"I Wish I Was ABORTED!" College Democrat's DARK Admission
College Democrat makes a DARK admission in order to keep his logic shockingly consistent while talking to Kaitlin at the University of Central Florida.
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It would be better for a child to be ripped apart in the womb than to be in foster care for 18 years.
Foster care is a really method for them.
Yeah, so it's better to poison them and dismember them in case they are in the system.
I would rather have a dead baby.
I would rather have a dead baby on my conscience than a baby that has to live a horrible life and get traumatized for the first 18 years of their life.
So you just them up in the womb and poison them?
Yeah, I would.
Spare them.
Spare them the 18 years.
Because honestly, sometimes I wish I was aborted.
Like right now, given the current state of everything in this world, I really wish my mom had just pulled.
Hi!
What about these?
Do you see these photos on here?
She's not talking to you.
She's not talking to you.
Do you usually tell black women what to do?
No, but she is my friend and she has already said she does not want to speak to you.
You speak for her?
Would you like to speak?
Do you let a white liberal man tell you what to do to speak for you?
What are you talking about?
I do not wish to speak to you.
You don't even know who I am.
I do know who you are.
I do know who you are.
Thank you for watching.
Yeah, that's crazy.
A white liberal is telling a black woman what she can and can't do and speaking for her.
I love the intentionally inflammatory statements that you make.
Truthfully, it brings me so much joy.
If you could grade Donald Trump's job so far, actually, you know what?
We're talking about voter ID today.
Do you think voter ID is racist?
What do you mean by voter ID?
Like having to have an ID to vote?
Yes.
Okay, so we already have that.
It's called the driver.
It's not a federal.
What do you mean not a federal?
Do you know what the SAVE Act is?
The SAVE Act?
No.
It's a bill going through Congress right now that has passed the House, but the Senate Democrats are vowing not to pursue it because it's a federal ID law.
Basically, in any federal election, you would have to show proof that you are who you say you are.
And you would have to, you're shaking.
Are you okay?
Yeah, I'm fine.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Democrats are saying it's Jim Crow 2.0 to pass this bill and they're vowing not to pass it even though 84% of Americans support it.
Do you agree with fellow Democrats that this is a Jim Crow 2.0 law?
I'm not going to say it's a Jim Crow 2.0, but we have driver's licenses that is proof of ID enough.
Yes.
And they're just asking people to take that to the ballot box and show their ID.
In Florida they do, but it's not a federal law.
There's some places like in Minnesota, you don't have to do that.
Okay.
Let's think about the repercussions.
Some people, a lot of people, I feel like their driver's IDs may be expired.
And just in general, there's a cost in going and getting a physical ID.
I know I've had like three IDs, not through like bad record or anything, just through like the pure bureaucratic process.
And that was like $40 at least.
Like I had to get like an ID and I think like an ID card, but not like valid to drive.
And then I had to go back, get it.
It's very complicated because also insurance, all those different things to consider.
And it's not necessary.
But should people have to go through those hoops in order to say who they prove who they are to vote?
You already get a voter ID.
Yes.
The voter ID already proves who you are.
And I believe you have to use your ID.
Let me explain the SAVE Act.
It would be a federal bill.
It would apply to every federal election.
Right now, in the state of Florida, we have voter ID laws.
There are 37 states that have voter ID laws, okay?
But not the entire United States and not for all federal elections.
This would apply for all federal elections for every single American citizen.
That's what changes.
And not every state requires this, but it would now require it.
And the Democrats are saying that it's a racist policy and it's anti-woman and that it's Jim Crow 2.0.
Well, I think it's very convenient for you to tell, like, be here and tell me and say that it, like, Democrats as a whole are saying that it's racist, this and whatever.
I said Senate Democrats.
Okay, Senate Democrats.
I'm not too familiar, but I do know that just in general, adding another barrier when it comes to voting, I know that Republicans, their current strategy is to add as many barriers as possible to voting, which is what happened in the Jim Crow era.
That's where that comparison comes from.
