Lionel Nation - Woke Collapse: Democrats Can’t Stop Losing and It’s Beautiful
Aired: 2025-05-10
Duration: 25:55


=== A 12 Foot Tall Controversy (06:29) ===

[00:00:02]  I'm waiting on purpose.
[00:00:06]  Every time I do this and I think I've waited enough lag time, I play it back and there's this hesitance, this interruption.
[00:00:18]  In any event, dear friend, how are you?
[00:00:20]  How are you feeling?
[00:00:21]  How is everything?
[00:00:23]  It is now Saturday morning, 1.22 a.m. Eastern Time.
[00:00:30]  Ready to go on the air at 2 a.m. for my WABC weekend overnight shift, which I love more than you can imagine.
[00:00:43]  It's a chance to engage people all over the area, the tri-state area in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and thereabouts, plus all over the world in terms of this.
[00:00:58]  Dare I say, wonderful, marvelous world of digital app and all that stuff.
[00:01:05]  So anyway, I hope you're doing well.
[00:01:08]  And if you're not doing well, I don't know what I'm supposed to tell you.
[00:01:12]  I don't know what I'm supposed to tell you if you're not.
[00:01:16]  So much to discuss.
[00:01:18]  So much.
[00:01:19]  Have you heard the story of this horror show on Times Square?
[00:01:27]  Tall.
[00:01:28]  Black.
[00:01:29]  There's Carl.
[00:01:31]  There's Carl.
[00:01:32]  Bless yourself, your heart.
[00:01:34]  Or bless yourself.
[00:01:36]  It is a horror show on Times Square.
[00:01:44]  It is this I guess you would call it a 12 foot tall statue paying homage To a black woman who apparently seems to be overweight.
[00:02:00]  She looks like she's one of the types who are about to get involved in a fight because of a bad Chipotle order.
[00:02:12]  What is it all about?
[00:02:15]  It was this week, and one of the fun aspects of this is going back on stories that happened during the week.
[00:02:21]  And trying not to talk about something which already has been talked about, but something which I find to be absolutely incredible.
[00:02:30]  The latest installment of New York's, I guess, saga?
[00:02:34]  I'm looking at this right now.
[00:02:35]  This is incredible, this saga of public art, which I've never been one of these people who talks about or discusses art.
[00:02:47]  I'm reading this.
[00:02:48]  It seems more I'm making a statement than celebrating shared values.
[00:02:52]  I don't know if anybody cares about shared values.
[00:02:54]  It's a 12-foot tall bronze statue.
[00:02:57]  It's called Grounded in the Stars.
[00:03:02]  And it was crafted by British artist Thomas J. Price and now stands prominently in Times Square depicting a plus-size fat woman.
[00:03:10]  And by the way, which is fine, a black woman.
[00:03:13]  In casual attire, hands on hips, exuding an air of defiance.
[00:03:17]  In my mind, looking like she, again, of all of the aspects, of all of the depictions of black America, look, far be it from me, this would not be it.
[00:03:34]  According to Price, the statue aims to challenge traditional ideas Around what defines a triumphant figure.
[00:03:42]  Again, if I didn't know this, I think it would be a racist.
[00:03:47]  Somebody who is deliberately trying to mock horribly black America, black women, and what have you.
[00:04:00]  And who should be rendered immortal through monumentalization.
[00:04:04]  In other words, it's less about honoring a specific individual and more about Pushing a narrative that redefines societal standards that, until recently, celebrated figures of historical significance and shared national pride.
[00:04:23]  But this doesn't make any sense.
[00:04:26]  This doesn't make any sense.
[00:04:28]  It's like the George Floyd as a hero.
[00:04:35]  If somebody wanted to put up a statue of John Gotti, As a hero, and I'm not trying to in any way compare the two.
[00:04:44]  The statue's placement is no accident.
[00:04:47]  It's situated near monuments of Father Francis Duffy.
[00:04:51]  CD3 says, please tell us the brand emblem on your shirt.
[00:04:56]  I believe it's a company by the name of Paul Stewart, it is called.
[00:05:02]  Thank you.
[00:05:05]  In other words, it's near Father Duffy.
[00:05:11]  And George M. Cohan.
[00:05:13]  By the way, Father Duffy was a decorated World War I chaplain, and George M. Cohan, a Broadway legend.
