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May 3, 2026 - Lionel Nation
01:14:59
Candace Owens is INDESTRUCTIBLE: Enemies Attack … She Fights Back 10X HARDER!

Candace Owens faces baseless conspiracy claims regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination, which the host dismisses as inconsequential lawsuits. He bizarrely analyzes Erica Kirk's grief through a lens of MKUltra mind control, citing declassified CIA documents on LSD and hypnosis to explain her demeanor. The discussion devolves into disdain for airline passengers as "subhuman hominids," warnings against revealing faith in a "sick world," and mockery of public figures like Jordan Peterson and Bobby Kennedy. Ultimately, the episode promotes isolationist conspiracy theories while mocking societal decline and urging followers to avoid debate entirely. [Automatically generated summary]

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Goofy Lawsuits and Hard Times 00:14:42
Good evening, my friend.
Welcome.
And I want to get down to a couple of stories right now just so we don't waste any time.
First of all, I'm so glad you're here sharing this Saturday night with us here in New York City.
It's a beautiful, cool 56 degrees.
Today was gorgeous, absolutely wonderful.
Tonight at 2 from 2 to 5 p.m., I do my Saturday night, well, Sunday morning show on WABC.
And I've got to tell you something.
They are far more, far more possessed of the facts than I think most people of that particular genre.
But there are so many people who do not understand, which is why we're talking about this thing today.
First rule.
And again, thank you.
Do you remember when you were a kid?
There was a device, it was like a bamboo.
It was like Chinese.
You put your thumb or your fingers, and when you pulled apart, it became tighter.
Remember that one?
It's kind of a fun, cute kind of a game as you pull it, and okay.
The same is seen in the case of the morass, which is the um, well, what that is in essence, quicksand.
You get in this miasma, you get in, and the more you pull.
The more you kind of get stuck, by the way, you don't sink, you just get stuck.
All right, that's what happens with Candace Owens, and nobody seems to be understanding that.
I was watching a show today, Trigger Nometry, and there's two guys one dark haired fellow who I think he considers himself the brains of the operation, and the moiety of their half is a kind of a sort of a bit of a goofy guy, seems like a nice enough bloke, as it were, but kind of goofy.
A little goofy, and uh, they had this fellow, and you've seen him before, I forget his name, it doesn't really matter.
And at one point, the dark haired fellow again, I don't want you to know the names, but if you've seen it, they both have they're of British, I think he might be, I don't know.
He said, Well, you know, in the case of Candace Owens, who is accusing people or accusing Erica Kirk of some either being involved in her husband's death or accusing other people.
Of being conspiring or being in a conspiracy to murder or to assassinate Charlie Kirk, and it's never happened, it never happened, it never happened, never happened once, never.
And despite the fact that Candace has said this never happened, there were some, and I gotta be honest with you, and I'm gonna just be I couldn't care less about Warpole, Harpole, um, Mickey, uh, Colvett, these people are to me.
So inconsequential, they're done.
They're done.
They're not involved.
Certainly, they're not involved in any kind of conspiracy to hurt, harm, or to, in any way, what am I trying to say, hurt Mr. to hurt anybody?
I don't think they were involved in the murder of Charlie.
None.
None.
I don't think anybody even said that.
I know Candace hasn't said that.
She's interested to find out what's going on.
I think sometimes people act a lot.
They can act inadvertently obstructionist, but I don't think there's anybody here right now listening right now who honestly thinks that.
To be involved in it, there's no proof.
I mean, you might think maybe there's something doing, but there's just nothing there.
And I got to be honest with you, I have a hard time, and I'm going to explain to you my limitations.
I really don't care.
They're so, they bring a lawsuit, they don't bring a lawsuit.
What are you suing for?
You were damaged?
How were you damaged?
You're just trying to get your name out there.
You weren't damaged.
Nobody knows who the hell you were.
It doesn't matter.
And these lawsuits, there's going to be more of them.
And I find it just so unimportant because they're unimportant.
They don't matter.
You can sue all you want, you're not going to be successful.
And Candace just swats it off.
But the thing which is the most important thing, which is so critical to understand here, is that Candace never said, I never accused anybody.
So I'm watching this trigonometry, and this fellow says he admits that Candace is somehow responsible where she has claimed.
And she hasn't.
And I'm thinking, this is a show where the topic is critical thinking and how people in academia aren't able to be teachers because of the fact that people don't understand what's going on.
And they don't understand because they don't ask the right questions.
And he's not asking the right questions because she's claiming Candace said something which she never did.
How do you get around that?
How do you get around that one?
Think about that.
How do you get around this incredibly important fact?
She never said that.
She never said that.
Next, because you are looking at the list of suspects in any particular case, and you say, I think this person might be involved.
I think we should look here.
What does this mean?
Let me explain to you.
In the Nancy Guthrie case, Ashley Banfield said repeatedly, based upon this really goofy sheriff, that they believed.
That they believed, and that sources say, and the law enforcement say, that the number one suspect, well, I think his name is Tommaso, the number one suspect is the brother in law of Savannah Guthrie.
Now, she said this.
And I thought, boy, I hope they, I hope they, I hope they're right about this.
Because if I'm Tommaso and I'm the brother in law, and they're basically telling me that I have something to do with killing my mother in law, is that it?
I thought I hoped they.
Nobody said anything about that.
Nobody went on TV and sued Ashley Banfield or anybody from the Pima County Sheriff.
Nothing.
We do this all the time.
People opine.
What do you think Nancy Grace is or other true crime stuff?
What is the deal?
We're opining.
So, Candace Owens did not blaspheme, defame, libel, or slander anyone.
She has accused no one of this.
If she investigates planes in Fort Huachuca or Mitch Snow, so what?
So what?
During the OJ Simpson case, they were saying Al Cowlings did it, OJ's son did it, OJ's daughter did it, Denise Brown, Nicole's sister, They were naming everybody you could imagine.
That's what happens.
This is the most stupid thing.
So let me say this carefully.
I don't care who these people are.
Sue, don't sue.
Who are you?
You're not involved.
You should be worried about what's happening to TPUSA because that thing is a joke.
I don't think anybody, I don't hear anybody even talking about that.
I wouldn't be worrying about that.
I'd also be worrying about perhaps some derivative action suits or something which is akin to that on the purpose of the viewpoint of donors because if I were giving a lot of money, I'd be saying, what the hell are you doing with my, what are you doing with this?
