Louder Than Crowder - EPISODE 81: QUIET QUITTING ICE (JANUARY 26TH, 27TH, & 29TH)

Feb. 5, 2026 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 81: QUIET QUITTING ICE (JANUARY 26TH, 27TH, & 29TH)

Back in the studio, the Boys run through the shocking street execution of Alex Pretti, and listen to Steven squirm, justifying his anti-2nd amendment, pro-Police State stance, as it evolves throughout the week. "THE BOYS" shirts are available NOW! Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Theme music by DJ Danarchy
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Sunday Surprise Call 00:04:09
	This is an AudioWool original.
	It is very, very easy to deceive you.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast louder with Crowder.
	My name is Byron.
	Across from me, for the first time in a bit, looking fit, it's Dennis.
	It was so good to hear that theme song again.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	Our loans.
	What?
	I just haven't listened to it in a long time.
	Why don't you listen to our show?
	It's available all platforms, all the time.
	Okay.
	And our lone star brother, holding it down in Occupied Texas, it's Jared.
	There he is.
	And I've returned from my peaceful silent meditation retreat a little bit east of the resistance.
	Anything happen?
	No, I mean, not really.
	Nick, surely we're not slipping further into violent authoritarian rule.
	Well, I was sitting cross-legged, like Stephen Crowder on the bar floor with a room temperature glass of milk, focusing on awareness of my natural breath, nasal respiration, observing sensations of inhalation and exhalation, and my thoughts without reacting or clinging.
	I couldn't help it.
	Something nagged inside me.
	Night four, I packed my bags, cleaned what had shifted to feeling more like a cell, and requested my cell phone back from a Faraday bag that they locked in an office.
	It was only day four that you left.
	Yes, sir.
	Three days later.
	I'm so glad you didn't do the whole thing because could you imagine me driving to go get you on Sunday?
	On a weekday?
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm saying because Texas froze.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	This last week.
	Three hours later.
	You might have been stuck there for who knows how long.
	Longer than that.
	Three hours later, enough time for me to question if I was, in fact, going to get my cell phone back or if I may have been in a sticky cult situation.
	I turned it on and was flooded by the world.
	I was back in and I had to let Jared immediately know it very early on on a Sunday morning.
	Woke him up.
	You didn't, actually.
	Okay.
	I woke up at 8.04 a.m. and I had not plugged my phone in.
	I fell asleep.
	At some point, I must have heard it buzzed on my pillow or something like that.
	Slowly came into the world and looked at it and I'm like, reading that you had text me and I was like, he's not supposed to have his phone.
	Well, yeah, I wasn't just sharing with you my enthusiastic desire to cover the shit reactions of folks like Steven Crowder.
	I called you because I needed a ride from a compound.
	I was stuck in the middle of nowhere and I really appreciate you.
	It sounds like you were awake, but you got the ding of a.
	Yeah, my phone's on silent all the time.
	So, but it's like maybe Buzz Buzz, you know, a little bug made me into existence.
	And then like, I looked at it.
	I saw your text on there.
	I'm adjusting my eyes to be like, what does this say?
	Ring, Hey, did you get my text?
	Well, I did.
	I was like, I did.
	I was on a dirt road in a farm 10 miles from a highway walking.
	Okay.
	Come on.
	Yeah, it rocks.
	No, it rocks.
	It was pretty cool.
	I was like, I guess it doesn't matter if it's this Sunday or next Sunday.
	Yeah.
	I mean, listen.
	I got stuck.
	There was a marathon happening in Austin.
	got stuck i i couldn't get out of my neighborhood for i had to like drive all the way downtown through the east side to like i'm like motherfucker goddamn fucking cult I walked to one town, whole town was closed down because of it's the Lord's Day.
	Yeah, and I was like, hmm, church just started.
Would You Be Surprised? 00:06:47
	I was like, maybe I should pop in and go say is that where the Prada thing was, or is that something else?
	Oh, that's something else entirely.
	I went on a bit of a journey after this because I did have a full week scheduled off.
	So we'll talk about that on a different program at a different time.
	All that aside, boy, did the boys have things to say about the execution of Alex Predi, much like they did after the murder of Renee Goode, which we didn't cover, but I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised.
	Would you be surprised to hear that they not only fully supported the shooting, but also much like the Epstein may or may not have killed himself live stream, or in the case of Michael Brown's death when they kneeled on Steven's neck.
	Who played who?
	Well, you'll have to we'll have to cover that at some point in detail.
	They went out to the parking lot of their office to film a reenactment.
	They filmed a reenactment of Alex Predi as well.
	Well, we'll get to that.
	I mean, I saw the reenactment of Renee Good where he was pointing a gun at one of his employees.
	Yeah, he was.
	That's true.
	It's not, it's kind of dangerous working.
	Yes, it is dangerous.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He literally points guns at you.
	Cool stuff.
	It's not loaded.
	It's got laser in it.
	And it was one of his smallest guns.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If you die from this one, you deserve it.
	Today, you're a bitch.
	Today, we'll be covering a really awful practice trigger safety.
	Oh, no, no.
	Moments from three shows, actually.
	Monday, January 26th, I shot Alex Predi, and that was always the plan.
	Tuesday, January 27th episode: Is Trump backing down or doubling down in Minnesota?
	And today's episode, Thursday, January 29th, new video and new maps.
	Why both are boning Democrats?
	I'm ready to get boned.
	We're not talking about the map stuff.
	Let's lube me up and get me boned.
	Excuse me.
	I don't know.
	Let's jump right in with a sip and I think a burp.
	Nice.
	Glad to be with you.
	I see all the leering faces.
	Why leer?
	I feel like I'm in a room filled with grown-ups who are hoping for a snow day.
	We already had two.
	They asked me, I was like, hey, you know, do you want to run?
	We pre-take the Nash Wednesday with Jake the Rattlesnake.
	That'll go up at some point.
	I said, no, just and I'll just do my thing like I used to do if I have to, because you guys may not notice I have a surgery that I have to do in the spring, and I don't want to do it on my summer break.
	So I'm like, I just can't take that many sick days, so I'll do it.
	And then you guys all showed up.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate it.
	But there's no bonus in it for you.
	Who the hell is Jake the Rattlesnake?
	Is it the one from the movie?
	Like Rango?
	The character from the feature film Rango?
	I don't remember.
	Does this thing come out yet?
	Didn't Rango get canceled?
	They said a lot here.
	They were talking about having this banked content for their Ash Wednesday episode.
	Okay.
	They don't want to burn that too soon.
	Yeah, of course.
	Steven's got this surgery, and it is his show.
	And they're not on some sort of daily wire contract.
	Steven, you can take as much time off as you'd like.
	No one's going to be too upset about it.
	There's no rules, but he's going to force his employees to show up to work.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you're right, Jared.
	I did kind of dodge that cold front, huh?
	You really did.
	I'm telling you.
	The streets were not great.
	They were not great.
	I'm going to sound old for a minute.
	Yeah.
	The weather is crazy here.
	Well, just because it's 50 degrees here, so I must be somewhere south.
	Sure, of course.
	You know, clearly.
	All right.
	Yeah, no, but it is strange.
	We just don't have the infrastructure for it.
	Actually, talk about it a little bit on this episode.
	That's it.
	Yeah, they don't agree there.
	Yep.
	I'm with you, dude.
	No one needs to give birth on the interstate.
	The strangest thing, though, is I just want to point out that Steven went from one show a day to two shows a day during COVID, and he had his entire crew come to work every day.
	But he doesn't want to risk it during this ice storm, of course.
	No, of course not.
	No masks.
	Who else is here, though?
	And what kind of inconvenience happened to them?
	I want an ice bonus.
	No one can take that.
	Well, you can write yourself a bonus, Mr. CEO.
	Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?
	I'm well.
	How are you?
	Good.
	Your gate froze?
	Yeah.
	So you got frozen in?
	I had to do some work.
	Yeah, this was not supposed to be this long, and now it's going to be going into tomorrow.
	So we're in the southwest.
	Where are you guys?
	What's the weather like for you?
	So it's just a few people here in the office today.
	Do a quick old ding right back out.
	Who is in the office?
	Tim's there.
	Gerald's there.
	Fuck Nick.
	I'm not sure if Billy the Kid is there.
	Let's see.
	Kurd Dergler.
	What's that guy doing?
	He's a raw milk guy.
	Kurd.
	Did you just hire a guy explicitly because of his interests?
	Yeah, you seem like a good guy to have around.
	He seems like he's one of us, probably.
	Can you throw another potato in the microwave?
	Please warm that up next to the milk, please.
	All right.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, the whole fence thing or the gate.
	Is it private gate?
	I don't know.
	He's probably just afraid of protesters.
	He's out there with his little gun and his little wrangling sweater.
	Yeah, you know that picture of the polo guy and his wife with the gun?
	Ah, yes, of course.
	Can someone, our subreddit, please put Steve and Gerald on?
	Thanks for pointing that out.
	I always forget to say we have a Reddit.
	Is it R slash Louder Than Crowder?
	We don't run it.
	We don't run it the other way.
	I think I should definitely go check it out.
	Yeah.
	What's on the docket today?
	I want to talk about Minnesota.
	Obviously, I was watching this unfold this weekend.
	And none of this is good, and I think that everyone could be handling it better, but I want to be quick.
	That's not a cop-out.
	Like, some people are saying, well, this is bad.
	We have to stop the deportations.
	Absolutely.
	Not more.
	We need to up them.
	But I think there's a way that we can do it where the American public won't be swayed by these extremists who want to martyr themselves.
	Let's be clear.
	That's what's going on.
	Oh, suicide protesters.
	They just want to be killed in the streets.
	Yeah, they love guns.
	I don't expect much from Steven.
	No.
	He's a piece of shit.
	It's a cop-out.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think it's kind of getting a little out of hand.
	I don't want to be.
	It's not a cop-out or anything.
	I think they should keep killing.
	Yeah, let's do more killing of the martyrs.
	They need to rile them up better so it looks more justified.
	That's all.
	Of course.
	The real shame is that the protesters are wising up and not being so violent themselves.
	We're going to ban whistles.
	What we got to do is ban the name.
	You'd be surprised how much they actually do want to ban whistles.
	And yeah, are you ready for the point of today's show?
	I want to honk corns at them.
	But if they honk at me, I'm putting damn gun in your mouth.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Steve's going to tell us all about it.
Pass Ganja, Double Salutes! 00:03:27
	But not before we take a second to thank some folks who are supporting us over at Shrug.club.
	Hello, Shrug Nation.
	You've entered the Shrug Suish.
	The home of all things too hot for the RSS feed, which, of course, both hands to your foreheads, folks.
	Double salute.
	Oh, yeah, double salutes, baby.
	Shrug Club exclusives, like an investigation into the stand-up career of.
	Exactly.
	We went undercover.
	I mean, we didn't want to get it.
	Someone dead.
	I was there, though.
	Yeah, it's crazy that you were there.
	We had another episode of that that's going to be going live or already has over at Shrug.club.
	I think it's episode three of Steven's.
	It's when he finally gets funny.
	Well, not so sure.
	It took a couple episodes to warm up, but now he's.
	This guy's hilarious.
	He's a regular Jim Gaff again.
	Oh, what a guy.
	Yeah.
	What else is there?
	Josh's belly, and also Josh's stand-up is after that.
	We do have a.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	A recording of that that we acquired as well.
	All for free, always will be, but some folks choose to give us, I've done them all.
	Gumpton currency monetarily cut us off some cheese.
	Cut the cheese.
	Put the scrilla right in here.
	Some cheddar.
	Cheddar.
	That's what it is.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, we're working.
	They pass the cheddar.
	Listen, guys.
	It's been a bit since we've been back.
	Fart for us.
	Jennifer M. Jennifer M. Thank you so much, Jennifer M. What a piece of shit.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, jeez.
	And this might be one of the cooler names we've gotten in a while.
	This is Ganja Glenn.
	Oh, hell yeah, Ganja Glenn.
	Can we look at some reggae for him?
	I don't have.
	You don't have any reggae?
	No, but I do know a guy who likes Ska, and that would be this guy.
	What a piece of shit.
	Pass it over here.
	Okay.
	Pass it over here, Ganja Glenn.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	And I do.
	It's Ganja.
	No.
	Pass it over here.
	How's the posse?
	Back to you.
	No, no.
	I think someone else just came in.
	His wife, Cheryl, let him out of the house, let him off the leash.
	Pass that over here, then, Ganja Glenn.
	Let me get that right back from you.
	It's organic!
	That's the good shit right there.
	That cough was insane.
	And L2, yeah.
	Man, a piece of shit.
	Wonderful.
	Oh, I forgot to say Glenn is a chowdhead.
	A chowder head.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Pass a bowl over here, too.
	Pass a bowl of the creamy goodness.
	Okay, no.
	I think that.
	I need to explain what a chowdhead is, really quick.
	Yes.
	That's the $10 support level over at Shark.club, and all the folks who become chowder heads get a mug.
	Mugs are shipping soon.
	And that's why Jared did such a great job with that acting.
	I mean, sorry, that is why we had all those guests for him.
Chowdheads and Creamy Goodness 00:12:02
	There we go.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We brought all those people on for chowder heads.
	He really put me to the test.
	I might have farted out.
	Just a smaller apartment.
	It's hard to get back to.
	My neighbor's doing homework upstairs.
	If you like what we're doing and want to support us financially so we can do more and be better for everyone, visit Shrug.club.
	Join Shrug Nation.
	Be a Shrug clubber.
	Be a chowdhead.
	Uh-oh.
	Also, be a piece of shit.
	Oh, my God.
	Let me get another one of them.
	All right.
	So back to where Stephen thinks we found ourselves as a country.
	Here's sort of the point in history where we find ourselves.
	Everyone knows that we have to do something about illegal immigration, about illegal aliens.
	People, by and large, agree with that.
	And across pretty much all races.
	You see more men who support deportation than women, but there's no surprise there.
	So we know that something has to be done.
	But people haven't really thought through what that looks like.
	And unfortunately, this sort of toxic sympathy, empathy, has been used against us.
	There are plenty of countries across the world, and I think that many Americans don't know this.
	You are jailed.
	You're put in jail if you are known to be an illegal alien.
	Did you guys know that?
	Not to mention legal immigrants and plenty of other countries, they are not afforded the same rights as immigrants are afforded here.
	They aren't afforded the same rights as citizens in their countries.
	For example, in Mexico, you can't show up at a protest.
	You can't own waterfront property, though, if you grease the right palms because it's Mexico.
	It's corrupt.
	We all know that.
	We have been very, very relaxed here in the United States, and it's become a problem.
	Since when do we care what other countries do?
	Listen up, okay?
	We are not as cool as Mexico will ever be.
	Well, because they do mean, harsh things towards immigrants.
	Well, they do do that, and that is cool.
	That is cool.
	However, I think this is a weird contradictory thing for Stephen to believe and say a lot.
	Someone will talk to me about Japan.
	Did you know Japan is racism?
	Okay, I'm like, all right.
	That's a bad thing.
	That's also a bad thing.
	Yeah, I don't live.
	to be doing right and it's so strange that like I don't and there's so many folks who will use the law as the basis of what is right and wrong It's just not the case.
	They should match, but they don't.
	That's why it's an ever, ever-changing kind of thing.
	Do you want to be better than Mexico, Stephen?
	Cool.
	Then you shouldn't say that.
	Exceptional?
	That's like the whole kind of thing, right?
	Yeah.
	So why are we looking to them to be like, we should be more harsh?
	That's right.
	What the hell?
	That's got to be on the board.
	It's very good.
	So, yeah.
	Dumb take.
	And also, yeah.
	Stupid fucking take.
	Yeah, I mean, here's, it's just one of those things where like you're comparing yourself to the worst stuff.
	That's it.
	It just doesn't make sense.
	It's like if Steven was like, well, your last husband beat you physically.
	Okay, sure.
	Well, I just, I mean, it's also interesting.
	You know, he's pulling up all these old polls in support of deportation or saying that it's a problem.
	But yeah, I mean, America is seeing more frequently that the Trump administration's approach to immigration is too harsh.
	Also, like, as evidenced by the protests in Minneapolis this last week, I mean, like, there's like 100,000 people around the world.
	It's a lot of folks out in the street.
	And it's like, shut up.
	What are you talking about?
	The crazy thing is, Bank of America had a huge line out the door of all these people cashing checks, right?
	All these paid protests.
	That's the hardest part.
	Yeah, all of our cash them.
	You got to get cashiers' checks, signposts.
