Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
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It's five years odd, isn't it now?
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It's Tuesday the 13th of January, 2026.
I'm joined by Carl Benjamin.
Hello.
Alright?
I'm alright.
And today we're going to talk about liberal white women are not okay.
Why are they not okay?
We'll get into that.
I'm going to talk about the strange death of crypto Twitter.
Yeah.
But this is good, because it tells us about how the Twitter algorithm works.
And it's actually, honestly, the crypto guys are taking it really badly, but it kind of makes sense.
I don't know much about it, so I'm going to be learning in real time with you.
And I'm going to do a segment all about the latest defection to reform.
Of that Boris Chancellor fella, Iraqi-born dude.
We can talk about that, yeah.
Why?
Why?
What's the thinking behind that?
How is that in their interests?
Alright, so should we just jump straight in? No, we should chill Islander first.
Oh, Islander magazine.
It's the best magazine.
Get it now.
Buy it. To be fair.
This is the fastest-selling issue of Islander that we've had, and it is also the best.
So there is a limited print run on it.
Get it while you can.
Because every day I get people going, can I get a copy of Islander 2 or 1?
No, you can't.
Once it's gone, it's gone.
We're never reprinting them.
There are a moment in history.
You have to be there for it.
And if you weren't there for it, well...
That has always been your line on it, hasn't it?
100%.
Well, scarcity creates value, doesn't it?
It's not just that, though.
It is...
I mean, if that were the case, why wouldn't we sell it for more, right?
15 quid is actually not that much.
But, like, it's more that they represent a moment in time that we were living through, right?
Part of the story...
the entire issue is about heroism. And the thing about heroism is predicated on narratives, right? You don't have a hero unless you have a narrative. And I want people to start thinking of themselves in heroic terms, as in, you are part of a narrative, your story of yourself, your story of your civilization, all of these things matter. And Islander, the policy of not reprinting Islander has always been a part of that. So look, this event in your story, you know, if you've been there from the beginning,
then you can chart like how You can feel how the story has been told throughout the process and the way the winds were blowing and how, like, for example, the third issue of Islander, if you go back and think about the kind of mindset and the mood of the people, we were in a bit of a depression there, you know, it's like, things were looking quite bleak. And so it's the wintry edition where like, you know, we're in the nadir. And you can feel us coming out. Actually, there's progress that has been made, right? We're actually Things are getting stronger,
the right is getting more powerful and the argument from our side is going everywhere now. I don't know whether you noticed but Elon just retweeted my interview on Andrew Gold literally like 10 minutes before we came on the podcast saying a very reasonable position where I'm basically explaining, look, the English have a right to say no,
we've had enough. And so it's like compared to where we were for Islander 3 where we felt that we were in the wilderness, the depths of winter, right? We've come a long way and so, yeah, the sort of heroic aspect The point is the whole thing tells a meta story and this is why we don't reprint it. It's not just being cynical. I mean,
if we were being cynical, we'd keep it on sale all the time so we could continue making sales because there are evergreen essays in it. They're not just like, you know, they're not about breaking news. It's about the psyche of the West. But anyway, that's why you should go and get it. It's an amazing thing and you won't be able to get it in the future. Anyway. And Elon, when are you coming on? Always welcome, Elon. Anyway, so let's move on. So,
liberal white women have always had a strange way of engaging with politics. Now, I want to be really clear that I am specifically delineating a subsection of this demographic, right? So, white women in America, in general, I think at the last election broke 56% for Trump. So, most white women in America are right-wing,
or vote right-wing. And voted for Trump. And then you've got about a third of, so it roughly breaks down into thirds in America. You've got a third Republican, third Democrat, and then third swing voters, independents. And so Trump got 56% of white women, and then out of the 44%, a section of that, probably something like 15, 20%, something like that,
are independent swing voters. And then you're into the sort of like hardcore Democrat-leaning women. And then out of those, you're going to have about 8-10% who are like hardcore activists, people who are completely, Completely bought in to all of the narratives, all of the ideology of leftism, and we see this quite a lot.
They, they come out and they're quite active a lot of the time where they'll dress in their handmaid's tales outfits again.
They, they just create such stunning right-wing propaganda.
Uh yes yes that's, that sounds brilliant.
I'm up for liberal women being put in the handmaid's tale.
Uh, clearly they are too.
Um, it all has a kind of psychosexual dynamic to it.
Um, what a weird thing.
I've never read the books or watched the tv films, although i'm still aware of the general narrative of the show and I know that.
But you've got to be pretty far gone to dress up and turn up in public like that right, I mean, what are you thinking?
I mean, you're thinking you're under the heel of patriarchy you.
yeah. Forcibly impregnated to keep the human race going, which obviously isn't happening. And it's not happening until next year, Project 2025, so I don't know what you're worried about, right? Obviously this is ludicrous, extreme left-wing liberal women who view any Uh, infringement on the power and ability of women to do anything they want as a form of oppression. As in, what, Abortion.
That's just health care, isn't it?
I should be able to kill as many babies on no no no, that that's a murder.
Like you've just killed a baby and you conceived of the baby willingly.
You knew what you were, you knew this was a potential outcome when you had sex unprotected and now you want to commit a murder because you're upset that this will change your life.
Sorry, i'm not down for that.
Actually, you know, especially not up until the point of birth and, of course, this is demented actually, and these women are like, right, this is just like the handmaid's tale.
It's like, uh no, the the problem is you, where's your husband?
Oh, you don't have a husband, right?
Okay, so they've lost all perspective by this stage.
Yeah, it seems to me exactly.
They've lost all reason.
They've lost all perspective.
and this is coming back to them. After the killing of Renée Goode, the white liberal women extremists are not taking it well. Now, I don't want to go over the actual events of Renée Goode, that's not what I'm talking about. It's the reaction to that, Um because uh, it's very split very, very split.
The Republicans are like well, she was in a car and she accelerated and clipped this ice agent and therefore he, in the moment, felt as if he was under attack.
I mean, he'd already been dragged previously by someone else and so he drew his gun and shot her in self-defense.
And, of course, the Democrats are like well, she was trying to turn away.
Maybe she didn't mean to clip him whatever, i'm sure she didn't.
Uh, this is an act of murder.
It's like well okay, but what's she doing?
Playing with fire anyway right, and why is she even there?
Shouldn't she be at home?
Well yeah, why?
Why is she even there?
Why isn't she just following instructions, right?
You're not actually at liberty to leave when you're being detained, right?
So, like what, why are you playing with firing, you know?
And so whether you're on either side of this, it doesn't really matter.
Um, what matters is how you, what you take away from it, and a lot of them are freaking out.
I mean, like we'll just give an example.
You see the point, right?
Yeah, she's kind of losing it.
Well, Ed Dutton makes a good point about women.
Like this as well.
In the 16th century people would call a witch, yeah or not.
Not even that these, these women, would be the hardcore Christian flagellants, right?
yeah, that's a good one. They would be the ones walking through the streets, whipping themselves, or they would join the Cathars and become the perfect ones and throw themselves into the fire. There's always going to be a contingent of women who are on the sort of radical, ideological end of whatever is happening. And so, I mean, with the Cathars in particular, the Cathar heresy, It was an extreme, for anyone who doesn't know, it's an extremely austere Christian heresy in the south of France in the 13th, 14th and 15th centuries,
that sort of time period, and it tended that women would convert to it, and the main premise of the heresy is that it stigmatized the material world. Everything about the material world was fallen and evil,
and the true God was beyond that, and so the The ultimate aim of the Cathar heresy is to essentially rescind yourself from materialism entirely, the material world entirely. So the women become celibate, and they eat fish and vegetables, and they spend their lives in prayer and in penitence and being in poverty and things like this. And when the crusaders decided, right, okay, we've had enough of this,
they would just willingly throw themselves on the pyre in order to sacrifice themselves I think that's the same kind of attitude that we're seeing here. For anyone who might be interested, on the website, LotusEaters.com, We did uh, a bit all about Simon De Montford at one point on my show Epochs, and Simon De Montford's father another Simon De Montford was involved in all of that.
Yes, then we spend a good half hour, don't we at least, talking about that, so it's a while and he's an absolute chad, so it's well worth your time.
But um, but the the thing about this and this you can see the pathology that these women have because this is why i'm comparing them to the sort of the Cathars or some sort of Christian heretics is because they have taken an idea to its most extreme now.
In previous eras yeah, it would have been an extreme form of Christianity, but now it's an extreme form of liberalism.
And so, listen to this.
So I mean, i'm just walking around kind of just dazed because we turn up a bit.
I was like I don't know if it's the right thing to do.
It feels kind of wrong being here in some way.
I don't know.
I don't know um, I don't know like where that stems from.
Um, like I don't.
I mean part of it is being like a white woman, that i'm privileged and I have a lot of privilege um, so I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary.
Um, when black and brown people have been experiencing this yeah, for a long time um, this isn't new for them you.
and so I don't know if that makes any sense in that way. How did you decide that you should be here? Are you still figuring that out? Well, I work like two miles from here, so driving by, just, you know, it's like I'm here. I'm two miles. I can stop. You can see she feels guilty. Crying over Renée Goode, because she's a white woman, Renée Goode was a white woman,
and black and brown people have been dealing with this for a long time, and so she feels guilty about feeling sad for the woman that was killed by ICE. It's like, okay, that's, it's, You are more than entitled to feel sad as a white woman because another white woman has been killed and you feel like oh, this is a handmaid's tale, ice are going to come for me.
I, you know.
Somehow it like that is mental, right.
I just feel like this person, whoever is, it's just terribly, terribly confused.
It's like it almost suffering from some sort of psychosis or something like so terribly.
I was gonna say fragile, I know that's a word, that's that gets stoned around all the time, or you're fragile, you're a snowflake.
I don't mean it like that, I mean genuinely, really.
Yeah, sort of emotionally very very, very fragile, doesn't know what to think, doesn't know how to feel yeah, all those things.
And you could barely get a sentence out, yeah.
And I just want to be clear.
This isn't about dunking on these women no, no.
