The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1331

Jan. 13, 2026 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1331

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Scarcity Creates Value 00:03:33
	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
	It is number 1331.
	Can you believe that?
	It's been a long time, isn't it?
	It's five years old, isn't it now?
	Yeah.
	It's Tuesday the 13th of January 2026.
	I'm joined by Carl Benjamin.
	Hello.
	All right.
	I'm all right.
	And today we're going to talk about liberal white women are not okay.
	Why are they not okay?
	We'll get into that.
	I'm going to talk about the strange death of crypto Twitter.
	Yeah.
	But this is good because it tells us about how the Twitter algorithm works.
	And it's actually, honestly, the crypto guys are taking it really badly, but it kind of makes sense.
	I don't know much about it, so I'm going to be learning in real time with you.
	And I'm going to do a segment all about the latest defection to reform of that Boris Chancellor fella, Iraqi-born dude.
	We're going to talk about that.
	Why?
	What's the thinking behind that?
	How is that in their interests?
	All right.
	So should we just jump straight in?
	No, we should chill Islander first.
	Oh.
	Islander magazine.
	It's the best magazine.
	Get it now.
	Buy it.
	To be wild stocks last.
	Yeah, no, no.
	This, so this is the fastest selling issue of Islander that we've had.
	And it is also the best.
	So there is a limited print run on it.
	Get it while you can.
	Because every day I get people going, can I get a copy of Islander 2 or 1?
	No, you can't.
	Once it's gone, it's gone.
	We're never reprinting them.
	They're a moment in history.
	You have to be there for it.
	And if you weren't there for it, well.
	That has always been your line on it, hasn't it?
	100%.
	Well, scarcity creates value, doesn't it?
	It's not just that, though.
	I mean, if that were the case, why wouldn't we sell it for more, right?
	15 quid is actually not that much.
	But it's more that they represent a moment in time that we were living through, right?
	Part of the story.
	I mean, the entire issue is about heroism.
	And the thing about heroism, it's predicated on narratives, right?
	You don't have a hero unless you have a narrative.
	And I want people to start thinking of themselves in heroic terms, as in you are part of a narrative.
	Your story of yourself, your story of your civilization, all of these things matter.
	And Islander, the policy of not reprinting Islander has always been a part of that.
	It's like, look, this event in your story, you know, if you've been there from the beginning, then you can chart like how you can feel how the story has been told throughout the process and the way the winds were blowing and how, like, for example, the third issue of Islander, if you go back and think about the kind of mindset and the mood of the people, we were in a bit of a depression there.
	You know, it's like things were looking quite bleak.
	And so it's the wintry edition where like, you know, we're in the nadir and you can feel us coming out.
	Actually, there's progress that has been made, right?
	We're actually things are getting stronger.
	The right is getting more powerful.
	And the argument from our side is going everywhere now.
	I don't know whether you noticed, but Elon just retweeted my interview on Andrew Gold, literally like 10 minutes before we came on the podcast, saying a very reasonable position where I'm basically explaining, look, the English of a right to say no, we've had enough, right?
	And so it's like, compared to where we were for Islander 3, where we felt that we were in the wilderness, in the depths of winter, right?
	We have come a long way.
	And so, yeah, the sort of, you know, the heroic aspect, you're like, the point is the whole, the thing tells a meta story.
	And this is why we don't reprint it.
Liberal White Women's Dilemma 00:07:14
	It's not just being cynical.
	I mean, if we were being cynical, we'd keep it on sale all the time so we could continue making sales longer because they're evergreen essays in it.
	They're not just like, you know, they're not about breaking news.
	It's about the psyche of the West.
	But anyway, that's why you should go and get it.
	It's an amazing thing.
	And you won't be able to get it in the future.
	Anyway.
	And Elon, when are you coming on?
	Always welcome, Elon.
	Anyway, so let's move on.
	So liberal white women have always had a strange way of engaging with politics.
	Now, I want to be really clear that I am specifically delineating a subsection of this demographic, right?
	So white women in America in general, I think at the last election broke 56% for Trump.
	So most white women in America are right-wing or vote right-wing and voted for Trump.
	And then you've got about a third of, so it roughly breaks down into thirds in America.
	You've got third Republican, third Democrat, and then third swing voters, independents.
	And so Trump got 56% of white women.
	And then out of the 44%, a section of that, probably something like 15, 20%, something like that, are independent swing voters.
	And then you're into the sort of like hardcore Democrat-leaning women.
	And then out of those, you're going to have about 8-10% who are like hardcore activists, people who are completely, completely bought in to all of the narratives, all of the ideology of leftism.
	And we see this quite a lot.
	They come out and they're quite active a lot of the time, where they'll dress in their handmaid's tails, outfits.
	Again, they just create such stunning right-wing propaganda.
	Yes, yes, that sounds brilliant.
	I'm up for liberal women being put in the handmaid's tail.
	And clearly they are too.
	It all has a kind of psychosexual dynamic to it.
	What a weird thing.
	I've never read the books or watched the TV films, although I'm still aware of the general narrative of the show and I know all that, but you've got to be pretty far gone to dress up and turn up in public like that, right?
	I mean, what are you thinking?
	I mean, you're thinking you're under the heel of patriarchy.
	Forcibly impregnated to keep the human race going, which obviously isn't happening and is not happening until next year, Project 2025.
	So I don't know what you're worried about, right?
	No, obviously, this is ludicrous, extreme left-wing liberal women who view any infringement on the power and ability of women to do anything they want as a form of oppression.
	As in, what, abortion?
	That's just health care, isn't it?
	I should be able to kill as many babies as I.
	No, no, no, that's a murder.
	Like, you've just killed a baby and you conceived of the baby willingly.
	You knew what you were going to do.
	You knew this was a potential outcome when you had sex, unprotected, and now you want to commit a murder because you're upset that this will change your life.
	Sorry, I'm not down for that, actually.
	You know, especially not up until the point of birth.
	Of course.
	This is demented, actually.
	And these women are like, right, this is just like the handmaid's tail.
	It's like, no, the problem is you.
	Where's your husband?
	Oh, you don't have a husband, right?
	Okay.
	So.
	They've lost all perspective by this stage.
	Yeah.
	It seems to me.
	Exactly.
	They've lost all perspective.
	And this is coming back to them.
	Now, after the killing of Renee Good, the white liberal women extremists are not taking well.
	Now, I don't want to go over the actual events of Renee Good.
	That's not what I'm talking about.
	It's the reaction to that.
	Because it's very split.
	Very, very split.
	The Republicans are like, well, she was in a car and she accelerated and clipped this ICE agent.
	And therefore, he, in the moment, felt as if he was under attack.
	I mean, he'd already been dragged previously by someone else.
	And so he drew his gun and shot her in self-defense.
	And of course, the Democrats are like, well, she was trying to turn away.
	Maybe she didn't mean to clip him or whatever.
	I'm sure she didn't.
	This is an act of murder.
	It's like, well, okay, but what's she doing playing with fire anyway?
	Yeah, why is she even there?
	Shouldn't she be at home?
	Well, yeah.
	Why is she even there?
	Why isn't she just following instructions?
	You're not actually at liberty to leave when you're being detained.
	So, like, why are you playing with firing, you know?
	And so whether you're on either side of this, it doesn't really matter.
	What matters is what you take away from it.
	And a lot of them are freaking.
	like we'll just give an example you see the point right Yeah.
	She's kind of losing it.
	Well, Ed Dutton makes a good point about women like this.
	Well, in the 16th century, people would call a witch.
	Yeah.
	Or not, not even that.
	These women would be the hardcore Christian flagellants.
	Right, yeah, that's a good one.
	They would be the ones walking through the streets, whipping themselves, or they would join the Cathars and become the perfect ones and throw themselves into the fire.
	There's always going to be a contingent of women who are on the sort of radical ideological end of whatever is happening.
	And so, I mean, with the Cathars in particular, the Cathar heresy, it was an extreme, for anyone who doesn't know, it's an extremely austere Christian heresy in the south of France in the 13th, 14th, and 15th centuries, that sort of time period.
	And it tended that women would convert to it.
	And the main premise of the heresy is that it stigmatized the material world.
	Everything about the material world was fallen and evil, and the true God was beyond that.
	And so the ultimate aim of the Cathar heresy is to essentially rescind yourself from materialism entirely, the material world entirely.
	So the women become celibates and they eat fish and vegetables and they spend their lives in prayer and in penitence and being in poverty and things like this.
	And when the Crusaders decided Raitkov had enough of this, they would just willingly throw themselves on the pyre in order to sacrifice themselves for their religion.
	And I think that's the same kind of attitude that we're seeing here.
	For anyone who might be interested, on the website, the lotusetas.com, we did a bit all about Simon de Montfort at one point on my show Epochs.
	And Simon de Montfort's father, another Simon de Montford, was involved in all of that.
	Yes.
	And we spend a good half hour, don't we, at least talking about that?
	It's a while, and he's an absolute Chad, so it's well worth your time.
	But the thing about this, and this you can see the pathology that these women have, because this is why I'm comparing them to the sort of the Cathars or some sort of Christian heretics, is because they have taken an idea to its most extreme.
White Liberal Women's Fears 00:15:30
	Now, in previous eras, yeah, it would have been an extreme form of Christianity, but now it's an extreme form of liberalism.
	And so listen to this.
	So, I mean, I'm just walking here on kind of just day-to-day because I was like, I don't know if it's the right thing to do.
	It feels kind of wrong being here in some way.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Like, where that stems from.
	Like, I don't.
	I mean, part of it is being like a white woman that I'm privileged and I have a lot of privilege.
	So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary when black and brown people have been experiencing this for a long time.
	This isn't new for them.
	And so I don't know if that makes any sense in that way.
	How did you decide that you should be here?
	Are you still figuring that out?
	Well, I work like two miles from here.
	So driving by, just, I don't, you know, it's like, I'm here.
	I'm two miles.
	I can stop.
	You can see she feels guilty crying over Renee Good because she's a white woman.
	Renee Goode was a white woman.
	And black and brown people have been dealing with this for a long time.
	And so she feels guilty about feeling sad for the woman that was killed by ICE.
	It's like, okay, that's it's you are more than entitled to feel sad as a white woman because another white woman has been killed and you feel like oh, this is a Hammy's tail, Ice are going to come for me.
	I, you know, somehow it like that is mental, right?
	I just feel like this person, whoever he is, is just terribly, terribly confused.
	It's like almost suffering from some sort of psychosis or something.
	Like, so terribly, I was going to say fragile.
	I know that's a word that gets stone round all the time.
	Or you're fragile, you're a snowflake.
	I don't mean it like that.
	I mean, genuinely, really.
	Yeah.
	Sort of emotionally very, very, very fragile.
	Doesn't know what to think, doesn't know how to feel.
	Yeah.
	All those things.
	She could barely get a sentence out.