What are you doing with this?
So, you see what I'm saying?
This is the most stupid, these lawsuit issues.
It's boring.
And let me also tell you something.
There was another show.
I don't listen to all of them.
One guy said, You people are so stupid.
This is what the show said.
You people are so stupid.
You think that the discovery law rules, the federal rules of civil procedure, give you the right to ask anything you want.
No, they only are germane and they only deal with the issues of the defamation.
Wrong.
If you're suing me, I have the opportunity.
If I say, you know what, I'm going to be developing a defense.
And my defense is such and such.
And I think you might be able to help my defense.
So I need records regarding things, which may not necessarily have anything to do specifically with the defamation.
But I think, for example, I may think, That you, Colvet, or whoever the hell it is, let's assume, just for the sake of argument, if I were to say that I believe that you might be bringing these actions against Candace because you're stealing millions of dollars.
Again, I'm not saying it, but let's assume that were my theory.
Where do you think I'm going to get any facts or any records regarding that particular theory from him?
So I'm going to ask questions as to, I'm going to ask questions out the ass.
Driver's license records, you name it.
So, this is these people.
Why is everybody an expert on discovery?
Why?
I don't even understand.
Everybody's an expert on this on diet, on history, on law, on civil procedure.
You know, you can get into some really good stuff.
You can have, you know, I sue you, I can have a counterclaim, I sue you right back.
You know what, while we're here, I've got a permissive, I've got a mandatory counterclaim.
There might be cross claims, interpleaders, all this stuff that goes.
This is where third party action.
Well, I'm going to sue somebody else because if I'm liable, then you're liable.
You know how this is the most complicated stuff.
It gets really wild.
Criminal law is pretty simple in terms of suing state, federal government versus maybe an individual, maybe a corporation.
That's it.
This is different.
You've got suing individually, suing the corporation, suing separately, joint and several liability.
There's, there's, You know, Baron and I, we had to go through a lot of training just to even broach ours, just to be able to understand the concepts of what we're doing.
And now everybody's an expert on discovery.
I hope, I hope somehow that Candace, you know, counterclaims everyone and has her own.
Anyway, so that's later on.
I don't know what's happening because I'm not a part of it.
All right.
So that's my own particular thing.
I'm fascinated in the case involving Charlie, who's responsible and who's not.
I don't think anybody has been saying it.
Candace is smart enough not to say that she says so and so was involved.
Now, if you think that Mossad, CIA, MI6, were responsible for killing Charlie, if that's what you believe and you say it, join the club.
Because regarding JFK, everybody from FBI, CIA, the mafia, Carlos Marcello, Santo Traficante, the CIA, Alan Dulles, The theories are back and forth.
Where have these babies been?
And the arguments back and forth.
By the way, there were some people before the show even started.
Some of these people are like assholes, one in particular.
Why are people doing that?
We haven't even started.
Be nice to people.
Let me give you another one.
I did a video discussing something which is a very interesting thing.
I had always looked at MKUltra.
As I give you a drug, I change your ability to conform, you know, because I gave you a drug.
And this drug made you act in a particular way or whatever it was, okay?
That's kind of what I thought.
That's what, you know.
Okay.
But that's not what MKUltra is.
And I went through a very thorough.
It's very interesting.
A lot of names, a lot of project glitching, where sometimes she'll freeze when the narrative glitches, when she doesn't remember it.
How sometimes you can make the actual, this is interesting, you can make the actual device itself, the grief, be the trigger.
It's fascinating.
So as I'm going through this and I'm explaining this, These people, one in particular, this one woman, and you can go back and read the comments, she basically gives me a hard time.
I mean, she really lets me have it.
She says, Don't you understand?
These are demons.
Don't bring this up.
And I'm reading this because she's got capital letters as she's writing demons, demons, demons.
She's upset over the fact that I did not either accept or go along with her idea of.
Demons, and she's angry.
Angry.
And I said, Did you watch what's going on?
No, stop this MKL.
I think my theory is far more interesting.
Then another one, another guy writes, he says, You don't understand.
Demons, Psych Meds, and Anger 00:08:38
Don't you know anything about antidepressants?
That's what this is.
Don't you know about antidepressants?
Never seen somebody with antidepressants?
What are you talking about?
Where is this anger from?
And first, let me stop this bullshit.
This thing that we say members of the conspiracy, conspiratorium, excuse me.
Number one, antidepressants, SSRIs, make you crazy.
It makes you homicidal and it makes you suicidal.
Not true.
It has been linked, there have been suspicions, but it doesn't make you do anything.
It doesn't make you do anything.
And one of the biggest problems, I know this bothers people because people say you become so, so married to a particular idea.
That you don't want to listen.
I don't want to ask anybody to give up your privacy.
Please, I would say keep your privacy.
But if I ask people, how many here on antidepressants and how has antidepressants helped you dramatically, giving you your life back?
There have been people so waylaid, so leveled, so just lambasted by heavy duty depression that they couldn't move.
It was called inertia, anhedonia.
You don't have any likes or appreciation, nothing.
And there were some people whose lives were given back to them.
They weren't suicidal.
They weren't homicidal.
They weren't anything.
They were free from this.
Not for everybody, but a lot of people that did because it's a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
Their neural pathways took up basically and reabsorbed serotonin too quickly.
Now, the other part of it is that when you're dealing with people who are already.
In need of a psychiatric medication, psych meds, and the like, if they do have the tendency to become depressed, well, they are depressed, let's say homicidal or suicidal, this cannot be linked to it because you're talking to somebody who already is showing evidence of it in the first place.
You're talking about something.
So you're going to, this is a cofactor.
This is like enzymatic in essence.
You're talking about a cofactor.
So if you have two countervailing.
Problems, underlying pathology of depression or what have you, and a medication which deals with serotonin uptake, for you to suggest that it was the SSRI or the stopping of such, this is the point exactly.
It's a very serious thing.
Donovan says, What happens if we find out it's a group?
It's a group of 20s.
Oh, 20 plus?
Well, we'll see.
But thank you for that.
Let me keep going with this one.
Very, very critical.
So, my point is two people, because I dared to say something that they did not like.
One is a demon.
Do me a favor.
I'm in the corporeal, I dig and deal with.
Things of this world now.