And I don't think it's like wrong to make comparisons.
Do you think it's a fair comparison?
I think it's a fair comparison.
Who is it racist against?
Hold on, I wasn't finished speaking because when it comes to, oh my gosh, my train of thought.
Sorry.
That's okay.
Who is it racist against?
He's not saying that it's racist.
He said it's a fair comparison to say Jimmy.
I didn't buy anything.
He did not say that it was racist.
He said it was a fair comparison.
You talk for people a lot, don't you?
No, go ahead.
He's helping me out.
He's a friend, and it's completely fair.
He's not a stranger.
What I was trying to say was that, yes, the Save Act, I believe you're missing a few key points of information.
It isn't just Can you give me those?
I don't remember off the top of my head.
It's also proof of citizenship to register the vote.
And also, I remember there being something about birth certificates being involved.
Yes.
As well.
All those are hard to get a hold of, especially if they're like copies and whatnot.
People may have lost.
Like, these sort of bureaucratic processes are typically with just like traveling and whatnot.
Adding, and we're not traveling.
This isn't a danger.
Voting is a right for every citizen.
Okay, so voting is a right.
You believe voting is a right?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay.
And sometimes it's hard to obtain certain documents that would get you an ID, proof of name change or whatever to be able to engage in that right.
And it would negatively affect those of poorer stature and also people that are pressed for time as well.
Okay, so the presidential election is every four years.
I think someone, anyone is capable that if they care about voting, they could get the required things in four years to do that.
I also, do you think that we should have ID to buy a gun?
Yes.
Hold on, wait.
Hold on, no, no, no.
You think we should have an ID to buy a gun?
Yes.
That is also a right.
That is also a right of American citizens to have firearms.
So we should have updated and properly up-to-date licenses for that, right?
Yes.
Then why not voting?
Okay, there are multiple.
There are so many rules about proper voting registration.
So again, what I'm trying to tell you is here in the state of Florida, we do have that.
In Minnesota, for example, they don't have that.
So this would be federally applied.
So what you're saying is that anybody can just go vote.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
In Minnesota, actually, you can, one person who was registered to vote ahead of time of Election Day, they can vouch for eight other people and come into the ballot box and just say, yeah, I vouch for them.
No, they can vouch and say, yeah, that person lives in this precinct.
This is where they live.
They can vote.
No ID at all.
And that would end that for federal elections.
It doesn't impact state and local elections.
But my point is that if you guys think that we should have IDs and proof of who we are to buy a gun, which is a Second Amendment right, how is it that we, the ID then is wrong to engage in the right of voting, which I don't think is a right, but to engage in the right of voting, why do we need an ID for that, but not something listed in the amendment?
I would love to explain this.
I'd love to explain it.
So we're talking apples to oranges here.
Yes, they're both rights, but the thing is, when it comes to voting, guns are a danger to people.
They just naturally are.
No, they're naturally not.
There is no natural state of a gun.
You can't shoot somebody with a vote ballot.
But a gun is not in its natural state dangerous to anybody.
What is the purpose?
It's a tool.
Okay.
What is the purpose?
It's a tool.
Yeah, to protect yourself.
To protect yourself at the harm of another.
It's a zero-sum game.
It's not like you're sending warning shots.
Like, there's like when you're handling a gun, I'm sure you know, and I've handled a gun before.
You have to be very careful.
Anyways.
Yeah, 3 million lives are saved every year due to defensive use of firearms.
I'm not arguing whether or not the Second Amendment rights should not be a thing or not.
I actually think it should be.
I will digress from that point and I will not let you distract me.
So, because I'm trying to speak here.
So, voting, the issue is, is that we already have issues enough getting enough people to vote.
It's that many people don't, okay, you said it was very convenient, in my opinion, that if somebody cares enough, they have four years to go register, go through the bureaucratic process, which on paper is great.
I think that's great if it was taught in a civics class.
But in reality, I'm sure many researchers know, and every single time there's an election, we see just how many people don't vote.
