Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Road Seaters, episode 1325 for Monday, the 5th of January, 2026.
I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Stelios.
Harry, happy new year.
Yes, happy new year.
And returning guest, our very own common sense crusader, Calvin Robinson.
Good to see you again, sir.
Merry Christmas.
And Merry Christmas.
A belated Merry Christmas today.
It's the 12th day of Christmas today.
We're still celebrating.
12th night, isn't it?
It is.
Yeah.
Wonderful.
Excellent.
Well, today, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be talking all about the capture of Maduro.
We're then going to be talking about the seething and crying of the Eurocrats over in Brussels because censorship seems to have caught up with them.
And then Harry is going to go to war on the halls in the final segment.
Someone has to.
You make that sound almost dirty, Luca.
So I'm doing some anti-region.
Anti-whore action.
Anti-whore action.
Also, a PSA, also righteous condemnation and calls for people being arrested.
Based.
Yes.
I know you're up to the task.
So, and also just to announce as well that today was the first morning where you could tune into Breakfast with Bo, our new breakfast show with the Lotus Eaters by your very own history bro, Bo Dade, for an hour between 8 p.m.
Sorry, 8 a.m. and 9 a.m.
If you're in a it's it's 8 p.m. somewhere in the world when Bo is broadcasting this.
So yeah, between 8 a.m. and 9 British time, the correct time.
And you can tune in from it Monday to Friday and listen to Bo's takes on the daily news.
And it was very good this morning.
And so I'm sure Bo will be glad to see you there.
All right then.
Stelios, tell us about Venezuela.
So something did happen in Venezuela and we are going to talk about it.
And we have done segments before.
We did segments about the elections in Venezuela and how Maduro lost them and then the chaos that followed.
So if you want to check what we have covered about Venezuela, check these two videos and we have many more.
Right.
So Joe Biden warned people about Trump.
In June 2020, he said, Trump talks tough on Venezuela, but admires thugs and dictators like Nicolas Maduro.
Sorry, it's the Biden effect.
As president, I will stand with the Venezuelan people and for democracy.
So he warned this aged well.
Well, right?
Okay, and we had also John Mearsheimer saying how a particular kind of operation is impossible in Venezuela.
Let's hear him.
And I think that, you know, you can talk about maybe sending in special forces teams that can decapitate the regime or using air power or naval power to coerce Venezuela.
But when you look carefully at these options, they don't spell success either.
First of all, Maduro is going to be very hard to get at.
He knows you're coming after him.
And he's going to do everything he can to hide.
Well, he did, but this didn't exactly turn out as John Mearsheimer said.
And we had Operation Absolute resolved.
And it was precisely what John Mearsheimer said was impossible to happen.
And it did happen.
And let me tell you a bit more about this.
So what's the case is that in 2025, we have a sort of context building up.
We have Trump designating Venezuelan gangs like Trendi Aragua and Cartel of the Sons as foreign terrorist organizations.
We had naval blockades, and especially starting in August 2025, where the US increased its naval presence in the Caribbean, eventually seizing sanctions and conducting strikes on alleged drug-smuggling vessels.
And then we also had some failed diplomacy because in late 2025, Maduro rejected an alleged US offer to be exiled in Turkey, and that led to a sort of escalation in military posture.
Right, so a few days ago, three days, no, two days ago, last Saturday, we had the operation that lasted for about two and a half hours, and it started with a few airstrikes.
About 150 aircraft conducted precision airstrikes across northern Venezuela, and then we had the Delta Force and FBI hostage rescue team members raiding Maduro's compound in Caracas.
And they sort of kidnapped him or fetched him or however you want to call it in legalistic fashions.
But they took him from one place, they took him to another place.
Snatch is a good word for it.
In New York, where he is going to be tried today.
And we all know the outcome of this.
It's not particularly hard to fathom.
Yeah.
He's going to be seen as an anti-communist dictator.
I'm willing to.
A communist dictator.
Yeah, a communist dictator.
Thank you, Harry.
It would be very shocking if that was the decision that they came to.
Well, they turned up.
Crime change communism.
Right, exactly.
We try you.
But isn't that what they're trying him on?
Is it illegal in America to be a communist dictator abroad?
I don't think that necessarily this is what they're going to try him on.
They're going to say that he is going to be a negative influence for U.S. interests.
