The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1399 Aired: 2026-04-17 Duration: 01:28:31 === Breakfast with Bo Announcements (01:50) === [00:00:00] Hello, everyone. [00:00:00] Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Cetus. [00:00:03] Today is Friday, the 17th of April, 2026, and this is episode 1399. [00:00:10] And I'm very pleased today to be joined by Brother Bo and Brother Nick. [00:00:14] And we are going to discuss the ongoing Mandelson affair, which is a very dirty affair, the crimes of Julius Malema, and how invaders shamelessly gave our asylum system. [00:00:27] But before we go into the first segment, we have several announcements to make. [00:00:32] Number one. [00:00:34] Are you aware of Breakfast with Bo? [00:00:37] Because this is how I like having my breakfast with. [00:00:41] So, Monday to Friday, 8 a.m., Brecky with Bo. [00:00:46] There's nothing like the sound of Bo in the morning. [00:00:49] Yes. [00:00:49] Sounds like victory. [00:00:50] Sounds like victory. [00:00:53] Okay, good. [00:00:54] So, check out Breakfast with Bo here, the show. [00:00:58] Check it out. [00:00:59] It's really awesome. [00:01:00] The show, not the concept of just having breakfast with Bo. [00:01:03] And if you're not a morning bird, an early bird, you can just watch it afterwards. [00:01:07] There's no excuse. [00:01:09] Now, there has been a great Chronicles episode with Luca. [00:01:16] Check it out. [00:01:17] The Argonautica, this is part one. [00:01:19] We're talking about Jason and the Golden Fleece with Luca. [00:01:23] Definitely check it out. [00:01:24] And also check out the Summer of Kinks segment I did about Labour's policy now. [00:01:31] The Yes, Ex, Please, We're British. [00:01:34] Have you heard? [00:01:34] Oh, yeah, bringing in toys to Parliament. [00:01:36] Yeah, bringing in dildos and stuff in Parliament. [00:01:40] So. [00:01:41] I did a daily on this, which I was a bit unusually animated about. [00:01:47] And I definitely want you to check it out. === Bringing Toys to Parliament (15:11) === [00:01:50] Someone here pushed a dislike button. [00:01:53] Just an idiot. [00:01:56] Just, right, okay. [00:01:57] On that note, let's go to segment one. [00:02:00] Now, we also have Lad's Hour for 3 p.m. UK time today. [00:02:06] Do you know what you're talking about on Lad's hour? [00:02:08] Just out of interest? [00:02:08] I actually don't know. [00:02:09] I think it's about a resource called the Deportanium in the island of Deportania. [00:02:18] Maybe some people would like to join who aren't scheduled to join. [00:02:22] All right. [00:02:24] Okay. [00:02:25] I see. [00:02:26] All right. [00:02:27] Let's talk about a thing that's in the news today. [00:02:30] The main thing that's in the news today, the news cycle on Friday, the 17th of April, is all about Mandy. [00:02:36] It's a Mandy day, Peter Mandelson. [00:02:39] Once Lord Mandelson, first Baron Mandelson. [00:02:43] Yeah, so. [00:02:44] And this one's really bad. [00:02:45] This one's like, surely Starmer can't survive this one. [00:02:48] He survived everything else. [00:02:49] This one is so bad because they actually overrode the security advice, as I'm sure you're going to cover, which in an incredible way, which is just shameless and not what Starmer said. [00:02:58] Or did they? [00:02:59] They're claiming they didn't. [00:03:00] Should we get into it? [00:03:01] Yeah, we'll get into it. [00:03:02] Okay, so just to prove to you, it is in fact the main thing, at least in the British media today. [00:03:09] All the front pages, pretty much all the front pages go with Mandy. [00:03:14] Or there's one of Harry, but all the front pages talk about nearly all of them talk about this. [00:03:20] So, what it was, just to let everyone know who might not have been living under a rock for a while, is that Peter Mandelson, this chap here, was very good friends with Jeffrey Epstein. [00:03:32] And I mean, weirdly good friends. [00:03:34] He was closer with Jeffrey Epstein than I have ever been with any of my friends going back to people I've known since primary school. [00:03:41] Like emailing him all the time. [00:03:44] They were intimately related? [00:03:46] Well. [00:03:46] Well, to the point where he was given state secrets, wasn't he? [00:03:52] Well, yeah, that's the thing, yeah. [00:03:53] So I was just going to get on. [00:03:54] You've never given state secrets to any of your friends, is what you're saying? [00:03:57] Yeah, I've never done that. [00:03:58] Hand on my heart, I can say. [00:04:00] I've never been trusted with any state secrets, but nonetheless, if I had been. [00:04:05] You wouldn't have told us. [00:04:06] Yeah, yeah, right. [00:04:08] So you're crazily close to him, like emailing him all the time. [00:04:12] And of course, long after, way after his conviction, Jeffrey Epstein's conviction for paedophilia. [00:04:17] So, okay. [00:04:18] And then some of the actual real. [00:04:20] Dirty sort of crimes or crime adjacent things that went down. [00:04:24] One, it looks like Jeffrey Epstein gave Mandy money, if not through his husband, Mandy's husband. [00:04:31] Mandy's gay, he's married to a man. [00:04:33] And Jeffrey Epstein gave him money in various ways, got all sorts of money. [00:04:37] Mandy seems to have, or has just, did, back in the Gordon Brown years, email or just text Jeffrey Epstein with insider information, full blown insider information. [00:04:49] One, one that just politically that Gordon Brown was about to resign. [00:04:53] But also before that, when there was the credit crunch in between 07 and 09, that whole credit crunch, and Alistair Darling, the late Alistair Darling, remember, he was the Chancellor of the Exchequer. [00:05:03] Mandy was like the business secretary or something at that time, and he was in the room for all the big important moves during that when the Chancellor of the Exchequer was going to do bailouts and all that stuff. [00:05:15] Mandy was on the inside. [00:05:17] He quite literally left the room and he was messaging Epstein with highly sensitive. [00:05:23] Market sensitive information. [00:05:25] I mean, that is what a foreign agent would do. [00:05:30] You are literally then your loyalty is to Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal rather than to the government. [00:05:37] You're supposed to be a member of the cabinet of the British government, but your loyalty is actually to him, it seems. [00:05:43] There's no other way to aspire to that. [00:05:45] It's not mere corruption, it's more than that. [00:05:47] And he wasn't hiding it, to be fair. [00:05:49] He is known as the Prince of Darkness. [00:05:50] So, you know what I mean? [00:05:51] It's like, hello, I'm the Prince of Darkness. [00:05:53] We need you to be ambassador to the United States. [00:05:55] Yeah. [00:05:57] So, Manja's been around since the beginning, right? [00:05:59] He was in with Blair in 1997. [00:06:01] Quite literally. [00:06:02] He was there. [00:06:04] He was one of the architects of Mr. Blair's landslide in 1997. [00:06:09] He's been in and around. [00:06:10] And of course, even after Blair, he's in the Brown government. [00:06:13] And even now, throughout that whole 14 years of Tory rule, once Stalin gets back in, he's right there at the heart of it. [00:06:19] He's like one of the main, again, one of the main architects of Labour in this iteration of Labour government. [00:06:24] He's very high profile. [00:06:26] Yeah, super high profile. [00:06:27] I mean, in fact, I was going to leave it to the end, but I suppose it's something. [00:06:29] Isn't he a Lord also? [00:06:30] He was. [00:06:31] He's been stripped of that now. [00:06:33] Good. [00:06:33] In fact, here's a. [00:06:34] Something in the iPad said, Mandelson was given a secret spreadsheet to vet left wing MPs in Labour power struggle. [00:06:40] So there's even when Starmer got in, it was apparently Mandelson who was sort of telling, he was pulling strings in loads and loads of different ways. [00:06:51] Like Morgan McSweeney was his protege, for example. [00:06:55] Everyone agrees to that. [00:06:56] Everyone, no one denies that. [00:06:58] So Mandelson was sort of at the heart of, was certainly at the heart of New Labour, but it also seems to have been or was at the heart of. [00:07:08] The Starmer administration in loads and loads of different ways. [00:07:12] It was just super important, even if he's not like an actual MP, you know? [00:07:19] So, okay, let me just get my links back. [00:07:21] Sorry. [00:07:22] Where are we? [00:07:24] That one. [00:07:24] Okay. [00:07:24] So, some of the blurb on the front of the IA paper, because it sort of tells you all Starmer in peril again as number 10 turns on the Foreign Office. [00:07:32] He's just blaming the Foreign Office. [00:07:35] What it looked like after Madison was disgraced, shown to have done these things in that DOJ, US Department of Justice document dump, and Mandy's name's turning up all over the place in that. [00:07:46] He was disgraced at that point and had to leave the Labour Party and had his peerage stripped from him and is under investigation by the Cabinet Office and the police, and on and on and on. [00:07:57] Some of the questions then came back to the Prime Minister himself. [00:08:00] Why did you pick this guy? [00:08:01] Why did you parachute Mandy in to be US ambassador? [00:08:06] Because usually, to get that job, the highest ambassador, the highest diplomat there is, other than perhaps the foreign secretary himself, he was sort of the greatest front people for your country or for our country would be probably the king, the prime minister, perhaps the foreign secretary, and then someone like the ambassador to the US. [00:08:26] It's super, super high up. [00:08:27] And you would never get that job, usually, unless you've been an ambassador for like 30 odd years. [00:08:33] It's sort of the last thing they will give you at the foreign office, it's like the last cherry on top of your career. [00:08:38] You get to be. [00:08:40] That really high thing. [00:08:41] But no, they parachuted Mandy in. [00:08:43] Of course, you need vetting before they let you do that. [00:08:46] Even if you're a T boy at the foreign office, they'll have to vet you thoroughly to make sure you're not being blackmailed by any foreign powers or are an actual agent for them. [00:08:55] Yeah, but you would expect that. [00:08:57] Well, what should be isn't always what's the case. [00:08:59] Right. [00:08:59] You know what's mad? [00:09:00] I might have said it before. [00:09:01] Nigel Farage offered to do this before he came back. [00:09:04] He was seriously, I don't know exactly when it was, he was seriously suggesting that he could be this envoy to America. [00:09:09] Imagine if Starwood appointed him, neutralized the opposition, avoided the whole. [00:09:13] Mandelson scandal that would have been the forwarder you chess of the century, probably not realistic, but there's loads of point is there's loads of people who could have chosen other than Mandelson. [00:09:21] Oh, yeah, well, you should have really again that role should have been someone that's already in the foreign office their whole career and has been an ambassador to somewhere just below the United States in terms of prestige. [00:09:34] Like, if you're the ambassador to China or Germany or France or something like that. [00:09:40] And that's who that role would normally go to, somebody like that. [00:09:43] But okay. [00:09:43] But obviously, someone, well, obviously, probably someone was pulling Starmer strings and the Foreign Office. [00:09:50] So, okay, he wasn't vetted. [00:09:53] But the question now is, what did Keir Starmer know and when? [00:09:58] He's claiming he didn't know. [00:09:59] So, okay, on this blurb it says Prime Minister is accused of misleading Parliament after revelation that Mandelson failed security vetting but was given job anyway. [00:10:08] So, the key thing here is that Keir Starmer has gone before Parliament and in other places and saying all due process was done correctly. [00:10:16] He was vetted correctly. [00:10:19] But now it's saying that he wasn't. [00:10:23] MI6 should have done the vetting. [00:10:25] And they hadn't finished it when Starmer announced that he was actually now the new ambassador. [00:10:31] You can also argue that, in some respects, he was also in charge of the vetting himself. [00:10:38] If he was up that high up in Labour for decades, he was one of the top echelons of the Labour leadership. [00:10:46] So he was one of the few, you know, the select few. [00:10:51] So he would be doing the vetting in a way. [00:10:54] He would have the final authority to say, yeah, okay, you vetted him. [00:10:58] But maybe I don't want him. [00:11:00] He doesn't promote labor interests the way I see them. [00:11:03] So, in a way, he would be indirectly