And whether lack of awareness, this or that, adding more barriers just makes it harder for the people, like just people in general, to care about voting, especially if people are caring about bills or just getting by, especially that's how a lot of Americans.
Speaking of bills, you have to have an ID to register your utilities under your name to pay your bills.
You also have to have an ID to apply to school, to get homes, and get housing.
So, when you talk about minority people, they also require an ID to sign up for welfare and benefits that the poor community and lower income people benefit from.
So, if they can get an ID to apply for welfare and government programs, why should they not be able to have an ID to vote?
Because they need IDs to live.
So, they'll already have it.
Yes, but voting is a right, but it's a nicety.
You don't need it to live.
That's why we need to bring awareness and make sure that we have measures in place to bring as many people to voting.
Because, yes, although you need an ID for things, other things like food stamps and things like that, you need those to live.
You cannot go without those.
So, they'll already have it on hand, and then they can go take it when they cast their vote.
Sorry, I wanted to ask you a question first.
Sure.
So, when it comes to the SAVE Act and adding IDs to ballots and whatnot, do you have any, like, does it propose any sort of plans to increase like mobility towards the elections, like, let's say, public transportation, like buses, things like that nature?
I have not read anything about that.
This is about securing the elections to make sure they are safe and only American citizens are voting.
And that people who say that they are this person, there's only one vote being cast by them, and they can account that this person is an American citizen.
This person is voting one time.
Here's their ID to prove that.
And there you go.
37 states have this already.
And in Georgia, when they actually implemented voter ID laws, the following federal election, it actually increased voter turnout.
There was a higher voter turnout than the previous year when there wasn't voter ID laws.
Okay, what was that election?
What was the second election and what was the first election for it?
I'm not sure, actually.
That's a good question.
I'm not sure what exact election it was.
I don't know if a correlation between who we're voting for versus the fact that there are better IDs.
But more people voted.
More people were able to obtain the necessary documents and the IDs.
I just don't, I don't comprehend how we have those documents already on hand.
Most people do have an ID.
And if you don't have an ID, and if you just, you don't care enough to get it, I don't think you should be voting.
It's not just be caring.
Everybody, you can be an American citizen, but to be too broke, be too like time-starved and like having.
Well, you shouldn't be voting.
No, you shouldn't.
No, you should be.
Someone who is too broke to get an ID crunch for time, too crunched for time, that you can't in four years obtain an ID to vote.
You have four years.
Okay, not everybody.
You have four years.
Not everybody has four years.
Yes, everybody literally has four years between presidential elections.
My first election that I got to vote in was the 2020 election.
I did not have four months to get all the necessary documents to get my voter ID, to get my regular ID, and everything else.
I had four months.
Now, I was very lucky.
I had the time.
I was able to get everything done before Florida passed their own laws about changing how ID processes work.
Not everybody is afforded that.
Okay.
Here's the thing: everybody knows when election days are.
Everybody knows when they turn 18 that they're allowed to vote.
Every literally, every single thing, and if you don't know that, you shouldn't be voting.
If you don't take the time, you don't care enough, you have four years to do this.
You don't care enough to have an ID, which I don't know who is operating in this country that doesn't have an ID, then you shouldn't be voting.
Go ahead.
Okay, so I want to look at the cameras when I say this because we have mentioned things for you to consider about it's not just not caring about elections, things to consider such as time and money, things that are not equal for everybody.
And you've continued to say the same things, and it's like talking to the wind.
It's like I'm not talking to a human, and when I'm hearing, I'm saying one thing, and I'm getting back a talking point.
And I feel like that's that says something about your character.
If you don't have time in four years to get an ID, if you don't have enough money to save up to get an ID in four years, you should not be voting.
You are not smart enough.
You do not care enough.
You should not be voting.
And see, that's very privileged.
That's very privileged.
Because the thing is, voting is an American citizen right.
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It's not a, if you're smart enough, right?
It's not if you're rich enough, right?
Like able to afford it, right?
