The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1395
Aired: 2026-04-13
Duration: 01:30:37


=== Live Show Exhaustion (14:49) ===

[00:00:01]  Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:00:02]  Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Season 4, Monday, the 13th of April, 2026.
[00:00:06]  I'm joined by Ferris and Harry, and we're all exhausted because of the amazing live show we did this weekend.
[00:00:12]  But if we've got bags under our eyes, bright red, piss holes in the snow, well, you know, it's your fault.
[00:00:19]  I blame you.
[00:00:19]  But anyway, today we're going to be talking about, well, we're going to talk about the live show, actually, because it's revealed a few interesting things that I think are actually really worth talking about, because people tend to view things on the face of it.
[00:00:33]  And actually, there's a lot more going on behind.
[00:00:35]  And then we're going to be talking about how Farage has decided to recruit the Boris wave and promise them to deport them.
[00:00:41]  So he's going to have to be deporting loads of his own counselors, which obviously isn't going to happen.
[00:00:46]  And then we're going to be talking about how MAGA is degenerating into a podcast administration.
[00:00:51]  It's a pipeline to a podcasting career at this point, to be honest.
[00:00:55]  That's what it appears to be.
[00:00:56]  I can't wait for when Trump's out of office and starts his podcast now.
[00:01:00]  Oh, the tales that we're going to hear.
[00:01:03]  Doesn't Trump Jr. have a podcast?
[00:01:05]  I believe so, yes.
[00:01:06]  Yes.
[00:01:07]  Anyway, glad that's working out.
[00:01:11]  And after the show at 3 p.m. on Lizzie's.com, of course, there is Ferras' Realpolitik.
[00:01:17]  Is this a live show?
[00:01:18]  This is a live show.
[00:01:19]  Yes.
[00:01:20]  Talking about if this is 1,000D chess or maybe not.
[00:01:24]  Yeah.
[00:01:25]  Really underestimating him.
[00:01:27]  Only 1,000D chess.
[00:01:28]  Yes.
[00:01:29]  2,000D chess, at least.
[00:01:30]  Yeah.
[00:01:31]  Anyway, right.
[00:01:31]  Without further ado, then let's begin.
[00:01:34]  So, as you were probably aware, if you watch our podcast, we had our live event in Swindon on Saturday.
[00:01:40]  And it was very fun.
[00:01:41]  And we got a lot of media coverage, actually.
[00:01:45]  As you can see here, anti racism protest planned in Swindon Town Centre from the local paper, the Swindon Advertiser.
[00:01:52]  Now, that is not a picture of the protest.
[00:01:54]  That's a picture of the protest that was against Nigel Farage the week before.
[00:01:58]  But they tell us in here.
[00:01:59]  And it's retrans flagged.
[00:02:01]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:02]  Obviously, you know, the exact kind of people you'd expect to turn up.
[00:02:06]  Yes, exactly.
[00:02:07]  But an anti racism protest was set to take place as if this is an advert for it.
[00:02:12]  I mean, look at this.
[00:02:13]  An anti racism protest set to take place.
[00:02:15]  It's like, what are you promoting it?
[00:02:17]  Is this something that you're for?
[00:02:20]  The group Swindon Stand Up to Racism, no one's heard of those, has planned a protest opposite the Mecca on Saturday.
[00:02:26]  It's like, right, okay, I would have to pay to take out an advert like this in any other paper if I was like, yeah, no, guys, do you know I'm doing something?
[00:02:34]  Do you want an advertising space?
[00:02:35]  I mean, what are we doing here, right?
[00:02:37]  Join us and say, Lotus Eaters out of Swindon.
[00:02:40]  Broadcasting from Swindon today, by the way.
[00:02:43]  Let's show these misogynistic, racist, homophobic twerps that they aren't welcome in our town.
[00:02:48]  Twerps.
[00:02:49]  Strong words.
[00:02:50]  And whilst we're at it, let's tell Mecca Swindon that we don't want these far right events here.
[00:02:56]  By the way, the crew at Mecca were incredible.
[00:02:58]  Absolutely incredible.
[00:02:59]  Really good.
[00:03:00]  The most professional crew we could have asked for.
[00:03:03]  The security, top notch.
[00:03:05]  And thank you for the police for being involved and making sure that there was no trouble or anything like that.
[00:03:09]  Everyone did brilliantly.
[00:03:10]  Everything went smoothly as anything.
[00:03:12]  And we couldn't have been happier, honestly.
[00:03:14]  Really, really appreciate it.
[00:03:15]  Anyway, their venue keeps spreading hate.
[00:03:20]  The venue itself.
[00:03:21]  The venue itself spreads hate.
[00:03:23]  Okay.
[00:03:24]  Is it asbestos or is it like what is it exactly?
[00:03:27]  Katie Hopkins is the.
[00:03:29]  Ah.
[00:03:29]  And Carl Benjamin.
[00:03:31]  They added, let's get out and show these nasty twerps.
[00:03:33]  We won't accept their misogyny.
[00:03:35]  Our community will not be divided.
[00:03:37]  Swindon is anti fascist.
[00:03:39]  Oh, okay.
[00:03:40]  Wow.
[00:03:41]  So that's.
[00:03:41]  But what's really interesting about it again, like, okay, that's just the promo.
[00:03:47]  This is just pure promo.
[00:03:49]  Yes.
[00:03:49]  For the protest.
[00:03:51]  And it's just pure communist as well.
[00:03:53]  I mean, stand up to racism, for anyone who doesn't know.
[00:03:56]  I mean, I'll skip to that now, actually.
[00:03:58]  Where are we?
[00:04:01]  I've got it here somewhere.
[00:04:03]  There we go.
[00:04:04]  Stand Up to Racism.
[00:04:05]  This is from revolutionarycommunist.org.
[00:04:09]  You know how to choose your sources.
[00:04:10]  Well, I chose this one because it's funnier.
[00:04:13]  They're not considered a counter revolutionary force, are they?
[00:04:16]  No, they're liberal, ineffective, and reactionary.
[00:04:19]  So actually, they are.
[00:04:20]  They're counter revolutionary.
[00:04:22]  But they accurately point out that Stand Up to Racism is a front group for the Socialist Workers' Party because the Socialist Workers' Party only had like a couple of thousand people in it, wasn't gaining any traction.
[00:04:31]  So they're like, right, okay, what we can do is hide ourselves behind the front, stand up to racism.
[00:04:35]  And so.
[00:04:36]  This becomes just a front for communism, which is why, of course, all of the protests look exactly as the protests look.
[00:04:41]  And the actual communists are like, well, this is gay.
[00:04:44]  Like, what a weak, limpy, you know, pathetic effort this is.
[00:04:49]  And so, you know.
[00:04:50]  I have to read this.
[00:04:51]  Stand up to racism strips anti racism of its class content by separating it from the fight against imperialism.
[00:04:59]  I agree.
[00:04:59]  I agree.
[00:05:00]  How dare they not.
[00:05:01]  No, no.
[00:05:02]  Middle class character.
[00:05:03]  This is actually a pretty burning pro-match against them, right?
[00:05:07]  It's actually great.
[00:05:08]  Its middle class character is reflected in its favorite slogan, Refugees are welcome here.
[00:05:12]  This sentiment flies in the face of reality.
[00:05:15]  Refugees and asylum seekers are actively under attack from the state.
[00:05:18]  They're not welcome in any sense.
[00:05:20]  And it's not just the state.
[00:05:21]  But anyway, the point being, and as they accurately point out, this is just a front group for the Socialist Workers' Party, which is a wimpy, libtard organization.
[00:05:29]  Oh, hold on.
[00:05:30]  Bourgeois, you could say.
[00:05:31]  It is, yeah.
[00:05:32]  Apparently, one of the attacks is that Stand Up to Racism doesn't recognize Zionism as a form of racism.
[00:05:37]  Oh, yeah.
[00:05:38]  Oh, yeah, that's right.
[00:05:39]  Which, okay.
[00:05:42]  That's a great point.
[00:05:43]  That is a great point.
[00:05:44]  They're pro Zionist as well.
[00:05:46]  Anyway, so for some reason, the Socialist Workers' Party gets a full page advert in the Swindon Advertiser.
[00:05:52]  Now, were we contacted for comment?
[00:05:55]  No.
[00:05:56]  For some reason, they weren't like, oh, right, there's an event here, there's an issue here, there's a conflict between two sides.
[00:06:01]  There's a second side.
[00:06:02]  Between two sides?
[00:06:03]  Yes.
[00:06:03]  Well, as the journalists in the local area, should we not be addressing both sides?
[00:06:08]  The Swindon Advertiser, with their enormous audience, was clearly trying to suck up all the oxygen from us.
[00:06:13]  We are the underdogs here.
[00:06:15]  We absolutely are the underdogs here.
[00:06:17]  That's completely true.
[00:06:18]  So, anyway, we've got a second one.
[00:06:20]  Lotus Eaters found a Carl Benjamin Sparks protest.
[00:06:23]  Again, not a picture of the protest because it's happened in advance of it.
[00:06:26]  But anyway, as you can see here, it's pretty much the same thing, but now it's calling me far right.
[00:06:32]  No, no, not even far right.
[00:06:34]  It calls the Lotus Eaters hard right.
[00:06:38]  We publish from a hard right perspective.
[00:06:40]  I'm not really sure what the difference between far right and hard right is.
[00:06:43]  They discovered that far right was sounding increasingly ridiculous.
[00:06:47]  Or increasing, maybe.
[00:06:49]  Or normal.
[00:06:50]  And so they had to come up with another term.
[00:06:54]  I wonder what happens after hard right fails to gain any traction.
[00:06:57]  I'll go back to extreme right.
[00:07:00]  But what happens when that becomes normalized?
[00:07:02]  It'll just be right.
[00:07:04]  And they'll admit that they were wrong.
[00:07:06]  Yeah.
[00:07:07]  Anyway, so the point being, it's basically the same thing, but this time properly saying stand up to racism campaigners, get to Mecca at Regent Circus at 5 30 today.
[00:07:17]  As if this is literally an instruction from the newspaper.
[00:07:20]  Right.
[00:07:21]  Remember why this guy's bad?
[00:07:22]  Oh, he was game again with UKIP.
[00:07:24]  Oh, he's a hard right.
[00:07:26]  Oh, thank God.
[00:07:27]  Anti extremism group Hope Not Hate, credible source, describes us as populist radical right.
[00:07:33]  Sorry, I think the correct term is Swindon Grievance Factory, actually.
[00:07:41]  Important distinction.
[00:07:42]  Yeah.
[00:07:43]  But again, okay.
[00:07:44]  Right.
[00:07:45]  Yeah.
[00:07:45]  And we've been closely linked to restore Britain, which is correct.
[00:07:49]  We are, of course, helping restore Britain immensely as much as we can.
[00:07:52]  Benjamin rejects characterizations of the outlet as hateful.
[00:07:57]  Did you?
[00:07:58]  Well, they didn't contact me.
[00:08:00]  I mean, I would have done if you'd actually contacted me, but I didn't get any kind of contact from Swindon Advertiser.
[00:08:08]  Why not?
[00:08:09]  Our email addresses are public.
[00:08:11]  You could have contacted us for comment, and I could have given you a comment, and I would happily have done so.
[00:08:16]  I would have pointed out that Harry was wrong, and he was bound to lose the debate on whether Star Wars was.
[00:08:21]  Well, that's one of the funny things when you mentioned the debate in which I absolutely thrashed.
[00:08:27]  Credit to Luca there as well, and thank you both for.
[00:08:31]  Not really presenting an argument.
[00:08:32]  Good sports about losing, eh?
[00:08:34]  Well, you know, I mean, you're setting the example here.
[00:08:37]  Cool.
[00:08:37]  Hey.
[00:08:39]  One of the funny things was there were basically like, there's like a handful of protesters out there, and Josh told me that before he came along, he'd actually looked at the Swindon subreddit.
[00:08:48]  Oh, yeah.
[00:08:49]  Where it was the top thing people saying, come to this protest against the Lotus Eaters at Mecca.
[00:08:54]  And even on Reddit, of all platforms, all of the replies were like, guys, there's like, it's a.
[00:09:00]  You're retarded.
[00:09:01]  The biggest part of the show is a debate about Star Wars.
[00:09:05]  I'm not going to go and protest that.
[00:09:07]  I don't care enough.
[00:09:09]  The best thing is that the debate about Star Wars turned into a good description of generational grievances.
[00:09:16]  Yeah.
[00:09:18]  I'm not going to say who won.
[00:09:21]  You lost, Carl.
[00:09:22]  But I did.
[00:09:24]  And Firas doesn't like any of them.
[00:09:26]  I don't like any of them.
[00:09:27]  By the way, we've recorded it all.
[00:09:28]  It will be on the website in the near future once it's been edited.
[00:09:31]  So you can judge for yourselves how much I dominated everyone.
[00:09:35]  Well, I will just say that as much as I already had the crowd on my side and there were a number of lovely people, everybody who came up to say hello and take a photo was fantastic.
[00:09:44]  I've got particular praise and respect for all of those many people who legitimately came up to me and Luca afterwards and said that we had convinced them on the Quality of the films and opened their perspectives.
[00:09:57]  To be honest, though, I wasn't really that much against in my stance on it, actually.
[00:10:03]  I wasn't like a Beau's position because I actually thought that was a good thing.
[00:10:05]  You kind of backstabbed Beau, if we're honest.
[00:10:07]  I wasn't backstabbing.
[00:10:08]  I was more transcending the petty division to incorporate into a holistic thesis.
[00:10:14]  Yeah, you heel turned on Beau and started making our arguments for us.
[00:10:18]  I watched the films and actually I started to see where you were coming from.
[00:10:21]  This is not about the Star Wars re-equals.
[00:10:23]  It's not what this segment is about.
[00:10:25]  Yeah, right.
[00:10:26]  Getting back to it.
[00:10:27]  Right?
[00:10:27]  Look at this.
[00:10:28]  In a new statement issued this morning, a spokesperson for Swindon stand up to racism.
[00:10:32]  These guys have got eight followers on Twitter, right?
[00:10:34]  But we don't get a statement to issue to a Swindon advertiser?
[00:10:39]  Sorry, how is it that you can write multiple articles about us and not ask us once for comment?
[00:10:45]  Like, look at all of these allegations racist, misogynistic, homophobic, Islamophobic.
[00:10:50]  There's a real impact on the community.
[00:10:51]  Bro, we are the community.
[00:10:53]  We all live in Swindon and we pay bloody taxes here.
[00:10:56]  Apart from those people who.
[00:10:57]  To come in for outside because they don't want to live in Swindon.
[00:10:59]  We get recognised by people who live in Swindon.
[00:11:02]  All the time.
[00:11:03]  Constantly, and it's always really positive because they live in Swindon.
[00:11:07]  Obviously, they're going to be on our side.
[00:11:08]  Yeah.
[00:11:08]  I mean, what proof is there that any of these Swindon stand up to racism people actually live in Swindon?
[00:11:13]  Like, where are these people from?
[00:11:15]  And again, our community will not be divided, right?
[00:11:17]  Also, interestingly, just as a little tidbit, yesterday when I was leaving Swindon, I stopped at a corner shop and took a look at the Swindon advertiser so that I could see if they'd written any articles that had been published in the print version.
[00:11:28]  I wanted a little souvenir.
[00:11:29]  Couldn't find anything about us.
[00:11:31]  But I did find a little column talking about how a man had recently been deported from Swindon.
[00:11:36]  Oh, that's good.
[00:11:37]  Yeah, so.
[00:11:37]  Yeah, some good news, a silver lining there.
[00:11:39]  But again, like, basically, this is the kind of statement they'd put on their own website, and Swindon Advertiser is just publishing it without comment, without reference to us.
[00:11:48]  But that's the second article.
[00:11:49]  There was a third article about us.
[00:11:53]  Three.
[00:11:53]  Three articles.
[00:11:54]  And now we actually get to see some of the actual protesters, because this was published the day after.
[00:11:59]  Shall we have a look, folks?
[00:12:01]  Lotus Eats is not wanted, not looked at Swindon.
[00:12:04]  Do we have to?
[00:12:05]  I remember.
[00:12:05]  I think that's the biggest I can remember.
[00:12:06]  I remember some of them.
[00:12:07]  I'm not quite too interested to look at pictures of them.
[00:12:09]  No, no, we're looking.
[00:12:11]  Swindon stands.
[00:12:12]  So this is just Communist Front with dorky looking communists.
[00:12:16]  Poison in our midst.
[00:12:19]  I mean, that's a bit weird, isn't it?
[00:12:20]  That's going to be my new band name.
[00:12:22]  That's great.
[00:12:23]  They've even got a logo for us.
[00:12:25]  That's a great point.
[00:12:26]  But I think it describes this guy more than anyone else.
[00:12:30]  I mean, he's clearly poisoned himself, both mentally.
[00:12:34]  Everything they say is a projection, right?
[00:12:36]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:12:38]  And you sort of see the spose with the, what are these, bunny ears and the rainbow flag?
[00:12:45]  There's a lot going on there.
[00:12:47]  There is.
[00:12:48]  And I don't want to be mean because all I saw from the protesters is really kind of a, we're people with personal problems, right?
[00:12:57]  And we, you know, I actually feel pretty bad for sort of people with personal problems who try to expunge them through political activism, especially when it's against a debate on Star Wars.
[00:13:10]  It feels a bit misguided, right?
[00:13:12]  Like, not one comment on Palpatine being a Sith Lord here, which I think actually is pertinent to the subject.
[00:13:18]  And to be fair, my segment for the live podcast was advocacy for unemployment, which you'd think would be sympathising.
[00:13:26]  Right up their road, yeah, yeah, right up their street.
[00:13:29]  Anyway, they have a picture of the entire protest.
[00:13:32]  This is it.
[00:13:34]  As one comment on Reddit I saw noted, there were probably more speakers on stage than protesters.
[00:13:39]  Not quite true, but nearly.
[00:13:42]  Anyway, so they are the protesters.
[00:13:44]  Like I said, we got a third article.
[00:13:47]  Again, just praising crowds, crowds joined forces for an anti racism protest in the town centre last night.
[00:13:54]  The campaigners were there.
[00:13:55]  Protesters stood outside the central library with banners and signs saying, Not welcome, not welcome.
[00:14:01]  Load seaters, not welcome in Swindon.
[00:14:02]  And at the bottom, Rhys Williams, the chair of Stand Up to Racism Swindon, told the adver, We want to show that Swindon is an anti racist town.
[00:14:10]  I truly believe there is an anti racist majority in society.
[00:14:14]  It's like, Have you looked at the polling recently?
[00:14:19]  I mean, turnout suggests otherwise.
[00:14:21]  Absolutely, but also, like, every other piece of evidence that exists suggests otherwise.
[00:14:26]  But again, so the communists get all of their stuff just printed front and center.
[00:14:31]  The advert doesn't even contact us, right?
[00:14:33]  They call us racist, they call us far right, they call us Islamophobic, hard right, or whatever it is.
[00:14:37]  And they publish all of these communist statements, right?
[00:14:40]  How is that in any way substantively different to Searchlight, who also published an article on it?
[00:14:45]  Right?
[00:14:46]  Oh, calling us racist, far right, and a couple of the protesters.

