Lionel Nation - Lia Thomas Was Never a Woman — The Truth the Media Still Won’t Say
Aired: 2025-07-02
Duration: 25:12


=== Anybody Know? (14:52) ===

[00:03:34]  was how do you know Regit Macron was not a woman and I did not even plan on this but we'll get into this because tonight's subject is going to be Leah Thomas How do you know this?
[00:03:46]  Anybody?
[00:03:47]  Get ready.
[00:03:48]  They won't be able to tell you.
[00:03:50]  First, people will not write enough words to explain to you why they're of the opinion.
[00:03:56]  Number two, people love the idea of this.
[00:04:00]  There's something about it which is kind of fun because we basically love whenever there's, I don't know what the word, we love when there's a, you know, we just love controversy.
[00:04:20]  And we don't know why we say what we do.
[00:04:23]  We just kind of believe it sort of, but we really don't know.
[00:04:27]  So my question to you is, how do you know what you know?
[00:04:30]  And let's see.
[00:04:32]  I'll just wait.
[00:04:33]  Anybody who says this, answer my question.
[00:04:36]  Anybody?
[00:04:37]  Anybody?
[00:04:39]  I'm looking for one thing right now, which is a pain in the neck.
[00:04:43]  How do you know what you know?
[00:04:45]  Go ahead, I'm waiting.
[00:04:46]  Anybody?
[00:04:48]  Anybody want to weigh in?
[00:04:50]  Anybody?
[00:04:52]  Diffusion is the word you're looking for.
[00:04:55]  Diffusion?
[00:04:57]  Common sense, S-E-N-C-E?
[00:05:00]  Her past is questionable?
[00:05:02]  Why is it common sense?
[00:05:04]  See, nobody will tell you.
[00:05:05]  This is the most important.
[00:05:06]  Imagine you're doing closing arguments and you're saying, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to find that we have proved beyond a reasonable doubt why we believe this.
[00:05:19]  And you will not hear anything.
[00:05:21]  Nothing.
[00:05:26]  Nobody explains anything.
[00:05:29]  Absolutely nothing.
[00:05:30]  I'm still waiting.
[00:05:31]  I'm still waiting to hear why this is so.
[00:05:34]  Why this is the case.
[00:05:38]  Anybody?
[00:05:40]  I want to hear.
[00:05:41]  Tell me why.
[00:05:42]  No, no, I'm serious.
[00:05:44]  Because you're not, this is, here's the question.
[00:05:46]  Tell me why.
[00:05:47]  You're standing before a jury, and I want you to find her not guilty, or excuse me, or not guilty of being a woman and guilty of being a man.
[00:05:55]  I want you to tell me this.
[00:05:57]  Tell me, tell me, tell me.
[00:06:00]  And what would you say?
[00:06:01]  Forgive me as I pour through this.
[00:06:03]  This is very rude, but I had to do this one.
[00:06:06]  Okay?
[00:06:06]  Anybody?
[00:06:13]  Nothing.
[00:06:13]  This is such a great...
[00:06:18]  Don't know what that means?
[00:06:20]  Again, this has been my theme lately.
[00:06:24]  If you read any of the conversations that we have, nobody says anything.
[00:06:28]  It's like they want to say something.
[00:06:34]  It's like they're coming out of a coma or something, and they want very much to convey some type of idea, but they really don't know what to say.
[00:06:44]  They can't speak.
[00:06:45]  They can't put it into words.
[00:06:48]  Like their right or left hemispheres have been completely distorted, and they can't speak.
[00:06:54]  They don't know what to say.
[00:06:56]  They don't know what to say.
[00:06:57]  They are without the ability to speak.
[00:06:59]  And you will hear absolutely nothing.
[00:07:01]  Because we love this kind of, well, we kind of know that.
[00:07:04]  It's just like Barack Obama, you know, you will say, was not born in this country, right?
[00:07:10]  Of course.
[00:07:11]  Of course, that's what you say.
[00:07:12]  You will say Barack Obama was not born in this country.
[00:07:16]  And you won't be able to say why exactly.
[00:07:19]  Because you kind of have a, kind of like there's a generic feeling for this.
[00:07:24]  Now, let me see.
[00:07:26]  It has been proven with the DNA test.
[00:07:28]  It has to be proven with the DNA test.
[00:07:31]  It has to be either XS or XY.
[00:07:33]  Really XXY.