[00:05:20]  The Times Square Arts Organization explicitly notes that the new statue cuts a stark contrast to these existing monuments.
[00:05:33]  I don't know what to tell you.
[00:05:35]  This is the level of stupidity.
[00:05:38]  This is horrible.
[00:05:39]  If I am...
[00:05:42]  Again, I'm not one of you too bad.
[00:05:44]  Well, if I was black, if I were black, this is it?
[00:05:51]  If I wanted to dismiss the black experience, if I wanted to mock, humiliate, Portray something which I think would be racist.
[00:06:08]  What if I put a picture of somebody unattractive who looks like some slovenly I don't know what.

=== Bondi's McDonald's Riot (03:50) ===

[00:06:19]  Again, like somebody you see on YouTube in a McDonald's riot or something.
[00:06:26]  But I'm wondering maybe I'm thinking too much about this.
[00:06:32]  Maybe I'm thinking too deeply.
[00:06:33]  Maybe I'm thinking, no, there's no other, there's no subterfuge to this.
[00:06:38]  Maybe that's it.
[00:06:38]  I don't know.
[00:06:39]  In any event, I am in the position.
[00:06:44]  And this is incredible.
[00:06:46]  It is, again, it is insane.
[00:06:48]  Thank you.
[00:06:54]  Remember, for the Nielsen reminder today, the song Joy.
[00:06:59]  Joy by Nielsen, I do not know.
[00:07:02]  In any event, we'll talk about that.
[00:07:03]  And there's just so much.
[00:07:05]  But it's so great speaking to you.
[00:07:07]  Al Sanchez is here.
[00:07:11]  I go through every day of my life saying, you know, I don't get this.
[00:07:13]  You know, I don't understand this.
[00:07:15]  You know, this doesn't make any sense to me.
[00:07:17]  You know, I don't get this.
[00:07:19]  I don't understand this.
[00:07:22]  I don't follow this.
[00:07:25]  And then I think, maybe I'm just, I'm too...
[00:07:28]  I'm too, dare I say, cerebral for this.
[00:07:31]  Maybe I'm going too much into this whole notion.
[00:07:39]  I don't know what to tell you.
[00:07:41]  There's something that is...
[00:07:55]  Saturday night here in New York, driving in, seeing absolutely city bars open, people in the street, people enjoying themselves, everybody happy, conviviating.
[00:08:17]  It reminded me of the days, the days of, how do I say this, of COVID.
[00:08:23]  Remember that?
[00:08:24]  Remember that?
[00:08:26]  And how we just were.
[00:08:30]  I still can't believe.
[00:08:32]  I still can't believe.
[00:08:34]  Next move on the 5D board, General Kim Bondi?
[00:08:38]  You mean Pam Bondi?
[00:08:41]  General?
[00:08:42]  I don't know what that means.
[00:08:44]  I'm not sure what that means, by the way.
[00:08:46]  I told you this week.
[00:08:48]  In fact, let me give you a list of what I'm going to be talking about today.
[00:08:51]  Which I think is very, very critical.
[00:08:53]  In no particular issue.
[00:08:55]  And what's interesting is during the week, I make notes of this.
[00:08:58]  Like, I want to talk about this.
[00:08:59]  I want to talk about this.
[00:09:00]  And I don't want to talk about a subject on a Saturday.
[00:09:03]  To me, this is Friday night.
[00:09:05]  This is not Saturday morning.
[00:09:06]  I never understood that.
[00:09:07]  But I don't want to talk about something that is, for all practical purposes, you know, the same stuff.
[00:09:14]  But I want to talk about Pam Bondi.
[00:09:18]  This James O 'Keefe, who's a rat.
[00:09:20]  James O 'Keefe is a rat.
[00:09:23]  I don't understand this.
[00:09:25]  I'll talk about the Bertha Butt.
[00:09:28]  Remember Bertha Butt?
[00:09:29]  Remember that song?
[00:09:31]  Met Gala Satanism, Leo and the Papacy, Diddy and Epstein, Dark Woke.
[00:09:39]  Are you familiar with what Dark Woke is?
[00:09:42]  If we get the chance of that, transgender as cosplay.
[00:09:47]  The more shocking, profound, or brutal a story is, the easier it becomes to fabricate it.