	Yeah, and I just want to be clear.
	This isn't about dunking on these women.
	No, no.
	I feel sorry for that individual, to be perfectly honest.
	I feel sorry for someone like that.
	Exactly.
	They're lost.
	It's a lost soul, it seems to me.
	Yeah, they're like deranged.
	And again, I'm not trying to be mean when I say that, but literally, like, unable to think clearly about what has actually happened here and their place in it.
	And so now they're just like crying in the street, saying, I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to cry.
	It's like, dude, you're fine.
	Imagine feeling so guilty that it brought you to tears and your own tears made you feel more guilty.
	Yeah.
	What is that?
	Wow.
	I mean, who has done that to you?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	That's not healthy.
	Yeah.
	That's not healthy.
	No.
	It's not kind of you.
	And this lady nails it, right?
	So about halfway in.
	She goes through this, as you can see, this compilation of white liberal women who are just freaking out about all of this, right?
	And then I think it's about here that she starts explaining it.
	Healthy home and family, a woman will find a place to put all of that.
	The natural instinct to sacrifice yourself for your children gets misapplied in all the wrong directions.
	You want to know why so many liberal women are out there playing hero for criminal aliens and gender-confused perverts and cultures that hate them?
	It's because they believe they have identified groups of people who need them when no one else does.
	We destroyed the family and we handed a generation of women a bunch of feminist lies and progressive slop in its place.
	And this is the natural result.
	That's the important thing.
	Fair take, right?
	I can't argue with it, really, can you?
	These women believe that these communities need them.
	But the thing is, these communities don't care at all.
	I mean, like, one of the things about the Renee Good stuff is I saw a load of black Twitter being like, you're not allowed to say, say her name.
	That's for black women only.
	It's like, really, you're patrolling that at this point, right?
	Like, these people, these people are broken up over this, and they're like, we don't care about you.
	And it's like, right, there we go.
	They don't care about you.
	These people don't need you.
	And the women whose maternal instinct has run out of control are honestly going to kind of sacrifice themselves in order to help.
	I mean, this is just another great example, right?
	It's quite a long one, so it's about 55 seconds in.
	This is another great example of a woman who is just basically, she's gone far too far, right?
	So she, in the beginning of this, you can see that she's interfered with ICE, and they have to chase her through the streets.
	And you get this from the ICE perspective.
	And eventually she pulls over.
	It's like, listen, love, what are you doing?
	Right?
	What are you doing?
	I'm going to interfere with ICE, arresting some illegal aliens and deporting them, right?
	Because you think those people need you, right?
	But actually, there are other people who need you.
	Ma'am, you're MP with the federal investigation.
	Do you have your own camera?
	Do you actually have news before you have a vehicle?
	Your case will be referred over to you.
	And you will be arrested.
	This is your last and final warning.
	Hold on a second, guys.
	Give me your license, please.
	I don't know.
	What can I tell you?
	You have policies in danger if you ever.
	I don't have time.
	Put your vehicle in park and shut it off, please.
	I understand, but you are impeding.
	Look where you are at.
	You are almost causing the Nazi.
	You are surrounded by federal labour men.
	I am the Deputy Philadelphia Director here, man.
	We're not.
	Stand by.
	We're running the name.
	We're going to be for the case of her law enforcement action.
	Please, please, please.
	I'm just a nun, please.
	Kylie, you turn around and get out of here.
	I'm getting out of here.
	Here you go.
	Slow down.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	What did you think you were doing?
	Your husband is going to be furious.
	Get off the internet.
	What do you mean?
	Oh, I've got to save these criminal aliens from ICE.
	I'm going to be a hip.
	No, you're not.
	You're going to put yourself and your children in danger.
	You're going to ruin your life.
	You're going to ruin your family.
	Your husband's going to get a phone call at work and be like, sorry, my wife's what?
	She said under arrest.
	Why?
	She ran an ICE agent or whatever she had done.
	And then she tried to flee in her car.
	What?
	Like, what are you doing?
	There are people who actually depend on you.
	And it's not the criminal aliens who ICE needs to deport.
	And then you can see how afraid she is.
	Oh, wait, I have now somehow managed to interface with the hard power of the state.
	These guys have an authority to shoot people who they think are trying to kill them.
	Like this, the guy who killed Renee, he's got a reasonable case that he felt threatened when she drove.
	He's going to get off.
	Yeah, I saw a headline saying he will not be charged.
	No, absolutely not.
	He's going to be just fine because he has a reasonable defense.
	And I got hit by her car.
	I didn't know she wasn't going to run me over.
	You know, you can sit there and armchair general it all you like, but in the moment, I was terrified.
	And this has happened to me before.
	So I had a reasonable, you know, and he's going to be fine.
	And a woman lost her life.
	And this woman could have gone down the same route.
	And then she was like, oh, God, what the f ⁇ am I doing?
	It's like, yeah, you're being a zealot, right?
	You are being an insane zealot for an ideology that has really confused you about what your actual priorities in life are.
	Like, this is mad.
	Yeah.
	How the hell does it come that a suburban mum going like, I'm going to be, I'm going to intercede.
	Like, you know, has she been reading Islander?
	I don't know.
	Like, what is she doing?
	And the defense that when it comes to it, I'm just a mum.
	I'm just a mum.
	I'm just a mum.
	Well, then, don't do any of these things.
	Yeah, well, act like one then.
	Yeah.
	Follow the rules.
	You know, that's what they're there for.
	I mean, they're there to help you.
	Like, why does the Department of Homeland Security have to tweet out, quote, do not bring your baby to a riot?
	Sorry.
	Let's go back to the other woman.
	They think there's someone who depends on them.
	No, there is someone who depends on them.
	Your baby.
	You don't endanger your child, your babies by taking them to riots.
	But this is the derangement that has infected this section of American life.
	Like this.
	I don't know whether they're single or not.
	I mean, I'm sure that a lot of them aren't.
	But like the excessively online liberal white woman who thinks I have to save the immigrants, the illegal immigrants, from the law justly catching up with them.
	No, you don't.
	You are mental.
	What are you doing?
	They've got a perverse concept of what justice is.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	They're acting on behalf in favor of justice.
	And it's like, no, you're doing the exact opposite.
	You're impeding justice.
	And you're endangering yourself.
	Just see what Homeland's actually retweeted there, saying some Minneapolis reporters, protesters, sorry, are showing up with their babies as shields from law enforcement.
	I mean...
	What are you doing?
	Is there anything lower?
	That's pretty.
	It's almost as low as you could go.
	Right.
	I mean, you have, you've certainly lost all perspective if you decide to do that.
	Certainly.
	And the thing is, if you, like the first one screeching, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me.
	If you think these are lunatics, trigger-happy lunatics who will quite happily shoot anyone for getting in their way, well then if you take your child, then I mean, I don't think it's going to happen, but you think that they might shoot your child, that they might shoot your baby.
	And that's got to be in your mind if you think these are trigger-happy lunatics.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So you must be knowingly endangering your baby at that point.
	Yeah, if you took it as authentically as a shield.
	then that that's but like what what are you doing And really, I just don't think these people should be involved in politics, right?
	These people should be involved with the local bake sale.
	They should be involved.
	Yeah.
	I laugh, but you're right.
	Yeah.
	Old Deirdre has actually, you know, hasn't got any firewood for the fire, and so she's cold.
	So can you go and arrange, you know, old Ted over there to go cut some fire for her and then you can deliver it to her later, right?
	They should be doing small-scale community things where their actions really matter and actually people are really relying on them and they don't have to interface with the government or rights or anything like that.
	No, no, no.
	Just do good things in your local communities.
	That's what these women should be doing.
	Not trying to intercede with ICE agents for immigrant rapists or whatever or fraudsters or whatever they're doing.
	Like this is way above their station.
	You should not be doing any of this.
	That old lady we saw earlier who's saying, shoot me, shoot me.
	I mean, she, someone like that anyway, has sort of, in my opinion, has basically completely lost their mind that it's not that they're not doing any good whatsoever in the public discourse in the public square, whatever.
	And I know it's an old cliche to accuse women of being hysterical, but that's hysterical behavior.
	Yeah.
	Like, truly, in the true sense of that word, she's hysterical.
	Yes.
	It's best for her and the wider world if she just goes home.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that woman was older.
	She should have grandchildren.
	She should be concerned about what her grandchildren ate at school that day.
	She shouldn't be worried about whether Somalis are going to get deported for fraud, right?
	That's not your business.
	Of all things as well, if there was some sort of wider social issue where there was an element of injustice and it was a grey era and all that sort of thing.
	No, but we're talking about Somalis in Minnesota.
	Emitting massive amounts of fraud and being in large number illegals.
	This is a black and white issue.
	There are not shades of grey here.
	These people did something wrong and they deserve the punishment.
	You're choosing this as the hill to get yourself suicided by cop, are you?
	Yes.
	You're choosing this issue.
	Yeah.
	And so this is something that's clearly a part of a kind of ideological contagion within this kind of this community, right?
	I mean, you've got like people like Sarah Stalker, who's just, I think she was Tennessee or someone like that.
	She said, you know, every day I have guilt for being white and my kids should too.
	And she says, in this, we shouldn't, essentially she says, we shouldn't ignore it when kids start questioning race and stuff.
	We should use it as an opportunity to essentially instill white guilt into them.
	It's just like, that's horrific.
	That's evil.
	What are you doing?
	It's evil.
	And then you've got Robin D'Angelo, of course.
	You can go over to literacies.com and watch my Conservatives' Guide to White Fragility because I spent a lot of time studying Robin DiAngelo's work and then I went to the German parliament at the request of the AFD and explained it to them at great length.
	And it really is, essentially, The Christian idea of original sin that has been transposed into leftist politics.
	And the thing is, in this, D'Angelo just basically says as much.
	I was raised Catholic.
	You may be surprised that the single image I use to capture the concept of white supremacy is Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel, God creating man.
	You know, where God is in a cloud and there's all these angels and he's reaching out and he's touching, I don't know who that is, David or something.
	Adam, I think.
	And God is white and David's white and the angels are white.
	Like that, that is the perfect convergence of white supremacy, patriarchy.
	And, you know, both you and I, let's imagine, I don't know how you were raised.
	I was raised Catholic.
	So I saw many images like that as a child.
	Right.
	So the point being, she's instead of being a hardcore Catholic who views things in the intensely religious frame that they would have done in like the 16th, 17th century or something like that.
	No, she's a modern 21st century woman.
	And so she views these things intensely in the extreme left liberal frame.
	And the original sin has become white guilt.
	It's crystal clear to me.
	Yeah, in her insane worldview.
	Yeah, it's hard baked into white people.
	Yes.
	Their guilt.
	Yeah, which is literally, I mean, Ferras has written an article about this saying, look, this is genuinely the Christian doctrine of original sin, just taken out of its context, because at least Christianity is all about forgiveness and humility and being a good person in the now, right?
