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Feb. 10, 2026 - Lionel Nation
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HALFTIME Lies & The TPUSA Scam

HALFTIME Lies & The TPUSA Scam exposes Turning Point USA’s 6.1M viewer claim as inflated, comparing it to dubious metrics like Nielsen, while Candace Owens’ blunt critiques clash with performative activism. The group’s focus on viral moments—like the Nancy Guthrie case—distracts from urgent issues: missing children tied to Epstein and Section 235’s Capitol Hill threats. Leadership, including Erica and Owens, is accused of prioritizing spectacle over substance, urging a shift to serious adults like Lynn Shaw’s Warriors. If conservative media keeps enabling this charade, it risks becoming irrelevant, overshadowed by actual crises. [Automatically generated summary]

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Anger And Ironic Rituals 00:07:23
Good evening, dear friends, and welcome to this hour.
We've been doing a couple of these in a row, and I kind of like it.
Nine o'clock.
It's a nice time.
People are kind of like done with the day.
It's not too late on the East Coast and on the West Coast.
Well, you can do the math.
First of all, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Let me talk to you about a subject, which I think is just fantastic and how it inspires anger and ire no matter what happens.
The issue was regarding the TPUSA kind of a protest concomitant battle of the halftime shows.
And Candace is just brutal.
I mean, I love it because of her sense of, well, frankly, brutality.
Now, in full disclosure, I couldn't care less about any of these folks.
any of these folks, Kid Rock, any of them.
It's not my, no offense.
I couldn't tell you anything about him.
I know he wrote some song that was supposedly about underage girls.
You know, I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
I understand the method.
I understand the meaning.
I understand why it was critical because it was a direct counter to this bad bunny nonsense, which that I saw.
I absolutely could not believe.
I didn't even know what it was.
Don't even know, couldn't tell you what it was.
Couldn't.
And I caught Candace today.
By the way, I don't put her show up.
And then I, I mean, I'll refer to it if she makes a good point, but these people who put her show up and basically sit back and use all her work and say, well, see, she's saying this now.
But she was a little bit, I think, kind of kind to this bad bunny, who I think is a degenerate.
It's the most stupid thing I've ever seen.
This is anti-American, un-American.
By the way, he's Puerto Rican.
Last time I checked, he's kind of American.
And I don't lose any sleep over it one way or the other, but it was stupid.
But she was talking about, oh, it was great.
It showed the, you know, the cities and the, you know, playing dominoes and that.
Like, what are you talking about?
It was stupid.
The whole thing is stupid.
Look, the last time I saw one, I like to watch the stones or maybe, I don't know.
It's my generation.
But this to me is just utter crap.
It's not even music.
It's not even, there's no sonority to it.
I'm the wrong person to ask.
And I just, I find this counter programming interesting.
It's symbolic.
That's good.
Of course, you know, it was not live.
How could it be live?
Somebody said, well, how could it be live when they didn't know?
They could basically know roughly when the halftime was and they could have, they could have, you know, started it or whatever.
I don't care.
But I wrote on, I wrote on X, I said, you know, that this wasn't live and it was in Atlanta.
And these people, some people said, there you go, you show your bias again.
What do you know?
Of course, I said, I didn't say anything.
I'm saying it wasn't.
It was recorded and then played.
I meant nothing by it.
But there's this anger there.
There's just this anger, which I find absolutely.
Look, the counter programming is cute.
I would have loved to have taken all that money and all of that work and all of that effort and all of that those vectors of energy and put it to something that matters, like maybe Christian education or scholarships or maybe, oh, I don't know, finding out where Charlie's buried or having a funeral or maybe putting it to perhaps maybe fund an investigator to find out who really assassinated him.
Other than that, but as you know, people went, they go berserk over this because there is this incredible fight that is going on right now.
And people are starting to smell the funk when it comes to this notion of TPUSA.
And as long, remember, if Erica is a part of it, as I'm telling you.
So Super Bowl, of course, we talked about it last night.
It was a big deal to most people.
To me, it's really unimportant.
It's bread and circuses.
You know how that is.
And we know all about that.
But it was nice.
It was okay, sort of, you know, whatever.
But the issue that we wanted to talk about was this TPUSA counterprogramming.
And it was about stopping the ritual to allow a new ritual.
And football, the commercials, the halftime, you know, then the Monday morning sermon where everybody is ordered to, you know, to pick a side and perform outrage.
