]  We don't have to talk about Iran.
[01:05:30]  We could stop the show right now.
[01:05:32]  Let's go.
[01:05:32]  Let's go.
[01:05:33]  I mean, I will say it again.
[01:05:34]  I don't have a good understanding of foreign policy, if I'm being real.
[01:05:40]  Yeah, I don't either, really.
[01:05:41]  But I'm interested to hear what they say.
[01:05:43]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:05:45]  It's fun.
[01:05:45]  Isn't that fun?
[01:05:46]  Yes, it is.
[01:05:47]  It's a very fun place.
[01:05:50]  Again, you don't need to pull back just because you thought you were drunk on that live stream.
[01:05:55]  He didn't think he was.
[01:05:56]  I was.
[01:05:56]  I didn't see.
[01:05:58]  You said you thought I was like, I was a little toasted.
[01:06:01]  I'm refined.
[01:06:01]  What do you think?
[01:06:02]  Well, that's my fault because the drinking game rules were so effective.
[01:06:05]  It was not fine.
[01:06:08]  I haven't gone back and watched.
[01:06:09]  I called Gerald an asshole.
[01:06:11]  You did?
[01:06:11]  He did.
[01:06:12]  And it was kind of embarrassing.
[01:06:13]  Their drinking game during the State of the Union got a little bit out of hand.
[01:06:17]  Yeah.
[01:06:17]  Okay.
[01:06:18]  I mean, so much so that they were having to take ibuprofen the next day and causing farts.
[01:06:23]  Right.
[01:06:23]  Yeah.
[01:06:23]  Goddamn gassy boys.
[01:06:25]  You're going to watch us watch them for a little bit.
[01:06:27]  Again, at Shrug.club for free.
[01:06:30]  Go check it out.
[01:06:30]  We had a good time.
[01:06:31]  But again, the State of the Union, really long, right?
[01:06:34]  They should have thought about that.
[01:06:36]  If they're doing a drinking game, a two-hour long drinking game, they're going to get pretty drunk.
[01:06:41]  Just non-stop drinking for two hours.
[01:06:43]  It's irresponsible.
[01:06:45]  But I don't know.
[01:06:46]  They're fine.
[01:06:46]  They're grown, man.
[01:06:47]  Yeah.
[01:06:49]  They can handle a bellyache and still do a show.
[01:06:52]  Well, it doesn't seem like it.
[01:06:53]  I think there is a case to be made on both sides here with Iran.
[01:06:58]  I think there have been some missteps.
[01:07:00]  I also acknowledge the threat that Iran is, and I also need to really lay the foundation here for all of the disagreements.
[01:07:07]  Should we do something?
[01:07:08]  Should we not do anything?
[01:07:09]  Why do you think we might engage?
[01:07:12]  One thing that's paramount.
[01:07:13]  There is absolutely no betrayal taking place from Donald Trump if action is taken on Iran.
[01:07:18]  Anyone who voted for Donald Trump and believes that they are being betrayed if he bombs Iran or if he takes military action was an uninformed voter.
[01:07:30]  You need to take accountability for that.
[01:07:32]  You may disagree with them.
[01:07:34]  Oh.
[01:07:35]  Oh.
[01:07:36]  We're doing more talking down to the people who supported Donald Trump, I guess.
[01:07:40]  Oh, okay.
[01:07:40]  What do you think was said more?
[01:07:42]  For a long time, Donald Trump has been critical of Iran.
[01:07:46]  Remember, after he lost the election, he was going to start a war with Iran so he could try to, you know, kill.
[01:07:50]  He said Obama was going to start a war with Iran.
[01:07:53]  He said that a whole bunch, and I have all of those quotes pulled as well.
[01:07:56]  But I think that more than that, he did say that he was going to be the peace president.
[01:08:00]  He wasn't going to start any wars.
[01:08:01]  Yeah, more than anything else.
[01:08:02]  That's what I remember.
[01:08:04]  And then a couple times he was critical of Iran and expressed that they should never have access to nuclear weapons.
