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Future Bifurcation of British Politics 00:04:09
	Good afternoon folks.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Losaters for Friday the 20th of February 2025.
	I am joined by Nick and Beau and today we're going to be talking about the future bifurcation of British politics.
	I think it's actually all sort of collapsing down into the same thing.
	Then we're going to be looking at who is actually running the country is in the literal mechanisms of government.
	What kind of people are pulling those?
	Not great ones.
	And aliens are real.
	According to Barack Obama.
	Not my words.
	Well, I mean, I guess, I mean, who would know other than presidents, I guess, you know.
	But anyway, so this is going to be a fun one this afternoon.
	And after the podcast, we are doing alt media parliament on the lads hour.
	So basically, we're going to be choosing our ideal government with the media figures that we're familiar with.
	Personally, I'm rooting for Katie Hopkins as head of Ofcom.
	I hope the panel will agree with me on that because it'd be funny.
	But that's at three o'clock on the website, so of course come and join us then.
	Anyway, without further ado, let us begin.
	So we've got a couple of different things that have happened recently.
	I'm just going to just get that to a further point, just so you can see.
	So we've got aristocratic man on his farm who I think has the general political disposition of Sir Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington, right?
	Am I wrong?
	Not really, right?
	He's got that kind of like hard, old Tory, shire Tory opinion, which is law and order, you know, people in their place and everything going as it should be going, as is traditional.
	I mean, I guess Lee and the government get out of my farm, get out of my business and stop messing with my life.
	When you said Wellesley, I immediately thought, has Rupert fought any battles in India?
	But no, I know what you're saying now.
	I get France.
	I get what you're saying.
	Easily could.
	Yeah, I was saying that on a stream last night.
	He's an old Tory.
	This is the thing.
	He's not that extreme or anything.
	People are trying to paint it like this.
	He's actually this old Tory.
	What our leaders have done to us is extreme.
	But now the solutions are slightly robust for the average Brit, which is people have to be sent home and things like this.
	Or not, you know, more robust than we've had to be in the past.
	But it's because extreme things have been done to us.
	If you look at Rupert, he's just an old Tory going, stay out of my business.
	Old school Britain.
	Yeah, because there's currently an attempt on the wet library.
	So conservatives, unheard, those sort of types.
	And of course, reform are trying to call Rupert a neo-Nazi.
	And he started denouncing it.
	It's like, no, I mean, nothing about this screams 20th century Germanism.
	What it screams is 19th century Britishism.
	As in, this is the kind of, yeah, we will go and fight Napoleon.
	You could exactly hear him saying, well, we'll have to go and fight Napoleon then, won't we?
	We'll have to give me an army, send me to Portugal.
	I'll sort this out.
	You could see exactly that sort of, those sort of words coming out of his mouth, not, you know, 20th century fascist rhetoric, because we just haven't heard any of that from Rupert.
	The forces of reaction, I wear that badge proudly.
	Oh, yeah.
	Quite often, nativist, nationalist, right-of-centre-leaning politics is a reaction to how crazy the left have gone throughout history I'm talking about.
	Correct.
	And so Rupert and Restore is a reaction to what's been done to us, isn't it?
	It's pretty straightforwardly that.
	But what I like about these sort of political, and this is essentially a campaign ad.
	What I like about these things is it gives the parties an opportunity to present themselves in the best possible light, in the way that they think of themselves.
	And Rupert was just on his farm saying, look, this is going to be tough.
	This is going to be difficult.
	It's going to be painful.
	But it must be done for the future of the country to keep it in line with the past of the country in order to reverse the radical Blairite revolution that has taken place, as David Starkey and Peter Hitchens call it, which I think is correct, and to restore it to something that is recognizably Britain and authentically British.
Political Campaign Ads 00:14:51
	Compared to this, we have this campaign ad from Zach Polanski.
	Now, I found this absolutely fascinating.
	I'm going to full screen it just so we can see in detail.
	Look, I get it.
	This set he has chosen.
	Now, as someone who runs a podcast, I've had to make a few sets in my day, and you think about what's in the background of the set, and you think about the aesthetic you're trying to put across.
	You think about what you're trying to tell people.
	And for some reason, Zach Polanski has chosen a 1970s council estate living room.
	Well, maybe not council estate, that's a very nice fireplace, right?
	So it's my grandma's house in the 1980s when they lived in Northampton.
	I actually got nostalgic.
	I was like, I remember how it was just like that.
	Yeah, and this is a very deliberate choice, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And he also says, you know, you just want to watch Corrie.
	And I was like, you've never watched Corrie.
	You don't know what Corrie is.
	And you've never been in a house like that.
	You're broadcasting from my grand's house in the 80s and pretending to appeal to working-class people.
	My granddad was a very working-class broke who'd be like, Do you watch Emma Dale Farm, Nikki?
	I'm like, oh, no, sorry, I haven't seen it, granddad.
	He'd think I was like a posh snob because I wouldn't watch Emma Dale Farm or whatever.
	And it's like that.
	It's like it's your programmes, and he's trying to appeal to that.
	But my granddad would also see through this guy in a second because he's never appealing to the working class.
	Well, this is what I want to talk about, this sort of inauthenticity of the set, which I find really interesting.
	I mean, that carpet is way too loud, right?
	Nobody actually had a carpet that loud back in the 1980s.
	Outside of a pub.
	Yeah, outside of the pub.
	Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
	And because the carpet is designed to hide mess.
	So the same reason they have the very loud bus covers on the bus seats and trains is to hide stains, right?
	But no one in their actual house would have had a carpet like that.
	That's a very posh fireplace.
	I mean, you know, very expensive-looking fireplace.
	But then there's the placement of the objects.
	Look how regular they are around in the background, like a stack of papers with the glasses, and then about a foot, and then the clock in the middle, and then about another foot, and another clock for some reason.
	And then you've got the T's on the table behind him, but it's behind him, so you can't access it.
	So it's very clearly a prop.
	And they've got a very weird, like, what is that, 1950s radio?
	Yeah, the radio is metal.
	But again, very clean, very, very undamaged, but perfectly spaced between just a random bowl.
	And then the thing that they're sitting on, the little table that sat on, it's just kind of there's, it's been arranged.
	Yeah, that table got me nostalgic.
	That was folding tables.
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	But it's all, yeah, very.
	Whose glasses are those as well?
	Because he's not his.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He doesn't wear glasses.
	So the whole thing just felt very arranged, right?
	And so I was looking at it, right?
	Okay, it's artificial, and it is trying to invoke a nostalgic past.
	He is actually trying to evoke a kind of British traditionalism in this.
	Whereas with Rupert, he unconsciously evoked it by being authentic.
	He was on his farm.
	He was telling you straight, this is going to be difficult.
	But we've got to do it.
	Whereas Zach Polanski is artificially trying to invoke a past that actually no longer exists.
	This is not a world that exists anymore.
	This isn't anyone's real experience.
	Like the average Zuma watching this is just like, what is this?
	You know, this doesn't look like the council of the state I was raised on or whatever, right?
	And so it's interesting how they're both appealing to traditional British aesthetics, but only one is doing it authentically.
	The other is doing it very artificially.
	And Zach Polanski is hardly the sort of person we would think of as a traditional sort of authentic British person anyway.
	But anyway, I will say one thing, though.
	It's smart to get him sat down if you've seen him running.
	I have.
	It's one him running is one of the most insane things I've ever seen.
	I've never seen that.
	Well, you've got to watch the uncoordinated.
	Yeah, right, right.
	I've never seen a human run like that.
	Literally, it should disqualify him from office on its own.
	I'm sorry.
	If you've seen Kier Starmer try to punch a bunch of backgrounds, it's like a hundred times worse than that.
	It's insane.
	It's in mad.
	It's not, it's not.
	Have you ever seen anything like it?
	No.
	I mean, literally, no.
	It's like maybe like Forrest Gump the first day he got those things taken off his legs.
	But that would be.
	But then he starts running really well.
	He starts running really well.
	It's like Forrest Gump with the leg things on.
	Still, you're like, have you got leg braces?
	It's insane.
	Anyway, we'll watch this because it's not very long.
	And it's a very interesting thing.
	If you want me to pause at any point, let me know.
	Look, I get it.
	We all hate party broadcasts.
	We just want to watch Corrie or whatever's on next.
	But I just want to take a moment to ask you to remember something the government want you to forget.
	They want you to forget that right now we are living in rip-off Britain.
	There was a time when bills weren't just going up and up and up and our public services actually worked.
	That what's happening right now, it's not normal.
	It's not extreme or obscene to ask for something better.
	We're paying for it after all.
	But right now they're getting exactly what they want, which is for you to think that change is not possible.
	That it has to be this way.
	But it does not have to be this way.
	Billionaires own far too many of our politicians.
	I thought he was going to say immigrants.
	Everything you'd said up until that point, like, yeah, the immigrants are a bit of an issue, aren't they, Zach?
	You want to talk about what's normal?
	You're not normal, Zach.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You're not actually very representative of the majority of the people of this country.
	One thing that's quite interesting is he says not extreme to us.
	It's similar to the right.
	He's saying it's not extreme to notice this.
	Exactly.
	Let me finish this and we'll explore that more.
	And every day, we're seeing how far that rock goes.
	People at the heart of government leaking secrets and the Labour government is crumbling.
	But we've got Nigel Farage.
	He's trying to paint reform as some sort of alternative.
	But reform and Labour both accept money from oil and gas companies, arms trade companies, private healthcare and gambling companies.
	That means they work for them and not you.
	But the Green Party, we're offering hope and a plan.
	We're going to take back what's ours from the people who have taken what's ours.
	Because for decades now, they have been making a killing from selling it back to us.
	We need to end rip-off Britain.
	One, we're going to lower bills.
	We'll get past his pledges, but that's actually a really interesting.
	I was with him when he said, you know, they're taking money and foreign money, blah, blah.
	But then when he said, we're going to give it back to you, it went a bit bane at the end for me.
	The people, you know, like, oh, you're just going to mug the bitch and try and give it to the people.
	But also, it's ours.
	Who's our?
	Like, sorry, I know who the Green Party constituency is, and I don't really feel like I'm in that first person plural.
	Right.
	It was also the pretense that he's one of the people as originally.
	Yeah, he isn't.
	And then, yeah, ours in the Green Party is Muslims.
	But also, people don't just hate the rich.
	They hate being exploited.
	And that's been done in various different ways.
	It's not just a rich person.
	But anyway, so I found that very interesting.
	How essentially, and this is what sparked it.
	A friend of mine called Pteradone 3000 on Twitter had posted this.
	And it's just very interesting how Rupert Lowe, we must crush parasitic Britain.
	We need to end rip-off Britain, right?
	So the two ends of the spectrum, the left and the right, have both understood that there is a problem with the centre, right?
	The centre is the issue.
	It is destroying the country.
	And so I think that this, as we are witnessing, and I've said this in previous podcasts, we're witnessing a collapse of the centre at the moment.
	Labour and the Tories are just done, and Farage has decided, I'm going to jump onto the sinking Tory ship.
	That's weird.
	Don't know why you'd do that.
	I don't know why you'd come out and allow Robert Jemerick to be like, yeah, we're going to keep the Bank of England independent.
	We're going to have the Office of Budget Responsibility overseeing everything.
	Right.
	So you're in the quangocracy and you're fine with all of that.
	Totally weird, but okay.
	You are going to fuel all the people.
	If they'll clip that and say, see, they're just like, it restores the new Your Party, restores the new Greens.