I don't care about that.
Okay.
It's ridiculous.
And I thought today was just terrific.
I'll tell you, I think Candace has been spot on.
She has been better than ever, and she is just incurring the wrath.
She owns the argument.
She owns it.
Not TPUSA, not Erica, she does.
It's brilliant.
It's brilliant.
So you've got to figure out, are you on Team Bad Bunny or Team Turning Point or Team whatever you were told that your tribe is supposed to be?
Is that what she said?
It was very interesting.
And if you don't clap and bark like a seal on queue, on queue, and then somebody online decides that you either hate America, hate Christian, hate Christianity, hate, hate Jesus, hate, hate Judaism, whatever it is.
They will tell you what you mean.
They will tell you specifically what you stand for.
And it is exhausting, absolutely exhausting to figure out who's playing what.
It's also very, very revealing.
But what's interesting, which she brought up, which I loved, the part that nobody really wants to admit, and most of this, as we just discussed before, it's not about culture.
Somebody thinks about itself branding.
And branding is not, as you know, it's truth.
Branding is not integrity.
Branding is not verity.
Branding, you're a fine girl.
What a good wife you would be.
I think looking glass are the best.
But branding is a, is a, it's kind of a, somebody suggested it was a mood board with a budget.
It's a, it's a costume change with a press release.
It's, it's performative.
It's kabooky.
It's not real.
This was symbology back and forth.
And it's a set of numbers that may or may not mean what they claim to mean.
And that's what's interesting, conveniently framed to tell a story because we live in a world of metrics.
And what was the story today?
And what did the cable news show show dutifully?
What did they say?
6 Million Viewers Woke Up 00:02:09
They said, oh, absolutely.
It was, it was, it was incredible.
The TPUSA counter programming.
6 million.
Okay.
This is where people are saying, no, wait a minute.
Hold it.
Be careful with this.
Why?
Because there are people who really know how to work the numbers, and there are people who really know how this thing works.
Now, I'm going to say something, and other people are going to say something that may irritate the professional folks who are the haters and the like.
And I think it goes without saying, but I'm not one of the people who wants to complain, tune in solely about the halftime show.
You know, look, some people, some people watch it.
For years before, in my generation, I remember the first Super Bowl when it was the AFC NFC and how it got its name from Lamar Hunt, whose grandson or granddaughter had a super ball.
Remember that kids from the 60s?
Remember WAMO?
Remember the Super Bowl?
You would hit it down, it would go straight up, and it was like a hard rubber.
And that's that was the name.
And okay, you know, the Icy Tundra, Lambo Field, Nitschke, the dolphins.
It's always been something.
And then later on, later on, of course, as we know, the whole notion of commercials and musical groups later on, but it was the commercials.
Remember the first time we saw the famous Apple commercial that we didn't understand what Apple we didn't know what it was.
Like, what is this?
Whitney Houston, who, by the way, did a lip-sync from Tampa, others as well.
So it was a part of the halftime show became something you really watched.
And it had entertainment that was without a doubt entertainment.
Today it's becoming woke.
I hate to use the word.
It's woke as DEI.
It's Schmaltz.
It's radical left.
You know what it is.
There's no way around it.
But some people watch it, you know.
It's okay.
Official Halftime Show Dominance 00:13:29
So it's their annual chance to, they say, you know, like audition for their uncle, their grand grumpy, what was it?
Somebody said a grumpy uncle role, or, you know, or everything is satanic, or everything is propaganda, or everything is, you know, the collapse of Rome and society and civilization and, you know, pasta bean divinity.
Hey, whatever it is.
I'm not even there.
It means nothing to me one way or the other.
I never saw a second of TP USA.
Never saw it.
Couldn't tell you.
I don't think I've ever seen Kid Rock ever perform.
I don't know.
I don't know what he does.
It's not a statement against him.
It's just not my cup of tea.
That's not what's important.
I want to see what everybody else said.
Because people are trying to say, well, and Candice said it to an extent.
She says, you know, I appreciate performance.
You know, I can appreciate choreography.
And she said, I can appreciate the production.
I can even appreciate, you know, a vibe like she described.
It wasn't, you know, my vibe.
And, you know, she's not allergic to culture.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what people try to say.
Okay, you know, where you have to be gratuitously understanding.
You can say, it sucks.
It sucks.
It was stupid.
It was ridiculous.
It was lame.
You can say it if you want.