[01:08:09]  Yeah, I think didn't they shut him down?
[01:08:12]  Like just a couple months ago at this point, they did a big bunkabusta.
[01:08:16]  Oh yeah, bunkabusta.
[01:08:18]  They did a bunkabusta and took out the whole operation, remember?
[01:08:21]  Devastated it.
[01:08:22]  Yeah, I remember Dennis saying bunkabusta.
[01:08:25]  Oh, he loved saying bunkabusta.
[01:08:27]  I missed that guy.
[01:08:27]  Israel and Iran, to me, irrelevant.
[01:08:30]  Of course, Israel has a problem with Iran.
[01:08:32]  They have a vested interest in Iran being neutered.
[01:08:35]  I get that.
[01:08:36]  But let's just say Canada had nukes and ballistic missiles aimed at Israel, but they also had some aimed at the United States.
[01:08:45]  That doesn't mean that the United States is fighting a war for Israel.
[01:08:47]  If they say, Canada, we have our eyes on your nukes.
[01:08:51]  Two people can hate the same bad actor and two people can be in a conflict with them.
[01:08:56]  And it doesn't mean that they're acting on each other's behalf.
[01:08:59]  I absolutely agree with anyone who says we should not go to war for the interests of Israel.
[01:09:07]  Correct.
[01:09:07]  Yeah, but what are we doing?
[01:09:09]  I mean, to say that, yeah, we can both hate the same person, but let's put ourselves in a high school.
[01:09:14]  We're in between class.
[01:09:16]  A guy's like, you should go kick that guy's ass.
[01:09:19]  And both of you don't like that guy.
[01:09:21]  But you weren't really planning on kicking that guy's ass, right?
[01:09:24]  Yeah.
[01:09:25]  Oh, you should really do it.
[01:09:26]  Look at that guy.
[01:09:28]  We should kick the fucking shit out of that guy.
[01:09:30]  He's doing a FBI informant to a teenager.
[01:09:34]  To like a brown teenager.
[01:09:36]  That's interesting.
[01:09:37]  I didn't even consider the parallels there, right?
[01:09:40]  Yeah.
[01:09:40]  We don't know the honest truth about why the United States, how the United States and Israel were communicating ahead of this attack, but we do know that they made the decision together and did it together, right?
[01:09:53]  Yeah, they did a little Laverne and Shirley, like we've been known to do.
[01:09:57]  Sure.
[01:09:58]  Just drive off the cliff together.
[01:10:00]  Well, that's Delman and Louise, but I like both versions.
[01:10:04]  Yeah, yeah, both versions.
[01:10:05]  Sorry.
[01:10:06]  Oh, my God.
[01:10:06]  A more violent version of the nation.
[01:10:09]  In my head, they were roommates for a second.
[01:10:11]  They were having a good time.
[01:10:13]  Roommates episode.
[01:10:14]  This is Stephen trying to make excuses for the United States.
[01:10:17]  We're going to immediately remove the whole Israel thing.
[01:10:20]  This has nothing to do with Israel.
[01:10:22]  But it might.
[01:10:23]  No.
[01:10:24]  No?
[01:10:25]  I feel like it probably does.
[01:10:27]  This has been stated as like the last opportunity that Israel will have full support of the United States to do something like this.
[01:10:36]  Right.
[01:10:36]  And without us, they aren't really capable.
[01:10:39]  Yeah, we're funding the shit out of them.
[01:10:42]  It is pretty hard to consider who would step up and support them in the same way.
[01:10:49]  I don't know.
[01:10:49]  No, support's done.
[01:10:51]  We're done after this.
[01:10:52]  This is the last opportunity that Israel has to make this move.
[01:10:57]  They've never had political alignment like this, and they will never have it like this again.
[01:11:03]  But there's other reasons, right?
[01:11:05]  President Trump has been saying since at least 2011.
[01:11:09]  Here's 2011.
[01:11:11]  I believe this is a quote from President Trump, right?