Then let's get rid of IDs in order to get a gun.
Then no IDs to get a gun.
No background text.
Comparing apples to oranges.
Nope, it's a right.
It is a right to have a firearm.
You can do a farm with a firearm.
Yeah, you can do harm casting a vote, especially when you support the slaughter of unborn children in the womb.
You vote to support that.
That is more harmful than buying a gun.
I don't vote to support that because at the end of the day, it's about a woman's right to choose.
It's not about the unborn clump of cells that is not a person.
What is it?
It is not a living human being.
What is it?
What is it?
It is a fetus, which is scientifically.
A fetus of what?
It is a fetus.
What type of fetus?
It is a person.
At one point, it will be a person.
So what is it beforehand?
It's a fetus.
It is just a fetus.
What type of feteth is?
It is a clump of cells.
What type of fetus?
I just responded to that.
What type of fetus?
Is it a pig?
No, I'm a hamburger.
It's a person.
So it's a fetus.
But a human being.
But it is not living.
It is not breathing.
It is not conscious.
It is not a person.
Yeah, you just said it was.
No, it.
You're asking what kind of fetus it is.
It is going to be a human if it is carried to term.
Okay.
So at 20 weeks, what type of fetus is that?
It's still a human fetus.
Yeah.
But it is not a human.
It is not a person.
So how is a human fetus not a human?
It's not a, it is not conscious.
It does not, it cannot survive on its own.
Yeah.
Well, that's funny.
You're right.
It can't because its rightful place is in its mother's womb.
That's where, that's where babies are conceived and where they grow for nine months.
That's, I mean, that's science, guys.
We know that what that is.
But if it's a human fetus, how can it not be a human person?
It's it doesn't.
Okay, so I was.
No, no, no, go ahead.
Okay, good.
I do not hold the belief that a fetus is a person.
I do not believe that we should base a woman's life off of the fact that she can have kids and off the fact that she might be pregnant with something that cannot sustain on its own.
Up until a certain point, I believe that you should have the right to choose on whether or not you have an abortion.
What's that?
What's that line?
Whatever, is it 32, whenever the viability of the child is.
In some states, in some countries, it's as low as like 18 rates.
So it's not countries because we are focused on the U.S.
Yeah, well, humans are all over the world.
Yes, but point of viability depends.
We are arguing right now.
Point of viability depends on what medical, what medical instruments a certain hospital has.
So a child could be born at 20 weeks and still survive.
But in some other states, they might have enough equipment that where at 18 weeks a child could survive.
How are those children not children just because they were in their mother's womb?
It's a matter of location.
It depends.
What I think is it depends on how it affects the parents, not just the woman, but the mother and the father.
I don't think that abortion needs to be readily available to just like, oh, I forgot to take a plan B. Let me go get another one.
Why not?
Why do you believe that?
Because I do think that it is a very invasive medical practice that does have its own risks.
I've heard that it's super safe.
I've heard that it's super safe.
But if that's not a human, if that's not a human and it's just a clip of selves, why do you think it shouldn't be readily available for someone to use as contraception?
Because it is an invasive medical prevention.
But that's her choice, right?
Yes.
She should have the choice to get that.
I do not think it shouldn't be readily available for her as contraception.
It shouldn't be readily available.
I said it should not be used as a form of contraception.
Why?
I just, it's not, there are many other things that you can do.
It's expensive.
It's invasive.
It does carry its own risks that other forms of contraception do not.
Okay.
So this is very interesting.
You know why you don't think it should be used as contraception because you know that is a person in there.
Only human beings can conceive.
I did not say that I thought it was a good idea.
But you know it.
Yes, you did.
You did say that.
Oh, look.
You know that.
Now the white Republican is speaking for the white man since you want to bring that topic into conversation.
Yeah, I'm only repeating exactly what you said that you believe in.
There's a reason why you don't think it should be used as contraception.
So what reasons would be allowed for a woman to get an abortion?
I think she should be allowed to get an abortion if it is due to her health.
