The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1384 Aired: 2026-03-27 Duration: 01:30:05 === Forgiving Past History (14:08) === [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters. [00:00:02] This is podcast 1384 for the 26th of March 2026. [00:00:07] Oh 27th actually, I wrote the date wrong yesterday when I put the document together. [00:00:12] Elite Human Capital. [00:00:13] Hey, I was focusing on the quality of the segment, all right, not the date that's irrelevant to me. [00:00:16] All the days roll into one when you're busy anyway. [00:00:19] And I'm joined with, joined by Nick. [00:00:21] I've been thrown off now. [00:00:22] And Bo. [00:00:22] An eccentric genius. [00:00:24] He can't boil an egg, but you're like a physicist that can't boil an egg. [00:00:28] I can boil eggs. [00:00:29] All right. [00:00:30] I can just about muster that. [00:00:32] But Nick's talking about how someone's wife is a whore. [00:00:36] I think that you were just going to say that word on the internet. [00:00:40] You weren't meant to read that out. [00:00:41] But yeah, a man who had a viral post saying that his wife was formerly promiscuous, but he's a virgin and it's just gone viral. [00:00:47] 35 million views. [00:00:48] So yeah. [00:00:48] It's much funnier to pronounce the word whore as hoo as well, where possible. [00:00:53] So if you're Scottish, it just comes naturally then. [00:00:55] Or like an American Italian. [00:00:58] Weird convergence. [00:01:00] Yeah. [00:01:00] Yeah, who would have thought? [00:01:02] I'm going to be talking about how the UN has been trying to get people to pay slavery reparations and Bo's going to be talking about the assault on Carg Island. [00:01:11] So an eclectic mix, one thing I... [00:01:14] It's one of the most eclectic shows I've ever heard. [00:01:18] I also need to mention that there is a Gold Tier Zoom call at 3pm today with Stelios and Harry. [00:01:24] So if you'd like to talk to them, ask some questions, talk to each other. [00:01:28] You know, you know how these things work by now. [00:01:31] Tune in then, and I suppose... [00:01:33] And Breakfast with Bo. [00:01:34] Breakfast with Bo, yeah, that. [00:01:36] Top show. [00:01:37] I caught a few minutes of it this morning. [00:01:38] Oh, did you? [00:01:39] I was actually up. [00:01:40] Yeah, yeah, no, it's a good show. [00:01:41] Oh, cheers. [00:01:42] Cheers. [00:01:42] Going very well. [00:01:43] Thank you. [00:01:44] Recommended. [00:01:45] And I'm not just saying that because he's here. [00:01:48] He's going to get you. [00:01:49] He's going to call you up. [00:01:50] No. [00:01:51] You ready? [00:01:52] I'm ready. [00:01:52] Born ready, mate. [00:01:53] But I think we've got to talk about first the live show, Lotus Eaters Live, April 11th, 7 o'clock in Swindon. [00:01:59] Be there. [00:02:00] I'm going to be on it. [00:02:01] Coming out of retirement, I did do a decade of live performance, but it's very hard to get me back on the stage. [00:02:06] I'm not saying it's a stand-up gig. [00:02:08] It might become one. [00:02:09] But yeah, you're there, aren't you? [00:02:10] I am, yes. [00:02:11] You see, he's not even done any work here and he's there. [00:02:13] Bo's there. [00:02:14] All your favourites. [00:02:15] You'll be the most experienced person with actually like stage experience. [00:02:19] Yes. [00:02:20] By far. [00:02:20] But they might not want my bants. [00:02:22] They might want like serious points. [00:02:23] But let's see. [00:02:24] Let's see. [00:02:24] It'll probably be like a lad's hour, won't it? [00:02:26] But live. [00:02:26] I think we're doing something like basically like a podcast live, some other thing in the middle, and then like a lad's hour live. [00:02:34] Three odd hours. [00:02:36] Wow. [00:02:38] There you go. [00:02:39] Star Wars prequel debate. [00:02:40] No one's told me how I'm getting hooked. [00:02:41] Jojo did nothing wrong. [00:02:42] Yeah. [00:02:43] All right. [00:02:43] I better watch those then. [00:02:45] So go to that. [00:02:45] Come to that, in fact, is a better word. [00:02:47] 11th of April. [00:02:48] Be there or be an absolute dork. [00:02:50] Be an absolute, won't say the word beginning with H. W. Sorry. [00:02:54] Square. [00:02:55] Yeah, exactly. [00:02:56] All right. [00:02:56] So I saw that really well. [00:02:57] Not tired at all. [00:02:59] And now let's get into the segment. [00:03:02] So you may have seen on the old internet that a man went viral for his post about his formerly promiscuous wife and he was a virgin. [00:03:09] And this has had, let's have a quick look at how many views. [00:03:12] 35.2 million views. [00:03:14] So a few schools of thought on this. [00:03:17] One is this guy's a cook. [00:03:19] What are you doing? [00:03:19] Don't post that on the internet. [00:03:21] That's one school of thought. [00:03:22] The other is, oh, this is nice. [00:03:23] This is Christian redemption through repentance. [00:03:26] You can be saved. [00:03:28] And it's actually a nice, wholesome thing. [00:03:30] The third option is this guy is a media marketer, social media marketer for Christian organizations, just doing his job incredibly well. [00:03:38] He's managed to get 35 million views. [00:03:40] So that's another take. [00:03:41] Is he that? [00:03:42] Yeah. [00:03:42] All right. [00:03:43] That's his life. [00:03:43] All right. [00:03:44] That's his, or that's what it says. [00:03:45] His life is his job. [00:03:46] Yeah, yeah. [00:03:47] I was going to say that him sharing this, that's something that if I were in his position, which I'm thankfully not, you wouldn't be able to get out of me if you started filleting me alive. [00:03:56] Someone says something like that later. [00:03:57] We'll get on to that. [00:03:59] I would, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't air my dirty laundry on Twitter. [00:04:03] None of us would do this because we're all English and we're not weirdos, so it wouldn't happen. [00:04:08] But this guy did it, and I'm trying to be nice because there are different, there are genuine, basically, I've sort of, yeah, like anyone, I thought, what are you doing? [00:04:15] But I've since seen Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire attack him. [00:04:17] So now that makes me want to lean back and go, actually, he's alright. [00:04:20] Because the way they attacked him was quite crass, which we'll probably end up doing. [00:04:24] I think attacking him's a little bit harsh. [00:04:27] His impulses aren't necessarily bad that he's willing to forgive someone for sin. [00:04:32] It's hard to hold that against someone. [00:04:36] He's not approaching it with God's will. [00:04:38] But yeah. [00:04:39] And it's, of course, it speaks to this larger thing of trad life versus modern dating. [00:04:43] Can you be a Christian in the debased modern world? [00:04:46] Pretty interesting. [00:04:46] Let's just have a look. [00:04:48] Didn't Ben Shapiro marry his high school sweetheart or whatever? [00:04:52] Wasn't he? [00:04:53] Wasn't Ben Shapiro a virgin before he got married? [00:04:55] The difference was his wife wasn't promiscuous. [00:04:57] Oh, okay. [00:04:58] All right. [00:04:58] If both virgins, I mean, that's probably quite wholesome and ideal, maybe. [00:05:02] If one's promiscuous, and if it's the woman, that's the question. [00:05:06] So it's changed the dynamic, doesn't it? [00:05:07] That's the question. [00:05:08] My wife was formerly promiscuous. [00:05:09] I was a virgin. [00:05:10] She was then radically born again, committed to church, evangelized constantly, puritan books in her bedroom, prayer journals, grief over past sexual sin, etc. [00:05:19] We got to know each other well over a year, dated for four months, engaged for two and a half, and didn't sin sexually with one another. [00:05:25] Our first kiss with each other was at the altar on our wedding day. [00:05:29] That's extreme. [00:05:30] I mean, that is like, not even a kiss. [00:05:32] That is what I saw Fuentes react to this. [00:05:34] He's like, dude, what did you talk to her about for all that time? [00:05:37] Women aren't that interesting. [00:05:39] Obviously, disavow and all that. [00:05:41] But yeah, I mean, that's a lot of dating first. [00:05:43] That is a, that's, I mean, extraordinary. [00:05:46] We've been married for over five years now, and she's been the most wonderful and godly wife, mother to our three children, and homemaker you can imagine. [00:05:51] That's nice. [00:05:52] I mean, there is elements of wholesomeness. [00:05:55] Yeah. [00:05:56] Although I'm skeptical of forgiving past history, the way he's talking about it, I can't necessarily be that mad at him because he's trying to make the best of it. [00:06:05] I know this might be the ultimate point you want to save to the end. [00:06:09] I'll just say it now. [00:06:10] If they're happy and it works, what's the problem? [00:06:15] Because my first. [00:06:17] Because my first. [00:06:18] I've not read this. [00:06:18] This didn't come up on my timeline. [00:06:20] But from the first few bits you've just read out there, yeah, it doesn't seem doesn't seem healthy to me that you haven't even kissed her. [00:06:30] But, as I say, the bottom line is if they're healthy and it works, and they're happy, sorry, and it works, then there's no problem, is there? [00:06:38] I suppose there's still a secondary problem of would you post it? [00:06:40] But yeah, other than that. [00:06:41] Yeah, and I wouldn't. [00:06:42] And this was a part that really wound people up. [00:06:44] She's more pure than most virgins. [00:06:46] As biblical purity has less to do with past sins, though they certainly matter, and more to do with one's current posture of the heart and daily decisions to honour the Lord. [00:06:54] Matthew 5.8, interesting claim. [00:06:55] More pure than most virgins. [00:06:57] We're far too quick to forget the story of the woman labelled and known as sinner, likely a prostitute in Luke. [00:07:01] He does a lot of biblical quotes. [00:07:03] Crux of it is, everyone seems to highlight the benefits of virginity, and it certainly is a blessing, but we forget to highlight the benefits of being forgiven much as well. [00:07:10] My wife knows the depths of Jesus' forgiveness more than most people, enabling her to more easily live out a life of passionate love for her Savior. [00:07:17] You could argue passionate love was the issue here, but that's never mind that. [00:07:21] A woman or man's past sexual sin matters, but what matters far more when it comes to deciding who to marry is if the person is truly born again, if their repentance is real, if they truly have a heart for Christ, if they truly follow Jesus and obey his commands, go on. [00:07:37] No, no, you go ahead. [00:07:39] I'm not a Christian myself. [00:07:40] I'm not a practicing Christian. [00:07:43] Does the love of Christ really play a big part in your actual bedroom activities one way or another? [00:07:55] I mean, is it, you know, how is that? [00:07:58] Well, he's talking about forgiveness, isn't he? [00:07:59] He's saying what matters far more is whether they're really born again, and then it doesn't matter what they've done. [00:08:04] To be fair, since this post, I just saw it last night, and it was too late to include it, and it was nothing, there was no great clip in it, but they actually did do a short podcast. [00:08:12] And they both went through a lot. [00:08:14] The woman was on drugs. [00:08:16] She was having overdoses. [00:08:18] Her father, who was, I think, a police officer, said, I've seen a lot of this. [00:08:21] If you carry on, you'll die. [00:08:23] And the guy was on drugs as well. [00:08:25] And so they're basically people who've had troubled lives who've come to come to Jesus. [00:08:29] So that is positive. [00:08:30] That is positive. [00:08:33] But the question is, do you want to post this on the internet? [00:08:35] And this picture kind of became famous because he's got the soy face. [00:08:40] He's that's this dude. [00:08:42] I just realized I can't say anything else I want to say, but definitely the soy face was the thing that people were saying. [00:08:47] Some people said he was gay. [00:08:48] There was a lot of that going around. [00:08:50] It's a bit unnecessary. [00:08:51] Yeah, a bit harsh. [00:08:52] Yeah, a bit harsh. [00:08:52] I'm not saying any of these things. [00:08:53] Maybe I'll try and get him on my podcast target. [00:08:55] Just be careful what I say. [00:08:56] There's the old adage of the when someone flips in their thinking or their worldview, they become, especially if it was extreme in the first instance, they become extremely other thing. [00:09:07] There's more zeal in a convert, right? [00:09:09] Yeah, yeah. [00:09:10] Or the sort of the prudishness of a reformed prostitute. [00:09:14] I'm not saying this woman's a prostitute or anything, but you know, you get the adage of it. [00:09:19] I was an extreme leftist and now I'm extreme right. [00:09:22] Yeah. [00:09:22] It's like, well, you were unbalanced and now you're unbalanced the other way. [00:09:25] Sorry? [00:09:26] I said Lewis Blackpool. [00:09:29] So I just was fired. [00:09:31] He's a good guy. [00:09:33] Yeah, no, so it's like it's not a good balance to have been extremely promiscuous and now you're ultra-born again. [00:09:41] You're a Puritan on some level. [00:09:43] It might be that just be normal and well balanced. [00:09:46] Probably best. [00:09:47] It might be that some people need that so therefore they may as well show extreme on Christianity rather than on if it works for them, if it works for her, if it works for this couple, there's no problem. [00:09:56] Other than the posting it online thing. [00:09:58] I think there is an existing phenomenon where people who have had quite extreme lives sort of throw themselves at religion because they are riddled with the guilt that they've accumulated over