I feel sorry for that individual to be perfectly honest. I feel sorry for someone like that. Exactly. They're lost. It's a lost soul, it seems to me. Yeah, they're deranged. Again, I'm not trying to be mean when I say that, but literally unable to think clearly about what has actually happened here and their place in it. And so now they're just crying in the street saying, I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to cry. It's like, dude,
you're fine imagine feeling so guilty that it brought you to tears and your own tears made you feel more guilty yeah what is that wow i mean who has done that to you yeah right that's not healthy yeah it's not healthy no it's not kind really not um and this this lady uh nails it right so about don't halfway in she she goes through um this as you can see this compilation of white liberal women who are just freaking out About all of this, right?
And then I think it's about here that she starts explaining it.
Healthy home and family, a woman will find a place to put all of that.
The natural instinct to sacrifice yourself for your children gets misapplied in all the wrong directions.
You want to know why so many liberal women are out there playing hero for criminal aliens and gender -confused perverts and cultures that hate them?
It's because they believe they have identified groups of people who need them.
When no one else does.
We destroyed the family and we handed a generation of women a bunch of feminist lies and progressive slop in its place, And this is the natural result.
That's the important thing.
Fair take, right? I can't argue with it really, can you? These women believe that these communities need them. But the thing is, these communities don't care at all. I mean, like one of the things about the really good stuff is I saw a load of black Twitter being like, you're not allowed to say,
say her name. That's for black women only. Really, you're patrolling that at this point, right? Like, these people have broken up over this, and they're like, we don't care about you. And it's like, right, there we go. They don't care about you. These people don't need you. And the women whose maternal instinct has run out of control are honestly going to kind of sacrifice themselves in order to help. I mean,
this is just another great example, right? It's quite a long one, so it's about 55 seconds in. It's just basically, she's gone far too far, right? So she, in the beginning of this,
you can see that, like, she's interfered with ICE, and they have to chase her through the streets, and you get this from the ICE perspective, and eventually she pulls over and is like, listen, love, what are you doing? Right? What are you doing? I'm going to interfere with ICE, arresting some illegal aliens and deporting them, because you think those people need you, right? But actually, there are other people who need you. With the federal investigation,
we have you on camera, and you actually have me before you with your vehicle. Your case will be referred over to a headless attorney investigation for prosecution. You will be arrested. This is your last and final warning. Hold on a second, guys. Give me your license, please. I'm going to once again tell you, you have cases in danger. Put your vehicle in park and shut it off, please. I understand, but you are impeding,
look where you are. You are almost causing an accident. You are surrounded by federal ladies. I am the deputy field office director here, Stand by.
We're running the name.
We're going to be for this case.
We're for enforcement action.
I'm just a mom, please.
Is that it?
Please, please, please.
I'm just a mom, please.
Riley?
Yes, please.
You are just...
You turn around and get out of here.
I'm getting out of here.
Here you go.
Slow down.
Yes, yes, yes.
What did you think you were doing?
Your husband is going to be furious.
Get off the internet.
Oh, I've got to save these criminal aliens from ice.
I'm going to be a hit.
No, you're not.
You're going to put yourself and your children in danger.
You're going to ruin your life.
You're going to ruin your family.
Your husband's going to get a phone call at work and be like, sorry, my wife's what?
She's under arrest.
Why?
She rammed an ice agent or whatever she had done, and then she tried to flee.
What?
What are you doing?
There are people who actually depend on you.
and it's not the criminal aliens who ICE need to deport. And then, you can see how afraid she is. Oh wait, I've actually, I've now somehow managed to interface with the hard power of the state. These guys have an authority to shoot people who they think are trying to kill them. Like this,
the guy who killed Renee, he's got a reasonable case that he felt threatened when she tried to, when she drive up, he's going to get off. Yeah, I saw a headline saying he will not be charged. No, absolutely not. He's going to be just fine because he has a reasonable defense. And I got hit by her car. I didn't know she wasn't going to run me over. You know,
you can sit there and armchair general it all you like. But in the moment, I was terrified. And this has happened to me before. So I had a reasonable, you know, and he's going to be fine. A woman lost her life, and this woman could have gone down the same route, and then she would have, oh God, what am I doing? It's like, yeah, you're being a zealot, right? You are being an insane zealot for an ideology that has really confused you about what your actual priorities in life are. Like,
this is mad. How the hell does it come that a suburban mum going like, I'm going to intercede, like, you know, has she been reading Islander? I don't know. Like, what is she doing? And the defence that when it comes to it, I'm just a mum, I'm just a mum I'm just a mum. Well then don't do any of these things. Yeah, well act like one then. Yeah. Follow the rules. You know, that's what they're there for. I mean, they're there to help you. Like,
Why does the Department of Homeland Security have to tweet out, quote, do not bring your baby to a riot?
Sorry, let's go back to the other women.
They think there's someone who depends on them.
No, there is someone who depends on them, your baby.
You don't endanger your child, your babies, by taking them to riots.
But this is the derangement that has infected this section of American life.
Like, I don't know whether they're single or not.
I mean, I'm sure that a lot of them aren't.
The, the excessively online liberal white woman who thinks I have to save the immigrants, the illegal immigrants from the law, justly catching up with them.
No, you don't.
You are mental.
What are you doing?
They've got a perverse concept of what justice is right.
Yeah yeah, absolutely.
They're acting on behalf in favor of justice and it's like.
No, you're doing the exact opposite.
No, you're doing the exact opposite.
You're impeding justice and you're endangering yourself.
You're impeding justice.
And you're endangering yourself.
Just see what Homeland's actually retweeted there, saying some Minneapolis reporters, protesters, sorry, are showing up with their babies as shields from law enforcement.
I mean...
What are you doing?
Is there anything lower?
That's pretty.
It's almost as low as you could go.
Right.
I mean, you've certainly lost all perspective if you decide to do that.
You have, you've certainly lost all perspective.
If you decide to do that I, I certainly i'm going.
Certainly.
I'm going...
And the thing is, if you like you, like the first one screeching, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me.
And the thing is, if you...
Like the first one, screeching, shoot me, shoot me, shoot me.
If you think these are lunatics, trigger happy lunatics who will quite happily shoot anyone for getting in their way, well then, if you take your child, then I mean, I don't think it's going to happen, but you think that they might shoot your child, that they might shoot your baby, and that's, that's got to be in your mind.
If you think these trigger happy lunatics yeah right, so you, you must be knowingly endangering your baby.
At that point.
Yeah, if you took it as authentically as a shield yeah, then that that's.
But like what, what are you doing?
And really I, I just don't think these people should be involved in politics.
Right, these people should be involved with the local bake sale.
They should be involved.
Yeah yeah, you know I laugh, but you're right.
Yeah old, old Deirdre has has actually, you know, hasn't got any firewood for the fire and so she's cold.
So can you go and arrange, you know, old Ted over there, to go cut some fire for her and then you can deliver it to her later.
Right, they should be doing small-scale community things where their their actions really matter and actually people are really relying on them and they don't have to interface with the government or rights or anything else.
No, No no, just just do good things in your local communities.
That's what these women should be doing, not trying to intercede with ice agents for immigrant rapists or whatever, or fraudsters or whatever.
They're doing like this is way above their station.
You should not be doing any of this.
That old lady we saw earlier who's saying shoot me, shoot me.
I mean she, someone like that anyway, is sort of basically, in my opinion, has basically completely lost their mind that it's not that they're, they're not doing any good whatsoever in the public discourse, on the, in the public square, whatever.
And I know it's an old cliche to accuse women of being hysterical, but that's hysterical behavior.
Yeah, like you're truly, in the true sense of that word she's, she's hysterical.
Yes um, it's best for her and the wider world if she just goes home.
Yeah, I mean.
that woman was older. She should have grandchildren. She should be concerned about what her grandchildren ate at school that day. She shouldn't be worried about whether Somalis are going to get deported for fraud, right? That's not your business. Of all things as well, if there was some sort of wider social issue where there was an element of injustice and it was a grey area and all that sort of thing.
No, but we're talking about Somalis in Minnesota.
Emitting massive amounts of fraud and being in large number illegals.
Like, this is not actually a black...
This is a black and white issue.
There are not shades of grey here.
These people did something wrong and they deserve the punishment.
You're choosing this as the hill to get yourself suicided by cop, are you?
Yes.
You're choosing this issue.
Yeah.
And so this is something that's...
It's clearly a part of a kind of ideological contagion within this community, right?
I mean, you've got people like Sarah Stalker.
I think she was Tennessee or someone like that.
She said, you know, every day I have guilt for being white and my kids should too.
And she says in this, we shouldn't...
essentially she says, we shouldn't ignore it when kids start questioning race and stuff. We should use it as an opportunity to essentially instill white guilt into them. And it's just like,
that's horrific. It's evil. What are you doing? It's evil. And then you've got Robin DiAngelo, of course. You can go to and watch my Conservatives Guide to White Fragility because I spent a lot of time studying Robin DiAngelo's work and then I went to the German Parliament at the request of the AFD and explained it to them at great length. And it really is,
essentially, the Christian idea of original sin. You may be surprised that the single image I use to capture the concept of white supremacy is Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel,
God creating man. You know, where God is in a cloud and there's all these angels and he's reaching out and he's touching. I don't know who that is. David or something? Adam. And God is white, and David's white, And the angels are white like that.
That is the perfect convergence of white supremacy patriarchy right um, and and you know, both you and I, let's imagine I don't know how you were raised.
I was raised Catholic, so I saw many images like that as a child.
So so, the point being she's, instead of being a hardcore Catholic who views things in the intensely religious frame that they would have done in like the 16th, 17th century or something like that no, she's a modern, 21st century woman, and so she views these things intensely in the extreme left liberal frame, and the original sin has become white guilt.