involved in that process. [00:11:07] Starmer? [00:11:08] No, Mandelson. [00:11:08] Mandelson. [00:11:09] All right, okay. [00:11:10] Yeah. [00:11:11] If he's that high up, he would be one of the key decision makers. [00:11:14] And I'm not talking about very small roles, like just the secretary of a random backbencher. [00:11:22] Well, there's one thing to sort of put somebody forward for a role, it's another thing to do the actual security checks on them. [00:11:29] Yeah. [00:11:29] So in this instance, it would have been MI6, the intelligence services. [00:11:33] MI6 comes under the purview of the Foreign Office. [00:11:36] Yeah. [00:11:37] Just to clarify what I said earlier, Andrew Neil has, he was initially denied developed vetting clearance in January 2025. [00:11:43] Foreign Office was encouraged to deploy a rarely used power to override the recommendation from security officials. [00:11:48] So that's what I was referring to before. [00:11:50] They were encouraged to override it. [00:11:52] I'm not sure, actually. [00:11:53] Right. [00:11:53] Well, that's the key thing here, isn't it? [00:11:55] Who did that? [00:11:57] Because as of right now, Number 10 and Yvette Cooper, the current Foreign Secretary, are not happy. [00:12:02] When it, Emerged last night, or that the mainstream media was starting to talk about the fact that Manson hadn't passed his vetting. [00:12:09] They called some sort of crisis meeting, I suppose you could say, at number 10 with Yvette Cooper and the most senior permanent secretary at the Foreign Office, Ollie Robbins, and they just made him resign. [00:12:19] We say, We're throwing you under the bus. [00:12:22] You've got to resign. [00:12:22] Starmer's running out of people to chuck under the bus. [00:12:25] This is the problem. [00:12:25] There's almost no one left. [00:12:26] It was either McSweeney, the other person that had civil service, whose name escapes me right now. [00:12:32] Again, now, not many left. [00:12:34] Yeah, right. [00:12:36] And so, okay, the blurb says Downing Street insists Keir Starmer was kept in the dark until this week about the fact that Mandy hadn't passed his vetting. [00:12:46] He insists and says, quote, Foreign Office officials overruled the security services who had warned that Lord Mandelson should not be allowed to become ambassador to Washington. [00:12:58] Okay, so. [00:12:59] In fact, go on. [00:13:00] I was going to say, it's a comedic interjection, but Starmer is going for the Tony Soprano defense. [00:13:06] Like, hey, don't tell me nothing. [00:13:07] Like, That's what he's claiming. [00:13:08] He didn't tell me anything. [00:13:09] So, what can you do? [00:13:10] He's deliberately kept out of the loop if you believe it. [00:13:13] Well, that's a classic defense all through time. [00:13:16] I deliberately don't tell me. [00:13:18] Nixon would do this all the time. [00:13:19] When someone like Haldeman or Ehrlichman would come to Nixon and try and start telling him what's really going on, he was like, don't tell me. [00:13:27] Seriously, don't. [00:13:29] If I don't know, I can then claim legitimately under oath that I didn't know. [00:13:32] So, don't tell me. [00:13:34] Sorry? [00:13:35] Yeah. [00:13:37] So, okay, let's hear from Styron himself. [00:13:39] This is him speaking this morning, I believe. [00:13:43] That I wasn't told that Peter Mandelson had failed security vetting when he's appointed is staggering. [00:13:51] That I wasn't told that he'd failed security vetting when I was telling Parliament that due process had been followed is unforgivable. [00:14:01] Not only was I not told, no minister was told. [00:14:04] And I'm absolutely furious about that. [00:14:07] What I intend to do is to go to Parliament on Monday to set out all the relevant facts in true transparency so Parliament has the full picture. [00:14:17] Question. [00:14:17] So, did the security services say that Mandelson failed vetting and Starmer didn't know? [00:14:26] Apparently, it seems that they would have, MI6 would have told the Foreign Office, but then the Foreign Office didn't tell Starmer. [00:14:33] Starmer or any other ministers, even. [00:14:34] Starmer told them, I don't want to know. [00:14:36] They went, the truth will set you free. [00:14:38] No, I don't want to be free. [00:14:40] Who knows about that bit? [00:14:41] Possible deniability, yeah. [00:14:42] He's claiming not even that, right? [00:14:43] He's claiming he just wasn't told. [00:14:44] The problem is with that, if you look at that clip, it just makes him look bad either way, doesn't it? [00:14:48] Yeah, well, that's. [00:14:48] I wasn't told anything. [00:14:49] I'm in charge of an absolute disaster here. [00:14:51] No one respects me enough to tell me these things, or you're corrupt, or you're not respected and incompetent. [00:14:56] Yeah. [00:14:57] It's one of two things either what he just said there, the clip we just saw of him, that's a liar, and that's just his narrative to try and save his own career, and it's all nonsense. [00:15:06] He did know, and he still just picked Mandy anyway because he was told to by whoever. [00:15:10] Either that, so he's in on it all and a complete liar, or a complete incompetent moron. [00:15:16] Yeah, who no one even thinks is in the loop and respects enough to tell. [00:15:19] Just the prime minister, you don't need to tell him. [00:15:21] Corrupt or weak. [00:15:22] Yeah. [00:15:22] Yeah. [00:15:23] Also, do we have any idea when the security services said that Mandelson failed vetting? [00:15:31] Because if that were months ago, that's even worse. [00:15:36] If it was yesterday, then maybe he has more of a. [00:15:39] Well, it said he was initially denied vetting clearance in January 25. [00:15:44] So the timing on it is quite interesting as well, because what it seems like happened was. [00:15:50] He was going through, Manson was going through the vetting process, and it takes a long time, weeks and weeks, actually, usually months, months and months, because they go through your life, your whole life, with a fine tooth comb. [00:16:02] And that will take months for MI6 to do that. [00:16:05] And it was while that was still going on that Manson just announced him as the ambassador. [00:16:13] So it's sort of like a fait accompli thing. [00:16:15] And then after their vetting was done, they realised that he had failed. [00:16:22] Effectively. [00:16:23] So, more like a vote of confidence in his person by Starmer. [00:16:29] Something like that. [00:16:29] Or just, he was just told, pick him. [00:16:31] He's just told by who knows, who knows, like truly powerful people. [00:16:37] Like, you know. [00:16:38] Well, Starmer doesn't say. [00:16:39] E Hood Barrack or something. [00:16:40] Yeah. [00:16:41] Or the fifth Baron Rothschild. [00:16:42] Or just Morgan McSweeney, who everyone knows wanted him. [00:16:45] So that's the non conspiracy version. [00:16:47] Starmer doesn't decide anything. [00:16:49] Does anyone believe Starmer makes any decisions? [00:16:51] Not even on a sort of conspiracy level, just on a, just not how he is. [00:16:54] He's a sort of, he's just a rule follower. [00:16:56] He reads. [00:16:56] Documents and then says what's in the document. [00:16:58] This is all he does. [00:16:59] He's known for having no ideas. === Starmer as Rule Follower (08:04) === [00:17:01] Like, even Boris Johnson apparently would call up on a Monday morning, Hey, why don't you do this? [00:17:05] Starmer's known for never calling up with any initiative or ideas. [00:17:08] Apparently, he's completely incurious as a person, never ever curious about anything or why things are the way they are. [00:17:14] Or anyone, and doesn't care about any of his team because he's just not like that. [00:17:17] And doesn't dream. [00:17:20] Weird, weird. [00:17:21] Okay. [00:17:22] So, one way, if they knew that Mandelson was going to fail his vetting, one way around that is just sort of just announce it, just do it. [00:17:30] And then that puts the Foreign Office and MI6 in a difficult situation. [00:17:34] They've either got to then completely go against their own government or just let it happen, just let it slide and just. [00:17:41] And that seems like maybe something like that is what happened. [00:17:45] This is silly, but what if Starmer's only dream from now on was just to appear Mandelson every night? [00:17:50] He can only have one dream. [00:17:51] It's just, ah, Mandelson, who like cost him his. [00:17:54] Job, he has to resign. [00:17:55] He only ever dreams about Mandelson. [00:17:57] Damn you, Mandy. [00:17:59] If it weren't for you, I would have been one of the most popular prime ministers of all time. [00:18:04] How you mock me, Peter Mandelson. [00:18:06] All right, so all this is happening, and it makes Starmer look either like he's lying or a complete incompetent. [00:18:15] It's got to be sort of one of those two things. [00:18:17] And everyone else has come out and said, You've got to resign, mate. [00:18:20] Conservative leader Olukemi Badenoch calls on the prime minister to resign and alleges he misled parliament. [00:18:28] Because he told the Commons three times that, quote, full due process, quote, was followed. [00:18:33] And Ed Davey and Nigel and everyone else have all come out and say, You lied to us in Parliament, Keir. [00:18:39] You've got to resign now. [00:18:41] He's come out today and just, or his chief of staff has come out and said, No, that's not happening. [00:18:46] I'm not going to. [00:18:47] If they had anyone at all who didn't have complications, you know, he'd be gone. [00:18:52] You've got Streeting, who was mates of Mandelson. [00:18:54] You've got Rayner, who's still waiting for a tax thing to be resolved. [00:18:57] You've got Burnham, who's not got a seat. [00:19:00] You've got Miliband, who's Miliband. [00:19:02] And so they've all got something wrong with them. [00:19:03] Otherwise, he'd be gone. [00:19:04] Well, the other thing is, imagine you are one of those big beasts, Miliband or Streeting or somebody. [00:19:12] You don't want that job before the local elections. [00:19:14] May and February. [00:19:15] May and February. [00:19:16] We're very close now. [00:19:16] He'll be gone after that. [00:19:18] Right. [00:19:18] No one's going to try and coup him out of power right now because that would just be terrible timing for them. [00:19:23] They would become new prime minister and then immediately be hit with a giant, giant humiliation and defeat. [00:19:30] No one's going to want that. [00:19:31] That's why I think he is going to stay for longer than lots of people expect. [00:19:36] Because when it comes to Stormer, you frequently hear people, listen to people saying, well, he is not going to last the summer. [00:19:42] He's not going to last autumn. [00:19:44] He's not going to last this winter. [00:19:46] But things are going that. [00:19:49] You know, towards a very bad direction. [00:19:51] I don't see how anyone would expect to change course in a non leftist way if they went into, if they took the premiership from Starmer. [00:20:04] What do you mean in a non leftist way? [00:20:06] Well, that there are ways to fix the country, but it's just not the leftist ones. [00:20:12] No, but yeah, everyone who takes over will be taking it further left. [00:20:14] Yeah. [00:20:15] That's why I'm saying that in their mind, though, they don't seem to be. [00:20:20] I don't think they actually think that they're going to make the situation better. [00:20:25] I still think Raina's going to go for it the second the locals are over. [00:20:28] She's already indicated it. [00:20:30] Anyway, sorry. [00:20:32] Yeah, look, Starmer insists he won't go. [00:20:36] That's one of the things. [00:20:39] There you go. [00:20:40] Starmer won't resign over Mandelson vetting row. [00:20:43] The other thing is when we watched that clip of him talking, saying, I wasn't aware until this week. [00:20:50] Well, there's some reporting saying that they did, he just did. [00:20:56] So here's a tweet from the Independence political editor, David Maddox. [00:21:02] Here's a screenshot where David Maddox is talking to somebody called Tim at the Foreign Office. [00:21:07] Hi, Tim. [00:21:07] I've been told by two sources now that Mandelson, in fact, did not clear vetting. [00:21:12] And this is back in September 2025. [00:21:15] He did not clear vetting with MI6, but the PM pushed his appointment anyway. [00:21:19] The problem was China, not Epstein, though. [00:21:22] That's interesting. [00:21:23] Is there any comment on this, David? [00:21:25] And Tim, whoever Tim is at the Foreign Office, just replied with vetting done by the Foreign Office in a normal way. [00:21:33] It's interesting. [00:21:33] They didn't take the name out. [00:21:34] Now everyone's just looking for like all the Tims at the Foreign Office. [00:21:37] Who's