[00:07:34]  Yes, XXY is Kleinfelder's in the line.
[00:07:37]  Anybody?
[00:07:39]  Somebody writes, Deb E, hermaphrodite.
[00:07:42]  What does that mean, Deb?
[00:07:45]  It's hard to communicate with text.
[00:07:47]  No, it's not.
[00:07:47]  It's called English.
[00:07:49]  I love to communicate with text.
[00:07:51]  I love to be able to say.
[00:07:56]  It's easy.
[00:07:59]  Nobody, nobody, nobody, how do I say this?
[00:08:04]  This is nothing.
[00:08:06]  This goes to prove how we know so many things that we really don't know about.
[00:08:14]  We don't know.
[00:08:16]  This is so fascinating.
[00:08:17]  Look up my word, okay?
[00:08:20]  L-O-L, hermaphrodite.
[00:08:23]  Why is that funny?
[00:08:24]  L-O-L?
[00:08:25]  Deb, do you think that's funny?
[00:08:30]  I mean, seriously, this is, and I love you, this is inane.
[00:08:35]  I'm with Candace.
[00:08:36]  I believe her.
[00:08:37]  Believe what?
[00:08:39]  What has Candace said?
[00:08:43]  What has Candace Owens proved?
[00:08:45]  What?
[00:08:46]  Tell me.
[00:08:47]  Nothing.
[00:08:48]  You don't know.
[00:08:49]  Well, she did a show one time, and they were going to sue me, and we got some pictures, and there were these pictures where she looked kind of like, looked like a man, I guess.
[00:09:03]  Maybe, sort of.
[00:09:04]  Is that it?
[00:09:08]  OMG, no, you asked the question, so I gave my answer.
[00:09:12]  Deb, that's not an answer.
[00:09:14]  Hermaphrodite, that's not an answer.
[00:09:17]  How do you know, do you believe, you didn't answer anything, you wrote hermaphrodite.
[00:09:21]  This woman, if you read along, that's not, you didn't prove anything.
[00:09:25]  You wrote hermaphrodite.
[00:09:26]  You can also call it pseudo-hermaphrodite.
[00:09:27]  You can put, you can put bicurious.
[00:09:32]  I don't know what that means.
[00:09:34]  What I'm telling you is that you don't know what you know.
[00:09:36]  You kind of know things.
[00:09:38]  You sort of say, well, yeah.
[00:09:41]  Yeah.
[00:09:42]  It's like, how many of you believe that Michelle Obama is a man?
[00:09:47]  And you'll say, Joan Rivers, that's not an accent.
[00:09:53]  We just say things that we think we know.
[00:09:59]  We really don't know.
[00:10:00]  We only see what Ehat Wurge shown.
[00:10:06]  If the claims were bogus, they would be ignored.
[00:10:08]  That's not true at all.
[00:10:10]  Rick Raguso writes, if the claims were bogus, they would be ignored.
[00:10:15]  No, they wouldn't.
[00:10:17]  No, they wouldn't.
[00:10:18]  On the internet ignored?
[00:10:19]  Bogus claims ignored?
[00:10:20]  No, you wouldn't.
[00:10:24]  You see, this is one of the best examples.
[00:10:26]  You really don't know anything about this.
[00:10:29]  Because you're involved in the scrum.
[00:10:31]  You're involved in kind of, and let's be honest, kind of a juvenescent, puerile kind of scrum.
[00:10:41]  This group of people that love to get together and love to just get mean and laugh and point fingers.
[00:10:50]  And it's very easy because you're not, how do I say this?
[00:10:55]  You're not invested in anything.
[00:10:58]  You don't have any skin in the game.
[00:11:00]  It means kind of nothing to you.
[00:11:02]  So consequently, you're just doing whatever it is you're doing.
[00:11:06]  Why?
[00:11:09]  Sean writes, latest on Kate Middleton question mark.
[00:11:14]  Are you asking what's the latest on Kate Middleton?
[00:11:18]  Are you asking if I've heard about the latest of Cape Middleton?
[00:11:23]  Do you want to discuss the latest on Cape Middleton?
[00:11:26]  What does latest on Cape Middleton question mark mean?
[00:11:32]  What does that mean?
[00:11:33]  Do you know something about Cape Middleton?
[00:11:35]  Is there something we should know?
[00:11:39]  Chuck Saraika says, hate to be late, but are you still sticking with your Diddy verdict prediction from Redact the other day?