[01:11:15]  Yes.
[01:11:16]  America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions.
[01:11:20]  Let me put them as plainly as I know how.
[01:11:22]  Iran's nuclear program must be stopped by any and all means necessary.
[01:11:27]  Period.
[01:11:28]  We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.
[01:11:35]  Okay, so we go.
[01:11:36]  Don't care about Israel and Iran.
[01:11:38]  Does the United States have its own separate conflict with Iran?
[01:11:41]  The answer is yes.
[01:11:42]  Has Donald Trump been consistent as far as a presidential candidate and a president in saying that Iran is a threat?
[01:11:50]  Yes.
[01:11:50]  Kind of, but he also said a bunch of other stuff in November of 2011.
[01:11:53]  Like you said, Jared.
[01:11:55]  He said, and this is a quote, right?
[01:11:58]  A president.
[01:11:59]  I was going to do the same thing he did.
[01:12:01]  Just get permission to do a voice.
[01:12:03]  You have got to ask the boys in the booth.
[01:12:04]  And this is him, right?
[01:12:10]  Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate.
[01:12:14]  He's weak.
[01:12:15]  He's ineffective.
[01:12:16]  So the only way he figures that he's going to get re-elected, and as sure as you're sitting there, is to start a war with Iran.
[01:12:23]  So he's talking about Barack Obama here in 2011.
[01:12:26]  It's funny that he's saying both of those things, right?
[01:12:29]  Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.
[01:12:30]  And also our president's going to start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate, which is the thing that we fake did last week.
[01:12:38]  We did a lot of coming to the table saying this is what you got to do.
[01:12:43]  Did they agree to something?
[01:12:44]  They agreed to a lot of things.
[01:12:46]  We were in the middle of negotiation.
[01:12:48]  We're not going to do any of this shit.
[01:12:50]  We left those meetings, both sides saying, hey, we made some good progress on these things.
[01:12:55]  These are things that need to work.
[01:12:56]  And they had plans of coming back together tomorrow, technically, which would have been March 2nd.
[01:13:01]  Just like we did last time after negotiating with Iran, we left the table and took advantage of that moment of peace and communication by attacking them.
[01:13:12]  Killing a bunch of kids.
[01:13:14]  Yeah.
[01:13:15]  A bunch of girls at a girl's school.
[01:13:17]  I mean, we did that.
[01:13:18]  I'll say, yeah, it was awful.
[01:13:21]  We watched that again, and I think that that'll be up.
[01:13:23]  That was a double salutes episode will be up at Shrug.club too.
[01:13:26]  Our initial reactions, because someone in the chat at 1 a.m. told us that that all started.
[01:13:31]  That was horrific.
[01:13:32]  What an awful situation.
[01:13:33]  Yeah.
[01:13:34]  And I haven't seen any comments.
[01:13:37]  No reason.
[01:13:38]  No accountability.
[01:13:39]  Well, my opinion on it is pinpoint accuracy.
[01:13:43]  So if they killed Calamini on purpose, then they killed those kids on purpose.
[01:13:48]  And if they didn't, then both things were a mistake.
[01:13:53]  We got really lucky with that guy.
[01:13:56]  And really unlucky with those kids.
[01:13:58]  Or.
[01:14:00]  Yeah.
[01:14:01]  More likely that they were both on purpose.
[01:14:05]  Same month, same year, November 2011, Donald Trump tweeted, in order to get elected at Barack Obama, we'll start a war with Iran.
[01:14:13]  October 2012, he said, now that Obama's poll numbers are in a tailspin, watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran.
[01:14:20]  He's desperate.
[01:14:21]  That's kind of interesting because that's kind of what's going on now, right?
[01:14:24]  Seems like the poll numbers support for Donald Trump is in the shitter and the midterms are looking kind of grim for those folks.
[01:14:30]  Sounds right.
[01:14:31]  Next tweet, he says, don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected.
[01:14:36]  Be careful, Republicans.
[01:14:38]  And then the next year, November 2011, he says, remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly.
