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June 13, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Why No One's Buying Kevin Spacey's Piers Morgan Interview
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I don't believe anything Kevin Spacey said at all with Piers Morgan.
Okay?
I don't.
Let me explain to you why.
Let's imagine I'm doing a closing argument and I'm telling you why you as a juror should disregard everything he has said.
Which is what you do in a closing argument.
That's why it's an argument.
You're arguing regarding the weight of the evidence.
You're saying what should be believed and what shouldn't be believed.
Alright?
Good.
Now, it works like this.
First, What is the reason?
What would be the motivation?
This is one of the bases to impeach a witness.
Impeach means to affect credibility.
Why would Kevin Spacey go on TV in the world and say, guess what?
I am broke.
I am on the balls of my arse.
I have nothing.
I am teetering on bankruptcy.
I've lost, I think it was like eight or nine separate...
Successfully, by the way.
He's been very successful in civil and criminal charges for a variety of untoward activities.
And of those, I have been successful.
That's what he would say.
But I have to liquidate everything.
And now we find that he has had a flat in London.
Or not a flat, but a place in London.
L.A., Baltimore.
Okay, fine.
That's number one.
Why is somebody...
Who was trying to get back on the horse, as he said.
Why would he, or why would his agent, or anybody in the business, who I'm sure would offer him advice, say, go on TV and look desperate.
When was the last time you ever saw anybody?
Anybody.
Tori Spelling, even, or...
Val Kilmer.
I'm trying to think of some classic, terrible examples of people who have really been either destitute or on the verge.
Never!
Can you imagine Clint Eastwood doing that?
No!
So, first of all, who does this?
Hollywood, and let's just use that term collectively, is about illusion.
And the creation of an image, the creation of a feel.
Of his invincibility.
He is Underwood.
He is Kaiser Sose.
Whatever.
Why would you do this?
Next, what does this do to your asking price?
If you say, okay, I've got a movie coming up.
I may, in a weird way, want him because people are going to want to see what he looks like after...
This tremendous fall from grace.
But now that he's told me he's desperate, now that he told me he has nothing, I'm going to offer him a half or a third of what I would normally because I know he's desperate.
So why would you undercut your sale ability?
What agent, if he has one, would ever advise him of that?
Okay?
That's that.
Why would you go on Piers Morgan?
Did you hear him on Lex Friedman?
That was good.
It was very good.
In fact, that's the way to do it.
He was most impressed if he was talking about being an actor.
The way to make people forget what you have done is to not talk about what you have done.
Kevin Spacey was talking about acting and how he played Richard III and it was great.
And I thought to myself, you know what?
I even told my wife, I said, you know, you want to see this.
This is, he acquits himself.
He speaks rather elliptically, you know, to the particular charges, but I thought he was excellent.
Then we have Piers Morgan.
Piers Morgan, spoiler alert, is a hack.
He's Geraldo Rivera with a phony, posh British accent.
He's a tackling dummy.
He's a rodeo clown.
Low-hanging fruit.
Clicks, viral videos, sensationalism.
What are you doing going on his show?
He has no interest in anything but...
He wants that Shmuley Botiak moment.
He wants the screams.
He wants the yells.
He wants something where somebody is embarrassed.
What were you thinking?
Whatever you thought you may have...
And by the way, the Lex Friedman interview is phenomenal.
And Lex Friedman is phenomenal.
He's one of the best things on digital platforming today.
But, instead you go on to this hack.
He's a tackling dummy.
He's a jadrool.
He's a low-hanging fruit.
He's a, as they would say, Downtown, he's a chooch.
He's a fool.
But you fell for that.
Next.
Why are you talking about trips you took with Clinton on a certain plane with a certain person whose name we can't mention here?
Did you know he was going to bring that up?
Yes.
Did you think about the questionnaire?
Apparently not.
Why are you talking about this?
Here's one for you.
Mr. Morgan, as you know, and always do this, as you know, whether somebody knows it or not, you can say, as you know, especially with your experience.
As you know, one can never be sure.
In terms of pending civil and criminal cases, that may still have some degree of life to them.
