Lionel Nation - When Tyler Robinson Walks Erika Kirk Will Explode! Aired: 2026-04-21 Duration: 26:21 === Alaska Case Zeal (04:16) === [00:00:01] It is critical that I remind you of where we are today. [00:00:05] Because with all that's going on and all that's being said and all of this, it's got to be tough for you to go through these mountains of evidence and every caliber of the rival 30 out of 6, Mauser 98. [00:00:18] Is this it? [00:00:19] Was it a frangible? [00:00:21] Is it a piece? [00:00:22] Is it or is it not connected? [00:00:23] What's going on? [00:00:24] Was it a confession? [00:00:25] Was it not? [00:00:26] Is this a trial? [00:00:27] What's a hearing? [00:00:27] What is a hearing anyway? [00:00:28] What's going on? [00:00:29] Is he going to walk? [00:00:30] Is he going to wait? [00:00:31] Stop. [00:00:35] Let Grandpa tell you here what's going on. [00:00:37] The case is over, and sometimes through our zeal, our fascination, we want to go over every aspect of it because it's kind of who we are. [00:00:47] We want you to know every little interstitial thing, and some people want to let you know that they know a lot about this. [00:00:52] And we have some of the best experts there are on everything from ballistics to criminology to criminalism to you name it. [00:01:04] But you get lost in this, and I don't blame you. [00:01:07] You're wondering, but what does all this mean? [00:01:08] This is overwhelming. [00:01:10] The bottom line is this case sucks. [00:01:14] It's going to die. [00:01:17] The patient, unfortunately, is going to die soon, later. [00:01:24] And if worse comes to worse, in an appellate review where the case will be reversed, it won't even go that far. [00:01:31] If this were any other case, if I were the prosecutor, and instead of Tyler Robinson, it was Tyler Lipschitz or somebody, I would say, No, we're not. [00:01:42] No, I'm going to charge you with manslaughter or something. [00:01:45] I'm going to give you a plea in prosecution. [00:01:48] Give me a strong misdemeanor versus a weak felony. [00:01:54] Give me something I'm going to win on. [00:01:56] It may not be perfect. [00:01:57] This case is a dog. [00:01:59] And this prosecutor who's got this handed to him or her or them must be thinking, What's going on here? [00:02:06] And the judge? [00:02:08] The judge who wants to retire, the judge who most probably lives in the state like every other one where judges are elected, doesn't want to be the next Judge Edo. [00:02:17] So everybody's freaked out. [00:02:19] But rest assured, if this were any other case, any other defendant, any other time, this case would be settled. [00:02:25] It wouldn't even be filed. [00:02:28] Aggravated capital. [00:02:30] What? [00:02:31] Based on this, there's no evidence. [00:02:35] Let me say this again there's no evidence. [00:02:38] So hang on. 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[00:04:32] I give you 10, 15 different subjects and scenarios that are not, you know, beyond the realm of rationale. [00:04:40] But let me explain something to you. [00:04:43] Imagine I'm the defense lawyer. [00:04:44] I'm Tyler's defense lawyer. [00:04:46] And I love to make things simple. [00:04:47] And I'm going to say, folks, in fact, I'm going to go a little bit beyond. [00:04:53] This is not exactly what I would be telling people in the courtroom, but it's what I'm telling you. [00:04:58] You've heard a lot of things about this. [00:05:01] I mean, everything from. [00:05:04] Members of TPUSA, exploding microphones, government agents, American agents, Israeli agents, Mossad, Bibi, the Jewish lobby, the Christian lobby, the everybody lobby, the main lobby, you name it. [00:05:24] You've heard everything. [00:05:26] And those are plausible. [00:05:28] Those are not beyond the realm of possibility, but those are hypotheses. [00:05:34] Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, by the way, I wouldn't be saying that, I'm telling you that. [00:05:39] You will not be asked to weigh hypotheses. [00:05:44] I am asking you whether you