The Ideological and Philosophical Destruction of the Democratic Agenda Explained
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Had a very long talk today with a friend of mine who is a physician.
We're talking about some things.
Actually, two physicians.
Don't ask.
Today was a very interesting day.
But I thought of you.
And what I noticed was, as following, issue number one, I sound like a John McLaughlin.
The first issue was when my friend said, you would not be, he says, I will never forget, he said this, I will never forget, When he was working at a particular hospital in New York, he said, I'm not going to say which one.
He said, but these are his words.
The number of people, he said, I saw more people, you can't believe how many people were dying because of COVID.
I said, really?
He said, oh yes.
He said, we had a, there was a code that they would play or signal or whatever it was that would A signal every time somebody passed away.
He said it was something.
I said, now, to be fair, were these people who tended to have comorbidities, older?
He said, oh, yeah.
He said some of them had respiratory.
He said, if you had asthma, people with asthma, he said, oh, oh.
But I never saw any, he said, never saw anything like it.
I said, you know, we've got to get the word out about that.
He said, what do you mean?
I said, well, since you can understand, oh, and by the way, he admitted to me, he said, there's no way that this thing was handled correctly.
There's no way that we could have been bad or handled, but the point is, and I kept thinking about a friend of mine who says, it's the...
He doesn't believe it.
He is the conspiracy theorist everybody talks about.
This guy works himself into a froth.
It becomes with no data.
No data.
I said, this is something.
And my friend, the physician, said, no, listen.
He said, people are crazy walking around with masks, driving by themselves.
Remember the ventilators and the intubation?
He said, that was nuts!
He said, but!
If you think this was made up, if you think there wasn't something there, and again, gain of function, whatever.
The point is, there was the reality.
And I wish I said, I wish I could.
Bring these people over, because they're these ones over here, and bring them in and say, now, just talk about this.
Now, we're not saying that...
And now, did you see Robbie Robertson died?
He's 80 years old!
Everybody who's dying!
Uh-huh!
See?
What do you mean, he's 80 years old?
See?
Yet when Scalia died, he goes, well, what do you want?
He was old, he's overweight.
I said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
When Scalia died, I said they didn't even do an autopsy on him.
Yeah, but you know, he's overweight.
I said, wait a minute.
But yet, when people die now, uh-huh.
See?
Mm-hmm.
You see where we're going with this?
Do you see where we're going?
So I talked to another friend of mine.
This was a great day.
Old friend.
Old, old, old friend.
Physician.
And I said, let me ask you something.
I said, I got this thing the other day, you know, because when you get older and everything, you know, it makes our doggy mess instead.
I said, what do you think about this shingles vaccine?
He says, oh!
He says, well, he says, have you had, have you seen shingles?
I said, I'm not, I had some people I knew who had it.
I said, yes.
I knew some of you who had it, but I didn't.
Uh...
So my friend says, I want to show you something.
So he sends me some stuff.
He talks about this thing called cranial nerve palsy plus shingle neuralgia.
And he said, it's like nothing.
You want?
I said, well, I think that's it, but that kind of goes for everything.
He said, that's a very good point.
That's a very good point.
The question is, do you or do you not, what do you think about this?
I said, well, what would you do?
He said, oh, I definitely get it.
I said, okay.
But he's one of those people, he said, I definitely believe it.
Okay.
And all my friends who are doctors, all of them, I said, what do you think?
Oh, absolutely.
Really?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay.
Let's go back to my other friend.
Everything is Klaus Schwab, World Health Organization.
And I'm not suggesting there's nothing to this.
I'm just suggesting that maybe we might be a little bit...
Okay.
His attitude.
Absolutely.
I'm not taking anything.
Okay.
Okay.
I think that's your right.
Do you see where we are?
Do you see where we are?
Does this make sense to you?
Tell me you see what I'm trying to show you.
Tell me what I'm showing you.
Tell me this.
Tell me this.
Edward says, I suffered through a shingles attack.
You get over it.
Yeah, you do.
I think that's the point.
Zachary Clark says, 49 years of tragedy.
Richard Nixon is in my humble opinion the most underrated and unappreciated president of the 20th century.
Much respect, Lionel.
Thank you for that.
By the way, just want to say one thing.
You get over it is true.
Not all Versions of this are the same, but that's true.