[01:14:49]  Not skilled, he shouts at the end there.
[01:14:53]  Embarrassing.
[01:14:54]  Yeah, truly.
[01:14:55]  To pull one quote from the same year and same month, Stephen, and ignore all of this is pretty interesting stuff.
[01:15:02]  You got to really put on the blinders.
[01:15:05]  I mean, do you?
[01:15:08]  Well, no, I guess not.
[01:15:10]  I guess not.
[01:15:11]  Yeah, it doesn't really seem like they do.
[01:15:12]  They kind of just let it wash over them and then go like, yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.
[01:15:17]  I'm going to grab this part, and we don't need to let our audience know this other stuff at all.
[01:15:22]  They're too stupid to look it up.
[01:15:23]  Dumb fucks.
[01:15:24]  Speaking of dumb fucks, we got JD Vance talking about Iran and how if they would go to total war, he'd be against it, which is quite interesting because it seems like that's almost where we're headed.
[01:15:34]  The principle's very simple.
[01:15:36]  Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
[01:15:38]  If they try to rebuild the nuclear weapon, that causes problems for us.
[01:15:41]  And in fact, we've seen evidence that they have tried to do exactly that.
[01:15:45]  So the president sending those negotiators to try to address that problem.
[01:15:49]  As the president has said repeatedly, he wants to address that problem diplomatically.
[01:15:53]  But of course, the president has other options as well.
[01:15:56]  And he said the idea that we're going to be in a Middle Eastern war for years with no one in sight, there is no chance that will happen.
[01:16:02]  Here's what I'll say.
[01:16:04]  If that is incorrect, if we end up in a never-ending war in the Middle East, which I think is very unlikely, then JD Vance should be held accountable and should get nowhere in a primary.
[01:16:16]  I think that's fair.
[01:16:17]  I agree.
[01:16:18]  I think we need to hold them to their word as far as our communications.
[01:16:21]  I think there's a very big difference between a few flyovers or strategic strikes and war.
[01:16:29]  And I think we do allow for that possibility because everyone said we were at World War III when we carried out the strike against their enrichment facilities last year.
[01:16:38]  Of course, we're not in World War III.
[01:16:41]  We're getting closer, though, right?
[01:16:44]  To return to the same thing and attack more, I feel like that's a continuation of a conflict, an escalation.
[01:16:50]  Yeah.
[01:16:50]  Maybe not World War III, but a different thing.
[01:16:54]  I mean, rile up enough people who will respond to us doing this shit.
[01:17:03]  That's kind of what it seems like we're fucking around with.
[01:17:07]  But then, of course, like people, you know, you think about like Netanyahu getting like an arrest warrant and nothing happening with that.
[01:17:16]  You know what I mean?
[01:17:17]  He came to the United States, right?
[01:17:19]  Like recently.
[01:17:20]  Yeah, but I don't think the United States put it on him.
[01:17:22]  I think like another country did.
[01:17:25]  I felt like Mamdani said that if he went to New York, they would arrest him.
[01:17:29]  Yeah.
[01:17:30]  I hope so.
[01:17:31]  I also think that we've identified maybe the direction that Stephen's going to go on Monday, saying there's a big difference between a few flyovers and targeted attacks and all-out war.
[01:17:42]  I think that that's maybe where he's going to land because it buys him more time to come up with a different idea of how to say war is bad, but also war is what he wants.
[01:17:52]  Yeah, I think that, I mean, they just want imperialism and then they want to complain that they've done imperialism.
[01:17:58]  And if they're not doing that, they don't have anything to talk about.
[01:18:01]  Well, but if it's not for Israel and I don't know, what could it be for?
[01:18:07]  Israel has nothing to do with this.
[01:18:09]  We do not act on behalf of Israel, period.
[01:18:12]  And I don't want Israel leading the dance in any way, shape, or form.
[01:18:15]  In other words, if Iran was an ally, they're not, but if they were and Israel had a problem with them, you're on your own, Israel.
