EPISODE 42: CONCEPTS OF A DEBATE (SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2024)
This week we do are darnedest LIVE to provide counter commentary to LwC folks commentary of the first (and likely last) debate. You've likely heard the phrase "raining cats & dogs", but not so much a former president lying about folks in Ohio eating them... The real time cope is palpable. Watch the entire stream for free at http://shrug.club Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder with Crowder.
My name's Byron.
And this is it, folks.
A very significant night.
The first and quite likely last presidential debate between former President Donald John Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris, live from the National Convention Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, which is a crucial battleground state.
90 minutes With two commercial breaks for Diet Coke and Nacho Cheese Doritos, moderated by Lindsay Davis and David Muir of the most deceitful network, the most unpleasant, the most vile ABC News.
The worst.
At least it isn't nasty George Flopadopoulos.
I think this is Slopidopolis.
Oh shoot, I think you're right.
One of the two.
There will be no audience.
No audience.
Is it gonna be like in N64 games where there's like flat cardboard cutout people who just do this?
I don't know.
We're here though.
Two moves, up and down hand.
We'll be watching through a screen.
I'm joined by Dennis.
Hey, what's up?
I'm here on wokeyoutube.com.
And there's Jared, the owner of wokeyoutube.com.
The proud owner of wokeyoutube.com, the founder of wokeyoutube.com.
Welcome to all my wokeyoutube heads.
It's nice to be here with you this evening.
Wow.
So yeah, we'll be watching Steven Crowder and some other mug clubbers.
I feel like we've established who they are by just watching the clips here as we get ready to start.
But yeah, they're probably going to talk over an irrational thing that Kamala says while clapping and cheering on Trump, giving advice as if they're YMCA basketball coaches.
I really anticipate them just being like, just like the dead quiet.
They're like, whoa!
He's speaking!
They love doing that.
It's really awesome.
Should be fun.
And yeah, thanks to the folks who are joining us live at wokeyoutube.com.
Just another shout out.
Absolutely.
We need to make a woke YouTube t-shirt, I think.
I think we got it.
I think that's right.
That might be next.
We can.
It's fine.
Yeah.
I don't know if we should... We're running a little late.
We have about 10 minutes.
I wanted to talk a little bit, before we dive into this debate, about the whole Mug Club undercover secret recording of Nicholas Biasi is the correct way to say his name.
I said it last week, probably Biase?
Biase or something?
I don't know.
So, yeah, spokesman for the Manhattan U.S.
Attorney's Office who said that Alvin Bragg's case against Trump was, quote, nonsense and a perversion of justice, at least according to some clips that Stephen released.
He also accused Bragg of stacking charges and rearranging things to make the case fit, suggesting that Bragg pursued the case against Trump to further his own political ambitions.
Have you been keeping up with this at all?
No.
So I have some clips.
Maybe if things get really, really boring, we'll jump through it.
We're running kind of late, so I doubt we will.
But yeah, the full unedited footage has not been released at this point, and neither has the identity of the undercover journalist.
Mug club army sergeant.
They're calling it the MCU now.
No, they aren't.
Oh my god.
They are embarrassed.
Stan Lee's gonna come back from the dead.
He does have the clipboard.
He is the coach.
Coach Crowder over here.
Coach Crowder of the MCU.
Yeah, and we have Acid Wash.
Wow, he's tan, too.
He's so tan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They did not match his foundation very well.
Nick DePaulo's on the couch, too.
And who's that in the back?
That looks like a former president.
Wait, current president.
Sorry, I was going to say former vice president, which is why they refer to Joe Biden back there.
That's him for sure.
Yeah, it looks like he just had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich the way that I used to eat them.
What's that style?
I used to just eat them down the middle so I'd have jelly on my face.
Gross.
You're a slob.
Yeah.
I thought it was like Mr. Ed style where you're just sticking peanut butter underneath your top lip talking like you're a horse.
Exactly.
That's what my parents got me to talk was by putting peanut butter in my mouth until it looked like I was.
So yeah, I do want to jump in though.
You said you don't, you haven't really been following much about this, this situation with the... Not about Mug Club Army or Mug Club Undercover or whatever it is.
It's funny because it's been, it's been really burning up the, uh, you know, the conservative media.
So it makes me kind of hopeful that it hasn't penetrated necessarily, that it might not be as big of a deal as everyone's making.
It's even saying that over 10,000, or sorry, pardon me, 10 million people have seen the clip that he put out about this.
Yeah.
I mean, Trump also has the biggest crowd size ever.
Exactly.
We will get to Trump in just a minute.
But yeah, this is a former friend, I guess current friend.
We talked about him not too long ago.
Greg Gutfeld had a little bit to say about this on his program just a few days ago.
Take for example this, in a secret recording for Steven Crowder's Mug Club, a spokesman for the Manhattan US Attorney's Office admits what we already knew.
The hush money case against Trump was nothing more than Alvin Bragg engaging in lawfare to boost his own political image.
Watch.
Those felonies did nothing to stop Trump from running.
No, in fact they made him more relevant.
Did that backfire?
It sure did.
Nonsense.
Disgusting.
And then I'll stop there.
We don't know what the thing is that they're referencing, of course.
The thing, dude.
Oh, the whole thing?
The whole thing.
He's out the whole thing, which means the whole thing.
They're just out to get him, which is insane.
Well, that one's obvious.
This guy's just drinking his own spit.
Well that one's obvious.
This guy's just drinking his own spit.
This is Nicholas.
Thank God for the secret hidden vagina cam.
Yeah.
Now we're talking.
He really is doing him, huh?
No, that's what you can expect from Fox News.
There were so many better dumb jokes he could have gone with.
Of course.
He went with vagina cam.
Vagina cam, yeah.
Well, that's Greg.
Little Chuck Berry humor.
We ran through a big list of folks on the last episode who were talking about this story.
Yeah, something I forgot to mention in the middle of this is during the immediate wake of them releasing this information, even though they had some neutral words about Zuckabuck not too long ago, like maybe two weeks, they immediately claimed that Facebook was censoring their story.
Which has been not true, but yeah.
And then this is, I think, the worst thing that could have happened did last weekend during Trump's rally in Wisconsin.
Yesterday, the top spokesman, one of the top people in the U.S.
Attorney's Office in Manhattan, that's a very respected southern district, very, very highly respected, was heard saying and was quoted exactly Wait, so he just said exactly.
Now listen to how quoted exactly goes in Trump's mind here.
Listen to him string these quotes together.
It's amazing.
Quote, honestly, I think this case is nonsense.
Now this is the boss of the whole thing.
No.
Every real estate person in New York does what Trump did.
Nobody's ever been charged with this before.
It's a perversion of justice.
He said that the DA's office was, quote, stacking charges against Trump and rearranging things just to make them fit the case.
Why are all three people wearing the same sunglasses?
Interesting.
I don't know why they don't do something.
They ought to drop it.
They shouldn't delay it.
They should drop it.
Drop all of it.
You guys ever been to Warped Tour?
So that's unfortunate that I mean that because of this mug club, pardon me, MCU investigation, undercover investigation by a journalist, that now Trump has a little bit more ammunition.
I hate that Stephen got Trump's attention because that's going to go to Stephen's head.
Of course it is.
Yeah, he's a lunatic at this point.
He thinks he's a god.
Are we jumping in?
Oh, they're on the, they're playing a different clip on NewsHour here.
Yeah, they're just playing stuff.
It's fine.
Here's to be simulcast.
Okay, good.
Perfect.
Just making sure I'm not missing anything here.
So, yeah, and then in a statement, to clear all this up, there's a statement that was made by Nicholas to the New York Post on the 5th of September, and I was going to read it, but then I also have Steven talking about it on one of the most recent episodes of his show, so I thought maybe that would be better.