MKUltra, Manchurian candidate stuff, menticide, mind control, all of that is here.
We've been studying this since China, since North Korea.
I can't deal with demons.
I don't know what to do with demons.
I'm not ruling them out, but I can't go and say, I think.
I think that she's possessed with demons.
First of all, people are going to laugh at you.
I'm not saying they should laugh, but you do realize nobody in their right mind should sit there and say, I think I know what this is.
It's demons, it's Luciferian, satanic, reptilian, evil forces embodied.
Don't do that.
Tell us this, but you got to understand something.
Sometimes you may believe something, but when you go and you start talking about Baal or you're talking about various iterations of mythology, not mythology, but you know, demonology, they will look at you like you're batshit crazy.
Just like if somebody were to come to you wearing a hat you don't recognize or wearing a kaftan and they give you something from their religion, you're going to look at them and you say, What the hell is this guy talking about?
He's out of his tree.
I'm not suggesting that religion doesn't matter.
I'm not suggesting that at all.
I think it has a lot to do with it.
But when we're dealing with subjects like this and we're talking about this on a public level, leave that at home.
Don't hit them with the demonology right away.
Okay?
I know you don't see it that way.
I'm not trying to say it's not true, but do yourself a favor.
Number two, if somebody does not accept your preferred.
Love of this subject, don't give them a hard time about it.
Don't yell at them.
And because you have this thing about, you know, antidepressants, don't yell at them either.
It's a very complicated thing.
That's all that we're talking about.
So we've got this guy from trigonometry who never heard, apparently has no idea what he's talking about, Candace.
He's making a statement.
I think that could be blasphemous, not blasphemous, libelous, though I don't think you should sue.
And we have a variety of other things too.
But the thesis of what we're talking about and what Candace is saying is right we don't care what you say.
We want to get to the bottom of this.
And the people who are going to get to the bottom of this will not be Kash Patel, will not be the DOJ.
You could forget it.
You could forget the DOJ.
You could forget them.
You could say absolutely nothing.
But what I want to do, and by the way, I'm going to do another thing on the Antichrist.
And the Antichrist people I've read, they don't even, they've never studied it.
They have, you know, the Antichrist is not, it's one, no, you don't know what you're talking about.
You're just thinking what you think Antichrist is.
This is their term.
This is from the book of John.
This is the development of stuff.
And not everybody recognizes it.
I see people who say things that are just, I've never seen it.
There's such an incivility.
I hear people say things to me all the time.
I don't necessarily agree with it, but I don't get mad at them and I don't shut them down.
I don't tell them to be quiet.
And I sure as hell, this isn't new, but I sure as hell, I'm not going to say that somebody accused Erica Kirk, okay?
But Erica Kirk has a very simple definition.
It's very simple.
And it's a clinical definition.
And it's fucked up.
Pardon my French, that's what we call it in our country.
You can go to anybody and say, Do you know what this means?
Oh, I know what that means.
Do you know what demons are?
Kinda.
Do you know what the Antichrist is?
No, I don't know about that.
Do you know about MKUltra?
No.
Do you know about.
No, I don't know about that.
But you know what?
Royally fucked up?
Oh, yeah, I know what that is.
Absolutely.
This is something people know.
Ronald White says, Lionel, my man, question How can this lawsuit even be filed?
When there's clear evidence against Brian, why would they take this case?
Why would the lawyers take this case?
Because they apparently think something different from you.
Why Lawyers Take the Case 00:03:10
Number one.
Number two, anybody can file a case.
Now, remember, in the case of Rudy Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani, they basically disbarred him from DC because they said, you didn't have a basis for this at all.
I think a lot of people who file stuff today don't have a basis for us either.
So we'll see it.
But to file it, It is almost, if you can afford the filing fee, it's filed and you serve them, that's it.
Later on, it can be dismissed and that sort of thing.
But I want people to understand something.
And I'm going to start with my class.
And I wanted to speak to you and I'm trying to explain this to you.
We're not going to go into theories and hypotheses, and not everybody endorses.
Again, demons are fascinating.
Not everybody's into demons.
Just saying.
I'm just saying.
And who is to say that demons cannot be applied with co morbidity, so to speak?
Now, first and foremost, in our culture, ladies and gentlemen, if I said to you, I want you to play a killer, okay, you're an actor.
And this is a killer similar to Charles Manson.
This is a guy who is a cult leader, this is a guy who utilizes this, who is the embodiment of evil.
How would you, as an actor, take on this role?
What would be the first thing you did?
What's the first thing you do?
What?
What's the first thing?
The eyes.
You would do this.
When everybody said Manson was crazy, it was his eyes.
When you take something and you perhaps have an overdose or something, you have.
You've perhaps maybe you've ingested a hypnotic, your eyes are fixed and dilated.
Like this.
Kash Patel, the eyes of the windows of my.
Cash is just, by the way, poor guy.
You see where his girlfriend is holding hands the night of the.
I mean, just this poor guy.
He is being so cuckolded.
I mean, they're putting the horns on him, the tarros.
He's a conuto.
He's a cuckold.
He's being cucked.
It's sad, but we knew this.
Okay.
But I want you to think about this very, very carefully.
In this world, we've always thought about this, and I don't know what you want to know.
American.
Power or control, or whatever it is.
There's this thing that we've always thought where politics intersects with tragedy and conspiracy, and it's just incredible.
And few people have captured so much public fascination and unease, confusion like.
Engineered Eyes and Political Tragedy 00:14:50
Erica Kirk, name anybody.
Megyn Kelly, not Megyn Kelly, Meghan Markle, not Megyn Kelly, Kim Kardashian, and Anna Wintour, weird kind of people.
They don't have the eyes like that.
Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, who is, if she, I mean, she, she defies, she would be, listen, I want you to play this character, somebody who's batshit crazy, like a stalking loon.
Like this one.
When Laura Loomer is there, the thing that's the most frightening about her are not her eyes.
I'm sorry to say it, it's her face.
It's the reconstruction or the physiognomy, the architecture of this and how she's changed.
And anyway, Erica Kirk with this is fucked up.
You can call it whatever you want.
Number one, you go, who's that?
I don't know.
Is she okay?
I don't know.
Is she taking medication?
First thing a doctor will say is her medication balanced?
Has she, well, you know, she's, she suffered a tragedy when, well, she's tragedy about, we're going on eight months, eight months ago, and she's looking like this now.
