Lionel Nation - Why Are Conservatives So Angry With Charlie Kirk Now?
Aired: 2025-03-09
Duration: 13:21


=== Charlie Kirk's Betrayal (13:21) ===

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[00:01:30]  Let me make something very, very clear.
[00:01:34]  Something very, very limpidly clear, which is redundant.
[00:01:39]  Charlie Kirk just stabbed President Trump in the back.
[00:01:44]  It's that simple.
[00:01:47]  And conservatives everywhere should be very upset about this.
[00:01:51]  In fact, spitting mad.
[00:01:54]  Because the Turning Point USA poster boy, once a darling of the MAGA faithful, decided to cozy up to none other than Gavin Newsom, California's slick-head, radical left rat bastard.
[00:02:11]  Where, on the Governor's shiny new podcast, this is Gavin Newsom.
[00:02:16]  How about that?
[00:02:17]  What was Quirk thinking?
[00:02:19]  Trading his red hat cred for his seat at the table with a guy who spent years trashing our President Trump.
[00:02:27]  Turning the golden state into a crime-infested, tax-choked wasteland.
[00:02:33]  And locking down his citizens like it's a communist dystopia.
[00:02:37]  Yeah, that guy.
[00:02:38]  That's who he's talking to.
[00:02:39]  This isn't just a misstep.
[00:02:41]  It's a betrayal.
[00:02:43]  A betrayal of everything that Trump stands for.
[00:02:46]  And Kirk's got some serious splaining to do, Lucy.
[00:02:50]  He's got some splaining to do before the MAGA base sends him packing.
[00:02:55]  Now listen, let's get one thing straight.
[00:02:59]  Gavin Newsom is the enemy.
[00:03:01]  He's the enemy.
[00:03:02]  This isn't hyperbole, it's fact.
[00:03:05]  He's the guy who sneered at Trump's America First agenda while letting illegals flood his sanctuary state.
[00:03:13]  This is the guy who shut down churches during COVID, but kept his precious wineries open.
[00:03:20]  Isn't that interesting?
[00:03:21]  That's what we're talking about here.
[00:03:23]  He's a slimy, power-hungry elitist who'd sell his mother for a shot at the White House.
[00:03:29]  And now he's got Charlie Kirk, of all people, playing nice on his podcast.
[00:03:35]  Kirk didn't just give Newsom a platform.
[00:03:38]  He gave him legitimacy.
[00:03:40]  The same Newsom who called Trump voters deplorable, who pushed every anti-gun, pro-abortion, climate-crazy policy down California's throat, now gets to pretend he's some reasonable let's talk moderate because Charlie Kirk handed him the mic.
[00:03:59]  Let me explain something to you.
[00:04:00]  This is disgusting.
[00:04:01]  And what's worse, Kirk didn't even bring the fight.
[00:04:06]  You think a guy who's built his brand on owning libs?
[00:04:09]  Would at least throw a few punches.
[00:04:12]  I know.
[00:04:14]  He sat there like a lapdog, letting Newsom just ramble on about fairness and trans athletes and nodding along like it's some coffee chap.
[00:04:26]  Let me tell you something.
[00:04:28]  Newsom's a rat bastard.
[00:04:30]  He's wrecked California.
[00:04:32]  You know it.
[00:04:33]  Crime's up.
[00:04:34]  Businesses are fleeing.
[00:04:35]  And the streets...
[00:04:37]  Or a junkie's paradise.
[00:04:39]  Yet Charlie Kirk didn't call him out.
[00:04:41]  He didn't mention the 50% murder spike in Minneapolis-style chaos.
[00:04:47]  Newsom's anti-cop rhetoric helped fuel nationwide.
[00:04:51]  No.
[00:04:52]  Never mention a word.
[00:04:54]  He didn't hammer him on the $50 billion Trump-proof California boondoggle.
[00:05:01]  Instead, Charlie Kirk let Newsom play the gracious host.
[00:05:06]  Even asking for advice for Democrats.
[00:05:08]  Advice!
[00:05:09]  From a Trump warrior to a Trump-hating sleaze?
[00:05:13]  What are we talking about here?
[00:05:14]  That's not just weak, it's treasonous.
[00:05:17]  Trump's been the rock of this movement, the guy who took on the deep state, the fake news media, and every globalist hack like Newsom without blinking.
[00:05:27]  That's who our President Trump is.
[00:05:28]  He's the reason conservatives have a spine today.
[00:05:32]  And Kirk's supposed to be carrying that torch?
