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Jan. 31, 2024 - Lionel Nation

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Despicable Media Victim E. Jean Carroll Vows Shoe Shopping After Her $83M Defamation Award

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	Say what you want about E. Jean Carroll.
	She's an idiot.
	Say what you want.
	She's an idiot.
	She is daft.
	She is a nightmare.
	If you thought Trump was a bad client, she's a bad client.
	I hate stupid.
	And I can't believe that these lawyers who represented E. Jean Carroll would not sit down with her the same way they don't sit down with Trump and tell her, we're going to show you what a victim looks like.
	What a victim looks like.
	We're going to show you.
	We're going to show you because you don't know.
	You want to be a star.
	That's all you're interested in being.
	You're killing us.
	There are two aspects to this case.
	You had a sexual abuse rape trial.
	It wasn't really rape, but it was sexual abuse.
	This was your first This was your first case, okay?
	You got $5 million for that.
	For the assault and the defamation.
	$5 million!
	Now, that's a lot.
	The jury said it wasn't rape because it was a penetration, but there might have been some type of digital malfeasance, and okay, fine.
	Trump, because he's an idiot, And of course, his acolytes, just whatever he does, it's 4-D chess, and he's a genius.
	Okay, so the genius, he decides to keep it up.
	So he pisses the jury off so much, so much, that they take a $5 million verdict and turn it into an $83.3 million verdict.
	Okay?
	Now, as you know, things happen to people on TV.
	Things happen when you don't take enough pains to sit down with your client.
	When you don't sit down with your client and you don't sit there and say, now understand something.
	You have got to understand that you have to.
	To act the part.
	Jean, you're a loon.
	You always have been.
	You're wacky.
	You're media.
	And that's not to be disparaging.
	She's a loon.
	She's part of the media.
	Just turn on any TV show.
	So she goes on a TV show and you have three cackling loons.
	No, four.
	With the biggest cackler, Rachel Maddow, who has the most insincere, inappropriate, guffaw, cackenation, this cackling...
	I know that's Hen referencing you.
	Somebody's going to claim sexist...
	Well, whatever you want to call it.
	She's always been like this.
	She had years ago.
	I think one of the last times I watched it, she had some guy on her show who would make cocktails.
	Remember when her whole thing was, I make cocktails?
	And this guy would come on and she would laugh the same way Jerry Seinfeld laughs when he does that stupid cars and comedians and the coffee, when he just, every joke, every comedian, every moment is the height, the quintessence of...
	Comedic genius where he's slapping his knee and he's tired.
	Bill Hader cannot get through a question.
	He talks about how he laughed.
	Just uncontrollable laughter.
	Why?
	It's part of our new society.
	Uncontrollable anger.
	Uncontrollable depression.
	Uncontrollable obstinacy.
	We're just uncontrolled.
	But laughing.
	So she goes on with, and I can't believe this, her lawyer has always been, I thought, Roberta Kaplan, who was, I thought, always one of the really top-notch, sober, Kind of a stoic, respected lawyer.
	And she's on with, I guess, her co-counsel, Sean Crowley.
	And Rachel is laughing!
	This is a rape victim!
	This is a rape victim who was vindicated!
	Who represents victims of sexual abuse?
	This is what I would have told them.
	You know, be sincere whether you mean it or not.
	She goes on TV and it's the most incredible thing in the world.
	Daily Mail does this.
	E. Jean Carroll E. Jean Carroll had to be restrained by her lawyer as she Briefly itemized how she plans to spend her $83.3 million defamation award against Donald Trump.
	The author had promised to help victims with her multi-million dollar payout.
	Oh, go back and read this.
	This is a vindication for the women.
	The author had a promise to help other victims with a multi-million dollar payout, but had a more worldly wish list as she was quizzed by Rachel Maddow.
	Quote, first thing, Rachel, you and I are going to go shopping.
	We're going to get completely new wardrobes, new shoes.
	What do you want?
	It's yours, Rachel!
	That's a joke, laughed lawyer Sean Crowley, nervously sitting next to her.
	Thank you, counselor, for at least realizing, holy shit!
	Shut up!
	The GOP presidential frontrunner has insisted he will appeal against Friday's award, which he branded absolutely ridiculous.
	And there may be something to this.
	We've already been through the legal aspects of it.
	You might want to argue the excessive, whether they're going to look at whether the multiplicative factor of punies, punitive damages, okay, fine.
	They have taken away all American First Amendment rights, he wrote on a true social, okay, blah, blah, blah.
	And the, I mean, this is incredible.
	Rachel Maddow asked E.G. Carroll, what's she going to do with Trump's money to help women's rights?
	Carroll says she and Maddow will go shopping!
	Get completely new wardrobes, new shoes!
	Rachel, what do you want?
	Penthouse?
	This is the victim!
	This is the victim!
	And I love this.
	Carroll's outburst was met with a scathing response from MAGA supporters.
	Talk to a real rape victim.
	Yes.
	They never laugh about anything regarding the rape or the conviction.
	This is vile, MSNBC.
	Absolutely.
	Women who have never...
	See, this is where there is no trolling.
	This is where the right, they don't have their Saul Alinsky's.
	They don't have their anything.
	They're not in the street.
	They don't march.
	They don't shut anything down.
	I would have had every conceivable.
	I would have bought time.
	I would have said, Elon, you're going to let us do this.
	I would have women standing up.
	Women.
	People with visible scars, people with glass eyes, people with prosthetic limbs, women who have been, and not only rape, but women who are victims of sexual battery, women who have been a part of this all over the world, have them come forward and say, are you going to take us shopping?
	Can we go shopping?
	Can I go shopping for a new prosthetic arm?
	Can I go shopping for a new, for some place to live because I haven't been able to work because of my PTSD?
	Would you buy shoes for my kids?
	Would you look at kids all over the world?
	In this era of sexual abuse, Epstein, go through the list, and this woman says, we're going to go shopping!
	Hey, girl!
