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Feb. 21, 2025 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
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College Dem Says Craziest Thing Ever!
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I agree with the Second Amendment.
I agree and I believe in self-defense.
I believe in the right to own a gun and defend yourself as you.
You believe in self-defense?
Is abortion not a form of self-defense?
If something is attacking your body or attacking your right to live or your ability to live, do you not have the right to defend yourself?
About like a right to an abortion and DEI and affirmative action, especially going to a public school, especially in Florida, a super Republican state.
Like I think a lot of people will look at me and think that like I'm unqualified or I live in the ghetto or like I don't know what I'm talking about just because I'm black.
I'm a woman.
I must be unqualified.
But like I'm a mechanical engineering major.
I help tutor like everybody I know.
I've volunteered at church camps every summer for like the past 10 years.
Like I'm a very good person.
I think I'm pretty educated.
But I know there's so many like schools and places of employment that will look at me and just be like you're unqualified because you're black and you're a woman, even if I have the same exact resume as other people applying who actually got the job just because they're white or because they're a male or because they fit the stereotypical customer service worker.
And I just don't think it's fair.
I think DEI should be a thing that should be implemented all over the country.
I think it's something that's based off our Constitution and diversity and inclusion.
I would much rather talk about your stance on abortion.
On abortion?
Yes.
How do you feel about abortion?
I am anti-abortion.
I am anti-abortion.
In all cases.
Okay, why are you anti-abortion?
Because I believe life begins at conception.
Really?
And so that is a human being and human beings deserve rights.
Every single person in the world deserves rights beginning at conception because they are genetically and biologically human beings.
So what are some other options you would suggest to somebody who's looking to have an abortion so I can understand where you're coming from?
Yes, so first of all, I don't think that the option to have an abortion should ever even legally be allowed.
I don't think it should be.
No cases at all.
Right.
And no, can you hold that for me?
Thank you.
Yeah, no cases at all.
There's never a medically necessary reason to have an abortion.
That's right.
Yeah, at all.
At all.
I have a question though.
Do you believe in the Second Amendment?
I do.
Do you own a gun?
Several.
Okay.
So why do you believe in the Second Amendment?
Considering the fact that the most children deaths in America are from gun violence.
No, it's actually from abortion.
currently is not Yeah, so the Gutmacker Institute, which is the research arm of Planned Parenthood, they put out statistics for how many abortions are committed by Planned Parenthood.
And generally, from abortion clinics, we don't have the data from everyone, but the data that we do have shows that nearly a million children every year are aborted in this country.
How many deaths are carried out?
How many homicides are carried out via guns?
At this time, I can't say the exact statistic, but if she continues to talk, I can look for it out for you.
Yeah, so it's about 13,000 people are killed by the use of firearms.
3 million lives every year are actually saved due to defensive use of firearms.
So actually the Second Amendment, I'll get to you.
The Second Amendment actually saves lives and pro-life laws save lives too.
Okay, I agree.
I agree with the Second Amendment.
I agree.
I believe in self-defense.
I believe in the right to own a gun and defend yourself, as do you.
You believe in self-defense?
Is abortion not a form of self-defense?
If something is attacking your body or attacking your right to live or your ability to live, do you not have the right to defend yourself?
How is a baby in the womb doing that?
There's so many illnesses that are like more common when you're pregnant.
There's so many issues.
Like pregnancies are such a dangerous thing.
And abortions aren't just like willy-nilly.
You stick a firearm up your uterus and the baby's gone.
It's painful.
The process is extensive.
You can bleed for almost a month afterwards.
It's painful.
It's disgusting.
Like it's not.
And the people who work at the abortion clinics, they go up, when you go in, they give you an ultrasound of your baby.
You know that there's something inside of you.
And they give you, they show you the process of how they're about to abort your baby.
It's they typically do not do that.
Okay, if they don't do that, that's on them.
But like, it's not an easy process.
It's painful.
It hurts.
It lasts.
Sounds like something that shouldn't be a choice for women to engage in.
So is murder.
So is self-defense.
And that's illegal.
It's illegal to kill someone else.
And I'm just saying, you should take the laws.
I don't kill people.
Okay, but you own a gun.
Just owning a gun does not make me a murder.
you own a gun, that way if somebody comes into your house and somebody's like attacking your right to live, if somebody comes to you and comes up to you at gunpoint and says they're going to kill your whole family, you have the right to use self-defense and defend yourself against them, which is why most people own a gun in case of these situations.
Although, this, like, not every pregnancy is super dangerous where it's affecting your right to live, but you should have that opportunity where if that baby is going to affect your right to live, you should have the ability to abort it and to get rid of it.
And unfortunately, we live in a country where adoption, like the adoption system in the U.S., isn't the greatest.