Tim? [00:21:38] Tim who? [00:21:39] Yeah. [00:21:39] And there's a. [00:21:41] Yeah, just the there's other tweets and other reporting saying that, in fact, I think it was from that same guy, or perhaps somebody at The Guardian was saying the idea that number 10 didn't know until this week is nonsense. [00:21:55] There's a number that's what they're reporting that there's a number of different data points showing that number 10 must have known that Mandy failed his security vetting long before this week. [00:22:09] So again, is he caught in a lie again? [00:22:11] Is number 10 caught in a lie on top of a lie on top of a lie? [00:22:15] There's anyone that will hang on to the end just blatantly lying at Starmer. [00:22:18] He doesn't seem to care about any of this. [00:22:21] He just doesn't care. [00:22:22] He'll justify it to himself in some way. [00:22:24] It's more stable with it. [00:22:25] Remember when he, like last time he said, like, the economy needs me to stay in place or something like that? [00:22:29] The international markets or something like that. [00:22:31] We need me to stay. [00:22:32] I think it's in the nation's interest that I stay for many, many years. [00:22:37] Again, it makes me think of Nixon. [00:22:38] I've done some long form content on Nixon and the Watergate. [00:22:42] It was a complete lie. [00:22:44] History's been indicated him. [00:22:45] No, it hasn't. [00:22:47] Sorry, go on. [00:22:48] No, go on, go on, go on, go on. [00:22:49] Well, you know, they were after him because he was just too basic. [00:22:52] I don't know. [00:22:53] I don't know. [00:22:54] I read tweets. [00:22:56] My history got some tweets. [00:22:57] No, he's a massive, massive liar. [00:23:00] He did some great things, though. [00:23:00] Nixon did. [00:23:01] Do you want foreign party? [00:23:02] Cambodia? [00:23:03] He did a number of great things. [00:23:04] The Salt Talks. [00:23:06] As a president, in a number of ways, he was very good. [00:23:09] In a couple of ways, he was a complete lying scumbag, though. [00:23:12] Smart guy. [00:23:14] Anyway, when it came to Watergate stuff, when it came to Watergate stuff, he ended up in that position where he's lying to himself really badly, like really, really badly. [00:23:24] And there's layer upon layer upon layer upon layer of evidence that he's lied and then piled liars on top of liars on top of liars. [00:23:30] And in the end, he's just sort of sitting on his own, like in a darkened room in the West Wing almost, like, oh, no, I didn't, I didn't, I couldn't possibly have done that and said that. [00:23:39] It's like, it's on the tape though, mate. [00:23:41] You did though. [00:23:41] Are you of the opinion that it's relatively mild compared to like scandals today or not? [00:23:46] What Nixon did. [00:23:47] Yeah, In the scheme of things, what Nixon did, the Watergate thing, is pretty shoddy and bad. [00:23:56] He probably didn't give the order to break in that the plumbers. [00:24:00] What he did that was really bad was lie about it and cover it up afterwards. [00:24:05] Something bad happened under his watch, which he probably didn't do or order. [00:24:10] But then when it became clear to him that something bad had gone on under his watch, he lied about it and then lied about lying about it. [00:24:17] It was the liar that got him, not the actual Watergate break in itself. [00:24:22] Is it worse than anyway? [00:24:23] We're talking about Nixon. [00:24:24] Is it worse than Hillary Clinton's emails anyway? [00:24:26] No, I don't think so. [00:24:29] I don't think so. [00:24:30] But anyway, when you're in power, when you're at the pinnacle of power, most people, most sort of the human psychology that lets you get to that position in the first place is the type of person that will cling on to it for dear life. [00:24:43] And I think that's what uh, Starmer is like, he won't give up on it until he's forced to. [00:24:49] I would imagine, right? [00:24:51] But how can you honestly, how can you? [00:24:55] Have the dream of becoming the prime minister and not care about the country because he surely can't be looking at the country right now and say, I want to preside over this. === Watergate vs Clinton Emails (10:11) === [00:25:06] I don't know. [00:25:09] It's mad. [00:25:10] All right. [00:25:10] There's a fair amount more that could be said, a few more layers to this and a bit more sort of the rumour mill going on, but I'll have to leave it there because I've run out of time. [00:25:16] But I'm sure the Mandy affair won't end. [00:25:20] It's not the end of it. [00:25:21] All right. [00:25:21] There will be more things on all of this, I'm sure. [00:25:25] I feel like it'll just keep going until Stalin was forced to go. [00:25:27] It's kind of like Boris. [00:25:28] At the end, there were just so many things. [00:25:30] And a lot of them were quite silly. [00:25:31] There was the cake thing. [00:25:32] There was Chris Pinscher. [00:25:33] But just the sheer. [00:25:34] The press have just decided. [00:25:36] I'm not sure they've totally decided to go after Stalin, but they've sort of semi decided if they go for him, it's. [00:25:40] Over, and there's lots of other things about him that are questionable that haven't come out. [00:25:44] We'll leave there so we don't end up in the gulag. [00:25:46] Ukrainian boys and their arson. [00:25:50] Oh, you're arson. [00:25:52] I was worried what you were going to say. [00:25:54] Do you want to read these or on me? [00:25:57] Yeah, well, if you could actually, my boo's in the way. [00:25:59] Yeah, never mind. [00:26:00] 14 barber says breakfast with Bo. [00:26:03] Any more potential guests? [00:26:04] JCVD or Jackie Chan, maybe? [00:26:07] I know they're not exactly relevant to the papers, but we nearly got Jackie in a deal with China. [00:26:12] Yeah, there will be more guests. [00:26:13] We're definitely having more guests. [00:26:15] So we'll let you know. [00:26:16] Jean Claude, is that? [00:26:17] Yeah, Jean Claude Van Damme. [00:26:19] That's JCVD. [00:26:21] I wouldn't mind talking. [00:26:22] You also need Sly and Arnie. [00:26:25] Okay, Cookie Boy 23. [00:26:28] Another, it never crossed my desk moment for Starmer. [00:26:31] How many is that now? [00:26:33] Cookie Boy 23. [00:26:36] If Starmer juxtaposes now, he might make the next season of Celebrity Traders. [00:26:43] And Bone Apple Tea Party always felt sorry for Nixon. [00:26:47] He assumed he'd get the same treatment about misdemeanors as the Kennedys. [00:26:51] Yes, but he wasn't part of the sort of old boys' network as much. [00:26:54] He was an outsider, self made man in many ways. [00:26:57] Yeah, he just came from Whittier, California. [00:26:59] He wasn't part of the Eastern Madison Avenue set. [00:27:03] But yeah, the leftist establishment did destroy him. [00:27:08] His re election was a landslide. [00:27:11] His re election was in like 72, is it? [00:27:13] An absolute landslide. [00:27:14] But yeah, they gunned for him with everything they've got. [00:27:17] And ultimately, he was on tape lying. [00:27:21] Was it only one state that he didn't win? [00:27:23] I don't know. [00:27:24] I can't remember the exact. 19th century. [00:27:26] I can't remember. [00:27:27] I don't know. [00:27:28] Right. [00:27:29] We have good news for South Africa, especially concerning Julius Malema, the leader of the EFF. [00:27:36] He has been sentenced to five years in jail. [00:27:40] He may appeal. [00:27:41] He will appeal, but there are high probabilities that he won't become a member of parliament. [00:27:48] He won't be a member of parliament in the future. [00:27:51] Right. [00:27:52] Let's give some context about it because we have spoken a bit about South Africa and the state of the country as well as how it, uh, Teaches us lessons in the Western world about what to do and what not to do. [00:28:08] And we need to give you some context in order to understand what exactly happened, who we are talking about, and why that is a good day for South Africa. [00:28:19] And also, people who are following news, we were happy. [00:28:23] I was happy when I saw what happened. [00:28:25] Right. [00:28:25] So, we have done a number of interviews. [00:28:28] Josh has interviewed Ernst van Zyl. [00:28:32] From the Afri Forum Institute, that we are going to talk about. [00:28:36] And they scored a major win in this case because they charged Julius Malema. [00:28:43] They initiated the legal battle against him. [00:28:45] So that was a major victory. [00:28:47] I also interviewed Robert Herzov and also interviewed Morning Shot. [00:28:54] Many of you in South Africa know them and are listening to them. [00:29:00] So check them out. [00:29:01] Check all these interviews out. [00:29:03] So we have been following the news about South Africa. [00:29:07] For a while. [00:29:07] So, we are going to talk about the leader of the EFF party. [00:29:11] It's basically a communist party in South Africa that is talking about land expropriation without compensation. [00:29:22] And it isn't, sadly, it isn't the only party who is talking about it. [00:29:26] So, it's more like, you know, the kulaks are bad. [00:29:29] Let's just do what we want with them for the greater good. [00:29:33] So, here we are going to talk about Julius Malema. [00:29:35] This is the leader of the EFF. [00:29:37] And the sentencing that he received for an incident in 2018 where he fired a gun here. [00:29:45] Let us look at this in public. [00:29:56] So he was in a stadium. [00:30:02] He was talking to his fans, celebrating the fifth anniversary of his party, if the information I saw is correct. [00:30:12] And he is famous for chanting constantly kill the boar, kill the farmer. [00:30:18] His catchphrase. [00:30:19] That's his catchphrase, yes. [00:30:20] And he is constantly talking about it. [00:30:23] He doesn't seem particularly half hearted when he's singing about it. [00:30:26] No, he seems to be really into it. [00:30:27] Yeah, it comes from the soul. [00:30:30] You see, that he really means it. [00:30:32] I was going to say earlier, like the idea of land appropriation without compensation. [00:30:37] That's a very sanitized way of saying what the reality of what that is. [00:30:42] Yes. [00:30:43] Isn't it? [00:30:43] Yes. [00:30:44] What it really is is going there and killing the boar and the farmer and any white person and stealing their property. [00:30:52] That's what that really means, isn't it? [00:30:54] Yes. [00:30:54] And what is interesting is that you have the ANC, that is right now the ruling party of South Africa. [00:31:00] In fact, I think it's ruling South Africa for decades. [00:31:04] That's Lufthansa Mandela's party, isn't it? [00:31:06] Yes. [00:31:08] They are now at the low, basically the lowest of their popularity. [00:31:13] But now with the EFF and what is going on, they will get some boost in their numbers. [00:31:20] But essentially, they are trying to play good cup, bad cup. [00:31:26] And the ANC is trying to appear constitutional. [00:31:30] But he is honest. [00:31:32] He's brutally honest about it. [00:31:34] And I will show you footage where he does say that there will be killing. [00:31:39] He's brutally honest about it. [00:31:41] In case you didn't get it from the song, kill the boar, kill the boy. [00:31:44] He's like, no, we actually mean killing. [00:31:46] I thought you did. [00:31:46] Oh, God, yeah. [00:31:47] He does mean killing. [00:31:48] And the question is, how emboldened does he feel in order to say it out loud? [00:31:54] And what sort of society does allow him, allows him to just constantly say such things and get away with it? [00:32:02] And one of the things here is that. [00:32:04] He wasn't persecuted necessarily for incitement to violence. [00:32:09] They did say that he did commit free speech and stuff, but it's a bit worrying. [00:32:17] You'd expect a bit more from the state, but it's a good day. [00:32:22] He did get a five year sentence. [00:32:24] So let's look at the light at the end of the tunnel. [00:32:27] For just firing that gun. [00:32:28] It's a standard third world celebration. [00:32:30] Yeah, just shooting John and me. [00:32:32] I mean, obviously, I think this man is a complete psychopath, the lowest of the low. [00:32:39] And great to see him in jail. [00:32:41] That's lovely. [00:32:42] Maybe his political career completely ended. [00:32:44] I don't know. [00:32:45] But you get five years for doing that in South Africa. [00:32:50] I would have thought a court would just let him off with a fine or a suspended sentence or something. [00:32:55] Five years just for that. [00:32:56] It seems, I don't know. [00:32:58] Obviously, I'm not that familiar with South African justice. [00:33:01] But the question is that there are some people who think that this was a very small sentence in a way, it was very light sentence. [00:33:09] All