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May 4, 2023 - Lionel Nation
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Marine Subway Choker Under Investigation, Biden Under Investigation, Election2024 Is the Focus
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Good day.
I hope you're ready for this one today because we're going to...
We're going to convene a grand jury to talk about something which I know you're going to find fascinating.
And if I can, I'm going to try to take you through the legal theories, the legal thinking behind what is going on involving a case that I want to teach you to take what you feel and separate it.
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We used to do these.
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Now, let's talk about this.
Here is the story, and I want to give you the entire background before we get into this.
This is what's important.
I want you to be able to say, here is what I think.
This is the way the law handles things and this is the way ultimately it will be addressed.
What I think has nothing to do with reality.
I found that out.
What I think has nothing to do with reality.
The music I think is good, nobody cares about.
I see stuff that's just incredible other people don't even...
Recognize it.
Here is the story and listen to what we are seeing.
Whenever you read a story, do not go to the news source that you agree with.
Go to what other people are saying who might report on something differently than you see.
Okay.
A 24-year-old former Marine It is reported, put an erratic, loud, obstreperous, violent subway passenger in a headlock.
It's not a headlock.
It's a choke.
Naked rear choke, whatever you want to call it.
Until he died.
And it was captured on camera.
The fight broke on.
Broke out at the Broadway Lafayette Station on Monday when a 30-year-old man identified by the New York Post as Jordan Neely entered the subway car and started threatening passengers.
Witnesses reported that he was acting in a hostile and erratic manner.
Before a younger man put him into what some people call a headlock, some can call it a chokehold, and held him there until he was unconscious.
In a clip, a video clip that was of course taken by people who were at the scene, the younger man could be seen holding Mr. Neely down on the floor.
While he tried to free himself from this lock, this headlock or choke, whatever you want to call it, before suddenly going limp.
The Marine, the former Marine, was arrested after the fight and Mr. Neely was taken to Lenox Hill Hospital where he was pronounced dead.
And police, right now, as we speak, as we speak, Police and the District Attorney Alvin Bragg are trying to figure out what to do.
Now, it has been ruled that the cause of death is a homicide.
Let me explain what that means.
This is important to note.
A homicide.
There are five, five, five, five types of Death.
Okay?
Death.
The best way is the mnemonic, not the acronym.
I should say, what am I saying?
Not a mnemonic.
Pardon me, it is an acronym.
People use acronym incorrectly.
It is an acronym.
And NASH, think of this.
A mnemonic is a word, like a series of letters that are...
That are a sentence, like, kings play chess on Friday, generally speaking, is kingdom of phylum order, kings play chess, kingdom phylum class order, family, genus, species, right?
This is an acronym.
This is NASH.
Natural, accidental, suicide, or homicide.
And the fifth is theoretically undetermined.
Paul Rodriguez, Raul rather, Muchísimas gracias.
And manual crepitations for you, sir.
This is, of course, how I symbolize my love and respect for you and my thank, by taking the power of nature and reducing it to this familiar and yet tragic sound in some respects.
So thank you.
Now, when he comes in, if he dies, was it natural?
Well, it's interesting.
It could be natural.
Because he might have died for other reasons.
He might have expired accidental or adjacent to this.
That's number one.
Could be natural.
It was his time to go and you just happen to have this hold on him.
Accidental.
Well, yes, normally accidental, we think sometimes in terms of your accident, not somebody who accidentally does something to you.
Suicide, well it wasn't suicide.
Homicide is death caused by someone else.
Death at the hands of someone else.
When people are executed on their death certificate, it says homicide.
Somebody else.
Unexplained is obviously in the case of Kaylee Anthony.
Casey Anthony's daughter.
They found a skull.
They don't know what it was.
So right now, you could probably say that compression, asphyxiation, I guarantee you there's going to be far more review of this case than was done in the Epstein matter.
But it is not at all unlikely or uncommon for this to happen.
Now let me stop right there.
Let me put this story aside for a moment.
I have been waiting for this to happen like you, well, for the longest time.
Why do I say that?
We live in an ultimate fighting world right now.
An ultimate fighting world.
Rear naked joke this.
I remember one time.
It was an interview with Dr. Michael Bodden.
And he was talking about, believe it or not, I believe it was Jeffrey Epstein.
And he was on with Sean Hannity.
And Sean Hannity, I remember seeing this, Sean Hannity could not stop talking, which he does oftentimes, where he will do all the talking, and the guest is sitting there like, what the hell am I doing here?
And if he says bleach bit, I don't know what it was.
He's a tremendous talent, but he does have this idiosyncratic tendency to do too much talking.
And he was telling Michael Biden about, well, it's a rear naked chokehold, because I do this.
Because, Dr. Biden, you probably don't know this, I'm a martial arts.
It's my CIA pin too.
So, not only am I a government agent, which I let the people know, I'm an expert at this.
Okay.
Everybody's into this.
Joe Rogan, Boss Rutan, UFC, sleepers, carotid restraints, plus, plus a plethora of YouTube videos of vigilantes coming to the aid and putting someone to sleep and instead of just Taking them out and letting go, allowing the blood to return and everything like that.
It's not this prolonged there for X amount of time.