If she just chooses, like, hey, I'm not financially stable enough to have a child.
Okay, I'm going to stable.
Like, that's, you should be allowed to just get it if it is either medically necessary or financially necessary for you because you have to take care of yourself.
But if she said, oh, I slept around last night, got a little tipsy, I didn't use protection, then that is her choice.
But she shouldn't be doing it.
I don't, I don't care because at the end of the day, it is her choice.
I know that you care, and I know that you think it shouldn't be contraception because you know that's a person in there and you admitted it multiple times.
And what a shame.
So this is how, this is how a vote can be more dangerous than someone acquiring a gun.
This is how it could be more dangerous.
Your policies, the things you support, have killed 60 million children since Roe v. Wade.
Thank God it was reversed, but it's still happening.
And so you support policies of genocide.
I support gun ownership because people defend themselves with it, including their unborn children.
So your vote is more dangerous than anyone with a gun.
You really execute your points well.
Okay.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Anyway.
Hold on, wait.
I think a multitude of perspectives is...
Okay, I would like to start talking this point because when it comes to the start of the conversation, I kind of tuned out once you guys were going back and forth.
So going back to the beginning of this conversation, when.
Hold on, guys, you guys are going to distract me.
Thank you.
We can just.
Okay.
Yeah, we're good, we're good.
When it comes to talking about the abortion, like just abortion in general, and differentiating between fetus and personhood and children, I think that's where it gets very messy.
And I think that's where it's very easy to make it a very charged conversation where it should not be.
Because looking at abortion through a scientific lens and like body health lens, that's where the language is specifically a fetus.
A doctor talks about that, like I guess a fetus in your belly as a fetus.
Just like when they talk about like a dead body or like it could be a corpse or whatever.
You know, like these are scientific terms.
And that's why it's talked about in like weeks and whatnot.
Yeah.
That's just how old they are.
Weeks of gestation, like 23 weeks, that's just how old the baby is.
Yeah, and that's what you believe.
But am I wrong?
But what do the weeks mean?
I just think I disagree that I don't, and I don't think it's sensible to think that everybody will see a fetus as a child or person when they're still in the mother's womb.
I agree with you.
I know that not everybody sees it that way.
That doesn't make it not true.
It doesn't matter if we, there were a lot of people who saw black people as not humans and that they could be used as slaves.
And we could dehumanize them.
They were only three-fifths of a person at one time.
And that was more than what they were the year prior to that enactment.
That doesn't make it true, though.
We know that black people have, no, just even morally and ethically.
Yeah, yeah, morally and ethically.
Black people have always been people.
They've always been a whole person created in the image of God, meant to be here on this earth on purpose.
We all know, even if not everybody agrees, that two human beings can only create another human being.
There's no other thing that that baby inside could be.
It's just not possible.
It's literally not possible.
It's a human fetus with rights because all humans deserve rights.
If we believe in human rights, we have to start at the moment humans exist, which is at conception.
And it really bothers me.
I've had two children.
I've never once been to a doctor that calls my baby a fetus.
I've never once heard a heartbeat and said, oh, we found the clump of cells beating its heart all by itself because it's just a dead clump of cells and it's not alive.
Never heard that language.
That doesn't happen because we all know what women are pregnant with, which are children.
It's true.
I have not been pregnant before, and I've not been to a doctor for pregnancy.
Why haven't you been pregnant before?
Because I'm a guy.
But that's what I identify as.
Yeah, well, you can't identify as anything else.
You are a man.
If I identified as something else, there are options for me to go about changing.
Yeah, well, you're not a woman.
You'll never be pregnant because you're not a woman.
Me, Nelson, I'm not.
So, yeah, I'm in full agreement with you.
Yes, of course.
I do think it's very understandable that a doctor would not say to your face, that fetus in your...
But why not, though?
Because...
Because more than likely, that doctor can tell from your standpoint, and also just in general, it's rude to simplify something that will be a child into something purely scientific.