	Well, we're the right-wing party outside of the Blairite consensus.
	That's the thing.
	And so, I mean, he is the left-wing party outside of the Blairite consensus.
	But the issue is the Blairite consensus itself is what has destroyed the country because you literally couldn't point to any other political paradigm that might be responsible.
	And everyone can see that that's the problem.
	So whether you think it's billionaires, and in a way, there is an argument there.
	Okay, yeah, I don't.
	I mean, Rupert Lowe in the interview I did with him yesterday said, well, I don't want the country being bought up by BlackRock.
	Of course, he doesn't.
	He's a high Tory.
	You know, of course he doesn't want the country being bought up by BlackRock.
	He also doesn't want millions of foreign parasites coming in and taking our welfare.
	Now, Zach Polanski is completely in favour of that.
	So I actually think that Rupert Lowe has both of these aspects of the problem covered, whereas Zach Polanski sees one aspect but openly encourages the other aspect.
	So I just don't think the Greens could solve the problem because they're ideologically blind to it whether they like.
	The key difference is Rupert's like, stay off my land, whereas Zach would get onto his farms, sack the whole place, turn it into a commune of some sort for a gulag.
	But just as a quick aside on this, Zach Polanski is bonkers, actually.
	This is genuinely funny from Sky News.
	Will Watrix is just hilarious.
	Is the beauty of being an opposition party that isn't going to be in government, that you can say what you like and you don't necessarily have to make the Sunzad arc?
	Well, I think it'd be really irresponsible to do that.
	And that's exactly why the Green Party have always put forward a costed manifesto at any general election.
	It's also why I always want to answer questions, honestly, about the wealth taxes and why I think we should have a conversation about the fact that the real wealth creators in this country are cleaners, teachers, nurses, the people who keep our economy moving.
	None of those people create wealth.
	I know I said, like, I've got a degree in English literally, and even I know that's absolutely.
	Yes, like the cleaners and the what?
	They're literally the service.
	Right.
	That's where the wealth goes.
	Doesn't mean they're bad people, but they're not creating wealth.
	Entrepreneurs create wealth by taking massive risk and employing people.
	Exactly.
	What he's describing there is the service side of the economy, which is where the wealth goes after it's been spent, because you want the services that are provided by these valuable people.
	Rupert's employing those people.
	His businesses.
	Everyone is.
	Whenever you earn your money, they're the people you employ with that money.
	And that's fine.
	That's normal.
	It's completely fine.
	But you can see that Zach Polanski just does not understand the way the world works.
	It's classic leftist economic theory, i.e., not understanding properly.
	Always prepared to just say it.
	That capitalism is the problem.
	The idea of having a profit motive, that that's the problem.
	Well, he doesn't understand how wealth is created.
	That's what he's revealed here.
	It's like the real wealth creators are people who don't create wealth.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's fine that you've picked a constituency, at least one constituency, but you're just wrong.
	I mean, and then you've got like brilliant, brilliant takes like this, right?
	And Bo, I think you're going to particularly enjoy this one.
	It's doing what it's meant to do.
	So how do I, as Vladimir Putin, benefit from this?
	Why should I give away any of my nuclear weapons?
	Because we could obliterate you.
	Well, that's the problem, isn't it?
	That any kind of time that anyone can obliterate someone, the other person can obliterate the other person too.
	And if you really want to protect your population, the best thing we could do is all denuclearize.
	So I think it's about having a conversation.
	We know from game theory, for instance, that this kind of role-playing doesn't work.
	What ends up happening is everyone has mutual assured destruction and everyone's dead.
	Which is why we're currently broadcasting this from heaven.
	Actually, game theory tells us the opposite.
	If both people know they can do something, neither one does it in order not to enact the retribution from the party that they've launched against.
	It's funny, the concept of mad mutually sure destruction has actually held quite well.
	Since the Soviets first got their nukes, like the very late 40s, very early 50s.
	It has actually worked remarkably well, really.
	Well, there's been a lot of since then, hasn't it?
	To be fair to it.
	It's because game theory does tell us the exact opposite of what Zach Polanski has actually said here, and is correct.
	If both parties, and there are loads of experiments to show this, that if both parties just don't take the action, then they both understand that it's not worth taking the action, right?
	They know that they can do something.
	They just don't do it because otherwise everyone's dead, and which is why we didn't all die.
	Anyway, so going back to his constituency, this is very interesting because the Muslim voters just flocked to the Greens, which shouldn't surprise anyone.
	So the Greens are the party of student politicians and Muslims.
	Yep.
	It's an extra coalition.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What's going to happen the day that the, let's say the Greens win, what's going to happen to all the non-Muslim Greens?
	This is what I want to know.
	I mean, I know, I just can't say it on air.
	You think Moffin Alley is going to be like, sorry, Zach?
	Well, I think some of the women, particularly, I'm like Hannah Spencer and Gorton.
	like do you know this is not going to end well for you you know the the second that you have any kind of power what's going to happen to the i don't know I can just see how it's going to go.
	It's not the libs that are going to win that one.
	No.
	It was just a power struggle between the two.
	I can't help but feel that Zach Polanski might not actually be representative of his own party, let alone the country.
	That's the weird thing, isn't it?
	It's very peculiar, isn't it?
	But the thing is, he's promising, through communist rhetoric, just a redistribution of wealth from the high Tory types to the newly arrived.
	And so it's like, okay, well, I mean, there is a constituency for that.
	And there are lots of Muslims here and lots of foreigners who want the money that they can just be given free.
	And there are a bunch of radical student retards who think that this is justice.
	What's silly about it is it actually is the time to make a left-wing economic case.
	For example, nationalizing strategic resources like steel and nationalizing water and trains and so on.
	But he's going way further and saying, cleaners are wealth creators.
	And you're like, can you stop saying stupid nonsense?
	Because actually, you know, someone like the SDP has a serious program on this and they can't get anywhere.
	This guy's got the spotlight.
	It's like, well, you actually, you've got your chance to make some of the left-wing economic case.
	Because there's not much appetite for Thatcherism right now in the young people.
	But you're just not making it because he's making me part of it.
	And then the stupid health-rich cleaners are giving us all the money case.
	Well, notice how he's strategically making the case.
	When he thinks he's talking to working-class people in Britain, he'll strategically make the case.
	Oh, yeah, we're in ripoff Britain.
	And so there is an economic issue.
	But the thing is, the problem that the Green Party has is not just the silly things that he says.
	It's that they keep saying...
	They're running.
	No, no, let's stay on the silly things for a minute, right?
	So this is a Russian news outlet called SVTV News.
Matt's Climate Poll Critique 00:14:06
	And even they were like, oh, my God, right?
	Because this is their candidate for Gorton and Denton.
	And she said this to Matt Goodwin, and it was just remarkable.
	Never asked why these people.
	What we did after the terror attacks was we came together and we stuck up for each other.
	But you've never asked why are those things happening?
	Of course we have.
	Why are they happening?
	Of course we have, because people like you are dividing.
	So I'm responsible for the Manchester Lightning News Arena marketing now.
	It's so bad.
	Never go fool Gary Neville.
	It's got Russia.
	They were just like, look at this.
	Yeah, and it is now.
	People are now noticing that that's an appalling, totally inadequate, insane, and immoral response when kids have been blown up.
	It's like, it's you, Matt Goodwin.
	It's like no one thinks that anymore, except lefties, because their beliefs don't pertain to any external reality.
	It's just what do my left-wing groups, what are we all saying?
	Are we saying this today?
	I found out, you know, Jim Ratcliffe made those comments about where we've been colonized.
	I normally watch the Man United channels, it's the only thing I can still talk to my family about.
	And we bond on football.
	I watch these channels and they're all just parroting the left.
	We deserve everything because of colonizing.
	We colonize the world, so we deserve it.
	You know, all the left-wing talk about it, all unexamined nonsense that they say to each other, but they never meet anyone outside of their bubble.
	So it's just, anyway.
	They're very ideologically rigid.
	I wrote an article before ages ago saying I will look back in anger.
	The response to it of don't look back in anger, don't really question exactly why it happened or who did it or their motivations or anything.
	Just simply don't look back in anger.
	That is a very completely immoral response to it.
	That's wrong-headed.
	It's evil, really.
	Yeah, that's why Morrissey said, I will look back in anger till the day I die.
	Right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, anyway, the Green Party is ideologically rigid, right?
	It's an incredibly left-wing policy party.
	And Zach Polanski tries to pitch in tone to working-class people.
	But even then, in the substance of what he said, it is just communist rhetoric.
	We just want to steal the money from the rich.
	But the problem is, the rest of their platform is actually as radically just nonsensical as anyone can imagine.
	To the point where it's just genuinely embarrassing their own supporters, right?
	Here's Jimmy the Giant being like, Oh, look at this.
	I mean, this, if you look at this, right?
	Green Party policies: open border chaos and unlimited immigration, legalized crack cane and heroin, even higher net zero energy bills, and then teaching primary kids LGBT plus sex ed.
	I didn't know that wasn't a Green Party.
	For a second, I looked, I thought it was their flyer, and then I looked at it.
	It's like, well, it basically is.
	But that's the point, right?
	And Jimmy's like, oh, this is such a boring campaign.
	Drugs, immigrant, trans.
	You need some new material.
	It's like, but Jimmy, this is their campaign platform.
	I mean, I just did a little thread here.
	He literally wants to legalize all drugs.
	They literally want, I mean, look at the Green Party wants to see a world without borders.
	No, I'm sorry.
	The Green Party wants a free-for-all of anarchy, chaos, and slaughter.
	Everyone's on heroin and there's no borders.
	And of course, they do campaign for the right of self-identification for trans and non-binary people.
	So if you just identify as whatever you like that day, then you are that thing.
	And so, sorry, Jimmy, it's just, you know, you can say that's boring, but that's literally what you support.
	That's actually what you're asking for.
	What happened to the whales and the dolphins?
	Do you remember when it was green?
	Yeah, when it was actually the planet.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's communist.
	They never mentioned the climate anymore.
	It's gay race communism.
	It just mentioned non-binary legalized drugs.
	We're all Muslim.
	Sorry, where are the whales and dolphins?
	Not even the climate, though.
	Not even the climate.
	The climate's gone.
	And around 2020, it was like, we're going to have climate lockdowns.
	It was climate, climate, climate.
	I never hear about the climate anymore.
	Can you imagine if you were one of those 5% of Greens who are like, yeah, I'm just going to save the planet.
	I'm going to vote green.
	And suddenly you're like, you know, gay Islamo-leftist Muslim nonsense.
	You'd be like, what am I doing here?
	I was going to say that.
	I've got a bit of sympathy for that type of probably boomer.
	Yeah.
	Might think I'm fair.
	There's a lot of young students.
	Not bad type.
	Yeah, the treehugger type that genuinely just want to save the planet and they've got endless guilt about the climate kids.
	And that they've followed, been in the Greens for years and years, up till today.
	What do they think is going on when they see Mothinali or something talk about?
	Yeah.
	So we've scrapped the climate.
	Now it's trans and kids and Sharia law.
	Anyway, for the sake of time, we've got to accelerate a little bit.
	So there's various polls that are coming out, Gorton and Dentum.
	You saw a different one this morning.
	I saw this one that I think the Green Party have been taking basically doorstep information, like who the person says they're going to support.
	It's pretty close between reform and green.
	But the thing is, I think reform aren't actually going to be around as long as you think because, well, people aren't that impressed with reform.
	I mean, Matt Goodwin had his little Alan Partridge monologue here.
