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Aug. 31, 2025 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
15:05
Trans Student Tells Mom: We're The Same
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So you would say because I'm a woman.
You would say you and I are the same.
Uh yeah, just about.
Like categorically, yeah.
Of course there are always differences between like individuals, like height, weight, stuff like that.
Like But is there anything fundamentally different than us between us?
Uh like height, hair color, stuff like that.
Nothing else.
Like one or two like features here or there.
Like uh I've had two children.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a fundamental difference between us.
Because I'm a woman.
I've had two children.
I've kind of already grown a decuff naturally.
What's your name?
Uh Joila.
Joila.
Okay.
What's your major?
Uh studio art.
Studio art.
What job are we getting with that?
Uh I'm thinking I wanted to go into graphic design.
Uh my sorry.
Don't want anyone to run into you.
Uh I think I'm gonna go into the same field that my older brother's boyfriend is in.
Uh it would be nice to have like a member of uh like someone close by who knows the ins and outs of the field and stuff.
Absolutely.
We're asking students today if they could tell us what they think about Donald Trump's job so far eight months into his second term.
Uh pretty bad.
I think uh I was never on his side to begin with, and I think a lot of people are especially pissed off after how he dealt with the whole Epstein File thing.
Yeah.
Uh and uh obviously a lot of things that he's done and stood for aren't good for me personally.
Go on.
Uh just like uh since the kind of the inception of his campaign all the way back when I was man, I was fifteen at the time.
Crazy.
But yeah, uh what's not good for you?
Uh I don't know.
I think social climate wise, very polarizing.
Uh not a great just doesn't like feel feels like the Republican Party kind of became like his whole thing.
Okay, but why isn't it good for you?
You said it wasn't good for you personally, in what way uh I mean not the easiest like
you're gonna be.
I mean obviously, okay.
So to stop beating around the bush, obviously the trans thing, it makes that harder.
Uh it makes it harder for you to do what?
Uh basically like getting the care that I need to live life comfortably and all that.
Uh he has made it harder.
How has Donald Trump made that harder?
So when I go in to get like the stuff that I need in other states, it's basically you just take the con informed consent one time, it covers everything, and you don't really have to worry about it for that much.
But now because of the uh a lot of the stuff he's doing, I have to go every time anything new gets added, I have to go through the whole rigor moral of talking to the psychiatrist, going through them, paying like high premiums, uh what age were you when you first started taking uh I'm guessing hormones?
Uh yeah, I was uh twenty two.
Yeah, twenty-two at the time.
Okay.
And how old were you when you realized that what you weren't a man?
Uh I was about uh around yeah, around twenty-two the same age.
But it was around eighteen that I really knew, but I didn't really start the process until like a few years later.
Okay.
And what kind of things did you have access to or what kind of media did you consume that helped you realize that you were a woman.
Uh I don't hmm.
I don't know if it was a media thing, but more so an internal realization, you know?
Like viewing the world around me and the way I fit into it.
Uh sort of it was like kind of a self-realization thing.
I don't like of course seeing people represented on TV is good.
Uh but I don't think it was the be all in all make or break moment or anything.
When did you realize you were a woman?
Uh interest.
I think it was sometime during 2020, around the time lockdown and all that, I had more time for myself to like think.
And at some point I came to the realization that the way like the mold that I was kind of pushed into like the way I was born wasn't really how I saw myself, and I wasn't like happy or content being that way.
Uh so it's hard to pin down to just one singular like Eureka moment, but it it does come as like a very gradual thing.
Okay.
So you would say, because I'm a woman.
You would say you and I are the same.
Uh yeah, just about.
Like, categorically, yeah.
Of course, there are always differences between like individuals, like height, weight, stuff like that.
Like but is there anything fundamentally different than us between us?
Uh like height, hair color, stuff like that.
Nothing else.
Like one or two like features here or there.
Like uh, I mean, well, obviously there's the matter of like develop like uh how the bodies develop, uh like uh what genitalia people are born with, stuff like that.
Uh and yeah, I've had two children.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a fundamental difference between us.
Because I'm a woman.
I've had two children.
Uh yeah, there are ways that like uh of course I couldn't like get actually wait.
I think somewhere they actually have successfully managed to implant a womb into a trans woman and like had a map.
I could look that up right now, but science is.
Tell me how a trans woman would give birth to a child with an implanted womb.
Uh yeah, wait, let me look it up right now.
It's not possible.
Wait, birth.
Anyway.
That's not possible.
It's not possible to do that.
A little miracle.
Oh yeah, April 7th, 2025.
First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb.
To a woman with a transplanted womb.
Yeah.
A woman, not a man.
Well, yeah.
Transgender woman now see hope that they could one day become pregnant despite having a children.
Would you like to do that one day?
I'm not sure if I want kids.
Uh but I like the option being there potentially, even if it's not r uh like a thing that can happen right now in a decade or so when the medical science behind it gets better.
I like that the option could be there for people who do want to.