=== Racism Accusations Explained (06:56) ===

[00:14:50]  But it's all the same thing.
[00:14:52]  Around 30 protesters.
[00:14:53]  No, they were not around 30 protesters.
[00:14:55]  Mobilized by Standard for Racism.
[00:14:58]  12, 15, if that.
[00:14:59]  Yeah, something like that.
[00:15:01]  But you can see this whole thing is just like, oh, look, here are the bad people.
[00:15:05]  This is the bad people.
[00:15:07]  Hard right positions.
[00:15:09]  It's all the same rhetoric and language.
[00:15:12]  So, sorry, how exactly is it different, the Swindon Advertiser, different to the radical left wing publications like Searchlight Magazine?
[00:15:20]  It's all exactly the same.
[00:15:23]  And this is quite fun as well.
[00:15:25]  The organizers claim the event attracted 1,000 attendees.
[00:15:27]  Well, we're the organizers and we didn't claim that because we knew what the capacity of the venue was, which was 700 people.
[00:15:36]  So, we wouldn't have claimed 1,000.
[00:15:38]  We have to sell the tickets.
[00:15:40]  We can't sell 300 extra tickets to people, then tell them to fight over the chairs.
[00:15:44]  Exactly.
[00:15:44]  And the actual crown was around 400.
[00:15:46]  No, we know precisely how many the actual crowd was because we sold the tickets.
[00:15:50]  Sorry, why have they just made up a claim that we never said?
[00:15:54]  I don't know, but who knows?
[00:15:57]  And the hall was clearly half empty.
[00:15:58]  Well, we'll get some pictures of the hall and you can make that judgment for yourself.
[00:16:02]  But what the count's protest lacked in scale, it made up for an impact.
[00:16:06]  Really?
[00:16:06]  That's some cope right there.
[00:16:09]  That is some major cope.
[00:16:10]  Isn't it just?
[00:16:13]  It's amazing.
[00:16:14]  Spirited counter demonstration to Lotus Eaters.
[00:16:17]  They looked dead to me, guys.
[00:16:20]  There was no life behind their eyes.
[00:16:24]  The only thing that I really got from them was the one who also attended the Restore Britain one you said about shouted fascist at me as I walked past.
[00:16:33]  Well, that's new.
[00:16:35]  Oh, well.
[00:16:35]  He's never shouted that anymore.
[00:16:37]  Anyway, public disgust, members of the public stopped to ask what was happening and expressed disgust that the event was being hosted.
[00:16:45]  In short, it was a reminder of something that Lotus Seater subscriber metrics tend to obscure.
[00:16:49]  Online reach is not the same as public acceptance, and Swindon is not their town, they said, crying at their keyboards because everything went great for us, right?
[00:16:58]  So, going back to the Swindon Advertiser very quickly, it's very easy to think, oh, Swindon Advertiser is a local paper, right?
[00:17:05]  No.
[00:17:06]  Actually, it's not really a local paper.
[00:17:08]  It used to be a local paper, but the Swindon Advertiser was actually bought out by NewsQuest, which is itself actually quite a large company anyway, with a net income of £114 million.
[00:17:19]  But that itself is owned by something that was called Gannett Media, which is now USA Today Corporation, which for some reason doesn't show us a thing, but it's something like £3 billion in revenue USA Today makes.
[00:17:32]  So the Swindon Advertiser is not just some little local.
[00:17:36]  You know, podunk, you know, well meaning local paper.
[00:17:41]  No, no, no.
[00:17:42]  It's a part of the corporatocracy that has hollowed out all of our institutions and is now wearing them like a skin suit.
[00:17:49]  Like, for example, here's the old Swindon Advertiser building.
[00:17:52]  And as you can see from it, it's, I mean, look at it, it's just completely fallen apart because they're not there anymore, right?
[00:17:58]  It used to be the Swindon Advertisers building when it was founded in like the 19th century and it was quite anti government actually back in the day.
[00:18:06]  It was actually a lot more.
[00:18:08]  Along our lines of thinking, and now it's all just hollowed out and worn as a skin suit by some international mega corporation.
[00:18:16]  It's okay, brilliant.
[00:18:17]  Those guys are supporting the radical communists and sound like Searchlight magazine.
[00:18:22]  It's like, okay, great, that's brilliant.
[00:18:25]  I mean, we can see how much it represents the people of Swindon by just looking at the most liked replies on the articles.
[00:18:31]  It's like hating division seems to come from the left these days.
[00:18:34]  The word.
[00:18:36]  It seems to me that since diversity has been thrust down all our throats, we've never been more divided as a country.
[00:18:41]  The irony I thought it was going to be white people rightfully protesting peacefully.
[00:18:45]  I don't know what racism these cretins are referring to, but it's 2026, and it's never been more financially beneficial to benefit with benefits on benefits simply afforded to you by being any colour other than white.
[00:18:56]  And this was commented by Mohammed Patel, apparently.
[00:19:00]  I mean, he's not wrong, though, right?
[00:19:04]  Where are the comments in their favour?
[00:19:06]  If we just go to the most like ones on the next article Mecca is simply a venue.
[00:19:10]  What are you doing?
[00:19:11]  Carl Benjamin states facts, and in a day where people who push socialist agendas and are paid to demonstrate and push the silly narratives backed by a regime called the Labour Party and other like minded NGOs, what can we expect?
[00:19:21]  Yes, well, the Swindon Advertiser is just a part of that.
[00:19:24]  And again, just like all over the place on all of these articles.
[00:19:30]  This is just trivial, totally trivial.
[00:19:33]  The word crowds has got some power lifting to do here, hasn't it?
[00:19:36]  I've seen a bigger crowd at the local shop.
[00:19:38]  Crowds, I've seen more people waiting for the bus.
[00:19:41]  Good grief, another report on this.
[00:19:46]  The only thing wrong with being talked about is not being talked about.
[00:19:49]  It's like, yes, exactly.
[00:19:50]  And so all I'm saying is the people of Swindon.
[00:19:53]  Oh, we've even got a new subscriber, I would assume, through this.
[00:19:56]  I hadn't even heard of Carl Benjamin before these articles about the protest.
[00:20:00]  Well, if you're watching now, hello.
[00:20:03]  Thank you.
[00:20:04]  And this is on Wilshire999's Facebook page where we're called controversial and whatnot.
[00:20:11]  And the protesters were nearly outnumbered by police officers.
[00:20:16]  It's true.
[00:20:17]  Yeah.
[00:20:17]  Refugees welcome.
[00:20:18]  I hope someone was asking each processor to have space and put one in the home.
[00:20:21]  I'd never even heard of them.
[00:20:23]  No picture of the protesters because I knew about four of them.
[00:20:26]  So, yeah, as you can see, not exactly terribly convincing.
[00:20:33]  Anyway, so yeah, this was planned out by Swindon's Stand Up to Racism.
[00:20:37]  They had a very small outing.
[00:20:41]  And our guys decided to just have a bit of fun watching them.
[00:20:46]  Being like, hmm.
[00:20:49]  Seems a little bit sad, to be honest.
[00:20:51]  I mean, and they seem like absolutely lovely people as well.
[00:20:53]  Here's one of them.
[00:20:55]  Oh, yeah, this was the guy.
[00:20:56]  You waited till the old mill left.
[00:21:01]  Fuck off.
[00:21:07]  Stay away from me.
[00:21:08]  Fuck off.
[00:21:08]  Stop.
[00:21:09]  See what I mean about it?
[00:21:10]  I feel that these are just people with personal problems.
[00:21:12]  Yeah.
[00:21:13]  Right?
[00:21:13]  And I genuinely feel bad for them.
[00:21:16]  I genuinely feel like these are the sorts of people.
[00:21:19]  Who actually needs a bit of professional help because you're externalizing all of your personal problems onto what you think is a giant political battle that's going on, but actually, you're just a person with problems.
[00:21:32]  I think that's what's actually happening here.
[00:21:34]  Honestly, I feel quite bad for him.
[00:21:35]  I genuinely do.
[00:21:37]  Here's Anglo just having a protest against us.
[00:21:40]  Come on, guys.
[00:21:41]  Hi, guys.
[00:21:42]  Hi, guys.