I wanted to see how much it would be, how bad it would be.
Because that tells me where Roger Goodell is and where the NFL goes.
So when Bad Bunny took the stage, by the way, his stuff was filthy in Spanish.
I don't know how they allow it, but when he took the stage, people watched it as a performance, first of all, just to see, you know, what was this with the football in his hand and the glove.
And what is this?
It was stupid.
It was trying their best to throw everything they had from the prop closet.
Everything.
Plants, people with straw hats playing guitar.
It the set people said was ambitious.
People thought it was cohesive, maybe clearly designed to feel like a world.
Candace even liked it.
She said the choreography was tight.
The visuals did what a yeah, yeah.
The visuals did what is supposed to be done, creating a spectacle big enough to fill the stadium and still read on the screen.
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
People can argue about taste all day long.
It doesn't matter.
I just wanted to know what the message would be.
What was the, yeah, right.
She was watching something, but it was stupid.
But here's the issue.
And it's not a moral panic.
It's a very practical one.
Because language matters for emotional connection.
You all know this.
A halftime show is not a TED talk, you know, but lyrics, you know, still carry the human hook and all that stuff.
And she's a very good job.
You know, if you're not a Spanish speaker, which most people aren't, you're watching a performance you could admire without fully feeling it and hoping to God they're not being filthy.
That's not an insult to Spanish people or anything.
It's an observation.
It's an observation about mass audience events in the country where the common language is English.
It's the official language.
And where the halftime show is, I guess, marketed as, I don't know what, some kind of what, shared national moment, I guess.
It was horrible.
It was horrible.
And if you want to complain about that, that's fine.
Nobody really cares.
The Target is not the performer.
Bad Bunny didn't book himself.
That was Jay-Z.
The NFL's halftime show selection process runs through Jay-Z, the league's partnership with Jay-Z's Rock Nation.
And by turning it over to him, and it's clearly, they want to know which side their bread is buttered.
Okay.
The league wanted some kind of a, I guess, statement, and it got one.
But the real question is why the NFL keeps insisting that halftime shows must always double as some kind of a cultural lecture.
You know what I mean?
Instead of simply being the biggest mainstream party in America.
That's it.
For 15 minutes, and that's it.
Okay, fine.
But here, here is the part.
Here is the part that will annoy the professional countrarians on the right.
Whatever you think of the language barrier, the official halftime show still dominated attention, which I think maybe that was the point of it.
Early reporting put Super Bowl viewership around maybe around 128 million range.
And that's always difficult because you also have afterwards, you have post, there's live TV, but then there's, you know, internet and different platforms.
The halftime show itself, they said around 135 million, which is the whole point of the halftime show.
Very simply was to pull in extra eyeballs who don't even care about the game.
You got that one?
That makes sense.
Okay.
So what did TP USA do?
What did Turning Point USA do?
They decided the solution to the NFL's culture or culture signaling, I guess, was to build a competing culture signal.
An alternative halftime show branded as all-American, a counter-programming to this, whatever this thing is.
A parallel broadcast, a political halftime.
And in theory, it sounds bold, but in practice, it reveals something.
It reveals something different.
The conservative movement is getting trapped in reaction instead of creation.
They, we, whatever you want to call it, are so busy rebutting what the left is doing that the right forgets to make something that can stand on its own without a sneer, without counter programming.
What does it stand for?
It's always, well, we're not that.
Just like TDS hates Trump.
There are people whose political ideology is that they hate Trump.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
They hate Trump.
They hate Trump.
That's what their thing is about.
Some people on the right, their whole thing is we're not the left.
Now, you want to be, try to be fair at performers.
This is not a critique of the musicianship, but I thought it sucked.
That's just me.
I'm not talking about this.
This is about the organization staging the event.
This is about framing the event and the numbers and who saw it and then selling the event with claims that invite scrutiny, evaluation.
And there's one particular key detail that changes the whole conversation.
TPUSA's show was pre-recorded.
It was not live in the way the NFL show was.
And some people can say, well, how could it be?
How could it be live?
How could you have a live show?
They don't know when it's going to be.
They don't know when.
You'd be surprised how you could pretty much narrow that thing down.
If it's scheduled to go, scheduled to start, the idea of counter-programming at the time, they could have been live, but they don't have to be.
People say there's no way it could have been live.
It could have been.
It's not necessary.
It wasn't live in the way the NFL show was live, but it was produced in advance and then streamed during halftime, which is fine.