	Comrades, and that's what they were.
	They don't pay taxes on it.
	You just have to pick up your cash.
	They have a cash van.
	Oh.
	Like, you know, Cash Cab?
	Yeah.
	That's actually how you're paying.
	But you don't have to ask questions.
	No, they just.
	Didn't Cash Cab hit a guy or something?
	Oh, my God.
	I don't know.
	Did that guy shoot Cash Cab?
	Okay.
	So we got a survey.
	Pew Research says that 53% said it was too much.
	36% said just the right amount of shots.
	And then 10% were sickos and said it was too little.
	Give me more.
	need more uh deportations in this exact same way so well i love about this particular i don't i don't love anything right now so yeah it's all pretty bad yeah Yeah, things are not good.
	What I see a lot is people saying things like, did you know that Obama gave Holman a medal?
	Did you know that Obama deported a bunch of people?
	We'll talk about that.
	Why now?
	Why now?
	It's a difference in technique.
	And also, I can also say that Trump.
	But it's the same guy running it.
	Okay.
	I can also say Obama's not.
	I didn't like it.
	Great.
	I didn't like it.
	Yeah, we all agree.
	You can't even bring up that fact without saying that you think what he did is bad.
	Do you think what Obama did was bad?
	Is that what you're saying?
	I can't say that.
	What are you saying?
	I remember Libbs used to say, well, he didn't separate families.
	Do you remember that?
	I do.
	And I think that that was a pre-political B time.
	The optics, I would hope that people could see things objectively and call things out when they're not.
	Like Joe Biden's perfect performance.
	Do you exactly?
	Joe Biden was the best.
	But do you have to really, like, the first time something happens, you have to pick sides right then?
	Like, you can't have a change of heart, and you can't, like, grow and be like, wow, this is really helping me realize how bad this is.
	It's weakness, Dennis.
	Actually, now that I've sat with this guy for like 10 years now, and then I'm seeing regular Americans, guys who like probably helped me out at the clinic that I had to go to when I broke my thumb.
	Get shot in the fucking head.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if I like that.
	Oh, that guy helped me with my lung disease from burning garbage.
	Well, we're going to talk all about Alex.
	Jesus Christ.
	I'm going to walk you through.
	Just yesterday, a YouGov poll showed that a significant portion of people believe that illegal immigration is a serious problem.
	62% among white people, 52% among black.
	It's still 50% among Hispanics.
	And then it's 60% of men, 56% of women overall.
	Okay.
	So we know something needs to be done.
	And we also saw those polls not that long ago where people supported deporting folks who are here illegally.
	Got it.
	It is a problem, though.
	Undocumented immigration.
	It is a problem.
	Maybe that's what the poll is stating.
	Well, and here's the thing is that most people would agree that there should be a path of citizenship.
	Of course, the answer is it's not always deportation.
	At least.
	No, I think the poll said, hey, would you rather we open up the borders and let everyone live here?
	Yep.
	Or would you rather just kill everybody?
	And most men said, kill everybody.
	Kill everybody.
	You have to have some nuance to this conversation.
	Somebody overstaying a visa is very different than someone who is bad or serious crime.
	Sending the crime, sending the drugs.
	It's a different experience, right?
	You can't act like somebody overstaying their visa is as bad as an actual violent criminal.
	They're just not.
	Most people agree, 80 to 97% of poll support for people who commit violent, serious, bad crimes that they should leave.
	And I'm fine with that.
	Yeah.
	I think that most scary criminals should not be around here.
	Yeah.
	I remember in this, they make the point about like they won't let them go to prison.
	And I guess this is like a point where I'm like, well, I guess I didn't know that about that.
	I've got some details of that.
	Yeah, give me the details when we get there.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	There's just you learn new details, and I'm not trying to dispute what he's saying because I don't know anything about it.
	He's a liar, though.
	Oh, okay.
	He's a liar.
	He's fully.
	Fuck, every time I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
	Yeah, he's not.
	Give the olive branch.
	I heard that if someone who is undocumented, if they get arrested for a crime, the police actually scan them for like a barcode, and then it goes, person does not exist, and they have to let them go.
	Yeah, that is how they are.
	Yeah, they're fully undocumented.
	They're ghost people.
	It's kind of scary.
	It's kind of scary, right?
	Yeah, I think we should get rid of the ghosts.
	Especially considering they all came from insane asylums.
	Yeah, they all came from insane asylum.
	Yeah, wow.
	I was about to say that's insane.
	I think it's crazy we have an insane asylum policy.
	As for nonviolent offenders, it's kind of a wild partisan split.
	Republicans largely support mass deportation.
	It varies though in different polls.
	61 to 85% support.
	Democrats oppose mass deportation and pathway to legal status, which I think a Quinnipiac poll said 89%, which makes sense to me, right?
	I've heard so many Republicans tell me that I'm okay with legal immigration.
	And then they are okay with 17-year-old kids getting dragged out of Target.
	Yeah.
	And didn't they say that they like crushed his testicles?
	I didn't hear that they fucking jackass fived him.
	That sucks.
	Yeah, I did hear Chris Pontius' ice now.
	That's slander.
	That's not it.
	Come on.
	If anyone would be, it would be Don Vito.
	Well, rest in peace, of course.
	Because he was a pedophile.
	Yeah, he did honk some tits at a local mall.
	It's not great.
	All right.
	All that aside, we've got a lot of clips to get to.
	What's the game plan, Stephen?
	Tell me.
	So what has been the left's game plan?
	Wait, what's my game plan?
	This was the winningest issue of the election.
	They have been caught flat-footed.
	And now, of course, the goalposts have moved.
	I'll tell you exactly what it is that they do.
	They lie.
	Okay.
	They lie and obfuscate.
	They'll tell you that illegal immigrants are more law-abiding than legal citizens.
	That's not true.
	Let's keep this in mind.
	First, how was the goalpost moved?
	I feel like this is not the first time he's said this in the past couple episodes.
	This is Steven's new gaslighting chain game buzzword.
	That's what he's all about.
	Now it's about moving goalposts.
	Yeah.
	It's football season.
	About to end.
	Yeah.
	He's about to not watch the Super Bowl.
	No, dude, bad bunny, fuck that.
	Do you remember the Dolly Parton episode I did?
	No.
	Was it Dolly Parton's gun buyback program?
	It was an early episode.
	Oh, I bet you remember that.
	That was a lot of fun.
	Maybe it was Reba.
	I bet it was Reba.
	I think it was Reba actually.
	Yeah, he was Reba 3.
	It was Reba.
	Second, I don't know what he's talking about.
	A 150-year national study of incarceration found that immigrants have had lower incarceration rates than U.S.-born citizens since at least 1870.
	And today, it's about 60% less likely these folks are to be incarcerated, which is 30% less than U.S.-born whites.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, but I'm not done here.
	Oh, really?
	2020 proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study, using Texas arrest data, which, of course, is the state that has, I think, 10 times more illegal immigrants than the state of Minnesota, which is weird.
	At least it's weird that they're not in Texas because, I mean, it's not like they're just a, I mean, they're.
	Well, they were a purple state.
	Now they're a red state.
	And they seem to have really high numbers of.
	Yeah, that's because they're shipping in immigrants to vote red.
	Okay, well, that makes sense then.
	This is dogs.
	Okay.
	And they're eating the cats by.
	Dogs, hot dogs.
	How do you guys feel about a coffee hot dog stand called The Busy Glizzy?
	It could work.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	2012 to 2018.
	Do you want to know my hot dog stands called?
	Yes, please, actually.
	It's called City Dogs.
	And it's different cities' signature hot dogs.
	Each dog, like a Chicago dog.
	Don't nobody take that.
Dogs and Aggressivity 00:05:30
	That's mine.
	City dogs.
	They found that undocumented immigrants have the lowest felony rates of all groups.
	U.S.-born citizens are two times more likely to be arrested.
	Yeah, they're ghosts.
	You can't put handcuffs on ghosts.
	2.5 times more likely for drug charges.
	That's, again, that's U.S.-born citizens.
	And four U.S.-born citizens are four times more likely to commit property crime than undocumented immigrants.
	So there's the Migration Policy Institute, a 2024 American Immigration Council fact sheet.
	It goes on and on.
	But yeah, wait, I guess if Stephen just wants to say that's not true without providing references.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I believe it.
	Why not?
	I mean, my gut tells me otherwise.
	Well, your gut and your eyes.
	Yeah, I can see it.
	Okay.
	They will tell you that illegal immigration isn't a problem.
	That's not true.
	They'll tell you that Joe Biden or Barack Obama deported more illegal immigrants than Donald Trump.
	That's not true.
	Brother, did Lane the Brain call in for this snow day?
	Because I don't know.
	This isn't like a cool competition, but yeah, Obama over his first two terms did deport significantly more people than Donald Trump's first administration.
	It's funny, is he saying that we would tell him that?
	No, I mean.
	People on the right tell me that all the time.
	And I go, yeah, that is a fucking bad thing that Obama did.
	Yeah.
	I like the way he talks to me and the way he looks, but he tricked me a lot.
	He became president when I was like 20 years old.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm only 19.
	That's true.
	Good point.
	I never had Obama as a president when I was an adult.
	Yeah, I don't know who that is.
	Who?
	Also, Joe Biden's first term also deported more than Trump's first term when you look at formal deportations alone.
	Yeah, but Trump's ICE has already killed more people than Barack Obama's ICE.
	That's the big difference here.
	So Obama, during his two terms, recorded 56 people or something.
	I don't have the murder stats.
	I know he's a very good person.
	Do you think that's what Tim Walz told him on that phone call?
	He's like, listen, man, if you get any more bodies on your hand, they're going to be able to hold that over your head that Obama had less bodies on the second.
	You want to really kind of mitigate that or hide some.
	So Obama recorded 3.1 million deportations in eight years.
	His biggest year, 2012, had 400,000 removals.
	Wow.
	Trump's first administration carried out fewer than what is this?
	Ooh, 932,000 deportations with a peak 2019 of 269.
	Why didn't he deport them all back then?
	Well, because, of course.
	Well, Joe Biden let him all back.
	I was going to say, you forgot.
	That's what it was.
	You forgot to recognize that Biden led in an invasion's worth of murderers and rapists from insane.
	Do you remember that Barack gave them all guns first, though?
	I remember that.
	He's kind of a Bane character, right?
	I'm kind of a Bane.
	And also, I do want to just, someone pointed out this to me, and it's really stuck with me, that Trump may not understand what asylum means.
	He doesn't.
	No, at all.
	Well, no, that's where the Joker is in Gotham, dude.
	Come on.
	So he thinks that asylum seekers are like insane asylum seekers?
	Yeah, I honestly think so.
	Yeah, they got out of the freaking holding cell, singular.
	Somebody, you heard like a broken dog.
	The big truck hit side of the building, and then they like, they pull, they ran in the hench guy, the henchmans.
	They ran in.
	They had all these guys like.
	Tony henchmen.
	Yeah, all the Tony Henchmans.
	And then they go in there and they grab with the hooks.
	And they put the hooks on all the doors and then big truck just fucking drive out of there quick, dude.
	And it pulls all the doors off the freaking asylum.
	Now the inmates are running the damn place.
	And so Mexico border, it's been infiltrated by Big Truck.
	Big Truck has to go down.
	We got to get rid of all these damn trucks.
	So listen, I guess that Trump's enforcement has been different, been a little bit more aggressive, targeting non-serious criminal offenders and people who have been here for like years, decades, raiding their places of work with no concern for family separation.
	Yeah, or pulling a guy out of his home in his underwear.
	More than one.
	So earlier I mentioned this a little bit about Barack Obama's history.
	Yeah.
	And apparently something like 56 people died in ICE custody during Obama's entire term.
	Look it up.
	That's what I saw on a TikTok reel.
	May or may not be.
	And something like 38 people have died in like the first month of battle.
	Maybe it's his whole 10 years so far or term.
	But still, right now it's being applied aggressively.
	It's being applied with political gain.
	Pam Bondi said, well, leave if you give us the voter rolls.
	Why?
	Why would she do that if it really was a security issue?
	She wouldn't.
	You thought that they just went inside Fulton County in Georgia.
	So we know exactly what they all want is the voter rolls.
	They say 56, according to FOIA obtained documents.
	Oh, nice.
	FOIA, baby.
	All right.
	So what else am I up to, I guess?
	I don't know.
	Then step two is they'll obstruct.
	They'll impede officers from doing their jobs.
	Then step three is increase aggression.
	They will increase aggressivity as needed so that they can reach the final step, which is make martyrs, either of themselves or of useful pawns.
Paranoid Proposal 00:02:24
	Listen, is aggressivity?
	Aggressivity.
	Aggression?
	It can't be a word.
	Hey, Siri, is aggressivity a word?
	Yes.
	Aggressivity is a word.
	It is a noun.
	Okay.
	Fucking egg on your face.
	Egg on my face.
	Yeah, it is the quality, dude.
	Sounds like kind of a protest, though.
	Not the martyr pawn part, but like the rest is like you're not supposed to make people feel comfortable at a protest.
	Yeah, that's the whole point.
	You're supposed to feel comfortable.
	And it's not all just about like signs with words that people on the opposing side aren't going to read, right?
	Like sometimes you got to be loud.
	Sometimes you got to be in the crowd and you're holding up a sign that says, Vince sucks.
	And I'm looking at that sign.
	I'm thinking, that's my friend Vince.
	You don't talk about him like that.
	And you look, you pan down.
	It's Dan Bongino's face holding.
	No!
	Oh, fuck.
	Dan Bongino.
	The asylum!
	Dan Bonvino, too.
	How come we don't have to do that?
	Dan Bonvino?
	He's just been sitting there.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So our guy had another long, sleepless weekend.
	And I do want to say, anyone who listened to Andrew Wilson on Joe Rogan, Bloodsports Debater, did point out, I guess, let slip that Steven feels responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk.
	He doesn't.
	I think he told Andrew that.
	He's bragging about how he started what happened.
	I think he may have said that, and that may be how Andrew was trying to talk about it.
	But I think Stephen, because in the weeks following Charlie Kirk's assassination, I mean, he was not doing well, right?
	Yeah, I don't believe that he truly believes that he ever fault, though.
	We talked about how he felt about this before.
	He felt ripped off.
	Yeah, he felt like he was jealous of the attention Charlie was getting was the vibe I got from it.
	I don't know.
	I mean, he tried to take credit for the fact that Charlie.
	Hey, but let's be clear.
	I started this.
	This is something that I did.
	I just thought that that was interesting.
	That was the tone that I got out of it.
	I just thought that that was interesting because I do know that it did seem as if he had been up all night in the corner of a room because he wanted to keep all eyes on doors and windows, right?
	He's definitely has mentioned his paranoia several times since then.
	Well, speaking of paranoia.
	Do you remember when he did those glamour shots at the university putting on the bulletproof vest?
One Month Later 00:14:56
	Bulletproof vest.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like when they showed that, he was really like, and we have seen a lot of danger.
	And he mentions it in this episode as well.
	He does.
	Yeah.
	Mostly, though, his paranoia produced a first draft feeling proposal that would solve this whole damn thing.
	Oh.
	I hope you're ready.
	I am going to propose to you what I think needs to be done or what should have been done from the outset.
	I completely support deporting illegal aliens and not just violent criminals, though they should get priority.
	There should be a State of the Union address.
	There should be an address from the White House, Donald Trump.
	He should have done this in the outset and said, look.
	What do you think his...
	Oh, fuck.
	I don't know.
	I guess I have a button over here that I'm.
	Just Lee.
	Back your bags.
	We'll get you anyway.
	What should the plan be, Dennis?
	Gosh, what do you think?
	State of the Union address, what should be said?
	He should ban all Democrats from existing in the United States.
	That's a pretty good call.
	It's kind of close, not really.
	He's going to ask someone to squirt Ilhan Omar with apple cider fine.
	We're going to give everyone one month.
	Okay?
	Illegal aliens.
	So the first step.
	We're going to give you all one month to sell your stuff in your house, get your affairs in order.
	And everyone out there, this is, by the way, still available, but a lot of people don't know it.
	Everyone out there who's here illegally, you can self-deport if you don't have a criminal record on the CBP1 app.
	Okay, you can go there.
	You can register.
	You can self-deport.
	The civil penalties will be wiped.
	We'll pay for your flight $2,600.
	That is what is available right now.
	$2,600.
	And you can attempt to come back through the legal channels as everyone else.
	Okay?
	They should have said that on the outset to make sure that everybody knows.