=== Stuttering Insights (15:33) ===

[00:09:54]  Outrage distracts from scrutiny.
[00:09:56]  The bigger the emotional punch, the less people question.
[00:10:01]  I'm also going to be talking about this week, something which I want to talk to you very much about, stuttering.
[00:10:05]  Are there any stutterers out there?
[00:10:07]  Anybody listening to me right now who is a stutterer?
[00:10:10]  Okay?
[00:10:12]  Anybody?
[00:10:15]  The reason why is I find myself, and I think a lot of us, spending too much time mocking people because of weight.
[00:10:30]  Weight is the thing that puts us into this, like it's okay.
[00:10:35]  Because we say, well, you know it's unhealthy.
[00:10:39]  Well, it's okay for me to mock.
[00:10:41]  I say, do we really need to mock?
[00:10:42]  It's one thing to say, look, I think we need to worry about obesity, I think health, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:10:45]  That's fine.
[00:10:46]  But this is a mocking thing.
[00:10:48]  So as I was talking about it, many believe, and I suggest this, that maybe there's a certain degree of a handicap.
[00:10:56]  Because I truly believe that in some cases, there are people who have a greater propensity for weight gain, maybe it's cultural, maybe whatever it is.
[00:11:07]  Whatever.
[00:11:08]  But why do we have such hate?
[00:11:10]  Why is it that of all the things, we always say, well, you know, like Pritzker, you know, the governor of Illinois, we always talk about his weight.
[00:11:21]  When Rush Limbaugh, when Al Franken, Rush Limbaugh's a big fat idiot, and I think about it, why is that?
[00:11:29]  Why is there, what is the disdain?
[00:11:34]  I was watching pictures of...
[00:11:37]  Jackie Gleason.
[00:11:41]  You know, this whole thing was his size, his girth.
[00:11:45]  Cannon.
[00:11:46]  Remember, William Conrad.
[00:11:47]  There was a time in this country where we used to travel 100 miles to go see a 300-pound fat person at a carnival.
[00:11:57]  Why?
[00:11:59]  Why does it fascinate you?
[00:12:01]  And maybe one of the reasons why is, growing up as a kid, I was always...
[00:12:06]  What's called fat.
[00:12:07]  My parents are very good.
[00:12:08]  They go, "Oh, no, no, you're not fat.
[00:12:10]  You're just...
[00:12:11]  You're big.
[00:12:12]  You're big." And I truly was.
[00:12:13]  I was the biggest kid in my class.
[00:12:16]  I showed my wife a picture of me in the fifth grade.
[00:12:18]  I'm like in the last row.
[00:12:19]  I'm standing up above everybody now.
[00:12:21]  I'm like Willie Shoemaker or Billy Barty.
[00:12:23]  I don't know what that's about, but I don't really care.
[00:12:25]  At my level of cognitive mastery, I don't really care about girth.
[00:12:31]  I'm not doing that.
[00:12:33]  Big bones?
[00:12:34]  Is it going big?
[00:12:35]  Big.
[00:12:36]  But see, I was just big, though.
[00:12:37]  You're big.
[00:12:39]  But my real handicap, if you will, was stuttering.
[00:12:42]  I was right around, I guess, puberty, or whatever you want to call it.
[00:12:50]  It was tough.
[00:12:52]  And when you can't speak...
[00:12:54]  So I'm going to see if I can get people on the phone tonight to call who are stutterers.
[00:12:58]  Good luck.
[00:12:59]  I mean, good luck with that one.
[00:13:01]  Because...
[00:13:02]  The reason for it, the reason for it is the most interesting.
[00:13:08]  Because it makes you feel in a weird way.
[00:13:12]  Look at this.
[00:13:13]  I've been following Lionel since he has 217 followers.
[00:13:18]  That is so great.
[00:13:19]  Thank you for that.
[00:13:20]  So anyway, there's something about stuttering that just, I want to get right to the point.
[00:13:27]  Right, right to the point.
[00:13:29]  But I think it's so interesting.
[00:13:31]  And what is your handicap?
[00:13:33]  What is the thing that you have?
[00:13:36]  What is that thing which you have?
[00:13:38]  Explain to me your handicap.
