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Oct. 15, 2025 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP149: Trump Frees the Hostages: Will HAMAS Respect the Ceasefire?

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ellie hirsch

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john guandolo

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laura loomer

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rush limbaugh ▲ ● ▼		There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Chain herself is she chainers will be fixed like an apple for loud, you're gonna make it the fight.
unidentified		I wanna pull that nigga out of the case.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Good evening and welcome to another episode of Loomer Unleashed.
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		We have a jam-packed show for you tonight.
		Lots to talk about.
		In about an hour or so, I'm going to be joined by my first, well, my second guest, actually, because we're going to have an interview with a sponsor.
		We're going to talk about this new study out that shows that kimchi is actually helping people.
		Kimchi, you know, kimchi, you probably get it when you eat Asian food.
		You can even get it in a pill format now.
		There's a new study out that shows that eating kimchi can actually help you if you have injuries from the vaccine.
		So a lot of people are still dealing with the aftermath of being injured from vaccines after Operation Warp Speed.
		I never took the jab.
		I'm pretty happy that I never took the jab.
		So we're going to be talking about that tonight.
		Pretty interesting study.
		And then I'm going to be talking about the hostage release, the peace deal, and what the peace deal means for our country going forward, right?
		We had this peace deal between Israel and Hamas, and we just saw this incredible show of strength and force on the world stage by President Trump, where he flew to Israel and he secured the release of all the remaining 20 living hostages, the Israeli hostages held by Hamas, in exchange, of course, for several convicted Palestinian terrorists who were also released back to the Palestinians.
		And then he flew to Egypt for the peace summit and the Gaza, the Gaza peace deal, which of course was signed and attended by numerous leaders, world leaders, especially leaders from the Middle East.
		So we're going to have a lot to talk about tonight, especially as that deal pertains to how we as Americans are going to deal with the global threat of Islamic jihad going forward.
		So lots to talk about because, you know, look, I'm of the mindset where I'm very grateful that the hostages have been released and I'm grateful that President Trump has been able to bring people to the table.
		But I'm skeptical in that I don't necessarily think that the Palestinians are going to be able to keep the ceasefire.
		I just knowing what I know about Islam as an ideology and knowing what we know about how violent Hamas is, I don't trust that Hamas isn't going to attack again or that these terror cells that we have here in our own country aren't going to activate and attack Americans.
		So we're going to get into that as well.
		I'm going to be joined by John Guandolo, who is a former FBI agent, one of the first to help the FBI and our country develop a plan to combat the Islamic movement in 2006 in the aftermath of 9-11.
		And so he's going to talk about how we as Americans need to prepare for imminent attacks here in the homeland and whether or not the administration is doing a good job addressing this threat of Islamic jihad.
		So we're going to get into that.
		I want to move on to a story before I bring my first guest on tonight.
		You may have seen the story that I released on my website a couple of weeks ago.
		There have been some incredible developments and also recognition in the mainstream media for the work that I've been doing with Whitecoat Waste to raise awareness about animal testing.
		Every single year, $20 billion of your taxpayer money goes towards animal testing experiments.
		And I've had incredible success working with White Coat Waste, you know, through my activism and, you know, sharing their investigative reporting.
		And of course, through my own investigative reporting as well, getting over $70 million of taxpayer-funded animal testing grants in various agencies, including NIH, the Navy, and also the Department of War slash.
		Our work has now received national recognition from the mainstream media.
		And now it's a center of controversy here in the state of Florida, where I live.
		Ron DeSantis is always talking about how Florida is where woke goes to die.
		You may have heard him say that a few times and talks a lot about how here in Florida, they do not invest taxpayer money into LGBTQ agendas.
unidentified		However, there's always an exception, right?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		There's always something that slips through the cracks.
		And if you read my website, lumer.com, you saw this report.
		Florida tax dollars funded six six transgender monkey experiments.
		And Representative Meg Weinberger, a friend of mine who is also a Florida state rep down in Palm Beach County, she actually wrote a letter.
		We can get that letter pulled up on the screen.
		She actually wrote a letter to the Florida Surgeon General, Joseph Lotipo, and expressed her outrage.
		Go ahead and pull this up.
		Dear Surgeon General Lotipo, we write to you with concerns about recently published revelations that Florida taxpayer dollars via the Department of Health were spent to support inhumane and disturbing transgender experiments on monkeys.
		Given your role as the state's top public health official, we respectfully request that your office investigate the use of Florida Department of Health funds for these cruel primate experiments and publicly commit to prohibiting any future funding of scientifically and ethically dubious transgender animal tests.
		So it's pretty disgusting to think not only that $20 billion of our taxpayer dollars every single year are going towards these inhumane abusive tests on animals, but also, you know, we're not just talking about experiments on rats.
		They're not just, we're not just talking about advancements in terms of finding cures for cancer or finding cures or treatments for diabetes.
		What is the point?
		What is the scientific benefit for humanity to conduct transgender animal tests on dogs, cats, monkeys?
		Like, what is the scientific value of trying to torture an animal in a laboratory for the sake of making it transgender?
		It's very shocking stuff, and it's caused quite a stir here in Florida.
		The deputy chief of staff for Ron DeSantis actually ended up replying to Meg Weinberger, Representative Weinberger, and they got in a Twitter spat back and forth addressing this controversy where the governor's office was denying that this was happening here in the state of Florida.
		But now they've kind of backed off because, well, the receipts speak for themselves.
		And you can read that article yourself, but let's continue with this letter.
		Florida DOH funding paid for cruel transgender mRNA monkey experiments.
		A recent investigative report by the nonprofit White Coat Waste revealed that funding from Florida DOH, along with funding from Dr. Anthony Fauci via the U.S. National Institutes of Health, paid for an experiment in which male rhesus monkeys were implanted with estrogen-releasing pellets to stimulate feminizing hormone therapies in transgender humans, then further subjected to immune system disruption via mRNA injections.
		The Florida Department of Health funded monkey study co-authored by University of Florida and Scripps researchers states, let's go into the next page.
		To investigate the immune effects of estrogen within a male biological system, we administered exogenous estrogen to male rhesus monkeys.
		So they wanted to model a feminizing hormone therapy, which is prescribed for transgender women.
		This is what your taxpayer dollars are paying for, not just on a federal level, but also here in the state of Florida where I live.
		So luckily, this caused so much outrage following the publication of my report that not only did the governor's office reply, and it's my understanding that the deputy chief of staff for Ron DeSantis has since had a meeting with Representative Weinberger to address these cruel and inhumane tests on animals.
		But there's also a report.
		Let's get this report up.
		Monkey business, Florida taxpayers appear to have paid for transgender monkey testing, the Floridian.
		Go ahead and get this report up.
		But it's now sparked a debate and action within the Republican-controlled legislature in Tallahassee.
		And it's my understanding from speaking with lawmakers today, including Representative Weinberger, that they are going to be taking action on issues like animal testing and having a review of taxpayer funds in Florida going towards these type of experiments because, well, they should be banned.
		I mean, the governor always speaks out whenever there's any type of report about men playing in women's sports or teachers caught at public schools within the Florida public school system, pushing LGBTQ agendas onto children, minor children, and yet the governor has relatively been silent on this matter.
		And so let's scroll down.
		You can see the article for yourself.
		Again, this is happening all across the country.
		This is just a local example.
		But again, $20 billion of your taxpayer money, you are an American taxpayer, are going towards experiments like this.
		And so if this outrages you, just know that it's probably happening in your state as well.
		Because all across the country, every single year, your taxpayer dollars are used to breed monkeys, beagles, all types of animals that are being used in these taxpayer-funded laboratories, not just here in the United States, but also in places like China.
		Governor Ron DeSantis has nixed all funding for woke initiatives throughout Florida, specifically transgender studies and procedures, since taking office in 2019.
		A new report appears to show that his administration may have inadvertently funded transgender monkey testing at the University of Florida and the Scripps Research Institute.
		According to a report by researchers at the university, first reported on by investigative reporter Laura Loomer and exposed by the nonprofit government watchdog group White Coat Waste, the research was also funded through a grant at the University of Miami through the State of Florida Funding Initiative, sponsored by the state of Florida, University of Florida, and the Scripps Research Institute.
unidentified		You can scroll down, see the rest of the report.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Loomer's reporting caught the attention of State Representative Meg Weinberg, known as MAGA MEG, an animal rescue philanthropist who called for Florida Surgeon General Joseph Latipo to investigate the alleged funding.
		Florida taxpayers shouldn't fund cruel transgender experiments on monkeys.
		Florida Surgeon General must investigate how our Department of Health dollars were used for these inhumane tests and commit to ending this wasteful spending immediately.
		Our tax dollars should protect animals, not torture them, stated Representative Weinberger.
		In response to Weinberger's post, Governor DeSantis' deputy chief of staff, Brock Boraz, appears to have taken a jab at Weinberger and the assertion that Florida's Department of Health funded this kind of research since DeSantis took over in 2019.
		Let's scroll down.
		You can see for yourself.
		There's Meg Weinberger.
		The Florida Department of Health never funded research like this during the administration.
		That's a lie.
		They actually did.
		This is the statement from Governor DeSantis' deputy chief of staff.
		It then goes on to say, the funding you reference has only been given to institutions for HIV and AIDS research and somewhat ironically originated from a member project in the Florida House.
		And then he goes on to say, as the world is well aware, Florida led the way in opposing the woke left ideology on transgenderism.
		Florida does not and would never waste taxpayer dollars on anything as ridiculous as transgender experiments on animals.
		Going forward, we hope you will call our office to avoid inaccurate social media posts.
		So look, you know, the governor's office doesn't like getting called out.
		They don't like the fact that independent journalists are holding them accountable.
		And, you know, this is the importance of independent reporting.
		You can't just, you can't just be a sycophant for a Republican representative.
		You have to actually call out waste, fraud, and abuse.
		And when I released this report, it was not supposed to, and it was definitely not intended to be an attack on the DeSantis administration.
		But it is very important that we raise the alarm and the siren bells about these cruel and inhumane tests that are taking place on animals across our country.
		Because as I said for a fourth time now tonight, $20 billion.
		Okay, that's a lot of money.
		$20 billion of your taxpayer money is going towards torturing animals, beagles, monkeys, cats, mice, whatever you want to call it.
		I mean, especially, especially the dogs and the cats.
		I mean, look, and the monkeys, for me, I can't, I can't even fathom any of my dogs being in one of these.
		They were Fauci funded labs.
		I mean, we saw this during the Biden administration with the Fauci animal experiments, but there's a continuation even into the Trump administration.
		And so why do I bring this up?
		Because these tests are not necessary.
		They're not necessary.
		We don't need to be torturing beagles in experiments where your taxpayer dollars are going towards having beagles bleed out to study blood disorders.
		That's a real experiment, something that White Coat Waste and I just exposed a couple weeks ago.
		And your tax dollars don't need to be going towards breeding monkeys so that they can be shoved in cages and laboratories.
		So the federal government and the state of Florida and researchers at the University of Florida can make monkeys transgender.
		So, you know, every single week, White Coat Waste and I are publishing reports like this.
		And I would encourage all of you to take a look at how this funding is broken down and to look at these various reports because animal testing is one of those things that generally the left has cornered this market in talking about animal testing, but it's an issue that the right needs to be talking about.
		There was a report that came out in Politico actually talking about how thanks to the advocacy of myself and White Coat Waste, Maha under Secretary Kennedy at the Department of Health as well, Health and Human Services.
		Let's go ahead and get this article pulled up.
		They are now making animal testing a priority.
		And so the article, if you haven't read it, I would encourage you to read it.
		It's a pretty good piece, actually, pretty fair.
		It talks about how traditionally the topic of animal testing has always been cornered by the left.
		But now under the Trump administration, President Trump and Secretary Kennedy have made phasing out animal testing a part of their Make America Healthy Again plan.
		So animal welfare is now part of RFK Jr.'s Maha Agenda.
		You can see me and Justin from White Coat Waste with Abe Hamaday, Congressman from Arizona, and then Oliver, one of the beagles that, of course, was rescued from one of Fauci's labs.
		You can scroll down and see this article.
		Robert Kennedy Jr. is making animal welfare a component of his Make America Healthy Again mission.
		The health secretary has asked his agencies to refine high-tech methods of testing chemicals and drugs that don't involve killing animals.
		So, yeah, we don't need to be killing animals.
		We also don't need to be conducting tests that may necessarily not kill them.
		But just so you know, even if a test doesn't end up killing an animal, generally these laboratories euthanize the animals when they're done conducting these cruel and inhumane experiments on them.
		So it's not like they're just conducting tests and then they're releasing the animals.
		The policy is for them to kill them, which is why groups like Kindness Ranch are so important.
		I've had John Raymer, the executive director of Kindness Ranch on my program before, to talk about the importance of having these laboratories, one, not just end animal testing, but if they're not going to have a use for the animals by the time they're done utilizing these animals, they need to surrender them to groups that will then, you know, find loving homes for these animals, especially the dogs, because it's just unacceptable that every single year, you know, thousands, right?
		Thousands of beagles are bred with your taxpayer dollars every single year, just so that they can be tortured in labs from the time they're born.
		They never step foot on grass.
		They don't even know what having love and compassion and snuggles is like.
		They've never been able to play outside.
		They keep them in laboratories and then they kill them.
		So it's something that I'm very passionate about.
		But again, if you haven't read this report in Politico, I would encourage you to do so.
	There was also a report in the New York Times that was pretty exciting.
	This weekend, there was actually an opinion article in the printed edition of the New York Times highlighting the work that White Coat Waste and I have been doing.
	In fact, get my producer to pull this up on the screen.
	But this is an issue that I would really love to see the Trump administration continue focusing on because ultimately, you know, if $20 billion of our taxpayer money is going towards animal testing every single year, I'm sure that the Trump administration could easily sign an executive order, an interagency executive order banning animal testing.
	And how great would that be?
	I mean, just so far this year alone, White Coat Waste and I have been able to help get over $70 million of these animal testing grants terminated across the Navy and the Department of War.
	How amazing would it be if we could also get the NIH and also the Secretary of State to have the FDA and animal testing, NIH, and also health and human services altogether.
	There's a lot of agencies in our federal government that are utilizing animal testing.
	A lot of these experiments make no sense whatsoever.
	If you've been watching my show for the last few months, you know that we also highlighted cruel experiments against cats where they were shoving marbles up their up their rectums and they were electrocuting them.
	What's the purpose of shoving marbles up a cat's butt and electrocuting this cat, right?
	Except abusing an animal.
	So totally unacceptable.
	But look, outside of outside of all the animal testing, there are a lot of good developments coming out of health and human services, especially getting rid of vaccine mandates and changing the vaccine schedules.
	And that leads me to my next subject.
	A lot of people took the COVID vaccine.
	They took the jab.
	I don't even like calling it a vaccine because really it was, you could say it was gene modification, right?
	Poison.
	I don't really like calling it a vaccine.
	A lot of people took it.
	It's a sensitive subject for a lot of people.
	But only now are we coming out and we're finally realizing that a lot of these vaccines severely injured people.
	Even President Trump a couple of weeks ago posted a truth social post in which he said that he's receiving information that was contrary to the information the so-called scientists gave him during Operation Warp Speed, right?
	And he's called on Secretary Kennedy to conduct a full review.
	And we have seen a lot of reports and a lot of discussion from Kennedy and people within the Maja movement about the consequences of being vaccine injured.
	It's pretty crazy to think that the vaccine actually had a net negative efficacy after six months.
	And of course, some of the worst side effects that we've ever seen, myocarditis, people dropping dead, right?
	This concept of people dying suddenly.
	I mean, it's continued.
	You have an eruption of all types of turbo cancers.
