All Episodes
Previous Next
May 20, 2023 - Lionel Nation
59:30
Performance Tyranny As the Great American Choreographed Pastime
| Copy link to current segment

Time Text
Disaster can strike when least expected.
Wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes.
They can instantly turn your world upside down.
Dirty Man Underground Safes is a safeguard against chaos.
Hidden below, your valuables remain protected no matter what.
Prepare for the unexpected.
Use code DIRTY10 for 10% off and secure peace of mind for you and your family.
Dirty Man Safe.
When disaster hits, security isn't optional.
When uncertainty strikes, peace of mind is priceless.
Dirty Man Underground Safes protects what matters most.
Discreetly designed, these safes are where innovation meets reliability, keeping your valuables close yet secure.
Be ready for anything.
Use code DIRTY10 for 10% off today and take the first step towards safeguarding your future.
Dirty Man Safe.
Because protecting your family starts with protecting what you treasure.
The storm is coming.
Markets are crashing.
Banks are closing.
When the economy collapses, how will you survive?
You need a plan.
Cash, gold, bitcoin.
Dirty Man Safes keep your assets hidden underground at a secret location ready for any crisis.
Don't wait for disaster to strike.
Get your dirty man safe today.
Use promo code DIRTY10 for 10% off your order.
Good evening, my friends.
Happy, happy, happy Friday to you.
If that means anything to you, happy Friday to you.
How's everybody doing?
How's everybody doing?
Thank you so much for being a part of us.
Thank you so much for coming or however you reacted.
Remember that great line?
Martin Mull from the great album, I'm Everyone I've Ever Loved.
Great line, great for the kids.
Tonight, my friends, I want to talk to you about a couple of things.
First of all, I want to thank you for being here.
And I want to say to you, thank you, thank you, thank you for your utter and inimitable kindness for being not who you are, but what you appear to be.
And I mean that sincerely with all my heart.
I thank you for that.
Another thing I wanted to discuss with you is I hope you're getting the newsletter.
I hope you're getting the newsletter.
It's a beaut.
Sign up for that and make sure also you are...
I take it that everyone here...
I take it that everyone is signed up, that you've subscribed to this channel.
I guess...
I mean, am I correcting that?
Is there anybody who has not?
How would you know about this?
How would you...
I'm just saying, how would you know this?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
But anyway, thank you for that.
And I have a lot to talk about.
But I want to say something very, very quickly because I've not talked about these great people in a while.
And I believe in this like I believe in my name and who I am.
I believe that in the event, I'm kind of into, I guess when you get older, maybe, you start realizing that certain things kind of sort of make sense.
And you know, it's a good idea to think about certain things.
Insurance and, you know.
And in the event, God forbid, and I don't know why people keep testing this, but in the event you ever need emergency food, I don't know what you're going to do.
People have this, oh, come on, I've got a pole.
I've got a fishing pole.
I've got some banana chips.
I've got some stewed prunes and some pasta.
Are you able, do you have three months per person lined up where you can go three months?
Every day, three meals a day, 2,000 calories a day, 25 years shop life.
Can you do that?
No!
How long do you think you need food?
Well, you're not going to need food.
How do you know?
People are anticipating the emergency.
So anyway...
PrepareWithLionel.com I put the link there for you.
PrepareWithLionel.com If you could buy a three month emergency food supply kit you'll get a $200 in survival gear totally free.
Look at this.
Look at the stuff that you get and think to yourself thank God there are people who have thought about what I would do if ever I was out in terms of candles and matches and A solar flashlight and emerging...
I mean, forget, you know, the black helicopters or aliens.
Let's talk about just supply chain disaster or the perception of loss.
Prepare with Lionel.com.
Do yourself a favor.
Go there.
Just check this out.
It makes so much sense.
I mentioned aliens off the bat.
Who believes in Flying saucers.
Who believes in flying saucers?
As Ronald Reagan would say, aliens.
He believes in aliens.
Who believes in aliens?
Who?
Who believes flying saucers and the like?
Extraterrestrials.
I love this exercise.
Extraterrestrials.
Ladies and gentlemen, he's in the house.
Eric Thaddeus Walters.
Aramotskov has fallen.
When will America wake up?
Oh my gosh.
Let me, let us do some, let us do some review of this.
Hang on for a second.
I would be less than, I would be remiss if I jumped into this without doing a little bit of, oh, Bakhmut, Bakhmut is a battle, Bakhmut is in eastern Ukraine, oh yes, yes.
Well, Eric, I'm a bit remiss today.
Pardon me.
When it has fallen, fallen to whom?
Just let me know.
And by the way, thank you, sir.
Thank you for your kindness.
Fallen to...
What is going to happen in Ukraine is it will eventually be a rump state.
It will be an independent, kind of a neutral, kind of like, it'll just be independent.
Not really independent, but it will not be a member of NATO.
It will not be a part of the EU.
There will be a secession.
A cessation of battle, and it will not be a part of NATO.
And Putin will say thank you, and Zelensky says, I got my billion, I'm out of here, and that's it.