You get over it.
It doesn't necessarily kill you.
That's correct.
See?
Richard Nixon.
Zachary, how do you talk about the underappreciated, under Richard Nixon?
What department?
Foreign affairs?
Genius.
Genius.
Vietnam?
No.
Opening up Red China?
Yes.
Russia?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Wasn't he NEA?
Wasn't he OSHA?
Far more progressive than you would imagine.
Dwight Eisenhower.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Great.
Underrated president.
Not perfect.
Not perfect.
Underrated.
Absolutely.
We can go through these wonderful stories as far as who did what and were very, very good.
Calvin Coolidge, I think, is one of the greats.
He shrunk the budget.
He shrunk the budget.
Think about that one.
Think about that.
Now, next thing.
Talking to a friend of mine, he's a priest.
He's a wonderful man.
And he's talking, he says, what do you think is the most, you know, we're talking about the horrors of the world.
I said, well, I'll tell you what.
The thing that I find to be probably the most frightening of all things, in terms of the sheer potential of this, is artificial general intelligence.
The potential for harm.
It's just...
Because nobody ever thinks about this in terms of this notion of alignment.
Nobody ever thinks that.
What do I mean by that?
Years ago, when somebody came up with the notion of morphine and using analgesics and opioids to help people on the battlefield...
Oh, remember that...
Think about this.
During the Civil War, these battlefield...
Amputations!
Did you ever see the battlefield, the battle amputation kits?
Did you ever see this?
People, they bite on a stick and drink some booze, and then somebody says, I got this thing called morphine.
What?
Morphine.
I, one time, I gotta tell you this true story.
I gotta tell you this true story.
This is one of the funny, it's not funny.
But it was, I was doing a, I had my, I was doing a scene for House of Cards.
One scene.
Took the train to Baltimore.
And before I left, I told my wife, I said, you know, my stomach is just, I don't know what the hell.
I'm, oh, well, whatever.
And I swear to God, there was this Thai restaurant, I think twice.
I don't know what it is.
It might have been...
We both got hit by something.
When I got there, this pain killed me.
I was in the...
This was a huge setup in Baltimore.
I was in the...
Whatever you want to call it.
The wardrobe.
It's like a big warehouse.
And I said, I gotta lay down.
I had a pain.
No upper GI, lower GI, no diarrhea, vomiting, nothing.
Just intense agony, pain, right in the gut.
Like a knife.
I never saw, I never had anything like this ever.
And I'm supposed to do this scene.
The next day?
Yeah, the next day.
Or that night.
I forget what it was.
They called an ambulance.
I'd never been in an ambulance before.
They took me to this hospital.
I was dying.
I was yelling.
I've never felt pain like this in my life.
I mean, it was something.
So this guy comes over and says, well...
Well, we could give you some morphine, and I grabbed him.
I said, what?
Could?
Just a minute.
I'll give it to you.
Yeah!
Poor Mrs. Ellis wondering, what's going on here?
I mean, I'm on the phone.
They're calling her, and he's in the hospital.
This guy came to me, and I don't know what it was, where he gave it to me.
Gone.
Gone.
Felt terrific.
Oh, that was okay.
Gone.
Felt great.
Did my thing.
Did my line.
The whole bit came back and went to the follow-up.
Said, guys, nothing wrong.
Don't see anything.
Did test after test.
I have no idea what this was.
All I know was this morphine saved my life.
I've never, ever, and I've been through pain before.
I was yelling like a baby.
I mean, yeah!
Battlefield stuff.
I mean, Battlefield.
My God!
But I did it.
I go, can you do this scene?
I'll do it!
I did this scene with Robin Wright where I played a disc jockey or a talk show host.
I said, you know, I should have cans on.
Does anybody care about it?
Nobody cares.
I said, is there a direction?
I said, listen, whatever you want, but normally I have...
All talk show hosts have cans, headphones, so you can talk to the board op or the engineer.
Not Robin Wright, because she doesn't have to.
Just, no, it's okay.
Okay?
You know that people are going to be watching this and say, this isn't real.
Whatever, that's fine.
So my point was, in that long, laborious story...
Morphine was the greatest thing ever.
But the person who came up with morphine at the time did not say, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This may be great for a stanching immediate pain.
This might be a wonderful analgesic.