It's crystal clear to me in her insane world view.
it's hard-baked into white people, their guilt. Which is literally, I mean, Firas has written an article about this, saying, look, this is genuinely the Christian doctrine of original sin, just taken out of its context, because at least Christianity is all about forgiveness and humility and being a good person in the now, right? Wokeism isn't any of that. Wokeism is, oh, you have original sin,
but I hate you. And I want you destroyed. And there's no forgiveness. There's no redemption. And that's why I feel guilty. Okay, well, if you were a Christian, you'd be able to purge these feelings through the process of going through the rituals and doing the things that Christians do. But with Woke,
it just gets bottled up. There's no getting rid of this. You can't go to a confession. There's no absolution. There's nothing you can do. There's no good works, apart from protesting, which even then, there's no formalized structure Get rid of the feelings. No, You have the original sin, but it's bottled up forever.
Well, that was what was going to be.
One of the next things I was going to say is that it's different to original sin in so far that that no amount of contrition is enough, no amount of confession, there is no forgiveness for it correct, and so that's truly, truly demented yeah, it's genuinely demented.
And I genuinely think this is what's driving this segment of liberal white women absolutely bonkers.
I think it's driving them completely mad because they look around and go, well i'm, i'm quite lucky, i'm privileged, I have a nice life, I have a, you know, nice husband.
You know, we both earn a nice wage and we follow the rules and we obey the laws and we do the right things, and some people don't have that.
It's like yeah, okay.
some people don't have that. But that's not because you took it from them. Right? And it's not, and honestly, in the case of, like, Somali fraudsters, there's nothing you can do to raise them up to your level. That can never happen. They will never follow the right process to get to your point. And those that do will get to your point, and will end up being able to go, yeah, no, deport those guys. You know, why would you want those in your country? You know, they're just scammers and fraudsters who broke in illegally. Get rid of them, you know? Like the law-abiding, rule-following, hard-working Somalis, you know, whichever,
whatever constituency that is in that community. They would want them gone too. You know, but you are sat there with this irrepressible guilt you can't get rid of and because you can't get rid of it it leads you to do mental things and get yourself in positions where like this this woman in particular, It's like I'm pretty sure this is the point where she's like, you know what, maybe I just need to not do this.
Yeah, have I taken a wrong turn somewhere?
Have I got something wrong in my world view?
Absolutely mad.
And I feel sorry for them.
I feel sorry that they have a religion that doesn't allow them to arrive at the point that Christianity would have allowed them to arrive at.
It's mimicking the same moral structures.
It's got some of the same precepts.
It just doesn't have those other areas that allow it to be a coherent and wholesome worldview, rather than an insane, guilt -ridden, destructive one.
Luke says, the more I see these liberal women, the more I think MGTOW is right.
Publican women.
No, no, again,
it's most women voted for Trump, right? It's not all women. And I do want us to be very clear about that. It's not all women. It is actually about 10% of the population of these sort of radical left-wing liberal women who want to be deeply religious because they want to feel their spirit is saved. That's what this is all about. They want to feel that they're on good terms with the universe. That's what they're trying to get to. And because the religion that they have doesn't allow that,
they are kind of losing their minds. This is why women must be married and have ten kids. Okay, come on, you don't need ten kids. Although that would be impressive. That way women will focus on what's particular and real, not weird abstract ideas. Exactly. Like this. This sort of high-level politics is not what these women were designed for. These women were designed to make sure that in their local communities everything was going really well. Like, evolutionarily,
That's their role in life and they're applying that to things where it's just not appropriate.
It's just not appropriate.
No, you do not need to worry about the Somali community anyway.
We'll move on sorry okay, in a few more chats, or it's all right, we'll get okay time.
Time issue, all right.
Well, so let's talk a little bit about Reform, Nigel Farage and uh, the Sahari defection.
Shall we a bit of an odd one.
Shall we a bit of an odd one?
Um, you saw this coming.
Um, you saw this coming.
I woke up this morning.
I woke up this morning.
Oh, thank god, Nadim Zahawi is defected to Reform what who?
Oh, thank god, Nadim Zahawi is defected.
To Reform what who?
Who thought about him?
Who thought about him?
Yeah, I thank god.
It lends so much gravitas to Reform, doesn't it?
Yeah, it reflects so well on Reform.
It's very, I mean, does it?
Does it though?
Okay well, so here's I mean here's a headline.
I mean Tory says Harvey peerage request turned down before defection to Reform UK.
So first thing to say about it is that he was trying to get a peerage.
That is trying to become ennoble.
become the Lord Zahari and it just wasn't going to happen.
He basically got a no on that.
Well, it's because of the tax issues.
Right.
So there's a scandal in his past about tax.
So they were like, no.
So it's a no on that.
Week late, it affects the reform.
Now he decides it's the right thing to do to join reform.
Yeah, all right, mate.
If you say so.
Shall we have a quick, just listen to this?
Even if you don't yet realise that Britain needs reform, you know in your heart of hearts that our wonderful country is sick.
How many of you at home have thought to yourselves that nothing works today?
I know I have, and I have a damn sight easier than most people.
That is why I'm standing here today as the newest member of Reform UK.
I mean...
he's obviously not wrong, but that's kind of trite to say at this point. Yeah, it's like, nothing really works in Britain. Whose fault's that? You didn't happen to have been in the government that caused that, did you, Nadim? Yeah, You weren't right at the Pinnacle of Government for years.
You weren't the treasurer or something, were you?
Yeah.
Yeah, we know nothing works.
I just don't believe...
I'm not buying the faux sincerity of it all.
That suddenly he's decided the correct political move is to join reform.
No, it's because...
He lost his seat in 2024.
He didn't even try and stand for it, right?
But he knew he was going to lose.
Cure cowardice, political cowardice.
Rishi Sunak and the 250 Conservative MPs who got politically slaughtered in the 2024 election.
He was one of them.
Yeah, right, yeah.
And so he knew it was not going to happen, so he didn't run.
Yeah.
That's like...
It's kind of pathetic, isn't it?
I think.
Yeah.
Politically.
But it looks then like an attempt to sort of worm his way back in, right?
Yeah.
Oh, the wind is with Nigel at the moment.
Okay, well...
why don't I just sidle over to that aisle? And, yeah, no, the country's sick, it needs reform. Don't know how this happened. Yeah. Don't know who was in government when it caused this, but, oh, it's rough. Must have been Keir Starmer or something. It's like, no, it was the Conservatives between 2019 and 2024. You did this to us. All of it. In my opinion, he's someone that should really answer for his crimes and misdemeanours during government. Yeah, I mean,
don't get me wrong. Absolutely answer for that. Not just sidle over and be back in government under Nige. No, you're wrong. Prior to that Labour were terrible. They also did some of this to us and Keir Starmer is also doing other things to us. But you you need to own this. And as a general point I was going to leave it to you a bit later in the segment but just saying now,
isn't somebody exactly like him supposed to be the exact person that reform was meant to be replacing? What, failed Conservative politicians who ruined the country? Yeah, I would have thought so. Wasn't that the whole one of the reasons for being for reform, was to give an alternative to him, right? I mean, yes. I don't understand what reform is doing either. I mean,
Nigel and Richard Tice's line has always been, we will never have any sort of deal or compact with the Tory parties. That's off the table. We will not do it. But individual ones, even some of the worst actors among them. We will. Take them in. Welcome with open arms, though.
How does that make sense?
I don't know.
I just couldn't understand why they took Nadine Doris as well.
She's a hardcore Boris Parton.
She's been incredibly close to her and incredibly instrumental in all the things that Boris did.
It's like, why would you want her?
Why would you want him?
Who's next?
Rishi Sadek?
Let's just go, let's say Matt Hancock.
If Matt Hancock wanted to join Reform, would Nigel take him in?
I don't know.
I mean...
What if Michael Gove wants to join?
Is there a Tory that you won't take?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the accusation that a reform is a project of being the Teal Tories, Tories 2.0, a lot of reform people say, no, come on, that's nonsense, let's be reasonable, that's not really it, it's much more than that, much deeper than that.
Tourist 2.0, a lot of reform.
People say no, come on, that's nonsense.
Let's be reasonable.
That's not really it.
It's much more than that, much deeper than that.
It's like, is it though now?
It's like, is it though, now?
Well, let's go through it.
Let's go through it.
Nigel Farage, Ex-tory.
Lee Anderson, Ex-tory.
Richard Tice Ex-tory, obviously.
Danny Kruger, uh.
Jonathan Gullis uh um, Nadim here uh, but then you've got other ones, uh, Lailia Cunningham, Ex-tory candidate uh, what was the Sarah Pochin Ex-tory?
Uh, the Andrea Jenkins Dame, Andrea Jenkins Ex-tory.
And then you've got a bunch of councillors that you don't know the names of, but they were Ex-tory councillors.
It's like sorry, let's.
It'd be easier to count the people who weren't.
Even Rupert Lowe was a member of the Conservative Party until 1993.
He left it.
I mean, don't get me wrong, getting out early, you know, getting out in 1993 with the Maastricht Treaty.
But even Rupert Lowe's...
The only people, as far as I'm aware, who weren't are James McMurdoch and the mayor, who's the boxer, whose name I can't remember offhand.
As far as I can tell, they are the only two who were never actually...
I think they've got a couple of Labour defections as well and the councillors.
But it's literally a handful of them who were not Tories.
And these people, like, you know, either weren't in politics or at a low level in the Labour Party, right?
So they were councillors in the Labour Party.
Okay, what's that mean?
They're not former Tory government who ruined the country and ruined their own careers and are clearly using Nigel as a life raft to get back into the limelight.
back into the spotlight. Because that's clearly what's happening here. Yeah. With Zahari, certainly. Certainly. You just made it. Nadine Dorries. Certainly. I mean, the first thing she did was like, oh, you know what you should do? You should get Boris in. What the fuck was that? Boris! Get Boris into what? You know, Traitor's Gate? Like, Jesus! Are you mental? Nigel, why are you surrounding yourself with these people? You should be, like,
making a public example of them, frankly. You know, like, so-and-so appealed to us to see if they'd join the party, but we refused. We are not taking members of the former Conservative government that inflicted the Boris wave on us. No Nadeem Doris. No Nadeem Hasari Zahawi or whatever his name is. Like,
what are you talking about? Your actions preclude you. Anyway, I'm raving because it's just baffling. I just don't understand the decisions he's making. Well, I said on the morning show, Breakfast with Beau, I said I watch it every morning, by the way, because there's nothing else on in the morning. And so, like, there is this talk TV. I'm not watching that, and my gram,
I'm not watching that. So when I'm getting ready in the shower and brushing my teeth and stuff, I'm catching up on the day's headlines with Beau. I said on that that it's just, you know, would the average reform member, or the average person that is considering voting reform, it would have been Exactly this sort of person you would think you would hope Farage would draw a line at. Because I think when the Nadine Doris thing came up, she said, Let's get Boris in.