have any reasonable doubt that the state of Utah has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Tyler Robinson knowingly, affirmatively, willingly, with malice, aforethought, premeditation, killed Charlie Kirk. [00:06:08] okay you got it okay now you're going to go back into that jury room and you're going to say all right now what are we what are we going to use to prove it what what well let's take let's go right to the best part the weapon [00:06:32] Let's assume that you, instead of a rifle, are being given this, a lint brush. [00:06:42] A lint brush. [00:06:43] And you say, what the hell does a lint brush have to do with this? [00:06:46] Well, Charlie Kirk's fingerprints were on the lint brush. [00:06:53] All right. [00:06:54] And what do you mean, and this was found at the murder scene? [00:07:01] Is it, did it, did it shoot anything? [00:07:07] No, there's no evidence that this was directly responsible for, and by the way, this is the definition of a handgun or a bullet, something that expels a projectile by explosion. [00:07:23] There's no evidence of this. [00:07:25] But just because there's no evidence doesn't exonerate him. [00:07:32] What? [00:07:33] No, no, you don't understand. [00:07:34] Just because there's no evidence that this lint brush had anything to do doesn't mean that it had nothing to do. [00:07:41] It could have something to do. [00:07:43] There's just no evidence of it. [00:07:44] Wait a minute. [00:07:47] Aren't you saying the same thing? [00:07:49] Yeah, but I'm going to say it in such a way that I'm going to confuse you. [00:07:53] And that's what we have. [00:07:54] You have a Mauser, this Mauser Model 98. [00:07:58] What was it last? [00:07:59] What was it developed in 1898? [00:08:02] Was it 1935? [00:08:04] It was last produced. [00:08:05] How old? [00:08:07] I don't want to get too much into it, but this rifle they found, I'd love to see how old is it? [00:08:12] When was it last fired? [00:08:15] Does it fire? [00:08:17] Does it fire? [00:08:18] So we don't know these things. [00:08:21] We don't know these things. [00:08:23] But all I know is this. [00:08:25] There should be a ticket, so to speak, a connection between the rifle, between the firearm, and the murder. [00:08:32] And it reads something like this. [00:08:35] Imagine this is a rifle now. [00:08:37] This was found at the scene. [00:08:40] We fired a round, a 30-odd six, through this. [00:08:47] And we took this and fired into a pool of water. [00:08:53] By the way, it's interesting. [00:08:54] You know, when you shoot a bullet around into water, it slows down. [00:08:59] Remember the movie Saving Private Ryan and the porn version called Shaving Ryan's Private? [00:09:04] Anyway, remember when they were underneath and these bullets were hitting them? [00:09:09] That's impossible. [00:09:11] When a bullet hits the water, it just slows down, it just stops. [00:09:14] I mean, if you're right at that surface, you can be hit, but it stops. [00:09:18] So, what they do is they shoot it into water. [00:09:21] And then they take the round and they look at the grooves, the lands and grooves of the round because a bullet goes through a rifle and the rifle is rifled. [00:09:39] They have rifling. [00:09:41] You can look inside and see grooves like lines, like somebody drilled, not drilled, but carved these circular lines into the barrel to give the bullet spin. [00:09:54] When it grows through, it follows the lands and grooves and spins. [00:09:57] And that's why it's like a quarterback has a spiral. [00:10:03] It's how a bullet hits versus a musket ball, which just goes through and who knows? [00:10:10] Or buckshot, which just who knows? [00:10:12] It gives you a scatter. [00:10:13] This gives you a. [00:10:16] And every rifle, everything has its own little fingerprint. [00:10:20] And you take that round from the water, you retrieve it. [00:10:25] And you take the round that is retrieved from the body and you put them next to each other in kind of a stereoscopic piece. [00:10:35] And you look through and