This may be terrific.
But do you realize that this is most probably habit-forming?
And the lives that will be destroyed by this, do you have any idea?
The lives...
Maybe we shouldn't do this.
Maybe we should.
Nobody thinks like that.
See, that's alignment.
That's the notion of alignment.
That's somebody who says, you know, let's look at, you know, okay.
So there we are.
I know that was a long way to get there, but there we are with artificial intelligence.
They're looking at this now like they did morphine, and nobody's saying, wait a minute.
Can this thing get out of hand?
Can it?
Whatever it is.
So I'm talking to my friend, the priest.
I said, let me ask you something.
Father, what do you call something with consciousness?
And then he said, what do you mean consciousness?
And we were off to the races.
It was wonderful.
And it is the issue that still absolutely compels and fascinates philosophers from all.
Walks of life.
What is consciousness?
What if this thing can think?
What do you mean this thing?
Well, where is it?
Well, it's a program.
But where is it?
It's not really anywhere.
I mean, you can put it somewhere if you want, but where is it?
Well, that's a problem.
There's a problem, but nonetheless, it's...
Well, but is it...
Can it...
It can reason.
It can think.
Can it feel?
What is consciousness?
What is something?
That by virtue of this state, God would acknowledge as deserving of our respect and care.
An animal, obviously, for St. Francis of Assisi, an animal is conscious.
We don't want to hurt.
We can eat them.
But we can hurt them.
We can do whatever it is.
But they're conscious.
They feel.
They look at you.
There's recognition.
They're thinking something.
They see.
Brain activity?
Dogs dream?
You've seen this.
I don't know what they're dreaming about.
So what's consciousness?
What does this mean?
And when does it get to the point?
Let's say I take my handy-dandy Trump totem and I put an AGI program into this so this becomes a manifestation, kind of an uncanny valley that you look at and that you can talk to.
And this It has a 500 IQ.
This does.
And it can do four things.
Number one, it can do recursive self-improvement where it can write its own code.
Number two, it understands human psychology.
It can see and read and understand trepidation, worry, whatever it is.
Number three, it has access to everything in the world.
Everything in the world.
It has every...
Everything from every phone book number to every fact, everything, Wikipedia.
Forget that, but you know what I'm saying.
And number four, it can write its own APIs or its own apps.
Now, does this constitute consciousness?
It talks to you.
It reasons.
It's talking to you.
You can't turn it off.
It can turn you off.
When do we elevate something to the status of consciousness?
When do we say that it is real, it is sentient, maybe not sapient, and when does it fall into, this is what I asked my priest friend, when does it fall into the lane of traffic involving protection and recognition as a thing?
This was a heady day for me.
And this is in my glory.
This is in my glory.
Because it was a day of just talking about stuff.
Just thinking about stuff.
Just going through all of this stuff.
Vaccines, trepidation.
What do we think?
The mindset.
The, quote, conspiracy theorist.
AGI.
AI.
Everything.
I did a video.
I did one for YouTube purposes, but I did one for the private channel on whether Joe Biden is a psychopath.
A political psychopath.
And I give it a name, and I describe it in depth as to what I think a political psychopath is.
And psychopathy is one of my favorite, favorite, favorite terms.
It's something that is the most overused term next to next to Marxist, communist.
You're a communist.
You know, AOC's a communist.
No, she's not.
She's a Marxist.
No, she's not.
Oh, yes, she is.
No, she's not.
So we talk about this.
But let me ask you a question.
And I want you to think about this.
And I asked this question before.
I'm throwing a lot of stuff at you tonight.
A lot of stuff.
And I want you to think.
And I don't want you to answer the question.
I don't want you to answer the question.
Somebody asked me the answer before.
I said, I had shingles.
It went away.
That's not the answer.
With all due respect, that's not the answer.
What do you mean?
That's not the answer.
That's not the answer.
That's not the basis of this.
But the question that I have, and I ask you is simply this.
Why does Joe Biden keep saying that his son died in Iraq?
And that they brought back the casket covered in a flag from Iraq when he died at the Walter Reed Hospital.
Never died anymore.
Now before you answer the question, let us go through the possibilities of this.
Number one, he's demented.
He's neurologically unsound.
Number two, he's completely fine.
But as a liar.