[00:05:35]  Instead, he's sipping wine, probably from Newsom's own vineyard, with a guy who'd locked Trump up if he could.
[00:05:41]  That's right.
[00:05:43]  Imagine Trump's face watching that.
[00:05:46]  His loyal foot soldier, the kid who rallied campuses for MAGA, now chumming it up with a leftist sneak, who spent years spitting on everything Trump built?
[00:05:57]  Charlie Kirk's not just a traitor to some.
[00:06:01]  He's a Judas.
[00:06:03]  Selling out the causes for 30 pieces of podcast silver.
[00:06:06]  You know, the MAGA base isn't stupid.
[00:06:08]  They see through this garbage.
[00:06:11]  Kirk's little stunt here didn't go unnoticed.
[00:06:15]  X lit up with Patriots calling him out.
[00:06:18]  One user raged that Charlie should have been aggressive, not buying Newsom's BS about his son liking him.
[00:06:25]  Newsom's a monster.
[00:06:27]  Another one said that...
[00:06:29]  Something to the effect of, I'm upset with Charlie for letting Gavin use him.
[00:06:33]  Nothing gained here.
[00:06:34]  They're right, Kirk.
[00:06:35]  They're right.
[00:06:37]  You didn't gain a damn thing.
[00:06:39]  He lost credibility.
[00:06:40]  He gave Newsom a win.
[00:06:43]  A chance to look bipartisan.
[00:06:45]  While Kirk's loyal followers wonder why they're guys playing footsie with a radical who'd rather see Trump in chains than in the Oval Office.
[00:06:54]  Gavin Newsom's a master slime bag, but a manipulator.
[00:06:59]  And Charlie Kirk fell for a hook, line, and stinker.
[00:07:04]  This podcast wasn't about dialogue, it was a setup.
[00:07:08]  You see, Newsom's eyeing 2028, and he's desperate to shed his far-left stench and rebrand himself, I guess, as a centrist.
[00:07:17]  And who better to help than a young conservative star?
[00:07:22]  Charlie Kirk handed him a lifeline, letting Newsom pontificate about trans athletes being unfair while dodging his own hypocrisy.
[00:07:32]  California's laws let men dominate women's sports.
[00:07:36]  And Newsom signed the bills.
[00:07:39]  Charlie Kirk didn't pounce on that, didn't shred Newsom's COVID tyranny or his open border insanity.
[00:07:45]  No, he just sat there, a useful idiot, while Newsom polished his image for the national stage.
[00:07:52]  Trump never would have let that slide.
[00:07:55]  He'd have crushed Gavin Newsom in 10 seconds flat.
[00:07:58]  Let's talk loyalty.
[00:08:00]  Trump's given everything to this fight.
[00:08:03]  His fortune, his reputation, his peace, and almost his life.
[00:08:09]  Taking slings and arrows from scum like Newsom so conservatives could thrive?
[00:08:14]  Think about this.
[00:08:15]  Charlie Kirk owes him better than this.
[00:08:17]  Turning Point USA was built on Trump's coattails.
[00:08:20]  Rallying the youth to drain the swamp, not to sip lattes with swamp creatures.
[00:08:26]  Charlie Kirk's fans didn't sign up for this.
[00:08:29]  They wanted a fighter, not a fraternizer.
[00:08:32]  And when Trump was dodging assassination attempts and winning 2024, Gavin Newsom was plotting ways to undermine him.
[00:08:41]  Now Kirk's giving him airtime.
[00:08:43]  Think about this.
[00:08:44]  It's a slap in the face.
[00:08:46]  A slap in the face of every Trump voter who trusted Kirk to hold the line.
[00:08:52]  The optics are a disaster.
[00:08:55]  Charlie Kirk looks like a sellout.
[00:08:57]  A guy who'd rather chase clout than defend the movement.
[00:09:00]  Newsom's a rat bastard.
[00:09:02]  Don't be mistaken.
[00:09:04]  There's no sugarcoating him.
[00:09:06]  He's the bolster child for everything wrong with the left.
[00:09:08]  Smug, hypocritical, arrogant, obsessed with power.
[00:09:13]  California's a mess because of him.
[00:09:15]  Homeless camps, skyrocketing taxes, and a middle class fleeing in droves.
[00:09:20]  Yet Charlie Kirk didn't lay a glove on him.
[00:09:23]  He let Newsom spin his web, playing the reasonable governor bit, while Charlie Kirk's silence basically, in essence, screamed complicity.