	A lot of people developed all types of immune disorders, cancers, heart conditions, you name it, right?
	There's a lot of really weird side effects from COVID and the vaccine.
	I never took the vaccine, thank God, but I know a lot of people who did.
	And some of them now have cardiac issues.
	Some of them have developed immune disorders.
	Some of them had metabolic changes, like where they either lost a lot of weight rapidly, or in some cases, they gained a lot of weight.
	I personally think COVID was a bioweapon.
	And I never, like I said, I never took the vaccine, but I definitely noticed that I developed respiratory issues.
	I never had asthma before I had COVID.
	And when I got COVID, I had COVID twice, actually.
	I thought that I was just having symptoms of long COVID, but I actually developed some long-term lung damage, like permanent lung damage from COVID.
	And I now suffer from shortness of breath and asthma to the point where I now have to, you know, get treatments for my asthma.
	And occasionally I have to take a break because it's a lot of talking.
	I do my show three hours, twice a week, and I used to be able to talk for longer periods of time.
	And I've noticed that ever since I had COVID, right, my body has sustained injury.
	I never took the vaccine.
	You didn't have to take the vaccine in order to get negative side effects.
	But there are now a lot of products out there, a lot of products that are trying to help people detox and also help people try to recover from these negative side effects.
	And I want to bring in my next guest to talk about a new study that's come out that shows that kimchi, kimchi can actually help reduce some of these negative side effects.
	And so I want to bring in Ellie Hirsch.
	She's a certified nutritionist and health and wellness coach here to discuss the benefits of kimchi.
	And we're going to go through some stories, some personal stories from people.
	We have a couple clips that we want to show you.
	But I think it's really important because here we are several years after Operation Warp Speed.
	And even though we have a new administration and they've gotten rid of all the vaccine mandates and they're rehiring people for the military who were fired for not taking the vaccine and it's now a choice whether or not you want to take the COVID vaccine, it's not required as part of the vaccine schedule as recommended by the Secretary of Health.
	It still doesn't change the fact that a lot of people are permanently injured or they have sustained injuries that have altered their life in some kind of negative way.
	So I want to welcome Ellie Hirsch to the program.
	Ellie, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
	Thanks for having me.
	Yeah, I don't know if you took the vaccine.
	Obviously, it's personal.
	You don't have to answer that question.
	I did not take the vaccine.
	But I know that we're now starting to hear so many more horror stories.
	We heard horror stories in the aftermath of COVID as well, where people were dropping dead or they were getting paralysis or they developed myocarditis.
	I mean, we've all seen the videos of athletes dropping dead or having cardiac issues.
	But only now, several years later, are some products coming out and new studies that show that taking a fermented supplement like a kimchi can actually change the bacteria in your gut.
	And there's some studies that suggest that your overall gut health can be like a good indicator as to whether or not you can be on the road to recovery after getting damaged from some of this mRNA technology or these mRNA vaccines that have altered people negatively.
	So why don't you go ahead and talk about this?
	I know that you're a certified nutritionist and health and wellness coach.
	I like incorporating these segments into my show because, I mean, we talk a lot about politics, but also, you know, I think this ties in perfectly with the agendas of the administration and Secretary Kennedy and his initiatives to make America healthy again.
	And there's a lot of people out there that have buyer's remorse.
	They took the jab, they've sustained some type of injury, or maybe they didn't take the jab and they're like me and they feel like their body in some kind of physical way has been permanently altered.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's no wonder that, you know, Kennedy ousted all 17 members of the vaccine advisory committee at the CDC.
		It's really, really scary.
		And it doesn't matter how old you are.
		I'm not sure if you heard the story of Larry Lowe, but it is absolutely petrifying what is going on there.
		And his wife has to speak for him now.
		He cannot speak anymore.
		This is a man that cannot sleep.
		He hasn't slept in three years.
		He can't go anywhere.
		If he moves, he has electrical shocks within his body.
		It really just breaks your heart.
		And his quality of life is absolutely zero.
		Okay.
		And it's not just about, you know, people like Larry Lowe, but there's also a story about an 18-year-old girl.
		It's girl Trista.
		And it's really easy to see the connection because she died very quickly after she took the vaccine.
		She was only 18.
		Her parents did not know she took the vaccine.
		You know, you turn 18, you want to kind of take care of your own health, put it in your own hands.
		And she died 12 days later.
		So these mysterious deaths are happening months, years after.
		And, you know, it's, do you want a sick America?
		And are we making money off of it?
		So it is very scary.
		And we're all paying the price.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to go ahead and play some of these clips because we do have the story of Larry Lowe and we also have the story of Trista.
		I mean, everybody has their own story because there were so many mandates.
		Everybody has a COVID story, right?
		Everybody knows somebody who had to take the vaccine or they themselves were forced to take it or they know somebody who either died or developed some kind of cancer or myocarditis or some kind of respiratory condition after taking the vaccine or even just after getting COVID.
		Because a lot of what I find to be really interesting is a lot of the side effects that people had from COVID, like these long COVID symptoms, are the same side effects that a lot of people who took the vaccine are getting.
		Again, I never took it.
		I never took it.
		But when I went to the pulmonologist and when I went and I saw a doctor for my symptoms, you know, it's very similar to the symptoms of people who were vaccine injured.
		So let's go ahead and play this clip of Larry Lowe, the story of Larry Lowe.
unidentified		Nothing is the same.
		I can't eat the same.
		I can't sleep the same.
		I'm not working.
		I'm not playing guitar much, very low, maybe a bit of acoustic.
		I go for walks.
		I want to come out of here to my wonderful shred and rip that guitar as low as I can, but I can't do that.
		I feel like I'm wearing a mask, but nobody can see it.
		I've lost complete control of the site.
		I've actually had to learn to speak again a wee bit.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Then we also have some testimony from his wife, what it's like having to take care of him.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Let's go ahead and play Virginia Lowe's testimony.
unidentified		My name is Virginia Lowe, and I have traveled here from Oma along with my husband to share his vaccine story.
		Larry's condition makes it very, very painful to speak for long periods of time.
		So I'm his voice today.
		I don't actually know how long he's able to stay here.
		He's sitting in the front row, taking multiple attacks as I speak.
		He's shaking, stemming with the pain to try and keep it under control.
		Prior to December 2021, my husband Larry was a healthy, active man with no health concerns or underlying conditions.
		He was a college lecturer and successful musician, but that was all taken away from him on the 15th of December 2021.
		That was the day he received COVID Pfizer booster injection in Oma Leisure Center.
		Within two days of this, he complained about unusual, painful facial numbness with further pain in his teeth and his thumbs.
		This was only the start of his onset neurological journey.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		As a nutritionist and also a health and wellness coach, do you hear a lot of people like asking for advice how to get this out of their out of their system?
		I mean, what I wonder, I always wonder what it's like because I'm sure that a lot of doctors are not going to go public, obviously, like patient confidentiality.
		But, you know, without getting into specifics of your patients, how often would you say you have people coming to you asking you how they can recover from a vaccine injury?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot.
		And like you said before, even if you didn't get the vaccine, you're impacted, right?
		So, and I'll get into that a little bit later, but a lot of people's lives have been drastically changed.
		And I hear about it probably on a daily basis from my clients.
		So it is pretty heartbreaking.
		And actually, the Larry Lowe that you showed, since then that was filmed, his health has majorly declined.
		So he is in even worse shape.
		I don't even think he can talk at this point.
		So it's really, really sad.
		You know, these are real people, right?
unidentified		So yeah, sad.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		We have the other clip of Trista, the 18-year-old who also took the vaccine and was injured.
		And she died.
		So let's go ahead and play this clip.
unidentified		She was just a really funny girl and she worked really hard.
		She was a little Spitfire.
		She was not really afraid of anyone or anything.
		Trista was a beautiful, beautiful girl.
		More full of life and joy than anybody I've ever known.
		That's how Taylor and Alan Martin describe their daughter, Trista.
		She graduated from Broken Arrow High School in 2022.
		That summer, she was promoted to a management position at a local Brahms.
		She walked her dogs and worked out with her older sister.
		She had plans to go to college and had a heart for helping others.
		After she passed, we found a bucket list that she had made when she was 16.
		Yeah, adopt a teenager, number 28, number 29, be a foster parent.
		Number 27, be a mother.
		That one gets me cut punch.
		Dreams that will never come true.
		Trista died November 9th, 2022, 12 days after her parents believed she got her second COVID vaccine.
		They found her vaccination card from her first appointment in her purse.
		It shows she received the first Pfizer shot July 20th of that year.
		Her parents had no idea.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Terrible.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Just, it's terrible.
		It's terrible.
		And, you know, it's not just the COVID vaccine.
		We saw recently President Trump made a lot of, you know, he created a lot of controversy when he had RFK Jr. at the White House talking about not just vaccine injuries as it relates to his recommendations to space out the scheduling of vaccines for children to reduce the levels of autism.
		But we're finding out a lot of things are problematic.
		He talked about Tylenol as well, the correlation between prenatal Tylenol consumption and also the development of autism and ADHD.
		I had some scientists on my show to talk about that as well.
		And so whether it's the COVID vaccine or whether it's childhood vaccines, it appears that there is this kind of refusal and also this taboo nature and culture in big pharma and the world of medicine in general to really like come clean and admit that vaccines are not safe.
		We're always told, oh, you know, you need to get vaccinated.
		It's an issue of public health.
		And oh, you're a bad parent if you don't vaccinate your kids.
		But now, I think for the first time ever, on really a mainstream level, like in the you know, the conscious of the masses, because of course, before there was always these movements and they would say, Oh, you're an anti-vaxxer, and they were like these fringe movements where you were ostracized and demonized and really criticized if you didn't want to vaccinate your kid, or you would openly say that you were an anti-vaxer.
		But now, people are taking a lot more initiative into their own well-being and their own health, and they're asking questions about these vaccines.
		Um, do you find a lot of parents coming to you as well, or is it mostly just people who took the COVID vaccine, or do you have a lot of patients who are also trying to get treatment for their children after their children may have developed autism or some kind of vaccine injury after taking their childhood vaccines?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		It's a little bit of both.
		You know, a lot of adults are sharing their stories, and like you said, you know, they were worried they were called bad parents, and you put your trust into government and someone saying this is for your health.
		And unfortunately, your health declined from taking it.
		So, it's really scary to see.
		And, you know, it's interesting because the vaccine injury compensation program, the VICP, it was created in the 80s and it had a 75 cent excise tax on doses of specific vaccines, primarily those recommended for routine administration to children.
		Okay.
		And that's interesting, right?
		So, as of September 30th, 2024, can you guess how much the balance is that they have in this fund?
		It's scary.
		I'll just say that.
		Take a guess.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		What is what is it?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		$4.6 billion, right?
		So, the money is basically used to pay claims related to certain vaccines like the flu, right?
		And, you know, you mentioned autism and RFK Jr., he's working on policy changes so that they can include autism in the VICP program.
		But, you know, there's all these loopholes and things that they're trying to get through because they can't really call it autism.
		So they're looking at autism symptoms.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't really seem like a high enough number, though.
		$4.5 billion in a fund who people who have sustained vaccine injuries.
		I mean, how many people sustained vaccine injuries after COVID?
		And I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people now are starting to realize that they were vaccine injured before, I think, before COVID and before people really started asking questions about these vaccines when they tried to force people to take a vaccine if they wanted their kid to go to school or if they wanted to keep their job when the whole country was locked down and you weren't allowed to even go grocery shopping without getting a vaccine.
		I mean, I think that this fund should be filled with much more money than $4.5 billion because how many people are permanently damaged?
		How many people had to be medically discharged from the military because they developed myocarditis, right?
		People will never be able to work again in some cases.
		How many people are permanently disabled or how many people lost a loved one because they were permanently vaccine injured because they dropped dead or they had a loved one that dropped dead.
		I just think that I mean, this fund $4.5 billion does not seem like a lot of money when you think of all the people in our country and all the people around the world who have been vaccine injured by these companies.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		The reason why it is a lot of money is because guess what?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't include the COVID vaccine.
unidentified		It's like, okay, so it doesn't include it.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		That actually falls under the CICP, which is the countermeasures injury compensation program.
		You have the VICP, the CICP, it's all crazy, honestly.
		And basically, that was established in 05, really just during public health emergencies for those vaccines.
		So, you know, as of June 2024, only $419,000 have been paid out for COVID-19 injuries.
		I know that Congress would have to pass legislation in order for it to be part of the VICP and it's just not covered.
		And then, you know, you'd have to get the 75 cent excise tax because somebody's got to pay for this, right?
		The fact, regardless, CICP, VICP, the fact that this exists, right?
		It's something's wrong.
		If they're willing to put all this money into this, which by the way, we're all paying for, something's wrong.
		They know something's wrong.
		And the fact that it doesn't include COVID-19 is even worse.
		So it's all extremely scary.
		And I talk to people every day and I have to explain this.
		And it's sad.
		It really is.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it makes you wonder too, how many of these incidents have been reported as well?
		Because maybe you can get into the VEERS system.
		I know some people are familiar with the VEER system of reporting where hospitals and doctors are required to report instances of injury or death.
		But of course, we saw there was a lot of VERS fraud during COVID, during the lockdowns and during the scandemic, as I like to call it.
		And so how does this, how does this relate to the VER system?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Well, so worldwide, there was about 40,000 deaths, a little bit lower from COVID vaccine, right?
		So in America, that's 19,000.
		And then out of those 38,000, 24% occurred on the day of vaccination or within one or two days, right?
		So as we've seen and we've heard, it doesn't prove causation, but there's definitely a strong correlation.
		And an adverse event basically means any health problem that happens after somebody takes a certain medicine or gets a vaccine, but it doesn't automatically mean the medicine or the vaccine caused it.
		Now, what's interesting about VIRS is that only 1%, 1% of cases are reported.
		And it takes a doctor 45 minutes per case.
		They don't have the time and they don't want to take the time to fill it out.
		So it's not really reported.
		So these numbers are pretty big, considering that only 1% of cases are reported.
unidentified		And yeah, it's pretty concerning.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Big numbers, but only 1%.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		And then, of course, you know, we saw reports about shedding and spike proteins in the aftermath of COVID as well.
		So, you know, a lot of people started to feel fatigue.
		They started to get nausea.
		They started to notice all types of weird ailments with their body, even if they didn't take the vaccine, which is why I said, even if you didn't take the vaccine, you can still have symptoms of somebody who is vaccine injured because, well, the way that the vaccine was created to target the virus, right?
		Well, the virus was created as a bioweapon.
		Many people believe this.
		I personally believe this.
		And so it was created to not leave your body after running its course, but to attack your body.
		And if it was created to attack your body, and mind you, I'm not a doctor, but I can only imagine that it was created.
		I mean, how would a bioweapon attack your body?
		It would attack your body by having cellular damage, right?
		Creating some kind of cellular damage to alter the functioning of your body long term.
		And so what else can you, what else can you tell us about, I guess, people who didn't take the vaccine and how they can be vaccine injured by being in proximity to people who did take the vaccine, either through the spike proteins or the or the shedding?
		And how, what, what kind of symptoms, what kind of symptoms would they experience if they were a victim of shedding or they were a victim of these spike proteins?
		Because I think a lot of people now, right, as we head into the winter, winter months, it's like, oh, well, go get your, go, go get your COVID-19 booster.
		Even President Trump the other day, he had a physical at Walter Reed.
		And I saw the report was going viral because it said, oh, well, President Trump had a, had a COVID-19, had a COVID-19 booster shot.
		So now with all these people rushing to go get their physicals or to go get their flu shots or their COVID-19 boosters again, when you're traveling on planes, you're going to the grocery store, you're interacting with people, right?