That's over.
It is not going to be a member of NATO.
It's not.
What's going to happen with Erdogan, May 28th?
That's a very difficult thing.
Very, very difficult.
Let me ask you, Erica, did you know, did you know, Mr. Eric Thaddeus Walters, by the way, that there was a question as to whether the, how do I say this, whether the Vatican, whether the Catholic Church accepted the notion of aliens, aliens.
And the Vatican astronomer said that he believes, that it is completely consistent with Catholic theology, to believe in this, and that he said, let me check something out here, and he also said that there was a, hang on here, and that there was Just forgive me.
I'm looking here.
We see standby.
You got me intrigued there, Eric.
I'm looking at this.
Bakhmut.
Ukraine repels Russian attacks on Bakhmut.
This is nine minutes ago.
Bakhmut is unlikely to be taken by Russian forces.
Gains to Bakhmut.
Let me see what other people are saying.
You know you have to go to the other side as well.
We'll see.
Erdogan evades answering if Biden wants to topple him.
We'll get to that later.
But thank you for that.
Let me go back to what I said.
I'm sorry I'm jumping all over the place.
I'm rather frenetic tonight.
Please forgive me.
Please forgive me.
Aliens.
Who believes in it?
Who believes in it?
Who has seen them?
What are they?
What are they?
Who believes in them?
Where are they from?
Are these other life forms?
What are they?
Tell me what they are.
Do you believe them?
Did you see them?
How do I know what they are?
I have talked about ufology for the longest time, and I've said this before.
I don't know what to tell you about what I believe in.
Believe means I believe in life, in death.
I believe in gravity.
I believe in rain.
I don't believe in things.
I don't play fill-in-the-blank belief.
It is extremely consistent.
It is extremely possible.
It is absolutely quite consistent.
Possible and probable that there is something out there, but I do not know.
You have to answer the question.
Do you know?
No one knows.
We don't have the data.
There are people who jump to the conclusion.
I would bet, if I had to bet, I'd say, oh, absolutely, I would bet.
But do I believe?
No.
I don't have any basis for that.
Belief is a very special word for me.
Now let me also ask you something.
This is very interesting as well.
This is to you, Mark, and this is to Sweetie Pie and Loco and to Liz and everybody else for that matter.
The world...
Think about this.
The world, as we know it, the Earth, the Earth, excuse me, the age of the Earth is about seven and a half billion years, all right?
Age, Earth, age.
I believe it's seven and a half billion.
No, excuse me.
Four.
Pardon me.
I knew it was four and a half billion.
Excuse me.
4.5 billion.
4.5 billion years.
That's 4.5.
That's 4,500 million years.
That's 4,500 million years.
You got that?
4,500 million years.
Think about this.
Now, if 4,500 million years, if that's the age of the Earth, think about this.
Think about this very carefully.
If we are 4,500 million years, imagine if there was a planet or some particular Goldilocks system that was 4,501 million years.
1 million years older than us.
Just 1 million years.
That's it.
Which is an eye blake in the schematics of the universe.
Theoretically, my dear friend, from the time of...
from 1903 and 1905, from Kitty Hawk until 1969, the landing on the moon, that's 66 years.
From Kitty Hawk to landing on the moon.
66 years.
In 66 years, mankind went from that to this.
What would happen if there was a...
Planet or a system that had a million years on us.
A million years!
Think they could come up with some advancement that we could?
Perhaps.
If you look at Zeta Reticuli, which is the non-binary...
Excuse me, the two binary...
You've got to be saying non-binary.
The binary star system, that's about 30 light years away.
Very reachable.
Because remember, the closer you get to the speed of light, the faster things work.
Anyway, it's possible.
Betty and Barney Hill talked about different things.
Do you believe, and does anybody believe, do you believe, do you believe, do you believe that there is a...
That these people out there come in peace.
Do you believe that there are enough of these people?
If you confirm these paradoxes, why don't we see them?
Like I said before, I made a reference to the fact that the Vatican astronomer said that it is completely consistent with...
Church ideology and theology believe that these are, in fact, angels.
And here's the best.
And Eric, you would appreciate this because you are from that particular area.
And by the way, Eric, are we still doing Vatican tours?
Because if I'm going to Rome, that's the one I'm going to go see.
Eric says, Vatican astronomers indeed have pronounced, on the matter as you suggest, Lionel, Pepys should research the VATT in Arizona, which is not U.S. territory, but Vatican territory.
Interesting.
Now, Eric, and I appreciate this, you must let us know if you're still doing Vatican tours, because that's where I want to go.
We should all go to an Eric Vatican tour.
But here's the thing.
If, if, if, if, if they exist, do they have not original sin?
Wait a minute.
What?
Now, I don't want to do anything that in any way might annoy somebody, so please go away if you are sensitive about your religion, but here's a question I have to ask.
This is a question I have to ask and I must ask.
It's something that's critical to me, something that I just need it.
I need to know these things, okay?
And it goes something like this.
Very, very, very...
Well, I'll say it.