Specifically, they're going to talk about drugs.
Specifically, I believe that he is being tried.
Is it on gun running charges?
On gun charges, and which strange because they don't apply in Venezuela.
I think it's American laws.
I think he's also being obviously charged with drug running.
Venezuela, as far as I'm aware, is not a major drug manufacturing country.
It's been used as a go-between smuggling zone for countries like Colombia.
Well, I'll get to Jay Devance's post where he talks about this.
We'll see what Jay Devance has to say about it.
At the moment, things are really, really new.
We will see what happens.
But personally, I'm happy to see a communist dictator lose power.
So I'm very happy about this.
We will see about what happened and what is going to happen, but that's another discussion.
Right, so he is going to be indicted in, I think, in the southern district of New York.
I think Romo has it that one of the allegations is driving under influence.
Are you serious?
No.
Okay.
You got a good depth.
Right.
And there is a sort of chaos in discourse with several sides saying many things.
But let's first say what Trump has said.
He says that he is putting forward the Don Rowe doctrine, which is an upgrade from the Monroe doctrine.
And he says that the U.S. dominance in the Western Hemisphere is unquestionable and it will no longer be questioned, as he said.
One thing that personally I'm not particularly psyched about.
I think that this is this, I didn't expect it that much, and I think that is a bit he's wrong in saying that.
He says that Maria Corina Machado is not good as a leader and that she lacks support in the country.
I don't think that that's the case.
She won overwhelmingly in elections against Maduro.
This is one of the reasons why Maduro was against her.
So yeah, we'll see what happens in the future about it.
He may just still be bitter that he didn't get that Nobel Peace Prize.
Maybe she did, and he is the president of war and peace simultaneously.
Like Tolstoy level of right, okay.
And let's see here.
So there are some people cheering, there are other people who aren't.
And I think Venezuelans are cheering.
The few Venezuelans I know are incredibly happy.
All of them have told me that anything good you hear leftists saying about the regime in Venezuela is shameful propaganda and they're ecstatic at the moment.
And there are lots of videos with Venezuelans being very happy about it.
Also Venezuelan diaspora.
And obviously there are people who are siding against Maduro and they're incredibly happy.
But there are also leftists who are siding with Maduro because the leftists.
And the leftists always are in favor of so-called leftist revolutions against the people because the people don't know their true interests.
People who call themselves socialists allegedly know better their interests for them, according to the leftist mindset.
Here, Venezuelan is going viral for calling out deranged leftists defending Maduro, saying, ISO friends eat dogs to survive.
I don't understand how they defend this dictator.
Well, they defend him because they're leftists.
But one thing to notice is that Venezuela had a sort of luck in the first phase, in the Chavez phase of the Bolivarian Revolution, and completely lost luck after Chavez died.
And that was known because they're very rich in oil reserves and oil will feature again in this discussion.
I think it's important to point out that the reason that America will have gone in and done this decapitation, which seems to be aided on the inside by Venezuelans as well, because there was...
No doubt about that.
Obviously, you can't just go in.
Yeah, Venezuelans don't want Maduro.
Yeah.
Yeah, but also within the government as well, because you can't just go in, have no casualties on your side, kidnap the president of a country and have no casualties unless you've got a lot of help on the street.
What are they hiding from us, Harry?
I mean, it's just obvious.
That's just how these things go.
But America will not have done this just because they care so deeply about the plight of poor, suffering Venezuelans.
They have their own geopolitical interests.
This is what a Venezuelan man says here.
Those who say that the US is only interested in our oil, I ask you, what do you think the Russians and Chinese wanted here?
The recipe for Arapas.
So it's a bit known that oil is a huge part of it.
I mean, maybe they do.
Maybe China was looking to diversify its menus.
No idea.
Make them stronger.
No idea.
No idea.
Right.
So what I was going to say before is that they were very lucky when the price of Venezuelan oil was very high.
And that was for the Chavez phase.
But then Chavez died and everyone sort of knew that the person who comes afterward is going to have a tough time because the price of Venezuelan oil fell and they had the major problem with Dutch disease.
The Bolivarian Revolution was an unsound, economically, regime, as far as, you know, as well as unsound and many other reasons.
But they structured all their economy around oil and sort of nationalized and subsidized heavily with status, every other sector.
