The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1418 Aired: 2026-05-14 Duration: 01:31:26 === Starmer's Ban on Tommy Robinson (15:13) === [00:00:00] Hello, and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters. [00:00:03] It is episode 1418. [00:00:05] I shall say no more. [00:00:06] It is Thursday, the 14th of May, year of our Lord, 2026. [00:00:12] I'm joined by Faraz. [00:00:13] Hello. [00:00:13] And special guest, Harrison Peart. [00:00:15] How do you do? [00:00:16] Thank you for coming in. [00:00:18] So, today we're going to be talking about Starmer's banning people again, as he likes to do. [00:00:23] We're going to talk about can the British state actually even be governed? [00:00:26] Because there's this whole Labour leadership thing going on, but. [00:00:30] Frankly, it doesn't really matter because countries are ungovernable with a set of assumptions it rests on. [00:00:36] And how control is breaking down. [00:00:39] Yes. [00:00:39] Yes, thank you for that. [00:00:40] That's very good. [00:00:41] So, why don't you tell us about the bans? [00:00:44] Yeah, so firstly, before we kick off, I wanted to remind everybody of the Breakfast with Bo show that you can find episodes of on YouTube and obviously on our own website. [00:00:55] Please go and check it out. [00:00:59] And there seems to be a bunch of protests planned in London that have made the government a little bit nervous, you see. [00:01:05] Because there is going to be the United Kingdom rally by Tommy Robinson, led by Tommy Robinson, on the 16th. [00:01:13] So that's two days from today. [00:01:17] But there is also a pro Palestine Nakba Day rally where a bunch of, yes, so a bunch of lefties and Muslims and assorted others are going to join together to protest in support of the Palestinians and against the state of Israel. [00:01:39] And there is also the FA Cup happening on pretty much the same day. [00:01:45] And I think it's Chelsea versus Manchester City, if I'm not mistaken. [00:01:50] Meaning that London is going to be a little bit of a nightmare. [00:01:53] Well, police are going to be a bit stretched then, aren't they? [00:01:55] Ever so slightly. [00:01:56] Ever so slightly. [00:01:58] Now, the reporting from the media is that the last United Kingdom rally had 150,000 people. [00:02:06] We know that that's. [00:02:07] Well, they always massively count those things, though. [00:02:09] Yes. [00:02:10] And the police are sending around 4,000 or 5,000 people to, officers, to keep the peace. [00:02:19] The issue seems to be that first, the attendance from GB News, they're estimating 750,000 people. [00:02:31] And the issue seems to be that the, you know, the various, Government bodies that are in charge of policing speech have decided that they're going to ban a lot of people with a focus on banning speakers that have gone to Tommy Robinson rallies. [00:02:52] I had wanted to mention that even though Tommy visited Israel a couple of times, the Jewish community in the United Kingdom protested against his visits and said that they had crossed a line that, you know, Tommy Robinson is a far right thug and he shouldn't be there. [00:03:10] But here he is, he's fighting government, they don't want going. [00:03:15] The Jewish groups don't like Tommy Robinson going to Israel, yes. [00:03:17] Oh, right. [00:03:20] Which is something that deserves mention. [00:03:21] Are you and the Restore team going to Israel for the trip? [00:03:24] No. [00:03:24] Right. [00:03:25] Okay. [00:03:25] I don't think so. [00:03:29] So, Starmer has decided that he's going to ban a bunch of people from attending to sort of highlight that free speech is alive and well in Britain. [00:03:40] And several influencers who are supposed to speak are going to be kicked out. [00:03:46] Now, it has to be said that the quality of some of the speakers that have been invited. [00:03:50] Well, that's quality, and that's quality. [00:03:53] Well, Eva, no objections to her, but say, you know, someone like this lady here, whatever her name is. [00:04:02] Oh, no, that's the one that Carl got into a Twitter spat. [00:04:06] A lot of them are just vulgar, loudmouthed, but not much to say. [00:04:09] That's exactly what I was. [00:04:10] But there is quality, though. [00:04:12] I mean, I know she got into an argument with the boss, man, but there's still quality. [00:04:15] I mean, you're thinking on different parameters there. [00:04:18] I will say a good word for Eva Vladingerbrook, though, who, as well as being a pretty young girl, is also. [00:04:24] She was trained by. [00:04:26] The legal philosopher Andreas Kinahung at the University of Leiden. [00:04:30] So she has a thing or two to say. [00:04:33] She's a serious person. [00:04:34] Serious person. [00:04:35] You do policy at Restore, don't you? [00:04:37] Can we have a policy that the quality gets in? [00:04:39] The LEG policy. [00:04:41] Yes. [00:04:41] I mean, I'm not going to vote for Restore. [00:04:44] We will. [00:04:44] But I will definitely vote for Restore if that's the policy. [00:04:46] You want to do some volunteer work? [00:04:47] You can write the paper yourself, Dan. [00:04:50] Please don't do that. [00:04:52] You will regret it. [00:04:52] You'll regret it. [00:04:53] No, I'm on the case. [00:04:55] There's another guy who said that, you know, All rape cases have become fake because Trump was somehow falsely convicted of something that he didn't do. [00:05:06] Okay, you don't want that caliber. [00:05:08] But the bans are interesting because there's a couple of things here. [00:05:13] Starmer said that he was going to do them, but then the. [00:05:18] And indeed, the bans had begun before Starmer's announcement in Ms. Gomez's case. [00:05:25] But then the Five Pillars crowd, basically the Muslim lobby, decided that they were going to speak up. [00:05:33] And they decided that they were going to take credit for the bans affecting the Tommy Robinson rally, which I thought was a bit of an interesting take. [00:05:43] Is that credible? [00:05:45] Because if we've got a Muslim organization, which are literally calling themselves the fifth column, which are saying we are stopping people who support the natives from getting into the country while literal head choppers are getting invited to Downing Street. [00:06:04] Well, that feels like a problem to me. [00:06:06] It might be a bit of an issue. [00:06:07] Yes. [00:06:08] It might be a bit of an issue, yes. [00:06:11] This is one of the editors of Five Pillars, a very, you know, it's the Muslim news network, essentially. [00:06:20] And they're saying that they were responsible for the bans affecting the Tommy Robinson rally. [00:06:26] And they were bragging about it, it seems. [00:06:29] And then he goes further and he says that since some of the speakers who were banned were going to speak, Via video link. [00:06:40] He describes the attendees as hordes of racists and Islamophobes. [00:06:44] Thank you. [00:06:47] The police and the authorities should also ban this and hold Robinson accountable and responsible if any of these hate mongers appear and commit any offenses. [00:06:58] Now, British speech laws are quite tight. [00:07:01] Yes. [00:07:01] And there's a lot of things that you can't say without risking being arrested. [00:07:05] And so this gentleman here is calling essentially. [00:07:08] For more censorship on people abroad and for Tommy Robinson to be held responsible for this. [00:07:15] And lo and behold, it seems that the Met Police is going to obey because the organizers will be held responsible, according to the Met Police, for unlawful speech. [00:07:31] Not content to replace us in our own home. [00:07:34] They also insist that we're on our best behavior as they do so. [00:07:38] Yes. [00:07:39] How these things tend to work these days. [00:07:40] Yes. [00:07:41] I'll make a quick point about. [00:07:44] One of the ironies that I see here, because civic nationalism insists on reducing nations to sets of values, it's actually very suicidal when you think about it because it means that we are duty bound to defend abstractions instead of ourselves. [00:07:56] Yes. [00:07:57] We have to write ourselves out of the story, and all of a sudden, a sort of platonic set of values become, defending those becomes patriotism rather than defending ourselves becomes patriotism. [00:08:05] And so, this is in many ways an inevitability once you are wedded to a civic nationalist conception of the nation. [00:08:12] People, outsiders who are actually very friendly to the natives, Have to be shunned because they are not sufficiently wedded and faithful to the value system. [00:08:22] To the very abstract value system that only applies in one direction. [00:08:25] Of course, yes. [00:08:27] Because the thing to note here, I think, is that firstly, there's going to be full on two tier policing. [00:08:35] The police are going to be deploying facial recognition cameras at the United Kingdom rally. [00:08:41] They will not be deploying it at the pro Palestine rally. [00:08:44] Really? [00:08:45] Yes. [00:08:46] Right, okay. [00:08:47] According to the Times. [00:08:48] According to the Times. [00:08:50] And the Times is, you know, in terms of mainstream journalism, it's pretty much as credible as it gets. [00:08:54] They might actually have to catch somebody if they take it to the Palestine rally. [00:08:58] That's the problem. [00:08:59] That's really the problem. [00:09:01] And it's worth remembering that, you know, we had Kanye West banned for his hate speech against Jews and for his artistic endeavors that were less than tasteful, shall we say. [00:09:15] This was fully endorsed by the Board of Deputies and it was welcomed that it was advocated for by the Board of Deputies. [00:09:21] But what And now the Americans are trying to make a big case out of this and to get Trump to intervene as this is a free speech case. [00:09:30] But I would say that with the Trump administration's record on policing some speech, it may or may not be a great idea to get them involved. [00:09:40] But this is happening at a time when the government is actually welcoming the ISIS returnees, shall we call them, from Syria. [00:09:49] Yes. [00:09:50] And is refusing to say whether or not the ISIS returnees are being arrested. [00:09:56] And the case that's being made for the bans on the Tommy Robinson rally are that the presence of these individuals is not conducive to the public good. [00:10:07] But we are meant to pretend that bringing back literal ISIS fighters and their families is conducive to the public good and that this is a transparent standard. [00:10:20] So when somebody attacks the Jewish community, he's banned. [00:10:24] When somebody is accused of Islamophobia, he's banned. [00:10:27] ISIS head choppers are not banned. [00:10:30] Yeah, but they cut off the heads of Christians, so that doesn't offend the state. [00:10:35] That seems to be the case. [00:10:37] I mean, I'm struggling to come up with a benevolent administrative explanation for this. [00:10:44] They just denaturalized a British gentleman for living in Russia. [00:10:48] He's a football commentator, I believe, he's an ex police officer who's now a football commentator. [00:10:52] Not exactly very threatening. [00:10:55] I tend not to be overly concerned about running into a football commentator on the street. [00:11:02] I am concerned about running into an ISIS head chopper on the street. [00:11:06] Yes. [00:11:06] Well, I mean, it's what Harrison said. [00:11:07] I mean, they have walked themselves so far down the path of this restrictive ideology. [00:11:13] But I mean, it's national erasure. [00:11:17] Yeah. [00:11:17] And it's big. [00:11:18] But the philosophy of the state is how do we erase the nation over which we govern? [00:11:24] But the original sentiment behind it was something like let's address historical imbalances, whether you think that's true or not, but let's address historical balances. [00:11:33] And let's put in place a process by which we, you know, make sure that, you know, the whatever are not discriminated against. [00:11:41] The majority population is like 98% of the country, so it doesn't really matter. [00:11:45] But all of that has lost sight as time has marched on. [00:11:48] And now this process is just a self reinforcing mechanism that can only ever drive stronger and stronger to replace the British and, yeah, champion anyone who. [00:11:58] Erase their heritage, erase their values, erase their