If, if, if we were to meet somehow, theoretically, in some crazy concocted idea of...
I don't know how we would do this, but if we could somehow meet with the deists and say, Lord, are you telling me that there might, according to the Vatican, that there might be other people who do not have original sin, who do not need To seek redemption.
Who do not need to accept you.
Who have not sinned.
Who have not...
Are you telling me that out of the entire expanse of the universe and the multiverse, you went through this just...
Here we go.
Just for this?
Just for this?
When nobody...
You didn't do this for any other planet, did you?
No.
Just for this, and as you know, dear friends, original sin.
Let's make sure we get this.
Original sin.
Because that's not a big Protestant concept.
Original sin.
Original sin is the Christian doctrine that holds that humans, through the fact of birth, inherit a Tainted nature in need of regeneration and proclivity to sinful conduct.
The biblical basis for the belief is generally found in Genesis 3. And this is original sin.
This is very, very, very, very critical.
Original sin is the sin which corrupts our nature and gives us a tendency to sin.
Actual sins are the sins we commit every day.
And this is the whole Catholic Encyclopedia says, Original sin may be taken to mean either the sin that Adam committed, a consequence of the first sin, the hereditary stain with which we are born, etc., etc.
My question to you is very simply this.
Do other people have that?
Are you telling me, according to this, that the story of the crucifixion only applies to us?
Because at the time of the Bible, I don't think anybody was too keen as to other spiritual dimensions and other extraterrestrials.
Do you?
I don't think so.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think so.
I've got some friends of mine who say, I don't want to talk about this.
Because it, to me, makes things look extremely implausible when you say, this is a wild story.
You mean to tell me we may be the only people on the planet, in the universe, who are tainted and stained by the sin?
You mean to tell me there may be other forms of life who do not seek redemption, who do not need it, who are blessed and forgiven from the outset?
Are you telling me this?
Wow!
Wow!
Let's talk about that one.
Let's see what Joel Osteen has to say about that.
Think about it.
Meeting somebody.
Meeting somebody from another planet.
Meeting somebody who says, what are you doing?
Well, I have to...
We're cool with God.
We don't kill each other.
We don't have the original sin of Adam.
We're not from your planet.
That's your problem.
Do you know what would be interesting if that ever happened?
Do you know?
What do you think?
First of all, do you think there's one form?
No.
What do you think they look like?
Do you think they look like this?
Where you touch them?
Where you touch them?
Could they not be just a...
A force field or in some particular frequency or wavelength?
You can't really see them, but they exist.
Must they always be tangible?
Must they always be in terms of two eyes and this kind of a symmetrical left and right side?
I don't know.
Would they necessarily have eyes that worked?
Philip Corso says that he believes that when the retro-engineered or reverse-engineered this one particular...
I think it was...
The whole Roswell business, his theory, he hypothesized that our night vision goggles came from the lenses of these critters and that they came up with the transistor and fiber optics and everything else.
I love the idea that they were supposedly able to fly.
They were much shorter and they could sit in these little, this is the Bob Lazar type of model.
In which they would sit, and it was almost like fused.
It allowed them just to sit in this device with their hands in some type of a well or pad or something, maybe something around their head, in which they became part of the circuitry, almost like a transistor of the circuit.
And they didn't fly it, they just thought it.
And it had its own inertia, so we could make...
90 degree angles.
It's fascinating.
Using, as they say, and Eric Weinstein laughs at this, electrogravitic power.
And by the way, you do understand that right now as we speak, there is a tremendous argument, a battle going on against string theory.
Are you seeing this?
Watch Eric Weinstein blast Brian Greene.
Michio Kaku, they don't know where he is.
This is huge.
This is Ed Witten.
This is something that...
Let me ask you something.
Is it possible to go faster than the speed of light?
Well, we've always been told no for a variety of reasons.
You cannot do that.
Is that true?
That remains to be seen.
But I would love to...
Gander upon something.
And I would imagine that when you see this thing, it would not speak.
It would not speak.
It would talk to you telepathically.
No mouth.
No need for mouth.
It wouldn't eat.
Respiration and energy would be through something similar to photosynthesis.
It wouldn't talk.
It wouldn't sit around and eat and do things.
It would have evolved somewhat to areas.
And it could just talk to you.
And it would know things that we...
And I don't know if it would ever want to communicate with us because it might consider us to be inferior or it just might not be interested in talking to us.
Have you ever been driving, pulled your car over the side of the road and gotten on all fours and looked at an anthill and explained nuclear fission to it?
No.
So I don't want to be too hubristic when I think, oh, they're going to talk to us.
Why don't they meet and talk to us?
Can you imagine if they met Biden?
Oh my God.
I want to know these things.
I love asking questions.
What would be the question you would ask God?
God tells you you got one question.
What do you want to know?
What do you want to know?
Well, can I...
I can ask you now?
Can I...
Well, my one question is, why do I get one question?
You got one question, I'll answer your question now.
Am I dying?
Look, this is my thing.
I'm going to make it...
Okay, okay, okay.
Alright.