	I'm going to take you shopping!
	And Roberta Kaplan's thinking, oh no, I hope she's thinking this.
	I would have loved to have taken this E. Gene Carroll back to the office, locked the door and say, what?
	You just blew it.
	You just blew it.
	And they should have rape victims all over the world come forward and say, that's not funny.
	But there's not going to be any reaction.
	There's not going to be any reaction from the right because there is no right.
	They've never figured out how to do anything but a meme.
	Or a gif, or some kind of a little, you know, whatever it is.
	We need more than, bless his heart, Cat Turd.
	We need more than just Tucker.
	This group of inside, like the National Lampoon crowd.
	Remember National Lampoon?
	National Lampoon was the greatest comedy magazine ever that nobody read.
	Nobody read.
	But it was inside, and if you read it, it was cool.
	Because the inside hipsters, we read it, but most people didn't.
	They weren't mad or cracked or something like that.
	You know how this thing goes?
	But this is a different story.
	They should have women just one by one showing this.
	Look at the ravages of this.
	You know these women that they find inside homes?
	Who have been kept, I mean, chained and trafficked here in this country?
	You've got Vince McMahon, you've got Epstein, and you've got this story which a lot of people still say, now tell me this again?
	Donald Trump walked into a Bergdorf Goodman.
	What?
	I've got to calm down.
	Listen, if you want to hear more of this stuff, I know this is perhaps a strange segue, but I've got to find venues to speak my mind so people can hear what I have to say that are not necessarily limited by a bunch of folks who can find new ways to find out something perhaps that's offensive.
	What we're saying because we love to be offended in our country.
	So this coming Saturday, tickets are still available.
	You want to hear me talk about this?
	Good.
	If you think this is good, and it is, there ain't nothing like being in a room with cocktails and food with a bunch of similar-minded people and we get to speak.
	And by the way, it's not conservative.
	It's not Republican.
	It's not right-wing.
	It's not MAGA.
	It's not...
	When you talk to an oncologist, he tries to cure cancer.
	Or she.
	They try to cure cancer.
	That's their thing.
	They cure cancer.
	What I'm trying to do is to cure this thing called...
	Radical left woke lunacy.
	Because our country is dying.
	It is dying.
	Do you hear what I'm saying?
	And the only thing available, the only chemotherapy available is Donald Trump.
	What is chemotherapy?
	Chemotherapy is poison.
	Chemotherapy will kill you if you don't need it.
	You give somebody tamoxifen for no particular reason, like, what are you doing?
	What are you doing?
	This is going to kill somebody.
	He has cancer.
	Oh.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, different story.
	That's Trump.
	And people don't seem to understand this.
	They don't get it.
	They don't follow it.
	I don't know how this works.
	I don't know how people misunderstand these things, but it doesn't seem to work.
	It doesn't seem to work.
	Now let me explain something to you.
	I'm going to go back again.
	E. Jean Carroll, sad to say, you've got to understand something.
	Every single day, Of my life.
	Mrs. L does one thing on Lens Warriors, on everything.
	It's her non-profit, Lens Warriors.
	It's radio.
	She goes on radio all over the world.
	The other day somebody said, well, we've got this thing.
	Would you like to come on?
	Yes, if it helps.
	Well, it might be two in the morning your time.
	Fine.
	Whatever it is, it doesn't matter.
	And we live in this world.
	We live in this incredible, demented, sick world of the most vile, the most vile behavior.
	I cannot tell you, and I'm just her loving husband, of course, I'm her fan, I'm like the administrative agent.
	We have been through annual fundraisers, and we've been, we went one time to a, we had to go to a place, not had to go, but it was in the Queens, it was like a juice bar that was kind of off the beaten path, because a lot of these women who have been trafficked and who have been, they don't trust a lot of people.
	And it's got to be closeness.
	You've got to be approved.
	They've been exploited by everybody.
	And there are people who want to exploit their own victimization.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, this is the biggest thing in the world.
	You can't believe it.
	There are these new internet hotties, you know, milfs and gilfs and all these people who figure, hey, this is great.
	I can go on and I can talk about pedo.
	Pedos, that's not what we're talking about.
	We're talking about to go in to a soul.
	What makes you human?
	What makes you human?
	Your laughter, your memory, your compassion.
	Who was it?
	Finkelstein even reminds us of this in Rousseau's second whatever he said.
	The thing that makes Humans, humans.
	The things that make us who we are is this thing called pity.
	The ability to be not only empathic, but sympathetic.
	I have seen this.
	You have no idea the level, this world of horror.
	Just like America doesn't know what's going on in Israel, I don't think the world knows what's going on with kids and children and rape.
	And it's been like this, but not like this because social media changed everything.
	So with all that in mind, here she is.
	I'm going to go on it.
	I'm going to help.
	If I ran this show, E. Jean Carroll.
	She would be on every...
	She would say, I'm going to do a tour.
	What is she?
	80s?
	I don't know how old she is.
	I would say, I'm going to spend my life...
	I'm going to go to college campuses.
	I'm going to go to...
	We're going to start a foundation.
	We're going to do this stuff.
	Spend your money.
	It's okay.
	You know, this whole thing about you want to buy shoes, okay, you've been through a lot.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	That's not the issue.
	That's not the issue.
	The issue is being able to take this and say, I'm going to do something nobody's ever seen before.
	They are going to love me by virtue of my work.
	And my deeds.
	And we're going to do things.
	I'm not going to do an Oprah.
	I'm going to help all these kids.
	Hey, what about that?
	Well, whatever.
	Remember Michelle Obama?
	Bring back our girls.
	Remember when she held that sign at Boko Haram?
	Remember that?
	Bring back a little pout.
	Whatever happened with those girls?
	I don't know.
	Do it.
	Do it.
	This is so...
	And Rachel Maddow.
	You idiot!
	You're supposed to be so smart, you know, Rhodes Scholar.
	She's so doctor.
	Oh, she's so brilliant.