And I don't know if anybody ever sits there and says, now, let's talk about two things at our UFC class.
Number one is how to apply this.
We called it the sleeper hold.
It's been around since the beginning of time.
Carotid restraint.
You got it?
Hypoxia, anoxia, that's it.
You got it?
This is what happens.
It's a choke.
Technically, there was a fellow, and people get into the thing about a choke.
When you hear that, somebody is gasping for air.
This is different.
It just lights out.
It's a different story.
This is what happens when people will sometimes hang themselves on doorknobs and things like that.
You do not need a lot of pressure.
See, there's this thing.
I don't want to get too much into this.
And please, if there are children listening, do not do this.
But we have to understand this.
Because if we're going to talk about this subject, we have to have at least a rudimentary understanding of how things work.
First and foremost, first and foremost, let me explain to you this.
This idea, somehow, of the hangman, of people dropping and all that, that's from the movies.
That's from...
That's Hollywood.
Yes, it's been done, and yes, it's been done before.
But if you've seen how it's very simple to do this, there are folks, and you've seen them in various countries, Where people sometimes are executed at the end of a cannon, you know, the barrel, not the turret, but the barrel of a cannon, they'll just lift it up and people will kick a little bit and that's it.
It's gone.
There's no dropping.
There's none of that stuff.
What I'm trying to do is stop this choking business, this UFC stuff.
Don't do this.
Don't do this.
You don't know what you're doing.
Nobody ever says.
I guarantee you.
And I love these people.
Joe Rogan, who's terrific, of course.
I'm a big fan.
Boss Rootin.
How do you get rid of a rear naked choke?
Nobody says this.
Don't do this!
You're going to kill somebody.
What?
It's not putting them to sleep.
Sounds so quaint, doesn't it?
It's like with your dog.
You put your dog to sleep.
Yes, it's called putting your dog down.
Don't do this.
You don't know what's happening here.
You see these videos on TV.
Oh, he's a hero.
And by the way, this is not meant in any way to slight this young man.
I'm just talking about this thing that people are doing.
It's the same thing I want to tell you about guns.
If you want to use a gun, if you think people should all be armed, are you kidding me?
Seriously.
You know, I am an absolute Second Amendment fan, as I am a fan and an adherent to the Constitution of the United States.
I believe in the Constitution.
Tench Cox.
I visit his grave in Philadelphia.
Tench Cox is the greatest...
One of our great forebears who speaks about the militia, but I am telling you this.
It's easier.
There's theory and there's practice.
So when you do this, because you've been watching TV and you've been watching Bas Rutten, who's very entertaining, and all these people, all of a sudden, Muay Thai and the Gracie, and all of this stuff.
That's wonderful.
But they go like this, and that's it.
Okay, there's a tap out.
The guy goes out.
He's out.
That's it.
And even that's kind of scary.
Hypoxia?
Carotid restraint?
You sure you know what you're doing?
But luckily, it's this.
Done.
Or people tap out before they go out.
Or whatever it is.
And there's so many ways to do it.
Legs.
And it's really something.
It's a great equalizer.
Have you seen these videos of these smaller, kind of more...
Quote, petite women who go in because they're so wiry.
They get some big hulking guy.
Your legs are...
I don't care who you are.
Your leg of a girl is like the bicep of Franco Columbo.
Not Columbo.
Columbo.
I don't want to get into this stuff.
But you really have to understand how this thing works.
Because you're seeing this.
We live in a world where it's immersed in this ultimate fighting stuff.
And we think, because nobody even fights anymore.
Nobody stands like this.
No, it's all takedowns.
And my favorite, this is where people are going to get full body slams.
On concrete, there is a video, you've seen this before, of this kind of a hulking kid, very passive, very passive, who's being pushed by this smaller kid.
Pushed, pushed, pushed.
And then one day, one moment, the larger student says, I've had enough of this, picks the kid up, and I mean slams him on cement.
If that head hits the wrong way, it's a Christopher Reeve like that.
If he dies, it's murder or involuntary manslaughter or reckless disregard, second degree, whatever it is.
And you can talk about, well, he had it coming.
Oh, yeah?
Okay, we'll get to the law part in a moment.
This is where we are right now.
And you want to give guns to people?
Are you kidding me?
And you'll never see a better...
Do I believe in carry permits?
Absolutely.
Open carry?
No.
Lauren Boebert?
No.
No.
AR-15's about...
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
Mm-mm.
See, that's where reality, in theory, is a different story.
You see, I believe that...
Drugs should not be subject, possession of drugs should not be the subject of criminal prosecution, but we are being destroyed in New York by virtue of these cannabis shops and these demented people constantly walking around, gooned out of their minds.
So, theory is one thing, reality and practicality are a different story.
Now, back to the story.
Is it a homicide?
Probably.
Probably.
What does the law say?
What does the law say?
I'm glad you asked.
Number one, do you have the right to defend yourself and others?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Self-defense?
You betcha.
If this Marine were to go in front of this man and say, hey!
Leave these people alone.
And the fellow were to try to swing at the Marine, and he hits them and knocks them out.
You're going to say, well, this was clearly self-defense, and that self-defense was warranted because he was defending others.
Clean.