you turn them and you try to line up the lands and the grooves. [00:10:42] And you think, oh, there it is. [00:10:44] And they sometimes will match perfectly. [00:10:49] I mean, you should see that you think, that's it. [00:10:52] This is it. [00:10:54] This is exactly how it works. [00:10:56] You got it? [00:10:59] It's only one problem. [00:11:00] We don't have that here. [00:11:02] They don't have that. [00:11:04] We don't have that because, well, nothing was found in Charlie that can be matched. [00:11:13] There might be a casing. [00:11:16] There might be some metallic something or other. [00:11:23] But there's no bullet. [00:11:27] There's no round. [00:11:28] There's nothing to compare. [00:11:30] And they're going to tell you, well, It's a 30 odd six. [00:11:35] Ah. [00:11:36] You mean the person who fired the shot, theoretically, into Charlie? [00:11:42] Use a 30 odd six? [00:11:43] Yeah. [00:11:45] So let's be crazy for a moment. [00:11:48] Let's say that this conspiracy, this group of conspirators, knowing they were going to leave that rifle out there, used a 30 odd six. [00:12:01] Makes sense. [00:12:02] If you're going to frame the Patsy. [00:12:04] I'm telling you this. [00:12:05] I wouldn't say this in court. [00:12:06] But if you're going to frame the Patsy, I'm going to say, good. [00:12:09] What has he got? [00:12:10] He's got a Mouser 30 odd six. [00:12:12] Jerry, you got a 30 odd six? [00:12:14] We got that. [00:12:14] We got it. [00:12:16] So that the real assassin used the 30 odd six. [00:12:20] But you can't use the outside, you know, the jacket. [00:12:24] That's not going to do anything. [00:12:25] It just means they're. [00:12:27] And the best part is when they say, well, it matched to a 30 caliber round. [00:12:33] 30 caliber? [00:12:35] It's like nine, that's the diameter of the bullet. [00:12:42] 30 millimeters. [00:12:44] It doesn't mean anything. [00:12:46] It's saying, what are you talking about? [00:12:48] The idea of 30 caliber, just look at this. [00:12:50] Go up there. [00:12:51] 30 caliber. [00:12:52] What does that mean? [00:12:55] Just put it in, just like I did. [00:12:56] And you hit enter. [00:12:57] And what it says is a 30 caliber version of a firearmer bullet with a bore diameter or bullet diameter of roughly 0.30 inches or 7.62 millimeters. [00:13:07] I stand corrected. [00:13:08] 0.30 inches. [00:13:09] That's it. [00:13:13] It could be a 30 out of 6 Springfield. [00:13:16] It could be a 30 30 Winchester. [00:13:17] It could be a 762 by 51 NATO. [00:13:20] It could be anything that has, remember, if it has a diameter of 0.3 inches, it could be this long. [00:13:27] It could be a bullet like this. [00:13:29] It could be like that. [00:13:31] But the, it's like an arrow, you know, they kind of look, you know, the shaft is the same, but the head's like this. [00:13:40] And who was it? [00:13:41] There was somebody, I don't know, I'm not going to mention names, but there were some people who were, you know, Trying their best to sort of explain this, and well, it didn't do very well. [00:13:51] And you got to know a little bit about this. [00:13:53] I mean, I, I, I, you know, when you start talking about things which people are not familiar with, you really kind of need an expert. [00:14:01] It's just like during the OJ case, everybody was a, was a, everybody was a blood splatter expert overnight. [00:14:08] It's like, where the hell did you come from? [00:14:10] Wow, this is the drip pattern. [00:14:11] Uh, what? [00:14:14] So there was no match. [00:14:16] So, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm back to the jury. [00:14:21] This rifle, this thing, this instrument of death that they use, that they charge, which you must and they must prove cannot be linked to this. [00:14:32] How we're not even sure what he was hit with, to be honest with you. [00:14:36] And I'm not saying plastic from an exploding mic, I'm just saying it's a lint brush. [00:14:43] It can't be connected. [00:14:46] It can't be connected. [00:14:49] So Tyler's shooting