[01:18:21]  Do we agree with that?
[01:18:21]  100%.
[01:18:22]  Okay.
[01:18:22]  No American boots on the ground.
[01:18:24]  100%.
[01:18:25]  Okay, that's what he wants.
[01:18:26]  Just today, though, we have our first casualties from this conflict.
[01:18:31]  Right out the gate.
[01:18:32]  Immediately.
[01:18:33]  Was it three or four folks died?
[01:18:35]  I don't know.
[01:18:36]  Our boots are on the ground, right?
[01:18:37]  Like, war is different than it was before.
[01:18:39]  I don't know, I wouldn't count out us going door to door like we were doing in Iraq, you know, that type of commercial residential conflict, right?
[01:18:49]  Like inside of a city.
[01:18:51]  I think if we're looking at something like the enrichment facility, if we're looking at something like Maduro, a mission like that, that's something that a lot of Americans can stomach.
[01:19:00]  A war is not.
[01:19:02]  And I think we're seeing a lot of people on the left and the black pillars trying to tell you this is all about war.
[01:19:08]  This is all, remember we used to get that with George W. Bush?
[01:19:10]  It's war for oil, war for oil.
[01:19:12]  Hold on a second.
[01:19:13]  Why would we go to war with Iran?
[01:19:16]  Why would we carry out any military intervention or strikes in Iran if not due to national security interests?
[01:19:24]  Like what financial interest do we have in it?
[01:19:27]  It doesn't make sense.
[01:19:30]  What?
[01:19:32]  What could possibly be the reason to go to war, Jared, with Iran?
[01:19:37]  It's not for Israel and not for oil, even though I'll stop it right now.
[01:19:41]  It's for oil.
[01:19:42]  Yeah, it's got to be oil, right?
[01:19:45]  What else are they doing over there?
[01:19:46]  Well, I think it's a little bit about oil, but the later freedom byron.

=== Fighting For Israel Again (08:09) ===

[01:19:51]  Okay, I don't think that's it.
[01:19:53]  But I do want to say really quick: Iran does control the Strait of Hormutz, which controls about 20% of the global oil trade.
[01:20:00]  So it's oil.
[01:20:03]  Oh.
[01:20:05]  Well, they say it's not, so try again.
[01:20:08]  Sorry, I didn't mean to fuck that up.
[01:20:10]  But also, this whole regime change does kind of open up new energy arrangements, which is kind of cool.
[01:20:17]  Which is kind of the same as oil, is what I'm saying.
[01:20:20]  But also.
[01:20:21]  You need more oil, please.
[01:20:24]  Put it in my veins, brother.
[01:20:25]  I need to bang up that oil between my toes.
[01:20:29]  I'll say, also, I think this was a miscalculation, but I think that we, he probably thought we were going to get a rally around the flag kind of situation if we attack Iran and remove a leader who I would say I think most people would agree a bad guy, right?
[01:20:47]  Like, I think that Trump would have assumed that going to war and getting in and getting out quickly and cleanly would have been a way for him to save what's happening with the midterms and to cement a legacy as a, you know, he has done everything else.
[01:21:02]  Now he wants to be wartime president because he wants to be patent, right?
[01:21:05]  Like he wants his quick little patent cause place.
[01:21:08]  He waits three years.
[01:21:09]  Or three terms, I mean to say.
[01:21:11]  He does what that third term.
[01:21:12]  Yeah.
[01:21:13]  But he already had it, right?
[01:21:15]  Right.
[01:21:16]  Take it away from him.
[01:21:17]  They'll say that they would do it.
[01:21:19]  Now they're letting me do it.
[01:21:21]  I think that he wants that legacy, but I don't think that this is going to work out as cleanly as he thought.
[01:21:26]  I mean, the girls' school got blew up on day one.
[01:21:29]  Right.
[01:21:29]  And he's shit, been shit in his pants for years.
[01:21:33]  Yep, that's true.
[01:21:34]  He's got the dementia.
[01:21:36]  He's got all the bruises and all that stuff from the government.