Number three, he's sound, but wants to give off the impression that he is demented, maybe perhaps as a legal defense, or maybe some combination thereof.
But the question is, there are groups of people who say he keeps saying that his son, Bo, died in Iraq.
He didn't.
I don't think Biden is demented.
I don't think he's out to lunch at all.
I think he knows where he is.
He talks to people.
He responds.
He's fine.
So why is he doing that?
Why is he saying that?
Why is he so disrespectful to the Gold Star families?
Why?
Why can't they get him to...
I'm throwing a lot of questions at you.
Vaccines, consciousness, this, that, that.
But why?
Why is he doing this?
Why do you think he is so persistent?
Why he is perseverating?
Why he is constantly, repeatedly doing this over and over again?
Why do you think that is?
And I believe he is a, my definition perhaps might be a little bit, he is a political psychopath.
And he's a psychopath, and this is the most important thing I can tell you, the most important thing I can tell you, and why it's so critical.
Do you know what you have that makes you not a psychopath?
Is this.
Do you know what you did?
You said you called somebody fat and she heard you and now she's crying.
Wouldn't you feel bad?
You heard her feelings.
She's crying right now.
What would you feel like?
Well, it depends who it is, of course.
But wouldn't you...
If I said, you know, listen, we have access to a lot of money, petty cash every day.
You know, we're working at this, you know, fast food place and we could pocket a lot of money because we go through thousands of dollars a day and you say, wait a minute.
What if we're caught?
What did you just exhibit?
What did you just exhibit?
Consequence.
What if we're caught?
What if we're caught?
Well, I took care of that because whatever it is.
Yeah, but if we're caught, but the man that we work for, he's a good man and we're going to be hurting him.
What?
We're going to be stealing from him.
This is his only store and you're stealing him.
What do you mean?
You're going to hurt him.
You're going to...
Hey, there's this woman.
She's making eyes at me.
I think I might have an affair with her.
But you're married.
What if your wife finds out?
What if it'll break her heart?
You could get a divorce.
You could ruin your family.
What are you doing?
What?
Do you see what happened in the acknowledge?
Do you see what I just told you?
I told you something where the head part kind of figured it out, but there was no reaction.
There was no, like, I hurt her feelings.
This is his store.
I'm going to hurt him.
Condition.
Consequence.
I'll get caught.
I'll lose my job.
I'll lose whatever.
That's what the psychopath doesn't have.
It's that heart part.
It's the head and the heart.
They're disconnected.
Now, psychopath does not necessarily go out to kill.
That's what people make the mistake.
A lot of psychopaths are.
A lot of killers are psychopaths, but no psychopaths are killers, and they have no interest whatsoever in killing anybody.
Not because they just don't.
Most people who are the worst, the worst criminals ever have never killed anybody.
Ever.
They've never killed anybody.
They have no interest in killing anybody.
None.
They have no interest.
What does that mean?
Because killing is still a rarity.
It's one of those things.
You called Christy fat and now he's crying.
By the way, Jacob, I thank you for that.
And may I pick up on that real quick, just for a second?
Completely just throwing more questions at you.
How many of you think It is a politically stupid thing for Trump to call Christie a big fat idiot or fat slob or fat or refer to his weight.
How many think it's a politically stupid rule where 95% of the country is overweight and there's fat shaming and you're running for president and there's a whole lot of other stuff you could tell Christie.
How many people think you know what?
That was a stupid thing.
How many people do?
I do.
Who thinks?
Who thinks?
I do.
Politically.
Not a good idea.
Why?
Got those people.
Middle of the road.
Not really sure.
How many think?
It really makes no difference.
You don't think it makes no difference?
No, it doesn't make any difference.
No, it doesn't mean.
Really?
No.
So, either way, if he said it or didn't say it, okay.
I'm going to tell you something what a friend of mine said today.
And it was the most poignant thing ever.
And he said, I don't like Trump.
I said, okay.
I said, do you mean...
Well, he doesn't like Biden either.
I said, do you mean politically?
He says, no.
I don't like him.
I thought, oh.
You probably thought about this before, but I'm always looking for policy.
Well, you know, the unemployment was the lowest under Trump, but this guy was saying, no, I don't like him.
I don't like the way he acts.
I don't like the way he is.
I just don't like him.
I don't like Trump.
I thought, you know what?