iron, granddaddy shooting iron. is not linked to the murder. [00:14:57] You got it? [00:15:03] So what's going to connect them? [00:15:05] Well, obviously it's the admission. [00:15:10] Can I just, would you take an admission alone? [00:15:15] Well, it could be. [00:15:16] Really? [00:15:18] Well, if he admitted it, all he has to do is admit it, right? [00:15:22] Yeah. [00:15:22] You sure about that? [00:15:24] Okay. [00:15:24] What if somebody at the time of this walked into the Orem or wherever the hell this place in Utah was, walked into the police station and said, by the way, I did it. [00:15:33] Yeah. [00:15:34] I took out Charlie. [00:15:35] There you go. [00:15:37] Handcuffs, put the bracelets on. [00:15:39] I did it. [00:15:39] I did it. [00:15:40] I did it because I'm uh very uh very upset with his stance on trans. [00:15:47] Uh, just I I did it. [00:15:49] Just where do I sign? [00:15:50] You go, wait, There was a great terrific, thank you so much. [00:15:56] Sign right here, no. [00:16:00] It's excuse me, because believe it or not, and this might surprise you, whenever there's any crime like this of renown, so to speak, there are people who come out of the woodwork, come out of the woodwork. [00:16:15] During the Lindbergh case, which by the way was probably the biggest case ever, they had like 400 people saying, I did it, even though it's like you're looking at the death penalty. [00:16:25] I don't care. [00:16:25] I did it. [00:16:28] So the idea that the police would turn away people who walked into Into the police station and would sign and swear. [00:16:38] That's not good enough because there's nothing tying them to the murder, right? [00:16:44] Same as Charlie. [00:16:45] I mean, Tyler, what am I saying? [00:16:47] Nothing to tie them. [00:16:49] And he didn't confess. [00:16:50] He what? [00:16:51] He didn't confess. [00:16:53] He walked into the police station and said, I'm turning myself in. [00:16:56] Do you want to confess? [00:16:57] What? [00:16:58] Confess? [00:16:58] Well, hell no. [00:17:00] They Mirandized him. [00:17:01] Crum and Miranda. [00:17:02] They Mirandized him. [00:17:05] They Mirandized him. [00:17:07] And he didn't talk. [00:17:10] Why would you turn yourself into the police and not? [00:17:13] Because he wasn't turning himself into the police to confess. [00:17:16] He was there to save himself because they told him, listen, you better do something quick because those cops are going to come after you. [00:17:20] Believe it or not, you're much safer in a jail cell than walking around because you're going to walk out one morning and you've got these red dots like, what the hell is this? [00:17:28] And you're gone. [00:17:30] Because remember, my friends, Tyler screwed the whole thing up. [00:17:36] Remember that great piece? [00:17:38] There were two different versions. [00:17:39] One was they're not going to take me alive, copper. [00:17:42] No way, sister. [00:17:44] It's not like a Jimmy Cat movie. [00:17:45] Top of the world, Ma. [00:17:46] I'm going up with a bang. [00:17:48] That's right, Ma. [00:17:49] Top of the world. [00:17:50] They're not going to take me, and I'm going to be sitting languishing in some jail cell forever. [00:17:53] No, sorry. [00:17:54] My name isn't Tyler Robinson, so let's go. [00:17:56] Take me out. [00:17:57] That was one version. [00:17:58] That's what they thought he was going to use. [00:18:00] But the one that he actually confessed to was I think I'm going to turn myself in. [00:18:07] I've got a friend in the family. [00:18:09] Let's face it. [00:18:11] I don't think you can tell who's stupid by looking at him. [00:18:14] Some people you can. [00:18:15] Tyler is not exactly a particle physicist by, I'm just guessing, just kind of guessing. [00:18:21] But let me explain something to you. [00:18:22] The bottom line is very, very, very, very simply this. [00:18:27] Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you have no evidence. [00:18:29] They want you to go in there and say, please just find him guilty of capital