their lives and they're looking for some sort of forgiveness. [00:10:11] So I believe that side of it is genuine, but at the same time, I'm not a religious man and I'm not as forgiving as some people. [00:10:18] And I think that just washing away people's past mistakes sometimes is misguided. [00:10:26] But if they've genuinely taken efforts to be better, I think you can be more forgiving. [00:10:32] But at the same time, I personally don't absolve myself of any mistakes I've made in my life. [00:10:36] I still torture myself over being rude to people when I was like eight years old. [00:10:41] I'm like that. [00:10:42] So I'm not very forgiving to me. [00:10:45] And even though I'm a bit more forgiving to other people, I still find it a little bit hard myself. [00:10:49] That brutal personality profile of like the Punisher or Dirty Harry or something. [00:10:54] That's the most complimentary thing to have ever said to you. [00:10:56] You know what? [00:10:57] There is another aspect though. [00:10:58] She's in a culture that's completely debased. [00:10:59] She's following that culture. [00:11:01] So she's just, you know, following the prompts of that culture. [00:11:04] The other thing we haven't mentioned is from the red pill perspective, this is called hitting the wall. [00:11:08] And it's an extreme version of it. [00:11:10] You know, you get the hitting the wall. [00:11:11] Women have had their party years and then they want to settle down and get married and have children. [00:11:14] They suddenly hit the wall and they go, oh no, I've got to get a stable guy instead of the bad boy and all that. [00:11:20] The extreme version of it is the religious conversion where you've had your party years. [00:11:24] This is in red pill terminology and then you hit the wall, but you go all the way into the Christian version of hitting the wall rather than just, you know, settling down. [00:11:32] Well, there have been a few prominent examples of people who propose themselves as being these very traditional Christians and then it turns out they're more degenerate than anyone. [00:11:41] Like I'm always very shocked because I might not be religious but I at least try my best to be a moral person. [00:11:47] But these people wearing the sort of skin suit of religiosity and then turn out to be some of the worst people going. [00:11:54] That's that's true, but you're an atheist, so that's bad in itself. [00:11:57] Um, moving on, we've got so many links. [00:12:00] Um, this is a godless heathen, wicked child. [00:12:03] This is her, it's it's nonsense. [00:12:05] This is her testimony, as she calls it. [00:12:07] Uh, she went from New Age yoga mystic to born-again Christian. [00:12:10] So, she essentially went from the dance stage at Glastonbury in 1998, like ambient vibes, trip hop, lives in Bristol or Brighton, plays whatever that is, looks like a witch. [00:12:21] I think that's a bong, isn't it? [00:12:23] But luckily, Christianity Christianity brought into smart casual normality, so it's a great story. [00:12:28] Yeah, the most important thing is how she dresses, Nick. [00:12:30] Is it? [00:12:31] She was just super into that. [00:12:33] And I learned more about this from the podcast. [00:12:34] She was super into that lifestyle. [00:12:36] And even she had even people saying to her, Oh, don't go in for Christianity. [00:12:39] It's just a teaching. [00:12:40] It's just spirituality is like more advanced. [00:12:41] So she was going, Hang on, I think it might be true. [00:12:43] So, to be fair to her, she was listening to all these guru types and all the yoga nonsense. [00:12:47] And then she actually, I think Christianity is much better than I would say that, but I think it's whatever that was. [00:12:52] It's sort of snake oil, isn't it? [00:12:54] It's a lot of spinning a yarn to modern people who are without any meaning in their lives. [00:13:00] What is? [00:13:01] No, no, no. [00:13:02] They're spiritual. [00:13:02] Yeah, yeah. [00:13:03] New age. [00:13:04] Anglican. [00:13:06] Yeah. [00:13:06] Well, but I don't, but I'm such a bad Christian. [00:13:08] I sort of don't really go on about it. [00:13:09] I'm just, you know, I can't go on about it because I'm so bad. [00:13:13] And I'm too antisocial to go to church and it's too early. [00:13:17] Here's more of a story here. [00:13:19] Let's have a little look. [00:13:20] This is a quite a brutal edit, I'm afraid. [00:13:22] Get such a godly, sweet, loving, servant-hearted husband after being with so many horrible men. [00:13:31] After being with so many horrible men. [00:13:35] I was with so many horrible men in my past and can't even count how many men I've been with. [00:13:39] And can't even count how many men I've been with. [00:13:43] My past before I was a Christian. [00:13:46] And they're all horrible to me. [00:13:47] And of course, that all changed once I became a Christian because godly, Christ-like men are like Jesus. [00:13:55] Like Jesus. [00:13:57] I'm one of the genuinely godly Christian man, and I found him at church. [00:14:04] So, if you've ever edited that, needs some lashes. === Surviving Horrible Men (06:12) === [00:14:08] They weren't very convincing. [00:14:09] Yeah, but basically she's saying that she went out with loads of blokes and now she's pretty much what we already knew actually. [00:14:15] It's a bit of a weird way she was framing it. [00:14:17] It had that sort of you know when someone who's been in war sort of has this glazed over look about them when they're thousand yard stare. [00:14:25] Yeah. [00:14:26] I'm glad you said yar there. [00:14:27] Yeah, you said yeah, because we're on YouTube you said yeah. [00:14:29] Thousand something stare. [00:14:32] Yeah. [00:14:33] Yard. [00:14:34] Do you know what? [00:14:35] Some people said this puts people off Christianity. [00:14:37] If Twitter was my only interaction with Christianity, I would be an atheist, this person says. [00:14:41] And similarly, I just want you to know that posting S like this will turn more young men away from the church than it will ever attract. [00:14:47] So the idea that young men with testosterone will find this kind of lame possible. [00:14:51] This one, I'm going to say hoe instead because it's on YouTube and that's a garden implement. [00:14:56] Husband, honey, Twitter is going to pay us $257 for my tweet. [00:15:00] Wife, that's wonderful. [00:15:01] Did you go viral for speaking about Jesus? [00:15:03] Husband, no, I told them how you're a big ass hoe before we met. [00:15:06] So I can see the argument that it's not great from that perspective, the posting aspect. [00:15:11] I mean, in my opinion, if they're actually living a healthy and traditional life now, it's better than them not meeting, right? [00:15:18] It's not for me, that's for sure. [00:15:20] But if there's a man out there that's willing to take the hit, then credit to him, I guess. [00:15:26] Mark's safe from calling my wife a hoe on the internet today. [00:15:29] These are just pure comic ones I just included for bants, really. [00:15:32] Are you coming to bed? [00:15:33] I can't. [00:15:34] This is important. [00:15:34] What? [00:15:34] I have to tell the internet you are. [00:15:36] I mean, it is kind of weird, right? [00:15:38] Yeah, well, yeah. [00:15:39] It is a weird thing to be doing. [00:15:40] I guess she probably isn't. [00:15:42] I don't know, but I would have imagined she's not that thrilled with his story. [00:15:45] No, she's been true. [00:15:46] She said, actually, she said on the podcast that it's not been. [00:15:48] Yeah, it's not going to be great for. [00:15:50] Well, no, no, actually, to be fair, she's not been. [00:15:52] The reaction's obviously been like not necessarily great, but the she says she's not ashamed because she had already put her journey out there for years anyway. [00:16:00] So that part she's like, no, I have no shame over anymore. [00:16:02] So then there you go. [00:16:03] This one is very much what Josh had at the start. [00:16:05] A team of Mossad interrogators in a car battery factory couldn't get this first sentence out of me, meaning my wife was formerly I was a virgin. [00:16:12] So Surf was quite funny. [00:16:14] He just pasted in the exact thing, but just put Sarah Stock at the bottom and said, as you see the point he's making. [00:16:19] I didn't want to go there personally, but I don't know who that is. [00:16:22] It's an e-girl who was found to be cheating after posing as Trad and was found to be cheating on her fiancĂ©. [00:16:28] Okay, I get it. [00:16:29] I see. [00:16:29] We covered it with Stellios Basali. [00:16:31] I'm assembling a team of religious influencers. [00:16:33] See, this is kind of the thing. [00:16:34] You've got this girl. [00:16:35] Is it Nala? [00:16:36] She was on the Daily Wire, Michael Knowles, after being an OnlyFans girl. [00:16:39] So the idea here is there's a bit of a grift where you say, like, you have a dodgy backstory, and then you say, I'm now super trad, put me on the Daily Wire. [00:16:47] Right. [00:16:48] Yeah, I disagree with this sort of thing. [00:16:50] Like, if you've got to the point where you're making money from creating adult content, I can't call it what I want to call it on YouTube. [00:16:59] Yeah, you're irredeemable. [00:17:01] That's the kind of thing where I don't think you should be. [00:17:03] Oh, shit. [00:17:04] I mean, again, not a practicing Christian, but brought up in the Christian milieu, of course. [00:17:10] Right. [00:17:10] And being an ancient history nerd and studying late antiquity or the early Christian period and all that sort of thing, having some sort of understanding of the Christian creed, all different types of it. [00:17:21] It's my understanding that it's not first and foremost about like your sex life, really. [00:17:27] I mean, that's an element of it, of course. [00:17:29] But isn't it more about the redemption of your soul in many different ways? [00:17:36] The Ten Commandments, the preaching of Jesus, the First Church, all that sort of thing. [00:17:40] It's not necessarily about just coming to terms with your own promiscuity. [00:17:45] It's a bit more than that, isn't it? [00:17:47] So you can make your whole Christian conversion about feeling guilty about how many men you've slept with. [00:17:54] It doesn't seem like that's the main thing about Christianity, is it? [00:17:58] That's definitely the case for this red-haired girl, but this with the fake hair, but this girl, she also was talking about the drugs and things like that. [00:18:04] So I think she has gone through the whole thing. [00:18:06] Like, you know, she was, she had that haircut. [00:18:09] She was listening to, she was doing drugs. [00:18:11] She had dreadlocks. [00:18:12] You know, she's repented for all of it. [00:18:13] But I see your point. [00:18:15] He was a virgin. [00:18:16] She was formally promiscuous. [00:18:17] Because can I make it any more obvious? [00:18:18] That's just an Avalovima. [00:18:20] No other reason for that to be in the. [00:18:21] I've put in too many comic ones here. [00:18:23] My wife was formally promiscuous, so I abandoned her on a hiking trail. [00:18:26] Have you heard about this? [00:18:27] That's the hiking trail. [00:18:28] Women are being abandoned by their partners on hiking trails. [00:18:30] What's behind Alpine divorce? [00:18:32] So that person put together both memes. [00:18:33] As someone who does a lot of hiking, I entirely understand it. [00:18:36] I've never done it, but I can understand the impulse. [00:18:38] But it happens more than once. [00:18:39] This is where it's a trend where men get angry with their girlfriend or wife being annoying on a mountain. [00:18:44] They just leave it. [00:18:45] One guy in the article left with another girl, walked down the hill with a different girl because she was, and then they broke up. [00:18:51] Yeah, it's quite hard. [00:18:52] I'm not surprised. [00:18:52] It's alpine divorce. [00:18:53] No, it's a horrible thing to do. [00:18:55] I mean, no matter how annoying they are, you know, you're putting someone in a survival situation. [00:18:59] Yeah, at least finish the wolf. [00:19:01] Let the bears get, yeah, not great. [00:19:03] It's more on the nature theme. [00:19:04] This is a woman who married a river and she keeps her romance alive. [00:19:08] So Jarvis is combining memes. [00:19:10] She was a bit promiscuous in the past, sleeping with cricks, streams, ponds, etc. [00:19:13] And even had a weird fling with a lagoon one time, but I'm glad she was able to settle down. [00:19:18] There's a lot of people. [00:19:19] A bit free-flowing with her love, is she? [00:19:20] Had a one-night stand with a bill of bowl. [00:19:24] Back onto the serious stuff. [00:19:25] Michael Knowles says, Dad, what should I do if I want to have a good marriage? [00:19:28] Well, son, my first piece of advice is to avoid calling your wife a hoe, reformed or otherwise, to strangers on the internet. [00:19:33] So, you know, that was one take. [00:19:34] And he did address that take the original guy. [00:19:36] Like, let's just see what Knowles had to say about it. [00:19:39] Rich. [00:19:42] We owe each other a little bit of discretion. [00:19:44] We owe each other a little bit of a gracious comportment. [00:19:47] Not just the grace to say, I forgive you and you can move forward, but also the grace to move on to forget about it. [00:19:55] If this guy's going to say, you know, if he's trying to teach a lesson to people that they don't need to be bogged down in their sin forever, he might hide who he's talking about. [00:20:06] He might say, you know, a good friend of mine or, you know, someone I care about very much used to be like this and now this person is like this. [00:20:13] Just say, hey, here's a picture of my wife. [00:20:15] She was a big mega slut, but now she's not so much anymore. [00:20:18] Isn't it great? === Hiding Sinful Friends (13:10) === [00:20:20] It's no, we owe each other a little bit of discretion. [00:20:23] We owe each other a little bit of good comport. [00:20:26] I think I don't agree with all of Knowles' takes, but he seems like a reasonable dude most of the time. [00:20:34] That's certainly a reasonable take to me. [00:20:37] Seems. [00:20:38] Yeah. [00:20:39] I think so. [00:20:40] I think the discretion part is reasonable. [00:20:41] And I think the reason it's all strange for us is because we're English. [00:20:44] I just happened to see this post when I was looking at this. [00:20:46] One of the best aspects of Anglo-culture is a stiff upper lip. [00:20:49] For example, maintaining composure at funerals. [00:20:51] It's not just about self-control, it's also about making other people, not making other people uncomfortable. [00:20:55] And this one replies, I do enjoy the Anglo-cultural norm of greeting people with how are you? And both inevitably responding good, even though they're doing poorly. [00:21:02] It's essentially just a quick ritual to establish the person has their S together enough not to let their personal problems bother you. [00:21:08] So it just struck me that like that's really the essence of it. [00:21:10] To the Anglo mind, especially the English version of the Anglo-Mind, this is like, what? [00:21:15] You've posted this and it's very like, just like, we would never do it. [00:21:18] It's an American evangelical thing. [00:21:19] Well, I mean, even talking about religion or politics outside of obviously this job, you've got to sort of waterboard it out of me. [00:21:25] Like when I'm meeting with friends or family, I'm just like, yeah, this is just going to cause problems. [00:21:31] Even if we're mostly in agreement, you know, people aren't normally reasonable when you talk about these things because they matter so much to them. [00:21:38] And I still don't know who my parents have ever voted for, which is that's the old ways. [00:21:42] That's crazy, that is. [00:21:42] Yeah, yeah. [00:21:43] Because it wasn't the case, particularly in my household, but not far off. [00:21:47] But in a lot of households in Britain, particularly at the table, you don't talk religion or politics. [00:21:53] It's just impolite. [00:21:56] Like to say to someone, especially if you don't know them very, very well, just to say, what are you going to vote? [00:22:01] Or what did you vote last time? [00:22:02] That's like really rude. [00:22:03] It's a rude thing to do. [00:22:05] I didn't know how my parents voted until I was already old enough to vote myself. [00:22:08] And now these days they call me up and say, who should we vote for? [00:22:11] Yeah, yeah. [00:22:11] I talked about politics now a bit because I sort of told them about woke stuff before they knew about it because I was in the comedy world. [00:22:17] But yeah, I never talk about politics with my brother because it would just be a blazing row immediately, especially Trump used to be the thing. [00:22:23] But you can imagine how that went. [00:22:25] So this was quite an interesting take. [00:22:27] God can save sinners and redeem their broken past. [00:22:29] You'll not find me making fun of these two in their marriage in any way, like Beau said. [00:22:32] But with that said, this post is striking nerve because it comes in the context of a deeply broken social contract, including and especially in the church where young men are expected to tolerate infinite bad behavior from young women, even as older men and older women refuse to hold them accountable. [00:22:44] So, and then he says that if the evangelical church in our day did not have a reputation for effeminacy and refusing to acknowledge the sins of women, many of which are actively destroying our civilization, perhaps our presentation of the gospel to the culture would be taken more seriously. [00:22:56] I quite like this framing, actually. [00:22:58] It scratches the right itch for me in that it accepts the fact that they're happy, which is good. [00:23:05] I want people to be happy. [00:23:06] I want people to find one another and live a fulfilling life. [00:23:10] But at the same time, we shouldn't pretend that doing bad things is just, well, you know, you've said sorry, therefore it's fine. [00:23:17] Especially if it's only one way and it's only letting off women. [00:23:20] Exactly. [00:23:20] Yeah. [00:23:21] I feel like there is the question of, can you ever truly be forgiven? [00:23:25] Not just talking about in the eyes of Jesus. [00:23:29] In the eyes of the other person. [00:23:30] Yeah, well, the rest of the world. [00:23:32] So in my opinion, unless it's really, really, really bad, yeah, mostly. [00:23:38] Like for example, say you did uh a number of uh uh something terrible like murders or rapes or something and you went to prison for 30 years and you came out and you paid your debt to society. [00:23:49] I'm still not going to forgive you. [00:23:51] I'll still I'll still look at you like I don't really want anything to do with you, bro, sort of thing. [00:23:56] But if it's someone's just really promiscuous and they seem to have changed their ways and they act that out every day for the rest of their life, genuinely, then fine, for me. [00:24:05] I think there's a difference between like doing something that really damages other people and something that's more limited to harming yourself. [00:24:14] Like if someone like caused a car accident that killed a child, I'd never forgive that person. [00:24:18] Whereas if they just drank a little bit too much alcohol when they were younger and maybe you know upset a few people but then got their life together, I think that's forgivable. [00:24:30] There's a sort of scale here, isn't there, of things. [00:24:33] And I think that the smaller things you if you get too hung up on them, they'll cause problems for you if you don't forgive people. [00:24:41] Whereas there has to be some things that are unforgivable as a society. [00:24:44] There's also forgiveness of the soul versus what that means in reality on the ground. [00:24:49] I mean you can forgive, for example, if a murderer repents, you can accept that as a Christian, but still invoke the death penalty and say, it's good that they've repented because that's for their soul, but we're still going to use the state to put them to death. [00:25:02] This is a completely consistent position argued by many Christians. [00:25:05] So, you know, there's that as well. [00:25:06] That's true. [00:25:07] I'm worried I'm going over time. [00:25:08] There's loads, but I'll just give you a few. [00:25:10] This person agreed. [00:25:10] Most people think evangelical dean ever. [00:25:12] Most people think evangelicalism is conservative. [00:25:15] But in fact, large swathes are radically anti-traditionalist and in their way liberal. [00:25:19] And he's claiming that many evangelicals see traditional social virtues like modesty, propriety and prudence as hindrances to the practice and proclamation of the gospel and therefore congratulate themselves on violating these norms and in their minds, if in their minds doing so brings glory to God. [00:25:34] So yeah, for some of that this is immodest, but for some it's like, oh no, the fact that we're even doing this shows how Christian we are. [00:25:41] But it's obviously American evangelicalism, I think, and stuff we wouldn't really do. [00:25:46] Well, there is the classic loophole that people have noticed for centuries, that if Christianity forgives, can forgive everything, then it's sort of, you can look at it a certain way. [00:26:01] It's like, well, I can do anything, anything. [00:26:03] And as long as I repent, like one second before my death, as long as the priest says you're forgiven. [00:26:09] Yeah, I don't think it works like that. [00:26:10] I'm not an advocate. [00:26:10] Oh, no, it doesn't, does it? [00:26:11] But I'm saying that. [00:26:13] People can argue that for themselves. [00:26:15] Because if you did it, knowing it was sin. [00:26:18] I'm not good enough on the theology to counter it though. [00:26:22] Or knowing that you can buy, you can, in the medieval period anyway, you could sort of buy absolution. [00:26:29] I can do anything. [00:26:30] And as long as I give the church the right amount of money, and even maybe the pontiff himself forgives me, then I can do anything while I'm alive, as long as that comes through just before I die. [00:26:43] Yeah, that's one take. [00:26:44] It's a loophole, isn't it? [00:26:46] Yeah. [00:26:47] I don't want to do too long. [00:26:48] I'll try and go quickly through them. [00:26:49] This one is just Pat Sturdman, that guy who was unfortunately jailed for January 6th. [00:26:54] These formerly promiscuous women are not being shamed for their sexual past, but their present pride. [00:26:58] So his argument was it's not that you're going on about it now and showing it off to people. [00:27:02] Seemed reasonable. [00:27:04] This one is saying just, yeah, it's not cool, bro. [00:27:08] You've grown up as a homeschooled Christian, so you don't realize you shouldn't post this. [00:27:11] This one's funny. [00:27:12] Tristan Tate, you know, when you've never driven a car before and then you scrape money together for an old, crappy vehicle, but you think it's in pretty good condition because you've never driven another car. [00:27:21] I remember that feeling. [00:27:22] Mine was a VW golf and the engine didn't even fire from one of cylinders. [00:27:26] The salesman told me it had been reworked and was good as new. [00:27:28] I didn't know it wasn't. [00:27:29] I had no point of reference. [00:27:30] Now this isn't about the physical driving sensation. [00:27:32] That was enjoyable enough despite the wear and tear. [00:27:34] But the reliability and soul of the vehicle were expended. [00:27:37] Went through numerous breakdowns. [00:27:38] One day you'll think back on this analogy. [00:27:40] Nonetheless, I wish you both well. [00:27:43] I'm calling your wife a clapped-out car that doesn't really work and is rubbish. [00:27:47] But you took it very gracefully. [00:27:48] You said, Tristan, I appreciate you sharing this and your gentleness in this response to while Jesus' mercy certainly grants forgiveness of all sin, past sin often has negative effects on the present. [00:27:56] But even those challenges are all for our good. [00:27:58] God bless you. [00:27:59] He took that quite well, essentially. [00:28:00] Seems like a quite wholesome guy, actually. [00:28:02] Yeah, yeah. [00:28:02] Like, he's a good sport at least. [00:28:04] Tristan, at length, there called his wife a rubbish first car that you only think's good because you've not driven a good one. [00:28:10] I mean, I mean, maybe I'm just a product of the degenerate late 20th century, early 21st century, but I do think that it's not necessarily the greatest thing to stay a virgin for too long and marry the first person that you think you love because exactly that, because you've got no frame of reference. [00:28:32] That actually is a real thing. [00:28:33] Like, you need to fail a bit, including in relationships, before you know what you've got, before you've got a frame of reference. [00:28:41] I think ideally everyone would do it, but we're not in the ideal world. [00:28:43] Like, for example, when Fuentes said that when Piers Morgan was on Fuentes, he's like, What? [00:28:46] You got laid? [00:28:47] I was like, Yeah, I'm a Catholic like you're supposed to be. [00:28:50] You know, and Morgan looks ridiculous because Fuentes was actually living it out. [00:28:53] For me, it's a little bit of a difference if your wife was promiscuous. [00:28:56] If they were both virgins, I just think that's like the old ways. [00:28:58] That's how it should be. [00:28:59] My ideal world. [00:29:01] But her being promiscuous, that does change it. [00:29:04] And especially weirder than the man being promiscuous, if we're really honest. [00:29:07] Yeah, well, it's less unusual for men to be that way because that's how our biology primes us, unfortunately. [00:29:14] It's no excuse for it, necessarily, but it's acknowledging a reality. [00:29:18] Yeah, if I are the two, both virgins is one thing. [00:29:20] Man was promiscuous, would be the second choice. [00:29:22] This one is the third choice, definitely, if I had to choose. [00:29:26] Now he just basically doubled down and he's he dealt with all these criticisms and he said, Look, this was already public. [00:29:32] You know, he's just like totally owning it and doubling down, to be fair. [00:29:36] This person said the classic my wife already said she was a whole years ago defense. [00:29:40] But then he said he's stunned and grateful by the overwhelming reach of my wife and I's story. [00:29:44] He just completely got like, thanks for the feedback, guys. [00:29:48] You know, so to be fair, he's sort of just owning it. [00:29:50] There must be something cathartic as well. [00:29:52] As bad, I wouldn't share my dirty long tree in public. [00:29:55] I wouldn't advise anyone else to. [00:29:57] But if you are going to do that, I'm sure there is something cathartic about it. [00:30:02] Right? [00:30:02] It's something that most people wouldn't want the rest of the world to know. [00:30:05] Now I've done it. [00:30:06] It actually is a weight off. [00:30:08] That's the main reason. [00:30:09] Can you do it though? [00:30:10] The reason I don't do it is more that it's impolite to other people than anything. [00:30:13] I'm an open book, but I don't want to impose things on other people that they might not want. [00:30:21] This is actually quite a wholesome example from Hoff here. [00:30:24] My wife and I were both virgins before our wedding. [00:30:26] We've stayed faithful over 20 years of marriage, and she's birthed our four children and still looks like a fitness model thanks to excellent dietary and exercise habits. [00:30:32] And this is possible for you too, young