right. [00:33:10] Let's look at the context. [00:33:11] Sure, sure. [00:33:12] So he says he's chanting constantly kill the boar, kill the farmer. [00:33:16] And the charges included discharging a firearm in a built up or public area without sufficient reason, unlawful possession of a firearm, and unlawful possession of ammunition. [00:33:26] And he says, if they send me to prison, I will appeal immediately. [00:33:30] Right, so it's a bit more complex than that because he is essentially calling, he is committing incitement to violence in several ways, not just the song. [00:33:44] He has made several other statements. [00:33:46] And in the interviews I did with Robert Herzov and Morningshot, they said that every time that he does this, it's an indirect way of him telling people to actually go and do it. [00:33:59] And when it comes to farm murders, there is a spike in farm murders immediately after he goes out in these chants. [00:34:10] Not even that indirect, is it? [00:34:11] I was going to say. [00:34:12] Quite direct. [00:34:12] Yes. [00:34:12] Kill the farmer, then they do. [00:34:14] Yes, but he is, uh, he is the leader of the party and he is using this for, as a facade for plausible deniability because he says this is basically a revolutionary song and I'm just singing the song. [00:34:27] Everyone understands that in that context, just doing that is essentially incitement for violence. [00:34:34] Yeah, it's like it's a way in which he has a superficial. [00:34:38] I got it. [00:34:38] It's like when you put the N word in the song, it's in the lyrics. [00:34:41] You know what I mean? [00:34:42] And you're like, well, it's in the lyrics. [00:34:43] Yeah, yeah. [00:34:44] He's saying, kill the farmer. [00:34:45] That's just the song. [00:34:45] It's like, yeah, but you are choosing to sing that song at your rallies concert. [00:34:48] Don't you know any other song? [00:34:49] It makes a difference a bit about Sweet Caroline. [00:34:52] Yeah. [00:34:53] You're living on a prayer. [00:34:54] You're living on a prayer, mate. [00:34:57] But it's a classic thing that all throughout history is that you've got the political wing of a movement and a paramilitary wing of the movement, like perhaps Sinn Fein and the IRA, for example, or Hamas. [00:35:08] Or there's a whole number of things, like in the Rwandan genocide, or I'm thinking in the Serbian Yugoslavian wars. [00:35:15] You've got the political wing that says, We're just saying words. === Kill the Farmer Slogans (15:20) === [00:35:17] We're not doing anything. [00:35:18] We haven't got anything to do with people getting hurt and blown up and shot or anything. [00:35:23] We've done nothing wrong. [00:35:24] We're just talking politics. [00:35:26] When in fact, of course, they're actually. [00:35:29] It's not even indirect, really. [00:35:30] It's almost directly saying. [00:35:31] This has got to be the least subtle version of that. [00:35:33] Yeah. [00:35:34] And I was just going to say, exactly that. [00:35:36] And this, there's like no subtlety whatsoever. [00:35:38] There's no real firewall. [00:35:40] No. [00:35:40] This is like Jerry Adams showing up with a balaclava. [00:35:42] Like, it's like, bro, you're saying it. [00:35:45] Yeah. [00:35:45] So let us, in case you haven't watched this video, let us refresh your, let us show it to you. [00:35:57] Kill the poor, the farmer. [00:36:04] Kill the poor, the farmer. [00:36:15] So it's quite explicit. [00:36:17] I don't know if he's trying to imitate a bit of an Arnie accent. [00:36:22] Kill the boar. [00:36:23] It sounds like Austrian, like you're in an Arnie movie. [00:36:26] But, you know, if he goes kill the boar, kill the farmer, and prrr, pa, pa, prrr, pa, pa. [00:36:33] It is incitement to violence. [00:36:34] Let's not kill ourselves. [00:36:36] Of course it is. [00:36:37] Yeah. [00:36:38] Okay. [00:36:38] So we had here the court and the conviction in September 2025. [00:36:45] And it has several layers here. [00:36:48] It says here South Africa's Fabrant MP found guilty of hate speech. [00:36:52] Now, what is interesting is that when you look at South Africa, it's like the testbed for wokeness in a way, decades ago. [00:37:02] Because all the anti racist, anti white, Narratives and also tied in with third worldism, in a way, have been waging warfare in that country. [00:37:17] It's speedrun. [00:37:18] It's speedrun. [00:37:19] Starting decades ago there. [00:37:21] Exactly. [00:37:21] It's a glimpse of our potential future. [00:37:23] Yeah, it's the exact opposite of Japan. [00:37:26] Japan is on the other side saying, no, I don't want to start this. [00:37:30] South Africa is what Japan says ultimately no to. [00:37:34] Right. [00:37:34] So here, what happens also is that they have, if you look at the language they're using, it's entirely, it's a language that is used just to talk to first year or third year, second, third year undergraduates in Western universities. [00:37:50] They're using a very artificial language. [00:37:53] I'm not talking about the chanting, but when they're talking about anti racism and racism in South Africa, they're using a language that merits the question who are you actually addressing? [00:38:05] You're addressing a Western audience, a Western ecophobic audience. [00:38:09] So if you look at the Western press, like BBC and the Reuters, that I'm going to show you an article from, they are trying to be very lenient towards him. [00:38:19] They're trying to essentially say, well, Yeah, but whatever he says, it's internalized whiteness. [00:38:25] It's the white man's fault. [00:38:27] Yeah. [00:38:27] Have you noticed? [00:38:28] I mean, I'm sure you have from what you said, but the attitude towards South Africa is still like that. [00:38:32] It's incredibly lenient, no matter what they do. [00:38:35] You know, you talk to your average sort of liberal. [00:38:36] I have friends and friends who know people there. [00:38:38] They just can't believe the refusal to see what's happening still. [00:38:42] I mean, they won't let Elon Musk have Starlink there because he's white. [00:38:46] Yeah. [00:38:47] But people still, because of apartheid, they just won't ever. [00:38:50] They can just do anything, and it's still. [00:38:52] The white lib imagination is like, oh, it's all fine. [00:38:56] It's just an excuse for everything. [00:38:58] Just everything. [00:38:59] At some point, there was apartheid 30 something years ago. [00:39:03] Well, yeah, I mean, that was decades ago. [00:39:07] It's the classic thing when people will talk about the reality of the so called farm murders. [00:39:13] Let's call it what it is a pretty slow burn genocide, is what they are, really, in my opinion. [00:39:18] That's how I'd characterize it. [00:39:20] Sue me. [00:39:22] Sometimes, when people talk about those, you'll get the left leaning globalist types saying, No, it's just a conspiracy theory. [00:39:30] It's not anything like that. [00:39:31] It's no more than any other sort of murders and things, particularly. [00:39:36] Or, in fact, about, I don't know, probably about two years ago, maybe two, three years ago, there was a particularly bad spate, a spike in farm murders. [00:39:44] I saw the BBC did an article, did a piece about farm murders. [00:39:50] And the angle of the. [00:39:53] Of the piece they were doing was no violence from whites on blacks in South Africa has spiked. [00:40:01] Divorced from reality, completely divorced from reality. [00:40:03] There are some. [00:40:04] Yeah, the endless giving South Africa a free pass. [00:40:07] Endlessly. [00:40:08] Even the endless. [00:40:09] Endless worship of Mandela is sick as well. [00:40:12] Easily so, yeah. [00:40:13] But also look at the framing. [00:40:14] It's always about woke notions, it's about hate speech instead of incitement to violence. [00:40:18] And he says this explicitly here. [00:40:21] Let's look at that. [00:40:23] Must never be scared to kill. [00:40:27] A revolution demands that at some point. [00:40:31] There must be killing because the killing is part of a revolutionary act. [00:40:37] And he's leading a party that he says it's going to be revolutionary. [00:40:40] So he says, I want to kill. [00:40:43] I mean, that's straight out of Mao. [00:40:45] Yeah. [00:40:45] That could almost be a Mao, I think maybe is even basically a Maoist slogan. [00:40:51] You have to get dirty and kill people in order for this thing to happen. [00:40:55] So that's not hate speech, that's direct incitement to violence. [00:40:59] It says it's just a matter of time. [00:41:01] I'm just lurking, waiting for the opportunity to strike. [00:41:05] That is what he said. [00:41:06] Really unsubtly lurking, telling them I'm going to kill them all. [00:41:10] Yeah. [00:41:10] And here he was convicted for firing a gun in public in September 2025. [00:41:17] They say South African opposition politician Julius Malaba has been found guilty of illegal possession of a gun and firing it in public. [00:41:24] And they're talking about this and also the conviction of, again, they frame it as hate speech and stuff. [00:41:32] The trial for the occasion for the sentencing. [00:41:37] Here we have Afri Forum talking about the conviction in September last year. [00:41:42] We also did a segment about it. [00:41:43] Josh did, my colleague and friend Josh Firm. [00:41:47] And the charges included, as we said before, discharging a firearm in a built up or public space without sufficient cause, unlawful possession of a firearm, and unlawful possession of ammunition. [00:42:01] And here he got five years' sentencing. [00:42:04] And let us look a bit at Reuters. [00:42:07] It says here: as the heading was unfolding, hundreds of supporters of his far-left economic freedom fighters group gathered outside the court, wearing the party's trademark red berets and singing campaign songs. [00:42:19] And let me find exactly what I wanted to mention here. [00:42:25] They said something really commie-friendly. [00:42:29] I mean, the ANC are basically communists. [00:42:31] Yeah. [00:42:32] They're even further left than them. [00:42:35] Yeah, I'll move on because we don't have that much time. [00:42:39] But so what happened was that he was. [00:42:44] He says that he's going to appeal the prosecutor here, says it was by the grace of God that no one was hurt. [00:42:50] And there was. [00:42:53] He basically said that he is going to appeal. [00:42:56] And his response was basically, I've seen her ugly white face for too long about the magistrate. [00:43:04] Old tactic. [00:43:06] Nice guy. [00:43:07] Seems like a nice guy. [00:43:08] And he says he's going to go to the Supreme Court. [00:43:11] And let us look here at what he says, how he says he's going to respond. [00:43:15] The power of the EFF. [00:43:18] We prepare from all the fronts because we are fighting the enemy. [00:43:25] And the enemy is white supremacists. [00:43:29] We can tell you now no sober judge will ever agree that a person should. [00:43:37] One bullet and then he's sentenced for five years. [00:43:42] It is because she has not read her own judgment to know that a reasonable, normal presiding officer will never come to that determination. [00:43:55] So, comrades, we are done with her. [00:43:59] That's why when she said to me, You can live now on a free pay, I looked at her and I said, Bye bye. [00:44:09] Because I've seen an ugly face for too long. [00:44:13] So I'm going, I will no longer appear before that ugly white face. [00:44:18] I'm going to the highest court where they don't use emotions, they use the law. [00:44:26] So basically, he did the meme, it's just like saying the law is white supremacy. [00:44:31] That's what he is doing. [00:44:34] Yeah. [00:44:34] And back to the question of whether his sentencing was light or not, I think it was extremely light and generous. [00:44:42] Because this isn't just someone who just fired a gun for a celebration, you know, which is basically a retarded move, but some people do it. [00:44:50] It's someone who is constantly calling for violence. [00:44:56] That's incitement for violence. [00:44:58] And he's very honest and clear about the fact that he is lurking, basically. [00:45:03] He's just waiting for the opportunity to kill. [00:45:07] He has said it explicitly. [00:45:10] There is no hiding behind anything about it. [00:45:15] He is explicit. [00:45:17] There's no way of just trying to spin this in order to make it something different. [00:45:22] He is explicit about calling for violence. [00:45:24] It's just that he's saying, I'm waiting for the opportune moment. [00:45:28] That seems worse than the shooting in the air. [00:45:29] I mean, we talk about incitement. [00:45:31] He's there with a crowd, they're all heated up. [00:45:34] He's saying, go and kill the farmer. [00:45:36] Why is that not incitement? [00:45:37] Certainly worse than a