Lionel Nation - The New Oil? Why Silver Is About to Explode in Value – A Must-Watch for Investors!
Aired: 2025-01-23
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[00:01:31]  Dear friends, I'm glad again and honored again to be talking to, for the first time of the new year, Colin Plume from...
[00:01:38]  Noble Gold Investments.
[00:01:40]  And by the way, as you can see at the bottom of the screen, LionelNationGold.com, Noble Gold Investments, 877-646-5347.
[00:01:50]  Commit that.
[00:01:51]  Prick your blood, your finger, write it in blood, tattoo it on your forehead.
[00:01:54]  Never forget.
[00:01:54]  Colin, welcome.
[00:01:55]  Happy New Year, my friend.
[00:01:57]  Happy New Year.
[00:01:57]  Nice to be here.
[00:01:58]  Exciting year.
[00:02:00]  Let's talk about this.
[00:02:02]  Yeah.
[00:02:03]  This is the book.
[00:02:03]  It's called Silver is the New Oil.
[00:02:05]  Right.
[00:02:06]  Strategies for Profiting from the Next Industrial Revolution.

=== Owning Assets in the Energy Transition (04:51) ===

[00:02:10]  Colin Plume, available on Amazon every place else.
[00:02:14]  By the way, this is going to be coming to a theater near you.
[00:02:16]  Who is going to be playing you in this?
[00:02:19]  That's a great question.
[00:02:20]  I don't know.
[00:02:20]  I haven't thought about it.
[00:02:21]  Brian Austin Green, maybe?
[00:02:23]  I don't know.
[00:02:23]  I used to get that as a kid.
[00:02:24]  They used to say I used to look like him, an older actor.
[00:02:27]  I don't know.
[00:02:29]  I'm excited to have the book out.
[00:02:31]  It took a few years to get it to the finish line.
[00:02:36]  Everybody talks about gold, which I love gold.
[00:02:38]  I always talk about gold, but I wanted to dive into silver and really talk about the opportunity in silver.
[00:02:49]  I think when you're looking at commodities, silver's...
[00:02:53]  A little bit like the redheaded stepchild.
[00:02:55]  No one really talks about it, so I wanted to dive into it and put a lot of charts and graphs.
[00:02:59]  Yeah, go ahead.
[00:03:00]  It is absolutely replete with information and data, but keep in mind that when we talk about electric vehicles, solar panels, advanced technologies, all of them require silver.
[00:03:09]  It's not just this thing you look at and say, oh, okay.
[00:03:13]  Gold is a wonderful thing, but you're not going to have gold-lined Machinery makes it very, very expensive.
[00:03:24]  That's a great point.
[00:03:26]  I think that when you're looking at where things are going for the future, there's a few big topics in the book that I go over.
[00:03:35]  One is energy.
[00:03:37]  Everybody knows where energy goes.
[00:03:40]  The wealth goes.
[00:03:42]  Oil was the great wealth generator in the late 1800s, 1900s.
[00:03:47]  J. Paul Getty and all of these magnets that created this unbelievable wealth.
[00:03:52]  And now everyone's looking around and saying, well, what's the next thing that is going to have unbelievable wealth that's tied to energy?
[00:04:01]  And a lot of people today are talking about nuclear energy and this type of energy.
[00:04:05]  But there's things that we know can help reduce costs.
[00:04:10]  Day-to-day living.
[00:04:11]  And one of them is electric vehicles.
[00:04:14]  And, you know, I talk about it in the book is that if you just, once you, if you just compare the $25,000 car, same Adam, you know, A to B, gas car to electric car, you're going to save 55% minimum today.
[00:04:29]  On your monthly expense in that electric vehicle compared gas to electric.
[00:04:33]  That's just right now.
[00:04:34]  And if you add those numbers up over a long time, it ends up being a lot of money.
[00:04:39]  And everyone's talking about EV and the prices have dropped.
[00:04:43]  And I'm thinking to myself, it's an amazing opportunity.
[00:04:46]  Some of these cars, these Teslas you're picking up, I've seen people buying them for $20,000 and they have no gas.
[00:04:53]  It can add a lot.
[00:04:55]  These little things, a monthly expense like gas, that can continue.
[00:05:00]  And we're going to see $8 gas.
[00:05:02]  We're going to see $10 gas.
[00:05:04]  So my 55% savings is based on today.