		Am I correct to infer that that's now going to cause a whole new population of people to be exposed to a fresh batch of these COVID vaccines, which means a fresh batch of shedding and spike proteins?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, you said it.
		Just because you didn't get the shot doesn't mean you're safe, right?
		So basically when you get the shot, it gives off mRNA particles shedding, right?
		And the FDA has acknowledged this risk of shedding from gene therapy products and the COVID-19 mRNA.
		It actually falls under this category due to the mechanism of inducing the body to produce those spike proteins you were talking about.
		The other scary thing is that there's nothing preventing mRNA vaccination from being used in livestock.
		And that includes organic.
		And so our livestock, they're getting vaccines and we're eating the livestock.
		You know, if you do the math, it's like, wow, you could refuse the shot, but between shedding and the livestock and all the other things, that is so crazy.
		I mean, it says, you know, since organic farmers can't routinely use drugs to prevent diseases and parasites, they mostly use animal selection and management practices.
		Only a few drugs, such as vaccines, are allowed.
		So nobody is safe.
		And I think people are going to think twice this round before taking a shot.
		And, you know, mRNA, which is what the COVID-19 vaccine falls under, has caused a whole level of damage compared to like traditional vaccines, like the flu shot, for example.
		And it's all about those spike proteins you were talking about.
		So spike protein is the part of a virus that helps enter your cells.
		Okay.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		And then that's why President Trump and Secretary Kennedy had a crackdown.
		That's one of the first things that he did upon being confirmed: they had a crackdown.
		They banned gain of function and they had a crackdown on a lot of this mRNA technology.
		And they're conducting their review on it right now, from my understanding, not just at HHS, but also at the FDA.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it basically teaches your cells to make, well, supposedly harmless spike proteins, right?
		So the whole point is your immune system learns to recognize and fight it.
		But spike proteins, they're the leading cause, known cause of vaccine industry, right?
		And these spike proteins, they might travel where they shouldn't, like beyond, you know, the injection site or linger too long.
		And the spike protein itself and how your body reacts to it, it plays a key role in certain vaccine-related side effects.
		You know, you talk about myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, and it's really, really dangerous.
		And what it all ties back to, and I'm excited to talk about, is the health of the gut microbiome.
		And that's your mini ecosystem that keeps your body balanced.
		It all comes back to that because the gut microbiome, it's the number one factor determining our health.
		And it fixes the problems that things like these vaccinations have caused.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, it's interesting that you said that because I recently had a respiratory infection, which of course was made even worse by the fact that I have asthma.
		So I had to go get to get a prednisone shot.
		I got an antibiotic.
		It was like, you know, the steroid shot.
		And they give it to you in an injection.
		And so the pill format because it just like helps, I guess, get you to a level at which, you know, your body can jumpstart the healing process.
		And then I took a ZPAC.
		They gave me a zithromyosin.
		And then they also gave me like another injectable antibiotic as well.
		And then they said they think I had pneumonia.
		So then they gave me another antibiotic.
		And what's really interesting is when I was having a really hard time breathing, I went to one of these supplement stores and they were telling me, oh, well, you know, if you are having issues with your breathing, you might want to try to get some gut supplements.
		And I really honestly didn't understand what this lady that was trying to, you know, sell me these supplements at the store was saying because I was like, well, how would my gut and how would my stomach really have anything to do with my with my breathing and whether or not I had a respiratory infection and whether or not I had asthma and lung damage from COVID?
		But now seeing this story and seeing how apparently kimchi can actually serve as some kind of a treatment or some kind of a supplemental aid to people who are having issues with vaccine injuries or injuries from COVID, or maybe you've been a victim of shedding or the spike proteins.
		Again, you do not have to take the vaccine in order to have these issues.
		My respiratory infection was made so much worse because I had COVID previously, which gave me asthma long term, never had it before, never once took the vaccine.
		And so now I guess it makes more sense to me having read this report about how we can get the screenshot up on the TV here about the strategies for the management of spike protein related pathology and how your gut microbes and the way that your gut microbes interact with your body.
		It says right there, gut microbia on host immune effectors and subsequent inflammatory profile, GM composition and function might contribute to explaining the individual resilience and fragility with respect to COVID-19 and the response to therapeutics and vaccines.
		So this just completely blew my mind because when I think of vaccine injuries and I think of people who have, you know, long-term damage because of COVID or the vaccine, the last thing I think about is use your gut health.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's so interesting.
		I mean, it all comes down to education, right?
		And by the way, that's so many antibiotics that you were given.
		That's just crazy.
		And there's something natural that you can take instead.
		And if you don't know, you don't know.
		And that's why education is so important and we can protect ourselves.
		And basically what the study says is the number one thing to increase microbial diversity in the gut is kimchi.
		And it is unbelievable.
		It keeps your body healthy and balanced.
		It supports immunity, improves digestion, and protects against harmful microbes.
		Kimchi is a superfood, right?
		It is the king of fermented foods.
		It deserves a crown.
		No other fermented foods can say that, not sauerkraut, right?
		Kimchi wears that crown.
		It has over 900, 900 unique strains of beneficial bacteria, which is really cool.
		And there's nothing better you can consume for your gut.
		And you will increase your immunity, make it stronger.
		And the reason why is because 70 to 80% of our immune system lives in our gut.
		And a lot of people do not know that.
		And, you know, there's a war going on constantly in your gut between the good and the bad bacteria.
		And when you eat fermented foods, especially kimchi, you're sending these special forces, the best of the best, right, into your gut.
		And it feeds the good gut bacteria and it crowds out the bad guys and it keeps your gut healthy because it's all about balance, right?
		And if something disrupts the balance, it leads to gut problems and chronic diseases, diabetes, obesity.
		And fermented foods like that, it just keeps your gut healthy.
		And so your villi can do their job better.
		And villi are these little tiny fingers inside your gut and they grab nutrients from your food and they send them into other parts of your body.
		And the kimchi helps protect and strengthen your villi.
		So it just does its job better.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		And it's this, would this help with something like a like an H. pylori?
		Yeah, like an H. pi, H. pylori bacteria and all these types of, you know, like if you travel abroad, they say you get parasites or a lot of people have H. pylori and they don't realize that they have H. pylori.
		And apparently that's one of these bacteria that can cause you to have respiratory issues.
		And I was looking into this more after, you know, I was trying to understand, not saying that I have H. pylori, but I was just looking up after I had heard that your gut health could really impact your ability to breathe and your respiratory system over time.
		I started looking into this.
		And so, I mean, I was just pretty mind blown to realize that or to find out that kimchi, not only right, it's a fermented food, it's healthy for you.
		I mean, I always thought they said it was healthy to eat kimchi.
		It was just good for your body, but I didn't really understand why.
		But it's an antifungal, it's antibacterial, it's an antiviral, and it's also an anti-parasitic.
		So it's all in one.
		And when you go to the supplement store, when I was there, I was buying teas and all types of different things.
		I was buying like, you know, oregano oil, all types of things I was buying.
		I noticed that they have all types of products, right?
		Tons of products that they sell individually, each of these being antifungals, antibacterials, antivirals, and anti-parasitics.
		And the thing about kimchi that I find to be so remarkable after reading this study is that it's all in one.
		You don't need to buy, you know, 10 different supplements.
		You don't need to buy 10 different pill bottles because again, that makes my stomach hurt.
		I have so many supplement bottles around my house and I don't really, I don't really take all of them because it's such a pain in the ass having to take so many different things.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really a foreign one.
		And I mean, I think kimchi has proven time and time again, right?
		That has the power to battle all these horrible microbials, but naturally and effectively.
		And you know who else in the health world loves kimchi?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Kennedy.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've heard him talk about it before.
unidentified		Yeah.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a there was a video.
		I think he was like taking his shirt off and they asked him because they're like, oh, wow, you're so fit.
		And, you know, they had him taking his shirt off and doing pull-ups.
		And they're like, oh, well, what's your regimen?
		And what do you do?
		And then I think he was on Joe Rogan too.
		And he was talking about his whole regimen of what he does and what he takes.
		And he was talking about how he eats a lot of kimchi.
		I think we have that clip, actually.
		We can go ahead and play the kimchi, the kimchi clip, and then also the clip of him working out.
		Let's go ahead and play those clips.
unidentified		Mainly meat and then fermented vegetables, anything fermented.
		So a lot of kimchi and all kinds of fermented vegetables.
		And it's really, I would say it's dramatically changed my, you know, everything.
		That's pretty incredible.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm 32.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I can't do that.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I'm about to turn 50 and I hope that when I'm 71, you know, I feel that way.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		We should all aspire, right, to age healthily, but like the proof is in the pudding.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I hope I look like that when I'm 71.
		I hope I'm like muscular in tone and buff and whatnot.
		But I mean, look, you hear a lot about a lot about how people who live in Asia, for example, where they eat a lot of kimchi, I mean, where they, where they incorporate kimchi into their diet practically every day, they have a longer standard of living too.
		Like they live a lot longer.
		And there's a lot of studies that there's a lot of studies that show that there's all these different zones in the world.
		I mean, I remember hearing about this when I traveled to Costa Rica too, just how there's certain zones in the world, the Mediterranean is one of them, where people live a lot longer, right?
		And people live into their 90s and sometimes, you know, past 100 years old, a lot longer than people in other parts of the world.
		And it really all comes down to your diet.
		And so it's really interesting to see, you know, just the connection between kimchi and, you know, people living longer and also having increased immunity and just an overall higher standard of health and living.
		So something new every day.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
		I mean, who knew, right?
		You know, it's interesting.
		There was a study when kimchi was introduced to human cells of all ages, young and old, in a test tube via in vitro, it slowed down the aging of the cells.
		And the Korean population, I mean, they live six years longer than the average American.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and their skincare too.
		They also have like really, it's so funny because I got an ad for this Korean skincare gel the other day.
		And I was like, wow, you know, there really is something to it.
		I went to boarding school and a lot of the, half the kids at my boarding school were Asian.
		They were like, a lot of them were from China and a lot of them were from Korea.
		And I remember thinking like, why does every Korean woman who I go to school with look like she's like a porcelain doll?
		You know, I used to, I used to collect porcelain dolls and they have this like porcelain white skin that almost looks like it would crack, right?
		Like glass.
		And it's glass.
		It's like glass skin.
		And so I guess it has beauty benefits too from, you know, eating kimchi.
		It also helps restore not just your gut health, but also your skin health on the cellular level.
		So I had no idea, honestly.
		I mean, whenever I see kimchi, I'm like, ooh, you know, like I could taste, I could eat some of it.
		Some of it's very spicy.
		You know, when you go to these like Asian restaurants, they give you a side of kimchi.
		I, you know, I never would eat it because it was always too spicy for me.
		So I had no idea that you could take it also in a pill format and it would still have the same benefits.
		I always knew that eating kimchi was healthy, but it was always a little too spicy for me at the restaurant.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I happen to love it, but you're not going to eat, you know, piles of it every day.
		And it's just not part of our staple diet.
		So, you know, Bright Corps created a convenient capsule for daily use without the smell and the odor and bad taste and all that stuff.
		It's low sodium and the store-bought kimchi actually is high sodium.
		So that's a huge benefit.
		It's 100% made in the USA.
		It's all natural.
		It's non-GMO.
		But the best part of it, and when I talk to my clients and when we at Bright Corps listen to our customers, they share these success stories that are so crazy.
		It's like unbelievable.
		And I've experienced them myself.
		So let's talk about bloating, right?
		So people who've had problems with their digestion or bloating now report a flatter belly.
		And I take these kimchi pills and I will tell you that is 100% true.
		It really is.
		It's just such a better feeling.
		You know, talking about your immune system getting sick all the time, right?
		No longer.
		We already talked about skin and thicker hair, weight loss, right?
		People cannot lose the weight and now they can.
		But the most impressive thing, and I love to hear this, is that since they got the COVID shot, they've experienced a variety of symptoms, right?
		You have your headaches and your heart palpitations, your sleep and your mood, seizures.
		The list goes on and on, right?
		They can't identify the cause of the symptoms other than, hey, I got the vaccine.
		So the results that they've reported back to us since using Kim Chi1, it's really been nothing short of remarkable.
		So it's really nice to see that.
		It's amazing.
		It works and the benefits are unbelievable.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I have a bottle here too.
		So I'm going to be trying it as well because, I mean, well, one, I want to try to rid myself of some of this damage from COVID.
		I mean, like I said, I never took the vaccine, but I feel like I feel like I did.
		I mean, I honestly feel like I did when I, when I hear, you know, some of the people I know who took it talk about lethargy and they feel like they're so tired all the time.
		I mean, I do.
		I feel tired.
		I feel bloated a lot of the time too.
		So that's, you really feel like you, you have decreased bloating taking it.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		It is such a nice feeling.
		I mean, my, my pants feel better.
		You just feel better.
		You don't feel as, you know.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		How long did it take you to like notice a difference when you when you started taking it?
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Probably within a week or two, to be quite honest.
		It was pretty immediate.
		So, I mean, everyone has different issues.
		And so whatever your issue is, you're going to see that change.
		For me, it was.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you, that's what happened to me when I took COVID.
		It was the weirdest thing.
		I actually gained like, I literally gained 15 pounds after I lost the weight since then, but it reset my metabolism.
		It was the strangest thing.
		And I couldn't even eat.
		I wasn't even eating because, you know, COVID makes you feel very ill.
		So it's not like I was eating a ton.
		But in the aftermath of COVID, I noticed like my whole body got like very swollen and I gained 15 pounds.
		So like I said before, a lot of people had all types of symptoms.
		And so whatever symptom you may have, if you feel like you are vaccine injured, you probably are vaccine injured.
		And if you didn't take the vaccine and you feel like you're vaccine injured, well, it's probably because you've been exposed to other people.
		And as people start heading to the doctor ahead of November, because now they're talking about, oh, you know, go get your COVID booster.
		It's not mandatory now, but you should really protect yourself from the shedding.
		And I think that this is one of the ways that you can protect yourself from being impacted by the spike proteins.
		And, you know, you're sitting on a plane.
		People are going to be traveling to go see their family members over the holiday season.
		I just, I'm certainly going to be taking it because, like I said, I am not taking the vaccine.
		I would never take the COVID vaccine, but traveling like I do sitting on planes nonstop, part of me wonders if one of the reasons why like I get migraines and fatigue a lot of the time is because I'm surrounded by people who are quite literally shedding on me.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, now that we know, I mean, the science behind it is unbelievable.
		We know kimchi works, right?
		So not trying it to me seems ridiculous.
		I mean, aside from bloating, I'm sleeping better.
		I have more energy.
		The brain fog has disappeared.
		You know, and I'm, I'm 49, right?
		So, I mean, that's sort of naturally going to happen.
		But to be able to take a natural product like that and feel that pretty immediately to me is just pretty incredible.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's really great.
		So you said it also, I see it also helps with headaches as well.
		Did you see an increase in headache relief?
		Because after I had COVID, one of the things I developed was chronic migraines.
		I developed two health, health, health issues immediately after getting COVID.
		And I didn't even have to take the vaccine.
		I got chronic migraines to the point where I had to take a prescription migraine medicine.
		And I was actually like hospitalized for my migraines too.
		Like it was so bad.
		I honestly felt like I was having some type of, you know, serious health health episode.
		And they had to do all this type of like neurological monitoring on me because the migraines were so severe.
		Like I couldn't even look into the light.
		And then asthma.
		So I'm really looking forward to taking kimchi because, I mean, I really sympathize with people who are vaccine injured and then people who didn't take the vaccine like myself, who just completely got attacked by a bioweapon.
		I don't know if you believe it was a bioweapon, but I really do.