tweet from Lucy Conley, isn't it? [00:45:40] It's saying, they're there, they're ready, they're hyped up. [00:45:42] He's saying, go and kill the boar. [00:45:45] The only point I would make, and. [00:45:47] Don't think I'm trying to play in defense on behalf of this scumbag. [00:45:52] Of course not. [00:45:52] But there's one thing to shoot a gun in the air illegally. [00:45:56] Okay. [00:45:56] And then there's the crime for that and being charged and sentenced for that crime. [00:46:00] And then there's the incitement to violence and hate speech and stuff. [00:46:04] Yeah. [00:46:05] Maybe it's just easier to get him on this thing. [00:46:07] Again, I'm happy that he's been put in prison and stuff. [00:46:10] And hopefully he rots there and they throw away the key and they bury him under the present, whatever. [00:46:14] But. [00:46:16] It is that thing of charging him for the not the actual. [00:46:21] I think, though, in every case, even if we try to explain it as an isolated incident, we will have to bear in mind contextual factors such as was he inebriated? [00:46:32] Was he of sound mind? [00:46:34] Was he trying to kill someone and he accidentally missed? [00:46:37] So, in every case, there are circumstantial factors that people have to take into account. [00:46:43] So, in this case, we aren't talking about a random dude, we are talking about the leader of the fourth party. [00:46:49] In polling. [00:46:50] So, who is basically saying, I'm waiting for the moment to strike. [00:46:55] So, maybe that's what they did. [00:46:56] But still, that's why I'm saying that for me, five years is a very lenient thing. [00:47:01] But, good thing is that if he gets this and if he's convicted, if the appeal doesn't go anywhere and he is convicted for more than a year, he won't be able to be an MP in the future. [00:47:14] That said, obviously, that's conditional upon the law staying the same in the future. [00:47:21] Right, so he goes here down with AfriForum. [00:47:24] He says, the response is that convicted felon Julius Malema knowingly compliments AfriForum if AfriForum is blamed by the EFF for ensuring equality before the law by insisting that politicians should also be prosecuted if they transgress the law. [00:47:45] Place people's lives in danger with the reckless use of a firearm, then we regard it as a compliment. [00:47:49] Nobody is above the law. [00:47:51] Well, and again, they are going to try and say that the law is white supremacy. [00:47:58] And here, there were some interesting confrontations in court, if you want to check it, but it's a bit awkward. [00:48:08] Here, Malema is giving the microphone to his son, who is continuing with down with Afrikaans, down, down with de Klerk. [00:48:18] Down, down with his racist magistrate, down. [00:48:21] So he's continuing this. [00:48:22] Aren't they like 30 years out of date? [00:48:24] The clerk. [00:48:26] Apartheid. [00:48:27] Yeah, but apparently they're never going to get over it because that's the founding myth of the permanent excuse for inaction, corruption, and disintegration. [00:48:38] And by the way, when Malema's in charge, the country's going to be so good. [00:48:40] It's going to work so well, so functional. [00:48:45] And here they are also making an indirect threat here. [00:48:49] Malema is saying the only thing we need to do is to make sure that this prosecutor who is arrogant and suffers from short man syndrome is taught a lesson. [00:49:00] Hashtag hands off Malema. [00:49:03] I consider this to be a threat, basically. [00:49:05] I don't know if you disagree with me or not, but also the National Prosecuting Authority has noted with concern that the circulation of content on X purporting to represent the EFF, in which statements contain serious threats directed at the Prosecutor involved in a matter before the Kugombo Regional Court, and they are strongly condemning it. [00:49:28] So, sounds like I'm not alone in doing this. [00:49:31] And one of the things that has to do with the political ramifications of it is that there are significant concerns that the EFF is very much person bound. [00:49:44] It's a party that is bound around the figure of Julius Malema. [00:49:48] So, if he's going to be in prison for five years, And he won't be able to be an MP in the future. [00:49:57] Maybe a substantial amount of the 6 to 12% of support that the EFF has goes to the ANC and other parties. [00:50:08] So that could give a boost to the ANC, which I'm sure that the supporters of DA won't want. [00:50:17] But at least it's a good thing to see people being met with justice, and I hope his appeal goes nowhere and that he, in fact, Goes to jail because he is basically someone who is incredibly corrosive for South Africa and he is calling for violence and he's quite adamant about it. === EFF Support and ANC Boost (14:51) === [00:50:38] So, good news. [00:50:39] A psychopath. [00:50:42] Insane person, really, let's be honest. [00:50:44] Yeah, and Fictagious says here if a reform councillor said what Ricky Jones said exactly in the same circumstances, would they get the same judgment Ricky did? [00:50:54] Oh, hell no, prison, same say, yes. [00:50:58] And obviously, that goes for other parties, uh, councillors of other potential parties. [00:51:04] Remind people about Ricky Jones, yeah, he was the Labour councillor who uh imitated a throat slashing. [00:51:14] With his hands, he made you not say, We have to cut their throats. [00:51:19] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:21] No, but he did this because he said that I was speaking metaphorically and all this stuff and said, Dude, you actually did it. [00:51:28] Stop lying. [00:51:30] Right. [00:51:32] Okay, cool. [00:51:33] Well, let's talk about the fake gay asylum seekers. [00:51:38] Atheists. [00:51:39] Fake and gay. [00:51:40] Atheist, gay, and abused asylum seekers. [00:51:43] Yes, domestic abused, atheist. [00:51:45] Bad luck, isn't it, for them? [00:51:46] They've had a real rough time of it lately. [00:51:47] Unfortunate. [00:51:48] They lost their faith, then they got beaten, then they became gay. [00:51:52] All nonsense, of course. [00:51:53] And you may have heard about it before because it's not really a new phenomenon. [00:51:55] What's quite new is the BBC are admitting it and have noticed it. [00:51:59] That's quite new. [00:52:00] And some of the details are also quite shocking. [00:52:02] So, all right, well, let's have a look. [00:52:04] So, this is a bogus website, staged protest and pretend atheist inside the fake asylum industry. [00:52:09] And they sent in this undercover reporter and they found all sorts from fake news websites to staged political protests, bogus medical conditions. [00:52:17] Asylum seekers and the advisors helping them are using an array of fabricated evidence to bolster their. [00:52:22] Fake claims. [00:52:22] It all amounts to a sham industry, which includes charging migrants for advice on how to pose as gay to claim asylum. [00:52:28] Other techniques include paying to write articles in atheist magazines and hiring someone to pretend to be a same sex partner. [00:52:35] So there's so much we can get into. [00:52:37] They go to Mile End in East London and they send in their undercover reporter posing as a Bangladeshi student and they meet this guy, Zahid Hassan Akhand, who calls himself a barrister, but he's not actually a practicing barrister. [00:52:50] All very dodgy already. [00:52:52] And some of the things that he offered were. [00:52:56] So, between two and three grand to get the type of evidence you need, there's a list somewhere of things that he offers. [00:53:03] For a legal fee of $1,500, it'd help them preparing your application, preparing you for the interview, taking repeated mock interviews. [00:53:09] But he says they'll need to create evidence, and that's where it would cost two or three grand to get the type of evidence that you want. [00:53:15] But this guy's happy to help. [00:53:17] And if the reporter was to declare himself an atheist, the process would start with making posts on social media insulting Islam or the Prophet Muhammad. [00:53:26] And the guy says to him, religious clerics will start making comments threatening to kill you. [00:53:29] Then you'll see that your evidence has been created. [00:53:31] So that's how you know when the clerics are threatening to kill you. [00:53:34] Like, this is exactly what we needed. [00:53:36] Now you're going to get a much more realistic application. [00:53:39] And so maybe we can have a quick look at the video where he's telling him how to go about it. [00:53:42] The undercover reporter is being spoken to. [00:53:47] Simple evidence, a me, Uje, quite a Jagge, but had a very quick refer to the Bariami, which again would actually Tarawi community, Bakisha, a thist or community after help for the Taraki catch corre. [00:53:59] A blogger, a liptaparan, a blogger, Hotobapnegil, after blogger, lip, up in social media, second K published corbinator Janakubisha, social media, social media, the liptaver. [00:54:09] To wish of website Gula, Judi, Jane Jami, Tisna, whatever. [00:54:15] K atheist K atheist night at the Janakum system, I have never projected for a note. [00:54:28] So, one route is pretend you're an atheist and start writing on social media. [00:54:33] I mean, all right, there's loads more. [00:54:38] It's completely shameless, isn't it? [00:54:39] Absolutely, utterly shameless. [00:54:41] All for Gibbs. [00:54:43] Also, they can live here and make more money than they could ever dream of in Bangladesh. [00:54:47] Yeah, yeah, and Pakistan and all these other countries. [00:54:51] Yeah. [00:54:51] All the other countries. [00:54:52] Like, you can't send me back to Syria or Iraq because they will torture and maybe even kill me for being an atheist. [00:55:00] And we, people at the Home Office, just go, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, you've got to stay here forever. [00:55:05] You've done a social media post. [00:55:07] How can that be faked? [00:55:08] But there is the other bit, though. [00:55:09] It's also, they're thinking of how are we going to respond to people who will call for their deportations if they commit crimes? [00:55:18] Well, they can't go back because they're gay. [00:55:20] They can't go back because they're atheist. [00:55:22] They can't go back because they don't have chicken nuggets there. [00:55:25] Mm hmm. [00:55:26] Yeah, so it suits the sort of activist judges and the system. [00:55:29] Well, they have got chicken nuggets there, they're just not as tasty as British chicken nuggets. [00:55:34] I mean, you're right, because they all went through one theme that keeps coming up here is like, oh, yeah, I've never had an application rejected. [00:55:40] So all these people, they just, it's never failed, this incredible scheme. [00:55:44] The Home Office just take anything these people say and go, oh, yeah, okay, tick, you can stay. [00:55:48] Bring your whole family then, in fact, now. [00:55:51] So, the political route was difficult, Akan said, requiring a legal case to be made against the applicant in their home country. [00:56:00] Much easier was pretending to be gay because they'll not dig too much into your past story. [00:56:04] For gay cases, it's private, but politics and atheism are public. [00:56:07] I think atheism seems about the same to me. [00:56:10] So, establishing that is a bit difficult. [00:56:12] So, he said we could connect you with people we know who do these things. [00:56:16] So, for a fake gay claim, the kind of evidence they provide includes membership in different clubs, taking you to different clubs. [00:56:22] Since in the asylum interview, you'll be asked which clubs you attend and similar questions. [00:56:25] You'll also be given a partner, and that partner will provide a letter saying, Yes, he was my partner. [00:56:30] Well, that's infallible then. [00:56:33] So that's how you pretend to be gay. [00:56:34] Gay for pay. [00:56:37] If you go to those associations, you will not get caught out. [00:56:39] Most of the people there are not gay. [00:56:41] And the reporter says, Have you dealt with similar cases where you know they're not gay or atheist, but it was successful? [00:56:47] Everyone is being successful, God willing, Akan responded. [00:56:50] If you listen and get the evidence arranged properly, it will be successful. [00:56:53] Amazing. [00:56:55] It's ultimately all just ultimately so they can live here, get benefits here, use the NHS, maybe have a job where it just pays a lot more than what they would get in the NHS or wherever. [00:57:08] It's all that, it's all just to sponge off us. [00:57:10] By the end of the three articles I read on this, I was just furious. [00:57:13] I was just like, I'm just death penalty. [00:57:15] It's infuriating, yeah. [00:57:17] He told him to first decide