religion. [00:12:01] Yes. [00:12:02] And this is supposed to be a good thing. [00:12:06] Yeah, but it's also quite telling that, you know, clearly the system, including the value system of our elites, plays a Plays a huge role in this, the administrative system as well as the value system. [00:12:18] But individual motivations do matter in that picture too, because people will readily reach for these bits of primary legislation like the 1981 Nationality Act, which has that clause, or might be 83, but which has that clause about permission to denaturalize if conducive to the public good. [00:12:37] Operatives within the British state are perfectly happy to draw from stuff they need when something they really care about. [00:12:43] Mind you, if it's at risk, if we win, that's a useful precedent to have. [00:12:48] I'm aware of it, Dan. [00:12:49] Yes. [00:12:50] You've given that some thought. [00:12:51] Good. [00:12:53] And, you know, here you see questions about things that are conducive to the public good. [00:13:00] You had some event in Birmingham, which my understanding is I could be mistaken about this. [00:13:04] They didn't get planning permission and they took over some kind of playground and set up food stalls. [00:13:11] But then there was a big protest because they were selling alcohol. [00:13:15] Yeah. [00:13:16] And you have to wonder. [00:13:26] So he was sorry, what? [00:13:36] Was that just such a thick Birmingham accent that I didn't hear it? [00:13:39] Or is that like Bangladeshi or something? [00:13:42] I think he's speaking in Bangla. [00:13:45] Yes. [00:13:45] Right. [00:13:46] And protesting in Bangla over an event in Birmingham. [00:13:52] And the question is, where is the public good here? [00:13:56] I mean, Andy Burnham is supposed to run in this constituency here. [00:14:01] I've forgotten. [00:14:04] Where was it? [00:14:05] Rusholm. [00:14:07] Yes. [00:14:08] Rusholm. [00:14:09] And you see here an argument between different strands of Pakistanis or Bangladeshis over whether or not Labour is supporting genocide. [00:14:20] And that's the deciding issue in the election. [00:14:21] And the question has to be is this conducive to the public good? [00:14:28] I don't have a clear answer. [00:14:31] Here you see the government writing a report on the welfare of women, Muslim women in particular. [00:14:37] Oh, okay. [00:14:40] But they refuse to touch the issue of headscarves, cousin marriages, Sharia courts, and female genital mutilation. [00:14:50] And you have to ask yourself well, is this conducive to the public good? [00:14:53] So basically, I mean, across the board, The public good seems to be defined as protecting anything that isn't British without offending the minorities that have the worst behavior. [00:15:07] Yes. [00:15:08] The idea is that the only real threat to the public good can be the majority. [00:15:12] Yes, fundamentally. === Defining the Common Good (07:55) === [00:15:13] And so the public good gets reconceived in minoritarian terms. [00:15:19] And of course, minoritarian here is not a numerical category so much as one about identity, because if the host population of Britain were to become a minority, I can assure you that they wouldn't suddenly start. [00:15:30] Standing up for our interests. [00:15:31] It becomes very clear when you sort of study the dynamics of world affairs a little that minoritarianism is only really a sort of temporary tactic used in Western societies until their host majorities are reduced to minorities because no one cares about the minority concerns of, say, the Afrikaans. [00:15:47] Exactly. [00:15:48] So, in terms of how it functions in global moral discourse, it is inherently anti white. [00:15:54] Yes. [00:15:54] And anti Christian. [00:15:55] And anti Christian. [00:15:57] And then you see things like jury systems breaking apart. [00:16:03] Yeah. [00:16:03] So the police brought convictions, brought charges, or the prosecutors brought charges against Majid Friedman accusing him of terrorism related charges. [00:16:13] But because it was a jury of his peers, they got stumped. [00:16:20] And now they're going to go to retrial. [00:16:22] Now, we're not taking a view on whether or not the allegations are valid. [00:16:25] Fair enough. [00:16:26] But you constantly see this issue coming up with juries where it's a headcount, it's an ethnic headcount. [00:16:34] So many of our institutions, including jury trials, were. [00:16:36] Like we're established in order to serve a fair weather, homogeneous, settled culture. [00:16:40] And so, once those sort of demographic givens are eroded, you can no longer count on these systems to produce the fair systems that they were fine tuned to produce centuries ago. [00:16:53] Well, I mean, just quickly on that, I read through a thread that some American put out on juries in the US. [00:16:59] And of course, their demographics are much worse than ours. [00:17:02] Yes. [00:17:03] And they were giving dozens of examples of cases. [00:17:05] I mean, one where, you know, a A black man had been going around raping, and they had him on CCTV doing it. [00:17:13] They had the DNA evidence, and the jury, which was majority black, simply said between themselves, and one of these guys was on the trial, he said, Well, the jury was saying amongst themselves, There's too many black men in prison, so we're not going to convict him. [00:17:25] So, yeah, I mean, it just all goes out the window. [00:17:27] It simply becomes, as you say, an ethnic headcount. [00:17:30] Exactly. [00:17:30] This is one of my least favourite things about the kind of go back to the 90s crowd. [00:17:33] People act as if the O.J. Simpson trial didn't take place, and as if we don't have. [00:17:38] Photographs of the verdict being announced on television in student dorms where all of the white people in the dorm are like, Oh my goodness, he's just been let off, even though it's a slam dunk case. [00:17:47] And all of the black people in the room are celebrating because they see it. [00:17:52] Because for many non Western groups, morality is simply an extension of group interest. [00:17:58] It's not anything universalistic. [00:18:01] Obviously, that's a bit of a generalization, but it is one that explains much of the things we see around the world. [00:18:07] It explains a lot of the evidence. [00:18:10] You know, it fits the evidence. [00:18:11] Fundamentally, as an Englishman, I don't want to live in a country where my children can be murdered with completely no consequences. [00:18:16] That's not the sort of country I want to live in. [00:18:18] And in terms of other things that are sort of falling apart, this is a story. [00:18:23] I haven't been able to verify it, but it seems that at one of the council elections, there were three recounts. [00:18:35] The seat was lost by a total of six votes. [00:18:39] And at the third recount, Seven votes were found going in the opposite way. [00:18:46] I'm not able to verify this completely. [00:18:48] It's in Birmingham. [00:18:50] We don't really know. [00:18:52] But this is the kind of thing that's coming up. [00:18:53] And we do remember the issue with postal voting and how much fraud there is in postal voting, mainly from minority areas. [00:19:04] So there seems to be this theme here of the state defining the public good in the narrowest term. [00:19:13] Really, along the interests of ethnic minorities. [00:19:16] We should note at this point, too, that there is also something incredibly inadequate about what center right existence does exist for this. [00:19:24] Because, as a general matter, people, like we're now at the point in our British national life, I would say, where people are calling out what they will often just kind of call bluntly sectarianism. [00:19:38] But what people fail to really appreciate is that sectarianism is a sort of second order consequence of living within a diverse society. [00:19:47] I can talk to you about this all day. [00:19:49] I bet you can. [00:19:50] But Lee Kuan Yew could too. [00:19:51] I mean, Lee Kuan Yew understood, even in a highly civilized country like Singapore, that look, where I think, you correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there's still a Han majority of around 75% and a Malay minority and then a couple of other groups too. [00:20:06] Lee Kuan Yew didn't want to reverse that. [00:20:08] He understood that that was just baked into the kind of country that Singapore was. [00:20:12] But he definitely wanted to mitigate it because he understood that once you have a sort of fractured demographic mess on your hands, people no longer think in terms of what serves them. [00:20:22] Again, the public good in general. [00:20:23] They basically just reconceive the public good as whatever serves their own little minority interest. [00:20:28] And so it stands to reason that the more diverse our own territories become, the more we're going to see sectarian voting. [00:20:33] And if you're not willing to call out the fundamental cause of that and indeed agitate to reverse that, there's no point complaining about the second order consequences. [00:20:39] It's just impotent. [00:20:40] And you may as well just tell them to stop, but they're not going to. [00:20:43] Diversity implies that you have different values and different identities. [00:20:47] And so you can't agree on what is a common good. [00:20:50] You can agree on what is a common good within your group. [00:20:53] You can't agree on a common good that encompasses all groups. [00:20:57] And the only way to manage diversity is through very strict authoritarianism. [00:21:01] Yes. [00:21:02] And the state is willing to be very authoritarian in Britain only against one group. [00:21:08] Yes. [00:21:10] It's not willing to be in any way authoritarian against the other groups because they don't even recognize its legitimacy. [00:21:16] And so you get this kind of mess as a natural consequence. [00:21:20] Well, and of being Lebanese, you know exactly where that leads to. [00:21:23] Yes. [00:21:23] Eventually, it's interesting. [00:21:26] The Christian population has said we've had enough. [00:21:28] Yeah, it's intermittent civil war, chaos, authoritarianism. [00:21:34] These are the three possible states in a diverse society. [00:21:37] Order by consent is the impossible state in a diverse society. [00:21:43] Order by consent is the key feature of the British political system. [00:21:49] And so it's meeting reality and it's not working. [00:21:52] And it just goes on and on because here you have somebody complaining that look, there's been organized crime operating for 10 years and nobody's doing anything about this. [00:22:01] Oh, yeah. [00:22:02] I see it in a view of it. [00:22:03] But that's excluded from the definition of public goods. [00:22:05] And people are going to trading standards and saying, look, this is obviously organized crime. [00:22:09] And 97% of workers in trading standards say that they know of organized crime on their streets, but they're helpless to do anything about it. [00:22:18] Because it runs into this unique, uniquely subversive and destructive definition of the common good, which only looks at the good of the non majority groups. [00:22:31] Yep. [00:22:33] And you have the traitors getting ready for the Tommy Robinson rally. [00:22:37] They are calling for a protest against his own protest. [00:22:42] Last time they assembled a grand total of 5,000 people versus the, by official estimates, 150,000, by unofficial estimates, several hundred thousand orders of magnitudes more. [00:22:58] Okay. [00:22:59] They are always willing to put themselves at risk for the benefit of people who absolutely hate them. [00:23:04] And who will genuinely throw them off rooftops if given a chance? === Jenkins and Long-Winded Justification (17:21) === [00:23:09] Armored police vehicles are going to be ready in anticipation of the violence. [00:23:14] There's a bit of mixed news when it comes to how the Muslims are taking all of this, because on the one side, they're asking, is there a future for Muslims in Britain? [00:23:25] And they are being advised to do one of two things either get ready to leave, or get ready to spread the dawah and to Islamize the country. [00:23:39] What does Dawah translate as? [00:23:41] Calling people to the correct faith. [00:23:44] Right. [00:23:45] And their beliefs. [00:23:46] Does it imply violence? [00:23:49] It's always borderline with Islam. [00:23:51] Dawah technically