	Now, I don't dislike Matt.
	I know a lot of people on this panel dislike Matt, but I don't dislike Matt.
	But, I mean, when Owen Jones is getting a good own on you on this, don't let Mad Zach hypnotise you into voting green.
	They want to legalize all drugs, crack cocaine and heroin.
	They want open border chaos.
	Keir Starmer looks like a robot.
	Doesn't understand the British people.
	Vote reform.
	I mean, that does kind of sound a bit Alan Partridge.
	That's the problem.
	And what Nick Buckley said to me, he's running in this area and he'll be accused of splitting the vote, but he's actually from the area.
	He's like, you've got to get rid of that scarf and gloves because you just look like.
	Manchester, they just won't be having it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He looks like he's going skiing.
	Well, just quickly to say the poll you put there, I've looked at a couple of polls this morning on the Bo Show, Breakfast with Bo, and it had in that particular poll, it had Matt Goodwin and Reform way out in front, bro, a few solid points.
	So we'll see what happens.
	I wonder if...
	I'm sorry, go on.
	No, no, no, you go ahead.
	I was just going to say, we'll see whether it works or not.
	It does look like every poll I've seen, it's not Labour.
	Out in front.
	Whatever it is, that's not Labour.
	And that's the point.
	In a normal world, it would be Nick Buckley because he's local.
	He'd be so good.
	It's a shame.
	But yeah, you are right.
	It's not Labour.
	But the question is, is reform going to last?
	Now, Matt posted this with the caption Great Pick, because as you can see, it's I'm voting Reform UK above a halal shop.
	You see my tweet?
	I just said Reform UK aesthetic.
	Yeah.
	Come on, it's perfect.
	It is actually kind of unbelievable.
	I mean, the halal pizza shop next to it.
	But then in the bottom, I mean, you can see all the peeling paint, the fact that the thing, you know, the place looks run down.
	In the bottom left...
	The weaves, black lady weaves.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you've got the black lady weaves in the barbershop.
	And then you've got the Hebrew Israelites, I think, the poster in the bottom left there.
	The funny thing is, the Matt Goodman of like a month or two ago could easily have posted that satirically saying, look at this UK YOK aesthetics, but he's now posting it saying it's good.
	And it's like, I actually wouldn't want my party's logo attached to that photo.
	And if your party is the party of that, I actually don't think this is lasting, right?
	I don't think it really isn't what most people want, what most grassroots reform people wanted.
	This is the future that reform is signing up to.
	Right?
	And that's actually, I think, what people thought they were going to destroy.
	And this is something that Dan Hodgson, the Daily Mail, is pointing out.
	Well, I think Farage is blowing it, actually.
	You think Reform's leadership would be straining every sinew and muscle to wrest this solid working-class seat from Kier Starmer's grasp, tirelessly pounding down the doors in the wind of the rain to rid the nation of the blight of Starmerism, which means Blairism, basically.
	Far from it.
	Two weeks out from polling day, they opted to coffe champagne with a man who was jailed for offering to use the dark web to launder money for drug dealers.
	On Monday, the bookmakers Lad Brooks announced for the first time since May, reform is no longer the favourite to win the seat at the next general election.
	Obviously, the bookies are not the most reliable cephalologists.
	It's a pretty good indication, though.
	Yeah, it costs them money if they're wrong.
	Yeah, it costs them money if they're wrong.
	They're a straw in the wind, and that wind is starting to turn Farage against Farage and his party.
	And I think everyone's been seeing it.
	And on the other side, as I began with Rupert Lowe, we'll close of Rupert Lokes.
	I think Rupert Lowe is actually something more authentic that the British people want.
	And he's been getting great press.
	Now, you wouldn't know that this was great press unless you actually read it.
	So I'm going to read you just a little bit from it and tell me if you agree with Rob Loney here.
	Rupert Lowe deals in the politics of return.
	Illegal immigrants are going back, and so is Britain.
	The MP of Great Yarmouth, formerly of reform, has now launched Restore Britain, and Wednesday claimed it had 70,000 members.
	The launch announcement was marked with a stirring video of Lowe and his farmers get up, as well as a series of semi-ironic nationalist videos of Lowe, compilations made by Rustore's Zuma foot soldiers.
	In one of these, among nostalgic nods to Jeff Hurst and Zulu, 1997 is invoked as the year when everything started to go wrong.
	Speaking over grainy images of Lost Britain, Lowe sums up his political outlook.
	I think the state is bad and I think the individual is good.
	I mean, sold, right?
	To be fair to Rob, who I've met a couple of times, this article is actually pretty fair and quite good.
	And at the end, it's sort of it's not that anti-Powell.
	It makes a fair case for Powell.
	He's just been done over by the headline because presumably Freddie Sayers is saying, oh, better put a bad headline on it.
	Exactly.
	That's why I've got this in the good press section, right?
	I'm going to read one more paragraph.
	In his beliefs as well as his rhetoric, Lowe is obviously a more Powell-ite figure than Farage.
	He is more interested in reducing the size of the state, is resistant to reform's nationalizing impulses, is less vulnerable to his rival than his rival to charges of socialism.
	In many ways, Restore is the more conservative project, given that its central mission is to return Britain in more explicit terms than Farage has dead to a glorious past from its Blairite present.
	Again, sold.
	Take it.
	So Farage can take on all of the Tories.
	He can agree to the Blairite structure of the country.
	And as Jemerik said, well, we're not going to tinker with the independence of the Bank of England or the OBR or the Triple O. Correlating Vising Story.
	No, no, no, you're a Blairite party.
	That's fine.
	He's literally checking his speech with George Osborne.
	Yeah, literally.
	You know, when Zoe's like, yeah, we're going to get rid of the Equalities Act and just replace it with something called something different, but keep all of the things the Equality Act does.
	It's like, right, so you're a Blairite party, right?
	And so that's true.
	He is much more Powellite in his outlook, but that's much more traditionally conservative.
	And Rupert Lowe just, there's a lot of, you know, people who are like, ah, right, so you're an insane right-winger.
	You're going the way of mid-century Joe.
	No, no, no, no.
	Rupert posts his immigration policy very clearly, and he has the 100-page deportations policy, which get rid of the illegals.
	And if the legal migrants who have come here don't work, contribute, speak our language, respect the way of life, they'll be asked to leave.
	We're going to get net negative immigration because that's what we need.
	And that's as far as that goes.
	That makes sense.
	We will not allow millions of foreigners, mainly from the third world, to take the piss.
	That is a very proper and decent conservative position and should have been the conservative position of the Conservative Party for the last 30 years plus.
	But it hasn't been.
	And so now this has come to light because it needs to be done.
	And Farage just will not have the backbone to reinforce this.
	Because the Conservative Party is the most successful political party in Europe, TM, it has all these different parts to it because it's become so bloated.
	You've got the people Kemi's left with who are simply not in any way conservative.
	They are leftists and they're brought in by Cameron's A-list and things like this, diversity hires.
	And then you've got the careerist Blairite Tories, the Jenrick side, and that's what reforms embrace clearly.
	And the slick career side.
	Then you have the actual old Tory side, which is represented by Rupert, but it doesn't look Tory anymore because the Tories have not been Tory.
	They've been leftist or Blairite.
	Yes.
	This is why I've been describing him as basically a sort of Duke of Wellington figure.
	His political opinions are basically the same, I think.
	So the question is, well, how's he doing in the polls?
	Well, oh, sorry, this was, I forgot to include this.
	There's a Time article, which is another ringing endorsement.
	Rupert Lowe's new party, Restore Britain.
	It's unlikely to poll more than a couple of points, but it could prove a kingmaker in some seats.
	Okay, well, let's talk about that because a new poll came out yesterday.
	And that's interesting.
	Reform are down.
	Greens are down.
	Conservatives are down.
	Labour are down.
	But what's up?
	Other at 7%?
	Have you ever seen the other party at 7%, the other selection of parties at 7%?
	And this was done just the other day as well.
	So this is after the launch announcement.
	And just to be clear, right, if you look at YouGov, here's like their historic other at 2%, 3%, 4% maybe, but 3-2-2%.
	So.
	Yeah, that seems that Lowe may well have a good solid 5% in the polls already.
	And that's organically in the polls.
	That's not a push poll.
	So the word is absolutely getting out here, actually.
	And the betting markets, as we said, are pretty interesting.
	So Rupert Lowe is currently at 12 to 1 on bet, whatever there's 365.
	365, yeah.
	William Hillevin, 10 to 1.
	Various others, 14, 12, 10.
	Like, sorry, these are great odds.
	That is impressive for someone no one's ever heard of.
	Apparently, yeah.
	I mean, Kemi Badenock is on like 20, 22, 25 to 1.
	So sorry, the betting markets seem to think, no, there's some legs to this.
	And apparently the gamblers are all putting their money on.
	I was just going to say, is that worth putting 20 quid on?
	A lot of people have it.
	Because it's just like, well, why not?
	You never know.
	So anyway, I personally am supporting Restore Britain.
	I've joined it.
	I think you should join it too, to be honest, because why not?
	This is the revolution from the right.
	The left have already, they're well ahead of us with Zach Polanski.
	But what Zach Polanski has shown is that effective social media messaging at the helm of the party actually can change minds now.
	I joined it on day one when it was a movement.
	So I'm joined anyway, right?
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	I'm automatically.
	Me too.
	It doesn't seem like I went on to check.
	Do you have to rejoin?
	It looks like I'm just still joined.
	Okay.
	You don't rejoin, do you?
	I have no idea.
	No, I couldn't see any way because there was no way to join again.
	So I think I'm a member anyway by joining when it was a movement.
	Very good.
	Aimpire vote low millions must go.
	Anyway, I hate to say it.
	I'm not going to have time to go through the comments yet, but we'll get to them at the end.
	You're a sticker for the time I'm going to go.
	I know.
	I didn't think that would take so long.
	Sorry.
	It's because we got the banter panel.
	Zeniel's assembling.
	The best panel.
	Everyone says so.
	I didn't like to say it.
	Just the very people.
	Very people.
	All right.
	So I'm calling this section.
	My work entitle is Look Who's Actually Running the Country.
	Remember those movies, Look Who's Talking?
	Yeah.
	Simpler Times.
	This is Look Who's Running the Country.
	That's the only link.
	There's no babies.
	Can I Whitehall?
	Yeah.
	Do you mind if I get the old mouse?
	Sorry.
	So this is Antonia Romeo.
	So what is she?
	She is the new cabinet secretary.
	What is the cabinet secretary?
	Well, it's the most senior civil service advisor to the prime minister and cabinet.
	The previous one was Chris Wormold, but he was forced out for having a bad surname.
	And it's incredibly powerful.
	This position Dominic Cummings has described it as having 100 times, perhaps 1,000 times, more real power than the average minister.
	So they are the people running things behind the scenes, in the thick of it, shouting at feckless MPs.
	Spads.
	These are the people.
	She's the ultimate spad.
	She's the sort of Power Ranger assembled spad ultimate.
	So of course you want to know who she is.
	Well, she did the classic PPE at Oxford, which is a kind of standard route.
	She got a first, to be fair.
	Everyone says she's very bright.
	Her particular interests were in game theory and money and banking.
	So the game theory has popped up again.
	It's very Adam Curtis.
	I know that Lansky just mentioned it.
	So yes, basically a careerist who's smart and therefore dangerous.
	This is my take.
	So the Telegraph, Starma appoints Antonio Romeo's cabinet secretary.
	There she is.