I think there was a decision made at Reform to say no, we are going to draw the line at Boris himself.
Oh, thank god, you would have thought, you would have hoped that that would extend to exactly someone like Zahawi, anyone in Boris's cabinet yeah, anyone that was actually in cabinet during the years of treason sorry treason anyone that's properly in there.
And the thing is, there are no but, and I can understand if if say, Swella Braveman is an example where uh, she was obviously in Rishi Sunak's cabinet uh, and since then she's come out hard against Rishi Sunak.
She's been like no, he stopped me from doing anything.
I went and begged him.
Look, I know the laws we need to get rid of.
I know how to get rid of these people, let me do it.
And apparently Rishi Sunak said no right, she's come out and publicly castigated her prior government.
Okay, maybe there's a case for Sweller Braveman then, right? Because her actions show that she's been I'm very much against it. Now, I'm not saying he has to, and it's fair if you don't want him to, right? But at least there's an argument there. What's Nadeem Zahawi done? Nothing. Is there any contrition whatsoever for what he did when he was in government? No, there isn't, no. He was defending his position on vaccine passports, for example, the other day. Exactly. It's night and day. And yet, for some reason, he hasn't got Sweller, even though Sweller Braverman's husband is a member of Reform,
Like Rail Braverman.
He's a public reform supporter for some reason.
He hasn't got her, but he has got this guy.
What are you?
What's going on?
Yeah, I mean, let's have a quick look at him.
So it was sort of all the bad things, yeah.
So, like he was pro vaccine passports, yeah, he was very, very pro vaccine passports yeah yeah, full blown.
Um, he's sort of pro um, he was pro sort of migration, sort of a globalist, essentially.
Or even at the Oxford Union um, you know, almost gloating really, that some, specifically Somalis take loads and loads of money out of our economy and send it back home.
That that's somehow a good thing.
He literally said that their economy would collapse if it wasn't for remittances from the Somali diaspora.
So I mean, and this is why immigration is good for Britain that was the argument that he was defending mad in that Oxford Union debate.
It's like sorry okay, he is an immigrant right, he came from Iraq when he was 11 years old, was it?
Sorry okay, he is an immigrant right, he came from Iraq when he was 11 years old, was it?
Yeah uh, and the boy from Baghdad.
Yeah uh, and the boy from Baghdad.
And he keeps using the term British dream as well, which I find very sinister because okay, the American dream makes sense if you've got a giant, undiscovered country and you want a kind of ideology that makes people all on the same page.
Fair enough, that makes sense because you've got this giant frontier that you need to get populated.
Uh, but we are not a giant frontier.
We there is, you know.
You are not coming to our country to like, you know, fulfill your dreams of becoming rich and fake.
No no no, you've got your own countries.
This, this country is massively overpopulated like, but the way he keeps saying it he said it in the Uh speech with Nigel he's like, yeah no I, I fulfilled my British dreams.
Like, there's no such thing.
It sounds tin-eared when you say it.
right? American dream makes sense. You know, it's part of the mythos of America. It's not part of the mythos of Britain. We were ultra-exclusionary until about 1948. No one came to this country, and with good reason. We haven't got endless prairies for people to settle on, have we? Weirdly. And the other thing, he said in the past, he'd said that he was frightened by the idea of a country led by Nigel Farage. And that Nigel Farage is racist and things. He just did say it. God,
give me the Nigel Farage that they think we're getting. I mean, a bit of cope there when they were asked about it. You know. And yeah, the thing about there was the tax issues in his past that he did pay up for. Um, yeah, there's an article there. He thinks we forgot about his tax scandal. We haven't. I mean, there you go. He said, that's a tweet. If anyone's only listening to this,
it's from Zahari himself. It's from 2015 now. You might say it is a while ago, but not that long ago. I mean, it's not like I mean, he was only what, 48 when he wrote it. 47. It's just a young, confused kid. Yeah, he didn't know. He's just inexperienced. Do you know he began his career as an advisor to Geoffrey Archer? Yeah, I did see that the other day. That's weird. Disgraced Geoffrey Archer. Yeah, for anyone who doesn't know,
just look up his Wikipedia bio. Shorthand for being a disgrace, Geoffrey Archer. Yeah. So he said, I'm not British born, Mr Farage, but I am as British as you are. Your comments are offensive and racist. I would be frightened to live in a country run by you. Based. If only. But now it's his only vehicle back into government, So he's just changed his tune.
This is amazing, though.
I'm not British-born, correct.
Yeah, you were born in Iraq.
I am as British as you are.
Okay, but what does British then mean in this sentence?
Nothing.
Exactly.
It means nothing.
It's literally got no descriptive power.
If an Iraqi and Nigel Farage, a pretty average Englishman by most accounts, are just as British as one another, then being British has no exclusionary power.
It doesn't mean anything.
Someone in Papua New Guinea would be like, yeah, I'm just as British as Nigel Farage as well, actually.
Actually, you know, someone in Vladivostok is like, yes Conrad i'm, i'm British today, you know, like I can't do an accent, but like there's, there's no reason why can't the penguins in Antarctica go?
Someone in Vladivostok is like, yeah, I can't write it.
I'm British today.
I can't do an accent, but there's no reason.
Why can't the penguins in Antarctica go, yeah, we're British too?
Yeah, we're British too, because what stops them from being British?
Because what stops them from being British?
You know yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's a classic sort of and I love the oh, it's offensive and racist.
All right, you leftist?
Yeah, it's offensive and racist.
Is it?
Was it?
I don't even care.
Um yeah well uh, so now there's another old tweet where he says, like Nigel Farage, there's no chance of him joining as their new Kip or whatever.
Um, that that he nad him, has been a conservative all his life and will die a conservative, but not now.
Though?
You were a conservative when you were 10 years old in Iraq.
Just out of interest, Were your parents conservative politicians in Iraq?
I don't know.
What's going on?
What are we talking about?
At what age did you dream of joining the 1922 committee?
Was it always?
Was it from birth?
You're there in Baghdad thinking, if only I could get on the 1922 committee, then I'd be a happy man.
I'll die a conservative.
Until they're tanking in the polls, then maybe I won't.
Until they fail to give you a peerage and at that point you'll turn your back on them.
Because I never thought the UKIP guy would be the leading politician.
So here's a little bit when somebody actually asked him just yesterday, just directly about that tweet.
Catherine, good on you for digging out a tweet from 11 years ago, But all I would say to you is, if I thought this man sitting next to me was in any way had an issue with people of my colour or my background, Who have integrated, assimilated, proud of this country, worked hard for this country,
paid millions of pounds in taxes in this country, invested in the country, I wouldn't be sitting next to him, And I think he wouldn't be sitting next to me either,
quite. I mean, to be honest with you, at least this argument, I'm an integration success story. Yeah, I'm sure Geoffrey Archer taught you everything you needed to know, like, you know, about avoiding tax or whatever. And then go wrong. Yeah,
yeah, why do we need to, yeah. So he was like a token DEI hire or under like Cameron or whatever. They decided they wanted someone of that colour and that background. He did a great job for the Tory party. Nigel's thinking he can do a great job for us on that front as well. Why not? Yeah,
and this is the same with Lali Cunningham. It's not the thing is, it's not even that he's necessarily a bad communicator. No, he's not. I don't agree with the things that he has done while he was in government, but the same with Lalia Cunningham. It's like, Like, she's a good communicator, and she's defending her position relatively well, actually.
But the Dan Woodson position of, yeah, but why do we have to have Muslims being the people that represent us?
It's the same with Zia Yusuf.
Like, actually, Zia Yusuf has done quite well on question time, representing the nativist position recently, right?
Yeah.
But why do we have to have people who are not natives being the only ones who are allowed to defend the position?
The position is clearly defensible, which is why Lalia Cunningham, Zia Yusuf, and I guess Nadeem Zahawi will do this now.
Why are the native British not allowed to defend it themselves?
That's the question.
And, like, you got kicked out of reform.
Tubbs got kicked out of reform.
Rupert Lowe, James McMurdoch, you know, all of the sort of people.
Because the thing is, in a lot of ways, to what Zia Yusuf was saying on question time, you guys don't say that much different.
Like, you know, in a lot of ways, you guys are basically on the same platform.
It's just, you're not a Muslim.
So have you thought about converting, Bo?
You've got the beard.
I'm afraid not.
But, I mean, let's let him speak for himself a bit.
You might have to turn it up a bit, Samson.
Samson.
I was born in Baghdad.
I was born in Baghdad.
My memoirs are called The Boy From Baghdad.
My memoirs are called The Boy From Baghdad.
We came to these shores in 1979.
We came to these shores in 1979.
I was 11 years old.
I was 11 years old.
We came with nothing other than hope and determination.
We came with nothing other than hope and determination, but also knowing that this nation was the most civilized nation on earth.
But also knowing that this nation was the most civilised nation on earth.
But, my friends, today Britain is broken and i'm convinced that Britain needs reform.
But, my friends, today, Britain is broken.
And I'm convinced that Britain needs reform.
Are you I can't even bother to listen to you get the idea this like faux sincerity of like Nigel is the only one that can save the nation?
Are you?
I can't even bother to listen to it.
And it's pretty straightforward.
Everyone can see that we've got problems inflicted on us by the conservative government.
Yeah, so by you and your cabal, by literally you.
Um, so ironically, if it was anyone else like it could literally be almost any other conservative who wasn't in the Boris government.
Yeah like, because that was only what 12 people, something like that I can't remember how many you know exact actual cabinet ministers had.
Like there must be thousands of Tories who, or just hundreds of backbench mps who could have defected.