Imagine this scenario.
A homeless man, again, they're always called homeless.
He was mentally ill.
He's not homeless.
He's mentally ill.
Anyway.
And not, let me stop right there.
Stop.
Stop.
99. Boy, 99% of all mentally ill people are not violent!
When you say mentally ill, think diabetic.
Think, you know, somebody who has irritable bowel syndrome.
It's current, but it doesn't mean that they're necessarily violent.
Because we use the word homeless sometimes as Metaphors and replacements for mental illness.
And mental illness does not mean violence.
That being said.
In this case, if this Marine had gone in and hit him, and let's say he fell back and hit his head, hey, that's an accident.
Because what he did up to that moment was fine.
But here's the kicker.
And this is where...
You're going to really pay attention.
And I've got a friend of mine who was telling me about how he was going to get a shotgun or a rifle to protect his home and he couldn't answer any questions as to when he could even use this.
The rule is simple.
You must meet force with force.
If you want to defend yourself, go ahead.
But, force with force.
What do I mean?
If somebody says, hey!
Fatso!
Oh yeah?
Bang!
No!
No, no, no.
Words alone, fighting words on a fly, okay, whatever.
If somebody comes up to your car and says, and this really gets interesting, this really, in some jurisdictions, listen to what I'm saying.
Assault.
Normally, assault is attempted battery.
Battery is the impermissible touching of another against their will.
This is battery.
If you walk up to somebody and go, hey, if you kiss somebody, that's battery.
You touch somebody against their will without permission.
And there was no mistake.
You know, there was no, like when you go, hey, how are you?
No, no, no.
There was a greeting.
No.
The most insignificant of touching can be a battery.
You don't have to hurt anybody.
Aggravated battery ups it a little bit.
It's kind of like the Trump scenario of the business records.
Becoming a felony.
You take some core behavior, you add some facts on, and all of a sudden you elevate it.
Take battery, simple battery, or assault, as it's called in a lot of jurisdictions.
They don't make a distinction between attempted battery and battery.
But that's why, by the way, if...
Assault is attempted battery.
There really can be no such thing as attempted assault because assault would be attempted battery, which doesn't make any sense in any event.
So, take battery and then add a little bit to it.
Add a great bodily harm or a deadly weapon and now you've got aggravated battery or mayhem or...
All these other particular words and phrases.
Ladies and gentlemen, John McGuire couldn't get higher, says, I think it's self-defense considering police department don't face similar charges for accidents.
However, I tend to think he'll get involuntary manslaughter with probation only.
John McGuire, first of all, thank you.
Thank you very much.
Let's take what you say.
Number one.
Considering the police don't face similar charges for accidents, police are in a different position because we give police the ability to carry a gun, to have a badge, to touch people.
Police can do stuff to you you can't do to anybody else.
Police can walk into your home, theoretically.
They can pull you over.
You can't pull people over.
They can tell you to stop.
They can order you to stop.
They can throw you in the back of a car and if you did it, it would be kidnapping or false imprisonment.
Which is a kidnapping statute.
That's why people say, whoa, citizens arrest.
Don't you stay away from that citizens arrest.
I don't even know what the hell that means.
People talk about this.
Citizens arrest.
What does that mean?
Police can do things you can't.
Police carry a gun.
Police can say, halt.
You can't do that.
Police officer can tase you.
You can't do that.
Police officer has a dog.
They can send a dog into you.
You can't do that.
So a police officer...
They don't face similar charges because we, by virtue of their badge, we contract with them.
We say, you know what we're going to do?
We're going to give, and by the way, limited liability is a problem they're doing.
They want to get away with it.
I can't imagine anybody wanting to be a cop now.
Cannot imagine for the life of me anybody who wants to be a cop now.
Now, you think it's self-defense.
Well, John, here's the issue.
It is self-defense, but did he meet?
Did he, again, address the level of force?
What was he doing?
Now, here is the thing.
If the evidence, and remember what I'm telling you, don't read, don't pay attention to what you read in the newspaper, don't pay attention to what you read in the newspaper, whatever you see online, you don't know anything.
Because you can get, there may be somebody at the end of the train who says, oh no, no, he said I'm going to kill you.
Oh no, no, he went for something in his hand.
Oh no, no, he had something and he dropped it.
What?
He had a bottle.
I didn't know that.
Well, it wasn't in the paper.
I've got it.
See, now we have video cameras.
You've got to get all the evidence.
So we don't know anything.
We don't know.
It might be absolutely fine and normal.
We don't know.
We don't know.
But here's the thing.
You left this choke on the whole time?
Now, let's make it really complicated.
Okay?
Remember, what was your intent?
My intent wasn't to hurt him.
My intent was to make him stop.
My intent was to protect fellow passengers.
That was my intent.
My intent wasn't to hurt him.
I'm not interested in hurting him.
I'm not a bad guy.
He was intending to hurt people, if anybody, one could argue.
Well, what force did you use?
We're back to that again.
I did a joke.
May I ask you a question?
Yes.
You're a former Marine.
Imagine this.
Yes.
You're not a Marine anymore?
Yeah.
I imagine you were honorably discharged.
Okay.
Did you receive any particular training when you were a Marine?