	The reason I say this is because I have walked through this.
	You can go to the Change My Minds.
	I've had conversations with people where they will say, well, I agree.
	We need to do something.
	We need to do something, but it just doesn't look good.
	Okay, so we need to do something about this.
	You just don't like the way we're going about it.
	You can walk people down this path.
	Try this.
	And we'll have to go.
	Okay.
	How condescending.
	Yeah.
	To assume that, oh, $2,600 and or a plane ticket.
	I'm not sure if the ticket comes out of the market your entire life.
	Yeah, Facebook market your entire life.
	Can you imagine the month where all of the illegals, quote unquote, leave?
	How fucking sick, like, deals you could get, right?
	How many deals you could get on stuff?
	Oh, no.
	Fucking twisted.
	I'm getting all kinds of grills and, I don't know, trucks, I guess.
	Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.
	Some cars in there.
	Sedans mostly.
	Oh, my God.
	It'd be such a great deal.
	That's what I'm looking for.
	To assume that this is some sort of massive windfall worthy of leaving your established life behind.
	You have one month, 30 days to go home to a place that may or may not.
	Just evict everybody.
	Even be like your home?
	There's people who don't even know, like, they've never lived in that place before, like children.
	Yeah, I don't know the language.
	And also, what happens if after a month they just don't do it?
	I'm not talking about immigration.
	I'm talking about something else.
	We know exactly what comes next.
	Hey, you guys, I get that you're scared.
	Self-deport.
	Here's an app where you can do it.
	There'll be no civil penalties.
	And we'll pay for your flight.
	Maybe even give you $1,000 or a couple thousand dollars.
	You can come back the legal way.
	Every single time I've said that, people have either said, sure, that's reasonable, or even leftists have said, well, we're not even necessarily, but you don't have to give them money, but yeah, just make it easy.
	Okay, great.
	We're doing that.
	Nobody's saying that to you, Stephen.
	No one's going, oh, that's a great idea.
	I've contributed to this and I've made it easy.
	We're doing that.
	But also, you know, you need to give them money.
	Yeah, I've talked to a lot of guys.
	They're just like, don't even give them money.
	Like, leftists don't really care about this issue at all.
	It's more about just like, don't give them money and then give them an easy way out of here.
	Like, leftists want them to leave.
	That's kind of what I'm trying to say here.
	Of course.
	Well, but Dennis, you asked the question, what if they don't leave, right?
	Well, I wasn't talking about immigration.
	I was saying, what happens if the law says something needs to be out in a month and then it doesn't come out in a month?
	I see what you're doing.
	I know exactly what you're doing.
	I'm talking about a set of files.
	Oh?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Oh.
	I imagine.
	So I figured, you know, I mean, if Trump's going to disobey the law and not leave in a month, why would the immigrants leave in a month?
	We'll send them all back when you give us the Epstein files.
	That's the bargain.
	I mean, I really want to know what's in them.
	Okay.
	Unredacted, I guess.
	That's, I don't know.
	I don't know if that's worth it.
	I don't know, man.
	No, it's clearly worth it.
	This is like a would you rather?
	No, I wouldn't.
	I do want to separate a ton of families just so I have this sense of validation.
	Donald Trump's a pedophile.
	Could you imagine Tom Holman showing up at your door and just being like, hell, I'm a human bulldog.
	Smarble mouth fucking guy just telling you that like, listen, we'll give you the Epstein files on reading.
	You're giving me the MC Prouds and we don't.
	Exceeds, all immigrants must leave the country.
	Now I'm over here.
	That's Medal of Honor winner Tom or whatever.
	What did he win?
	He has some medal from Obama.
	I'm not sure.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, it's probably the Peace Prize or some shit.
	FIFA Peace Prize.
	Everyone's been informed that they could use an app and get $2,600.
	You know what?
	They also use that app to handle illegal immigration status.
	Oh, yeah.
	So Liam Ramos, I think.
	His father was using that app to apply for the filing process.
	So yeah, the app exists.
	And why don't you encourage people to do that so they just get legal status?
	That could be cool.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I think the real thing is that we advocate for reforming how to get legal status.
	None of these people are talking about that.
	I don't think there's enough talk about that, period.
	Shut up.
	They don't want it to be easy, bro.
	That's it.
	I just want them out so I can get the Epstein files.
	One for one.
	We'll go ahead and give me the Epstein Prize.
	What do we do with the two immigrants?
	We also, you give us 3.0.
	Here's what I'm thinking.
	Here's what I'm thinking.
	I'm thinking it's like a booster pack thing.
	Like for every immigrant that leaves, you get like an Epstein files booster pack.
	Sure.
	And you're like, well, what did I get?
	I got a holographic.
	A holographic Les Wexner?
	They would totally overprint that shit and we worth nothing.
	They would overprint it.
	There'd be so many holographic Bill Clintons.
	Go Hasbro themselves.
	We've got a Dart Clinton.
	It's an alt art.
	This is crazy.
	Wow, I got a Hunter Biden doing Coke.
	We got to take all of our business ideas out of this because this is sick.
	That's a pretty good one.
	I do like it.
	So what do we do with the people who don't?
	What do we do with the people who are not self-deporting?
	They have all been notified.
	Here's the issue.
	Those who are here illegally know about this.
	A lot of the American people don't.
	And those in Antifa, those who act as professional agitators, they are banking on you not knowing.
	So this administration needs to do state of the union address, address the nation.
	All right, here's the here are the terms, the CBP1 app, $2,600 for anyone who registers self-deports.
	We're going to give everybody one month now, every illegal alien in this country, one month to get your affairs in order.
	Do it.
	And during that period of time, we are only going to go after the illegal aliens in prisons.
	Okay?
	So we're not going to go after anyone in the street, but we are going to go into the federal and state prisons where they are housing illegal aliens, and we're going to deport them first.
	The reason that's important is you arrest any governor or mayor who doesn't allow you to go into the prisons to deport people.
	So everyone knows about this?
	Why would a state of the union help?
	Who the fuck watches a state of the union except for people like us?
	Ladies and gentlemen, you think this evening I'm announcing one month.
	What do they call it?
	Project.
	I want to say project one month.
	30 days of.
	Sorry, I was looking at something else because I have an idea.
	The one month, he has one month, and we need an operation name for the one month.
	Abrogation Wes Wexner.
	Alright, we're going to...
	I love Tom Holman's voice.
	I do love Tom Holman as a character.
	He is great.
	More important to arrest the governor than, I guess, your initial stated goal, though.
	That's kind of interesting.
	Because, I mean, Greg Abbott's not going to be.
	They're the only ones that are going to be doing this whole sanctuary city business.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Do you know what those are?
	You know what sanctuary cities are?
	I do know a little bit of them.
	Yeah, they get millions of dollars for being there.
	Oh, my God.
	That's important so that the American public understands.
	It's not about anchor babies.
	It's not about dreamers.
	A lot of Americans right now don't know that ICE is not being allowed in prisons to deport people who are violent felons.
	That's the first thing you do.
	Because it lays the groundwork for the next after one month.
	Now we're going after everyone who is not self-deported, and we are going to arrest any governor or mayor who is still trying to play the Sanctuary City game.
	Okay?
	One month, self-deport, $2,600.
	We're just going into the prisons.
	Anyone who stops us from deporting prisoners who are here illegally arrested after one month, we're going after everyone who remains with a priority on criminals, and we are arresting anyone who flagrantly disregards federal law.
	You'll still have protesters, but the American public will know where we all stand.
	Does that make sense?
	Comment below if you think that's a reasonable plan.
	I'm going to say no, Ding.
	This is some like middle school, then my gun has a bigger gun with a laser sight.
	Kind of talking.
	Who might just have to be a dad?
	My dad could beat up your dad.
	You are not coming up with a great idea, Steven.
	So he's said that ICE won't go in.
	Well, and I'll explain though.
	Did you know that the police don't go in and arrest people who are already arrested?
	That's not really how it works.
	You're right.
	There's a court system involved.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	So ICE has been complaining that places like parts of California, New York City, and other sanctuary jurisdictions that the jails either refuse to honor detainers, which is no, that's a spell.
	Seeing dementers?
	Interesting.
	I've never seen the series.
	A detainer is that after someone undocumented serves their sentence, that they are requesting to hold them longer than their sentence, which is illegal.
	You cannot do that.
	These jails refuse to honor that.
	Can you just keep them in a little bit?
	That's not how it works.
	Or to give them, they're saying that they give them little or no notice after the sentence is over and they release them into the cities.
	With Minnesota specifically.
	Steal again.
	Of course, to do more crimes, because that's the whole point of this, right?
	That's the whole point of prisons.
	That's the whole point of immigration.
	Actually, let's not go too to bat for prisons.
	Temporarily, we're giving them a little leeway here.
	I'm saying that they're doing their job, not by letting a bunch of goons snatch people out of prison.
	It's like when the two villains are protecting the good character because they're trying to keep the person from each other.
	Yeah, but I just want to say DHS and ICE, yeah, they've been accusing Minnesota of not honoring immigration detainers and failing to notice them when they do release folks.
	I just feel like immigration should be a fully court issue.
	That's how it should be, right?
	I don't think ICE should have guns or arrest people at all.
	The Minnesota Department of Corrections, which is the state prison, say that this is false, that they honor all federal detainers, including ICE.
	You know, I actually heard that if you go into jail and you just say, hey, we let them out, and they say, are they an immigrant?
	And if they are, they just get out.
	They just kind of pass them.
	They think that it's right for people who are sentenced to stay in jail for a certain period of time, that they should stay in jail for, I think, longer.
	No, that's different.
	That's different than that.
	Two-thirds, I think, is the standard, right?
	They just assume that if you've done a crime, you should do the time, which in most other cases, what folks would see is justice, right?
	But ICE wants to take people out of prisons.
	And they've also stated that there is a hell of a lot more people in these prisons than actually are.
	Trump's DHS has been saying that there's about 1,360 illegal alien criminals in Minnesota's custody, but Minnesota's own count shows that it's closer to 300 non-citizens with ICE detainers statewide, including people who may or may not be here legally.
	So to be specific, they're saying that 94 non-citizens are in county jails with ICE detainers, 307 in state prisons, which is a lot different than over a thousand.
	Trump wouldn't lie.
	That's a good point.
	Yeah.
	I shouldn't have said that.
	You're an idiot, so it's okay.
	All right.
	Also, I should say that county jails in Minnesota are run by local sheriffs, not the governor.
	So I don't know why the governor would be.
	Ooh, what you got there?
	Sorry, didn't the residue be that loud?
	The governors, they decide individually how much they want to cooperate with ICE.
	Yeah, current reporting shows disagreement between ICE and state officials about what level of cooperation is actually happening in the main places.
	Hepnan County.
	I don't think I'm saying that right.
	What's happening and happening.
	Quick little rundown about this big lie Stephen and Trump think is.
	Well, I think what a lot of it is, is people, they get very states' rights about some things.
	And then they're like, no, no, no, not about that.
	Well, not when our guy was doing all the stuff.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	I think that local police should do whatever the president says.
	Governors should be abolished.
	Yeah, wait, I thought we liked governors.
	No, we don't like governors.
	I thought we were big fans of sheriffs.
	No.
	No, I thought they were the governors, no sheriffs.
	Wow.
	My plan is actually the people all work directly for Donald Trump with nobody else.
	That's a good point.
	He shouldn't have to do it.
	You can call it all.
	He does one-on-ones with everybody.
	Judiciary, Jeuschmissierary.
	Exactly.
	Fucking dude.
	Who cares?
	Okay, very fun stuff.
	So we've delayed, speaking of fun, this horrid take for too long.
	It's time to talk to Alex.
	Fuck.
	And I'm not talking about this guy.
	As soon as I'm ready, I'll come on you first.
	So this man, Alex Predty, was 37 years old.
	You've probably seen this.
	Was shot and killed after a confrontation with ICE officers.
	Okay.
	We now know that he had a gun on him.
	Sure.
	That's not illegal.
	You absolutely have the right to carry a gun, especially if you're a lawful permit holder.
	I support constitutional carry.
	I know that's not where we are right now.
	That is not the issue at hand, to be clear.
	He was resisting arrest.
	That is an issue.
	He was impeding officers before that.
	That is an issue.
	These people actually went, meaning this man and two women in question, actually crossed the street to harass, arguably assault ICE officers.
	About the street and not assault.
	Well, actually not.
	They crossed.
	They jaywalked.
Alex Predty's Final Moments 00:14:54
	Kill him.
	I thought Stephen was a big fan of Jaywalk, and he said that in his stand-up comedy special, remember?
	He loves Jaywalkin, dude.
	Big fan of it.
	So independent videos and witness accounts show that Alex, first of all, rest in peace, horrid.
	I don't want to jump too deep into this so quickly, but this made me so fucking angry.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	And I feel bad being like, this guy looks like me, a white guy.
	And it made me angry.
	But it is just, it's one of those things where it's like, it's so clear and cut and dry that he was filming.
	He was protecting a woman.
	Assaulting an officer, resisting arrest, reaching for his gun.
	He actually brandished it and pointed it.
	He actually did a cool gun spin, too.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	Just like it was Sunset Riders for Super Nintendo.
	So yeah, independent videos and witness accounts they show him physically struggling with federal agents and not really fully complying, but also they don't show him attacking anyone, brandishing a gun.
	Not even what would be considered resisting arrest, considering the timeline and the rapid mace to tackle to execution.
	None of those things are punishable by death.
	They most certainly are not.
	If you didn't do seven people's conflicting demands within one second, you should die.
	Exactly.
	That's all this is.
	This is like playing Twister, but some guy's telling you to do like nine different things.
	You get dogpiled.
	You don't even get a chance to do it.
	It's crazy.
	We've all seen cell footage showing agents rushing him, grabbing him, and using pepper spray and also striking me in the head a bunch of times with, I think, a can of pepper.
	I think it was a can of spray.
	I think it might have been.
	He twists and pulls away, curls up almost in the fetal position as much as he can.
	Yeah, as he's being beaten.
	Yeah, which just seems interesting that he would not comply violently like that, right?
	Yeah, come on, man.
	Violently reacting to being assaulted rapidly for no real reason.
	But yeah, the Claris video shows an agent removing a handgun from his waistband and walking away, shouting gun, gun, gun, which triggered people to piss their pants, barf, and shoot him to death.
	Did people piss and barf?
	No.
	Oh, I was excited about piss and barf.
	No, no, they just were morons.
	Yeah, yeah, that's it.
	And I, you know, we didn't talk about Renee Good, and we obviously talked about this.
	I think what the most telling thing about all this was when Renee Goode and the guy goes, fucking bitch.
	Fucking bitch.
	It shows the mindset of the folks who were in these roles.
	And obviously.
	We mentioned the other one, yeah.
	It's fucked up.
	I would never shoot someone or even shoot at someone and call them a fucking bitch.
	Or a piece of shit.
	No.
	No.
	One time I shoved my sister and then I started crying.
	Sisters are getting pushed, okay?
	When I saw that video we talked about earlier.
	I don't think we got it on the episode yet, but in this particular one, this is the ending with the Call of Duty.
	Which are like maybe facts.
	I didn't hear that.
	Did somebody say that?
	It might be in this.
	I'm not sure.
	It's not in the episode.
	Time codes, Jared, time codes.
	We should walk through this.
	I don't know unless anyone has, because we're going to be talking about this for a little bit.
	Go for it.
	Yeah, I got more to say, but go for it.
	The key takeaway here is all of this is completely avoidable.
	We still don't have one example of people standing on the sidewalk, filming, protesting, not impeding, doing what we know as civil protests, taking part in that.
	We still don't have a single example of that, and then being shot or physically abused.
	We've not seen one yet.
	More than Renee Goode and Alex.
	There's been a handful of people.
	There's nine.
	Yeah.
	Maybe 10 now.
	I think it's 10.
	But again, this is the whole victim blaming.
	It's victim blaming for sure.
	It literally is none of these things are punishable by death.
	Blocking traffic's not punishable by death.
	No, not even, there's not a world where it's more than a misamuse.
	Yeah, not at all.
	And regardless, I don't give a fuck about the law.
	I don't care about the law at all.
	What I care about is if I see somebody cross the street in front of me, do I have a right to hit them?
	Like, do I have a moral obligation or any moral justification to hit that?
	It's so sad.
	Every time I've been on a crosswalk for the past few weeks, I have shot the driver of a car.
	Because, well, they were car was right at me.
	It was coming at me.
	I have a split second decision.
	You don't know the pressure.