murder, just because they found a rifle. [00:18:46] And because he sort of maybe took responsibility for it. [00:18:56] That's not a confession. [00:18:59] Confessions are so unequivocal. [00:19:02] And by the way, people, believe it or not, people who want to confess go out of their way to do it. [00:19:07] So, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to take absolute guts on your part, but you're going to have to return a verdict of not guilty. [00:19:21] And by the way, when you pick the jury during voir dire, as we say in this, voir dire, to say or to speak the truth, this is when you do jury selection. [00:19:36] I would say, imagine you're a potential witness. [00:19:39] Mr. Johnson, this always works. [00:19:46] Have you ever been convicted or accused of something you didn't do? === The Broken Verdict (05:36) === [00:19:49] No. [00:19:49] How'd that make you feel? [00:19:53] How'd that make you feel? [00:19:54] Terrible, huh? [00:19:56] Well, if you think that's bad, you should see how he feels. [00:20:00] Mr. Johnson, let me ask you a question. [00:20:02] Can you, what do you have for breakfast today? [00:20:07] Just curious. [00:20:09] Bagel and a smear, coffee, good. [00:20:12] Can you prove that? [00:20:14] Can you prove it? [00:20:18] Probably not. [00:20:19] I mean, you maybe had it at home. [00:20:20] Nobody was watching you. [00:20:21] You weren't, there's no receipt for this. [00:20:24] I'm going to have to kind of take your word for it a little bit, right? [00:20:27] Sometimes that happens, doesn't it? [00:20:29] Sometimes you got to be able to read people. [00:20:31] And by the way, so you might say, I think this Johnson guy is telling the truth. [00:20:35] Well, first of all, why is he, why is he going to lie about, you know, breakfast, but also the way he said it? [00:20:42] Okay, good. [00:20:43] By the same token, sometimes you can look at people and you can say, I don't believe it. [00:20:49] I'm not buying it. [00:20:50] By that same instinct, it's the adverse, right? [00:20:52] Yeah, okay. [00:20:53] I'm setting them up for people later on because he's going to be hearing stuff that's not going to make any sense. [00:21:00] Mr. Johnson, let me ask you one question, one further question. [00:21:04] I want you to imagine something purely hypothetical. [00:21:08] You're at a party, Christmas party. [00:21:11] And somebody says, excuse me. [00:21:12] Yeah. [00:21:13] I couldn't help it over here, but were you on the Tyler Robinson case? [00:21:18] Yeah. [00:21:19] Yes, I was. [00:21:20] Wow. [00:21:22] Why did you find him not guilty? [00:21:25] How could you do this? [00:21:28] Do you have the conviction, the wherewithal, the gumption, whatever the hell gumption is to look somebody in the eye and say, you better believe I did. [00:21:37] Why? [00:21:37] Because there's no evidence because I was there every day and you weren't. [00:21:41] Are you proud or could you be proud? [00:21:43] Let me be prospective. [00:21:44] Could you be proud of a not guilty verdict? [00:21:47] The same way you would as a guilty verdict. [00:21:48] Yeah. [00:21:49] Because you're asking to do it, you're a jury. [00:21:51] Mr. Johnson, do you realize this is the most important job of your life? [00:21:54] There is no review. [00:21:56] You can go to a restaurant and go, what did you think of our waiter? [00:21:58] I'll give him five stars in Yelp. [00:22:00] There's nothing. [00:22:02] This appraisal, this vote of yours, this is a man's life. [00:22:06] This is the most important vote you will ever have in your lifetime. [00:22:11] And they're dumping it all in your lap. [00:22:13] Did you know that? [00:22:15] And they're going to be asking you to find somebody guilty when there's no evidence. [00:22:20] And then they're going to say, well, you go ahead. [00:22:23] He doesn't have the guts to do that. [00:22:25] Nobody's going to want to say they found Tyler Robinson not guilty. [00:22:30] Come on. [00:22:32] Well, Mr. Johnson, do you? [00:22:35] Are you willing to look the state and say, no, better