There are widows and mothers of this poor girl from Ukraine.
And this woman, of course, is a widow.
She all of a sudden ascended to the role of chairwoman and TPUSA Big Shot, days, days after the assassination of Charlie in September of last year.
Days.
Who appoints her immediately?
It doesn't make any sense.
It's demented.
Not demons, not drugs, just right off the bat.
What?
And this is a woman, remember this.
She's this former Miss Arizona USA.
She was a model.
She's an actress.
She was going to be an actress.
A big shot real estate agent, founder of some Christian clothing line and a Bible ministry, and somebody who was involved in orphanages in Romania that were kicked out, never allowed.
I mean, she was just, she was just thrust into the national spotlight.
Not just as a grieving spouse and mother of two young children, but as the new steward, the captain, so to speak, of a major conservative youth organization.
And on the surface, by the way, it reads great.
The story reads like, you know, one of Brazilians and fighting back and all that amid unimaginable loss.
But if you look at it closer, if you look at it closer, you realize there's something more that's going on here.
There's something very, very Very odd, very strange.
It's so odd.
It's so weird.
It doesn't make any sense.
And what's even more phenomenal about all of this stuff is that when people like us bring it up and notice it, we notice other things.
There's something unsettling.
About her look, this vacant, hypnotic stare, this gaze, an unblinking stare that nobody has seen before, that seems to pierce through the camera.
There's Ed Franks.
Ed Franks says, Lionel, stop.
You're stopped.
Not even done yet.
Stop.
No.
This is why people aren't, you don't see any of these people talking about her.
This is the strangest thing in the world.
This is a woman who freaks people out.
She has a demeanor that evokes in people, I guess, the classic hallmarks of, you know, programmed what, dissociation or whatever.
And to those, by the way, familiar with the history of CIA, of mind control, who remember this?
Gottlieb, and just it's all there.
All of this was made available.
All of this, every bit of it, every single bit of it was made available.
It's just for you.
It was all declassified, every bit of it.
The eyes tell a story almost that's not of natural grief or natural whatever it is, but some kind of weird something that takes over this poise under pressure, so to speak.
Prince Albert doesn't sweat like Erica.
That's very good.
Very good.
Prince Albert doesn't sweat like Erica.
Prince Albert doesn't sweat like Erica doesn't have tears.
Sort of.
That's Texas Beach Girl.
She is trouble.
She is trouble, but she's a delight.
This is what nobody's talking about.
If your kid took a medication and looked like that, you'd call the doctor right away.
You'd say something's very wrong with her.
There's something about it.
Something looks almost engineered.
And we call it an MKUltra style menticide, which is the psychological murder of the self through systematic brainwashing.
Now, that's when you people hear this, they'll say, ah, it's crazy.
You want to go for demons right away?
Demons make more sense than this because MKUltra, which is, of course, a declassified CIA program, declassified in the 70s through Senate hearings and the like, was no fringe.
Crazy conspiracy theory from 1953 to the early 70s.
The agency poured millions, millions into the project.
And there were sub projects that were experimenting on unwitting American and Chinese, excuse me, and Canadian citizens.
And there were prisoners and there were mental patients, even its own agents Whitey Bulger, Ted Kaczynski.
They used LSD, they used hypnosis, sensory deprivation, electroshock, and interestingly enough, psychological torture to fracture the human mind and rebuild it as some kind of a programmable aspect or asset.
And the goal of it was simple to create this Manchurian candidate.
Now you might say, wait a minute, why would we even think this?
Who was the one who was even, she's probably closer to anything involving CIA or Intel than you are.
She does this EMP.
She does this EMP industrial with the CIA.
Her mother's connected to everybody.
I mean, think about this.
Let me just continue with this.
They want individuals who could be triggered into specific behaviors or to deliver messages or maintain cover stories without any kind of conscious awareness.
When you're involved in this, You don't have to go out and kill somebody.
It's not that she's out there and she gets the signal and somebody blows a whistle and she goes.
No, she can do something as simple as just take on an affect, take on something.
You don't have to do anything.
She goes into this trance and declassified documents that people have seen after years and years.
No thanks to Pam Bondi.
Show subjects that exhibited like trance like states and this robotic compliance.
And crucially, The eyes.
It's a glassy, kind of an unfixed, unfocused, but intensely staring.
As if the soul had been, you know, hollowed out or cut out and replaced by some kind of routine.
Menticide.
Listen to this.
This is a term that was coined by psychologist Juiced Mirloo.
And he wrote this 1958 book entitled The Rape, 1956, rather, The Rape of the Mind.
And it describes this process the deliberate annihilation of free will through prolonged psychological assault that leaves the victim kind of a shell, you know, programmed to serve external handlers.
Now, what is it?
Who knows?
I mean, there's.
Obvious cases.
Erica's viral podcast clips, remember that?
And the public statements displayed precisely the symptoms as if her mind had been subjected to maybe the same techniques, once reserved for, you know, Cold War espionage.
Look at her.
You saw this immediately.
Everybody saw this.
Observe her eyes in clip after clip.
She didn't notice it.
Clip after clip that you can still see on any kind of social media, on YouTube or whatever, and news outlets.
Erica's gaze is not just intense, it's like hypnotic.
It's almost like predatory.
It's wild.
It's stillness.
Remember during that Barry Weiss, the CBS town hall?
She, the moment that Candace Owens heard her name mentioned, what is a Manchurian candidate exactly?
This is it.
Somebody who, you got to watch the movie with Frank Sinatra and.
Was it Lawrence Harvey?
Watch the movie.
It's where you are.
Processed to be a killer, but you don't have to go out and harm people.
Remember when Candace Owens' name was mentioned?
Remember?
Remember that?
Her face shifts from the practice smile to what observers dubbed the death stare.
Crazy eyes, crazy eyes.
Pupils dilated yet unfocused, lids barely blinking.
The stare.
Remember the stare locked forward as if she's channeling something beyond the immediate.
I mean, people said it left and right.
She went from all smiles to this death stare.
And this is no ordinary emotional reaction.
Normal human grief or anger kind of flickers with, they call it micro expressions, you know, shuttle shifts in the muscles around the eyes.
You don't go like that.
Tears begin to well, not there.
Averted glances.
Erica's stare is preternaturally steady, as if a switch had been flipped.