doesn't, but if you stop them from conducting Dawah, then violence is justified. [00:23:57] Oh, right. [00:23:58] Okay. [00:23:59] So if you say, actually, we're not going to tolerate you advocating for veiling all women or for banning this or that practice or what have you. [00:24:11] Then you are interfering with their divinely ordained right to dawah, therefore, you are a fighting infidel, therefore, you should be fought. [00:24:21] I just love the advert on the side of this as well supporting Muslim families against state policies. [00:24:26] I mean, the entire state is geared up to support Muslim families, yes, and give them housing in SW1 and in Zone One and so on and so forth. [00:24:36] Yeah, but you know, how dare you? [00:24:39] Um, but there's presumably some money left that hasn't been channeled in their direction. [00:24:45] Yes, yes, yes. [00:24:48] But the other side of it is bragging that really in the council elections, the election of sectarian candidates was really a huge success, and Muslims should take heart and they should double down, and they should insist essentially on seeing this through until their place in Britain is secure, meaning that Britain is defeated. [00:25:15] So, the lay of the land here, I mean, they are being honest about this. [00:25:20] They're calling this a democratic awakening and putting up photos of Jeremy Corbyn. [00:25:24] But you will notice that Jeremy Corbyn is like Waldo here. [00:25:29] Yes. [00:25:30] Well, this is one of the ironies of multiculturalism, as defined probably best by Roy Jenkins in the 60s when he was Home Secretary, when in many ways he was actually very realistic about human nature. [00:25:41] He said, look, we don't want a flattening process. [00:25:45] It's impossible to get going, this is what Roy Jenkins said in the 60s, a flattening process of assimilation that turns everyone into a carbon copy of an Englishman. [00:25:52] What we want instead is for groups brought here, immigrant populations brought here, this is what Roy Jenkins himself said, to cleave to their own national cultures within Britain, but within an atmosphere. [00:26:02] These are the kind of all of a sudden the very strict terms of engagement, but in an atmosphere of mutual tolerance and understanding. [00:26:08] That's what Roy Jenkins said. [00:26:09] Oh, that's a good idea. [00:26:10] Did it work? [00:26:11] We're going to find out, Dan, but the point I would make here is that. [00:26:15] Once a group that has been admitted to the national home on those liberal terms, as a result of such soft touch liberalism, becomes a majority, they no longer have any reason to play second fiddle to lily livered multiculturalists like Roy Jenkins. [00:26:33] So simply because you, simply to admit a guest to the house on your own terms is no long run guarantee of long run charge of the household. [00:26:42] And I think multiculturalists are going to learn that in the coming decades. [00:26:46] We don't do our best. [00:26:47] I'm not sure if it's the obvious right now, but yeah. [00:26:49] You'd have thought so. [00:26:50] It's becoming more and more obvious. [00:26:51] It sounds much less paranoid than it perhaps would have done if someone had lodged that objection to Jenkins in the 60s. [00:26:57] Yes. [00:26:58] And so you see them bragging here about Lutfur Rahman of Tower Hamlets, one of the most corrupt boroughs in London, how he extended his majority and kicked out more people of Labour and whatever was left of the Conservatives. [00:27:14] In Newham, basically, they took half the council from absolutely nothing. [00:27:23] Newham is the most diverse ward in all of London. [00:27:27] If by diverse, we mean least wise. [00:27:29] Yes, that's exactly what it means. [00:27:33] Again, functionally in our discourse, there are perfectly colourblind meanings of, in the abstract, there are perfectly colourblind meanings of diversity. [00:27:39] If I were to add more pasty lads from Northumbria to rap music, I would be making it more diverse, but no one agitates for that kind of diversity. [00:27:47] On the Christopher Nolan debate about how he's casting Africans as Greek people, and people have been pointing out the reason he's doing that is because you literally cannot win an Oscar unless your cast is diverse. [00:27:59] And then I look back over the best pictures. [00:28:01] And one of them was Parasite, which was a South Korean film where literally everyone in it was South Korean. [00:28:08] There was no diversity whatsoever. [00:28:10] No, there was perfect diversity. [00:28:12] Yeah, yeah, but there was actually total diversity. [00:28:14] There was no. [00:28:15] Because there was no. [00:28:16] In the actual operative meaning of the word, as opposed to in the abstract meaning of the word, there was perfect diversity. [00:28:23] That's exactly right. [00:28:24] And I really don't see this getting better. [00:28:28] Tommy Robinson's rally is going to be held anyway, despite the various bands. [00:28:33] Despite the very obvious, very blatant redefining of the public interest, he is, as always, adamant that this should be peaceful, disciplined. [00:28:42] Don't give the media what they want. [00:28:44] Don't be aggressive. [00:28:44] Don't fight with the media. [00:28:45] They'll just make him stronger with all of this. [00:28:47] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:28:48] Don't wear face masks, unlike what we're going to see in a lot of the Palestine protests. [00:28:55] But the point of this segment is that these guys have basically decided that their enemy is the British public. [00:29:06] The state has decided that the enemy is the public. [00:29:10] And it is redefining basic ideas like national interest, the public good, et cetera, to fit that definition. [00:29:17] And it's obvious from everything that they do, from the bans of the Tommy Robinson speakers to the Kanye West bans, et cetera, et cetera. [00:29:26] This is not an endorsement of any of the speakers or of Kanye or of anything like that. [00:29:30] But this is pointing to a very blatant double standard that is showing up in the way the police is behaving and that is showing up in pretty much everything in British life. [00:29:42] Anyway. [00:29:43] Yeah, absolutely right. [00:29:44] That is the segment. [00:29:47] That's a random name says the betrayal of nations will continue until either Restore wins and saves the nation or the elections get fortified and things turn medieval. [00:29:59] Yeah, fair enough. [00:30:01] I don't have a problem with these groups acting in their interests. [00:30:04] My problem is that only we aren't allowed because the last time we did, we conquered the world. [00:30:13] I've repeatedly raised the concept of modern exile. [00:30:16] Well, that's a different conversation. [00:30:19] As with everything leftist and liberal, conducive to the public good in their interpretation just means destroy English European people at every step and benefit everyone else. [00:30:27] Yeah, kind of. [00:30:32] We shall see. [00:30:34] So the Labour leadership crisis is hotting up. [00:30:39] I was going to take you through the front pages of the newspaper, which were all going to show that. [00:30:45] You know, apparently Wes Streeting is on the verge of resigning. [00:30:48] But Samson, our producer, was waving at me through the window a few moments ago to tell me that he has actually done it. [00:30:56] And there we go. [00:30:57] He's added a link for it. [00:30:58] So, West Streeting has actually now resigned. [00:31:01] So, I'm seeing this for the first time. [00:31:05] Blah, blah, blah. [00:31:06] The NHS is really good. [00:31:07] I did loads of good stuff at the NHS. [00:31:09] Aren't I good for running the NHS? [00:31:12] The NHS is in a horrific state. [00:31:18] It's blah, blah, blah. [00:31:19] Government is unpopular. [00:31:21] Reform or nationalists, as he calls them, are winning elections. [00:31:25] Starmer doesn't have what it takes. [00:31:27] He wants a leadership election which is going to basically bring everybody in, blah, blah, blah. [00:31:35] Aren't I great? [00:31:36] Right, okay, fine. [00:31:37] So, anyway, that's what he says. [00:31:40] So, yes, it's on. [00:31:44] Are we excited, chaps? [00:31:49] Doesn't change my life. [00:31:51] No, it doesn't really, does it? [00:31:52] I mean, is Streeting going to make Mandelson's other protege going to do anything beneficial? [00:32:00] No, no, I mean, that's kind of my point of the segment. [00:32:03] It's just not going to make a damn difference to any of it. [00:32:07] Interestingly, Angela Rayner, on the key day, HMRC, after having done nothing for three months, suddenly decided to open the file and immediately found the done nothing wrong stamp, slapped it all over it, and handed it back again. [00:32:21] It has to be said, this investigation has been going on since what, October, November, something like that? [00:32:26] Yeah, months and months and months. [00:32:28] And the. [00:32:29] Today's the day! [00:32:31] Sure. [00:32:31] Is did she receive the advice that she says she received, which presumably came in the form of an email that she could have sent and said, actually, yes, this is the advice that she received. [00:32:43] It was bad advice. [00:32:44] She still owes that much money. [00:32:46] Yeah. [00:32:46] That is how much investigation was required. [00:32:50] I mean, I could look into it, but I can't be bothered. [00:32:52] There's going to be some long winded bloody justification. [00:32:55] The point is, oh, yeah, let's just chuck her into the mix and. [00:32:58] Exactly. [00:32:58] They waited until after the election to. [00:33:03] Give her the all clear. [00:33:05] And then, as things got really heated, all of a sudden, yeah, why not just chuck Angela Rayner into that? [00:33:11] Yep, absolutely. [00:33:12] Maybe use her to terrify the markets, consolidate support for Keir. [00:33:16] Who knows? [00:33:17] Keir is actually more popular than West Street. [00:33:19] Yes, we come to that. [00:33:20] I mean, very quick detail. [00:33:22] Angela the Fridge Rayner, Big Bird, she's been getting loads of money, literally from a fridge company, which is ironic considering her nickname. [00:33:32] But basically, she's had a labor. [00:33:35] Leadership war chest being built. [00:33:38] There's that. [00:33:40] Keir Starmer is backing Andy Burnham for Labour leadership. [00:33:45] Admittedly, that is an old tweet, but okay, I think he's probably going to stand, isn't he? [00:33:55] Keir is going to hold on with everything he's got. [00:33:58] Well, I mean, he's been waiting since he was a teenager. [00:34:00] The man has no soul. [00:34:01] He doesn't dream. [00:34:02] He doesn't have hobbies. [00:34:03] He doesn't have it. [00:34:04] Well, apart from cranial boys, but. [00:34:07] There's nothing that sparks the fire in his soul apart from controlling all of us. [00:34:13] He's been waiting his whole life to do it. [00:34:14] He's hardly going to give up now. [00:34:17] This is another link which you pointed my way. [00:34:21] Let's have a look at this. [00:34:23] So, who actually does well in a Labour leadership? [00:34:26] Well, it's Andy Burnham and Andrew Arena, isn't it? [00:34:28] Yes. [00:34:29] Right, fair enough. [00:34:30] And the only reason Andy Burnham's so popular is because he isn't a minister. [00:34:34] If he had been a minister for the last two years, everybody would hate him just as much as everybody else. [00:34:39] Pretty much. [00:34:39] We've just got this notion that he's untainted by the shadowy fingers of corruption, but that's about it. [00:34:47] I mean, what it shows you is that actually being involved at the frontline level is the thing that completely discredits you because you are seen as the problem. [00:34:59] Yes. [00:35:00] And as soon as he takes over, he just becomes unpopular as everybody else. [00:35:03] Exactly. [00:35:04] Well, in my view, the major difficulty that Labour has is that they haven't really had a visionary leader capable of thinking beyond the managerial textbook since Blair himself. [00:35:12] And I know this is, by many people, this is considered strange because Blair, in many ways, established our kind of post 97 managerial system, the blob, and all the rest of it. [00:35:21] But in order to. [00:35:22] In order to establish a managerial system, you actually have to have quite a bit of creativity. [00:35:26] But once you hand that system over to caretakers, as