	You kind of like did this like weird step in front of it thing.
	You leaned on the hood of their car.
	Come on.
	I have the right to do a weird stutter step in front of a car.
	I know that like in my 19 years, every time that a car has like moved at me or like I'm like, bros, I'm like, I'm show speed.
	I'm going to jump over this motherfucker.
	And like, you know, that's like the only time I really try to get in front of a car.
	But like the other times, like ex-girlfriends, et cetera, like that, like ex-friends, like, haha, you know what I mean, bro?
	You know, I'm definitely like.
	Okay, there was like one time where I did step into the car.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Well, the statute of limitations has expired.
	Yep, sorry, dude.
	Too late.
	All right.
	This is likely the first video that you saw.
	And the video that people like Tim Walz and Mayor Fry are hoping is the only one that you've seen.
	Here's the first one that was released.
	There you go.
	Looks like an ICE officer pushing a lady.
	This guy.
	Let's just go past that.
	And then it's Alex Predty.
	You will hear the gunshots for those who are squeamish, but there's nothing graphic.
	Okay.
	So if you watch that, people go, oh my gosh, they just roughed some people up and then executed somebody.
	That looks really bad.
	Got it.
	That was not the first video that came out at all.
	No, I don't think it is.
	That was Pink Lady's video.
	The longer extended version was the Pink Lady video.
	But I think that video was probably the ones that, I mean, obviously, like, there's all these angles of it, but that one was really clear that he was helping somebody.
	Well, no, the cops are roughing him up.
	Yeah, they just were roughing up.
	Shoved him and pushed a lady and roughed him up.
	Yeah.
	And they show that lady for zero fucking reason.
	Well, let's dive a little bit deeper.
	It's a game of time codes.
	And we're actually going to illustrate this tomorrow where we'll shoot a sketch and prove the point to you.
	We'll shoot a simulation.
	So we'll show you a clip where you can watch them go, well, clearly person A is guilty.
	Then we'll extend it.
	You go, well, clearly person B is guilty.
	Then you go, oh, wait, clearly person C is guilty.
	And then you'll go, oh, none of this is real.
	I know this because I've worked in media.
	I know what they do.
	Okay, so Fox News lies.
	Tell me about the game of time codes.
	Admitting that Fox News manipulates footage.
	Very cool.
	Nice to know it.
	Does Steven know what time codes are?
	He went to media school, remember?
	According to the deposition, time codes just sync up video.
	Is it a sketch or a simulation, Steve?
	I don't even know.
	It's a simulation and a sketch.
	Spoiler alert.
	We're going to watch it.
	Oh, no.
	You guys are going to enjoy that.
	I'm not.
	Let's explore time codes, though.
	Let's do.
	Are we going to jam sync?
	we talking about tentacle sink are we talking about are we talking about the body camera Have we seen the body camera yet?
	Is this Axe on?
	No, the body camera doesn't exist.
	Body camera is actually a Mandela effect.
	Yeah, our bodies don't have cameras.
	We have eyes.
	So now let's pull back.
	A little more context.
	The people around Predty were clearly not only instigating, were clearly not only obstructing ICE, but they were going out of their way to cross the street and accost ICE.
	And these people have been doing it all day long.
	Here's the next clip.
	Remember you were told they were on that sidewalk.
	No, they're across the street.
	Going to the ICE agent.
	Blowing their whistle.
	There's Predty.
	Filming.
	There he is in the street.
	Waving traffic through.
	Go!
	This is Pink Lady's video.
	There he is in the middle of the street.
	How long has he been doing this all day?
	Well, we'll get some more context.
	What the fuck is wrong with you?
	Now there's Alex grabbing one of his friends in a headlock.
	Don't fully understand that.
	That lady gets pushed.
	He goes to grab her.
	Okay.
	And now when they grab him, he obviously resists arrest.
	He is refusing to go down.
	He is trying to get up.
	We now know that this man had a firearm on him.
	And then you see everything obviously escalating.
	That's a horrible situation.
	It's a quagmire.
	It's a melee.
	A lot of confusion.
	Now the reason that matters is because the goalposts removed from this is a man who is simply filming on the sidelines ICE officers ran across the street to push a random lady, and he was a good Samaritan.
	Well, you know, that's not true.
	The goalposts are just, they didn't need to fucking kill a guy.
	I think he's looking in the wrong direction because the goalposts, they're not moving.
	No, they're in the same place.
	We're just going, what happened?
	And then more video comes out and go, oh, I see.
	This is how they got there.
	Oh, and this other thing that you're saying is relevant is not.
	I guarantee, we haven't listened to it yet, but I guarantee that Stephen's going to say this new video from 11 days before came out.
	And they're like, now the goalposts have moved.
	No, they haven't moved.
	They haven't moved.
	It doesn't matter that anyone was in the street.
	It doesn't.
	No, it's slow-moving traffic.
	Well, the guy was being safe, too.
	How did Stephen feel about when Pokemon Go was happening?
	People were running across the street for Snorlax.
	Clearly didn't like that.
	Come on now.
	Come on now.
	You know that.
	Obviously resisting.
	Obviously resisting arrest because, I mean, what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to just go limp.
	That's what I heard.
	Hopefully you have to comply.
	If they say, hey, hey, get on the ground, you just go limp.
	You just collapse.
	Like one of those little toys.
	You push the bass.
	Yeah.
	Squeeze the bass.
	And all your limbs are tied together by the end.
	I don't know about that.
	I've never played with a toy like that before.
	Yeah, I do a VR headset version of that.
	That's kind of cool.
	I raged all on Happy Wheels, a retro game I found.
	I have a weird kink in my neck that makes me look down all the time.
	You've got the dick.
	I've been.
	Sorry, I stood up to tuck my dog in real quick.
	Sorry.
	I've been mongging.
	I've been look smacking.
	Hitting your face with a hammer.
	Yeah, I've been chisel jawing.
	It's cool.
	That's what I went away to do.
	Yeah, I've been trying to go.
	I do mean from the asylum, you freaks, okay?
	I got a new job with the Joker now that he's out.
	I mean, does he pay well?
	You need a job.
	So now the conversation is centered around, okay, there are ICE officers on him.
	He had a firearm in his holster, SIGP 320 with a threaded barrel.
	And someone took the gun out of the holster.
	So we're saying, well, the gun was taken off of him.
	He was disarmed before he was shot.
	Therefore, it's an execution.
	Here's a slowed down clip.
	And you tell me if you actually believe for a second that everyone involved in this sticky, dirty, confusing situation would have known that this gun was removed from this man.
	Let's watch this.
	A sticky, dirty, confusing situation that was initiated by who?
	Exactly.
	Why is it sticky and dirty?
	That's kind of weird, right?
	Yeah, why is it so poorly organized that it's confusing?
	You think a well-trained man walked up, shoved two women, sprayed both of them in the face with pepper spray, tackled them, and then a bunch of guys go, oh, we're doing dog fire?
	Oh, we're fighting?
	They all tackle a guy, take a gun, say gun, gun, gun, and a guy pukes and barfs, pisses his pants, and shoots a man in the back.
	And then another guy waits a second and goes, we're shooting guns.
	Just mag dumps this fucking guy.
	Yeah.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	You cannot blame the situation because the situation is as it was because of ice.
	You created the situation.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And we could keep rewinding this.
	It's Tim Wall's fault, right?
	Totally, dude.
	Yeah.
	Wait a second.
	It's Smaller Daycare's fault.
	Okay, it's not Shirley's fault.
	Yeah, Shirley did this.
	Yeah, this is stop hitting yourself, basically.
	It's cause a problem, then blame them for it.
	Fully.
	That's exactly what it is.
	You can only say that is what happened and also say we have an incompetent force.
	It's a quagmire giggity.
	Yeah, hey, listen, I'm really sorry that we pissed in the deep fryer.
	Yeah.
	All of our guys were really high.
	On fentanyl.
	We don't know which firearm fired the first round.
	What we do know is that as he's being disarmed, someone yells gun, gun.
	This could very easily be someone seeing him take the gun, go gun, gun, gun, saying he's got the gun, but someone hears the word gun.
	If you look in a split second, you see a holster and you hear gun, you can assume that there's a gun.
	We also see that the other man is grabbing something.
	Could be a phone, could be a magazine.
	We don't know.
	Yeah, it looks weird.
	You can look where Alex's hand is at that moment in the slowed down video when they say gun and the first shot is fired.
	If you're looking at him trying to subdue him here and then your eye pans back, he's reaching to his hip or his hand is around that side.
	Yeah.
	It very clearly looks like a situation where you've identified that there's a gun.
	There's a shot that's been fired.
	The officers are doing what they're trained to do and backing, trying to get distance so that they can assess and fire on the suspect if he has a gun.
	And they fire.
	All these ICE agents, you know, they're looking through cell phones to make these determinations just like I am too.
	So you can tell that it actually like it's all kind of blurry and like the motion kind of has like a you know a bit of a Marvel effect to it.
	I can't really see what's going on in his hand there, but it does look kind of weird.
	Enough that he should probably die for it, actually.
	Shut the fuck up, you fucking rhinestone gene-wearing.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	He had a black phone in his hand, which is the reason that they tackled him initially.
	Oh my god, he was definitely holding the phone like a fucking pistol, too.
	Like how you normally hold a phone when you're fucking filming it.
	Yeah, like what he's like, he's doing fucking secret agent shit with his fucking cell phone.
	Did you see that, Dennis?
	Oh my gosh.
	Just like hold your fucking celly like a fucking gun.
	That's what he does.
	And it's a black cell phone.
	I know you guys got the orange one, right?
	No, I got white, but a black case for it.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Okay, so like point like you got a fucking, like a little ray gun, like you got it, like you're in Blade Runner.
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	Ah, here it is.
	Oh, here.
	Oh, no.
	I want to show you something.
	Does that look like a gun?
	I think it does a little bit.
	It's a phone.
	It's black.
	You start wicking your body around.
	your suit swishing around and shit you're doing fucking rolls on the ground because you're like that's absolutely insane That's how I feel.
	Also, so here's the thing.
	I've heard other people say he was reaching.
	Here's a video of him reaching for his gun.
	I don't believe he was reaching for his gun.
	But I will say that if people had tackled me to the ground and I felt somebody grab my gun out of my holster, I might check my holster.
	I believe the still that everyone is pointing to that makes it appear that he's reaching for his hip was him responding to having been shot in the back by a gun.
	Oh, sure.
	So I think.
	Oh, my back hurts.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	I've been shot.
	And his arm goes.
	Don't reach for your gun again.
	And then they continue to shoot him.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I've seen the situation from 100 angles.
	And if you can look at the situation and think that Alex Predi should have been killed, you are an assistant.
	Yeah.
	Well, here's really the threshold that's going to need to be met.
	You don't need to prove that you acted correctly 100% correctly.
	What you need to prove is that these officers acted reasonably.
	Meaning, was there a reasonable concern that an armed man who was resisting arrest, who had a gun on him, could pose a threat if you hear the words gun yelled out and you hear a shot?
	I absolutely think that that threshold will be met.
	The one man who removed the gun, if he discharged it, could be and should be charged with a negligent discharge.
	That's not the same as murder.
	No.
	That's what started off the chain reaction.
	This is unfortunate.
	Yes.
	Was this handled ideally?
	No.
	But if you are going to make the case that these officers did not handle this well, you would certainly have to grant that the man in question, Predty, deliberately went out and instigated and handled this equally poorly.
	No.
	Equally poorly.
	He is dead.
	They are not.
	He did not.
	Listen, Dave, they're about to LARP it out in the parking lot eight or nine times before we see it.
	So you can bet that they will get it right at least one of those nine times.
	And he will prove you and all of us wrong.
	I love how one of the things that he says as like this condition for finding it reasonable is that they shout out gun, because someone took the gun out of the game.
	What's the proper training?
	Like, why are you shouting gun?
	If you're trained to respond to that saying gun is secured, then everyone should know that.
	If it means that he has a gun, then that means that the guy shouted the wrong thing and killed him.
	Yeah.
	The training to just be a police officer is like two years.
	And to be ICE officer, it's like six weeks.
	But I gotta say, guys, well, yeah.
	Yes.
	I had more training at a call center.
	I had more training to be in DMT.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I had more training to.
	You can kill people easier than you can save them, I guess.
	That does make sense.
	I'm a pretty fast learner, to be honest.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you shoot good.
	You're ice now.
	It's not reasonable to expect that if you are legally carrying a gun and you're arrested for any reason that you should be killed.
	Yeah, imagine if you had your hands up on your head and the guy lifts up your waistband and goes, gun, shoots you, bunch.
	That's not reasonable.
	That's not second or not.
	Sorry, he got confused.
	It's reasonable to be confused.
	It is.
	It is to be.
	I mean, it's a fucking quagmire.
	Giga.
	That's a melee, dude.
	Yeah, really dumb stuff.
	There's no way that this situation doesn't escalate, and it's exactly what they want.
	And even more than that, we know that there are people out there hunting ICE agents.
	So Cam Higbee, who's been doing some great work lately, he infiltrated a signal group where ICE watchers, as they're referred to, they specifically organize to impede federal officers.
	I know this because this happened in Utah when we did it with Antifa.
	Ben Shapiro was speaking, and they handed one of my producers an ice pick and a taser, and they were going back to their trunks to get sawed-off shotguns.
	We got into their application, and this is how many of them organized.
	Back then, it wasn't Signal, it was something else.
	So, if you look at this group, it exists to find ICE officers in the middle of doing their job and impede and obstruct them and make it difficult.
	Oh, Cam Higby.
	Oh, yeah.
	He likes Cam Higby because he did the fuck.
	Oh, my God.
	What's Stevens called?
	The table?
	Changed my mind.
	Changed my mind.
	Fucking crikey.
	I kept saying Charlie Kirk one.
	Yeah, I couldn't.
	Ah, yes.
	They were all happening all at once.
	Let's do debate good.
	So, Cam Higby, a conservative activist that Steven is quite fond of, as well as other federal agents, they gained access to some Minneapolis-area signal chats that local organizers were using to spot and share ICE activity, which seems fine to me.
	Fully agree.
	But Cam, he shared some selective screenshots to claim that there was a coordinated plot to hunt or obstruct federal officers.
	Hunt or obstruct is an interesting way to look at that.
	Yeah, we should kill them or just get in their way.
	Or, yeah.
	One of the two.
	So, in reality, multiple reports describe these signal networks as a loose grassroots system of thousands of people to share license plate numbers, locations, and warnings so neighbors can avoid raids.
	Like flock cams.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's a couple of those in town.
	Show up to observe or protest.
	Essentially, an extension of traditional cop-watching or rapid response phone trees, which is, I'm 19, I don't know what a phone is.
	I don't know what a phone is.
	I do know what a gun is.
	Or is it a phone?
	Within those chats, the tone ranges from careful legal advice to hot-headed comments about blocking agents, which is something that, you know, it's a tense situation.
	I would expect people to say wild shit the same way that people said wild shit to an undercover Jared Monroe at a Ben Shapiro rally that launched them into their weird fame.
	That's the reason they were on Joe Rogan initially.
	Stephen Crowder and we should cover that one of these days.
	Not Gay Jared and Stephen Crowder on Joe Rogan, where they talked about how they were offered an ice pick from Antifa, and Antifa said that they were also going to go get their saw-off shotguns from their car.
	And it was fairly clear that these people were kind of loser LARPers that were like fucking around.
	Sure.
	It was a little embarrassing.
	I'm going to go get my gun out of the car.
	I'm going to come back and shoot these guys.
	It was a little embarrassing, but for them to take that moment of kind of blue-haired, exceptionally not serious people at a protest to assume that that's like a legitimate threat.
	I know it was investigated by the authorities.
	We'll talk about it when we cover the Joe Rogan episode, but they're making it out to be something more than it is, the same way Cam Higbee is in this situation.
	Here's how I know Cam Higbee is actually, yes, because of Signalgate, but because the guy who runs the Mercado Media site.
	I don't know what that is.
	It's like breaking news, current events, live stream, personal account, the guru Merck from East of Minnesota.
	Okay, so that's why.
	So like they're there.
	Okay.
	The Teamu Punishers, a bunch of dipshits, Jaden Scott, Zach X, and Cam Higbee.
	Cool guys, yeah.
	One of these guys, I believe it's Jaden Scott, showed up at the front door of the Mercado Media gentleman from Minnesota and basically said, like, we know where you're at.
	We found your signal chat.
	We got your address.
	Andrew, your video, it was cute.
	However, the Teamu Punishers, we got your address.