=== Overwhelming Crowd Positivity (03:45) ===

[00:21:47]  I am extremely proud of standing up for my country and the ethnic replacement of my people.
[00:21:52]  Well, you have to because you were thrown out of Thailand.
[00:21:58]  He's a patriot, Carl.
[00:22:01]  Carl Benjamin's a patriot.
[00:22:03]  He's a misogynist.
[00:22:04]  No, he's a.
[00:22:07]  I was so serious.
[00:22:09]  Are those things mutually exclusive?
[00:22:14]  Can we notice the obligatory Palestinian cafe?
[00:22:16]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:19]  I mean, yeah, but supposedly, according to the revolutionaries, they're not sufficiently pro Palestine.
[00:22:27]  Well, I mean, according to, well, I mean, he probably hasn't even condemned Zionism.
[00:22:31]  But anyway, we, yeah, like I said, all of our, all of our favorite online posters turned up.
[00:22:36]  There was a huge, huge number of our good friends who turned up and they, I think, accurately called it, we did well, they didn't.
[00:22:45]  And yeah, how do we lose these people so long?
[00:22:47]  Well, institutional backing is the answer.
[00:22:51]  Here's a bit of a video of the crowd lining up to go into the event compared to the handful of protesters on the other side.
[00:23:00]  So, just saying, Swindon Adva, if it was this easy for me to find all of this, what's your excuse?
[00:23:08]  And we just had a great time.
[00:23:10]  It seems everyone had a lot of fun.
[00:23:14]  The positivity was overwhelming.
[00:23:15]  It was amazing.
[00:23:19]  These were people there because of love of country.
[00:23:22]  Clearly, love us, which was genuinely moving.
[00:23:27]  It was just great.
[00:23:28]  Really good people and a lot of fun.
[00:23:30]  I had a great time.
[00:23:31]  And that's the point.
[00:23:32]  All of our people were just very normal.
[00:23:34]  You know, just normal people who were just people who work and get on with their lives and who want the best for their country, for their children.
[00:23:41]  And there weren't any Spurgs in the crowd.
[00:23:43]  No, no, I didn't.
[00:23:45]  Everyone was really nice, well made up, polite, successful, well behaved.
[00:23:50]  It was great.
[00:23:50]  I'm just saying though, it doesn't look half empty to me.
[00:23:54]  Right?
[00:23:54]  Hmm.
[00:23:55]  That looks pretty full to me.
[00:23:57]  I mean, when I got up on the stage and there was just a roar from the crowd, it was just like, okay, that was pretty mad.
[00:24:02]  And this is another photo I took where you can just see it goes like right to the back, you know, and it's like, sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
[00:24:10]  It felt really packed out.
[00:24:11]  We know exactly how many tickets we sold, and it just felt completely packed out.
[00:24:16]  And the reviews are in, as far as I can tell, everyone who went had a great time.
[00:24:21]  So thank you so much, everyone, for making this such a huge success.
[00:24:25]  It was by far the largest live event we've done.
[00:24:27]  And thank you to Mecca as well for just not bowing to this kind of trivial protesting nonsense.
[00:24:34]  They were normal and professional.
[00:24:35]  Completely.
[00:24:36]  Which now has become a very high standard.
[00:24:39]  But they did a great job.
[00:24:41]  Oh, yeah.
[00:24:41]  But it is no longer normal to expect people to be normal, which is, you know, that's the problem.
[00:24:48]  But what was nice about this is this was advertised on their website.
[00:24:50]  So, of course, any of the lefty types could find it.
[00:24:53]  And yet, still, we carried on.
[00:24:57]  And they were like, no, no, this is all fine.
[00:24:58]  Like, They host other people who are way more controversial than us, incidentally.
[00:25:03]  And so I can't help but feel that we're getting past that era of cancellation now.
[00:25:07]  It's like, no, actually, these people are kind of small, annoying, and people with personal problems who are trying to get us cancelled.
[00:25:13]  We are actually completely normal, actually, thoroughly mainstream.
[00:25:17]  I mean, this was a huge venue, and we'd packed it out.
[00:25:21]  So we're very happy with how it went.
[00:25:24]  Hope you guys had a really good time at the show.
[00:25:26]  We will, for any paid subscribers on the website, make sure that the videos will be out of the panels in the next.