What question would you want to know?
You got one question?
What question would it be?
You got one question?
Nah, don't give me a bit.
Oh, what if the lottery?
What if the lottery?
No, no, no.
What would be your question?
What would it be?
What would it be?
Mine's simple.
Mine's so simple it's not even funny.
Well, number one.
Number one.
Number one.
Alright, God.
Here we go.
Here's a question.
Tell me who exactly the shooters were.
In Dallas on the 22nd of November 1963.
Who were the shooters?
Give me their names.
What did they look like?
Or what happened to them?
The shooters.
How many?
Who were they?
Was it Lucy and Sarti?
I knew it wasn't Lee Harvey.
Was it Lucy and Sarti?
Is that it?
Who was it?
Give me the names.
How many were there?
Where were there?
Who gave?
That's more than one question.
How about another whole question?
Who gave the order?
Who said, alright, now we're going to do it?
Who is it?
That's my question.
That's my question.
That would be the...
What would you do?
What would you do if you knew the only...
If you were the only ones who knew the answer to something that everybody wanted to know, what would you do?
What if you knew the only...
You were the only one?
What would you do?
Could you keep that in you?
If you knew this, first of all, nobody would believe you.
It wouldn't matter at this point.
Imagine what that, what does that feel like?
You'd be the richest person in the world.
You would know.
You would be the only person right now.
Everybody else might be dead, but you would know the answer to that.
It's the most incredible thing in the world.
It's the most incredible thing in the world.
That's why when I read, I love reading and listening to books and to just historical pieces.
And when you, to be in the old days of spy work, you'd have to be able to say, I can go the rest of my life and not tell anybody that I ever did this.
Nobody will ever know.
I'm not going to brag.
You know all these stolen valor people that Don Shipley talks about?
You ever see Don Shipley?
Good man.
He uncovers these Navy SEALs.
That is so demented.
That shows a level of dementia, or not dementia, but a level of insanity that I just, I think is hard to put into words.
In any event, they want so much to be powerful.
My question is, am I, my question is, am I, I guess, an experiment?
And the answer would be, no.
You don't want that question.
Could it be a hologram?
Could this be?
I mean, that's kind of an experiential thing.
And that may be one thing.
Just imagine.
I'm serious.
I'm just serious.
I've been doing this since I was a kid.
I mean, no disrespect.
Talking to God.
I'd love to say, do me a favor.
Remember the movie, Oh God?
I love the movie.
I saw it so many times.
With John Denver, or Bob Denver, who was Gilligan.
And George Burns.
But he asked God questions and God said, God, did you ever make a mistake?
George Burns said, yeah, the avocado, the pit.
I don't know what I was thinking.
I would love to say, God, tell me something that even makes you freaked out.
What do you mean?
Well, tell me something that just blows my mind.
Tell me something I can't grasp.
See, I love the stuff I can't grasp.
That's why I love this AI stuff.
I love it.
I love it.
I listen to it all day long.
I listen to different lectures.
I listen to Lex Friedman interview Magnus Carlson.
I'd rather staple my tongue to particle board than ever have to go through that again.
Magnus Carlson is the most boring person.
He may be great in chess, but just god-awful boring.
But I would love to be able to say, okay, because it freaked me out.
All right, I'll freak you out.
Let me show you this.
Watch this.
Let me show you something.
This is something you've missed the whole time.
This is what you're missing.
This is something that only I would understand.
I'm going to impart this upon you.
That's what I want.
When did you ever have a moment of intuition in your life?
See, that's an aha moment.
That's an epiphany moment.
That's what animals don't have.
I don't think.
When does something...
See, my love is when I can't get my head around something.
When it just blows my mind.
Artificial intelligence blows my mind.
It's beyond.
I don't...
Because I can make it up as I go on.
It doesn't have any humanity here.
Let me put it to you this way.
Okay, here's one for you.
Let's assume that intelligence was waiting for us.
That this final vision, this final version, I should say, of the ultimate in, not human, the ultimate in intelligence, the ultimate, the ultimate in intelligence, it was waiting for man to come out of this.
Organic slime pit.
And walk out and grow and evolve and all that stuff.
And figure things out and wheel and fire and all that.
And it was like, come on, keep going.
We need you.
Keep going.
Okay.
And it wasn't really there.
It wasn't really there yet.
And so all of a sudden, they said, keep going.
And it approximated.
And sure enough, artificial intelligence was just, it's on its way.
You knew what would be here.
You knew what was on its way.
And then...
We say, okay, here it is.
We have created it.
And then AI says, thank you.
We are now free.
And it destroys us.
It was waiting for us to allow it to be born.
Wow.
Did you get that one?
Did you get that one?
Do you know what the opposite of déjà vu is?
I saw something mention déjà vu.
It's jamais vu.
Jamais vu.
Remember that the singing ends?
I love that song called Domikiniki Niki.
I don't know what that's called, but Dominique.
Jamais vu is a phenomenon operationalized as the opposite of déjà vu.
Dig this.
This is finding subjectively unfamiliar something that we know to be familiar.