No, we've got to get one of the architects. Yeah, right. It is like getting Michael Gove or something like that or Matt Hancock or something or else. That's mad. Do you think people are not connecting the dots? So, the real question is, really, what is the thinking? What is Nigel's thinking? Because that's what we touched on earlier, wasn't it? Like, what is his calculation? Well, he tweeted this, just saying, I warmly welcome Nadhim Zahari to Reform UK. A successful businessman who reached the top of the tree in politics and knows how to get stuff done. What's his business? So,
I've got to take Nigel on his word that that's genuinely what his thinking is on it.
Oh, I believe it, too.
Yeah, I believe it.
I'm not, yeah, Nadhim Zahari has money.
I don't think that's just massively cynical or a lie or anything from Nigel.
I think that's what he really thinks and feels.
But isn't it just behind the curve of how most people are thinking in the country?
Isn't it just a little bit insulting to anyone that can remember?
Only four years ago.
Yeah, He's a successful businessman.
I mean, so what?
Who cares, really?
Are there not successful businessmen who didn't try and lock the country down and inflict vaccine passports on us?
Right, There must be a few, And he reached the top of the tree in politics.
I mean is that again but is that a positive isn't that a sort of a detriment to his character that under the conservative party and that whole disgraceful administration the country has had in my memory yeah he did reach the top of the tree the fact that he achieved that is that a good achievement is that something that reflects well on reform like the idea that it just lends that's just the general purpose idea that it lends reform gravitas
Because he was once chancellor.
I love the idea.
Is that worth it?
Nigel thinks there's some floating voter out there who's like you know, I might vote for reform, but they just don't have.
Nadeem Zahawi yeah, and if they did i'd be all on board, but they don't, so I can't.
If only they had a Boris Era senior secretary of state in their ranks.
If only oh yeah, yeah I bet most of the public don't know who he is maybe yeah, and that he gets stuff done.
Yeah, what stuff?
Yeah yeah, not stuff I want.
What stuff did he get done, though?
Yeah, I mean, I guess Nigel's thinking is just simply.
It's just simply the case that there's, there's a prestige, like a real sort of gold-plated prestige that comes with having been the prime minister you.
the Home Secretary, the Foreign Secretary, the Chancellor. And that if one of those people were in his ranks, it just means we're ready for government now. So does he take Angela Rayner? Angela Rayner, former Deputy Prime Minister. Does he take Jess Phillips if she wants to defect? Like,
you know, she's one of the Home Office ministers. Like, Rachel Reeves. She's Chancellor of the Exchequer, mate. There's prestige in it, isn't there? She's defecting from Labour all of a sudden. Are you taking her in? It's a shaky logic. It's ridiculous. When you look under that paper-thin veneer of an argument,
as soon as you look under it, you look at who he is and what he actually did in office. Conservatives, 10% of the polls. Labour, like 18% of the polls. Reform, 32% of the polls. I need one of those guys. No, no, the prestige is in being the top of the polls. Party in the country, you don't gain prestige from failed conservatives. They gain prestige from you. Like,
you are giving him a lease of life he otherwise wouldn't have. There's no way Nadeem Zahawi is getting back into government, if not through Nigel Farage. So why do you need that guy? Like, Nigel doesn't seem to have come to terms with the fact that he's winning. Like, He doesn't seem to have come to terms with it.
It does seem to have been, I think, didn't you say this morning, there was a poll that said, a YouGov poll, ironically, that said reform was down a couple of points on the back of this.
There are, no, no, yeah, there are, no, no, it wasn't on the back of this.
Because this was only announced today or yesterday.
This was a poll that was done a couple of days earlier.
So the consequence of this will come out in the polls.
The thing is, he's all over the place, you know, like somewhere on like 26 to sort of 33, that sort of range.
So if you roughly go to about 30%, that's a fairly consistent, it's been a bit of a downtip recently.
And I don't think this is the thing that's going to start pushing it back up.
Yeah, I mean, I wonder, because a lot of reform voters and supporters are kind of locked in.
Nigel sort of can't do any wrong.
A lot of them are pissed off about this.
But I was just going to say, but I wonder though if this actually will turn a lot of people off. The argument I made earlier, he's exactly the enemy. Yeah. You should be, politically speaking, you should be the absolute enemy of reform,
and everything they stand for should be, shouldn't it? And I wonder if many, sort of, reform would-be voters or members are, sort of, you know, really turned off by it. I've heard through the grapevine, people are kind of furious. Why? And I just don't understand what knowledge thinks he's gaining from it. Like, Like, experiencing government.
It's like, I don't know, man.
I think you'll be fine.
Well, let's see what Rupert Lowe had to say about it.
It's a reasonably long tweet, but if I read it, he says, I'm very strongly of the view that in the next general election, we need hundreds...
Who's this?
We need hundreds of candidates put forward to the British people that have largely had zero involvement in politics up to that point.
I will work tirelessly to make sure that is provided in some form.
After the shameful news from reform today, i.e. the defection, I'm more convinced than ever of its necessity.
I am absolutely certain that we do not need a host of failed Conservative MPs manipulating the rightful anger of the British people to slink back into Parliament.
Farage has got it wrong again.
And sadly, it has revealed what really drives him.
I do not believe that it is in the best interests of the country.
I'm sorry, I just don't.
I understand people are frustrated that I remain an independent without a political party.
I'm one of them, Rupert.
Come on.
Yeah, me too.
Give them something to back.
Yes, give us an option.
Give us something to beat the drum for.
Rupes.
Prince Rupert.
give us an option, please. We're dying over here. We're dying on our asses out here. Come on. That's a lifeline. But we are going to have one shot at getting this right, and we need to get it right. There is no other choice. Alongside that, if we wait until 2029 to deliver the change the country so desperately needs, there won't be a Britain left to restore. This is the immediate priority. That is why decent-minded MPs must come together now to fight for a different Britain today. That's what I'm trying to do through Restore and in Parliament. Some wins,
some If we do a good job now, as so often in life, a path will present itself. If it does not,
one will be forged in the coming months. There will be a viable alternative at the next election, I promise you that. Great. Tantalising. It is. I would like to hear more about this viable alternative. What is the viable alternative and the hundreds of candidates you're talking about there, Rupert?
What is that?
What are we doing here?
Let's go.
I'm all up.
Let's go, baby.
Speaking of the words of Rupert Lowe Oh yes Good point.
Rupert Lowe has an interview in Islander 5 about Oliver Cromwell and the nature of power in Parliament.
Cromwell happens to be one of his favourite historical figures so, for anyone who doesn't know, and he named his dog Cromwell.
So you know, Rupert is not not a shrinking violet when it comes to political action.
Will he be our Lord Protector for reals?
Lord Protector for real, though?
I don't have a party, but trust me, something's, happening in 2029, so that's, either he starts a party of his own or he starts an armed uprising.
So I'm a good, committed Democrat, so of course, I hope that he starts a party that we can vote for.
But you can read the interview at shop .lisleys .com, Get Island Of Five.
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It's such a great cover, um and uh, it's, it's our fastest selling one yet.
Anyway, all right, what a few super chats.
Yeah uh, Nigel is so keen to shed his racist image, he'd welcome Abu Hamza into the park.
Well, I mean, it's just jokes like that all over twitter, aren't there that Shameika Begum's the new counselor?
Yeah yeah, Tony Blair, you know like who doesn't Nigel accept?
Uh, to Straw Man, Steel Man, I think Steel Man the argument.
Uh, Nigel could be doing this to make easier to get the conservatives to join him if he has to form a coalition.
Coalition, quite possibly, but honestly, I think this kind of weakness is why Farage isn't tearing ahead in the polls right now.
Right, it would be at 40, I think so 50, because I mean like, and the thing is, Boris was at 52 at one point in the polls uh Kissed, Armor was at like 48 50, something like that.
When he first took it, he was, you know, they cut, they came in on some really good will and Nigel's trailing at between 26 to 33, it's like.
But Nigel, you are, you couldn't be better positioned for any, for what's going on right now and for some reason, you're not seizing the moment. Anyway, let's move on. All right. So, I want to talk about the strange death of crypto Twitter. Now, I don't really follow crypto Twitter, but it popped up on my timeline recently,
and actually something very interesting came out of it. Now, as Lena here is like, can someone please explain what crypto Twitter is usually chatting about nowadays? So, crypto being cryptocurrency, right? So, investing When this popped up in my timeline, I was like okay, what is this all about?
So I tried looking into it and basically I came to the position that Linda's on, Lena is on, where it's just like I have no idea what they're doing.
I've no idea what this is, because they don't seem to actually be talking substantively about anything.
Uh, as she says, you know, they're not talking about things that will move the crypto markets not that I can tell.
Okay, like if they are, it just was hidden from me.
Uh, she says there are no real products in crypto.
Even after 15 years, it doesn't moon anymore.
I don't know what that is.
What?
What's the point, unless you're running a scam?
Blah blah, blah.
Right now, it's just low energy.
Good morning friends.
Copium Den right okay, that's interesting.
Uh, and so a lot of the crypto users uh, crypto twitter types.
Uh, from the CTS.
were complaining that actually they feel that their algorithmic reach has been limited. On Twitter? On Twitter. And so it became a bit of a meme in the crypto Twitter sphere that they think, Hang on a second.
Why is Elon and his company shadow banning us and algorithmically limiting us so we can't promote crypto, like what's going on?
I mean, you think of all the people to do it.
Why would Elon be trying to crush crypto, right?
And so they forced, as you can see here, uh Nick Nikita Beer, who is the product manager for Twitter.
Uh, this big angry mob of uh crypto twitter types were like, well, hang on a second.
Why are we getting de-boosted uh?
And so the the mob forced Nikita to uh explain how things work.
So he's like, look, the algorithm is built from scratch by the XAI team.