It's not, like, it's so hard for children to get adopted, especially teenagers.
Okay, so let's focus on one thing at a time because now you're talking about adoption, but let's talk about threatening someone's right to live.
So the womb is the only organ that is made for someone else.
A woman does not need her womb to live.
That is an organ only for someone else to develop and grow in.
That's the purpose of it.
So that's where if a baby is in a womb, that's where they're meant to be.
Now, there are cases where pregnancies are really risky and sometimes life-threatening.
In that case, I fully support a woman doing what she needs to do for her health and her body, and that does not include purposely killing the child inside of her.
So, for example, if a woman needs cancer treatment while she's pregnant, she has the right to try and mitigate the cancer and treat the cancer.
Now, a side effect of the cancer drugs might be that it causes a miscarriage or a stillbirth.
That is a decision that she, you can't mandate someone to, you know, go through with an illness to protect someone else.
That's not what we're saying.
But I'm saying that if a woman is at risk, she is able to deal with her, her medical ailments.
Now, that does not mean, hold on, that does not mean that a baby can be intentionally killed.
And I know you're probably talking about ectopic pregnancies, or maybe you're talking about, you know, mental health or things like that.
Your view, you've already said that there should be no abortion no matter what the option is.
Yes.
And you saying that if somebody has cancer and needs to treat their cancer, but therefore that treatment is going to end up taking the life of whatever is in their womb, the child or how you perceive it to be.
And in my opinion, I do agree to a certain extent that abortion should be cut off at a certain point.
I haven't gone, like, this is, for me, I haven't like gone too much like into abortion, but I do believe that at a certain point, it shouldn't be allowed.
Okay.
But where you're coming from is that if she needed that treatment, she can't save herself because that child is in her womb.
And I just don't think that's fair because...
Can I clarify?
So a cancer treatment does not require first stopping the heartbeat of a child and it doesn't involve taking abortion pills that would expel the dead baby from the woman.
That's not how a cancer treatment would work.
So there is no intentional killing of the child.
There is treatment of the mother.
You said initially you said that if the treatment itself has a side effect where it could lead to a miscarriage.
It could.
It could.
So then I don't know.
Because we're not intentionally killing.
So the cancer treatment isn't to kill the child.
I understand, but in your case, if that would lead, if that would lead to it, though, you're not an abortion.
But regardless, there's maternal illnesses, paternal illnesses that when you're pregnant, you will die if you go through with the birth of your baby.
That's just science, regardless if you.
What are you talking about?
What examples?
I can look them up for you, but I'm saying there's exactly, like, I don't know the exact names of them.
I'm a mechanical engineering major.
I don't know the exact, but I know for a fact that there's things.
Pregnancies for the babies growing outside of the uterus.
Yes.
Yes.
So an ectopic pregnancy can actually be dealt with in a very pro-life manner.
So we are not going in there with the intention, we are going in there with the intention of saving the mother's life by cutting out Wait, she made a good point.
And so if you want me to talk to her.
We can end the conversation here and I can talk to her instead, but I'm telling you about ectopic pregnancies.
There's a pro-life way to deal with those and that is to go in without the intentional, the intentional killing of a child.
So we're not there to kill the child.
We're there to remove the ectopic, the tube that is affected and will kill the mother if it is not dealt with.
That is unfortunate and such an awful, awful thing for a woman to deal with.
But it is not an abortion because it is not the intentional killing of a child.
I guess we might differ on what we consider an abortion.
An abortion, by definition, is the intentional killing of a child in the womb.
That's what it's for.
Can you explain one more time how you would go about fixing an atopic pregnancy?
So it's an ectopic pregnancy.
It actually has its own term.
It's an own medical term.
It's not an abortion.
We're not going and they're not giving the woman pills to first poison the baby and starve the baby and make the baby come out of the uterus and dead on the floor.
That's not what's happening.
They're going in there surgically to remove that portion of the tube that has been unfortunately carrying a dead baby.
You guys aren't letting me care.
It unfortunately is.
And sometimes they can take that baby and implant the baby back into the uterus and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
There are very, very grave things that happen to people that are very, very tragic.
An ectopic pregnancy is one of them.
Curing or treating an ectopic pregnancy, I forget the term, it has its own separate term, but it is not an abortion because the intention is not to kill the baby.
The intention is to remove that part of the tube.
Okay, but unfortunately, in like the, but the governments that you support, they're putting in place a system where if you have an ectopic pregnancy, sometimes you don't even know you're having that and you need medical care for that.
The state is legally obligated to be like, oh no, that's not true.
We can't do that.
There is no state that has enacted pro-life laws that said an ectopic pregnancy cannot be treated.
