Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett - Trans Student Tells Mom: We're The Same
Aired: 2025-08-31
Duration: 15:05


=== Fundamental Differences (03:31) ===

[00:00:00]  So you would say, because I'm a woman, you would say you and I are the same?
[00:00:04]  Uh, yeah, just about.
[00:00:06]  Like, categorically, yeah.
[00:00:08]  Of course, there are always differences between, like, individuals, like, height, weight, stuff like that, like...
[00:00:15]  But is there anything fundamentally different than us, between us?
[00:00:18]  Um...
[00:00:19]  Uh, like height, hair color, stuff like that.
[00:00:24]  Nothing else?
[00:00:26]  Like, one or two, like features here or there.
[00:00:31]  Like?
[00:00:32]  Uh.
[00:00:36]  I've had two children.
[00:00:39]  Yeah.
[00:00:39]  That's a fundamental difference between us.
[00:00:41]  Because I'm a woman.
[00:00:43]  I've had two children.
[00:00:44]  I've kind of already grown a decuff naturally.
[00:00:51]  What's your name?
[00:00:52]  Joyla.
[00:00:53]  Joyla.
[00:00:54]  Okay, what's your major?
[00:00:55]  Studio art.
[00:00:57]  What job are we getting with that?
[00:00:59]  Uh, I'm thinking I wanted to go into graphic design, uh, my...
[00:01:05]  Sorry.
[00:01:06]  Don't want anyone to run into you.
[00:01:08]  I think I'm going to go into the same field that my older brother's boyfriend is in.
[00:01:13]  It would be nice to have like a member of someone close by who knows the ins and outs of the field and stuff.
[00:01:19]  Absolutely.
[00:01:20]  We're asking students today if they could tell us what they think about Donald Trump's job so far eight months into his second term.
[00:01:29]  Pretty bad.
[00:01:30]  I think I was never on his side to begin with and I think a lot of people are especially pissed off after how he dealt with the whole Epstein file thing.
[00:01:40]  Yeah.
[00:01:42]  And obviously a lot of things that he's done and stood for aren't good for me personally.
[00:01:49]  Go on.
[00:01:51]  Just like.
[00:01:55]  Since the kind of the inception of his campaign all the way back when I was man, I was 15 at the time.
[00:02:04]  Crazy.
[00:02:05]  But yeah.
[00:02:07]  What's not good for you?
[00:02:11]  I don't know.
[00:02:11]  think social climate wise very polarizing not a great just doesn't like feel feels like the Republican Party kind of became like his whole thing Okay, but why isn't it good for you?
[00:02:26]  You said it wasn't good for you personally.
[00:02:28]  In what way?
[00:02:34]  I mean...
[00:02:42]  Kind of not the easiest.
[00:02:49]  Uh, like, I mean, obviously, okay.
[00:03:03]  So to stop beating around the bush, obviously the trans thing, it makes that harder.
[00:03:09]  It makes it harder for you to do what?
[00:03:12]  Basically, like getting the care that I need to live life comfortably and all that.

=== Realization Of Identity (02:44) ===

[00:03:20]  He has made it harder.
[00:03:21]  How has Donald Trump made that harder?
[00:03:23]  So when I go in to get like the stuff that I need in other states, it's basically you just take the informed consent one time.
[00:03:32]  It covers everything and you don't really have to worry about it for that much.
[00:03:36]  But now because of a lot of the stuff he's doing, I have to go.
[00:03:42]  Every time anything new gets added, I have to go through the whole rigor morole of talking to the psychiatrist, going through them, paying like high premiums.
[00:03:52]  What age were you when you first started taking, I'm guessing, hormones?
[00:03:57]  Yeah, I was 20 at the time.
[00:04:04]  Okay.
[00:04:05]  How old were you when you realized that, what, you weren't a man?
[00:04:08]  I was about around 22 of the same age.
[00:04:15]  But it was around 18 that I really knew, but I didn't really start the process until a few years later.
[00:04:24]  And what kind of things did you have access to, or what kind of media did you consume that helped you realize that you were a woman?
[00:04:36]  I don't know if it was a media thing, but more so an internal realization, you know?
[00:04:42]  Like viewing the world around me and the way I fit into it, sort of, it was like kind of a self-realization thing.
[00:04:53]  I don't, like, of course, seeing people represented on TV is good, but I don't think it was the be-all-end-all make-or-break moment or anything.
[00:05:05]  When did you realize you were a woman?
[00:05:12]  I think it was sometime during 2020, around the time lockdown and all that, I had more time for myself to, like, think.
[00:05:23]  And at some point, I came to the realization that the way, like, the mold that I was kind of pushed into due to like the way I was born wasn't really how I saw myself and I wasn't like happy or content being that way.
[00:05:43]  So it's hard to pin down to just one singular like Eureka moment, but it does come as like a very gradual thing.