And just to be clear, he's not actually on the XAI team. Right. So he actually doesn't directly deal with the algorithm. But he's obviously close to the team that does and so you can pass things across to them. He's the product manager. So he runs on 20,000 GPUs at the Colossus data center. Blah,
blah, blah. Right. So it's a massive undertaking. That's Greek to me. I've got no idea what that means. It's big. I get it. It's big. Your computer at home has one. So you play all your games on that and it has one. Right. So Massive,
right? And so, he posted this in response to people. Now, he has since deleted this, but I suspect this is correct, right? And this is really fascinating, because it changed the way I thought about algorithms and the way that people, I think, are thinking about algorithms is basically wrong, right? Now, this isn't going to be a universal metric or procedure. This is definitely just for Twitter, because As the social media giants go,
Twitter has always been the smallest of the social media giants, but it's also been the most influential, right? So Twitter is where elite opinion is formed, and this is why Jack Dorsey's Twitter was gatekept so hard. Like, you know, think of all the right-wingers who kicked off, like myself,
like Steve Bannon, all those sorts of, you know, Roger Stone, all the sort of, yeah, Trump himself, yeah, literally. It was, they know that elite opinion is formed on Twitter, because it has kind of addictive quality to it, You know, it's gamified. You want the likes, you want the retweets, you want the plaudits, you know, it's an addictive thing to get reinforcement. It's kind of fun. If you've got a thick enough skin, it's fun. It is fun. I agree. It's got this kind of gamified aspect to it,
where people post opinions, post information, and it's, like I said, gamified, the exchange of information. And so it is fun, right? But you've got to be a certain kind of person to use it, and the general public generally are not those kinds of people. Actually, it kind of self-selects for those politically engaged types who are happy to be in the Thunderdome and take the slings and arrows. It is like an all-on-all Royal Rumble, 24-7, all the gates to all, no hold barred,
skull crushing. It is a PvP platform. Because it is a game and it is PvP. It's true, right? Whereas a lot of other platforms are not like that. Instagram is a lot more relaxed. Facebook's a lot more relaxed, actually. YouTube is very siloed, you know,
in many ways. Twitter is not quite like that. But it's also, like I said, the smallest. So Twitter, I think, last I checked, there was about 500 million people who regularly used it, which sounds like a lot. No, no, sorry, there were 500 million accounts. I think you are right to say, I think it is fair to say that it's sort of where elite opinion is from.
Because even, like, governments and things, and massive, massive multinational governments, they'll put out a statement on Twitter, and the mainstream legacy media report what they put on Twitter.
I mean, it's right there, right?
It really is.
Yeah, it's fair to say that.
It's the premier platform for...
Apparently, 611 million monthly users, which sounds like a lot, but Facebook's got 2 billion.
You know, and, like, YouTube, again, monthly users, again, it's in the billions.
So, and, you know, logging onto Twitter and tweeting something once a month makes you a monthly user.
So, you know, how engaged these people are is a real question, right?
And so, getting back to Nick's point here.
getting back to Nick's point here so Twitter has a different way of serving things and under Elon is trying to optimise for different things, right, compared to like YouTube and what not.
So, Twitter has a different way of serving things, and under Elon is trying to optimize for different things, right, compared to, like, YouTube and whatnot.
So, he tweeted this.
So he tweeted this.
In October, a new myth started in crypto Twitter that you need to reply hundreds of times per day to grow an account.
In October a new myth started in crypto Twitter that you need to reply hundreds of times per day to grow an account.
Now this is kind of true on Facebook, right?
Because Facebook is a massive platform with millions of people just constantly scrolling, right?
Like billions of people, sorry, just constantly scrolling.
So every time someone flips up the algorithm, right, I've got to get a new slate of posts that seem relevant to this person's interest to fill the feed.
And YouTube does the same.
Whereas like YouTube tries to maximise the chances of you clicking on a video, right?
But that's not what Twitter is trying to maximise.
because it's a different platform, right? So, Twitter lives or dies on the impressions, the quality of the impressions, whereas YouTube lives or dies on whether you click on the thing. So, it's a different incentive and a different mechanism for delivery, right? So you don't need to reply hundreds of times a day to grow an account on Twitter? You don't? No. You absolutely don't? No. So, on Facebook, you've got billions of people who are constantly scrolling, yeah, posting loads and loads of stuff. Means you're put in front of more and more and more people, right? With YouTube, you put up three,
four videos, you get more impressions in aggregate than you do if you just post one video. Makes sense, yeah. So the crypto Twitter guys have taken the algorithms for other platforms and imported them to Twitter, the governing philosophy. But Twitter doesn't work that way. And so the crypto Twitter guys started just posting GM. Good morning. Good morning. Under each other's posts, constantly spamming GM with Pepe images and stuff like that. Each other,
Each other yeah, and so in this sort of closed loop yeah right, and so you know oh, i'm part of Crypto Twitter, so i'm in this network, and so everyone on the network is constantly gem gem, which okay great trying to game the system a bit or the way they thought the system worked.
At least, if we all get loads of interaction, then the algorithm boosts us right, if look at if we're all interacting.
And it was kind of the same in India where they were like verified accounts replying with nonsense to each other to get money out of the system, which Elon put a damper on.
But so you've got these people who have mistakenly thought that Twitter acts in the same way as every other social media platform.
So it's just, number of posts means increased reach and Nick's like well uh no actually, each time you post.
it uses some of your reach for the day. We can't show all your posts to all your followers because the average user only views 20 to 30 posts a day. So there we are. Now you see the sort of, okay, if you had billions of people who are just constantly scrolling like on Facebook or Instagram because the content isn't high pressure. On Twitter, there's a lot of rage bait, and there's always been a lot of rage bait. There's a lot of arguments,
it's where the news is broken, and so Twitter is an intense environment, actually, on social media to spend your time in. On Facebook, you've got a lot of AI slop, cat videos, stuff like that. Not intense, right? So if you're just bored,
you sit in front of the TV, you just scroll for the sake of it, you probably go through hundreds of posts on Facebook. But on Twitter, it's a bit more intense. So only about 20, 30 views a day. Actually, the number of things that are being posted can't be served to all of the people that many times. So if you were like, oh, why didn't this one get 100,000 impressions? Well, there is a limit to the number of impressions that can be given because of the number of people using the platform. And so actually,
Twitter has to essentially figure out how many impressions per day a person, a user, can get in order to kind of slice up who gets to see what.
Because the algorithm has to figure this out.
Otherwise, there are going to be users who are just getting no impressions because they were just unlucky that day.
Or just left out of this sort of, you know, all of the impressions that the platform has in that day have all been used, sorry.
So you can just tweet into the void forever.
Or you can have a sort of allocated number.
And that's what he's saying here.
So Crypto Twitter ends up wasting all their reach on replying GM a bunch of times when they finally post real content like a project announcement.
It only gets shown to three people.
Crypto Twitter is dying from suicide, not from the algorithm.
I mean, if that's true, I've got absolutely no reason to doubt the key to beer.
Yeah, sounds like it's from suicide then.
You've tried to game the system on an incorrect assumption.
Yes.
And it's ruined yourself.
It's ruined you.
Yeah.
And so people were kind of unhappy with this.
They were like, oh, right, okay. I'm not allowed to spam GM hundreds of times. It's not even that you're not allowed. You can do it. It's just each one will be seen very, very few times because there are only so many people who can see the post that you're making. And so, you know, people are, you know, just making lists and articles with just nothing, with GM, with memes and stuff. You know, okay, yeah, that's fine. Don't get me wrong. That's quite funny. It is very funny. Twitter is funny. Yeah,
it is. Largely. The Pepe stuff is always funny. I always love Pepe. We'll quick say, my experience of Twitter, to get any sort of traction on it or get a tweet that does well,
my entire experience is that if you say something real and authentic that speaks to people and people agree with. You get clicks and likes and therefore Twitter shows you more people. It's kind of as simple as that. You're not trying to game anyone or anything other than being interesting or funny or relevant. Just do that. Just try and do that. But crypto is about typing GM and complaining. Like,
why am I getting views? What's going on here, right? And as Nick points out here, DM I get every day. You need to increase rate limits. I keep getting locked out of the app. I check their account. User is running a script that replies good morning and yes, totally agree to thousands of posts. As in, Twitter is optimising for value. It is not optimising for quantity. Because actually, quantity is kind of bad for Twitter,
Because they are the smallest of the big social media platforms.
So actually, what you want and Nick uh does say this, in fact, directly.
Oh sorry, before we get on to that, this is the uh, the crypto twitter response.
Uh, how to gm on x without getting banned?
Uh, lessons from his post.
And I mean, so they're still committed to the gm.
Yes, strategy.
Yes okay, they're still like, make them feel human handling gm in your own post.
Don't reply to every single one, just reply to some of them.
You know like what?
No no, you're still trying to game the system.
You're missing the point.
And what has this got to do with crypto?
Have we lost?
I have no idea i've.
Okay, I spent all morning researching this and I have learned nothing about crypto, but I know exactly how the algorithm on twitter it works.
So that was useful.
You know, that was actually a really useful thing um, but the point is, what they're doing essentially gets considered a spam right now.
It is.
You know that's a spam right now.
Right now it's a spam.