[00:05:07]  It's not based on where gasoline is going to go.
[00:05:10]  So that's a tremendous savings day-to-day.
[00:05:14]  Solar panels.
[00:05:15]  Obviously, electricity is something that's just gone up and up and up and up.
[00:05:19]  So the idea of having solar panels.
[00:05:24]  We'll continue to keep your costs low.
[00:05:26]  So these are just two of the thousands of uses for silver that will continue to skyrocket.
[00:05:34]  And if you look at the numbers, there is a shortage of ounces of silver.
[00:05:39]  So these are the things that I really dive into.
[00:05:42]  And I talk about the super cycle of assets.
[00:05:47]  There's going to be a super cycle here where You know, a lot of the world and a lot of these organizations and everyone out there saying, you know, you don't need to own anymore.
[00:05:55]  You don't need to own anything.
[00:05:56]  You can just rent.
[00:05:57]  You can just borrow.
[00:05:58]  And everything is renting and borrowing.
[00:06:00]  And I believe the exact opposite is that it's an asset economy.
[00:06:05]  You owning assets, owning things.
[00:06:08]  And the nice thing is you're owning things that are debt-free.
[00:06:11]  You know, once you buy this, there's no debt behind it.
[00:06:13]  Owning assets will protect you against...
[00:06:17]  It'll protect you against governments overreaching and trying to take too much of your money.
[00:06:22]  Really having assets protects you and creates wealth for the long term.
[00:06:26]  And so I dive into that in my book where I talk about silver.
[00:06:29]  And then I also give some tips on real estate, which I've also done, which parlays into really what I always talk about as being diversified, which I am.
[00:06:37]  I own lots of different types of assets, but I truly believe in real assets.
[00:06:43]  Gold and silver.
[00:06:44]  Good real estate.
[00:06:45]  Things that, you know, over time will go up and things that are irreplaceable.

=== Market Tariffs and Inflation (15:34) ===

[00:06:49]  And also, you know, Colin, it's wonderful how people are getting involved in crypto.
[00:06:56]  And it's wonderful that this and the Trump meme and Bitcoin, and that's exciting.
[00:07:01]  But there's this wonderful thing, too, is it may seem kind of old-fashioned.
[00:07:08]  But it's old-fashioned for a reason.
[00:07:11]  It's dependable that's here.
[00:07:12]  It's metals, but it's silver.
[00:07:14]  So again, one more thing.
[00:07:15]  This is the book, and I will have in the link how you can get this.
[00:07:19]  Believe me, this is not...
[00:07:20]  Listen, I've read some of these before, and you know it's true, Colin.
[00:07:24]  These are some snoozers.
[00:07:25]  This is a page-turner, and I won't tell you how it ends.
[00:07:29]  It's fine for dad or grad.
[00:07:31]  Wait till it comes to the drive-in.
[00:07:32]  Anyway, there's a role in here, for me, I understand, played by Danny DeVito.
[00:07:37]  Shouldn't let people know that.
[00:07:39]  But in any event, now let's talk about this.
[00:07:41]  You know, Colin, you might have heard there was an election recently.
[00:07:44]  And this guy, Trump, apparently is the president.
[00:07:46]  And already people are talking about tariffs.
[00:07:49]  And what is your take on the Trump administration and with his reign, as it were?
[00:07:56]  Well, yeah, I mean, there's a number of things.
[00:07:59]  And I think that you have to really look at every president has an economic strategy.
[00:08:06]  And his economic strategy...
[00:08:08]  The last guy, I don't know.
[00:08:11]  Right, right, right.
[00:08:13]  Yeah, I mean, some of the strategy is do nothing.
[00:08:16]  Yeah, some of the strategy is nothing.
[00:08:18]  But Trump's strategy is built from his business acumen.
[00:08:24]  And it's, you know, if you think about all the things he's already talked about and been doing, acquiring Poland, negotiating tariffs.
[00:08:32]  It's all to give us a business advantage through economic coercion.
[00:08:39]  We're trying to coerce people to do things, whereas the previous administration was really focused on...
[00:08:47]  You know, more in terms of spending money on war and trying to grow the U.S. in that way.
[00:08:53]  Like, we're going to give out aid, which means you're aligned with us, whereas Trump's less about getting into war.
[00:08:58]  He wants to get out of wars.