And it lingers too long, too perfectly calibrated.
And it indicates and evokes kind of like the thousand yard stare described in accounts of a lot of MKUltra people and survivors, by the way, like those subjected to, remember, Dr. Ewan Cameron's psychic driving experiments.
It was at the Allen Memorial Institute.
And the study is that patients were reduced to kind of like catatonic states where the repetitive audio loops and drugs are merging with eyes that appeared alive but empty, fixed in dissociation.
Now, nobody's talking about her being at that level or anywhere near that.
But you understand the hypnotic part of this?
Do you think this is beyond the realm of possibilities?
It's almost like it's a trigger word.
And the thing about the Manchurian candidate, remember in, it was in, oh, Naked Gun with the episode or the version with Ricardo Montalban, where he says, I will kill Pap Schmeer.
Remember that?
She has the click, and by hitting this click, there was some kind of a trigger.
She's got this hypnotic thing that appears repeatedly.
In a podcast in April, she pauses mid sentence during a discussion.
Remember this?
Might have been, I think it was over the hat, or she wore that sniper's hat.
And she's discussing conspiracy theories or whatever surrounding her, you know, the death of Charlie, and her eyes glazing over as she stares directly into the camera.
For several, I guess, would you want to call them unnaturally prolonged seconds?
And a lot of people, commenters across the social media universe, refer to the scary eyes and evil eyes or demonic body language.
And they're saying, What was this about?
I mean, what is this about?
What is this?
Why is she doing this?
And they analyze this repeatedly over and over again.
Ricky two times says MK often handlers and setups.
Very, you know, very interesting.
We don't know, but thank you.
Interesting.
The Fascinating Trial Story 00:12:00
But look at how all of a sudden she's like triggered.
It is the most fascinating story in the world.
And They notice the almost controlling nature of that fixed gaze, the way it seems to command the viewer rather than connect.
See, she's also kind of doing it to you.
She wants you to look at her.
Somebody called it the evil eyes and the viral videos.
And it's a phrase that has trended.
Even folks, even those who are like casual observers on various platforms, and that's where this happens, they point out the same thing.
Her eyes don't.
Emote anything naturally.
They lock, they penetrate, they hold, which people have said is the hallmarks of somebody whose emotional ability, the processing mechanism has been rerouted to some kind of trauma based, I don't know, programming.
Who knows?
Now, in classic MKUltra literature, this is called the programmer's gaze.
See, the subject's eyes betray the eternal fracture.
Where the front persona operates, while alters, by the way, this is you like nuance?
Alters are programmed personalities.
They lurk behind, triggered by keywords like conspiracy or assassination or Candace or who knows.
It's almost like, oh, it's wild.
Compare all of this to the documented symptoms of mental side or brainwashing.
Compare that, it's incredible.
This Mirlu, this Dr. Mirlu, detailed how brainwashed individuals develop a hypnotic stare.
It's kind of as a defense mechanism, or rather, they call it as scar tissue.
I love this phrase scar tissue of the mind's violation.
The eyes became windows not to the soul, but to this void where the soul once resided.
Oh, this is interesting.
And subjects in CIA experience, by the way, this is so interesting.
Often, Said they noticed that they were like, there's weird staring and the unblinking fixation, the robotic cadence to speech.
Stop it.
Stop.
Stop.
Lowering the voice.
Words compress.
Staring, the robot.
And it matches delivery in these interviews that were really critical.
She speaks with conviction about faith, family, and leadership.
Yet, the eyes betray no authentic flicker of vulnerability.
Nothing.
Post assassination, most people would expect, understandably, raw emotion, puffy eyes from crying, you know, darting glances, paranoia, freaked out, hollow exhaustion, true mourning, shelled out cord.
Your soul is just instead, this public facade is like eerily, it's like maintained, it's composed.
Her stare is constant, as if she's been conditioned to project strength.
While her core self remains compartmentalized.
You see, now here's cash doing it.
Okay.
This aligns with the listen, I've been reading about the sub project 68 of MKUltra.
This is where hypnosis and drugs we're not thinking about drugs, we don't know, but the point is it creates hypnotic couriers.
Let me ask you something.
Do you understand?
Does this sound crazy to you?
Don Beaton said, Ian Carroll exposes bottle room plans, must watch.
Thank you.
You know, we know about this, right?
But I'm glad to see Ian Carroll is back.
Now, here's what's important.
This is what's really critical.
How is it that everybody is so, why are so many people focused on having any kind of comment regarding her shut down?
Why?
Why?
Why are they so concerned and so worried and so Focused on everything being shut down.
Don't say anything.
She's a widow.
I don't know.
I'm just an observer.
I'm looking at the patient.
Patient's got a fever.
Patient's got a rash.
The patient's not moving.
The patient's unconscious.
I'm just pointing things out.
I'm telling you kind of where I'm going.
This is incredible.
And by the way, the ballroom, none of it is secret.
None of us see it.
Lindsey Graham said everything.
There's no, nobody's hiding that room.
Nobody.
You know that, right?
Nobody.
They don't, they don't hide anything.
They don't, they're, they just don't.
And here's the best part nobody cares about you because you and your silly Candace and your fixation, you've got this cult where you love her and you, you just want to be your girlfriend and, This is what they make it sound like.
This is so terrific.
And instead, you would think somebody would say, listen, Erica, you can't go on in public.
You're too freaky.
You're scaring people.
No, they don't do that.
They don't do it.
So this is, we haven't even gotten yet to the trial.
This is nothing.
This is nothing.
Wait until the trial gets going.
Not these lawsuits, the criminal trial.
This is going to blow your mind.
And if they have this, I hope they have it, televised, I'll be watching.
I'm sure Barron will be watching.
We'll watch every moment of it and tell you what's going on.
This is it for them.
See, they thought this guy would have been whacked, but he slipped through.
Just like that dude who came in and who happened to almost shoot up that place.
And you saw going back.
Did you see this back, back about his that Pepe the Frog reference to the shooter?
I mean, it's wild.
You have to look at how there are too many people who have too much information and too much stuff that they want you to know.
They want you to be aware of this.
And in order for you to live in this world, you have to know things like this.
Everything I'm telling you was declassified.
If you're watching Fox News or CNN or reading the newspapers, nobody even approaches this.
If you mention ballroom and the like, they're saying, What are you?