No problem.
I hope you liked it.
If you do, you're entitled to that 100%.
That matters because when something is, it's actually recorded versus pre-recorded.
Whenever something's pre-recorded, you can polish it, you can tighten it, you can sweeten it, you can present it with fewer risks, you can kind of get rid of the rough edges.
Live performance is a different animal altogether, as you know.
Live performance is dangerous.
It's deadly.
It's where you either deliver or you don't.
And I guess they delivered something.
It went off without a hitch, if that's what their intention was.
TPUSA touted big numbers, a peak around, did you hear this?
6.1 million concurrent viewers.
6.1 million concurrent viewers has been widely reported for the stream.
Did you see that?
did you buy that did you buy it did you did you buy it 6.1 million Did you?
And yes, that is a very, very large number for a political organization, if you think about it, doing an alternative halftime show online during the biggest television event maybe of the year.
And if they had simply said that, it would have been a win, a real one.
It would have been a credible brag, some would say.
It would have been a foundation, okay?
But the fight sort of erupted because of how the numbers, this is what Candace brought up, a very good point, of how the numbers were framed and how they were interpreted and how quickly the story sort of maybe kind of turned into a victory lap that felt perhaps a little too eager.
Candace pounced on that instinct because this is very good because she understands, you can understand something very, very simple.
And she certainly knows the numbers.
You can be conservative and still demand honesty, honesty from your own side.
And I think that's what I think most people do.
You can be on the same team and still refuse to pretend that two plus two is 12.
So what she did was she criticized the viewership claims.
And this is what drove them nuts.
She criticized the viewership claims and the way they were being presented, arguing the math didn't exactly line up with what experienced digital creators expect to see when a stream truly reaches the claimed live audience.
And the deeper point was not just about a number.
It was something else, she alleges.
Something that it was, but it dealt with the credibility as a habit.
See, you can't spend years telling your audience, you know, that the legacy media manipulates and contorts and distorts numbers and plays and massages and manipulates narratives and manipulates and creates impressions.
See, then you turn around and treat the audience like a bunch of gullible, stupid consumers who will accept any metric, any number, as long as the branding is patriotic.
See, this is the problem.
This is the problem.
This may be harder for some folks on the right to understand, but you're patronizing the notion of patriotism, God, counter, whatever it is.
Many would say, I disagree, and you're entitled to do that.
This is why Candace's critique landed.
See, people are tired.
And they're not tired of politics.
They're not tired of values by any stretch of the imagination, but they're tired of grift coded as activism.
And they're tired of being told to buy a shirt, share a clip, join the membership, you know, attend a gala and applaud a claim, applaud a claim that doesn't pass the simplest smell test.
This is what happened precisely right after Charlie died.
Remember that?
Right after he died.
The first thing she was doing was basically, that's TPUSA.com.
That's TPUSA.
Get the merch up.
She remembers this.
It was weird.
People are tired of having their emotions framed, you know, like a crop, like some kind of a production unit.
And here's the thing.
When the right mimics the worst habits of the left, it, well, it doesn't become more effective by any stretch of the imagination.
It becomes more pathetic.
And the left has plenty of professional narrators.
Absolutely.
And if conservatism or whatever this is wants to win long term, it has to offer something different, really different, something grounded, something real, something tangible, not bells and whistles and balloons and fireworks and Erica, something that doesn't need a fog machine of statistics.
That's what we're saying.
Substance Over Spectacle 00:15:10
And the numbers.
Now, about those numbers, they're really something.
There's a reason these debates get confusing.
And there's a good reason.
Nielsen ratings and YouTube views are different languages altogether.
Nielsen uses average minute audience.
YouTube counts a view after a short watch, like a short wash threshold, and platform reporting updates over time.
It's a different means of calibrating and calculating numbers.
People can compare apples and oranges on purpose or by accident.
So I don't know if you can compare the two.
That's exactly why a very serious organization or one that purports to be serious should speak very carefully and publish clear definitions and avoid the temptation to inflate numbers and stats and metrics by stacking platforms and stacking partner feeds and replays and clips and calling it one big triumphant number.
It doesn't work like that.
And if you want to claim a record, which is fine, I know people, people are, by the way, in law and contract law, for example, there's something called puffery, where you can embellish a little bit.
You can say, our pizza is the best, the best pizza in New York City.
You've tried the rest.
Now try the best.
We have the best, the best.
That's puffery.