whether you will do it on atheism grounds or on gay grounds. [00:57:22] Exactly. [00:57:22] Then I will draw your full outline. [00:57:24] Vic, atheist, or gay, and then we're ready to go. [00:57:28] Because it's not like it's, I mean, rather, it is a zero sum game. [00:57:33] For every NHS appointment they get, for every job they get, it's one less for the people that are already here, isn't it? [00:57:40] Yeah. [00:57:41] So it's not just like it's just like an endless gravy train and we're just being mean by not sharing it with everyone else in the whole world. [00:57:48] It's not that, is it? [00:57:49] It's not how it goes. [00:57:51] The thing that's most infuriating to me, perhaps, the element of it, is that in the first instance, anyway, we had all these things. [00:58:00] Out of sort of benevolence, out of the goodness of our heart, to let certain types of asylum seekers, genuine asylum seekers, people that were genuinely fleeing from persecution stuff. [00:58:12] And they're just absolutely taking, making a complete mockery out of everything. [00:58:16] It just couldn't be any more shameless, any more sort of morally disgusting. [00:58:20] Right. [00:58:21] There's a complete moral vacuum. [00:58:23] I don't think these people even know what morals are. [00:58:24] I know it is as disgusting as it could possibly be. [00:58:27] Legal advisors help migrants pose as gay to get asylum undercover BBC investigation fines. [00:58:32] So, this is the more detail on the gay part. [00:58:35] So, there's a whole list of things they do here. [00:58:39] So, again, their undercover reporter went in. [00:58:42] They found that one law firm charged up to seven grand to bring a fabricated asylum claim and promised that the chance of refusal by the Home Office was very low. [00:58:49] Fake asylum seekers visited GPs pretending to be depressed in order to get medical evidence to bolster their cases, one even lying about being HIV positive. [00:58:57] That one seems more like something you'd have to prove. [00:58:59] But one immigration advisor boasted that she had spent more than 17 years helping bring fake claims and said she could arrange with someone to pretend. [00:59:05] They'd had a gay sexual relationship with a client. [00:59:07] One undercover reporter was, our undercover reporter, sorry, was even told he could bring his wife over from Pakistan once he got asylum in the UK and she could then make a fake claim pretending to be a lesbian. [00:59:16] And that one comes up later. [00:59:17] It's absolutely shocking. [00:59:20] So, can I just make a point about this? [00:59:22] Because I've seen this in the news cycle the last couple of days. [00:59:26] Just to stress the point that this isn't a small thing, this is a small number of cases like this that the BBC's just happened. [00:59:36] To find it's thousands and thousands and thousands of people every single year doing this, a giant industry of the people offering to help them. [00:59:45] Yeah, right. [00:59:47] It's not just one or two, yeah, it's a massive thing. [00:59:52] There's a whole industry, a blight on our society. [00:59:54] It's been going on for decades. [00:59:56] I mean, she said 17 years there, so yeah. [00:59:59] Um, yeah, and again, this one's saying you know, fee of 1500 or further 2,000 to 3,000 to create evidence. [01:00:08] And this is an incredible video about it. [01:00:10] So they basically went to an event in Beckton and they just admit at the event. [01:00:17] I mean, look at the picture for a start. [01:00:19] Are these people gay or do they all look exactly like migrants? [01:00:23] No, how can we tell? [01:00:24] Sorry. [01:00:25] Because they're not dressed well. [01:00:26] You can see from the bottom half, it's completely obvious. [01:00:31] This guy explains it here. [01:00:32] These are people at the event just blatantly saying, nah, there's no gays here. [01:00:37] One after another, those attending tell our undercover reporter that many people at the meeting are not really gay. [01:01:03] Nobody is gay here. [01:01:04] I make a point. [01:01:06] I don't even care if you are gay. [01:01:08] If you're from A country that persecutes homosexuality. [01:01:12] That's your problem. [01:01:13] That's not the British state's problem, is it? [01:01:15] Sounds like a you problem. [01:01:16] Yeah. [01:01:17] You live in Bangladesh or Syria or somewhere and it's a problem for you. [01:01:22] Yeah. [01:01:23] That's your problem. [01:01:25] How is that our problem now? [01:01:27] Right. [01:01:27] You've hit on it there. [01:01:28] You just physically get here and say, I'm gay. [01:01:30] You can't send me back. [01:01:31] Really? [01:01:32] You're going to manipulate us with that. [01:01:34] Yeah. [01:01:34] Behind all of this is the incredibly lefty assumptions that, you know, if you're depressed, oh, well, you're depressed. [01:01:41] You should have said, obviously, you can come to the country and do anything you like. [01:01:43] It's like, Well, no. [01:01:45] So, yeah, behind it all is the assumption that these things are automatic passes being gay, being depressed. [01:01:50] So it's like, not really. [01:01:52] No. [01:01:53] No, exactly. [01:01:54] So it's tapping into the weakness of our system. [01:01:56] They're just laughing at us, as we know. [01:01:58] It's completely obvious. [01:02:00] So this undercover reporter ends up going to meet this guy, Mezadol Hassan Shakil, and he sort of pretends to be in the office, sort of above board. [01:02:11] He says, oh, well, no, there's nothing we can do. [01:02:14] So. [01:02:15] He says, basically, he says that you can't do it. [01:02:19] But then, within a few hours, they get a call from this person, Tanisa. [01:02:22] And suddenly, in Urdu, she says, she was much more enthusiastic about helping our reporter stay in the country, discussing how he could apply for asylum on the grounds that he's gay. [01:02:30] Listen to me, there's nobody who is real, she says. [01:02:32] There's only one way out in order to live here now. [01:02:34] And that is the very method everyone is adopting. [01:02:37] So they met, she wouldn't give a number, but she meets him in her house. [01:02:42] So she sits on her bed and just says, look, here she is. [01:02:45] And she just says, look, here's how it goes down. [01:02:47] This is how you do it. [01:02:48] You pretend to be gay. [01:02:51] You come with the most flamboyant dress to the home office and then they'll give you a card. [01:02:57] There's people saying you've got to go to the gay clubs. [01:02:59] We'll tell you where they are. [01:03:00] We'll take photos of you. [01:03:01] This is all in the article. [01:03:02] Dress like the village people. [01:03:03] Yeah, yeah. [01:03:05] Have a working knowledge of Liza Minnelli. [01:03:08] It's that level. [01:03:09] We need a snap of you doing the YMCA on the dance floor, holding a strawberry daiquiri. [01:03:14] Boom, you're in. [01:03:14] You can almost imagine seeing, nah, this is not working at all. [01:03:17] You are Freddie Mercury tat. [01:03:19] I'm going to need you to be a lot more gay. [01:03:21] Yeah, yeah. [01:03:22] Imagine it. [01:03:23] Yeah, you're doing about a four gay. [01:03:25] I'm going to need you an eight. [01:03:27] It's like. [01:03:27] We've got a bunch of pink feather boas out the back. [01:03:30] Yeah, yeah. [01:03:30] We could get you out there. [01:03:31] Go full Liberace. [01:03:32] Name five Pep Shop Boys songs. [01:03:36] Yeah, exactly. [01:03:36] Never go full Liberace. [01:03:37] Who was the lead singer of Erasure? [01:03:39] Go, boy George. [01:03:40] I understand. [01:03:41] Yeah, yeah. [01:03:42] That's what they say. [01:03:43] You don't really want to hurt me or you don't really want to deport me. [01:03:46] Why are you good? [01:03:48] So, there's no checkup to find out if the person is gay. [01:03:51] Denise has told our undercover report. [01:03:52] The main thing is what you say. [01:03:54] You just have to tell them, I am gay and it is my reality. [01:03:57] Talk about it's a lived experience being used against us, you see, this nonsense of our system. [01:04:01] It's your lived experience. [01:04:03] In Beau's Britain, in Beau's home office, someone comes to me and says, You can't send me back to wherever because I'm gay. [01:04:09] I'm like, No, it's not our problem. [01:04:12] Off you go. [01:04:13] Yeah, that's a shame for you. [01:04:14] That's a real bad shame for you. [01:04:16] Yeah. [01:04:16] Bye bye now. [01:04:18] You can tell the lad to understand. [01:04:19] There is an individual. [01:04:20] You can tell the lad to understand. [01:04:21] There isn't enough diversity in your country. [01:04:23] Go back to you. [01:04:25] Diversity should be your strength. [01:04:27] Yeah, go and create a gay community in Bangladesh or Pakistan. [01:04:32] Good luck to you. [01:04:33] Yeah, we don't need you here. [01:04:34] We don't want you here. [01:04:36] This is where I got really angry. [01:04:38] So, the full approach will take this I'll fully prepare for the interview by compiling a comprehensive package for you, including photographs of you at clubs, various other pieces of supporting evidence, an organizational letter, additional photographs of you biting pillows, top or bottom, you know. [01:04:53] I mean, that's an airtight application. [01:04:56] We've got some arseless leather chaps here. [01:05:00] If you put these on, we'll do a quick snap. [01:05:02] Bob's your uncle. [01:05:03] Yeah, yeah. [01:05:04] I know. [01:05:04] It's incredible. [01:05:06] So, I will give you a letter from someone along with which we'll take a few photographs, and that person will write that they have engaged in physical sex with you. [01:05:15] I mean, the shame of it for these people as well. [01:05:17] If they're not gay and they're from these cultures, they just have to totally debase themselves. [01:05:20] How is it not really, really humiliating for them? [01:05:22] Really humiliating for them. [01:05:23] It's incredible. [01:05:24] Is it worth it for a crappy job at like. [01:05:27] Stacking a shelf in Sainsbury's or something. === Domestic Abuse Claims Exposed (10:37) === [01:05:29] Yeah, it's flat market rubbish. [01:05:30] I mean, so this, she says it's going to cost $2,500 and the cost will go up if it's refused and they have to appeal. [01:05:37] And this, look at this. [01:05:38] I was like, I'm fuming here. [01:05:39] You can live here and work and you're also able to claim benefits. [01:05:42] And that's why I was like, and then this bit. [01:05:45] But if it was successful, that would mean for his wife back in Pakistan, what that would mean for his wife. [01:05:49] He said, what? [01:05:50] Because they got the undercover person saying, what about my wife? [01:05:52] And she says, well, if you call her here, then we'll apply for asylum for her as well. [01:05:56] Once she's here, we can make her a lesbian. [01:05:57] Yeah, but it's like, You're gay, she's a lesbian, and you're both in the country living together. [01:06:02] Right. [01:06:02] So, what is interesting here is that if they turn one gay and they give benefits and stuff, then they'll say they have the right to a family life. [01:06:12] So that's why they're trying to change the definition of the family and also try to change laws in order to give more and more gibs. [01:06:19] So, say, right, you get one gay in and then you can bring everyone because people who are gay in the eyes of the law have the right to a private and family life. [01:06:31] Yeah, but except unless he's got his wife there, how's that going to work? [01:06:33] Although she's a lesbian. [01:06:34] Yeah, but you're assuming their gender. [01:06:37] Right. [01:06:39] I slipped up. [01:06:41] It's stupid though, isn't it? [01:06:43] So, claiming to be hyper gay, but also I've got a wife. [01:06:47] I know. [01:06:49] It's shamelessness. [01:06:50] We're just absolute mugs. [01:06:51] We're just the ultimate mugs. [01:06:53] It's so pathetic. [01:06:54] And so, this bit even annoyed me as well. [01:06:56] We showed our footage to Anna Gonzalez, an expert immigration lawyer with 30 years' experience. [01:07:00] She said, Tenisa was clearly breaking the law, committing fraud by manufacturing a claim to give to this person. [01:07:04] Yes, we noticed. [01:07:05] People like that are just really making things harder for legitimate asylum seekers and refugees. [01:07:09] I mean, it's like, who will think of the legitimate? [01:07:12] What about the people in this country who are just being absolutely rinsed by these scumbags? [01:07:15] She's like, oh, the poor legitimate ones. [01:07:16] I don't even care about the legitimate ones. [01:07:18] I care about. [01:07:18] Don't care about them either, yeah. [01:07:20] That's what I saw in the news this morning that the Green Party had pulled up the BBC on this. [01:07:26] It was on