That is not true.
That's not true at all.
Okay, I can look that up, but I'm just not true.
But ectopic pregnancies aren't the only issues.
Okay, there's nine and ten-year-olds who are getting raped.
You think they should go through and have a baby at nine years old?
I don't think a nine-year-old should have a baby, but I don't think killing a person and for the crimes of their father is the way we go.
That is a disgusting, that is a disgusting, disgusting scenario that is very tragic to happen.
But that also accounts for less than half percent of all reported abortions.
That case that you're talking about, that you're using a lot of emotional appeal to because it's such a disgusting situation, is not the majority of abortions.
And so if we can agree that abortions should be banned in every single circumstance except for a nine-year-old getting raped, could we agree to that?
No, because I feel I still feel like there's situations where an abortion is necessary.
If you're not financially responsible to take care of your child, like and you have no other option, a pregnancy is also really expensive.
To actually take care and have your baby, you have to change the way you eat.
You have to change the way you live.
You have to change the way you exercise.
Like there's, it takes a lot of effort and money.
If you don't have that financial stability to go through with the pregnancy, your baby's going to die anyways.
No, they're not going to die.
Babies are very resilient.
Pregnant women are very resilient.
I don't know where you get that from.
Pregnancy isn't scary like that.
I've gone through two pregnancies and they're not scary like that.
There's some people who are very infertile.
It's very difficult for them to be able to do that.
And on top of that, if you get pregnant, you have an obligation to that child now.
You have an obligation.
You have an obligation.
I don't know why women are not told in this country that if you get pregnant with a child, you have an obligation to step up because you are a mother and you have invited that person into your body and to be pregnant.
Not in the cases of rape, of course, but it's still a good thing.
I'm going to pregnancy something really quick because I've been trying to.
Clearly, you're educated on the topic, evidently.
And then I, and like, I'm not going to take that away from you.
And there are some things that I, like, listening to you guys speak, like, clearly I feel uneducated on the topic.
And like, I, no, no, no.
I listening to both of you.
So I just, I just want to put out there that I don't really, I don't really want to comment too much, but I do feel like there's a little bit of holes in but like just listening to you guys speak, I feel like there's holes on both sides because I don't know, I just feel like when it comes to your point about the cancer treatment and what's going on with laws that I may need to look into, but from what I've read or seen on the news or on the internet, I just feel like there's a couple holes.
And then also, from listening to her aspect, I can see that you also believe that there's holes in her argument.
But I feel like abortion is such a touchy subject because at the end of the day, nobody, no one person or maybe a group of people here and there, nobody really knows what a child is at a certain point.
Well, a lot of people, and from what I've seen, a lot of scientists believe that life starts at sentience.
And then I also see from a religious aspect that life, as soon as implantation happens into the womb, then that's when life starts.
So I feel like until we actually get an understanding from both sides, the scientific side, but also the religious aspect, there really won't be too much of an agreement on how abortion is going to work.
And I feel like that, I really feel like that that's the end of the conversation because until we all agree, until we figure out combined science and religion, then like it can't be more one way and more the other way.
But like, I really don't feel like this conversation is going to go any, like just from listening to you.
No, but I do have to point out, if you were driving down the street and someone jumped out or a figure jumped out and you thought it was a person, you'd slam on the brakes, right?
Because you would be concerned, like, oh, that might be a person.
I don't want to hit it.
Hold on, let me regardless if something popped out.
Exactly.
Anything would pop out.
A cat, turtle, butterfly, what have you.
We should also take that same caution when talking about children in the womb and abortion.
If we don't know, if we do not know for certain if an embryo at six days old is a person, we don't know for sure, we should probably, you know, go on the side of caution and safety and say, well, maybe we shouldn't be possibly committing a grave genocide, the worst genocide in all of history against these little people.
And I guess, I don't know, for me, and if that's how you feel, I just really feel like this is something that's really, that's going to stick with you forever.
And this is like how you're going to feel about the topic.
And I don't really think from my perspective that I can change your mind.
So I probably can.
No one can change my mind on that.
And that's completely fine.
And to each person, and that's what our country is built on is having different perspectives on everything.
So I personally kind of want to step away from this conversation.
Thank you for talking to me.
But because I, well, I don't.
Yeah, if we were talking about something like immigration or economy, that's something that I'm better at.
We all have our passions and we all have to support my company.
That's a good friend right there.
Yeah, we'll wrap up here in a little bit because ironically, I do have two little babies to get home to that are waiting for me.
But yeah, kind of like any indie.
Can I just ask you a similar question though?
You said if you see a person in the street, if you see a dog in the street, you see something, you're just slamming your brakes, right?
Yeah.