	Wokeism isn't any of that.
	Wokeism is, oh, you have original sin, but I hate you.
	And I want you destroyed.
No Forgiveness, No Redemption 00:15:42
	And there's no forgiveness.
	There's no redemption.
	And that's why they're all, I feel guilty.
	Okay, well, if you were a Christian, you'd be able to purge these feelings through the process of, you know, going through the rituals and doing the things that Christians do.
	But with woke, it just gets bottled up.
	There's no getting rid of this.
	You can't go to a confession.
	There's no absolution.
	There's nothing you can do.
	There's no good works, you know, apart from protesting, which even then there's no like formalized structure to like get rid of the feelings.
	No, you have the original sin, but it's bottled up forever.
	Well, that was what was going to be one of the next things I was going to say is that it's different to original sin in so far that no amount of contrition is enough.
	No amount of confession.
	There is no forgiveness for it.
	Correct.
	And so that's truly, truly.
	Demented.
	Yeah.
	It's genuinely demented.
	Malevolent, yeah.
	Evil.
	It's terrible, horrible.
	Absolutely.
	And I genuinely think this is what's driving this segment of liberal white women absolutely bonkers.
	I think it's driving them completely mad because they look around and go, well, I'm quite lucky.
	I'm privileged.
	I have a nice life.
	I have a nice husband who, you know, we both earn a nice wage and we follow the rules and we obey the laws and we do the right things.
	And some people don't have that.
	It's like, yeah, okay, some people don't have that.
	But that's not because you took it from them.
	Right.
	And it's not.
	And honestly, in the case of like Somali fraudsters, there's nothing you can do to raise them up to your level.
	That can never happen.
	They will never follow the right process to get to your point.
	And those that do will get to your point and will end up being in Abel and go, yeah, no, deport those guys.
	You know, why would you want those in your country?
	You know, they're just a bunch of scammers and fraudsters who broke it illegally.
	Get rid of them.
	You know, like the law-abiding, rule-following, hard-working Somalis, you know, whichever, whatever constituency that is in that community, they would want them gone too.
	You know, but you are sat there with this irrepressible guilt you can't get rid of.
	And because you can't get rid of it, it leads you to do mental things and get yourself in positions where, like, this woman in particular, it's like, you know, I'm pretty sure this is the point where she's like, you know what?
	Maybe I just need to not do this.
	Yeah, have I taken a wrong turn somewhere?
	Yeah.
	Have I got something wrong in my worldview?
	Yeah.
	It's absolutely mad.
	And like I said, I feel sorry for them.
	I feel sorry that they have a religion that doesn't allow them to arrive at the point that Christianity would have allowed them to arrive at.
	It's mimicking the same moral structures.
	It's got some of the same precepts.
	It just doesn't have those other areas that allow it to be a coherent and wholesome worldview rather than an insane, guilt-ridden, destructive one.
	Luke says, the more I see these liberal women, the more I think MGTOW is right.
	Publican women.
	No, no, again, it's most women voted for Trump, right?
	It's not all women.
	And I do want us to be very clear about that.
	It's not all women.
	It is actually about 10% of the population are these sort of radical left-wing liberal women who want to be deeply religious because they want to feel their spirit is saved.
	That's what this is all about.
	They want to feel that they're on good terms with the universe.
	That's what they're trying to get to.
	And because the religion that they have doesn't allow that, they are kind of losing their minds.
	This is why women must be married and have 10 kids.
	Okay, come back.
	You don't need 10 kids.
	Although that would be impressive.
	That way women will focus on what's particular and real, not weird, abstract ideas.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Like this sort of high-level politics is not what these women were designed for.
	These women were designed to make sure that in their local communities, everything was going really well.
	Like evolutionarily, that's their role in life.
	And they're applying that to things where it's just not appropriate.
	It's just not appropriate.
	No, you do not need to worry about the Somali community.
	Anyway, we'll move on.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	A few more chats.
	It's all right.
	We'll get time issue.
	All right.
	Well, so let's talk a little bit about reform, Nigel Farage, and the Sahari defection.
	Shall we?
	A bit of an odd one.
	You saw this coming.
	I woke up this morning.
	Oh, thank God Nadeem Zahawi has defected to reform.
	Who thought about him?
	Yeah.
	Thank God.
	It lends so much gravitas to reform, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	It reflects so well on reform.
	It's very does it, though.
	Okay, well, so here's me.
	Here's a headline.
	Pami.
	Tories say Zahawi peerage request turned down before defection to reform UK.
	So first thing to say about it is that he was trying to get a peerage.
	He was trying to become ennobled, become the Lord Zahari, and it just wasn't going to happen.
	He basically got a no on that.
	Well, it's because of the tax issues.
	Right.
	So there's a scandal in his past about tax.
	So they were like, no.
	So it's a no on that.
	And now it affects the reform.
	Now he decides it's the right thing to do to join reform.
	Yeah, all right, mate.
	If you say so.
	Should we have a quick just listen to this?
	Just listen to this.
	If you don't yet realise that Britain needs reform, you know, in your heart of hearts that our wonderful country is sick.
	How many of you at home have thought to yourselves that nothing works today?
	I know I have, and I have it a damn sight easier than most people.
	That is why I'm standing here today as the newest member of Reform UK.
	I mean, he's obviously not wrong, but that's kind of trite to say at this point.
	Yeah, it's like nothing really works in Britain.
	Whose fault's that?
	You don't happen to have been in the government that caused that, did you?
	Deem?
	Yeah, you weren't right at the pinnacle of government for years.
	You weren't the treasurer or something, were you?
	Yeah.
	Like, yeah, we know nothing works.
	And I just don't believe.
	I just not buying the faux sincerity of it all.
	Yeah.
	That suddenly he's decided the correct political move is to join reform.
	No, it's because he lost his seat in 2024.
	He didn't even try and stand for it, right?
	But he knew he was going to lose it.
	Pure cowardice, political cowardice.
	Richie Senak and the 250 Conservative MPs who got politically slaughtered in the 2024 election.
	He was one of them.
	Yeah, right, yeah.
	And so he knew it was not going to happen, so he didn't run.
	Yeah.
	That's like, it's kind of pathetic, isn't it?
	I think.
	Yeah.
	Sort of politically.
	It looks then like an attempt to sort of worm his way back in, right?
	Yeah.
	Oh, the wind is with Nigel at the moment.
	Okay, well, why don't I just sidle over to that aisle?
	And yeah, no, the country's sick.
	It needs reform.
	Don't know how this happened.
	Yeah.
	Don't know who was a government when it caused this, but it's rough.
	Must have been Keir Starmer or something.
	No, it was the Conservatives between 2019 and 2024 who did this to us.
	All of it.
	In my opinion, he's someone that should really answer for his crimes and misdemeanours during government.
	Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
	Absolutely answer for that.
	Not just sidle over and be back in government under Nige.
	Don't get me wrong.
	Prior to that, Labour were terrible.
	They also did some of this to us.
	And Keir Starmer is also doing other things to us.
	But you need to own this.
	And as a general point, I was going to leave it to a bit later in the segment, but just say it now.
	Isn't somebody exactly like him supposed to be the exact person that reform was meant to be replacing?
	What?
	Failed conservative politicians who ruined the country.
	Yeah, I would have thought so.
	Wasn't that the whole reasons for being for reform was to give an alternative to him?
	Right?
	I mean, yes, I don't understand what reform is doing either.
	I mean, Nigel and Richard Tice's line has always been: we will never have any sort of deal or compact with the Tory parties.
	That's off the table.
	We will not do it.
	But individual ones, even some of the worst actors among them, we will take them in.
	Welcome with open arms, though.
	How does that make sense?
	I don't know.
	I just couldn't understand why they took Nadine Doris as well.
	Like, she's a hardcore Boris Parson.
	She's been incredibly close to him and incredibly instrumental in all the things that Boris did.
	It's like, why would you want her?
	Why would you want him?
	Like, who's next?
	Rishi Sodak?
	Let's just go Adolf Saber.
	Let's say Matt Hancock.
	If Matt Hancock wanted to join reform, would Nigel take him in?
	don't know i mean like what what if michael gove was the joint one of you know who it Is there a Tory that you won't take?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So the accusation that reform is a project of being the teal Tories, Tories 2.0, a lot of reform people say, no, come on, that's nonsense.
	Let's be reasonable.
	That's not really it.
	It's much more than that.
	It's much deeper than that.
	It's like, is it, though?
	Now, is it though?
	Let's go through it.
	Nigel Farage, ex-Tory, Lee Anderson, ex-Tory.
	Richard Tice, ex-Tory.
	Obviously, Danny Kruger, Jonathan Gullis, Nadim here.
	But then you've got other ones.
	Lilia Cunningham, ex-Tory candidate.
	What was the Sarah Pochin, ex-Tory?
	The Andrea Jenkins, Dame Andrea Jenkins, ex-Tory.
	And then you've got a bunch of councillors that you don't know the names of, but they were ex-Tory councillors.
	It's like, sorry, it'd be easier to count the people who weren't Tory.
	Even Rupert Lowe was a member of the Conservative Party until 1993.
	He left it.
	I mean, don't get me wrong, getting out early, you know, getting out in 1993 with the Maastricht Treaty.
	But even with blowers, the only people, as far as I'm aware, who weren't are James McMurdo and the mayor, who's the boxer, whose name I can't remember offhand.
	As far as I can tell, they are the only two who were never actually.
	I think they've got a couple of Labour defections as well and the councillors.
	But it's literally a handful of them who were not Tories.
	And these people either weren't in politics or at a low level in the Labour Party, right?
	So they were counseling the Labour.
	Okay, what's that mean?
	They're not former Tory government who ruined the country and ruined their own careers and are clearly using Nigel as a life raft to get back into the limelight, back into the spotlight.
	Because that's clearly what's happening here.
	Yeah.
	With Zahari.
	Certainly.
	Certainly.
	You just made it.
	Nadine Doris.
	Certainly.
	I mean, the first thing she did was like, oh, you know what you should do?
	You should get Boris in.
	What the fuck?
	Boris?
	Yeah.
	Get Boris into what?
	You know, Traitor's Gate.
	Like, Jesus, are you mental?
	Yeah.
	Like, Nigel, why are you surrounding yourself with these people, man?
	You should be making a public example of them, frankly.
	You know, like, we so-and-so appealed to us to see if they've joined the party, but we refused.
	We are not taking members of the former Conservative government that inflicted the Boris wave on us.
	No, Nadine Doris, no Nadim Hassari, Zahawi, or whatever his name is.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Your actions preclude you.
	Anyway, because it's just, it's just baffling.
	I just don't understand the decisions he's making.
	Well, I said on the morning show, Breakfast with Bo.
	I said, I watch it every morning, by the way, because there's nothing else on in the morning.