=== Pretending to Be Black (09:18) ===

[00:05:51]  Okay.
[00:05:54]  So you would say, because I'm a woman, you would say you and I are the same?
[00:05:58]  Yeah, just about.
[00:06:00]  Like, categorically, yeah.
[00:06:02]  Of course, there are always differences between like individuals, like height, weight, stuff like that.
[00:06:09]  But is there anything fundamentally different than us between us?
[00:06:13]  Uh, like height, hair color, stuff like that.
[00:06:18]  Nothing else?
[00:06:20]  Like, one or two, like, features here or there.
[00:06:25]  Like.
[00:06:31]  I mean, well, obviously there's the matter of, like, like, develop, like, uh, how the bodies develop, uh, like, uh, what gentility people are born with, stuff like that.
[00:06:45]  Uh, and yeah, I've had two children.
[00:06:50]  That's a fundamental difference between us.
[00:06:53]  Because I'm a woman.
[00:06:54]  I've had two children.
[00:06:57]  Yeah, there are ways that, like, uh, of course, I couldn't, like, get.
[00:07:04]  Actually, wait.
[00:07:04]  I think somewhere they actually have successfully managed to implant a womb into a trans woman.
[00:07:10]  Like, had a net.
[00:07:12]  I could look that up right now, but science.
[00:07:16]  Tell me how a trans woman would give birth to a child with an implanted womb.
[00:07:25]  Uh, yeah, wait, let me look it up right now.
[00:07:29]  It's not possible.
[00:07:31]  Wait.
[00:07:32]  Where is... This...
[00:07:35]  And...
[00:07:37]  That's not possible.
[00:07:38]  I'm pretty sure I saw a story.
[00:07:39]  That's not possible.
[00:07:39]  I'm pretty sure I saw a story.
[00:07:39]  It's not possible to do that.
[00:07:41]  Little miracle.
[00:07:41]  Oh, yeah.
[00:07:42]  April 7th, 2025.
[00:07:43]  First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb.
[00:07:48]  To a woman with a transplanted womb?
[00:07:51]  Yeah.
[00:07:53]  A woman, not a man.
[00:07:54]  Well, yeah.
[00:07:55]  Transgender women now see hope that they could one day become pregnant despite having would you like to do that one day?
[00:08:02]  I'm not sure if I want kids, uh, but I like the option being there potentially, even if it's not like a thing that can happen right now in a decade or so when the medical science behind it gets better.
[00:08:18]  I like that the option could be there for people who do want to.
[00:08:24]  So that's yeah, like parenthood isn't for every individual.
[00:08:31]  Like, there are, of course, like cis cis men and women who never want to have kids.
[00:08:36]  What is a cis woman?
[00:08:38]  Uh, it's someone who's like assigned gender.
[00:08:41]  Basically, like if you identify as a woman and were born like with like uterus stuff like that, even though there's some variants because there are intersex people who are born with like a mixture of different parts, but it would be like basically you, right?
[00:09:01]  Because you identify with she, her pronouns.
[00:09:03]  I am a woman because I was born a woman.
[00:09:06]  I can't be anything other than a woman.
[00:09:08]  I mean.
[00:09:10]  If I looked at you and I said, I'm black, would you be okay with that?
[00:09:15]  Well, on a fundamental level, I think, like the way gender goes.
[00:09:22]  So, the way race goes.
[00:09:25]  I'm black.
[00:09:26]  Would I be able to get access to scholarships for black people?
[00:09:31]  Would I have access to black-only dorms?
[00:09:33]  Would I have access to things in this country that are set aside just for black people?
[00:09:39]  Would you feel comfortable with that?
[00:09:41]  Fundamentally, I feel like race and gender aren't really in categories where that like.
[00:09:49]  Would you be okay with that?
[00:09:51]  I don't know if race dysphoria is like a thing in the sand.
[00:09:54]  Would you be okay if I identified as black and I started going into black spaces, claiming to be black, and then taking the opportunities that are there for black people?
[00:10:08]  That kind of already yes or no.
[00:10:15]  Let's be honest, you wouldn't be okay with that because I'm not black, right?
[00:10:21]  The thing is.
[00:10:22]  Am I black?
[00:10:23]  Am I black?
[00:10:24]  I don't really think race.
[00:10:26]  Am I black?
[00:10:28]  From what I see, no.
[00:10:30]  Why am I not black?
[00:10:34]  I mean, shoot, I can't always tell.
[00:10:36]  It's possible that you're like, I don't know, black passing or something.
[00:10:39]  Am I black passing?
[00:10:40]  Comment below if you think I'm black passing.
[00:10:43]  I have blonde hair, blue eyes.
[00:10:45]  I get so burnt if I'm out in the sun for like 10 minutes.
[00:10:48]  I'm not black, and you know that I'm not black.
[00:10:51]  And you know why I'm not black?
[00:10:53]  Because I'm not black.
[00:10:54]  I'm white.