	We know who you are.
	Watch your fucking mouth.
	You hear me?
	Watch your fucking mouth.
	Commies, stand down.
	We've broken your signal groups.
	We've hacked your sites.
	You dumb fuckers vibe coded out of a site that should have been locked down.
	And Andrew, watch your fucking mouth, bitch boy.
	Wipe your paws off.
	Misinformation comes with consequences.
	Okay.
	You have their consequences to talking like this, bitch boy.
	So the Mercado Media guy is like trying to move right now.
	So good luck to him on that.
	These kids are fucking stupid.
	I mean, listen, most of what was said in the signal chat, it's just monitoring public streets and coordinating protests, which are all activities that are generally protected by the First Amendment.
	And I'll say that I feel like we should know where ICE is at all times.
	I think at this point, they've proven that that is a good thing because they're a liability.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, the FBI has opened an investigation, but so far there's no evidence that the signal group was doing anything else.
	So wait, I'm wrong, though.
	These are some scary sickos.
	You don't fuck around with these guys, do you?
	Right?
	No.
	And I'm not in that chat at all anymore.
	Oh, good.
	Some of the members in there include, by the way, some Minnesota administration members or officials.
	This hasn't been confirmed, but there certainly seems to be some inside information here that makes it pretty easy for them to target ICE.
	It's very organized, too.
	This isn't just a bunch of random people that want to go out and protest, and it's like the signal thing.
	It's got a set number of people that can be in there.
	I think about a thousand people with different designations based on an emoji, essentially, on what they're going to do, different zones that people can be in, and then also auto-deleting functions to make sure that they can't get this information and get it out.
	Obviously, Cam getting it is phenomenal.
	But this is not just random protesters.
	There seems to be a lot more going on here.
	This is organized criminality.
	Yeah, to be clear.
	These ICE agents are not just dealing with deporting illegal aliens and random protesters.
	They are dealing with an organized crime ring.
	I hope you guys understand that.
	Does that change the context?
	An organized crime ring.
	Did that word land?
	Should I use that more?
	Will that make you guys upset?
	I'll use that one if that's the one that pisses you off, I guess.
	I love that you can hear all three of our eyes rolling back.
	You can hear the whoosh of it.
	I also love Gerald talking about how it's so organized.
	He's unknown.
	He is unknown.
	Like, I'm not going to take organization analysis from a guy who made the election fraud.
	Integrity map.
	Integrity map.
	Couldn't do anything.
	Didn't work at all.
	Yeah.
	Election live stream of the century.
	Which the URL did just expire.
	I did not renew election live stream of the century.
	I probably should because we got one coming up.
	I'll get it back.
	And then you'll see the proposals.
	And I see this on scene and they go, well, we definitely can unmask ICE agents and demand transparency.
	You think that's a good idea when you see this?
	You know, these people and their families will be targeted.
	There is no doubt.
	They will be killed.
	They will be killed.
	They'll be lynched without a trial.
	That's exactly what people want on the left.
	They want these.
	Hey, why aren't there names out there?
	The Tim guy that you debated, the Pukashell guy, forget his last name, Tim.
	The Bullwork guy.
	Yeah.
	He was a Miller.
	Yeah, Tim Miller.
	Tim Miller's like, yeah, why aren't their names?
	We know that their names are out there.
	I'm like, what do you want them to just be shot in the streets?
	You know they aren't going to get a fair trial.
	People aren't going to ask them what actually happened.
	People don't care if they saw a gun or heard a gun firing and tried to defend their own lives.
	They're just going to kill them.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Well, I can tell you this.
	Obviously, Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
	And obviously, we've had a lot of close calls.
	I can tell you how on edge we are if we're doing a change of mind going on campus.
	I can only imagine the volatility of being an ICE member.
	Yeah.
	You absolutely are a target for violence.
	Irrelevant.
	You should be trained better.
	There's no excuse just because you're under pressure that you should perform worse.
	Yes, of course.
	And here's the thing: if someone is anonymous, they can do bad things and feel no repercussions from it.
	Also, Trump said that they have absolute immunity.
	Yes.
	For the same reason that someone with an anonymous username online will be real big and fucking tough, and then you meet in person and they're little bitches about it.
	You know what I mean?
	Yes.
	That's the problem here: that the I don't want to, I don't want to see ICE agents killed.
	Well, first of all, I want to point out that the only people who have been killed in this conflict have been protests?
	No, one did get his finger bit off, which I don't have an opinion on.
	But no, the ICE are the ones that are killing people.
	Yeah.
	I want to be able to see their face and see their name so there can be accountability for their negative actions.
	I think that's reasonable.
	This guy had force that was, you know, this guy, oh, this guy shot out a skateboarder's eyeball.
	Cool.
	Let's figure out who that was.
	Maybe you won't shoot someone when you hear a gun or see a gun or hear a gunshot.
	Yes.
	And if somebody had an invisibility cloak, they would be the worst version of themselves.
	Imagine.
	Excuse me.
	Imagine if you heard the gunshot and then turned around and saw someone pointing at you in a crowd and you just shoot them.
	Like that, like there's no reason to think that you hear a gunshot and you turn around and just start opening fire on someone.
	That's so many reasons started blasting is basically what ICE did.
	It seems that way, right?
	Like I just, there's no reasonable, going back to Steven's word, reason when you see a gun or hear someone yell gun, gun, gun, that you should react that way.
	Yeah, well, not at all.
	Honestly, I fully believe ICE should not at all have masks.
	They should be clearly identifiable as people.
	Like we should know.
	They want the gig, man.
	Yeah, I don't want to go to their house.
	I just want to be able to be like, oh, yeah, I did talk to an agent who was very rude to me, and his name was X.
	I think that's reasonable.
	Yes.
	For the same reason that every person who I see pulled over, they go, what's your badge number?
	You know, like that kind of thing.
	It's annoying, but it's part of the job.
	It is part of the job.
	And identification is super important.
	This whole thing is about identification.
	Like the entire thing.
	They can dish it out, but they can't take it.
	And it's the truth, unfortunately.
	It's like, you expect me to show you my ID, but you won't even show me yours.
	Like, that's just, it's, it's crazy.
	Yeah, it's grotesque.
	The thing that these people are trying to describe in all of this, like what you were saying earlier, Dennis, like the fucking clown that shot Renee Goode.
	Jonathan Ross, yeah.
	It's like Call of Duty.
	So cool, huh?
	Did you shoot?
	Take the shot.
	If they kick it, you take a shot.
	All right, so that's not at the time of the Alex Preddy shooting.
	That's afterwards.
	This is on January 25th, and that took place on.
	No, immediately after he did get shot, he did clap.
	I don't know if you remember that.
	Yeah, these, yeah, so there's a mention of it there.
	Yeah, the guy clapping was absolutely insane.
	Regardless of when this took place, nobody should be saying it's like Call of Duty.
	Especially the day after having killed someone.
	Yes, of course.
	It's absolutely disgusting.
	That should not be the reason that you're serving as an ICE member.
	Because it's fun.
	It's so cool that we get a toss.
	The guy who threw that tear gas, he threw it like he was like tossing his socks in a drawer.
Acting Out After Killing 00:04:45
	He did kind of bundle it up and roll it and roll it.
	Into the closet.
	Yeah.
	These people need to be serious.
	Because it's a serious thing.
	They are being serious, though.
	That's the thing.
	This is like the nature of what they're doing, the reason why they want to do it.
	This is like anyone who's like, we'll give you $50,000 bonus after five years, right?
	Like, and you're, and you're, and you're not even making, like, what are they making, like, on average?
	Like, probably 50K a year to do this?
	Yeah, I think it was actually less.
	I think it was something like 47,000.
	40K.
	That's fucking embarrassing.
	Yeah, I was making like a lot more than that, just making like toys in China.
	So just fucking give them meth already.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, let these fucking jackals just smoke meth and do this shit.
	Like, that's the only thing that's like separating them from the actual Gestapo themselves.
	I mean, like, that was the same thing.
	They fucking pried on like low-income people, promised them a job and a place to sleep and like three meals, basically.
	Like, hey, we'll give you jail, but like, you can do jail to people.
	Is that cool?
	And we'll pay you nothing to do it.
	It's the same thing that the fucking U.S. military does.
	That's why they're in the low-income fucking high schools recruiting.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's the same thing.
	This is like the cycle that we see.
	It's like they're prying on these people who are like downtrodden themselves.
	But what's worse about them is that not only are they downtrodden, but they're fucking like, I don't even know, Don Tround is like actually the appropriate word for this.
	Oppressed or treated badly by people in power?
	Just like on a class level, anyway, I mean to say like they're people without jobs.
	They're people that are like low employed.
	Like I make more money than a fucking ICE agent.
	So like what, you know, whatever.
	Like that, like.
	Well, that's because you are like a manager of an ice agent.
	Yeah.
	I thought because you're like a step up.
	I'm a step up.
	You're a squad commander.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	They pay me an extra few dollars an hour to make sure you don't stick your hand in the ice machine.
	Could you imagine like a one-on-one manager conversation with an ICE guy?
	Hey, hey, David, let's just talk real quickly.
	What do you think went well when you guessed that protester who said immigrants are people?
	I'm complying.
	Well, he was choking and coughing a bunch.
	I noticed that you listened to what the protesters said.
	And if I were you, I would recommend ignoring them.
	They're trying to get in your way of doing your job.
	So don't let him do that.
	I guess what I'm trying to say through all this, though, is...
	Let's get back out there, buddy.
	Do an HR with them real quick.
	Yeah.
	You are going to have to sign this really quick, though, I saw this.
	Can you sign my coaching log really quick?
	Yeah, just this is for both of us.
	It's like for both our protection.
	We're accountable.
	But no, I guess it's what I mean to say, though, is that like this, the Call of Duty comment, everything else between that, it's like, these are broke losers.
	These are scrubs calling from the passenger side of the best friend's ride.
	You know what I'm saying?
	These are not people who are impressive by any means.
	And so this is their only means to be impressive is to like, you know, suck the dick of fascism and sort of like be friends with each other because they're all like on their knees for the same thing.
	They're submissive to each other, and then they're submissive to like other fascists, basically.
	And they're dominant to women by shoving them.
	So they're Switch.
	Yeah, they're not talking to women.
	They get to act out all these things.
	The other side of this, too, is these Proud Boy marches and shit.
	The kid who did get the Jake whatever who pissed his pants in Minneapolis last week.
	Did Jake piss his pants?
	I mean, he had a big wet spot on his crotch, so I'm just going to assume that that was Scaredy Boy Piss.
	Jake Lang, of course, the guy had the anti-Muslim rally.
	Yeah, all these fucking white supremos being like, how come there aren't people here?
	And it's like, because they're all at work, dog.
	They're all doing their job with ICE.
	Like, the Proud Boys are not on your side right now because they're getting paid $40,000 plus locked in for five years to get 50K over five years.
	We know Tario couldn't resist it.
	Yeah.
	You know, Broke Boy.
	Broke Boy.
	Who's going to hire a fucking criminal?
	Well, who's going to hire ICE people?
	See, after this, I think that they're trying from what I saw to and not to say criminals aren't unhireable.
	I don't mean like that.
	No, reformed criminals are worth hiring.
	Of course.
	I just love this transition out.
	You know, like, what if you gave your two weeks' notice at ICE, but you had to keep shooting protests?
	You're like calling phoning it in.
	You're just shooting blanks at people.
	Yeah.
Net Worth Controversies 00:05:32
	Pepper balls in the sky.
	You mentioned quiet quitting ICE.
	They're showing up and doing a bad job.
	No, you let that one go.
	I'm an ICE agent, but I'm participating in the general strike.
	I guess I'm just going to shoot more people today.
	Yeah, I'm not going to shoot anybody today.
	I'm going to do an even worse job.
	I'm going to make it hot for everybody.
	President Trump posted this on Truth this morning.
	This is good news.
	He's a friend of the show.
	Hope we have him on this week.
	He said, I am sending Tom Oman to Minnesota tonight.
	He has not been involved in that area, but knows and likes many of the people there.
	Tom is tough but fair and will respond directly to me.
	He will report to me separately a major investigation is going on with respect to the massive $20 billion plus welfare fraud that has taken place in Minnesota and is at least partially responsible for the violent organized protests going on in the streets.
	Additionally, the DOJ and Congress are looking at Congresswoman quotes Ilan Omar, who left Somalia with nothing and is now reportedly worth more than $44 million.
	Time will tell all.
	Thank you for your attention.
	By the way, the number, her wealth is going up.
	It was in the 30-something million range last time.
	It was 25 million, then 30, but he probably knows something that we don't.
	Her portfolio is appreciating.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe it could be.
	I don't know.
	She's going to be getting some hot tips from her brother/slash husband.
	Brother, husband, yeah.
	They talk about a good, very, very good deal here.
	Tell me to run a good deal.
	I'm willing to put up here the Epstein files unredacted.
	Okay.
	I want Frippler Zero.
	Okay.
	I'll give the dark foil Doc Brandon a raised Curtis Yarvin.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	We have a deal?
	No?
	Okay.
	Well, I'm willing to put in also General Patton's Lucky Lighter.
	And if that's not enough, I'll pass this across the table.
	That's right.
	The Shroud of Turin.
	Holy cow.
	So I do have to say, we've been kind of openly mocking Steven for trying to get Holman on the show.
	It seems like he has been on in the past.
	June 17th, 2025, he was on an episode titled, Will Trump Actually Fulfill Deportation Promises.
	Holman detailed the administration's goal of 3,000 arrests a day.
	Remember when that was a thing?
	Yeah.
	I think I made Holman British.
	I don't think he's British.
	No, I don't think he's just a normal guy.
	Everyone's got a little bit of it.
	That's kind of fun.
	It seems like I didn't listen to this episode yesterday, Holman to Minnesota, What This Means plus MCU infiltrates signal.
	So I feel like I missed a whole bunch by not listening yesterday.
	I'm not certain if Holman was on the show yesterday.
	This is just like when Jesse Waters said that last week he said there were 10 million illegal immigrants under Obama under Biden.
	Now it's 20.
	Yeah.
	It keeps going up.
	It keeps going up.
	Maybe it's made the fuck up and you guys are just believing it.
	Well, you're an idiot.
	Wait a second.
	I have a bunch of information here.
	What?
	How'd you get this?
	Trump's Ilhan Omar net worth $30 to $44 million million claim.
	It comes from treating the full paper value of her husband's companies as if it belonged directly to her instead of counting only their actual equity and her own assets.
	Well, when he married her, he gets everything she gets.
	Well, and her net worth should be zero because she's a woman.
	And he owns every bit of his company, which she doesn't, because it also belongs to other people.
	Sure.
	So in her financial disclosure, she had to list the overall valuation ranges for her husband's investment firm and winery, which is kind of cool.
	What if she was married to Gerald Morgan?
	Sizable on paper.
	That'd be interesting.
	But those ranges describe the total value of the businesses, not how much cash or ownership she personally has.
	You know, Trump and some commentators have added this high end of this evaluation of the businesses together and presented them as the sum of her net worth, ignoring that her husband is only one owner among others and that those numbers don't represent liquid wealth.
	Yeah, but I mean, you would expect the guy who can't figure out insane asylum to figure out the net worth of a married couple.
	Well, he's a big Forbes guy, right?
	And Forbes, they did an analysis on the latest disclosure estimates, and they determined that her actual personal net worth, including her federal pension, but excluding the value of her husband's companies, is in the rough range of about negative $40,000 to positive $115,000.
	She's a regular American.
	So based on this, yeah, she has a normal amount of money.
	Yeah.
	Husband of a successful business.
	Husband was a business that handles a lot of money.
	Yeah.
	Who knows how much they're making.
	But also, I do know that it's talking like this that caused the attack on her on January 27th in Minneapolis when she was squirted with apple cider vinegar at a town hall by a man in the front row.
	I don't know, actually.
	I will say, she was ready to throw that.
	Yeah, she wanted to beat the fuck out of this 55-year-old.
	Did she just hold him back?
	His arms behind his back?
	Sweaters socket.
	Like a bully.
	Honestly, Steven would have liked that if it was the other way around, right?
	She'd have let her kick the shit out of that person if it was someone who did something to someone on the right, right?
Risk Nobody Takes 00:05:07
	I think that it went down pretty much exactly as it was planned.
	Planned by her.
	Of course, right?
	She knew it.
	She wanted the attention.
	She wanted to be a martyr.
	That's a false flag, of course.
	We are Elhan Omar.