	And she's got a somewhat controversial background.
	So it says Starma has announced Antonio Romeo as the head of civil service after weeks in which senior Whitehall Mandarins waged a bitter briefing war against her appointment.
	While politicians have largely welcomed the appointment of a woman who knows how to get things done, some former senior civil servants warned the Prime Minister that he was making a mistake.
	Allies of the first woman to hold the post said that she, oh, they claimed that these allegations were dripping with misogyny.
	The usual thing, it must be misogyny if you're criticising women.
	However, historic claims of bullying and misuse of public money, of which Dame Antonia was cleared, resurfaced, an extraordinary attempt to dissuade Takir from making the appointment.
	So, I mean, this is all the usual thing.
	Everyone gets accused of bullying now, so I don't really take it that seriously.
	Starma really is surrounding himself with women, though, right?
	Starmer's forming the girl boss civil service and the head of his partner, the chief of staff.
	Yeah.
	Two women as well.
	The two women that replaced McSweeney.
	Yeah.
	Funny, two to do, one, one manager.
	Anyway, well, you know why?
	Because he's constantly being attacked now about the boys' club in Labour.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's the big thing they're all saying.
	So he's like desperate to survive.
	Break out the girls.
	Bring in some women.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So very, very transparent.
	But you could say she is qualified with her.
	I'm sure she is.
	She was on the list before they went with Woodworth and then they've gone back to her.
	So, you know, it depends who you talk to.
	Some people like her.
	Some people say she's a bully.
	There's also this thing that it comes despite multiple complaints, she acted in an unreasonable, degrading, demeaning, and threatening way towards staff when she was in the UK's Consul General in New York in 2017.
	To be fair, that just sells her to me.
	Yeah, well, exactly.
	When you heard, like, yeah, to be fair, I mean, she might be a bully.
	You look at it, I could sort of see her doing it.
	But at the same time, you had, what's his name?
	The lad who was throwing the bloke who's throwing tomatoes, Damien, his name's gone out of my head suddenly.
	I don't know.
	You remember when he was meant to be throwing prep mini tomatoes?
	And that was counted as bullying.
	Oh, right, okay.
	Oh, well, I can't remember his name.
	That's gone out of my head.
	But Dominic something.
	Grieve?
	Rob?
	Rob.
	Right.
	And he was meant to be throwing...
	So you go like, my point is...
	How many Dominics are there?
	What counts as bullying?
	You know what I mean?
	Pretty patel was accused of bullying.
	So yeah, that alone won't be disqualifying.
	But it does say in a highly unusual move, a former civil servant spoke out to urge the Prime Minister to think twice before giving her a job.
	Lord MacDonald said that the due diligence had some way to go.
	So some people definitely don't like her.
	One data point I saw in this morning's papers was that she'd urged earlier on, had urged civil servants to join a non-binary book club.
	And we're getting to that.
	I'm just giving the background before we get into it.
	Oh, it gets very woke.
	I should have said, it gets very woke.
	This is the background before that.
	Her nickname is the Queen of Woke.
	The Queen of Woke, I thought, really?
	Yeah.
	I should have probably said that.
	Yeah.
	So one member described it as feeling emotionally battered, saying she was very demanding, very disrespectful, very threatening.
	She was accused of...
	I hate members of these teams.
	That's the thing as well.
	So it's hard to know.
	She was accused of claiming £31,000 in expenses for accommodation eight flights between New York and London.
	So usual things like that.
	You know, did you claim too much?
	A lot of people say, some people say anyway, that she's only worried about her personal brand that's in here.
	There's a claim that that's all she cares about is promoting her own personal brand was a quote.
	And just on that, she had a thing in her office that was a mock-up of Vogue magazine with herself on the cover.
	Oh, no, it's another Yvette Cooper where it's like the portrait of themselves looking well, catfishy, but like vain, a vanity, it's about herself and her career.
	And this is like someone said this is the only thing you need to know about Antonia.
	Now her defenders say, well, it's a harmless thing mocked up by staff after she departed from her past role.
	So take your pick on those.
	I'm very fair.
	I'm off-com trained.
	One thing I'll say just quickly about bullying, and you said that you just said in passing there, but loads of people get accused of bullying.
	I honestly do think that if you're like the CEO of a company or you're like the cabinet secretary or you're the leader of any big thing, you have to have an iron will.
	You can't let people walk all over you.
	You can't because they will.
	If you surround yourself by men of steel, women of steel, and you're not strong enough, you can't meet them, can't lock holes with them, then that's no good.
	I would want someone who's extremely strong.
	Yeah, fair enough.
	I want to hear the government ministers and spads and all the sort of underlings are being bullied, to be honest.
	Well, unfortunately, the problem is what she's bullying people to do if she is bullying them is woke.
	Woke stuff.
	That's the only problem.
	Now, it's not actually really worth playing, but Rupert, the only reason I conclude it is just to show that he is holding these people to account.
	But I don't think it's worth playing because her answer takes so long and doesn't actually go anywhere.
	But he says for point blank, you are known as the Queen of Woke.
	So I clearly did just to show that Uncle Rupert's got your back.
	But Steve Edgerton breaks it down.
	He breaks down her whole record here.
	So at the Home Office since 2025, more than 65,000 illegal migrants have entered Britain on her watch.
	Awesome.
	Dubbed the Queen of Woke at DIT, which is the Department for International Trade.
	Weekly emails on trans non-binary and by visibility days.
	And I followed up a bit on this in the Telegraph.
	Starmer's new cabinet secretary made staff join non-binary book club.
	And it's pretty bad, actually, the stuff in this.
	It's unbelievably bad.
	So she made them join a gender non-conforming book club as part of their performance review.
	Whatever that is.
	She's the kind of mum who's going to trans her children just to get back at their father.
	Yeah.
	You know there's SWATs at school, the girls who are SWATs?
	They got the A's and the Gold Star because it was SWAT.
	She, to me, is a high...
	Got her first Oxford, so she's smart, but in a terrible direction, which is...
	Do woke stuff.
	She'll do it to the most degree because that's what her job is.
	If you gave her something good to do, presumably she'd do that.
	Although I suspect she'd always be a sort of very HR-driven person because that's just how these people are.
	They're also conformists.
	They look at it and they go, how can I use my brain to get ahead in the system, but I'm never going to question the system?
	It's that kind of person.
	Completely.
	She's a total believer in the system.
	She's some sort of wokeist head girl, Karen.
	Correct.
	That's not what I want.
	That's my perception.
	That's not what I want as a cabinet.
	Woke head girl, I think, is exactly the right description.
	Yeah, exactly.
	These included her helping to raise awareness and visibility of non-binary identities.
	So she did all these inclusivity programs like that.
	All the kind of stuff we've heard about.
	But these people are running the country.
	You have to understand.
	Well, yeah, and this is the thing about Morgan McSweeney.
	Like, you know, you can say whatever you like about him, but it at least was kind of like a blue labor type.
	Whereas he clearly kept Starmer's retarded leftism in check.
	And are these people going to keep Starmer's retarded leftism in check?
	No.
	So we're going to see the full spectrum of Starma's ridiculousness coming out very soon.
	Yeah, and there's as many as you like of these things.
	I mean, she set the employee target of joining the department's gender non-conforming book club.
	But where it gets particularly sinister is the fact that this was her goal and this was how you got ahead.
	Other activities are participating in discussion of the non-binary corporate network, challenging dated and discriminatory societal gender expression, presentation behaviours, roles or expectations that reinforce the patriarchy.
	In the year of our Lord 2026, this person is in charge of the civil service in our country.
	Yeah, and what was really disturbing is how far, according to these people at least, things were based on this.
	So where does it say?
	Here we go.
	So the DIT was established, Department for International Trade, by Theresa May's administration in 2016.
	Yet former members of staff have accused Dame Antonia of being more concerned with the Department's Stonewall ranking than with promoting UK trade.
	It was her ultimate goal for the Department for International Trade that we receive a high score from gay rights charity Stonewall as the most inclusive government department for transgender and non-binary people.
	And that's why the Conservatives were giving so much money to Stonewall, no doubt.
	Yes, and non-binary people don't exist, by the way.
	A disgruntled former colleague claimed another former member of staff added that Stonewall and Pride Month were very high on Antonia's agenda.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because this is their religion.
	This is exactly the sort of person that needs to be cleared out from the civil service at any level.
	Let alone religion.
	She's now running Starma.
	Operating the robot.
	I mean, so she put things on, she put things on Twitter, X, like, exciting news: TradeGov UK are number 30 in Stonewall's top 100 employers list.
	First at time in top 100.
	Woo woo woo!
	Really proud of the department and our top LGBT network.
	As if that wasn't enough, DIT have also made it onto the list of top trans employers 2020.
	Didn't even know there was such a list.
	God, how are they still here?
	It's incredible, isn't it?
	It is incredible.
	That entire worldview is insane.
	Discredited.
	Discredited.
	And you're kind of override.
	Everyone's like Andrew Loyle in the book, The End of Woke.
	You're sort of sick of talking about it.
	It's like, it's kind of, aren't we over this?
	But no, that's not.
	Even Jimmy the Giants are sick of this.
	Right, right.
	This is all happening still in the bowels of the country.
	So, quite disturbing.
	What else have I got on this?
	Basically, loads of that kind of thing.
	All about.
	But here's a really, there's a really bad part as well, where it says that it was all about getting.
	Let me just find the quote here.
	It said, absolutely.
	Where's the bit?
	Anyway, maybe it's later.
	Oh, yeah.
	A former White Hall source claimed that presenting as non-binary or as an ally enabled colleagues to climb very quickly up the career ladder under Dame Antonio's leadership.
	Oh, and here's the person doing it.
	Here's a non-binary person allegedly in an email.
	This was like someone celebrated, and there was a blog that went out with loads of nonsense in it.
	That's what I'm saying, bro.
	If you want to advance in this company, grow my hair long, shave the beard off.
	Maybe wear a dress.
	I'm just saying.
	This is so damning.
	A former White Hall source claimed that presenting as non-binary or as an ally enabled colleagues to climb very quickly up the career ladder.
	I remember thinking at the time, we're not getting the skill sets we need to deliver effective trade policy.
	Trade policy?
	The Department of International Trade.
	Literally the Stone Toss meme.
	Some burgers.
	Right, right, right.
	So you get the idea.
	And back to back to Steve.
	I'm going through his whole list.
	So that's the queen of woke trans non-binary stuff.
	Senior responsible officer for disastrous MOJ probation privatization costing hundreds of millions.
	Now, this is the Ministry of Justice who came up with this scheme essentially to take less severe crimes and outsource them to private companies to rehabilitate people.
	It was an absolute disaster in terms of outcome and in terms of cost.
	So here in Daily Mail, Keir Starmer warned not to rush through the appointment of a new cabinet secretary as concerned raise over frontrunners' record, including 4 billion per pound probation fiasco.
	This was obviously just before she was appointed.
	And if you look at this, it's pretty bad.
	I mean, there's an article from a while back saying it cost 500 million, but they claim 4 billion.
	But essentially, it was this incredibly wasteful, ridiculous thing.
	Now, it was done by Chris Grayling, but the claim is that she didn't push back.
	Talking about pushing back, Bo and being tough.
	It said she dutifully implemented Chris Grayling's decision, but a number of people felt at the time she could have pushed back hard on that.
	She hung around long enough to implement it, but not to pick up the pieces as the mess developed.
	So this is catastrophic.