[00:10:57]  Do you think though I'm asking this question is because I don't think men should be coming into my spaces.
[00:11:04]  Do you use the women's restroom in places where I feel safe doing so?
[00:11:13]  What do you say to the women, maybe even students on this campus who don't want you to do that?
[00:11:17]  I haven't encountered any.
[00:11:19]  But what would you say?
[00:11:21]  Do you belong in those women's spaces?
[00:11:24]  I'm welcomed there by do you belong there?
[00:11:27]  Yeah, I'm welcomed.
[00:11:29]  Like, my experience using the women's bathroom here has been people are very friendly.
[00:11:33]  People will compliment me on my makeup, my boots, like different stuff that I wear.
[00:11:38]  People are very friendly and accommodating.
[00:11:41]  Okay.
[00:11:42]  So, like, hasn't been an issue for me.
[00:11:45]  Okay.
[00:11:46]  I hope it's never particularly an issue for you, but I hope you stop doing that Because you shouldn't be going into the women's restroom.
[00:11:58]  You shouldn't be doing that.
[00:12:00]  It would be a bit odd for someone with, it would be a bit odd for someone full face of makeup with like.
[00:12:08]  I also don't think you should do that.
[00:12:11]  I've kind of already grown a D-cup naturally, so it's...
[00:12:15]  wasn't natural that you grew that?
[00:12:17]  It was hormones in my own body that kind of You injected hormones into your body that made you do that.
[00:12:22]  And you were born perfectly.
[00:12:24]  The way you were born was perfect.
[00:12:26]  There was nothing wrong with you.
[00:12:28]  You were perfect the way you came out of your mother's womb.
[00:12:31]  Thank you, but also.
[00:12:32]  You're welcome.
[00:12:33]  Like, I mean, the cameraman's wearing glasses.
[00:12:36]  That implies that there was something like there was something that they noticed.
[00:12:41]  Like, oh, my quality of life would be way better if something was changed.
[00:12:46]  And so they went out, did something to change it, i.e. getting the glasses.
[00:12:50]  Yeah.
[00:12:50]  And there are people out there who, like, you know, sometimes they're balding and they take stuff to make sure that they don't go bald.
[00:12:57]  Right.
[00:12:58]  People getting like dental correct.
[00:13:01]  Yeah, I know what you're saying.
[00:13:03]  And so my husband wearing glasses is just acknowledging that he has poor eyesight and he needs help perfecting that eyesight.
[00:13:12]  You taking hormones and pretending to be a woman does not sit there and say, oh, I have trouble with who I was born.
[00:13:19]  I want to perfect the person I know that I was born as and I want to be a, I want to know myself better as who God made me.
[00:13:27]  You were pretending to be someone that you're not.
[00:13:30]  My husband isn't pretending to have 20-20 vision.
[00:13:33]  You're pretending to be a woman.
[00:13:35]  I was pretending.
[00:13:36]  I was like very much pretending to be a man for those first 22 years.
[00:13:41]  I am so sorry that you feel that way and there was no one in your community that could affirm you and who you are and who you were.
[00:13:49]  But I will say, I am so sick of men going into women's spaces if I'm being honest.
[00:13:54]  And I would ask you to quit going into women's bathrooms and stop acting like we're the same because we're not the same.
[00:14:00]  but I wish nothing but the best for you.
[00:14:03]  What do you think about trans men being forced?
[00:14:06]  There's no such thing.
[00:14:06]  Trans men's bathrooms.
[00:14:08]  Trans men being forced?
[00:14:10]  Because, like, okay, let's say a guy takes hormones, like, he starts to grow a beard and all that.
[00:14:16]  He was born a woman, but because of this, he's made to go into a women's bathroom, even though...
[00:14:24]  Yeah, so it should have been illegal for him to even take any of that stuff, because he's not a woman.
[00:14:29]  Or what are you talking about?
[00:14:30]  A man?
[00:14:30]  A woman.
[00:14:30]  Yeah, so it should have been illegal for her to take any of that.
[00:14:32]  I'm going to move on to other people and potentially get going home.
[00:14:36]  But I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me.
[00:14:38]  You're perfect the way that you were born.
[00:14:41]  And that is who you're meant to be.
[00:14:42]  So a quick call to action.
[00:14:44]  And actually, you guys will like this one.
[00:14:46]  I just want to pray for that young man.
[00:14:47]  I'm going to ask you guys right now, even pause the video, say a quick prayer for him.
[00:14:51]  Say a Hail Mary.
[00:14:53]  He was born perfect the way he was born.
[00:14:56]  And unfortunately, he didn't have anybody either praying for him or affirming him and that and helping him through his masculinity.
[00:15:04]  So we're going to pray for him.