	Doesn't have the ring, does it?
	Nope.
	No, but this is.
	We are Elhan Omar.
	You gotta really stretch it.
	No, but Trump, Trump talking like this and then denying it and claiming that it was a false flag is not gonna help much, right?
	It's not gonna help at all.
	Just triple down on it, Don.
	Does he want her killed?
	I think, I mean, like.
	I think he does.
	Yeah.
	This is right now.
	I still think that we need to wait for information.
	Oh, obviously.
	But this was a quagmire.
	I think the only correct take is this was a quagmire, but was completely avoidable from the standpoint of those obstructing ICE, of those committing crimes, multiple crimes committed before this happened.
	And that's exactly what the left wants.
	The left wants martyrs.
	Yeah.
	And it's very important that Donald Trump, President Trump, brought up the fraud taking place in Minnesota.
	Is it?
	Because boy, has the attention been taken off of that.
	Yeah.
	No kidding.
	Is this their take that Alex Predty's death was orchestrated to pull the focus off of Nick Shirley's stupid fucking face?
	Yeah, they sacrificed him to ICE because did numbers.
	Numbers for that.
	And it's pretty clear, and Andrew pointed out in that Channel 5 interview with Nick Shirley, that it's kind of suspicious that they would pivot this way to fraud in Minneapolis instead of talking about the Epstein files.
	Yeah, that's crazy, man.
	That's crazy.
	Huh.
	Wow.
	He's right.
	And we got one more clip from that day.
	My favorite opinions in every one of these episodes is always coming from the mouth of Joe Morgan because he is not only unknown, but also unfiltered.
	Yeah, it's the unfiltered Christian take.
	Yes.
	There are two situations where judgment calls had to be made to protect lives because people didn't understand that there are consequences to their actions when dealing with federal officers.
	And I think these guys were DHS, technically, and not ICE.
	Right.
	It doesn't matter.
	They're there to do the same job, right?
	People don't understand the consequences of doing this.
	When people's lives are on the line, you're like, I'm just yelling.
	They don't know that.
	You've got to ice DHS, not only right now, cozy in your house, or if you're at your office, but if you are driving through the Twin Cities right now and you happen to find yourself at an impasse where there are ICE agents, you are still at no risk.
	Do you understand that?
	You just go, oh, wait, sorry, I'm going to work.
	Officer, what's the best place for me?
	What's the best thing for me to do?
	You tell me.
	They'll go, please get out of here.
	All right.
	Great.
	Now, that's not saying be a bootlicker, back all blue.
	What I'm saying is nobody is at risk.
	Nobody has been at risk.
	Nobody has been harmed who has not been actively involved in obstructing, in impeding, or rioting.
	It hasn't happened.
	It doesn't mean that it was a good shoot.
	It doesn't mean that this situation is one that's easy to sort of parse.
	It doesn't mean that.
	But it is really straightforward.
	Don't impede.
	Don't obstruct.
	Don't break a law.
	Don't try and undo the vote of the American people who did vote for this.
	And you'll probably be okay.
	Libs are f***ing around up in Minnesota.
	And now they're fighting out.
	Cause we're doing it for too long.
	We're going to cause good trouble.
	Libs are f***ing around up in Minnesota.
	Right?
	Oh, such a shitty fucking cover.
	Yeah.
	Lives were on the line.
	This is just she shouldn't have worn a short skirt.
	You can't have your house robbed if you don't have a house.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm going to go pee real quick.
	All right.
	I'm going to do a monologue real quick.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Give him something good.
	Listen.
	We've all been there.
	Boom.
	I don't know what to say.
	Bum. Bum. Bum.
	It was gone.
	No, this is like this stuff just makes me so fucking mad because the people cannot see this objectively.
	And yeah, I mean, obviously I see these shootings and I go, holy shit, this is crazy.
	But there's people who will tell me their criteria.
	They say, listen, I'm okay with legal immigration.
	And then they will defend Liam Ramos' dad being taken, who was following the legal immigration process.
	Yeah.
	Like, yeah, right?
	He should have fixed it.
	Does he have 5G?
	Yeah.
	Well, he should have done it faster.
	It shouldn't have taken him 20 years.
	If Nikki Minaj can get a gold card, there's no answer for any of this shit that satisfies anyone if you say it.
	If you're perceived left and you're talking to somebody from the right, they're just going to be like, there's nothing you can say.
	Like, those people will argue against you.
Deceptive Clips and Context 00:15:08
	I'd shoot myself in the head for that.
	I don't think you should get shot in the head.
	And they'll be like, I think I should get shot in the head.
	That's how much I don't agree with you.
	Like, that's how it always comes down to.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	No, you wouldn't have to because the shooters will be sticker.
	Like, it's just, it's so fucking, it's, it's antithetical to everything that they've ever talked about.
	It's so fucking what's black is white.
	What's up is down.
	You know what I mean?
	Somebody asked me why I don't run stop signs.
	I did the other day.
	It shouldn't.
	It cost me fucking $320.
	Fuck, really?
	Yeah, that sucks.
	Damn.
	Oh, you got busted for it?
	Yeah, did it right in front of a fucking cop.
	Can you believe that?
	Oh, man.
	Did you get shot, though?
	I did get shot.
	Dangerous eyes because I was like, hurry up.
	And that's not a lie.
	I told him to fucking hurry up.
	Did you really?
	I did.
	I said, hurry up.
	Tuesday, January 27th.
	Is Trump backing down or doubling down on Minnesota?
	Let's get to the bottom of that.
	Skeleton crew, we appreciate everyone who has come in.
	weather is still awful and uh we know that many of you are probably watching live for the first time because you're this why does this button undo Guys, you saw it started off with that button done.
	It's done.
	Proof.
	It's going to come undone again.
	It's like when you have two.
	You're going to do it, two positively charged magnets.
	It's like my shirt is just going nipples.
	It's not only Fans Day.
	Let's go.
	Why did you send me this adult photo?
	I didn't send you an adult photo.
	It's a picture of it.
	My phone warned me and said it might be getting sensitive content.
	Is that true?
	It can.
	Oh, wow.
	I turn that off, though, because I like it in the middle.
	You like getting fucking tits and pussies.
	Yeah.
	And dicks.
	Yeah.
	I get all of it from this, our group chat.
	Any of these fuckers ever fall out of the ceiling and do a right?
	Okay.
	Skeleton crew, weather's still bad.
	But weren't we?
	Wasn't there a video of I forgot to explain the picture.
	Yeah, it's his shirt fully opening.
	No, yeah, this is a this definitely is a hot photo.
	Well, he looks scared and looks honestly a decade older since he does look older.
	I think he stopped dying his beard.
	Does it look like he grabbed like the chest area of what would be the right side of his shirt there and then gave himself a little titty twister?
	Oh, it does.
	Yeah, I mean it's like the fabric is like pulled.
	It was like a pinch.
	There's a pinch on that side.
	He just doesn't understand an Oxford.
	It's not that hard.
	No.
	But also, it would come unbuttoned and then it would.
	Why did it open?
	I don't know.
	I think he just has it open.
	I think he does have it open.
	I'm going to show the hamburger meat underneath that thing.
	Okay.
	I want to tell you something.
	It is very, very easy to deceive you.
	Probably not you if you're watching because you're aware.
	We try and make you aware of the tricks, but it's very easy to deceive those the average American right now out there in public consuming media.
	And by the way, that's not because anyone is stupid.
	That includes doctors.
	That includes rocket scientists.
	That includes chemical engineers.
	There are tricks.
	There are tools of the trade that are used.
	And I'll just use one example to show you how clear it can be.
	You can be deceived to believe that an innocent party is guilty and a guilty party is innocent simply by the time codes, meaning simply by the start point of the clip and the end point of the clip.
	So first he accidentally insults his entire audience.
	Well, then he recovers, though, because he's like, the average American would be duped, but not you.
	Not you.
	You're a genius.
	And other genius things are like you.
	Yeah, and he also sounded almost like he was going to like come out of it all and be like, let me show you how easy it is.
	For the past 15 years, I've had a podcast lying to you, and you never fucking knew.
	I've manipulated you to be paranoid and hateful.
	You had no idea.
	You thought that was a normal, okay way to feel.
	I placate your senses that I am putting up citations on my website.
	That won't be enough for you when I lie to you every day.
	Well, prepare yourselves, folks, for one of the dumbest skits, I mean, reenactments in history.
	And I will explain this to everyone.
	Let me show you, okay?
	Right now, I will show you a conflict that has taken place in this office, and you tell me who's the aggressor, who's the victim.
	No, don't.
	How's that feel?
	Ow, you deserve that.
	How's that feel?
	Cut it out.
	So that'd be comparable to the first clip that you guys may have seen where you go, this is a public execution.
	That seems pretty cut and dry.
	Yeah.
	So Steven's got a gun, he's pointing it at Tim, shoots him twice.
	Okay.
	And this is on a mock security camera angle, which is pretty cool.
	That's cool.
	Pretty cool.
	Again, Steven has a gun, shoots Tim.
	How's that feel?
	He's got a gun.
	I know that song.
	It's a hit.
	All right.
	Good guy, bad guy.
	Now, let me just rewind it.
	Time code.
	A few seconds.
	A part you didn't see.
	Does this change it?
	How does that feel?
	Ow, you deserve that.
	How's that feel?
	Cut it out.
	Oh, well, now that clearly seems pretty cut and dry.
	We thought that I was the aggressor.
	It turns out that Toolman was the aggressor.
	And it was even a callback with how's that feel?
	Where actually, in that case, it's completely justified.
	I got the Brian Callan in a cowsuit vibes from that one, from just the audio, if I'm being honest.
	I'll tell you, I see a screenshot of that all the time.
	It's in one of their ads.
	Oh, really?
	In one of his ads.
	A Brian being whipped?
	Yeah, with Will Sasso in there as well.
	Yeah, unfortunately.
	Can I say the acting in this is especially bad?
	I think it's intentional.
	Hey, don't shoot me.
	I don't understand.
	Okay.
	Do you like that shooting?
	Just to explain, catch everyone up when we rewind a little bit.
	Tim actually has the gun, shoots Steven, and the gun is wrestled away by Steven, who then shoots him and said, How's that feel?
	Right.
	Does he do that thing in Men in Black where he points a gun at him and he switches it out of his hand real quick and points it back in his face?
	No, they awkwardly wrestle it from each other.
	They do that thing oftentimes where they're like, little feather water.
	You know, when they're acting like Edgar suits.
	I need to rewatch that movie.
	What if I rewind it?
	Another few seconds, and can you tell who the aggressor and the victim is?
	Does the context change something?
	Tim, I'm going to murder you by putting this knife in your face.
	Not if I stop you with this gun.
	How does that feel?
	Bait!
	Ouch!
	No, don't!
	How's that feel?
	Ow!
	You deserve that!
	How's that feel?
	Cut it out!
	And see, even in context, none of this is real.
	So keep that in mind next time you pass judgment on a clip.
	Oh, so Alex Preddy didn't die?
	Bystander!
	And to be clear, what you saw at the end of that, that one is in context.
	There was no justification.
	No, he always gets beaten.
	That one is actually cut.
	Just for fun.
	So comment below.
	Does that help illustrate it?
	Because before you even get to the idea of AI, you'll see people go, AI.
	Or, you know, they inserted something here.
	Or they deliberately cut out an angle.
	All you need to mislead the public is that.
	I can give you some examples of that.
	What's not that?
	Stephen, do you think your listeners are fucking stupid?
	What is the first thing they ask when they see a clip?
	What is the first thing, the number one thing they ask when they see a clip?
	What happened before that?
	That's what they all fucking say.
	They know, dude.
	Yeah.
	Well, I wanted to do an elaborate skit slash reenactment.
	No, it's Tim saying, read this line on a piece of paper.
	I'm bad guy.
	No, I'm bad guy.
	No, I'm bad guy.
	None of it's real.
	So what you saw wasn't real.
	Well, yeah, this is true.
	Don't trust your eyes.
	A third grader would be like, oh.
	You might have seen him get shot, right?
	Like you're saying, you might have seen him.
	We did this all the time on Red Eye.
	Me and Amy Schumer were actually buds.
	We set that up, dude.
	Like, you got, head, you guys got rocked on that one, stupid.
	Yeah, we actually left that guy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She got Ozembic skinny and started dating Steven.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, she's a Zionist, so we're like getting really close, huh?
	The world, man.
	The fucking world.
	But no, I agree.
	I don't know if this was what he had in mind the day before when he said he was going to do a skit slash.
	I wonder if he thought this was like groundbreaking, too.
	It seemed like he did.
	It's pretty bad.
	They tried it eight or nine times and he just couldn't land it.
	He's like, I don't know, man.
	Like, it's kind of like Gerald times in.
	He's like, yeah, it's kind of like we're not watching it through a cell phone, Steven.
	It looks off.
	Like, everything looks too real.
	What's the rest of the context that we hadn't discussed the day before, you know, that Alex actually was shown behaving?
	It didn't change anything.
	He crossed the street.
	Oh, you're right.
	Okay.
	Did you see a crosswalk?
	Was there a crosswalk lighting flashing?
	No.
	Did he even have a flashing hand?
	He started walking when it had a countdown.
	Oh, good.
	It had a flashing hand with a countdown, and he started walking during that.
	Shoot him.
	Stupid.
	Speaking of context, he brings up some things from the near past, including I'm not talking about neo-Nazis or white supremacists who should be condemned totally.
	But outside of that, you had very fine people on both sides.
	Does that change the context?
	How many times do you need to run into this until you start understanding?
	The media is not fulfilling its job.
	They're supposed to inform you.
	I would argue that it's a crime against humanity when they deliberately misinform you.
	And we're seeing that a lot.
	You think it's a crime against humanity?
	People who say this can never tell you anyone that they trust.
	You ask them who they trust and they go, I trust my eyes, my ears.
	I do my own research.
	I do FOIA requests.
	No, you don't.
	No, you don't.
	Fuck off.
	So the peacefully and patriotically thing, which, of course, you know, Trump, he did say this.
	It's very brief.
	It's early on in the speech, around the 18 to 20 minute mark.
	And it is outweighed by repeated calls to fight like hell, show strength, and take back our country.
	TV tells them to march towards the Capitol to pressure weak Republicans.
	Specifically, though, I want to do some quotes.
	We will never give up.
	We will never concede.
	It doesn't happen.
	You don't concede when there's theft involved, which is very early that he said, and please don't be violent, right?
	And then he says, we won this election and we won it by a landslide.
	It wasn't even close, which is, again, roughly 10 minutes in this speech.
	Close election.
	I know that everyone's here and will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard, which again, he said, that's interesting.
	And then he says, you'll never take back our country with weakness.
	You have to show strength and you have to be strong, which is about 30, 40.
	Of heart, he meant.
	Of heart.
	Yeah, strong of heart.
	And then he did the Justin Bieber heart throbs.
	Oh, that's kind of cool.
	And then he said, I'm giving my heart to you, like Elon Musk.
	Exactly.
	Even weirder.
	I'm going to hard pivot real quick.
	Do you guys know the ASL for Nazi?
	No, but I'd love to learn.
	Check it out.
	Interesting.
	Then he said, We're going to walk down to the Capitol.
	We're going to try and give our Republicans the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help.
	We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
	Which is nearing the hour mark.
	That's mob talk for we're going to scare people to change their minds.
	We're going to check them down.
	And then he said, We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore, which is about 70 minutes into the speech, which is very, very far over an hour from the point when he said, Peacefully.
	Peacefully and patriotically, yes, yes.
	And also about that whole marching down to the Capitol thing.
	Weren't those folks in the street?
	Yeah, they'll be dead.
	Too bad there was probably a bunch of cops in the midst.
	Most people walked on major streets like Pennsylvania Avenue from the eclipse.
	The ellipse to the capital.
	Someone drove into Mitsubishi and they all got out.
	That march itself actually wasn't covered by any permits.
	I don't know if you knew this.
	Whoa.
	So once the crowd spilled into the roadway, it was generally not legally authorized.
	Can't be in the street in English.
	The National Park Service permit for the ellipse rally explicitly did not authorize a march from the ellipse to the Capitol because organizers repeatedly told officials that there would be no march.
	Internal watchdogs and news reports later showed that the main group behind the rally privately expected Trump to call for the march and even texted about keeping that plan a secret from the park service.
	Oh, cool, cool, cool.
	Kind of interesting.
	The large demonstrations in D.C. marching in the streets normally requires advanced coordination and a permit that specifies the route.