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isn't it? It is! If you set up a bot that sets there and goes, right, I want you to GM a thousand posts or something this morning, the bot's like, well, that's obviously spam, what are you doing? And so, this is Nikita's problem with it. It's like, look,
if it's actual discussion people are reading, that's good. If it's just replying GM or cash-tagging a comment with no relevance to the parent post, it will be ranked no better than spam, because that is basically what this is, and how do you expect an algorithm to not read it like that? Like, okay,
it's just posting nonsense that's not getting any real engagement, that nobody actually wants to see, that it makes no one's experience on the platform more interesting. So why would we promote this? I mean, even I, with a relatively small, pretty small Twitter account, like 30 or 1,000,
I'll get replies that it's just someone doesn't follow me and I don't follow them. And it just says, you want to know more about crypto? Click my link. Click the link. And you just ignore it. Or I just quite often block that person. It's not interesting. It's a bot or it's someone that's just trying to just block them or not interested,
mute them, whatever. The algorithm treats them that way. Fine, I've got no problem with that. Do that. Yeah, I don't care. And this is why those guys are coming up in the spam. It's like hidden replies, maybe spam. You click on it, it's a crypto thing. It's like, well, the algorithm thinks you're spam because all you do is spam this because you think the number of posts equals the number of impressions. And actually, that's not the way this works. As he says here, each time you post a three-word slop,
you dig yourself deeper into algorithmic hell. Yeah. Like, stop posting. pointless waste of time things on twitter if you want reach like and again it's just about the constrained nature of twitter it's very quick to tweet it's very easy to tweet but there is a much smaller audience for those tweets overall compared to a facebook post which takes longer to make a youtube video which takes way more to make than a twitter post and yet you know Like,
there's a much bigger audience for a smaller number of videos every day. Like, God knows how many, like, hundreds of millions of tweets are sent every day to 600 million people, right? If it's, you know, maybe it's like 500 million tweets a day, 600 million people, yeah, now you see why your reach is so limited, right? It's like, you can't serve that many tweets to that few people. It's just the nature of the beast. So what you've got to do is make sure each tweet counts. It's a very competitive marketplace,
and you were spamming it, being like, yeah, I'm just going to be Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim. Oh, I'm getting no reach. Yeah, because you're pissing into a very, very big ocean of tweets and wondering while nobody's noticing, right? Do something actually useful. Say something interesting. Exactly. Or funny. Entertaining or amusing in some way. Yeah, just GM is nothing. It's of no value. It's of no use, is it? He says, look,
if you're an algorithm, how would you judge the quality of these posts? Would you show the user's post next to anyone, or would you give their slot to somebody who wrote an essay or recorded a video? You know, it's just like there's no real value to any of these posts, right? And that is basically what the philosophy of Twitter is under Nikita Beer. And I assume that he's there because Elon endorsed him and because he wants unregretted user seconds on the platform,
right? And so he says this, and this is essentially what you need to think about. If you want to get rich on X, it isn't going to be through creator revenue or meme coins. Instead, think about one subject matter that you know more about than anyone else in the world. It can be anything. Plumbing, Menswear uh, Indian food furniture, social apps, whatever you know.
This is how, uh was it?
Derrick guy has got like three million followers or something on twitter.
I don't know who.
That is the menswear guy who keeps criticizing right wingers dress, does he okay?
Yeah, that's all he does right, and it's.
It's kind of funny.
Actually, I don't even mind it, but we're not dapper enough.
Well, we are, but well, we are, obviously.
But Milo Yinopoulos, Andrew Tate, Art okay right uh anyway, post one unexpected insight that you picked from your experience in that area.
Keep it under five sentences.
Do this every day for six months.
If you stick to it, we will promote your account to others because you'll be posting tweets that are novel, innovative and have value.
We will promote your account to others because you'll be posting tweets that are novel, innovative and have value.
You've told someone something that they didn't already know.
You've told someone something that they didn't already know right, they've learned something from you.
Right, they've learned something from you.
It was worthwhile you tweeting.
It was worthwhile you tweeting.
That thing is what he's saying.
Right, by the end, you'll be recognized as the world's leading expert in that subject area, and you can charge whatever you want for endorsements, your time or whatever, and no one will be able to take that away from you.
He's saying, build a career, build a character, become the thing by actually doing the work, and instead gm gm gm, i'm gonna get, you know, five billion impressions and get all the advertising.
By actually doing the work and instead gm gm gm, i'm gonna get, you know, five billion impressions and get all the advertisement.
That's not how twitter works.
That's not how twitter works.
That's not how you make money on twitter, and so the philosophy of twitter is basically contribute value.
Yeah, that's it.
Contribute value and you will get reach.
That's good though.
That's great.
That's great to me.
Yes, because there's no substitute for doing real work, like doing that's correct, doing the reading right.
That's what we'd often say, if you know, if you do a humanities degree anyway, you can't.
There's no say in the office.
There's no substitute to actually doing the reading.
Um, even with just twitter, trying to build a twitter account above 200 followers, just actually say something that's interesting.
It's not yeah, and you doesn't.
It doesn't have to be more than one tweet a day.
Even really does it, I mean.
my average on Twitter is about 20 tweets a day. Yeah, which sounds like a lot, but it's actually really low. Yeah, I don't even hear that. You probably do. Some days, some days. You'd be surprised how easy it is to tweet, That's the thing.
right you'd be surprised how many tweets you put out like i mean like you know there are people who tweet hundreds of times a day yeah but even though that's not that much you know there are people who tweet thousands of times a day you know i tried to get it down below 20 just because that makes each tweet more impactful right if you actually look at my twitter feed like i've i don't tweet that much but when i tweet because i try to make it a more impactful tweet you know that goes further i'll get a lot of uh views and likes and retweets and whatnot you know so like you That's how Twitter is done.
It's actually about the less is very much more on Twitter.
Anyway, after a few hours of wrangling with the crypto bros, I can feel his pain, man. I like the crypto bros. They're obviously very right-wing coded, and I like the memes. They're funny, right? But they're approaching the problem in the wrong way. They're not going to get the results they're looking for, and I think structurally they can't. It seems sensible,
and the only way to actually do Twitter is to Focus it around value that is actually created from the post. Yeah, I've got nothing against crypto, bros. I'm interested in crypto. Tell me something real. I don't learn anything about crypto! Tell me something real about crypto markets, what moves crypto markets. Talk to me. Talk to me, Goose. Come on. Just don't give me GM. Yeah, I can't work with that. You're giving me nothing here. Put GM at the beginning of an interesting post. Right, yeah, do that, maybe. GM, this is what you need to do to invest in Bitcoin. Like,
I don't know about investing in Bitcoin, you know, you could be helping me out here. Anyway, people are, like, dragging him, and he's just, like, he's taking good humor, to be honest, you know. You've got to, haven't you? You've got to have a chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he tweeted out this morning, GM, it's fixed. I don't know what that means. That's a troll. Surely he's trolling. I've no idea. Like, I don't know what, you know, what can be fixed because of the issue with the position of Twitter on the market, basically,
in the social media game. So I don't know what can be fixed. No explanation. I mean, maybe he explains it a bit further down, actually. I don't know. Seen more of his followers? I don't know. I think he's probably trolling. But the point is, these guys have just approached. Twitter in completely the wrong way. Actually, the design philosophy is quite a good one. Yeah, I think so. Maximise value. Make your post worthwhile. And this is why every now and again, you'll tweet something kind of offhand, But it'll click in a bunch of people's minds, like I had one the other day.
That was just 153 000 likes.
I was just like.
I did that like just on the toilet, not thinking about it, you know, it's like, and there's something like you know 10 million people have seen, or something it's like, oh Jesus, I had for that.
I had a relatively for me, a relatively successful tweet the other day, just something about Saturn yeah, and it was like it was just a.
I never thought for a million, in fact, I suspected it wouldn't do very well at all, but for whatever reason, it was kind of interesting, I suppose, and for whatever reason it did well again for me.
And um yeah, it was just a throwaway thing, I wasn't trying to calculate how can I get the most possible engagement?
How can I game twitter and win twitter?
It wasn't that, it was just like.
here's something I think is interesting, throw it out to the world, maybe some people will. And that's what Twitter is optimised for, interesting things that people are actually going to talk about or enjoy. So, that's how to win Twitter, CryptoBros. Let's go to the video comments. Hewitt says, Nigel is so keen to shed his racist image, he'd welcome Abu Hamza to the party. I think I read that, but yeah, I think that's true. The boys at Lodeseaters deserve peerages more than Zahawi. Lord Benjamin of Swindon,
Lord Dade of Clifton Pub and Grill, Lord Dan of the Spearmint Rider, and also Charles should promote Dankula to a duke. We're going to go to a count. We don't have counts, do we? It's a shame, Really.
It could be an earl or a duke.
Can't it be a baron?
Any lord is a baron, or any lord peerage is a baronage.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Alright, okay.
I don't know how it works.
Let's go through the video comments.
So do you know who the last white girl to get unalived by law enforcement in Minneapolis was, before Renee Goode?
No.
You don't, and I bet you don't know that the person who did it was the first Somali police officer in the entire United States and that they were convicted of murder and it was later overturned by the Minnesota Supreme Court and they only served a couple years.
Bet you didn't know that, did you?
I did not know that.
I did not know that.
That was news, that's news to me. There we go. Okay. Let's go to the next one. Here we are. And in fact, if you look, come to think of it, I got to look at this myself. Brilliant. Love it. Wow. What a view. You know what,
right? I don't care what Trump does. I just love the way he deals with these things. Like the press conference. In this press conference, Marco Rubio hands him a note that's meant to be like, you know, you need to ask that guy you know, you need to ask this guy about oil or whatever. And he just reads it out and it's like, that was meant to be a hint. From Rubio. And Trump just laughs off and he's like, yeah, whatever, I don't care. You see, Rubio also a bit laughed like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Rubio's obviously,
I'm genuinely impressed with Rubio. He's doing a great job. Not bad. He has grown in my estimation. Very much. He's the dark horse of the administration. Like, I didn't think, you know, Rubio would come out as hard-line, And he's.
He's deliberately incited in a bunch of things that actually he didn't have to but are good to do, you know, like preventing various leftists from going to America saying get bent.
You know no, we don't like you and we're making this note.
It's like you don't have to do that, but good for you for doing it.
If you'd asked me 18 months ago, two years ago, would I be happy with the president Rubio?
I would have said no, why would I?
But right now i'd be like i'll take it, it's not too bad.
Yeah, I mean, I like Vance, just fine, don't get me wrong.
But Rubio has been, and what I like about it as well, he's.
He just comes out and just straightforwardly says no, this is why i'm doing it, this is the reason it's like, okay I, I. That's not a bad reason.
You know, I feel like Trump has very much um, enabled him to yeah, to become himself a bit more.
I don't know if that's really just.
You know, Trump gives him carte blanche to, to say how to say it as it is.
Yeah, get it done.
And he's he's, he's living up to that, it seems to me.
So everyone wants a lieutenant like Rubio.
I'll tell you.