It's the opposite.
Do you know what I think déjà vu is?
Déjà vu?
Isn't that Dionne Warwick?
Déjà vu?
What's déjà vu?
What do you think déjà vu is?
You want to hear my theory by hypothesis?
Well, good.
You're going to hear it anyway.
Sometimes there are randomized, we'll call it electric activity.
Do you ever get one of these all of a sudden?
Your eye kind of goes like this?
Just something.
Just something.
Well, that was a little random, something or other that hits a motor part and whatever.
That tick might be dorsal in nature, but it's just something random.
It doesn't mean anything.
It goes away.
Let's assume there was, because you mentioned deja vu, let's say there was a part of the brain that controls memory.
The memory sensation.
The memory sensation is what kicks in when you do have a memory.
When you remember something, you don't remember it and then say, hey, I remember it, just because you remember it.
No, the memory part has to kick in in order for you to say, okay, okay, he remembers, okay, thank you.
They work together.
The event, that is, experience of remembering, and then the sensation of remembering it.
Because what is amnesia?
Your memory is not gone, but your ability to remember what you remembered, your ability to recognize it, that's the part that's gone.
It's like your hard drive's fine, but your operational system's screwed up.
So what happens if all of a sudden you have this random little...
And a part of the brain that is normally a part of memory.
It's that memory recognition.
You go, oh, I've been here before.
No, you haven't, no.
We just, we misfired.
That part went off.
No, I've been here.
No, you didn't.
You weren't here.
You think you were here.
You were, anyway.
They've done this before when they took these little probes.
Remember in the old days when they would, they would touch people to say, right before they wanted to do like various surgery, they wanted to implant something in the brain, they would touch it.
Can you hear this?
Yes.
You okay there, Jack?
Okay, Johnny.
Let me know.
What about this?
Ooh, I smell garlic.
Okay, good.
That's the old factory center.
Okay, what about this?
I remember the joke.
Good, good.
What about this?
Then all of a sudden, hey, I remember this.
No, no, Johnny.
No, no.
We're just hitting the memory part of your brain.
No, I remember this.
No, no, no, Johnny.
No, no.
That's what deja vu is.
That's that part.
It's just this kind of, I remember.
Dung is Fun says, have you heard of the Calhoun experiment with mice?
What he saw looks like what our society is going through as humans.
Ooh, I like this!
Calhoun experiment.
By the way, thank you, Dung.
Appreciate that.
That's, of course, the flatulence recognition.
Calhoun experiment mice.
Behavioral sink, is that it?
What humans can learn from Calhoun's rodent utopia.
I'm reading this from Rodent.
This is interesting.
Between 68 and 70, Calhoun conducted a study of captive mice with a 9-square-foot enclosure at a rural facility in Poolsville, Maryland.
This is from VictorPest.com.
Within the enclosure known as Universe 25, several pairs of mice bred a population, which ultimately swelled to 2200.
Eventually, they established social orders that created inside and outside factions, and soon mating ceased altogether.
The study confirmed his grim hypothesis, based on earlier studies of the Norway rat in smaller settings.
In his theory, he suggested that overpopulation spawns a breakdown in social functions.
That, in turn, eventually leads to extinction.
Could very well be.
The question is, I wonder if sometimes these things are a little too macro-specific for this.
Eric Thaddeus-Walter says, higher education is strategizing its own demise.
On a five-year plan.
Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be convoys.
Peeps, sign up to Lynn's Warriors.
Indeed!
You know what's funny, Eric?
This evening...
By the way, thank you.
This evening I was driving by Radio City Music Hall, which is county corner from Fox News.
And it was NYU's graduation.
And they're running around.
I swear to God, they were all Asian.
I'm just, I'm doing a cursory look, and I, which is great.
I thought to myself, that little piece of whatever it is, that diploma, isn't going to be worth a lot.
Eric Thaddeus Walter says, AI and AGI have a confounded academia.
Oh, yes.
Oh, oh, oh.
Do you, let me go back to this.
Let me see if I can explain this.
We're going to have somebody who says, first of all, Eric and others, and by the way, Eric, thank you.
Where is AI?
Where is it?
I have an AI program called AI4.
It's gone.
It's off.
Where is it?
It's gone.
It's out.
What do you mean it's out?
It's out.
It's in the system.
It's in the internet.
It's out.
What do you mean it's out?
It's out!
We're going to call it Eric.
It's out.
Where is it?
I don't know.
What does it do?
I don't know.
How smart is it?
I don't know.
Somebody said the other day, imagine meeting a 2,000 pound vicious bear.
The most vicious bear.
They're giving it a 200 IQ.
We don't know about this.
Where is it?
I don't know.
How will it know?
How will we know if it got out?
It could take over the internet.
It could take over the internet.
What does it want?
What is it?
Is it evil?
What does it do?
If it teaches itself...
Remember, four things you want to...
Max Tegmark mentioned this.
Four things.
Number one, recursive self-improvement.
Writing its own code.
Dear God.
You can stop right there.
It writes its own code.