Just like in the past argument, you were comparing using black people described as slaves and whatnot, which, yes, scientifically we know that we're not.
There's also moral and ethics.
You would not go around calling black people slurs or derogatory names, whatever.
Not just because it's moral, but specifically baseline, it's scientific.
And when it comes to abortion, yes, like you can, like, it's understandable to call a child, like, or a fetus, a child, whatever.
And it, look, even I will say it, because colloquially, like, that's it's understood as someone's pregnant, okay?
With a child or whatever.
With a baby.
Do they deserve rights to the body?
That being said, scientifically, it is still in the mother's womb, and it is not out of the womb yet and not a child.
Can I respond to that, actually?
Yes, you believe that.
So when some, I'm sorry, is that okay if I respond?
You know, I just wanted to agree that the, so I just want to point out the crux of the issue or the disagreement.
We'll come back to our argument.
Yeah, yeah.
Is that child or human rights begin at the moment of contraception?
Conception.
Conception, sorry.
No, that's okay.
Yeah.
And then for me, I believe that it happens once the baby is delivered.
Okay.
And I think so if someone is on the moon and they're wearing a spacesuit in order to survive on the moon, are they a person?
Yes.
Even though they're on the moon.
They're born.
Like they're here on this earth.
Yeah.
Well, they're on the moon.
Or on the moon.
Yeah.
But they wouldn't survive in that environment without a spacesuit, right?
I think that's irrelevant.
No, no, no, no.
Just answer yes or no.
No, yes, I agree.
Okay, so a fetus, I'll use your terms, a fetus, would not survive at a certain week's gestation if they were outside the mother's womb.
Because that's where their environment is at that stage of development.
We're all fetuses at one point.
Now, if we took that fetus out of the environment that that fetus is supposed to be in, they would die because that's not where they're meant to be.
Just like if a person was put on the moon without a spacesuit, it's not their environment.
But that doesn't mean they're not a person on the moon.
When you have a fetus in the womb, that's the environment.
It doesn't make them not a person.
It just means that that's where they're meant to be at that stage of development.
Absolutely.
And I think that's a great point when it comes to human rights.
Because let's say when you have like a baby that's born prematurely, I don't think you should just kill them.
No, I think absolutely, if like that baby's already here, it must be fought for whether the parents care or not.
But why is it you are okay with aborting children in the womb that weren't born prematurely at the same age?
At that point, it's still a choice.
It's still in the womb.
It's not out and a living being just yet.
So what makes a person a living?
Because it is a living being, actually.
Women, when their babies die inside, it's called a miscarriage.
That's when, that's when, that is very tragic.
That's when the fetus has died.
Women are not pregnant with random dead clumps of cells.
We can use the clumps of cells argument.
It's still living.
That's still a living, it meets all of the qualifications for signs of life.
It responds to stimuli.
The cells are rapidly growing and differentiating and stuff like that.
Metabolic processes are happening.
So it's not dead.
It is alive.
They're just small.
They're just small.
But there is no other possible way, except for an act of God, for a person to be created.
If you can point to me where a person has been created without being gestated by a woman, I will concede my point.
But there is no possible way for a human being, a person, to be created besides an act of God and a miracle.
But that's where people began.
Yeah.
And that is all it is.
And they are persons.
And do you guys believe in human rights for everyone?
Yes, I do.
Now, and that's the thing.
But you don't, though.
No, I do agree.
You don't.
But there's a complication because when a baby's in the womb, you're arguing that the baby has human rights.
Yes.
I understand.
But also the woman does at that point too.
So there's a clash.
And I know probably there's a lot of legal arguments in that gray area there.
But the reason why I hold my view is because I know on a society-wide level, well, there's two important factors.
So before I get to my big statement, I want to also point out that I'm pretty sure abortions are not allowed until a certain point when the baby in the womb is too developed.
Not in California, not in New York, not in.
I don't know what current laws are because they're changing all the time, but California and New York, you can get an abortion up until the moment of birth.
I didn't know that.
What is the statistic on people actually doing that?