	And so, like, I mean, well, there is talk TV, but I'm not watching that, and my Graham, not watching that.
	So, when I'm getting ready in the shower and brushing my teeth and stuff, you know, I'm catching up on the day's headlines with Bo.
	I said on that that it's just you know, would the average reform member or the average person that is sort of is considering voting reform, it would have been exactly this sort of person you would think you would hope Farage would draw a line at.
	Because I think when the Nadine Doris thing came up, she said, Let's get Boris in.
	I think there was a decision made at Reform to say no.
	We are going to draw the line at Boris himself.
	Oh, thank God.
	You would have thought you would have hoped that that would extend to exactly someone like Zahawi.
	Anyone in Boris's cabinet?
	Yeah, anyone that was actually in cabinet during the years of treason, Tory treason.
	Anyone that was properly in there.
	And the thing is, I'm no, but and I can understand if, say, Swella Braveman is an example here where she was obviously in Rishi Sunak's cabinet.
	And since then, she's come out hard against Rishi Sodak.
	She's been like, No, he stopped me from doing anything.
	I went and begged him.
	Look, I know the laws we need to get rid of.
	I know how to get rid of these people.
	Let me do it.
	And apparently, Rishi Sodak said, No, right?
	She's come out and publicly castigated her prior government.
	Okay, maybe there's a case for Swella Braveman then, right?
	Because her actions show that she's been very much against it.
	Now, I'm not saying he has to, and it's fair if you don't want him to, right?
	But at least there's an argument there.
	What's Nadine Zahawi done?
	Nothing.
	Is there any contrition whatsoever for what he did when he was in government?
	No, there isn't.
	No, he was defending his position on vaccine passports, for example, the other day.
	Exactly.
	Like, it's a complete night and day.
	And yet, for some reason, he hasn't got Sweller, even though Swella Braverman's husband is a member of Reform, like Rayle Braverman.
	He's a public reform supporter for some reason.
	He hasn't got her, but he has got this guy.
	What's going on, man?
	Yeah.
	I mean, let's have a quick look at him.
	So it was sort of all the bad things.
	Yeah.
	So, like, he was pro-vaccine passports.
	Yeah.
	He was very, very pro-vaccine passports.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Full blown.
	He's sort of pro-sort of migration, sort of a globalist, essentially.
	Or even at the Oxford Union, you know, almost gloating really that specifically Somalis take loads and loads of money out of our economy and send it back home.
	That that's somehow a good thing.
	He literally said that their economy would collapse if it wasn't for remittances from the Somali diaspora.
	So, and this is why immigration is good for Britain.
	That was the argument that he was defending in that Oxford Union debate.
	It's like, sorry, okay, he is an immigrant, right?
	He came from Iraq when he was 11 years old, was it?
	Yeah.
	The boy from Baghdad.
	And he keeps using the term British dream as well, which I find very sinister because, okay, the American dream makes sense.
	If you've got a giant undiscovered country and you want a kind of ideology that makes people all on the same page, fair enough, that makes sense because you've got this giant frontier that you need to get populated.
	But we are not a giant frontier.
	You are not coming to our country to fulfill your dreams of becoming rich and fake.
	No, no, no.
	You've got your own countries.
	This country is massively overpopulated.
	But the way he keeps saying it, he said it in the speech with Nigel.
	He's like, yeah, no, I fulfilled my British dream.
	There's no such thing.
	It sounds tin-eared when you say it, right?
	American dream makes sense.
	It's part of the mythos of America.
	It's not part of the mythos of Britain.
	We were ultra-exclusionary until about 1948.
	No one came to this country, and with good reason.
	We haven't got endless prairies for people to settle on, have we?
	Weirdly.
	And the other thing, in the past, he'd said that he was frightened by the idea of a country led by Nigel Farage.
	And Nigel Farage is racist and things.
	He just did say it.
	God, give me the Nigel Farage that they think we're getting.
	I mean, a bit of cope there when they were asked about it.
	You know.
	And yeah, the thing about there was tax issues in his past that he did pay up for.
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	Yeah, there's an article there.
	He thinks we forgot about his tax scandal.
	We haven't.
	I mean, there you go.
	He said, that's a tweet.
	If anyone's only listening to this, it's from Zahari himself.
	is a while ago but not that long ago i mean it's not like i mean he was only what 48 when he wrote it 47.
	He's just a young, confused kid.
	Yeah, he didn't know.
	He's just inexperienced.
	Do you know he began his career as an advisor to Jeffrey Archer?
	Yeah, I did see that the other day.
	That's disgraced Jeffrey Archer.
	For anyone who doesn't know, just look up his Wikipedia bio.
	Shorthand for being a disgrace, Jeffrey Archer.
	Yeah.
	So how he said, I'm not British-born, Mr. Farage, but I am as British as you are.
	Your comments are offensive and racist.
	I'd be frightened to live in a country run by you.
	If only.
	But now it's his only vehicle back into government, so he's just changed his change.
	This is amazing, though.
	I'm not British-born, correct.
	Yeah, you were born in Iraq.
	I am as British as you are.
	Okay, but what does British then mean in this sentence?
	Exactly, it means nothing.
	It's literally got no descriptive power.
	If an Iraqi and Nigel Farage, a pretty average Englishman, by most accounts, are just as British as one another, then being British has no exclusionary power.
	Like, it doesn't mean anything.
	It doesn't mean anything.
	Someone in Apo New Guinea would be like, yeah, I'm just as British as Nigel Farage as well, actually.
	Someone in Vladivostok is like, yeah, it's Conrad.
	I'm British today.
	I can't do an accent, but like, there's no reason.
	Why can't the penguins in Antarctica go, yeah, we're British too?
	Because what stops them from being British?
	Yeah, so it's a classic sort of.
	And I love the, oh, it's offensive and racist.
	All right, you leftist.
	Yeah.
	It's offensive and racist.
	Is it?
	Was it?
	I don't even care.
	Yeah.
	Well.
	So now there's another old tweet where he says, like, Nigel Farage, there's no chance of him joining as then UKIP or whatever.
	That he, Nad him, has been a conservative all his life and will die a conservative, but not now, though.
	Well, were you a conservative when you were 10 years old in Iraq?
	Just out of interest, you know.
	Were your parents conservative politicians in Iraq?
	I don't know.
	What's going on?
	What are we talking about?
	What age did you dream of joining the 1922 committee?
	Yeah, was it always?
	Was it from birth?
	Was it?
	Yeah, you're there in Baghdad thinking if only I could get on the 1922 committee, then I'd be happy man.
	I'll die a conservative.
	Until they're tanking in the polls.
	Maybe I won't.
	Yeah.
	Until they fail to give you a peerage.
	And at that point, you'll turn that you're back.
	Because I never thought the UKIP guy would be the leading politician in the country.
	Yeah.
	So here's a little bit when somebody actually asked him just yesterday, just directly, about that tweet.
	Catherine, turn it up a bit, please.
	Good on you for digging out a tweet from 11 years ago.
	But all I would say to you is if I thought this man sitting next to me was in any way had an issue with people of my colour or my background who have come to this country, who have integrated, assimilated, proud of this country, worked hard for this country, paid millions of pounds in taxes in this country, invested in the country, I wouldn't be sitting next to him.
	And I think he wouldn't be sitting next to me either.
	I mean, to be honest with you, at least this argument, I'm an integration success story.
	Yeah, I'm sure Jeffrey Archer taught you everything you needed to know, you know, about avoiding tax or whatever.
	Like, I don't go wrong, base.
	I hate taxes too.
	I mean, you know, I don't know what to tell you.
	But, you know, so I'm not going to say he's not an integration success story.
	Because, I mean, one of the things, his speech, honestly, was not terrible.
	Because he came out and was like, we need to deal with the radical Islam.
	And, you know, that is true.
	We absolutely need to deal with radical Islam.
	But the main question is, why can't we have British people doing that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Why do we need to, yeah.
	So he was like a token DEI hire or under like Cameron or whatever.
	They decided they wanted someone of that colour and that background.
	He did a great job for the Tory Party.
	Now I just thinking he can do a great job for us on that front as well.
	Why not?
	Yeah, and this is the same with Lalia Cunningham.
	It's not that the thing is, it's not even that he's necessarily a bad communicator.
	No, he's not.
	I don't agree with the things that he has done while he was in government.
	But the same with Lalia Cunningham.
	It's like, she's a good communicator and she's defending her position relatively well, actually.
	But the Dan Wooden position of, yeah, but why do we have to have Muslims being the people that represent us?
	It's the same as Zia Yousaf.
	Like, actually, Zia Youssef has done quite well on question time, representing the nativist position recently, right?
	Yeah.
	But why do we have to have people who are not natives being the only ones who are allowed to defend the position?
	The position is clearly defensible, which is why Lalia Cunningham, Zia Youssef, and I guess Nadim Zahawi will do this now.
	Why are the native British not allowed to defend it themselves?
	That's the question.
	And like, you got kicked out of reform.
	Dan Tubbs got kicked out of reform.
	Rupert Lowe, James McMurdo, you know, all of the sort of people.
	Because the thing is, in a lot of ways, to what Zia Yousaf was saying on question time, you guys don't say that much different.
	Like, in a lot of ways, you guys are basically on the same platform.
	It's just you're not a Muslim.
	So have you thought about converting both?
	You got the beard.
	I'm afraid not.
	But I mean, let's let him speak for himself a bit.
	You might have to turn it up a bit, Samson.
	I was born in Baghdad.
	My memoirs are called The Boy from Baghdad.
	We came to these shores in 1979.
	I was 11 years old.
	We came with nothing other than hope and determination, but also knowing that this nation was the most civilized nation on earth.
	But my friends, today, Britain is broken.
	And I'm convinced that Britain needs reform.
	Are you?
	I can't even bother to listen to it.
	You get the idea, this like faux sincerity of like Nigel is the only one that can save the nation.
	It's pretty straightforward.
	Everyone can see that we've got problems inflicted on us by the Conservative government.
	By you and your cabal.
	By literally you.
	So ironically, if it was anyone else, like it could literally be almost any other Conservative who wasn't in the Boris government.
	Yeah.
	Because that was only, what, 12 people, something like that?
	I can't remember how many exact actual cabinet ministers had.
	There must be thousands of Tories who are just hundreds of backbench MPs who could have defected.
	No, no, we've got to get one of the architects.
	Yeah, right.
	It is like getting Michael Gove or something like that or Matt Hancock or something or other.
	You think people are not connecting the dots.
	So the real question is really, what is the thinking?
	What is Nigel's thinking?
	Because that's what we touched on earlier, wasn't it?
	Like, what is his calculation?
	Well, he tweeted this, just saying, I warmly welcome Nadim Zahari to reform UK.
	A successful businessman who reached the top of the tree in politics and knows how to get stuff done.
	What's his business?
	So I've got to take Nigel on his word that that's genuinely what his thinking is on it.