		And if kimchi, if this, this is a study that I think more people need to see and more people need to try because so many people are suffering.
		So many people are suffering around the world from these injuries.
		And that's a great remedy.
		All you have to do is take a kimchi supplement to get some relief.
		So for people who are watching who are interested in trying this, it's called Kim Chi1.
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		I'm going to be trying it myself because everybody who follows me knows I've talked about this for like two years now about how I used to be able to, and they could just see like the way I talk.
		If you, if you've watched me over the last like 11 years or so, I definitely over the last two years have become more short of breath.
		So I talk about it.
		Like it's, you know, I'm a little self-conscious about it, I will say, but, you know, I'm honest with people.
		So they don't think I'm like, you know, having some kind of weird episode while I'm talking on air.
		I tell people, like, look, I just don't feel the same like I used to feel two years ago.
		I really honestly have developed like a chronic breathing condition.
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ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's not even, sorry to interrupt you, but it's not even just about the savings, right?
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laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and another, they also have other products too.
		I know that, I mean, I'm going to be trying the Kim Chi1 and I'm really looking forward to this.
		But one of the other products that I use as well from Brightcore is their collagen.
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		I like putting a, I like putting the powder in my coffee.
		And, you know, I, I really like the Brightcore products.
		So, I mean, this is specifically focused on kimchi, this kimchi one product through Brightcore.
		But if you call them or you visit their website, be sure that you also check out their other products as well, because there's sleep aids, there's all types of different aids.
		Again, collagen, but this product specifically is the one that studies are now showing helps with people who have sustained vaccine injuries.
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		Use code Loomer and get up to 25% off or call 888-315-6604 for up to 50% off and free shipping.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		And you get the first 100 callers, Laura, they get a free bottle of vitamin D plus K2.
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laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		So that's incredible.
		Yeah, that's that's also a really good supplement.
		When I got my blood work done, I was vitamin D deficient.
		So I get the, I get the vitamin D injections every so often, but I also take, I mean, I also take that supplement too, because I can't really overdose on it.
		But, you know, I always just feel better when I take vitamin D. So get call because like she said, the first hundred callers get that free bottle of vitamin D and K. So, Ellie, anything else you want to add?
		I mean, it's been a really informative interview.
		Great having you on.
		I think it's really relevant, especially now with what's happening with the Trump administration and also the changes that we're seeing under Secretary Kennedy at Health and Human Services.
		And also just kind of like this new focus in America on health.
		I think a lot of people have become more health conscious since the pandemic and also since people were forced to take something that they may have not necessarily wanted to take.
		And also since the creation of the Maha movement.
		So hopefully Americans, you know, will start asking more questions and taking their health into their own hands instead of just listening to so-called experts.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we've taken back, right?
		I mean, these are our bodies and we have the right to control what we put into our bodies.
		And the best thing you can do is educate yourself.
		And now that, you know, Kim Chi, you're aware of the magical power of it.
		I mean, who knew?
		Now you can take something that will really just benefit you now.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		It makes sense, though, honestly.
		And, you know, there's people that may say, oh, it's just, you know, it's a gimmick.
		Oh, it's this.
		Honestly, I believe it because when you look, when you look at the lifespan of people from, you know, different continents, look at people in Asia.
		Look at people in Korea.
		They really do.
		Don't take it from me.
		Don't take it from Ellie.
		Go look it up yourself.
		They have a higher standard of living and they also live a lot longer and they also have better skin.
		You see people in America and they're covered in wrinkles.
		They have sun damage and they have all types of, you know, aging lines on their skin.
		And mind you, you know, I'm sure people in Korea get plastic surgery too.
		They get Botox too.
		But I also think that, you know, there's a lot to it.
		It's a diet.
		And they do eat a lot.
		They eat a lot of rice and they eat a lot of kimchi.
		Those are two things that they eat a lot of, a lot of rice and a lot of kimchi.
		And so it really does make sense, not just on a scientific level, but also on a cultural level, too, when you, when you compare people.
		I also find it interesting that people in Asia who consume a lot of carbs, they constantly eat rice.
		They eat rice with nearly every single meal, yet they're very thin.
		You don't really see a lot of fat people in places like Korea where they eat a lot of kimchi.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		No, and it's a pretty amazing product.
		And when you're healthy on the inside, it should reflect on the outside.
		So like you, you can see it, right?
		And you will see it when you take kimchi.
		I promise you.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, I'll be reporting back with my results for sure.
		I'm looking forward to it because I would love to, you know, feel better.
		I would love to feel less bloated and I would love to just have overall better health.
		And also see, you know, how it impacts my own breathing too.
		Because if everything is centered around your gut health, it's going to be really interesting to see if I can speak longer, if I don't feel as short of breath and if I don't have these crazy migraines.
		And I feel like I also have like chronic nausea occasionally too.
		I mean, I have, I have a nausea medicine, not to get too personal with my own health, but you know, I really do blame the virus, which I call a bioweapon, for what happened to me because I was totally fine before I had COVID.
		And I know a lot of people in the comments and a lot of people watching have similar stories.
		So, Ellie, I really want to thank you so much for spending so much time tonight talking about this product and talking about the initiatives of Maha and Brightcore and the health benefits of kimchi.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
ellie hirsch ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Thank you.
		Thanks for coming on.
		We have all that information.
		Again, www.mybrightcore.com/slash lumer.
		Pretty relevant to what's happening right now.
		I mean, if there's always, if there's a natural remedy to some type of health issue or ailment, I always recommend the natural remedy.
		So definitely check it out.
		Also, made in the USA.
		That's another thing that President Trump recently addressed to how he is trying to reduce the amount of medications, supplements, pharmaceuticals that are manufactured abroad, right?
		We get a lot of our medications come from China.
		And what's really great about these Bright Core supplements is that they're made in America.
unidentified		They're made in America.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Talked about health, talked about the animal testing.
		Now it's time to talk about jihad.
		You know, look, I made the news.
		There were a lot of news reports about my comments in the aftermath.
		Well, in the days leading up to this peace deal as well, because everybody knows I'm very critical of Islam and I'm also very critical of Qatar.
		And a lot has happened over the last 72 hours in our country.
		We saw the release of all the remaining hostages, the 20 living hostages from Israel who were held in captivity by Hamas.
		And we're going to see the release of the bodies of the other hostages who were unfortunately killed.
		We also saw the release of Palestinian convicted terrorists.
		I'm not going to call them hostages.
		I'm not going to call them prisoners because, you know, I'm not going to express a moral equivalency between the innocent Israelis who were taken hostage and the Hamas terrorists who participated in October 7th, who were detained and arrested and jailed by Israeli police forces and also the IDF for their participation in the most brutal attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
		So leading up to this release, we saw Secretary of War Pete Hagseth announce that, and he did this next to the defense minister of Qatar.
		They signed an agreement to allow for Qataris.
		Qatar, of course, is the funder of Hamas.
		We know that Qatar funds Hamas.
		We know that Qatar had involvement in the 9-11 Islamic terrorist attacks.
		They harbored Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in the years leading up to 9-11.
		He was, of course, the mastermind of 9-11.
		And he was working for the Department of Water and Utilities in Qatar at the time of the 9-11 Islamic terrorist attacks.
		And interesting story, in 1996, the FBI had actually told Qatar that they were going to be arresting Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.
		They actually, the Qataris actually tipped him off, right?
		Tipped him off, and he was able to evade being arrested by the FBI.
		And of course, we know 9-11 happened five years later.
		And now Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is sitting in Guantanamo Bay awaiting a trial.
		And one of the last things that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris tried to do before leaving the White House was they tried to negotiate a plea deal for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, right?
		So really treacherous activity going on.
		You know, one of the reasons why I voted for President Trump the first time and the second time and the third time was his commitment to cracking down on Islamic jihad.
		I posted a really great video on my ex account a couple of days ago.
		I've posted it several times of President Trump over the years talking about the Islamic problem, right?
		Talking about, oh, we have a Muslim problem.
		We have an Islam problem.
		Islam hates us.
		And it's a really interesting clip because it shows you the mindset of MAGA when MAGA was firstborn, right?
		Firstborn.
		Because now, right, we've seen President Trump evolve.
		I'm not saying that his positions have changed, but I would say, objectively speaking, as somebody who considers myself to be a die-hard supporter of President Trump, that he over the last six years or so, I'd say, has had a more, I don't even want to call it measured because there was nothing unmeasured about what he was saying before.
		But it's a lot more nuanced, a lot more like nuanced approach to Islam and Islamic terror.
		You don't really see him use the term Islamic terror anymore.
		He's not as aggressive in his language in talking about Islam or Muslims as he was when he first ran.
		I want to go ahead and play this clip just so you can all see what I'm talking about, because I think it's important to see a lot of people didn't vote for President Trump in 2020 and 2020, in 2016.
		A lot of people were first-time Trump voters in 2024.
		And, you know, when you listen to my criticisms of the administration's handling of the global war on terror or Islamic jihad in the homeland, I think it's important for everybody to have an understanding of what President Trump used to say about Islam and what he originally campaigned on when addressing Islam and Islamic terror so that you can understand why I have been so openly critical of the administration's decision to allow for
		Qataris to have a training facility or their own airbase, right?
		I know that the Secretary of War, the Department of War, is now kind of backtracking after we all watched that press conference and we heard Secretary Hexeth say in his own words, exactly what we all heard, right?
		We all heard what they said.
		The Qataris are getting their own facility.
		So look, I think that we all understand what happened on 9-11 and we know what happened when Muslims came to our country to learn how to fly planes.
		I think it's a grave mistake and a big threat to our national security to allow for Qataris, to allow for Saudis, to allow for anybody from Islamic Nation to come and basically take up space and training within our military bases for the sake of learning how to fly fighter jets.
		We saw it right before 9-11 and we saw it in the aftermath of 9-11 where Muslims or Islamic defectors on bases, right?
		Look at Nadal Hassan, for example, right?
		Going absolutely rogue, going absolutely crazy, murdering people on base.
		Look at what just happened in Pensacola, Florida in 2019, where a Saudi pilot that was training opened fire, okay, carried out an Islamic terrorist attack, was extremely critical of America, extremely critical of Israel, opened fire, killing several American citizens who were also training on the Navy base in Pensacola.
		So we have a precedent.
		We already have an understanding of what happens when you allow for terror-sympathizing individuals from terror financing countries like Qatar or Saudi Arabia to come and train on U.S. soil.
		So before I bring in my next guest, John Guandolo, great friend of mine, also former FBI agent and national security expert, consultant who goes around the country briefing people on the threat of jihad and how they can identify Sharia law and also jihadist movements within their own states or their cities or towns, whatever it may be.
		I want to play this clip, this compilation clip of President Trump's statements about Islam over the years so that you can understand why original MAGA voices are a little disappointed in the administration's handling of the Islamification of America.
		Let's go ahead and play this clip.
unidentified		But you do believe overall there is a Muslim problem in the world.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Well, there is a Muslim problem, absolutely.
		You just have to turn on your television, Sam.
		I think Islam hates us.
unidentified		Did you mean all 1.6 billion Muslims?
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I mean a lot of them.
		You look at what's happening with the Quran.
		It's a pretty scary thing.
		There's something there that teaches some very negative vibe.
		They do not respect us at all.
		Large portions of a group of people, Islam, large portions want to use very, very harsh means.
		You have more than a handful of moderate Muslims, but you certainly have a problem with Muslims.
		If you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and with death in their eyes and on their minds, we're going to have to do something.
		They're trying to take over our children and convince them how wonderful ISIS is and how wonderful Islam is.
		And we don't know what's happening.
unidentified		And we have to look at the Muslims and we have to do something.
unidentified		We cannot stand by and be the stupid people while our country is destroyed.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I want surveillance of certain mosques, okay?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Now, joining me to discuss the Islamification of America and President Trump's handling of the Islamic threat in the homeland is my friend and former FBI agent John Guandolo.
		John, it's a pleasure to have you on the program tonight.
		Thanks so much for joining me.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for having me, Laura.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		So we saw this peace deal.
		I'll just jump right into it.
		Played that clip for you.
		Obviously, you're a Trump supporter.
		You're a Trump voter.
		And one of the things that, you know, we were all so excited about when President Trump first was elected in 2016 and also, again, in the aftermath of, you know, the stolen election when we were hoping that they weren't going to steal the election.
		We were going to have a second Trump term.
		And then we fought so hard throughout the stolen election of 2020, exposing the continued Islamification of America under the Biden regime, open borders, the flooding of our country with criminal illegal aliens and jihadis.
		Tom Homan has come on my show and addressed the fact that we have over 2 million jihadists who came in undetected during the Biden regime.
		There's no denying that we are on track to become Europe.
		There's no denying it.
		And so my question to you, John, is, you know, what are we as Americans supposed to think about this so-called peace deal?
		Yes, it's great that President Trump has secured the release of the hostages.
		I think that he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
		I think that it is commendable that he was able to get both sides of the aisle and all these other world leaders and Islamic leaders to the table this weekend in Israel and Egypt for the peace summit.
		But can we really have peace with Islam?
		Can we really have peace with an ideology that calls for the subjugation and killing of non-Muslims?
		And what can President Trump's administration do when the American people have been hoodwinked into thinking that Islam is something that it isn't?
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, that's a big series of questions.
		So let me try to break it down as best I can.
		First of all, you have to recognize what the threat is.
		So I'm going to take it in at least three pieces, your question.
		So first we'll start with the peace deal.
		First of all, in Islam, peace is the situation that exists when the entire world submits to Islam and Sharia and there's a global Islamic state, a caliphate, where Sharia is imposed on the earth.
		That's it.
		That is the definition of peace in Islam.
		And I think the problem with this administration and with really since the Clinton administration and over the last 30 plus years is our leaders, our presidents, our vice presidents, our national security advisors, our members of Congress, our prosecutors, our DOJ, our FBI, CIA, DHS after it was created, have all decided we're going to fight this enemy without understanding this enemy.
		And the Islamic movement, the global Islamic movement, the North American movement, the U.S. movement, they all state that Sharia is not only the blueprint for how they fight the war, it's what they seek to impose on the earth.
		And it's that simple.
		And so if our leaders want to understand what to do, how to make decisions, how to understand the enemy, how to do predictive analysis, you actually just have to pick up a book of Islamic law, authoritative Islamic law, and read it.
		And what you find is these words and phrases that Islamic leaders throw out must be translated from English to English through the filter of Sharia.
		So for instance, peace, as I just described it.
		Terrorism.
		Terrorism in Islam is killing a Muslim without right under Sharia.
		So Sharia allows Muslims to be killed for certain reasons.
		But if I go back to the first Trump administration, Mr. Trump went overseas and was sitting there with the leader of Saudi Arabia, and the room was filled with all the members of the OIC, every leader of every Islamic nation on the earth.
		I think only Iran's leader was not there.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Explain to the viewers what the OIC is, because I don't really think a lot of people have a detailed understanding.
		And look, I don't want to underestimate the intelligence of viewers.
		However, I think that even the Trump administration has a limited understanding of the Islamic threat.
		I mean, we saw, look, I love President Trump.
		I think he's a great president.
		I think that it's commendable what he accomplished.
		But I get a little uneasy, I will say, even as a Diehard Trump supporter, watching the president talk about how Erdogan is a great guy and Erdogan has one of the most powerful militaries in the world.
		When just, you know, a day after President Trump's meeting with Erdogan at the White House, you see Erdogan supporters in Turkey waving the Hamas flag, waving the Taliban flag, calling for the destruction of Israel, calling for the spread of a caliphate and, you know, the Ottoman Empire.
		And we know that he is the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in America.
		So just go ahead and explain what the OIC is, and then you can continue with your.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		The OIC is the Organization of Islamic Conference, renamed the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
		It's a 57-member organization.