[01:21:38]  I don't know that he's got seven years left.
[01:21:42]  I don't think so either.
[01:21:43]  As is.
[01:21:44]  Well, but also, like, all of this is not going well for him so far.
[01:21:50]  He may have done a strategic takeout of the leader, but there's already a succession plan in place.
[01:21:55]  It's not like suddenly this regime is going to be done and everyone's just going to raise American flags and say, hey, we love you and that you did this, which some people are.
[01:22:05]  And I do, again, I think the leadership of Iran was not good.
[01:22:09]  But is it truly our job to police the world and to kill a bunch of little girls at a school in the process?
[01:22:16]  I don't think so.
[01:22:17]  Seems like no.
[01:22:19]  And also, this is, again, clearly in alignment with Israel's goals, right?
[01:22:25]  This is all Netanyahu stuff.
[01:22:26]  And then, did I say, did I say oil?
[01:22:30]  But you didn't say it like this.
[01:22:32]  Oh.
[01:22:33]  Okay.
[01:22:34]  Now we're talking.
[01:22:35]  Now we're shooting guns in the air.
[01:22:38]  Great.
[01:22:39]  I don't know.
[01:22:39]  And again, I think this is attached to legacy for Trump.
[01:22:42]  He views this as accomplishing something Obama couldn't do.
[01:22:46]  Even though Obama did have the nuclear plan in place, and it seemed like we were kind of, everything was working out to a certain degree, right?
[01:22:53]  I don't know.
[01:22:54]  The enrichment, the enrichment of nuclear wasn't happening in weapons-grade fashion, and it seemed like nuclear.
[01:23:03]  Thank you.
[01:23:04]  I don't know.
[01:23:05]  I don't know much about foreign policy.
[01:23:08]  I don't know much about Iran.
[01:23:09]  And I think, by all accounts, like, yeah, they recently murdered 30,000 protesters.
[01:23:15]  That's unacceptable.
[01:23:17]  But the route that is going to be sustainable would have been communication, talking, something other than being this, a kickoff to 9-11-2, right?
[01:23:28]  That's what it feels like.
[01:23:29]  Yeah.
[01:23:30]  I mean, like, we have more incompetent actors trying to do the same thing.
[01:23:38]  We went in, we did a bunkabusta.
[01:23:41]  Yeah.
[01:23:41]  We nuked, we nuked their nuke program before they could even get it off the ground.
[01:23:47]  But now we're going to go back in there because they've been working on nukes somehow in six months or whatever.
[01:23:53]  That makes sense.
[01:23:54]  I think that makes sense.
[01:23:55]  Since we last said that.
[01:23:56]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:23:56]  And it's like, well, don't, you know, just because everyone has, like, in our government has a goldfish memory doesn't mean that everybody else in the real world does.
[01:24:07]  And if you, if you happen to, excuse me, if you happen to remember something and you bring something up, hey, this just happened like not that many weeks ago, 180 days prior to this conversation.
[01:24:20]  Didn't they do this other thing?
[01:24:22]  Whatever, you're being woke.
[01:24:24]  You don't know anything.
[01:24:25]  Democrats are going to be protesting Calamini next day or the death of Calamini.
[01:24:31]  America killed this guy.
[01:24:33]  It's like, they just hate freedom.
[01:24:35]  That's what the left hates.
[01:24:37]  They just hate freedom.
[01:24:38]  Man, like the curse of being able to have object permanence.
[01:24:46]  That's what we're going to be constantly up against for the rest of our lives.
[01:24:50]  Well, speaking of a permanent object, though, it does look like FIFA, the folks who created the FIFA Peace Prize, have now pledged $50 million to build a stadium in Gaza.
[01:25:03]  Oh, cool.
[01:25:03]  The Gaza children are going to love that, playing soccer.
[01:25:07]  Well, apparently they have legs and balance.
[01:25:11]  Oh, great.
[01:25:12]  It's like we honestly have calories to burn, right?