=== Isle of Wight Demographics (15:36) ===

[00:25:32]  Well, hopefully, a week or so.
[00:25:34]  So, if you're not a subscriber, come subscribe to our website, loadseas.com, and you'll be able to watch them there.
[00:25:38]  And we'll leave there.
[00:25:42]  Right.
[00:25:43]  What do I read a couple comments?
[00:25:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:44]  Base Ape says, I'm really upset I couldn't make it down this time.
[00:25:46]  If I'd known there would be a protest, I'd immediately joined in, tried to get myself one of those placards as a souvenir.
[00:25:53]  The thing is, they weren't even aggressive.
[00:25:55]  They were just kind of sad.
[00:25:56]  Far right is headstrong and cocksure.
[00:25:58]  Hard right is headstrong and cockstrong.
[00:26:01]  Hmm.
[00:26:02]  Hmm.
[00:26:03]  Okay.
[00:26:04]  I do wonder what was going through the protesters' heads when they saw what a pitiful turnout they had versus the crowds coming into the venue.
[00:26:10]  If they just realized how futile.
[00:26:13]  It was.
[00:26:13]  Yeah, I mean, we had to delay the start by 15 minutes because it was taking longer than expected to get the crowd in.
[00:26:21]  And protesting against the prequels right at the Lotus Eaters.
[00:26:24]  Yes, exactly.
[00:26:26]  Currently waiting to embark on a plane back to Quebecistan.
[00:26:28]  Live event was amazing.
[00:26:30]  We could be the Sith, right?
[00:26:33]  Yes.
[00:26:34]  That's not bad, actually.
[00:26:36]  Thanks for the food and advice for us.
[00:26:38]  Harry, I'll pray for you not to get triplet daughters.
[00:26:40]  God bless you all.
[00:26:41]  Anyway, we'll leave it there and let's carry on.
[00:26:44]  All right.
[00:26:46]  So, Reform has launched a campaign to stop the Boris wave.
[00:26:53]  And the optics here, exactly as Martin Dobney points out, are quite strong.
[00:26:59]  Waves of migrants coming in with Boris Johnson and Kemi welcoming them.
[00:27:05]  And, you know, they made a very strong case that essentially the Boris wave is going to cost every British family £20,000.
[00:27:16]  Notice that that's the concern, though.
[00:27:18]  That's the concern.
[00:27:19]  In fairness, in the event that they did, which I tried to listen to, they did mention the impact on British culture and how this has transformed British society.
[00:27:29]  But the headline issue is the £20,000 per family, which is obviously a disgustingly high bill for anybody to pay.
[00:27:38]  I have to ask a question Is Nigel factoring in members of the Boris wave into what he classifies as a British family as well?
[00:27:47]  Is the problem going to be that the Boris wave is going to cost members of the Boris wave?
[00:27:52]  20,000 pounds.
[00:27:53]  I honestly didn't even look into that.
[00:27:56]  I didn't look into that.
[00:27:57]  I should and I will.
[00:27:59]  To be fair, Farage probably hasn't done the sums on it.
[00:28:02]  We'll see.
[00:28:02]  We'll see.
[00:28:03]  And there were commitments there to end indefinite leave to remain, stop benefits for foreigners, and reverse the Boris wave.
[00:28:12]  How are you going to fill the council seats come the May elections, then, Mr. Farage?
[00:28:15]  That's kind of the, you know, part of the issue.
[00:28:21]  So Zia came up and said that, you know, It has permanently changed the culture of Britain forever, is on course to bankrupt the country, all against the wishes of the British people.
[00:28:31]  Again, sorry, sir, I just hate this kind of externalization of it.
[00:28:35]  It's changed the culture of Britain, as if the culture of Britain exists separately from the people, and it's something precious we have to protect.
[00:28:40]  But the people themselves, not really our problem.
[00:28:43]  It's the impact it's had on us, the people, that is the problem.
[00:28:47]  The culture of Britain changes all the time from century to century.
[00:28:50]  It's not a problem when the culture changes.
[00:28:52]  What is a problem is if the people change and we lose our country.
[00:28:59]  This kind of language is a slippery sleight of hand to avoid demographic issues.
[00:29:05]  Yes.
[00:29:05]  And the fundamental issue is the demography of it.
[00:29:09]  And this is what they are dancing around because reform, a weak source, and everyone knows it.
[00:29:14]  Well, I think this is very much going to be the theme of it.
[00:29:19]  Here's reform having Nigel Farage speak about this.
[00:29:23]  Let's listen to it for a second, please.
[00:29:26]  There is still something we can do about this Boris wave.
[00:29:30]  But if over a couple of million people get indefinite leave to remain over the course of the next 18 months, we will be putting around our necks an economic millstone that frankly will be catastrophic.
[00:29:43]  Just an economic problem.
[00:29:46]  Just because foreigners are going to inherit your country, think of the economy.
[00:29:50]  What about the GDP?
[00:29:51]  So I hate this framework.
[00:29:53]  Also, similarly, again, Nigel Farage is not really the one to be complaining about this, given that, as I've pointed out, you can go back 10 years and find his statements about Brexit.
[00:30:03]  Saying that it would allow for a greater variety of immigrants to come into the country.
[00:30:07]  And we want those Commonwealth Indians.
[00:30:09]  Exactly, which is the same argument that was being used by Boris and a number of the establishment Brexiteers to promote it in the first place.
[00:30:18]  Frankly, if.
[00:30:19]  Basically, their concern was that the polls weren't cheap enough, it's time to bring in the Pakistanis and the Nigerians and the Indians.
[00:30:25]  That was basically.
[00:30:26]  Not even basically.
[00:30:27]  He literally said, we can reduce the number of e-migrants and lean heavily on the Commonwealth.
[00:30:32]  And that's exactly what Boris did.
[00:30:34]  So, what is Farage's actual complaint about the Boris wave?
[00:30:36]  Because EU migration goes down, non EU migration skyrockets, and that's just what you said, Farage.
[00:30:43]  It's like an incrementalist thing.
[00:30:45]  What he's worried about, what he's concerned about, is that the numbers of the Boris wave went up too fast.
[00:30:51]  That's the only part of it that he's worried about.
[00:30:53]  The character of the migration itself is exactly what he was asking for.
[00:30:59]  And I was going to make another point, but it has slipped my mind.
[00:31:02]  I am very tired.
[00:31:03]  Because Connor's got a great point here.
[00:31:05]  I mean, we've seen, obviously, we've seen reform promoting their, here are our candidates, and it's just all foreigners, and literal Boris waivers.
[00:31:16]  I mean, here's, you know, let's look at this to sort of reinforce your point.
[00:31:22]  Mr. Sharia.
[00:31:23]  Muhammad Sharia.
[00:31:26]  Muhammad Sharia, the guy.
[00:31:27]  From the Isle of Wight.
[00:31:30]  I looked at the demographics in the Isle of Wight.
[00:31:32]  In the 2021 census, it's 97% white English, but also 0.1% Pakistani.
[00:31:39]  He must be the only Pakistani man on the Isle of Wight.
[00:31:41]  And he's literally called Mr. Sharia.
[00:31:44]  Mohammed.
[00:31:44]  Thank you.
[00:31:45]  Mr. Sharia is my dad.
[00:31:49]  But Nigel Farage must have hunted him down.
[00:31:51]  Look, I've got the census.
[00:31:53]  I know there's a Pakistani man on the Isle of Wight somewhere.
[00:31:55]  Find him.
[00:31:56]  And for the isle that's literally called White.
[00:32:00]  But it's just incredible.
[00:32:01]  I mean, like, no, no, let's just look at this because it's incredible.
[00:32:05]  We'll see no candidate announcement.
[00:32:11]  Yeah, seeing Sadiq.
[00:32:12]  How represented do you feel, Sadiq?
[00:32:14]  We'll find one in a minute.
[00:32:18]  Maybe another minute.
[00:32:22]  Oh, there's Nigel.
[00:32:27]  Fuck's sake.
[00:32:33]  Oh, look, Darius Hutchinson.
[00:32:36]  Fuck me, what do you know?
[00:32:38]  Jeff Halifax.
[00:32:39]  Jeff Halifax.
[00:32:41]  Joseph Pierce.
[00:32:46]  Yeah, well, that seems to be about it.
[00:32:50]  Well, the interesting thing, again, given that it's on the Isle of Wight and you just mentioned the demographics, it gives away the lie that you are only choosing these particular candidates to appeal to the demographics that are already there, right?
[00:33:04]  This is just intentional.
[00:33:06]  And also, it's also going to be an act of desperation because I was watching Farage campaigning and he would.
[00:33:13]  He would constantly say, We've got a stall at the back.
[00:33:15]  If you'd like to volunteer to be a candidate for us, go and sign up.
[00:33:18]  And you can feel the desperation.
[00:33:19]  And then the media has been like, You've been cold calling people to be candidates.
[00:33:23]  And some of them are like Labour councillors and things.
[00:33:26]  Is everything going okay?
[00:33:26]  And Frost was like, No, no, no, everything's fine.
[00:33:28]  But you can feel this kind of sense of desperation.
[00:33:30]  It's like, OK, we'll just break out whoever wants to apply, even if they are literally foreign nationals.
[00:33:36]  Like they had a Nigerian guy who's a foreign national, they had the guy in the Northeast who'd set up that Indian only football club.
[00:33:44]  Yep, Adrian Rory, or something like that.
[00:33:46]  Literally an Indian national.
[00:33:48]  And then, yeah, like I say, you've got the Boris Wave Bangladeshi guy who's here on a student visa.
[00:33:53]  It's like, how is it possible that someone on a limited visa can become your counselor?
[00:33:58]  And this is where it becomes troublesome because when you have Mr. Clive Furness, who's now their candidate for mayor in Newham, saying, anyone who is here legally is a British citizen and should be entitled to the full support of the British state as his defection to reform is declared.
[00:34:16]  Yeah.
[00:34:17]  Yeah.
[00:34:17]  And so when you say that you want to.
[00:34:19]  He was former Labour, wasn't he?
[00:34:20]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:34:21]  And so when you say you want to reverse the Boris wave, ILR isn't enough.
[00:34:26]  By what metric?
[00:34:28]  Because as Nigel acknowledges in the press conference, they're going to become citizens.
[00:34:36]  Yes.
[00:34:37]  And as they become citizens, the question was asked to him by a member of the press, I think from GB News, are you going to denaturalize them?
[00:34:46]  And basically, he waffled away from saying yes.
[00:34:50]  Didn't say that he would do it, wouldn't say no either, just turned around and tried to sort of waste as much time as possible.
[00:34:58]  And then Zia Youssef had to step in and say, We will consider all options without saying that, yes, we will denaturalize anybody.
[00:35:06]  Why would you just say yes?
[00:35:08]  Exactly.
[00:35:09]  And if the Boris wave is illegitimate, firstly, why would you run them as candidates?
[00:35:16]  That's a great question.
[00:35:17]  The question that demands answer.
[00:35:19]  Firstly.
[00:35:21]  Secondly, If their acquisition of a visa was illegitimate, by definition their acquisition of citizenship would also be illegitimate.
[00:35:30]  So why wouldn't you say, yes, we would denaturalize them?
[00:35:37]  I can't explain it.
[00:35:38]  I literally cannot explain it.
[00:35:39]  I can only assume that reform are so hard up for candidates that they're like, well, we need a body and a seat.
[00:35:46]  We need the paper candidates, right?
[00:35:48]  It looks like it.
[00:35:50]  Apparently.
[00:35:51]  They're one of the most popular parties in the country.
[00:35:54]  They were polling incredibly well last year.
[00:35:57]  Why would they not have a glut of patriots coming forward to stand for them?
[00:36:03]  That's a great question.
[00:36:04]  You vet these candidates by MI5.
[00:36:09]  There will be some issues that have been said online, or is something that is a bit untowards as far as MI5 is concerned.
[00:36:17]  And if you're going to vet them by Hope Not Hate, as was done the previous time, it won't work.
[00:36:22]  Here's my new question then.
[00:36:24]  Have the MI5 and Hope Not Hate literally given reform a diversity quota for their candidates?
[00:36:31]  That never even occurred to me that they might have done.
[00:36:36]  But also, we remember that Nigel Farage kicked all of the Patriots out of his party.
[00:36:41]  Yes, like Bo and Dan.
[00:36:42]  Yeah, but not just Bo and Dan, like loads of folks who either got kicked out or left because they realized we are not going to be supported by the leadership.
[00:36:51]  You know, when Hope Not Hate are like, oh, we don't like that guy because he was like, maybe immigration is a bit too high, folks.
[00:36:56]  Nigel Farage got, oh, God, no, no, he's out, he's out, he's out.
[00:36:58]  And Nigel Farage, like, fired some guy at a press conference.
[00:37:01]  Now, I'm sure that what the guy had got fired for was actually legitimate.
[00:37:04]  I can't remember what it was now, but that's not the time or place to do it.
[00:37:07]  You know, say we're conducting an internal review and we'll publish our findings and take action accordingly.
[00:37:12]  Like, you don't just bow to the press.
[00:37:14]  But he was just instantly like, oh yeah, that guy's gone.
[00:37:15]  And it's like.
[00:37:18]  You are just there, you're literally just their puppet, and they make you dance to their tune because you were cowardly and spineless.
[00:37:24]  And this is why I think they have trouble finding candidates.
[00:37:27]  I think a lot of people are looking at this going, they'll just sell me out, they'll just stiff me, and I'll be left twisting in the wind, and I'll just be, you know, there's no point.
[00:37:36]  There's no point.
[00:37:37]  I mean, if you're a decent enough candidate with a clean record, in terms of what Hope Not Hate and MI5 would define as a clean record, you don't have a reason to take the risk.
[00:37:49]  No, at all.
[00:37:50]  Unless you're sure you're going to be actually properly supported.
[00:37:53]  Yes.
[00:37:54]  If the party's not going to back you, why would I bother?
[00:37:56]  Exactly.
[00:37:56]  And so if your views are in any way potentially controversial, you don't have any incentive to run for a party that will throw you under the bus at the first time of trouble.
[00:38:08]  Because when you're thrown under the bus, you're going to lose your job, you're going to lose your income, your mortgage will become unaffordable, there will be all kinds of social consequences.
[00:38:18]  So you're only going to be willing to take the risk for a party that you believe is committed to you.
[00:38:24]  And reform cannot in any way demonstrate that it is committed to anything other than getting Nigel Farage into number 10.
[00:38:32]  That's their only commitment at this stage.
[00:38:35]  And so you can see why there would be a shortage of candidates.
[00:38:40]  And you could see why you end up with Boris Wave candidates while saying you're going to reverse the Boris wave.
[00:38:48]  So you're going to have him what?
[00:38:49]  Serve as a counselor for two years and then deport him?
[00:38:52]  Are you going to do that or not?
[00:38:54]  He's going to deport himself.
[00:38:55]  He's going to be the man who's gladly.
[00:38:57]  Ushering them back onto the boat, and then once they're all on, he'll turn around, say his goodbyes, and step on himself.
[00:39:04]  He'll salute.
[00:39:05]  That's supposed to be me.
[00:39:07]  Hold on a second.
[00:39:08]  That's my job.
[00:39:09]  You stole your job.
[00:39:10]  Foreigners are taking my job as a foreigner.
[00:39:12]  Unacceptable.
[00:39:15]  I mean, it's just.
[00:39:18]  It's deeply unserious.
[00:39:20]  Because when he's challenged on, are you actually going to do something about this that is substantial, the answer is no.
[00:39:28]  And the question was formulated in a pretty clever way.
[00:39:30]  I'm sorry, I. Don't know how to clip things, so I didn't clip it.
[00:39:33]  But it was formulated as once these people become citizens, do you accept that there is nothing you can do about this?
[00:39:40]  And he literally says, Well, anyone who's illegally is a British citizen and is entitled to the full support of the British state.
[00:39:45]  As the mercy is like, What are we doing here?
[00:39:47]  Exactly.
[00:39:48]  But like, what if the guy at the Home Office comes in drunk or he's rubber stamping and his hand slips on the wrong one?
[00:39:55]  This guy's just sort of like, Well, nothing we can do about it now.
[00:39:59]  It's genuinely insane.
[00:40:01]  Yeah.
[00:40:01]  Especially given that I think a few days ago, somebody, a white British person, was denaturalized for living in Russia.
[00:40:09]  That's right.
[00:40:10]  He'd marry.
[00:40:10]  Sorry, I just want to get that picture back.
[00:40:12]  Where was that picture?
[00:40:13]  First one.
[00:40:14]  So, yeah, just like this being the reform banner, and it's so incongruous with what they're actually doing.
[00:40:22]  Yes.
[00:40:23]  It's so incongruous.
[00:40:24]  And Nigel Farage will get called a racist for this banner when he's on like LBC next or something.
[00:40:29]  So, you might as well just take it all the way.
[00:40:31]  Yeah, why are you going half measures?
[00:40:34]  It is, once again, The right sort of skinny dipping into the Rubicon without actually committing.
[00:40:41]  If you're going to do this, you have to commit.
[00:40:43]  If you're not committed, don't do it.
[00:40:47]  That's always the problem.
[00:40:48]  And.
[00:40:49]  Sorry, they've launched a website called stoptheboriswave.com.
[00:40:53]  Yeah.
[00:40:53]  But that means I have to vote for someone other than you.
[00:40:59]  If I want to stop the Boris wave.
[00:41:00]  Maybe Farage is the one playing 1000D chess.
[00:41:04]  I don't know.
[00:41:04]  Apparently, everybody is these days.
[00:41:06]  I don't understand.
[00:41:07]  I don't get it.

