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Epstein Files Unveiled 00:14:39
	Good afternoon, folks.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters for Monday, the 2nd of February, 2025.
	Today I'm joined by Harry and Ferras, and we are going to do a deep dive into what has been revealed from the Epstein files.
	We're going to be talking about who is implicated and how, as far as we can tell, what are the depths of the depravity that have been revealed?
	And what are the political connections that are also exposed by all of this?
	And honestly, I think that's the more interesting part, believe it or not, because actually, in much of the other stuff that has been revealed, there's a lot of things that are confirmed, but we kind of already knew it.
	And it's actually in the political angle that we didn't know the extent of Epstein's connections and his role as a facilitator, which actually was really fascinating, frankly.
	Before we go on, we will be talking about things that are difficult to talk about.
	Controversial.
	Controversial.
	And not our opinion, but the opinions of the people who we are reporting on.
	So just to be clear, we do not endorse anything that is in these files.
	We don't want to have to go into terrible depth in them.
	We're going to try and use euphemisms where we can to spare you the worst of it.
	So anyway, right, let's begin.
	Just one more thing.
	Half an hour after the show, we're talking about the possible bombing of Iran and what it means on Real Politic.
	And there will be an Epstein angle there as well.
	Really had fingers in every pie imaginable, by the sounds of it.
	Genuinely shocking.
	Yeah.
	Let's begin.
	And that's the truth.
	So the first question: we've done a number of episodes in the past on this show about who Epstein was, all of the history of these Epstein files following his death whilst in federal custody in the United States in New York.
	So we don't need to go over all of that ground again.
	There's a huge drop of these files over the weekend.
	That was about 3 million new pages have been dropped alongside 180,000 images and 2,000 videos, which I think brings the total amount of files released by the US government, the Department of Justice, following the whole Epstein scandal and Donald Trump's new administration into about 3.5 million files.
	So what that means is that, frankly, just for any one individual or even for a team of people, it is almost impossible to go through the whole thing.
	Certainly impossible to have gone through the entire thing by now.
	We're only two days out from all of these dropping.
	So information is still being filtered through as we are speaking.
	There could be more revelations as people online investigate what's in there and take real deep dives and make connections between what we find in there.
	But for right now, the question is going to be who is implicated?
	Who's actually implicated in these new files?
	Is there anybody new who's been implicated who we didn't know about before?
	Is there any new information that we can take from them and any new connections that we can make as well?
	Now, when you go to the scandalous, sordid details that are in there, because there is plenty of that, Carl is going to be covering some of that.
	Firaz, yep, he offered, he volunteered, so that's on him.
	Well, I felt I had to take the worst of it.
	I can't be like, right, Harry, this is your business.
	Have a good sleep tonight, you know?
	Well, I mean, I mean, I'm going to have to sit through it.
	I know you are.
	It doesn't really save me anything of it.
	Yeah, no, I thought I'd fallen.
	And Firaz is going to be covering the political stuff.
	So let's just go over a surface-level look at who is that we know of implicated right now in these new document drops.
	One thing to note as well is the files are including Jeffrey Epstein's time in prison, including a psychological report.
	There's some very interesting documents in there and his death while incarcerated, along with investigative records on Ghislaine, Ghillan, however you pronounce her name, Maxwell, Epstein's associate, who is also convicted of helping him traffic these girls.
	They say in this article, it's uncertain if this is the end of the road for the Epstein documents saga, mainly because as many documents as we have right now, some officials are indicating we may only have about half of all of the total documents that they have.
	And they're saying that the ones that have been released are the ones that are most relevant for public consumption, and that the ones that have been withheld also include a lot of things that are unfit for public consumption, including a lot of adult material and things like CP that you don't want to be floating about on the internet and give people direct access to on the government website.
	But the assistant attorney, Deputy Attorney General in America, Blanche, has said that Friday's drop marks the end of a very comprehensive document identification and review process, which signals that as far as the US Justice Department is concerned, its job is over.
	Democrats are still going to be using this as a cudgel to try and beat the Republicans with coming up to the midterms later this year.
	But from what we can see thus far, this is what we're getting.
	That is liable to change in the future, however, given how many times this administration has, frankly, flip-flopped on this issue.
	So we'll see if anything new comes out in the future.
	But let's just get on with who is in there.
	So we've got a lot of people who we already know, who we already knew were heavily involved with Epstein and have already, frankly, had their careers ruined through their association with Epstein.
	So there are a number of new emails released as part of this.
	And that's where a lot of this is focusing on as well, by the way.
	A lot of it is the emails.
	If you go onto the website, which I'll fix that, we'll go on to here.
	You have to, one, you have to sign here saying that you are 18 or older.
	Very, very in-depth age-checking process there.
	You just click yes.
	And then you scroll down.
	And this was all as a result of Thomas Massey's bill that got passed the Epstein's discovery stuff.
	And it means that as part of that, you are able to now search for people's names, any identifying key terms that you want to look for.
	And you've got access to all of it through these links as well.
	But what most people are focusing on for a lot of the juicier details is the emails where a lot of this information is coming from.
	So these emails are between Epstein and a man called the Duke.
	Everybody is assuming the former Duke of York, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the now disgraced former Prince Andrew, where they discussed having dinner at Buckingham Palace, where there was lots of privacy.
	Messages between the two of them, including an offer to introduce the Duke to a 26-year-old Russian woman.
	Emails are signed with A, where the signature appears to read HRH Duke of York, KG.
	They were exchanged in August of 2010, two years after Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor.
	There are also emails they say here between Epstein and Mountbatten Windsor, dated February of 2011, which is actually after the time in interviews where Andrew had said he had cut off contact with the two of them.
	One of the things that you'll notice throughout all of these, even in the non-incriminating conversations that Epstein was having with a lot of people at this time, is that a lot of them overlapped with his time in prison for his first conviction in 2008 when he got a very sweetheart deal for the trafficking and prostitution of a 14-year-old, a minor, where he got 18 months in prison.
	Wasn't a lot of in-house arrest as well.
	Was kind of he could work from prison, access emails from prison.
	No, no, no.
	He could work from home and only have to spend his nights in prison.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Which is a ridiculous deal to be able to get a hold of.
	And one of the whispers that went around behind the scenes at the time was the reason that the prosecutor had gone with that deal and the judge had gone ahead with that deal was because they were warned that Epstein was in bed with the intelligence services.
	He might have been in the middle of the middle.
	It turns out it was Dershowitz who told Jim Acosta that Epstein was intelligence and a friend of intelligence.
	Don't touch him.
	Dershowitz pops up everywhere.
	Dershowitz pops up everywhere.
	He pops up here again in a lot of these emails.
	There are also mentions, hundreds of mentions of Richard Branson, the British founder of Virgin Group in the files, and an email exchange from 2017.
	Does he have an island of his own?
	I believe he does.
	They may have even been neighboring.
	Yeah, in an email exchange from 2013, Branson appears to tell Epstein that it was really nice seeing him, adding, anytime you're in the area, would love to see you as long as you bring your harem.
	And to clarify that, the Virgin Group has clarified that Harrim referred to three adult members of Epstein's team, adding, any contact Richard and Joan Branson had with Epstein took place on only a few occasions more than 12 years ago and was limited to group or business settings such as a charity tennis event.
	And I'm sure it was all just as innocent as raising money for charity.
	Of course.
	Other foreign figures, and this is where it becomes like who was implicated?
	Literally everybody.
	Almost literally everybody.
	Globally.
	Yes, across the entire global spectrum, including a national security advisor to Slovakia's prime minister, Miroslav Ladjak.
	He resigned after text messages between him and Epstein came to light in the files, including from 2018, when the two lightheartedly discussed women and a forthcoming meeting with Foreign Russian Minister Sergei Lavrov.
	Epstein furthermore made 75,000 Euro, otherwise known as £55,000, worth of payments to accounts connected to Lord Peter Mandelson, which has been discovered because there are bank statements released with these files.
	And they were between 2003 and 2004.
	Epstein was sending three separate 25,000 Euro payments referenced to Lord Mandelson and his husband, boyfriend, whatever their arrangement was at the time.
	Mandelson, in an amazing coincidence, of just he must have knocked himself on the head.
	Because personally, I'd remember that amount of money just dropping into my account.
	He said he has no record or recollection of receiving the sums and did not know whether the documents were authentic.
	Okay, buddy.
	All right, pal.
	You already got in a massive amount of trouble back in September for a load of the email leaks that came out, along with the birthday card that had been signed for Epstein, who, again, a real who's who.
	Everybody had signed that birthday card.
	That was released along with a lot of correspondence that Epstein and Mandelson had had over the years.
	Again, a lot of it overlapping with his time in prison, which again seems to suggest that.
	A little detail about Mandelson, if you'll permit me.
	Of course.
	There was a discussion between Gordon Brown when he was Prime Minister at the time and his team over what to do about raising funds.
	And one of the suggestions from, I believe, Nick Buckley was to sell state assets.
	Mandelson then takes that email and forwards it to Jeffrey Epstein.
	And Epstein replies, What assets are saleable?
	So, what Mandelson was doing was providing a high-level secret internal government communication to Jeffrey Epstein about Britain's finances and Britain's financial state and passing it on to this guy.
	And as I'll discuss in my segment, pretty much all the world's financiers had some kind of touch point.
	It's the network.
	It's the network.
	They're putting assets into the network.