it were, rather than visionaries, all of a sudden people lack creativity. [00:35:35] So I think there you're thinking too in the moment. [00:35:38] And actually, when I lay out my case, you'll agree with me that actually it's that the surplus have been spent, effectively. [00:35:45] Let me lay out my argument. [00:35:46] So this is my sort of pinned tweet, which I like to bring up every now and again because it is a work of genius. [00:35:52] This recent. [00:35:53] Or is this old? [00:35:53] No, this is my old pinned tweet. [00:35:56] Basically, what I lay out in here is that Britain isn't really a democracy anymore. [00:36:00] It's a credentialed waiting compliance system. [00:36:04] The state doesn't govern, it just processes risk. [00:36:07] The parliament is basically just a signalling layer, it's not a decision making layer. [00:36:13] Decisions are actually made by real constraints the bond market, international legal rules that it signed up to, all that kind of stuff. [00:36:21] And parliament is basically just laundering the decisions that get made by this mechanism that's been in place for decades now. [00:36:27] Through it. [00:36:29] Britain is governed by assumptions that can't be named, you know, things like, you know, we cannot benefit natives, you know, what you were saying. [00:36:36] You know, we can't let the bond yields get too out of control, although that's happening anyway. [00:36:41] You know, and the real constraints are statistical, not written. [00:36:45] It's all of those things. [00:36:46] It's legal harmonization and it's bond yields and elections barely matter with this. [00:36:50] So, I mean, I put that out a while ago. [00:36:52] And I mean, just in the context of all this stuff, you know, we're going to have to go through the whole palaver. [00:37:01] About, oh, who's going to make a better leader? [00:37:03] But it won't make any bloody difference because, you know, satisfaction with whoever you get just does this. [00:37:11] It's because the system itself instantly collapses. [00:37:13] Yes. [00:37:14] But my point is consistent with yours, though, isn't it? [00:37:16] Because I'm saying that a visionary person would, in principle, be able to make tweaks to the system. [00:37:20] I don't think even a vision. [00:37:22] Well. [00:37:23] So you think it isn't, in principle, unchangeable? [00:37:27] Unless you're willing to change the underlying assumption. [00:37:30] So if by visionary you mean they're going to tear up the structures of which this system is run on. [00:37:36] Yes. [00:37:36] Okay. [00:37:36] In which case, yes, we agree. [00:37:38] They're all caretaker managers, whereas Blair is actually a visionary because, in order to establish this mechanistic system, which once established can run without any real guidance, you just need caretaker managers to take it over. [00:37:51] And what I'm saying is. [00:37:52] And Blair is a perfect example of that. [00:37:53] He's perfect. [00:37:53] And they all are. [00:37:56] None of them actually do anything to change this. [00:37:58] They're all built out of the caretaker mold. [00:38:00] And therefore, that's what I mean when I say it won't make any difference to my life. [00:38:03] They all basically have the same assumptions, basically have the same views. [00:38:06] They vary, if at all, only in terms of. [00:38:09] The pragmatic constraints. [00:38:10] So, which grace we agree? [00:38:11] We are saying that Starmer is the perfect avatar for this system because his job is to manage basically what was supposed to be a stable post 90s system. [00:38:20] Yes. [00:38:21] That was also the job of Cameron and May and Johnson. [00:38:24] And they fulfilled their role perfectly. [00:38:27] Cameron strengthened the administrative state, he further liberalized the system. [00:38:32] Theresa May imposed net zero and the madness of net zero. [00:38:36] Yes. [00:38:36] And Johnson went much further than Blair in terms of, you know, More Somalians means more GDP. [00:38:44] Yes. [00:38:44] It's a good thing. [00:38:46] And by the way, they've also redefined making any changes to this system through will or through power as fascism. [00:38:53] Yes, yes. [00:38:55] And to be fair, like this, I mean, Schmidt, this is what Schmidt means when he says the sovereign is he who desires the state of exception. [00:39:00] You need to be a visionary person in order to decide the state of exception. [00:39:03] And given that politics has effectively been equated with fascism and anti politics has been equated with the rule of law or the smooth running of this not so Rolls Royce system, they find themselves in a bit of a moral bind. [00:39:17] Yeah, so actually, no, we do agree. [00:39:19] I mean, what I'm basically saying with all of this is that Labour's crisis is not ideology as to whether they go to the left or the right. [00:39:26] What I'm saying is it's actually a thermodynamics problem. [00:39:29] They've run out of growth. [00:39:31] There's too much debt. [00:39:32] There's too much welfare dependency. [00:39:34] There's too many rules. [00:39:35] There's all of them. [00:39:36] They forget how much of Blair's growth was driven by low interest rates and debt. [00:39:39] Yes. [00:39:41] Excellent point. [00:39:42] They forget that the Blair boom came mainly from historically low American interest rates under Alan Greenspan. [00:39:49] And Open door immigration, which led to a housing boom. [00:39:53] Everybody felt richer. [00:39:55] They spent more. [00:39:56] The economy did grow, but it didn't grow in productive capacity. [00:40:00] So, I mean, would you both agree with me that Britain's problem at the moment is effectively negative sovereignty? [00:40:06] Yes. [00:40:07] In that everybody gets to say no. [00:40:10] Exactly. [00:40:10] Nobody is saying yes to anything, nobody is making anything happen. [00:40:14] Pretty much. [00:40:14] Yeah. [00:40:15] Yeah, that's the anti politics you speak of. [00:40:16] Yes. [00:40:17] And obviously, there's no such thing. [00:40:18] Don't touch the system, otherwise, you're a fascist. [00:40:20] If you touch the system, that's it. [00:40:24] It's that, yeah, and obviously, philosophically, there is actually no such thing as anti politics because it is itself a political view to say that we need to establish an anti political system. === Ministers and British Values (09:30) === [00:40:31] So, but but but that aside, yeah, because I mean, ultimately, when you look at these different characters, I mean, what are they saying? [00:40:38] So, I mean, the the West Streeting, we started off talking about him. [00:40:41] The West Streeting line is basically the Blairite line, which is we can govern if markets trust us, right? [00:40:47] But you you run out of surplus, you know, that they can see that you run out of surplus, you your welfare dependency is too high, bond yields are going to continue to grow. [00:40:55] So, he's wrong. [00:40:56] Rayner is effectively saying that Britain can be governed if Labour feels socially coherent again. [00:41:02] And that's what she's kind of pinning it on. [00:41:04] Do you reckon she can do that? [00:41:06] How do you get social coherence and diversity? [00:41:08] It can't. [00:41:08] It is literally a binary choice. [00:41:10] It's a binary choice. [00:41:11] Yes. [00:41:12] You can have social cohesion, you can have diversity, you can have both. [00:41:15] But human nature is also fascist. [00:41:17] Yes, that as well. [00:41:20] I am a fan of human nature. [00:41:22] And then Andy Burnham, who's supposed to be the great hope of this, I mean, he's effectively saying that Britain can be governed if legitimacy comes from outside Westminster. [00:41:30] So, it's this kind of escape fantasy. [00:41:32] But the moment he goes inside Westminster, he's just going to get tainted with all of that. [00:41:37] So, there is absolute, this leadership election genuinely does not matter. [00:41:43] No. [00:41:44] At all. [00:41:45] Unless, like you say, you get somebody who is willing to rip up all of the governing assumptions that this country operates on and install new ones, which is quite a big task. [00:41:54] Do you know anyone like that? [00:41:56] No. [00:41:57] I'll come to think of it. [00:41:59] I was texting him on the train. [00:42:01] But yeah, we need people with vision, we need people with imagination, not those who are going to outsource decision making to some. [00:42:09] And with courage and integrity. [00:42:11] Indeed, yes. [00:42:12] You have to look at the system with a sense of courage and integrity, say that this is broken and that it's meant to serve a different set of people than it's currently serving. [00:42:22] That's right. [00:42:23] We need charisma, leadership, we need virtue. [00:42:26] These sort of more old fashioned things are going to be necessary to the restoration of Britishness. [00:42:29] And the thing I liked about your chaps. [00:42:31] Sort of opening video is the bit where he says it's going to be extremely painful. [00:42:35] That's what I want to hear because the problem is not necessarily a lack of democracy, it's a lack of consequence. [00:42:40] Yes. [00:42:41] Nobody carries consequence anymore because everything is a process. [00:42:45] Everything is farmed out to some secondary constraint that sits outside Parliament, be it the bond markets or international law, whatever it is. [00:42:51] There's just no consequence in the system anymore. [00:42:54] You know, and I mean, fundamentally, the British state no longer has purpose. [00:43:03] You know, if you were to ask any of these candidates, what is your purpose of governing? [00:43:09] I don't think a single one of them could tell you, apart from Lib. [00:43:13] Like throwaway lines. [00:43:14] You're saying protecting British values? [00:43:16] Yeah, it would be some nonsense like that. [00:43:19] I mean, I'm looking here at the magnificent letter from West Streeting, and he's saying that when you say that Britain has become an island of strangers, it means you've lost your way. [00:43:30] That's what he says. [00:43:30] Yes. [00:43:31] He attacks the island of strangers line. [00:43:36] Starmat outflanked from the left. [00:43:38] It's incredible. [00:43:39] Yeah. [00:43:40] Because he's apparently not left wing enough. [00:43:43] It's. [00:43:44] Well, I suppose. [00:43:46] One of the things that is arguably entailed by your system diagnosis, Dan, is that anyone overseeing this system and who refuses to be visionary in and amongst it is psychotic. [00:44:01] Yeah, they kind of have to be. [00:44:02] Because, I mean, all they're doing is arguing over who gets the mandate. [00:44:06] But what that really means is who gets to try and manage the set of constraints this system has imposed upon them. [00:44:15] I mean, good luck with that. [00:44:17] And that's why I just can't take this stuff seriously because, oh, yeah, it might be Burnham, it might be Angela, but absolutely nothing is going to change. [00:44:25] And this picture, this approval ready, it's just going to happen again. [00:44:30] And I've got something else on here as well. [00:44:33] Yeah, the tenure. [00:44:35] There you go, tenures of British prime ministers. [00:44:39] That's Italian territory. [00:44:40] That is catastrophic. [00:44:42] Is that because they have been unable to find the right leader, or is that because the system itself is unable to do something? [00:44:48] I remember the line from Yes Minister. [00:44:51] Which basically explains that it takes a minister a couple of years to get to grips with his department. [00:44:57] And it's only then that the minister is able to make changes. [00:45:02] Under the system, every minister is replaced every few months. [00:45:05] Yes. [00:45:07] Meaning that there is zero chance of somebody coming to grips with their portfolio. [00:45:13] Meaning that the system keeps on going regardless of whatever the minister has promised in order to be delivered to Westminster. [00:45:24] And so it's a complete farce. [00:45:25] You can't function like this. [00:45:28] Yeah, exactly. [00:45:29] And then, of course, we've got the king's speech. [00:45:33] So there we go. [00:45:34] Here's the king's speech. [00:45:35] There's a picture of the king, old sausage fingers himself, looking very grand. [00:45:38] That is some top bling. [00:45:40] I will give him that. [00:45:41] That is top bling. [00:45:42] Anyway, there's the king's speech. [00:45:45] Bloody, bloody, blah. [00:45:46] My