Yes.
What training did you receive?
Did you have hand-to-hand combat?
Yes.
You were trained how to kill, were you not?
You're a Marine.
America's premier fighting force.
Is that true?
Yes.
And were you ever...
Do you have any particular...
Passions for others?
Do you know anything about ultimate fighting, mixed martial arts?
Oh, you do.
Do you study that?
Yes.
Do you have any information or any special knowledge as to when to release?
Even in mixed martial arts, you tap out!
What did you think would happen if you didn't let go of somebody?
And let's say choke.
Let's use the word choke.
It's not really a choke.
It's different.
There was a fellow on Staten Island.
Remember him?
What was his name?
Remember him?
He was selling Lucy's cigarettes.
And he was a big hulking guy.
And the store owners called the police and said, get him out of here.
He's standing in front of our stores trying to sell loose cigarettes.
And he's just causing problems.
And the police came, Staten Island I believe, and they said, time for you to leave.
And he says, no I'm not.
He'd been arrested like, I don't know how many times, a hundred times.
He had more arrest history than the police did.
A police officer got him into some kind of a hold.
It was, huh?
Eric what?
Yes, Eric Barnard.
Eric Garner, yes.
I can't hear.
Eric Garner, yes.
He, Was the subject of this?
And the police were under scrutiny because they said this is an illegal choke.
Well, it really wasn't a choke.
He tried to just restrain him and he didn't apply it correctly.
And the issue was, did he die in the ambulance or whatever because of a heart attack?
He was very overweight.
He had pre-existing issues.
Comorbidity, where have you heard that one before?
So causation is interesting.
Because remember, just because somebody dies, you've got to figure out what was the cause of the death.
Did this precipitate?
Well, what if the person has some type of medical predisposition to heart arrhythmias or whatever?
Well, there's an old legal doctrine that says you find, it's called the eggshell...
The eggshell victim or the eggshell plaintiff or the eggshell...
You find your victim as they are.
Let's assume somebody was born with an eggshell skull.
So...
So fine that if you tapped it, it would shatter.
It would fracture.
You don't know that.
But you go up to somebody and you hit them.
And somebody says, wait a minute.
I didn't know he had that.
You find your victim as they are.
So, if this gentleman had a pre-existing medical condition, that's the way it is.
This is what you've got to keep in mind when you want to jump in.
This is what you've got to keep in mind when you decide one day to pull a weapon.
You have just entered into, your intentions may be great, you may be wanting to help out.
But we don't know.
It depends upon all the evidence.
Imagine, because now with cameras it changes everything.
Imagine November 22nd, 1963, Dallas, Texas.
Imagine if everybody had a camera during the Kennedy assassination.
What would that be like?
You would have different...
Okay.
Now let me tell you what's happening right now.
Listen to what is happening.
Everyone knows that as we speak, there are teams ready to immediately move in.
Ben Crump, the lawyer that has George Floyd, he's there.
Al Sharpe, it's like a response team, like a shock troop.
They're just ready to move in.
Al Sharpton.
You're going to see candlelight vigils.
I hope no violence.
Dear God, no.
You have the right to protest all you want.
This is America.
First Amendment.
But you will see the team ready to move in.
Just ready.
You will be amazed at the lightning speed of immediately.
Going to Alvin Bragg, going to him, what are you going to do about it?
What are you going to do?
This is a white, former Marine, and an African-American sick man, and you're going to see his family.
He's going to say he was a loved one.
And it's true!
It's true!
And you're going to hear people say, look, he might have been yelling and screaming and saying things, but he didn't hurt anybody.
Maybe he did.
Again, we don't know.
Maybe he did hurt somebody.
I don't know.
It depends upon the facts.
But as we speak, I'm telling you, you know what's happening.
They're moving in.
Ready to go.
The teams are in place.
This is precisely what is going to happen.
This is going to happen.
Watch what I'm saying.
Watch what happens.
Watch specifically this unravel.
Watch it unravel.
It's important.
It's critical to see this.
Because you're going to see a movement.
Now, the thing is, we don't know about this one.
This is not the police, but a private citizen.
This is a private citizen who tried to do the right thing.
The facts are different than George Floyd.
George Floyd...
The optics, you can argue all about whether he died of an opioid, doesn't matter.
When he had that knee on him, that was it.
That was it.
It was done.
We don't even want to hear about that.
The facts are what's going to be critical to this.
The facts are what's going to determine what happens with this.
The facts are.
Now, you and I could say, you know what, this is ridiculous.
This, this, the man tried to do whatever, and that's fine.
But here's the question.
Number one, once you had him down, once he was a little bit slowed down, once he was on his back, were there other people trying to help you?
Why didn't you let go of him?
Why didn't you let go of this restraint?
This is what they're going to ask him.
Did you not know what you were doing?
Did you figure out just...
You know, if you continue, if somebody is out, and I don't know how long he had this on him, I don't know.
Again, I don't believe anything I read in the paper.
I don't believe any of the news.
I just don't believe it.
But assuming, you can say, this is like how many minutes?
No, no.
Now you're negligent.
This is manslaughter.
Forget what happened.