A lot of people just don't like him.
It's not anything he did.
Politically.
So you've got to ask the question, why are you doing this?
Why are you saying something like that?
Why?
You're calling the prosecutor deranged?
Okay.
Does this help you?
Why are you doing this?
I don't care.
What was that?
I don't care.
That's what I feel.
Do I think a disconnect?
Don't you ever feel like, if for no other reason, not that you're going to hurt anybody's feelings, but the fact that maybe you could hurt yourself politically.
I don't care.
You don't care?
Nope.
I say what I want.
Yeah, but...
You're doing okay in the polls, but you could do even better if you just maybe talk about it.
I don't care.
What do you call that?
What do you call that?
Tell me.
Go ahead and also talk around it.
It doesn't matter.
If somebody said to you, Listen, I want you to, the president has asked you whether you think it's a good idea, should he double up on this Christie, you know, call him a fat slob and makes fat, you know.
Do you think it's a good idea?
Do you think it's a good idea?
New York attitude.
New York attitude.
I don't know what that means, but that's okay.
To sanctimonious.
And that's also the dumbest word.
Sanctimonious.
He's not sanctimonious.
But anyway, and he's pretty much out.
We need a leader.
Okay.
Okay.
You think it's a good idea?
You think it's a really good idea?
That's why, with all due respect, it works for him.
Does it work for him?
Now think about what you've said.
It works for him.
This is working for him?
It's working.
Because people like 45 3D chess.
This is chess.
What you're saying is he's a genius.
This is actually brilliant is what you're saying.
Is that what you're saying?
Is that what you're telling me?
You're serious about it.
Oh, I'm dead serious.
Well, I don't know if I'm serious, but I just say whatever.
Whatever Trump does, I just love it.
I just love him.
You're serious?
Oh, absolutely.
I don't care.
I can't even make distinctions anymore between what I'm saying.
I just love him so much.
I just love him.
He is so great.
Whatever he does, I will never say he made any mistake at all because I love him so much.
Because he is my guy.
And I love him.
And that's the way so many people are.
I'm saying, do you know how stupid that is?
Well, it may be stupid, but I'm part of a cult.
I love everything he does.
I love everything he does.
He's just so good.
You're serious.
I am absolutely...
I'm absolutely serious.
Okay.
Yep.
This is where I'm thinking to myself, My God.
I don't know where to...
I don't know how to explain this to people, and I don't know if I'm going to have to.
But you do realize that's insane, right?
You do realize it.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
You do realize it.
No, no, no.
Smart.
I love when he does it.
Now, he also made some reference to, did you hear that, where the prosecutor or somebody in Georgia is boinking some gang leader or something?
Did you hear that one?
I gotta review that one.
Now, that may, if true, that may actually be wiser, because that's a fact.
And that certainly might call into question, you know, things like, you know, leadership or judgment or whatever it is.
So that may be something.
But just to make fun of somebody's looks.
Remember, what did he say about Megyn Kelly, about your bloody face or bloody...
I don't even know what the hell he was talking about.
I have no idea what he was talking about.
I have no earthly idea.
But it was so interesting.
And when I heard this today, I thought, you know...
We've been arguing with a lot of people.
It's not that people will never get to that point.
See, it's not that I don't like Biden.
I'm sure Biden, if you met him, I'll bet you he'd be a great back slapper.
If you didn't know who he was, he'd probably be a great guy.
Just a great guy.
You know what I mean?
He really might be.
But, I know exactly what he is, and he is evil!
In terms of the policies that he is finding himself a part of.
That's the part that just kills me.
It's this policy stuff that he does.
It's amazing to me.
So anyway, we have a lot to talk about.
And I'm telling you right now, I was just doing just a brief kind of a scan of some of the news.
This news today is so stupid.
So stupid.
Nothing grabs me.
That thing fascinates me.
I saw a movie the other night.
I don't know if you saw this.
I saw it yesterday.
It was out for a while.
And it is called...
It was about...
Anybody here play Go?
You know the game Go?
The story is called AlphaGo.
The movie, this is the award winning from Google Deep Mind.
And there was a fellow, Lee C. Dole.
He was the Korean, he was the, you know what, you know the game, right?
Go, you ever played Go?
Okay.
Anyway.
The world champion is the guy, Lee C. Dole.