one of the front pages that they'd had an issue with this BBC reporting on this over the last few days. [01:07:31] The Green Party saying, basically saying, won't anyone think of the legitimate gay asylum seekers? [01:07:38] I know. [01:07:38] Won't anyone think of the legitimate atheist asylum seekers? [01:07:42] No, no, I don't care. [01:07:44] Britain isn't an overthrow car park for the human detritus of the world. [01:07:48] Right. [01:07:48] That comment. [01:07:49] A little bit more with the domestic abuse claims, because people actually have been domestic abusing you're claiming it. [01:07:54] I can see that is disgusting, but it's still secondary to like they're just abusing the system in an obscene way. [01:07:59] Because that's the other one they do claiming to be gay, claiming to be an atheist, claiming that you've been abused. [01:08:03] Got stuff on that. [01:08:04] Right. [01:08:04] Yeah, but you need to prepare for the gay atheist defense. [01:08:08] Right. [01:08:09] Because it's, you know, it's double the excitement, you know. [01:08:14] I've been beaten for being an atheist by my boyfriend. [01:08:18] Yeah. [01:08:18] Triple whammy. [01:08:20] Triple threat. [01:08:20] They can't send you back now. [01:08:23] You mentioned the numbers. [01:08:24] Pakistan had the most asylum claims citing sexual orientation. [01:08:27] So they had 578 in 2023 claims. [01:08:33] 578. [01:08:34] Obviously, there aren't that many gay asylum seekers from Pakistan. [01:08:37] Bangladesh, 175. [01:08:38] Nigeria, 103. [01:08:39] India, 39. [01:08:40] Uganda, 35. [01:08:41] Other 447. [01:08:42] So those are some of the stats. [01:08:44] And by the way, another way, which we haven't mentioned, of pretending to be gay is, of course, to sign up for the Tories. [01:08:49] So this guy who's an LGBT con says while the number of people who claim to be LGBT for asylum is low, 3% of all cases, there is absolutely fraud. [01:08:57] I've seen firsthand as vice chair for LGBT cons people trying to sign up and then ask for proof of membership to use an assignment applications. [01:09:04] It's like that is the airtight. [01:09:05] Well, I mean, the Tories, obviously, I'm gay. [01:09:07] Yeah. [01:09:08] Nearly all of them are. [01:09:09] Yeah. [01:09:10] So that just made me laugh. [01:09:11] I'm a boy. [01:09:12] I'm a Tory. [01:09:13] Yeah, yeah. [01:09:13] I'm from Pakistan. [01:09:14] How can I be gay? [01:09:15] Oh, you're obviously going to be homosexual then. [01:09:17] Yeah. [01:09:17] Why can't you speak English? [01:09:18] And you've got water on you from the boat. [01:09:21] Well, don't look at that. [01:09:22] So, yeah, that is incredible. [01:09:24] That was just hilarious. [01:09:25] That was true. [01:09:26] But you've also got the fake domestic abuse claims. [01:09:29] So, This is shocking and disgusting as well. [01:09:32] So, let me just introduce it. [01:09:36] So, it said, where's the nice bit I had? [01:09:37] Basically, it says migrants are falsely claiming to be victims of domestic abuse in order to stay in the country. [01:09:42] They're exploiting rules by ministers to help genuine victims of abuse to secure permanent residence and inadequate home office checks allowing them to do so on the basis of little evidence. [01:09:50] While their unsuspecting British partners have had their lives turned upside down by the false accusations. [01:09:55] I don't know why they're with them anyway, but they say that. [01:09:57] And then it's like, now you've been accused of being a domestic abuser by a migrant who's tricked you into marrying or being a partner with you. [01:10:03] It's absolutely insane. [01:10:04] The number of people claiming fast track residency on the basis of domestic abuse has now reached more than 5,500 a year, a number which has risen more than 50% in just three years. [01:10:14] In one case, a British mother who'd left her male partner after reporting him for rape was subsequently accused by him of domestic abuse. [01:10:21] So, this was a legitimate rape accusation. [01:10:24] They went, Well, you domestically abused me. [01:10:25] False allegation, she says, made so he could stay in the country. [01:10:28] The allegations were never proven, but the partner was able to use them to avoid having to return to Pakistan. [01:10:34] So imagine that. [01:10:38] Imagine that. [01:10:38] Imagine what a scumbag you would have to be. [01:10:41] You come to this country illegally, you strike up a relationship with a Brit, you rape her, and then you claim she abused you and you can't be sent back. [01:10:51] Yeah. [01:10:53] Welcome to the UK. [01:10:54] And the Home Office go, yeah, you get to stay. [01:10:57] Yeah. [01:10:58] What? [01:10:59] So they went undercover again. [01:11:00] Oh, on earth. [01:11:01] And they went undercover again. [01:11:02] They said, look, I've got a mistress. [01:11:04] I want to leave my wife. [01:11:05] But then I might be deported. [01:11:06] How's that going to work? [01:11:07] And the guy explains to him how you deal with it. [01:11:09] Because he can't stay in the country. [01:11:10] While arranging this meeting, Eli quickly proposed a solution. [01:11:14] He'll make up a story for the Home Office, one in which our reporter is a victim of domestic abuse. [01:11:19] Just to be on the safe side that I understand, you have something like maybe you made a story for me. [01:11:25] What are you going to say? [01:11:27] I'll create one. [01:11:28] I will create one. [01:11:32] I have one. [01:11:33] You have already one? [01:11:34] Yeah. [01:11:35] What evidence are we going to use? [01:11:37] Because she doesn't hit me or anything. [01:11:39] So there's no domestic violence. [01:11:41] So how will it work? [01:11:44] Orally, you two have been having an argument. [01:11:48] And then she's been telling you things like, remember, I'm the one who brought you here. [01:11:54] I will put your kids off. [01:11:56] So just say, you don't even need any evidence other than like, oh, she's been saying, like, I'm the one who brought you here. [01:12:00] And it's like a psychological abuse. [01:12:02] That's all you need to claim domestic abuse. [01:12:04] And it's made up anyway. [01:12:06] This is just a completely amoral fifth columnist. [01:12:12] This is an absolute scumbag. [01:12:14] Yeah, it's basically foreigners. [01:12:15] Absolute scumbag. [01:12:17] Getting money to lie so they can get more foreigners in. [01:12:20] Yeah, completely taking Mickey out of the entire system and stealing money from us and resources and ruining whoever his partner was supposed to be, ruining her life, absolutely ruining her life as well, into the bargain. [01:12:33] So disgusting. [01:12:33] It's as bad as it could be. [01:12:35] And he even has a letter from the Home Office. [01:12:36] So, carry on. [01:12:37] Psychological domestic abuse. [01:12:39] What is it? [01:12:40] You know, when things blend with your mind. [01:12:43] Yeah. [01:12:44] Yeah. [01:12:44] To reassure him, Eli shows our reporter a letter he's got from the Home Office about another client. [01:12:50] Your application under the Migrant Victims of Domestic Abuse Concession has been successful. [01:12:57] You've done that. [01:12:58] That's what I'm showing you. [01:13:00] Yeah. [01:13:00] So you've got nothing to worry about. [01:13:02] So it's the man. [01:13:03] Yeah. [01:13:03] But mine is not genuine. [01:13:05] I know. [01:13:06] Not genuine? [01:13:07] What does this legal act? [01:13:08] I know. [01:13:09] They don't care. [01:13:10] That's what I'm showing you. [01:13:11] Here's the liar. [01:13:12] Here's a disgusting liar. [01:13:14] Just go with it. [01:13:15] And this guy's neither a registered solicitor nor a regulated immigration advisor, meaning it would be illegal for him to provide immigration advice or services. [01:13:20] But the letter showed that the Home Office had been sharing official correspondence with him about paying clients seemingly without checking his credentials. [01:13:28] Shock there. [01:13:28] Known at the Home Office. [01:13:29] So the Home Office just completely in on the scam, essentially, then? [01:13:34] Yes. [01:13:34] Essentially just in on it. [01:13:35] Either because they're ideological or they're just rubbish. [01:13:38] Yeah. [01:13:38] I mean, it's absolutely shocking. [01:13:40] I mean, so yeah. [01:13:41] So they use this scheme to basically stay for much longer. [01:13:44] They can, if the application is successful, they're granted permission to stay for three months and can claim benefits. [01:13:49] During those three months, they can apply for indefinitely to remain in the UK while foreign nationals are given the right to live, work, and study in the UK permanently with no time limit. [01:13:57] When foreign nationals. [01:13:58] So basically, it's much faster than applying for permanent veterans. [01:14:01] You do it this scam way. [01:14:02] Normally, you'd have to wait five years, even under a reform government. [01:14:08] Just wait five years, don't commit any crimes, pay your taxes, wait five years, bosh, you're in. [01:14:13] That's a bit too long, isn't it, for these people, though? [01:14:15] Strike up a relationship with some poor Brit and then claim she abused you. [01:14:19] You'll get fast tracked three months. [01:14:21] Pay for fake evidence from a dodgy, fake lawyer. [01:14:24] And then the Home Office will go, yeah, tick. [01:14:27] But as Steve Edgerton points out, the BBC does not deserve praise for this. [01:14:30] I reported this in the Telegraph years ago about fake gay asylum claims. [01:14:33] As have many others. [01:14:33] The BBC had eight years to use its fast resources to investigate this. [01:14:37] Too little, too late. [01:14:38] So there is that. [01:14:39] Good point. [01:14:39] We've seen these cases before, we've heard about them. [01:14:41] So, but it is significant. [01:14:43] He's right, of course, but it is also significant. [01:14:45] Why have the BBC now finally done it? [01:14:46] That is interesting. [01:14:47] Is the Overton window or something shifting? [01:14:49] Or has the government said, do this so that we have the political capital to do it? [01:14:54] You wonder which comes first because suddenly Home Office investigation after BBC finds migrants making false claims to stay in the UK. [01:15:02] So they basically said, oh, we're shocked at this. [01:15:04] You know, we can't believe it. [01:15:05] We will do something. [01:15:06] You know what? [01:15:07] Edgington makes a great point there. [01:15:09] And you do wonder why the BBC are doing this now. [01:15:12] My gut feeling is that it's deliberate, a bit of a pressure valve, tiny bit of a pressure valve. [01:15:22] The pressure cooker is so pressurized, so close to blowing up that they have to release a little bit of the pressure. [01:15:31] And that's what this is. [01:15:33] I feel like I might be wrong entirely. [01:15:35] Have all the several commentators say, hey, look, Labour is more right wing. [01:15:40] Yeah, because they're suddenly saying Prime Minister spokesman told reporters both the Home Office and the Immigration Advice Authority investigate the claims made by the BBC both yesterday and today to ensure anyone potentially abusing our immigration system is held accountable. [01:15:50] So suddenly they claim they're going to do anything. [01:15:52] Will they do anything? [01:15:53] I'll be surprised, but it's interesting that it's suddenly gone mainstream. [01:15:57] That's my bit. [01:15:59] Shall I read these rumbles? [01:16:03] So, is that the right one? === Home Defense Law Debate (05:54) === [01:16:06] Yeah, okay. [01:16:06] So, why don't the interviewers do the prove it test by lopping it out and asking for a BJ? [01:16:13] Ha! [01:16:14] Right, right, Mr. White. [01:16:15] That's one way of doing it, certainly. [01:16:17] All and Firebird says, We are all being successful, God willing, said the ungodly Muslim forster to the fake atheist, fake gay Muslim illegal. [01:16:24] Are we living in a Monty Python skit? [01:16:26] How do we get out? [01:16:26] Well, if we are, Carl won't find it funny. [01:16:28] That's all I can tell you. [01:16:30] Tiffany, if you grew up in an Islamic culture where your sacred book says you can lie to get what you want, why would you live with those people? [01:16:40] Right. [01:16:40] Do we have videos? [01:16:43] Samson? [01:16:46] Yeah, we do. [01:16:47] Excellent. [01:16:48] I like your videos, my friends. [01:16:50] Let's play them. [01:16:53] We are going to be patient. [01:16:55] Yeah, they are loading. [01:16:56] Samson is telling me so. [01:16:58] We're going to chill. [01:16:59] Shouldn't they have been loaded by now? [01:17:02] Preloaded. [01:17:03] We're playing good cup, bad cup. [01:17:05] I'm the good cup. [01:17:06] Bo's the bad cup. [01:17:08] I'm running around. [01:17:09] There's law and