You were absolutely correct in jumping in, but just because you jump in, It doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
For example, let's assume that I, instead of doing the karate restraint, I happen to have a rope with me.
I don't know why, or a belt, or something.
And I decide that this guy is harassing people.
He's bothering passengers.
He's really going out of his way, too.
Let's assume that what I do is I take my belt and I wrap it around his neck.
And I, you know, I'm on his back and I get him and I stop him.
People are able to get away.
The situation is quelled.
But I don't let go of him.
I keep pulling this belt around his neck.
And he's limp.
And I keep pulling the belt.
Are you going to assume?
I'm not saying that's what happened.
Please.
This is a hypothetical.
Are you telling me that you don't see anything wrong with that?
You're going to say, well, it's where it goes.
You know, the guy was acting up and he got what's coming to him.
Are you serious?
And if that was your relative, you would say that?
Are you kidding me?
What are you talking about?
What are you even remotely...
What are you talking about?
See, it's easy for us to say these things.
These are...
These are very easy things to say.
But the facts change.
Now, there is also what we see in this country right now.
There was a case of...
Where was the security guard?
Yeah, but what store was it?
There was a Walgreens.
There was a security guard.
Who got into it with somebody, and the person said, hey, don't bother me.
We can do whatever we want.
The police won't do anything.
And we're seeing more and more of the good Samaritan who was being charged.
And no interest whatsoever in terms of the bad Samaritan, if that's such a thing, being charged.
There's no...
Pardon me?
Yeah.
We have this other case.
There was a New York City bodega owner or something who stabbed somebody.
He was trying to protect himself.
Now, this is the perception here.
Now, you have to be brain dead to not see what's happening.
The people who are the bad guys are let go.
Cash bail, no bond, let them go.
Wait till restorative justice comes in.
We'll get to this in a moment.
And the CRITS, C-R-I-T, the Critical Legal Studies folks, which gave rise to a critical...
And we'll talk about that in a moment.
This is a movement that we're seeing here.
Now, Alvin Bragg doesn't know what he's doing right now.
He is the district attorney for New York.
He's got the Trump case, which is horrible.
And by the way, speaking of horrible cases, Trump's...
A sexual assault charge involving E. Gene Carroll?
Oh my god.
That thing is...
They're going to find him absolutely liable for this.
And we'll talk about that in a moment.
Why?
Because the standard is easier.
Number one.
I wish and I hope That Dana White and Joe, and I don't blame these people.
I'm not even suggesting these, but I wish Boss Rutan would say, listen, we are professionals.
We are in the octagon.
We are in a cage.
We do not mean to suggest to you that you can use our techniques.
In a bar fight, wrestling with your sister, or anything like that.
This is a serious problem.
There are people who are out there, who I'm telling you, who are acting in ways that, it's like, people aren't even fighting anymore the way they used to.
Square off and, come on, let's go.
Nothing.
It's because it's ultimate fighting.
And what we used to think about, like, taekwondo.
No!
This is like combat fighting.
This is a different story altogether.
Okay.
I'm going to talk about the Trump case.
In a criminal case, the burden of proof.
What does that mean?
In a criminal case, let's assume you're the jury.
And in the jury, the jury says, okay, the case has been put on.
The case is done, you know, whatever it is.
It closed.
Now we're going to deliberate in a criminal case.
Did the prosecutor prove the case beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt?
What's a reasonable doubt?
Okay.
Imagine a teeter-totter.
Remember that swing set?
I mean, teeter-totter, there's another name for it.
Seesaw.
Remember that little thing?
And if you would, if one weighs, you know, more, remember, if you hit the bottom, you could send somebody off of it.
Anyway.
This is 50-50, let's assume.
Straight across.
They weigh exactly the same.
If your seesaw is 50-50, you haven't proved anything.
So let's assume you're a juror and you say, well, the prosecutor has the burden of proof or the plaintiff has the burden of proof in a civil case.
Civil case, remember, wants damages, wants money.
Doesn't want anything, wants money.
Prosecutor wants jail, wants justice.
If it's at 50%, if the prosecutor basically is snake eyes, just he, it's likely that he did do it or didn't do it, it's just dead even.
That is not guilty.
Period.
Same thing for civil.
It's just not like you didn't prove your case.
Defense verdict.
A rule for the defendant.
Plaintiff, you lost your case.
So if E. Jean Carroll in a civil case hits this, if the jury says it's just as likely that he did it or he didn't do it, it's really either or, no good.
If this were a criminal case, That seesaw would have to be like that.
I mean, you really got to prove.
E. Jean Carroll would really have to prove that President Trump battered her or sexually assaulted her.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Very, very.
That's reasonable doubt.
But in a criminal matter, all you have to prove is just a little bit over 50%.
Is it more likely?
Then not.
Let this happen.
The preponderance of the evidence, just a little bit, that's the easiest thing in the world.
So he's going to be found liable.
They put on no case.
He wasn't there.
His defense lawyer asked questions that I don't even know what he's even talking about.
You have other witnesses who give up, yep, he did that to me, he did that to me.
Yeah, but you don't remember what year it was.
Really?
Really?
Well, Lisa Bernbach, or whatever her name is, her friend, the author says, well, I remember talking to her on the phone.