	Exactly.
	There is a huge network which casts a very different light on the sale of Britain's gold.
	And why any of this money would be being transferred from Epstein to Mandelson.
	It seems like a cash for favours, except this is payment for really big favours to do with a huge financial giant of a country and what they are doing with their own assets.
	There's also evidence that I'll get onto later related to Peter Mandelson's resignation from the Labour Party that seems to suggest that he was actively trying to interfere in policy writing on the behalf of financiers like Epstein.
	So this is kind of exactly what you would expect from high-ranking, powerful financiers that they just have lines to people in government, important people in government, where they can buy them off to get what they want for favorable policies for these countries.
	Think about it further.
	Britain lost billions as a result of these kinds of arrangements, all for Peter Mandelson to end up making a grand total of £55,000.
	Not even selling us dearly.
	Well, we don't know what else he might have got from Epstein as well, because there is the compromat angle as well.
	Before we go on, can we also talk about very briefly the tone and tenor of the language used?
	Because one thing I couldn't help but notice, like, this is like Norwegian princess or something.
	European royalty business magnates speak to Epstein in a deeply respectful way.
	They think he's brilliant.
	They think he's in a very humbled way.
	In a very humble way, in the sort of way that you very rarely have to talk to someone in real life.
	And then Epstein, his responses are just one line, just no, you're the minimum possible effort that I'm giving to my replies.
	It's like he's firing off a text.
	Exactly.
	As in, there's a hierarchy here.
	You speak to me respectfully, I send you one line in return, and I will never have to worry about that or anything like this, but you will always have to speak in this deferential way to me.
	That's something that really stuck out to me, how secure Epstein seems in this network.
	They're approaching him as though he's some kind of great, powerful intellectual sage.
	Or like he's the Viceroy of India or something, right?
	Yeah, and one of the things that we're talking about.
	They're approaching him as supplicants.
	Yes.
	That's what they're doing.
	Epic supplicants.
	Correct.
	They are approaching him as supplicants, and he is sort of.
Approaching Epstein Respectfully 00:08:30
	What's that?
	Oh, yeah.
	Maybe.
	He's too busy doing weird baby farm eugenics experiments to be able to.
	Unironically, unironically.
	Wasn't that his Texas ranch or something like that that he was doing?
	Yes, one of his New Mexico, sorry.
	Yeah, his New Mexico ranch, which is still questions over what's going on with it since he died, who bought it.
	People have gone to take a look over there and immediately been caught up by security and go on their way.
	Who owns that?
	What's going on?
	And yet, people are flowing drones over, and there is construction work or something like happening there.
	It's like, okay.
	But the thing is, people are going to have to remember that all of these assets are just going to stay within this network, and that's the issue.
	And like somebody will take Epstein's place, or a couple of people will take Epstein's place, and it will be the same thing all over again.
	That's the fundamental issue.
	It's that he was the center of an oligarchic network that had fingers in pretty much every country and was able to reach out for influence on financial deals.
	And I'm going to talk about some of that stuff.
	And speaking of influence going to the top, you're probably all wondering: is Trump's name in this?
	Yes, it's mentioned hundreds of times.
	I've seen some people say upwards of 3,000 times.
	If you actually go onto the web page and search up Trump's name, I did.
	It comes up maybe slightly over 5,000 times, but there are lots of repeat documents in this as well.
	So it's doubling up a lot of these documents and adding to that.
	But it is important to know, as Sky News very tactfully did, right here, that just because you're mentioned does not necessarily mean that you have done anything wrong.
	You can't just hear that somebody's been mentioned in it and automatically go, oh my God, they're a child abuser.
	Now, because it could just be that you're mentioned in emails where they're talking about you.
	Because if you go and you look at some of the documents that are sent related to Trump, for instance, and I'm not saying this as like a number one Trump supporter or anything.
	I think people don't know that I'm not that anymore.
	And I'm not trying to say this to try and excuse anything.
	But if you go in, you can find that some of the documents are, say, for instance, around 2016, Epstein and a lot of the others sending each other the odds of particular political candidates winning in the 2016 election.
	So it can be somewhat innocent and excusable like that.
	You have to really go into the documents themselves and read about it, which is why I'm saying, you know, be careful before we know everything that's in there and the context for it.
	But what we do know already does look quite bad for some people, but related to Trump, they say among the new documents is a list compiled by the FBI last year of allegations made against Trump by callers to its National Threat Operations Center tip line.
	Many of these appear to be based on unverified tips received by the agency and were made without supporting evidence.
	This list includes numerous allegations of sexual abuse made against Trump, Epstein, and other high-profile figures.
	And what you may see is a lot of the allegations of sexual abuse related to Trump that people are putting in their headlines related to this drop of documents.
	I'm sure Carl will go into the next segment as well.
	A lot of those, if not all of them, are coming from those documents.
	So it's important to know that these allegations are coming from unverified phone calls from people just calling up and saying, so-and-so did this to me.
	A line that's open to the public.
	Yes.
	So, you know, they might be true, they might not.
	There is no way to verify that at all.
	One of the interesting connections, given that he went so hard on this in the first place as well, is Elon Musk, who, despite having said in the past that he was invited to Little St. James Island, Epstein Island, actually in these emails, it comes across more like he's kind of like an autistic loser trying to get invited to the cool parties.
	Like he's begging, like, hey, what day and night will be the wildest party on your island?
	Oh, I'm such a party hound.
	Come on.
	Emails from November 2012.
	Again, after his conviction, his very public conviction.
	Everybody in these circles and networks would have known I'm talking to a guy who was convicted for bad behavior with a minor.
	Nobody cared.
	Nobody cared whatsoever.
	November 2012, Epstein asked how many people Musk would need transporting on a helicopter ride to the island, and Musk replies that it would only be himself and his then-wife.
	An email from Musk to Epstein on Christmas in 2012 includes Musk inquiring whether the financier had any parties planned because he needs to let loose.
	Two emails as well.
	You've got to.
	This will be interesting when you get into it.
	There is also further contact between Epstein and Bill Gates.
	Now, related to those, which I'm sure you'll get into what was said about Gates.
	Yeah, it's not that deep, though, to be honest.
	There's not that much.
	I was just saving the lurid details for yours, but I'll go into it here.
	Basically, Epstein sent an email to himself.
	Related to Bill Gates, which seemed to have been one of those things.
	Maybe he was threatening that he would send the email so there would be an electronic record of it that wouldn't be able to be deleted, but we have access to it anyway.
	Wherein Epstein is one, reprimanding Gates for being a bad friend after six years of friendship, and then two, threatening to spill the beans on the fact that Gates allegedly had contracted an STD or STDs from Knights with Russian Girls,
	had potentially passed on one of those STDs to his then-wife, now ex-wife, shockingly, Melinda Gates, and was trying to secure drugs so that he could slip them into her drinks or give them to her surreptitiously so she didn't realize she had an STD that he'd given her that he'd got from sleeping with Russian girls that Epstein had given her.
	Follow all that?
	Weirdly, in the same year, Bill Gates put out an appeal for someone to create a supercondom.
	Science has not yet found one strong enough for the Goliath, Bill Magnum is not enough.
	I don't know if it's about size.
	I think it's about prophylactic potency.
	You know, I get the feeling that, I mean, with the Prince Andrew, so, oh, we've got a 26-year-old Russian woman.
	So, they're getting prostitutes, right?
	So, a large amount of what they do is just soliciting prostitutes, which, okay, gross, but, like, not illegal, not like...
	I mean, it is illegal.
	Well, I mean, it depends where you are, I suppose, in the world, right?
	yeah okay maybe illegal but like not like nowhere near as immoral it's not exactly Exactly.
	Which Epstein was definitely also involved in.
	Absolutely.
	So it's, you know, gross, but not the same level.
	And so it becomes a bit more comical that it kind of implies that.
	It's hugely immoral.
	And either way, I don't like the idea of being governed or being socially engineered by such reprobates and freaks.
	Yeah, but I kind of assume that rich and powerful guys solicit prostitutes.
	I just showed.
	No, I say I agree as well.
	I just wish that it were not the case.
	Yeah, I agree.
	We are living in a truly godless world.
	Yeah, I agree, but like, I think that's a level of corruption and depravity that's kind of expected.
	You know, yeah, okay, it's probably the case that very rich guys spend a lot of money on women to shag, right?
	Okay.
	You know, not the end of the world, not great, but not the end of the world.
	And it's just kind of funny.
	It's completely humiliating.
	And just association with this sick freak in the first place is bad enough, as well as all of the favours and political influence that he's getting as a result of this.
	Because whether or not they're doing something illegal, the humiliation, embarrassment, immorality of it is enough that Epstein can then use it as influence.
	Having your pimp responsible for your finances and political connections is deeply degrading to the political order in general.
Bill Gates' Russian Prostitute Scandal 00:03:25
	Obviously.
	But even if men who are powerful tend to do certain things sometimes.
	It's still a funny story that Bill Gates, you know, ultra-billionaire, shagged a Russian prostitute in the condom split.
	And then he caught an STD.
	That's still funny, though.
	And then he gave it to his wife and he's like, Epstein, what can I do?
	It's like a buddy comedy.
	Yes.
	Someone's going to AI that now.
	I mean, they probably have.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they probably already have, you're right.
	You know, it's just really funny.
	Like, they're not, they're not any.