What is with you and Moloch and all these?
What is this?
Pazuzu, remember him from The Exorcist?
You people are sick.
You're into this.
Your cult high priestess is Candace.
She's loonier than I am.
This is what people are saying.
They think she's loony, they think she's crazy.
They think she's some kind of, and they think you are just, you hate her or something.
There is going to be a lawsuit and Laura Loomer trying drastically to get into the mix.
Candace intimated maybe one of the reasons that Laura Loomer has some polls because maybe she and Trump did something.
If that video of her at that bar or event, when she was basically mauling and accosting and assaulting that young man, if this is legitimate, if that's her MO.
You don't think it's possible that something untoward went between her and President Trump?
Is it beyond the realm of reason?
No.
So is she being kept out of some kind of blackmail?
I don't know.
Every father should get their son and say, Come here.
Don't let your mother know I told you this, but you see that woman there?
This is a nut.
This is evil.
This is a fatal attraction that you have to avoid at all costs.
This is understand.
It's like knowing wild mushrooms.
Don't eat the ones with the red blotches.
So you've got Candace and Loomer desperately trying to insinuate herself.
I wish, I'd like to see if we could just for just, it might be fun.
But it would, but you really can't do that today.
But to ignore Laura Loomer, she would go berserk.
If you said she's not important, she would implode if you said this.
And now, did you hear what this talk?
I don't know if it's true or not.
But Bezos is thinking about extending a new apprentice or whatever it is to Don Jr.
Trump doesn't like that one for a variety of reasons.
Do you see where this, see all the background stuff?
The Iranian war is completely off the chain, batshit, crazy.
I don't even know what this is.
Do you understand this?
Do you understand this?
This is one of the most important things in the world.
Are you following this?
It is brilliant.
And everybody is just kind of chattering about things that don't really matter.
What Candace is about is nothing more than who killed Charlie.
That's it.
TPUSA, are they bad people?
And COVID, did he do this?
And McCoy did this?
No, no, no, no.
That's secondary.
Nobody cares.
That whole organization is going to implode.
That's a different story.
This is what we're talking about.
This is critical.
This.
Who killed Charlie?
Because somebody really screwed up and they didn't even care.
Nobody's even acting like they care anything about what happened regarding this.
This assassination attempt, and nobody even understands the fact that it was almost like, Did somebody hit?
I'm going to go a step further.
Erica's reaction was so out of the ordinary.
I know she's a media addict and attention addict, but it was almost like somebody gave her the signal.
She reacted to something which was not, how do I say this?
It wasn't commensurate with what happened.
She acted in a way that nobody was acting.
Nobody ran.
Nobody was screaming.
Nobody, nothing.
They were sitting around taking bottles.
They met at the White House afterwards.
And why was she even there?
She's not even a correspondent.
I guess it doesn't matter.
One could argue that Dana White's not a correspondent.
Donovan says, Paul Harvey broadcast in 1965.
If I Were the Devil 00:03:25
If I were the devil, I know.
He was very good.
Boy, Donovan, you are just a veritable.
Do this.
Watch Ian Carroll.
Okay.
We're going to do that.
We're going to do that.
The devil, I don't want to get into because it's a very, very, it's a very, very.
People get very upset about that.
They get very upset.
I don't have enough time.
There's some things I don't.
Spend a lot of time on, so I don't engage in people.
But I venture to say if you ask somebody, where, what have you studied about the devil?
Oh, I've studied.
No, seriously.
When did it come about?
When, why does the Catholic Church seem to notice so much about, has the only mechanism for removal, namely the exorcism?
Why don't Protestants have that?
Why don't other faiths have that?
Why just the Catholic Church?
Why, for the most part?
An exorcist is always a Catholic priest.
This is the province of the Catholic Church, of the Catholic ideology or theology.
Why is that?
Why do you think that is?
Why?
What is the reason for that?
When did the image of Satan with the arrow tail and the hooves and the fetlocks and all that come about?
Why did it come about?
Do you know the history behind that?
Read it.
Please, you have if you have.
And you know, for the most part, Google is, it's all right.
Wikipedia, it's good in finding out when people died and that sort of thing.
But I want you to spend yourself a time.
Get your phone, get ChatGPT.
It's really good.
Absolutely.
And ask yourself the other day, I had this picture of somebody.
It was a divine, I forget what the hell it was.
It was either a filter or something, or there were a lot of.
I didn't have the instructions.
And I just took a picture of the front of this and asked ChatGPD, is this okay?
What's out of the range?
And it knew what to ask.
Well, you might want to check the bifusional one.
It's the most incredible thing.
So, what you should do, promise me you'll do this.
Take ChatGPD and just say, give me the history of our current.
Modern, if you will, ideation or understanding of the devil, the way it looks, the history of it, and ask all the questions.
Why don't other faiths have it?
It'll come up with something, 2,000 words, five, whatever you want, however complicated you want.
And you can even put it on speaker so it will translate for you so you don't even have to read it.
Create it.
Do yourself a favor.
Ask where it came from.
Did the Old Testament really speak to a devil?
Was it really what you think?
Oftentimes it's not.
Just like people think, think that Candace threatened or said, they think they know, but they don't, they never really, they never went through this.
Where Did This Come From 00:03:37
They never looked and saw how this thing really comes about.
And they have this idea where they'll say it's SSRIs, and there's no research that's being done.
None.
None.
There's a lot of reasons to suspect we may have a problem here, but there's just no research.
I'm learning constantly about, oh my God, so much about everything.
The Strait of Hormuz, the Bab el Mandab, the Bab el Mandab.
This is the Gate of Tears.
This is the monster.
This is a Red Sea to the Suez Canal.
Read about this.
Do you do this?
Ask yourself who are the Houthis?
What's Hezbollah?
Where are they from?
Who started Hamas?
Do you know where Hamas came from?
Do you know where that?
You're not going to believe it.
You got to look it up.
You've got to look and see what things are up.
Did you see where Spirit Airlines went out?
Spirit.
How does an airline go out of business?
Have you been on Spirit?
I've never been.
They said it is the worst airline.
What is the worst airline you have ever been on?
Because now we're finding out that not only is it bad service in some respects, but you have some of the craziest people.
We used to have the expression going postal.
Now it's going airline or something.
It's incredible.
I love Ryanair.
All these drunk people.