I remember what she told me.
I remember.
I remember exactly what happened.
I remember exactly where I was and what she told me.
And it was about that time.
Might have been.
I don't know.
But I know what happened.
I know what happened.
Okay, well there goes that one.
Well, how come you didn't yell?
How come you didn't scream?
Oh my God.
Why are you asking that?
If you're going to have to do this, if you insist, if you're Joe Tacopina, or Joe Tapioca as my friend calls it, if you're Joe Tacopina, and you have to ask questions, do it like this.
You didn't scream, did you?
No.
You didn't make a noise, did you?
No.
You didn't summon anyone for help?
No.
You didn't yell, police, help!
No.
You didn't do any of that?
No.
That's a leading question.
Limit, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.
You had four-inch heels?
Yes.
You had this on?
Yes.
It was a Tuesday?
Yes.
You recognize the president, yes.
You had a smile on him, yes.
You don't like the president, do you?
No.
Let's say you blogged about the president, yes.
You don't like him, yes.
You did this, yes.
Yes, no, yes, no, yes.
Sit down, that's it.
And then in closing, you're going to bring up all this stuff.
And she didn't make any noise.
You don't ask her, well, why didn't you say something?
Never ask a question you don't know the answer to, or if you do know the answer, never give somebody an open-ended question.
This is their witness.
I can't say this enough.
Why do I want to talk to their witness in front of a jury unless I've got something that I can say that might plant a seed?
Here's a great cross-examination.
Sometimes they'll bring a mother.
Let's say you're, in the case of a defendant, his mother takes a stand.
Mrs. Williams, yes.
You're the defendant's mother, aren't you?
Yes.
And you wouldn't want to see anything bad happen to him, now would you?
No.
Thank you very much.
That's it.
And then later on, you say, well what that means is, of course she's not going to testify.
Against her son, it's his son.
But you don't tell her that because she'll say, wait a minute, no, no, I may not want to see my son get in trouble, but I swore under oath I'm not going to risk a perjury.
And you're opening yourself up for why are you doing this?
If you really have to do this, you don't even have to ask her that.
You can tell the jury.
I hope my mother would testify on my behalf.
Wouldn't you?
Come on!
I don't mean any harm towards your mother.
She's a good mother.
She's a great...
Years ago, I was on WABC.
And Alan Dershowitz had, there was a story about how police, this is a while ago, how police learned how to lie.
It's called test-a-lying.
And he said it in some particular context.
He didn't say that all police are lying, but he said that it's well-known or it happens or whatever.
So, lo and behold, the board op says, line three, it's Dershowitz's mother.
She's on the phone.
So, I take her, very nice lady, and she basically says, you know, I don't like what you're saying about my son.
I said, you know what, you're a good mother.
And she says, no, wait a minute, I'm not, I'm not saying this because, well, I understand this.
But he must be really, Lucky to have you.
That's all I did.
She was so nice.
I even sent her flowers.
It's his mother.
She's nice.
He calls up.
Later, she told him, you call this guy up.
And I said, you've got a great mom.
You, I'm not so crazy about.
But anyway, he's a professional.
He's a professional witness.
By the way, he did one of the worst talk radio shows I've ever heard in my life.
Two radio shows.
That were an abomination.
This was in the 90s.
Alan Dershowitz and Mario Cuomo.
Oh my God!
It was just horrible.
He's a lot better now.
But still.
So, that's the way.
That's cross-examination, if you have to do it.
Trump has put on no defense.
I don't know what defense there is.
I can't imagine how the witnesses for Eugene Carroll are lefties.
Okay, fine.
And you blogged that Trump was the most despicable person.
Uh-huh.
I sure did.
You don't like Trump.
No.
But she called me.
I mean, she told me this.
And she was upset.
What does my blog have to do with anything?
Yeah, but you don't like Trump.
What are you suggesting?
What, I'm lying because of this?
I'm making this all up?
I'm in federal court risking perjury and imprisonment to what?
So that Trump will win yet another, lose yet another civil case?
This isn't even criminal.
What does it matter?
He's got nine cases, six cases going on.
Well, what are we talking about?
Then you've got other women who came forward and said these things that are just...
Are they going to play the Access Hollywood thing?
I don't even know if they're going to do that.
Do they play that yet?
Anyway.
And then people ask this question.
Why would Trump do this?
If ever you...
If ever your defense is, why would my client do this?
That's not good.
The best defense is, he didn't do it.
How did he do it?
Because he was in Cincinnati.
Here he is.
He was speaking at an engagement.
Here's the hotel bill.
Here he is.
Let's assume.
As he spoke in front of all these people, this is what happened.
What are you talking about?
He wasn't even there.
That's the defense you want.
That's a good one.
That's good.
That's real good.
Real good.
Okay?
But, you know.
Now, I want you to understand something.
And I want you to listen to me and I want you to really pay attention.
I'm not here to tell you what you want to hear.
It's like going to a doctor and he says, you know, I looked at this and we've got a very serious problem here.
Oh, come on.
What?
My, come on.
We've, we've, we've, my parents lived to be 97 years old.
I got nothing to do.
Excuse me.
I don't know what that means, but I've got this result.
I'm here to tell you the truth.