This is on the episode Fallout, how the DOJ story is Hunter Biden Laptop 2.0, which I find very interesting.
Very SEO.
Yeah.
Not a review of the show, huh?
I guess not. - Tried to cover and made it so much worse.
He said, "I was recently made aware of a video where I regretfully made some statements in a private and social setting that don't reflect my views about two local and state prosecutions.
I said these things in an effort to please and impress someone I just met who was secretly filming me I'm deeply sorry to the local and state law enforcement officials working on these matters who deserve more respect than I showed them.
I should have known better.
He also went on to say, them titties though.
Which is not becoming for one of the most important courts of the land.
The guy speaking truth across the board, right?
Both the first statement and the last statement.
I just wanted to bring this in real quick.
This is Half-Asian Lawyer Bill Richman.
Oh, I've never actually watched this.
I've seen it a bit, but it's huge to experience some of this.
It's being a seeing.
People can watch the VOD if you missed it and you're just listening with your ears.
You can watch this for free.
At shrug.club.
Yes, exactly.
Or wokeyoutube.com.
No, let's keep wokeyoutube for the live stuff.
Okay, sorry.
Not on wokeyoutube.com.
We can't just keep changing wokeyoutube.
Shrug.com.
We just keep changing it.
Like, we can't do that.
It forever forwards to something else.
It's like a mystery box.
I just don't think that that works with links the same way.
I think it should.
You know, it's kind of like stumble upon.
Bring that back.
Oh, that's kind of interesting.
So I was going to talk a little bit more about him, but yeah, we're running a little bit late.
So I'm going to jump into, uh, I mean, we should listen in.
Let's see what they're saying, what they're talking about.
Oh, Perry, counter-attack, question, and the x-factor.
These are the keys.
I have to answer.
Remember, yeah, remember how I said he's like a coach?
He's been playing.
Let's see, where's it at?
All right, let's, where?
- He got her keys to victory.
- Remember, yeah, remember how I said he's like a coach? - But in the end frankly, the coach, yes.
- He's been playing, let's see, where is it at? - She just said my, he should, Perry Broadley, get to her with specifics.
She's not gonna answer on the economy right now.
What would you do as president?
- Well, where, I know I got it.
Okay, let's read this.
Sorry about that, folks.
Crowder's keys to victory.
Of course, this is clipboard Crowder.
He's going to sit on this.
That's how you do a four star.
That's how you do a four star.
Yeah.
Parry, which is disabled, calmless attacks.
Disabuse?
Is that a word?
I guess.
Disabuse?
Yeah, Dennis, you read this.
Okay.
Perry disabused Kamala's attacks in the quickest, most efficient way possible.
Counter and attack hit Kamala with the results of her destructive policies.
Numbers are Trump's best friend.
They are not Trump's best friend.
No, and he doesn't remember that.
He doesn't know the numbers.
He doesn't know how to do that.
That is probably the worst thing he could ever go for.
Question, put Kamala on the spot and make her articulate her views, which she can do.
Trump cannot.
And X-Factor, make Kamala answer for her flip-flops.
Is she going to be wearing flip-flops?
I hope not.
I hope she's wearing closed toes.
I hope she has some Adidas slides on.
That'd be kind of sick.
That'd be so sick.
And we, I mean, quickly we'll jump over to her keys to victory.
And then I see balloons are dropping, so it seems like people... There's no notes, just bullet points.
Let's skip it.
We got to get in here.
Let's get to live.
Maybe they have a delay because they're gonna say fucked up shit.
And also, yeah, we should say apologies if they say anything messed up.
Yeah, like we're weird.
That's not good.
If they say any slurs.
- That's fucked up shit.
And also, yeah, we should say apologies if they say anything messed up.
Yeah, like we're weird, that's not good if they say any slurs.
- Well, I mean, we are critical of content, right?
- Uh-oh.
Gerald's Any Hole Will Do is his key to victory.
And this is a one-star winning style.
Yeah.
Okay, but real quick, debate rules, the real rules, no opening statements.
Each candidate will have two minutes.
I wonder if they'll go over that.
Do you think they'll go over that at the beginning of the debate?
Oh, they might.
Two minutes for closing statements.
Candidates will stand behind podiums throughout the debate so Trump doesn't get to stalk around like he did with Hillary.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
That was so weird.
That was the worst.
Props and pre-written notes are prohibited on stage.
Topics or questions will not be discussed beforehand.
Trump was gonna bust out his top hat and cane.
He was gonna do a little Andrew Lloyd Weber number.
The debate's gonna start with the crash of the chandelier.
Oh, that'd be kind of fun.
Candidates are not allowed to pose questions to one another.
Interesting.
And each candidate will have two minutes to respond to questions, two minutes for rebuttals, and an additional minute for follow-ups or clarifications, and microphones will be muted while the other candidate is speaking.
But that doesn't mean they can't hear them shouting loudly.
Crowder, though, this time he has drinking games.
Oh, nice, nice, nice.
I remember those last time.
They were really lame, but let's see what they are this time.
You started the year with 10-second shit.
I'll talk about that in a minute.
BLM, all that horseshit.
Great.
This is comedy.
A little bit of color.
They're this close.
Or against a guy who represents what the last hundred years has been success.
Or it could be the managerial class versus tech support.
Let's see what they say at CNN.
Yes.
Is this how tonight is going to be?
election their first face-to-face meeting ever.
Speaking of faces, yours is very asymmetrical.
You could cut yourself on those shoulder pads.
Jesus, talking about Trump?
Now up against a new opponent.
The candidates separated by the smallest of margins essentially tied in the polls nationally.
What?
What?
Including right here in Pennsylvania, all still very much in play.
Is this how tonight's gonna be?
No, man.
It's just Nick going, fuck you.
Shut up!
She looks like she's wearing the jacket the guy wore in the Mentos commercial where he rolls on the painted bench.
Old reference.
Yeah, very old reference.
Drink, drink.
Drink, old reference.
Have a racist drink, everybody.
Oh yeah, we're drinking.
Racist drinks.
Oh, you guys got JDs?
Yeah, dude, JD Vans.
You guys got JD News?
Yeah, JD News, baby.
Oh, he's gotta get one.
Here we go.
- Yeah, JDD, baby. - The ABC News presidential debate. - I'll be right back.
- Oh, he's gotta get one.
Here we go. - I gotta get, oh. - All right. - I gotta admit, my stomach hurts.
- Good evening, I'm David Bior.
Thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News presidential debate.
We want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world.
- I'm Adrian Brody, stand in. - Vice President Kamala Harris and President Donald Trump.
- Fine, Adrian Brody, stand in. - What's the difference?
- Yeah, fact check.
- From taking the stage in this unprecedented race And I'm Lindsay Davis.
Tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event of their campaigns with election day now less than two months away.
For Vice President Kamala Harris, this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st.
Withdrew.
No, it's her first debate.
Fact check.
It's her first debate since she failed in the primary and came in dead last.
How's that a fact check?
In 2019.
2019.
I lost a lot of money in that.
Other than the VP debate, yeah.
I think I'm gonna start staring at the camera like Steven does.
By the way, they gave her a smaller podium so the size discrepancy wouldn't be as apparent.
If I were in charge of it, I would give her the smaller podium she asked for, but a huge ass microphone.
That's so funny.
Did they just play a big clip of us just laughing?
I think it was Jared.
Wait, what are you drinking, Jared?
I got a, I got a Summerberry Waterloo.
Nice.
I had too much coffee the other day.
- I'm sure.
- Wait, what are you drinking, Jared? - I got a Summerberry Waterloo.
- Nice. - Vice President Harris selected the podium to the right.
- Had two more staff for the day. - The smaller president.