	Oh, there was also, she was also blamed for the Ministry of Justice's catastrophic decision to sign a 10-year lease on HMP Dartmoor, costing taxpayers up to 100 million, despite knowing the site had levels of raid on gas.
	So, and the jail's now been closed on safety grounds.
	So, you know, questionable stuff, just questionable record, basically, on all these things.
	Not just the woke stuff, but competence grounds.
	Civil service gen the champion blogged about male allyship, supported Stonewall, campaigns on menopause awareness while leaving MOJ Home Office Department for Trade, leading, sorry, accused of bullying, which we've covered, urged staff to add pronouns, watch trans film Seahorse, don't know what that is, flew the trans flag over HQ, called officials to double down on supporting the BLM agenda as unforgivable.
	Promoted Guardian articles attacking Brexit, literally the most woke you could possibly be.
	She's it.
	I'm getting that impression.
	It's comically whepper woke.
	Yeah, comically woke, yeah.
	And just also just left.
	It's like you're promoting guiding articles attacking Brexit.
	You may have been in the neutral civil service.
	I don't know what role she was in at that point, but allowed civil servants to attend Tai Chi and calligraphy workshops during office hours.
	Well, that's normal.
	They've got those here.
	So that should be.
	Oversaw Brexit Trade Department delivered mostly roll over EU deals, no US deal.
	Led MOJ oversaw overcrowded prisons, which I mentioned, court backlogs, mistaken releases.
	She might be responsible for Lamy's idea to abolish Magna Carta.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Spent 31k of taxpayer money on transatlantic flights, which we covered.
	So she'll now become cabinet secretary.
	This is where I got the thing that Dominic Cummings said is one of the most powerful positions.
	At least she'll be the first female to do the job of fat media will focus on while ignoring the above.
	Thank God.
	And what else?
	And the only other thing I have, which is Alison Pearson agrees that she's been told she's woker than woke, which I think we've proved quite undeniably there.
	What else would she have to do?
	Guess who else loves her?
	Nadeem Zahawi, now of reform.
	Very weird.
	Good appointment.
	Why would he say that?
	Why would you hire this guy if you're reform?
	Why would he say that?
	He's absolute poison for reform.
	He's lost so many supporters of reform because they could go, okay, Generic, okay, Bravman, okay, Danny Kruger.
	Nadeem Zahawi.
	No one likes Nadeem Zaha.
	Dean Dori.
	No one likes her.
	Right.
	Madness.
	And he's causing a liability already because he's saying good appointment.
	He also, I found out you can't really link to retweets, but he retweeted this as well.
	So he doubled down this congratulations.
	He's all day retweeting stuff about how great she is.
	Meanwhile, Richard Tice retweeted this from Stephen Edgington.
	So Tice is a completely different argument.
	And then guess what else?
	Zia Youssef, Starmer has appointed Queen of Woke Antonio Romeo to be the most powerful civil servant, the embodiment of all that's wrong with the blob.
	At DIT, she bombarded staff with weekly emails pushing Transgender Awareness Week by Visibility Day and even recommended watching films about trans parenthood.
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	He talks about all the things we've just covered.
	So Tice and Zia are going, she's terribly woke.
	Nadeem Zahara is like, great appointment.
	No, Zia's not actually attacking woke here, right?
	Because he should.
	I mean, Swella Braveman has said, we're going to get rid of the Equalities Act, which is what all of this is predicated on.
	So he could have come out and said, yeah, well, we're just going to literally abolish the laws that enable her to be ideological like this.
	But instead, he's like, oh, we're going to have 4 billion in cuts to the civil service.
	So that's all staying.
	We're just going to reduce the size of the woke civil service.
	But it's still going to remain woke.
	Like, what do you, why not have the substantive critique at the very bottom of it that is, woke is evil.
	Not the amount of woke is just too much.
	And we're just going to scale that woke back by £4 billion of cuts.
	No, it's still going to be a woke civil service, just smaller.
	This is a terrible response here.
	Yeah, you don't think that's implied by what they're going to do?
	People like Danny Krueger, you just think they've just overfocused on them.
	Danny Kruger is a person who believes in transnational identities.
	Does he?
	Yeah, yeah, he's a sibling.
	Oh, he's a sibnat, yeah.
	And he wrote.
	That's a transnational.
	He wrote, yeah, yeah, true.
	And he wrote the, which I said the other day as well.
	He wrote the Hugger Hoodie speech.
	Well, I think he's changed a bit since.
	But yeah, yeah.
	No.
	And they've got James Orr, who's great.
	I love James Orr.
	Yeah, he's the one good thing about reform, maybe.
	Maybe, Danny.
	But I've raced it because you were worried about how I blistered through mine too quickly, and I've actually ended early.
	So that is my segment.
	This whole thing, man, is just like reform, I think, are just admitting they're a black right party at this point.
	They're just part of the collapsing paradigm.
	I think so.
	And then within that, within that, Zia Yousuf, whatever you think of him, he sometimes comes out with more base stuff, but they've got Nadeem Zahawi, who should never be in there.
	Really?
	And then, yes, and they've got Genric checking his marks with Osborne.
	You've got Swella Brahman, who's one of the better ones, but her speech at the recent press conference reminded me of just 10 years ago.
	It was Michaela School Good.
	I know you got in trouble for having Catherine on being nice for Michaela School Good, and it was trans bad.
	And the audience was like, oh, it's sort of boom audience.
	I was like, agreed, but 10 years ago.
	Yeah.
	That's kind of done.
	Although, as we prove today, it's not done.
	But it's like we need to be moving on to talking about immigration, but they're very much like, hey, woke's bad.
	But anyway, so shall I read some of these or do you want to read them?
	We'll get to them at the end.
	Okay.
	Let's talk about aliens.
	Okay.
	Shall we?
	I need to just move my thing down before we start.
	Just get my notes in a row.
	I don't believe it.
	I'm already before we even begin.
	No.
	Well, it's a mathematical certainty.
	I believe it.
	I believe you, Bob.
	Big fan mathematical certainty.
	We need to talk about aliens today because it's in the news cycle.
	I think because it's a Friday third segment and finally sort of bit of fun, really.
	Or maybe not.
	Maybe it's one of the most serious things in human history.
	The film when Mars Attacks comes down and vaporizes Trump, yeah.
	The legendary sci-fi author, Arthur C. Clarke, he did 2001 Space Odyssey, Childhood End, a number of things.
	Ronde Rui Vrama, one of my favourite sci-fi authors of all time.
	He once said that there's two possibilities.
	Either we are alone in the universe or we are not.
	Both are equally terrifying.
	I don't find being alone terrifying, to be honest.
	No, I see it as opportunity.
	So it's like, right, so we've got the entire universe to colonize.
	Elon Musk's on it.
	Let's go.
	If God's real, it's not terrifying at all.
	But that's the question to me rather than alien.
	But even if it's empty, I still don't find that terrifying.
	Sorry, Gondor.
	Or just to be completely lost and alone in the entire cosmos.
	What do you mean lost?
	We're living on our planet.
	We are lost somewhere between immensity and eternity, aren't we?
	Floating through a meaningful world.
	I don't know.
	I don't feel lost by that.
	I look at it as opportunity.
	Either way, we're either alone or we're not.
	That's the question.
	Barack Obama says we're not.
	Barack Obama says aliens are real.
	Let's just watch this little clip.
	This guy asks him, Are aliens real?
	Uh...
	They're real, but I haven't seen them.
	And they're not being kept in Area 51.
	There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the President of the United States.
	What?
	They very quickly, just very quickly.
	It wasn't a generator.
	Just said, yes, no, no, no, it's real.
	I've seen it.
	This is.
	They're real.
	There you go.
	They're real.
	Says Obama.
	I saw this clip going around.
	I was like, yeah, it was funny anyway.
	Jucked that in at the start.
	But Tucker Castle's always saying it.
	He's always like, I've spoken to serious people on the inside.
	They're totally real.
	He's always saying they're real.
	So for any Zoomers who have grown up with the idea that aliens are real, right?
	Which I think I guess they have because of people like David Ike and stuff like this.
	When you go back to when we were your age, this was ridiculous.
	Anyone who said aliens were real was just laughed out of the room, never taking seriously.
	And like, careers have been ended on people being like, no, guys, I think they are real.
	It's like, right, okay, you're never going to come near us again because you're obviously a bloody lunatic.
	And now you've got Barack Obama.
	It's like, oh, yeah, they're real.
	Well, over the last two years, or more than two years, the US military and the Senate and Congress and various sorts of, you know, the most serious federal bodies there are, have come out and said for quite a few years now and have said, there are unidentified flying objects or unidentified flying phenomenon, UAPs.
	They are definitely real.
	They've shown up on all sorts of our ways to measure and record the skies.
	What they are, we don't know, whether they're from another solar system or whether they're whether they're part of our own secret programs or they're Chinese or Russian.
	We don't know that, but they are there.
	They are real.
	And the US government has been saying that for a couple of years now, just completely openly.
	Ruining all my favourite conspiracies.
	That's what a lot of people went, well, now I don't believe it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The whole angle that all of this is a distraction from whatever, the Epstein files, Ukraine, Iran, whatever it is, it's all just to distract from that.
	Remember that video a few years ago where the guys at the pilots and they just see something move so fast across the sky?
	Yeah.
	The TikTok, Commander Fraver's TikTok.
	You know, way in more detail.
	I mean, you've got the names and TikTok.
	Sorry, did I say TikTok?
	Yes.
	TikTok.
	Yeah.
	so it's all in the news this is loads of also what happened was Obama said that on Saturday and then And then people asked Trump, like, Obama just said aliens are real.
	Can you get comments from?
	Can we get a comment from the current president on that?
	They're totally real.
	I've seen them.
	And he said...
	They like me.
	He said he's never seen them with his own eyes, but he will release loads of documents all about it.
	He'll release all the alien and extra.
	He says that.
	He said that aliens are real.
	Oh, that was Obama saying that, right?
	He said that with JFK and we didn't get...
	Yeah, right.
	Said it with JFK.
	It was only a limited, very, very limited hangout, wasn't it?
	It was really a nothing burger.
	Said about MLK.
	They did everything they could to make the Epstein thing a limited hangout.
	So a number of times in the past, the US government has said we'll release files about it, about disclosure.
	That's what it's called, isn't it?
	Disclosure.
	And they never really do.
	And Trump's now said it again.
	He was on Joe Rogan once, just before he got elected this last time.
	And Joe Rogan asked him about it.
	And he got all a bit cagey.
	Trump did.
	A little bit anyway.
	Just like, we'll have a look at it.
	It's interesting.
	Saying exactly the same things he's saying now, actually.
	It's interesting and people are interested in it, aren't they?
	But I haven't really got an opinion on it.
	That was a quote from him.
	I haven't got an opinion, but we'll release all the documents on it.
	Trump's always got an opinion.
	That's a suspect.
	I would like to invoke my theory of the omni-conspiracy.
	Okay.
	In that every conspiracy is actually the same conspiracy and that there will be aliens in the Epstein files and somehow Epstein has been trafficking young girls to aliens.
	That's why Trump got cagey.
	Suddenly he's just like, well, I mean, you know, I can't talk about the aliens because then I'd be implicating.
	Epstein is really from Alfred Century.
	No, he's a fixer.
	And to aliens, for Alfred's sake.
	Alien fixer.
	Presumably, you know, providing test subjects or something.
	I don't know.
	Did you watch the Bob Lazar documentary?
	That's when I got convinced.
	I was like, definitely real.
	Really, I was like, definitely real.
	Full of shit.
