Lionel Nation - Is An Abandoned Laptop Abandoned Data?
Aired: 2023-03-18
Duration: 13:08


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[00:01:31]  I'm going to give you a little bit of kind of a legal insight, but then again, not.
[00:01:38]  But this is probably some of the most important stuff you'll ever hear that nobody's discussing.
[00:01:45]  Have you heard lately in the news about people bringing laptops in?
[00:01:48]  Let's say you bring in a laptop to get fixed or recorded.
[00:01:52]  Or fixed or whatever.
[00:01:55]  And for some reason, you leave it.
[00:01:58]  You leave it.
[00:01:59]  You forget it.
[00:02:00]  And there's a period of time in which they say that they will keep this.
[00:02:05]  Like if you leave it for 90 days or whatever it is, they will keep it.
[00:02:10]  Okay?
[00:02:11]  Okay.
[00:02:13]  Let's assume That you do leave it and you forget it or you don't pick it up.
[00:02:20]  What can they do with that thing?
[00:02:24]  What is it?
[00:02:25]  Is it a laptop or is it the data?
[00:02:32]  That's a different story.
[00:02:34]  Can they keep the data?
[00:02:36]  Do they own the data or do they own the laptop?
[00:02:40]  You see, this was...
[00:02:43]  A similar case happened in 2012 regarding another issue which I will explain to you.

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[00:04:49]  Okay, imagine this.
[00:04:52]  Assume this is a cell phone.
[00:04:53]  It's not, but assume it is.
[00:04:55]  It's got all my stuff on it.
[00:04:56]  All my stuff.
[00:04:58]  All my stuff.
[00:05:01]  Numbers and pictures and you name it.
[00:05:04]  It's on this phone.
[00:05:06]  And I get it.
[00:05:07]  Repaired.
[00:05:09]  Or looked at.
[00:05:10]  I drop water on it.
[00:05:12]  Or maybe I'm having it tuned up.
[00:05:13]  Or maybe it's a laptop.
[00:05:14]  Or maybe it's a desktop.
[00:05:16]  I don't know.