[00:13:43]  I'm going to try to explain the neurological and physical and actual causes and reasons and types of stuttering.
[00:13:53]  What are the sources?
[00:13:55]  What about the treatment?
[00:13:56]  What about the incident?
[00:13:58]  Is it men versus women?
[00:13:59]  Does it affect a particular age group?
[00:14:01]  Do you outlive it?
[00:14:03]  Do you outgrow it?
[00:14:07]  I'm looking for a comprehensive kind of a review of stuttering, which I find fascinating.
[00:14:16]  Truly fascinating.
[00:14:19]  And I always want to tell people also, if you run into a stutterer, What is it that you...
[00:14:25]  What are the things you do?
[00:14:29]  Oh, by the by, I forgot to mention this.
[00:14:32]  Maybe I should have.
[00:14:34]  Maybe I should bring this up.
[00:14:37]  There is a...
[00:14:39]  Maybe there's a...
[00:14:43]  There's something that we can explain here.
[00:14:45]  Let me see if I can go back.
[00:14:47]  Did you know that there are genetic factors to stuttering?
[00:14:54]  So many things are genetic.
[00:14:55]  So much of what we do is genetic.
[00:14:57]  And juttering is...
[00:14:58]  Juttering.
[00:14:59]  Stuttering and stammering, two different kinds of things.
[00:15:01]  And some people have made it.
[00:15:03]  By the way, Brando, thank you so much.
[00:15:06]  I stutter when I type.
[00:15:09]  Can you think of all the great stuttering songs?
[00:15:12]  B-b-b-baby, you ain't seen nothing yet.
[00:15:17]  Catmandu, right?
[00:15:19]  B-b-b-benny and the Jets.
[00:15:22]  What were some other great ones?
[00:15:24]  There's some songs that have stuttering.
[00:15:28]  Neurogenic stuttering.
[00:15:32]  Famous songs that use stuttering as a part of the singing or vocals.
[00:15:43]  Have you ever heard this one?
[00:15:45]  My generation.
[00:15:48]  My generation.
[00:15:51]  Benny and the Jets.
[00:15:52]  You ain't seen nothing yet.
[00:15:53]  Bad.
[00:15:57]  Oh, I know bad.
[00:16:00]  MJ stutters slightly and delivering his, you know I'm bad, I'm bad.
[00:16:04]  You know what really, b-b-b-bad.
[00:16:07]  Changes.
[00:16:08]  Ch-ch-ch-changes.
[00:16:11]  Barbaran.
[00:16:13]  Barbaran.
[00:16:13]  I don't know if that's stuttering per se.
[00:16:17]  Rehab.
[00:16:19]  You know.
[00:16:20]  2006, a baby's gonna go to rehab, I say no, no, no.
[00:16:26]  It's not a stutter technically.
[00:16:29]  I don't know if anybody thinks about this.
[00:16:31]  Drug-induced stuttering.
[00:16:33]  I don't believe that's true.
[00:16:35]  I think it was in some particular cases.
[00:16:37]  But if you ever...
[00:16:39]  Much of what we do is also due to epigenetics.
[00:16:44]  That is true, Al Sanchez.
[00:16:45]  That is true.
[00:16:47]  But epigenetics works...
[00:16:49]  Oh, Mel Tillis.
[00:16:55]  Famous stutterers in acting and music and theater and entertainment.
[00:17:02]  Mel Tillis, it was his...
[00:17:04]  Mel Tillis may have been something different.
[00:17:08]  Mel Tillis does not...
[00:17:09]  How do we see this?
[00:17:10]  When you sing, when you're doing something rhythmic...
[00:17:14]  You don't stutter.
[00:17:15]  Also when you wear headphones or something that cuts off your ability to hear yourself.
[00:17:19]  James Earl Jones, Bruce Willis, Emily Blunt, Samuel L. Jackson, Marilyn Monroe, Bill Withers, Carly Simon, Kendrick Lamar, Rowan Atkinson, you know, Mr. Bean, Jack Welch, King George VI.
[00:17:38]  It's something that you can kind of get around.
[00:17:42]  Joe Biden claims to be a stutterer.
[00:17:44]  I don't know about that one.
[00:17:46]  I've always had, luckily for me, I'll tell you what my secret is.
[00:17:49]  You know what it is?