I would want to do nothing to deliberately or inadvertently revivify those charges and challenges by virtue of saying something that would do nothing but rekindle, reiterate, revitalize.
Charges against me, accusations against me, investigations against me by virtue of discussions of that person whose name I will not mention.
So as you can tell, Mr. Morgan, is it?
As you can tell, sir, it's in everybody's best sense, especially me, after I've been 100% successful in acquitting myself, literally, For me not to discuss this.
So what's the point of you going on?
Because then he gets to this other stuff.
Are you aware of any airplane flights you took with Bill Clinton?
And that's it.
I said, that's it.
He's done.
He's finished.
Because don't you understand something?
When you try to explain that, you come across as a fool.
And no one believes you.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
No one believes you.
Because in order to believe you, we have to believe you're an idiot.
I don't know who these people were.
I don't know who these people on the plane were.
I don't know.
I'm just there with President Clinton and we're doing some good things for the Clinton Foundation in Africa.
I don't know if there were a number of Nubile sylphs who seem to be out of the ordinary.
I am sorry.
I don't know what to say.
I'm not really sure.
I'm not...
What are you, an idiot?
You don't think that on the way over, when you talk to Clinton, Clinton says, listen, I want you to know something.
We're flying over with such and such.
I want you to meet him.
I want you to meet him.
This particular person, whose name we cannot mention, was so well known in New York, everybody could not wait to go to a dinner party with him and his confidant and Gal Friday and Paramore or whatever she was.
Everybody knew this.
I saw him.
He was walking all over the place.
Eastside, one time he was a friend of Bergdorf Goodman, wore the same thing.
A lot.
Because when I saw pictures of him later on, I said that's what he was wearing then.
Everybody wanted to know him.
Go to his Meetings.
Everybody knew all about him.
Every piece of property he ever had, including that plane, was a recording studio.
And Bill Clinton has access to the Secret Service.
And the Secret Service has access to every living, breathing version of an intel service and office on the planet.
They know exactly who he is.
And I think we all know where all of those interesting recordings were, but we'll talk about that later.
Not now.
There are people listening, if you know what I mean.
So don't tell me you don't know this.
You come across, nobody believes you.
And as far as crying goes, let me see this.
You are a two-time Academy Award winner, Oscar winner, Best Supporting Actor, In Usual Suspects, Best Actor in American Beauty.
You were the production manager of the Vic in England.
You did Shakespeare, Richard III.
You are an actor.
Your role in life is to give breath and life to other people's thoughts and words.
You are A professional liar.
That's what an actor is.
A liar.
A trained liar who can lie, call acting, using other people's words, other people's stories, other people's presentations.
This is what you do.
So when you cry, first, It is most unmanly.
You heard me.
It's a term which nobody uses anymore.
Can you imagine Bruce or Clint Eastwood crying?
Woody Allen wasn't crying.
I don't even think Alec Baldwin was crying.
I think he was upset about something, but he doesn't cry.
What is this crying business?
What is this, some show of sensitivity?
Look, you may think that we live in a world that Appreciates and encourages frailty, downing a handful of edibles and petting your therapy ferret or whatever it is.
Maybe you think we like that.
Nobody does.
And when you're on screen, when you're trying to play a tough guy or...
Whatever it is.
They're going to remember this with you and Piers Morgan.
And by the way, Piers Morgan is as dumb as rocks.
Remember this.
See, Americans have this thing where we love British accents.
I mean, we just think they're great.
There are things, for some reason, I don't know why, we think that British accents somehow contain And are appended to a concomitant form of respect, of erudition, insincerity.
You'll see.
But even the Brits, with a stiff upper lip, will know that a man lacrimating and crying comes across as most insincere.
Most, shall we say.
Inauthentic, I should say.
So I'm not buying any of it.
That was the dumbest thing you've ever done.
And I used to respect you as an actor, as a, you know.
And by the way, everything they said about him, they've been saying about him for years.
For years.
I'll leave it at that.
What do you think?
Am I being too harsh?
Or do you agree with everything I'm saying?
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