Lionel Nation - RFK Jr. and Tucker Carlson Pose Existential Threats to Shadow Government Sockpuppet Orthodoxy
Aired: 2023-05-06
Duration: 14:30


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[00:01:31]  Now look, I'm not one of these Tucker Carlson acolytes, nor am I Bobby Kennedy Jr.
[00:01:39]  Well, maybe, maybe more, maybe Bobby Kennedy Jr., but not Tucker.
[00:01:43]  But let me explain to you again why they're important.
[00:01:47]  Because nobody's explaining this to you.
[00:01:49]  Nobody's describing this.
[00:01:51]  It's the usual stuff.
[00:01:54]  You get the most mindless news missing the significance of it.
[00:01:59]  It's not how many viewers were lost after Tucker was removed.
[00:02:05]  We're going to be talking about that.
[00:02:07]  That's not it.
[00:02:09]  That's not it.
[00:02:10]  We're not talking about that.
[00:02:12]  We're talking about something even more important.
[00:02:15]  Something very simple.
[00:02:16]  But let me just explain something first.
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[00:04:04]  Now let me get down to brass tacks.
[00:04:07]  For some reason or another, I don't know what it is, but most people have missed the point that Tucker Carlson and Bobby Kennedy represent two watershed moments here in American politics.
[00:04:21]  Listen to what I'm saying.
[00:04:23]  Democrats and Republicans Mean nothing.
[00:04:27]  Two sides of the same code.
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[00:04:36]  Do you think there's some huge significant difference between...
[00:04:40]  No!
[00:04:41]  Nothing!
[00:04:42]  Nothing!
[00:04:43]  And what Fox News is doing right now, because forget it, Fox News is only important because they represent basically the official station of the Republican Party.
[00:04:54]  And you know what it is?
[00:04:55]  Nothing.
[00:04:56]  Look at what they're talking about.
[00:04:57]  Blinking in the memo.
[00:04:59]  That doesn't even cover it.
[00:05:02]  You've got people like Tommy Lahren.
[00:05:04]  Tommy Lahren?
[00:05:06]  Look, with all due respect, good for her.
[00:05:09]  But you've got to be kidding me.
[00:05:11]  I'm an adult.
[00:05:12]  I'm an adult!
[00:05:13]  I've been studying this my whole life and you're throwing Tommy Lahren at me?
[00:05:17]  Are you kidding me?
[00:05:19]  Or Judge Jeanine?
[00:05:21]  Or some comic?
[00:05:23]  Do you really think some guy named Typhus?
[00:05:25]  Do you see what's happening?
[00:05:26]  Get rid of Tucker because he talked about things that were deeper.
[00:05:30]  Now he's not perfect.
[00:05:32]  Don't think for one minute that he really is plumbing the depths of everything but he is like...
[00:05:38]  Ed Witten compared to these people.
[00:05:40]  They're like Mr. Rogers.
[00:05:42]  It's silly.
[00:05:43]  It's nothing.
[00:05:44]  It's base.
[00:05:46]  It's simple.
[00:05:47]  The usual stuff.
[00:05:49]  No hits, no runs, no errors.
[00:05:51]  And that's the Republican Party.
[00:05:54]  But all of a sudden, this Tucker guy comes along and he's talking about Ukraine and Russia and maybe giving you a narrative that other people don't necessarily...
[00:06:05]  And also he's talking about things like UFOs.
[00:06:08]  Kind of, sort of, but not really.
[00:06:10]  That was very, very titular.
[00:06:12]  He wasn't even going close enough.
[00:06:14]  But he's talking about other things.
[00:06:17]  Uniparty and the like.
[00:06:19]  He mentioned Orban.
[00:06:20]  He mentioned actually having a degree of depth to show you more of the bigger picture.
[00:06:29]  And Bobby Kennedy.
[00:06:31]  Bobby Kennedy.
[00:06:34]  Has covered, I mean, if there's anybody, anybody who is as singularly consonant with the way I think, it's Bobby Kennedy.
[00:06:49]  And I keep thinking to myself, this can't be.