	Marching without that, especially blocking vehicle traffic is typically unlawful and punishable by death.
	That's what I heard.
	Yeah.
	I heard that the cars are allowed to just keep driving.
	And here's the thing.
	I'm only saying that because that's what they would say.
	I want to be very clear.
	Yes.
	Because I think that I don't think that blocking traffic is as big of a deal.
	Well, remember the trucker protest about the vaccines?
	Yeah.
	They were blocking traffic with their cars.
	They sure were.
	Is that allowed?
	Well, in their trucks.
	Yeah, big trucks.
	That's in the box every intersection.
	Because you block the traffic with the traffic.
	Interesting.
	You can block it.
	You can block it with a big truck as long as you're not pulling down the gates of the asylum.
	Exactly.
	If we can't make eye contact, then he can't see me.
	And then Stephen brings up the Unite the Rights, find people on both sides thing.
	Yeah, when Heather Hare died.
	We'd be better off conceding the whole both sides context thing at this point.
	Maybe.
	He said, Excuse me, they don't put themselves, the neo-Nazis, down as neo-Nazis.
	And you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
	You had in that group, excuse me, excuse me.
	I saw the same pictures as you did.
	You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name, which is interesting.
	Later in the exchange, he says, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
Disrespectful Altercation Edited 00:14:32
	But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?
	And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
	And I guess maybe.
	But the core right side of the crowd at Charlottesville's Unite the Right rally was overwhelmingly made up of organized extremist groups.
	Of course.
	Not a merely moderate crowd with a few extremists mixed in.
	Jason Kessler.
	Yep.
	The event itself was explicitly organized by white supremacists with the stated goal to unify the American white nationalist movement.
	And the listed speakers of the groups were alt-right, neo-Nazi, neo-Confederate, Ku Klux Klan, and similar organizations.
	The ADL, which they don't care about, identified about 200 of the estimated 500 to 600 rally supporters and described the event as hundreds of right-wing extremists, including racist skinheads, clan members, and other white supremacists, especially the organized far-right.
	Oh, I forgot, though, the August 11th torch march, the one where the 200 marchers were chanting Jews will not replace us.
	Jews will not replace us.
	Blood and soil, White Lives Matter.
	So, when the majority, two-thirds of the crowd at this event are racist extremists, I don't think you should be saying very fine people on both sides.
	No, because if you just zoom out and look at the sides, oh, that's a racist side.
	There were a few fine people.
	Jason Kessler is a neo-Nazi.
	He says you're the neo-Nazi.
	But if you look, look in the future, Charlie Kirk funded January 6th.
	So they're kind of paying for busloads of people.
	Wait, organize protests.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, God.
	They weren't even on signal.
	They were on like the coveted eyes as like a group message thing, right?
	They were just editing emails.
	Eric is watching.
	Oh, my God.
	That's a great half-name.
	Stupid, dumb.
	Bullshit.
	They were on the sidewalk.
	And these officers just chose to aggress them.
	The officers came to them.
	Remember that?
	And we'll go through the goalposts moving because now we're not having a discussion as to whether ICE or whether DHS, whether they have the right to deport people.
	It's simply, hey, wasn't this guy a bloodthirsty murderer?
	That's what they do.
	They do it dishonestly so that you have to correct it and you can't actually discuss the root issue at hand.
	So there you go.
	You see that?
	My gosh, that looks like ICE was out of line.
	They were clearly an aggressor at the very least.
	And it was an execution.
	Well, now let's pull back.
	Wait, were they on the sidewalk where ICE was the aggressor?
	Does this change it?
	Steven, it doesn't change anything.
	It doesn't change Jack's shit.
	Okay, but do you feel like maybe now he should have got 10 bullets in his body?
	How about now?
	What if I told you he kicked out the taillight of a truck on the street?
	All right, well, we'll get to that.
	People who are denying that this is bad are treating it like a binary.
	Like you either have to fully support it, the shooting, or be fully against the shooting.
	It's not like that.
	They will not concede that anything happened wrong.
	Yeah.
	It's like.
	It was a quagmire.
	Imagine it this way: if you owned a restaurant, okay, and somebody dropped and broke a plate versus them smashing the plate on the ground.
	There's a big difference.
	There's a big difference.
	Both of them ended up with a broken plate.
	You can also be like, oh, this fucking employee keeps dropping fucking plates without being like, I hate him.
	You know, like, there's a range here.
	There's a spectrum to how people can feel about this.
	And it's so clear to most people that it is on the far end of the spectrum.
	This is an aggressive situation where people, somebody was killed.
	And you can fire someone or you can use the shards of the plate to slash at them.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And why don't these people, Stephen, I'm talking about, why don't they just go, they didn't need to kill that guy.
	I don't think it was intentional, but they fucked up big.
	Give him a couple days.
	He might change your mind.
	I fucking don't think so.
	So now we've gone from innocent people on the sidewalk who were assaulted by ICE.
	This was a knight in shining armor protecting a lady.
	To, okay, well, maybe they were out there in the street, but you know, that's just, it's confusing.
	That was one time.
	Or were they doing this potentially all day long, impeding a lawful process and putting other people at risk?
	Was this going on throughout the day?
	New footage.
	This is not the same altercation as what you see in the video.
	That means they're telling them, stay off the road.
	You can be on the sidewalk.
	And now they cut it to the other footage.
	Now, do you see that?
	What CNN did?
	They didn't even show the full new clip.
	They cut out the middle section.
	We may have edited on this one.
	I'll give you a little context.
	So what CNN right now, and they're showing the full one right now.
	They may have edited out a little bit of it there to kind of kind of loop it back through.
	But they are spinning this as the cop should have known better.
	He was totally fine.
	And I'm like, this guy was in the street the whole time.
	Do you hear what he yells?
	Yeah.
	Do you hear what he yells at the beginning of that clip at the officer?
	He yells.
	Play it again, Tim, for toolman, for people who don't hear this.
	Do not touch me.
	Now listen. There you go.
	Do you hear that?
	Here's what he's saying.
	I'm here.
	You are the one in traffic.
	That's his job.
	Would you tell that to a traffic cop?
	So what does it show you?
	This is someone who is there to start trouble.
	This is someone who is looking for conflict.
	This is someone who is looking to disrupt someone from doing their job.
	And he was doing it all day, very much like Renee Goode, who was following and blocking traffic and got warnings.
	These are crimes.
	Right.
	No, that doesn't actually change anything.
	I really love their like, man, whoever edited this video is clearly a fucking schemer.
	Oh, we did that, actually.
	I mean, uh.
	Yeah, he thinks that fucking traffic cops are the same thing as like ICE agents, like shooting people.
	Yeah.
	Like, like the lady who's looking for like making sure that you put your credit card or your like old school, put your change in there and, you know, got your two-hour mark or whatever.
	In the meter?
	Yeah, she's waiting for you to come back.
	She's actually hiding behind your passenger like back.
	And when you just shoot you in the back.
	Yeah, she just, I'm just saying, she just shoots you through the window when you sit in your car.
	Ja-Pow!
	Like right in the back of the head.
	She's waiting for it.
	That leans over the hood.
	That's generally like for a couple of quarters that you owe the city at this point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You call the coroner.
	At the beginning of this thing, he said something about, you know, yeah, they're following them around and they're putting other people at risk.
	And it's like, what does that mean?
	Like, Predty had a gun on him, but like, who had their gun drawn?
	Who, you know what I mean?
	Like, well, who are like in the streets with like these like being a threatening force?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, we have an itchy trigger finger.
	You've seen this in the last like two weeks.
	Fuck around, find out.
	You keep hearing this come out of there.
	And it's like, they're inciting shit.
	They're the ones telling you, if you film me, you're going, you're a domestic terrorist.
	If you film me, you're on a list.
	Yeah, you're in our database.
	I'm stealing your phone and pushing your grandmother over, you know, and breaking her hip against the sidewalk here.
	And it's like, there's like Predi's putting who at risk?
	Explain this, Steven.
	Well, no, he's observing detention of an undocumented image.
	He's putting them at risk.
	Duh, dude.
	I saw an ICE agent, I don't know who this was or when this happened, that they said to somebody, if you raise your voice, I'll erase your voice.
	Yeah, I heard that one too.
	Why don't they just change their name from ICE to NICE?
	Nice.
	That'll fix it.
	National Immigration Customs Enforcement.
	We got customers.
	That's a great idea.
	Yeah.
	We can rebrand it.
	Yeah, yeah, that's it.
	We can debate it.
	We're nice agents now.
	Judge Schumer's like, we have to call them nice agents.
	Honestly, that's a shit though.
	That's a troll.
	I could see that.
	I can see that too.
	Sorry.
	I got to cut the whole nice agent joke.
	It wasn't that good.
	All right.
	What's the context?
	What do we.
	But the context now, what do we have that is a through line with Renee Goode and Alex Predty?
	Not just that they were disrespectful.
	Not just that they arguably committed assault against an officer.
	Wait.
	Not just that they were a clear and present danger.
	Not just that they were committing multiple crimes, including felonies leading up to it, but that they were doing this professionally all day.
	They were treating it like their job to disrupt, to disturb, to impede, to obstruct.
	Were they doing it like it was their job or were they doing it professionally?
	Because those are two different things and they're mutually exclusive.
	Words don't have definitions.
	Smart guy.
	These are professional protesters who are not paid.
	They're dedicated to what they believe is the right thing to do right now.
	Someone called TJ Henderson because this guy thinks he's smart.
	I feel stupid because I don't know who TJ Henderson is.
	Taj Maori.
	Oh, man.
	Never mind.
	It's a Disney joke.
	I mean, someone else knows.
	He's Steven.
	Steven's laughing right now.
	He's an EC.
	Steve loves it, dude.
	Jared, what was your favorite Disney movie?
	Brink.
	Brink.
	It's a pretty good one.
	Other than Xenon Girl of the 21st Century.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We all know Xenon Girls.
	Is she okay?
	I don't know.
	I thought she was sick.
	She was sick.
	Kirsten Storms.
	All right.
	One of the big things people have said is that, oh, they overreacted by shoving them.
	That was an overreaction by the officers.
	I was like, I don't even grant that.
	But this puts that to bed.
	I've already told them to get back on the sidewalk.
	I've actually arrested one of these other people over here.
	I've calmly put my hand on him and said, hey, you have to get out of the street.
	Now he's doing it again.
	So that kind of shows you why there was a little bit more force applied that second time.
	Right now, CNN is saying sources Predty's rib was broken a week before he was killed when federal agents tackled him during a protest.
	So this guy's doing this all the time?
	Getting in tussles with these officers all the time, so much so that he got tackled and his rib got broken potentially.
	I want to walk through an exercise.
	That's a week ago.
	We're just zooming out again.
	Calm down.
	Before that, Alex Predi's mother turned down Trump for a date in 1972.
	Oh, shit.
	Why isn't she dead?
	Back up even further.
	Okay.
	Trump's father stabbed his mother's mother.
	Is that right?
	Is that true?
	Back up further.
	Oh, disrespectful.
	Do you remember that officer gently touched Preddy?
	He said, hey, man, can you please back up a little bit?
	Do you remember when Predi assaulted that officer by also touching him?
	He had that gun.
	Preddy never did anything other than put his arm in front of the officer when the officer was shoving and pepper spraying a woman.
	Yeah, a woman just present.
	But that's their, oh, this is actually legal assault.
	I heard a conversation on Pierce Morgan, our favorite guy, the other day, where one of the officers on that panel was saying that that was assault.
	And if we're going to play the assault game, I think that an officer calmly touching Predty, which didn't happen, it's a bullshit excuse.
	And you can be disrespectful to an officer.
	Yeah, you're allowed to.
	Totally, yeah.
	And we wouldn't have to have legal observers if they had their own body cams and faces out and whatever.
	If they didn't do crimes, you wouldn't have to observe their crimes.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And if you were doing everything by the book, you shouldn't be afraid of people watching you do it.
	This is a job.
	It's not your private life.
	Steven has a, I mean, this is clearly planned, probably done through the run-through, but does another act out here.
	Oh, wow.
	He requests that Gerald come up to him and they go to the wide in the studio.
	As long as Gerald, you don't mind just walking over to me and people seeing your flood pants.
	He's very tall.
	He should buy custom pants.
	This is what this would be.
	And this is actually less of a distance travel.
	Let's say Gerald comes over here and says, Hey, Stephen, I need you to stay at your desk.
	Okay, all right.
	You should go to your desk.
	Okay.
	Stay.
	All right.
	He's instructed me to stay at my desk.
	This is my vehicle.
	All right.
	He goes back.
	Okay.
	You can go grab a seat.
	Get yourself.
	Make yourself comfortable.
	Okay.
	Now picture what I'm about to do three, four, five more times.
	Steve has gone over to Gerald's desk.
	Walking over across the street.
	Great whistle.
	Fuck you, pig.
	Fuck you, Gestapo.
	Fuck you, Ice.
	And that's going on all day.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All day.
	You can argue that you don't want someone to be shot, but in no world can you argue that I am anything other than the aggressor and crossing the street to blow a whistle in the ear of ICE.
	You do realize that members of ICE have experienced injuries as well, too.
	You're aware of that?
	Pierced eardrums, fractures, dislocated fingers.
	We just sort of skim over that.
	To what level should we tolerate aggression?
	Indefinitely, I guess.
	I've had the worst day at work.
	That's a justification.
	This is the justification that guys used to beat their wives at their houses when they said they had a bad day at work.
	Yeah, because I had a tough time.
	I can't handle my job.
	I can't handle the emotions of my job.
	Pay me $47,000 a year to do it.
	I was just kind of shocked by his assumption that he's in the right explaining this.
	Yeah, Stephen, you can go yell at Gerald.
	Yeah, you're allowed to do that.
	He's allowed to leave.
George's Shocking Assumption 00:14:53
	You think that's proving a point?
	He's acting as if it's just as casual as an office involved.
	Yeah, Gerald in this situation isn't violently attacking somebody or trying to detain citizenship.
	Separate families in a situation where you disagree with that.
	Right?
	That's him sitting at his desk.
	No one's going to ICE agents to the guys who are going to be able to do that.
	Either biggest Burger King, just like fucking around.
	Hey, man, how's it going?
	Yeah, we're working on cases.
	Fuck, that's not happening.
	No.
	I mean, it should.
	Thursday, January 29th, new video and new maps by both of us.
	Today.
	Yeah, that's today.
	Jumping right into it.
	Let's see if you notice a pattern and if your Hollywood brethren notice it too.
	Now, here's just a hint.
	If it's something that is so blatantly obvious, everyone can see crimes being committed, but the narrative stays the same anyway from the left.
	That means it was a premeditated narrative and they have to stick to it.
	They can't pivot.
	That means they always knew it was a lie.
	Here is the latest video of Alex Predi and his interactions with the officers, the peace-loving nurse that we all know him to be.
	This is a moment the news movement filmed on January 13th in Minneapolis, showing a man who appears to be Alex Predi interacting with federal immigration agents 11 days before Border Patrol shot and killed him.
	Our footage was analyzed by the BBC, whose facial recognition technology confirmed his identity to a 97% degree of accuracy.
	On the morning of January 13th, our team received a tip that federal agents were blocking a street at the corner of East 36th and Park Avenue in Minneapolis.
	He looked scared of ice.
	We arrived around 10.15 a.m. Just there to protect observers shouting at the agents as they walked back to the middle of the house.
	When they started driving away, the man kicked their taillight.
	An agent then got out of the vehicle, grabbed him, and pushed him to the ground.
	And unfortunately, let him go.
	Right?
	That's not resisting arrest, that's, watch this.
	That's fighting a cop.
	That's fighting an officer.
	During the altercation, agents fired tear gas and pepper balls into the crowd.
	He does all that and then is yelling to the bottom of the table.
	They continue to hold the man down before they retreat and he walks away.
	He shouldn't have.
	What?
	They should have put a man.
	Man in our footage is a good idea.
	He's wearing a similar outfit to what Predi was wearing on the day he was killed.
	What appears to be a gun is also visible above his waistband.
	In that instance, after causing damage to an officer's car with a gun very clearly in view, he is aggressively approaching an officer for a third, fourth, fifth time.
	Keep in mind, these are only the two examples that we have on video.
	11 days apart.
	How much you want to bet he was out there every day or almost every day?
	How much you want to bet that these officers knew him by name?
	How much you want to bet that these officers saw that gun, saw this guy escalating?
	Know that that's the one who broke the taillight.
	That's the one who will attack your car.
	By the way, he's got a gun on him.