	So my opinion is cynic.
	My opinion on it is that I want to believe.
	I'm open-minded almost to the point of fault.
	But I do need 100% proper, full, slam-dunk, undeniable evidence before I say that we have been visited by beings from another star system.
	That's why.
	And I'm not there.
	I haven't got that.
	Despite the Tic Tac and everything, I'm not there yet.
	Part of me thinks it's an anti-Christian psyop and therefore I don't want to get involved.
	But part of me thinks, but I'm open to it if it is real.
	So I'm sort of, in the way, the most logical here.
	I'm the most...
	I just don't think it's real.
	You don't want to believe and he wants to believe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's the thing, right?
	For a start, like, I really enjoy conspiracy theory channels and stuff.
	They're just entertainment, right?
	It's like, oh, that's fun.
	You know, flat Earth is fun.
	This thing is fun.
	You know, whatever.
	But the second the government comes out and goes, yeah, okay, aliens are real.
	I'm like, okay, stop right there.
	You're full of it.
	That's the I'm similar on that.
	Bigfoot is definitely real.
	I've watched Bigfoot definitely.
	He's real.
	And obviously 9-11 detonating destination.
	But this is the thing.
	I think they're all going to be connected to the same thing.
	But the thing is, I'm much more inclined to believe that this is going to be an AI-generated psyop than it is to be really aliens from another galaxy or another dimension or whatever.
	You know what, since, you know, this thing about not knowing if it's their own weapons or the Chinese, like, the US weapons now, they're discombobulated.
	I mean, that's either a psyopter, like propaganda.
	But the weapons are now so advanced that probably if we saw some of the weapons they had, they would seem alien, right?
	Trump's saying, like, our weapons, we discombobulated.
	The weapons are meant to be so advanced.
	I'm just saying.
	It could be advanced weapons.
	I don't even know if I agree with that because Western science fiction has inspired loads of actual discoveries, right?
	So our imaginations have always been long ahead of what we're actually technically capable of.
	So actually, I think that mentally, we're kind of prepared for really advanced things.
	And actually, technology is kind of underserving the place where we don't see the real technology until you get discombobulated.
	But I would say, what about taking the angle of less trying to not, I'm accusing you of being contrarian, but less sort of trying to counter just what you think is the narrative that's trying to be spun out to you with good faith or not good faith.
	Just is there evidence there or not?
	So, for example, if there was false, just say, imagine there was full slam dunk evidence of a freight saucer landing in the middle of Washington, D.C. You would then accept it if you had okay.
	I mean, if Mars attacks aliens, popped up and you know, take me to your leader.
	Okay, fine.
	I mean, what am I going to say to that?
	So, just a bunch of headlines.
	Trump says he will order the release.
	It's all over the news.
	It is all over the news.
	The telegraph.
	Oh, yeah, he accused Obama of making a big mistake that Obama released classified information just by saying, yes, they're definitely real, and that that was a big mistake.
	That's what Trump has been saying.
	Don't say that.
	Yeah, so again, it suggests, like, why is it then?
	So, what?
	Explain yourself, please.
	Yeah, Trump.
	Things are complicated enough without bloody introducing aliens into the mix, man.
	Just that's what I was talking about.
	I mean, as we looked around, we noticed that we saw some whitewater.
	I'll just say this is Commander Favreau.
	Yes, he was flying an F-18 off the west coast of America.
	Off our right side, it's important to note that the weather on this day was as close to perfect as you could ask for off the coast of San Diego.
	Clear skies, light winds, calm seas, no white caps from waves.
	So the whitewater stood out in a large blue ocean.
	All four of us, because we were an F-18F, so we had pilots and Wizzo in the back seat, looked down a small, saw a white tic-tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball.
	There were no rotors, no rotor wash, or any sign of visible control surfaces like wings.
	As we started clockwise towards the object, my Wizo and I decided to go down and take a closer look at the other aircraft staying in high cover to observe both us and the Tic-Tac.
	We proceeded around the circle about 90 degrees and the start of our descent.
	The object suddenly shifted its longitudinal axis, aligned it with my aircraft, and began to climb.
	Our altitude at this point was about 15,000 feet, and the tic-tac was about 12,000.
	As we pulled nose onto the object within about a half mile of it, it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared.
	Our wingmen, roughly 8,000 feet above us, lost contact also.
	We immediately turned back to see where the whitewater was at, and it was gone also.
	As we looked around, we noticed that we saw.
	So, the tic-tac incident is something for me that comes close to full evidence because you'd have to assume that I think three different ways of seeing it and measuring it was done from the aircraft carrier.
	And multiple fast jet pilots who are good witnesses all say they saw it.
	And there was one little bit in there where he said it disappeared off into the distance quickly.
	I mean, way quicker than any conventional craft we know of could have done.
	So either all those instruments were faulty, and you can't believe the testimony of the fast jet pilots.
	Yeah, I haven't seen that.
	I'd seen the original.
	We can hear them talking in the craft.
	They're going, whoa, what's that?
	It seemed incredibly realistic.
	It's also this.
	It's only 30 seconds.
	Let's quickly.
	This is what I watch.
	Let's quickly watch it.
	Now, some say this.
	I didn't know it had a whole name, I didn't know, you know, the TikTok.
	Woohoo!
	Uh, there's a shooting shooting.
	What the f*** is that, man?
	Can you box with a target?
	No, I took an auto track.
	Uh, okay.
	Okay.
	Oh, my gosh, dude.
	Wow.
	All right, so a few things to say about that before we talk about it.
	Well, I think it's being viewed from a long way away.
	First of all, it looks like it's moving very, very fast across the surface of the ocean, but that could be parallax.
	Well, that's the thing.
	whole perspective of it is odd and there's this this thing of parallax isn't it with different uh i mean like someone like thunderfoot blunderfoot um says that that's obviously a bird you know That's obviously just a bird flying.
	And you must be out of your mind to think it's anything from another world.
	I mean, maybe.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	I think pilots should be used to seeing birds.
	Right.
	I don't think it's a bird, but I'm not saying it's a thing from another world.
	Right.
	Depends if China counts as another world.
	Chinese weapons is the most disturbing.
	So as much as I want to believe, I still maintain I need something better than even that.
	I need something better than just Commander Fraver saying he saw it, I'm afraid.
	I mean, I've watched podcasts on practically every UFO encounter you can imagine, right?
	And the Roswell one was honestly one of the most persuasive because some farmer came out and was like, oh, look, there's a big trail of debris here.
	Picked up a bunch of them pieces of metal and just like, you know, they bent and they were springy and you could fold them up and then they just spring back perfectly in shape.
	It's like, okay, we don't have materials that can do that, actually.
	So he's got like all these weird materials and he's like, oh, yeah, and I saw these bodies.
	And then the military just turned up.
	And the thing is, initially it was reported in the papers because it was in like 1947 or something.
	And then suddenly the narrative changes completely and it's like, nope, nothing happened.
	It was a weather balloon.
	And so it's just like, right.
	How do you feel about the it's humans in the future who have evolved time traveling?
	They're more persuasive than it's someone from the other side of the galaxy, frankly.
	That's quite persuasive.
	So not aliens.
	No, well, you know, they're future humans who've learnt time travel.
	And that's why they've got bigger brains and big fingers and stuff like that.
	That's why they're not hostile.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Then I have one other theory I've forgotten.
	It's pot time head, so carry on and I'll try and remember it.
	There's lots of arguments to say why it isn't visitors from another star system.
	There are plenty and plenty of arguments for that.
	But I just remain open-minded to it.
	The thing is, the United States government has, again, over the last few years, I mean, look, this is back from 2023, a number of articles I've got here that just, they just, they're doing like some sort of slow-burn disclosure.
	It's seen.
	What about the idea they're in a different realm, like the Clockwork Elves?
	The Clockwork Elves.
	I don't know what Clockwork Elves.
	You know what about the Clockwork Elves?
	You're not seeing the Clockwork Elves.
	I don't know that.
	That's an Alex Jones thing.
	Yeah.
	When people take DMT, which I would never would, it's just clockwork elves.
	There's different levels.
	There's these higher ones, Alex.
	There's the higher ones, and then there's the lower ones, which are the Clockwork Elves, who are not maybe that nice.
	And you see them, you don't really want to see them.
	Not very friendly.
	No, but people see them.
	Lots of different people have seen them on DMT.
	So they're real, but they're just in a different dimension we can't access normally.
	Right, okay.
	I'm not into drug use.
	I would like to visit Joe Rogan and do DMT in a flotation tank with him and share that experience.
	That would be nice.
	Joe, hit me up.
	Love to do that.
	That's on my bucket list.
	What if I saw the clockwork elves?
	I don't know, but you mentioned David Icke, didn't you?
	The interdimensional lizard people.
	I didn't mention David Dyke.
	I mentioned Dyke.
	Oh, you mentioned David Dyke.
	Okay, all right.
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	But the thing is, is that the actual federal government, like the UFO transparency hearings they've had, and the whole committee's whole stuff.
	And there's this concept really of the disclosure project or disclosure movement.
	The thing is, a lot of extremely credible, very, very, very high-level people over many, many years, people that are like admirals, people like Barack Obama have come out and said, yeah, there's stuff out there and we don't know what it is.
	It's not necessarily from another star system, but there's stuff in our skies and the oceans, and we've got no idea what it is.
	That's a matter of record.
	Yes.
	I mean, what's really interesting about it, they have these UFO conferences, right?
	They've been having them for decades.
	Yeah, Robert Williams goes to them.
	And then, yeah, and yeah, and so did Dan Aykroyd.
	He was a massive one of these.
	But they're really boring, and they're really badly recorded.
	So, you know, it's in some big room, you know, like a ballroom hall or something, and you'll get some very normal looking guy, and he'll come up and say, hello, my name is Commander David Smith, and I have a degree in molecular biology.
	I have a degree in nuclear physics and a PhD in experimental physics.
	I was an airplane pilot for 30 years, and I saw this, It's really, really boring.
	And everyone would give polite golf claps.
	And that's it.
	And it's like, is he a non-credible witness?
	Am I going like, oh, there's, oh, look, he's a raving lunatic.
	What is it about UFO people and bad recordings?
	Yeah.
	Why can't they just get infant hunting, you know?
	But these conferences, I've watched loads of them.
	They've gone for hours and they're really boring.
	They're that boring if you watch them.
	I find they're fascinating usually.
	No, no, they're really boring.
	But it's because I'm not bored by the content, right?
	I'm interested in knowing, okay, what was this pilot's exact experience?
	What was this Navy, you know, I commanded it, I was in the Admiral of the fleet or whatever, and this is what I saw.
	It's like, okay, you know, the way they present the information is very boring, but the information itself, I'm trying to actually figure out why I shouldn't take these people seriously.
	Because they are very well credentialed.
	That's what Tucker said.
	He goes, I've known some serious military people.
	They tell me it's real.
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	He describes some things they've seen.
	So when Tucker said that, I was like, all right, more evidence.
	I'm fairly convinced.
	The weird thing is, it doesn't make any much difference to your life.
	I watched Pro Bazaar.
	I was like, that's real.
	That doesn't mean anything.
	You still just carry on.
	Well, what's the immigration problem?
	I'm still going to go to work on Monday, pay my taxes.
	Kind of weird how it doesn't change anything.
	Yeah.
	Well, what choice have you got, really, though?
	I mean, exactly.
	I mean, what I love about this, though, adherents of the disclosure movement have variously predicted that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, or Pope Lear are on the verge of initiating disclosure.