	In a lot of ways, they're not actually terribly different to idiots who do things they shouldn't be doing.
	Well, of course.
	Either way, a spokesperson for Microsoft has said that these allegations are completely absurd and absolutely false.
	Oh, wow.
	Who would have seen that one coming?
	So if you want more information on just who's who in this, there are already articles like this, which were accurate up to the time, but there might be more names being added to them as we speak.
	Obviously, Shock of All Shocks, Harvey Weinstein's in there.
	Mr. Jay Z is in there.
	Pusher T, Bill Clinton, Nick Jagger, Michael Jackson, Chris Tucker.
	Chris Tucker flew on the Lolita Express loads of times.
	He's in the logs loads of times.
	Oh, okay.
	Obviously, Richard Branson, Diana Ross pictured with Clinton and Michael Jackson all at the same time.
	You've got lots of redactions.
	Yeah, what the heck?
	That will be the face of somebody.
	I don't know what the black marks are here for the faces of people who are underage.
	So one wonders who was she grabbing by the neck.
	Kevin Spacey, shockingly.
	Brett Ratner.
	Then you've got a load of the other Trumps, Ivanka and Ivana, Ethel Kennedy, Courtney Love, for some reason.
	Andrew Cuomo, Alan Dershowitz.
	David Koch is important there.
	Yes.
	Von Huntsman was a candidate for governor.
	John Kerry.
	That guy's.
	Wasn't he the 2004 Democrat nominee?
	Democrat nominee and then Secretary of State and then the guy in charge of all the environmental stuff.
	But the thing is, like when we say mentioned, we don't know what the context of these is, right?
	again like Liz Hurley for instance Austin Powers alumni for all I know it might just be she was great in Austin Powers in an email Because this is such like the thing to remember is that these boomers were using emails in the same way you use social media or use DMs, right, in messaging services.
	And then you'll just talk about whatever, as well as anything that you think is important.
	So there are going to be loads of references to just things that have happened that they're like, oh, no, Courtney Love's died, doesn't we?
	I know.
	I don't know if she's still alive.
	Sadly, yes, she is.
	Okay.
	It'll be something along those lines, probably, for most of them.
	That's not to say that there aren't going to be ones who are obviously more implicated than others.
	Alan Dershowitz.
	Yeah.
	But it's one of those things where it's like, okay, you can't draw that much from an individual mention, unfortunately.
	But happily, because the documents are all so available to you, if any of these numbers do jump out, sorry, these names do jump out at you, you can just quickly go into the webpage and search up their name and see it for yourself.
	So that is one of the successes of this whole thing, if you ask me.
	There are also a lot of the photos that are available now that people have been drawing out some of the more interesting one.
Epstein Emails: Speculation and Allegations 00:15:38
	Peter Mandelson, for some reason, in his underwear, speaking to a faceless woman in a bath row.
	Interesting.
	These creepy ones have been going around of Prince Andrew with some blacked out faces woman on the floor, who I presume is alive because there's another version of the picture here where she's got her arm up.
	But still, a very strange photo.
	Very weird.
	Very strange.
	If nothing else, this should always just confirm to you that the people who rule as are degenerate freaks outside of anything else that they are involved in and how bad and how deep the rabbit hole goes.
	Outside of all that, these people are freaks and very, very strange people.
	You know, Brett Ratner.
	Again, they're interesting and there's a salaciousness to all of this.
	But by itself, the photos aren't incriminating.
	ones that they have released thus far, like the one here of Bill Gates in this framed photo.
	This just means that they're all associates of Epstein, which we all already knew.
	Where the weird stuff starts to come in is where you get to, again, the stuff with Mandelson, for instance, like some of the weird discussions in these emails and the way that they're talking to somebody who is very powerful was a major part of a government.
	And this is from 2002.
	This would, I believe, be when Mandelson was still in the Labour government during the first reign of New Labour.
	This is a discussion with Ghislaine Maxwell, where he's saying that he's feeling starved of contact.
	Now you're impatient and beginning to get some sense of what you were like as a child, like literally scolding Mandelson here.
	He says, okay, mind you, my plans for Thailand and Bally at the beginning of September are now firming up.
	And she responds, you spoiled Jeffrey's lunch.
	Pete, I've warned you about that before.
	Behave or you'll be punished like the bad boy you are.
	So this is just cringe flirting.
	Yeah.
	It's strange.
	She knew he was gay, right?
	I mean, she must have done.
	I don't really, I mean, with someone like Peter Mandelson and connected in these sort of circles, I'm actually kind of reluctant to put a box around their sexuality.
	I imagine a lot of these people have done a lot of things with a lot of, you know, victims that they do to be part of the club rather than because this is like a genuine expression of their own sexual desires.
	Well, either way, he's resigned.
	He's resigned.
	There's now questions of whether he's going to be able to keep his peerage.
	He might no longer be Lord Mandelson by the end of this.
	Good.
	Because, I mean, this is just following on from a lot of the controversy around September when all of the stuff with the birthday card came out.
	And I was almost certain, didn't he resign then as well?
	Because this would be what?
	Resign as ambassador.
	He resigned as ambassador and now he's fully resigned as from Labour.
	Yeah, that was sort of being.
	Which must be his, what, third or fourth time doing that?
	But the thing is, and that's the point.
	But none of this was new, right?
	It's been well known that Mandelson is basically a weird perv and that he has been friends with Epstein for a long time.
	And so it was really weird when Starmer's like, oh, yeah, he can be our American ambassador.
	It kind of implies Stalmer was like, okay, tap into the network.
	And he's our guy in the network.
	And with, I mean, there is more to it in terms of Mrs. Starmer and in terms of Mandelson being, you know, like Epstein and in terms of all of these other connections that make you wonder who are these favours being done for.
	Well, I mean, just an example in here, the most interesting thing that I found from this article was an analysis of some of the emails showing that Mandelson tried to change government policy on a planned tax on bankers' bonuses following requests from Epstein.
	Trying hard to amend, Lord Mandelson wrote to Epstein in December 2009, again when he was in prison.
	Treasury digging in, but I'm on the case.
	The policy introduced after the financial crisis meant that bonuses over £25,000 would be liable for an extra 50% tax rate.
	At the time, Lord Mandelson was business secretary in Gordon Brown's government.
	Any real chance of making the tax only on the cash portion of the banker's bonus, Epstein wrote in an email on the 15th of December.
	Mandelson's told the BBC that, oh, every UK and international bank was making the same argument.
	And he said that my conversation in government at the time reflected the views of the sector as a whole, not a single individual.
	But the fact that he had such close ties and was such good friends with Epstein and received money from him, at least money that we know he received between 2003 and 2004, does suggest that Epstein bought and blackmailed his way into influence in this particular government and many others and decided to get benefits from it.
	Who knows what else he was getting from this?
	Who knows what other benefits he was getting from this?
	But in this case, it seems that he was trying to exert influence just to get a bit of a tax break for any bonuses that he would get or bonuses for his other pals within the broader financial network.
	So that's an introduction to a lot of this stuff right now.
	And we'll get into more detail as we carry on.
	Yeah.
	Doomhan says, we don't hate these people enough.
	And Mason Royce points out the Lord Acton power corrupts.
	Absolutely.
	It's like, well, yeah, but the thing is, I think we're way beyond this kind of framing, right?
	Because I mean, like, Lord Acton is assuming a kind of, you know, Britain and England where actually corruption is assumed to be bad and people would rather be virtuous.
	And what we're seeing from this is this is just not the paradigm these people act in.
	I mean, corruption is the nature of the network and how the network gets anything done.
	Anyway, let's move on to the next one, Harry.
	So let's talk about what the worst stuff that we pull out of the Epstein emails is, because there's a lot going around and a lot of it is being interpreted as if it is somehow concrete proof of things.
	And unfortunately, that's not the case.
	Much of what's going on is actually the allegations that are being made through anonymous tip lines, right?
	So basically, you'll see a lot of things.
	Unfortunately, Calvin has kind of stumbled into this.
	As you can see here, the subject is the interview of a purported Epstein victim.
	So this is someone that is a member of the public that has been interviewed by the FBI in New York that is making claims that are, frankly, a bit outlandish.
	This is about George H.W. Bush, who would have been very, very old at the time that the allegations are being made.
	But there are also weird things.
	He was the victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet were cut with a scimitar but left no scarring.
	Right, okay.
	So probably not true.
	If your feet are cut with a scimitar, how's that a sacrifice?
	Anyway, the point is, a lot of this is the really extreme, lurid, vile things that you'll see come from these emails.
	Now, these are...
	I think these are sent after Epstein was already dead as well, August 28, 29, as well.
	And you can see, you know, detective so-and-so, NYPD, Detective Bureau of Child Exploitation, subject interview of a purported Epstein victim.
	So it's not like these are emails from Epstein saying, here's what I did.
	Exactly.
	And just to be clear, we don't get those, right?
	We don't get any direct, I have murdered this child or I've raped this girl or something like that, right?
	Everything is done by implication and innuendo, which we'll go through, but it does give a sort of conspiratorial aspect to it.
	But I do think there is something there.
	For example, from one cellmate interview, from the cellmate interview regarding Epstein in 2025, there was mention of an audi with Tony Blair.
	Now, I don't know, but the point is, this isn't Epstein emailing someone saying, hey, I went to an audience with Tony Blair, which would be which would be far more credible to believe than a cellmate interview alleges this is what Epstein said, and this has been reported by the FBI in New York, right?