It's not an endorsement.
It's not a guarantee.
It's not a warranty.
It's an exaggeration.
It's a bit of an embellishment that we allow you to do.
It's not a warranty.
And if you want to claim a record, you have to act like adults.
Provide the receipts.
Provide platform screenshots.
Provide a time-stamped peak.
Prove it.
Because there's a lot of us out there who know how to read these numbers.
Provide a methodology.
This is basic.
Instead, and by the way, you can imagine the cable news shows that never questioned this at all because that, you know, Kid Rock, this was about Trump, U.S., it was a counter to that son of a big, fat, stupid, bad bunny.
And we've got to win.
And don't worry about numbers, whatever.
But instead, what we got was the familiar kind of modern impulse.
Declare victory first and then dare anyone to question it.
That's what they do all the time.
They do it all the time.
It's like, how don't you dare?
And when somebody like Candice questions it, they treat her like some kind of, again, like a traitor, like a heretic, like she's hurting the cause.
No, she's helping the cause.
Because here's the story.
The cause is not your brand.
The cause is truth.
The cause is credibility.
And the cause is not making conservatives look like easy marks.
I guess I'm kind of like a carnival where you're selling hats and buttons and bells and whistles.
It's not a branding.
It's not a commodity.
This is serious business.
I know you watching right now, you absolutely, positively take this exceedingly seriously.
This is not a joke to you.
This isn't some fad.
This is about America and God and religion and Jesus and Christianity or whatever it is.
You're very serious about that.
And you don't want to be played for a fool.
And you don't want people to come in and use that, use that alleged affiliation to be used commercially to up their numbers and to raise money.
Ask yourself this.
What does TPUSA do?
What do they do?
What do they do?
Was that it?
What good did that do?
I would imagine everybody worked for free.
I would imagine.
I don't know.
And let's be honest, shall we?
The alternative halftime show is a perfect metaphor for the state of political media right now.
See, on one side, you've got the NFL.
It sells the biggest stage in American sports as a pop culture megaphone.
Absolutely.
On the other side, you've got a political organization selling a counter stage, a rebuttal stage, as moral resistance that counter, you know, the contrarian movement.
And both sides are asking you to perform.
Both sides are asking you to pick a side.
Both sides are asking you to treat entertainment as some kind of a referendum on your identity.
And they're using this right now.
They're using this guy right now, even though he's Puerto Rican and he's claiming with all this ICE business and this notion about foreign illegals and the like.
They know exactly what they're doing, precisely what they're doing.
This wasn't an accident.
This wasn't Jay-Z on his own.
They told Jay-Z what to do.
There's a reason for this.
And at some point during all of this, you have to ask yourself a question.
What exactly are we doing here, America?
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
Because the real scandal that we're talking about here is not Spanish lyrics.
The real scandal is that we've allowed our politics and our theories to become kind of a lifestyle subscription or something.
We don't argue policy anymore.
We don't worldview politics, treaties, plans, methodologies, history.
We argue vibes and feelings.
We don't debate evidence.
We don't debate fact.
We debate who's allowed to question the narrative.
That's what this is about.
I think it's somebody like Piers Morgan who comes along and just destroys it to the most elemental of levels.
It's about good just to get anybody to scream.
All he wants people to do is scream on a show.
And by the way, we don't build persuasive cases anymore.
We're not interested in that.
We're not interested in trying to proselytize in a good way or recruit.
We build these viral moments and then fight over analytics.
Come on.
Did you see some of these numbers?
Did you see this?
Did you watch Candace tonight?
According to TPUSA, they got numbers that rivaled Brazilian soccer.
I don't think so.
You know, her criticism of TPUSA is not just a shot across the bow.
It's a warning shot or flare, if you will.
If conservatives want to be the grown-ups in their room, if that's supposedly what you, I, we are about, then they need to stop acting like the same media they claim to oppose.
This is childish.
This is rebrandative.
This is a riposte.
Stop inflating and spinning.
Stop treating the bass like some kind of a captive audience.
It's insulting to you.
It's insulting.
We're basically taking your thoughts, your ideas, your worldview, your political acumen, your political can, your range, and you're reducing it to Kid Rock versus Bad Bunny.
I hope you see what I'm saying.
I hope you do, because I'm right.
And TPUSA, if it wants to be taken seriously, should welcome scrutiny, of course.
And that includes internal scrutiny.
You know how that goes.