	And how I can't believe how Roberta Kaplan didn't say, look, Gene, I know who you are.
	We're going to ask Solomon, I'm going to either give you medication, we're going to slow you down.
	She actually did this!
	She had to have her real housewives moment.
	She couldn't let it go.
	There was a story.
	I've got to tell you this one.
	This is the best one ever.
	Well, I shouldn't say that.
	There is a woman, remain nameless, who's out there who's trying to say, I'm going to go out and I'm going to help women.
	Okay, here we go.
	Here we go.
	And I want to do whatever.
	I don't want to get too much into the message because you'll know maybe who it is by virtue of the targeted message.
	So how does she reach out?
	How does she relate to women?
	She does a video from her shoe closet.
	Most women don't have A closet or areas dedicated to shoes and bags, but these are shoes with lighted fixtures highlighting her Louboutins or whatever the hell it is.
	This is the mentality!
	You schmuck!
	You schmuck!
	You're supposed to...
	What are you doing?
	You're trying to show, hey, I'm one of the girls.
	No!
	Because you're a mindless, soulless, vacuous, empty vessel.
	There's no humanity to you, and you don't even understand the opportunity you're given, you schmuck!
	Putz!
	Trying to get as many Yiddish jadrool!
	What is the matter?
	You're a Boeotian.
	You're an Icona, a Dimwit, a Dullard.
	It's so stupid.
	Think about what I'm saying.
	Hi, gals.
	There was a woman here, another one, another one, who all of a sudden, I'm going to be a mommy blog.
	We're going to do a mommy blog.
	This is when mommy blogs.
	Remember when...
	What was that thing called, honey?
	Remember that before...
	This is how long we've been doing this.
	Before YouTube, it was this radio blog where you called in and you...
	Anyway.
	Blog Talk Radio.
	Remember when this first started?
	We've been through the...
	And this woman, she says, I'm going to go on.
	I'm going to be a monk.
	Now her kids are already like in college and she doesn't...
	Because she's just full of shit.
	Which is half of the time.
	Pardon my French, but that's exactly what she was.
	So she comes up with this completely artificial synthetic world that she's a mom.
	She is about as much as a mom as this is a nuclear reactor.
	She has a kid, but she has no heart.
	She has no soul.
	Doesn't even love her kids.
	She loves her.
	And she uses this as a showcase for her.
	Because for some reason, there are so many people who all their lives wanted to be ginger.
	They wanted to be...
	You know, Marianna Ginger, they wanted to be like a chanteuse, or they wanted to be a...
	Remember when Jennifer Flowers, remember that?
	One time, Jennifer Flowers, it was on WABC, she was, I'll never forget, I did an interview, and she was supposed to be at Macy's, and I said, who wants to hear from some two-big chanteuse wannabe?
	What did you do?
	What did you do?
	You had sex with Bill Clinton.
	I don't want to get too much into the weeds here, but the number of people who want to be famous because they stooped some famous guy or gal years ago.
	That doesn't entitle you to anything because people want to be famous.
	You idiot!
	Be famous with the cause.
	But she couldn't do it.
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	This woman who was defamed, ridiculed, reduced to absolute nothing.
	This woman who is devoid of any...
	Kind of self-worth by virtue of the attack, the degradation, all I want is my good name back.
	Hey, let's go shopping!
	And Rachel Maddow in that laugh, that insincere, maybe she was caught off guard, maybe she thought, oh my god, I don't know what the hell I'm doing here.
	Maybe, maybe, maybe.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It blows my mind.
	And lest you think that I've got this only, my wrath is only targeted towards her, I've been saying the same thing about Trump.
	Trump was a schmuck from the beginning because what Trump did was he decided, and I can't believe this, Trump decided that he Was going to go after the judge and go after a defamation.
	You should have ignored her.
	Same thing with Trump's lawyer.
	Remember that?
	She goes off and she's trashing the judge whom she will be directing a motion to, either seeking remit or review or to lower the...
	The verdict.
	I mean, this is where we are today.
	Something happens.
	You get on social media, you go on TV, and you lose your mind.
	Can't you be an actress?
	Can't you just be an actress?
	Can't you just be smart enough to realize, I'm going to do things the wrong way.
	I'm going to use my head.
	They're going to love me.
	I'm going to get my money.
	I'm going to get my closets.
	I'm going to get my stuff and all that jazz.
	But I'm going to do this the right way.
	I want people to go.
	And by the way, she also made a lot of enemies among the anti-MAGA crowd.
	Who look at her and say, thanks, you could have helped our cause, but you blew it.
	You blew it.
	You were a part of this, not trifecta, but this quartet, this quintet, this septet of litigation and lawsuits, and you were the one that people were looking to as another reason to vote against Trump, and now they end up hating you because you're laughing about this.
	Please go see this.
	Please, let me give you this.
	You have to see this.
	Here is the link.
	Daily Mail is just the best.
	Daily Mail just rewrote how it's done.
	There we go.
	I don't understand this.
	Watch this.
	This is the most important thing.
	And by the way, today, ladies and gentlemen, Donna, here's the story, dear Donna.
	I was going to talk about something else about bread and circuses, but I saw this this morning.
	I said, no, I've got to change this.
	I've got to talk about this.
	I am furious on it.
	And one of the things that is...
	One of the things that's the most fascinating to me is when somebody does something, not only that, I mean, there's nothing illegal, but how people can be so stupid.
	There's an expression.
	It's a joke.
	Be sincere whether you mean it or not.
	It's an old joke, okay?
	And what it means is The part.
	Act it.
	Everybody expects you to act the way you can still get the message across.
	You'll do even better.
	Know how to act.
	For example, the Academy Award.
	Thank you very much.
	I am so honored by this.
	This is my Trump Academy Award.
	I'm so honored by this.
	This is part of my Trump collection, which is going to be in the museum one day.
	I have more memorabilia.
	When I'd go to Washington, I swear to God, I went to the White House gift shop.
	I bought everything.