	Well, you can change that Wikipedia page to they have correctly predicted that Obama and Trump have initiated disclosure.
	Because, I mean, literally, Obama and Trump are just like, yeah, aliens are real.
	Chalk this up as a win, lads.
	To me, has disclosure happened?
	It sounds like it's kind of happened.
	Hasn't it?
	That's what they're saying.
	Yeah.
	Obama.
	And Trump.
	Big mistake.
	Yeah.
	Maybe a slight tangent, but to me, I don't know if you watch near-death experiences.
	To me, they're far more important because it seems as though people, they're completely, their brain, dead, their body's been shut down for like 47 minutes.
	But they can move around.
	They go to heaven quite a lot of them.
	They can see their own body.
	Things like that.
	Near-death experiences are unbelievable.
	The amount of data and so many people have similar experiences.
	They have life reviews where they go through their whole life and things they did right and wrong.
	And there's so many similar accounts of people who couldn't possibly have brain activity.
	And they're so similar.
	To me, that's like, it's not just cranks.
	I was like, this is a serious thing.
	And presumably some people had this experience in the past, but nowhere near because of technology, we can actually find out, oh, you're dead, but you carry on.
	To me, that's the most significant thing.
	But everyone's obsessed with aliens.
	But to me, that's more significant.
	Because if that's true, then your spirit carries on after death.
	That's a pretty big deal.
	Well, one argument I would have just segment on it.
	Yeah.
	There's so many arguments to be made where we haven't been visited by advanced civilizations from other star systems.
	Okay, there's loads of it.
	That even the footage we've got, it's just a bird.
	And it's just the odd parallax effect.
	But there is a couple of arguments, sort of broader, maybe more meta-arguments.
	The idea that if the universe, if the cosmos is infinite, that it becomes a mathematical certainty that there are advanced civilizations somewhere else, even quite possibly in our own galaxy, certainly in other galaxies.
	And then another argument which gives like I put a lot of weight in, is that throughout human history, or at least recorded human civilization, people have always thought that there's nothing sort of much beyond them.
	You know, you get Aboriginal peoples, and they often think they're the only people in the world until they've shown that they're not.
	And that we think that there's no other continents in the world until we find out there are, and it's filled with people.
	Whenever our horizons broaden, before sorry, rather, before our horizons broaden, we think we're alone.
	And then, whenever they broaden, we realize we're not.
	Just take that to like a cosmic level, onto a galactic or intergalactic level.
	I don't know.
	I still do just need some full, completely undeniable evidence.
	You want to see one of the little blokes?
	Well, I'm going to need to.
	It's come out a completely chip.
	We're going to have to hang around the deep south more or around Groom Lane.
	So Nevada.
	Yeah.
	That's a great point, actually.
	There are maps of UFO sightings.
	Because if this was the case, why would it be culturally specific, right?
	So you have maps of UFO sightings and they begin in a particular time period and in particular places.
	So you've got like areas of the world that just never get any UFO sightings and have never had them.
	And the areas of the world that do have them, it's very culturally tuned to modernity.
	Right, you have Lowe's in Phoenix, Arizona, and none in Siberia or something.
	Exactly.
	None in the south.
	Exactly.
	I've seen him.
	And so actually, it takes on the aspect of a kind of modern mythology rather than necessarily a true phenomenon, right?
	And I mean, you know, you're relying on the eyewitness reports of people who literally don't know anything a lot of the time.
	So it's just like, okay, I mean.
	Like the eyewitness testimony to go back to Frayo again, the eyewitness testimony of that, it's hard to discount.
	I'm not saying that.
	Just say he's just a liar.
	I'm not saying I'm saying, but some people do.
	He's just lying.
	You can't, he's just making it up for clout to be famous.
	I don't think so.
	No, nothing indicates that.
	Nothing indicates that.
	Here's my question, Bo.
	It's more of a Lazar question.
	How desperate to see aliens are you?
	Would you accept them molesting you with the probe and everything?
	But then you got proof, but you've been probed.
	I would have to accept that, wouldn't I?
	How much do you want to see this?
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Is it worth it?
	No, not you.
	No, no, I'll go on living as I am.
	Thank you.
	Are you really going to tell people, yeah, I got probed by aliens there?
	If that happened to me, I'm like, I think I'm just going to keep that to myself.
	Yeah, why it's not right?
	Yeah, I just don't want to be that's why you don't see them in England.
	We're too sensible.
	We go, oh, that's probably nothing.
	I probably just there are.
	What is he saying?
	But less than the American Deep Real.
	Rendlesham Forest examples.
	Yeah, Rendlesham Forest is one.
	My theory is it would happen less because one, like Scrooge would just say that you're probably just a bit of undigested potato or something.
	You would dismiss it.
	And then the other thing would probably say is, oh, I'm not telling anyone about that probe because I'm English.
	And then the problem I have with all this is you get into, okay, the implications are kind of catastrophic.
	Because suddenly it's like, okay, well, oh, aliens exist.
	Well, then they're going to have their own philosophies, religions, or maybe they're the same thing.
	But there's also going to be some sort of intergalactic politics that go on.
	There's going to be all sorts of levels of understanding of the universe that we don't understand, but will have in the same way that the Amazonian Aboriginals are impacted by our technology.
	Well, that's going to happen to us.
	And we're going to be struggling with whatever new discoveries we have that are going to just completely change everything.
	I'm like, oh, man.
	You're worried that they're going to be leftists with like leftism.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not worried about that at all.
	I'm worried that we will learn something from them that basically just destroys our civilization, frankly.
	It ruins everything.
	Maybe, I don't know.
	It could be literally anything.
	But I am a bit worried of just, oh, here's like actually like when, like with the people in the new world, like they know how things are, and then suddenly the Spanish conquistadors turn up.
	Well, everything changes then.
	So, right, so actually, you're in the middle of a great power game of international empires that are far more powerful than you, and everything's about to change, and maybe millions of you die.
	So, like, I just don't really want to discover aliens for the pragmatic reasons.
	It may well not go well.
	I mean, I've watched films.
	I've just paid my taxes, man.
	I don't want aliens.
	Not this.
	Notice the dad going, oh, I have an allergy.
	In the history of human civilization, the weaker of the powers, it never works out very well for them.
	Exactly.
	But there's the idea, the Fermi paradox.
	We look out onto the cosmos.
	Unless they've got the intergalactic fire.
	What if they're stronger?
	What if they're rubbish aliens?
	They somehow visit us, but they're kind of.
	They're literally the Italians of the we've got better technology.
	They're the Ethiopians and we just beat them.
	Yeah.
	Well, they come from a much bigger planet with much higher gravity, so they're only that big.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the Fermi paradox.
	We look out on the cosmos.
	It appears to be empty.
	What explains that, really?
	And there's dozens of different explanations for that.
	One might be the one I sort of think is that there's like the zoo hypothesis that they see us and they deliberately keep us just in our own little cage and just observe us because that's the best for them and us.
	I mean, honestly, that's the most optimistic.
	Right, yeah.
	Because there are the really dark versions of the dark forest hypothesis.
	Right.
	Anyone who setting signals into space just gets eaten by the tyrannids or something.
	And it's just like, so everyone's just shuts up and makes sure they don't keep broadcasting their location to other people.
	So it's just like, okay.
	I mean, it could be that.
	We've already got a 60, 70 year bubble of radio going out from the earth.
	So that's already high fucking might literally be on its way now.
	And Obama's like, yeah, aliens are real.
	I haven't seen it.
	It's all because people became godless.
	That's the problem.
	They're looking for meaning in the wrong places.
	It's kind of annoying to me because it's like you haven't solved these much bigger, these are much more important questions whether God is real, not whether aliens are real.
	It's secondary to me, but hey, I suppose it would change everything.
	But I just don't want aliens, man.
	I can tolerate God being real.
	Yeah.
	Aliens, no thanks.
	I'm just an evidence guy.
	If there's no evidence, I'll remain skeptical and won't go on record saying, I think aliens from other worlds have definitely visited us.
	I'm not going to say that.
	Well, I can't.
	But when there is.
	I'm going to clip that now and it looks like you can't.
	But if and when there is evidence, I will accept it.
	I will admit it.
	Yeah, right.
	All I'm saying is, I want this Wikipedia page updated.
	So you've got all of these people and also Donald Trump and Barack Obama.
	From saying it was a big mistake, so funny.
	He shouldn't have said there's big mistakes.
	State secrets.
	I feel like I do feel.
	I am kind of of the theory that because the way the president always changes as soon as they get in, okay, partly it's the reality of power.
	But I do think they get the conversation and they're shown horrific things or just crazy things.
	They're showing the aliens.
	They're showing everything.
	Bill Hicks said.
	Yeah, like exactly like Bill Hicks said.
	I wasn't going to say it, but exactly what I was saying.
	It's like, that's what I think happens.
	And that's why Tom gets said, well, get the JFK files and they show him it.
	And he goes, like Bill Hicks always says, a different angle you haven't seen.
	They show them the aliens, and they go, but you can't talk about it because of X, Y, and so.
	Well, I told a little anecdote this morning.
	I'll say it again about Jimmy Carter in the 70s.
	He became president.
	And he said, I want to see everything that there is to know about Area 51 and aliens and everything.
	And the Pentagon said, you need, you haven't got as president, you haven't got clearance to do that.
	You need to apply for the clearance.
	So he did, and they turned him down.
	He was refused clearance.
	It says no to the president.
	They probably knew he wasn't going to be in very long, Carter.
	But that is shocking, isn't it?
	Yeah, because it's the permanent government, as David Hike does say, is the permanent bureaucracy of the deep state.
	They're like, oh, we've seen those ones come and go.
Why Cats Outrank Dogs 00:07:28
	That's weird.
	There you go.
	Obama says aliens are real.
	Take it or leave it.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	Just don't want them, man.
	I just don't want aliens.
	They probably won't come to Swindon.
	No, I'm not saying they're going to come to Swindon.
	But then you say that.
	Why not?
	They're going to go anywhere else.
	But there's going to be an internet cult based around that.
	You're going to get sexualization of aliens.
	Then you're going to get all sorts of weird.
	I just, I'm not for it.
	Let's go.
	Further to Tuesday's section on the very welcome collapse of Beyond Meat and Harry's observations of his wife's improvements since she gave up vegetarianism, I'd like to go one step further.
	A friend of mine said that he was vegetarian not because he objects to meat, but rather to the slaughter of animals.
	He claimed he'd be happy eating lab-grown meat.
	Then he said something that shocked me.
	He said he'd quite happily eat human meat if it were lab-grown.
	I think vegetarians have such twisted morals that they're actually evil.
	Well, that's disgusting, but how would it be human if it was lab-grown?
	It starts from human cells.
	And then they clone it or something.
	That's horrible.
	That's disgusting.
	Sick.
	It's an odd conclusion to come to, isn't it?
	I was against lab-grown meat of all kinds, but especially humans.
	But this is the problem if you have sort of like a monodimensional moral compass, right?
	This is the sole measure of right and wrong.
	And therefore, well, as long as it wasn't slain, I can eat it.
	So if you lab-grow a bunch of human meat, well, it wasn't slain.
	It's like, okay, but there are other things to consider here.
	I'm sorry.
	When it comes to vegetarianism, I lived as a vegetarian for a few years, meaning in my late teens, because I was just on my high horse.
	And then eventually I came to terms with the fact that I'm quite selfish and brutal as a human being and I like bacon.
	Some pigs have got a diet for me to have bacon and gammon and whatever, so be it.