government will do this. [00:45:47] My government will do that. [00:45:48] My government will do the other thing. [00:45:49] Blah, blah, blah. [00:45:50] Anyway, I thought, you know, they said, Dan, you should cover the king's speech. [00:45:54] And I read it and I was like, oh. [00:45:56] Yeah, but this is such an absolute mountain pile of toss that I'm not covering this. [00:46:04] This is absolutely. [00:46:05] So, what I did is I just rewrote it, right? [00:46:08] I rewrote it. [00:46:09] And I promise you, this is 100% accurate, right? [00:46:15] But it's just honest now. [00:46:16] So, let me read you the King's speech as it should have been written. [00:46:21] So, you know, my lords, members of the House of Commons, my government believes that Britain can be governed if every problem is converted into security. [00:46:30] Processed through active state partnership, digitized, regulated, monitored, legally harmonized, and made institutionally legible. [00:46:40] Brilliant. [00:46:41] Yes. [00:46:41] None of this, it's genius, it's correct, and none of it makes sense. [00:46:46] Yes. [00:46:47] I guarantee that. [00:46:48] I mean, I literally did just go through the speech and just write out each paragraph, but in a way that it was actually supposed to be written. [00:46:59] My ministers recognize that the world is increasingly dangerous. [00:47:03] What they cannot say is that danger has revealed the central fact of the British state. [00:47:09] It can regulate, tax, and monitor, but it struggles to decide, to build, and to prioritise. [00:47:16] So, yes, that would be what he actually said. [00:47:23] My government will therefore speak constantly about security economic security, energy security, border security, a whole bunch of other securities. [00:47:32] Security is the language by which the lack of sovereignty is made respectable. [00:47:37] It allows ministers to sound serious without naming the conflicts they are unwilling to resolve. [00:47:44] Brilliant. [00:47:45] Yes. [00:47:46] I mean, if you do read the King's speech, then read my one because it is just better and it's more accurate, right? [00:47:54] My government believes in shaping the markets. [00:47:57] By this, my government means that markets no longer produce politically acceptable outcomes, but the state no longer has fiscal room. [00:48:08] Delivery capacity or legal freedom to command outcomes directly. [00:48:12] It will therefore intermediate between public objectives and private balance sheets. [00:48:17] The public will carry much of the risk, private capital will be invited to harvest much of the return, and we will call this investment. [00:48:27] I'll go on. [00:48:29] My ministers will continue to pursue growth while maintaining the institutional arrangements that suppress it. [00:48:39] My government will strengthen relations with the European Union because the British administrative state is more comfortable when nested inside a larger rules-based system. [00:48:49] My government will introduce measures on immigration and asylum to increase public confidence in the system. [00:48:56] Immigration will therefore be treated as a matter of processing, identifying, security and reassurance rather than any sovereign decisions about the future composition of the nation. [00:49:08] My ministers will proceed with digital ID because a low trust state must replace trust with verification. [00:49:16] My government will reform public services. [00:49:21] They will be attempts to extract performance from institutions whose incentive makes performance improvements impossible. [00:49:30] And what else have I got? [00:49:31] Oh, yeah. [00:49:32] British values. [00:49:32] Don't forget British values. [00:49:34] Oh, yes. [00:49:34] Oh, no, I think that I'm. [00:49:35] Yeah, there is a bit of values. [00:49:36] Yes, I remember doing that bit. [00:49:38] My government will speak of trust in public office. [00:49:41] It will not admit that public trust has collapsed because responsibility has been separated from power. [00:49:48] My government will uphold British values of decency, tolerance, blah, because it cannot restore cohesion through a shared identity, controlled borders, common obligations, or national priority. === Responsibility Separated from Power (07:33) === [00:50:02] Oh, I like this bit. [00:50:03] This is brilliant. [00:50:04] Yes. [00:50:05] This is a work of art. [00:50:07] Thank you. [00:50:07] It is. [00:50:08] Really? [00:50:08] I've always admired your honesty, friends. [00:50:11] My ministers will support Ukraine, NATO, global stability, climate leadership, humanitarian action, women and girls, two slate solution, the G20, blah, All of them will be priorities. [00:50:23] None of them will be ranked. [00:50:25] The state will continue to confuse coverage with strategy. [00:50:31] Other measures will be laid before you, but because the British state remains highly capable of talking about measures, what it cannot do is produce outcomes. [00:50:41] So, anyway. [00:50:42] Last line, last line. [00:50:43] Oh, yes. [00:50:45] I pray for the blessings of the Almighty God may rest upon your councils, for my government cannot. [00:50:50] So, anyway, the whole document is in the reading links. [00:50:53] Yes, thank you. [00:50:54] That's very good. [00:50:55] It is, it is, yes. [00:50:57] If you go to lotusetas.com, And you go to the reading links, you can read the entire King's speech. [00:51:03] But, you know, this is my point. [00:51:05] This is why I don't think it's just jaded for having done this job for a long time that I come in and I look at the news and say, oh, that thing has happened and that thing has happened. [00:51:14] But in Christians, I just think, well, yeah, but what's the bloody point of any of it? [00:51:18] Truly. [00:51:19] Yes. [00:51:21] I mean, unless. [00:51:23] They don't know who they are, they don't know what their values are, they're just adrift. [00:51:27] Unless, if only, there was some sort of political movement out there. [00:51:33] That was willing to look at all of this and go, Yeah, we're not doing that. [00:51:37] We are fundamentally going to reimagine the state. [00:51:39] That's your cue, Harrison. [00:51:43] Well, yes. [00:51:44] I mean, one of the reasons why I find that very amusing is because it is. [00:51:52] Well, it's not just amusing, it's very enlightening about the way in. [00:51:55] It's obviously a satire, but this is the. [00:51:58] It's dearly accurate, that is. [00:52:00] This is what passes genuinely for wisdom in Whitehall. [00:52:03] Yes. [00:52:04] And that is a major source of our woes. [00:52:06] And I think that the right, I mean, you know, the nominal right in recent decades has thought of it as its duty to make peace with this system and to sort of. [00:52:16] Oh, and uphold it. [00:52:17] Uphold it. [00:52:18] Well, by operating obediently within the confines of the system, you do inherently and implicitly uphold it rather than to do real politics and to engage in decision making because the essence of politics is decision making and power needs to be related very strongly. [00:52:34] To responsibility. [00:52:36] I think that after a very nightmarish 20th century, people, if I'd not sound too grand about it, but people are afraid of the great man. [00:52:43] Yes. [00:52:44] They would much rather outsource decision making to this faceless set of bureaucrats. [00:52:49] But in doing so, you, as you say, separate responsibility from power and it makes it very difficult for people to understand who governs them. [00:52:56] Well, and this whole kind of managerial system worked when there was a surplus to draw down from. [00:53:02] That helps too, of course. [00:53:03] And it's gone. [00:53:04] Yes. [00:53:05] Yeah. [00:53:06] There's just no headroom anymore. [00:53:07] But presumably, you would be of the view that whatever surplus you have at T1, the longer this system is in place, that surplus is just going to be eaten up anyway. [00:53:23] It's always on borrowed time once this is the system. [00:53:26] Yeah, exactly. [00:53:27] What we have is a government that has retired and is living on its pension. [00:53:31] Yes. [00:53:31] And is running its pension down. [00:53:32] Well, in fact, the pension is gone. [00:53:34] We're now on the credit cards. [00:53:35] So, yeah. [00:53:38] We need a better system of government. [00:53:40] We do. [00:53:40] We do. [00:53:40] Yes, exactly. [00:53:41] Right. [00:53:42] Let's see if there's anybody who has commented on that. [00:53:46] They have. [00:53:48] So, quite right, Mr. White says the NHS is nothing to be proud of. [00:53:54] It is bled dry and used as a cash cow pipe, PFI, middle management, and vampiric private companies. [00:54:01] Yeah, I mean, I've worked in private equity and I've seen, I mean, not the companies I directly work for, but other people that I spoke to, is like they were always bragging about how they were getting the. [00:54:11] You're getting one over on the British state because basically they know how to write contracts and the state doesn't. [00:54:16] Yeah. [00:54:17] Binary Surfer for a solid $5 says, Look, at least Big Ange has two notable assets going for her, if you get my drift. [00:54:27] Yes. [00:54:29] Yeah, she does have personalities. [00:54:32] I will give you that. [00:54:34] He also says, for another solid $5, Harrison Restore, be aware that Labour are doing the political equivalent of the famous there's no money left good luck note for whoever forms the next government. [00:54:45] Yes. [00:54:46] Yeah, absolutely. [00:54:48] He also says, good, he's been on a run, this chap. [00:54:51] Dan is correct. [00:54:52] This requires fundamental reshaping and visionary system wide disruption. [00:54:56] Well, that was actually Harrison's point. [00:54:58] Well, I suppose we're both making the same point, coming at it from different directions. [00:55:01] On a level not even Blair could achieve. [00:55:03] Yeah, it is a bit of a challenge. [00:55:05] Hope your policy guy is good. [00:55:07] Hopefully. [00:55:07] Yes. [00:55:09] Ockley Dawes says there's too much GDP. [00:55:12] Well, yes. [00:55:15] Yes. [00:55:16] And Tom Ratt says it's. [00:55:19] It's incumbent on Restore to be war gaming policies now. [00:55:23] Are you doing any policies? [00:55:24] Yes. [00:55:25] Right. [00:55:25] There we go. [00:55:26] Yes, we are. [00:55:27] And yes, I do think that this is the whole virtue of what Rupert said in our launch video. [00:55:34] As you mentioned earlier about the need to level with the British people and tell them this is going to be a painful process. [00:55:40] Rehab is not enjoyable. [00:55:41] No. [00:55:42] And not to be too boomerish about things, but I think Thatcher was quite good at communicating this way. [00:55:46] She didn't, in successive elections, she didn't really say to the British people it's going to be sunlit. [00:55:50] Uplands straight away. [00:55:52] She was basically addressing the country and telling them, look, if we want to be successful and get out of this sort of post war consensus stupor, the whole country needs a cold shower. [00:56:03] And that's what I'm going to give you. [00:56:04] Well, and I'd be willing to take 20 years of hardship to turn this country around. [00:56:09] I suspect once you started doing it, actually, you'd probably turn around a lot quicker. [00:56:12] Well, yeah, it's easier with time because once you remove the people who are on benefits living in zone one and in the centers of cities and so on. [00:56:21] All of the second order effects in terms of lower crime, in terms of lower house prices, in terms of more jobs, in terms of everything that follows sort of convinces the public actually, yes, our life is getting better. [00:56:34] We can take risks. [00:56:36] We can live in urban areas, which are critical to generating wealth anywhere throughout history, et cetera, et cetera. [00:56:42] So it is a self reinforcing process, reversing all of this, the benefits cascade from it, even if the start of it is going to be bloody painful. [00:56:52] And as a matter of public communications as well, it does help to remind people that the choice isn't between hardship and no hardship. [00:56:57] The choice is between endless hardship laced with statelessness and temporary hardship laced with restoration. [00:57:03] Yes. [00:57:03] Precisely. [00:57:04] That's exactly it. [00:57:05] There is hope. [00:57:06] There is hope. [00:57:07] That's very important. [00:57:08] So