[00:17:49]  You know how I got around it?
[00:17:51]  You know what I did?
[00:17:54]  And nobody would ever admit this, but I'm going to tell you this and see if you can grasp it.
[00:18:01]  Oh, Porky Pig?
[00:18:02]  That's very good.
[00:18:04]  Yes.
[00:18:04]  You know what?
[00:18:05]  That's very good.
[00:18:06]  I'm going to write that down.
[00:18:08]  Thank you for that.
[00:18:09]  I don't think anybody was trying to be mean.
[00:18:13]  But, yes.
[00:18:16]  Porky, let me get my bag out here.
[00:18:17]  Porky Pig.
[00:18:21]  Interesting.
[00:18:25]  Porky Pig.
[00:18:27]  You know, that's very good.
[00:18:28]  I don't know why.
[00:18:29]  That's all, folks.
[00:18:31]  porky pig.
[00:18:39]  There was somebody else.
[00:18:40]  Yeah, Mel Tillis.
[00:18:44]  Anyway, there's a...
[00:18:45]  Give me an example of what I did.
[00:18:48]  If you were to tell somebody, okay, you're a stutterer, and I want you to talk like this.
[00:18:55]  I want you to do your very...
[00:19:00]  use a voice that's not your own.
[00:19:06]  You'd be surprised how many people could say, you know, I can do that.
[00:19:08]  Why?
[00:19:09]  Because it's not my own.
[00:19:09]  The worst for me when I was in my period of, because I would wake up sometimes and feel it.
[00:19:15]  I could feel it in my head.
[00:19:18]  I could feel the fact that I was, it was coming on like an aura.
[00:19:26]  And not the letter aura, aura, oh aura.
[00:19:30]  But I could feel it similar to what some people who had epilepsy.
[00:19:35]  But I could tell, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
[00:19:37]  We got some problems with this.
[00:19:38]  You know, Houston, we got a problem with this.
[00:19:40]  We got a problem.
[00:19:41]  So as I would feel it, I would start to change the way I speak.
[00:19:46]  So years ago, I said, if I change the way I speak, if I use a different way, a different cadence, a different rhythm, if I'm aware, follow this, if I'm aware of what I'm doing, if I'm able to speak, In a different pattern.
[00:20:05]  If I speak louder, if I speak softer, if I speak more like this, if I use an accent, I took on what people would think sometimes was a New York accent.
[00:20:21]  The people of the South thought I was Jewish.
[00:20:31]  Just a second.
[00:20:33]  This is L, is, bless her heart.
[00:20:34]  Uh-huh.
[00:20:48]  Just a second.
[00:20:52]  Anywho, so as I came up with different ways to pronounce my words, I got around it.
[00:21:02]  I would say things like, it's the weirdest thing.
[00:21:19]  Anyway, Mrs. Dell's talking, checking, she's texting me.
[00:21:23]  Bless her heart, she's up doing all kinds of stuff.
[00:21:26]  In any event, so what I did was, yes, Mrs. Dell just texted in.
[00:21:31]  She gets priority over you.
[00:21:33]  I hope you don't take that in the wrong way.
[00:21:36]  In any event, I wanted people to understand in the course of this stuff that we all have handicapped.
[00:21:44]  What is yours?
[00:21:45]  What do you do?
[00:21:46]  What is your handicap?
[00:21:47]  I've got one in particular that I know it doesn't really come up but I know for a fact How do I say this?
[00:22:09]  There's...
[00:22:09]  I'm sorry.
[00:22:13]  This is very rude, but she comes first.
[00:22:18]  I'm going to tell a story.
[00:22:19]  I hope you watch, by the way.
[00:22:21]  77 WABC.
[00:22:22]  It's wabcradio.com.
[00:22:25]  Make sure you tune in.
[00:22:26]  There's an app.
[00:22:28]  Make sure you listen to the app as well.
[00:22:30]  I'm going to go through the hell.
[00:22:33]  That I went through.
[00:22:35]  But in any event, dear friends, in any event, I want you to recognize a couple of things here.
[00:22:40]  First and foremost, that I appreciate immensely the fact that you are here.
[00:22:48]  I love immensely the fact that you are a part of this thing that we do.
[00:22:52]  I mean this sincerely.