	I got stuff.
	I don't know why.
	It'll be worth something one day.
	On behalf of, I want to thank my director, Martin Scorsese.
	The incredible cast and crew that I worked with, who worked just indefatigably, tirelessly to make this one of the best.
	I could not have done any of this without them.
	It's a wonderful story.
	It's a wonderful script.
	And it's about a tremendous message.
	I am so proud of this.
	And I accept this on behalf of my fellow actors, producers, and for those individuals from the craft services to the grips to you name it, I'm here and I thank you.
	That's what you do.
	Whether you mean it or not!
	You could have said, I did this!
	This is me!
	I did it!
	But nobody wants to hear that, but that might be what you want to say.
	Ramona, he says, look at this.
	Please tell Lynn to look up.
	Okay, we will do that.
	Thank you.
	I don't know what we're looking up, but terrific.
	I have a very weird feeling.
	I'm very, very...
	I don't know what the word is.
	I'm very careful sometimes about people who recommend certain things.
	I don't know, especially if I'm not familiar with it.
	There's a lot of folks out there that I find a bit problematic.
	That's all I want to say.
	I don't want to get too much into detail, but thank you for that.
	I appreciate that.
	There is something which is the most important about looks, about how people act.
	It was a guy years ago.
	You probably don't know his name.
	His name is...
	Thank you, Ramona, by the way.
	His name was Santo Traficante.
	And Santo Traficante was from Tampa, my hometown.
	And he was, by all accounts, one of the most powerful mobsters, gangsters, a part of maybe the Kennedy hit, it was alleged.
	Frank Regano, Carlos Marcello, he was...
	This guy was as big.
	I mean, as big as, if you believe this, and he used to walk over, drive around, not John Gotti style, he was old school, OG, literally.
	I remember one time I was at a pharmacy, and I'm looking over, and he's standing right there, and this is this guy, he's just...
	Wore a little hat.
	He wore one of those Norman Lear hats, kind of.
	Not the pork pie up, but the down.
	That's all he wore.
	He'd go into court and he'd shuffle around.
	He'd wear like a sweater.
	He'd look like your grandfather, Carlo Gambino.
	He, not John Gotti, no.
	He would never do a YouTube.
	Never do a video.
	Never!
	Never!
	But they knew his idea was I'm going to look at this for the bigger message.
	But not today.
	Not today.
	Listen to what I'm saying.
	And I know I'm wasting my time because when I talk, nobody listens to me.
	Nobody.
	For reasons I will never know.
	But maybe if Don Jr. got off his ass with his girlfriend, picked up the phone and said, I want you to do me a favor.
	I don't know how we do this.
	I want the best production team.
	And I want you to put a E. Jean Carroll on one side of the screen talking about, and I'm going to buy you a car, and you, you know, I'm a penthouse, Rachel.
	Rachel Maddow wears black.
	So going clothes shopping, she and Johnny Cash would be very easy to go buy.
	Anyway.
	They should have that with pictures of girls.
	Scars.
	Prosthetics.
	Terror.
	PTSD.
	Shelters.
	Do you know how many shelters there are?
	Maybe in your town of women who live In fear of their abusers finding them?
	You have no idea.
	I mean, it's really serious.
	And women, by the way, this killed me.
	When you are an abuser, you go to a shelter, they're not really equipped.
	Some are very nice, but they're limited spaces, limited beds, limited.
	They got plenty of room for illegals, I guess, room.
	And do you know what?
	This killed me.
	When these women show up, these girls, they don't know what to do.
	And by the way, if you're 18, see ya.
	Done.
	You're an adult.
	Have a nice day.
	Take care.
	You may be 18, but you might have the emotional Maybe sometimes the intellectual, but the emotional stability of a 13-year-old by virtue of the fact that you've never had a childhood.
	You've been sold into slavery.
	Slavery!
	Take that, Michelle Obama.
	Bring back our girls.
	What about our girls here?
	Anyway, this is what killed me.
	When they said, this is what these women need, this is what they want, they needed, of course, a feminine...
	Products and hygiene, etc., etc.
	But they also said teddy bears.
	They need teddy bears.
	They wanted, despite all of their abuse, they wanted something to connect with.
	Remember Harlow's monkeys?
	Remember Harry Harlow?
	Remember that?
	I remember as a kid seeing this.
	He took away the babies, maybe Capuchins, or I don't know what they were, Reese's.
	Anyway, they took the babies away, and instead of having the mother, they had a cloth, a monkey, a surrogate mother.
	It was a doll.
	And the babies clutched And they showed so much terror.
	And they don't really have a lot of facial nerve, but they were showing terror because they needed love.
	They needed this.
	And he was talking about the notion of bonding and why it was so important.
	It broke me up.
	I said, why are they doing this?
	I could have told you that.
	Anyway, this is where we are today.
	There are people in your family.
	There are members of your family right now who have been the subject of Brutal, repeated, institutional rape, sexual abuse, and what happens to them?
	They don't get an $83 million verdict.
	Remember, the verdict was for defamation.
	The verdict is defamation.
	Do you hear what I'm saying?
	It's not rape.
	And let me also say something to you.
	I want you to be very careful of something.
	And I'm going to say this, and I'm going to try my best, but it doesn't really work out.
	Let me see if I can explain this to you.
	We use a word, rape, that means something to people.
	It normally, to most people, when you use terms like that in our society, it will mean, it will connote, Genital contact, penile-vaginal penetration, or even if there's other forms of object penetration, even that is considered different.
	Know the term of art.
	There are people who are claiming whenever something like this happens, I come back, well, I was raped too.
	Okay, fine.
	I don't know.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know how to say this.
	No, I'm not going to say it.
	Because there are some people who after a while you have to realize always make your claim, always pursue it, but in the media world you almost have to ask yourself this question.
	Am I ready to accept the responsibility that if I go and if my claim for rape Is fraudulent, synthetic, whatever the particular word is.
	I run the risk of hurting forevermore women who themselves have been raped.