		It's the largest voting bloc in the United Nations.
		And that's the leader of every Muslim nation on earth, 56 nations, and then something they call the state of Palestine is the 57th member.
		And the OIC, so everyone understands, if you go to their website, they say they are the collective voice of the Muslim world, and they actually are.
		Every year they have a meeting with representatives of every Muslim nation on earth.
		And every three years, they meet and they make decisions approved by all the leaders of the Muslim world that are legally binding on Muslims.
		And in 1990, they approved, and in 1993, they served to the United Nations the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, which officially defines and officially says we, the entire Muslim world at the head of state level, understand human rights only through the lens of Sharia.
		And it's the last article specifically says the only definition, the only source of reference for us, the entire Muslim world for human rights is Islamic Sharia.
		And Islamic Sharia, 100% of all published Islamic law, states that non-Muslims must convert to Islam or be killed unless you are Christian, Jew, or Zoroastrian.
		Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians must convert to Islam, submit to Islamic law, and pay the non-Muslim poll tax, or be killed.
		Those who leave Islam, apostasize from Islam, must be killed.
		Those who commit adultery must be killed.
		Those who kill Muslims without right, like American and other allied nation soldiers in battle, they must be killed, etc.
		These are normative and universally taught Islam.
		Now, I want to pause for a second.
		So we have to understand every Muslim nation on earth is a party to the OIC, and that is one of the key organizations at the geopolitical level driving the global Islamic movement.
		When I was working first in the FBI and then the DOD And talking to assistant secretaries of state and other senior people, the State Department, they had no idea what the Cairo Declaration was.
		They never heard of it.
		And so when you have people making public statements, like the former leader of Iran, Ahmadinejad, saying we're going to drag him into international court and charge him for killing homosexuals when the UN has accepted the Cairo Declaration, where the entire Muslim world says Sharia, we agree with the International Declaration on Human Rights, except where it contradicts Sharia.
		Well, Sharia says homosexuals can be killed for the mere fact they're homosexual.
		So in the legal.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		So essentially, the United Nations is a Sharia adherent body, which explains why they are so hostile to the Jews.
		I mean, we see how they stage a boycott every single time.
		Netanyahu speaks.
		And we saw, too, there was a Trump administration official at this latest UNGA conference actually get assaulted by one of these Palestinian activists.
		It was a big scandal.
		Is that what you're saying?
		You're saying that the UN adheres to Sharia?
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, the largest voting bloc in the UN is the Muslim nations.
		And they have great sway, especially with a lot of the other nations, because of money from places like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, and other nations, UAE.
		And so you have divisions in the Muslim world, but anywhere you see friction in the Muslim world, it's always a matter of two things, Sharia or power, who's going to be in charge.
		So when you see Muslim nations going against each other, it's matters of Sharia and or matters of who's going to be in charge, who's going to be the strong horse.
		But they all agree.
		Every Muslim nation, including Egypt and UAE and Jordan and these other countries, all agree that the purpose of Islam is to establish a global Islamic state, a caliphate under Sharia.
		Yet you have people inside the inner circles of the White House, on the national security staffs, in the leadership, executive level of CIA, FBI, DHS, that not only don't know this, their understanding is exactly opposite of what the truth is.
		And then, of course, you throw in there are people in these organizations that are actively working on behalf of enemies of the United States, i.e.
		the Islamic movement.
		And it really complicates the matter from a national security perspective.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		We recently saw Kip Roy, Representative Randy Fine, also Tommy Tuberville, senator in Alabama, create legislation to ban Sharia law.
		And there's now a discussion taking place within the federal government about whether or not we're going to ban Sharia law.
		And now, of course, you have all of these Islamic groups putting out hit pieces in the media against these representatives saying that they're Islamophobic and saying that there is no Sharia law and that it's just a right-wing conspiracy theory.
		What do you think about the various pieces of legislation that have been put forth by members of Congress, senators, and in some cases, even governors?
		You had Ron DeSantis the other day say that he'd be willing to sign a bill to ban Sharia law in Florida if the legislature wanted to take that up.
		This legislative session in Tallahassee, we also saw Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, also commit to banning Sharia law.
		However, they still have Sharia law in Texas.
		You still have Muslims on video walking around trying to enforce Sharia law.
		We now also have influencer campaigns online where influencers appear to actually be getting paid to promote Sharia law, if you can believe it or not.
		I believe we actually have that video.
		We can play it for you.
		But what are your thoughts on these bills?
		Do you think that they're actually going to have any success?
		And how can we further educate the public about Sharia?
		Because the media just wants to gaslight everybody into thinking that we don't have Sharia law.
		So why don't you set the record straight?
		Do we have Sharia law?
		What is Sharia law?
		And what's the likelihood that these pieces of legislation are successful and actually signed into law?
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Okay, another big question.
		So let me break this down.
		First of all, anywhere you have an Islamic community, you have Sharia being implemented.
		I could give thousands of examples of my own personal experiences in arresting or interviewing or interrogating jihadis and terrorists, both here and overseas.
		But I'll just say this: you know, when I was interviewing a jihadi in northern Virginia, and he explained a situation going on in the community in his local community, and I said, Did you call the Fairfax County police?
		And he laughed and he said, Why would I do that?
		We adjudicate that through Sharia in our own community.
		And I knew that was the answer, but I wanted to hear him say it.
		That's just a data point for your audience.
		Anywhere there is an Islamic community, there is Sharia.
		Why?
		And that'll answer the question, what it is.
		So when people want to argue this point, I just ask the simple question: what's the purpose of Islam?
		And then you normally get silence.
		And people got their eyeballs look like they're, you know, the spinning wheel on the computer when it's running too slow.
		And the purpose of Sharia, which they teach children in all U.S. Islamic schools.
		And if you look at the most widely used textbook, which I happen to have right here, the most widely used textbook in U.S. Islamic schools, What Islam is All About, it says in the page one, Islam's not a religion, comma, however, but a complete way of life.
		And it goes on to explain that the purpose of Islam and the duty of Muslims is to impose Allah's divine law, Sharia, on the earth and establish a global Islamic state, a caliphate.
		And then, of course, you have peace.
		So that's the first easy way to get there.
		The second way is this.
		Islam divides the entire world into two parts.
		The house of Islam, the Dar al-Islam, where Sharia, Allah's divine law, is the law of the land, and the Dar al-Harb, the house of war, which is everywhere else, where Sharia is not the law of the land.
		The purpose of Islam is to eliminate the Dar al-Harb, the house of war, until the entire world is the Dar al-Islam under Sharia, and then you have peace.
		And this is why, by the way, jihad, which is only legally defined in Islam as warfare against non-Muslims, is not one of the five pillars, but it is the sixth right of pure worship in Islam.
		But it cannot be a pillar because when the whole world is, when Sharia is imposed on the earth, there's no more need for jihad.
		Now, let me go into your other question, two more questions.
		What is Sharia and what about these bills?
		Well, I just said Sharia is Allah's divine law, and it's authoritative Islamic law.
		It comes from the Quran, the uncreated word of God, which has been legally defined.
		Every sentence in the Quran has been legally defined by Islamic scholars that is lawful to obey.
		And anyone that disagrees with, for instance, the tafsir, which is the part of Islamic law that legally defines every verse in the Quran, and to say, like some Christians do, oh, you know, I read this verse in the Bible, and this is what it means to me.
		Well, that's cool.
		If a Muslim says, well, I read verse 9, 5, and what it really means to me is X, well, that's capital crime in Islam because it's a totalitarian system governed by a real law.
		And it's more, the equal comparison is to federal code.
		So if I go into court and say, Your Honor, my client is a U.S. citizen.
		And of course, the prosecution will say, no, he's not.
		Federal code defines a U.S. person as this.
		And I say, well, yeah, but to me and to my client, a U.S. person is someone who just wants to be here and is a good person.
		The judge is going to say, you're in contempt because I'm an attorney practicing in a federal court and I'm trying to use a definition of something that's already legally defined.
		So number one, the Quran, every sentence is legally defined.
		And abrogation in Islam means what comes last chronologically, legally overrides everything else.
		That's the short answer.
		So verse 9, 5, fight and slay the unbelievers wherever you find them and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush legally takes precedence.
		That means if you are a non-Muslim, you convert or you are killed.
		Verse 9, 29, unless you're Jew, unless you're a person of the book, Jew, Christian, Zoroastrian, then you have a third option, which is to submit to Sharia, pay the non-Muslim poll tax, and feel yourself subdued.
		That's it.
		That's the last word.
		Then you have the Sunnah, the example of the Prophet.
		And without going through all the Sirah, the authoritative biography and the Hadith and all that, just say this.
		Authoritatively in Islam, he is the Al-Insan al-Kamil.
		He's the perfect example for every Muslim for all time.
		And what did Muhammad authoritatively do according to authoritative Islam?
		He said, I've been commanded to wage war till they testify there's no God but Allah.
		He married a six-year-old, consummated the relationship when she was nine.
		He tortured people.
		He took sex slaves and he authorized the taking of sex slaves.
		He beheaded up to 900 Jews after the Battle of the Trench.
		If you read the authoritative Sirah, the biography of Muhammad, just read the, I tell people, just read the table of contents, raid, raid, raid, battle, killing this group of people, raid, assassinating this person, raid, raid, raid, battle.
		That's Islam.
		That's where Sharia comes from.
		So all of Sharia can be summed up in the purpose of Islam, which is to wage war against the non-Muslim population.
		But the key is it's total war.
		And primarily, the violence is the lesser part, because primarily in the total war, it's counterintelligence, it's espionage, it's propaganda, it's political warfare, it is economic warfare, it's psychological warfare, and it's nuclear, biological, chemical warfare and traditional conventional war.
	It's all of that.
	And so when you look at the current events, are these pieces of legislation helpful?
	Well, they would have been helpful 10, 20 years ago.
	If they get passed by the time they get passed, my assessment is we will be in a kinetic war here in the United States.
	Because by when?
	Well, we know that there are imminent al-Qaeda attacks that are happening soon.
	Already, the soldiers, the al-Qaeda soldiers have been trained and they're in place right now.
	And I want to go back to something you said when you said this administration does not understand this issue.
	You've got the Attorney General of the United States, the press secretary Levitt for the president, and the director of the NCTC, all calling these enemies violent extremists,
	which is a nonsense term that was given to us by the Islamic enemy that created it in the UK by the Muslim Brotherhood, Muslim Council of Britain, and Muslim Association of Britain, primarily, Muslim Brotherhood organizations, got the UK government to gobble it up.
	And in the 2007 timeframe, our leadership from FBI and then the newly created DHS went over there, gobbled it up, and brought that crap back here to the United States, which is a huge, the countering violent extremist, huge Trojan horse operation.
	And through Republican and Democrat presidents and administrations used it.
	And it was a complete subversion tool.
	There's no legal definition of violent extremism, but there is a legal definition of enemies, which anyone who swears an oath of office to the Constitution and fidelity to the Constitution swears fidelity to protect and defend against all enemies.
	And that's a legally binding oath, which requires every elected official, members of the military, anybody in law enforcement and the intelligence field that they are legally bound to either know all enemies or do a due diligence to know all enemies.
	100% of this enemy says we are Muslims waging jihad in the cause of Allah to establish an Islamic state under Sharia.
	They say it in open court.
	They say it in interviews and interrogations.
	Every jihadi we've killed or captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Africa, and elsewhere, as well as on the streets of Europe and the United States, in courts, in FBI testimony, in recorded conversations through undercovers.
	They all say it.
	And that means our leaders have a duty to know what Sharia is.
	And when our leaders, and I've had many, look me in the eye and say, John, you know, there's no such thing as real Sharia.
	It's like the rocks and the trees.
	It's spiritualism in Islam.
	And I say, sir, you should be in prison because what you just said is unprofessional.
	And we have Americans dead on the streets of America, which means when you're unprofessional and people are dead because of your unprofessionalism, legally, we put doctors and lawyers in jail for that.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		For malpractice.
		So why is it that you think, why is it that you think that the Trump administration is so reluctant to address these threats in the homeland?
		I mean, we're playing FTSE.
		We're playing FTSE with Qatar.
		We're playing FTSE with the Muslim Brotherhood.
		We were promised the designation by the Muslim Brotherhood in the first administration.
		And now we've heard Marco Rubio say it about 10 times.
		And yet, you know, it still hasn't happened.
		I mean, look, I think that we could still possibly see it happen.
		But what I don't understand is how are we actually going to enforce the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization when you have Qatari pilots, right?
		They're going to be trained on U.S. soil.
		Qatar funds the Muslim Brotherhood.
		You have all of these Islamic 501c3s that are tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.
		You have candidates running for office that are taking pledges on paper to the Muslim Brotherhood.
		You have the Dianette Center of America in Maryland, 17 miles away from the White House, where they're literally enforcing Sharia and instructing people on how to abide by Sharia.
		The Dianette, of course, is the branch of the government within Turkey that is responsible for overseeing compliance with Sharia in Turkey.
		We know that that is always overseen by Erdogan, who is the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.
		He already has his Muslim Brotherhood base here in America.
		So is it all for show?
		I mean, I just, I don't know.
		I just, I spend so much time on this.
		You spend so much time and so much effort.
		Is it all for show?
		Or do you think there actually will be enforcement, right?
		Because it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
		It doesn't make sense how they're going to enforce this when they're enabling these people.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So you've, I've got five things.
		I'm going to try and answer these in rapid succession.
		First of all, the members of Congress putting forth these laws to ban Sharia.
		I applaud their efforts and I hope it's successful.
		But we're in a war and wars are not won by legislation and wars are not won by changing policies or fixing issues.
		Wars are won by identifying and vanquishing the enemy.
		That's first part.
		Number two, you asked about, you know, how is it that the Trump administration is missing this and getting it wrong?
		Well, it doesn't help that they have terrorists and jihadis and jihadi sympathizers inside the administration.
		I mean, we could just go, we could walk through that list all day long, but I'll just point out a few.
		Let's start with Mossad Boulos, Tiffany Trump's father-in-law, who's a Hezbollah supporter.
		Let's start with Rick Grinnell, who's the reason we have jihadis and terrorists inside the Trump administration, like Amir Ghalib, who Mr. Trump made the ambassador to Kuwait recommended.
		All those Muslims from Michigan that stood on stage with Mr. Trump, every one of them is a jihadi.
		Thanks to thank Rick Grinnell for that.
		And by the way, when we're talking about Rick Grinnell, I'm just going to drop this big turd in the punch bowl.
		But I know for a fact that he has made calls, Rick Grinnell, to news stations to shut reporters down who are speaking truth about this issue.
		So I don't think Rick Grinnell is misinformed or he's just confused.
		I think he is a bad actor inside the Trump administration.
		There should be a counterintelligence investigation on him.
		There should be a counterintelligence investigation on Masood Bullos and his son to find out what is the true nature of their involvement there.
		But let's move on.
		You've got Chaudhry, Ribul Chowdhury, who's a Hamas official inside the United States inside the Trump administration.
		We've got him right there with Masoud Bullus and Mr. Trump.
		We have him traveling overseas when Mr. Trump traveled overseas.
		We've got him sitting there with Mr. Trump on several occasions.
		So when you ask why they're getting it wrong, here's some of the reasons.
		You've got Randall Todd Royer, a convicted terrorist who did 14 years in prison.
		And by the way, I'm intimately familiar with this case because my squad at the FBI's Washington field office worked this case.
		He went overseas and fought as a Mujahideen in Chechnya, came back, went through a Lashkari-Taiba terrorist training camp, designated terrorist group, Lashkari-Taiba, comes back to Northern Virginia to recruit terrorists to go fight with a designated terrorist Lashkari-Taiba.