=== Stop the Boris Wave (09:20) ===

[00:41:09]  But Reform also launched a policy where they were investigating the Boris wave and how it happened.
[00:41:15]  Is this after they win?
[00:41:17]  Yes.
[00:41:18]  At some point.
[00:41:18]  He's announced prior inquiries before that didn't happen.
[00:41:22]  And the inquiry will look into how the decisions were made and so on and so forth, having Boris testify under oath.
[00:41:31]  Also, presumably, Robert Jendrick and Suela Braverman, which he confirmed.
[00:41:35]  Yeah.
[00:41:36]  And then, when asked about, you know, fourth wave Suela and Jendrick, the view from Farage was well, at least they had resigned or been kicked out.
[00:41:47]  In protest, and that they had tried to change it from within.
[00:41:51]  But they had literally overseen it.
[00:41:53]  They had not only overseen it, Generic in particular.
[00:41:56]  They were writing articles like Robert Generic was about how welcoming Afghan refugees is a national project.
[00:42:03]  Yeah, Bo was talking about this on his morning show this morning, and I'm getting ready, getting Sharon, trimming my beard and stuff.
[00:42:09]  I was just getting angry about it because Bo was just like, I don't believe this.
[00:42:12]  This is not.
[00:42:14]  Yeah, no, Bo's completely correct on this.
[00:42:16]  Yep.
[00:42:17]  Yep, yep, yep.
[00:42:19]  And so you see this weirdness in the whole announcement that suggests that it's really unserious.
[00:42:27]  Yeah.
[00:42:28]  It's just totally and completely unserious.
[00:42:31]  And then you see this article here from Richard Tice about what had happened.
[00:42:38]  And he says.
[00:42:39]  Sorry, sorry.
[00:42:40]  Can I just take this quote out of context?
[00:42:43]  With no vetting procedure in place, we may be letting in sex offenders, potential terrorists, and criminals.
[00:42:48]  But we won't deport them into the Reform Party as candidates?
[00:42:51]  Like, what are we talking about?
[00:42:52]  Like, if your complaint is that Boris Wave would just let in with no vetting, you're like, yes, but they can stand as candidates for reform.
[00:42:59]  What are you doing?
[00:43:00]  As long as Ivan, hope not, I hate you.
[00:43:02]  Say so.
[00:43:03]  I guess, you know, like, mental.
[00:43:05]  Absolutely.
[00:43:06]  Okay, so you're a rapist, murderer.
[00:43:10]  That's a pretty spicy tweet on Israel, though, so I'm going to have to turn you down.
[00:43:14]  Yeah.
[00:43:15]  So let's read what Tice said, because it sort of shows the incongruence of having Braverman and Jenrick there.
[00:43:23]  He says.
[00:43:25]  Keep in mind of the thousands who have already entered the country, referring to the Afghans and the fact that they cost 7 billion pounds, and this wasn't allowed to be discussed.
[00:43:35]  They have completely pulled the wool over our eyes and willfully lied to the British public.
[00:43:39]  That would be Braverman and Jenrick.
[00:43:42]  Now, after nearly two years of secrecy enforced by the Conservatives, this scandal has been exposed.
[00:43:47]  The shocking plan is already in effect with 18,500 Afghans having already arrived with no vetting.
[00:43:55]  Sex offenders, terrorists, and criminals.
[00:43:57]  We as correct though, yes, your party with Robert Jemrick did this.
[00:44:01]  It has been revealed that several Afghans on this list had previously been rejected for violent or sexual assaults.
[00:44:08]  So you won't denaturalize them.
[00:44:10]  And Danny Kruger invited you to denaturalize them.
[00:44:12]  So you won't denaturalize them.
[00:44:13]  So you won't denaturalize them.
[00:44:14]  So your children are just as British as I am.
[00:44:15]  They're going to inherit Alfred the Great, yeah.
[00:44:17]  But just, it was genuinely.
[00:44:18]  This is a massive failure.
[00:44:19]  Exactly.
[00:44:20]  This is a massive failure of the British state.
[00:44:22]  A huge threat to our national security.
[00:44:24]  Just another example of the Tories betraying the trust of the British public.
[00:44:28]  Even from the sidelines, this country is still suffering from years of Tory leadership.
[00:44:32]  It really does beg the question of treason.
[00:44:37]  I'm just staggered because it's like, yeah, Robert.
[00:44:40]  And Robert Jenner is just like, what?
[00:44:42]  I mean, yeah, that was me who literally did all of those things you're condemning, but now I'm your shadow home chancellor, a chancellor of the exchequer.
[00:44:50]  Like, he's literally got a senior role in the party.
[00:44:54]  This is mental.
[00:44:55]  It just feels like vague, abstract gesturing.
[00:44:58]  Like, there's that bit, I think it's in Father Ted, where some guy's protesting something and he doesn't know what, and his sign just says, downward, this sort of thing.
[00:45:06]  That's what it feels like.
[00:45:08]  Yeah.
[00:45:08]  It's just.
[00:45:09]  I don't know.
[00:45:10]  I feel like it'd be like me turning to Nick Dixon and being like, yeah, God, anyone who's ever been on GB News is obviously evil and we need to purge them completely.
[00:45:17]  Don't you agree, Nick?
[00:45:18]  And Nick being like, yeah, of course.
[00:45:21]  And I hate comedians too, Nick.
[00:45:22]  I know, they're the worst.
[00:45:23]  Actually, he probably would agree.
[00:45:24]  Maybe, yeah.
[00:45:25]  But I just can't get over it.
[00:45:28]  As if we're supposed to just forget that Sweller and Jemrick are a part of Boris Wave administration.
[00:45:34]  They're saying that they will be investigated too.
[00:45:37]  They don't.
[00:45:37]  But then Rupert Lowe.
[00:45:39]  You know, as criminals are doing the investigation, comes up with the goods and he mentions things like the BB Stockholm contract one and a half billion for providing accommodation.
[00:45:51]  And that was Braverman as Home Secretary and Generic as the Immigration Minister, exactly.
[00:45:57]  Braverman's title was on the contract, exactly.
[00:46:02]  And what they were being provided with was twice a week cleanings, oh, changing their bedsheets every week.
[00:46:11]  24 7 concierge service, telephones, Wi Fi, training to learn how to use search on their phones and things like that, full access to the towns that they were being in, that they were being housed in.
[00:46:26]  Program of organized recreational activities.
[00:46:29]  I'm going to pay for all that myself.
[00:46:34]  And so you could say that we disagreed with the policy if you're Braverman and Jenrick, but then.
[00:46:41]  You had at least the authority to not make this so bloody generous and attractive to make people who were already in British think about tossing their passports and pretending to be immigrants.
[00:46:54]  Man, I am going to break into this country myself.
[00:46:56]  Full Wi Fi coverage is required with a bank of mobile phones available 24 7.
[00:47:01]  They need to be like just.
[00:47:03]  You can finally get some guidance and support.
[00:47:05]  Transport requests will be taken at short notice.
[00:47:08]  The transport must be punctual.
[00:47:10]  The trains aren't punctual.
[00:47:12]  Yeah.
[00:47:13]  So, my favorite one of my favorite things about this regarding the Suella Breverman's involvement in it was there was a speech that she gave a few years ago after she'd already left the position, yeah, where she tried to call it out and say that the civil service was out of control, they were doing all of this.
[00:47:30]  And her whole point was essentially that whilst she was in the position to do something about it, she couldn't because she was stonewalled at every stage by the civil service and by Rishi Sunak, apparently, and by Rishi Sunak, get yourself fired.
[00:47:42]  And then the point of it seemed to be in the end.
[00:47:46]  Was that next time I'm up for an election, vote for me?
[00:47:50]  I'm useless.
[00:47:53]  But I can't do anything.
[00:47:54]  Rupert here, they were the ministers, they were responsible.
[00:47:57]  That's how it works.
[00:47:59]  This is what ministerial responsibility means, right?
[00:48:01]  Yes, that's literally what the job is meant to be.
[00:48:03]  And so if you approve these kinds of contracts, knowing full well how attractive they would be, that they would be used by the smugglers to attract more clients to bring into Britain.
[00:48:18]  I mean, it's attracting me.
[00:48:19]  How much did it cost to be a smuggler?
[00:48:21]  To pay the smuggler to get me across?
[00:48:23]  A few thousand pounds.
[00:48:24]  I could do that.
[00:48:24]  That's a lot cheaper than all the stuff there I'd have to pay for.
[00:48:29]  So, this is incoherent.
[00:48:32]  Maybe Stockholm's like a bloody cruise for boomers.
[00:48:35]  And with no plan to actually deport or denaturalize.
[00:48:39]  Yeah.
[00:48:40]  You're saying that you're going to be stuck paying for them forever.
[00:48:43]  If they're going to cost you £20,000 per household, but you're not going to denaturalize any of them, you're stuck paying them forever and their children and their children's children.
[00:48:56]  You think this is just another patronage system?
[00:48:58]  It's like, yeah, we're going to pay, like, Sweller and Jemric in a Paid to get you in, paid to keep you up, and then we're going to have you join the Reform Party and make you a councillor so that you can continue paying and the circle completes.
[00:49:11]  Because, I mean, it looks like a foreign patronage network.
[00:49:15]  A little bit.
[00:49:16]  I mean, a little bit.
[00:49:17]  Nadim Zahawi's money connections, there are all kinds of questions to be asked.
[00:49:21]  Is it just a little bit?
[00:49:22]  Are they all related as cousins to Zia Youssef and Nadim Zahawi?
[00:49:27]  Or Swella Braverman?
[00:49:29]  But the point being is, you know, it's like, no, you guys, it's literally like Labour do with the foreign.
[00:49:33]  Right, it's like we bring you in, we give you all these benefits, and then you vote for us.
[00:49:37]  And reform seems to be following that pattern, yeah.
[00:49:40]  And you know, Gorton and Denton just showed how successful it'll be for reform brilliantly, yeah.
[00:49:46]  So, Nigel, get serious, please.
[00:49:50]  This is not serious, but I don't expect you to get serious.
[00:49:53]  There's a great comment here Farage has put the Boris Way butt for election because he knows they won't defect or restore, yeah.
[00:50:00]  All the people also said, Are we taking bets on Farage jumping from reform once he sees how terrible they're going to do in the election due to his own actions now?
[00:50:07]  We don't know how terrible that they're going to do, but if they do terrible, I wouldn't be shocked if he does, just because Nigel kind of has this attitude where he's like, as soon as something, the tide turns, he leaves so he won't be involved with, directly involved with the destruction of it.
[00:50:22]  I've been saying this for a while.
[00:50:23]  I reckon when reform begins polling around 17, 18% again, Farage will just quit.