[00:08:58]  He knows that the cost is bad for us, and he really wants to focus on...
[00:09:03]  I'm going to talk to you about tariffs because you guys have had a strategic advantage.
[00:09:07]  You're making goods overseas at a reduced price.
[00:09:10]  And so we want to bring some of that money back here, some of that revenue back here.
[00:09:15]  And so he's said on February 1st he's going to have a 25% tariff for Canada and for Mexico.
[00:09:22]  And then obviously he's pushing with China to have a similar type tariff.
[00:09:27]  And these things, the idea of bringing more jobs back here and manufacturing, these are good ideas, but there is an effect.
[00:09:36]  And that's the thing that I always look at is like, well, as an individual that's an investor, how am I going to benefit from the next four years of these strategies?
[00:09:44]  And a high-growth, high-inflation strategy falls right in line with owning precious metals because you've got to think our debt is going to continue to go up.
[00:09:54]  We're going to have tremendous growth.
[00:09:56]  Hopefully, that's the idea.
[00:09:58]  But with this tremendous growth, there is a cost to this tremendous growth.
[00:10:02]  And so inflation is the likely scenario that we're going to run into.
[00:10:06]  And even if you look at the last report, the CPI report, we're at 2.7%.
[00:10:11]  So it hasn't slowed down.
[00:10:13]  The measures that we're putting into place would only increase inflation.
[00:10:17]  It wouldn't go down.
[00:10:19]  So things like gold and silver are going to do really well.
[00:10:22]  And I can tell you that The bond market and the markets are reacting in a way that they believe inflation is going to come because the 10-year Treasury note, which is assigned to bond traders, has gone up to one of its highest points in the last probably 25 years.
[00:10:37]  It's at almost 4.7%.
[00:10:39]  So that is an indication that investors are saying that...
[00:10:44]  Other assets are much riskier, and I'm going to put my money into bonds, right?
[00:10:48]  I mean, that's the only reason the 10-year would continue to go up.
[00:10:51]  The demand is really high.
[00:10:53]  And also, they believe the risk is high.
[00:10:56]  Like, we still have, with every this new jubilation and excitement, we still have this tremendous debt.
[00:11:02]  You know, we handed Trump $37 trillion debt bubble, right?
[00:11:06]  So how does anybody fix that?
[00:11:08]  And he's going to try the strategies that he believes, and I think some of them are good.
[00:11:13]  But they're going to have an effect on the stock market.
[00:11:17]  They're having an effect on the bond market.
[00:11:18]  And they're going to have an effect on the commodities market.
[00:11:21]  The other thing to keep in mind with Mexico...
[00:11:24]  25% tariff.
[00:11:26]  Most of the silver in the world is mined.
[00:11:29]  The majority of the silver in the world is mined in Mexico.
[00:11:32]  So if that happens and he tariffs the silver coming into this country, that means the cost to acquire silver in this country is going to go up by 25%.
[00:11:41]  Now, I don't know if these are going to happen.
[00:11:43]  Maybe February 1st is not going to happen.
[00:11:45]  But if you just took everything at face value, that means that silver could get...
[00:11:49]  It could get a lot more expensive.
[00:11:51]  And so if you're a buyer, if you're looking to get in the market, you're going to buy things now.
[00:11:56]  People are going to buy things before they go up.
[00:12:00]  So I think those are some of the things that I see happening that people are concerned about.
[00:12:05]  And then, as you probably know, living where you live...
[00:12:10]  The stock market and the markets hate this kind of volatility.
[00:12:14]  They want more stability.
[00:12:16]  And so the stock market's near an all-time high, and there's going to be a lot of measures that come out over the next year that could put the stock market in a bad place.
[00:12:27]  For instance, if he lays off all the people he's going to lay off, unemployment should go up pretty significantly.
[00:12:34]  And the markets...
[00:12:36]  They don't react well to higher unemployment.
[00:12:39]  That's one of the things.
[00:12:41]  We've had it pretty steady.
[00:12:42]  Now, I'm saying a lot of these jobs are probably jobs that should be getting rid of.
[00:12:46]  But who's going to replace those jobs?
[00:12:49]  Let me tell you what you do, Colin Plume, which I think is the most important.
[00:12:53]  You're not talking about...
[00:12:55]  You're not a political analyst.
[00:12:57]  You react to whatever he does.