[00:06:51]  I must be missing.
[00:06:53]  Not a Kennedy and his own family turned their back on him.
[00:06:57]  Oh, he's good.
[00:06:59]  He was decrying this kind of a new world order reset since, you know, American imperialism and Allende.
[00:07:06]  That's my kind of stuff.
[00:07:08]  My view of the world is more, dare I say, you're going to get it in foreign European press.
[00:07:18]  Mine is more international.
[00:07:21]  Oh, yeah.
[00:07:23]  Oh, no, no, I don't.
[00:07:23]  Listen, I know this sounds highfalutin, but I am, put it this way.
[00:07:28]  I have always said, you're missing the point.
[00:07:32]  American news, American media, and American issues have been base.
[00:07:36]  Now these two people, let me explain to you something.
[00:07:39]  This is why it's important.
[00:07:40]  For the first time, I would stop what I was doing.
[00:07:45]  I would stop.
[00:07:46]  If I were a billionaire, influencer, I would go to campus after campus, if you don't even have those anymore, I would go on social media and I would say, listen to what we're saying.
[00:08:05]  Two people here.
[00:08:08]  One that you would think is a prototypical conservative, who was Tucker, and he's really not.
[00:08:12]  And one who you think is a prototypical, archetypal Democrat and liberal, and he's not.
[00:08:18]  Though they might have some.
[00:08:19]  Put them together and you have a chiral opposite.
[00:08:24]  Not like a mirror image.
[00:08:26]  They compliment.
[00:08:28]  You can't superimpose them.
[00:08:31]  This is where we are.
[00:08:33]  There are people in the world like me who say, I think we've already exhausted the subject of gender issues in sports.
[00:08:41]  Not that that's not important, but we've killed that story.
[00:08:45]  We have destroyed it.
[00:08:46]  I want to move on.
[00:08:48]  We're talking about this notion of hegemony.
[00:08:52]  We're talking about a unipolar world.
[00:08:53]  We're talking about using the intel state as a truncheon, as a bludgeon, as some type of a fulcrum against international comity, respect.
[00:09:09]  Nobody has explained to you yet how Europe works, especially after a post-Soviet Union.
[00:09:17]  Post-Kenan, in a kind of a Mearsheimer world, realism.
[00:09:24]  Nobody's even discussed that.
[00:09:26]  You haven't even understood, understood what China stands for, what China represents.
[00:09:35]  And if I was going to tell you something, you better respect these people.
[00:09:39]  You better understand it.
[00:09:41]  This is what I'm trying to tell you.
[00:09:43]  And maybe Tucker could do this.
[00:09:45]  I think he's on his way.
[00:09:49]  Bobby Kennedy too.
[00:09:52]  But my goal is very simply this.
[00:09:54]  I want you to understand how they think.
[00:09:57]  Be empathic.
[00:10:00]  You can sit around like Maria Bartiromo all day long and talk about how terrible China is.
[00:10:04]  I know.
[00:10:04]  I got it.
[00:10:05]  I got it.
[00:10:06]  I know about that.
[00:10:07]  That's not what I want to hear.
[00:10:09]  I want a new politics, a new party, a new, not a unit party, a new way of looking at things, irrespective of party.
[00:10:18]  I want people who are able to talk about things like biomedical tyranny, biomedical martial law.
[00:10:24]  I want to be able to look at how the world is going to be dealing with international sovereignty and individual sovereignty.
[00:10:33]  You've got to ask yourself this question.
[00:10:36]  Think about this.
[00:10:37]  There could very well be a case in which you as a person, let's say, are virulent.
[00:10:47]  You are teeming with hepatitis.
[00:10:51]  You are a walking contagion everywhere you go.
[00:10:57]  Or you have some, in the old days, when we talked about that, it was during the AIDS outbreak.
[00:11:02]  People were going out and people who were HIV positive who were having indiscriminate sex.
[00:11:08]  What is your individual autonomy compared to the safety of the world by virtue of your traversing and the like and spreading and disseminating your particular pathogen?