=== Nigel Farage Diet Talk (15:40) ===

[00:50:29]  I think he'd genuinely quit because, you know, he'll be below the Greens and probably below the Tories and Labour again.
[00:50:35]  And I think he'll just quit.
[00:50:36]  Yeah, maybe.
[00:50:38]  Maybe.
[00:50:41]  Most of you should put out there that they're thinking of taking the live show on tour, then spread the rumor to local rags by a non-sourced see if they can get a reaction.
[00:50:47]  No, We're not here to troll them.
[00:50:51]  We were here to do our event.
[00:50:54]  It wasn't anything about them.
[00:50:55]  In fact, it would have been better if they just hadn't turned up, frankly.
[00:50:58]  Anyway.
[00:51:00]  All right, then.
[00:51:01]  So, turning away from Britain, we'll take a look over the Atlantic to America and discuss something funny that I've noticed.
[00:51:08]  So,.
[00:51:08]  The Trump admin so far could really, I think, quite accurately be described as the podcast presidency in a number of different ways.
[00:51:16]  One being that the actual promotion of the campaign, a lot of the campaign in 2024 and prior was held up by podcasts.
[00:51:25]  You know, Donald Trump did a lot of the podcast rounds.
[00:51:28]  He went on places like Logan Paul.
[00:51:29]  He did the WWE podcasts.
[00:51:31]  He did a lot of Joe Rogan.
[00:51:33]  A lot of the people who were in his administration are kind of Joe Rogan alumni.
[00:51:37]  So they have a deep connection to podcasts, and a number of the admin were running their own podcasts.
[00:51:43]  Podcasts as well, like Dan Bongino.
[00:51:45]  But also, the MAGA admin right now seems to have become its own pipeline to come back to being a podcaster for a lot of these people.
[00:51:55]  I mean, I'm just double checking.
[00:51:57]  And maybe there'll be some new podcast careers.
[00:51:59]  But he is, RFK is currently the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
[00:52:03]  Yes, he's still in his position.
[00:52:05]  Yeah, I just had to double check because this sounds like someone who does not have a job.
[00:52:09]  Yeah, when I saw this at first, it's the Make America Healthy Again action Twitter account.
[00:52:16]  It's got the gold.
[00:52:16]  Tick, so it's official, it's all part of the admin still.
[00:52:19]  But it said that he's announced he'll be launching a new podcast where nothing is off limits, saying that for decades now, Americans have been told that we should just trust the system, but our children are sicker.
[00:52:30]  And it came with this little video.
[00:52:31]  Honestly, until I noticed that it was from the actual account, I thought this was a joke.
[00:52:38]  And I thought that the video that was underneath it was AI generated.
[00:52:43]  Because it's just such a bizarre thing for somebody who's currently sitting in a position of immense responsibility and power to do.
[00:52:51]  And do personally.
[00:52:52]  It would be one thing if the administration, his part of it, had a little off branch podcast where some of his staff members did it and announced just here's the things that we've been doing, here's some of the things that we've done.
[00:53:07]  But for him to do it personally struck me as quite strange.
[00:53:11]  Can I just read this?
[00:53:12]  Because this is really weird, right?
[00:53:14]  For decades now, Americans have been told that we should trust the system, but our children are sicker.
[00:53:18]  Many of us have come to the conclusion that government actually lies to us.
[00:53:21]  The podcast is about telling the truth.
[00:53:23]  We're the government now.
[00:53:24]  Exactly.
[00:53:25]  This podcast is about telling the truth, especially when it's uncomfortable.
[00:53:28]  I'm going to have fearless conversations with critical thinkers.
[00:53:30]  I'm going to ask the questions and lift the taboos and expose the hypocrisy and corruption.
[00:53:34]  We're going to follow the evidence wherever it leads.
[00:53:36]  The time for half a measure is over.
[00:53:37]  Yeah, if only you were in government.
[00:53:39]  If you were going to expose the corruption.
[00:53:43]  Surely the DOJ should be involved.
[00:53:45]  Yeah.
[00:53:47]  Seriously, I don't think that this would be, again, too much of a bad idea if RFK wasn't presenting it himself, because now it just seems like you don't have anything more important to do.
[00:53:57]  Yeah.
[00:53:59]  Because I wouldn't mind if they were going, we've found this corruption here and we've sorted it out.
[00:54:04]  We found out that these lobbyists were paying for these chemicals to go under the radar with the FDA or something.
[00:54:10]  That's not bad in the name of transparency.
[00:54:12]  But again, RFK himself doing it.
[00:54:15]  A bit weird.
[00:54:16]  Why are you hosting a podcast, bro?
[00:54:17]  Like, the system's making our children sick.
[00:54:20]  Yeah, okay.
[00:54:20]  And you were literally elected to fix it.
[00:54:23]  Like, you were about 5% of the vote and you joined Donald Trump.
[00:54:27]  And those people are all expecting you to just get whatever weird chemicals out of the food, do whatever it is.
[00:54:34]  You know, I don't know what his arguments are to it.
[00:54:36]  I basically probably believe them, though.
[00:54:38]  You know, I believe there is some sort of institution.
[00:54:41]  I mean, I'm less skeptical of vaccines as they're administered in the UK.
[00:54:46]  Obviously, during COVID, there were a lot of questions regarding.
[00:54:49]  The food.
[00:54:50]  The COVID.
[00:54:51]  Yeah.
[00:54:52]  But obviously, in America, they have a very different vaccine schedule, which probably raises all sorts of questions.
[00:54:57]  And in America as well, I've heard that the food is just basically pure poison.
[00:55:02]  I recently read through Rennes, Raw Egg Nationalist's latest book, and some of the discussions in there of the kinds of additives and chemicals that are put into American food is absurd.
[00:55:14]  So there's a lot to be dealt with in America as far as making the country healthy, as is on the tin here.
[00:55:22]  If only he were the health secretary.
[00:55:23]  And he could do that.
[00:55:25]  But do you know what it reminded me of?
[00:55:26]  It reminded me of Dan Bongino being a podcast.
[00:55:31]  I'm not the deputy director of the FBI.
[00:55:33]  I can make some real changes.
[00:55:34]  What?
[00:55:35]  Yeah, and then being in the FBI and then going back to being a podcaster, leaving the FBI and being like, now I can make some real change.
[00:55:44]  I mean, I feel bad for the guy, and I'm of the view that these people are being physically threatened.
[00:55:49]  They must be, because no other explanation makes sense.
[00:55:53]  You're literally in charge.
[00:55:54]  And then these extra podcasts and productions that come up afterwards seem to be ways of them trying to subtly gesture at some of the stuff that they've had to put up with, or maybe talk around it.
[00:56:05]  Maybe, but these are the guys literally at the top of these institutions.
[00:56:08]  Just stop firing people and doing the things you want done.
[00:56:12]  The thing is, this kind of thing.
[00:56:14]  Allows a huge amount of money laundering.
[00:56:16]  Yeah.
[00:56:18]  If you have a subscription model and you do have major financial backing, it can be done so that the amount that is to be passed to you is distributed in small increments and presented as subscriptions.
[00:56:35]  And then that is a clean source of money that you pay taxes on, et cetera.
[00:56:40]  Well, it's, you know, a brutal bad money laundering style is doable here.
[00:56:45]  There's all of that, but for other sources and information on why this might be happening, Dr. Robert Malone, which everybody will remember from the COVID years, has come out in interviews and said that he's got information that RFK was essentially ordered to shut down discussions of vaccines as the health secretary and said that the Trump insiders think that RFK's voter base are expendable.
[00:57:09]  In the 2026 midterm, so that they don't need to worry about their concerns.
[00:57:13]  They can have them left to the side, presumably for the sake of vested interest.
[00:57:17]  I can't speak to the truth of this.
[00:57:18]  This is information that's been given from different sources.
[00:57:21]  There's someone else as well.
[00:57:23]  This Emerald Robinson, who says that RFK Jr.'s team as Health Secretary has been removed or sidelined by the White House and claims that it's now being run by Big Pharma lobbyists, which would give some kind of explanation as to why all of a sudden he's got a load of free time to.
[00:57:42]  I'll just talk.
[00:57:43]  Podcast shining light on the darkness of corruption within this industry.
[00:57:47]  So sad, though, man.
[00:57:48]  It is a little sad because, again, no, genuinely right.
[00:57:52]  I was actually quite excited for RFK's thing because, like, you see so many anecdotal events like stories of women who are like, Oh, yeah, I can't eat bread, but I went to France and I could eat bread just fine there.
[00:58:02]  And actually, I didn't get whatever the bowel issue is.
[00:58:05]  I can't remember what you get, but um, yeah, whatever it is, you know, what you know, she's like, I can't eat bread in America, oh, I could eat bread in Europe, I went to Italy and I could eat all of the bread, it was wonderful.
[00:58:14]  It's like Yes, bread in America.
[00:58:16]  Bread in America is genuinely disgusting.
[00:58:17]  Yeah.
[00:58:17]  Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[00:58:19]  I can't imagine how bread could be that disgusting and bad for you, but I've never been to America.
[00:58:25]  It keeps for two or three months.
[00:58:27]  Yeah.
[00:58:28]  That's how much is added to it.
[00:58:29]  It's preservatives.
[00:58:30]  So, I mean, we talk about ultra processed foods over here, but that sounds like on a completely different level.
[00:58:36]  You go to the supermarkets and you pick up a box and you look at the list of ingredients and it's like that.
[00:58:39]  And you're just like, but this is.
[00:58:41]  I do know that a lot of those ingredients will be things like red dye number one.
[00:58:45]  Yeah, a lot of it's preservatives.
[00:58:47]  So these things can stay in storage or whatever, right?
[00:58:50]  But the point is, this is what RFK's entire mandate was.
[00:58:52]  It was like, make America healthy again.
[00:58:54]  Why didn't Trump just go, look, just go and do whatever it has to be done, just crack on and just smash all of these things, put in a series of regulations?
[00:59:02]  The donor class runs everything.
[00:59:03]  I guess they do.
[00:59:04]  Well, and even outside of the donor class as well, there's evidence presented, well, there's reporting presented in this as well, talking about how basically it seems like this is coming off of the back of what they describe as a beg eat.
[00:59:18]  Bevy of recent setbacks, including widespread criticism of vaccine policy changes, a federal ruling last month blocking several of these moves, and resistance from key Republican senators, so within party resistance, that's kept President Donald Trump's Surgeon General pick from taking office.
[00:59:34]  And they suggest that it could be a way of rebranding the strategy so that they're going less from doing things and more talking about things that they could have done.
[00:59:44]  Oh, that is terrible.
[00:59:45]  So it does sound like they are getting massively sidelined.
[00:59:48]  Not to say that everything that they.
[00:59:51]  Did last year when they were a bit more active was sensible or even really within the remit.
[00:59:56]  Like, for instance, quite notoriously, last April and July, there were new guidelines released by the National Institute of Health saying that any medical researchers will have all funds terminated if they supported a boycott of Israel, which was just completely bizarre because why is this under your remit?
[01:00:14]  You're supposed to be making America healthy again.
[01:00:16]  But again, this speaks to the compromise that a lot of people think that you can get that you can give them what they want.
[01:00:24]  And then you get what you want in return.
[01:00:26]  Whereas instead, they get what they want, and then you get sidelined, and now you're a podcast bro again.
[01:00:32]  It's really sad, man.
[01:00:33]  Which does seem to happen quite often.
[01:00:35]  And there was actually action off the back of this where there was initial cancellation of about $400 million in grants and contracts to Columbia University, which obviously conducts a lot of research purely for this kind of what they describe as anti Semitism.
[01:00:52]  So it seemed like a lot of the administration's efforts last year were to tackle this rather than what necessarily a lot of people voted them in for.
[01:01:00]  But that's not to say that there wasn't anything good that came of it.
[01:01:04]  A lot of his initiatives.
[01:01:06]  For one, people in America now are far more, especially on Trump's side, in favor of doing things like offering food.
[01:01:14]  Removing seed oils from school meals.
[01:01:16]  Yep.
[01:01:16]  Removing seed oils, basically making food into real food.
[01:01:20]  Crazy.
[01:01:21]  Because that's what it sounds like in America.
[01:01:22]  Like food just isn't food.
[01:01:24]  Recently, I decided to try and cut out a lot of these ultra processed foods from my diet.
[01:01:30]  And I'm eating a lot more red meat and a lot more whole foods, healthy dairies, unpasteurized milk.
[01:01:36]  And honestly, I feel so much.
[01:01:38]  Better, yeah, man.
[01:01:39]  Just day to day, my energy levels, the quality of rest that I'm getting, uh, the consistency of my energy as well.
[01:01:47]  I'm getting less aches and pains.
[01:01:49]  Some physical stuff that I've been dealing with recently as well has cleared up almost immediately.
[01:01:53]  Really, it's crazy.
[01:01:55]  And that's in England, yeah, yes, that's in England.
[01:01:58]  Whereas America, from what you're describing and from what I've read, seems to be so much worse.
[01:02:03]  It's really terrible.
[01:02:04]  And like everything, it's weird that the same foods in America have a much higher calorific content as well.
[01:02:10]  I went to Disneyland.
[01:02:12]  I was like, okay, I'll get a salad.
[01:02:14]  This salad was like 1,500 calories.
[01:02:17]  I'm like, how the hell do you make a salad 1,500 calories?
[01:02:21]  It's all the dressings and stuff on it.
[01:02:22]  It was a weird sauce and dressings and stuff on it.
[01:02:25]  Yeah.
[01:02:25]  And I mean, the thing is, I'm totally with you, right?
[01:02:28]  So, like, 90% of my diet is basically red meat and fresh veg.
[01:02:31]  So, I'll have like steak and broccoli or cabbage and carrots or whatever it is, right?
[01:02:35]  I don't have the veg or fruit or anything like that.
[01:02:39]  It's just meat and dairy.
[01:02:40]  For me, it's just to make sure I get vitamin C, frankly.
[01:02:44]  But I like, you know, a broccoli, steak, and a bit of gravy or something.
[01:02:49]  Amazing meal.
[01:02:50]  Totally happy with it.
[01:02:50]  And I've never felt better in my entire life.
[01:02:53]  Fill you up.
[01:02:54]  And the weird here's another weird thing.
[01:02:56]  And don't take this as health or diet advice from me because it might just be something weird with me, right?
[01:03:04]  I'd seen people for a long while advise that, like, if you're eating the right food, you can basically eat as much of it as you want and you won't get fat in the same way that you do eating this other stuff.
[01:03:14]  I've had multiple days recently where I've been having like 4,000 calories a day.
[01:03:18]  Jesus.
[01:03:20]  And I have not put any weight on at all.
[01:03:22]  Really?
[01:03:23]  In fact, one day I'd stepped on the scale.
[01:03:25]  I've been consistently looking at the scales.
[01:03:27]  One day I'd lost a bit of weight, which was bizarre.
[01:03:31]  How is that happening?
[01:03:32]  I don't know.
[01:03:34]  Don't take me as the broad stroke for every example there, but that's just my anecdote.
[01:03:39]  Experience with it.
[01:03:40]  But either way, that's just the general effect of raising awareness of this stuff in America.
[01:03:45]  Sorry, just as a pause on that, if we can go back to that, that's what makes this all the more frustrating, where it's like, okay, you've actually got the public behind you.
[01:03:52]  Even look at the level of Harris supporters who are basically on your side on this.
[01:03:56]  And look, banning junk food from being purchased with food stamps.
[01:03:59]  I mean, really, what you're doing is abusing people who have food stamps because they're already presumably going to be lower income, probably lower impulse control.
[01:04:08]  They need their diet to be curated for them so that they're not just.
[01:04:11]  Ruining themselves with free money and free food.
[01:04:14]  Banning artificial dyes from food.
[01:04:16]  Why not?
[01:04:17]  Why not?
[01:04:17]  And the thing is, the only people who would be opposed to this are going to be big money.
[01:04:22]  And the fact that they're getting their way shows you that it's the donor class in control.
[01:04:27]  Yeah.
[01:04:28]  And if you look at the donor class, you see the problem.
[01:04:30]  It's terrible, man.
[01:04:31]  Genuinely sad.
[01:04:32]  But they have also made some genuine changes, which is that they adjusted the food pyramid and the layout of it and the guidelines and the dietary guidelines that America releases every five years or so.
[01:04:44]  Great, I mean, that's great.
[01:04:45]  Which greatly upset people like Lewis Goodhall, who compared it to fascism.
[01:04:50]  And would you like to know the fascist food pyramid that RFK put forward?
[01:04:54]  Well, it's this whole grains and other very carb heavy foods right at the bottom of it, whereas.
[01:05:02]  Healthy fats, dairy, protein, red meat, fruit, and vegetables all put right at the top.
[01:05:08]  That's my meal.
[01:05:10]  That top row is your meal.
[01:05:13]  I'll have eggs, I'll have olive oil, I'll have Greek yogurt, but otherwise it's just that top row, basically.
[01:05:21]  And it is a damn good meal.
[01:05:23]  It's great, I love it.
[01:05:24]  You feel better.
[01:05:25]  Again, a lot of people suffer from low motivation, hormone imbalances, lethargy throughout the day.
[01:05:32]  If you change your diet to just be real food, Rather than poison, because again, after having changed my diet for just a little over a week, I'm now fully convinced that the normal foods that people are sold on the shelves at supermarkets and in plastic packaging, a lot of it is poison.
[01:05:52]  It's not real food and it has so much added to it that will cause so many health problems for you that will just clear up.
[01:05:58]  And one of the other good things about it as well is you tend to find yourself, I mean, with me, going to your local market a lot more, going to your local butchers a lot more.
[01:06:06]  So it really fosters a greater sense of community.