=== Data From Devices (07:51) ===

[00:05:18]  Whatever it is.
[00:05:20]  And I don't pick it up.
[00:05:22]  And they keep it.
[00:05:24]  And they go through it.
[00:05:26]  And they start publishing all my pictures.
[00:05:30]  My pictures.
[00:05:31]  My stuff.
[00:05:33]  Somehow they get access to it.
[00:05:35]  My bank account, all my banking information, they just put it out there.
[00:05:39]  And they say, well, you left the phone?
[00:05:43]  And I say, well, I left the phone, but I didn't.
[00:05:45]  What about the information?
[00:05:47]  Is that similar?
[00:05:48]  Is it different?
[00:05:51]  It's an incredibly important issue to ask, or to think about.
[00:05:55]  You see, that's one of the things.
[00:05:57]  In 2012, there was this case that Nino Scalia dealt with.
[00:06:03]  And what it did was, it spoke to a matter.
[00:06:10]  It was very interesting.
[00:06:12]  And the matter involved a DEA agent that went into somebody's property and put a device on a tracking device, and then they followed this car.
[00:06:25]  This is in 2012.
[00:06:26]  This is when this technology was pretty new.
[00:06:30]  They found out where this guy went.
[00:06:32]  And the question was, they wanted to suppress it.
[00:06:34]  Was this a Fourth Amendment violation?
[00:06:35]  Well, Scalia, I believe, answered correctly, was a unanimous decision.
[00:06:40]  But his reasoning was different.
[00:06:42]  He said it was a violation because they went on the property.
[00:06:48]  They went on the property, trespassed, in order to put this thing on there.
[00:06:55]  That's the issue.
[00:06:56]  That's the issue.
[00:06:59]  It was fascinating.
[00:07:01]  But, they kept saying, but wait a minute.
[00:07:06]  Where was the violation?
[00:07:09]  Was the violation going onto the property?
[00:07:13]  Trespassing?
[00:07:15]  Violating the curtilage area around it to stick this device?
[00:07:19]  Or, was it the data that was gained?
[00:07:22]  Where you're going?
[00:07:24]  And some people then suggested that, well, there's no reasonable expectation of privacy.
[00:07:30]  I could follow you.
[00:07:32]  I could follow you behind your car, but this is a tracking device.
[00:07:36]  At the time, nobody knew what this was.
[00:07:37]  What do you mean it's a tracking device?
[00:07:41]  Yeah, but it's his data.
[00:07:44]  What do you mean it's his data?
[00:07:45]  It's where he goes.
[00:07:46]  That's his data.
[00:07:48]  That's the issue.
[00:07:50]  That's the significant issue of this.
[00:07:55]  This is the part which is fascinating.
[00:07:57]  You hear data, metadata, the information that you provide, that you have on you at any time.
[00:08:05]  Your car, your equipment, your car.
[00:08:09]  If I...
[00:08:10]  Right now on your car, you probably have something...
[00:08:12]  Here we have this thing called the EasyPass.
[00:08:14]  You can probably have the name for it.
[00:08:16]  It's that little tracking device.
[00:08:17]  That device that goes through tolls and things.
[00:08:20]  It's pretty handy, except that it keeps track.
[00:08:24]  Of every place you go.
[00:08:26]  Now wait a minute.
[00:08:27]  You don't need that device.
[00:08:30]  That device goes up to a cloud or someplace else and you're billed accordingly.
[00:08:35]  Because you have that device on there.
[00:08:38]  Well, do you realize that when you put that on your car, you don't have an expectation of privacy to that particular data?
[00:08:48]  Do you?
[00:08:49]  No.
[00:08:51]  Well, what is it that I don't know?
[00:08:55]  It's, where is the data?
[00:08:58]  Where is it?
[00:08:58]  Is it on your car?
[00:08:59]  Is it you?
[00:09:00]  And what is the data?
[00:09:01]  Where do you go?
[00:09:02]  Sometimes, by the way, those easy passes, very interesting, they've saved people's lives.
[00:09:08]  They've actually saved lives in that they have provided an alibi, perhaps, in the case of a murder case.
[00:09:17]  You say, oh, you were in Cincinnati?
[00:09:19]  Yes, well, you know, lo and behold, there's his car.
[00:09:23]  So, this data, so when you go back to the phone or the whatever, don't you realize that most of what you have anyway isn't on that computer?
[00:09:32]  It's in a cloud!
[00:09:35]  Yeah, but you have that.
[00:09:36]  So, does that change anything?
[00:09:39]  Does that change anything?
[00:09:41]  Where is this data?
[00:09:42]  What is this?
[00:09:44]  But more important than that, in some states, they still have this invasion of privacy.
[00:09:51]  As a tort, as a civil charge, the fact that you're invading my privacy and you're exposing pictures, well, I mean, who owns things?
[00:10:06]  See, this is a weird concept.
[00:10:08]  I'll give you another example.
[00:10:11]  There have been these cases called revenge Porn.
[00:10:17]  It's the wrong term, but somebody takes a picture of somebody else.
[00:10:21]  Let's say it's a nude picture.
[00:10:24]  And then later on, they use the reveal of that to either embarrass or get something or whatever it is.
[00:10:32]  Well, the question that was asked by a lot of people is, who owns that?
[00:10:37]  Who owns that picture?
[00:10:40]  I do.
[00:10:41]  I took it, theoretically.
[00:10:44]  So I can use it whatever I want.
[00:10:47]  But you're extorting money from...
[00:10:49]  No, I'm not.
[00:10:50]  I mean, theoretically I am, but no, I'm not.
[00:10:53]  Am I?
[00:10:55]  It's embarrassing, but I've got it.
[00:10:59]  Didn't people like...
[00:11:01]  Didn't Larry Flint have pictures of Vanessa Williams and others and people who they were going to reveal these pictures that they found?
[00:11:12]  I mean...
[00:11:14]  What I'm imparting upon you is the law, technology, ownership, First Amendment.
[00:11:25]  it.
[00:11:32]  What am I trying to say?
[00:11:36]  Intellectual property, copyright, ownership.
[00:11:39]  It's my work.
[00:11:41]  I took this picture.
[00:11:43]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:11:44]  It's me.
[00:11:45]  It's mine.
[00:11:46]  But what are you using it for?
[00:11:48]  What are you doing with it?
[00:11:49]  You're invading my mind?
[00:11:51]  It's in the eye of the beholder.
[00:11:52]  I don't think I'm invading your privacy.
[00:11:53]  You see where this goes?
[00:11:55]  You see where this is?
[00:11:57]  This is the issue.
[00:11:59]  It's not laptops or equipment or whatever it is.
[00:12:03]  It's you.
[00:12:05]  It's your data.
[00:12:09]  Your information.
[00:12:12]  That you elected to put on here.
[00:12:14]  And that's another thing too.
[00:12:15]  We've got to tell kids from an earlier age, please, whatever you do, be very careful with what pictures you give and take and send.
[00:12:24]  We'll get to that one later.
[00:12:26]  Remember what I'm telling you.
[00:12:29]  Remember what I'm telling you.
[00:12:32]  The law always lags behind technology.
[00:12:35]  Nobody knew, nobody understood any of this stuff.
[00:12:40]  And we're going to have new phrases like expectation of privacy.
[00:12:43]  I haven't even gotten into drones yet.
[00:12:46]  A drone flying around?
[00:12:49]  In your backyard?
[00:12:51]  Taking pictures of you?
[00:12:52]  Can you do that?
[00:12:54]  I don't know.
[00:12:56]  I don't know.
[00:12:59]  In any event, thank you for watching.
[00:13:03]  Thank you for paying attention.
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