	Give you another example.
	Somebody has got to stop using the word genocide.
	If you want anybody, To pay attention to what's going on in Israel and Palestine.
	I know according to the convention it's true.
	I understand the legal definition of it.
	But when you say genocide in this country, people think of cattle cars and Auschwitz and Droblinka and Belzen.
	I mean, there are these terms, unfortunately, that you hear.
	And when you use them, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, yes, I understand that.
	And to many people around the rest of the world, they'll say, well, what's wrong with that?
	I'm telling you in this country, you're not getting the attention because they're saying, oh, for God's sake, what are you talking about?
	Same thing happens.
	The same thing happens with these folks who love the word pedophile.
	Or pedophile?
	Let me ask you something.
	If you accept the claim of E. Jean Carroll, and apparently a jury did, that she was in fact abused or assaulted by President Trump, is it because he's a heterosexual?
	Would you use what he likes?
	Because a pedophile is somebody who is sexually attracted to children or people underage.
	So that's not what did it.
	It wasn't the attraction.
	So what would attract Trump, if you believe this, to attack a woman?
	You see how the words don't matter?
	Because he's a heterosexual?
	Because he likes women?
	He's attracted to women, so therefore he attacks women?
	No.
	This is where we're going.
	We have people like E. Jean Carroll.
	E. Jean Carroll did more harm.
	And I'm telling you, Rachel Maddow, congratulations.
	Way to go.
	And Kaplan, the lawyer, should have had much more control.
	Even her co-counsel said, she's kidding.
	You could tell they're thinking, oh my God.
	You didn't know this woman?
	You haven't seen her?
	You haven't listened to her?
	You haven't seen her on...
	Anderson Cooper, you don't know what you're talking about?
	What purpose did it do?
	Let me ask you the bigger question.
	Why are you going on Rachel Maddow?
	Why?
	It looks like a partisan political hit job.
	So what do you do?
	You go on a show that's in and of itself a partisan political hit job show.
	That's all they're there for.
	MSDNC.
	They are the stenographers of the Democratic Party.
	My God!
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	I've got to calm down.
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	Well, my friends, you know, another one too.
	This is interesting.
	There was a piece.
	Veritas, by the way, says, wow.
	Veritas says, good day, Lionel.
	Had a big week down under, corralled politically and emotionally en masse.
	Australia Day was ignored by mainstream media.
	They're not just hacking down statues.
	They're ignoring things in the public domain of Orwellian creepy proportions.
	1984 down under.
	Thank you immensely, Veritas.
	I want to hear more about this.
	Australia Day.
	Let me read about this.
	Oh, there we go.
	26th January marks the...
	Look at this from The Guardian.
	It's no accident neo-Nazis tried to rally on Australia.
	The denialism of our dark history aids their cause.
	What?
	What?
	Don't you love this neo-Nazis?
	Shocked Melbourne couple claimed they were threatened with arrest.
	On Australia Day for doing one simple patriotic act.
	A patriotic couple, according to Daily Mail, said they were gobsmacked to be threatened with arrest by a police officer for wearing Australian flags in their hats.
	Flag wearer Frank Strasdans was with his partner D Thorley.
	When he said the noise of a crowd caused him to walk out to the middle of Melbourne's central Swanston Street on Thursday afternoon, where he saw an Invasion Day rally with thousands of Aboriginal and Palestine flags.
	A police officer approached me and said, you were under arrest for inciting a riot.
	And there's a picture of him wearing an Australian flag.
	Holy!
	I thought Australia was cool!
	Didn't you think these were the...
	Can I just say something, if you don't mind?
	We have, in this country, the most stupid, stupid versions and renditions of certain countries and cultures.
	And one of them, interestingly enough, is this insanity caused...
	Oh, by the way, Ramona says, Caleb House is a restoration facility for traffic kids that provides care and support and a home for life, which is excellent.
	Excellent indeed.
	But you know, I was going to say something.
	I've got a dear, dear, dear friend of mine who was from Adelaide.
	And he said that Crocodile Dundee, to him, Was the most, was a version of like Amos and Andy or Step and Fetch It or something.
	It was just barbaric in its shrimp on the barbie and, you know, the crocodile dundee.
	And he said, let me tell you something.
	He says, I've never been to the Outback once.
	And the only time I ever saw a kangaroo was in a zoo in San Diego.
	He says, I don't know anything about this.
	Did you ever see the movie Mr. In-Between?
	I love that.
	That is the great...
	Have you ever watched that, Mr. Inbetween?
	That dude, that feller.
	No worries.
	Les...
	Oh, what is his name?
	The great...
	Oh, Les...
	I...
	Hang on a minute.
	He was on...
	Yes, it was Les Patterson.
	Barry Humphreys.
	Remember the one who did...
	He did Dame Edna and all that.
	Watch Les Patterson on Parkinson's show, Parkey.
	The greatest.
	What is it that we think of with Australia and our culture?
	One, boomerangs, kangaroos, and they got that hat.
	Remember that hat that goes like this?
	This one goes this way, and this side goes up.
	I don't know what the hell that's about.
	They always look like crocodiles.
	I'm Blimey!
	There's a crock!
	Can you just respond just normally?
	Remember Bindi?
	I'll dance for you.
	What the hell is this?
	And the wife was always like, okay, I'm just over here.
	I'm going to go jump on that crock!
	Leave it alone!
	But that was the whole thing.
	That's the way we did it.
	Anyway, neo-Nazis.
	So Putin the other day, I know this is a long-winded intro.
	Putin basically puts up this thing that says we're going to go after the neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
	The Azov Battalion, the right sector, Stepan Bandera post-World War II.
	These are real, honest to God.
	Legit, 100%, actual, real, serious Nazis!
	Now!
	Not some Aryan kid with a bunch of tattoos from Duluth who goes in the woods on the weekend.
	What are you talking about?
	No!
	It's just incredible.
	Absolutely incredible.