	Of course, just to say, when a certain mass of allegations reaches a critical point, it does lend an extra weight to what's being said.
	But we already know that Epstein was involved in a load of crazy stuff.
	So just like this is the 24th of July last year, some guy adding one little bit extra on top.
	We can't verify it.
	Exactly.
	We can't verify any of this.
	And it's a lot of the time just coming from people who themselves aren't necessarily subject to privilege and information, right?
	It could just be some sort of rand off the street making lunatic allegations about George H.W. Bush or just some guy, a prisoner in a cell with Epstein saying, oh, yeah, he annoyed you with Tony Blair or whatever.
	It's like, okay, you know, what do I do with that information?
	Is that true or not?
	And then you've got the Trump ones, which you'll see around a lot because, I mean, I don't know if I'm going to put it on screen like that because it is pretty horrific stuff.
	But they're horrific allegations that I'm not going to read verbatim because they're just awful.
	But then you'll see lots of people posting underneath.
	The complainant was spoken to and deemed not credible.
	Additional research showed three separate incidents involving police which requested mandatory psychiatric evaluations.
	As in, the person is making insane claims about how Donald Trump has raped and tortured girls, but it's just a claim that was made to the FBI and the FBI have looked into it and they've said, no, this person appears to be nuts.
	So, and again, this is all coming after Trump's presidential bids.
	And so there are political reasons, etc., etc.
	So I'm not saying that Trump or Bill Gates or whoever, Tony Blair, I'm not saying they haven't done anything.
	What I'm saying is we don't have proof of that from the Epstein files.
	That's not the files actually demonstrate.
	That's not what they actually demonstrate.
	There are allegations that are crazy.
	There are questions.
	We don't know, but we're in a state right now where essentially any level of depravity by the elites sounds plausible.
	And at the same time, if you told your Normie friends that this is actually very plausible or somewhat plausible, you sound like a lunatic.
	So we're in this weird space right now.
	We're in this information miasma right now, where because of all of these political connections and financial connections that Epstein maintained after his conviction, because of the fact that these people were kind of competing to go to his parties,
	because he obviously could introduce you to literally anyone anywhere in the world, anything done by people in power sounds somewhat believable, but the files don't actually prove anything at that stage.
	They prove that this network exists.
	They prove that these business connections are real.
	They prove that the elites operate in these circles and don't mind Epstein being convicted of trafficking minors, but they don't prove specific allegations against specific individuals.
	Correct.
	And there's no reason to think that we would have got these things out of them either.
	It's unlikely that they're going to say, yes, I took that 12-year-old and I did X, Y, and Z in their emails.
	I mean, they're evil, not stupid.
	Yes.
	Maybe there is that evidence in the other, I know, half of the files that haven't been sent, but we don't.
	I mean, it might still be just buried in the 3 million that are there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, who knows?
	But this is what we've got so far.
	So anyway, you've got these extremely wild allegations that the authorities haven't taken seriously.
	You've got the emails.
	Epstein had a habit of he'd obviously sent, because I mean, I've done this before, send an email to someone and then send it to yourself just so you've got a copy of it, right?
	And this is a very personal email.
	And this is a massive wall of text that Epstein never writes.
	Epstein very rarely wrote wall of text.
	Normally, it's like one or two word replies.
	And you get the bare minimum just so you know that I've seen it, sort of thing.
	So he writes, you know, the dear Bill, I can't believe you've, you know, ruined our friendship in this way, blah, You ready to discard me and our friendship?
	And so this is, he was clearly very moved and bothered by this.
	And this is the Bill Gates estimate.
	There was one theory that he wrote that on behalf of someone else.
	Quite possibly.
	Sent to Bill Gates, and he sent a draft to it to himself.
	We have no idea.
	Could be.
	We don't know, like I said.
	Anyway, so just previously, none of the files that I have seen go in any way to discredit or disproving anything that we already know.
	So the context in which we get all of this is in the context of him having been jailed for being a child trafficker and soliciting sex from minors, having all of the weird stuff on this St. James, like the blue and white temple thing that doesn't have a door on it and all this sort of stuff, and clearly being a kind of supplier of these things for what looks like, I don't know.
	And as well, just having allegations of abuse for girls as young as some of the ones that I've seen are as young as 11 years old.
	Yeah, dozens.
	I mean, there's women who have said that he would, you know, sexually assault women three times a day.
	He had a regular schedule in which, you know, morning, noon, and night, he would be doing these things and stuff like that.
	So it's like all of these things outside of the emails, I've got no reason to disbelieve.
	Nothing's disproven, but nothing concrete from his actual words confirms any of this.
	However, so let's get into the things that are speculative.
	And I just want to be very clear.
	I don't have any context for these things.
	They're just weird things to have said, right?
	So, I mean, there's this one where I don't know who's replying to, because of course it's redacted.
	And I don't know what the circumstance they have, but I give you permission to kill him is apparently with X.
	He lied to you and he lied to me.
	It's like, okay.
	Is that serious?
	You know, do we know?
	That's pretty suggestive of something serious.
	It sounds serious.
	Is Epstein the sort of person who'd be able to get someone killed?
	Probably.
	Well, that's the point, right?
	So it's a bit of a weird thing.
	And then you have the allegation of, again, this is one of those ones where it's not Epstein sending it.
	It's part of the investigation.
	But an allegation that Maxwell had recruited a girl for a modeling career, which is the way that she used to recruit these girls and then groom them into the network that the victims of Epstein.
	Instead of modeling, she was sold as a slave for sex and torture.
	And then Prince Andrew was an accessory to her death as he tortured her and forced me to force her murder.
	So, again, no proof that that's true, but these are the sorts of things that are floating around this, right?
	And so when you put it in the sort of, you know, okay, well, this is Epstein's words himself.
Evidently Coded Language 00:07:58
	Who knows, right?
	Then you've got weird, a lot of references to torture, actually.
	You can see Epstein at the bottom there, because of the way that emails work, for any Zoomers who don't know, is that the newer ones are at the top and the old ones are at the bottom, unlike in a regular sort of DMing conversation.
	He says, where are you?
	Are you okay?
	I love the torture video.
	I'm in China.
	And then, hopefully, whoever he's responding to.
	It's like, I love the torture video.
	That's.
	By the way, those dates match trips by Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Well, to be fair, though, that doesn't necessarily say that.
	No, it doesn't.
	It doesn't.
	But the dates of when, like, China and then US visits do match Netanyahu visits.
	Is it Netanyahu?
	Do we know?
	We don't know.
	Yeah.
	And then whoever Martin Noak is, our spy was captured after completing a mission.
	Jeffrey Epstein says, did you torture her?
	Martin Noak's a Harvard professor.
	Did you torture her?
	Again, no context, no idea.
	Just saying there's a lot of references to torture.
	As Alex Jones points out, there is a kind of pizza gate-y vibe to a lot of what's going on.
	Here, you can see a video had been sent, if you're not too busy, from someone else who we don't know.
	And then Epstein says, I watched them all.
	Please don't send any more.
	Sorry, I have no stomach for even the slightest aggro.
	I don't have the stomach for it or for any drama, imaginary or real.
	I'm still fragile off the last one and scared of shadows.
	Again, I don't know who that is.
	This is from Gillen.
	Oh, is it?
	Oh, yeah, G-Max.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I don't know what they've sent, but that's weird, right?
	There's something...
	For her to feel upset and not have the stomach for it kind of suggests a certain bar.
	Right.
	So I don't know who sent the original thing.
	Yeah, it's Gillene Maxwell.
	Yeah.
	So, again, I've no idea.
	There are a lot of strange pictures which are gross.
	Really gross.
	Again, it's kind of in fact, sorry, before we get to those, we'll get to a few of the other emails that Alex Jones has got.
	There's a lot of what I think is evidently coded language.
	Chinese cookie pizza and grape soda is a catchphrase that him and a guy called Harry Fish use over and over.
	Now, I'm not saying that that means something.
	It's just weird.
	And it kind of has that, because it's such a specific catchphrase that's being used.
	It's really weird.
	And then you've got, like, it's just like with the Hillary Clinton and the pedestrian emails, where it's like they talk about pizza in a way that just you couldn't use in a context for pizza.
	You mean radiating a soft glow with a look of bliss and excitement.
	Yeah, that's the pizza.
	It's like, what are you talking about?
	You know, she looks pregnant.
	Who knows, right?
	Who knows?
	I want to let you know the crew really appreciate Peter today.
	Thank you for letting us do that.
	What?
	Just like they, again, they talk about these things in very, very strange ways.
	So then, you know, it goes on, right?
	So anyway, then you've got the sort of weird photos.
	Again, very pedestriore-esque, where it's like he's got the pictures of the young girls being tormented or tortured or whatever in a swimming pool or something like that.
	It was Podesta's brother who had the Jeffrey Dharma sculpture, wasn't it?
	Yes, the flipped over body one, yeah.
	But it was John Podesta who had the sort of abused children on the walls image.
	And this has got like echoes of that, which is just, okay, horrific, frankly.
	And this is from his New York house, the same one where he had Bill Clinton in the blue dress.
	And yeah, there's loads of mentions of food in weird contexts in specific ways, which is weird.
	And then you've got like this one from a woman called Susan Hamblin, who apparently is the founder of an adoption charity, asking if he needed any new steaks for his island because he only had two left.