some of the problems that are affecting Britain seem to be a bit widespread. [00:57:16] And I thought I'd start here with this tweet from Roisin Michaud. [00:57:20] I hope that I'm pronouncing her name correctly. [00:57:24] She used to be. [00:57:27] In the EU in Brussels, and then was promptly kicked out for her efforts. === Hope Amidst Widespread Problems (05:53) === [00:57:35] EU staff seem to be getting told that they aren't allowed to discuss subjects such as Ukraine, Gaza, Iran, vaccines, and politics. [00:57:50] And if you are the policy making body of all of Europe, presumably you might want to do something. [00:57:56] Policy might come up at some points. [00:57:57] Politics might factor into your job. [00:58:00] It might. [00:58:01] Yes. [00:58:02] What can they discuss? [00:58:03] Nothing. [00:58:04] They can just nod their heads and obey. [00:58:07] They can nod their heads and obey. [00:58:09] Now, mind you, this hasn't stopped EU staff because a bunch of them are protesting against EU policy on Gaza because apparently it's a problem that Europe hasn't nuked Israel yet. [00:58:21] Or at least they might be advocating that for all I know. [00:58:25] They're also not allowed to talk about gender, of course. [00:58:28] And they're not allowed to discuss really most things. [00:58:33] And presumably, the actual impossible to discuss topic might have something to do also with immigration. [00:58:42] Oh, yes. [00:58:43] I mean, it doesn't feature on this list, but one would assume that that's also a verboten topic. [00:58:51] But things aren't going well because throughout the West, we're seeing a bit of a pattern. [00:58:57] And now let me tell me if you notice something, please. [00:59:01] Tell me if you notice something. [00:59:03] Australia, Pauline Hansen's One Nation party is becoming the biggest in opinion polls. [00:59:12] They can still command a majority, the rest can still command a majority, but they seem to be broken, defeated, and out of ideas. [00:59:20] And more importantly, what is One Nation? [00:59:22] Is that a based party? [00:59:23] One Nation is their version of Restore. [00:59:25] That's Pauline Hansen. [00:59:26] Yes. [00:59:27] Right, okay. [00:59:27] And like a national populist anti mass immigration. [00:59:30] We like One Nation, do we? [00:59:31] I think from what I've seen, I haven't studied it in depth, but she seems very sound. [00:59:35] Fair enough. [00:59:35] I like One Nation then. [00:59:36] Yes. [00:59:37] And tell me if this rings a bell. [00:59:43] I see a story like that from this country every single day. [00:59:45] Yes. [00:59:46] Yes. [00:59:47] For those of you not watching, four migrants raped a 17 year old for six hours at multiple locations in Australia. [00:59:55] I mean, that sort of thing used to happen once a decade in this country. [00:59:58] Every single day. [00:59:59] Let's see. [01:00:00] Let's look at France here. [01:00:02] Because there's a great deal of dissatisfaction with Mr. Macron. [01:00:07] And it seems that Rassemblement National, the party of Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella, is getting stronger. [01:00:14] The left is trying to figure out a way of uniting. [01:00:19] There doesn't seem to be anybody who is completely popular, by the way. [01:00:23] They have a list of potential candidates. [01:00:26] None of them overwhelmingly wins, really. [01:00:30] Even Jordan Bardella, who's at the top, still has 51% disapproval if he wins. [01:00:38] The system doesn't seem capable of producing leaders that the public can rally around, which is really a huge issue. [01:00:48] Record number of presidential hopefuls. [01:00:50] They're all trying to block. [01:00:51] The far right and the fear of the surging far right. [01:00:54] This is always the story from The Guardian. [01:00:57] And then you see this kind of story in France. [01:01:02] Right. [01:01:02] Remote town Pigalle, a 25 year old Australian woman gets gang raped by five Africans. [01:01:11] It's the same story. [01:01:13] Let's see. [01:01:14] Let's see. [01:01:15] Here's another one raping his. [01:01:18] Oh, this should have been somewhere else. [01:01:20] Germany. [01:01:22] Germany, the AFD is surging, and it's partly surging because it's criticizing Donald Trump and the war in Iran. [01:01:29] There are lessons here in terms of just jumping behind bandwagons. [01:01:34] 27% supporting it. [01:01:37] In some provinces, it is going up to 42% in some German provinces. [01:01:44] And as a federal republic, being in control of some states actually makes a huge difference. [01:01:51] And then you see this story from Germany. [01:01:56] Small group, group of men who are clearly not very German, beating the daylight out of each other in broad daylight, laughing and screaming about it. [01:02:12] Yes. [01:02:13] Same story. [01:02:14] Yes. [01:02:15] And you could find endless stories that are much, much worse. [01:02:19] Austria, the Freedom Party, is leading with 36% in the polls as of 28 April. [01:02:28] They're gaining ground quickly. [01:02:30] Their opponents are losing ground, essentially. [01:02:33] And you see the same story. [01:02:35] Six year old raped in a flat in Vienna. [01:02:39] Oh, good God. [01:02:41] Four Syrian migrants gang rape 17 year old in an apartment. [01:02:47] Romania, they have a different set of objections. [01:02:51] They aren't being flooded as badly, but their main objection is the Ukraine war. [01:02:57] Because if you remember, Romania and Bulgaria gained their independence because the Russians kicked out the Ottomans. [01:03:02] The only reason we have independent kingdoms or independent states now in Romania and Bulgaria is because Russia kicked out the Ottomans. [01:03:10] If they were still under Ottoman rule, that kind of thing would still be happening because it was happening under the Ottomans. [01:03:17] And the pro EU party collapsed and is losing, and it seems that a right wing party that wants to be closer to Moscow is gaining ground. === Beatings as Prosperity Precondition (03:26) === [01:03:28] Why? [01:03:29] Because they get their energy from Russia. [01:03:31] Cheap energy equals prosperity. [01:03:33] It's a precondition for prosperity. [01:03:35] You can't have prosperity without. [01:03:37] If you don't have energy, you can't do anything else. [01:03:39] It's a precondition for everything else. [01:03:42] Everything rests on cheap energy. [01:03:44] And so they kicked out the pro EU party who wants to be in antagonism with the Russians, and they are about to bring in what is being referred to as a pro Putin far right party, which is the same story you hear everywhere. [01:04:01] And in the Netherlands, things are kicking off rather spectacularly. [01:04:07] Same story. [01:04:08] They're trying to bring in illegal migrants, calling them refugees. [01:04:17] They want to put them up next to a girls' hockey club. [01:04:21] I would suggest that's actually not a good idea. [01:04:24] I don't know why you would say that. [01:04:26] It's not the previous stories that might have provided it. [01:04:28] Well, because of the murders that will follow. [01:04:30] Yes, well. [01:04:34] And then the Dutch police, because these people in this town dare to protest, pretty much went all out. [01:04:41] This is a video that's worth watching. [01:04:46] Because the police come from one side, attacking the protesters, making them run in one direction. [01:04:51] Then they come from the other side. [01:04:55] These guys in jeans and in black tops, these are actually police officers. [01:05:01] Well, they just come in the mood. [01:05:03] And they just come at them with truncheons and beat them as they are running away. [01:05:08] These are just regular people in their town. [01:05:10] Yes, these are regular people in their town protesting for several weeks. [01:05:14] This is a different place. [01:05:17] They're trying to turn a former school into an asylum center. [01:05:21] And the Dutch police's reaction is, shall we say, spicy. [01:05:28] They drag the man off, beat him, and then they beat another guy for filming. [01:05:38] Essentially, this gentleman comes over to him and is clearly intimidating. [01:05:46] This guy is just standing there. [01:05:48] Standing there catches you, gives you a beating. [01:05:51] It's reminiscent of the Gilets Jaunes protests in France, where the state just sort of beat the daylight out of everyone. [01:05:57] This is just so infuriating. [01:05:58] You will be replaced, your daughters will be raped, and you will be beaten by thugs on the pay of the state if you say anything about it. [01:06:09] And then in the same town of Lustrecht, I'm guessing, eventually the protests got so bad that the locals tried to burn down the facility where the asylum seekers were trying to be housed. [01:06:22] I wonder what brought them to that point. [01:06:25] I mean, I think it was the beatings. [01:06:27] Yeah, it could have been the beatings. [01:06:28] I think it was the beatings. [01:06:33] And people are reaching a point where they're saying, you know what, we're done. [01:06:38] They're not going to live here no matter what. [01:06:41] We're not going to tolerate this. [01:06:43] And again, from Eva here, the context was in this particular locality was basically that the police just went around beating even children. === Orban, Attacks, and Masked Funds (06:44) === [01:06:55] And branding everybody far right and attacking families. [01:06:59] And the police and the state kept on ignoring them, insisting that they be housed in locations where they would clearly be a threat, not in some kind of prison. [01:07:11] And so they just started launching firecrackers at the facility, trying to set it on fire. [01:07:16] Again, though, this is the logical consequence of redefining patriotism in terms of the defense of a system and the defense of a value and the defense of a set of values. [01:07:25] Yep. [01:07:25] I find it interesting that obviously the AFD at the moment, I know more about Germany than some of these other European cases. [01:07:31] The AFD at the moment, many chapters of the AFD, as I understand it, in different states are getting into trouble with what in Germany is called the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, which tells you a lot about how German patriotism has been redefined in the post war era. [01:07:47] Again, it's about protection of a system rather than protection and love of a people. [01:07:53] And so, insofar as the AFD, despite loving the people, are a threat to the system, Then they need to register as a person's of interest on the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. [01:08:03] It is a form of idolatry where the system itself is placed as the focus of loyalty, as the locus of loyalty. [01:08:12] Whereas for most of Christian history, it was for God and country. [01:08:21] And country, implicit within it, what's the country? [01:08:24] It's the country, man. [01:08:25] It's the very thick network of allegiances that make a country a country. [01:08:31] All of Europe always fought under the same banner for God and country, or for God, King, and country. [01:08:38] But now it's for the system, the international rules, and these pesky countrymen bothering us get to be beaten because they object to the system. [01:08:51] They are at best an inconvenience and at worst an active threat to the integrity of the system. [01:08:56] Yes, exactly. [01:08:57] I mean, this just feels like another 1840s moment. [01:09:00] Europe is going to erupt. [01:09:03] This doesn't end well. [01:09:05] This never ends well. [01:09:07] And in Bulgaria, you see something similar. [01:09:10] I should have put Romania and Bulgaria together. [01:09:11] Sorry about that. [01:09:14] But, you know, the accusation is the same. [01:09:20] There is a Russia aligned figure who is now a threat to the support for the EU. [01:09:25] Now, mind you, the EU will always lecture you about human rights in Russia, it will never lecture you about the police beating unarmed protesters in the Netherlands because they don't want their daughters raped. [01:09:35] Yeah. [01:09:36] It will never lecture you about that. [01:09:39] It will never object to the French police beating the daylight out of the Gilets Jaunes. [01:09:44] It won't object to the British state having a two tier policing system where some groups are monitored with facial recognition and their phones are tracked and all of their movements