[00:12:59]  If he does this, you react.
[00:13:01]  A, B, you sit back and you say, tell me what you're going to do and I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
[00:13:05]  You're not necessarily grading whether tariffs make sense.
[00:13:10]  Does he know what he's doing?
[00:13:11]  We're not talking about that.
[00:13:12]  Your job is to be reactive and to be able to plan investment strategies and the like and irrespective, let me hold this up again, silver is it.
[00:13:23]  And people, again, I'm going to put a link to this, because it's...
[00:13:28]  And I want to say this again.
[00:13:30]  There's something almost...
[00:13:31]  People have a resistance.
[00:13:33]  Like, it's not cool to talk about silver.
[00:13:36]  You know what I mean?
[00:13:36]  It's like, what are you, an idiot?
[00:13:38]  Did you just do what the man said?
[00:13:40]  This has happened the whole time.
[00:13:41]  The 16 years I've been in the business, that's always been the thing.
[00:13:44]  When I started gold, silver, like, what are you doing?
[00:13:47]  Why are you in that?
[00:13:48]  People would ask me why.
[00:13:49]  And then the last few years, everyone's...
[00:13:52]  Kind of changed their tune.
[00:13:54]  They understand it more now.
[00:13:56]  And I think that once the cat was out of the bag in terms of inflation, and you saw the Federal Reserve say, we had 9% inflation.
[00:14:05]  Once that happened, even though inflation was always higher than when they reported, but once people saw that, they saw electricity costs go up a few hundred percent and food costs go up dramatically, they started going, you know what?
[00:14:16]  Maybe gold does make sense.
[00:14:18]  Maybe silver is something.
[00:14:20]  I just think it's fundamentals of what we're looking at.
[00:14:24]  And I think that when you look at the charts of most of the wealth, like when I look at the stock market, it's still these top seven companies, right?
[00:14:33]  And a lot of it is based on AI.
[00:14:35]  A lot of it is based on the promise of AI.
[00:14:38]  And I think a lot of the AI will do things.
[00:14:42]  That are powerful and it will save us time and money.
[00:14:44]  And I think there's going to be about a 90% churn rate of a lot of AI programs that will do nothing.
[00:14:51]  And we're basing, the stock market today is based on a promise that has not been delivered.
[00:14:58]  And so that's the thing that always concerns me is that you look at the multiples for some of these companies.
[00:15:05]  I mean, they're trading at multiples that we haven't seen.
[00:15:08]  Since like the early 2000s, I mean, in terms of valuations, NVIDIA and a lot of these companies.
[00:15:13]  So these are things to keep in mind.
[00:15:17]  And I think that, you know, ultimately I do think a lot of the things that he's going to try to get past and try to do are going to be really beneficial long term.
[00:15:26]  I think the more government waste that we can get rid of, the idea that there may not be tax, I mean, it's a really exciting idea.
[00:15:33]  The thing that really concerns me is that...
[00:15:36]  Is he going to hold hard on tariffs and we still have tax?
[00:15:43]  If we just hold hard on tariffs and we don't reduce people's taxes, then they're just really paying more money for goods in the short term.
[00:15:51]  And that won't be a good thing.
[00:15:53]  And that won't, and it'll make people less likely to spend money, which is really what the economy grows on, right?
[00:16:00]  People spending and going out and, you know, this capitalistic, that's how you grow this economy is you get more entrepreneurs, you make more products, you bring it more here.
[00:16:08]  But, you know, if the cost of goods is going up pretty dramatically, we have to, we really do have to be careful of how that's going to work.
[00:16:15]  And, you know, as much as I, And I think it's exciting.
[00:16:29]  Also, at the end of the day, these guys are, they're entrepreneurs and they're capitalists.
[00:16:34]  And so we do have to be careful that, you know.
[00:16:38]  This whole good idea of them coming in to fix the country is really just another way for them to profit, right?
[00:16:47]  Oh, absolutely.
[00:16:49]  Listen, the other day, and by the way, we should also change something.
[00:16:53]  I like to think about what we're talking about.
[00:16:55]  Not to be punny, Colin, but what we're talking about is fundamentals.
[00:17:02]  Think about what we're doing.
[00:17:03]  You can use it.
[00:17:04]  I'm sure it's been said before.
[00:17:06]  You can talk about all that great stuff, but the fundamentals never change.