What is the statistic on people getting third trimester abortion?
It's about 3,000.
Yeah, it's about 3,000 a year.
3,000 a year.
Yep.
97% of abortions are committed in the first trimester for, what's the word?
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For elective reasons.
So it's not like their life is in danger.
It's not like they're being abused or anything.
It's just because they don't want the child.
And what is that?
Hold on.
Sorry.
And I feel like that's a really good point.
And honestly, I will use that statistic myself.
So you said 97% of abortions are in the first trimester.
So I think preventing abortions in that early stage before the baby's like really developed and grown and whatnot.
Because we tend to focus so much on the end of pregnancy and birth in abortion topics when in actuality, like 3% of abortions are in the second or third trimester.
No, 3,000.
3,000, yeah.
Late-term abortions happen every year.
They're still open in late-term abortion facilities.
You said 97 happened.
Okay.
Yeah.
But it's like very little.
So when we talk about abortion.
Well, if 3,000 people were killed by ICE agents every year, would you have an issue with that?
Yes.
And plenty of people are being killed by ICE agents, which I do have an issue with.
Yeah, and there's plenty of people being killed by illegal immigrants.
So if 3,000 people were killed by...
There are plenty of people being killed by American citizens.
Okay, so yes, I know.
Abortions are being performed.
The number one cause of death in this country is abortion.
It kills over a million children every year.
Over a million.
That's a genocide.
So if you have an issue with a hypothetical 3,000 people every year being killed by ICE agents, you should also have an issue with the 3,000 children in the third trimester being ripped apart in the womb and killed and their brain suctioned out.
What is, okay, so if there are 3,000 late-term abortions, and you said that 97% of the abortions are usually done within the first trimester for elective reasons, what is the statistic of those 3,000 abortions being for elective reasons versus medical reasons?
So...
So it's funny when you look at how they categorize this, they always say mental health and medical reasons for a late-term abortion.
Well, your doctor could just say, oh, your mental health is a reason why we could go through with this abortion and they sign off on it.
The baby's healthy.
You're healthy.
You're just struggling mentally.
And then you could have an abortion.
So you did not answer my question.
Oh, I don't know the statistic.
I would assume 100% because that's typically what the law says.
They claim, they claim it's for medical reasons that late into the pregnancy.
However, their medical reasons could just say a doctor writing it off for mental health, which is not a reason to commit a third trimester abortion or any abortion, but especially a third trimester abortion.
I'm going to jump in a little bit because let me just let me just say, I've been sexually assaulted.
I'm very sorry about that.
I'm sorry.
But I'm just saying.
So if someone has been sexually assaulted and you go about, a lot of the times, pregnancy is very different for every woman.
A lot of times you don't even know.
You don't even realize because we have to go through so much.
We're very busy.
And I think it is a little bit of a privileged take just to assume that people are getting abortions just for the, like you're making it seem like people are getting abortions for the sake of getting abortions, but there's so many reasons where in this society, women cannot raise children.
Break out the fire.
Oh my god, is there another car fire?
Anyways, there are many reasons besides mental health to where women in their third trimester would have to abort a baby.
Tell me, tell me what mental health reason would justify a third trimester abortion.
No, I said besides mental health.
Okay.
Do you think mental health is a good enough reason to abort a child in the third trimester?
Well, it could be.
Describe a third trimester abortion to me.
Okay, so it could be a lot of the times, you know, a woman may not realize she's pregnant.
You know, describe a third trimester abortion to me.
Have you ever been pregnant?
I don't know, but I'm just saying.
But if you're going to say that it's okay in some circumstances, describe the procedure of an abortion in the third trimester.
Describe the procedure.
Many people are living patient to paycheck.
People live paycheck to patients.
Describe how a third trimester abortion is performed.
The complication in the performance.
I don't know.
I'm not a big baby.
I don't know.
You know what they do?
They bring the woman into the hospital or the abortion clinic.
They give her Pitocin and other drugs to start labor.
To start labor.