	Oh, I believe it.
	I'm not.
	Yeah.
	Nadeem Zahawi has money.
	I don't think that's just massively cynical or a lie or anything from Nigel.
	I think that's what he really thinks and feels.
	But isn't it just behind the curve of how most people are thinking in the country?
	Isn't it just a little bit insulting to anyone that can remember only four years ago?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's like he's a successful businessman.
	I mean, so what?
	Who cares, really?
	Are there not successful businessmen who didn't try and lock the country down and inflict vaccine passports on us?
	Right.
	There must be a few.
	And he reached the top of the tree in politics.
	I mean, is that again, but is that a positive?
	Isn't that sort of a detriment to his character?
	That under the Conservative Party and that whole disgraceful administration the country has had, in my memory, yeah, he did reach the top of the tree.
	The fact that he achieved that, is that a good achievement?
	Is that something that reflects well on reform?
	Like the idea that it just lends the general purpose idea that it lends reform gravitas because he was once chancellor.
	I love the idea.
	Is that worth it?
	Nigel thinks there's some floating voter out there who's like, oh, you know, I might vote for reform, but they just don't have Nadeem Zahawi.
	And if they did, I'd be all on board, but they don't, so I can't.
	If only they had a Boris Era senior secretary of state in their ranks.
	If only.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I bet most of the public don't know who he is.
	Maybe, yeah.
	And that he gets stuff done.
	Yeah, what stuff?
	Yeah, not stuff that I want.
	What stuff did he get done, though?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess Nigel's thinking is just simply simply the case that there's a prestige, like a real sort of gold-plated prestige that comes with having been the Prime Minister, the Home Secretary, the Foreign Secretary, the Chancellor.
	And that if one of those people were in his ranks, it just means we're ready for government now.
	So does that think.
	Angela Raynor, former Deputy Prime Minister.
	Do you think Jess Phillips is she was the defect?
	Like, you know, she's one of the Home Office ministers.
	Like, Rachel Reeves.
	She's Chancellor of the Exchequer, mate.
	There's prestige in it, isn't there?
	She's defecting from Labour all of a sudden.
	Are you taking her in?
	It's a shaky logic the second you look when you look under that paper-thin veneer of an argument.
	As soon as you look under it, you look at who he is and what he actually did in office.
	Conservatives, sentence of polls.
	Labour, like 18% of the polls.
	Reform, 32% of the polls.
	I need one of those guys.
	No, no, the prestige is in being the top of the polls.
	The prestige is being the most popular party in the country.
	You don't gain prestige from failed conservatives.
	They gain prestige from you.
	Like, you are giving him a lease of life he otherwise wouldn't have.
	There's no way Radim Zahawi is getting back into government, if not through Nigel Farage.
	So why do you need that guy?
	Like, Nigel doesn't seem to have come to terms with the fact that he's winning.
	Like, he doesn't seem to have come to terms with it.
	It does seem to have been.
	I think, didn't you say this morning there was a poll that said a YouGov poll, ironically, that said reform was down a couple of points on the back of this.
	There are, no, no, yeah, there are.
	No, no, it wasn't on the back of this because this was only announced today or yesterday.
	This was a poll that was done a couple of days earlier.
	So the consequence of this will come out in the polls.
	The thing is, I wonder how it will.
	He's all over the place, you know, like somewhere on 26 to sort of 33, that's already.
	So if you roughly go to about 30%, that's a fairly consistent.
	There's been a bit of a downtip recently.
	And I don't think this is the thing that's going to start pushing it back up.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I wonder, because a lot of reform voters and supporters are kind of locked in.
	Nigel sort of can't do any wrong.
	A lot of them are pissed off about that.
	But I was just going to say, but I wonder, though, if this actually will turn a lot of people, a lot of people off.
	They're like, the argument I made earlier, no, he's exactly the enemy.
	Yeah.
	He should be politically speaking.
	He should be an absolute enemy of reform and everything they stand for should be, shouldn't it?
	And I wonder if many sort of reform would-be voters or members are sort of, you know, really turned off by it.
	I've heard through the grapevine, people are kind of furious.
	Why?
	I just don't understand what Nige thinks he's gaining from it.
	Experience in government.
	It's like, I don't know, man.
	I think you'd be fine.
	Well, let's see what Rupert Lowe had to say about it.
	It's a reasonably long tweet, but if I read it, he says, I am very strongly of the view that in the next general election, we need hundreds.
	Who's this?
	We need hundreds of candidates put forward to the British people that have largely had zero involvement in politics up to that point.
	I will work tirelessly to make sure that is provided in some form.
	After the shameful news from Reform Today, i.e. the defection, I'm more convinced than ever of its necessity.
	I am absolutely certain that we do not need a host of failed Conservative MPs manipulating the rightful anger of the British people to slink back into parliament.
	Farage has got it wrong again.
	And sadly, it has revealed what really drives him.
	I do not believe that it is in the best interests of the country.
	I'm sorry, I just don't.
	I understand people are frustrated that I remain an independent without a political party.
	Something to back.
	Yes, give us an option.
	Give us something to beat the drum for.
	Roops.
	Prince Rupert, give us an option.
	Please, we're dying over here.
	We're dying on our asses out here.
	Come on.
	That's the lifeline.
	But we are going to have one shot at getting this right.
	And we need to get it right.
	There is no other choice.
	Alongside that, if we wait until 2029 to deliver the change the country so desperately needs, there won't be a Britain left to restore.
	This is the immediate priority.
	That is why decent-minded MPs must come together now to fight for a different Britain today.
	That's what I'm trying to do through Restore and in Parliament.
	Some wins, some failures, but with progress regardless.
	And this is the key bit.
	If we do not do a good job now, if we do a good job now, as so often in life, a path will present itself.
	If it does not, one will be forged in the coming months.
	There will be a viable alternative at the next election.
	I promise you that.
	Right.
	It's tantalizing.
	It is.
	I would like to hear more about this viable alternative, please.
	Yes.
	What is the viable alternative and the hundreds of candidates you're talking about there, Rupert?
	What is that?
	What are we doing here?
	Let's go.
	I'm all.
	Let's go, baby.
	Speaking of the words of Rupert Lowe.
	Oh, yes.
	Good point.
	Rupert Lowe has an interview in Islander Five about Oliver Cromwell and the nature of power in Parliament.
	Cromwell happens to be one of his favourite historical figures.
	So for anyone who doesn't know.
	And he named his dog Cromwell.
	So, you know.
	Rupert is not a shrinking violet when it comes to political action.
	Will he be our Lord Protector for Reals?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Lord Protector for Real, though.
	Well, notice he's saying, look, I don't have a party, but trust me, something's happening in 2029.
	So, I mean, that's either he starts a party of his own or he starts an armed uprising.
	So I'm a good, committed Democrat.
	So, of course, I hope that he starts a party that we can vote for.
	But you can read the interview at shop.lites.com, get Island of 5.
	It's the biggest and best one we have done yet.
	It slaps.
	Look at that cover, man.
	That is such a great cover.
	And it's our fastest selling one yet.
	Anyway.
	All right, well, a few super chats.
	Yep.
	Nigel is so keen to shed his racist image, he'd welcome Abu Hamza into the park.
	Well, I mean, it's just jokes like that all over Twitter, aren't there?
	That Shamiga Begum's the new councillor.
	Yeah, Tony Blair, you know, like, who doesn't Nigel accept?
	To Strawman Steelman, I think Steelman, the argument, Nigel could be doing this to make it easier to get the Conservatives to join him if he has to form a coalition.
	Quite possibly.
	But honestly, I think this kind of weakness is why Farage isn't tearing ahead in the polls right now, right?
	He would be at 40%.
	I think so.
	50%.
	Because I mean, and the thing is, Boris was at 52% at one point in the polls.
The Strange Death of Crypto Twitter 00:15:58
	Keir Starmer was at like 48, 50%, something like that when he first took in.
	He was, you know, they came in on some really goodwill.
	And Nigel's trailing at between 26 to 33.
	It's like, but Nige, you aren't.
	You couldn't be better positioned for what's going on right now.
	And for some reason, you're not seizing the moment.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	All right.
	So I want to talk about the strange death of crypto Twitter.
	Now, I don't really follow crypto Twitter, but it popped up on my timeline recently.
	And actually something very interesting came out of it.
	Now, as Lena here is like, can someone please explain what crypto Twitter is usually chatting about nowadays?
	So crypto mean cryptocurrency, right?
	So investing and trading Bitcoins and, you know, various other coins.
	And when this popped up on my timeline, I was like, okay, what is this all about?
	So I tried looking into it.
	And basically, I came to the position that Lena is on, where it's just like, I have no idea what they're doing.
	I have no idea what this is.
	Because they don't seem to actually be talking substantively about anything.
	As she says, you know.
	They're not talking about things that will move the crypto markets.
	Not that I can tell.
	Like, if they are, it just was hidden from me.
	She says there are no real products in crypto, even after 15 years.
	It doesn't moon anymore.
	I don't know what that is.
	What's the point unless you're running a scam, blah, blah, blah.
	Now it's just low energy, good morning friends, copium den.
	Right.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	And so a lot of the crypto users, crypto Twitter types, come the CTs, were complaining that actually they feel that their algorithmic reach has been limited.
	And so they can.
	On Twitter.
	On Twitter.
	And so it became a bit of a meme in the crypto Twitter sphere that they think, well, hang on a second.
	Why is Elon and his company shadow banning us and algorithmically limiting us so we can't promote crypto?
	Like, what's going on?
	I mean, you think of all the people to do it, why would Elon be trying to crush crypto, right?
	And so they forced, as you can see here, Nikita Beer, who is the product manager for Twitter.
	This big angry mob of crypto Twitter types were like, well, hang on a second.
	Why are we getting de-boosted?
	And so the mob forced Nikita to explain how things work.
	So he's like, look, the algorithm is built from scratch by the XAI team.
	And just to be clear, he's not actually on the XAI team, right?
	So he actually doesn't directly deal with the algorithm, but he's obviously close to the team that does.
	And so you can pass things across to them.
	He's the product manager.
	And, you know, so it runs on 20,000 GPUs at the Colossus Data Center, blah, blah, blah, right.
	So it's a massive undertaking.
	That's Greek to me.
	I've got no idea what that means.
	20,000.
	I get it.
	It's big.
	Your computer at home has one.
	So, you know, you play all your games on that.
	It has one, right?
	Okay.
	So massive, right?
	And so he posted this in response to people.
	Now, he has since deleted this, but I suspect this is correct, right?
	And this is really fascinating because it changed the way I thought about algorithms and the way that people, I think, are thinking about algorithms is basically wrong, right?
	Now, this isn't going to be a universal metric or procedure.
	This is definitely just for Twitter.
	Because as the social media giants go, Twitter has always been the smallest of the social media giants, but it's also been the most influential, right?