	It's like, right.
	Would Epstein ever?
	I mean, like, Epstein, when he died, right?
	I remember looking through all of the stuff in 2019.
	He had 600 million plus in assets and $60 million in liquid capital in his accounts.
	He doesn't deal with his own food, right?
	He doesn't deal with food.
	For his servants, detailing what shopping they should do and how they should maintain the properties and so on and so forth.
	Yeah.
	And that just stinks to high heaven.
	Exactly.
	You currently have two steaks left on the island.
	Wouldn't you like new ones?
	I'll be sending for some things down with it.
	Look, man.
	Like, you know, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but I can't help but feel there's a lot of coded language being used here.
	It's just really weird.
	Anyway, which one was this one?
	Howard Stern.
	Howard Stern.
	Oh, there was something today.
	Harry Fish again.
	Oh, I think this was.
	You want a woody dinner tonight?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, no, this is a different, but I should have given it to you.
	Don't worry.
	It's still, I mean, don't worry, it's still weird and gross.
	But, oh, yeah, pizza and grape.
	Like, literally, after talking about the Sultan wants to replace Bionic Dick with a new Swiss version, wants a different surgeon.
	You're joking.
	I hope nope.
	Goyem.
	Pizza and grape soda tomorrow for lunch.
	Like, just what a weird, weirdly specific thing to say, right?
	It's just, it's very, very strange.
	I don't get it.
	And then you've got here, I'm still waiting and watching melted trees drip.
	It's like, okay, that's, again, feels like coded language.
	Yeah, message, text message sent from a BlackBerry contact named Torture Visible on what appears to be a Skype call.
	Yeah.
	That's weird.
	Like I said, can't prove anything.
	And these people are smart enough to use innuendo when they do these things.
	Then you've got Heggy Siegel is emailing of his assistants, I believe.
	I assume so.
	Yep.
	Basically, on the plane to Kenya, in Kenya.
	Can I bring back, can I bring a little baby back for your two boys or girls, so Madonna?
	It's like.
	I don't know.
	I mean, that's a princess.
	I don't know.
	Might be.
	That might be just a joking reference to Madonna and others getting designer African children to show off in the media.
	It might be.
	Completely possible.
	So who knows?
	Like, just it, you know.
	But this is the kind of thing that has come out of it.
	So it's not any direct references to, ah, yes, we got this girl and we did X, Y, and Z to her.
	You're not going to get that out of this.
	Or at least so far, we haven't got that out of this.
	And I don't think we need to to understand that these people are going to be talking in coded language and there is you know, I mean, we already know what the pravity involved.
	Well, one of the annoying disappointments from this is all of these extra files that they say that they haven't released, they say are videos.
	And one of the reasons that they say that they haven't released it is because of the shocking and illegal content that's in them.
	Now, that's completely fair not to release the videos.
	Then you have to read the description.
	Yes, just tell us if there are any horrifying, compromising videos that feature well-known politicians or anybody of note, of interest, anybody powerful doing immoral, illegal, heinous acts in them.
	Just tell us.
	We don't need to see the videos.
	I mean, wasn't Little St. James completely wired up with cameras?
Revealing The Records 00:07:13
	I mean, all of these sorts of places.
	If P. Diddy can wire his entire mansion with mansions, then Jeffrey Epstein is going to do that and more.
	So there are going to be gigabytes, terabytes of recordings of these places.
	And these need to be revealed.
	And I mean, and like such details.
	It's not sort of published online, but there have to be transcripts.
	There have to be details.
	Massive blocked out images or something.
	Exactly.
	Just so you can see, you know, Bill Clinton's face or whatever.
	That's fine.
	You know, I don't want to see any of the things, but like, we know that it's there.
	Yep.
	Can we go to the next segment, please, Harry?
	So I want to talk about the politics of it all.
	And then you see, for example, Jeffrey Epstein talking to an anti-Semitic group of individuals, and he's sharing a joke with someone that at his dinner table he asked, why are you right-wing guys so anti-Semitic?
	And one of them said, historically, we all know it has actually been you guys behind the governments pulling the strings.
	I said, like who?
	And one pointed at me, and they all started to laugh with, started to roar with laughter.
	And the other guy asks him, how do you explain in only three days there have been princes, prime ministers, other ministers, emissaries, and two presidents of world bodies visiting you?
	He says, guilty.
	And he goes, guilty.
	And he finds it absolutely hilarious.
	So this is sort of the theme of what I want to discuss here, which is that this guy was plugged into a network of incredibly senior people all over the world.
	And he describes what they're doing quite accurately.
	Here he's talking about Greek debt.
	This is to Noam Chomsky.
	And this is to Noam Chomsky, of all people.
	And he's explaining to Chomsky, essentially, that you must follow the money until it returns to the beginning.
	And that the bankers in France and in Germany made a bunch of ridiculously bad investments.
	And yet, at the end of the day, the Greeks were not allowed to default and not pay their loans.
	They were forced into a decade or so of austerity that crushed Greek living standards and made sure that the bankers got their pound of flesh.
	And he explains this very coldly, very intelligently, I would argue, to Chomsky and makes it clear that that's really how the world works.
	There are more emails about this here, including Chomsky's own reply.
	But that stuff is sort of made clear.
	It's funny that, again, it's funny that it is Chomsky, given what Chomsky has spent his entire career doing, speaking about the hidden forces and power brokers behind the scenes when you were emailing them.
	You are involved with them this entire time.
	What's interesting about this as well is I went on holiday to Greece, I think 2013, first time I ever went there, and I was really surprised at the number of German institutions that I would see around.
	Like there are German bookshops.
	Yep.
	Like German, you know, and it's like, what's going on here?
	They took over the country.
	Exactly.
	I didn't know.
	I was completely naive in like 2012, 2013, whenever it was.
	I can't remember exactly.
	But I didn't know anything about politics or anything.
	But it was just so weird that it's like, why are there so many German people?
	They took over the country through the banks.
	That's pretty much what happened.
	In this one here, these are Epstein's words to someone else, Roger Schenk.
	And he says, this is the way he makes money and made a fortune in the past 10 years, selling short the shipping futures.
	Let the Goim deal in the real world.
	From shipping news, the most dramatic growth has been in shipping futures, which allows shipping company to lay off risks.
	So he's being and pasting a news article.
	I mean, explaining what's relevant.
	Exactly.
	And then he sort of explains that, you know, what he does is avoid dealing in any real assets and focus instead on the financial economy and on making money through the financial economy.
	Makes another comment.
	Before we go on, I think it's worth prefacing this, that Epstein, in his emails, A lot of what he says is very ethnically coded.
	Yes.
	It's not even coded.
	He's just saying it.
	Yeah, yeah, he's just saying it.
	In his own mind, he clearly viewed himself as Jewish and was concerned about maintaining relations within a network of Jewish people and regularly referred to non-Jewish people as either non-Jews or, as he does here, Goyim.
	To be clear, it seems to be one of the defining traits of his thinking, of what motivated him not to say that this colours all people of that religious or ethnic background, but he considered himself a, he comes across like a Jewish supremacist.
	Yes.
	And that seems to be one of the motivations for the sorts of people that he worked with.
	And that seemed to be, I would argue, one of the reasons why he felt morally justified in doing what he did to other people around him was because he saw them as lesser than himself.
	Goyim is typically a slur for non-Jewish people.
	There is Gentile, which is more polite, but Goyim is like what they say if they don't really respect you very much.
	Again, to say this applies as a one brush over all Jewish people, that's wrong because it would be like saying that the convictions and beliefs and behaviors of a white supremacist would color all white people.
	It's just not accurate to say as much.
	But in terms of Epstein, and we can assume many of the people that he associated with, that this was one of the things that informed his view of the world and the people around him.
	I mean, these are his literal words.
	Yes, yes.
	We are not, you know, extrapolating this.
	These are his words about, you know, why Jews are rich, and you can read them for yourself.
	They're all over.
	Here he is exchanging messages with someone explaining how to re-incorporate a Liechtenstein company in Morocco.
	Where did he get his lawyers and so on and so forth?
	And these messages are being exchanged with a gentleman called Jabur.
	And I'll explain who that is in a moment.
	He's going around introducing Qatari money to various other investors and making it clear that if I meet a pretty girl that lived in Beirut, I'd say not for me, but maybe for my brother, investments in real things are not for me, maybe for my family.
Macron's Connections 00:09:08
	So he's making these kinds of introductions and you see that all over.
	For example, here a friend of his says that he and another friend called Ari met with the Saudi crown prince Muhammad bin Salman in 2018 and somebody in PR was asking, you know, how much does it cost to get that introduction?
	And his answer was, we met with Mohammed bin Salman over dinner one night and we got $400 million in investments from him.
	And so you see this kind of connection between Middle Eastern money, Jeffrey Epstein and the people around Jeffrey Epstein, where they are going around organizing investments.
	You see it here with Peter Mandelson.
	Peter Mandelson, as I mentioned earlier, gets information from the prime minister and one of his assistants that they're going to be selling assets in Britain and Mandelson immediately forwards that to Jeffrey Epstein, giving him a tip off that, okay, there are bargains to be had here.
	This continues, for example, with India.
	When Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi wanted to get into a better relationship with Trump, one of the things that he did was set up meetings between Anil Ambani, an Indian billionaire of the Ambani clan.
	Him and his brother are two of the richest men in India.