=== Corporate Food Manipulation (06:23) ===

[01:06:09]  Rather than just lining the pockets of massive corporations that are selling this at mass scale.
[01:06:16]  Fundamentally, it's good for you.
[01:06:17]  Yeah, it's just good for you in many different ways.
[01:06:20]  And it's fantastic compared to the alternative, as is explained in this big article here, saying that the alternative, if it had been Kamala Harris, for instance, Would have been terrible.
[01:06:34]  Would have been absolutely terrible for people because the diet guidelines aren't just guidelines.
[01:06:40]  They also dictate what hospitals, nursing homes, inpatient rehab centers, schools, the military, what kind of food that they're all served.
[01:06:50]  Also, again, dictates what kind of food that people who are on benefits like SNAP can buy as well.
[01:06:57]  And it says here the total food procurement governed by or derived from the DGA is in the range of about 200 to 250 billion.
[01:07:05]  Billion dollars annually.
[01:07:06]  So, when you're moving that much money, when it's obviously going to be dictating whose food is getting bought for what and going where, obviously you're going to get huge financial interests and lobbying from major food corporations who are going to say, Well, we've got all of this soy and artificially lab grown corn syrup.
[01:07:25]  Yep, that we need to move.
[01:07:27]  If it's going to be 200 to 250 billion on the table, we can afford to put in a few hundred million to make sure that we get our way by greasing the right palms, right?
[01:07:37]  So, you can just see it says here, I mean, as a procurement document, the DGA moves more food than McDonald's, Cisco, and Walmart's combined.
[01:07:46]  That's how huge this operation is.
[01:07:48]  And what was Kamala Harris going to do?
[01:07:50]  Well, they had a dietary guideline report for December 2024 that they were going to use to dictate it.
[01:07:59]  And it was going to be a central recommendation to deprioritize animal protein in favor of plant based sources.
[01:08:08]  For the first time in the history of the guidelines, the committee proposed reorganising the entire protein food group to list beans, peas, and lentils first, followed then by nuts and soy, and then seafood, and then dead last, meat, poultry, and eggs.
[01:08:23]  They literally want to turn you into something feeble.
[01:08:26]  Yes.
[01:08:27]  Yes.
[01:08:27]  Feeble.
[01:08:28]  Physically feeble and malnourished.
[01:08:30]  The thing is, forgive my libertarian side for a second, the minute you have a government body telling you what you should be eating, As opposed to just listening to your grandmother, you're going to get this corporate manipulation.
[01:08:44]  So, the existence of these bodies is itself the problem because it lends the whole system to manipulation.
[01:08:51]  Whereas, if you just remove the idea of dietary guidelines issued by the government and state intervention in what you're actually eating, the problem solves itself because people will gravitate to what tastes good and feels good.
[01:09:07]  Yeah.
[01:09:08]  And just to count signal the libertarianism a minute, I hate to say it, but one of the good things that the EU actually does.
[01:09:15]  Is restricting corporations from putting all of this crap in your food.
[01:09:19]  That's actually one of the few good things the EU does, which is the food has to be clean and normal, just like minimal ingredients.
[01:09:27]  And it's like, okay, that's actually a good idea.
[01:09:29]  And as we can see from the example of America, the corporations just do not care and will just pump your food full of whatever makes it cheaper for them to sell it.
[01:09:37]  And listen to some of the other recommendations replace butter with seed oils high in polyunsaturated fat, recommended low fat dairy over full fat.
[01:09:47]  Pushed plant based milk alternatives as substitutes for cow's milk.
[01:09:51]  So there's some, there's some I agree with, and laid the groundwork for displacing dairy as a primary food group altogether with water and soy positioned as the default federal recommendations.
[01:10:02]  Right, so you can actually obviously, if you go online and look for articles, most of the articles will try and downplay how bad for you soy is.
[01:10:13]  But you can actually just go to, in England at least, you can speak to a doctor about the effects of soy on men, and they will just tell you outright listen, if you drink a lot of soy, It's full of estrogen, it will give you tits.
[01:10:25]  That's what it will do.
[01:10:27]  And it says the Biden administration introduced a health equity framework as the central lens for the committee's work, with DEI compliance applied to food, subordinating questions about what is nutritionally optimal to questions about who is affected and how recommendations impact various racial and socioeconomic categories.
[01:10:46]  So, therefore, because non white people are lactose intolerant, less dairy.
[01:10:54]  I love dairy.
[01:10:55]  And what the article makes quite a compelling argument for is it was essentially going to stigmatize Indo European derived diets.
[01:11:03]  Yeah.
[01:11:04]  Historically, our ancestors drank a lot of dairy, so much so that we developed lactose tolerance, unlike everybody else.
[01:11:11]  There are a lot of other people actually who do, like some Central Asians and some Africans actually do.
[01:11:16]  I would expect Mongolians.
[01:11:17]  Yeah, yeah, and Mediterranean.
[01:11:18]  Yeah, Mediterranean's aren't they?
[01:11:20]  Yeah.
[01:11:21]  But still, it's primarily Europeans who have the highest rates of lactose.
[01:11:26]  Tolerance.
[01:11:26]  And that's crazy, man, because I did my Sunday roast yesterday and I've been working on my cauliflower cheese, and it's the most incredible thing.
[01:11:33]  Harry, I've got to make it one day for you, right?
[01:11:35]  Literally, broccoli and cauliflower.
[01:11:38]  So you boil the cauliflower for a bit longer, about 10 minutes longer than the broccoli, to make sure it's all consistent, right?
[01:11:43]  And instead of milk, I'm using half milk, half cream.
[01:11:46]  So double cream.
[01:11:47]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:11:48]  Then obviously, you put all the cheese in it and you end up with this beautiful, creamy, cheesy sauce.
[01:11:54]  And it's genuine.
[01:11:55]  It sounds great except for the broccoli and cauliflower.
[01:11:57]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:11:58]  The broccoli and cauliflower is fine.
[01:11:59]  It's the bulk of dairy and cheese to hide the fact that you're eating broccoli and cauliflower.
[01:12:07]  That's great for you, but you're starting to sound like my mum when I'm sat at the dinner table for roast.
[01:12:12]  You suddenly sound like my kids objecting to the broccoli.
[01:12:15]  Broccoli's nice.
[01:12:17]  I like broccoli.
[01:12:17]  But the point is, it's an amazing, amazing thing.
[01:12:20]  But the point is, and of course, in the sauce, you've got like 50 grams of butter as well.
[01:12:25]  So it's just like this is the most delicious thing in the world.
[01:12:28]  Thank you to my Indo European ancestors who allowed me to enjoy it.
[01:12:32]  I'm willing to try that.

=== Tucker Carlson Feud Predictions (03:04) ===

[01:12:33]  We didn't try that.
[01:12:34]  It'd be worth the stomach upset, I promise.
[01:12:36]  We didn't eat rotten foods.
[01:12:37]  My stomach doesn't get upset with dairy.
[01:12:39]  I don't know.
[01:12:40]  Some people do.
[01:12:41]  Mediterranean people, we eat dairy a lot now.
[01:12:43]  Okay, well, that's fine then.
[01:12:44]  That's good.
[01:12:45]  That's good.
[01:12:46]  That's an extra point on the Firaz can stay.
[01:12:51]  Eat this cauliflower cheese.
[01:12:54]  So I just wanted to highlight that they did do something good.
[01:12:57]  The only big shame is that this is a Soviet style five year plan.
[01:13:02]  And so, if another administration gets into 2028, this is actually a warning of what will probably be coming to you and what might be being served to your kids at school.
[01:13:13]  Back to RFK and his podcast, though, I think the most exciting thing about this development, given what an utter disappointment is, is for when the inevitable feud between him and Trump develops, as seems to happen with all of his former folks when they have a podcast or radio show or just online presence in general.
[01:13:32]  Like, for instance, Everybody knows that Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, all of these people used to be huge supporters of Donald Trump.
[01:13:42]  Alex Jones took massive financial hits for him.
[01:13:46]  Almost went to prison.
[01:13:48]  Tucker lost his show because he was questioning the election in 2020.
[01:13:52]  That's why he lost his show.
[01:13:54]  And then, as a result of the feud, he says, We should impeach Trump, to which Trump responds with, Bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things, lost his entire fortune as he should have for his horrendous attack on the families of Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax, which didn't seem to bother Trump back in 2015.
[01:14:12]  No, when he was going on his show.
[01:14:14]  Yeah, when he went on his show.
[01:14:16]  I love your show.
[01:14:17]  Your show's amazing.
[01:14:18]  I can't wait for the feud because, of course, as well, the other big development was Tucker went on the BBC the other day and just outright called Trump a slave.
[01:14:26]  So I'm looking forward to the essay that Trump's going to put on Truth Social about that as well.
[01:14:31]  Can we pause on this one, though?
[01:14:32]  Because what I think that what you've revealed with all of this is that MAGA itself as a movement has been subverted.
[01:14:39]  Yes.
[01:14:40]  It has been redirected, the nativist energy has been redirected to ends that are not beneficial to the American people.
[01:14:49]  The Make America Healthy Again.
[01:14:50]  Well, that's not happening anymore.
[01:14:51]  And unfortunately, RFK Jr. has become a podcast bro.
[01:14:54]  Now, you know, RFK Jr. was a bit of an ex-Democrat, so he's got lots of opinions that are quite lefty.
[01:15:01]  But overall, I really liked him.
[01:15:02]  And I thought he was a really serious guy who had, you know, thought about this a lot.
[01:15:05]  And so for him to be like, well, I'm going to do a podcast, terrible.
[01:15:09]  And then you get to the other side where Trump is turning on his podcasters.
[01:15:13]  These are the stormtroopers.
[01:15:14]  These are the people who got him elected.
[01:15:15]  Who got him elected.
[01:15:16]  And so now to say, oh, no, all of these people are bad.
[01:15:18]  It's like, okay, who are you doing this for?
[01:15:22]  You know, like, you were, these people, you were shoulder to shoulder with them against the left, against whatever it is, against immigrants, against all these problems, and you were, you know, bombarding and you were winning.
[01:15:33]  And then suddenly you've turned your guns on your own guys.
[01:15:35]  It's like, okay, well, you've got a brainworm then.

=== RFK Jr Podcast Disappointment (06:34) ===

[01:15:38]  What has happened?
[01:15:39]  And as Tucker Carlson says, well, he's become a slave to the Israeli lobby.
[01:15:43]  Yeah, well, I've not heard any complaints coming from the Steve Witkopf, Jared Kushner factions, so I think that says it all.
[01:15:49]  It's tragic.
[01:15:51]  I genuinely feel bad for Americans who have to watch this happen in real time.
[01:15:55]  It is, but there is something to take from this, which is that you do still have some control over what you put in your body.
[01:16:04]  So even if you're in America, I'm sure there are sources of real healthy food that you can get.
[01:16:11]  So if you've got a local butcher's or something where you can source your own food, if you've got a farm nearby that you can go and you can buy products off wholesale directly from them, do so and you will be amazed at how much better you feel for it.
[01:16:24]  Yeah.
[01:16:25]  Just this is the thing, right?
[01:16:27]  There's this.
[01:16:29]  Form of TikTok video.
[01:16:30]  Yeah, do you want to get the video comments up, Samson?
[01:16:33]  Where it's some woman who's like, I'm going to bake something.
[01:16:36]  And you think, okay.
[01:16:37]  And she pulls out like potato chips, the crisps that are already cooked, and she puts them in.
[01:16:42]  And then she pulls out like some glass jar with sauce and pulls that over.
[01:16:45]  And then she gets pre shredded cheese.
[01:16:47]  I'm like, baking is done with ingredients, right?
[01:16:51]  What you have there are finished products.
[01:16:54]  Was she using the crisps?
[01:16:57]  Texture?
[01:16:58]  I don't know, right?
[01:16:59]  But it's just one of those things where it's like, this is gross.
[01:17:02]  Cook with uncooked ingredients, and you'd be amazed at how good your food is.
[01:17:07]  The only time me and the missus have used pre made food for stuff is if you get some digestives and crush them up for the base of a cake or something.
[01:17:14]  Sure.
[01:17:15]  Yes.
[01:17:16]  Which is just what you do.
[01:17:17]  Viable.
[01:17:18]  For anyone who doesn't know, digestive biscuit is the least interesting of all the biscuits.
[01:17:23]  It's also, if you get the dark chocolate ones, one of the most delicious ones.
[01:17:28]  True.
[01:17:28]  Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
[01:17:31]  I would like to pronounce the new Lib Dem leader, Peter Purrer.
[01:17:37]  First and only, banana cat.
[01:17:40]  I mean, after all.
[01:17:42]  Honestly?
[01:17:42]  Who doesn't love a cat?
[01:17:45]  They're more serious than Ed Davey.
[01:17:46]  That's what I was going to say.
[01:17:49]  How would it really be different?
[01:17:50]  You've really captured the vibe there.
[01:17:52]  Yeah.
[01:17:54]  Good point.
[01:17:54]  Next one.
[01:17:56]  So I've been seeing Carl and guys using the term I don't care as a response to left wing whinging.
[01:18:02]  But I think the old novel series Galactic Heroes had a much better catchphrase to it, which is So what?
[01:18:09]  You're being divisive?
[01:18:10]  So what?
[01:18:11]  You're being sensational?
[01:18:13]  So what?
[01:18:14]  You're being racist?
[01:18:16]  So what?
[01:18:16]  Does any of this take away from the facts that we're addressing right now?
[01:18:20]  That's a great point.
[01:18:22]  That is a great point because it leans into what AA always says if you're explaining, you're losing.
[01:18:27]  Yeah.
[01:18:27]  So you put the onus on them to have to explain why I should care.
[01:18:30]  That's great.
[01:18:31]  That's a great point.
[01:18:35]  The interest rate was 15% at the time.
[01:18:38]  I really hate when people say things like this, like I'm supposed to be sympathetic.
[01:18:42]  Even if their interest rate was that high over the entire length of the mortgage, which it wasn't, houses were so much more affordable back then that they still would have paid it off sooner than taking a mortgage out today on the same house.
[01:18:56]  Yeah, this is a.
[01:18:58]  The more factors you add, the less sympathetic I get.
[01:19:01]  Yeah, no, no, it's.
[01:19:03]  This is absolutely.
[01:19:03]  Falling out Josh right there.
[01:19:05]  To be fair, though, Josh should have caught this, and I'm surprised they didn't because 15% of 10 grand is way less, as he's pointing out here, than 4% of 270,000.
[01:19:17]  So it's just like, yeah, sorry, Josh, you should have caught that.
[01:19:19]  And who sent the comment?
[01:19:21]  I can't remember who it was that sent the comment back.
[01:19:23]  You sent this one?
[01:19:24]  Absolutely correct.
[01:19:26]  The Vadriga.
[01:19:27]  Yeah, absolutely correct.
[01:19:28]  Josh totally pwned.
[01:19:30]  Sorry, let's go to the next one.
[01:19:53]  Who's this party for?
[01:19:55]  Them.
[01:19:56]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:19:57]  I mean, literally, you're not allowed to be a candidate, they are.
[01:20:00]  I absolutely would not be allowed to be.
[01:20:02]  Of course, of course, I really would not be.
[01:20:05]  Anyway, let's go to this.
[01:20:07]  Thanks, everyone, for the live event.
[01:20:08]  It was a blast from turning up and seeing the dad's army of protests out front to meeting so many people who were just fun to be around.
[01:20:13]  Shout out to Stuart of Glasgow, and I've forgotten the rest of your names.
[01:20:16]  Sorry.
[01:20:16]  I think Harry's argument on the Star Wars prequels won me over.
[01:20:18]  Beau definitely wasn't buying into my argument that I'm going to keep my hair, and Faras' reaction to hearing about my engagement was fantastic.
[01:20:24]  Cheers for the hug, mate.
[01:20:25]  It was great to finally meet Sophie.
[01:20:26]  Thanks for the free art.
[01:20:27]  And I realized that buying her a drink technically means I paid the Dane Geld, but overall, it was a great night.
[01:20:31]  Carl, I'll consider your offer.
[01:20:33]  Swindon is a much better place for having hosted you all, so please come back again soon.
[01:20:37]  Thanks a lot for coming, man.
[01:20:38]  It was great, Niagara.
[01:20:39]  Yeah, great seeing you.
[01:20:40]  I'm very happy for you.
[01:20:48]  That was awesome.
[01:21:15]  Wholesome windmills are beautiful, but classic windmills, not the modern monstrosities.
[01:21:21]  Yeah, they really missed a trick with the aesthetics, didn't they?
[01:21:24]  They could have won the right over by just making them look pretty.
[01:21:27]  Yeah, anyway, unlike its English namesake, Chatham in southern Ontario is not widely known for anything.
[01:21:33]  Well, I like to invoke the name to Italians, even including Italian Americans, as the birthplace of the Hawaiian pizza by a Greek who understood that pineapple does belong on pizza.
[01:21:44]  Anyway, for when Carl is next back on the podcast.
[01:21:46]  He can add Chatham to his list of places to visit to maybe glimpse the Sasquatch.
[01:21:52]  Hey man, you know, just saying, the truth is out there.
[01:21:55]  Maybe the Sasquatch was the friends we made along the way.
[01:21:58]  But that was a beautiful looking area.
[01:21:59]  Yeah, it didn't look too bad.
[01:22:01]  Gorgeous.
[01:22:02]  Let's get the next one.
[01:22:04]  Hey Lotus Eaters, you guys need to do a lad's hour where you watch the videos by Sergeant Ducky, specifically his videos about living with a woman.