I don't know if this is true or not, but they always, on YouTube, they love to have this version of.
Anyway, but it's so interesting.
People were going nuts about this story.
It's like, what are you supposed to say?
What do you.
Spirit air.
They say, well, maybe they might be able to.
Are they going to?
I think JetBlue did a reach out.
Okay.
What's the story, though?
Why are there so many crazy people?
Why?
Same people are flying.
There was a time when people were absolutely positively, seriously.
Look at it.
Anyway, you know that routine.
It's phenomenal.
I think JetBlue is the best.
I'm exclusively JetBlue.
They are just no problem.
No, I don't.
Care about who was it?
Um, my friend said on spirit, they were going to charge him for water, you know, little things like that.
Say, don't do that.
Pretty soon, they're going to charge people for the restroom.
We are on the verge, my friends, of seeing a complete and total decline, a collapse of civilization.
And if you really want to see it, go on any kind of airline.
Just look at the people, look at this low rent trash, these subhuman hominid.
I don't know who these people are, vile, low rent, horrid people, demented.
Horrible value jet.
By the way, I heard Air Alaska was good.
When you say it's good, what does that mean?
I know people who love the Southwest.
I love Southwest.
I was on United one time.
That's nice.
What does it do?
It gets you there and comes back.
JetBlue had its, they were like really fun.
Hi, this is Jerry.
Don't Let Them Know Everything 00:08:34
And I'm going to, hey, you know, they were friendly.
There was a poor girl, shrimp, big girl.
She was this.
She was one of the flights, well, the stewards or the air, whatever they call it.
And this woman was rather large.
And I thought, you know, if we really, if there's a problem like we had in that one airline, is she able to get, can she, I'm sorry, I don't want to, is she able to, there was a time when, of course, being a stewardess, if you said, I'm dating a stewardess, wow, that's like saying model or actress or something.
Now it means nothing.
It's completely, totally nuts.
So that's what I want you to do.
I want you to ask yourself questions why and be ready.
Be ready.
Now remember, have a wonderful time.
Don't get hung up on demonic.
Whatever you want, remember something.
I need something I can work with.
And I have a hard time going to the rest of the world, let's say elsewhere, and saying it's based on deen.
That Erica is demonic, that she's a demon.
I think they can buy things.
You got to understand, even though I don't necessarily say, and I know you're sincere, people think you're batshit crazy if you say demons and Satan.
You know that, right?
I'm just telling you.
I'm just telling you.
Doesn't mean it's not true.
So always ask yourself who is my audience?
Do I really want to say it this way?
Or do I want to say something that maybe they'll understand?
Don't always show your hand.
Don't let people know what you think spiritually.
Don't let people know what you think in terms of your faith or your beliefs.
There's no reason for people, they don't have to know this.
They don't have to know this.
Okay?
People have this idea that somehow they want to share it with the world, that they want to tell you about the fact that they're into astrology or numerology or their tarot or they're empathic or they're.
Whenever somebody tells me I'm empathic and I can feel it, I think, okay.
That comes across, I'm sorry to say this, as nut.
Don't let people know what you feel.
Your belief system, your faith is a very personal thing.
It should be cherished, it should be protected.
Don't tell the world this.
They haven't earned it.
Let them figure it out.
Don't let the world know everything you think.
I know you want to when you're very happy and you think, well, of course, everybody thinks like that.
No, they don't.
There's a tendency where people love to say too much about how they were.
Mentally ill, or they were drug addicts, or they were in prison, or they were, you know, that's good.
But ask yourself, why am I telling people this?
Is this going to be something that they're going to help me with?
Don't, because people do not want to help you.
They want to use everything they can against you.
Don't trust anybody.
Don't tell anybody about your family.
Don't let, don't just don't do it.
You can't trust anybody.
This is a very sick world.
You want to talk about demons.
These people are absolutely sick.
Don't let them know what's on your mind.
Don't let them know what your problems are.
If you ever don't feel like you can talk about things that you went through and problems you had with the law, or nobody wants to hear that, they will use it against you.
I'm sorry, but it's true, and you know I'm telling you the truth.
Okay, you got that?
You got that terrific.
Um, I don't know what when people write in big capital letters like this.
Morning.
A lot of viewers when you went live in the mornings.
Yeah, so and so.
So, so.
I can show you.
Would you ask me, would you like to see the metrics?
We have metrics.
And our metrics tell us everything you'd be surprised.
I can tell you stuff you wouldn't believe, what YouTube can tell you.
But anyway, but I thank you for that.
Sometimes, sometimes, and I know people should never be embarrassed about anything that they've done, but really and truly, Just like you don't want your kids to say things, don't let your kids tell parents, just don't tell anybody anything.
Here in New Jersey, I don't know if you have this, but they had this like at the end of the year, school year, they would have these signs in front of school, in front of houses.
Congratulations, Megan or Michaela from Montclair High School.
And some pervert says, Oh, you got a 17 or 18 year old in there, huh?
Good, thanks.
Her name is Michaela.
Thank you.
Why do people do that?
Remember, baby on board.
My son is student of the week at, uh huh, good.
Anything else you want to tell me?
Why are you telling me this?
Why?
I was telling somebody the other day who we were someplace and they said, Alexa, do this.
Alexa, what's the square root of 11?
Alexa, play some, and say, Excuse me.
Do you think Alexa's listening to you?
What?
Do you think Alexa's listening to you?
Well, maybe.
Where do you think this is going?
You're bringing a surveillance.
Equipment into your home so you can talk to it and play some music on some shitty speaker.
Why are you doing this?
How do I convey to people what are you doing?
1984 wasn't an instruction manual, and they look at me like, What do you want?
A lot of these people are young.
Somebody wrote something before he said, Yeah, you and your SSRI stuff, they don't know about this.
Say, You, you 62 year old, excuse me.
67.
Get it right.
But the young people, clueless.
We're supposed to be the old people.
We're the ones who know about Vietnam.
We know about JFK.
We're far more suspicious.
A lot of these young people are walking around with their head up their ass, walking around in slides and pajamas, talking to their hand.
Another thing, too.
I hope you pray if you believe in prayer.
I hope Alex Jones lands on his feet.
I think he will.
I think he's got supporters and angels out there helping him.
Because he's a very, very critical person in this opinion world that we live in.
He's very important, very critical, very necessary.