- All right guys, here we go.
Most important debate probably of our lives, at least up until now.
- Shut the fuck up, Steven, you dork.
Shake hands.
Snip her ass.
Kamala Harris.
What's up?
Good to meet you.
Nice to see you.
Have fun.
Thank you.
Welcome to you both.
I feel like she approached over the line.
That was weird.
That was weird.
That was nice shit.
Shut up.
So let's get started.
I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country.
Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago?
When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?
So I was raised as a middle class kid.
And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America.
I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people.
She's drunk!
I'm telling you she's drunk.
I think she's just from California.
She's drunk.
To build what I call an opportunity economy.
Because here's the thing.
We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing.
And the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people.
Whose fault?
We know that young families need support to raise their children.
And I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time.
Why don't you do it now?
So that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children.
- My passion, one of them is small businesses.
I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, I hope that she answers the question that they ask, though.
second mother she was a small business owner I love our small businesses my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction I hope that you start a question yes knowing they are part of the backbone of America who pays for that my opponent on the other hand he has done before which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations which will result in five trillion dollars to America's
My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month.
Economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle-class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the best of middle-class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
if you're better off now than four years ago.
- The mass of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.
- Word salad, another drink.
- President Trump will do it.
- First of all, I have no sales tax That's an incorrect statement.
She knows that.
We're doing tariffs on other countries.
She doesn't know what tariffs are.
She doesn't know at all.
After 75 years, pay us back for all that we've done for the world.
And the tariff will be substantial in some cases.
I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know, from China.
Are they trying to do like a DH filter on his face?
Because there was so much money they can't.
What if he's got a Star Wars filter?
What if dog ears pop up?
It's a long time.
- I'm talking. - In millions of dollars from China and other places, they've left the tariffs on.
When I had it, I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation.
Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a country buster, it breaks up countries.
We have inflation-- - Is that what it's known as?
- Inflation the country buster, dude.
- I've never seen before.
Probably the worst in our nation's history.
We were at 21%, but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70, 80% higher than they were just a few years ago.
This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class.
On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums, and they're coming in and they're taking Uh oh, black jobs.
Cause he's gonna fuck the unions up.
right now by African Americans and Hispanics.
- Uh oh, black jobs. - And also unions.
Unions are gonna be affected very soon.
And you see what's happening.
You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States.
You look at Springfield, Ohio.
- Here we go.
- Aurora in Colorado.
They are taking over the towns.
They're taking over buildings.
They're going in violently.
These are the people that she and Mike let into our country and they're destroying our country.
They're dangerous.
They're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out.
We have to get them out fast.
I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country.
I'll do it again and even better.
We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate, but I would like to let Vice President Harris respond on the economy here.
She had first answer.
Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.
Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.
Fact check, we'll bring that up, not true.
More deaths under Biden than Donald Trump, and he wasn't in during the peak.
January 6th?
Oh my god.
Not 9-11?
Think about that for a second.
But he's got a collar on.
- We're more under Biden than Donald Trump and he wasn't in during the peak. - The worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
- January 6th?
- Oh my God.
- Not 9/11? - Think about that for a second.
- And what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
But I'm gonna tell you all, in this debate tonight, you're gonna hear from the same old tired playbook. - A bunch of lies, grievances, I think she shook his head a little.
What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025.
Hell yeah.
Drink for the rule.
Not Donald Trump.
This woman is evil.
If he were elected to again.
I believe very strongly.
She's already, she's already tripping up.
Do you notice?
President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
up do you notice?
Mommy!
...common than what separates us.
Daddy!
And I encourage you to be a president for all Americans.
President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
Good.
Byron, if you are there, come up.
She knows better than anyone.
I have nothing to do with Project 2025.
You just know everyone involved.
I haven't read it.
Yeah, that's right.
I don't want to read it purposely.
I'm not going to read it.
This was a group of people that got together.
They came up with some ideas.
I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference.
I have nothing to do.
Everybody knows I'm an open book.
Everybody knows what I'm going to do.
Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
We had the greatest economy.
We got hit with a pandemic.
And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died.
1918.
Fact check.
Has there been anything like it?
We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic.
We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in.
Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
We made ventilators for the entire world.
We got gowns.
We got masks.
We did things that nobody thought possible.
All true.
Honestly, we may not have a ton of fact-checking to do because Donald Trump is doing a really good job thus far.
Please don't fact-check him, though.
He's a cake for him.
She's an idiot.
He's a fucking moron.
- Oh, he's a fucking moron. - He's reading Donald Trump's speech right now.
They try to claim the jobs that they recovered. - So Donald Trump has no plan for you.
Yeah, you already said that.
She's already repeating herself.
- Look at Donald Trump do that little bitchy face.
- Little frog. - I am on what I describe as an opportunity economy, and the best economists in our country, if not the world-- - She's already repeating herself. - She's already repeating herself.
Donald Trump has no plan for you.
You wanna listen to what she says?
She can't.
She can't handle this.
Now do unrealized capital gains.
What'd the economists say?
John Alfred Stephen.
I thought that was her ass.
- What the economy has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit.
16 Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession.
You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues She's pointing out the stuff that might go bad.
He's pointing out stuff that went bad under her.
Great point.
Because he's more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.
It's like when your uncle says something and you're like, okay?
They let her go and they cut him off.
There you go.
Did you see that?
I think my plan is a brilliant plan.
It's a great plan.
It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth, our value as a country.
It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for our country.
She doesn't have a plan.
She can always look at him like, what the fuck is this man saying?
Four sentences.
Like, run, spot, run.
Four sentences that he just...
Just the chat, I can't just lower Crowder because he's on the same track as this.
Yeah.
Your wife.
What?
He looks like it's trusted to just get the foundation on your temple.
He always misses the temple.
And the eyes, of course.
because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax.
Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board.
You recently said that you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to 20% on goods coming into this country.
- Just get the foundation on your temple.
He always misses the temple.
- Tariffs at that level costs are then passed on to the consumer.
Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication, arguing it costs the typical family-- - As opposed to the 32% increase in gas while she was president.
Or homes, 139% for a 30-year mortgage.
Worldwide inflation.
...what's going to happen, who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years.
Charts.
Get those charts up, quick.
You got charts?
And you know, if she doesn't like them, they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs.
But those tariffs are there three and a half years now.
There are tariffs that make sense.
Just not blanket tariffs.
Don't spend too much time on tariffs.
It's a setup.
They want to bog him down.
It's because he doesn't know what tariffs are.
Yeah, it's a great point.
- Yeah, it's a great point.
- People can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else. - All of the things that he's talking about all that bacon.
He said he can't eat bacon anymore.
It's too expensive for Trump.
He's just like us now.
Here's to Trump.
- The polls say 80, 85, and even 90% that the Trump economy was great, that their economy was terrible. - Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response.
And you heard what the president said there because the Biden administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place.
So how do you respond? - Well, let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America.
He invited trade wars.
You want to talk about his deal with China, what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military.
By the way, interesting she says trade deficits because as far as jobs that were created, 6.3 million jobs went to foreign-born workers under Kamala Biden.
American jobs were created by Donald Trump no matter what.
Focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in American-based technology so that we win the race on AI and quantum computing.
Focusing on what we need to do to support America's Yeah, wait, what?
You guys talked over the whole thing, so you can't say what.
on the short end of the stick in terms of workers' rights.
But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID, is he actually thanked President Xi for what he did during COVID.
Look at his tweet.
Thank you, President Xi!
When we know that Xi was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
Oh, wait!
Is it now the Democrat talking point?
Lab leak?
They bought their chips from Taiwan.
We hardly make chips anymore because of her philosophies like they have and policies like they have.
I don't say her because she has no policy.