So now that when the price of Venezuelan oil fell, everything else went south.
And because it went south, there were millions of Venezuelans who fled.
There was a huge migration crisis called sometimes a humanitarian crisis.
I don't think that's far-fetched.
They say that around seven or seven plus million Venezuelans out of a total of around 27 left the country.
So that's a huge.
And a lot of them went to the US.
A lot of them went to the US.
So that's a huge, it's huge numbers, even for the US.
Right.
So also, let me just say here, a Trump critic, a major Trump critic, Gary Kasparov, says two days ago, said, Tomorrow will be an important day in the days after that, but today the dictators are afraid the Marxists and appeasers are crying and Venezuelans are celebrating the removal of a brutal despot.
I refuse to complain about a day like that.
May Venezuela be free.
Personally, I like that statement.
It's just, yeah, I mean, we can say we can be happy about Venezuela and about Maduro falling, and then we can keep the other side and criticism of the other side for another day.
But that's just me.
Magnanimous, yeah.
Right, so Millais also happy.
He says that freedom advances.
Also, the viva la liberta carajo.
He says also the world respects America there.
Here we have Bernie Sanders, who was very pro-Maduro.
If you listen to him, he says that he says some interesting things.
Listen.
It's also fair to point out that when we were in Moscow, for example, I think most of the people here also were extremely impressed by their public transportation system.
The stations themselves were absolutely beautiful, including many works of art, chandeliers that were beautiful.
It was a very, very effective system.
Also, I was impressed by the youth programs that they have, their palaces of culture for the young people, a whole variety of programs for young people.
You get an idea.
You know that Bernie Saunders has been pro-Maduro.
He's sort of lately trying to water it down, but this is the sort of rhetoric that he had for decades.
And this shows yet again how socialists are just virtue signaling for socialists around the earth.
And I don't think that Bernie Saunders has done the math or he has done his homework with respect to Venezuela and economics and socialism in Venezuela.
And I don't think he has done his homework.
Now he's talking about international law.
He says Trump violated international law and etc.
And this, I think, shows one of the grievances that many people have with rhetoric that appeals frequently to international law is that, right, it's good to have good rules, but good rules are good to the extent that they're being honored and enforced.
To the extent that people who appeal to human rights or international laws in order to make excuses for brutal dictators and for people who violate the spirit of these laws routinely, they're not good.
It's just hypocrisy.
And I'm willing to bet that people, especially leftists who are saying that Trump right now violated international law, would not say it had Trump done so in the case of Putin.
They would just not say it.
They would say Trump was correct.
That's just me again.
So the left are hypocrites, is what you're saying.
yes controversial take well no it's it's just an addition of how this hypocrisy manifests in the my take with all of this sort of stuff the international rules-based order international law is uh mainly enforced and made up ad hoc frankly depending on it like like all laws it depends on who enforces it and who is willing to enforce it in what way against who.
And frankly, as America is the global superpower, still, obviously, it's got much more competition with Russia and China, which is partially why they went in and wanted to have more decisive action in Venezuela so they could expand their area of influence over there.
They've got more competition, but still they're the prevailing superpower, which means that ultimately they get to decide what international law means.
Which is true, and I'm not a fan of international law either.
However, it's American law that is the case, is the problem here.
Did Trump have the agreement of Congress to go and abduct a foreign leader and have a military strike on foreign land?
Did he have the was it legal on American terms?
Never mind it.
Forget international law.
Was what he did legal by his own legal system?
Well, that's an interesting debate here that I'm sure we're going to have in the future because it also routinely features in later discourse, especially with the drone strikes on drug smuggling boats.
You could argue that even there he didn't have, in some cases, congressional support.
Right.
Well, because he was.
But some people who don't cheer now were cheering with the strikes against the boats.
But one thing to say here is that I think that to a degree, whenever you have the president of the US is also the chief of the military.
And whenever we're talking about military context, there is always a degree of arbitrariness.
And you need military leaders to be able to act fast if they think that their interests of their country are being somehow violated or challenged.
But yet, of course, I will say this, there is a massive discussion there.
I'm sure.
Right, because you've got to be fast, but you can't act alone.
That's the difference there.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, on the other hand, for instance, I don't know, I'm going to hesitate, I guess here, but I think that, for instance, when it came to things like the Cuban Missile Crisis, to be honest, I don't think that this was the same level of urgency.