	So Twitter is where elite opinion is formed.
	And this is why Jack Dorsey's Twitter was gatekept so hard.
	Like, you know, think of all the right-wingers who are kicked off, like myself, like Steve Bannon, all those sorts of, you know, Roger Stern, all the sort of, yeah, Trump himself.
	Yeah, literally.
	It was, they know that elite opinion is formed on Twitter because it has kind of addictive quality to it.
	You know, it's gamified.
	You want the likes, you want the retweets, you want the plaudits.
	You know, it's an addictive thing to get verified to get reinforcement.
	It's kind of fun.
	If you've got a thick enough skin, it is fun.
	It is.
	I think it is.
	I agree.
	It's got this kind of gamified aspect to it where people post opinions, post information, and it's like I said, gamified the exchange of information.
	And so it is fun, right?
	But you've got to be a certain kind of person to use it.
	And the general public generally are not those kinds of people.
	Actually, it kind of self-selects for those politically engaged types who are happy to be in the Thunderdome and take the slingsar.
	It is like an all-on-all Royal Rumble 24-7, all against all.
	Oh, it's no hole card.
	Skull crushing.
	It is a PvP platform.
	Because it is a game and it is PvP.
	It's just true, right?
	Whereas a lot of other platforms are not like that, right?
	Instagram is a lot more like relaxed.
	Facebook's a lot more relaxed, actually.
	YouTube is very siloed, you know, in many ways.
	Twitter is not quite like that.
	But it's also, like I said, the smallest.
	So Twitter, I think last I checked, it was about 500 million people who regularly used it, which sounds like a lot.
	No, no, sorry.
	There were 500 million accounts, but I don't know what the actual regular usage is.
	But that's the sort of maximum number of accounts.
	I'm sure it's been growing under Elon, but it's still not that big.
	It's going to be a few hundred million a month who use it, right?
	I think you are right to say.
	I think it is fair to say that it's sort of where elite opinions from.
	Because even like governments and things and massive, massive multinational governments, they'll put out a statement on Twitter and the mainstream legacy media report what they put on Twitter.
	I mean, it's right there, right?
	It really is.
	Yeah, it's fair to say that.
	It's the premier.
	Apparently, 611 million monthly users, which sounds like a lot, but Facebook's got 2 billion.
	YouTube, again.
	Monthly users, again, it's in the billions.
	So, and you know, logging onto Twitter and tweeting something once a month makes you a monthly user.
	So you know how engaged these people are is a real question right, and so um, getting back to Nick's point here, so Twitter has a different way of serving things and, under Elon, is trying to optimize for different things right, compared to like YouTube and whatnot.
	So he tweeted this.
	In October, a new myth started in crypto Twitter, that you need to reply hundreds of times per day to grow an account.
	Now, this is kind of true on Facebook, right?
	So I've not.
	It's not sorry, go on sorry, go on.
	Because Facebook is a massive platform with millions of people just constantly scrolling right, billions of people sorry, just constantly scrolling.
	So the every time someone flips up the algorithms right, I've got to get a new slate of posts that seem relevant to this person's interests to fill this, fill the feed.
	And YouTube does the same where it's like, we you, youtube.
	Youtube tries to maximize the chances of you clicking on a video right, but that's not what Twitter is trying to maximize, because it's a different platform, right?
	So Twitter lives or dies on the impressions and the quality of the impressions, whereas Youtube lives or dies on whether you click on the thing, and so it's a different incentive and a different mechanism for delivery.
	Right, so you don't need to reply hundreds of times a day to grow an account on Twitter.
	You don't?
	No, absolutely don't, no.
	So on Facebook, you've got billions of people who are constantly scrolling.
	Yeah, posting loads and loads of stuff means you're put in front of more and more and more people.
	Right, with Youtube, you put up three, four videos.
	You get more impressions in aggregate than you do if you just post one video.
	Makes sense yeah, so the the, the Crypto Twitter guys, have taken the algorithms for other platforms and imported them to twitter.
	The, the governing philosophy.
	But Twitter doesn't work that way, and so the Crypto Twitter guys started just posting Gm good morning uh, under each other's posts, constantly spamming Gm with Pepe images and stuff.
	Like each other mate each other.
	Yeah, and so in this sort of closed loop right, and so you know oh, i'm part of Crypto Twitter, so i'm in this network, and so everyone in the network is just constantly Gm jam which okay great, trying to game the system a bit or the way they thought the system worked.
	At least if, if we all get loads of interaction, then the algorithm boosts us right, if?
	And look at if we're all interacting.
	And it was kind of the same in India, where they were like verified accounts, replying with nonsense to each other to get money out of the system which Elon put a dampener on, uh.
	But so you've got these people who have mistakenly thought that twitter acts in the same way as every other social media platform.
	So it's just number of posts means increased reach, and Nick's like well uh no actually, each time you post, it uses some of your reach for the day.
	Right, we can't show all your posts to all your followers, because the average user only views 20 to 30 posts a day.
	So there we are.
	There now you see the sort of okay, if you had billions of people who are just constantly scrolling, like on Facebook or instagram, because the content isn't high pressure.
	On twitter, there is a lot of rage bait and there's always been a lot of rage bait.
	There's a lot of arguments, there's a lot of uh, it's.
	It's where the news is broken.
	And so Twitter is an intense environment, actually, on social media to spend your time in.
	On Facebook, you've got a lot of AI slop, cat videos, stuff like that.
	Not intense, right?
	So if you're just bored, you sit in front of the TV, you just scroll for the sake of it, you probably go through hundreds of posts on Facebook.
	But on Twitter, it's a bit more intense.
	So only about 20, 30 views a day.
	And so actually, the number of things that are being posted can't be served to all of the people that many times.
	So if you were like, oh, why didn't this one get 100,000 impressions?
	Well, there is a limit to the number of impressions that can be given because of the number of people using the platform.
	And so actually, Twitter has to essentially figure out how many impressions per day a person, a user, can get in order to kind of slice up who gets to see what.
	Because the algorithm has to figure this out.
	Otherwise, there are going to be users who are just getting no impressions because they were just unlucky that day or just left out of this sort of, you know, all of the impressions that the platform has in that day have all been used.
	Sorry.
	So you can just tweet into the void forever.
	Or you can have a sort of allocated number.
	And that's what he's saying here.
	So crypto Twitter ends up wasting all their reach on replying GM much at the times.
	When they finally post real content like a project announcement, it only gets shown to three people.
	Crypto Twitter is dying from suicide, not from the algorithm.
	I mean, if that's true, I've got absolutely no reason to doubt the key to beer.
	Yeah, sounds like it's from suicide then.
	You've tried to game the system on an incorrect assumption.
	Yes.
	And it's ruined yourself.
	It's ruined you.
	Yeah.
	And so people were kind of unhappy with this.
	They're like, oh, right, okay.
	I'm not allowed to spam GM hundreds of times.
	It's not even that you're not allowed.
	You can do it.
	It's just each one will be seen very, very few times because there are only so many people who can see the posts that you're making.
	And so, you know, people like, you know, just making, you know, this is an article with just nothing with GM with memes and stuff.
	You know, okay, yeah, that's fine.
	Don't get me wrong.
	This is really quite funny.
	It is very funny.
	Twitter is funny.
	Yeah, yeah, it is.
	It is.
	Largely.
	The Pepe stuff is always funny.
	I always love Pepe.
	I'll just real quick say, my experience of Twitter, to get any sort of traction on it or get a tweet that does well.
	My entire experience is that if you say something real and authentic that speaks to people and people agree with, you get clicks and likes and therefore Twitter shows more people.
	It's kind of as simple as that.
	You're not trying to game anyone or anything other than being interesting or funny or relevant.
	Just do that.
	Just try and do that.
	But crypto is about typing GM and complaining.
	Like, why am I getting views?
	What's going on here, right?
	And as Nick points out here, DM I get every day.
	You need to increase rate limits.
	I keep getting locked out of the app.
	I check their account.
	User is running a script that replies, good morning, and yes, totally agree to thousands of posts.
	As in, Twitter is optimizing for value and is not optimizing for quantity.
	Because actually, quantity is kind of bad for Twitter because they are the smallest of the big social media platforms.
	So actually what you want, and Nick does say this, in fact, directly.
	Oh, sorry, before we get onto that, this is the crypto Twitter response.
	How to GM on X without getting banned?
	lessons from his post and i mean so they're still committed to the gm yes strategy yes Yes.
	Okay.
	They're still like, make them feel human.
	Handling GM in your own post.
	Don't reply to every single one.
	Just reply to some of them.
	No, no, you're still trying to game the system.
	You're missing the point.
	And what has this got to do with crypto?
	Have we lost.
	I have no idea.
	I spent all morning researching this and I have learned nothing about cryptocurrency, but I know exactly how the algorithm on Twitter works.
	So that was useful.
	That was actually a really useful thing.
	But the point is, what they're doing essentially gets considered a spam.
	But it is, isn't it?
	It is.
	It is.
	If you set up a bot that sits there and goes, right, I want you to GM a thousand posts or something this morning, the bot's like, well, that's obviously spam.
	What are you doing?
	And so this is Nikita's problem with it.
	It's like, look, right, if it's actual discussion people are reading, that's good.
	If it's just replying GM or cash tagging according with no relevance to the parent post, it will be ranked no better than spam because that is basically what this is.
	And how do you expect an algorithm to not read it like that?
	Like, okay, it's just posting nonsense that's not getting any real engagement that nobody actually wants to see, that it makes no one's experience on the platform more interesting.
	So why would we promote this?
	I mean, even I, with a relatively small, pretty small Twitter account, like 30 or 1000, like you'll get replies that it's just someone doesn't follow me and I don't follow them.
	And it just says, you want to know more about crypto?
	Click my link.
	Click the link.
	Yeah.
	And you just ignore it.
	Or even I just quite often block that person.
	I'm interested as a bot or it's someone that's just trying to just block them or not interested, mute them, whatever.
	That the algorithm, algorithm treats them that way.
	Fine, I've got no problem with that.
	Do that.
	Yeah, I don't care.
	And this is why those guys are coming up in the spam.
	It's like hidden replies may be spam.
	You click at it.
	It's a crypto thing.
	It's like, well, the algorithm thinks you're spam because all you do is spam this because you think the number of posts equals a number of impressions.
	And actually, that's not the way this works.
	Right.
	As he says here, each time you post three-word slop, you dig yourself deeper into algorithmic hell.
	Yeah.
	Like, stop posting pointless waste of time things on Twitter if you want reach.
	Like, and again, it's just about the constrained nature of Twitter.
	It's very quick to tweet.
	It's very easy to tweet.
	But there is a much smaller audience for those tweets overall compared to a Facebook post, which takes longer to make, a YouTube video, which takes way more to make than a Twitter post.
