You're not going to give me this oppression bullsh ⁇ .
None of us, nobody's oppressed.
Statues teach us history.
If anything, if people have people, somebody who they think should be memorialized, we should build more statues.
Once you start damaging property, you're going to get the bad reputation.
You're going to get the wrong message being said.
This is the last stand.
This is the ancient city.
We've been here since 1565, and we're going to keep fighting for our city.
So St. Augustine officials have voted to remove on Monday the Confederate statue.
Have you seen it all boarded up over there?
No, I've not seen it just yet.
Yeah, so if you go down St. George Street in the plaza, it's all boarded up.
You can't see anything on it because they're removing it.
What do you think about that?
Well, if you destroy the country's history, then eventually you'll be destroying the country.
Okay.
All right.
So you don't think it should be removed?
No, of course not.
He told us that if we didn't tear down the memorial, it was going to be vengeance, violence, and they were going to come cause havoc to our city.
And we're not going to freaking stand for it.
This is the last stand.
This is the ancient city.
We've been here since 1565, and we're going to keep fighting for our city.
What do you think?
Should we remove it?
Is it racist?
Does it hurt people's feelings?
What's going on?
Absolutely not.
We have statues teach us history.
If anything, if people have somebody who they think should be memorialized, we should build more statues.
Create, you know, we can remind ourselves more about history, not take this down.
Well, I don't know too much about the actual statue itself.
I think if you want to get a statue taken out, I don't think you should just go and tear it down.
In this country, we have law and order.
I believe everyone should follow law and order.
If you want to get a statue taken down, you should go about the right progress to do so.
You shouldn't just take matters into your own hands and violently go and inflict, you know, or just cause violence and just go and cause, you know, to take out the statue.
I don't think you're going to.
Yeah, I think that it being in a safe place would be good because, you know, I mean, it's history, but I mean, I just don't agree with all the riots and stuff, like why they have to remove it.
Okay.
You know?
Do you think that they were kind of pressured to remove it or else it would be?
I think that they had to make the best decision possible.
A reverend in St. Augustine said that they're racist.
If you don't remove it, you're automatically a racist.
Do you guys agree with that notion?
I don't.
I mean, it's a statue.
It's history.
If you don't learn from your past, if you don't realize what you did right, what you did wrong, how are you ever going to know if you're doing the right thing in the future?
Like, it's history.
Don't change it.
You can't change it.
Yeah, I agree mostly.
I am torn a little bit.
I've heard it being compared to like Hitler's statues being taken down, which I think is completely different, right?
Like, get rid of Hitler.
But at the same time, like, did they do bad things?
Yes, but should they be removed?
I don't think so.
I think it's historical.
It's not racist.
There was a reverend here that basically told the city council that if you don't remove it, all of you are racist.
Is that a way that we should be getting what we want in this country by just calling people racist?
You can't just call it, you can, anybody can be racist.
Like, I don't understand why it's, I feel like it's more being put toward white people these days, the racist thing.
And I believe everybody can be racist.
It's not just white people or black people saying that white people are racist.
Everyone's racist.
Everyone can be racist.
Well, I feel like you can't really erase history.
So, I mean, if it does get removed, people are still going to remember it.
It's like, if they see where the statue used to be, they're going to think, oh, that's where the Confederate monument was.
So, I mean, it's kind of hard to erase history like that.
For one thing, it's a part of our American heritage.
So, it seems kind of silly to me to remove any historical monument.
Those men that died during the Civil War, you know, they were kind of consecrated by that monument.
And as far as the cause and as far as it being a racial thing, I mean, you need to study history.
And I don't really feel that it was such a racial issue as it's kind of made out to be.
It's sort of become a vehicle for people to create this racist like feelings, I think.
So you said if you don't take it down, if you don't vote that again, if you do not take it down, he will come through and rip the rest of stuff down.
He's going for the market, he's going to keep going, and it's going to be a giant freaking wrecking ball.
This is a living historical museum.
This is the oldest city.
This is it.
