Lionel Nation - Misunderstanding Hamas
Aired: 2023-10-17
Duration: 12:47


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[00:01:32]  I gotta tell you this story of a friend of mine who I was very good friends with.
[00:01:37]  I thought if I mentioned his name, you'd know his name.
[00:01:42]  So anyway, one day I'm on Twitter or X, whatever the hell it was called this week, and I noticed that I'm blocked.
[00:01:46]  I said, this must be a mistake.
[00:01:48]  Sometimes people, friends of mine, have made a mistake and maybe they hit ignore.
[00:01:52]  Anyway, so I emailed him.
[00:01:54]  I said, hey, something I said?
[00:01:57]  And he wrote back something to the effect of that Palestine is a red line in his world.

=== Differentiating Gaza (10:42) ===

[00:02:07]  A red line.
[00:02:08]  And I had traversed the red line by not I don't know what.
[00:02:18]  Not supporting Hamas?
[00:02:20]  Or daring to maybe see that Israel might have something to say when it was savagely butchered by Hamas?
[00:02:33]  Separate and distinct from the notions of occupation and the West Bank and Gaza.
[00:02:40]  There's a lot of different pieces going on here.
[00:02:43]  There was this...
[00:02:44]  You know, fellow years ago, Eric Brin, remember this on Ed Sullivan with the plate spinning, you know?
[00:02:49]  You've got to be able to handle lots of things.
[00:02:51]  So, my friend is no longer my friend because I guess I didn't come out strong enough or maybe I dared to see it maybe Israel's way and as far as,
[00:03:08]  oh, I don't know, decrying the fact that it was Attacked by this murderous, homicidal, rapacious bunch of terrorist lunatics?
[00:03:24]  Maybe I went too far because what I tried to tell my friend was, you can say whatever you want.
[00:03:31]  You can try your best to talk about whatever.
[00:03:35]  And I appreciate and respect your opinion.
[00:03:38]  But everybody hates Hamas!
[00:03:42]  I mean, this is, but believe me, people who couldn't find Israel on a map, people who don't know anything about this, hate Hamas.
[00:03:52]  Let me explain this in a moment.
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[00:05:17]  Now, I've got friends of mine like yours, and they're, you know, they mean well, and they, you know, they're kind of left.
[00:05:28]  And the thing about it is that I'm going to say, look, anytime I see pictures of anybody crying, old women, kids, people in Gaza or the West Bank or anybody who have had members of their families killed, property destroyed, Who feel enslaved?
[00:05:50]  I don't care why I feel, I don't want to do a Bill Clinton here, but I feel their pain.
[00:06:00]  I recognize this.
[00:06:02]  I get it.
[00:06:03]  I understand it.
[00:06:05]  But what people don't understand also is that they hate Hamas.
[00:06:13]  Have you seen anybody?
[00:06:16]  From Hamas?
[00:06:18]  Not Palestinians, not West Bank, not Gazans, not Palestinian representatives.
[00:06:26]  No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:06:27]  Have you seen anybody from Hamas?
[00:06:30]  Oh my God, this is central casting.
[00:06:33]  If ever these, if ever, I mean, just look at these folks.
[00:06:37]  Look at, is there any sympathy?
[00:06:40]  No.
[00:06:41]  Do they represent the sheer...
[00:06:44]  Embodiment of evil incarnate?
[00:06:46]  Just look at that.
[00:06:47]  Look at the mugs on these folks.
[00:06:49]  No.
[00:06:49]  Is there anything sympathetic about Hamas?
[00:06:52]  Not Palestinians now.
[00:06:53]  Remember, there's a lot of separate issues here which people have a hard time kind of grasping because of the fact that there's a lot of moving parts here.
[00:07:02]  But what they don't understand is people hate these folks.
[00:07:06]  Oh, and by the way, to Mehdi Hassan and whoever it is at MSDNC, Basically alleged to have been fired or removed from their lofty perch because of racism.
[00:07:19]  I got news for you, Mehdi.
[00:07:22]  Nobody believes this stuff.
[00:07:25]  In your circles, you're going to be applauded at the Oxford Union and Amy Goodman, who's great, by the way.
[00:07:36]  I respect her tremendously.
[00:07:37]  But I mean, that crowd just can't get enough of you.