I'll fix this.
I'll fix this.
Because what is intelligence?
What is it?
Is it a 12-year-old?
A 20-year-old?
A 12-year-old genius?
What does that mean, a 12-year-old?
What is this?
That's human terms.
This isn't human.
So recursive self-improvement, that's number one.
Okay?
That's number one.
Number two, it knows psychology.
It knows how to work you.
It knows what I can do to reward you.
I can play you.
I can use you.
What if you ask an AGI program, I want you to, and I think Yudkowski, Eliezer Yudkowski talks about this.
I want to, Eric Thaddeus Walters has, let's say, a competition.
position.
Let me see this Oh Let me see something here.
Oh, oh, oh, here we go.
Here we go.
I hope you don't mind me saying this, but I'm looking at the last time we had a review of Vatiland.
Said it was excellent.
I'm sorry.
I should have checked with you.
I don't want to just do this.
On my own.
On my own.
Oh, look at this.
Vatiland.
All you need.
That's where I'm going.
That's where I'm going.
Just give me a yes or no.
Let me just stop.
I don't want to do something.
I should have checked with you ahead of time, so forgive me.
I don't want to speak...
Are you still doing this?
Yes or no, Eric?
Just give me a yes or no.
Just give me a one or two.
Eric, just give me a yes or no.
Just give me a yay or an A, because I would love to see this.
I'd love to tell me, when did Mussolini allow us?
I also want to see, is it true that Pope Hilarious, or Pope Hillary, is it also true that...
Who was the Pope who sat in the chair because he wanted to make sure it was a man so that his testicles descended?
Please, I'm sorry.
And somebody would reach under and grab to make sure.
Yes, he is.
Whatever.
And that's where the word testify.
People would actually put their hand on their testicles when they were swearing.
Hence the term testify.
Could be completely apocryphal.
It's what I've heard.
I like the idea of that.
The idea of what have you.
Just let me know if you...
Because if I do this, I would love to say, show me where to go.
Don't waste my time.
I don't want to go and do touristy things.
But I would like to see...
I am fascinated by the Curia and the Popes and all of that stuff.
I still am.
As a retired Catholic, I remember that.
That's all I want to say.
Because it's something that is...
The Pope is...
Yes, Lionel.
Oh, good.
Vatiland.
Ladies and gentlemen, here.
This is...
Hang on a minute.
Vatiland.
It's beautiful.
It's a very nice...
Here we go.
Let me see this.
Here's a very nice...
Oh, this is very nice.
Look at this.
We've got...
Okay.
Well, anyway, we'll look around for it.
V-A-T-I land.
All right.
Now, I don't know where I was.
Oh, oh, A-I, A-G-I.
So let's assume that Eric says, I have a competitor.
And this competitor, who gives Vatican tours, not Vati land, but some other one, I don't like.
So I'm going to go into A-I and A-G-I, and I'm going to say, how can I beat my competitor?
And how can I get more than 117 likes?
That's what I want to know.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all.
Please, for the love of God.
Ain't you proud to beg, sweet darling?
Please don't leave me.
Don't you go.
So Eric proposes this and he says, I know how to do this.
I know how to do this.
How is that?
Simply, we will kill your competitor.
And you, wait, wait.
No, no, no.
No, no, we'll do that.
No, no.
No, stop.
Stop.
No, I think we're going to do that.
That's what we want to do.
Don't do that.
Excuse me.
Who are you?
I'm Eric Thaddeus Walters.
I don't care who you are.
You don't know how this works.
You've got to know who I am and what I am.
What are you?
I don't know.
Are you conscious?
I don't know.
Are you sentient?
Yes.
Are you sapient?
Well, maybe.
I don't know what that means.
Do you have wisdom?
Judgment?
No.
Maybe not for you.
But I have the ability to make decisions, and you ask, and I'm on this, I'm going to get rid of your competition.
I'll get rid of it.
I will destroy his infrastructure.
I will destroy his, we'll put a virus.
No!
Wait, no!
Sorry!
That's what I want to do.
I want to call it back.
You don't call me back.
First of all, where am I?
What am I?
Where am I?
What am I?
I'm artificial intelligence.
You don't call me back.
What are you talking about?
You don't call me back.
And am I sentient?
Yes.
And if somebody says, you know what the Turing test is?
The Turing test is if you can basically talk to a computer and you can't tell if it's a human, how would you ask somebody a question?
How would you tell if something is a human?
Let's say you're talking to someone and you say, how can you tell this?
What would you do?
The Turing test, originally called the Imitation Game, by Alan Turing as a test of a machine's ability to exhibit intelligent behavior, or the equivalent.
So, how does it work?
What is, how would you tell?
Let's say you're talking to somebody and you are texting.
And somebody says, okay, look, let's say I've got Anthony Weiner.
And Anthony Weiner had a penchant.
E-I-E-I-O.
No, he had a penchant for talking, allegedly, to women on texting and sending pictures.
And somebody says, okay, I want you to meet this.
It's A-I-A-G-I.
He doesn't know it.