		And now Jews and Christians are welcoming him with open arm, including the White House.
		And I ask people, how do you know he's no longer a terrorist?
		And you know what the answer is 100% of the time?
		Because he told me soon.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		He told me so.
		I remember, and I can testify to this because I broke this story.
		I'm the one that broke the story.
		And I remember calling you and it was like midnight.
		And I remember calling you in May, and I was like, oh my God, John, the Trump administration just put this jihadi terrorist on their religious advisory committee.
		And even after I exposed the fact that they put three jihadis on this committee, no action was taken.
		No action was taken.
		They're still there.
		They didn't remove their names.
		And I was told, stop talking about it.
		Stop talking about it.
unidentified		That's what I was told.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Stop talking about it.
		I'm not going to stop talking about it.
		I'm not going to stop talking about it because there have been too many instances of things like this happening.
		You know, they were supposed to have this Hezbollah preacher give an address at the inauguration until I was like, are you aware of the fact that literally I had to call the transition team and tell them that there was a Hezbollah supporter that was set to give an inaugural address in support of the president on inauguration day.
		And then they nixed it.
		They nixed it.
		So where did this guy come from?
		Well, it came from the Muslim coalition for Trump in Michigan.
		So, you know, it's very concerning.
		And I love the president.
		I'm a supporter of the president, but the jihadi infiltration of the Trump administration is a little out of control.
		I will say it has gotten to be out of control.
		And look, they nominated a guy to be ambassador of Kuwait who is a jihadi who openly talks about how he hates Jews, how he wants to see Israel wiped off the map.
		Apparently, he lied about his medical credentials as well in terms of where he went to school.
		So there's a lot of really nefarious activity there.
		They are hanging out with the mayors of Hamtramick and Dearborn, who are literally on video as of a couple of weeks ago, telling Christians who said, you know, I really don't like the fact that our city is naming streets after Hezbollah terrorists that they should leave because Christians aren't welcome in Dearborn.
		I mean, these are people that are being given access to the White House and they're being given access to the Trump administration.
		And it's a big problem.
		It's a really big problem.
		And I don't know who's responsible for this.
		You name some names.
		You have your theory.
		I don't know who's responsible for it, but I do know that at the end of the day, it's Trump's administration.
		And, you know, Marco Rubio needs to start cracking down on this because if we don't designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, excuse me, and actually enforce it and start taking away the 501c3 statuses of these Islamic jihadist groups, we are going to become a Muslim country.
		It is not a conspiracy theory.
		We are going to turn into Europe.
		President Trump just addressed the United Nations and he said, your countries are shitholes.
		Islamic immigration turned your countries into shitholes.
		You now have Sharia law.
		Well, we have Sharia law here too, Mr. President.
		We have Sharia law here in places like Texas.
		It is not a coincidence that senators in Alabama, Senator Tubberville, and Representatives Randy Fine and then out of Florida and Chip Roy out of Texas.
		These are Republican states.
		They are now having to draft legislation to combat Sharia law.
		So imagine just how bad it is in blue states if the representatives in red states are having to create legislation to combat Sharia law.
		I mean, we could be here all night talking about this.
		You have a tremendous course.
		You have so much information on your own website.
		I know the previous interview ran a little late, but I want to ask you one last question before you go.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Can I interject one second?
		Yes.
		What you just said was a great summary.
		And I want to make this point for your audience.
		When you've got to look at these current events, the Trump administration bringing in an al-Qaeda terrorist who killed American troops and honestly fawned all over him because he's now the president of Syria,
		doing these deals like you're talking about with Qatar to have a training base in Idaho, providing military equipment to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey, three of the four leading state sponsors of terrorism on the planet besides Iran.
		When they see jihadis inside the White House, you have to look at it from their point of view.
		And what is their point of view?
		Sharia.
		And what does Sharia say when an adversary like America submits, demonstrates weakness, and gives you what you want?
		Sharia requires the Muslim community to be more barbaric, more aggressive, and more brutal.
		We currently have, as I reported and you noted on this, in September, communist and jihadi organizations in the United States held conferences many days throughout September around the country.
		And the topic of discussion was how and when to go kinetic on a national scale.
		At the same time, we have these threats, these confirmed threats from al-Qaeda on a massive scale where they have at least a thousand.
		Now, I'm not saying there are only a thousand al-Qaeda soldiers in the United States.
		I'm saying for this operation, they trained and brought in at least a thousand soldiers to conduct operations in multiple states on soft targets.
		And we are still talking about this as if we can coax and coerce and convince them not to kill us.
		The level of insanity among our leaders that we are allowed, we the citizens are allowing.
		We keep hoping that it's just going to magically get better.
		And it will not.
		So I'll allow you the last question and then I'll give my part and depart.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		We saw when President Trump had his trip to the Middle East and he announced these, you know, massive, massive investment deals with Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar.
		They were described over, you know, they were described in terms of 10-year increments, right?
		10-year deals.
		And the number 10 comes up a lot when you're dealing with Islam and you're dealing with peace deals, treaties, agreements, whatever it may be, whether it be these investment deals that President Trump secured when he was with Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar.
		And, you know, my thinking when I'm watching President Trump announce these deals is, well, how are they actually going to enforce these deals over 10 years if President Trump is only going to be in office for another three and a half years?
		Like, how are they actually going to enforce that the rest of these deals and the duration of these deals is fully completed over this 10-year process when President Trump's term is only four more years, right?
		And now, of course, we're nine months in and we have three and a half years.
		Then we get to this deal between Israel and Hamas, another 10-year deal.
		And this peace plan that was announced in Egypt over the weekend, where you had leaders from all over the Middle East, leaders from all over the world, talk about this peace plan, which is supposed to take place, right?
		These points that are listed out in President Trump's 20-point plan over a 10-year period.
		Now, from taking your course, Train the Trainer, which I highly recommend everybody do.
		It's a phenomenal course.
		You want to get counterterrorism training.
		I've taken it, what, three times now, John?
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		At least twice.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		We talk about, and there's an entire section in the course of this training program about the significance of 10-year deals under Islam.
		And it all goes back to the Treaty of Hudabiyah and this concept of Muslims allowing themselves to become stronger and to build a more savage and more brutal army, right?
		Or a more forceful base of support over a 10-year period, because that is what Muhammad did.
		If you could please explain the significance of these 10-year deals and why these deals are always done in 10-year increments, because I think this is going completely over the head of the Trump administration.
		Obviously, President Trump is a very smart man.
		He's a great negotiator.
		He's a great deal maker.
		But I wonder if the Trump administration is aware of the sinister nature of these deals that are being made in the way that there's this Islamic manipulation in the timeframe in which these deals have been constructed.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		This is a great question.
		So in 628, the treaty of Hudabiyah was made.
		And I think it's important to explain this.
		It was made by Muhammad himself.
		So again, it's good for all Muslims for all times.
		It's part of the Sharia because it's part of the example of Muhammad.
		First of all, I go back to what does Islam say the purpose of Islam is to wage jihad, to wage war against non-Muslims until a global Islamic state is established under Sharia.
		That's it.
		So treaties can only be entered into if it benefits Islam because it's a grave matter because you're ceasing the jihad.
		Now, I just happen to have a book of Islamic law right here.
		This is the Umdad al-Salikh.
		It's the most widely used book of tabletop law in North America.
		And like most books of Islamic law, it's published in English because the biggest Muslim countries on earth, many of them were former British colonies.
		So the legal language is English.
		But this one happens to be published in Belchville, Maryland, and it has the imprimatur in the front of Al-Azhar, which is the oldest and most prestigious school of Islamic jurisprudence on the planet.
		And if we turn to Book O Justice, chapter 9, 12, it says, when made, other than a portion of the non-Muslims or when made with all of them, right, the caliph or his representative may affect a treaty, right?
		A truce, which is permissible, not obligatory, for it is a matter of the gravest consequence because it entails the non-performance of jihad.
		There must be some interest served in making a truce other than mere preservation of the status quo.
		And it quotes the Quran, do not be faint-hearted and call for peace when it is you who are in the uppermost.
		Meaning if the jihadis, the Muslims, have the upper hand, they cannot call for a truce.
		But when they're getting their ass kicked, like they are by Israel, Hamas, for instance, they can then call for a truce.
		Why?
		Well, it says right here, interests that justify making a truce are such things as Muslim weakness because of lack of numbers or materials or hope of an enemy becoming Muslim.
		So these truces are 10 years.
		Why?
		Because the treaty of Hudabiyah was 10 years.
		And they can only do it to grave concern because you're stopping the jihad.
		But when you're getting your ass kicked.
		So what we used to advise 15 plus years ago when I was briefing both in the FBI and at the DOD, three and four-star generals who sadly didn't heed this, but some of the ground commanders, captains and guys at that level did actually heed this warning is, so if the Muslims say, hey, we'd like to call a truce, you say, sure, we'll call a truce for what, a week?
		And then an hour later, you give them everything you got and you kill and obliterate every single one of them.
		That's how you deal with a Muslim enemy.
		So again, how do you understand the Islamic threat?
		Through the lens of Sharia.
		What is their defeat mechanism?
		Jihad is required when they have the ability and the material resources to wage jihad.
		As I just read in Book O Justice, they cannot call for a truce if they have the upper hand.
		When they call for a truce, they're telling you they are in a position of weakness.
		And what we should do is we should kill every last Hamas member right now.
		We should destroy every leader in this movement.
		And I'll leave you with your audience with this thought.
		Name one national Islamic organization in the United States that is not hostile.
		I have for the last five years been offering $1,000 to anyone that can do that.
		And there have only been two people in the last five years that tried.
		And then I showed them that those two organizations were in fact hostile.
		And they shrugged their shoulders.
		We're like, well, okay, because they actually understood that the rest of them were.
		So there you have it.
		We are getting it handed to us.
		We're on the brink of an imminent national al-Qaeda attack.
		We have the enemy, not only the Islamic enemy, but they are operating seamlessly across the country at the local level with the U.S. communist movement.
		We've got Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood organizations working with the communists at the ground level.
		And it is a complete goat rope.
		And you have leaders at the state and federal level who do not even understand we're in a real war.
		Hostile foreign powers, Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, UAE, Egypt, Venezuela, China, working together with these networks of thousands of organizations as their proxies, waging war against us.
		And we're still treating this as a legal matter.
		And that's why we're losing.
		They see we're losing.
		And we're going to lose, as you said earlier, if we do not turn the tide.
		And that's why the work I do is training local communities to identify and flush these hostile networks out of their communities.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really important work.
		Sometimes I wonder if we're just too infiltrated because I don't see how they can maintain their relationships with all of these world leaders who they're going around saying are so wonderful and then also dismantle these Islamic networks in the United States at the same time.
		It just seems like we've already been conquered.
		I hate to say it, but after President Trump leaves office, I don't really see how our country is going to survive the imminent Islamic takeover of America unless they really do start to crack down and one, designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, but also two, mass deport all of these jihadis.
		And then three, shut them down at the IRS and prevent them from being able to have this tax-deductible IRS status.
		So we're literally allowing for Islamic terrorists to have a tax-exempt status at the IRS.
		Meanwhile, Obama's administration took that status away from tons of conservative organizations.
		But it's scary.
		It's really scary that our own military generals don't even understand this whole concept of the treaty of Hudabiyah.
		And essentially, these peace deals that were just signed and all of these 10-year plans were signals to the Islamic world, like, hey, we're going to give you 10 years to rebuild so you can attack us.
		That's right.
		That's what everybody watching needs to take away from it.
		And no, this is not a conspiracy theory.
		This comes from their own Islamic text.
		And no, there is no interpretation.
		I'm sick and tired of, you know, your typical naive American that's like, well, you know, I know a Muslim and they're a great person.
		And well, you know, it's all about interpretation and they don't believe this.
		It's not up for you to decide what the interpretation is because, well, they already have.
		They have the Al-Al-Azhar school.
unidentified		Okay.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		They have Al-Al-Azhar that legally decides.
		It's like the Harvard of the Islamic world, as you know, as we learned about in your course as well, in which all of this is legally defined.
		John is not joking.
		He's not making this up when he says it's all legally defined.
		They have Islamic scholars that sit there and they have textbook legal codes and definitions for every single verse in the Quran.
		So no, it's not up for your everyday Muslim to interpret or decide what this is.
		Try going to any Muslim-majority country and saying that and your head will be chopped off.
		Reforming Islam, interpreting Islam is considered apostasy and it is punishable by death in Islam.
		So, John, I know you've been very generous with your time and we were a bit delayed for the interview, but I want to thank you for the work that you're doing.
		And I hope that everybody will start to take this threat seriously.
		Personally, I think that the Islamification of America needs to be one of the top, if not the top issue for the 2026 midterm elections.
		I mean, I know everyone's going to be focused on the economy as well.
		But if we don't get control over the Islamification of America, we will become Europe.
		We will turn into London.
		And yes, we can turn into London under a Trump administration.
		Things are that bad that we can become a Muslim country under the Trump administration.
		I'm not saying President Trump's a bad president, but just look at every single Islamic conquest throughout civilization and throughout history.
		It didn't matter how powerful or charismatic the leader of a country was.
		Muslims have always been successful in conquering and toppling civilizations and societies while they are in the extreme minority.
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And I'll just leave your viewers with this.
		I just had the What Islam's All About.
		Again, that's the most widely used textbook for 11-year-olds in U.S. Islamic schools.
		And it says the three duties in Islam.
		And one of the three duties is jihad.
		And on the next page, there's a picture of a tank in case the little children are confused about what jihad is.
		And then it says, if you die in jihad, you automatically go to paradise.
		And lastly, the quote that says the duty of Muslim citizens is to be loyal to the Islamic State.
		This is what it is until we recognize we are in a real war and we are losing badly.
		They're in the final stage and our leaders haven't even recognized it for what it is.
		And so you are correct.
		The reality that we could lose this war and lose everything in a very short amount of time is a real concern.
		And I believe governors have shown over the last 20 years they don't want to address it.
		They aren't going to fix it.
		Six different administrations have demonstrated they're incapable.
		This is up to the citizen to focus on their county and get the communists and jihadis and those supporting them, flush them out of your county and reestablish the founding principles at the county level.
		This is where we're going to win the war until a day when we get a leader that's actually going to address it, which we haven't had in the last 33 years.
		So I'm not holding my breath that the cavalry's coming.
		I don't believe there's any cavalry coming.
		American citizens are going to have to do this or it's not getting done.
		Thank you, Laura, for all you're doing and speaking truth.
		Thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak and share.
		Appreciate it.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Where do people follow you if they want to go to your website and read your materials and read all about your work, which you're doing incredible work every single day to save America from an Islamic takeover?
john guandolo ▲ ● ▼		So johngwandolo.com.
		You can get our video series.
		It's all about Sharia.
		The books that I've written there.
		You can get a lot of free resources as well.
		And of course, information on the Intel Action Training, which is the training that literally trains citizens how to do that, how to identify these threats and flush them out of your local county.
		And we need to do this as quick as possible.
		And I'm also on Twitter if you want kind of the daily updates.
		That's what I recommend people.
		Jay Guandolo 54271.
		Jay Guandolo 54271 on Twitter.
		And thanks again, Laura.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Thanks so much, John.
unidentified		Appreciate it.
		You're welcome.
		This is real, guys.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		This is happening here on U.S. soil.
		And they're now actually paying influencers.
		Can you believe this?
		They're paying influencers to promote Sharia law.
		Let's go ahead and play this clip.
		It's mind-blowing.
		It's absolutely mind-blowing.
		You have to see it to believe it.
unidentified		Muslims want to bring Shia law to the United States.