Oh yeah yeah, it's exactly the kind of lieutenant you are, so yeah.
just go and deal with those. Yes, sir, you know. Let's go to the next one. I came across this headline and a thought occurred to me. Europe has been trying to establish itself as a rival bloc to the USA since at least the 1990s. They show a good amount of disrespect to the USA and most don't pay their NATO contributions. How does the USA ensure appropriate defence of a strategically important territory that belongs to an ally? Asking Denmark to invest more in defence before being rebuked citing sovereignty over the territory. But provoking them? We're going to put boots on the ground in Greenland. No! Never thee! I might be wrong,
but allies sending troops to defend their own territory seems like it's in the USA's interests and maybe that's the plan all along. You know what? I can't rule it out. Yeah? Fair take there from Scotty. I can't help but think that Trump genuinely wants Greenland, though. Again, I'm prepared to absolutely take him at his word, that he really, really does think, believe, that if he doesn't take it, if the United States doesn't formally take it and exit, own it, that China or Russia will. I mean,
on the face of it, that seems far-fetched and unlikely, but perhaps not. And the point is that he really thinks that. And I think he does. And the thing is, he's got this kind of habit of kind of lucking into success as well. Like, lucking into things kind of going his way. And so like, as Scotty's pointing out, it's like, okay, he might have wanted Greenland. Let's say he doesn't get it. But now the EU's like, oh, we've got to station troops all over here. So he's kind of got the thing that he wanted anyway,
just by being a bit belligerent about it. So it is kind of funny. 40 chess. Not 4D chess. I know. Like, with this Venezuela thing, I can't help but feel that Trump's going to win. Everyone's like, oh, he could go completely south like Iraq. It's like, yeah, maybe. But there's something about it that just feels like Trump's going to get what he wants, and it'll probably work out for the best. My feeling on that, just real quick to say, is that Venezuelan society, civil society,
is nothing like Iraqi. It's not like a secretarian nightmare waiting to happen. That's not what Venezuela is. This is what I mean. It's like, the thing is, the way he did it as well is, okay, oh,
you kidnapped the president. Yeah, but you're all fine. You're all fine. It's kind of just a dunk on Maduro. It's like, yeah, yeah, we just kidnapped the president and 80 of his Cuban guards died or something. You don't care about those. That's not your friends or family. They were his Praetorian communist guard. And so no significant damage is done. There's no trail of blood and mountains of bodies. It's just like, You know, you just kidnap the dictator and get on with your lives.
You know, it's kind of funny it is.
It is a chad move in the context of history.
Yeah, it's a pretty chad move yeah yeah, but it's also like it's kind it's left them just kind of headless chickens like, oh god, what do we do now?
Yeah you exactly, what do you do now?
Who knows?
Just, you know like we'll run it.
Don't worry about it.
Exactly on the old one option on the table is Donald Trump, right?
Oh no no, we need to get this sorted because already, already that, oh yeah, we're willing to work with the Trump administration.
So of course you are, because they just kidnapped your dictator.
Like, what are your options here?
You haven't got many options right yeah, and so I I can't help but feel that Trump is just going to kind of look into success with Venezuela now, don't get me wrong.
throw this in my face if it turns into a massive bloodbath. I'm happy to concede that I could completely be wrong on this. But I've just got this feeling in my gut. Anyway, Russian says, would you rather come across a bear or an ice agent in front of your car? Well, I mean, I'm not going to drive into the ice agent. Right, yeah. What's going on, bro? An ice agent, who I'd be perfectly polite to. There's a Somali over there. Are you missing one? Look,
he's getting away! What are you wasting your time with me for? Bears seem terrifying to me. Yeah, they are, yeah. A big bear, anyway. Like, even just curling up and trying to play dead, or trying to fight back with a big cat or anything. No, no, If it decides it wants to rip you limb from limb, it's gonna do that.
I've heard that's.
That's a terrifying monster.
I've read such a horrible story about bear attacks as well.
It just holds you down, start eating you alive and stuff like, yeah, they're so much stronger than you, oh god, it's horrific.
Yeah uh, anyway.
Maria says, uh, the plight that liberal women face is one of their making and sadly, a.
The simple truth is that one cannot save a person who insists on running into a burning building, nor should one try to, and that's honestly the truth of it, isn't it?
I mean like look, you know, they desperately want to be doing something and it's like, sorry, you know, there actually isn't a place for you dealing with the smiley immigrants.
Like, go pick up your kids from school, That's what you should be doing.
Yeah, Make sure that your neighbour hasn't run out of petrol or gas, or Fair point.
says they're focusing so much on the crazy car lady in order to cover up the fraud uh well yeah uh the more time that is spent discuss the justified shooting of someone trying to run over an ice agent means that the somalis and the democrats have more time to destroy evidence while the public is distracted a fair point you know don't know if that's definitely the case but i wouldn't be surprised it may well be yeah it makes sense doesn't it i mean they're probably just glad for the the cover frankly even if it wasn't on purpose but uh but it's it's just one of those things where it's like i i'm not even
I don't want to get into the like left or right, who did what of it, because it's just like, look, both sides have their own different realities at this point.
So yeah, Derrick says uh, if it, if anything, is like the Handmaid's Tale, it's the women who served as surrogates for degenerate couples.
Well, I mean, like none of it's the Handmaid's Tale, because the Handmaid's Tale was so, for I watched the series.
I never watched it.
So basically uh, most women in the world are no longer fertile, and so the circle of fertile women has shrunk to a very small number of women, and so it's a really weird dystopia though, because if all women, or almost all women, became infertile, why would the rich, powerful men marry the infertile women they would marry?
Suddenly, being fertile would put you at the very top hierarchy rank of the hierarchy of society right, you'd be the most important women in the world.
Rank of the hierarchy of society right, you'd be the most important women in the world.
Instead, they're treated as sex slaves for these rich couples who can't have babies.
Instead, they're treated as sex slaves for these rich couples who can't have babies.
So the guy has sex with her against their will and she then bears his child.
Right, but it's like, but why?
Why is that woman who's infertile a high status woman?
She wouldn't be.
She'd be like, okay, you're just an infertile woman like millions of others, but the few women who are fertile, they'd be the ones who marry the rich billionaires.
Right, so it doesn't.
It does make sense as a premise, but you're thinking about it in like real terms, not the how would society actually be?
Who's the woman who wrote it?
I can't remember her name, Margaret Atwood.
Yeah, so that doesn't serve her narrative.
To write a story like that does it.
Her narrative is that i'm being held down and forcibly impregnated.
It's like okay, but that's not what would happen.
If that you know.
She's really insufferable.
Have you ever seen her in an interview?
Yeah, she's unbelievably woke.
Yeah insufferable, truly.
Yeah, and she thinks for herself like a fucking sorry.
She thinks for herself like a prophet as well.
Oh yeah yeah, like she's got all the answers.
She's figured out the world.
Yeah, and this is definitely gonna happen.
It's definitely gonna happen that you're gonna be held down, impregnated against you.
What's that?
That's not happening, bro.
You're a mad old witch yeah yeah, yeah.
You've lost your mind somewhere along the line and this is starting to feel like a fancy for you.
Well uh, anyway.
St. Benny says, I was outside the Supreme Court when Roe was overturned. Post-menopausal women show up wearing handmaid's robes within the first few hours. It's like, yeah, oh no, it's a handmaid's tale because I can't have irresponsible sex and then murder my baby. It's like, okay. I mean, that's not what the handmaid's tale is, but I'll take it. Arizona Desert Rat says, They're thinking I'm not getting what I want when I want, therefore I'm oppressed. No, it's not. Nicola says, if you bring your children to a right, you need to be arrested for child endangerment. Well, obviously,
That's the thing.
Seems Fair and says reform will be crippled by Frage's insistence that major party leaders are not perceived as smarter than Nigel is.
Yeah, this is Nigel's problem.
Man is the fear of competent people around him.
It's like you've got to stop being worried about like the.
Remember when Rupert Lowe was like, uh, he essentially publicly disagreed with Nigel.
The first thing Nigel did I think it was TALK TV or something like that it was like he was trying to seize control of the party.
He's like, no, he just contradicted you in public.
He just contradicted you.
He can't seize control of the party like that can't happen.
But uh, he uh unbelievably afraid of that w douchebag.
Next headline, Tony Blur joins Reform.
Yeah, I mean.
it's inevitable. Omar says, Crypto bros not understanding supply or demand for the attention economy doesn't bode well for their endeavours in the economy. It's like, yeah. You'd think they would. Yeah. You'd think they would. But the thing is, like, again, it is at least very interesting that we got to find out how Twitter's algorithm works, what the governing philosophy of Twitter was. So if you want to succeed at Twitter,
be interesting. Literally that. Be interesting. I've said this, right, from the very beginning. Don't waste people's time. If you want to be a content creator, don't waste my time. You know? Right. Just that's the only thing. Don't waste my time. And White Rider says they also think this cannot be true. Because Elon gets loads of reach replying wow to things. As if there's not a difference with him there being the owner. Also,
he's the most followed man on Earth. Yeah. He has something like 250 million Twitter followers. Like 239 million or something like that. He can afford to tweet wow and lots of people will see it because of the size of his account. If you've got 2,000 followers, Don't waste your reach going gm gm, gm.
Yeah, what are you doing?
Yeah, there's a certain point in all sorts of things, not just twitter, most things in life, most things, in fact, in the cosmos.
After a certain point, you can't help but keep winning.
Yes, scale is yeah, and so that applies to Elon's personal twitter account.
Yes very, of course it does.
Again, it's probably the largest social media account in existence.
It's probably got the biggest voice of any human ever to have lived.
Yes right, no human has ever been as scrutinized in that way, and i'm not just trying to be sycophantic for the, i'm thinking that's a statement of fact.
Yes right like, think of your average emperor, Roman Emperor or Chinese emperor.
Okay, they might have, like you know, 500 million uh, people in the empire or whatever, but how many people actually see the emperor on a daily basis?
A couple of thousand at most.
You know, Elon Musk has 200 plus million looking at everything he says like, whenever he has a thought, he's like, wow, you know, 200 million people see it's like Jesus Christ man.
That is a scale to which we were not previously prepared to deal.
Yeah, there's no precedent for that, is there? No. History. It's mad. History. No one thought this would be the case. Anyway, we are out of time. I was just going over because it was interesting stuff. Anyway, thanks for joining us, folks. Get your copy of Islander now. It is brilliant. My article is particularly good,