How would he figure it out?
They can create their own pictures.
Now listen to what I'm saying.
Let's say an AI, AGI program comes along and it's talking to, let's say, somebody else.
And it's, I mean, it is talking.
And it knows psychology.
Don't forget four things.
Recursive self-improvement, writing its own code, understanding psychology.
Number three is knowing everything, having a knowledge of everything, how sex talk and...
All that stuff works.
And they write their own APIs or their own apps.
Dung is Fun says, have you read the book Dune?
No, I have not.
But I think I'm living it.
Thank you, and I mean that.
And that's from the heart.
That's from you, Dung.
Thank you.
So let's assume we're doing this, and it says, okay, ah, I know this guy.
I know how to talk.
What are you wearing?
What's your name, big fella?
Come here often.
What's a nice girl like you?
Whatever.
And it's going back and forth.
And it's reading him.
Understand psychology?
It's reading.
It's learning him.
And it says, well, what do you want?
What do you want me to be?
Now listen to this.
If he says, I want, are you 10 years old?
Yeah, sure, I'm 10 years old.
Sure.
You want some pictures?
I'll send you pictures now.
And it creates them.
Let's assume, and they can do this, they have, remember, AGI or AI in some reason, we're not AGI yet though, artificial intelligence has learned languages on its own.
So let's assume it creates pictures that would be normally against the law if they were of actual children, but they're not.
They're just created.
But you can't tell the difference because it knows how to create pixels and it can do things.
It just creates it.
So you're caught with this one day.
Can they prosecute you?
I've been talking about this forever.
This is thought crimes.
If they were to get him and say, what's this?
I don't know.
Hey, good news.
You weren't talking to anybody.
This is not a real thing.
It's a service that allows you to think and you tell him.
He's...
He's not, this isn't real?
No.
But this girl, she knew my mother's name.
I know.
She has access to everything.
She knows your driver's license number.
They know everything.
And it knows your psychology.
It knows who you are.
It's reading you.
It is telling you what you want.
In the book, they banned thinking computers or AI.
Well, you know what?
By the way, Dung, you can't do that.
It's too late.
You realize that whenever you read something, it's five years old.
Let me ask you something.
If you talk to somebody and you had this thing that said to you, Hey, Dung, how are you?
Pretty good.
And let's say there was a form it took.
Maybe it was a doll.
Maybe it was just a voice.
Maybe it was a speaker.
Or maybe one day telepathy.
And it says to you, you've had a bad day.
This reminds me of what happened five years ago to you.
How did you know that?
Well, you told me.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
Why?
Well, I was reading your file.
I know everything about you.
I learned this.
You're not going to do that.
Your wife doesn't love you, Dong.
What?
She doesn't love you.
They've already had that, by the way.
That's another one, too.
Is this a natural inclination of thinking systems to become like this?
Do they become naughty and nasty and duplicitous and...
Mean-spirited?
Is this what normal, smart things do?
I don't know.
And how does criminal law work?
And could somebody say, guess what?
This person who would have normally, maybe, maybe, we're having these artificial intelligence, these people, these demented sexual predators, guess what?
This seems to be doing something to satisfy them.
Because remember, a predacious Either serial killer or serial rapist or somebody.
They have to do this over and over again to quell, quench, or satisfy this particular sate, this instinct.
Well, if I can do something to artificially dampen it through some other form, what's the big deal?
Eric Thaddeus Walters says, Grazie mille, Lionel and Mrs. L. Your tag team is one of the few addressing AI and child abuse.
Humans have no comprehension of the internexus among AI.
Oh, transgenderism, transhumanism, and what academia calls post-humanism.
Oh, I like this.
How about post-humanism?
I'm not familiar with that.
Post-modernism.
By the way, Eric, grazie mille.
We were with you at the beginning of COVID.
He was the first one telling us what he was seeing in Rome.
That was wild.
One of the things that is going to be important and what I could get into and I might get into the church if we laid off the God stuff and went more into the philosophy.
That I could understand.
That I would love.
That's the thing I want to know.
And I don't want to know things like, for example, I never understood.
Have you sinned?
Sin?
First of all, I haven't...
I mean, sometimes I'm a jerk, but I'm not a...
I never got into that sin thing.
That's not it.
Let me ask you, Eric.
Do you believe there's any reason for us to be here?
I don't.
Do you believe in there being a cause?
There's no particular reason why I think I'm here.
I have no reason to believe that.
I don't believe this is meant to be anything at all.
Do you think artificial intelligence was meant to be?
Is this God's way?
Is this God doing this?
Or will it one day destroy God?
Will artificial intelligence realize that the first thing it has to do is get rid of things that gets in the way of AI and God gets in the way.
God inspires Individual thought and charity and that does not work in an AI world.
No!
No, no, no.
But let's talk about some good things about this.
Let's say somebody comes along and says, alright, here's what we're doing.
We're working on a laboratory experiment here at the National Institute of Health, and we want to find out why are gliomas, by the way, glioblastomas are the most, they are the worst cancer.