[00:11:46]  Oh yeah, absolutely.
[00:11:49]  Remember, not guilty, acquittal, or reverse on appeal.
[00:11:54]  Yep.
[00:11:55]  They didn't, they can't even find an answer on the racketeering case.
[00:12:00]  Wow.
[00:12:01]  Not on racketeering?
[00:12:02]  What's their rest?
[00:12:05]  So, I guess Cassie is a prostitute that they brought across straight lines.
[00:12:13]  He did human trafficking.
[00:12:15]  She got $10 million, what, from the hotel.
[00:12:18]  I don't know, 20 or so million from him.
[00:12:20]  This is a sex.
[00:12:22]  Come on, stop it.
[00:12:25]  Jesse Tucker says, he has the body frame of a man.
[00:12:28]  Who?
[00:12:30]  Who?
[00:12:31]  Jesse, who?
[00:12:34]  When you have 50 different sentences and you pop up with, he has the body frame of a man.
[00:12:43]  Who?
[00:12:45]  Again, I don't know.
[00:12:50]  Michael is a man equals Michelle.
[00:12:53]  This isn't it.
[00:12:54]  This is, that doesn't.
[00:12:57]  You don't know any.
[00:12:58]  This is beautiful.
[00:12:59]  Read this.
[00:13:01]  Brigitte, see, this is so perfect.
[00:13:06]  When you write a sentence, write a sentence as though only your sentence we're reading.
[00:13:14]  Write it as though we're only reading that sentence.
[00:13:18]  You've got plenty of room.
[00:13:21]  Throw it in the chat GPT.
[00:13:24]  Write a couple of sentences.
[00:13:25]  Put 30 words, 40 words, whatever the particular limit is.
[00:13:28]  Say it.
[00:13:29]  Spend a little time.
[00:13:31]  And be clear with what you're saying.
[00:13:32]  I don't know what you're saying.
[00:13:34]  I don't know.
[00:13:36]  Brigitte, I could follow it.
[00:13:39]  What happened to Eric Adams, Elon, Dan?
[00:13:43]  Again, this is just, if you love this, this is why it's so good.
[00:13:48]  You don't know anything.
[00:13:50]  Would I be surprised if Brigitte Macron was a man?
[00:13:53]  Of course not.
[00:13:55]  Does she have some kind of, look sort of like it, has that ET kind of look?
[00:14:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:14:05]  Am I ready to go bet on it?
[00:14:09]  No.
[00:14:09]  Have a hunch?
[00:14:11]  Yeah.
[00:14:12]  Let me ask this question.
[00:14:14]  Why does it matter to you?
[00:14:17]  Why does it matter?
[00:14:18]  Simple.
[00:14:19]  Especially in the world of this kind of stuff.
[00:14:24]  Make sure you speak about really simple stuff, low-hanging fruit, things that don't take any involvement, whatever, anything whatsoever.
[00:14:35]  Anything.
[00:14:36]  Make sure you say everything or talk about things that are just like Leah Thomas is perfect.
[00:14:44]  The reason why that's important is she is a man.
[00:14:48]  There's no kidding around.
[00:14:49]  There's a picture before and after with no surgery being done.
[00:14:53]  This is a no-brainer.
[00:14:55]  You don't need Candace Owens to get to the bottom of this one.
[00:14:57]  Okay?
[00:14:58]  You don't need Michelle Obama and all that crazy.
[00:15:00]  This is clearly, this is a man.
[00:15:04]  Clearly a man.
[00:15:05]  And somebody along the way said, let's see if we can put out this fact that she is a whatever.
[00:15:18]  That he is a woman.
[00:15:19]  Ryan says, when confronted with biological realities, I've heard lefties petulantly declare, I don't care whether it's fair, it's exclusionary, and that's all I care about.
[00:15:30]  Well, exclusionary, thank you very much, Ryan.
[00:15:32]  Exclusionary is also a big, big, big is a big deal.
[00:15:42]  And specifically, the reason why it's important, it's critical because eligibility is exclusion.
[00:15:53]  Eligibility is exclusion.
[00:15:58]  By its very nature.
[00:16:00]  Anything, weight class, age, amateur versus professional status, whatever, all of that is exclusionary.
[00:16:18]  So it's also its requirement.
[00:16:21]  ChatGPT always strokes my ego in advance of my questions, answers.
[00:16:26]  And by the way, Fred, you have to add little code words ahead of time to say something to the effect of no intros.