[00:07:42]  But most people don't see it that way.
[00:07:46]  And you're surprised, aren't you?
[00:07:48]  Because you and others, a lot of people don't understand that, but I'm so brilliant.
[00:07:52]  You see, in my circles, we look at Israel as this lumbering bully, that it's an apartheid.
[00:08:06]  And that Hamas, excuse me, that Gaza, see how I'm doing it?
[00:08:12]  How Gaza is an open-air prison.
[00:08:16]  Actually, a prison is wrong.
[00:08:18]  Anyway, and believe me, I understand why you're saying that.
[00:08:24]  I understand it.
[00:08:25]  But that doesn't play with most people.
[00:08:28]  When you see Joe Biden standing up and blinking and Corinne Jean-Pierre, Stand up for Israel like they have?
[00:08:40]  These are the same folks who see nothing wrong with puberty blocking and drag shows and these John Waters dystopian nightmarish.
[00:08:53]  These folks look the other way for rioting.
[00:08:57]  They don't care about anything.
[00:08:59]  But when they come out, you know.
[00:09:03]  You know they got the memo that politically, that's the way to go.
[00:09:07]  Because America, I know kind of collectively how these folks think.
[00:09:13]  And they think that Hamas is the bad guy.
[00:09:18]  And they might say, first of all, if you think America even knows the terrain, the geography of Israel, you're out of your mind.
[00:09:32]  They've never looked once at it.
[00:09:34]  They have no idea where it is.
[00:09:35]  They don't know Gaza from a hole in the ground.
[00:09:37]  They don't.
[00:09:38]  West Bank, Gaza.
[00:09:40]  We talk about Hezbollah, Iran, Lebanon.
[00:09:42]  What?
[00:09:43]  Palestinian Authority.
[00:09:44]  Is this like ISIS?
[00:09:45]  ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Prokoharim.
[00:09:54]  But when they see Hamas, they say, oh yeah.
[00:10:01]  It's like those Bin Laden guys.
[00:10:05]  They look like the Al-Qaeda folks.
[00:10:08]  They don't try to explain Sunni and Xi and all that.
[00:10:11]  That's what America thinks.
[00:10:14]  So you mean to tell me these kids were at a rave or at a party and all of a sudden these folks came in, these terrorists, ooh, terrorists, on paragliders?
[00:10:24]  And the videos are, oh my God!
[00:10:28]  Real smart there, Hamas, putting out these videos.
[00:10:33]  Real smart.
[00:10:34]  That's what you, you know, when your soldiers are basically 18-year-old, poor, jobless, hopeless, incels, blessed there.
[00:10:43]  I mean, let's face it.
[00:10:44]  This is the army you've got.
[00:10:47]  Not good.
[00:10:49]  And that's what America's looking at.
[00:10:51]  Now, I'm not necessarily, and I know my friend is probably, if for some reason he's seeing this, he's going crazy.
[00:10:57]  I made a promise with you a long time ago, if you don't know this.
[00:11:01]  I told you, I'm going to tell you the truth.
[00:11:03]  I'm not going to tell you the way it should be.
[00:11:05]  I'm not going to tell you the way it would be if things were nice.
[00:11:09]  I'm going to tell you the truth.
[00:11:11]  And I'm going to tell you the way it really is.
[00:11:13]  And when it comes to Hamas, why do you think nobody shows these folks?
[00:11:17]  Have you heard them?
[00:11:19]  Have you listened to them?
[00:11:19]  My favorite is a Baghdad Bob Hamas dude who says things like, terror?
[00:11:26]  No.
[00:11:26]  Paragliders?
[00:11:27]  At a dance?
[00:11:31]  Are you sure?
[00:11:32]  This guy doesn't know anything.
[00:11:35]  So let me tell you something.
[00:11:37]  In the PR war here, oh, Hamas is done.
[00:11:41]  And if you think the American public is able to differentiate the gradations and the striations and the particular differentiations between Gaza, West Bank, Palestinians, I think Israel, they kind of get this, but how Hamas is not necessarily there.
[00:12:11]  Do the Palestinians denounce them?
[00:12:15]  Well, but we'll talk about occupation.
[00:12:18]  No, no, no, no, no.
[00:12:19]  Do you denounce Hamas?
[00:12:25]  There you go, my friend.
[00:12:26]  And all these geniuses on MSD, oh, the Oxford University, Cambridge in the debate, if they don't understand that, they are, as you say in the South, S-O-L.
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