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Aug. 31, 2025 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
15:05
Trans Student Tells Mom: We're The Same
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Fundamental Differences 00:03:31
So you would say, because I'm a woman, you would say you and I are the same?
Uh, yeah, just about.
Like, categorically, yeah.
Of course, there are always differences between, like, individuals, like, height, weight, stuff like that, like...
But is there anything fundamentally different than us, between us?
Um...
Uh, like height, hair color, stuff like that.
Nothing else?
Like, one or two, like features here or there.
Like?
Uh.
I've had two children.
Yeah.
That's a fundamental difference between us.
Because I'm a woman.
I've had two children.
I've kind of already grown a decuff naturally.
What's your name?
Joyla.
Joyla.
Okay, what's your major?
Studio art.
What job are we getting with that?
Uh, I'm thinking I wanted to go into graphic design, uh, my...
Sorry.
Don't want anyone to run into you.
I think I'm going to go into the same field that my older brother's boyfriend is in.
It would be nice to have like a member of someone close by who knows the ins and outs of the field and stuff.
Absolutely.
We're asking students today if they could tell us what they think about Donald Trump's job so far eight months into his second term.
Pretty bad.
I think I was never on his side to begin with and I think a lot of people are especially pissed off after how he dealt with the whole Epstein file thing.
Yeah.
And obviously a lot of things that he's done and stood for aren't good for me personally.
Go on.
Just like.
Since the kind of the inception of his campaign all the way back when I was man, I was 15 at the time.
Crazy.
But yeah.
What's not good for you?
I don't know.
think social climate wise very polarizing not a great just doesn't like feel feels like the Republican Party kind of became like his whole thing Okay, but why isn't it good for you?
You said it wasn't good for you personally.
In what way?
I mean...
Kind of not the easiest.
Uh, like, I mean, obviously, okay.
So to stop beating around the bush, obviously the trans thing, it makes that harder.
It makes it harder for you to do what?
Basically, like getting the care that I need to live life comfortably and all that.
Realization Of Identity 00:02:44
He has made it harder.
How has Donald Trump made that harder?
So when I go in to get like the stuff that I need in other states, it's basically you just take the informed consent one time.
It covers everything and you don't really have to worry about it for that much.
But now because of a lot of the stuff he's doing, I have to go.
Every time anything new gets added, I have to go through the whole rigor morole of talking to the psychiatrist, going through them, paying like high premiums.
What age were you when you first started taking, I'm guessing, hormones?
Yeah, I was 20 at the time.
Okay.
How old were you when you realized that, what, you weren't a man?
I was about around 22 of the same age.
But it was around 18 that I really knew, but I didn't really start the process until a few years later.
And what kind of things did you have access to, or what kind of media did you consume that helped you realize that you were a woman?
I don't know if it was a media thing, but more so an internal realization, you know?
Like viewing the world around me and the way I fit into it, sort of, it was like kind of a self-realization thing.
I don't, like, of course, seeing people represented on TV is good, but I don't think it was the be-all-end-all make-or-break moment or anything.
When did you realize you were a woman?
I think it was sometime during 2020, around the time lockdown and all that, I had more time for myself to, like, think.
And at some point, I came to the realization that the way, like, the mold that I was kind of pushed into due to like the way I was born wasn't really how I saw myself and I wasn't like happy or content being that way.
So it's hard to pin down to just one singular like Eureka moment, but it does come as like a very gradual thing.
Pretending to Be Black 00:09:18
Okay.
So you would say, because I'm a woman, you would say you and I are the same?
Yeah, just about.
Like, categorically, yeah.
Of course, there are always differences between like individuals, like height, weight, stuff like that.
But is there anything fundamentally different than us between us?
Uh, like height, hair color, stuff like that.
Nothing else?
Like, one or two, like, features here or there.
Like.
I mean, well, obviously there's the matter of, like, like, develop, like, uh, how the bodies develop, uh, like, uh, what gentility people are born with, stuff like that.
Uh, and yeah, I've had two children.
That's a fundamental difference between us.
Because I'm a woman.
I've had two children.
Yeah, there are ways that, like, uh, of course, I couldn't, like, get.
Actually, wait.
I think somewhere they actually have successfully managed to implant a womb into a trans woman.
Like, had a net.
I could look that up right now, but science.
Tell me how a trans woman would give birth to a child with an implanted womb.
Uh, yeah, wait, let me look it up right now.
It's not possible.
Wait.
Where is... This...
And...
That's not possible.
I'm pretty sure I saw a story.
That's not possible.
I'm pretty sure I saw a story.
It's not possible to do that.
Little miracle.
Oh, yeah.
April 7th, 2025.
First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb.
To a woman with a transplanted womb?
Yeah.
A woman, not a man.
Well, yeah.
Transgender women now see hope that they could one day become pregnant despite having would you like to do that one day?
I'm not sure if I want kids, uh, but I like the option being there potentially, even if it's not like a thing that can happen right now in a decade or so when the medical science behind it gets better.