[00:17:12]  By the way, the other day we were talking about TikTok.
[00:17:14]  Do you think for one minute?
[00:17:16]  Mark Zuckerberg, if you can't read that, I don't want to get into that.
[00:17:21]  The point is, I'm not trying to be...
[00:17:23]  I'm happy.
[00:17:25]  Personally, I hope the country's on its way.
[00:17:27]  But, bottom line is simply this.
[00:17:29]  Somebody's watching right now and says, alright, I want to get involved in this.
[00:17:31]  What do I do?
[00:17:32]  First of all, I'm going to go and I'm going to get this book and we're going to have a link to Amazon.
[00:17:35]  The book is absolutely fascinating because I never realized how important silver was.
[00:17:40]  I swear, I don't know why.
[00:17:42]  Silver and gold, silver was like the stepchild.
[00:17:45]  Yeah, you never thought about it.
[00:17:47]  Yeah, that's the whole thing.
[00:17:49]  Uh, it's an industrial metal.
[00:17:51]  That's a necessity.
[00:17:52]  Um, yeah.
[00:17:52]  How do they get involved?
[00:17:53]  So basically, I mean, in essence, what you're doing is, and I, and I like the visual of it is just, is like, you're turning this right into this.
[00:18:01]  And I, and I remember when I, you know, when I started the business in 2007, you know, this idea gold was sitting around $800 an ounce, right?
[00:18:10]  This was, so that's what this, this is pretty close.
[00:18:13]  It's like 800 bucks.
[00:18:14]  This is $800.
[00:18:15]  This was eight, this was $800.
[00:18:16]  Right.
[00:18:17]  And Fast forward to now, you know, these dollars are worth a lot less.
[00:18:22]  I mean, imagine, just remember what you could buy in 2008, how much you could buy.
[00:18:26]  This is worth, you know, it's almost going to hit its all-time high, $2,700 an ounce.
[00:18:30]  So you're just transferring one medium of exchange into another one, right?
[00:18:35]  And that's really what you're doing.
[00:18:37]  This is the oldest money of the world.
[00:18:40]  It's been around for 5,000 years.
[00:18:42]  And so we help you do that.
[00:18:44]  We help you, whatever it's in the stock market, in a 401k, an IRA, or you have cash.
[00:18:49]  We help you move from fiat or equities into a tangible investment.
[00:18:55]  And that's all we do.
[00:18:57]  We don't do anything else.
[00:18:59]  This is our focus.
[00:19:00]  So if you want us to store metal or we ship it to you, whatever you want us to do, we can do it.
[00:19:04]  If you want us to do an IRA, we'll do that.
[00:19:06]  But we're your partner in this very specific thing that we do.
[00:19:12]  Since I've been at this company, we started Noble Gold almost nine years.
[00:19:16]  We've sold over $2 billion in gold and silver.
[00:19:19]  We've shipped well over a billion dollars in gold and silver.
[00:19:23]  We obviously store metal for people too.
[00:19:26]  It's funny.
[00:19:27]  I had a guy recently ask me, tell me about the shipping.
[00:19:30]  Do they get lost?
[00:19:31]  Do they get this?
[00:19:33]  During COVID, we had some situations because The UPS and FedEx guys didn't want to go all the way to the door because they were worried about catching COVID.
[00:19:40]  Right.
[00:19:41]  And it's terrible.
[00:19:43]  They would, like, kind of put it on the doorstep and then run, right, kind of away.
[00:19:46]  Since then, knock on wood, I mean, we have a very unique process of how we ship and how we keep in touch with you.
[00:19:53]  And really, it's almost too much.
[00:19:56]  We keep calling and reminding you and texting you.
[00:19:59]  But we haven't had anything happen in many years.
[00:20:01]  And it's because we take this so serious.
[00:20:05]  You send us money.
[00:20:06]  We're going to get it to you.
[00:20:07]  We're going to get you the right medal.
[00:20:08]  And then when you want to get out of it, we had a client this year, or excuse me, last year, that wanted to transition from one medal to the other.
[00:20:16]  And he had made almost a million dollars profit with us.
[00:20:21]  And he started buying right at the beginning of COVID.
[00:20:24]  So he made a million dollars and he wanted to switch out.
[00:20:26]  So we handled that metal-to-metal exchange for him, handled it very smoothly and easily.
[00:20:31]  So whether you're coming in or going out, we help you.