man. [00:30:34] So that's more the ideal, maybe. [00:30:36] That's certainly another version of it. [00:30:37] Very wholesome. [00:30:38] Very wholesome judgment. [00:30:39] Ultimately, no matter what you say, though, about this guy, Twitter has spoken. [00:30:42] You're accused of cringe behavior, and the court finds you not based and sentences you to be made fun of. [00:30:47] So that is what's happened. [00:30:48] But, you know, he's owned it and he's made his case. [00:30:51] So God bless him. [00:30:52] So yeah, just thought that was interesting and very different from slavery, which we'll talk about next. [00:30:58] If they stay together for 40 years and are happy, incredible problem, is it? [00:31:02] It's no problem. [00:31:03] Good on him. [00:31:04] Would you like to read some comments, Nick? [00:31:06] From these live ones. [00:31:08] Rumble ones. [00:31:08] You'll never find these properly, but yeah. [00:31:12] I don't want to read this one. [00:31:13] Sal one's mean, yeah, danger. [00:31:14] Sigil stone stone bad. [00:31:16] Does Nick know she's a bleep by personal experience? [00:31:18] How dare how very dare you? [00:31:20] I mean, I was in the comedy industry, but you know, keep it clean. [00:31:24] Another fun and informative episode of the Bodade experience. [00:31:27] Is the live show going to become more and more regular? [00:31:30] What's that got to do with that? [00:31:31] Is that the reference? [00:31:32] I know, I just joked once or twice that Lotus Eaters is just the Bodeid experience. [00:31:36] I see. [00:31:37] Carlos Lovell. [00:31:39] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:31:40] Carl's favourite joke. [00:31:42] Are you trying to move me up here, Josh? [00:31:44] That was Samson, didn't that? [00:31:45] That's a random name. [00:31:46] Speaking of the live event, there will be an arm wrestling. [00:31:49] There will be an arm wrestling. [00:31:50] Oh, there will be arm wrestling, will there? [00:31:52] But we're already chicken out. [00:31:53] Will the rest of you all chicken out as well? [00:31:54] Oh, really? [00:31:55] I don't know if there are arm wrestling. [00:31:56] No, it's a joke. [00:31:57] Again, on some secret chat somewhere, they said, someone said, will you arm wrestle me? [00:32:02] Oh, no, that was it. [00:32:02] It was on state of politics. [00:32:04] State of politics. [00:32:05] They said, will you arm wrestle me? [00:32:07] And I said, no, I'm old and don't do arm wrestling. [00:32:10] No, thanks. [00:32:11] But Nate is actually strong. [00:32:12] Maybe he will. [00:32:14] They obviously saw that and it's a reference to that. [00:32:16] I will arm wrestle any woman. [00:32:18] I found that even with my weaker hand. [00:32:20] I let them get an advantage. [00:32:21] And I could come back. [00:32:22] It's like, of course, if you lost to a woman, then it's high stakes. [00:32:27] What else? [00:32:28] The reason. [00:32:29] Casa Duan, sure. [00:32:31] The reason people are peed off by this depravity is that once again, it's promiscuous woman having a cake and eating it too. [00:32:35] No consequences, no accountability. [00:32:37] Men always have to accommodate. [00:32:38] Fair point. [00:32:39] That is a fair point. [00:32:40] Fair point. [00:32:41] Sigil Stone, forgiveness, and all that. [00:32:42] Okay, fine. [00:32:43] But the real issue is he posted all this in the first place to hold his piety over others to say I'm more righteous than thou and he was judged for it. [00:32:49] Maybe. [00:32:50] Yeah, there is a certain amount of pride there, and it's a weird thing to be proud of. [00:32:53] It says, difference between male and female promiscuity. [00:32:55] Is there an echo chamber in here? [00:32:59] Don't tell me, don't get that actually. [00:33:01] I don't quite understand. [00:33:03] I don't want to come across as depraved in any way. [00:33:07] But I wouldn't necessarily want a wife that's a virgin. [00:33:10] It's like anything else. [00:33:11] Sex is like anything else, isn't it? [00:33:13] Like riding a bike. [00:33:13] It's a bit of an art, a bit of a skill to it. [00:33:15] If you want someone who's never done it before, never. [00:33:19] I mean, that's not, I don't necessarily want someone that's got an insanely long body count. [00:33:24] That's not good either. [00:33:25] You want the sweet spot, the Goldilocks? [00:33:26] Yeah, like, do you want... [00:33:28] It's a fair point. [00:33:29] A virgin isn't ideal. === Insulting Historical Records (16:13) === [00:33:31] Some of us play. [00:33:32] It's not going to be. [00:33:33] I'm not sure I should say this, but this is paywall, don't it? [00:33:35] Some of the things I'm sort of both, like, because I was in the comedy world, you could basically stand on the stage, do a good gig, and then you could go out with a girl that night, and you could get much hotter girls than you deserved. [00:33:44] And sometimes I think I didn't maximize that enough. [00:33:46] Then other times I think, actually, some of the stuff even that I did, limited stuff, it's a bit weird. [00:33:51] Like some of the stuff girls want you to do now, don't you ever think it's a bit the modern world. [00:33:59] I shouldn't have started a set by myself. [00:34:03] The modern world is just depraved, is what I'm agreeing with you. [00:34:07] I'm going the opposite of your point. [00:34:08] You're saying, do you want a virgin? [00:34:10] But do you also want like a cool? [00:34:13] Samson is telling us to wrap up here. [00:34:15] All right, we've overran by 15 minutes. [00:34:17] Oh, sorry. [00:34:18] That's all right. [00:34:18] So my second beef relative, mine doesn't need to be too quick. [00:34:22] It's fine. [00:34:22] Sorry about that. [00:34:23] So most people think that slavery reparations peaked in the sort of Black Lives Matter era of maybe 2020, 2021. [00:34:30] And all of these discussions, you know, it was front and center in the media. [00:34:35] But actually, a different strategy has been put forward now. [00:34:38] Black Lives Matter has been basically exposed as an operation to grift money from people. [00:34:43] We had cases in both Britain and the United States of, you know, in the US, they were buying mansions and throwing parties for themselves. [00:34:50] In the UK, there are instances of people using it to buy themselves clothes and Ubers and all sorts of things. [00:34:56] And so I think the thing petered out as well as, you know, people moved on to the next thing. [00:35:02] And unfortunately, a different strategy has emerged, which is using things, extra governmental organizations like the UN. [00:35:11] And when I saw this, I thought it was insane that the UN has voted to recognize the enslavement of Africans in the transatlantic slave trade in particular as the gravest crime against humanity. [00:35:25] So worse than every genocide in human history. [00:35:28] It's a bit strong, isn't it? [00:35:30] Barbary pirates enslaving my ancestors in Devon and Cornwall. [00:35:34] That's just okay. [00:35:35] That's fine. [00:35:35] We're allowed to do that now, apparently. [00:35:39] But God forbid, the transatlantic slave trade happened. [00:35:42] The gravest crime against humanity. [00:35:45] Holodomor. [00:35:46] I mean, great famine. [00:35:47] Cool it with the anti-Semitic remark. [00:35:49] I also thought that. [00:35:50] I didn't want to go. [00:35:52] Football always go there. [00:35:53] I mean, in history, there are loads more worse crimes than the Atlantic slave trade. [00:35:59] Yeah. [00:36:00] Many, many more. [00:36:01] It's just insulting to people's history, to be honest. [00:36:05] And the UN actually wrote up about this. [00:36:08] And what I found interesting was this. [00:36:12] Where is it? [00:36:15] Boring description of the slave trade. [00:36:17] I think it's down here. [00:36:18] The resolution emphasized the trafficking of enslaved Africans and racialized chattel enslavement of Africans as the gravest crime against humanity by reason of the definitive break in world history. [00:36:31] Scale. [00:36:32] Oh, there, here we go. [00:36:35] Scale duration, systematic nature, brutality, and enduring consequences that continue to structure the lives of all people through racialized regimes of labor, property, and capital, which is the biggest load of nonsense I think I've ever read. [00:36:48] It's like, I'm sorry, but you can't carry on blaming your inability to run a functioning state on the fact that there was slavery in your history. [00:36:57] Slavery, which, by the way, you know, we just turned up and bought them. [00:37:01] It was other Africans enslaving each other. [00:37:03] We didn't go out and capture them with nets, like in roots, as they tried to portray there, like some sort of big game hunt. [00:37:10] No, it was a staple of West African culture that they just enslaved their neighbours. [00:37:16] And were they not to enslave them, they would have, as we've got historic accounts both from themselves and Westerners going there for the first time, that they would either ritualistically sacrifice people. [00:37:29] There was rivers of blood flowing through Benin, as accounts suggest, en masse, 80,000 people a year sometimes, as well as cannibalize them. [00:37:40] So it's not like they were living in a utopia beforehand. [00:37:44] And it's not like we turned up and were just like, yeah, we want slaves. [00:37:47] And they're like, oh, what's a slave? [00:37:48] We don't know. [00:37:49] No, they were already doing this. [00:37:51] It was part of their culture. [00:37:52] And as the king of Benin said, when we were abolishing slavery, that his entire kingdom, his entire culture depends on the slave trade. [00:38:01] And if they remove it, that's his main means of maintaining his power. [00:38:09] And if we were to look at a list of modern day slavery, I'll be getting to it. [00:38:16] Oh, all right, all right, sorry, all right, fine. [00:38:18] So it's worth looking at who actually voted in favor and who abstained. [00:38:23] So basically, the Third World and some token countries voted in favour of it. [00:38:30] Most of the developed world abstained. [00:38:33] And the only people that voted against it were Argentina, Israel, and the United States, which I was quite surprised at those countries. [00:38:42] The United States, perhaps, I could understand. [00:38:44] But Israel and Argentina, I don't know of their participation in the slave trade. [00:38:48] So I don't know why they'd vote against it, but I'm sort of glad they did, I suppose. [00:38:53] But it's interesting that lots of European countries here didn't actually decide to vote against it, but lots of them did. [00:38:59] Even Japan abstained. [00:39:01] So it's sort of like, well, we don't want to look that bad by saying, actually, no, we think the slave trade is good. [00:39:08] But at the same time, we're not voting in favour of it. [00:39:11] So I would have liked to have seen a bit more pushback from countries on this. [00:39:16] I would have said, listen, this is obviously just an effort for shameless grifting for money, you know, continent of beggars and the like. [00:39:25] Stop doing that, otherwise there'll be consequences. [00:39:28] But unfortunately, I'm not the Prime Minister of Britain. [00:39:31] Another thing, I wonder what the vote would have looked like had it been not the transatlantic slave trade, but the dozens and dozens of other slave trades that there's been through history. [00:39:42] You know, you mentioned the Barbary pirates earlier. [00:39:44] What about Ottoman slavery? [00:39:46] What about that? [00:39:48] It's horrific. [00:39:49] Arabian slavery. [00:39:51] Yeah, I'm going to pull up an article at the end where I talk about that when Lenny Henry was demanding reparations and talking about how actually the historical record is pretty settled that the Arab slave trade went on for longer and was more destructive. [00:40:05] It went on to the 19th century. [00:40:08] So, you know. [00:40:09] Yeah, no, the 20th century. [00:40:10] 20th century, even if Faisal, King Faisal, went to the Versailles peace treaty in 1919 with a sub-Saharan African slave. [00:40:24] By me. [00:40:24] I think Arabia didn't formally ban it until I think, like the 1960s or something. [00:40:30] It's the usual high status beliefs, isn't it? [00:40:33] Totally inconsistent. [00:40:34] It's like how people like Stella Creasy can be in favour of mass Islamic prayer in Trafalgar Square, but doesn't want an old woman to be able to silently pray outside an abortion clinic or all these people that think the hijab is like empowerment here, but oppression in Iran or something. [00:40:49] It's all these kind of nonsense luxury beliefs. [00:40:51] One of them is that this is the worst kind of slave because this is the one we all know about that's on the telly, but the other ones you'd only think about and talk about. [00:40:58] Well, how far back do you want to go? [00:41:00] Is there a statute of limitations on this? [00:41:03] If you look at the medieval world or the ancient world, about Roman slavery, ancient Greek slavery, Persian slavery, the Anglo-Saxons was a slaving society. [00:41:13] About one in ten of people in Anglo-Saxon society was a slave. [00:41:17] Was the transatlantic slave trade worse than the Mongol invasion? [00:41:21] Good question. [00:41:22] Very good question. [00:41:23] The big point is that we ended it. [00:41:24] That's the big thing we should focus on. [00:41:25] We ended it. [00:41:26] We're the only ones that are nice to animals. [00:41:28] You know, we're just the best people. [00:41:31] Yeah, that's my turn. [00:41:32] Do we get credit for the abolitionist movement? [00:41:35] Yeah. [00:41:35] Any credit? [00:41:36] I doubt it. [00:41:37] It means we're also going to get money out of us. [00:41:39] The US response, actually, I was quite pleasantly surprised by. [00:41:46] So the ambassador Dan Negria, I think it