Everything that she believed three years ago, four years ago, is out the window.
She's going to my philosophy now.
I was going to send her a magnet.
Wow, if she ever got elected, she'd change it.
I kind of like that she's being a little fiery over there, if I'm being honest.
Yeah, it's a good vibe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, grab the chin.
Follow up with specifics as to Marxist policy, otherwise they'll just say it was an empty attack.
Trump doesn't know about Marx's policy.
He has no idea.
Kamala's got to come back and be like, I'm actually capitalist scum.
Just like you, bad boy.
Just so you know.
She's so happy with whatever she's going to say next.
and be like, I'm actually capitalist scum.
Just like you, bad boy. - Many of these people coming in are criminals.
And that's bad for our economy too.
You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later.
- She's so happy with whatever she's gonna say now.
- Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy.
- This could be fun, actually.
- They have, and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane.
Almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country.
Can you take notes?
Really quickly, the Penn Wharton study, she talked about Trump's economic plan activity, 1.7 trillion dollars positive economic plan for activity for Harris, negative billion.
The one she cited?
The one she cited.
Wow!
I don't know what the question is.
Big moment for him.
Of course they were going to do this.
Why not?
In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short.
No, Kamala Harris is going to do this.
Because it's important.
But then the very next day, you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban.
Oh, my God.
It's the one thing they can try and make out to be a flip-flop for Donald Trump.
They will not call her on fracking, capital gains tax, on COVID, on the border.
He started, Steve.
North America.
It's Virginia though.
- The plan is, as you know the vote is, they have abortion in the ninth month.
They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor, is doing an excellent job.
- It's Virginia though.
- No, Virginia, not West Virginia.
- Yeah, Stevens worried.
- It's Virginia, not Virginia.
- Uh-oh, uh-oh. - And we will decide what to do with the baby.
In other words, we'll execute the baby.
And that's why I did that, because that predominates.
Because they're radical.
The Democrats are radical in that.
- Oh, they're so radical.
- Good answer.
- What's the kick about, brother?
- Put it back on her, right, Perry?
Boom, nine months. - I think that her staring at him is like an intimidation tactic.
I don't think he wants to look at her. - I don't think he can handle it.
I don't know if he says it.
Not here, brother!
He also says execution after birth.
It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born, is okay.
And that's not okay with me, hence the vote.
But what I did is something for 52 years trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states.
And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices, we were able to do that.
Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother.
I believe strongly in it.
Ronald Reagan did also.
85% of Republicans do.
Exceptions.
Very important.
But we were able to get it, and now states are voting on it.
And for the first time, you're going to see.
Look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years.
Every legal scholar, every democrat, every republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.
And that's what happened.
Now, Ohio, the vote was somewhat liberal.
Kansas, the vote was somewhat liberal.
Much more liberal than people would have thought.
But each individual state is voting.
It's the vote of the people now.
It's not tied up in the federal government.
Look at her, she looks like she's sniffing farts.
The Supreme Court had great courage in doing it, and I give tremendous credit to those six justices.
There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.
Shut up!
Bullshit!
What, she's fact-checking?
It happened in Virginia?
No, it didn't.
Someone said that they would make them comfortable in relation to a very, very rare situation.
The bigger point is her fact-checking him.
Donald Trump has elected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade.
And they did exactly as he intended.
And now in over 20 states there are Trump abortion bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care.
In one state it provides prison for life.
Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand what that means.
This is dishonest but smart on her part to say Trump abortion bans even though it has nothing to do with them.
Hey, if they are Trump abortion bans, then they should be Trump abortion extensions!
If it's Trump abortion bans, it can also be, wait, it can't be Trump appointed judges, right?
Agree.
The government, and Donald Trump certainly, should not be telling a woman what to do with her body.
I'm going to mute this.
Just a sec.
- You wanna talk about this is what people wanted?
- States are.
- Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are afraid they might go to jail.
- I'm gonna mute this, just a sec.
This is actually wonderful to watch Stephen and Nick have nothing to say because-- - They're just mad because the fact checker was clear about-- And she's doing a good job.
And they're like, fuck, we can't say anything.
Rape or health of the mother?
Fact check.
Dumb bra.
Dumb bra.
This is her wheelhouse if she has one.
It's going to be this all night, Nick.
Buckle in.
So she knows something here, I guess.
She doesn't know anything, but she knows this.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm still in shock about the moderator checking him.
You're right.
You're right.
When you're right, you're right, Nick.
She snapped at him.
- He's gonna come back and say, "I won't send a national abortion." She is a liar. - I'm still in shock about the moderator checking him.
- You're right.
You're right.
When you're right, you're right. - She snapped at him.
- To make decisions about ones on body should not be made by the government.
- Thank you, Vice President Harris.
- Unless it's literally every other thing.
- It's a lie.
I'm not signing a ban, and there's no reason to sign a ban, because we've gotten what everybody wanted.
- What's the result, though?
- Democrats, Republicans, and everybody else.
- Some states can kill.
Some states can't kill.
Great.
70% of Americans want abortion legally and now voting.
Fact check.
and the states are voting.
And it may take a little time, but for 52 years, this issue has torn our country apart.
And they wanted it back in the states.
And I did something that nobody thought was possible.
The states are now voting.
Fact check.
What she says is an absolute lie.
And as far as the abortion ban, no, I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter.
Because this issue has now been taken over by the states.
Would you veto a national abortion ban if it won't be passed?
Well, I won't have to because, again, it's two things.
Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.
She'll never get the vote.
It's impossible for her to get the vote.
especially now with the 50-50, essentially 50-50. - Does he know that it's not just the presidential election coming up? - She's not gonna get the vote.
- Yeah, this is interesting.
- She can't get the vote.
She won't even come close to it.
So it's just talk.
You know what it reminds me of?
When they said they're gonna get student loans terminated, and it ended up being a total catastrophe.
The student loans, and then her, I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss, he spends all his time on the beach.
But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do it again.
I would wish he called her out on it, just politely.
again by the Supreme Court.
So we'll make sure he should laser in and let them with the bias.
Like you said, you saw the moderator step in.
Let them show their hand stepping into safer.
If he keeps talking, they won't show their hand.
I would wish he called her out on it just politely and said, oh, excuse me, you checked my work?
It's the same way that they talked about that, that they talk about abortion.
But if I could just get a yes or no, because you're running me.
He already said he wouldn't sign an abortion ban.
Shut up!
Well, I didn't discuss it with JD in all fairness.
JD, I don't mind if he has a certain view, but I think you're speaking for me, but I really did.
Look, we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it.
Just like she couldn't get student loans, they couldn't get student loans.
They didn't even come close to getting student loans.
They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans.
Don't get bogged down.
He started off really strong.
She was getting scared, dry mouth.
Like I said, boom.
Quick parry.
Get it out of here.
Get it out of here.
I'm sorry, buddy.
He could just say no or yes.
He's in his ear.
No, he's in his ear.
Dude, he's in his ear.
- He's not the guy you think he'd respond, but I do wanna ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion? - I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade, and as you-- - You didn't answer the question.
She's got time.
I want to hear what she has to say.
her could you please answer the question because you asked Donald Trump would he instate a national abortion ban?
He said no.
Then you followed up asking if he would veto one and followed up a third time.
She did not answer that question.
I want to hear what she said.
To the women of America and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans.
Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments.
That's sad.
They can adopt some of your illegal immigrants.
They just figured it out.
Crowder hated that.
He really did.
- I just figured it out.
- Who can barely afford childcare as it is. - I just figured it out.
- Have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers.
- He's using anecdotes to carry a point.
- To go and get the healthcare she needs.
Yeah.
I love that he won't look at her.
He's so afraid of looking at her.
Fake tears.