[00:16:35]  You can tell that, here's a rule, chat.
[00:16:37]  Don't say, hey, great question, or here, no.
[00:16:41]  Also, if you're going to be doing any kind of copy and paste, put no bolds, because the bolds will come across as asterisks before it.
[00:16:53]  So the point is we don't know.
[00:16:55]  But the best part is that the president stands for something, because let me tell you something.
[00:17:01]  I am finding out, oh, oh, did you, Chase, not to change the subject, well I guess I am.
[00:17:05]  Did you see Rick Sanchez, who's a friend of mine, a colleague of mine, old colleague, interviewing Max Blumenthal on how basically everybody in Trump's cabinet, including Susie Wiles and others, was a Netanyahu, not plant, but a Netanyahu associate, acolyte, whatever word you want to use.
[00:17:34]  It's one of the most fascinating stories you will ever see.
[00:17:38]  And they have absolutely no clue whatsoever.
[00:17:42]  Barry Weiss is still pulling this.
[00:17:44]  This is the last gasp of this claim of anti-Semitism.
[00:17:49]  Nobody, we're beyond the anti-Semitism thing.
[00:17:53]  Nobody's even talking about that.
[00:17:55]  They don't know what to do.
[00:17:56]  America, America for the first time, is finding itself at the end of its rope regarding what has been happening in terms of Bibi and the president.

=== Jimmy Swaggart: Full of Shit? (05:48) ===

[00:18:12]  And we're not buying it.
[00:18:15]  Susie says, Lionel, in Diddy's case, can a split decision be rendered like on the racketeering chart?
[00:18:20]  Split decision might be not guilty of rocketeering, guilty of...
[00:18:28]  You can be guilty of violation of the Mann Act, guilty of sex trafficking.
[00:18:36]  It's ridiculous.
[00:18:45]  What am I saying?
[00:18:46]  Bradley Sanders.
[00:18:48]  Jimmy Swaggart did.
[00:18:49]  I loved, I loved Jimmy Swaggart.
[00:18:54]  Didn't you love him in the old days?
[00:18:55]  Wasn't he great?
[00:18:56]  Jimmy Swaggart was fantastic.
[00:18:59]  Jimmy Swaggart was absolutely wonderful.
[00:19:06]  See what I'm saying?
[00:19:07]  Wonderful.
[00:19:08]  This was a time when I was so involved in absolutely being fascinated by the likes of those folks who were, what am I trying to say, evangelical ministers and the like.
[00:19:24]  Absolutely love it.
[00:19:25]  I have sinned.
[00:19:26]  Absolutely.
[00:19:27]  He was wonderful.
[00:19:28]  Jimmy Swagger was Jerry Lee Lewis' cousin, I believe.
[00:19:35]  Let me see here.
[00:19:38]  Let's see.
[00:19:38]  What do we have?
[00:19:40]  Let me see.
[00:19:45]  I have sinned.
[00:19:46]  Yes, he was wonderful.
[00:19:48]  Rounded up, lost sheep.
[00:19:52]  Rounded up, lost sheep.
[00:19:54]  What does that mean, per se?
[00:19:56]  Rounded up, lost sheep.
[00:20:00]  Was he the one who made everybody faint on stage?
[00:20:03]  No.
[00:20:03]  That was two things.
[00:20:04]  Benny Henn was one, and then Ernest Angely before that.
[00:20:10]  Didn't they catch Jimmy in the red light district?
[00:20:13]  I think his thing was pornography.
[00:20:17]  I think it was, which is very interesting.
[00:20:19]  Now watch this.
[00:20:19]  Let's just go to chat.
[00:20:21]  Let us figure this out.
[00:20:22]  Let me ask, what was the scandal that involved Jimmy Swigert?
[00:20:32]  Let's see what our friend chat says.
[00:20:34]  By the way, I'm so sorry.
[00:20:35]  When I look at my iPad, I get this reflection here.
[00:20:39]  1988, a wildly popular Pentecostal was exposed for consorting with prostitutes.
[00:20:45]  There we go.
[00:20:47]  The investigation was triggered by rival evangelist Marvin Gorman, who had been publicly disgraced by Swaggart.
[00:20:55]  Photographs were taken of Swaggert entering and exiting a motel in the company of a known prostitute, Deborah Murphy.
[00:21:06]  In 1991, he was again found with another prostitute in California.