is, the US representative to the UN Economic and Social Council, said prior to the vote he regretted that Washington must once again remind this body that the United Nations exists to maintain international peace and security and was not founded to advance narrow specific interests and agendas to establish niche international days or create new costly meetings and reporting mandates. [00:42:10] Furthermore, the US does not recognise a legal right to reparations for historical wrongs that were not illegal under international law at the time they occurred. [00:42:20] Seems perfectly reasonable thing to say, doesn't it? [00:42:22] Exactly, yes. [00:42:24] And Britain's response was similar, but a little bit more sympathetic to the motion, I suppose. [00:42:34] And it, where are we? [00:42:37] Okay. [00:42:38] The UK continues to disagree with fundamental propositions of the text and therefore regrettably cannot vote in favour of it, regrettably. [00:42:46] Interesting use of that word. [00:42:48] First, the UK is firmly of the view that we must not create a hierarchy of historical atrocities. [00:42:53] That's a good point. [00:42:54] Doing so simplifies the complexity and vast scale of suffering endured in the different contexts. [00:42:59] It risks diminishing the experiences of communities whose trauma and suffering was felt just as strongly. [00:43:04] This is sort of couched in woke language, actually. [00:43:07] I kind of am a bit grossed out of it, even though the point they're making is reasonable. [00:43:11] No single set of atrocities should be regarded as more or less significant than another. [00:43:15] We should approach all historical injustices with the same seriousness, empathy, and respect to ensure that no one group is made to feel that their suffering is being overshadowed or treated as secondary. [00:43:25] Furthermore, it is essential and integral to the rule of law that the formation and evolution of international law is governed by clear and well-defined principles. [00:43:33] The principles of intemporality and non-retroactivity are long-standing tenets of international law, meaning that you can't apply laws in the past. [00:43:46] If it wasn't a crime, then you can't pursue these sorts of things, which, you know, if you did that, the entire world would break down, right? [00:43:53] The government currently is doing it over veterans, but that's another story. [00:43:56] Yes, that is true. [00:43:58] So that's a very, very long-standing thing. [00:44:00] Going back centuries and centuries, I mean. [00:44:03] Because otherwise, couldn't the modern-day Iranians claim reparations from modern-day Greece for the campaigns and jeversides of Alexander the Great, say, 300 years before Christ? [00:44:15] Why not? [00:44:16] Yeah, well, Douglas Murray always used to say, when is Turkey paying reparations for the Ottoman Empire was one of his good lines. [00:44:22] Yeah, right. [00:44:22] Give back Constantinople at the very least. [00:44:25] I mean, Timur, Timur the lame, was responsible for one of the greatest massacres of humanity ever. [00:44:33] Where are the reparations for the people of Central and Near Asia for that? [00:44:37] Is that what they call them the lame? [00:44:38] Because it was like totally lame. [00:44:41] Sorry. [00:44:41] So sorry. [00:44:42] Here of all week, I'm not. [00:44:43] Fridays so it carries on to oh sorry No, that's it. [00:44:47] Don't my joke. [00:44:49] It carries on to saying they're essential to ensuring legal stability. [00:44:52] According to the intertemporal rule, the applicable law is the law of the relevant time. [00:44:57] International courts and tribunals have routinely upheld these principles. [00:45:01] There is equally no duty to provide reparations for historical acts that were not, at the time of those acts were committed, violations of international law. [00:45:09] These principles cannot be circumvented by recourse to the concept of continuing harms. [00:45:14] I find that incredibly brazen when they're at this moment the government pursuing people for what they did in Ireland, which was legal at the time, gone. [00:45:22] No, no. [00:45:23] I was just going to say that highlighting the legal principles here, I think, is quite a safe way of pushing back against it and avoiding the reparations thing. [00:45:32] Also, they are right that it is an unprecedented demand. [00:45:36] I would go a bit further and say, to be honest, our intervention in West Africa is probably a better thing than not. [00:45:45] And that many of the people who were enslaved faced horrific conditions in Africa. [00:45:52] And at least they had the potential, once surviving the difficult journey across the Atlantic, to have a roof over their head, food, and things that many people at the time might not have had. [00:46:03] And you've got to be a bit more pragmatic about it than that. [00:46:06] But people don't want to get into the difficult conversation and the weeds of that, even though I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to talk about that perhaps their fate in Africa would have been a lot worse as a slave. [00:46:18] It's obviously an exercise not in the historical realities of the thing, but in an exercise in moral browbeating us. [00:46:31] Absolutely, to try and get Gibbs about the reality of history. [00:46:36] No, I was going to say, do you actually believe the UK is firmly the view that we must not create a hierarchy of historical atrocities? [00:46:41] I mean, don't we just assume, can we say Holocaust on YouTube? [00:46:44] Don't we just assume that is the worst? [00:46:46] Even though our entire history is defined by World War II, it's like we won, etc. [00:46:50] And even then, we still have to have monuments to it in Britain, which I always find bizarre. [00:46:54] But don't you think Kirstam or someone if pressed would say, yeah, that was the worst? [00:46:58] Don't you think that's kind of how our whole ideology operates? [00:47:01] And I'm not making a judgment on that. [00:47:02] I'm just saying, I don't believe that they don't do that. [00:47:04] It's part of the post-war consensus, isn't it? [00:47:06] That it's the uniquely worst thing. [00:47:09] Yeah, so I think we do create this hierarchy. [00:47:12] I think people innately create hierarchies regardless, and you can't avoid it. [00:47:16] But at the same time, you don't want legal bodies, especially the UN, doing this sort of thing. [00:47:21] So I agree with it on that side of things. [00:47:24] As an individual, I think you can have opinions about something being worse than another thing. [00:47:28] But when it comes to law, I don't think it's the place. [00:47:32] How do you measure it, though? [00:47:33] Just purely in human misery, just the pure numbers of people killed? [00:47:38] Perhaps, I don't know, it's an entire debate, isn't it? [00:47:41] Yeah. [00:47:41] Because again, if you go by that, then the campaigns of Timur are probably the worst thing ever. [00:47:47] That's not on anyone's agenda, is it? [00:47:49] Yeah, well, it's like how people will bang on about Israel and Palestine all the time. [00:47:53] But I'm just like, well, what about the annexation of West Papua by Indonesia? [00:47:57] No one cares about that. [00:47:59] You know, I don't think most people even know that that's going on, but it is. [00:48:04] But people selectively care about certain things, don't they? [00:48:07] Sometimes not even in relation to how it affects their life. [00:48:11] But this is part of another growing movement. [00:48:14] This was all the way back in August of 23, where a UN judge said that the UK owed 18 trillion in slavery debt. [00:48:22] And I can't possibly see a reason why he might allege this. [00:48:28] It's like a nice guy, it looks like for a reasonable chap. [00:48:31] Just demanding a very, very large portion of the UK economy. [00:48:35] Well, 18 trillion, that's an absurd number. [00:48:38] And he says that it's underselling it as well. [00:48:40] I think there's something like, I might get these numbers slightly wrong, but I think there's only something like 30 odd trillion in the entire world. [00:48:48] Something like that. [00:48:48] I think in that ballpark anyway, roughly. [00:48:50] So 18 trillion. [00:48:53] It's like an Alex Jones court case number. [00:48:55] It's just like realistic. [00:48:57] And even if somehow, just imagine somehow we paid up with that. [00:49:00] That wouldn't be the end of it. [00:49:02] They wouldn't say, oh, we're able to. [00:49:04] Well, no, it's like, well, you have to take them back then, I guess, because we can't afford to pay for that. [00:49:09] What else do you mean? [00:49:10] Did you see that stat the other day that we're paying 33 billion in welfare, but only make 31 billion from taxation? [00:49:18] It's depressing. [00:49:19] We can't afford anything. [00:49:20] We can barely afford the repayment, the interest repayments on our debts. [00:49:25] Let alone any more expenditures. [00:49:28] So it's to the point where the Caribbean jumped on this number. [00:49:34] What about if we agreed to pay the debt, but we have to bring back slavery to fund them? [00:49:38] That's the only way we could. [00:49:40] We would have to sell ourselves into slavery to be able to pay it off, debt slavery. === Debating Reparations (11:06) === [00:49:44] The Caribbeans have been, or some of the Caribbean nations, have been trying to pursue slavery reparations, even though you get to live in a nice part of the world where we all want to go on holiday. [00:49:56] But yes, it's obviously just a grift. [00:50:00] It's ridiculous. [00:50:01] Like, should the Haitians get reparations the same as, you know, I don't know, Jamaica or somewhere like that? [00:50:07] Like, how do you work it out? [00:50:08] I mean, the Haitians killed everyone. [00:50:11] So do they deserve less reparations? [00:50:12] Because they've sort of had some already? [00:50:15] How would you even work it out? [00:50:16] But there are entire organizations that exist, like this one, CARICOM, which is set up to pursue reparations for the Caribbean for slavery. [00:50:27] Which I just think we shouldn't be accepting this. [00:50:31] It's sort of like if a beggar reaches into your pocket to steal your wallet, you don't say, oh, I'm really regretting the fact that you need the money, but I'm afraid that that goes against my property rights. [00:50:43] You slap the hand away and tell them to get lost or else. [00:50:47] That's the way I see it. [00:50:48] One thing I've just remembered is that at the height of transatlantic slavery, a cotton worker in Lancashire, which is where half my family are from and what they did, had a lower life expectancy. [00:50:59] All I'm saying is, where are my reparations? [00:51:01] reparations for the north also why should my family i say hi well it's like I'm very tired. [00:51:06] I get that right. [00:51:06] Lower life expectancy in Lancashire. [00:51:09] Why should my family in rural Scotland that never owned a slave never benefited from it? [00:51:13] And in fact, the country doesn't benefit from slavery. [00:51:16] The people who perhaps traded in slaves and made profit from it benefited. [00:51:21] But relative to the rest of the economy, they would have had more purchasing power. [00:51:24] They would have pushed the price of goods up for people who didn't participate in it. [00:51:28] So actually the cost, yeah, the cost of living would have gone up by people becoming rich off of it relative to the population that didn't engage in it. [00:51:36] So actually, people would have been poorer as well as the suppressed wages. [00:51:41] I'd love to hear you make that argument on question time. [00:51:43] You never hear the inflationary slavery affecting the little guy argument. [00:51:48] Well, yeah, it's like in ancient Rome, isn't it? [00:51:51] How slavery was a massive problem for them because it meant that people didn't really have farmland and the ability to work, wages were low, and it was a big social problem. [00:52:02] People forget that. [00:52:03] There's a whole number of reasons why slavery isn't the most efficient way to run a society. [00:52:07] Lots and lots of ways. [00:52:08] Of course, you get all the labor for free, but then you've actually got to feed and house them. [00:52:16] It's not efficient, actually. [00:52:17] It's much, much more efficient commercially to pay someone a wage. [00:52:22] I suppose it's also worth mentioning, I don't agree with slavery on moral terms. [00:52:28] Just let's make that clear. [00:52:29] Yeah, I'm pushing it back against the reparations claims, but that's not to say that I think that slavery is all fine and dandy. [00:52:35] No, in the example of the late Republic, Roman Republic, 100, 150 odd years before Christ, that period, period of the Gracchai brothers, Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus, it was just that a very, very few people owned tons of slaves and made everyone else unemployed and disenfranchised and landless so that they could buy up all the land, put their slaves on it and just rake in insane profits. [00:53:01] Yeah, it sort of was destroying society in loads and loads of different ways. [00:53:05] So it doesn't even make sense to collectively blame Britain or other slave trading countries because comparatively people would have been worse off for the slave trade existing in, you know, if you're a poor working class person in Britain. [00:53:17] I don't know how my rural Scottish ancestors would have benefited from it. [00:53:22] You know, you know, in the highlands, there weren't any slaves around anyway. [00:53:27] But anyway, I would like to point out the fact that when you look, this was from April of last year. [00:53:35] White British respondents think we should not in a decent majority, whereas black British respondents think we should to a large majority. [00:53:44] But remember, they're