Look at him look in the other direction.
This is what CNN wants.
They want to sit and focus on the abortion issue.
This is what America wants.
Every little time of the economy, which is the most important issue to Americans, they'll probably glaze over immigration.
- I should do Americans as an immigration. - But let's talk about snatches.
- Wow, who was?
- Oh my God, what a fucking idiot. - I have been a leader on IVF. - Dumbass, Steven.
The IVF, I have been a leader, in fact, and they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.
I've been a leader on it.
They know that, and everybody else knows it.
I have been a leader on fertilization IVF.
And the other thing, they...
You should ask.
That was sick.
Will she allow abortion in the 8th month, 9th month, 7th month?
Come on.
Okay, would you do that?
Answer it!
Answer it!
Come on!
Why don't you ask her?
That was the question!
That's the problem.
They said they were going to unmute.
He already answered.
He would not sign up.
Wait, they said they were going to?
Do you have any limitations?
Yeah, in cases of crosstalk.
Okay, good.
You gotta write that down.
This was six years ago.
Please.
Shut the fuck up, Steve.
He never said absolutely not.
He didn't.
Six years ago. - Put the baby aside, and then we determine what we want to do with the baby. - Ask her the question. - Listen.
- We're gonna turn now to immigration.
- Ah! - So look at that.
Fact check, they followed up three times.
They asked Donald Trump, "Did you see that?
Would you send a national abortion ban?
Absolutely not.
Would you veto one if one's proposed?" - He never said absolutely not. - He didn't. - Then they say, "We need to answer that again." With her?
Any limitations?
She doesn't answer, and they fact-check Trump.
This is unbelievable.
By the way, this is ABC simulcast on CNN.
ABC's in charge.
You said CNN.
Sorry.
I said CNN.
ABC.
But my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act, and would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this?
So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings.
Donald talks about business?
Conservative members of the United States Senate came up with a border security bill which I supported.
And that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now over time-- - This is the bill of 20 billion to the border, none of which would be for prevention or fixing or creating a wall, but I believe it was 70 billion to Ukraine, that bill. - I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country.
That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
But you know what happened to that bill?
Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress, and said, kill the bill.
And you know why?
Because he'd prefer to run on the front lines instead of fixate.
Because it was $70 billion for Ukraine and $20 billion for border, none of which for the wall.
And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.
But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
And I'll tell you something, he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised.
And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter, he will talk about when mills cause cancer, and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
Don't take the bait.
Don't take the bait.
This is good.
He should say, and at her rally you'll see him twerking!
How about his supporters didn't leave when there were bullets flying?
There's that answer.
I should have coaxed him.
You gotta see this at Shrug.club.
That was great.
Really cool handshake.
Bros.
Kill Bill.
- I would like to respond, let me just ask though, why did you try to kill that bill?
- Really cool handshake.
- Bros. - That would've put thousands of additional agents and officers.
- Kill bill.
- First time we responded is to the rallies.
She said people start leaving.
Don't take the bait.
This is the most important thing.
And the people that do go, she's bussing them in and paying them to be there.
And then showing them in a different light.
So she can't talk about that.
People don't leave my rallies.
We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics.
That's a happy rally.
He's always had the biggest rallies.
What is he talking about?
- Fairly nature.
- Fire in the view there come up.
- Three and a half years ago, and what's going on here, you're gonna end up in World War III, just to go into another subject.
What they have done to our country-- - What is he talking about?
- By allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country-- - They asked him why he killed the bill, just so you know.
- Yeah.
- All over the United States.
And a lot of towns don't want to talk.
It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
They're eating the cats.
They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
No, don't go back to that.
verified.
It's true.
People in that the police chief came out, mayor came out.
No examples, no evidence.
As far as rallies are concerned, as far as they go, is they like what I say.
They want to bring our country.
Just compare the numbers.
That's all you had to say.
- Make America great again.
- Very simple phrase, make America great again.
- You don't wanna do that.
- No, you don't want to. - And if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.
- He should have answered that was a bill with 20 billion to the border and 70 billion to Ukraine.
And by the way, I wasn't in office.
Of course he said that!
That's why he shouldn't take the bait.
Ohio and ABC News to the city manager there.
He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.
Let me just say here, the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food.
So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
I'm not taking this from television.
But the people on television say their dog was eaten by the people that went there.
Oh my God.
This is so good.
I love this.
What did Gerald just say?
You're talking about extreme.
You know, this is why in this election, I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Trump, Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney.
And Dick Cheney?
The last Vice President?
Dick Cheney?
Hey, can we fact check?
Bring up Kamala Harris' comments on Dick Cheney.
That doesn't matter.
And Biden's comments on Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney changed.
It changed his heart five, six times.
Great point.
He's a ghoul.
Let's not give him too much credit.
Yeah, he sucks.
As he nods, yes.
Yes, I do.
I don't know what contempt means.
He's like, I've heard that before.
She is trying to rattle his cage, get under his skin.
I hope he stays disciplined and gets back to the numbers and the issues.
No, he's falling apart.
By the way, the media won't talk about how she's making personal attacks.
No, she should make personal attacks.
I think the choice is clear in this election.
President Trump, I'll give you a quick minute to respond.
Yeah.
Thank you, because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person.
I fired most of those people.
Tell us.
Not so graciously.
They did bad things or a bad job.
I fired them.
They never fired one person.
They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people We're getting there.
Good answer.
Should have fired all the top people.
Good answer.
And I got to know the parents and the family.
They didn't fire-- they should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one of the most incompetent-- Should have fired all the top people.
--situations anybody has ever seen. So when somebody does a bad job, I fire them.
Clever pivot.
And you take a guy like Esper.
He was no good.
I fired him.
So he writes a book.
Another one writes a book.
Because with me they can write books.
With nobody else can they.
Another one writes a book.
They have done such a poor job.
And they never fire anybody.
Look at the economy.
Look at the inflation.
They didn't fire any of their economists.
They have the same people.
That's a good way not to have books written about you.
But, just to finish, I got more votes than any Republican in history by far.
A lot of votes got written about him.
I got more votes than any president, sitting president, in history by far.
Hmm.
Oh, don't let me continue.
Election day.
I was looking at that candidate earlier, so let's get back.
He didn't say he lost the proposal.
He's simultaneously won it.
He's debating three people.
President Trump, yeah.
Come on, man.
I just told you.
Round them up.
You say you would use the National Guard.
You say if things get out of control, you'd have no problem using the U.S. military.
Give them a f-ball.
You also said you would use local police.
How would you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants?
I know you believe that number is much higher.
Round them up.
Take us through this.
What does this look like?
Will authorities be going door-to-door?
Give them context.
Only 3 million under his election.
Seat tails.
Yeah, because of the police.
Not on her.
- That big police car honked the horn. - Many, many, millions of criminals.
They allowed terrorists, they allowed common street criminals.
- 380 terrorists crossed the border and counting under Kamala Harris and Biden.
Only 11 under Donald Trump.
380 versus 11.
their countries like venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you do you know the crime in venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down you know why because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country there you go and this will be
This will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow, and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes, but it's not worth it because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done.
That's a great fact.
There's never been anything done like this at all.
They've destroyed the fabric of our country.
After Trump released 5,000 Taliban fighters, including their current leader from president.
Great fact check on the chat.
She's going to try and use Pete Buttigieg's statistics that don't include the reporting.
Homophobia drink.
Isn't he going to be good?
statistics that don't include the reporting.
Crime in this country is through the roof.
And we have a new form of crime.
It's called migrant crime.
And it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.
President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country.
Bring it up because people want...
They were defrauding statements.
They didn't include the worst cities.
They didn't include the cities with the worst crime.
It was a fraud.