And the most important thing to do is to never let your feelings get in the way of reality.
Be a realist.
You have to understand what this thing is happening.
It's how it's happening.
The Tucker Carlson interpretation, they're making Fox out to be That nobody's watching Fox.
Fox doesn't make any money.
They're on their way to the coronation.
They're happy as a clam.
That's okay.
They're thinking they lost a million.
Okay.
They got their carriage fees no matter what.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
You've got shareholders.
You've got people, executives.
They don't care anything about what you're saying.
But because you May like him.
You're interpreting it as though this is a statement against the woke.
Stop.
You're reading too much into this.
Yes, that's a part of it.
Obviously, when somebody leaves and numbers go down, that means something.
But you act like this is the end of civilization.
It's not.
Believe me when I tell you that.
That is not.
What you should be looking at today is what information do they have against President Biden?
Who will do the investigation?
What will Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice do?
Is there any justice as you would say that's applicable to either Hunter Biden or to Joe Biden?
Because if you put it on the scheme of things Watergate Which led to, which would have certainly led to, you know, criminal charges, had nothing to do with just this immediate group of people who wanted to break into that office to win that election involving those people.
DNC, Ellsberg, I guess his psychiatrist, and that's it.
It was horrible.
It was terrible.
That's it.
What the Biden facts are, At its worst, if you look at the case and you extrapolate it, is basically putting the country at risk by virtue of illegal deals and coordinated efforts with multinational corporations and countries for nothing other than their own personal gain.
I want you to understand something.
Barack Obama Nobody knows how much money he's got.
But he got that when he was out of office, which is fine.
You could argue whether.
He did what he did.
Two terms.
Got out.
Got deals, books, and shelves book, and Spotify this, and boards, and speaking, and house, and Martha's Vineyard, and oh my god!
After.
Bill Clinton.
After.
Joe Biden.
While in office.
That is the difference.
Focus on that.
Everything else, you're in office.
Now.
You've always been in office.
You've always been in one way or another.
Ricky Lee says, Lionel thoughts on carnivore diet?
Well, Ricky Lee, I am telling you, in my opinion, not as a physician, not as an expert.
I'm not an expert.
I'm not a doctor.
I am the consummate in my heart.
Carnivore.
Meat.
Taste to me.
I could...
I love it.
I think of it every single day.
I have not had a shred of anything in 14 years.
My blood chemistry is that of an infant.
This year I hit 65. I love that number.
No other number, no other age turning 30, 40, 65 to me is just this magical number.
And I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that I have endothelial health.
And in my humble opinion, it is absolutely beyond any doubt proof to me that the best diet that you can ever have, It's plant-based.
That's it.
I don't want to speak against meat, speak against carnivores.
I have nothing to say about them.
Hunter's meat, I love the taste of it.
I think bacon is the most wonderful smell in the world.
I think barbecue.
Barbecue would be my...
I could consume...
Meat's wonderful.
Fat meat, pork, beautiful.
So I have nothing to say about the carnivore diet.
I am saying that in my opinion, as far as what I've seen, in my worldview, what I've seen, the greatest, the best, the most important thing I've ever done is plant-based.
I feel better than Ever.
My friends who are my age, they have a very, very serious obesity problem.
Ricky Lee, by the way, thank you.
Hand crepitations to you.
Ricky Lee, Chucky's in love.
I have one friend of mine who says, you know, I've got to lose, this guy's got, you know, people with CPAP and this and cholesterol and they're overweight.
It's like, well, what are you doing?
What do you want?
Especially as you get older.
I know this is important.
Your metabolism just stops.
Just what you could eat as a kid, you know it.
It's just...
And I...
I'm going to tell you one thing too.
I hate the word vegan.
I will never use that term.
I don't like the connotation.
I don't like it.
John McGuire couldn't get hired says, since we're going off topic on your show, how on your bow tie is there a name for a wide knot bow?
No, I don't think there is a name for it, but there is such...
It's the most incredibly important...
Bow ties are significant for me for a couple of reasons.
Number one, I would never wear them as a younger man, but when you're older, to me, they look...
Number two, people say, tie them.
It's just like tying a knot.
No, it's not.
It's the most counterintuitive way of tying.
It makes no sense at all.
None.
And I could spend forever getting the right tie, this, that, but it's...
And clip-on?
Never.
I like it to be different shapes and kind of sprezzatura.
You ready for this?
I told you, 65. I love that number.
Numbers mean something to me.
Yesterday we went to get the car filled up.
So you go.
It's a stretch.
And I'm doing this thing and I'm not even paying attention.
And it just, you know, it clicks me and it's full.
I get done.
I look at the app, whatever it is.
It was like $37.
Even!
Wow!
I'm thinking, what am I, what am I, what is that about?
I don't know.
Even.
Sometimes I'll just say, I wonder what time it is.
1-11.
Ah!
11-11.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I don't know, but I love the symmetry.
I just, 12-12.
12-12 doesn't do anything for me.
11-11 does.
I don't.
I...
I don't.
I wish people would also think about some things.
I wish people would ask themselves, and I'm going to talk about health for a moment, because as you get older, in particular, I'm going to say this.