just as British as you or me. [00:53:47] They have no ethnic allegiance to their homeland, despite this very glaring difference. [00:53:54] And actually, you go have put out one very recently here looking at whether people strongly support or strongly oppose. [00:54:01] All adults in Britain sort of aggregated, strongly oppose, is the main one by a significant margin. [00:54:09] But for white adults, it's the highest. [00:54:11] And then for ethnic minority adults, actually, strongly support is the highest one here. [00:54:17] So there's obviously a division. [00:54:19] And then you look at black adults, 51% strongly support. [00:54:23] But they also think that it's going to be them being the beneficiaries of it rather than them also being raked in to pay the money because everyone in Britain is collectively blamed. [00:54:35] So one thing I did want to do is I wrote an article all the way back in October of last year about Lenny Henry's demands and I had a big old breakdown of all of the stupid arguments that exist for the transatlantic slave trade being particularly the worst. [00:54:53] And I'm not to say it was good, but as I point out here, curiously, none of the loudest voices calling for reparations ever mentioned the Arab slave trade, which predated and outlasted the transatlantic trade by centuries. [00:55:07] Millions of Africans were captured and transported across the Sahara and Indian Ocean, with some historians estimating the death toll to be higher than that of the transatlantic slave trade. [00:55:16] Yet there are no demands for reparations from the Middle East, no campaigns for apologies from the Arab states, no best-selling books calling for compensation from oil-rich Gulf nations. [00:55:26] The selective outrage suggests that the issue is less about justice and more about both ideology and extracting wealth. [00:55:31] Reparations are only demanded where there is perceived Western guilt to exploit. [00:55:35] And that's exactly it, in my opinion. [00:55:37] That they smell weakness. [00:55:38] They think they can squeeze money out of us. [00:55:40] And so that's why we're being targeted. [00:55:42] And there's no other reason for it, because why else would they be targeting the transatlantic slave trade and not all of the others? [00:55:49] And also, of course, there are open slave markets in Libya. [00:55:54] There was that famous video that emerged from 2017 of them selling black Africans for as little as a few hundred dollars. [00:56:03] It's much like the claim that we can't be indigenous. [00:56:06] It's a very simple oppressor-oppressed narrative. [00:56:09] We're always the oppressor, they're always the oppressed. [00:56:11] Thus, if we have people going back longer than the Maori, they're not indigenous because we're oppressors, so we can't be or something. [00:56:20] It's a great point about modern-day slavery. [00:56:22] If you just look at a list of the countries where modern-day slavery still exists. [00:56:26] Well, I've actually got another bit that will back up your point here. [00:56:29] Let's see your last link, no? [00:56:30] No, as in within this article. [00:56:32] Oh, okay. [00:56:33] So according to the Global Slavery Index, there are currently an estimated 50 million people trapped in forced labour or human trafficking around the world. [00:56:40] There are more slaves today than at any point in history, yet those calling for reparations seem uninterested in these living victims. [00:56:46] Theirs is not a campaign against slavery itself, but a campaign to monetise ancestral guilt. [00:56:51] The moral energy that could be directed towards ending real slavery is instead spent on imaginary debts and performative offence, which I stand by. [00:57:00] Yep, they don't care about the Uyghur Muslims. [00:57:01] They don't care about current slavery. [00:57:03] It's so annoying. [00:57:04] But as we've learned, you can't prove anything to these people with facts, can you? [00:57:09] Not interested in that. [00:57:10] Yeah. [00:57:11] Places like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, all the Middle East, loads of sub-Saharan Africa still buying and selling slaves. [00:57:21] Yeah, they're not interested in that. [00:57:23] I think you put it perfectly when you said it's just more about imaginary debts and performative offence. [00:57:30] Do you know what? [00:57:31] You could also cite the grooming gangs, couldn't you? [00:57:32] Which is essentially a kind of emerging, it's kind of a mass sex trafficking organisation, which is kind of bordering on slavery as well. [00:57:41] Yep. [00:57:41] Well, in Britain, when you find it, like in Leicester, a few years back, wasn't there? [00:57:45] They found loads of people. [00:57:47] They keep on finding Vietnamese people as slaves as well. [00:57:50] What were the racial, ethnic backgrounds of the people involved in that? [00:57:55] They weren't white. [00:57:56] Yeah. [00:57:57] Don't you often get more Middle Eastern people owning sub-Saharan or subcontinent people? [00:58:07] That's what you often get, don't you? [00:58:09] Very different attitudes than Western people, that's for sure. [00:58:13] But my point in bringing this up isn't to refute the slavery narrative for the millionth time. [00:58:18] It is to highlight the fact that rather than appealing to us within our own countries directly now, as they were before with Black Lives Matter and the like, countries are going via extragovernmental bodies like the UN, as they have for the past few years, and they're trying to increase pressure more and more through these bodies to make countries pay up. [00:58:38] And obviously, it's all about the money. [00:58:41] They don't actually care about the reason behind it. [00:58:43] Otherwise, they would be saying very different things. [00:58:48] I'm going to quickly whiz through these because I'm aware I have gone over time as well. [00:58:53] I can't see the mouse. [00:58:54] Where is it? [00:58:56] Gone the wrong way. [00:58:56] Here we go. [00:58:57] Okay, so Ochi Dor says, who will bring up the similar hypocrisy of Hassan and Cuba? [00:59:05] Yeah, rich guy going to Cuba, just flaunting his wealth, sharing it off, also talking about how it's caused by US sanctions rather than their own policies. [00:59:15] Yeah, it was a stat that is what is it would take the average Cuban nine years to buy his glasses. [00:59:21] Nine years. [00:59:22] I don't know where Hassan found the time with all the dog talk tree and he's got on his plate. [00:59:27] Yeah. [00:59:29] I mean he is Turkish. [00:59:30] They hate dogs, don't they? [00:59:31] Do these people hear themselves? [00:59:33] African slavery was the worst crime in human history. [00:59:35] Now get on this boat. [00:59:36] We need to import you for GDP. [00:59:38] Yeah, we're like the uniquely evil state in the world, but also we have a right to live in your country for some reason. [00:59:47] 14 Barber, so there are Anglo-Saxons getting reparations from Norway and Denmark. [00:59:51] Do the Celts get money from the Angles and Morocco? [00:59:54] Slavery is horrendous, but I'm not sure asking for money is going to help. [00:59:58] I agree. [00:59:58] Yeah. [01:00:00] Bold Eagle says, so that means the UN is going to be condemning all African kingdoms, Islam, along with whites for enslaving Africans. [01:00:08] Then, right? [01:00:09] Right? [01:00:10] No, of course not. [01:00:11] It's a Pakistan body. [01:00:16] I don't know what Sigilstone's saying here. [01:00:18] It's a reference to something Bo said in the previous segment. [01:00:21] Okay. [01:00:23] Bo said is apparently claiming to say, I'd rather ride a well-used bicycle. [01:00:31] At least you know it's reliable, I guess. [01:00:32] A bit easier destination. [01:00:34] don't read into that um hewitt says uh difference between male and female promiscuity is oh we've already read that one Okay. [01:00:42] Sorry for holding you up, Bo. [01:00:43] All right, yeah, no worries. [01:00:45] No worries. [01:00:46] I'll just scroll down on the documents of my bit. [01:00:48] Okay. === Amphibious Assault Plans (15:47) === [01:00:51] We need to talk about the US Marine Corps storming the beaches of a very small island that no one's really heard of before. [01:00:58] I've heard of it because it was a battlefield free map once. [01:01:02] I've heard of it because Lord Miles has been there. [01:01:06] I was going to go on to say, and I'm not talking about World War II. [01:01:09] I'm not talking about 1944. [01:01:11] Not the Japanese war then. [01:01:13] Yeah, no. [01:01:14] So these are all my links, Samson. [01:01:16] Are they all there? [01:01:17] So you mentioned somewhere that it was a... [01:01:21] I've got a picture. [01:01:22] Samson showed me a picture of a game, Battlefield 3, is it? [01:01:26] That's right, yeah. [01:01:26] Back to fight on Karg Island. [01:01:29] So, alright, for anyone who might not know whatsoever what we're talking about, is that there's an island, Karg Island, just off the coast of Iran, right at the top of the Persian Gulf, where 90% of Iran's oil exports go from this one hub. [01:01:42] Because the Persian Gulf is actually really shallow, quite shallow. [01:01:45] And you can't really get a tanker right up to the coast of Iran, hardly anywhere. [01:01:50] So you need a deep water harbour. [01:01:53] And there's this little island, Karg Island, which is really small. [01:01:55] It's only like seven, eight miles long. [01:01:57] It's like 20 odd square kilometers. [01:01:59] It's like half the size of Manhattan. [01:02:01] Small rock in the sea, really. [01:02:03] But it's got deep water harbours where you can get tankers alongside. [01:02:07] 90% of Iran's crude goes out from there. [01:02:11] Okay. [01:02:12] So we're in the middle of the oil war, aren't we? [01:02:15] It's the oil war. [01:02:18] And so where Iran has been attacking the oil infrastructure of the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Saudi, and so forth, Israel and the United States want to or are going, are screwing with Iran's ability to produce and export oil. [01:02:36] And so Karg Island is ground zero for that. [01:02:41] And about a week or two ago, America bombed it, bombed it quite heavily. [01:02:48] And now there's talk of boots on the ground on this island, on this little Karg Island. [01:02:55] It obviously hasn't happened yet, but it looks like, I think, and I'll make the argument in this segment, that it's probably going to happen. [01:03:04] So here's an article here from the Daily Mail, which actually talks about this morning on the Bo Show, Breakfast with Bo, 8am, Greenwich Mean Time. [01:03:13] Check it out. [01:03:14] Most base breakfast show around. [01:03:16] I talked about it a bit on there, so I won't go through this particular article too much, but it's an interesting one. [01:03:21] They say a bloody hellfire of missiles, rockets, and drones unleashed by fanatical defenders, Iranian fanatical defenders, they're talking about there. [01:03:29] One particular journalist warns of the trap that could await thousands of US troops invading Iranian oil hub. [01:03:37] Okay, so look, there's a there's an aerial view of it, and that the Marines, maybe 3,000 Marines backed up by another 2,000 Marines, big chunk of the 82nd Airborne Division may well parachute down onto the island and take it. [01:03:56] And what would the Iranians do to stop them? [01:04:00] I imagine it'll be highly contested because it's not going to be a surprise given their position that America is going to try and intervene on Israel. [01:04:10] And so I imagine that they're going to be quite dug in and quite prepared. [01:04:13] But of course, I wouldn't be surprised if the US has the firepower to deal with it at the same time. [01:04:22] So this is a segment really about military matters, a bit less political, although we will talk about a bit of the politics of it, but really just like the military reality of it. [01:04:30] So just on this map, there's the Straits of Hormuz there out into the Gulf of Aden, and this is the Persian Gulf. [01:04:36] And the islands right up there. [01:04:37] Like Kuwait's there, this is Iraq, obviously Iran, Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain, the UAE. [01:04:45] And there's Karg Island. [01:04:47] It's right up there. [01:04:49] So the best will in the world, if you wanted to get ships there, they've got to come through Ye oldie Straits of Hamuz, haven't they? [01:04:57] Which is a little bit contested, I believe. [01:05:00] A little bit. [01:05:01] A little bit. [01:05:05] So, so if it does go down, what's it going to be like? [01:05:10] And this is a picture. [01:05:11] I thought this is an interesting picture of the topography. [01:05:14] It's largely flat. [01:05:15] There is some hills there, but it's not like an insanely difficult bit of terrain. [01:05:22] Like they often say any sort of amphibious assault on, say, Taiwan for Mosa formerly. [01:05:29] Much, much bigger island, but that's actually technically difficult because of mountain ranges and things. [01:05:33] It's quite high out of the ocean, isn't it? [01:05:35] Yeah. [01:05:36] Whereas Karg Island isn't so much. [01:05:40] That also means that the US's air superiority will be quite helpful because, you know, if it's quite flat, it's easier for, you know. [01:05:49] Okay, so one of the first things to say, just to get into it then, is the almost complete air superiority other than missiles and drones. [01:05:55] Beyond that, you know, Iran hasn't got any air force to speak of anymore. [01:06:00] So in terms of fast jets, the US and the Israeli Irais have got complete air superiority for a start, which actually usually is more or less the whole ballgame. [01:06:10] It's one of the most important things in modern warfare, isn't it? [01:06:14] And to give them credit, the US Marines and airborne, and you can only imagine there'll probably other