Just like their number of 18,000 jobs that they said they created.
It turned out to be a fraud. - President Trump, thank you.
I'll let you respond, Vice President Harris.
- Well, I think this is so rich.
I think you meant to say liable.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- There it is.
- Here we go.
- There it is.
- Economic crimes, election interference, has been found liable for sexual assault.
- Assault, thank you. - I think you meant to say liable.
- Court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.
And let's be clear, where each person I don't know.
I think it's liable.
I don't know.
He might be right.
Look at that frog.
He's turning more yellow.
We'll pull that clip afterwards.
The rioters should not stop, nor will they stop.
And he gets flushed.
He gets that nacho cheese Dorito makeup.
He's making her hungry.
By the way, this is why you mugged them undercover.
We knew this would be the dynamic.
It's gone now.
It's a weaponization of the DOJ.
Get fucked, Steven.
Your vice president now.
Do it now.
Last three years.
I'm still mad about the moderator.
I'm so insulted that this is even a debate.
It's insulting to this country.
- No, last three years.
- Address what we must do to support our small business. - I'm still mad about the moderator.
- I'm so insulted that this is even a debate.
It's insulting to this country.
- But frankly, the American people are exhausted with this same old tired playbook.
- Vice President Harris.
- Your Vice President! - Excuse me.
- Yeah, Vice President.
- Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent, And I'm winning most of them, and I will win the rest of the appeal.
And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court.
I'm winning most of them.
But those are cases, it's called weaponization.
Never happened in this country.
They weaponized the Justice Department.
Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ, from Atlanta and Fawny Willis to the Uh-oh, here we go.
Attorney General of New York and the DA in New York, every one of those cases.
And then they say, oh, he was he's a criminal.
They're the ones that made them go after me.
By the way, Joe Biden was found that made me a criminal.
Documents case.
And what happened in my documents case?
They said, oh, that's the toughest of them all.
Continue to a complete and total victory.
Two months ago, it was thrown out.
It's weaponization, and they used it, and it's never happened in this country.
They used it to try and win an election.
They're fake cases.
President Trump, thank you.
A really quick response from Vice President Harris on this notion of weaponization in the Justice Department.
I want to talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2020 is taking place.
The United States Supreme Court His eyes are all teary.
Immune or immune?
No, they recognize President Trump.
The Constitution.
Right.
What?
They're surprised by that?
Never said it.
Never said it.
That's another line.
It's not.
- He was so mean to me.
- Understand, this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate the Constitution of the United States.
- Right.
- That he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political...
- Never said it.
- He did in a truth.
- Someone who has overly expressed disdain - This isn't something to America.
Suckers and losers lie.
understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.
Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.
We know J.D. Vance is not going to stop him.
It's up to the American people to stop him.
Vice President Harris, in your last run for president... - A couple of nice, please.
This is the one that weaponized, not me.
She weaponized.
I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me.
They talk about democracy.
I'm a threat to democracy.
They're the threat to democracy.
We have a lot to get to, Lindsey.
Here we go.
This is good.
Hey look, Steven.
Remember how you said they weren't going to talk about it?
Here comes word salad!
No, have your refill ready.
She'll give a clearer.
Looking at the playbook.
What's it going to be?
Answer the way we told you to.
Look at three pages so far.
Just do it.
Don't say you're going to do it.
- I know you're taking a harder line.
I know you say that your values have not changed.
So then why have so many of your policy positions changed?
- Answer the way we told you to.
- My values have not changed.
- We've got three pages so far.
- I'm gonna discuss at least every point that you've made.
But in particular, let's talk about fracking.
- Just do it, don't say you're gonna do it, just do it. - I made that very clear in 2020. - I don't think we're gonna talk about fracking.
No, you didn't.
What did I tell you?
She's going to say, as I've answered before, you didn't make it clear.
Listen.
Actually, she said it.
tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new pieces. - Which gave the IRS more authority for taxes on tips.
You work, you work! - My position is that we have got to invest in Those are the leases that Donald Trump signed.
energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil.
We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil.
Absolutely not true.
Those are the leases that Donald Trump signed.
Eighty-something policy positions were reversed on domestic energy immediately when Biden became president.
and was able to buy our first home six pages to come to find that the values i bring how many importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed 400 million dollars on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a value that i bring to my work don't take the bait we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase three million homes increased by three million homes - Look at that smirk on this face.
He's ready for it. - He's rolled over the back of his head like a damn other taker.
- Who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather.
- Rest in peace. - And my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.
My work-- - Tranny's in prison.
She'll get credit for this, because she's not word salad.
She did pretty good.
Yeah, she did do pretty good.
Yeah, good point out.
Next credibility for Kamala at the end of the list.
Oh, this is amazing.
She answered about guns?
Okay, Josh Groban.
- That's about, this is something you say.
- Oh, this is something you say. - Chance about guns?
- Okay, Josh Groban.
- Remember how fucking dumb this girl is?
- Wait a second.
What did you say about Josh Groban?
The strength is not in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.
I intend to be that president.
President Trump, your response?
Laser focused.
I hate to do that.
I wish I was.
My father was a Brooklyn builder, Brooklyn, Queens, and a great father, and I learned a lot from him.
But I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and I built it into many, many billions of dollars.
A tiny fraction of them.
Millions of dollars.
He said fracking a fraction of money.
even some millions of dollars.
We don't have to talk about that.
Fracking, she's been against it for 12 years.
He said fracking a fraction of money.
She's been against that forever.
She gave all that stuff up very wrongly, very wrongly.
What?
What is she saying?
She's laughing at him.
Yeah, that's kind of amazing.
He did that big breath in his, like, bottom teeth.
- 15 different policies.
- Yeah, that's kind of amazing. - She was big on defund the police.
In Minnesota, she went out-- - He did that big breath in his bottom seat.
Oh, he's frustrated.
Is this funny being?
Wait, what did she say?
Hold tight.
She went out in Minnesota... I gotta rewind that.
In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking wrongly.
She's shaking her head.
I'm talking.
And everybody's laughing at it, okay?
They're all laughing at it.
She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies.
Like, she was big on defund the police.
In Minnesota, she went out... Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
That's not true.
They'll say she didn't donate personally, she raised money for it.
Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
She wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
Just to finish one thing, so important in my opinion.
I had no idea she was doing transgender stories on illegal aliens in prison.
Whoa!
Up the roof or through the roof?
- In prison.
- They got rid of it.
- Whoa. - '89. - And the prices were going up the roof.
They immediately let these guys go-- - Up the roof or through the roof?
- I don't know.
- I would have been five times, four times, five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago.
They got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were quadrupling and doubling.
You saw what happened to gasoline.
Quadrupling and doubled?
He hates windmills.
Too many dead birds, dude.
Good lord.
He hates windmills.
Too many dead birds, dude.
Are you okay?
Who's he talking to?
We have a lot of issues that we have to get to.
We're out of time.
Thank you.
We have an election in just 56 days.
And I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know is a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis.
Mr. President, on January 6th, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.
You said you would be right there with them.
The country and the world saw what played out.
Make your voices heard.
Peacefully and patriotically.
Heads in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office.
It did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message.
Peacefully and patriotically, make your voices heard.
If he doesn't clarify that, the media is the... This is Pravda.
This is Pravda.
It is Pravda.
That doesn't cover everything.
That doesn't cover everything.
He's getting so angry right now.
Look at him.
True.
True.
He's sharp.
Except if someone did that to his house, he would have them shot.
- He's getting so angry right now.
Look at him.
- Out of control police officer that should have never ever shot her.
- True.
- He's sharp.
- Except if someone did that to his house, he would have them shot.
- This group of people that have been treated so badly.
I ask, what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people?
- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
She was the Bordezar, remember that.