	So, going back to our good friend, what are you doing?
	Veritas, what are we...
	Where is your leadership?
	I don't begin...
	I don't begin...
	You know, when you talk about Aborigines and Ab...
	What do they call it?
	Abos or Abbees or whatever.
	I don't understand this.
	And you see what's happening by virtue of the fact that we live in this connected universe where everybody understands.
	Instead of us being disgusted by what's going on in heaven, we're seeing this other aspect.
	Sparky says, denazify Israel.
	Well, good luck with that one.
	Veritas, again, Moskai says, LOL, I'm an Adelaide boy with experience in the Northern Territories.
	And Crocody was a life-imitating art, real person caricature.
	These guys used to exist.
	No shite, Lionel.
	Buffalo hunters in the deep jungle.
	You're from Adelaide.
	There was a friend, and thank you again immensely for your uber kindness.
	There was a fellow years ago whose son I knew.
	But he was a great, great disc jockey, Bob Francis.
	He had his fame, the area of coverage.
	I mean, it was like the way clear channel stations used to be.
	In our country, whenever you heard three-lettered WOR, WLS.
	I think there was one in, was it K, whatever, some Texas station.
	They were 50,000 watt clear channel, meaning nothing was near them.
	In the event of some national catastrophe or the commies or whatever coming down the pike, this is where they came from.
	And there was this wonderful notion, this wonderful group of people.
	There's one of a concept, as you call it, called Clear Channel.
	In any event, so you would have some people, in the old days, when you were a kid, maybe you remember this, AM radio, you could pick up stations that were just.
	And the reason for that, Bob Francis from Adelaide, and he was huge, but in the old days, you know this, FM is line of sight.
	It's frequency modulation.
	It's how many times.
	But AM is amplitude.
	So what happens is AM goes up, it bounces down, it goes up like this, hits the clouds, and it can go around the curvature, around the horizon.
	So when it goes like this, it goes past the horizon and can keep going beyond line of sight.
	So you could pick up stations.
	What was it?
	WSM, Grand Ole Opry.
	People heard this all over the country.
	That's when it was great.
	Skip was it, but the idea that it was this wonderful, just huge, you could sit there with a transistor.
	It was exciting.
	I never got into the whole issue of, how do I say this, of ham and the like.
	Veritas, again, exceedingly, exceedingly kind of you.
	LOL, I met Bob, 5805DN.
	I think he passed.
	Yeah, he did.
	I was a journal for 18 years.
	I became redundant when the truth became redundant.
	You know, one of the greatest, and thank you again, one of my favorite, favorite groups, Who lent their expertise to my world in the 70s was Little River Band.
	Glenn Shorrock, B. Bertels, their original guitar player.
	I do not know his name.
	I think he was on the first Long Way There, Diamantina Cocktail, Happy Anniversary, Las Vegas Hilton.
	Glenn Shorrock was...
	Oh my God, you were great.
	Helen Reddy, completely, completely, completely, misunderstood as George Bush would say.
	I would love, you have no idea, to sit down and to have a show.
	I say a TV show, but I'm being redundant because I see newspapers still.
	And I would love to say, tell me what you think of Americans.
	I'll tell you what I think of you.
	If ever you get the chance, I'm going to say this to you very carefully.
	I'm not going to print it.
	I'm not going to link it.
	I'm just going to tell you.
	Okay?
	I'm just going to tell you.
	There was a National Lampoon did, first of all, two things that were beyond funny.
	No, not just funny.
	Brilliant, deadly, scary funny.
	One was the high school yearbook, which is a genius.
	You could spend the rest of your life reading that.
	There has never been...
	Forget the Mona Lisa.
	Forget the Eight Wonders of the World.
	Forget the Pyramids of Giza.
	Forget that.
	The National Lampoon high school yearbook.
	But the second one is make a look at this.
	Foreigners around the world.
	PJ O 'Rourke, National Lampoon.
	Foreigners around the world.
	PJ O 'Rourke.
	Yes.
	It was 1976 and it's a satirical piece mocking racism.
	Do not show this to anybody.
	If you see it, make sure nobody is around you.
	It is so brilliant.
	It goes after everybody from Canadians to Africans to French, Italians, Russians, Germans, Swedes.
	It is so brutal.
	It is so funny.
	And it is so satirically pertinent and sapient because it goes after The actual thing, the cry, you've got to see this.
	Foreigners around the world, PJ O 'Rourke, you can get it online, but do not show.
	You will laugh so hard.
	The jokes are sober.
	I love ethnic jokes.
	Love them if they make sense.
	Veritas says, Little Verband, guitarist and vocalist, B. Burles, yeah, Graham Goble, lead guitarist, Rick Formosa, bassist, Roger.
	Okay, for music finals.
	But the original guitar player, and again, thank you, dear friend.
	Thank you, Mr. Veritas.
	You are without peer, sir.
	Without peer.
	Let me see something.
	Original Little River Band guitarist.
	His name was Lenshark, B. Graham, David Briggs.
	I think it was David Briggs.
	Remember Derek Palicci?
	Not Formosa.
	Then there's this new group.
	Yep.
	David Briggs.
	Yep, that's him.
	David Briggs.
	Record producer.
	Listen to his guitar on a long way there.
	The original.
	The long version.
	Not the usual thing.
	But the long version.
	Sparky says...
	Lionel, AM and FM are the modulation scheme.
	It's the frequency band which determines whether the signal bounces off the ionosphere or is line of sight.
	Even Rush Limbaugh misinterpreted the FCC diagram.
	Amplitude modulation, frequency modulation.
	Yes, it's the frequency band which determines whether the signal.
	But, and I thank you for the correction, but all I know is you could, in the old days, stand behind Sometimes behind an FM antenna and not hear it.
	But the reason why you got these was amplitude versus frequency is per second, hertz.
	So, again, I am in no way suggesting to you that I am an engineer.
	And thank you for the correction.
	But I'm just saying, skip and bounce, that was AM, not FM.