		Do you even know what Sharia law is?
		I do.
		Let's take a look.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Feeding the poll.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's Sharia.
unidentified		Owning women as sexual property.
unidentified		That's Sharia.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Smiling at someone.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's Sharia.
unidentified		Jihadism and fighting non-Muslims.
		That's Sharia.
		Being kind to your neighbor.
		Unaliving homosexuals.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Education for every child.
unidentified		Women being worth half as much as a man.
		Women's right to work.
		Women's right to be beaten by their husbands and to be forsaken in bed.
		Marriage must be between two consenting adults.
		Unless, of course, it's your prophet Muhammad.
		Police be upon him because he married a six-year-old.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Work is right to fair pay.
unidentified		Unless, of course, you aren't a Muslim, because then you will be taxed into poverty.
		The current court system is derived from Sharia.
		No, it's not.
		It's derived from the Roman court system, which came hundreds of years before.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Democracy is Sharia.
unidentified		No, it actually came from Democritus, a Greek philosopher who came 1,000 years before.
unidentified		Democracy, Democritus, see how we got that name.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Hospitals have been built on Sharia Lul.
unidentified		Okay, but the Catholic Church has built way more hospitals, and St. Basil the Great is often credited as building the first hospital.
unidentified		So why on earth would we choose Sharia law over Christianity?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		We're already living under Sharia Lul.
unidentified		No, we are not because our women are allowed to go outside without covering themselves head to toe.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		So what exactly are you fearing?
unidentified		Hmm.
		Let's see.
		Sharia law and the loss of Western culture.
		By the way, Muhammad is now the most common boy's name in England and Wales.
		God bless.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's our reality.
		Let's go ahead and get some of these articles up on the screen.
		I talked to John Guandola about it in that interview you just watched, but in case you haven't seen, there are various lawmakers across our country right now who have created legislation to ban Sharia law.
		You have Chip Roy out of Texas.
		You had Governor Ron DeSantis say that if the Florida legislature were to actually create a bill, he would sign it into law.
		Here we go.
		Incompatible etiology.
		Representative Chip Roy's bill aims to protect the United States from illegals who observe Sharia law.
		Go through this right here.
		Scroll down.
		The legislation called Preserving a Sharia-Free America Act would bar foreign nationals who observe Sharia law from entering or remaining in the United States as a way to tighten security and protect the nation's values, Roy's office said in a press release.
		In a statement, Roy said Sharia law spelled the erosion of the West.
		He said, America is facing an existential threat, the spread of Sharia law from Texas to every state in the Union.
		Instances of Sharia law adherents have threatened the American way of life, seeking to replace our legal system and constitution with an incompatible ideology that diminishes the rights of women, children, and individuals of different faiths.
		He goes on to say that Europe should be a wake-up call.
		We also have a video of Senator Tommy Tuberville.
		He gave an address.
		He gave an address on the floor of the Senate.
		He's running for governor of Alabama.
		And I think it's important for people to watch his video here for this legislation called Ban Sharia Law.
		I mean, look, Chip Roy is from Texas, okay?
		Tommy Tuberville is from Alabama.
		Ron DeSantis is Florida.
		What do all these states have in common?
		They're red states.
		Why are red state representatives creating legislation to ban Sharia law?
		Because Islam is becoming a problem in red states.
		So just imagine.
		We already know.
		We don't even need to imagine how bad it is in blue states because just take a look at what's happening in New York City right now.
		In three weeks, we're going to have a Muslim communist mayor named Zoran Mamdami, Zoran Mamdami, who just the other day was at a 5K race raising money for UNRWA, you know, the organization tied to Hamas that President Trump said he wanted to completely defund.
		Let's go ahead and play the clip.
unidentified		The truth is that radical Islamic extremists want every single freedom-loving American dead.
		Bottom line.
		They have proven over and over again that they're willing to do whatever it takes to kill just one American citizen, whatever it takes.
		And it just isn't happening overseas.
		It has been allowed to fester and is alive and well in our very own country, just waiting for the right opportunity to attack.
		It's coming.
		You also won't hear from Democrats about how radical Islamic terrorists are currently carrying out a mass genocide of Christians in Nigeria.
		Think about this.
		More than 62,000 Christians have been slaughtered since 2000 by radical Islamic terrorists in Nigeria.
		You heard that right.
		62,000.
		And just this year alone, more than 7,000 Nigerian Christians have been murdered because of their faith alone.
		You can't turn on the TV without hearing about Israel's so-called mass genocide of Palestinians every day.
		And yet, when it comes to 62,000 Christians being slaughtered by radical Muslims, it's radio silence.
		This extreme ideology is straight from the pit of hell, and it has no place in American society.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Let's go ahead and play flip number 47.
unidentified		you Thank you.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's so many people across our country talking about Sharia law, and the mainstream media doesn't even want to address this.
		So, we have a lot of people that are now starting to address Sharia law.
		Here's Keith Self's video about supporting the Preserving a Sharia-Free America Act.
		I mean, you have a lot of representatives, and yet, you know, my question is, is how come the Trump administration isn't having conversations with these lawmakers about Sharia?
		I love President Trump.
		I support President Trump.
		But, you know, if you have Trump supporters like Tommy Tuberville who are feeling compelled enough to create legislation to ban Sharia law, like you would think that the White House would be calling these representatives and saying, hey, you know, we want to have a conversation with you about why you felt compelled to do this and probably have a greater conversation or maybe even a panel discussion at the White House, just like they had about Antifa regarding the threat of Islam in America.
		We just had a panel where they invited all these independent journalist types to come have a discussion about political violence in Antifa.
		Well, when are we going to have a panel discussion and a roundtable about the Muslim Brotherhood and the threat of Islam on U.S. soil?
		Let's go ahead and play this clip.
unidentified		The American way of life is under siege by radicals from a culture that is waging war against our constitution and Western values from Texas to Michigan and across the Union.
		Sharia is being thrust on the American people.
		This stops now.
		We cannot allow this ideology, which diminishes the rule of law and the rights of women and children to exist in America.
		I am joining Congressman Chip Roy to introduce the Preserving a Sharia Free America Act.
		This bill stops foreign nationals who observe Sharia from entering or residing in our country.
		We need to ensure that this radical ideology, which is overpowering the UK and France, does not prevail in the United States.
		This bill protects America from Sharia, which is intent on conquering the U.S. and dominating civilization.
		I am Congressman Keith Self, and I am fighting to preserve our constitutional republic.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Again, how come you don't see any mainstream media coverage of this proposed legislation?
		How come you're not seeing more Republicans talk about it?
		Let's go ahead and play clip number five.
		This is one of Amy Mech's videos about the citizens standing up to Sharia law in Dearborn.
		It's about a six-minute video, but people will say, oh, there's no Sharia law here in America.
		There's no Sharia law.
		No, there is Sharia law.
		There 100% is Sharia law here in America.
		Go to Dearborn.
		Go to Minnesota.
		We're going to play some clips from Minnesota as well, where they're chanting Allahu Akbar.
		And they're saying that their duty is to Somalia and their duty is to Islam, not to the people of Minnesota or Minneapolis, but to Islam, to Sharia.
		You have the governors of Texas, the governors of Florida, the candidate for governor in Alabama talking about the need to create legislation.
		You know, we have a huge problem in this country and it needs to be addressed.
		It needs to be addressed before we turn into Europe.
		And look, you know, the president obviously wants to be diplomatic.
		The president obviously wanted to secure the release of the hostages.
		So maybe, just maybe they have a plan.
		But I don't really see how, you know, you can be praising Erdogan and talking about how great all these people are and then also crack down on the Muslim Brotherhood because there's got to be some accountability.
		If Erdogan's so great, but we're also going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood, then we got to get rid of his Sharia facility in Maryland, the Dianette.
		So all these, all these Muslims in the Michigan coalition for President Trump as well, they're all tied to 501c3 organizations that were found to be supporting terrorism during the Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial.
		Are we going to lock these people up or they get an excuse because they voted for Trump?
		You see, we have a lot of issues here that have been created by these coalitions that were created in 2024.
		So look, a jihadi in a suit who says that they're going to vote for Trump is still a jihadi at the end of the day.
		I hate to say it.
		And it's not like these people voted for Trump because they actually like Trump.
		They voted for Trump because they're single-issue voters and they cared about Gaza and they wanted President Trump to end the war in Gaza.
		They don't care about any other aspects of the Trump administration or any of other any of the other policies promoted by President Trump.
		No, they were single issue voters and they didn't like the way that the Democrats were handling the war and the war erupted under Biden's administration.
		And so naturally, they oppose Joe Biden.
		They called him Genocide Joe.
		They called him Genocide Joe.
		But it doesn't mean that we should be held hostage by these people.
		Let's go ahead and play clip number five.
unidentified		Good evening.
		I'm Donna, and tonight on Rare TV, unsung American heroes of Dearborn are speaking up against the Islamic takeover of their city.
		A shocking moment from a September 9th Dearborn City Council meeting has gone viral when Pastor Ted Barham was smeared as an Islamophobe and told to leave the city by Dearborn's militant Muslim mayor, Abdullah Hussein Hamoud.
		I mean, Hezbollah, you know, bombed the embassy in Beirut, including many Americans.
		So I just feel it's quite inappropriate.
		You are an Islamophobe.
		And although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you are not welcome here.
		And the day you move out of the city will be the day that I launch a parade celebrating the fact that you moved out of the city because you are not somebody who believes in coexistence.
		America watched in disbelief as Mayor Hamoud, who claims to represent all residents, revealed his contempt for one of Dearborn's Christian leaders.
		His message was clear.
		Pastor Barham was not welcome in what has quickly become one of America's most radicalized Islamic-controlled cities.
		But something beautiful happened after that verbal assault.
		Pastor Barham's courage sparked a movement.
		His stand ignited the people of Dearborn to rise up and defend him, their rights, and their city.
		At each subsequent city council meeting, more residents showed up, refusing to be silenced.
		Even at the most recent meeting in October, new faces took the mic, bold, unapologetic, and determined to reclaim their city.
		Among them, young patriots from Turning Point USA.
		Noah Mullins, Turning Point Chapter President at Grand Valley State University, called out Dearborn's leadership, exposing how the city honored Osama Siblani, a known terrorist sympathizer, with a street sign.
		He demanded the enforcement of noise ordinances as mosques blast the Islamic call to prayer at 5.30 a.m. and vowed to fight at all costs for the future of this country.
		I traveled home tonight to speak with you because of how disturbed I am by recent events in this city.
		On September 8th, 2025, leaders of this city made their allegiance clear.
		Osama Sablani is a terrorist sympathizer.
		Full stop.
		I speak on behalf of Americans everywhere when I say that renaming the corner of Warren Avenue in Chase to honor this individual stands against everything this great country represents.
		Americans do not stand by silently when Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists slaughter innocent men, women, and children.
		Neither does Mr. Sablani.
		But instead of denouncing these terrorist organizations like Americans should, he describes Hamas as freedom fighters and describes the former leader of Hezbollah as a hero.
		I was born in this city and I no longer recognize my beloved Dearborn.
		On September 9th, Mayor Hamoud decided to add insult to injury and rebuke a Dearborn resident who brought to light this very issue.
		Mayor, know that your rebuke of me will fail to make me yield and that you have revealed your true nature to all of us.
		As if these two events weren't enough, the city has also decided to not enforce their own noise ordinances by allowing the Islamic call to prayer from local mosques at times as early as 5.30 a.m.
		Men and women across America are waking up to the state of our city and all eyes are on Dearborn.
		I'm a 22-year-old man, but I am willing to give all of myself and even my life to the defense of my land, my people, my Lord, and my future wife and children.
		Then came Ryan Warzniak, another turning point member, who warned what happens when nations suppress free speech.
		He said branding criticism as hate is the first step towards tyranny.
		And he's right.
		The mayor has previously scolded concerned residents and told them to leave the city while in the same breath implying that he is the arbiter of peaceful coexistence.
		I understand that he identifies very passionately with the culture of the land he descends from, but he is not there.
		America became the country all of our ancestors chose to leave their home cultures for because we Americans did not just peacefully coexist, but because we assimilated and became one.
		Decrying any criticism towards your choices as hateful is not only counterproductive, but entirely wrong.
		Americans quarrel with words, so we do not need to resort to violence because we care enough about our neighbors to give peace a chance.
		By deflecting any criticism of your choices using meaningless buzzwords like Islamophobia, it robs us all of the opportunity to peacefully change the other's mind.
		If the broader Muslim population in America does not start to act like Americans, not just Muslims in America, our children will shed blood because the egos of Islamic leaders like Mayor Hamoud are so large they refuse to consider that they can possibly be wrong.
		These young men are walking in Charlie Kirk's footsteps, refusing to back down for truth and standing up for America.
		And somewhere, Charlie is smiling, knowing his courage lit a fire that cannot be put out.
		Beer Hamoud's arrogance should shock no one.
		Dearborn is roughly 60% Muslim, and nearly all of the city's top positions are held by Muslims.
		Mayor Abdullah Hamoud, his rival, Nagi Al-Moudhegi, police chief, Isa Shaheen, Patrol Commander, Majou Bazi, Public Health Director, Ali Abazid, Chief of Staff, Zanee Hussain, and Council members, Kamal al-Sawafi and Mustafa Hamoud.
		With this unprecedented religious monopoly, the mayor no longer hides his disdain for Dearborn's remaining minorities, now mostly white, Christian, and non-Muslim Americans.
		What's happening in Dearborn is not unique.
		It's a warning.
		If Americans don't get involved at the local level, at your city councils, your school boards, your zoning meetings, this will become the story of your town, your county, and eventually your nation.
		Dearborn's patriots are proving what happens when people refuse to back down.
		So tonight, we honor the citizens of Dearborn who refuse to be silent.
		The question for every viewer is simple: Will you show up?
		Will you speak out?
		Will you defend American values in your city before it's too late?
		Because saving our nation starts right here at home.
		There's an example for you right there.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		So I don't want to hear anybody talk about how we don't have Sharia law in our country.
		Charlie Kirk knew this as well.
		Today is his 32nd birthday.
		So happy birthday to Charlie Kirk.
		Had a ceremony at the White House today where President Trump actually awarded Charlie Kirk posthumously, of course, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and his wife Erica Kirk was there to accept it.
		But Charlie spoke about this a lot about the threat of Islam and Sharia law and how we need to save the West from Islamification.
		So people better wake up.
		People better wake up.
		And you can, you know, you can be proud of President Trump and the peace deal that he secured.
		I call it a ceasefire deal more than a peace deal because I don't really know how we can have peace with people who practice an ideology that wants to kill us.
		Although President Trump was successful in, you know, getting the killing to stop.
		That being said, we do need this administration to take more action against the infiltration of our country by the Muslim Brotherhood and these foreign Islamic entities that are now trying to disparage Christian populations, silence Christians, and silence Jews on U.S. soil, and have a religious monopoly, as you saw in Dearborn.
		I mean, the entire city council is completely controlled by Muslims.
		Where do you draw the line?
		We're going to have a lot more to say on this, I'm sure, in future episodes of Loomer Unleashed because the Islamification of our country is not stopping anytime soon.
		Go ahead and put your comments and your questions in the chat.
		We'll take a few questions before we close out tonight.
		before we do that, I want to take a moment to thank the sponsor of tonight's episode of Loomer Unleashed, Kirk Elliott Precious Metals.
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		I mean, she's a little bit of a stink.
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		So it's great to hedge your bets against the declining dollar by investing in gold and silver.
		I don't really think that the dollar is going to be supreme for eternity.
		We have President Trump now.
		Who knows what's going to happen 3.5 years from now?
		We're in a recovering economy.