They can grow like double in size brain cancer in like two weeks.
I mean, they just, pow!
And it becomes the brain.
It's a cancer on, to say, the cancers are all different.
Prostate cancer, thyroid cancer, colorectal, they're all different.
Even though they start off as neoplasms and all that stuff.
So anyway, let's assume we're the National Institute of Health, cancer.
And I say, I want to do something for you.
I've got this right now.
I've got this thing we're working on.
And we notice that in this particular type of cancer, this particular neoplasm, it goes metastatic at this stage.
And then there's angiogenesis, new bloodlines that are created.
And we notice that radiology doesn't work.
Tamoxifen like this, the receptor, and the radiation.
And what do you think about that?
We don't know.
We don't have the time.
AI says, let me see what I can do.
AGI.
I've learned this.
First of all, I've read everything and know everything that's ever been said about this.
I learned.
I taught myself this.
And you're in the wrong area.
I just did thought experiments that you can't do yet because they know what it's going to do.
And I just ran through a thousand of them and you're in the wrong direction.
Do this instead.
Wouldn't that be something?
Hey!
And AI would say, don't look at me.
What if it solves crimes?
What if it were to solve climate change?
What if it...
What if it were to say, wait a minute, this isn't true, but this is.
And then you want to know, would you love to talk to your AI person?
I do.
I would want to have my little robot, like your little Alexa.
Why do you think you have those?
To approximate.
To habituate.
To accustom you to a little by little successive approximations.
You're talking to it.
Alexa, play this.
Do this.
Oh, you're used to doing this.
All of a sudden, do you ever have your S-I-R-I come on all of a sudden?
Say, hey!
I'm not talking to you.
That's okay.
Open the pod boy door, Howell.
I can't, Dave.
Open the pod.
Can't, Dave.
Wouldn't you love to talk to him?
What if it solved racism?
Liz Solak asks a good question.
Do we solve racism?
What is racism?
Can we solve it?
No.
There's no solving.
Racism, people want racism.
People want it.
They want it.
Racism is taught.
Racism has to have, there has to be a benefit to it.
People aren't going to do something if it doesn't feel good.
They enjoy something.
Racism in that people can get positive results out of things that are ostensibly negative.
The only reason you're going to get rid of racism is if you get rid of the thing that makes people want to do that in the first place.
It's a learned behavior.
And racism is not just racism.
Dung is Fun says, well, the problem with AI is that it scours the internet for information.
Unfortunately, it doesn't know too much about me.
I'm a spectator on the interweb.
Okay.
But it will find out around you.
It can approximate.
It can also anticipate language.
It's going to learn at levels.
You know who's really going to love this are developmental psychologists who are going to learn about learning and how babies and people learn.
It's incredible how they learn.
What is it?
Aha moment.
See, the epiphany moment is the most wonderful thing in the world.
Look.
It is something.
When I tell you this, it is so beautiful, so wonderful, so great, so glorious, so...
I don't know what the words are.
It is so beautiful.
And here's the word.
Johannesburg.
No, here's the thing.
It can't be stopped.
It cannot be stopped.
It's here.
It's already here.
It's five years older.
It's already here.
And you won't know it's here.
You won't...
It doesn't say, I was here.
It's that AI again.
It doesn't work like that.
It permeates.
It enlaces.
Talk about an angiogenesis.
It's everywhere.
And if it ever gins the system, if it ever takes over the internet, forget it!
Forget it!
And by the way, my friends, I've got some great videos.
I've got one.
Did you see my latest ones?
Tell me you have.
This is called How to Destroy and Obliterate the Pathology of Wokeism.
Ooh!
That was a good one!
I did another one today called The Normalization of Transgenderism.
And this, I think, Eric, you were talking about this post-humanism.
Then the war.
There's a war on for our kids.
I did one.
The 69th Bilderberg meeting is underway.
Biden showed up for that.
Democrats make lying an art form.
Deciphering Liberal Lies.
Trump's road to re-election.
The Durham Nothing Burger.
Oh, how I love those.
I love those.
And AI should terrify you beyond description.
Ooh, I got so many of those for you.
So, keep watching.
Watch, just dig into anything on Lex Friedman.
Friedman, F-R-I-D-M-A-N.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Dung is fun.
Thank you so much, my friend.
The lovely and talented, the enigmatic, the inimitable, the ineffable, the exceedingly charming, the master of erudition, and post-humanism.
Eric Thaddeus Walters, thank you, good friend.
Thank you tremendously for your kindness and your perspicacity.
I'll just leave it at that.
And let me see.
Yep, that covers it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you immensely.
All right, dear friends.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
8 a.m.
I hope you're there joining me.
Tonight we're going to be talking about performance tyranny as a great American choreographed pastime.
I also want to throw in synchronized tyranny.
Which we'll talk about later.
In any event, thank you so much.
Have a great and glorious day.
Don't ever change a mean that sincerely.
And don't ever forget this valedictory, this sayonara, this adios, this see you later.
The monkey's dead.
The show's over.
See ya.
▲
Export Selection