	We just never got that.
	And I'm finding myself right now, let me also tell you something.
	And I want you to listen carefully, and I'm glad we're onto this.
	God bless YouTube and new people for defining and for providing new people, new Levels of...
	What am I trying to say?
	Of...
	Oh, God.
	What am I trying to say?
	Just a minute.
	The new...
	Wait a minute.
	Hang on.
	That's not it.
	Just a second.
	I'm going to give this one thing for you very, very quickly.
	Just let me...
	Bear with me.
	Please.
	I apologize.
	I apologize immensely for the love of God.
	Please.
	Please hang on a minute.
	That's not it.
	You know, sometimes they change this damn thing.
	And it drives me nuts.
	Alright, forget it.
	Did you see this latest story?
	This is the one that gets...
	First of all, you've got to understand something.
	In my world, in my world, the greatest people ever, the greatest, are musicians.
	They are the people that I absolutely...
	I love them beyond anything you can imagine.
	Songwriters are even greater.
	One of my old buddies, loved him to death, he passed away not too long ago, was Bobby Weinstein.
	He wrote Going Out of My Head with Teddy Randazzo.
	He introduced me to another one of my heroes, was Kenny Rankin, became buddies with him, put him together.
	One day we meet at this place in New York, like an Irish pub, but for lunch, as we're walking out, Bobby says, you know who this is?
	And this woman, she goes, oh, Bobby, stop.
	Ellie Greenwich.
	She did, I think, leader of the past.
	I get them confused.
	Carole King.
	I went to the scene one time.
	He was the president of the Songwriters Hall of Fame.
	I went for two years in a row.
	When I tell you this, I couldn't move.
	The next day.
	And it was not because we're drinking or anything.
	I never heard performances like this.
	I saw Liza Minnelli introduced, because when you get the Songwriters Award, you have somebody introduce you.
	I saw Judy Collins sing for John Denver.
	But Charles Aznavour picked Liza Minnelli and the song was called The Party's Over.
	It's not what you think.
	Not the party's over!
	No, no, no.
	This is a different one.
	I've never heard anything like this in my life.
	There was an all-woman jazz band called Diva.
	There was a woman named Joyce.
	Gloria Estefan was in.
	She had Joyce.
	I couldn't believe.
	And the one that blew me, this one, oh my God.
	Mitch Miller.
	Was Mitch Miller?
	Either Mitch Miller was introduced or Mitch Miller, I forget how it worked, but it was Frankie Lane.
	Remember Frankie Lane?
	Rawhide and Blazing.
	He did the Blazing Saddles theme.
	He hadn't been to New York in I don't know how long.
	He had like a tuxedo where the collar didn't work.
	Anyway, this guy sang, I've never heard anything like this.
	I'm telling you, I couldn't move.
	So what I'm saying right now is thank God for YouTube.
	We are seeing people the greatest there's a Japanese young lady plays blues and she's singing.
	She is incredible.
	Did you ever see the little 8 year old girl play the drum where Robert Palmer is watching her do rock and roll and he can't believe what he's seeing?
	It's because of YouTube, thank God.
	And people, the glass ceiling that existed for women, women were told, oh, you can't play the bass.
	Tal Wilkenfeld, which she did for bass, oh my God.
	I'm telling you, it's the greatest thing in the world.
	So no matter how bad things get, and they're bad, the amount of talent, maybe it was there the whole time and we never knew about it, I have no idea.
	It's the most incredible thing in the world.
	It was the...
	Anyway.
	Anyway.
	That's why if I had my way, too, in addition.
	Well, two things I want to say.
	Number one, there should be more music education.
	But I want to go back and watch this foreigners around the world.
	I want to go, and I would love to be in Australia and say, tell me what you think about America.
	Say it.
	It's okay.
	Say it.
	I want to show where black people say, tell me what you feel.
	I'll tell you what I feel.
	And we're here.
	Tell me about misconceptions.
	Tell me about kind of what you feel.
	Tell me about the French.
	If I said to you the French, we've always had this weird attitude about the French.
	Snooty.
	Don't try to speak French.
	Don't mispronounce our words.
	You know what I mean?
	Kind of weird.
	Foreigners around the world, so help me God, you will die laughing.
	Look at the way we think of Russia.
	When I say Russia, what do you think of?
	Think about it.
	Dour.
	Constipated.
	I will destroy you.
	Nikita Khrushchev.
	Darn it!
	Member of Iraqi.
	I will break you.
	Boris and Natasha.
	No sense of humor.
	Bad cars.
	Bad food.
	Babushkas.
	Everybody looks the same.
	You know what I mean?
	What is this?
	But, but if you say, hey, what about, remember what they would say, how about a Russian woman?
	Whoa, Ukrainian!
	Whoa!
	What the hell's the difference?
	What the hell's the difference?
	What is the difference?
	Plug in my camera, be nice.
	Isn't it funny how we do this?
	When we used to say Africa, remember when people would say, I'm an African American?
	Remember that all of a sudden?
	And we'd say, what country?
	Huh?
	What country?
	Chad?
	What?
	Africa.
	That's a continent.
	People didn't even know continents because we don't study this.
	Look at Australia.
	Where are you?
	You know what the only reason I don't want to go to Australia is?
	I don't want to travel.
	What is it, like nine days?
	This is the beautiful part.
	Okay, here we are.
	Okay, you got this?
	Here we are, the U.S. There we are.
	See that?
	Okay, there we are.
	Now, let's look at where Australia is.
	Let's go all the way over here.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	And then, there we, right here.
	Here's China, but way down here.
	There you go.
	Huh?
	I'll bet you every embolism in my body will just become dislodged and I'll die if I'm just sitting there.
	I can't sit.
	I will have to be sedated like the Ramones, but I'd love to go there.
	And I also want somebody to tell me, please, you know who I really feel sorry for?
	The Kiwis, New Zealand.
	They sound alike, but what do they do?
	Oh yeah, it's like Australia light.