	And the Indian leadership asks Jeffrey Epstein for help in getting to Trump.
	And the result of that is a visit by the Indian Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, to Israel, where he danced to Israeli songs and so on and so forth, making a bit of a fool of himself.
	But that ended up really strengthening the Indian relationship with Trump.
	And this was at a time when everybody was worried about tariffs and things of that nature.
	And so what happens is that an Indian billionaire reaches out to Jeffrey Epstein.
	Jeffrey Epstein explains how things should be done.
	The Indian government follows his instructions and gets what they want out of Trump.
	That's the kind of power and influence that we're talking about here.
	Let's go further and keep going through some of these things because there's an insane amount of material.
	Here we have Sultan bin Sulayim, who is the head of DP World, which is the UAE's main logistics company.
	Now, what this company does is acquire ports all over the world.
	They tried to buy a bunch of ports in the United States.
	They have a bunch of ports in Europe.
	They're quite influential in the Mediterranean.
	And he's discussing his lunch at the Élysée with the French president at the time.
	I think it was Hollande.
	And he had a very good conversation with French Minister of Economy, Monsieur Macron, who is now the President of France.
	This continues.
	And what we get afterwards is more of Jeffrey's friends having lunch with Macron.
	And who is he telling?
	He's telling Tom Pritzker of the Pritzker fortune, who control, among other things, the Hayat hotels and things of that nature.
	Now, Pritzker asks Epstein for a direct contact with the Macron administration, and that gets sorted out.
	And then Macron, and then Macron is informed, or sorry, Macron informs Epstein, we believe we need to rethink, rebuild, and presumably reinvent governance and formative international institutions, commitments and relationships between public and private states.
	This is the WEF agenda.
	This is the WEF agenda.
	And he sends this email to Berg Brend.
	Now, who the hell is Berg Brend?
	Berg Brend is a Norwegian politician, CEO of the World Economic Forum, member of the Conservative Party, supposedly, former foreign minister of Norway, etc., etc., chaired the UN's Commission on Sustainable Development.
	So all of that green crap that you see, that's what it ties to.
	That's the WEF agenda.
	And he is also involved in the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, which is China's development arm, so to speak, which sort of tries to impose the Chinese model globally.
	And then insane conspiracies theorists will say things like, the WEF is trying to impose the Chinese system of credit scores and social scores and total surveillance state on the West.
	And what do you get?
	You get Macron telling Jeffrey Epstein that that's what he wants, and Jeffrey Epstein passing this information to this guy who seems like a nobody, but he's sitting on pretty much all of the right committees and has the precise political background to be able to help achieve this.
	I mean, he's literally the president and CEO of the WEF.
	Yes.
	It can't be that much for nobody.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	It's just that you've never heard of him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But then it's not a left or right thing because it extends to Steve Bannon.
	And Steve Bannon seems to have a pretty deep relationship with Epstein.
	He's meeting with Noam Chomsky.
	And I couldn't be clearer that it's not left or right in that case because it's Steve Bannon with no.
	It's literally Steve Bannon with Noam Chomsky becoming an advisor to Ehud Barak, the Israeli prime minister and former head of intelligence and military guy in Israel, special forces guy.
	And he has Steve Bannon as his advisor, but Ehud Barak is famously of the Israeli Labour Party on the left.
	And it gets weirder and weirder every time you look at it.
	This is retarded, so I'll skip it for now.
	But then you get them talking about all kinds of work with biotechnology and how they're working essentially on the transgender agenda together.
	Yeah, there's a few.
	When you go through his history, and this is going back even to before we got all of these files and you're looking at the work of people like Whitney Webb back in 2019, Epstein was obsessed with two huge things.
	One being eugenics, the idea that he can create, like bioengineer his own super race of children for himself.
	And then second is through this, we can see a lot of stuff to do with AI as well.
	He was big on bringing up AI even 14, 15 years ago.
	Yep.
	Which is interesting because he was in 2015 with Ehud Barak trying to organize arrangements with Peter Thiel, who's huge on AI as well now.
	So I want you to read this exchange.
	We mentioned this Berg guy, the Norwegian guy who's the CEO of WEF.
	Hope you're enjoying your stay.
	Likewise, Davos can really replace the UN.
	Cyber cryptogenetics, international coordination.
	Like my stint at the Trilateral Commission.
	Issues now need to deal with the distributed trust and internet fallout, as in us online artists.
	We're the problem.
	It is interesting how multiple times he points out that social media is commanding the discourse.
	That's actually the thing to be worried about.
	And then you see everybody going for digital ID and this coordinated move for digital ID between Australia and Britain and so on, where it's sort of covered up by, oh, you need just to prove your identity before you can acquire VPN or something like that.
	Or you need to prove that you're not under 16, upload your ID.
	Ha, that's it.
	I mean, this is what, September 2018, that was around the time, just a little after the huge first wave of crackdowns on the internet for political discussion.
	Too much?
	Yep.
	And then...
	Almost bang on, in fact.
	Yep.
	This is where the alt-right got deplatformed from everything.
	Yep.
	And so Brend says we need a new global architecture.
	World Economic Forum is uniquely positioned, public-trivate.
	And Epstein goes, we need global architects first.
	I read that as transhumanism, essentially.
	Maybe.
	I mean, he was trying to be, he was trying to become a mortal.
	So yeah, he was definitely into transhumanism.
Qatar's Transhumanist Plot 00:15:26
	And then you see him again with Bannon working on getting rid of Powell, who was the head of the Federal Reserve at the time, or of Manuchin, who was the Treasury Secretary, because the finance bros were not happy with this.
	And when you see Elon Musk sort of countering these guys, having been kind of, you know, not gotten along with them, you see this war within the oligarchy between the tech bros and the finance bros, which is what we've been talking about for some time.
	This is an email of people that Jeffrey Epstein wants to introduce to Steve Bannon.
	And it's a who's who?
	The first name is Mandelson.
	Then Larry Summers.
	Bolstein.
	Kareem might refer to the Arakan, by the way, which is another whole freaking mess.
	Martin Novak, Susskind, Chomsky at the end, Chomsky at the end, Rockefeller, Khashoggi.
	This was after Khashoggi was killed, I believe.
	So it might be a different Khashoggji.
	Ambani, Rothschild, Dersh, as in Dershowitz.
	Mandelson Blair again.
	Mandelson and Blair again.
	Mete, I think it's that princess.
	Clinton, Richardson, who was a governor of, I believe, New Mexico and ran for president.
	Some of the Rockefellers.
	Some of the Rockefellers.
	Dubai Castro.
	I'm not sure who Dubai Castro is.
	It might be referring to Sultan bin Sulaym, which I'll get back to.
	And Prince Andrew, Clinton, yeah.
	It's everybody.
	You can see the name.
	So he's just making.
	Exactly, exactly.
	In that random email, you see this network.
	But you see constantly these financial opportunities falling into Epstein's lap.
	Memel outlining a Goldman Sachs opportunity.
	Why does Goldman Sachs need Jeffrey Epstein?
	This guy is a Yemeni politician, Shahr Abdul Haq.
	His English is absolutely atrocious.
	He's trying to mediate some kind of ceasefire in Yemen with the Saudis.
	And he's going to Jeffrey Epstein to help him mediate a ceasefire between the Saudis and the Yemenis.
	This guy, his son, murdered a Norwegian girl and then was taken out of the country magically, never faced any trial.
	So clearly a bad seed, if you will.
	And he's trying to work with Jeffrey Epstein to broker a ceasefire in Yemen.
	I don't understand.
	And then he's sending information about the war in Yemen to Epstein to try to get his support for a ceasefire.
	Why would Epstein be in a position to support a ceasefire between Saudi Arabia?
	Why is Epstein an international diplomat in the first place here?
	Like, what are we seeing here?
	What are we actually seeing here?
	I don't understand.
	Or I think I do understand, but it's evil.
	So this is the link showing you that this guy, his son, killed somebody.
	Here's a wonderful one.
	Here's an absolutely wonderful one.
	We were talking about everybody treating Epstein like a supplicant.
	This is Jeffrey Epstein introducing the former prime minister of Israel, Ehud Barak, to Jabur Ben Yusuf Bin Jasim.
	Let me explain who that is.
	Jabur ben Yusuf bin Jasim Alfani is the grandson of the former prime minister of Qatar.
	He's the grandson of the former prime minister of Qatar, a man who still retains enormous power, including enormous influence over the Qatar Investment Authority, which deploys capital up and down the world and has massive amounts of assets in London and in Paris and all over.
	So the grandfather, Hamad bin Jasim, passed the reins on to his grandson, Skip the Generation, who kind of works as his assistant and operates as a senior official in the interior ministry and then he was moved to the foreign ministry.
	Epstein is introducing him to the former prime minister of Israel.
	The introduction email reads, Ehud, Jabur, Jabur, Ehud.
	That's it.
	That's how informal it is.
	What does Ehud mean?
	Ehud is the guy's name.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	And that's it.
	Oh, oh, right.
	The introduction is Harry, Carl, Carl, these are strange foreign words to me.
	Yeah, yeah, foreign.
	Oh, yeah, I see.
	Yeah.
	Ehud, Jabur, Jabahud.
	There we go.
	Done.
	That's it.
	That's the introduction.
	Because everything was talked about before, etc.
	And then Ehud Barak, the former prime minister, talking to a junior official in the Qatari foreign ministry, gets extremely formal.