So she's already going to be in labor anyway.
She labors for three days as they administer drugs into the baby, right into the baby, into the amniotic fluid, and into the baby's skull to kill the baby and stop a heartbeat.
And then they go in with instruments with tongs, with claws and spikes on the end of them, and they start ripping the baby out.
And they start counting to make sure they have two legs and two arms and ten fingers.
And then they stick a suction in there to get the brains out.
They crush the skull to make sure that the skull comes out all as well.
Because if not all of the baby comes out in every little piece, the woman could go into septic shock and she could die.
Is that ever okay?
Defend that.
Okay.
That sounds like an extremely traumatic process.
In turn, if a woman is willing to go through that process to not have a baby, there is a circumstance to where they cannot raise that child.
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I would.
Wow.
That is, it's traumatic for the woman.
It is, yes, it is, it is harmful for the unborn baby.
It's an awful situation for everybody.
Unfortunately, if that is the route that women have to go through instead of raising a baby, a baby is a lifetime commitment.
So why does that baby have to be crushed and suctioned out to death and poisoned to death?
Because instead of just getting a C-section in the third trimester and giving that baby care and adopt it out, or even it would be so much better for that baby to be in the system for 18 years and to be crushed and poisoned.
It would be better for a child to be ripped apart in the womb than to be in foster care for 18 years.
Foster care is a really messy system.
Yeah, so it's better to poison them and dismember them in case they are in the system.
I would rather have a dead baby.
I would rather have a dead baby on my conscience than a baby that has to live a horrible life and get traumatized and up for the first 18 years of their life.
So you just them up in the womb and poison them?
Yeah, I would.
Yeah.
Spare them those 18 years.
Spare them the 18 years.
Because honestly, sometimes I wish I was aborted.
Like right now, given the current state of everything in this world, I really wish my mom had just pulled the trigger.
If you are in college, you're on a college campus right now.
You're getting an education.
You're dressed very well.
You have nice headphones there.
You are not struggling for anything.
You've got jewelry.
You've got nice sunglasses on.
You're here at a college campus and you're going to look at us.
What are you talking about privilege?
What a privileged thing to say that you wish that your mom had just killed you because you're doing so poorly.
You're at UCF right now.
You're a college student getting an education.
Things are so, they're so bad for you, isn't it?
Yeah.
It's so bad for you.
I have plenty of my own shit.
You can't look at the fact that like, oh, I'm at college.
My college is paid for because of Florida state laws that allow people to get affordable access.
What an even more privileged thing to say.
So your college is free.
That's not me.
That's not just me.
That is half of this campus at least.
You know, you.
But I am also actively demonized as a queer person because of the fucking political climate.
Like, how so?
I'm actively, I've been hate crimed.
I have been hate crimed.
What hate crimes have happened to you?
People assault me all the time because I'm a Trump supporter and a conservative and I am a pro-lifer and all that.
Anyway, I appreciate your conversations.
I think you, all of all three of you, are perfect in the image of God.
And you were made on purpose to be here, just like every other child.
You were all valuable because you were all people.
And God put you here for a reason.
And you were valuable from the time you were conceived in your mother's womb.
And I'm very, very disgusted.
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And I am alarmed in your rhetoric and yours too as a woman, that you would dare say that it is better to be poisoned and ripped apart in the womb than it would be to be in a foster care system where you can have so many opportunities to do anything that you can.
Opportunities in foster care.
But you know what one opportunity foster care kids don't have?
They're not going to be poisoned by their own mother and ripped apart with tongs with teeth on them so everyone could count their little baby toes to make sure they're out there.
What a disgusting thing to say.
You will reflect on this and if you ever become pregnant, you will look back at this because it'll be up.
No, you won't.
And I guarantee you.
I'll take you to that appointment.
When you have children one day, you're going to regret everything you just said.
You're going to look at that baby's face one day and you're going to say, I cannot believe, I cannot believe that I said the things that I said.
You're going to be ashamed of yourself and you should be ashamed of yourself.