	Well, you know.
	We have these things in our country.
	Do we see?
	Spain.
	España.
	Yes.
	Si.
	Italia.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	France.
	Yes.
	Portugal.
	Portugal.
	Lisbon.
	Yeah, what's Portugal?
	Brazil.
	No, not Brazil.
	That's different.
	And then we get into the South American League.
	Chile.
	Ecuador.
	Paraguay.
	Uruguay.
	Yeah.
	They're different.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Because that's the way we do.
	That's the...
	God bless the Europeans who can say whenever they travel, they need a passport.
	Let me tell you a quick story.
	There was a fellow.
	I don't know who it was.
	He's doing a movie in France, Paris, or wherever it was.
	And he said, look, with all due respect, I love French food, but I really like Italian.
	Can you take me some good Italian food?
	And they looked for it.
	Now, this is a story.
	Bear with me.
	I'm not verifying this.
	So they decided to say, well, we'll see what we can do.
	And he said, you know, what about this?
	Eh, it was okay.
	It was half-assed.
	Like either the last night or the penultimate or the anti-penultimate night, whatever it was, they said, well, you know, we can drive to Rome.
	He said, what?
	He said, we can drive.
	There's a couple hours.
	He goes, you mean to tell me we could have driven to...
	He goes, yeah.
	And he never thought about it because he's an American.
	And you fly!
	You get a passport and you fly!
	You don't get on a train and go to Rome and come back.
	And that always impressed me because we don't know where things are or how close things are.
	It's just a thought.
	Donna says, what happened to that little country that was being invaded?
	Can you be more specific?
	Can you be more specific?
	Then there are countries like this.
	Iceland.
	What's that all about?
	Bjork, I guess.
	What do you think of when I think of Iceland?
	What do I think of?
	Reykjavik.
	Boris Spassky.
	You dig?
	Boris Spassky.
	Ah, yes.
	Those were the days, my friends.
	Remember that?
	Those were the days, my friends.
	I thought they'd never end.
	We'd sing and dance.
	All right.
	Okay, dear friends.
	An hour and 11 minutes.
	I wanted to share this with you.
	Sparky, thank you.
	Veritas, absolutely beyond All comprehension, thank you.
	Thank you for your kindness.
	Ramona, thank you as well.
	I'm going to be talking about this for a long time today, my friends.
	I'm going to be talking about this for a long, long, long, long time.
	You dig what I'm saying?
	Because the story annoys me.
	Wait a minute.
	Hang on a minute.
	Hang on a minute.
	Wait, just a minute.
	Let me see some here.
	There we go.
	Veritas says, again, I live in Coober.
	Now, Petty.
	Coober Petty.
	Coober Petty.
	Northern deserts of South Australia.
	There is enmity.
	What am I doing here?
	There is enmity between The governor-privileged aboriginal and the racist whites, taxes, etc.
	We have an absurd reverse apartheid in Oz.
	It is becoming unbearable.
	You know what we should do?
	This is incredible.
	Veritas, do me a favor.
	Drop me a line.
	We gotta talk.
	Lionel at lionelmedia.com I think I should interview you.
	Every time I have an interview with anybody, it's a disaster.
	It never pans out the way I want.
	But you, my friend, let's piss off Australia.
	What do you say?
	Let's let them have it.
	Oh yes, Eat the Rich by PJ O 'Rourke.
	Yes, indeed.
	I interviewed him one time.
	He's very, very good.
	But I'm serious about this.
	Veritas, honestly, thank you for your kindness, but do me a favor, drop me a line.
	And that goes for anybody.
	Lionel at lionelmedia.com.
	It's very, very simple.
	Because I love to hear the real story.
	And I get this all the time, too.
	People here will say things like, well, New York.
	You don't know what New York's like.
	New York is what you think you see on TV.
	It's what you think you sort of know, maybe on TV.
	Maybe.
	You think you sort of know it, but not really.
	You know, and I don't blame people for being misunderstood.
	Believe me when I say this.
	I don't blame them for being misunderstood, as it were.
	But in any event.
	All right, dear, dear friends.
	Thank you so much for your time, for your effort.
	And again, Veritas, let's do a trash Australia.
	What do you want to say?
	Because I love to know the way...
	Things really are in your country and in your state.
	Does that make any sense to you?
	That's what I want to know.
	Alright, dear friends, again, thank you immensely.
	Yes, thank you immensely.
	Have a great and a glorious and an excellent day.
	I've got more stuff coming up.
	Thank you.
	It's been a great morning.
	Let's keep going.
	By the way, get some rest.
	Eat well.
	Nobody's going to make you do it.
	Don't forget to follow Mrs. L. I ask you again.
	Dear, dear friends, make sure you...
	There she is.
	Where is she?
	There we go.
	Hang on.
	Just a minute.
	Just a second.
	Go here.
	Alright.
	Let's go here.
	Follow her.
	Right there.
	And also, on...
	The Warriors on X. I can't say X. I can't.
	So anyway, that's it.
	Have a great and a glorious day.
	No, Veritas, please.
	You don't have to pay.
	Just send me an email.
	We'll work this out.
	I'm not holding up.
	You got to give me some money so I can talk to you.
	No, I want to just do it.
	I'm serious.
	I have had some of the best interviews in my life with people that I never thought.
	I told you one time I interviewed Ed McMahon for like an hour and a half.
	We never talked about Johnny Carson one time.
	Best time I ever had.
	He didn't know.
	He kind of walked into this.
	It was at the beginning of when internet radio was about.
	He didn't know anything about it.
	And it's just, that's the stuff.
	There are some subject matters.
	I'm not going to mention it officially that I'm really getting tired of.
	I think we've hit critical mass with them.
	I think you can imagine what they are.
	And I'll just leave it at that.
	In any event, dear friends, have a great and glorious day.
	See you tonight at 8 p.m.
	No, no, no. 7 p.m. Eastern Time.
	And until that, remember, the monkey's dead.
	The show is over.

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