If we start wrecking stuff here, then it's just going to be a you're going to have to go for the foot soldiers, you're going to have to go for the lions, you're going to have to go for pawns, you're going to go for the Spanish Memorial.
It's the whole freaking town.
Excuse my language.
I'm really upset.
You can tell I'm really passionate about it.
But what happened when this man comes in, he incites violence, he gets the lead from BLM.
They get the lead.
He comes in, he goes, Oh, you nice people, you keep doing what you're doing.
But guess what?
We have backup now, and we're going to tear down, we're going to do whatever it takes, whatever violence or vengeance it's going to take, they're going to listen to us.
What do you think about all these super cool progressives going out there and lighting statues on fire?
They say it's racist, it hurts their feelings.
Should they grow up a little bit?
I would think so, yes.
Social progressivism, when going in the wrong direction, is just decadence, really.
I'm from originally from New York.
My ancestors fought in the Civil War for the North.
That doesn't mean that the people in the South weren't trying to be just as virtuous or protecting their own homes.
So, again, if statues to whether it be Malcolm X or Martin Luther King or anybody who they feel should be memorialized, a part of history that should be around forever, this should be more, not less.
I think that the rest of the world had already gotten over slavery, and the United States is one of the last Western countries to have slaves.
Yeah, there are still slave countries today.
Right, but it was already, I believe, it was already being going to be phased out pretty soon.
So, the whole fight in the Civil War, I think, really had a lot more to do with states' rights versus a strong federation.
Someone pointed this out to me, that instead of tearing down statues that people might find offensive, they should just erect ones that they think are good for the country, that support something that they believe in.
Do you think that's a good alternative to someone wanting to destroy a statue?
Well, alternative, I would say it would be a good addition.
Certainly, statues of Osceola and the other great fighters who were near this area.
I think that would be a better alternative.
When my kids were young, and we would go somewhere, if there's a statue, we would talk about it, whether it was a memorial, and you kind of talk about whether it be the Korean War, whether it was Martin Luther King.
No matter what it was, you're kind of forced to talk about the history around that.
I'm from Fredericksburg, Virginia, and everything around there is historic from both sides.
You kind of force through a conversation about it so that they can learn.
I don't think that any of those statues do anything to hurt anybody.
It's just remembering some people who, in this case, you know, died for something that they believed in.
Although our forefathers and ancestors weren't exactly perfect from the past, my ancestors coming from a monarch monarchy doesn't necessarily mean that we just should destroy it, lest it would be a dishonor to them, which is what I think it's really about.
It's about honor to the men who are here before us.
What do you think about all these riots that are destroying cities around the country?
Do you think they have a point to be made, or are their grievances just illegitimate?
I believe they have a point to be made.
I believe they're going about it the wrong way.
You can have free speech, but that doesn't give you the right to violate other people's properties.
That doesn't give you the right to destroy something else that's not yours.
You know, if you want to do it peacefully, do it.
You know, if you want to have your voice heard, it's a great way to have your voice heard, but once you start damaging property, you're going to get the bad reputation.
You're going to get the wrong message being sent.
Yeah, I agree.
100%.
Yeah, and I hate to say it, but like, I feel like just the lockdowns and everything have kind of made people just more anxious, losing their jobs.
I lost my job.
Luckily, I found another.
They'll thank you.
But, you know, like, I think some of those people feel helpless.
H.K. Edgerton drove all the way here.
He was in Pensacola, came in, tried to get to the meeting.
Guess who showed up?
Guess who and let him in?
Nancy Sykes playing.
You can't come in here.
You're a couple minutes late.
Okay.
So he didn't get to speak.
A black Confederate person that's trying to save our Southern heritage.
That's all we're trying to do.
We're trying to save our heritage.
We're trying to save our memorial.
You're not going to give me this oppression bullshit.
None of us, no, nobody's oppressed.
Okay?
Okay.
Seems pretty good here.
I don't know.
I don't see any oppression.
That's my opinion.
I appreciate it.
That was great for the video.
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