[00:22:55]  It's so critical, it's so wonderful that you're able to just be a part of this.
[00:23:00]  Because what I do is so different.
[00:23:03]  It's not...
[00:23:03]  And I want it to be different.
[00:23:05]  It's not what other people are doing.
[00:23:06]  It's not what they're trying to do.
[00:23:07]  It's not their thing.
[00:23:09]  It's what I do.
[00:23:10]  And you've always been a part of this.
[00:23:11]  And I mean that.
[00:23:13]  And it's just...
[00:23:14]  It's so...
[00:23:15]  I think I have the best...
[00:23:17]  Not followers.
[00:23:19]  I don't know what that...
[00:23:19]  It sounds like you're some kind of an acolyte or something.
[00:23:22]  But I think it's the most wonderful group, if you will.
[00:23:29]  Because I look at others and it's funny.
[00:23:31]  There's so many great people who talk, but there's no interaction between the host or the person, the creator, and the people watching.
[00:23:39]  Did you ever notice that?
[00:23:40]  I'm not going to mention any names, but participants.
[00:23:43]  There's nobody.
[00:23:43]  They don't do that.
[00:23:44]  They don't pay any...
[00:23:46]  They never recognize him.
[00:23:50]  Like Al Sanchez.
[00:23:52]  Unique approach.
[00:23:53]  You have one, Al.
[00:23:54]  Al, you do.
[00:23:56]  You have a unique approach, and I mean that sincerely.
[00:23:58]  But in any event, dear friends, dear friends and glorious friends, I'm going to drink some more of my coffee in a plastic cup.
[00:24:07]  I'll be here until 5 a.m. loving this.
[00:24:10]  So don't forget, where are you going to go?
[00:24:11]  I think it's WABC Radio.
[00:24:13]  Look at my YouTube channel.
[00:24:19]  Jewel says, I think this is a fun time, naturally speaking.
[00:24:22]  I like that as well.
[00:24:24]  I don't know what that particular iteration is.
[00:24:26]  It's a fun time, naturally speaking.
[00:24:28]  Or if you mean this is fun because this is natural, I don't know.
[00:24:31]  See how important words are?
[00:24:32]  You see why hearsay is not permitted in courtroom?
[00:24:36]  Because I can take what you're saying, I can read it any way I want.
[00:24:41]  I can give different inflections, different emphasis, and the like, in any event.
[00:24:45]  All right, dear friends, I thank you so much.
[00:24:48]  Thank you.
[00:24:48]  Remember back in the days when Lionel had this show on Air America, when he was a blue no matter who?
[00:24:54]  Oh, no, I wasn't.
[00:24:55]  Oh, no, I wasn't.
[00:24:57]  One of the things which they had a problem was, remember, at that time, it was Barack Obama.
[00:25:03]  It was a different kind of a world where the other alternatives then was John McCain and Sarah Palin.

=== Lionel Nation's Love Note (00:44) ===

[00:25:12]  Oh, my God.
[00:25:13]  No, no.
[00:25:14]  Remember, I'm not a conservative.
[00:25:16]  I'm not a liberal.
[00:25:18]  I'm not a member of any party.
[00:25:20]  Because once you say you're a member of a party, you're done.
[00:25:23]  How about that John Fetterman?
[00:25:24]  Something's wrong with him.
[00:25:25]  I'm looking up.
[00:25:25]  I see his picture.
[00:25:27]  Anyway, but I digress.
[00:25:29]  I might think, oh, a squirrel.
[00:25:31]  All right, my friends, I love you.
[00:25:32]  Thank you so much.
[00:25:33]  Please make sure you are subscribed to Lionel Nation.
[00:25:37]  Lionel Nation.
[00:25:38]  Thank you for watching.
[00:25:39]  Have a great and a glorious day.
[00:25:41]  Have a beautiful day.
[00:25:42]  Be safe.
[00:25:43]  Be careful when you drive.
[00:25:45]  Don't drink and drive.
[00:25:46]  You might hit a bump, spill your drink.
[00:25:47]  Not good.
[00:25:48]  In any event, my friends, I love you.
[00:25:50]  Have a great day.
[00:25:51]  Don't ever change.
[00:25:51]  And until then, remember, the monkey's dead.
[00:25:53]  The show's over.
[00:25:54]  Sue you.