[00:20:34]  And I think in today's world...
[00:20:37]  That is really important.
[00:20:38]  You want a two-way street with a reputable company in the industry.
[00:20:42]  So when you make a big profit, you want to be able to take that profit too, right?
[00:20:46]  And so we were able to help that client able to do that.
[00:20:50]  And that's who we are.
[00:20:51]  We're on the phone, old school like you.
[00:20:53]  You take a phone call.
[00:20:55]  You talk to people.
[00:20:56]  We don't have an app.
[00:20:58]  You're talking to a live person, and we make sure that you're up.
[00:21:02]  Let me tell you something.
[00:21:03]  Your response, your ratings are through the roof.
[00:21:08]  You know, this is brutal.
[00:21:10]  People are jerks today.
[00:21:12]  I mean, you can be 90% great, and somebody's like, son of a bitch!
[00:21:17]  So when your numbers are high, that means you're godlike.
[00:21:22]  And the next thing, imagine somebody trying to be a porch pirate.
[00:21:28]  With gold.
[00:21:29]  And he grabs his box and he's wondering, what the hell is this?
[00:21:33]  Yeah, because we make everyone sign for the package, Lionel.
[00:21:36]  But what was happening in COVID is that they didn't want to wait for this.
[00:21:40]  And they were doing things outside of our agreement with them.
[00:21:43]  So I just want to be clear.
[00:21:44]  You do have to sign for the package.
[00:21:46]  You do have to show your ID.
[00:21:48]  It was, you know, obviously a wild time in the world.
[00:21:51]  Well, that turned out to be a flop.
[00:21:53]  In any event, I don't want to get into that.
[00:21:55]  But let me also tell you something.
[00:21:56]  There is something about holding gold or silver.
[00:22:01]  Holding it.
[00:22:03]  Remember the picture recently?
[00:22:04]  We had New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez.

=== Gold Bars Betrayal (01:57) ===

[00:22:07]  And they showed gold bars.
[00:22:10]  And people looked at it like, what's that?
[00:22:12]  It's like, he's not a...
[00:22:13]  Pirate ship.
[00:22:15]  They have these.
[00:22:17]  Colin, you can't believe the people said, really?
[00:22:20]  He said, yes!
[00:22:21]  The kilo bar was the bar that he received, actually.
[00:22:25]  This is a kilo.
[00:22:26]  And I did a whole story about this on my YouTube channel that I was talking about how when he got it for his bribe, it was worth like $65,000.
[00:22:34]  And by the time he got indicted, it was worth $80,000.
[00:22:38]  And I showed the analogy that...
[00:22:40]  Half-joking that if you're going to take a bribe, take it in gold because it goes up more than the dollar.
[00:22:45]  But yeah, this was exactly what he bought, was a kilo of...
[00:22:49]  What is that worth right there, right now?
[00:22:51]  Right now, what's that worth?
[00:22:52]  This is worth about close to $80,000, yeah.
[00:22:56]  I don't know why that...
[00:22:58]  It's heavy.
[00:23:00]  Yeah.
[00:23:01]  It's heavy.
[00:23:02]  It better be heavy or else it ain't gold.
[00:23:06]  And then he bought Colin Plume.
[00:23:08]  Always a pleasure.
[00:23:09]  It has always been so great to work with you.
[00:23:13]  Everybody loves you.
[00:23:15]  Let me just go through this again.
[00:23:16]  The book is called Silver is the New Oil.
[00:23:19]  And we're going to have this available, a link.
[00:23:21]  I recommend this heartily because not only that, you learn so much about something that you never thought about.
[00:23:28]  Just metals and metalism and the like.
[00:23:31]  So that's that.
[00:23:32]  Also...
[00:23:34]  LionelNationGold.com.
[00:23:35]  That's the link.
[00:23:36]  If you call 877-646-5347, make sure you saw us.
[00:23:43]  Make sure you mention Lionel Nation because that means a lot so that they know where this is coming from.
[00:23:48]  And always, my friend, I wish you nothing but the best.
[00:23:51]  Let's talk again.
[00:23:52]  Right off the bat, 2025 is going to be a great, great year for so many people.
[00:23:57]  And it is always a pleasure, my dear friend, Colin Bloom from Noble Gold Investments.
[00:24:01]  Have a great day, sir, and thank you.