[00:21:10]  This time, he told the congregation, the Lord told me it's flat, none of your business.
[00:21:16]  He built a reputation.
[00:21:20]  It was wonderful.
[00:21:21]  See, I love when hypocrites...
[00:21:26]  Do you believe, do you believe that Jimmy Swaggart, very simple.
[00:21:32]  Do you believe that Jimmy Swaggart was full of shit?
[00:21:38]  Do you?
[00:21:40]  Yes or no?
[00:21:41]  Very, very simple.
[00:21:42]  Very, very simple.
[00:21:44]  Do you believe that Jimmy Swaggart was full of shit?
[00:21:51]  I love you, Lionel, but do you ever sleep?
[00:21:53]  The two have nothing to do.
[00:21:55]  But I love you, but do you like golf?
[00:22:00]  I love you, but have you ever been to Montana?
[00:22:04]  I don't get it.
[00:22:09]  Private dancer.
[00:22:10]  Again, private dancer.
[00:22:12]  John Gelane says, private dancer.
[00:22:14]  What does that mean, John?
[00:22:17]  Private dancer, Tina Turner.
[00:22:22]  He had a private dancer.
[00:22:26]  What?
[00:22:27]  Now, if Jimmy Swaggard is full of shit, basically, does that mean because evangelicals are full of shit?
[00:22:35]  Born-agains are full of shit?
[00:22:36]  Or the whole notion of being a preacher is full of shit?
[00:22:42]  Money for dancing, horizontal jogging.
[00:22:45]  John Jelaine just at home amusing himself.
[00:22:50]  Thank you, John.
[00:22:50]  Appreciate it.
[00:22:51]  The bottom line is simply this.
[00:22:54]  I think they are full of it because God does not speak through these people.
[00:23:02]  God does not speak virtually at all.
[00:23:07]  God, there's no evidence of God speaking.
[00:23:12]  There just isn't.
[00:23:13]  You can interpret anything you want.
[00:23:16]  You can look at the clouds and you can see a face there, but there's no evidence of God being present, much less speaking, and much less speaking through Jimmy Swagger.
[00:23:27]  So that's the way that goes.
[00:23:29]  So not only is he full of shit, I think the entire industry is because God does not talk to people through intermediaries who play the piano and are the cousins of what's his name.
[00:23:44]  You got what I'm saying?

=== Opening Up The Phones (01:27) ===

[00:23:45]  Okay.
[00:23:45]  Anyway, dear friends, July the 19th, I'll be at the cutting room.
[00:23:49]  This has been fun.
[00:23:50]  I love to open up the phones and let everybody in the day room of the psych ward just start throwing things out, and it's fun.
[00:23:57]  That's the way it is.
[00:23:58]  It's a free country.
[00:24:01]  The Rev was a model human.
[00:24:03]  I have no idea.
[00:24:04]  This is so terrific.
[00:24:05]  And I hope when people read this, and I never read anybody else's.
[00:24:09]  Maybe other people write this as well.
[00:24:11]  I don't read live comments from other people.
[00:24:14]  But yours is the best because you're like watching the wrong channel or something or maybe you're...
[00:24:24]  But it's fascinating.
[00:24:25]  And look, we all enjoy ourselves one way or the other, and I'm resigned to it.
[00:24:28]  I thought I was wasting my time.
[00:24:30]  I thought this was just stupid, but I realized, no, it's not.
[00:24:34]  That's just the way it is, and nothing you can do about it.
[00:24:37]  All right, my friends, meet me right now at five minutes on 77WABC.
[00:24:42]  I will be there.
[00:24:43]  I will talk about you behind your back.
[00:24:45]  You're kind of a good warm-up.
[00:24:47]  We're going to be talking a little bit about Diddy and Leah Thomas and other stuff as well.
[00:24:51]  So you have a wonderful and a great day.
[00:24:53]  Don't forget July 19th.
[00:24:55]  See me at the cutting room.
[00:24:56]  I love you, Zo.
[00:24:58]  You're demented.
[00:24:59]  You are completely up big time.
[00:25:02]  I mean, royally.
[00:25:04]  But I love you.
[00:25:05]  I honestly love you.
[00:25:07]  All right, my friends.
[00:25:08]  Talk to you later.
[00:25:08]  Have a great and glorious day.
[00:25:09]  See you later.
[00:25:10]  And don't forget until then, remember, The Monkey's Dead.
[00:25:12]  The show's over.