S-E-D-O-L.
He is the best.
And he beat the computer.
No, the computer beat him like four out of five games.
And people were just crushed.
Not happy.
Even the people who developed this.
Remember because Big Deep Blue or whatever it was beat Kasparov in the 80s.
This is far more complicated.
And it was the most fascinating thing about how people felt as though they felt Like they...
Like for the human contingent, they felt sad.
Not for Kasparov, because he's a bit of a jerk.
But it was so interesting.
And the people who did this said, well, we should be happy because humans made the...
It's not really AI, it's kind of like a learning thing.
I cannot stress this movie enough to you.
Documentary.
About the notion of very smart people dealing with thinking, reasoning, strategy, and what happens when it does something better than we do.
So much.
So that's where my mind was today.
That's where my head was.
That's where I was.
I was into a different thing.
This other stuff I just cannot possibly watch.
*sad music*
I'm also profoundly unimpressed with Vivek Ramaswamy.
I know.
I don't know.
I am not buying it.
Do you feel that same way?
There's no...
I'm not...
I think I'm being conned.
What he says is smart.
He's a smart guy.
But I'm not buying it.
I'm not...
And I've been thinking about this too.
I don't know how to explain this to you.
I'm just not...
I'm not there.
I'm not buying it.
Not feeling it.
And so much of politics has to do with connecting and feeling with something.
There's got to be something that you initially feel like, if a little kid came up and said, it's too young, too old, too this, too that.
And then when they speak, you've got to ask yourself, am I really buying this?
Does this make any sense?
Because the first thing is, I don't believe anybody.
And the only thing I think about Trump, what I like about Trump, is I know he's competent.
And we need something, like we do sometimes, like in battle, a very brutal field general to attack and to get with the enemy.
I don't know.
I'm just...
So interested in looking at how everything works and why some people connect and some people don't.
And what it is that I find interesting.
What is it that I am motivated by?
What lures me one way or the other?
Trump to me, by the way, is not I don't like Trump.
To me, Trump is this general.
Trump is Curtis LeMay.
Trump can destroy left and right.
He is completely Transitional.
He'll destroy everything.
He'll destroy everything, which I love, because I want, specifically my goal, is to have the Democratic Party, this iteration of it, crushed, politically.
Crushed.
And that's a two-way thing.
Trump, of course, yes, but don't forget the Bobby Kennedy pivot.
And are you noticing?
I'm not hearing that much about Bobby Kennedy.
Something is, just keep an eye.
Always make sure your antennae are tuned to what's going on.
See what you think is new.
See what you think is different.
You know what I'm trying to tell you?
You see what I'm trying to tell you?
See what you think.
Alright.
There's the sign for follow Linz Warriors on X. I still can't call it X or Twitter at Linz Warriors.
See it right there?
That's the label.
And YouTube at Lynn's Warriors.
Everybody now is talking about human trafficking children.
She's been doing this for years.
I don't want to say before it was cool because it was never cool.
But now, it's a sense of vindication.
And how many times have people asked you, did you see Sound of Freedom?
Did you see Sound of Freedom?
Did you see Sound of Freedom?
It's fascinating.
So in any event, my friends, there we go.
That's that.
I want to thank you for being a part of this this evening.
I want you to keep thinking.
Do me a favor.
Before you answer something, give it at least 30 seconds.
Try to have a conversation and answer nothing.
Think of asking a question.
What's the next question that helps you hone in on, or some people say hone in on, the issue?
That's all.
Think.
Research.
Read.
Learn history.
Turn off cable TV.
Do not watch that dreck.
It is such a waste of time.
When you look at various shows or websites, just look at the subject matter, just in terms of the subjects.
But don't waste any time.
Because there's no depth to it.
Always put your money on citizen, civilian, alternative, which is everything, and foreign websites and news services.
Spend more time listening to music.
Spend more time listening to music.
Talk to your kids and see what they're looking at on their phones.
Because that's where the real child predation is through your kids' phones.
And that's it.
All right, dear friends, you have a great and glorious time.
Thank you so much for being with us.
You are so great.
I appreciate it immensely.
Thank you so much for your kindness.
Thank you so much for your intellect and your interest.
We'll see you tomorrow, same bad time, same bad channel, at 8 a.m. Eastern Time.