	Hi, Jabur.
	Glad to be introduced by Jeffrey Epstein.
	Great friend.
	Sorry for being late in my response.
	And just to do it so informally as well, it's like it's an amazing rise that Jeffrey Epstein made from just being some random Brooklyn maths teacher, right?
	Fortuitous meeting with Leslie Wexner at some point, and then the sky's the limit.
	Yep.
	And then they're talking about where do they meet, but they keep Epstein in copy all the time just to make sure that he's constantly informed.
	And the relationship seems just fundamentally weird.
	Like, how do you get that level of power?
	You see here, this is Peter Mandelson again, but now he's out of government and he's running Global Council, which is a kind of strategy outfit that helps make introductions and do due diligence and this kind of work.
	He's trying to introduce people to Jeffrey Epstein so that the Qataris can make an investment in, I believe, Angola.
	And somehow Jeffrey Epstein is involved in this through Peter Mandelson.
	What's Peter Mandelson involved with it for?
	They're trying to make an investment in the Congo.
	And they're opening bank branches in the Congo.
	And Peter Mandelson and Jeffrey Epstein are involved with Qatari investments in the Congo.
	What am I looking at here?
	Who are the Qataris working for?
	That's the question that's posed.
	Again, emails between Ehud Barak and this guy, Jaber bin Yusuf Althani.
	And you see this kind of constantly.
	You see this constantly.
	Yeah, Steve Jabbur, Jabor, Steve.
	That's his like go-to introduction.
	Now he's introducing the same Qatari guy to Steve Bannon.
	Now I want to pause here because the dates are important.
	This is November 2018.
	In late 2017.
	Bannon's in the White House at this point.
	Bannon's in the White House.
	And what you get after Trump's first foreign visit, which was to Saudi Arabia, where he met with the entire leadership of the Muslim world, and he basically trashed the Muslim world over its support for terrorism.
	So it was the inverse of the famous Obama-Cairo speech in 2009, where Obama goes to Cairo and speaks at the American University of Cairo and says, we want democracy for the Muslim world.
	Almost a decade later, eight years later, the next American president comes in, and it's Donald Trump.
	And he goes to the Muslim world and says, I've had it with your support for terrorism.
	So what happens?
	What happens is that Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt impose a total blockade on Qatar.
	And it was literally a few hours from Qatar being invaded before the State Department and the Pentagon step in and tell the UAE and Saudi Arabia not to invade Qatar.
	This was done with the support of Steve Bannon and in collaboration with Trump.
	But Trump was thwarted by the Saudis and the UAE.
	By the State Department and the Pentagon.
	Now, what got the Saudis and the UAE upset?
	It was that Qatar was constantly backing the Muslim Brotherhood and supporting all kinds of lunatics in the Middle East, including al-Qaeda, including Islamic State.
	They get into trouble with the White House.
	The Pentagon and the State Department defend them.
	And then to facilitate a reconciliation, Steve Bannon gets involved.
	And who's introducing Steve Bannon to the Qataris?
	Jeffrey Epstein.
	What the fuck am I looking at?
	Is this guy in charge?
	What I think is happening then is essentially there are ethnic networks that are running the world.
	Yes.
	And Jeffrey Epstein is clearly very important in what the Jewish network.
	The Jewish network.
	And this network, each network has a domain of influence and connects to other networks, right?
	So this is why the Sultan is emailing Epstein because they're obviously the contact for each other, the entry point between networks.
	Yes.
	So, okay, look, I've got a thing here.
	I want a thing in the Congo or whatever, you know, or the Qatari one, whichever it was.
	Like, you interface with this node in the network.
	So it's not necessarily that Epstein is in charge of any of this.
	And I get the feeling that he's absolutely not in charge of this.
	Because this, this, actually, weirdly, was it Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden?
	His emails remind me of this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Where it's like, look, you know, I'm just connecting, you know, nodes on a network.
	So, like, Epstein himself is not making any decisions, but he's a fixer, right?
	Yes.
	He's, you know, making sure the networks get to where they need to be.
	So the people who actually have the power, who, you know, command, make the decisions, are getting in contact with the other people they need to be in contact with.
	Right.
	Very weirdly similar to the Hunter Biden emails.
	Here's another one.
	And weirdly, Hunter Biden is a massive degenerate as well.
	Yes.
	Well, I was going to say, and one of the other things that just connects all of them is that they all happen to be involved in another fantastic one.
	The Saudis negotiated long and hard to get a massive investment from SoftBank, which is a Japanese bank that does all kinds of things.
	Highly questionable, in my view.
	And then a New York Times financial reporter, also, I believe, of a similar ethnic background, emails Jeffrey Epstein to ask him about it.
	Epstein's reply was silky.
	Might be a reference to the new Silk Road.
	I don't know.
	And then the reply from the journalist was, I was thinking this deal had your fingerprints on it.
	Just one word.
	Just one word.
	Don't.
	I don't have to dignify you with the respect.
	I don't have to deal with you too much.
	Exactly.
	Because whoever my patron is, like, I know that I'm doing a good job for them.
	So whatever you're, you know, you are in no position.
	It does just doesn't matter.
	Yep.
	But it's not just the Middle East.
	And it's not just the Congo.
	And there was another guy emailing Epstein about Angola.
	I'm not sure if I have it here.
	There's a lot of this stuff.
	This is a former Norwegian prime minister with Epstein mediating with the Russians.
	Because at one point, it might be here, I'll see.
	But Putin reached out allegedly, obviously, all of this allegedly.
	Yep.
	Putin reached out to Epstein.
	Putin asked that I meet him in St. Petersburg at the same time of his economic conference.
	I told him, no, if he wants to meet, we need to set aside real time and privacy.
	Right.
	Okay.
	That's interesting, though.
	Go back.
	that's interesting right so you've got you can see levels of power here right Yep.
	So Putin understands Epstein is the entry point into that node.
	Yes.
	Okay, great.
	Putin, of course, himself is going to be the king of a patronage network of his own.
	Yes.
	And so what Epstein is saying here is that, no, okay, like, there's an equality here.
	To confirm the point, the dates matter.
	This is 2013.
	Right.
	And he's emailing Hud Barak, the former prime minister of Israel, who is at the head of another network.
	And he's saying that Putin asked to meet in 2013 before Crimea.
	There were no sanctions on Russia.
	And Putin was launching the St. Petersburg Economic Forum.
	And he was trying to get Western investments into Russia.
	So who did he ask to meet with?
	Epstein.
	Jeffrey Epstein.
	But what's interesting is Epstein, he's not speaking to him as an inferior.
	He seems to be speaking to him as an equal, right?
	Yes.
	It's like, you've requested something.
	I said no, but I'm still willing to meet if you want set aside as if you recognize me as an equal.
	I'm not coming to you, but we can find a place to go and talk face to face.
	In fact, he literally says face to face.
	So that's very interesting.
	I wonder if Putin's more powerful now in this sort of hierarchy of patronage networks.
	I would assume so because of his consolidation over Russia and because of the fact that he survived all of these sanctions and therefore doesn't need these people to the same extent.
	Exactly, yeah.
	He's talking to somebody trying to overthrow Putin.
	And emails are being shared over this discussion.
	There is a guy went missing.
	Yep.
	Here is Epstein talking about Tony Blair.
	And he's talking about Tony Blair in 2009.
	And what he's saying is that...
	Tony Blair literally just out of government.
	Just out of government.
	So he must have known him very well during his time in government, we would assume.
	He wants to build...
	Harry, I can hear something?
	Oh, for some reason.
	Sorry about this.
	I have no idea what you're saying.
	You might hack your phone.
	Okay.
	I guess so.
	My phone has just started playing Bo's show from this morning.
	Okay.
	Which I was listening to, but I didn't do anything.
	I was to say.
	A ballistic missile is hit us.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry about that, though.
	He's talking to Jess Slakey or Staley.
	Staley.
	I haven't looked at all of the names that he's involved in.
	And he's suggesting for the Middle East the equivalent of Aramco, but for finance.
Zelensky's Financial Influence 00:04:41
	JP Morgan should be the oracle of Middle East finance.
	Deutsche Bah and Deutsche Bank is in trouble.
	HSBC, etc.
	They move too slowly.
	We stand to really assist.
	Tony Blair can lead that charge to take control of the Middle East's finances, all of them, with a kind of Aramco equivalent.
	Imagine being Jeffrey Epstein's man, Tony.
	I mean, it goes on and on.
	Here, Epstein says Putin is run by Israelis.
	And here he's talking.
	Zelensky is running.
	Sorry, he's saying Putin said that Zelensky is run by Israelis.
	And he's getting Larry Summers to help with Ukraine because Zelensky has told him that he's looking for help.
	What year was this, sorry?
	2019.
	Right after Zelensky gets elected.
	Yeah.
	So Zelensky gets elected on a peace platform.
	And when did the war start?
	2022?
	2022.
	So three years before the war starts, Zelensky is in touch with Epstein.
	And he's asking for help.
	And Epstein is arranging help from Larry Summers to the Ukrainians.
	Okay.
	Man, how has he got this power?
	Good question.
	Epstein brags that he represents Rothschilds.
	Ah, here we go.
	He brags that he represents the Rothschilds here and figure out a way for the bank to do something in management tech.
	I represent the Rothschilds.
	As you probably know, this isn't a secret or anything.