special forces like Navy SEALs or Rangers, airborne rangers, whatever, load of others. [01:06:28] They will be man for man better than any Iranians that are garrisoned on there. [01:06:35] Right? [01:06:36] If I was garrisoned on there right now, I'd be worried, put it that way. [01:06:38] I said that this morning. [01:06:39] That's putting it lightly. [01:06:40] Yeah, I think it's almost certain death if you're an Iranian on that island. [01:06:46] Because the Marines and paratroopers are looking to end you. [01:06:51] They're not particularly looking for mass surrenders, taking you prisoner. [01:06:56] There's a battle space that they need to dominate with extreme prejudice. [01:07:00] So I'm very much a layman on these matters, but they do retain the threat of hitting Qatar. [01:07:05] And once they hit the LNG, is it LPGO and LNG? [01:07:08] LNG. [01:07:09] Yeah, that screws all of Europe and it screws all the exports. [01:07:12] So they do have that. [01:07:13] And they've proved quite effective and they can ruin Dubai's tourist industry and all these kind of things. [01:07:17] So they do have some quite effective deterrence in that sense, right? [01:07:21] Yeah. [01:07:21] But you're saying it doesn't matter because the English, the planes and the boots on the ground are going to destroy them. [01:07:27] We talk about a number of different things there, aren't we? [01:07:30] So, yeah, there's no denying that the Iranian command and control system is still in place. [01:07:35] They can still launch things at UAE or deep into Saudi. [01:07:38] That's my impression that people were surprised by how effective that was. [01:07:41] But anyway, yeah, yeah, it has been a bit surprising. [01:07:43] Yeah, it has been a bit a little bit surprising. [01:07:45] I bet Pete Hegseth and the planners, the two-star planners at the Pentagon, are a bit aghast. [01:07:50] Probably thought they'd have this thing wrapped up to a higher degree than it is at the moment, at least. [01:07:56] But that's something different, isn't it, to defending this island, this actual bit of land, against thousands of Marines and the 82nd airborne. [01:08:07] Can they stop that from happening if the Donald decides to go? [01:08:14] If he gives the go signal, just looking at it, there's so many different spots you could potentially land, you know, landing craft if that's the way they're going to go. [01:08:24] Yeah. [01:08:26] So it's a small place in the sea, really. [01:08:28] And the Americans have got previous, the Marines even have got previous experience of attacking very small islands. [01:08:36] Well, it's sort of what they specialize in, isn't it? [01:08:38] Amphibious assaults. [01:08:40] That's sort of the whole raison d'ĂȘtre. [01:08:42] Well, yeah, I mean, if we look back through history, well, the Pacific War, go back to the World War II. [01:08:50] In 1943, there's Tarawa, the Battle of Tarawa. [01:08:54] Well, there's loads. [01:08:56] The whole Pacific Island was an exercise in island hopping in various ways. [01:09:01] There's Iwo Jima, of course, famously, and Okinawa. [01:09:05] Most people have heard of those. [01:09:06] But there were dozens, if not hundreds, of small islands that the US retook by force. [01:09:13] And the officer corps, you know, trained at West Point, they will be steeped in that history. [01:09:19] They will know inside out exactly what they failed to do during that war and how you do it properly and professionally with the least number of how to do it most efficiently, basically. [01:09:30] And now they've got their discombobulator as well. [01:09:32] What's that? [01:09:33] You heard about that discombobulator? [01:09:36] When they did that initial strike, Trump was like, they'd never seen anything like it. [01:09:39] He was basically saying that the US had almost like alien-level weapons that they'd never seen before. [01:09:43] And they have this discombobulator that just messes people. [01:09:46] They don't know what's happened. [01:09:47] It just messes them up and they can't even operate their own weapons and things like this. [01:09:50] You know, I hear about that. [01:09:51] I think that was in the initial nuclear when they went for the Iran nuclear capability the first time. [01:09:56] Anyway, sorry, that's a distraction. [01:09:57] The Iranians have also been teasing some sort of mystery weapon as well, haven't they? [01:10:01] Have you seen this? [01:10:02] Yeah, they've sort of, yeah. [01:10:04] I don't know how legitimate that is or whether they're bluffing or what the deal is. [01:10:08] Yeah, I suppose. [01:10:09] Yeah, I guess. [01:10:10] Yeah, the Americans like on you're right, Nick. [01:10:12] Oh no, it was Venezuelan military equipment when he first used a discombobulator to get Maduro. [01:10:18] It describes as a non-kinetic high-tech device that shuts down communications, radar, and defenses. [01:10:24] It's like we've been discombobulated, we don't even know what's happened. [01:10:26] It's shut down. [01:10:27] Anyways, it reminds me of the aluminum modulator or something of in the Martian. [01:10:33] Yeah, but there's like in obviously there's like what the Mariana Islands, the Marshall Islands, the Gilbert Islands, English Island hopping in the Philippines. [01:10:42] It's like the battle for Saipan, Tinian, Guam, Inuiniok. [01:10:48] I don't know how to pronounce that properly. [01:10:50] Or even, what was it, Pelelu? [01:10:53] I read a long thing the other few weeks back about the retaking of Pelelu and the Marines fighting off the beaches. [01:11:03] It's basically like just a desert island, isn't it? [01:11:07] There's a number of them where it's little more than an atoll, just big enough to build an airstrip on. [01:11:12] But they'll send thousands of men on there to casualties in order to get it because it's strategically important. [01:11:19] For some reason, I've been reading about the Pacific campaign as well, just out of the blue. [01:11:23] Right. [01:11:24] Yeah. [01:11:24] I mean, Iwo Jima is probably the example par excellence of a tiny little rock in the sea and you will send in thousands and thousands of men and take thousands of thousands of casualties. [01:11:34] I don't think this will be the same thing. [01:11:36] It's not, it's a whole different ball game than the 1944 Pacific. [01:11:41] But the point is, the point I'm trying to make is that the US, they're not coming to this green. [01:11:48] In that first article from the mail, it said things like that the Americans might not really know what they're doing or they don't really know enough. [01:11:58] Like they made the example of D-Day was planned for months and months and months. [01:12:02] This will just be a thrown together, cobbled together last ditch attempt. [01:12:07] No, I don't think so. [01:12:08] No, I think the Americans have been thinking about, well, they have been thinking about taking Cargill Island by main force for years and years and years. [01:12:18] The planners in the Pentagon will know this rock off by heart. [01:12:21] Sorry, go on. [01:12:21] I was just going to say that I imagine that a large portion of the island is like oil export infrastructure. [01:12:27] And so it limits their capacity to build defences and it will make it harder to defend. [01:12:33] And also, if you're next to a great big oil drum, you don't want to be stood near that if there are missile strikes and bullets flying, right? [01:12:40] That is one of the things the Iranians could do in their defense is sort of self-savotise, blow these things up, make a giant smoke pool, various things they could do. [01:12:50] But some are saying that, you know, this is just sort of sabre-rattling by the Donald and they've got no real intention. [01:12:55] It'd be a crazy thing to actually do it. [01:12:58] But my take is it's looking increasingly more likely. [01:13:03] So they're sending in a number, they're sending there right now a whole number of ships. [01:13:07] The USS Tripoli, that's the USS Tripoli there, another aircraft carrier, slightly older, slightly smaller one than sort of the Gerald R. Ford class. [01:13:17] Something that is sort of truly for close in combat. [01:13:21] Something like the Gerald R. Ford or something is, or the Abraham Lincoln is so valuable that they keep it at a distance. [01:13:28] It looks like they're going to send this into the Persian Gulf. [01:13:32] Maybe run the gauntlet of the... [01:13:34] Well, it would have to, won't it? [01:13:35] We'll have to run the gauntlet of the Hormuz Straits. [01:13:38] There's another picture of it. [01:13:41] The USS New Orleans, there's the USS New Orleans. [01:13:45] So imagine that's two helipads in the back there. [01:13:48] Yeah. [01:13:48] And the whole back of it opens up for also like an amphibious assault, yeah. [01:13:54] Look, oh, these hovercraft, are they? [01:13:57] Speedboats and/or hovercrafts. [01:13:59] Okay. [01:14:00] Exactly for amphibious assaults. [01:14:03] I mean, that's what this ship is for. [01:14:06] You don't send it to the region unnecessarily, almost certainly. [01:14:10] Well, it's specialized, isn't it? [01:14:12] And so you're not going to send a specialist bit of equipment out unless you intend to use it. [01:14:17] I mean, I said that when there was a build-up before this war even started, and when the Pentagon started sending loads, if not nearly all their mid-air refueling aeroplane tanker aeroplanes to the region, and people say, no, it's still not going to happen. [01:14:32] It's not going to happen. [01:14:33] I was like, it probably will, though, because you don't do that otherwise. [01:14:36] You just don't do it. [01:14:37] It costs loads of money and stuff to do. [01:14:41] And the same with this. [01:14:42] You wouldn't really be sending this into the Gulf, if that's what they do, unless you meant to use it, really. [01:14:50] That's the USS Boxer. [01:14:52] That's the boxer. [01:14:52] They're another carrier, you know, an older, smaller one. [01:14:55] One that is sort of not, I don't want to say expendable, but it's one if you're going to throw it into real danger. [01:15:02] It's going to take incoming. [01:15:04] Something like the USS Boxer is what you send. [01:15:06] A game where we just put these on screen and you have to identify them. [01:15:10] It's like you bet. [01:15:11] Do you remember you bet? [01:15:12] Before your time. [01:15:13] It was, yeah. [01:15:14] Okay. [01:15:15] There's the boxer again. [01:15:18] Another one of these ships. [01:15:19] Portland. [01:15:19] Yeah. [01:15:20] Yeah, I can do it. [01:15:21] You're reading my notes. [01:15:24] That is the Portland. [01:15:25] Yeah, the USS Portland. [01:15:28] Again, one of the ships where it's got the whole back opens out. [01:15:33] Again, so you can send thousands of Marines in one wave. [01:15:39] I feel like it's going to happen. [01:15:41] I might be wrong. [01:15:42] I could be wrong. [01:15:43] This segment could age poorly, but I don't think so. [01:15:48] The Comstock, the USS Comstock, that one, another one, another one. [01:15:55] It's like they're gearing up to do an amphibious assault. [01:15:58] Yeah. [01:15:59] Kind of blatantly. [01:16:00] I just know they're itching to use this stuff. [01:16:01] You know what the military are like? [01:16:03] And they're always like, come on, we want this war. [01:16:05] I'm basing this on the film 13 Days when they're desperately trying to get Kennedy to go to war. [01:16:09] He doesn't want to. [01:16:10] Cuba Missile Crisis, but they're like, come on. [01:16:12] They're sitting around all day with this amazing equipment. [01:16:14] You know what I mean? [01:16:14] Sorry, carry on. [01:16:15] No, no, it's definitely a thing in the military. [01:16:19] You've got to sort of, in this thinking, you've got to use this stuff at some point. [01:16:24] You've sort of got to justify it all. [01:16:26] The same sort of mindset that makes you effective in combat of, yes, I can go there and we can do it, makes you a good soldier, but it also makes you very prone to supporting war at the same time. === Regime Change Risks (03:18) === [01:16:38] I mean, if you're in the Pentagon, you will support war. [01:16:41] You will be hawkish, won't you? [01:16:42] Nearly always? [01:16:44] By the nature of it. [01:16:45] Oh, look, there's a picture of that fictional island in that game you're talking about. [01:16:48] I've never played it, but you and Terry have. [01:16:51] So you know it well, do you? [01:16:52] You've actually played this map. [01:16:53] Yeah, loads of times. [01:16:54] Okay. [01:16:55] It does look like fun. [01:16:57] Isn't it the Russians in the game? [01:16:59] It is. [01:17:00] It's the Russians have taken Carg Island and you've got to take it back off them or something. [01:17:04] Okay. [01:17:05] You also play as the Russians, you know, play each side. [01:17:08] A little bit of the politics now. [01:17:10] Oh, well, my take is that if the Americans do send in the 82nd and the Marines, I suspect they will take that island relatively quickly and easily. [01:17:20] Who knows? [01:17:21] The Iranians may have some special weapon or they'll absolutely swamp it with missiles and drones and the Americans will be sent packing. [01:17:34] I don't think so, but we shall see. [01:17:38] My opinion is that this is probably, you know, this conflict is a mistake, but I also don't want the US to do badly. [01:17:46] I'm rooting for you. [01:17:47] I don't want you to take any losses if possible because I'm no fan of Iran. [01:17:52] But at the same time, it's a big risk. [01:17:56] It's a big destabilizing force. [01:17:58] And also, you don't exactly know what you're up against and how things are going to go. [01:18:03] Yeah, the fog of war. [01:18:05] Yeah, once you roll the dice, like most battle plans go out the window quite quickly when faced with battlefield reality. [01:18:14] But we shall see. [01:18:16] A little