luck next time? [00:22:39] What did you give me? [00:22:40] You didn't give me anything. [00:22:43] I did. [00:22:43] I'm not a detective. [00:22:44] I didn't put, i'm not telling you anything about I like these people or don't like these people. [00:22:50] You're in a, you're in a you're you're, you're a doctor you're, you're a physician, you're a pathologist and you're looking at an x-ray and you're saying, it's not broken. [00:23:02] What do you mean? [00:23:03] It's not broken? [00:23:06] What do you mean? [00:23:06] He's not broken? [00:23:07] It's not broken. [00:23:08] Look here, it is. [00:23:09] Yeah, but he, I can't walk. [00:23:10] I don't care whether he can walk or not, he's not broken. [00:23:13] He's screaming, he's been in bed. [00:23:15] I don't care Who he is, I'm telling you, based upon this, this person in this x-ray is not broken. [00:23:27] That's what your job is. [00:23:30] Imagine if I were to give you the results of a home pregnancy test. [00:23:33] And why you want to find out whether your home is pregnant, I have no idea. [00:23:35] But I give you the sample, and you drop the thing, and you're like, no. [00:23:42] Not pregnant. [00:23:43] Clear, whatever the particular phrase is. [00:23:47] Somebody says, whoa, Do you know who this person is? [00:23:52] Yeah. [00:23:53] Look at her. [00:23:55] She may look pregnant, but this sample here, it's not pregnant. [00:23:59] Wait, wait, wait. [00:24:01] Do you know who this person is? [00:24:03] This person is one of these OnlyFans who try to break records with being with men. [00:24:10] Do you understand this? [00:24:11] I don't care who she is, Mother Teresa. [00:24:13] It doesn't matter. [00:24:14] That's what you do. [00:24:15] You don't know anything about the background story. [00:24:17] You don't know who these people are, why they're there. [00:24:19] You're just asking a simple question. [00:24:21] You didn't prove it. [00:24:22] This is not pregnant. [00:24:24] This is not broken and he's not guilty. [00:24:27] That's it. [00:24:28] Maybe in a different case, maybe if there had been a bullet, maybe if there had been a conviction, maybe if one person said, Hey, is that Tyler Robinson? [00:24:37] He's shooting a gun. [00:24:38] That's Tyler Robinson. [00:24:40] But he's running. [00:24:42] Somebody tackled him. [00:24:43] Hey, Tyler, did you do it? [00:24:44] I did it. [00:24:45] I did it. [00:24:46] He still got the gun. [00:24:47] I can smell it. [00:24:49] By the way, speaking of smelling, the dogs couldn't find that rifle that was deposited there. [00:24:54] And the reason why is because they didn't fire anything. [00:24:57] Maybe if that happened, you'd say, oh, give me the verdict of guilty. [00:25:01] But that didn't happen. [00:25:04] Maybe if you walked into a police station and said, I did it. [00:25:07] I did it. [00:25:08] I killed. [00:25:09] I shot Charlie. [00:25:10] I did it. [00:25:11] Hang on a minute. [00:25:12] Check his hands out. [00:25:13] Oh, my God. [00:25:14] Look at this. [00:25:15] You know, the GSR, the gunshot residue, it's all over him. [00:25:19] He smells the smell of the rifle. [00:25:21] It's in his hair. [00:25:22] It's in his cheek. [00:25:23] My God. [00:25:24] That would have been great. === Gunshot Residue Mystery (00:55) === [00:25:25] That's not what you gave me. [00:25:28] You got this guy walking around going to Dairy Queen. [00:25:35] I don't care about whether he's gay or his girlfriend or Lance or Luna or Junebug or whatever that nickname is. [00:25:43] I don't care about that. [00:25:45] You gave me garbage. [00:25:47] You gave me garbage. [00:25:50] Don't you understand that? [00:25:52] Don't you understand how this works? [00:25:55] And I'm proud of my verdict. [00:25:56] I'm proud of it. [00:25:58] That's what I want people to say. [00:26:00] And when that happens, Erica is going to lose her mind. [00:26:08] Do you understand what I'm saying? [00:26:09] She's going to lose her mind. [00:26:17] And you and I are going to be there, and we're going to say, I told you so.