[00:11:21]  Think about that!
[00:11:22]  How do you balance that?
[00:11:24]  That's what we have to talk about.
[00:11:25]  But we're not.
[00:11:26]  We're not.
[00:11:27]  It's an either-or world.
[00:11:29]  We have to figure out how do we fit in the world?
[00:11:33]  How do we look at real, realpolitik?
[00:11:37]  It was redundant, but...
[00:11:39]  Do you think...
[00:11:40]  Do you think...
[00:11:42]  Well, let me ask you, better yet.
[00:11:44]  This attack on the Kremlin.
[00:11:46]  Who do you think that...
[00:11:47]  Do you think Putin did that to himself?
[00:11:50]  Do you think he blew up his own place?
[00:11:52]  Could it be?
[00:11:52]  Could it be?
[00:11:53]  Do you think it's a false flag?
[00:11:54]  Do you want to talk about it?
[00:11:56]  Nord Stream 2, do you want to talk about that?
[00:11:57]  Do you think he blew up his own pipeline?
[00:12:00]  Where's Germany in all this?
[00:12:02]  What happens?
[00:12:03]  Where does this fit in?
[00:12:05]  How does this fit into the world?
[00:12:08]  This is the thing I cannot understand.
[00:12:10]  Let me explain something to you.
[00:12:12]  This is very, very important.
[00:12:13]  Very, very critical.
[00:12:14]  There are things that are happening right now which I find fascinating.
[00:12:19]  And what we're seeing right now is something which is difficult for me to explain.
[00:12:25]  Difficult to explain to a lot of folks.
[00:12:28]  Because they don't understand where we're going with this.
[00:12:33]  How things fit into the world.
[00:12:37]  Let me ask you something very, very quickly.
[00:12:39]  I made a note of this.
[00:12:41]  And you have to hear this out.
[00:12:43]  Can you tell me the difference between?
[00:12:45]  Can you explain to me?
[00:12:48]  ESG via WEF, HRC and CEI, DEI, BLM and CLS, CRT and the CRITs.
[00:12:55]  Can you explain that to me?
[00:12:57]  World Economic Forum and ESG.
[00:12:59]  And ESG grays in the right.
[00:13:01]  Human Rights Campaign, HRC and CEI, Corporate Equality Index.
[00:13:06]  Can you tell me how that works?
[00:13:07]  Because that's what Anheuser-Busch was about.
[00:13:09]  Can you talk about DEI?
[00:13:11]  Can you talk about BLM?
[00:13:13]  Can you talk about, well, BLM still, they're still there.
[00:13:15]  What about CLS, Critical Legal Studies and Critical Race Theory, and the CRITS, C-R-I-T-S?
[00:13:22]  Can you explain this to me?
[00:13:24]  How does this work?
[00:13:27]  Where does this fit in?
[00:13:29]  I want somebody to explain this to me.
[00:13:31]  Not Tommy Lahren, with all due respect, or Judge Jeanine, or Gut Bucket, or any of these other folks.
[00:13:39]  That's childish.
[00:13:40]  You want kindergarten news?
[00:13:42]  Please, have at it.
[00:13:43]  It's a free country.
[00:13:44]  But there are a lot of us who need to go beyond that.
[00:13:47]  And we go to Citizen, Civilian, Alternative, and Foreign, Foreign News.
[00:13:53]  That's where we're learning it.
[00:13:55]  And right now, Tucker Carlson and Bobby Kennedy Jr. pose existential threats to the, you would call the Uniparty, the Heritage Party, whatever you want to call it.
[00:14:05]  I'm putting my money behind them.
[00:14:07]  And it may not be, and listen, I don't want to get to know these people.
[00:14:11]  I don't know if I would like them.
[00:14:13]  I don't know if they're my cup of tea.
[00:14:14]  They're not out to be my friends.
[00:14:16]  I have enough friends.
[00:14:17]  What I want is I want leadership and I want new ideas and I want people to wake up.
[00:14:21]  You got that?
[00:14:22]  Good.
[00:14:23]  Now do me a favor.
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