are tracked, but other groups are ignored. [01:09:57] What kind of a person signs up to join the police and then spends their time going around beating families, children, because they have legitimate concerns about their safety and can sleep at night? [01:10:10] There's a reason why they're masked. [01:10:13] There's a reason why they're masked. [01:10:15] I mean, I can't say. [01:10:15] I mean, in the United States, ICE agents are masked because the left is saying we're going to kill you at home. [01:10:21] Yeah. [01:10:22] Here, they're beating up their own people, so they have to be masked. [01:10:27] I can't say what I think should happen to these chaps. [01:10:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:10:33] And you see the same story in all parts of Europe with them trying to protest to how the EU is leading things, how the Western establishment in general. [01:10:47] In Britain, in Australia, in the United States, and in the EU, is managing things. [01:10:52] But the remarkable thing about the EU is that they never give up. [01:10:56] So here's a story from Romania basically. [01:11:00] They disqualified the candidate who won the presidency in Romania because he was being supported by the Russians and the Russians had intervened in the elections. [01:11:10] It turns out that the pro EU party had made videos on social media. [01:11:18] Attributed them to the Russians and then used that as a pretext to nullify the election. [01:11:25] Which is genuinely brilliant. [01:11:27] Which is genuinely brilliant. [01:11:29] I mean, that's a level of evil here that we haven't seen before. [01:11:32] Which country was that again? [01:11:33] Romania. [01:11:35] Right. [01:11:36] Romania. [01:11:37] We see the EU basically building up slush funds for NGOs so that the NGOs can defend the migrants and can defend the. [01:11:49] Attack the racists and attack the Islamophobes and so on and so forth. [01:11:55] So they're spending 8 billion on NGOs, forming public opinion and making sure that you always have a bench of talking heads willing to go on television and gaslight the public. [01:12:11] They are admitting that in Hungary they pretty much did the same thing as they did in Romania. [01:12:17] They accused the former Prime Minister Orban of. [01:12:22] Leaking information from the EU to the Russians, and then actually it didn't happen. [01:12:28] They just admitted that it didn't happen. [01:12:31] They are winning in Hungary because now the new nominee for the foreign ministry in Hungary is going to re examine their asylum system. [01:12:45] And they're holding Hungary by the short and curlies, refusing to unleash money that they were supposed to get when Orban left until, presumably, They changed their approach to asylum seekers. [01:13:00] This is going to be a difficult one for Ptur Magyar to manage as well because he did expressly win the election in many ways on outflanking Orban from the riots on immigration. [01:13:09] Yes. [01:13:09] Because he presented Orban as a soft touch on the legal kind of immigration despite acknowledging his successes on the illegal front with the fence on the border with Serbia. [01:13:19] And so it will be interesting to see. [01:13:22] Obviously, you had all the usual suspects from Hillary Clinton to Alex Soros celebrating when Magyar won simply because he was not Orban and. [01:13:28] The hope was that business as usual will resume. [01:13:31] It will be interesting to see the metal that he's really made of, if indeed he's made of metal at all. [01:13:36] Yes, yes. === Currency, Tradition, and Narrow Doors (10:31) === [01:13:39] They're paying huge amounts of money to the mainstream media. [01:13:42] As the Canadians are doing. [01:13:44] I mean, Canada funds its state media quite extensively to make sure that they have the correct opinions. [01:13:53] But you have to throw in a bit of corruption there because it's entertaining. [01:13:58] The Spanish, it turns out, took a bunch of the COVID funds and used them to pay pensions. [01:14:05] That's kind of where EU money goes. [01:14:07] But it's getting to a point where really the whole economy is breaking down under these kinds of policies. [01:14:15] So, not only are we in the situation where the public wants one thing, the establishment comes up with all kinds of dirty tricks to impose the literal opposite on them, they do that by printing money, and it's getting to a point where they can no longer keep on printing money. [01:14:32] Because the growth in the money supply, as you can explain to us, at a time like this is pushing us towards way more level inflation, and we know what happens afterwards. [01:14:44] Yeah, I mean, at the moment, they're holding it. [01:14:47] I mean, everything's just getting debased on year by year. [01:14:50] But if we get the Green Party or Angela Reynolds stuff, they've got no choice but to just print it. [01:14:57] Exactly. [01:14:58] And none of this is making people's lives better because the growth from immigration in terms of population far exceeds the growth figures. [01:15:07] And Q1 is always the good quarter. [01:15:09] And Q1 is always the good quarter. [01:15:11] Why is Q1 always the good quarter? [01:15:15] Because a lot of companies, when they commit to their spending plans, they have a big pile of cash at the start of the year. [01:15:20] And so, like for my contracting, I invoice them at the start of the year. [01:15:24] I get that money. [01:15:25] That goes, you know, that makes my balance sheet look better. [01:15:29] But then I work it off for the rest of the year. [01:15:32] And so, Q1 tends to work that way because of how financial planning operates. [01:15:37] Like, take my case and just expand it across the board. [01:15:43] And people's living standards are collapsing and their security is falling apart. [01:15:50] And what's the EU's answer to this? [01:15:52] Don't you dare talk about it. [01:15:55] And when politicians say things, and which I mean, very few of them are economically literate enough even to say this, but when they're sort of told about the debt and they say, don't worry, most of our debt is denominated in our own currency, is that basically translation for we can print it? [01:16:10] That's that translation for we can inflate our way out of this by destroying your living standards. [01:16:15] The problem is that only gets you so far because eventually you turn the currency into toilet paper. [01:16:19] Indeed, but is that what they're basically saying? [01:16:20] I mean, yeah, I mean, to an extent, and also financial repression where they can control banks and insurance companies just to buy more debt. [01:16:28] The problem is, once you turn the currency into toilet paper, it's all fine. [01:16:32] If we produced our own oil and our own electricity, our own, you know, we could fully feed ourselves, if we could do everything ourselves, yeah, it would matter. [01:16:42] The fact is, we need dollars, we need euros. [01:16:45] So if you trash your currency through that, you basically just run out of imports and then things stop working. [01:16:52] So, I mean, yes, it buys you a bit of time once the system starts to break, but not very much. [01:16:58] Yeah, exactly. [01:17:01] So, yeah, don't criticize the EU is the theme of this segment, I guess, because otherwise they'll send the Dutch or the French police to beat the crap out of you while they're trying to flood you with migrants. [01:17:13] You're welcome. [01:17:14] No, I really don't like the Dutch police anymore. [01:17:17] Yeah. [01:17:19] Not good. [01:17:20] Not good at all. [01:17:22] Any comments you want to put out? [01:17:25] Let's see. [01:17:26] The next government needs to have a manifesto to start stating exactly what they'll repeal scrap. [01:17:33] Otherwise, it'll take two terms just to get everything through Parliament. [01:17:36] Yeah, I mean, this is why you guys are involved in the policy work that you're doing and in the research that you're doing. [01:17:42] And obviously, trying to expand a lot of it at the moment, I should say, too. [01:17:45] If I didn't give enough detail earlier, obviously, our main focus has been on Great Yarmouth First in recent weeks, but we really are trying to formalize processes within the policy unit, expand, get strong across the board at pace. [01:17:57] Yeah. [01:18:00] Cranky Texan says In terms of understanding fundamental drivers, debt is the Engine of the imperial system, correct. [01:18:06] Christianity fundamentally opposes debt, correct. [01:18:10] Therefore, the ruling class opposes Christianity, correct. [01:18:14] Yeah, I mean, usury is has been hated since the time of the Greeks. [01:18:21] The entirety of Western tradition relies on rejecting usury. [01:18:25] Don't put yourself into debt, don't live outside of your means, etc. etc. [01:18:30] What have the governments of Europe and of the West been doing for the last few decades? [01:18:35] Building up debt. [01:18:37] So, yes, that's quite correct. [01:18:41] Anyway, video comments, Samson? [01:18:47] We will do them tomorrow. [01:18:48] Okay. [01:18:49] Shall we have a look at some of the other comments here? [01:18:54] From my section, Zesty King says Keir Starmer is the last defender of the current system as it stands today. [01:19:01] No, no. [01:19:02] West Streeting is making a bit to keep on defending it. [01:19:04] This is Mandelson's creature. [01:19:06] Don't forget that. [01:19:08] Everyone agrees that it is not working and his position is untenable. [01:19:13] If Keir resigns, it will benefit West Street. [01:19:15] If he resigns later, it will benefit Andy Burnham, who has already allied himself with Angela Rayner. [01:19:21] That's correct, yes. [01:19:23] Dan's immigration policy will consist of a. [01:19:29] Thanks for that. [01:19:30] Hang on, let me read that one. [01:19:32] Oh, go on, man. [01:19:33] Where is it? [01:19:34] Where is it? [01:19:35] Russian garbage human. [01:19:36] Yes. [01:19:37] Ah, yes, yes, yes. [01:19:38] Yes, I like the idea of just having a narrow door. [01:19:42] Right. [01:19:43] Very narrow door. [01:19:45] Ah. [01:19:45] Yes, I think that's what he's saying. [01:19:48] Oh, I know how you read it now. [01:19:49] Yes. [01:19:49] Good God, you've got a filthy mind, haven't you? [01:19:51] Well, I know my audience. [01:19:55] Yes. [01:19:57] I love you guys. [01:19:57] Yes. [01:19:58] But no, the Allergy Immigration Policy. [01:20:00] Can you send me that book? [01:20:02] Oh, the Minotaur Milkman. [01:20:04] I think I might actually have to read it and do a segment on it. [01:20:09] Funnily enough, I did see it on your desk, not Ferris's. [01:20:11] Yeah, well, yes. [01:20:12] Yes, I've started on it. [01:20:14] Yes, you're really putting in the effort there. [01:20:19] Kevin Fox says I am wondering how many police officers will be on hand in Hammersmith on Saturday. [01:20:25] Rangers may well be a flashpoint as United Kingdom Patriots head there to support the owner and his family and business, and the cousins will no doubt go there to vent their frustration at the Nakba march. [01:20:39] Hmm. [01:20:41] Okay, I'm not aware of that, but I'll check it out. [01:20:44] Henry Ashman says So, if the Met are making the organizers liable for what is said at the rally, what is to stop a glowing attendee saying something naughty as causes Belly to arrest the lot? [01:20:55] Other than the structural incompetence. [01:20:57] No, I mean, this is a good point, and this is the problem. [01:21:00] I don't want to criticize Tommy Robinson over this, but you want people who are making a sound case, not just rabble rousing? [01:21:10] You've got to be a bit careful about this stuff given the constraints that Britain is under. [01:21:16] Yeah. [01:21:16] And at a certain point, you do need to ask the question what are we doing this for? [01:21:21] Do you want to win? [01:21:22] I can't remember what that American loudmouth Latina lady's called. [01:21:27] She is not the sort of person who's likely to endear her, to be able to engage the actual affections and concerns of patriotic British people on the ground in this country. [01:21:37] If not, what's the point? [01:21:38] It's a different mindset. [01:21:40] It's a completely different mindset. [01:21:42] And this is important. [01:21:44] But then you have, yeah, Tommy's meetings with the State Department, all of that stuff, which clearly factor into the decision making. [01:21:52] Lennon once said in any field of human