order. [01:17:13] Right. [01:17:13] I'm running around. [01:17:14] Hello, loaded seaters. [01:17:16] Against my better judgment, as I was telling Carl, I'm saving up for a house, I'll do a video message to a Because I have a question with personal investment. [01:17:22] But firstly, sorry I had to leave the party early, my back was really hurting me. [01:17:27] Secondly, sorry to worry Dan when he thought I might need an ambulance for my back injury from martial arts. [01:17:32] Thirdly, I didn't book a hotel ahead of time. [01:17:34] And turns out Express Holiday Inn will let you book a hotel on arrival. [01:17:39] Now, I have some personal investment in this question being answered, so if I missed it when I was there, please answer it, please. [01:17:51] I don't think that I can't tell you, but this sounds a bit, yeah. [01:18:00] It's about whether they should change martial arts self defense laws because someone tried to shoot a BB gun at him and he disarmed them and almost got arrested. [01:18:07] So it's a massive problem in this country. [01:18:09] That's why Restore wants to bring in that home defense law, home is your castle, where you can, someone comes in your house, you can basically shoot them. [01:18:16] That's my paraphrase of the policy. [01:18:17] That may not be exactly as Harrison put it. [01:18:19] There was that guy, I can't remember the guy's name, but he only died recently, Tony something. [01:18:23] Tony Moss. [01:18:23] Tony Martin, right, yeah. [01:18:25] Where these same kids, I think they were kids, the same young men kept burgling him. [01:18:30] They did it multiple, multiple times. [01:18:32] In the end, he sat and waited until they broke in, then he shot him with the shotgun, killed one of them. [01:18:36] And he went to prison for manslaughter or whatever. [01:18:39] Yeah. [01:18:40] There's many such cases, aren't there, that someone who's actually a security guard in a shop tackles someone who's doing shoplifting, they get in trouble. [01:18:48] Or a bus driver tries to stop someone stealing someone's purse, they get in trouble, they get fired. [01:18:54] I just saw a video from a book, you might have seen it going viral, where he says, I've worked all my life in this country, why am I bothering? [01:19:00] He goes, I know a guy who does shoplifting, he makes a grand a week shoplifting while also claiming benefits. [01:19:05] That seems entirely plausible. [01:19:10] I need you to do this. [01:19:12] Give us your fucking hands now! [01:19:14] I know! [01:19:15] Give us your hands now! [01:19:16] No, he's been in the first place. [01:19:18] I'm not even here, do I? [01:19:19] You're a doctor puppy! [01:19:20] Go, come here! [01:19:21] Buddy, come out the way, Alice. [01:19:23] Come out the way. [01:19:25] Give us your fucking hands now! [01:19:41] I mean, what are we watching? [01:19:43] What's going on? [01:19:45] I'm probably basically watching how a white boat gets treated. [01:19:48] So, there's no duckers to us now. [01:19:50] Okay. [01:19:50] And he managed to eat. [01:19:52] I don't know what he's done, then why are they trying to arrest him? [01:19:55] I'm not fucking wrong, I wanted to video it. [01:19:59] Doesn't look good, but he might have done something wrong for all I know. [01:20:02] Also, I always say to people don't resist arrest, even if it's completely unfair and unjust. [01:20:07] If a cop's trying to arrest you, you've done absolutely nothing wrong, let them do it. [01:20:14] Because if you resist, they'll start doing that to you. [01:20:16] They'll start tasering you, trying to beat you up, hit you with a baton, all that stuff. [01:20:20] Just let them put you in the back of their car, even take you to the station. [01:20:24] And if you haven't done anything wrong, you should be okay. [01:20:26] It's really frustrating. [01:20:27] It's not fair. [01:20:29] It's not fair. [01:20:30] But if the second you try and fight back, that's what you'll get into that situation. [01:20:35] I wouldn't. [01:20:36] No, you took your arrest really well. [01:20:38] Yeah, all the times I've been arrested. [01:20:40] You're so calm. [01:20:42] I've never been arrested in my life. [01:20:43] But yeah, it may be completely unfair, but they're trying to make you put your arms behind your back. [01:20:49] And it's an injustice, but just let them do it. [01:20:52] Otherwise, they'll pepper spray you, they'll taser you, they'll start hitting you with a stick, whatever. [01:20:56] But yeah, no, I'm not saying that they should do otherwise. [01:21:00] Because I agree with you. [01:21:01] It's just they, two police officers couldn't handle. [01:21:08] Couldn't handle him. [01:21:09] He got away. [01:21:10] It was just a bigger dude than them, and they're not used to fighting or whatever. [01:21:13] Yeah. [01:21:14] Maybe they need to look at the DI in hiring and believe. [01:21:16] Oh, they've lowered all the fitness standards to where, like, I could pass them. [01:21:19] Like, the bleep test has been lowered. [01:21:22] It's all been anyone can pass it now. [01:21:24] Quite often in Swindon, we see tiny little WPCs. [01:21:27] Like, honestly, a little five foot one little woman. [01:21:31] She's obviously like 100, 110 pounds. [01:21:35] And the body armor she's wearing looks like it's a little kid dressing up. [01:21:38] Ridiculous. [01:21:39] Absolutely ridiculous. [01:21:40] They're not going to do anything. [01:21:42] To any bloke who's going to resist arrest, they're not going to be able to come close to overpowering him. [01:21:49] Not in a million years. [01:21:50] It's ridiculous. [01:21:51] Why are they on the beat? [01:21:53] There's a whole number of jobs female police officers can do at a desk. [01:21:59] Don't make them go out on the street. === Police on Street Jobs (05:58) === [01:22:01] Cooking the meals. [01:22:02] Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. [01:22:04] Don't make them have physical altercations with people on the street because they're not going to win it. [01:22:07] They have to admit men are stronger and therefore that men and women are different. [01:22:10] And can you imagine the can of worms that would open? [01:22:12] Let's go to the next one. [01:22:14] And now, here's a little more Japan maxing for you guys. [01:22:18] Yes, this is the cherry tree outside my house, outside the sunroom. [01:22:26] Yep, spring is upon us, and the cherry blossoms are blooming. [01:22:31] And yes, the cherry blossom is an important part of Japanese culture. [01:22:38] Nice. [01:22:39] Thanks, Michael. [01:22:41] Next one. [01:22:43] Like I said, the cat videos will continue until morale has improved. [01:22:48] So, until I see improved morale, I will continue the cat videos. [01:22:55] Thanks. [01:22:56] There will be more cat videos. [01:23:00] And here's Charlotte. [01:23:01] More Charlotte. [01:23:04] I like wholesome videos because we always have the blackfields and stuff. [01:23:09] We need more cheery stuff. [01:23:11] I prefer a dog video. [01:23:14] I find puppies and dogs so much cuter than cats, but I'll take a cute cat video. [01:23:18] I'll take it. [01:23:19] Oh, this is great. [01:23:20] Richard Harris as Cromwell. [01:23:21] I don't know what this is going to be, but this is one of my favorite films of all time. [01:23:25] Me here. [01:23:26] Then, sir, why are you leaving? [01:23:28] Over to my sons to make a better life for them. [01:23:30] England is no longer a country for a young man. [01:23:32] This country crawls with greed and corruption. [01:23:35] It is governed by adventurers and profiteers who think more of their pockets than their principles. [01:23:40] We have a king who taxes the rich beyond its means and steals the land from the poor to maintain his lavish court. [01:23:47] And our man dare not speak his mind for fear of imprisonment. [01:23:50] It is fitting a young man should want to change the world. [01:23:53] Not the world, sir. [01:23:54] Only England. [01:23:57] Is that supposed to be his son in the movie? [01:24:00] No, that's supposed to be Ayrton. [01:24:02] Okay, okay, okay. [01:24:03] Not his son, no. [01:24:04] Imagine what Cromwell would make of the asylum claims. [01:24:07] He thought there was corruption then. [01:24:09] When you get people that, for some reason, despise Oliver Cromwell, they're either sort of an Irish Catholic or something, or. [01:24:19] They just don't know history. [01:24:21] They've been told Oliver Cromwell's evil in some way, and they haven't actually read what he did and said, how he behaved. [01:24:28] Oh, he cancelled Christmas. [01:24:29] There's a bit more to it than that, actually. [01:24:32] Question We committed genocide in Wexford. [01:24:34] Oh, it wasn't in response to Irish genocides, no? [01:24:38] Oh, okay. [01:24:39] Would the royalists hate Cromwell? [01:24:41] Well, of course they would, yeah. [01:24:42] Yeah, yeah. [01:24:44] Yeah, I'm a monarchist. [01:24:45] I just love the monarchy so much, okay? [01:24:48] All right. [01:24:50] Promo did amazing things for this country. [01:24:52] Amazing things. [01:24:54] Let's go to the next one. [01:24:56] You're not going to. [01:24:57] I'm staying out of it because I can't do anything. [01:24:59] I can win. [01:25:00] All right. [01:25:06] That was me, was it? [01:25:08] I wasn't paying attention for the first few seconds there. [01:25:10] Now, see me. [01:25:12] Is that Avebury? [01:25:14] Yeah. [01:25:15] Looks like. [01:25:16] Stone Circle Avebury. [01:25:19] Nice. [01:25:31] Turk. [01:25:37] Right. [01:25:38] Okay. [01:25:38] Let's go to the comments. [01:25:40] Do you want me to read comments for your segment, Bo? [01:25:42] Or do you want to read comments? [01:25:43] Sure. [01:25:43] Yeah. [01:25:43] If you don't mind. [01:25:44] Right. [01:25:44] Cambrian Kulak says Foreign office will be captured by globalist interests. [01:25:49] They serve big money and foreign interests. [01:25:52] Have done since the first half of the 20th century, I'd say. [01:25:56] Michael Drebelbis, but let's be clear MI6 is compromised and probably used Epstein as an asset for years. [01:26:03] The idea that any intelligence service didn't gladly use Epstein as an asset is ludicrous. [01:26:10] Kevin Fox says, for those of us old enough to remember, it makes me wonder how Mandelson gets anywhere near government when you consider what happened to Profumo for having a bit on the side with Kristen Keeler. [01:26:22] At least she was over 18, unlike Mandelson's preferred companions. [01:26:27] Yes, in Profumo's case, there was the Russian involvement in the form of Yevgeny Ivanov, but Mandy was dealing with a guy who sold state secrets to the highest bidder or used them as leverage against world leaders and the elite. [01:26:39] Tough to decide who was worse. [01:26:41] Okay. [01:26:42] Yeah, the Profumo affair. [01:26:44] Again, like Nixon, like the severity of scandals from yesteryear, just nowhere near as bad as what they are now. [01:26:55] Nowhere near as bad. [01:26:56] Like what Perfumo just had an affair, basically. [01:26:58] That's all it was, essentially. [01:26:59] That's all it really was. [01:27:01] There's more to it than that, but nowhere near as bad as. [01:27:05] Oh, anyway. [01:27:06] Stellius, how can you. [01:27:08] Oh, we are running out of time. [01:27:10] I'll speed it up a bit. [01:27:11] Yeah. [01:27:12] Queen Hanley says stomach could pull the ultimate. [01:27:14] Pro gamer move and burn the house down on the way out by calling a general election to make sure the next Labour leader isn't prime minister. [01:27:23] Right, so Kevin Fox again, where they don't use emotion, they use the law. [01:27:28] Well, that's not true. [01:27:30] If they had used the law, he'd have got 15 years. [01:27:34] Yeah, correct. [01:27:35] Derek Power, master of Chippies, says, oh, Malema meant the other literally, which apparently doesn't literally mean literally. [01:27:43] Got it. [01:27:44] Kool Aid Sloan. [01:27:46] But don't you know, kill the boy, kill the farmer is just a meaningless slogan like, where's the beef or death to America? [01:27:53] Yes. [01:27:53] And do you want to read a few of yours? [01:27:55] Andy Kevin Fox All these expose reports are great for finding all the fakers. === Pro Gamer Election Move (00:32) === [01:27:59] The drawback is they also make it harder for genuine gay asylum seekers to be taken seriously by the Home Office, which is a point we made satirically. [01:28:05] So I can't tell. [01:28:07] Yeah. [01:28:07] Annie Moss I don't understand why immigrants can't go back because they're gay. [01:28:11] After all, the Muslim religion is a religion of peace and they never cause problems for gay people in the UK. [01:28:15] That's true. [01:28:17] Right, so check out Lad's Hour at 3 p.m. [01:28:24] And on that note, have a lovely weekend. [01:28:28] Thanks, Nick. [01:28:29] Thanks, Bo. [01:28:30] See you in 30 minutes.