	And yet, you know, like there's a much bigger audience for a smaller number of videos every day.
	Like, God knows how many, like, hundreds of millions of tweets are sent every day to 600 million people.
Contribute Value, Not Noise 00:07:22
	If it's, you know, maybe it's like 500 million tweets a day, 600 million people, yeah, now you see why your reach is so limited, right?
	It's like you can't serve that many tweets to that few people.
	It's just the nature of the beast.
	So what you've got to do is make sure each tweet counts.
	It's a very competitive marketplace.
	And you were spamming it, being like, yeah, I'm just going to beat Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim.
	Oh, I'm getting no reach.
	Yeah, because you're pissing into a very, very big ocean of tweets and wondering while nobody's noticing, right?
	Do something actually useful.
	Say something interesting.
	Exactly.
	Or funny or entertaining or amusing in some way.
	Yeah, just GM's nothing.
	It's of no value.
	It's of no use.
	Exactly.
	And he says, look, if you're an algorithm, how would you judge the quality of these posts?
	Would you show the users post next to anyone, or would you give their slots to someone who wrote an essay or recorded a video?
	You know, it's just like there's no real value to any of these posts, right?
	And that is basically what the philosophy of Twitter is under Nikita Beer, right?
	And I assume that he's there because Elon endorsed him and because he wants unregretted user seconds on the platform, right?
	And so he says this.
	And this is essentially what you need to think about.
	If you want to get rich on X, it isn't going to be through creator revenue or meme coins.
	Instead, think about one subject matter that you know more about than anyone else in the world.
	It can be anything.
	Plumbing, menswear, Indian food, furniture, social apps, whatever.
	This is how, was it, Derek Guy has got like 3 million followers or something on Twitter.
	I don't know who that is.
	A menswear guy who keeps criticizing right-wing as dress.
	Oh, does he?
	Yeah, that's all he does, right?
	And it's kind of funny, actually.
	I don't even mind it.
	But we're not dapper enough.
	Well, we are, but we are, obviously.
	Milo Yiannopoulos and Andrew Tate are.
	Okay, right.
	Anyway.
	Post one unexpected insight that you picked from your experience in that area.
	Keep it under five sentences.
	Do this every day for six months.
	If you stick to it, we will promote your account to others because you will be posting tweets that are novel, innovative, and have value.
	You've told someone something that they didn't already know, right?
	They've learned something from you.
	It was worthwhile you tweeting that thing is what he's saying, right?
	By the end, you will be recognized as the world's leading expert in that subject area and you can charge whatever you want for endorsements, your time, or whatever, and no one will be able to take that away from you.
	He's saying, build a career, build a character, become the thing by actually doing the work.
	And instead, GM, JM, GM, I'm going to get, you know, 5 billion impressions and get all the advertisement.
	That's not how Twitter works.
	That's not how you make money on Twitter.
	And so the philosophy of Twitter is basically contribute value.
	That's it.
	Contribute value and you will get reach.
	That's good, though.
	That's great.
	That's great to me.
	Yes, because there's no substitute for doing real work.
	Like doing the doing the reading.
	That's what we'd often say if you do a humanities degree anyway.
	You can't there's no office.
	There's no substitute to actually doing the reading.
	Even with just Twitter, trying to build a Twitter account above 200 followers.
	Just actually say something that's interesting.
	Yeah, it doesn't have to be more than one tweet a day even, really, does it?
	I mean, my average on Twitter is about 20 tweets a day, which sounds like a lot, but it's actually really low.
	Yeah, I don't do anything near that.
	You probably do.
	Some days, some days.
	You'd be surprised how easy it is to tweet.
	That's the thing.
	You'd be surprised how many tweets you put out.
	There are people who tweet hundreds of times a day.
	But even though that's not that much, there are people who tweet thousands of times a day.
	I tried to get it down below 20 just because that makes each tweet more impactful.
	If you actually look at my Twitter feed, I don't tweet that much, but when I tweet, because I try to make it a more impactful tweet, that goes further, I'll get a lot of views and likes and retweets on it.
	That's how Twitter is done.
	It's actually about the less is very much more on Twitter.
	Anyway, after a few hours of wrangling with the crypto bros, I can feel his pain, man.
	And the thing is, I like the crypto bros.
	They're obviously very right-wing coded.
	And I like the memes.
	They're funny, right?
	But they're approaching the problem in the wrong way.
	They're not going to get the results they're looking for.
	And I think structurally they can't, right?
	It seems sensible.
	And the only way to actually do Twitter is to focus it around value that is actually created from the posts.
	Yeah, I've got nothing against crypto bros.
	I'm interested in crypto.
	Tell me something real.
	I don't learn it.
	Tell me something real about crypto markets.
	What moves crypto markets?
	Talk to me.
	Talk to me, Geese.
	Come on.
	Just don't give me GM.
	Yeah, I can't work with that.
	You're giving me nothing here.
	Put GM at the beginning of an interesting post.
	Right.
	Yeah, do that.
	GM, this is what you need to do to invest in Bitcoin.
	I don't know about anything investing in Bitcoin.
	You could be helping me out here.
	Anyway, people are dragging him.
	And he's just like, he's taking it in good humor, to be honest.
	You've got to, you've got that one to do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And he tweeted out this morning, GM, it's fixed.
	I don't know what that means.
	I've no idea.
	Like, I don't know what you know what can be fixed because of the issue with the position of Twitter on the market, basically, in the social media game.
	So, I don't know what can be fixed.
	No explanation, whatever.
	I mean, maybe it explains a bit further down, actually.
	Yeah, no.
	Seeing more of his followers?
	I don't know.
	I think he's probably trolling.
	But the point is, these guys have just approached Twitter in completely the wrong way.
	Actually, the design philosophy is quite a good one.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Maximize value.
	Make your post worthwhile.
	And this is why, like, every now and again, you'll tweet something kind of offhand, but it'll click in a bunch of people's minds.
	I had one the other day that was just 153,000 likes.
	And I was just like, I did that just on the toilet, not thinking about it.
	You know, it's like, and then suddenly, like, you know, 10 million people are seen or something.
	It's like, oh, Jesus.
	Well, heard for that.
	I had a relatively, for me, a relatively successful tweet the other day, just something about Saturn.
	Yeah.
	And it's like, it was just a.
	I never thought for a minute.
	In fact, I suspected it wouldn't do very well at all.
	But for whatever reason, it was kind of interesting, I suppose.
	And for whatever reason, it did well, again, for me.
	And yeah, it was just a throwaway thing.
	I wasn't trying to calculate how can I get the most possible engagement.
	How can I game Twitter and win Twitter?
	It wasn't that.
	It was just like, here's something I think is interesting.
	Throw it out to the world.
	Maybe some people will.
	And that's what Twitter is optimized for.
	Interesting things that people are actually going to talk about or enjoy.
	So that's how to win Twitter, Crypto Burrs.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	Hewitt says, Nigel is so keen to shed his racist image.
	He'd welcome Abu Hamza to the party.
	I think I read that, but yeah, I think that's true.
Lord Titles Debate 00:07:31
	The boys at Load Cedars deserve peerages more than Zahawi.
	Lord Benjamin of Sweden, Lord Dave of Clifton Pub and Grill, Lord Dan of the Spearman Rider, and also Charles should promote Dankula to a duke.
	To a count.
	Do we have we don't have counts to it?
	Which is a shame, really.
	It could be an earl or a duke.
	How do you be a baron?
	Any lord is a baron, or any lord peerage is a baronage.
	Oh, is it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Fair enough.
	I don't know how it works.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	So do you know who the last white girl to get unalive by law enforcement in Minneapolis was before Rene Good?
	No, you don't.
	And I bet you don't know that the person who did it was the first Somali police officer in the entire United States and that they were convicted of murder.
	And it was later overturned by the Minnesota Supreme Court.
	And they only served a couple years.
	Bet you didn't know that, did you?
	I did not know that.
	I did not know that.
	That was news.
	That's news to me.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	Let's get to the next one.
	Here we are.
	And if you, in fact, if you look, come to think of it, well, I gotta look at this myself.
	I mean, love it.
	Wow.
	What a view.
	You're all right.
	I don't care what Trump does.
	I just love the way he deals with these things.
	Like the press conference.
	In this press conference, Marco Rubio hands him a note that's meant to be like, you know, you need to ask that guy, you know, meeting or whatever.
	You need to ask this guy about oil or whatever.
	And he just reads it out, and it's like that was meant to be a hint from Rubio.
	And Trump just laughs off.
	He's like, yeah, whatever.
	I don't care.
	See, Rubio also a bit laughed at that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, because Rubio's obviously, I'm genuinely impressed with Rubio.
	He's doing a great job.
	Not bad.
	He has grown in my estimation.
	Very much.
	He's the dark horse of the administration.
	Like, I didn't think, you know, Rubio had come out as hardline.
	And he's deliberately inceded in a bunch of things that actually he didn't have to, but are good to do.
	You know, like preventing various leftists from going to America.
	So you have to get bent.
	You know, no, we don't like you and we're making this note.
	It's like, you don't have to do that, but good for you for doing it.
	If you'd asked me 18 months ago, two years ago, would I be happy with the President Rubio?
	I would have said no.
	Why would I?
	But right now, I'd be like, I'll take it.
	It's not too bad.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I like Vance just fine.
	Don't get me wrong.
	But Rubio has been.
	And what I like about it as well, he just comes out and just straightforwardly says, no, this is why I'm doing it.
	This is the reason.
	It's like, okay, that's not a bad reason.
	I feel like Trump has very much enabled him to become himself a bit more.
	I don't know if that's really just, you know, Trump gives him carte blanche to say it as it is.
	Yeah, get it done.
	And he's living up to that, it seems to me.
	So everyone wants a lieutenant like Rubio, I tell you.
	That's exactly the kind of lieutenant you are.
	So yeah, just go and deal with those.
	Like, yes, sir.
	You know, let's go to the next one.
	I came across this headline and a thought occurred to me.
	Europe has been trying to establish itself as a rival block to the USA since at least the 1990s.
	They show a good amount of disrespect to the USA and most don't pay their NATO contributions.
	How does the USA ensure appropriate defense for strategically important territory that belongs to an ally?
	Asking Denmark to invest more in defense be firmly rebuked, citing sovereignty over the territory, but provoking them.
	We're going to put boots on the ground in Greenland.
	No, never be.
	I might be wrong, but allies sending troops to defend their own territory seems like it's in the USA's interest, and maybe that's the plan all along.
	You know what?
	I can't rule it out.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	No, it's a fair take there from Scotty.
	I can't help but think that Trump genuinely wants Greenland, though.
	Yeah.
	Again, I'm prepared to absolutely take him at his word.
	Yeah.
	That he really, really does think, believe that if he doesn't take it, if the United States doesn't formally take it and exit, own it, that China or Russia will.
	I mean, it might, on the face of it, that seems far-fetched and unlikely, but perhaps not.