endeavor, you should always have your heart on fire, but your brain on ice. [01:21:57] That's a very good quote. [01:22:00] Right wing Leninism. [01:22:01] That is a very good quote. [01:22:03] Richard says, You can't believe how much this government hates the British white people. [01:22:07] Yeah. [01:22:09] Yeah. [01:22:10] It's pretty obvious. [01:22:10] You want to read a couple of them? [01:22:12] Is it an instinctual hate or is it just that they've locked themselves into a process that they can't get out of? [01:22:16] It's the only thing they know how to do. [01:22:18] Look, if you remember Gordon Brown when he met, he was campaigning and he kissed this woman in 2009, I believe. [01:22:25] Gillian Duffy. [01:22:26] Yes. [01:22:26] Yes. [01:22:26] Called her a bigoted woman. [01:22:27] Yes. [01:22:28] And if you actually sort of study, I mean, I say study, if you listen to what she was saying, It could not possibly have been more inoffensive. [01:22:34] No. [01:22:35] No. [01:22:35] And he was a hot mic moment, called her a bigoted woman. [01:22:38] She was literally just complaining about how her son was struggling to get a job because there were more Polish and Romanian people in her neighbourhood than there used to be. [01:22:44] That's all she was saying. [01:22:46] Yeah. [01:22:46] I know. [01:22:49] Lifelong Labour voter as well. [01:22:50] Yeah. [01:22:50] And I remember that. [01:22:51] And clearly, when she was a working class woman, she didn't really have the words to skillfully articulate what was trying to say. [01:22:58] And she was talking about Polish and Romanians. [01:23:00] And she goes on a bit. [01:23:02] And then she concludes it was something like, you know, where are these people coming from? [01:23:05] You know, she doesn't really have the words to properly articulate it. [01:23:09] And I remember for about two or three months afterwards, every left wing media representative was out there mocking her, saying, Oh, where are they coming from? [01:23:18] Well, she said it herself, They're coming from Romania and Poland. [01:23:21] What an ignorant woman. [01:23:22] It's just, it's your concern is not valid. [01:23:27] Well, and it's it, you're. [01:23:27] Because you aren't valid. [01:23:29] Because what you represent is a continuity with tradition. [01:23:33] And that tradition is, you know, culturally homogenous, ethnically homogenous, Christian. [01:23:39] Yeah. [01:23:40] And these guys are post Christian libtards. [01:23:45] And they don't respect you. [01:23:46] They think that you're all ignorant because you didn't, you know, articulate your ideas as an essayist or something. [01:23:57] But the unspoken rules of post war morality, the major unspoken rule of post war morality is that the collective interests of European majorities are poisonous. [01:24:08] Yes. === Shifting the Overton Window (05:25) === [01:24:10] Value system. [01:24:11] Yes. [01:24:12] You cannot but react to people like Julian Duffy with disgust because, admittedly, she's groping her way towards a sort of kind of group consciousness there, isn't she? [01:24:21] Yes, essentially. [01:24:23] Meaning that she is a bigot by that definition. [01:24:25] Exactly. [01:24:25] But everybody else having group consciousness is not bigotry for some reason. [01:24:29] I mean, presumably you guys are on the lookout for the. [01:24:32] For us, his third segment is all about sort of dirty tricks that they're going to pull in and all the rest of it. [01:24:35] I mean, are you guys very much alive to the dirty tricks that will be coming your way? [01:24:39] I mean, we're certainly not. [01:24:42] Sentimental and naive about the smooth operation of the rule of law and the idea that the system is not rigged, the idea that the system is not gamed in order to favor certain outcomes. [01:24:52] And so, yeah, we're definitely alive to that sort of thing. [01:24:55] But it's precisely because we are alive to that sort of thing that we're not just interested in doing stunts for the sake of it because it might give you a kind of cathartic sense of gratification. [01:25:03] But if it's not actually getting the ball down the field, there's no point in engaging us in that sort of behavior. [01:25:09] There's a lot to be said for that sort of thing. [01:25:10] We all know that delayed gratification is white supremacy. [01:25:14] So you have to watch your words, sir. [01:25:21] It has become that. [01:25:22] It really has become that. [01:25:23] No, we are alive to this. [01:25:24] I know it's not your area, but I mean, for me, the whole key thing is that, you know, getting those branches set up, you know, getting those established across the country. [01:25:34] I mean, do you know much about what's going on with that? [01:25:36] Yeah, I mean, we have, obviously, we're trying to get it done as quickly as possible, but as you're implying, it has to be done carefully. [01:25:44] And you need to make sure that, you know, the proper vetting is in place. [01:25:47] You're not allowing yourself to be infiltrated. [01:25:50] We keep the circle at this point fairly small within Restore Britain in order to minimize those sorts of. [01:25:57] Those sorts of breaches. [01:25:58] But yeah, we're certainly not naive. [01:26:01] We don't think we're playing cricket here with fundamentally good, but maybe mistaken chaps on the village green. [01:26:08] We understand that Britain isn't that sort of society anymore. [01:26:11] And we wanted to become that sort of society again. [01:26:13] But as such, we have to adjust our operating system. [01:26:18] This isn't a gentleman's game, and we're aware of that. [01:26:20] Remember, they hired that actor to go against reform and Clacton, right? [01:26:25] I don't know if it was actually established in the end, but yes, there were certainly very strong suspicions that he was. [01:26:29] Basically, sent there as a plant. [01:26:30] Yeah, because he had a website where he advertised his work, including talking rough or speaking rough, as he called it. [01:26:36] So these kinds of things are happening, and they would do it again. [01:26:42] They would do much worse than that. [01:26:43] I mean, for God's sake, Rupert was raided at his home, right? [01:26:48] I think, well, one thing I'll say as well, I think this is part of the virtue, another virtue of Restore, as I see it, and Rupert, as I obviously know him fairly well at this point, is that he is genuinely politically ambitious. [01:26:58] I don't know how much time we have, I don't want to go on for too long. [01:27:01] But he is genuinely politically ambitious, and by that, I don't mean He wants a job at all costs. [01:27:05] What I mean is that he sees politics as an activity in which, if you want to get something done, you need to kind of reshape the mold that sets the terms for day to day politics. [01:27:16] And so, if the Overton window, like one of our functions is to shift the Overton window, and I think we've already had quite a lot of success in doing that. [01:27:24] Once the Overton window is shifted rightwards, as it has been, and as I hope it can be pushed a little more, all of a sudden, what would have counted as entrapment 10 years ago doesn't actually count as entrapment anymore because the standards have been updated a little. [01:27:37] So, I think this is part of the function of meta politics to make sure that the whole game of political wrangling no longer takes place on the terms of your adversaries, because then you have much more room for manoeuvre, much more room for ambition, much more room for just being frank about what you really believe. [01:27:54] I mean, I interviewed Sam Melia the other day, the guy who got jailed for stickers. [01:27:57] I wrote a piece about him when he was sent to prison. [01:27:59] Yes. [01:28:00] And when he was telling me during his trial, he was having to make the argument that the grooming gangs even existed, and that was only two years ago. [01:28:09] That's right, yeah. [01:28:09] And then he comes out of jail and he turns on the TV and there's news and I said, I'm going to go about the grooming guys. [01:28:14] So it just goes to show how far, even in the space of a couple of years, these things can move. [01:28:19] And that's why I was just so delighted when Rupert started doing those shows and they said, Oh, I think that makes you a racist. [01:28:24] He's like, I don't care. [01:28:25] That's right. [01:28:26] That is brilliant. [01:28:27] There's power in that because, you know, these terms like racist, terms like xenophobe, terms like bigot, whatever respectable meaning they might once have had, they now basically mean averse to conquest and in favor of survival. [01:28:38] If you translate them in almost any context, that's what they mean. [01:28:41] And once you make that more apparent to the British people, which is obviously a slow process, and when the term is being used in bad faith, you have basically half of the country, that is to say our side, saying, we no longer. [01:28:53] Language only has power if instituted by human agreement. [01:28:57] And so if half of the society is saying, well, no, you may as well be saying abracadabra, Emily Maitlis, then all of a sudden these terms don't have the power that they used to. [01:29:07] It requires cooperation from the right for this kind of moral blackmail even to take effect. [01:29:12] And so if we just. [01:29:14] You know, opt out of the whole game, the whole language game, and it no longer has the power it did. [01:29:19] Yeah. [01:29:19] So I think that's important too, because those are the sort of dirty tricks that they are trying. [01:29:24] So it has a lot to do with shifting the language, shifting the terms of politics, what is pompously called metapolitics. [01:29:29] Yeah. [01:29:30] I mean, I'll just read out one final comment. [01:29:31] That's a random name. [01:29:32] It says, All I've ever known is this farce of a system we're currently living in. === Opting Out of Language Games (01:50) === [01:29:36] Can one of you explain to me how life felt when things worked, or have none of you experienced it either? [01:29:41] Well, I mean, I might be to answer that one. [01:29:43] I mean, you're probably even too young to answer that one, Harrison, but might. [01:29:47] I actually missed the end of it. [01:29:49] What was the question? [01:29:50] Have you experienced living outside of this system? [01:29:54] I was born in 98, yeah. [01:29:55] Yeah. [01:29:55] Well, I mean, I was in 98, I would have been 18. [01:29:59] So then the whole kind of Blair White thing was going on. [01:30:02] But I do remember it beforehand. [01:30:04] And the best way I can describe it is just lack of being in a pressure cooker. [01:30:08] Like you feel weighed down today. [01:30:10] Like there's things that are being heaped on your shoulder. [01:30:12] Before then, and it wasn't just because I was a kid, I've had this conversation with people who are much older than me. [01:30:19] People just cooperated. [01:30:22] And the state didn't require, and you weren't hectored all the time. [01:30:25] You were just free. [01:30:26] And it's difficult to describe a sense of freedom when you haven't never experienced it. [01:30:32] But it's just that you weren't carrying weights on your shoulder all the time. [01:30:37] Best way I can try and put that across. [01:30:40] But no, with that, I'm afraid we have run out of time. [01:30:42] Oh, there were some comments about excellent that Harrison is on, all that sort of stuff. [01:30:47] So great. [01:30:48] So good. [01:30:48] Well, thank you, everyone. [01:30:49] Thank you. [01:30:50] Yes, no, thank you for coming in. [01:30:51] We always like to see the chaps come in. [01:30:53] Spread the good word. [01:30:55] So, yes. [01:30:56] Oh, one second. [01:30:57] Oh, God. [01:30:58] Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex says, Dan and Fidesz, have you gotten through the book I sent? [01:31:02] Thank you. [01:31:03] Oh, it was you, was it? [01:31:04] Hector. [01:31:05] Thank you. [01:31:06] All right. [01:31:07] Thank you. [01:31:07] Well, no, no, I quite like it. [01:31:09] I'm glad. [01:31:10] I don't like it, but I just think I'm studying women. [01:31:14] Aha. [01:31:15] Yes. [01:31:15] Yes. [01:31:16] Very problematic. [01:31:17] You wouldn't believe. [01:31:19] I think that's all the time that we have for today now. [01:31:21] That is all the time we've got today. [01:31:23] So, thank you for joining us and see you tomorrow.