Uh so that's yeah, like parenthood isn't for every individual.
Like, they're of course like cis cis men and women who never want to have kids.
What is a cis woman?
Uh, it's someone who's like assigned gender.
Basically, like if you identify as a woman and were born like with uh like uterus stuff like that, it even though there's some variants because there are intersex people who are born with like a mixture of different parts, but it would be like Uh basically you, right?
Because you identify with she, her pronouns and I am a woman because I was born a woman.
I can't be anything other than a woman.
I mean if I looked at you and I said, I'm black, would you be okay with that?
Well, if on a fundamental level, I think, like the way gender goes to the body.
The way kids and race goes.
I'm black.
Would I be able to get access to scholarships for black people?
Would I have access to black only dorms?
Would I have access to things in this country that are set aside just for black people?
Would you feel comfortable with that?
Fundamentally, I feel like race and gender aren't really in categories where that like.
Would you be okay with that?
I don't know if race dysphoria is like a thing in the same.
Would you be okay if I identified as black and I started going into black spaces, claiming to be black, and then taking the opportunities that are there for black people.
That kind of already Yes or no.
Uh let's be honest, you wouldn't be okay with that, because I'm not black, right?
The thing is Am I black?
Am I black?
I don't really think ri Am I black.
From what I see, no.
How why am I not black?
Uh I mean, shoot, I'm can't always tell.
It's possible that you're like, I don't know, black passing or something.
Am I black passing?
Comment below if you think I'm black passing.
I have blonde hair, blue eyes.
I get so burnt if I'm out in the sun for like 10 minutes.
I'm not black, and you know that I'm not black.
And you know why I'm not black?
Because I'm not black.
I'm white.
But do you think though I'm asking this question is because I don't think men should be coming into my spaces.
Do you use the women's restroom?
Uh in places where I feel safe doing so.
What do you say to the women, maybe even students on this campus who don't want you to do that?
I haven't encountered any, like, what would you say?
Do you belong in those women's spaces?
I'm welcomed there by a do you belong there?
Yeah.
I'm welcomed.
Like my experience using the women's bathroom here has been people are very friendly.
People will compliment me on like my makeup, my boots, like different stuff that I wear.
People are very friendly and accommodating.
Okay.
Uh so like hasn't been an issue for me.
Okay.
I hope it's never particularly an issue for you.
Um, but I hope you stop doing that.
Because you shouldn't be going into the women's restroom.
You shouldn't be doing that.
It would be a bit odd for someone with it would be a bit odd for someone full face of makeup with like I also don't think you should do that.
I've kind of already grown a D cup naturally, so it's It wasn't natural that you grew that.
It was hormones in my own body that kind of you injected hormones into your body that made you do that, and you were born perfectly.
The way you were born was perfect.
There was nothing wrong with you.
You were perfect the way you came out of your mother's womb.
Why thank you, but also You're welcome.
Like, I mean, the cameraman's wearing glasses.
That implies that there was something like there was something that they noticed, like, oh, my life quality of life would be way better if I something was changed.
And so they went out, did something to change it, i.e.
getting the glasses.
Yeah.
And there are people out there who like, you know, sometimes they're balding and they take stuff to make sure that they don't go bald.
Right.
Uh people getting like dental correct correct uh I know what you're saying.
And so my husband wearing glasses is just acknowledging that he has poor eyesight and he needs help perfecting that eyesight.
You taking hormones and pretending to be a woman does not sit there and say, oh, I have trouble with who I was born.
I want to perfect the person I know that I was born as, and I want to be a I want to know myself better as who God made me.
You were pretending to be someone that you're not.
My husband isn't pretending to be have 2020 vision.
I don't know.
I was pretending I was like very much pretending to be a man for those first 22 years.
I am so sorry that you feel that way.
And there was no one in your community that could affirm you and who you are and who you were.
But I will say, I am so sick of men going into women's spaces, if I'm being honest.
And I would ask you to quit going into women's bathrooms.
I feel like stop acting like we're the same, because we're not the same.
But I wish nothing but the best for you.
And um What do you think about trans men being forced to be able to do it?
There's no such women's bathrooms.
Because like, okay, let's say a guy takes hormones, like uh he starts to grow a beard and all that.
He was born a woman, but because of this, he's made to go into uh women's bathroom even though.
Yeah, so it should have been illegal for him to even take any of that stuff.
Because he's not a woman.
Or what are you talking about?
A man uh a woman.
Yeah, so it should have been illegal for her to take any of that.
I'm gonna move on to other people and uh potentially go get going home.
But I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me.
You're perfect the way that you were born, and that is who you're meant to be.
So a quick call to action, and actually you guys will like this one.
I just want to pray for that young man.
I'm gonna ask you guys right now, uh even pause the video, say a quick prayer for him, say hail Mary.
Um he was born perfect the way he was born, and unfortunately he didn't have anybody either praying for him or affirming him and that and helping him through his masculinity.
Um we're gonna pray for him.
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