She was the Bordezar.
She doesn't want to be called the Bordezar because she's embarrassed by the Bordezar.
Right now she looks like Prince.
Well, I'm surprised you're not talking about the Bordezar yet.
She's wearing an ascot and a white face.
Oh, because she has a scarf on?
He just doesn't want to hear what's happening.
This is silly.
Crime rates are down because, thank you, the same reason that crime is down all over the world.
Not just South America.
They're coming in from all over the world, David, all over the world.
And crime rates are down all over the world because of it.
This is silly.
But let me say, David, when are those people going to be prosecuted?
When are the people that burned down Minneapolis going to be prosecuted?
Or in Seattle.
They went into Seattle.
They took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle.
When are those people going to be prosecuted?
But let me just ask you.
You might ask her that question.
You were the president.
You were watching it unfold on television.
That's so fair.
It's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election.
Thank you, David.
Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
You lied, David.
Yes, sir.
I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech.
I showed up for a speech.
I said, I think it's gonna be big.
I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C.
She admitted.
Pelosi admitted, right?
And the mayor put it back in writing, as you know.
I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you want to call it.
And again, it wasn't done by me.
It was done by others.
I said, I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers.
They rejected me.
Nancy Pelosi rejected me.
We have that video of Nancy Pelosi admitting it was her fault.
We'll bring it up afterward.
We have a full recap at the end of this.
He's saying it.
It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs.
I wasn't responsible for security.
Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
She didn't do her job.
The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President- Fuck you!
You fuck.
I was at the Capitol on January 6th.
I was the vice president-elect.
I was also an acting senator.
I was there.
And on that day, the President of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol.
Guys, if she wins, there's no saving this country.
Do you understand that?
This is the communist playbook, Saul Alinsky 101.
Can I add to that?
The fact that this is even a debate, that she's gone this far, I honestly hate it.
No, no, this is honest.
We're already robbed it.
We've already lost it.
- You incited a riot?
- We have to get it back.
- A mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate.
And what did the president at the time say?
There were fine people on each side.
When it came to the Proud Boys, a militia.
I hope he brings up, you know who, Snopes.
Even Snopes said it was bullshit.
So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say, we don't have to go back.
Let's not go back.
We're not going back.
It's time to turn the page.
And if that was a bridge too far for you, well there is a place.
She shouldn't have gone here.
Bailing people out of jail during Minneapolis riots.
Stand for law.
for rule of law and to end the chaos.
- Bailing people out of jail during Minneapolis riots stand for love.
- Attacking the foundations of our democracy 'cause you don't like the outcome.
And be clear on that point.
- Yeah, actually.
- Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath.
- I'm tired for that.
- Did not! - I'm out of Donald Trump.
- Did not.
- You have the drinking game rules?
- Yeah.
- He did not, he was talking about the auto industry in trade. - She's showing her.
I will tell you this, though.
This is the first time that we are seeing someone who's completely unburdened by having to be truthful at all.
Barack Obama had to have a veneer.
It was a different term, and it was a term that related to energy, because they have destroyed our energy business.
That was where bloodbath was.
Also, on Charlottesville, that story has been, as you would say, debunked.
So many times.
Sean Hannity, Jesse, all of these people, they covered it.
If they go an extra sentence, they will see it.
It was debunked in almost every newspaper, but they still bring it up just like they bring 2025 up.
They bring all of this stuff up.
I ask you this, you talk about Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border?
How come she's not doing anything?
And I'll tell you what I would do, and I would be very proud to do it.
I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
I'd like to see her go down to Washington D.C.
during this debate because we're wasting a lot of time.
Go down to Washington D.C.
- 'Cause she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous.
Go down to Washington, D.C. - Washington, D.C. - And let her sign a bill to close up the border. - Right now. - Because they have the right to do it.
- Do it now.
Executive action.
One of the very few areas where you can do it.
Executive action?
Can the Vice President do executive action?
No, that can't do that.
And they're trying to cut him off.
President Kamala Trump.
All he has to do is say it to the Border Patrol, who are phenomenal.
All he has to do is say, close Sesame!
Those people are killing many people, unlike J6.
We talked immigration here tonight.
I do want to focus on We don't want to focus on immigration because it's a very weak point for Kamala Harris.
Fucking ABC is evil.
Three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election repeatedly falsely claiming that you won.
What world does he live in?
Many times saying you won in a landslide.
This is good.
You have said you lost by a whisker, that you quote didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short.
I said that.
Yeah, I said it.
I said it sarcastically.
I didn't say it, but I did say it.
I said that.
We said, oh, we lost by a whisker.
That was said sarcastically.
Oh.
Look, there's so much proof.
Yeah, I said it.
I said it sarcastically.
I didn't say it, but I did say it.
He should do that.
That would be more effective.
That's part of the Perry in the character.
That's why I love Vivek, by the way.
Which was what I got.
It's the first thing.
And when he lies, he continues to lie.
The election, people should never be thinking about it.
An election is fraudulent.
We need two things.
We need walls.
We need borders.
And we have to have good elections.
Our elections are bad.
And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote.
They can't even speak English.
They don't even know what country they're in practically.
And these people are trying to get them to vote.
And that's why I believe there was just a bill yesterday that would include identification to vote that Democrats opposed.
You guys can bring that up for me.
I don't remember the details.
No judge looked at it.
None of them looked at it.
No judge looked at it.
And we should just point out here as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges, many of them Republican.
No judge looked at it.
None of them looked at it.
No judge looked at it.
That's the other thing.
He can't edit.
He doesn't know what having standing means.
technicality.
Yeah.
Can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing, the President of the United States doesn't have standing?
That's how we lost.
He doesn't know what having standing means.
I'd love to have you do a special on it.
I'll show you Georgia and I'll show you Wisconsin and I'll show you Pennsylvania.
You had four years to prove this.
There already was a special on Georgia.
It was called Kill Chain on HBO.
They buried it, where the man hacked the machine.
Why do you keep talking about it?
that we have right now.
That's old news.
And the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in decline and they have put it into decline.
We have a nation that is dying, David.
Mr. President, thank you.
Vice President Harris, I heard the president there tonight.
He said he didn't say that, that he lost by a whisker.
So he still believes... He didn't say he didn't say it!
He said he said it sarcastically, you dumb shit!
You dumb crooked mother shit!
But I do want to ask you about something... Un-fucking-believable.
I like when he gets those chippy eyes.
When he says that, he looks around the room like, you guys see that?
She should correct it.
Imagine how mad they would be.
She just bragged about him being prosecuted!
Actual criminals.
Suppressed.
Oh, tough question David.
- Imagine how mad they would be.
- Which will include long-term prison sentences.
- She just bragged about him being prosecuted.
- Donald Trump intimidate us.
We won't let him suppress the vote.
Is that what you believe he's trying to do here? - Because it's not scheduled.
- Tough question, David.
- Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people.
So let's be clear about that.
She's trying to get under his skin.
Don't let it happen.
Don't take the bait.
When's the commercial break, by the way?
I don't know.
They took him away.
No one gets to piss.
By the way, this is toxic femininity.
That gaslighting.
Difficult time processing.
Gaslighting, Steven.
I have traveled the world as much as the United States.
And world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump.
I have talked with military leaders.
And I say you're a disgrace.
she's retarded find a lump in your tent and when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again i listened to an episode of nick's show last week and he said that he heard she was coming to town and he was looking for us for a slanted roof.
It leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or the ability to not be confused about fact.
That's deeply troubling, and the American people deserve better.
I'll give you one minute to respond, Mr. President.
She's a great actress.
Let me just say about world leaders.
She's a great politician.
Victor Orban, one of the most respected men.
They call him a strong man.
He's a tough person.
They call him that.