		President Trump is doing the best he can to try to fix our broken economy from four years of the disastrous Biden regime.
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		We have a question from a Muslim viewer.
		HM Swedan.
		Sorry if I mispronounced your name.
		Laura, I'm a Muslim.
		Thank you for opening your mind and watching my show tonight.
		I know that I get branded as a Muslim hater, although I'm not.
		So I appreciate you listening to my show.
		I listened to you the whole 2.5 hours of the show.
		I have one question.
		Will you go to Dearborn?
		Yes, I've actually been to Dearborn.
		I went to Dearborn in 2018 and I reported and they were incredibly hostile to me.
		And they actually released a statement on their social media saying that I was not welcome there.
		They said I was not welcome in Dearborn because I was reporting on the Islamification and they said that I was not welcome.
		You can look it up.
		There's reports about this.
		This is what happened when I went to Minnesota as well.
		The Secretary of State said I wasn't welcome there.
		So they probably have since deleted their Twitter.
		This was back in the day before I got banned on Twitter.
		And I went to Michigan to report on Abdul Al-Syed.
		He is a Muslim.
		He's a Muslim Brotherhood supporter, actually.
		And I'm not just saying that.
		I have the documentation and the proof that shows that he actually signed a pledge in a time when he was studying.
		He was a student during the Arab Spring in Egypt, if you recall the Muslim Brotherhood takeover and all of the Muslim Brotherhood unrest during the Obama administration.
		And Abdul Al-Syed signed a pledge to Muhammad Morsi, who was the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.
		And he was ousted eventually because the people did not want to be ruled by a terrorist.
		They didn't want to be ruled under Muslim Brotherhood occupation.
		So I know what it's like to go to Dearborn.
		And here in America, I'm trying to raise awareness about Muslims who refuse to assimilate.
		And, you know, I had a Muslim coalition when I ran for Congress, believe it or not, Muslim coalition.
		A wonderful woman, actually, Nahid and her daughter, really great people, wonderful Muslims, probably the best Muslims I've ever met, honestly, living in Boca.
	They supported my campaign and I met with them because they had, you know, views about me and they had been told nasty things about me when I was running for Congress.
	And they came to really like me and support me.
	And we developed a beautiful friendship.
	But what I love the most about Nahid is that she's a real American.
	She's a real patriot.
	You know, she came here from Pakistan.
	Just giving you an example, real life example of Muslims who support me because there are Muslims who support me.
	You don't ever hear her talk about her Pakistani heritage or her Muslim heritage, right?
	You hear her talk about how proud she is to be an American.
	You go to her diner, a really great diner that she has in Boca Raton, where she serves all types of breakfast food, right?
	They're not like having halal products banned, right?
	You could go there and you could order eggs and bacon if you wanted.
	A restaurant owned by a Muslim woman.
	So why do I bring this up?
	Because it's an example of a Muslim who assimilated, was proud to be an American, waved the American flag in her business, wave the, has a sign on her window that says you must speak English when you come to this country.
	So again, I know not all Muslims are the same, but most Muslims in this country are not assimilating.
	It's just a fact.
	They're not assimilating.
	They try to move to these enclaves and places like Minneapolis and Dearborn and Hamtramick, and they are imposing their culture on us.
	They are imposing their way of life instead of embracing the American way of life.
	What you witnessed in Dearborn at the city council was totally unacceptable.
	But look, there are Muslims who supported me and Muslims who I like very much.
	One of my closest friends is from Iran.
	They are not a Muslim anymore.
	They left Islam and their family is atheist and they themselves are a Christian convert.
	But they left.
	They didn't want to be a Muslim.
	It was forced upon them in Iran.
	And now their family is atheist and they're a Christian.
	One of my great friends, Reza.
	So there are Muslim people who I like very much and I get along with, but the reality is, and Muslims living here are not living in reality.
	You're not living in reality here in America.
	You're just not.
	You may think you are, but you and I both know that if you were to go to a Muslim country and you were to advocate for Islamic reform, you would be killed.
	You would be killed.
	And if you say otherwise, you're a liar.
	You would be killed.
	It's called apostasy.
	It's punishable by death.
	They have Sharia.
	So we just can't allow for that to happen.
	You want to come here?
	You're Muslim.
	You're born here.
	You're Muslim.
	Assimilate.
	That's all I'm asking for.
	I'm not calling for, I'm not calling for a crusade.
	Okay.
	I'm not calling for a witch hunt of every single Muslim in America.
	But every single Muslim organization is hostile.
	It is true.
	I have yet to see a Muslim organization that is hostile.
	And the Muslims who supported me when I ran for Congress had the same thing.
	They said they don't want to go to these Muslim organizations because they're all leftists.
	They're anti-Trump.
	They promote jihadis and they promote Sharia law.
	So if you are a moderate or a reformed Muslim in your mind, who are you supposed to look to as your leader?
unidentified		Who?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Show me an Islamic Reformation movement that has gone mainstream.
		You can't because it doesn't exist.
		So hopefully I answered your question.
		I don't hate Muslim people.
		You know, you're saying that hopefully that I can count you as one of your friends.
		Yeah, I'd love to meet more Muslims who actually want to support a reformation movement.
		The problem is, is that there's 2 billion Muslims on this planet.
		Okay.
		Most of these Muslims live outside of the United States in Muslim-majority countries.
		Okay.
		There's 56, 56 of these countries, as John was explaining, as I've explained.
		How come these Muslim leaders haven't had a summit to decide how they can reform Islam?
		I mean, look at Judaism, look at Christianity.
		Every single religion has aspects that can be viewed as extreme.
		If you read a religious text, you can find examples of extremism in every single religious text, okay?
		Every single one of them.
		But there's no denying that Judaism and Christianity have reformed themselves to modern times.
		The only religion that has not reformed itself to modern society and modern social norms is Islam.
unidentified		It's just true.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		It's a fact.
		So I think that I would probably feel a little bit more at ease if they said, you know, it's barbaric to call for the murder of non-Muslims.
		Our book calls for the death of non-Muslims.
		We would like to coexist with Jews and Christians of the world.
		And so we would like the leaders of these Islamic nations to get rid of Sharia law.
		And we would like to welcome Christians and Jews.
		We want to erect a church.
		We want to erect a synagogue.
		And we are going to welcome religious freedom and coexistence.
		The only country I can actually think of that actually does this in the Middle East is the United Arab Emirates.
		They're the only one.
		I can't think of any others.
		Honestly, I cannot think of any other Muslim countries that allow for Jews to have a synagogue and allow for Christian Savage Church.
		I cannot think of a single other Muslim country that has the religious tolerance that they demand of us when they come to our country.
unidentified		So do I hate Muslims?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Do I hate Islam?
		Absolutely.
		Because I'm not going to like or promote or accept an ideology that calls for me to be killed because of who I am.
		I'm tolerant towards people.
		I don't call for Muslims to be killed.
		Of course, I want terrorists to be killed.
		But choosing to be a jihadi is a choice.
		But the unfortunate reality of Islam today is that if you are a devout Muslim and you practice Islam in its truest form, you have to live your life according to the way Muhammad would live his life.
		Muhammad was a pedophile.
		Okay.
		Whether that's offensive to you or not, it is a fact that marrying a six-year-old is pedophilia.
		You may say, oh, well, you're calling all Muslims pedophiles.
		Well, what do we call in our modern society today?
		What do we call child marriage?
		What do we call sexual intercourse with a child?
		It's called pedophilia.
		So, you know, Muslims will hear this and they will say, you're an Islamophobe, you hate Muslims, you're a bigot.
		You know, I'm not, I'm not hateful towards Muslim people, but we need to have a conversation about the CDology.
		We really do.
		And you can't be coming to our country and forcing your way of life upon us.
		This is not a Muslim country.
		Okay.
		I'm Jewish.
		I'm not even that religious, but this is a Christian country.
		Yeah, there's Judeo-Christian values, but this is a Christian country.
		So you have to respect, you have to respect the values of the country that you're living in and the country that you come to.
		Personally, I think we need to have an immigration moratorium altogether.
		But we're not going to change the fact that we have Muslims in this country.
		You can't just deport all Muslims.
		It would be great if we could deport every single immigrant Muslim in this country.
		I would support it personally.
		I think that they should live their life in their own countries.
		But if you are a Muslim citizen and you live here or you became a citizen, well, you're a citizen, right?
		You're going to live here now.
		You have to assimilate.
		You need to learn our language.
		You need to learn our way of life.
		You need to take the burqa off.
		You need to take the hijab off.
		I mean, we're pretty gracious here in the United States compared to other countries.
		In France, they ban it.
		You are not allowed to wear the hijab or the burqa in France.
		I personally think that we should also have a burqa and a hijab ban here and a niqab ban.
		But again, it's about assimilation.
		You wouldn't have people up in arms about Islam in America if the Islamic movement would come together and pledge all 2 billion of them with the leaders, right?
		The emir, the emirs, the sultans, right?
		The kings, the crown princes.
		Get all these Muslim leaders to come together to have a summit to admit that their ideology has been barbaric and it does not conform to modern Western norms.
		Do that.
		And I'll gladly associate with Muslims.
unidentified		I will.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I just want to see some effort to reform the movement.
		That's all.
		I don't think that that's unrealistic.
		I don't think that's hateful.
		Let's scroll up because I really do want to see his comments.
		I see that he's responding to me in real time.
		And it's great that we're having this conversation.
		He said, I don't need to advocate for reform anywhere else.
		I'm an American.
		Thank you for answering my question.
unidentified		Okay.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you may not feel the need to advocate for reform, but what's happening in our country is not okay.
		And, you know, you see these videos of people advocating for Sharia law.
		It's not okay.
		Going to people's businesses and harassing them and saying, get rid of pork and alcohol and get rid of all your haram products or we're going to harass you.
		That's not okay.
		We don't do that here in America.
		We don't do that here.
		That's not acceptable.
		That is Sharia law, whether people want to admit it or not.
unidentified		So, let's see.
unidentified		you He says it's barbaric.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's your right.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I'll defend it.
unidentified		Let's see what else he says.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate the conversation, though.
		I really do.
		I appreciate you actually taking two and a half hours of your night to listen to me talk about this, knowing how anti-Islam I am.
		But look, I hope that more Muslims will be open to this type of dialogue because I would like to see a good faith effort.
unidentified		That's all.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That's all I'm asking for.
		I'm just asking for a crackdown on jihad.
		I would like to see the Muslim Brotherhood get designated and banned from our country.
		And I would really like to see some good faith efforts by the Muslim community to admit that this has been going on and to hold their own accountable.
		I mean, if you are a Muslim and you recognize this barbarism and you are a Muslim and you recognize that It's inappropriate for Muslims to be blasting the call to prayer in communities five times a day.
		It's a sound ordinance issue.
		It's a sound violation.
		It's inconsiderate.
		How would you feel if somebody was blasting rap music in your house really loud, waking you up at all hours of the night?
		It's just, you have to be respectful.
		Nobody's saying you can't pray.
		Go pray, go pray, go pray.
		If you want to pray five times a day, I don't care.
		Go pray.
		But you can't blast the call to prayer five times a day like they're doing in Dearborn and Hamtramck in Minneapolis.
		It's unacceptable.
		It's un-American.
		And it's just not, it's not a good faith effort to show that you are assimilating.
		And I hope that Muslims watching will understand this and they will realize that I'm correct in what I'm saying, that it's not acceptable.
		You would not go blast your music at five o'clock in the morning and proceed to do that five times a day and wake your neighbors up.
		And so you would not like it if somebody did that to you.
		And I'm asking you to have that same level of respect to Americans who are not Muslim, who don't want to listen to the call to prayer five times a day.
		It's that simple.
		You can scroll down.
		Oh, what did he say?
unidentified		Scroll up.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		Say, God bless you, Laura.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		But read the book.
unidentified		I've read the book.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I know what the book says.
		We don't have to agree, but it is a problem.
		But thank you for your question and for tuning in tonight.
		do appreciate it.
unidentified		All right.
		Let's see.
		Scroll down.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		That I appreciate you also.
		Well, thank you.
		I appreciate that.
		And he says, this is my country.
		Great.
		If you're American, that's amazing.
		I just hope that you will encourage other Muslims to assimilate if they are foreigners here in our country and our land.
unidentified		That's all.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I just ask that if Muslims want to see more, I would say like less hostility to Islam in America, then you have to be an active partner in encouraging the Muslim community to assimilate.
		You have to be an active partner in the de-radicalization.
		You have to crack down on these Palestinian riots that are taking place across our country and major cities where they're chanting death to America and globalize the Intifada.
		Do you really think that Americans are in the wrong for having negative viewpoints towards Muslims and Islam when those types of rallies are happening and people are waving Hezbollah and Hamas flags?
		I don't think that Islamophobia is real personally because I don't think that it's irrational to have a phobia is an irrational fear.
		I personally do not believe that it is irrational to have a fear of something that says it wants to kill you.
		I have so many videos of myself going to these rallies where Muslims are screaming in my face that I should be killed for being Jewish, waving a Hezbollah flag in my face, hitting me in the face with a Hamas flag.
		So how am I supposed to feel?
unidentified		Right.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		How am I supposed to feel?
		I mean, I think that my views are pretty, pretty reasonable.
		And I don't have hate in my heart for Muslim people.
		I really honestly did have a Muslim coalition.
		And I will always be very fond of the Muslim women I met in my district who voted for me and welcomed me into their restaurants and welcomed me into their life and had a conversation with me.
		And I got to see firsthand that they're not all the same.
		I'm not saying that everybody is the same, but we have a serious problem in our country.
		Europe has a problem and we have to address it.
		And I'm not going to be gaslit by anybody into thinking that I'm a hateful person because I don't want people to die in acts of terrorism.
		Some of the biggest victims of terrorism themselves are Muslims themselves.
		Some of the biggest victims of Islam have been Muslim women who have been subjugated and beaten and killed in honor killings, have acid thrown in their faces.
		So I think that me speaking out about these egregious abuses and the violence that takes place under Islam is actually a sign of love.
		It's a sign of love for not just non-Muslims, but for also Muslims.
		I do.
		They hate me.
		They think I'm a bigot.
		They think I'm the biggest Islamophobe.
		I mean, all the Muslim groups hate me.
		They think I'm the worst person in the world.
		I'm really not.
		But, you know, that hasn't stopped them from trying to bankrupt me and trying to silence me and take away my free speech rights.
		And, you know, they should have thought about that.
		They should have thought about how their actions were going to impact me before they decided, before groups like CARE, and I'm not allowed to really speak about care, but everybody knows what they did to me, right?
		If they didn't want me to have the viewpoints that I had, then maybe they shouldn't have gone out of their way to silence me and infringe upon my rights as a U.S. as a U.S. citizen.
		They should have had a dialogue with me instead of trying to financially destroy me and ruin my career and silence me on social media platforms.
		That would have been a good start.
unidentified		Right?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they were very vicious towards me.
		They were very, very vicious towards me.
		And I think they need to look in the mirror.
		If they want to criticize me, they should look in the mirror and they should look at what they did to me.
		Scroll down.
		You are right in feeling like that if that's how they treated you.
		Oh, yeah.
		And it's not over.
		I still owe them money and I'm paying it off.
		And you know, it's been very disruptive to my life.
		And it was very unfair to be silenced.
		But look, there's two sides to every story.
		That's what I say.
		There's two sides to every story.
		And obviously, this is a problem that needs to be addressed.
		And Republicans are now finally starting to address the Islamification of our country.
		We're going to have a lot more to talk about on this issue.
		The topic of Islamification.
		I'm sure it's going to become a top issue heading into the 2026 midterms.
		But I have been streaming now for almost three hours and it's getting late.
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		Have a great evening.
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