There's a whole lot of stuff out there.
Do you ever talk?
Do your friends talk about the war in Iran?
About what's going on in Iran?
How about the people being bombed in Somalia?
You aware of that?
Huh?
Huh?
What?
Huh?
Max Blumenthal gave a wonderful discussion with Judge Napolitano.
It was brilliant.
99% of everybody I know has not a clue.
It's like, well, whatever.
Iran, they're just bad.
And, you know, they're okay.
All right.
All right.
It's frustrating.
I realize that maybe, maybe, if I'm lucky, most audiences, if I can get a 30%, meaning if they're 30% aware of what I'm talking about, that's pretty good.
Most people have no idea.
They're very opinionated in terms of things they know nothing about.
They're very opinionated.
They're very strong about things.
They know everything about seed oil.
They can't tell you anything about seed oil.
They're experts overnight.
They don't know the omega 6 to 3 ratio.
Been talking about this forever.
Forever.
That's like the oldest thing in the book.
But they just discovered this.
Oh, no, no, this is a different story.
It's like methylene blue.
I'm taking my methylene blue because of my mitochondria.
What about it?
I don't know.
What do the mitochondria do?
Energy part?
I don't know.
What does methylene blue do for the mitochondria?
There's just such bullshit.
Don't eat oatmeal.
What?
Porridge?
Oatmeal?
Grain?
Opinionated Experts Who Know Nothing 00:05:56
What are you talking about?
There's just this, they just overnight.
I'm paleo.
Oh, I'm into raw meat.
I'm into raw meat.
And here's another one, too.
God forgive me.
Please forgive me.
Have you ever seen Michaela?
What's his name?
Oh, what's his name?
The fellow.
You know who I'm talking about.
Oh, Jordan Peterson.
His daughter comes up with a flat face.
I'm here to tell you that my father is doing terrible.
He can't move.
My father says.
My father's doing this, and I give six minutes.
What is this?
What the hell is going on?
You can't move, and you can't do this, and you can't do this.
I don't know.
Is she moving?
Is her mouth moving?
I'm worried about you, honey.
Are you okay?
And my father's this, and you said, What?
The bad news.
Once you have a seat, somebody give her a drink of water or something.
Are you okay?
Are you okay?
I know he's sick and he's always been, but are you okay?
What's going on here?
It's really weird.
And by the Bobby Kennedy, what the hell is Bobby Kennedy doing now?
Bobby Kennedy said they were talking something about vaccines.
They said, don't you mention vaccines.
You were supposed to go in their clean house, and now you're talking about red dye number three, and you want to fry taters in beef tallow.
I'm telling you, this place is nuts.
This is, I see things completely differently.
I'm telling you, I don't know.
The good news is, I'm thinking, Candace, thank you.
At least she's trying to get to who killed Charlie.
That's what it's about.
It's not uprooting or trying to reorganize TPUSA.
That's not it.
They're coming after her, which is a big mistake.
It's who killed Charlie.
That's what this is all about.
None of this other business.
We don't care about that.
We don't care.
I don't care what happened, soup, whatever.
Tyler Robinson didn't do it.
Go ahead.
Where are you going to find this out?
Where?
Most people do not know.
They don't listen to us.
So that's where we are right now, my friend.
Okay?
We're going to forge ahead.
Remember, we're in an insane asylum.
The world is crazy.
Crazy, ignorant, nescient, know nothings, just incredible, scary stuff.
All right?
But you're different.
You're smarter than that.
So do me a favor, dear friends.
If you can tonight, between, I'm going to give them a 2 p.m., 2 p.m., 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. Eastern on WABC.
Ooh.
I say some stuff and I know because we're on the same side.
But half of what they believe in is ridiculous.
It's like, what is this, 1985?
Come on, let's go.
It's a new world out there.
It's a new world.
And it's tough being out there.
And by the way, remember, if you're looking for 67 year old people bother you and you want to find out, you want to hang around 37 year olds, where are you going to go?
Where?
There are a few.
There's a few, but very few.
Very, we know a lot of stuff.
Remember that.
Not all of us, most of people my age is full of shit.
They're tired, they don't really care about this.
But remember, we know a lot of stuff.
We have this thing not wisdom, it's called judgment.
We know how to balance two different things.
That's all.
Thank you, my friends.
Thank you so much for your kindness.
Thank you for your donations and the like, for your super chats and the like.
Please follow Mrs. Al at Lynn's Warriors.
Make sure you like this video.
Make sure you like this video.
Check out my piece on a more thorough, full throated story about MKUltra and Erica.
And I'm also going to be doing a new one, which I think you need to hear on the, on the, really, the Antichrist, which is just phenomenal.
And most people say, it's it.
And they've never read anything about it, they don't know anything.
Anything about the, they think they know what the Antichrist is.
They just, they know it's bad.
And again, not every Christian believes in it or hears about that.
So we're going to be hearing about that.
All right.
All right.
I love yous.
You are absolutely the best.
Remember, thank you for your civility.
And if you meet somebody who says something you don't agree with, half of the time they don't want your opinion, but just do what I say.
Just say, interesting, and move on.
Don't waste your time trying to tell people.
I don't, I don't tell people.
I say stuff all the time.
It's just ridiculous.
It's just ridiculous.
I'm not even going to waste my time.
You're not going to get my services for free.
You're not.
And people will say all kinds of stuff, and they say it with such certitude, and they don't know why they're saying it.
But it's like there's these loops.
They're like a little MKUltra themselves.
They're into this, they say these things.
So, anyway, we love you.
Have a great and a glorious day.
Don't forget what.
But Cash says, anybody see my girlfriend?
Cash, she's with some dude holding hands.
Huh?
What was that?
And Doc says, Bobby K is okay.
He used to snort cocaine off the backs of toilet seats in the 70s, for God's sakes.
I think it was the heroin part, which is a problem.
And remember, all of that changes your brain chemistry.
That's all I'm saying.
Be very careful of that.
God bless people for getting off this stuff.
God bless people, but be very careful.
If somebody tells you they're a heroin addict or were, be very, very careful.
That's all I'm saying.
You don't walk away from that unscathed.
All right, dear friends, have a great and a glorious and a beautiful night.
Happy Saturday to you.
I hope you are doing well.
We will talk tomorrow.
And until then, my friends, remember the monkey's dead.
The show's over, sue you.
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