	I mean, just we used to know that we had dominion dominion over the animals.
	It was all there in the Bible, but now we've abandoned it all.
	I've just gone really hardcore because you guys are such atheists.
	I've just decided to go hardcore because I'm sick of it.
	You know what?
	These people always end up hating humans, like vegans.
	They're always like, don't worry about the animals, but they never care about abortion.
	They love abortion.
	So it's not just like this neutral.
	Maybe that guy was quite rational, like ultra-rational.
	A lot of them just hate humans and love animals.
	For me, being a meat eater is basically Nietzschean.
	It's like, no, I'm confirming that I'm at the top of the food chain here.
	Unapologetically.
	Yeah, unapologetically, no, I'm going to kill the animal.
	I'm going to eat the animal because I am the human and it is not.
	That is basically the same as what I said, but in a slightly more brutally expressed way.
	Except dominion over the animals is that's what it is.
	Yeah, yeah, but this, but the issue with Nietzsche is a bit more complex.
	But anyway, I'll leave that.
	My love of steak.
	I realized my guilt for murdering animals.
	I'm morally obligated to eat the steak to confirm the hierarchy.
	Yeah, it's also what, yeah, you're right.
	It's what happens in nature.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And to prove that we're at the top of the hierarchy.
	I get it.
	You guys are all psychos is what I'm realizing.
	Dan said he eye on the dark triad, and you guys sound like Nietzschean psychopaths.
	Only when it comes to hunting buffalo or something, like we've got to hunt the animals.
	I mean, even the American Indians ate them, didn't it?
	As long as they like used every part of the buffalo or whatever, it's part of the circle of life and all that.
	But they were hippies.
	I never spoke.
	I've eaten nothing but meat at this point, and I'm feeling great.
	Everyone should eat nothing but meat.
	Yeah.
	Turning into a Mongol step archer.
	Beef and lamb.
	Sorry.
	I was doing, you know, John Peterson was like, I eat beef and lamb.
	I have apple cider vinegar.
	I can't sleep for 16 days.
	I just think of Ace Ventura.
	None of this animal goes to waste.
	You know that Ace Ventura too?
	Okay, we've got to kill a zebra, but none of it goes to waste.
	Okay.
	I would eat a zebra.
	Let's go to the next video.
	And now another white pill moment with Sakura.
	Yes, this one's for Harry and Bo.
	Because this way I can give you both what you want.
	Harry asked for a cat video, and Bo enjoys the dog videos.
	Well, the nice thing about the Shiba Inu, they're the cat of the dog family.
	Does have kind of feline bearing to it, doesn't it?
	He's got very cute dogs.
	I'd love to give that dog a cuddle.
	Are you a dog or cat?
	Dog, big time.
	Love dogs.
	Grew up with dogs.
	Don't trust cats.
	I'm exactly the same.
	What about you, Carl?
	I've got six cats.
	I knew you were going to be cat.
	No, no, no, hang on, Anne.
	I didn't consent to take cats, right?
	I see you're cucked to cats.
	My wife brings home a kitten and she dumps it on my lap and they're tiny adorable and they're purring.
	They look cute then and they're very cute.
	And I mean, what am I supposed to do?
	Like, I've got as hard a heart as anyone can expect.
	But there's a Nietzschean about it.
	A tiny, purring kitten that's been taken away from its mum and it's lost and loaned and I'm like, okay, fine, we'll keep it.
	You know, give it strokes and it purrs and it's very attached to me.
	And then all the cats love me and not my wife.
	She eats it.
	But I like dogs as well.
	You know, I like, I like dogs are the kings, not cats.
	I do like more like a cat.
	It's not really true, to be honest.
	Well, they're just my, I just much prefer a dog.
	I think they're just good, good people, good people, whereas cats are just right.
	I'm not saying cats are good.
	Cats are definitely evil.
	But they are, again, there's something kind of aristocratic about the cats.
	They have a really high opinion of themselves.
	I certainly live more like a cat because they're loners, but I have the loyalty of a dog, so I prefer.
	I prefer the loyalty of a dog.
	I do like kind, nice cats.
	I don't like cats that won't let you walk up the stairs.
	Or cats that look at you like, if I was 200 pounds, I would kill you and eat you right now.
	I don't like that in my house.
	Every cat is like that.
	If you were someone.
	Some are affectionate and they wouldn't kill a mouse if they could.
	Something like that, aren't they?
	No.
	And they'd all kill their owners if they could.
	All those cat layers.
	Yeah, if you were mouse-sized, your cat would just kill you.
	It'd play with them and kill you.
	I'm sorry.
	You've got six of them in your house.
	I know.
	I know.
	You could team up.
	I know.
	They've got to learn that I'm the one who's bigger.
	That's the thing.
	Most domestic dogs are ultra-loyal and affectionate, aren't they?
	Mostly.
	So what's not to love about them?
	Exactly.
	I think you could struggle.
	If six cats went for you at once, you could struggle to fight them off.
	You'd definitely incur some damage at very least.
	I'd be scratched and bleeding, doubtless.
	But a cat weighs a couple of pounds.
	So you'd be bashing them.
	Yeah, you'd win.
	I'm not saying you'd lose.
	You could snap their back easily.
	You could just crush them with your hands.
	They're not Chinese.
	Come on.
	They're not big, strong animals.
	They've just got sharp claws, which is annoying.
	But once you're bleeding a few times, okay, well, you know, you've got to get it done, right?
	Turn and pull this one.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't want to do that, obviously, so my cat...
	I didn't want to do any of this.
	Calm with his bloodbath.
	Why is coming soon?
	If I come home and my cats have laid a trap for me and they're all coordinating, they start leaping at me.
	It'll be quite a surprise.
	But I'm like, oh, no.
	I knew this day was coming, right?
	You wanted this because she brought them home.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I knew this day was coming.
	And all I'm saying is psychologically, I prepared for it.
	And I didn't want this to be the.
	I didn't hesitate for a second.
	I prepared for it.
	They started it.
	They drew first blood.
	Cats, how are you doing?
	I've always been so kind to you.
	I'm so kind to the cats.
	They love me and not my wife.
	I have to destroy the cats.
	Oh, you mean you went to the vet?
	No.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Well, it's a woman who walks at the shaggy brown dog.
	And she said to me, I was going to vote for Nigel Farage.
	She said, I thought he was wonderful.
	She said, but now she said, I'm going for, oh, God, what's his name again?
Rupert Lowe's Reach 00:02:33
	Rupert Lowe.
	And so she knew about him.
	Oh, yes, she knew about him.
	How old is she?
	About my age.
	And you're 71.
	Yes.
	And she knows she's a bit old.
	And she already knows about him.
	Oh, she already knows about him, yes.
	Thanks, mum.
	Facebook.
	Rupert Lowe's got a massive reach on Facebook.
	So the argument that no one knows who Rupert Lowe is.
	No one's ever heard of him.
	It's a purely online phenomenon, they tell me.
	But the thing is, boomers are on Facebook.
	Yeah, they're online.
	And they're very uncritical about the content they consume.
	AI Slop is one-shotting them, but so is Rupert Lowe's.
	Farm video.
	Yeah, farm video.
	Yeah.
	Let's go to the next one, that's
	very wholesome.
	Very.
	And beautiful windows and light coming in.
	Amazing.
	I'm still hung up on why I now have to kill all of my cats.
	Why have they been plotting against me?
	Bit nervous about getting home tonight, to be honest.
	Let's go to the next one.
	I wanted to sample other Heimline works and so read Time Enough for Love.
	A man born in the late 1800s has lived for thousands of years and become tired of life.
	His family have him in the 1001 night style tell his stories to restore his interest in living.
	He's the progenitor of a huge family across the galaxy where ultra-long life requires science advanced to the point where inbreeding is controlled at the genetic level.
	Eventually he desires to go back in time to see his first family.
	Succeeding, he gets caught up in World War One.
	It is here the story deals with themes of love most intricately and unfortunately most incestuously.
	Yeah, I've read that.
	I was about to read it until that last sentence.
	No, I'm not sure.
	I say read it.
	I listened to the audio book whilst playing computer games.
	But yeah, it's good.
	Most I've listened to four or five or six different headline books.
	They're all great.
	They're all great.
	There's a reason why he's considered a master.
	Wow.
	I just read C.S. Lewis's Ransom Tudor, but I'm going to read this now.
	Excuse me.
	Do Starship Troopers.
	It's much better than the film.
	Next video?
	It is.
	So last week, the Prime Minister of Australia invited the Israeli President to come over to hand these condolences to the victims of the Bondi attack.
Hostile Abandonment 00:02:36
	It would shock absolutely no one that the pro-Palestinian protest came in mass.
	And despite being allowed to march, provided the route that the authorities gave them, they rejected this outright and tried to overwhelm police, which of course led to the police having no choice but to brutally crush down on the protesters.
	Honestly, everybody in Australia is just sick of these pro-Palestinian protests.
	We're sick of them here too, if that helps.
	can you be thoroughly against them and not be pro netanyahu yeah yes you can and i am Yeah.
	I'll go through a few comments.
	Sorry, we're overrunning a little bit here.
	Speaking of lab growing meat, you ever notice that they don't tell you what kind of cells they use?
	Yeah, that's a good point, actually.
	If aliens invaded, we call them AI-generated.
	I would.
	I would be a denier.
	I would literally be a hardcore denier.
	Morgoth proven once more correct about his thesis on woke North Korea.
	Yeah, that's a great point.
	So Morgoth was like, it looks like the rest of the world is probably going to abandon woke, and yet we will be stuck with Kier Starmer and his ultra-woke government, like some kind of woke North Korea.
	And yeah, that's actually coming around, actually.
	People outside of Britain can join Restore Britain.
	Yeah, but you should really.
	If you're not British, don't join.
	This is a political party.
	You don't want allegations of foreign influence and things like this.
	It's a nativist party for the natives.
	So if you are a native, join.
	But if you are a well-wisher, just keep raising awareness, I guess.
	And thank you.
	Apparently, Razor Fist spoke about me on stream.
	I'll talk about that later.
	Crank Text and says, Trojan Horse is a great metaphor for the Greens.
	The danger is not conquest by force.
	The danger is conquest by invitation.
	Yeah, I mean, it literally is like a Trojan horse party.
	That's literally the case.
	Enemy within the gates.
	Yeah.
	After what's been done to our countries, our peoples, and how much of our children's future have been given away to hostile foreigners, how can we not look back in anger?
	How can we not look ahead in rage?
	Well, if I'm to be governed by a gap-tooth retard, I'd rather it be Frankie McDonald than Zach Polanski.
	Who's Frankie McDonald's?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, the sentiment is we don't want Zach Polanski, yes.
	Yeah.
	I'm an Orthodox Jew and genuinely thinking about voting Restore.
	Worth it to pay more for imported kosher meat if England is saved.
	Well, that's the right attitude, right?
	Anyway, we're out of time, so join us in half an hour for Lad's Hour, where we're going to be having the ideal cabinet made up of all of the people we'd like on social media.

Chapters

00:00:00 Future Bifurcation of British Politics
00:04:09 Political Campaign Ads
00:19:00 Matt's Climate Poll Critique
00:33:06 Government Underlings Being Bullied
00:49:04 Believe In Clockwork Elves
01:06:13 High-Level UFO Claims
01:08:24 Why We Want Aliens
01:18:23 Why Cats Outrank Dogs
01:25:52 Rupert Lowe's Reach
01:28:26 Hostile Abandonment