	No, There we go.
	2016, after his conviction, 2016.
	This is exactly my point.
	This sounds just like...
	And he's talking with Peter Thiel.
	Yeah.
	He's talking to Peter Thiel.
	This is just like Hunter Biden negotiating with the Chinese or with Burisma and the Ukrainians or the Russians or whatever on behalf of Joe Biden.
	Yes.
	Exactly the same.
	And it's really interesting how you choose a weird degenerate to be your negotiator.
	And I actually wonder if it's about them being sort of sociable, actually.
	Might be.
	There's a personality type.
	Yeah, okay.
	He can get along with any other degenerate.
	Exactly.
	He gets along with everyone.
	He's got drugs.
	He's got girls.
	Yep.
	Alcohol.
	He likes to spend his time partying.
	I think if they're degenerates as well, it makes them easier to control because you can keep them on the list.
	Yeah, but not just that.
	It's like essentially, if you're like, right, I need to get that guy over.
	Well, what am I offering him?
	Well, you're going to have a really good time if you come to Hunter Biden's place or Jeffrey Epstein's place.
	You're going to get drugs, you're going to get alcohol, you're going to get women, you're going to have a brilliant time, and then we'll sign this deal and everything will be great.
	And so it's well worth your time, not just financially and economically, but personally to go.
	So just to understand how much he represents the Rothschilds, he's talking about modernizing the Rothschilds banking institutions because it's all prehistoric.
	Yes.
	And they have a best client list in the world, but everything they have is antiquated.
	And so he's in a position to go between the Rothschilds and Peter Thiel, who's a technology genius, and figure out a way to modernize the Rothschild banking system.
	So everything involving finance and deals, he's somehow involved with it.
	And again, Peter Mandelson.
	Anyone in India, China, Japan that might want the endorsement of Leonardo DiCaprio.
	I mean, that's just hilarious.
	Sorry, what?
	I guess we now know who was supplying DiCaprio's girlfriends.
	Here he is providing the Rothschilds with new employees.
	So he meets the former CEO of Deutsche Bank, former CFO of BMW Germany, born in South America.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	That's weird, isn't it?
	But there's a lot of Jewish people in South America.
	remember that and i see what you're talking about down there you know and he introduces introduces the guy to adriana de rothschild He just makes that introduction.
	Adriana, this person, this person, Adriana.
	Here are the Rothschilds emailing him again.
	He has a lunch with Bill Richardson, or he has a talk with Bill Richardson about an interesting opportunity.
	Bill Richardson is the former governor of New Mexico.
	Right.
	The state where he had his ranch.
	Oh, yes, of course.
	And it goes on and on.
Oligarchs' Web of Influence 00:07:07
	Here he's saying that Maxwell was killed by Mossad.
	Elaine's father was killed by Mossad because he tried to get 400 million pounds out of them.
	Otherwise, he'd expose their secrets.
	And then he gets whacked.
	Falls off his boat.
	Falls off his boat.
	That's what you're talking about.
	Yep.
	It's mysteriously false.
	Yep.
	State funeral in Israel.
	I mean, it just goes on and on.
	Here he's trying to introduce Ehud Barak to Len Blavitnik.
	And Len Blavnik is a Ukrainian British-American businessman and philanthropist worth $26.5 billion.
	And he's being introduced to the former prime minister of Israel by Jeffrey Epstein because they're all part of the same network.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And his best friend, Viktor Vexelberg, or whatever his name is, also another Russian-Israeli businessman and oligarch.
	Basically, these are the people who took over the aluminum industry in the Soviet Union.
	They're connected to Epstein.
	They're connected to the Russians.
	And they all talk to each other through him.
	And then you get the Daily Mail saying that it was a KGB honey trap.
	I think you might have missed the point there a bit, Daily Mail.
	KGB?
	Does it look like the KGB?
	Does any of this the NKVD circa 1924, but not so much anymore?
	I'm sure they did use Russian girls to get compromise on famous figures.
	Absolutely true.
	But was it the KGB?
	Eastern Europe is like known for just being the trafficking hotspot of the world.
	It's not that difficult to get girls from there, sadly.
	The last thing that I wanted to mention is that he does this kind of thing.
	He's a racial supremacist.
	Not just a racial supremacist.
	He's obviously a racial supremacist.
	And if you look at what he says about Goyem and or what people around him say about Goyim, actually, you sort of get a certain picture.
	And just to be clear, Goyim does not just mean like white people, it means literally everybody.
	Non-Jewish people.
	Everybody else.
	Everybody else.
	Genuinely derogatory term.
	Yes.
	But here he is somehow getting in between the son of Larry Fink and his girlfriend and ending up knowing the full sordid details of their relationship, including the son of Larry Fink allegedly pressuring his girlfriend at the time into having an abortion and her saying, No, I'm a good Russian girl.
	We don't do that.
	My parents don't want me to do it.
	Meaning that at some point in 2011, he gained leverage over Larry Fink.
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly.
	Just want to keep throwing more than that.
	Keep throwing allegedly every two seconds in your head because we can't prove this.
	But the texts are there and you can read them.
	You have to have a load of weird messages to be sending if it's just nothing.
	And you kind of see this world where if you try to explain to your normie friends that a bunch of degenerates are all in the financial sector, linked together by Jeffrey Epstein, so that when an Indian billionaire wants to help the Indian government reach out to the Trump admin, it goes to Epstein.
	When you want an investment in mining in Angola, you go to Epstein.
	When the Qataris want to invest in Congo, they go to Epstein.
	And you see these reams of emails about business opportunities.
	When Peter Mandelson finds out that the British government might have to sell some assets, he lets Epstein know.
	And you see this thing happening where all of these oligarchs are in the same network involving this deeply depraved individual and others like him who look on the face of it to be quite possibly allegedly very depraved.
	And you say, this is actually how the world is run.
	It's run through these networks, ethnic networks, national networks that focus on their ability to make money, that don't want to touch real assets, that want to build wealth through finance.
	You sound like a lunatic.
	But it all kind of makes sense because how else would you do it if you were doing these things, right?
	Exactly.
	As in, because you're not moving real assets, you are moving numbers in spreadsheets on databases.
	Yes.
	You are moving things that are basically hypothetical and you're moving them across borders, like international borders, and to through networks over which you have no personal direct influence.
	This is a process that is going to be leaky.
	Yes.
	There's going to be a huge amount of leakage unless you have someone that is very trustworthy and reliable and can be the endorsement between two other nodes in the network.
	And so if, okay, Jeffrey Epstein works for the Rothschilds and this is, I need someone who is going to essentially tie this network together so I can get this business deal in exchange for this, blah, blah, blah, this investment in the Congo, whatever it is.
	Like you would need some form of reliable system for this, right?
	And you would need someone who is deeply involved and invested in a way that they can't just simply say, you know, I'm resigning.
	The problem is that this reliability is a result of shared depravity.
	Yes.
	And you end up with people like Mandelson who will sell state secrets, essentially, that could cost the British public billions and billions and billions for 50,000 quid.
	Yes.
	Allegedly.
	And therefore, because of the depravity at the top, you end up with everybody who is a normal human being being absolutely and completely screwed and they have zero regard for this.
	Oh, they're contemptuous.
	They're totally contemptuous.
	And if you look further, you'll see, for example, Woody Allen's wife, who I think used to be his stepdaughter.
	I was going to say, yeah, that's the one who used to be his stepdaughter saying that the 15-year-old who got involved with Anthony Wiener was the one who was at fault and she wheeled him in and she entrapped him rather than the other way around.
	So you get this complete moral perversity at the top because the perversity is what ties them together and builds trust between them because they have no loyalty to their countries.
	And it also cements them in the network, which is why you've got the people, you know who's outside of the network who is trying to get in because they're very supplicant, deferential.
	And the people who are in the network who can't be kicked out are just like one word, yeah, don't care, yeah, yeah, this, this, yeah, exactly.
	You know, you can, you can see the structure of the network there.
The Structure of Power 00:00:59
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I hate to say it, but we're out of time.
	You've got your show in half an hour.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So that's our deep dive.
	And this is just like this is the surface level.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	It's not a deep dive.
	This is as deep dive as we could have done in the time and given the amount of information that's around.
	There's so much there.
	And more is likely to come up.
	But I think this, like you've, this was the most interesting part for me because this is actually the most revelatory.
	This is how like Putin seeking a meeting with Epstein and being turned down.
	Yeah.
	But it's not like Putin would have himself personally emailed.
	It would have been Putin's degenerate fixer, would have been in contact with Epstein, who would have been in contact with the Qatari's degenerate fixer and things like this.
	So anyway, the point being, this is how the world appears to be actually run, which is a bit concerning.
	But anyway, if you appreciate what we've done, sign up, support us, you know how it is.
	And we'll be back in half an hour for real politique.
	So thanks for joining us, folks.

Chapters

00:00:00 Epstein Files Unveiled
00:14:40 Approaching Epstein Respectfully
00:23:10 Bill Gates' Russian Prostitute Scandal
00:26:36 Epstein Emails: Speculation and Allegations
00:42:14 Evidently Coded Language
00:50:13 Revealing The Records
00:57:26 Macron's Connections
01:06:34 Qatar's Transhumanist Plot
01:22:00 Zelensky's Financial Influence
01:26:42 Oligarchs' Web of Influence
01:33:49 The Structure of Power