Smart.
Prime Minister of Hungary.
They said, why is the whole world blowing up?
I know.
Why is it blowing up?
I heard this.
He said, because you need Trump back as president.
They were afraid of him.
China was afraid of him.
I don't like to use the word afraid, but I'm just quoting him.
China was afraid of him.
North Korea was afraid of him.
Look at what's going on with North Korea, by the way.
He said Russia was afraid of him.
I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and Biden put it back on day one, but he ended the XL pipeline.
He's pissed.
He never opens.
Ended our XL, ended the XL in North America, expanded it in Russia.
- He's built a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany.
The biggest pipeline in the world. - Ended our XL, ended the XL in North America, expanded it in Russia.
Fact check true. - He said the most respected, most feared person is Donald Trump.
We had no problems when Trump was president, but when this weak, pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago, that if he weren't in that debate, he'd be running instead of hers.
She got no votes.
He got 14 million votes.
What you did, you talk about a threat to democracy.
He got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office.
And you know what?
I'll give you a little secret.
He hates her.
He can't stand her.
But he got 14 million votes.
She got zero votes.
And when she ran, she was the first one to leave because she fad.
Right.
Like I'm not crazy.
I don't understand.
He's like so much redder in the face than he was when we started.
She hates Jews.
- He's so much redder in the face than he was when we started. - He's taking a response. - She hates Jews! - Vice President Harris in December, He's gonna say that.
That's why Walls is the vice... He will.
What am I doing?
Are they using Hamas numbers?
Of course.
Are they using the numbers that came from the Palestinian Authority or Hamas?
40,000?
Can we fact check that?
Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians.
You said that nine months ago.
Now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead.
Nearly 100 hostages remain.
Are they using Hamas numbers?
Of course.
Are they using the numbers that came from the Palestinian Authority or Hamas?
40,000?
Can we fact check that?
The Gaza Health Ministry, I believe it is.
Ah.
Well, let's understand how we got here.
On October 7th, Hamas, a terrorist organization.
Good, I like it.
Slaughtered 1,200 Israelis.
Nothing to disagree with.
Many of them young people who were simply attending a concert.
This is bipartisan.
Women were horribly raped.
I think you're going to be disappointed if you think she's going to say something.
Israel has a right to defend itself.
We would.
And how it does so matters because it is also true far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed.
Children, mothers.
What we know is that this war must end.
It must end immediately and the way it will end... Like Russia and Ukraine?
Isn't it funny how they want the war to end in Israel?
Yeah, Dennis, how about this?
Let's just talk over the sub correcting... She's real.
It's Hamas who doesn't want a ceasefire.
We must chart a course for a two-state solution.
And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians.
So who doesn't want a ceasefire?
But the one thing I will assure you always, I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel.
You won't throw $6 billion to Iran.
Donald Trump costs them over a trillion dollars.
That's what the Iranian, I believe, Ayatollah said or the Iranian official administration said.
And that money is strictly regulated and released only upon verification of where it's going.
President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilians in Gaza?
If I were president, it would have never started.
If I were president, Russia would have never, ever, I know Putin very well, he would have never, and there was no threat of it either, by the way, for four years, have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you added up.
Far worse than people understand what's going on over there.
But when she mentions about Israel, all of a sudden, she hates Israel.
She wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech.
She refused to be there because she was at a sorority party of hers.
She wanted to go to the sorority party.
She hates Israel.
If she's president, I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now.
I've been bringing in pictures and I hope I'm wrong about that.
She hates Israel.
At the same time, in her own way, she hates the Arab population.
Because the whole place is going to get blown up.
Arabs, Jewish people, Israel.
Israel will be gone.
It would have never happened.
Iran was broke.
I'd hate to see that.
Now Iran has 300 billion dollars because they took off all the sanctions that I had.
Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different spheres of terror.
And they are spheres of terror.
They had no money.
It was a big story.
That's good.
I like that.
They had no money for terror.
They were broke.
I've never heard him say Tehran before.
What they're doing is they're spreading that money around.
What's your favorite hardcore band?
Tehran.
Tehran.
Look at what's going on in the Middle East.
This matters.
This would have never happened.
Takes money.
I will get that settled and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia.
Is it me or did Donald Trump just take an advantage on foreign policy?
You can comment below.
That was a surprise.
Vice President Harris, he says you hate Israel.
You do!
That's absolutely not true.
I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people.
Wouldn't pick a Jew to be your running mate.
He knows that.
He's trying to, again, divide and distract from the reality.
Yikes.
Why are we looking at the chat?
Which is, it is very well known, just assuming, that Donald Trump is right and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
It is well known that he admires the United States.
I'll be right back.
He wants to be a dictator on day one, according to himself.
Repeating a lie.
I know he does.
It was a satirical comment.
She's tired.
- She's running out, man.
She's getting tired. - Do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine.
It is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant.
It is well known he exchanged Love letters?
He called them fat!
To his face!
He's got a history, a successful track record.
These lies are ranging really all over.
These are all ad hominem.
They don't know what ad hominem means.
Manipulate him so that they don't invade?
So many military leaders who you have worked for and told me you are a disgrace.
That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on national security, including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military.
And she's the one that caused it.
That's weak on national security by allowing every nation last month for the year, 168 different countries sending people into our country.
Their crime rates are way down.
Putin endorsed her last week.
He pivoted back to immigration.
Of course.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible.
It wouldn't have happened with me.
She was actually at a sorority party.
I mean, I think she was, but... Too much, yeah.
But she met with him later on, right?
Yeah.
Just not us.
She met with him privately.
Privately, yeah.
Yeah, we're gonna back you.
Don't even worry.
Nord Stream 2?
I like that this live stream we're watching has five dislikes on it.
That's really interesting.
Commercial?
I can't.
interesting.
By the way, it's paid a lot of money.
Thank you.
We have a lot of issues to get to.
We'll be right back with much more of this history.
All right, let's bring up a brief fact check.
Bring me what it is that we have.
I can't.
So we got to talk.
Holy buckets!
So first of all, I want to say thanks so much to everyone listening.
I think at this point the episode portion is going to end and you can continue listening and watching because I feel like this is something you need to actually watch to really get anything out of it.
So go to shrug.club to watch the full video.
It is at the, what are we, at the hour 20 mark?
So start there and thank you so much for listening to this show because I can't be convinced otherwise right now.
I can't at all.
This is, uh, wow.
Hearing, hearing them just, uh, everything that she says, they act like it's just complete bogus and it's like, well, I think it's because they have never heard these things, right?
Like, no, I mean, they've heard them.
Yeah I think it's just like you just act like incredulous about it like oh yeah here we go again it doesn't matter what they're saying it's just it's just a matter of like you're saying something something is anything you're wrong about everything.
Okay yeah but my in reality do you think that Nick DiPaolo thinks that she's drunk and stupid?
No.
Yes.
I think he thinks she's stupid.
I don't know what she's doing.
But there's no evidence of that.
No, I get it.
His TikTok wife told him that shit.
And that's just that's how he's going into this.
This is like how he interacts with this world.
He thinks that she's just dumb.
But then he sees this and it has to be shocking, right?
To be like, oh, wow, she's actually like full sentences.
She's not just saying coconuts and stuff.
He said that she's doing a good answer here.
And then also when they talked about abortion, This is just her wheelhouse, and it's like, okay, so these two at, you know, admitting that she's doing a good job, she's saying what she needs to say, and there are talking points here that are, and sound valid to these fucking idiots.
Yeah.
These ingrate dumb fucks.
So it's, it's, it's... Jared is so charged up.
Fairly, fairly charged up.
So yeah, thank you so much everyone for listening.
People are tipping us?
No, listening, I said.
Oh.
So if you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
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