[00:09:34]  Listen to me.
[00:09:37]  Donald Trump's warriors don't break bread with the enemy.
[00:09:41]  They break the enemy.
[00:09:42]  Kurt forgot that.
[00:09:44]  And some might say, oh, he's reaching across the aisle.
[00:09:48]  He's winning hearts and minds.
[00:09:51]  Bullshit.
[00:09:52]  You don't win by coddling a guy who'd gut your values in a heartbeat.
[00:09:58]  Gavin Newsom's not persuadable.
[00:10:00]  He's an ideologue who'd rather see America burn than admit that Trump was right.
[00:10:08]  This podcast cameo, Charlie's Little event here?
[00:10:13]  Didn't convert anyone.
[00:10:14]  It just emboldened a leftist ghoul.
[00:10:17]  You see, Trump didn't beat the odds by schmoozing with rhinos and radicals.
[00:10:22]  He fought them head-on.
[00:10:24]  Charlie Kirk's supposed to be the next generation of that fight.
[00:10:28]  Not a pawn in Newsom's PR game.
[00:10:31]  Do you hear what I'm saying?
[00:10:32]  The fallout's already brewing.
[00:10:34]  It's critical.
[00:10:35]  Conservatives on X or Twitter, whatever the hell it's called this week, are livid.
[00:10:38]  With one calling it a catastrophic betrayal that destroyed his credibility.
[00:10:43]  They're not wrong.
[00:10:44]  Kirk's brand was built on unapologetic Trumpism.
[00:10:47]  You know, that's the whole thing.
[00:10:49]  And now he's tainted it.
[00:10:50]  He's ruined it.
[00:10:52]  Gavin Newsom's laughing all the way to his next photo op while Charlie Kirk's scrambling to explain why he thought this was a good idea.
[00:10:58]  And he can't.
[00:10:59]  Spoiler, it wasn't a good idea!
[00:11:03]  Trump's base doesn't forgive easily.
[00:11:05]  I don't forgive easily.
[00:11:07]  And Kirk's flirtation with a rat bastard like Newsom might just cost him the trust he spent years earning.
[00:11:14]  Now listen, let's be very clear here.
[00:11:16]  Trump's the gold standard.
[00:11:18]  The gold standard, uncompromising, fearless, a lion among men.
[00:11:24]  He didn't cozy up to Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi for dialogue.
[00:11:29]  He called them out, exposed their lies, and he won.
[00:11:34]  Kirk's no Trump.
[00:11:35]  Not even close.
[00:11:37]  If he thinks this podcast stunt was smart, Newsom's a political vulture picking at America's carcass.
[00:11:44]  And Kirk just fed him a snack.
[00:11:47]  You see, my friends, the MAGA movement, the America First movement, now the Doge movement, they don't need turncoats.
[00:11:54]  They need warriors.
[00:11:56]  Now, Charlie's got a choice.
[00:11:58]  Beg forgiveness and get back in the fight, or keep kissing Newsom's ass and watch his relevance fade.
[00:12:06]  I'm going to say it again.
[00:12:08]  This isn't about optics or strategies.
[00:12:11]  It's about principle.
[00:12:12]  Gavin Newsom's a radical who hates everything Trump stands for.
[00:12:17]  Strong borders, low taxes, law and order.
[00:12:21]  And Charlie Kerr gave him a pass.
[00:12:24]  And that is unforgivable.
[00:12:28]  Trump's still the king.
[00:12:29]  The guy who saved America from the left's clutches.
[00:12:33]  Anyone who claims...
[00:12:35]  Anyone who claims his mantle better damn well act like it.
[00:12:40]  Charlie crooked it.
[00:12:41]  He looked like a traitor, shaking hands with a rat bastard, while the Mago faithful seethed.
[00:12:49]  Time to pick a side, Charlie.
[00:12:51]  Trump's or Newsom's?
[00:12:54]  You can't ride both.
[00:12:56]  And we're not going to forget this.
[00:12:59]  I sure as hell won't.
[00:13:01]  What do you think, my friend?
[00:13:03]  Is this too harsh?
[00:13:04]  You buying this?
[00:13:05]  What do you think?
[00:13:06]  What do you think?
[00:13:07]  Put your thoughts and comments below.
[00:13:10]  Put them on this section and answer our questions.
[00:13:13]  This is war.
[00:13:14]  Whose side is Charlie on?
[00:13:16]  And whose side are you on?
[00:13:19]  I know which side you're on.
[00:13:20]  The right side.