Ask some of these folks.
You'll get a letter, especially internal scrutiny.
See, if your project is real, questions won't kill it.
Skepticism won't kill it.
If your project is fragile, questions are going to expose that fragility.
And that's useful information.
What does TPUSA stand for?
What are they all about?
And here's the part that I think people are missing, with all due respect.
It was completely and totally possible for last night to be a win for everybody on the right, whatever that is.
The NFL halftime show could be critiqued on language and vibe and message without personal hysteria.
TPUSA could have offered an alternative that felt joyful and confident and uplifting without the sanctimony, without the moral blackmail, without the hint that if you do not love it, you're defective.
If you don't, you've got to love TPUSA.
This is its own policy, its own politics.
You better love it and now.
If not, you're defective.
And then they could have posted honest numbers and said, look for, you know, for a first run, this is impressive.
But you knew they weren't going to, you, you knew they weren't going to blow this away.
The numbers are ridiculous.
And by the way, did they bot it?
Did they use bots?
Did they fudge the records?
We don't know.
A lot of people are saying absolutely.
But the movement has developed a bad habit.
It confuses marketing with reality.
And it further confuses reach with trust.
Look, it makes a big mistake confusing impressions with loyalty and money with legitimacy.
You listen to her.
Listen to Erica.
It's about money.
It's about numbers.
That getting, hey, guys, the merch sales are up.
We're doing great.
Sponsors, donors, we're raking it in.
We must be right.
We must be correct.
Billy Graham never did that.
Billy Graham was still the biggest thing anybody's ever seen.
Candace Owens is calling that up because she knows how quickly a movement becomes almost a parody of itself when it starts believing its own press releases.
And that's what we're doing right now.
What is it about?
Look, I'll be the first one to say that was good to see.
You would hope that Kid Rock or somebody would counter that, would blow the numbers, but it didn't.
I don't even know what the, look, you can look for yourself.
Some of the numbers that were suggested were just off the charts.
Candace, look at the numbers.
Soccer, football, international.
Those are the numbers that rivaled it.
And some people think that you can tweak numbers this week.
See, metrics create, not only can you shadow ban somebody, not only can you kill somebody in terms of their numbers, you can also boost them artificially to give you the impression there's something valid about them.
So here's the take.
The halftime war is a distraction, but it's also a mirror.
And the NFL is going to keep selling this weird leftist culture.
And TPUSA is going to keep selling counterculture or counter-left culture.
And the only question for you is ask yourself whether conservatives, whether you, if that's what you call yourself, are going to demand honesty and discipline and competence from their own side, or whether you're going to keep applauding anything wrapped up in a flag.
It demeans the cause, just like people with all these lapel pins or their flags.
That's not what America's about.
And by the way, Candace isn't wrong to oppress the numbers.
She's not wrong to mock the performative certainty of this.
She's not wrong in the least to treat credibility like the one thing, the one thing you can't buy.
That's why she's getting stronger and better and people love her because she's right.
Because if the right or the conservatives, if they lose that, if it becomes just another kind of glossy machine that manipulates and tweaks and massages and creates perception, then it doesn't matter how many halftime shows or halftime streams or halftime numbers you claim.
You've already lost the audience.
You will have already lost the audience that matters most, the people who want the truth.
I keep saying truth, even when it's inconvenient.
That's all.
Humility.
Tell me the truth.
And that's the real battle intensifying right now.
That's it.
Not bad bunny versus kid rocker.
I couldn't tell you the other people.
I don't even know.
Not English versus Spanish.
Not even left versus right.
The real battle, listen to me, the real battle is where is real and authentic versus fake.
We want substance over form, substance over spectacle.
We want trust versus this, to use that orality thing, a spin.
And that's what this is about.
Now, remember something.
I believe it's something bigger than this.
I want us to be absolutely triumphant.
I'm very scared about midterms.
I don't know about you.
Very scared.
Very scared.
I don't like what's going on.
I think the president's doing some things that are being perceived as unforced errors.
I think that he should have been far stronger regarding that Obama ape meme or whatever it was.
That was stupid.
He should have been a little bit quicker to denounce it.
There was no excuse for that.
Whether you argue it, this is what they did to Roseanne.
They don't learn from their mistakes.
We also have something right now, which we have to get so much more powerful regarding Epstein.
Listen to what I'm telling you.
The Epstein matter is sicker than anything you have seen or could ever imagine.