	He's always carrying a gun and he's very aggressive.
	Just keep an eye on him.
	Wait, does that change that he did anything differently?
	He shouldn't have been killed.
	Yeah, they're like, who looks scared of ICE sarcastically?
	Well, maybe no one should assume that their life is in danger.
	Bad to block the streets.
	Good point.
	They were in the middle of the street.
	Yeah, I think that he was on ICE's side here.
	He was kicking that car dude.
	Yeah, he was upset about them blocking the street.
	Sure.
	We got to get this rig out of here.
	Get this thing out of here.
	And he kicked it.
	You know, there was some confusion.
	He kicked it harder than he intended.
	Sure.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	And he happened to break the taillight.
	Listen, the manufactured narrative is falling apart.
	It's falling apart.
	Here's the thing.
	Whatever he did, he looks like he probably committed a crime there.
	Yeah.
	We'll never know because he was shot dead.
	Because he was murdered at the street.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because that is not a crime that means that you should be killed.
	Well, hold tight.
	How much do you want to bet?
	Also, this is the problem with social media.
	Grok said that just a correction.
	It's not actually a crime.
	It's just a misdemeanor.
	It's a minor property damage charge.
	I was asking our lawyer here.
	Kicking out the taillight of an officer's vehicle, isn't that different when it's actually in authority?
	Can we ask our lawyer, George?
	George, isn't it?
	George?
	George?
	There's probably two felonies in that video.
	Okay.
	Probably two felonies.
	So Grok is wrong.
	Do either of those alleged felonies carry the death penalty?
	Oh, no.
	I don't think any of them.
	Then it doesn't fucking matter, Steven.
	Like, that's it.
	It just doesn't fucking matter.
	And this applies to everybody.
	I wasn't out here saying that you should kill all the Jan Sixers.
	Just some of them.
	I didn't say that.
	Obviously.
	None of us said, like, oh, it's cool Jan Sixers.
	Of course not.
	We just said, have them go through the justice system and be tried.
	And then Trump said, never mind, you can get out.
	Yeah, you guys are all cool.
	And now they're all ICAN.
	I was looking at the hot one that stole Pelosi's laptop.
	Remember her?
	I don't.
	He's a really big Nick Fuentes person at this point.
	Oh, okay.
	So that's kind of a bummer, right?
	Yeah.
	No, no, you're 100% right.
	We don't even need to argue this.
	There's been no shift in the narrative.
	Kicking a car and spitting at an officer does not mean that you can't.
	Yeah, there's this guy at work.
	We all know he's a nurse, right?
	He's a long history of working.
	And taxes being drawn from his paycheck.
	He's easily paid for, you know, hundreds of lights at this point.
	He could break one.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's all right.
	Yeah.
	Everyone gets one.
	We all get one.
	He just dropped the buddy.
	Do you all see that?
	God, I wish I couldn't pull it exactly, but the person gets bit by a dog and they go to court over it.
	And the court rules that every dog gets one bite.
	Did you see this?
	No.
	I'm not going to harp on it, but we'll look into it later on.
	I think that's a great thing to investigate.
	That's a good thing.
	You're one little freebie.
	Your dog gets one bite.
	That's my taste.
	Kicking and breaking a taillight of a federal SUV is illegal, but in Minnesota, it would most certainly be treated as property damage vandalism charge.
	So misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor.
	Nasty misdemeanor.
	Yeah, not a serious felony.
	Intentionally damaging someone else's property, including a government vehicle, without consent.
	You can do it if it's like a bonus round of a Street Fighter video game.
	You can punch a car.
	And that's cool.
	But yeah, criminal damage to the property.
	Yeah.
	If the cost to repair the taillight is relatively low, which is like between $500 and $1,000 and no major safety service was interrupted, which I'd say that they're probably fine.
	It typically be charges as third-degree criminal damage to property.
	I don't care what is charged, as he shouldn't be.
	That's a dollar fine, man.
	That's a hefty fine.
	That's like 10 run-red light tickets in Austin.
	Oh, my God.
	Sorry.
	That's like 10 run-red light tickets in Occupy Texas.
	I think we know that he's in Austin at this point.
	I don't know.
	It's a bigger city.
	It's different.
	I saw them where I was living.
	Yeah, you doxed your entire life.
	That was two blocks from my house.
	So, yeah.
	Stephen, nothing has changed.
	This doesn't change anything.
	Let me put a fine point on it.
	Oh.
	Let's just use the examples of martyrs from the left.
	Let's only use the examples of people who have had a march or a magazine cover.
	I'm really sorry.
	Just use them.
	Let's see if we can find a through line.
	Act like you're a parent and you're trying to make an inference to give your children advice on how to stay alive and how to stay safe.
	Just those who've had a march or magazine.
	Trayvon Martin.
	Come out of Sony.
	He looked like Trayvon.
	Was he breaking the law when he was killed by George Zimmerman?
	Was he violently breaking the law?
	Okay.
	I think he kind of forgot that Trayvon Martin wasn't breaking the law at all.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He's just like a black in America, I think, is the crime.
	Stevens.
	Calling it out.
	And we see that George Zimmerman's like unemployed and homeless now.
	Good fucking riddance, man.
	What the hell?
	Every dog is entitled to one bite, tribunal rules.
	Denying women $5,000.
	Oh, imagine being the second bite.
	This is for the other shit.
	Two people get bit by a dog and one of them gets money, the other one doesn't.
	Damn it.
	Trayvon was walking back from a convenience store to his father's fiancé's home with Skittles and a drink.
	He didn't have any weapons.
	I walk and get Skittles and a drink all the time.
	Of course.
	Usually it's Harry Bow Cloud Puffs.
	And you got a guy fucking following you, asking about your backpack and stuff.
	Yeah, what's the fucking your backpack?
	No, dude, get the fuck out of here.
	Mike Brown, hands up, don't shoot.
	Was he breaking the law?
	Was he violently breaking the law?
	Was he beating a cop?
	Reach for his gun and then charge him again after, by the way, committing a violent crime, stealing cigarillos before that?
	Yeah, okay.
	Oh, cigarillos.
	Okay, so he stole some cigarettes and pushed past a clerk.
	And does that mean that he should be murdered?
	Is that justification for this behavior?
	How many Skittles?
	I think he's going to bring up freaking Cigarillos, not Skittles.
	Sonia Massey.
	Oh, I'm getting confused now.
	How many cigarillos?
	I'm not sure, a handful of them, I guess.
	I think that's the question.
	Yep.
	I want to know how many there were.
	Well, that makes sense.
	There's four in a pack, typically, I think.
	George Floyd.
	Is he breaking the law?
	Do we have 12 to 15 minutes of footage of officers accommodating him beforehand, putting him in a cop car, rolling down the windows, turning on the air conditioning until he asked to be put on the ground and violently resisted arrest?
	Okay.
	This one's crazy.
	I mean, listen.
	Sue Coleman here, can you stand on my neck?
	No, see, there's a huge difference between saying, I'm uncomfortable in this car, it's too hot, and outside face down on the ground with a knee on my neck.
	That's what I asked for.
	That's way more comfortable.
	It's like taking the phrase, I need this, like I need a bull in the head.
	Like, literally.
	Yeah, we can accommodate.
	And of course, this is outside of Cup Foods when he allegedly, George Floyd, passed a $20 bill that was counterfeit.
	I mean, it's a crime, but it's not a violent crime.
	Shouldn't be killed.
	And everyone else, these guys suck the dick of all these guys who do these financial crimes.
	I don't know what the fuck they're brought to do.
	20 or 20 million.
	He was on fentanyl.
	You didn't fucking know that at the time and probably wasn't out of the time at all.
	If George Floyd had a crypto coin, that's a real thing.
	That would be different.
	Yeah, you guys invested in fucking Black Rifle Coffee Club and you still didn't pull your fucking money back when that happened to you.
	Yeah.
	That rug, huh?
	Stupid.
	Renee Good.
	Is she breaking the law?
	Not was her steering wheel going left or right.
	Did she hit an officer with her car?
	And was she disregarding lawful orders to remove herself?
	I mean, that was illegal, what she did.
	But again, the maximum penalty for that, I think, was five years, which wouldn't have ever happened.
	Yeah, it's not justified.
	Nope.
	It's not black and white.
	It's not.
	You'll see Sean Grayson got sentenced 20 years today for killing Sonya Massey.
	No, I didn't know that.
	Alex Pretty.
	Was he breaking the law?
	Was he in the middle of the street causing a clear and present danger?
	Was he with people who had been asked to stay on the sidewalk multiple times before they approached again aggressively the cop blowing whistles in his face?
	And was Alex Pretty breaking the law violently for days beforehand?
	What?
	For days?
	For days.
	The one common thread here, it's not race.
	It's not class.
	It's not driving mobs.
	It's black.
	It's not political persuasion.
	It's ice.
	It is every single example.
	They were violently breaking the law in that moment or breaking the law in a way that would reasonably bring someone to conclude to the idea of violating or violent escalation.
	That's it.
	What's the through line beyond Trayvon Martin having not done anything?
	So let's not.
	The through line is be submissive like I am.
	Get down on your knees and suck the fascist dick like I do.
	The through line is low-level crimes committed by normal people who are then met with extreme, deadly violence from people who are under pressure.
	They're under pressure because their boss is telling them to do these things that they don't even need to do.
	That's not an excuse.
	I used to work in an airport.
	You think if I moved someone into another, like a jet bridge, that I'd be like, I'm just under pressure.
	And that's fine.
	I'm stressed.
	Listen, I know they got sucked in the engine.
	I'm stressed.
	I pushed a guy in the engine.
	No, that's so dumb.
	He shouldn't have been out outside, even though I made him go outside.
	This is just absurd.
	This is the dumbest.
	Dumbest, though.
	Yeah, speaking of, yeah.
	If you were to put this in an IQ test and say, hey, do you notice a fucking pattern?
	A six-year-old could give you the answer.
	I feel bad for him.
	No, not at all.
	And I've told you that misplaced sympathy actually hurts more people.
	That man should have been in a cell.
	Still be alive.
	Every single person there should have been in a cell, including just the woman going, piece of shit!
	What?
	Cuff him.
	Yeah, she just wasn't.
	It's not a violation of anyone's rights.
	Could you guys imagine a world where you kick a taillight out of an officer's car and you don't get your ass kicked?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Anyone?
	No.
	Yeah, no.
	It's not going to happen.
	Even if I thought the officer was a prick, if I kicked out his taillight and I felt his, I'd be like, nah, this makes sense.
	I would actually go into the situation assuming that they're going to be pricks.
	Right.
	Like, if I kick out anyone's taillight, they're going to be angry.
	A federal law enforcement agent might have a good chance of being an asshole.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Weird quiet part loud by Josh again.
	Just not really ever reading the room correctly.
	He's like, I think that cops are bad.
	I actually think that they're bad and scary and mean.
	Yeah, obviously.
	No, I think that if you kick out the taillight of a higher the rank, the bigger piece of shit they are.
Cops Are Bad 00:05:45
	Yeah, dude.
	You guys didn't know that?
	That's how you get the rank.
	You can expect to be arrested.
	Can I share with you guys an encounter I had with a cop in Oklahoma once?
	Sure.
	I ran a stop sign, stopped light, didn't even see it.
	Yeah.
	They slammed on their brakes to avoid T-boning me because they had the right-of-way.
	So I sighed and I pulled over.
	Of course.
	And they just left.
	They didn't even.
	Because they assumed that you felt bad enough.
	I learned my lesson.
	They just left.
	So you don't have to actually kill people to really get the point across.
	People can understand.
	Listen, I don't know.
	It sounds like kind of like toxic sympathy, honestly.
	So I think that maybe we should.
	Here's what I'll say about what he did.
	He should not have kicked out the taillight.
	No.
	And I think that's a good thing.
	And if that is a crime, it probably is a crime.
	Charge him with it.
	You can't vandalize things.
	Yeah.
	And then you go to court and you pay a fine.
	He shouldn't be dead.
	No, that's like the last thing.
	Yes.
	I think actually that means that you can vandalize things.
	Oh, you can?
	Well, if you have money.
	Yeah, yeah, you just pay for it.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	If you're a rich tier, criminal justice system, do whatever you want.
	Yeah, you can kind of just do whatever the fuck you want.
	Yeah, dude.
	That's the left and the right of the tiers, though, dude.
	So we've uncovered that it's actually this is a more that it's we're protecting capitalism.
	And capitalism is the state.
	That is what it's, you know, capitalism run amok.
	That's fascism, baby.
	And that's what we're at the long end of right now.
	Speaking of long, wrapping it up.
	And just as surely, we can point to the other examples on the right, whether it's Donald Trump, whether it's Charlie Kirk, whether it's yours truly.
	Hey, was Donald Trump breaking the law?
	Yeah.
	That rally in Butler?
	Breaking the law on his golf course?
	Or someone was attempting to take a shot?
	Was Charlie Kirk breaking the law or did he have a permit?
	We are not the same.
	And I'm tired of acting as though there is a discussion to be had.
	Because now you skim.
	Once you start discussing other facets, you get away from.
	No, Don't violently break the law.
	That's it.
	We're done here.
	Now.
	No, we're done here.
	What a simple, like a simpleton.
	Look at this.
	That's what it is.
	Earlier in the episode, he said something about like, I'm not saying write or die for the blue, no matter what.
	And it's like, you know, that's like, I know that I've said this on the show before.
	He's never said anything against the police or a police force or an occupied force or an established like the American Gestapo shooting his neighbor in the fucking back, mag dumping a fucking fuck Steven Crowder.
	Shut the fuck up.
	You spineless cunt.
	Shut up.
	That's just about all I can handle for this week.
	If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts.
	Can I tell you guys and the listeners one happy thing though?
	Of course.
	Kenny Omega is fucking wrestling again.
	I gotta see him do it last night.
	It was fucking sick as hell.
	Just telling you guys.
	Hell yeah, dude.
	Count your blessings because they're real and it's fun, right?
	So have a good week, everyone.
	I like all of you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Stay safe.
	It's been a long night.
	We're back, I guess, in the stoo.
	We're back.
	We're back.
	I'm leaving the country for like a month.
	Yeah, Dennis will be leaving again like he usually does.
	We might get a call in every once in a while from him.
	That'll be fun.
	When are you doing that?
	We got at least one more with you.
	I got one more full week here, and then I'm jet-setting for three weeks.
	Yeah, we got you.
	We got one more.
	I'll call in.
	But yeah, rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
	It's important to us.
	It means a lot.
	That's how I make my money.
	What?
	I sell the reviews.
	I was thinking for the month of February, we will pick one person who reviews our podcast and send them a free mug.
	And Valentine's Kisses.
	What?
	Could we make Steven Crowder Valentine's?
	Well, we could.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Should we?
	Find us on X, Dan Crowder, also Blue Sky.
	Same thing.
	I think we're on Upscrold as well.
	We haven't posted anything there yet, but that seems like a place where folks go.
	LadderthanCrowder.com, ladderwithcrowder.net slash flipper zero.
	It's been a really tough week.
	It's been a tough month.
	It's been a tough year.
	I'm only amazing.
	Jesus Christ.
	Impressed by the amount of people coming together to support each other and tomorrow.
	Speak their minds.
	Yeah, shout out to Minneapolis.
	Yeah.
	Shout out to Minneapolis.
	Honestly, if you know of a cause that we should be supporting financially with this, it would be wonderful to just send us some suggestions.
	We've got a lot of money from Soros.
	We ought to spend it somewhere.
	Yeah, honestly, it's like food stamps expires at the end of the month.
	I don't know how they do it.
	It's amazing.
	They take it out of my account.
	It's kind of crazy.
	But yeah, until next time, I'm Byron.
	I'm Dennis.
	And I'm Jared.
	Take care.
	You've been listening to an Audio Woll original produced by Byron McCoy.

Chapters

00:00:02 Sunday Surprise Call
00:04:12 Would You Be Surprised?
00:11:00 Pass Ganja, Double Salutes!
00:14:27 Chowdheads and Creamy Goodness
00:26:30 Dogs and Aggressivity
00:32:01 Paranoid Proposal
00:34:25 One Month Later
00:49:22 Alex Predty's Final Moments
01:04:17 Cameras as Pistols
01:19:56 Acting Out After Killing
01:24:41 Net Worth Controversies
01:30:13 Risk Nobody Takes
01:35:21 Deceptive Clips and Context
01:50:29 Disrespectful Altercation Edited
02:05:01 George's Shocking Assumption
02:19:54 Cops Are Bad