[01:25:15]  We want to be running up and down soccer fields all the time.
[01:25:18]  Thanks, Jared Kushner.
[01:25:20]  Thanks.
[01:25:20]  And our limbs are, we're not crippled from the sniper fire, right?
[01:25:23]  No, our spines are intact.
[01:25:25]  There's plenty of us still.
[01:25:27]  Horrifying.
[01:25:28]  We have dads to get us to soccer practice.
[01:25:32]  So that's just the beginning of the board of peace, you know, taking control and shaping what Palestine's going to look like in the future.
[01:25:39]  I fucking hate this.
[01:25:41]  Yeah, this shit sucks.
[01:25:42]  Well, Josh, of course, he's a veteran, so he might have some good things to say about all this, right?
[01:25:47]  Cool, I hope.
[01:25:47]  That argument when they say we're fighting for we're just doing this for Israel.
[01:25:51]  We're just fighting on behalf of Israel.
[01:25:53]  They called them Little Satan.
[01:25:54]  They called us Big Satan.
[01:25:55]  That's like if somebody called forget that.
[01:25:56]  It's like if somebody called Steven, you know, little f and called me big f ⁇ ing.
[01:26:01]  Yeah, I'd still want to fight that guy.
[01:26:02]  And it has nothing to do with Steven being a f.
[01:26:04]  No.
[01:26:05]  Well, Gerald did that this morning.
[01:26:06]  I did, yeah.
[01:26:07]  Yeah.
[01:26:07]  Did he, really?
[01:26:08]  Yeah, but he.
[01:26:08]  I didn't hear him say that.
[01:26:09]  No, but he's giant f, so it's okay.
[01:26:12]  Oh.
[01:26:12]  Oh.
[01:26:12]  Yeah.
[01:26:13]  I'm little f it.
[01:26:14]  I'm not big f ⁇ it.
[01:26:14]  He's giant.
[01:26:15]  How did that work?
[01:26:16]  Huh?
[01:26:16]  Huh.
[01:26:17]  Well, that's about all I can handle for this week, huh?
[01:26:21]  And Nick DePaulo is the, what would he be?
[01:26:27]  Like the Goldilocks F-Slayer.
[01:26:32]  Put a gun in my mouth.
[01:26:33]  Let me have a fucking trigger.
[01:26:35]  Just pull it.
[01:26:40]  All right.
[01:26:41]  Great.
[01:26:41]  What a mess.
[01:26:42]  If you disagree with us, reach out to us.
[01:26:44]  I hate these people.
[01:26:45]  Louderthancrowdergmail.com.
[01:26:46]  What a mess, huh?
[01:26:47]  So fucking thumb.
[01:26:48]  Next week is gonna suck.
[01:26:50]  Everything, everything sucks.
[01:26:52]  Like, and I know that we say that every week.
[01:26:55]  It just keeps getting worse.
[01:26:57]  Look, but if it's maybe if we do get Handsome Hamburger Party Part 2, maybe we can cover that instead of talking more about international war crimes.
[01:27:08]  Wouldn't it be cool?
[01:27:09]  Committed by a pedophile.
[01:27:10]  A cabal of pedophiles, honestly.
[01:27:12]  A whole group of them.
[01:27:13]  The world's run by billionaire pedophiles, and it's never been more clear.
[01:27:17]  But if we can get the women's soccer team to sit down and eat fish fillets, that would be kind of cool, right?
[01:27:22]  Oh, yeah, and it has to be fish because women don't eat red meat, remember?
[01:27:26]  That's exactly what happened.
[01:27:27]  Gotta watch their figures.
[01:27:29]  Dennis is back next week.
[01:27:30]  1950.
[01:27:31]  Maybe that'll help.
[01:27:32]  I am looking forward to Dennis being back.
[01:27:34]  I need, I need for his personal security, too.
[01:27:37]  I think he needs to not be abroad right now.
[01:27:40]  Yeah, we need, yeah, we need him back home, taking a couple more days off before he's got to get back to work.
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