	And the point is that he really thinks that.
	And I think he does.
	And the thing is, he's got this kind of habit of kind of looking into success as well, like looking into things kind of going his way.
	And so, like, as Scotty's pointing out, it's like, okay, he might have wanted Greenland.
	Let's say he doesn't get it.
	But now the EU is like, oh, we've got to station troops all over here.
	So he's kind of got the thing that he wanted anyway, just by being a bit belligerent about it.
	So it is kind of funny.
	4D chess.
	Not 4D chess.
	I know.
	Like with this Venezuela thing, I can't help but feel that Trump's going to win.
	Like, everyone's like, oh, I could go completely south like Iraq.
	It's like, yeah, maybe.
	But there's something about it that just feels like Trump's going to get what he wants and it'll probably work out for the best.
	My feeling on that, just real quick to say, is that Venezuelan society, civil society, is nothing like Iraqi.
	It's not like a sectarian nightmare waiting to happen.
	That's not what Venezuela is.
	So this is what I mean.
	It's like, and the thing is, the way he did it as well is, okay, oh, you just kidnapped the president.
	Yeah, but you're all fine.
	You're all fine.
	It's kind of just a dunk on Maduro.
	It's like, yeah, yeah, we just kidnapped the president.
	Like 80 of his Cuban guards died or something.
	You don't care about those.
	That's not your friends and family.
	You know, they were his like Praetorian communist guard.
	And so like no significant damage is done.
	Nobody's like, there's no like trail of blood and mountains of bodies.
	It's just like, you know, we just kidnap the dictator.
	And get on with your lives.
	You know, it's kind of funny.
	It is a Chad move.
	In the context of history, it's a pretty chad move.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's also like it's left them just kind of headless chickens.
	It's like, oh, God, what do we do now?
	Yeah, exactly.
	What do you do now?
	Who knows?
	We'll run it.
	Don't worry about it.
	Exactly.
	What option on the table is Donald Trubbery?
	Oh, no, no, we need to get this sorted.
	Because already they're like, oh, yeah, we're willing to work with the Trump administration.
	Of course you are because they just kidnapped your dictator.
	Like, what are your options here?
	You haven't got many options, right?
	Yeah.
	And so I can't help but feel that Trump is just going to kind of look into success with Venezuela.
	Now, don't get me wrong, throw this in my face if it turns into a massive bloodbath.
	I'm happy to concede that I could completely be wrong on this.
	But I've just got this feeling in my gut.
	Anyway, Russian says, Would you rather come across a bear or an ice agent in front of your car?
	Well, I mean, I'm not going to drive into the ice agent.
	Right, yeah.
	What's going on, bro?
	An ice agent who I'd be perfectly polite to.
	There's a Somali over there.
	Yeah.
	Are you missing one?
	Look, he's getting away.
	What are you wasting time with me for?
	Bears seem terrifying to me.
	Yeah, they are, yeah.
	Like a big bear anyway.
	Like even just curling up and trying to play dead or trying to fight back with a big cat or anything.
	No, no, if it decides it wants to rip you limb from limb, it's going to do that.
	I've heard that.
	That's a terrifying monster.
	I've read such horrible stories about bear attacks as well.
	It just holds you down and starts eating you alive and stuff.
	And they're so much stronger than you.
	Oh, God.
	It's horrific.
	Anyway, Maria says, the plight that liberal women face is one of their own making.
Fertile Women's Role 00:04:28
	And sadly, the simple truth is that one cannot save a person who insists on running into a burning building, nor should one try to.
	And that's honestly the truth of it, isn't it?
	I mean, like, look, you know, they desperately want to be doing something.
	And it's like, sorry.
	You know, there actually isn't a place for you dealing with the Somali immigrants.
	Yeah.
	Like, go pick up your kids from school.
	That's what you should be doing.
	Yeah.
	Make sure that your neighbor hasn't run out of petrol or gas or firewood or whatever it is.
	It's winter in Minnesota.
	It's cold.
	Make sure they bring them some blankets.
	You know, like, you know, turn the heating on for them.
	Whatever it is.
	You know, you've got other real people to help around you, not hypothetical Somali criminals.
	Marinville Marhawk says, they're focusing so much on the crazy car lady in order to cover up the fraud.
	Well, yeah.
	The more time that's spent discuss the justified shooting of someone, trying to run over an ice agent, means that the Somalis and the Democrats have more time to destroy evidence while the public is distracted.
	A fair point.
	You know, don't know if that's definitely the case, but I wouldn't be surprised.
	It may well be.
	Yeah, it makes sense, isn't it?
	I mean, they're probably just glad for the cover, frankly, even if it wasn't on purpose.
	But it's just one of those things where it's like, I'm not even, I don't want to get into the left or right who did what of it, because it's just like, look, both sides have their own different realities at this point.
	Yeah.
	Derek says, if anything is like the handmaid's tale, it's the women who served as surrogates for degenerate couples.
	Well, I mean, like, none of it's the handmaid's tale because the handmaid's tale was.
	So for I watched the series, I never watched it.
	Basically, most women in the world are no longer fertile.
	And so the circle of fertile women has shrunk to a very small number of women.
	And so it's a really weird dystopia, though, because if all women or almost all women became infertile, why would the rich, powerful men marry the infertile women?
	They would marry.
	Suddenly, being fertile would put you at the very top hierarchy rank of the hierarchy of society, right?
	You'd be the most important women in the world.
	Instead, they're treated as sex slaves for these rich couples who can't have babies.
	So the guy has sex with her against their will and she then bears his child, right?
	But it's like, but why?
	Why is that woman who's infertile a high-status woman?
	She wouldn't be.
	She'd be like, okay, you're just a fertile woman, like millions of others.
	But the few women who are fertile, they'd be the ones who marry the rich billionaires, right?
	it does it does make sense as a premise but you're thinking about it in like real terms not the how would society actually be Who's the woman who wrote it?
	I can't remember her name.
	Margaret Atward.
	Yeah.
	So that doesn't serve her narrative to write a story like that, does it?
	Her narrative is that.
	And being held down and forcibly impregnated.
	It's like, okay.
	But that's not what would happen if that, you know.
	She's really insufferable.
	Have you ever seen her in an interview?
	She's unbelievably woke.
	Yeah.
	Insufferable, truly.
	Yeah.
	And she thinks of herself like a fucking.
	Sorry.
	She thinks of herself like a prophet as well.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Like she's got all the answers.
	She's figured out the world.
	Yeah, and this is definitely going to happen.
	It's definitely going to happen that you're going to be held down, impregnated against your work.
	That's not happening, bro.
	You're a mad old witch.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You lost your mind somewhere along the line.
	And this is starting to feel like a fancy for you.
	Whoa, whoa.
	Anyway, Sam Benny says, I was outside the Supreme Court when Roe was overturned.
	Post-menopausal women show up wearing handmaid's robes within the first few hours.
	It's like, yeah, oh, no, it's a handmaid's tale because I can't have irresponsible sex and then murder my baby.
	It's like, okay.
	I mean, that's not what the handmaid's tale is, but I'll take it.
	Arizona Desert Rat says, they're thinking, I'm not getting what I want when I want.
	Therefore, I'm oppressed.
	No, it's not.
	Nicholas says, if you bring your children to a right, you need to be arrested for child engagement.
	Well, obviously, that's the thing.
	Seems fair.
	And says, reform will be crippled by Frazier's insistence that major party leaders are not perceived as smarter than Nigel is.
	Yeah, this is Nigel's problem, man, is the fear of competent people around him.
	It's like, you've got to stop being worried about.
	Like, remember when Rupert Lowe was like, he essentially publicly disagreed with Nigel, the first thing Nigel did, I think it was Talk TV or something like that, was like, he was trying to seize control of the party.
After a Certain Point 00:02:53
	He's like, no, he just contradicted you in public.
	He just contradicted you.
	He can't seize control of the party.
	Like, that can't happen.
	But he unbelievably afraid of that.
	Dudley Deucebag, next headline, Tony Blair joins reform.
	I mean, it's inevitable.
	Omar says, crypto bros not understanding supply or demand for the attention economy doesn't bow well for their endeavors in the economy.
	It's like, yeah.
	You think they would.
	Yeah.
	You think they would.
	But the thing is, like, again, it is at least very interesting that we got to find out how Twitter's algorithm works, what the governing philosophy of Twitter was.
	So if you want to succeed at Twitter, be interesting.
	Literally that.
	Be interesting.
	I've said this, right?
	From the very beginning.
	Don't waste people's time.
	If you want to be a content creator, don't waste my time.
	You know?
	Just that's the only thing.
	Don't waste my time.
	And White Rider says they cannot, they also cannot, they also think this cannot be true because Elon gets loads of reach replying wow to things as if there's not a difference with him there being the owner.
	Also, he's the most followed man on earth.
	He has something like 250 million Twitter followers, like 239 million or something like that.
	Like, he can afford to tweet Wow, and lots of people will see it because of the size of his account.
	If you've got 2,000 followers, don't waste your reach going GM, GM, Gem.
	Yeah.
	What are you doing?
	Yeah.
	There's a certain point in all sorts of things, not just Twitter.
	Most things in life.
	Most things, in fact, in the cosmos.
	After a certain point, you can't help but keep winning.
	Yes.
	Scale is.
	Yeah.
	And so that applies to Elon's personal Twitter account.
	Yes.
	Very much.
	Of course it does.
	Again, it's probably the largest social media account in existence.
	It's probably got the biggest voice of any human ever to have lived.
	Yes.
	No human has ever been as scrutinized in that way.
	And I'm not just trying to be sycophantic for the, I'm thinking that's a statement of fact.
	Yes.
	Right.
	Like, think of your average emperor, Roman emperor, or Chinese emperor.
	Okay, they might have like, you know, 500 million people in the empire or whatever, but how many people actually see the emperor on a daily basis?
	Right, yeah.
	A couple of thousand at most?
	You know, Elon Musk has 200 plus million looking at everything he says.
	Like, whenever he has a thought, he's like, wow, you know, 200 million people see it.
	It's like, Jesus Christ, man, that is a scale to which we were not previously prepared to deal.
	Yeah, there's no precedent for that, is there?
	No, history.
	It's back in history.
	No one thought that this would be the case.
	Anyway, we are out of time, but I was just going over because it was interesting stuff.
	Anyway, thanks for joining us, folks.
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Chapters

00:00:00 Scarcity Creates Value
00:03:19 Liberal White Women's Dilemma
00:10:18 White Liberal Women's Fears
00:25:34 No Forgiveness, No Redemption
00:41:01 Jeffrey Archer's Influence
00:56:44 The Strange Death of Crypto Twitter
01:12:27 Contribute Value, Not Noise
01:19:35 Lord Titles Debate
01:26:51 Fertile Women's Role
01:31:04 After a Certain Point