bit of the politics then. [01:18:17] In this article, at least, it says furious Republicans storm out of secret Iran briefing. [01:18:21] It's not that secret. [01:18:23] As shifting objectives spark panic. [01:18:27] And this story is basically saying that among other people, Nancy, Congresswoman Nancy Mace, that's her, I believe. [01:18:34] She came out and she was at liberty to just talk to the media and things straight after that they let her and some other important people into some of the thinking of what's going on. [01:18:45] And she said things like, what we've been told before about the regime change and the various objectives of this war is not really what we've just been told. [01:18:57] And when asked specifically about the Carg Island, she said what we've just been told is jaw-dropping. [01:19:04] And their plans will blow your brains out. [01:19:07] Metaphorically, I think she's thinking. [01:19:08] She's speaking. [01:19:09] Interesting turn of phrase there, yeah. [01:19:11] So again, that says to me they're just definitely going to do it. [01:19:13] They're going to do it. [01:19:14] Let her in the meeting. [01:19:14] That's all. [01:19:16] Don't go and immediately tell her. [01:19:18] You wouldn't believe what we're going to do to Carg Island at 8.47 tomorrow. [01:19:21] What are you doing? [01:19:23] Well, they have to brief certain people and they know that somebody like that is going to be asked by the media and they're at liberty. [01:19:32] So they wouldn't have let her in the room at all if they didn't want, they didn't expect something like that to leak. [01:19:37] Yeah, yeah. [01:19:39] So there you go. [01:19:40] Other people said, no, she's off her trolley. [01:19:42] That's not right. [01:19:43] However, White House spokesman Anna Kelly disputed Nancy Macy's comments saying it was completely false. [01:19:51] So there's a few things whirling around at the moment. === Middle East Troops (06:20) === [01:19:56] The other thing to mention I thought of note is that apparently, again, according to the mail, that Trump is mulling, sending 10,000 more, there's 10,000 more ground troops to the Middle East amid peace talks. [01:20:09] Because they've already got, before this war ever started, the number of bases and things they've got in and around the region had something like 50,000 personnel already, military personnel. [01:20:18] You know, only a small number of those are actual sort of combat ready Marines or anything. [01:20:23] But still, 50,000 people in the region. [01:20:25] Now they're sending thousands more of like the most hardcore guys, actual combat Marines in the 82nd Airborne. [01:20:32] Like the airborne, as I say, they don't muck around. [01:20:35] They're there to kill and destroy things. [01:20:37] That's what paratroopers do. [01:20:38] They're there to drop behind enemy lines and cause chaos. [01:20:42] That's what they do. [01:20:43] That's all they do, really. [01:20:44] So, all right. [01:20:45] And Trump's thinking about sending 10,000 more boots on the ground. [01:20:50] So it will be limited, right? [01:20:52] It's not a full-blown 2003 send in the big red one, division after division of tanks. [01:20:58] It's not that, is it? [01:20:59] But it is boots on the ground. [01:21:02] And I think it's going to happen shortly, imminently, like this weekend or next week at some point, maybe, probably. [01:21:09] We shall see. [01:21:11] But there you go. [01:21:12] There you go. [01:21:13] That's the update. [01:21:14] And I think that's my time up. [01:21:16] Okay. [01:21:17] We have any video comments, Samson. [01:21:20] Oh, I'll leave you to it. [01:21:22] I'll quickly read out a comment while Samson's pulling those up. [01:21:27] Baron von Warhawk says, for your segment, Nick. [01:21:30] I thought we were going to do rumbles things. [01:21:32] Do we not do them? [01:21:33] It's just that Samson's got the mouse at the minute. [01:21:35] Sure, I'd forgive those unvirtuous women, but I sure as hell wouldn't put a ring on their fingers, which I think is perfectly reasonable. [01:21:45] Okay. [01:21:48] You people watching right now, you should definitely come to the live event because I'll be there. [01:21:54] I have my event ticket. [01:21:56] I have my plane ticket. [01:21:57] I'm just waiting for my visa acceptance. [01:22:00] So check out my art gallery at Instagram, The Doggy Dane, or just Amelia's United. [01:22:07] And really looking forward to meet people and talk at the live event. [01:22:12] It's going to be so much fun. [01:22:15] I'm looking forward to it. [01:22:16] It's going to be good. [01:22:17] It's been a long time since we've done a live event, isn't it? [01:22:19] Yeah, three or four years or something, isn't it? [01:22:22] Yeah. [01:22:22] Long overdue, but it'll be good fun. [01:22:25] I think it's going to be a lovely atmosphere. [01:22:30] Is that it? [01:22:33] Okay. [01:22:34] Okay. [01:22:35] Some rumble rants quickly. [01:22:37] Bucker says, I suggest you guys watch history legend video on taking the island to realize that Ukraine, Russia, and Iran has changed way of warfare so much that you are so wrong in sleepwalking to disaster. [01:22:54] Well, I'm not the one leading the US. [01:22:57] So I'm just speculating. [01:23:00] I don't know. [01:23:00] Yeah, tell it to the divisional commander of the 82nd Airborne. [01:23:03] I mean, how do you want? [01:23:05] But thank you for the $2. [01:23:08] Habsification says this segment is called Boat Spotting Wood Bow. [01:23:15] And Bold Eagle says the initial assault will go in the US's favor afterwards. [01:23:19] All the troops on there are going to be at the mercy of Iranian missiles and drones. [01:23:23] There is no cover on that island from those. [01:23:25] I did think that actually Sigil Stone says the US strategy is to drop crates of crayons on the island, then dump the Marines just offshore, telling them you want Fed, the crayons are on that island. [01:23:39] Nice reference there. [01:23:41] I feel like I can't say that though, not being American. [01:23:45] Habsification for my segment: I really hope for more automation and less slavery. [01:23:50] That would be nice, wouldn't it? [01:23:52] Yes, same with immigration, really. [01:23:54] It's like everything's going to be automated. [01:23:56] No one's going to have a job. [01:23:58] Anyway, here's infinite migration. [01:24:01] Would you like to read some of your comments? [01:24:02] Yeah. [01:24:03] We've got Reese Sim. [01:24:04] The problem with many of these born-again women is that they expect immediate forgiveness rather than seeking it through repentance. [01:24:09] If a woman comes to realize her lifestyle is wrong, turns away from that lifestyle and gives up any wealth/slash assets for sea from it, then she can be forgiven. [01:24:16] I think that's probably what the woman was. [01:24:18] I don't know about her ass, I don't know if she had any, but she certainly seemed to change her lifestyle completely. [01:24:23] Hector Rex, listen, God still knows everything you did. [01:24:26] He forgives, not forgets. [01:24:28] Well, that's true. [01:24:28] He certainly will know. [01:24:31] That's a random name. [01:24:32] I will only ever buy these. [01:24:34] Hang on. [01:24:34] Buy that these women are truly repenting when they delete all their social media and go completely off-grid. [01:24:38] But they don't because it's all a grift. [01:24:40] Certainly a reasonable point. [01:24:42] Alistair Crowley, holy cock. [01:24:44] Yeah, fair. [01:24:46] Or arguably fair. [01:24:47] Derek Power, for the Orthodox, this coming Sunday will be the Sunday dedicated to St. Mary of Egypt, a textbook case of someone who started out as a harlot, but then spent the remainder of her life in the desert. [01:24:56] And in repentance, it is only possible if it is sincere. [01:24:59] That's right, more chicks should be put into the desert to repent, sent to the desert. [01:25:04] Brian Clark, he and the pastor definitely look gay. [01:25:07] She looks Jewish or Italian. [01:25:09] Yes. [01:25:11] Fair play. [01:25:12] What would you say to that? [01:25:13] Not much I can add to that. [01:25:14] Yeah. [01:25:14] Talking about her nose. [01:25:16] Is that what that was? [01:25:16] I just thought, I think you thought about her overall. [01:25:19] It looks like Josh basically swore the good looking of her. [01:25:27] I don't know what part you're annoyed about. [01:25:29] She looks like Josh was the part mainly. [01:25:31] I meant dark hair. [01:25:33] Okay. [01:25:34] You're not like the Anglos here who are just pure. [01:25:37] I was going to say, I haven't got that gummy smile. [01:25:40] No, I didn't mean any of that. [01:25:41] I just meant like it could be Italian. [01:25:43] Okay, okay. [01:25:45] You're reduced. [01:25:45] Dude, I'll forgive you now. [01:25:47] I was trying to take the folks off the intensive, like the dodginess of that comment, bring it to like a comic point. [01:25:52] Then you got annoyed. [01:25:53] Can't win here today, guys. [01:25:55] Olive skin, dark hair, brown eyes. [01:25:56] That's what I'm saying. [01:25:58] It's from Scotland, all right, I promise. [01:26:01] Michael says, surprised to hear such a common sense argument from UK representatives, especially with you haven't called him this, but Kier Starmer is PM. [01:26:11] You'd think he'd have appointed a wokey. [01:26:14] Well, it was sort of couched in woke language, wasn't it? === Foreign Aid Critique (03:48) === [01:26:17] But we don't have the money to give, so we can't really indulge it at the minute, regardless, even if you are woke and sympathetic to the arguments as they presented it. [01:26:26] Didn't David Lammy stand up in the Oxford Union and argue for reparations? [01:26:31] Yes. [01:26:31] He did, didn't he? [01:26:33] The current Justice Secretary in cabinet. [01:26:37] An absolute stain on our great nation. [01:26:39] One of the biggest beasts in the Labour Party politically and physically. [01:26:46] Baron von Warhawk says: ever since 1960, the Western nations have sent over 2.6 trillion to Africa. [01:26:53] I know we made a big mistake there. [01:26:55] The Soviet Union sent 808 million in aid to Africa, and modern Russia has sent 4 billion in aid. [01:27:01] China has invested 180 billion in attempts to build African infrastructure. [01:27:05] All that money to jack to fix the continent. [01:27:08] At some point, the human race has to accept that Africa is a money pit, and no matter how much money you give to them, it will just be wasted. [01:27:15] Yeah, I think that what foreign aid basically is, is taking money from poor people in your country and giving it to rich people in a third world country. [01:27:25] That's how it actually functions. [01:27:26] And quite often, giving aid money to a country worsens it because it entrenches the corrupt system in which creates the conditions in the first place. [01:27:35] So you also create learned helplessness. [01:27:38] So it's not helping them. [01:27:39] I'll read one more short one. [01:27:41] Lord Inquisitor Heck Direct says, after deducting bikes and cell phones, Africa owes the West Trinians. [01:27:50] Okay, for my segment, we've got Paul Neubauer who says, Iran has been in a forever war against the US and committed numerous acts of war. [01:28:00] And finally, we have a president willing to put an end to it. [01:28:04] Hopefully, and very soon. [01:28:06] You know, even though I'm against the conflict, I don't want it to be long and protracted, and I want there to be as few losses as possible. [01:28:13] Cesti King says, don't worry, guys, I've already stormed Carg Island, defeated the Iranians, and captured the entire thing in Battlefield 3. [01:28:24] Ben Gale says, trying to capture Carg Island would be a disaster. [01:28:27] It would be like trying to take Iwo Jima, but with drones and with the whole island being within range of guided missiles fire from the Iranian mainland. [01:28:35] I mean, yeah, yeah, you're right. [01:28:36] That's got to be their worry, isn't it? [01:28:38] Like the initial thing of storming the beaches and taking that island within an hour or two. [01:28:42] Okay. [01:28:43] Yeah, but then what? [01:28:44] Yeah, you make a good point. [01:28:45] Many of those ships. [01:28:45] Ben Gale. [01:28:46] Yeah, I mean, that's the worry, isn't it? [01:28:47] Obviously. [01:28:48] Many of those ships that they're bringing in have the anti-missile technology on them, which I think is part of the reason they're bringing them in, right? [01:28:55] Oh, and those ships won't be those two carriers and things and those. [01:28:57] They'll be part of a group. [01:29:00] Yeah, and the Americans will be doing everything they can to keep the airspace free of missiles and drones incoming. [01:29:06] Of course they will. [01:29:07] They're not actually not stupid. [01:29:09] They know that is going to be the case. [01:29:11] So I imagine they will ring that island with as much anti-air defense as they possibly can. [01:29:16] Well, I mean, it's the best equipped military in the world. [01:29:19] So they're going to do everything they can, I think. [01:29:22] Michael Dre Belbis says, to be clear, Iran has been overdue for a pasting since 1979. [01:29:30] Hopefully this will cut off the funds to the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah, and an S-ton of other terrorist operatives. [01:29:37] Might silence Hassan Pika as well. [01:29:40] Worth it just for that, wouldn't it? [01:29:43] I don't think we should conduct geopolitical military operations on, you know, with any regard for how it affects Hassan Pika. [01:29:51] Quite right, quite right. [01:29:52] And on that note, enjoy your weekend. [01:29:54] Thank you for watching. [01:29:56] Tune in to the Gold Tier Zoom call at three o'clock today to talk to Harry and Stelios. [01:30:01] Thank you very much for watching. [01:30:02] Thank you to both of you and goodbye.