=== Truth Is Out There (03:10) ===

[01:22:12]  They are quite insightful, and I guarantee you, you are going to commiserate.
[01:22:18]  As a man who lives with a woman, I don't think I need any sort of guide on how to do it.
[01:22:23]  I've been doing it for years now.
[01:22:26]  It could be funny.
[01:22:27]  It could still be good.
[01:22:28]  Oh, no, I'm not saying it would be funny.
[01:22:29]  It could be funny.
[01:22:29]  I wouldn't want my wife to watch it, but it could be quite fun.
[01:22:34]  The next one.
[01:22:36]  People are wondering where all of the new reform candidates are coming from, and it's cold calling.
[01:22:41]  Cold calling has a very low success rate, single digit percentages.
[01:22:46]  And there are two sorts of people who have responded to that.
[01:22:49]  That is opportunistic people with an ulterior motive and morons.
[01:22:54]  People who didn't realise it was a cold call and thought that Ignage himself had picked them from a list and seen their inherent genius.
[01:23:02]  So, class A morons.
[01:23:05]  And those people on student visas?
[01:23:12]  Lotus eaters, racists, misogynists, racists, lotus eaters, Islamophobes.
[01:23:33]  I mean, what's your point?
[01:23:35]  So, what is the correct answer, right?
[01:23:38]  Yes.
[01:23:41]  I'm just glad they got a bit of exercise.
[01:23:44]  At least he's a bit self aware.
[01:23:46]  That's not the real sign.
[01:23:48]  Oh.
[01:23:50]  Although.
[01:23:52]  Just for a second.
[01:23:54]  Well, on the so what thing, Fictagious just said so what means you are what they're saying?
[01:24:00]  Don't care means you discredit what they say, stick with don't care.
[01:24:03]  Don't know if I agree there because it depends on what you're being accused of in the first place.
[01:24:07]  For instance, if somebody says you're causing division, if you say don't care or so what, you're kind of saying, oh, I am.
[01:24:15]  So what?
[01:24:16]  Yeah, I mean.
[01:24:17]  Yeah, you are kind of, that's correct.
[01:24:19]  But also, so what is more important there because it forces them to explain why your division is worse than their division, right?
[01:24:25]  So they're literally here opposing you as a divided faction.
[01:24:28]  So I think you are right.
[01:24:30]  I mean, there are going to be times where so what and don't care are, you know, one's more appropriate than the other.
[01:24:36]  But I think you're definitely right on that one.
[01:24:38]  Also, we got two $10 in that we should probably read Cranky Texan, administrations appear to control the institutions when they are aligned with the money.
[01:24:45]  When an administration is not aligned with the money, the control of the institutions is revealed to be an illusion.
[01:24:50]  Sadly, it seems to check out.
[01:24:51]  Crash Bandit, wow, who knew if you feed people cow and chicken food, we get fat like they do?
[01:24:59]  I know, what a surprise.
[01:25:00]  And also, the amount of stuff that you look into, like cornstarch, and you see it was originally developed as an industrial lubricant.
[01:25:08]  Yeah.
[01:25:08]  And you go, why should anybody be putting this in their body?
[01:25:12]  Technically, it's digestible.
[01:25:14]  Well, technically, it's got calories and some carbohydrates.
[01:25:19]  Yeah, I bet it's fucking got some carbs in it.
[01:25:20]  Yeah, I bet, yeah.
[01:25:22]  Connor has left this comment.

=== Bribed Politicians Problem (05:14) ===

[01:25:23]  Great to see everyone on Saturday.
[01:25:24]  Congratulations to Harry and Luca on total victory in the prequels debate.
[01:25:29]  That remains to be seen.
[01:25:31]  Omar says, didn't Boomer the audio or notably suffer tech issues once?
[01:25:35]  Barely recognize you anymore.
[01:25:38]  Again, you can thank Mecca for the quality of the venue.
[01:25:40]  Yes.
[01:25:41]  Grace says, great event.
[01:25:43]  Really good crowd and energy in the room.
[01:25:44]  Thanks, guys, for a good night.
[01:25:45]  Our pleasure.
[01:25:46]  Starmer's new rent boy says, so who did win the Star Wars?
[01:25:50]  No, he said Fuels gets to decide because he was the moderator.
[01:25:53]  No, no, no, no.
[01:25:54]  Alex says, there's an opportunity there, Carl.
[01:25:56]  With a bit more money, you could buy the old Swindon Advertiser building and move the load seaters there.
[01:26:00]  Not sure your company can take on that sort of financial speculation, but it would revive the building for its old purpose.
[01:26:05]  Yeah, I know.
[01:26:06]  It's interesting, isn't it?
[01:26:07]  Well, that was funny when you said that they've been bought out by a large American corporation, and when they started, they were anti government.
[01:26:13]  It's like, are we the Swindon advertiser?
[01:26:15]  Yes, we're the modern.
[01:26:17]  The Swindon advertiser used to be.
[01:26:18]  Rory made this point to me a while ago.
[01:26:19]  I was like, oh, yeah.
[01:26:21]  You know, this is a great observation.
[01:26:24]  If I'd been there, I would have told the protesters that Carla's black and therefore can't be racist.
[01:26:29]  I don't make the rules, I just exploit them for fun and profit.
[01:26:32]  Kevin says, the real kicker was the guys queuing to get into the venue, popping across at the protesters and getting selfies with them.
[01:26:37]  Well, you know, I mean, yeah, they're not going to be there all the time, are they?
[01:26:40]  In fact, apparently, as soon as the event started, they're just pissed off.
[01:26:44]  Their protest was not spirited in the slightest.
[01:26:46]  Yes.
[01:26:48]  True.
[01:26:48]  Elliot says, I've heard the phrase people have short memories in politics, but Nigel really takes the cake.
[01:26:54]  Yeah, it's honestly preposterous for Tice to be like, yeah, we're going to hold those Tories to account.
[01:27:02]  Or get in the dock, Robert Jemrick.
[01:27:04]  Like, he's going to be the prosecutor and the prosecuted at the same time.
[01:27:07]  Like, it's just preposterous.
[01:27:10]  Ghulain says, they're all traitors and bastards.
[01:27:13]  The only real question is, is it too late for the people who are finally realising the scale?
[01:27:17]  No, it's never too late.
[01:27:19]  We just need to be aware of what we need to do.
[01:27:22]  At this point, if you're still a reform supporter, you're not paying attention.
[01:27:26]  It's often said there are good people in there, but helping Farage and his DEI team is not in Britain's interest.
[01:27:31]  Well, the thing is, they are, as you can feel, slowly but surely draining out of their party because it's becoming apparent what that party is.
[01:27:39]  Zesty says, does Farage plan on removing the Boris wave?
[01:27:42]  He's on record stating that mass deportations cannot be done.
[01:27:45]  Just like the Grimming Gang report, he is all talk and no walk.
[01:27:48]  Correct.
[01:27:49]  And let's not forget, as Michael points out, Farage backstabbed low.
[01:27:53]  So people are moving away from France.
[01:27:54]  And that's exactly the point, isn't it?
[01:27:56]  Farage is literally the least reliable politician in the country.
[01:28:01]  He just doesn't stand by anything.
[01:28:03]  Ever.
[01:28:05]  Richard says, You need to find one of the signs so you can post it in the office.
[01:28:08]  It'll make you feel good all day.
[01:28:11]  Bangers and mash is my typical meal, or boiled eggs and ham.
[01:28:14]  I mean, that's all good.
[01:28:15]  Yep.
[01:28:16]  Imperial Melder says, Imagine if reform flops at the local elections, it could potentially cause Farage to take his ball and go home.
[01:28:22]  Gutted, I couldn't make the live event hopefully next time.
[01:28:24]  Yeah.
[01:28:25]  Well, that's the thing.
[01:28:26]  I mean, I'm sure they will be the most successful party in the local elections, but the question is will they underperform or not?
[01:28:33]  And if they do underperform, well, that's going to be another sort of a blot on their record.
[01:28:40]  Callum says, You should put the sign from the protest, Poison in Our Midst, on a t shirt.
[01:28:44]  Yeah, it was a great logo for a t shirt.
[01:28:46]  It was based, wasn't it?
[01:28:47]  I want to know, have they taken that from like a band or something?
[01:28:50]  Is it copyright?
[01:28:51]  Because if not, I really like that logo.
[01:28:54]  Yeah, yeah, it was very, very, very cool.
[01:28:58]  Just some other things from some of the paid comments.
[01:29:01]  Bald Eagle did some digging and there's concerning things Trump has done internally quietly.
[01:29:05]  Looks like he's basically given up on the domestic policy he campaigned on.
[01:29:09]  If so, that's really, really disheartening.
[01:29:11]  And also, it does kind of appear from a foreigner's lens, it appears like he's just gone all in on foreign policy.
[01:29:19]  Completely in on Israel.
[01:29:21]  And even not the foreign policy he campaigned on.
[01:29:23]  Yeah, not even America's.
[01:29:25]  JC Warlock, have you ever heard of the trade group called Codex Alimentarius?
[01:29:32]  I haven't heard of Codex Alimentarius, no.
[01:29:35]  Neither have I. Bald Eagle, the problem in the US is that the people who want to change things are running into the wall of politicians and employees that have been bribed to keep things going.
[01:29:43]  A specific way, yeah.
[01:29:44]  I mean, is lobbying not just bribes?
[01:29:47]  I mean, it seems to be, yeah.
[01:29:48]  It's legalized bribery.
[01:29:50]  It's legalized bribery, yes.
[01:29:52]  So you just need to just ban lobbying.
[01:29:55]  But nobody's going to do that because, I mean, the people who would be banning lobbying are being lobbied and being bribed not to do it.
[01:30:01]  Yeah, we're asking the people who are being paid handsome sums to agree not to be paid handsome sums.
[01:30:07]  And I don't think they're going to sign up to it.
[01:30:08]  Would a spirited patriotic argument maybe sway their hearts?
[01:30:12]  I guess not, because it's still going.
[01:30:13]  Anyway, it's revolution then.
[01:30:15]  We're, uh, On that bombshell, we're out of time, so thank you for joining us, folks.
[01:30:19]  We'll be back in half an hour with Firas' Realpolitik.
[01:30:22]  And once again, thank you everyone for the wonderful weekend.
[01:30:25]  It was really, really good.
[01:30:27]  We're all tired because of how much energy we put out.
[01:30:31]  So if we're feeling a bit low energy today, we do apologise, but it's been a great weekend.
[01:30:35]  Anyway, we'll see you in half an hour.
[01:30:37]  Take care.