If you see an ant on the street, no, if an ant's crossing the street while you're driving and accidentally run over it, is that your fault?
Can you see the ant on the street?
Yep.
Nope.
Can't see the ant.
If you have a cryptic pregnancy and you have zero signs that you're pregnant, is that your fault for not being able to stop and slam on the brakes and say, oh, there's a baby in me.
Let me figure out how to take care of this.
If you go 30 plus weeks, not even having any signs that you're pregnant at all, and then finally you go to the doctor one day and they're like, oh yeah, you have a baby inside of you and you have to give birth and now you have less than five to ten weeks to figure out how to go about that and figure out what to do all of a sudden and you have a fully functioning baby inside of your body.
What are you supposed to do in that case?
It's not your fault you didn't see the ant on the road as you ran over them.
Yeah, I've never been asked that question, but I'm glad you did.
So if you have a cryptic pregnancy where you don't know that you are pregnant, which very rarely happens, but it does happen, you have a couple of choices.
There are a lot of couples in this country who are waiting to adopt a newborn baby.
They're just waiting.
They're ready and they're Waiting to adopt a newborn baby.
You could go down that route.
You can contact adoption agencies.
I know a lot of churches do, a lot of Catholic adoption agencies as well.
You can go through.
Or you can say, well, this is my baby.
And I have five to ten weeks.
I'm going to rally my support system.
If I don't have a lot of support, I'm going to figure it out because I'm smart, because I'm strong, because I love my baby and I'm responsible.
And I brought this child into the world through my own means.
And so I'm going to pull myself up by the bootstraps, as the older generation would say, and they're going to take care of the baby, which is what they should do.
And I don't think a lot of women are told that woman up, take care of your child, and you'll be okay.
You have support and you can do it because women are very, very strong and resilient in this country.
We don't give them a lot of credit.
No, I know.
I agree.
I don't think abortion should be your first option.
I think you should assess how financially and mentally stable you are to take care of this future child.
But at the same time, if that family isn't financially stable to go to the hospital, pay the ambulance fees.
Hospital bills are expensive.
We live in America.
Medicare is not free.
It's not cheap at all.
It's really expensive.
My mom got in a car crash last week and it was $30,000 to just get evaluated.
Just to see that.
That's insane.
So if you're not financially able to go to the hospital and deal with these fees, what do you do?
Okay.
So then you say, oh, let me put my baby up for adoption.
You know how much of a mental strain that is?
You know what I mean?
Then she can keep it.
But if she can't financially keep it, what is she to do?
She can.
Because any woman, women.
The baby and the mother.
You know what screws over the baby is being separated from his or her mother.
That's what screws over a baby.
That's why surrogacy.
That's what.
I don't.
I don't agree in just going to adoption.
See, you're asking me what are her options.
That's an option.
I don't agree in just, oh, just go to adoption.
No, I think first we should support women and tell them that they're going to be okay.
Being a mother is a blessing and people are going to rally around and support you and you should take care of this child because this child knows no one but you.
That's why I have such an issue with surrogacy.
We should be keeping mothers and their children together.
That's what we should be doing first.
And then in extreme cases, adoption.
So I'm not one of the conservatives that are like, oh, just throw the baby up for adoption.
No.
We should be trying to get that woman in a safe and stable environment and building her up, knowing that she has support to keep her baby, take care of her baby well, and help her.
Women in this country are not afforded what generations past has been, which is literally having a support system of women and other people to help raise their children and give them help.
We are really lacking in that department here in this country.
And another solution would be, you know, our government should step in and have more programs for mothers.
I 100% believe in taxpayer-funded programs to help mothers keep their babies and be stable in that.
I also believe corporations should be required to give at least a year off for maternity leave for their children and postpartum leave as well.
So that's what we should.
And we should have free lactation services.
We should have free childbirth services.
So we need more of that.
And tell women that they're going to have to keep their baby.
You voted for Trump there, right?
I did.
Did he not just say that we need to get rid of federal funding?
stuff like fafsa medicare social security this is all federal funding that you just said that you believe in and that you just said that the government so i Just mothers.
No, I didn't say that, but this is what we're specifically talking about.
I don't believe in everything that the government is funding should be funded.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that millions of dollars should be going to Nepal to talk about Sesame Street and stuff like that.
I don't believe in that.
I believe in helping Americans here and specifically mothers because mothers and postpartum women are treated very, very poorly in this country by our programs and our laws.
So that should be number one.
But yeah, that's what I mean.
I'm not saying that I support all kinds of funding and programs and stuff like that.
But there's a lot that we could talk about.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, she's like, get out of here.
Sorry.
Do you have enough room for one more interview?
I'll be really quick.
Do we or should we get that?
I can be like five minutes less.
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It's about the band.
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