It's sicker than anything you have ever seen or could possibly imagine.
I'm not just saying that.
He has got to own this and do something.
They were reluctant and recalcitrant.
Pam Bondi, and remember all those people, all those influencers who stood with their binders.
Remember this?
Remember that they had their binders?
Remember these guys?
Remember the ones who stood there the day at the White House?
Hey, look at this, holding them up.
Where are they now?
I always think people are paid off, absolutely positively.
When you have a block of people all of a sudden shutting up, you know, come on.
Let's stop pretending.
People are paid.
People are bought off for their loyalty and their voice.
I told you what they did to Moby in 2016 or 2018.
They did this before.
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So the bottom line is this.
Candice is 100% correct.
Did that counter thing mean anything?
No, no, no, it wasn't necessary.
If you're not going to crush the Super Bowl, why are you doing it?
And do you mean to tell me that we've always got to go to the well as a kid rock?
Seriously, is that it?
He's turning into our Lawrence Welk or our Johnny Mann singers or, you know, Mitch Miller.
It's becoming a joke.
There's nothing clever about it.
It's not cool.
You're not going to pull people in with Chris Rock.
He's only, I mean, Chris Rock, Kid Rock, or Chris Rock.
He's been around forever.
With all due respect.
Is that what you really want to do?
Where are the people?
Where's the money?
Where are the apostles, the disciples going out there, the missionaries to spread the good word, to spread the holy word of the holy book, of the good word, of conservatism or Americanism, whatever it is.
That's what I'm going to see.
This has got to stop.
You've got a bunch of children.
You've got this Colvet and others who are really creepy.
And all they care about is the bottom line.
They want flash and glitz and glamour.
And as soon as they realize they've got to change this, go back to what it was.
They have yet to do anything since September the 10th.
September the 10th.
Think about this.
We're getting into our fifth month since Charlie.
Remember this.
What have they done?
What have they done?
Where?
What?
We're talking about nonsense.
They're talking either about Erica, about how she's handling it, how strong she's doing, about how much money they're raising.
But what about the mission?
They don't even realize it.
They're so tone deaf.
They're making so much money.
They're blinded by this.
Blinded.
And that means it's time for them either.
She has got to leave.
She's got to step down, move away.
She's drawing so much fire and she is diverting attention that should be going to the organization and Charlie's cause.
And number two, they need a complete and total board.
They need men and women.
They need adults.
Not a bunch of cool kids trying to raise money, trying to give you this glossy, step-fruity-y, kind of weird, almost like automaton robot voice.
And we've got to also have a bunch of these, these conservative cable stations stop playing, stop doing the dirty work, stop doing the heavy lifting for these people.
Let me tell you something.
Remember what I'm telling you?
And I will leave you with this.
Midterms.
Midterms.
So my friends, I thank you.
And one more thing.
This creepy, strange, I don't know what this is.
By the way, listen tonight on WABC overnights.
This Nancy Guthrie case is so bizarre.
Where are the people arguing and clapping for and supporting and worrying and praying for kids that are missing every single day in this country?
The unaccompanied kids who came into work who got sucked up into these Epstein-like whirlpools.
Why are we wasting so much time over this weird story about this weird Savannah Guthrie?
It's a very sad case involving her mother.
This case doesn't make any sense.
She has a press conference saying nothing's changed.
The FBI, and again, I don't know who's more bumbling, the Pima County Sheriffs or the FBI.
This is weird.
It is the strangest case ever.
Have you ever heard of multiple deadlines?
Multiple deadlines?
Our first deadline is passed.
Wait a minute.
If it's a deadline, we have another deadline.
Nothing makes sense.
Epstein, that, this, Erica, where's Charlie?
Anybody know where is Charlie buried?
Where are Charlie's parents?
Where is he?
Where?
When are they going to actually have a campus ministry?
When are they going to do something again?
When is somebody going to tell Erica, it's time to go?
Take your quarter of a bill and get out of here.
You're killing it.
You just, you have sucked the life out of this thing.
You've redirected everything towards you.
Candace Owens is 100% correct.
So I thank you, my friends.
Thank you so much for being a part of us.
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You can't believe what is going on in this country that for some reason doesn't get the same attention that Epstein does.
It should.
That's the thing I don't understand.
So thank you for that.
And you have a great and a glorious day.
And thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for your kind words and your attention to this incredible cause.
See you tomorrow, my friends.
Don't forget, monkey's dead.
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