I like that the option could be there for people who do want to.
So that's yeah, like parenthood isn't for every individual.
Like, there are, of course, like cis cis men and women who never want to have kids.
What is a cis woman?
Uh, it's someone who's like assigned gender.
Basically, like if you identify as a woman and were born like with like uterus stuff like that, even though there's some variants because there are intersex people who are born with like a mixture of different parts, but it would be like basically you, right?
Because you identify with she, her pronouns.
I am a woman because I was born a woman.
I can't be anything other than a woman.
I mean.
If I looked at you and I said, I'm black, would you be okay with that?
Well, on a fundamental level, I think, like the way gender goes.
So, the way race goes.
I'm black.
Would I be able to get access to scholarships for black people?
Would I have access to black-only dorms?
Would I have access to things in this country that are set aside just for black people?
Would you feel comfortable with that?
Fundamentally, I feel like race and gender aren't really in categories where that like.
Would you be okay with that?
I don't know if race dysphoria is like a thing in the sand.
Would you be okay if I identified as black and I started going into black spaces, claiming to be black, and then taking the opportunities that are there for black people?
That kind of already yes or no.
Let's be honest, you wouldn't be okay with that because I'm not black, right?
The thing is.
Am I black?
Am I black?
I don't really think race.
Am I black?
From what I see, no.
Why am I not black?
I mean, shoot, I can't always tell.
It's possible that you're like, I don't know, black passing or something.
Am I black passing?
Comment below if you think I'm black passing.
I have blonde hair, blue eyes.
I get so burnt if I'm out in the sun for like 10 minutes.
I'm not black, and you know that I'm not black.
And you know why I'm not black?
Because I'm not black.
I'm white.
Do you think though I'm asking this question is because I don't think men should be coming into my spaces.
Do you use the women's restroom in places where I feel safe doing so?
What do you say to the women, maybe even students on this campus who don't want you to do that?
I haven't encountered any.
But what would you say?
Do you belong in those women's spaces?
I'm welcomed there by do you belong there?
Yeah, I'm welcomed.
Like, my experience using the women's bathroom here has been people are very friendly.
People will compliment me on my makeup, my boots, like different stuff that I wear.
People are very friendly and accommodating.
Okay.
So, like, hasn't been an issue for me.
Okay.
I hope it's never particularly an issue for you, but I hope you stop doing that Because you shouldn't be going into the women's restroom.
You shouldn't be doing that.
It would be a bit odd for someone with, it would be a bit odd for someone full face of makeup with like.
I also don't think you should do that.
I've kind of already grown a D-cup naturally, so it's...
wasn't natural that you grew that?
It was hormones in my own body that kind of You injected hormones into your body that made you do that.
And you were born perfectly.
The way you were born was perfect.
There was nothing wrong with you.
You were perfect the way you came out of your mother's womb.
Thank you, but also.
You're welcome.
Like, I mean, the cameraman's wearing glasses.
That implies that there was something like there was something that they noticed.
Like, oh, my quality of life would be way better if something was changed.
And so they went out, did something to change it, i.e. getting the glasses.
Yeah.
And there are people out there who, like, you know, sometimes they're balding and they take stuff to make sure that they don't go bald.
Right.
People getting like dental correct.
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
And so my husband wearing glasses is just acknowledging that he has poor eyesight and he needs help perfecting that eyesight.
You taking hormones and pretending to be a woman does not sit there and say, oh, I have trouble with who I was born.
I want to perfect the person I know that I was born as and I want to be a, I want to know myself better as who God made me.
You were pretending to be someone that you're not.
My husband isn't pretending to have 20-20 vision.
You're pretending to be a woman.
I was pretending.
I was like very much pretending to be a man for those first 22 years.
I am so sorry that you feel that way and there was no one in your community that could affirm you and who you are and who you were.
But I will say, I am so sick of men going into women's spaces if I'm being honest.
And I would ask you to quit going into women's bathrooms and stop acting like we're the same because we're not the same.
but I wish nothing but the best for you.
What do you think about trans men being forced?
There's no such thing.
Trans men's bathrooms.
Trans men being forced?
Because, like, okay, let's say a guy takes hormones, like, he starts to grow a beard and all that.
He was born a woman, but because of this, he's made to go into a women's bathroom, even though...
Yeah, so it should have been illegal for him to even take any of that stuff, because he's not a woman.
Or what are you talking about?
A man?
A woman.
Yeah, so it should have been illegal for her to take any of that.
I'm going to move on to other people and potentially get going home.
But I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me.
You're perfect the way that you were born.
And that is who you're meant to be.
So a quick call to action.
And actually, you guys will like this one.
I just want to pray for that young man.
I'm going to ask you guys right now, even pause the video, say a quick prayer for him.
Say a Hail Mary.
He was born perfect the way he was born.
And unfortunately, he didn't have anybody either praying for him or affirming him and that and helping him through his masculinity.
So we're going to pray for him.
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