If you don't mind me telling you this, I'm going to tell you some things which I think would really help you.
And research this.
Nutritionfacts.org is my Bible.
It's my go-to.
I think it's the best thing there is.
Nutritionfacts.org Dr. Michael Greger.
There's a YouTube short going around saying, Don't Eat Oatmeal.
Oatmeal prevents the...
Oh, not phytates.
Oatmeal prevents the absorption of certain minerals.
Zinc or whatever it is.
Really?
Okay, that's what this is saying.
And somebody says, well, yeah, but all you have to do is do this, but the benefits of grains are greater than this, so why are you doing that?
I don't know.
It's misleading.
So let me tell you this.
I will never tell anybody, I never tell anybody ever that I'm Plant-based.
Never!
Never!
Because they just don't leave you alone.
And let me tell you, one of the greatest things in the world, which is so terrific, and for some reason, I've been doing this for years, but all of a sudden now it's a big thing.
Intermittent fasting or fasting.
Remember, always check with the doctor.
I don't even know what the intermittent fasting is.
It doesn't...
Let me give you an example.
If you ate at night, 6 o 'clock, And you re-ate, your breakfast was 6 a.m.
That's not that unreasonable, right?
That's 12 hours.
What if it was 6 hours before that?
What if it was instead of your last meal was 6 o 'clock, what if it was noon?
That's an 18-hour...
That's intermittent fasting.
Try that.
What?
I've got a friend of mine who says, that's not healthy.
No, it's healthy.
It's very healthy.
You're not going to die.
Believe me.
Let me tell you what your body does.
Listen to me carefully.
I have this idea.
Your body says, wait a minute, what's this guy doing?
Is he dieting?
No, he's not.
Okay, don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
That was weird just now.
We didn't eat.
Then it says, wait a minute, he's dieting.
That's the second day in a row.
Then, when your body all of a sudden says, okay, we give in, that's what we've got to do.
All of a sudden, watch what happens.
You realize, hey, I think I'm losing some weight here.
That wasn't so bad.
I know this one married couple, if you told them, let's do something tonight, let's not eat dinner.
What?
You mean be hungry?
Yeah.
Be hungry.
Oh, no, no, no.
That's not good for you.
What do you think is going to happen?
I don't know, but I can't do that.
Try it.
I don't want to get into the diet thing.
But I'm telling you right now.
Read.
Make up your mind.
Do whatever you want to do.
It's your body.
It's your life.
Whatever.
But intermittent fasting is one of the greatest things ever.
Nobody ever even talks about it.
They don't even explain it to you.
Oh, oh, and by the way, go to your doctor.
Go to your doctor.
Go to your doctor and ask him, hey listen, I'm feeling okay.
What should I eat?
Is your doctor overweight?
That's my favorite.
Really overweight.
What am I going to eat for?
What should I eat?
I don't know.
Stuff?
Really?
Anyway, I'm going to leave it at that.
This bores people.
I find a lot of the YouTube and shorts and Instagram, a lot of them...
It's very, very heavy-handed.
I don't like to talk about that.
I'm going to do a separate channel, I think, on this for people who are interested in it, but it's one of those things.
So just do yourself a favor.
If you think, like, this cholesterol, what's going on here?
My HDL is through the roof.
My triglycerides, oh my God.
Watch what happens if you go plant-based.
Watch!
I love when they say this.
Where do you get your protein from?
From plants.
No, no, seriously.
From beans and plants?
No, I mean it.
What about your calcium?
From plants?
From food?
From...
What?
What about...
Wait a minute.
Don't you...
Don't you...
What about protein?
Americans love protein.
We love this protein.
There's more protein in here.
Protein's never been a problem.
I don't know.
Any doctor says, you know what?
You've got to do something.
You're not getting enough protein.
Or fat.
You've got to eat more fat.
We have a friend of ours who said, well, I'm a vegetarian, I'm a vegan, but I eat chicken.
Well, my doctor told me I had to eat chicken.
What?
Your doctor said that?
And what would happen if you don't eat animal meat?
What would happen?
Well, she made the whole thing up.
No doctor said this.
Or maybe they did, but it's just...
Remember, the misinformation, disinformation problem that social media has never applied to diets.
I'm going to leave it at that.
All right, my friends, I've spoken enough.
An hour and four minutes of my life to you.
Thank you for your support.
Thank you for your love.
John McGuire couldn't get hired.
Thank you so much.
Ricky Lee, thank you.
And you have been just simply irresistible.
Whatever you want to call it.
I think our good friend Mr. Palmer said that.
All right, we'll see you.
By the way, let me remind you, please follow Mrs. L. On Lynn's, at Lynn's Warriors, a YouTube channel.
Please subscribe for incredible, incredible, incredible information.
Follow her also, her Twitter handle, at Lynn's Warriors.
L-Y-N-N-S underscore Warriors.
And I'm at Lionel Media.
Now, remember, tonight, see you back, 7 p.m.
Let's do a recap of what's going on today.
You have been terrific.
Thank you.
See you tonight, 7 p.m.
Duel.
Until then, remember, this is very important for you to recognize.
This is valedictory.
This is sayonara.
The monkey's dead.
The show's over.
Sue ya.
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