Let me be very clear about this.
But it is conceivable to say that in many cases, you do want a president to be able to act fast.
And in some cases, there is simply no time for congressional debate.
But whether this applies in this case or not, and whether there can be a case that will be backed against Maduro in the trial or not, we will see.
Well, I mean, the other thing is just like, even if it is against the law in America, will Congress do anything about it?
As far as I can tell with the past year of American politics, domestically, Trump still faces a lot of opposition.
But in terms of foreign policy, America seems, or at least Congress, the Senate, outside of some like Ilan Omar and such, America seems much more united on foreign policy from what I can tell and from what I've seen over the past year or so.
So whether or not they would say that it was legal to do so, do Congress agree or not with the action?
Will they do anything about it?
So I'm not taking a stance on this, but just to point out that I think there is a divide because much of the MAGA movement supported Trump as the peace president, the guy who would not have any foreign interventions.
And now we're seeing there's a split down the middle of people saying, well, it's clearly good because he's a communist dictator.
That's always a good thing to destroy.
But on the other hand, he said he wouldn't.
He's gone into Iran.
He's gone into Venezuela.
Where next?
And people just want him to focus on America first.
And you could argue this is America first, but at the same time, it is also foreign intervention.
So people are, I think it's a bit more muddied than it seems.
I suppose, though, what it is, is a precision strike, isn't it?
It's getting involved in foreign affairs, but without the protracted decades long.
Although, no, because he's saying they're now going to run Venezuelan oil.
So there is a vested interest.
I think everyone knows this.
Well, everyone knows BlackRock, Exxon, all these big companies benefit.
How does the American citizen benefit?
Well, I mean, you may argue greater oil security, potentially lower oil prices, because Trump has been saying for a while that he wants to help secure the economy, bring down gas prices and such.
Some are also saying, this is Ryan Dawson.
I saw people sharing this take that he had about is it could be a preemptive measure before greater action is taken in Iran after the strikes last year, because if they attack Iran, Iran's going to start to close off a lot of oil access that they have coming in from the Middle East, so this is a way to secure oil reserves in the case of further action within Iran.
This this is what part of it and you could also say that if Venezuela, if they strike, a win-win deal in some respects and, to be very to be fair, when you have a country like Maduro's Venezuela, it's hard to not create something better for Venezuelans, so it will be a win-win.
Obviously, the question of degree is important and I'd be happy if Venezuelans win to a great extent just to share on that, instead of being a 99-10 just to share on that.
The few Venezuelans that have following me have been in my DMs saying this is, this is really good for us.
This is great for us, similar to what you're hearing.
So I still pray for the Venezuelans.
That's great.
Let's see what.
What goes on.
But everyone knows no Venezuelans.
Everybody on Twitter all of a sudden is coming out and saying that you've all got so many Venezuelans.
I've never.
I've never met a single Venezuelan person in my life.
And all of a sudden, everybody on Twitter has loads of no no no, specifically personal Venezuelan friends.
Where do you all, where do you all meet?
I don't have any Venezuelan friends.
So I'll give you what Marco Rubio says about the those who are worried that this is going to be an Iraq number two.
He says he.
He says the experts are clown, Venezuela looks nothing like countries in the Middle East, and he's saying basically, that Venezuela is almost very united against Maduro and they sort of have a homogeneous culture and they lack the the number of groups that exist in other countries in the, the Middle East, to continue warfare.
And then, you know, make ceasefire as being something unheard of.
So he says people need to stop ascribing apples to oranges.
I'll, we'll see what happens.
Personally, I'm optimistic, but I want to be reserved.
I mean this, this is all just talk before we actually see any anything going forward.
Of course, Rubio is gonna say that.
He's gonna say yeah, this is a success, a successful operation that will just lead to more and more successes.
We will see.
Yeah, now we have JD Vance's claim.
I'll just tell you what he says.
You see a lot of claims that Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs, because most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere.
I want to address this first.
Fentanyl isn't the only drug in the world and there is still fentanyl coming from Venezuela, or at least there was.
Second, cocaine, which is the main drug trafficked out of Venezuela, is a profit center for all of the Latin America cartels.
If you cut out the money from cocaine or even reduce it, you substantially weaken the cartel overall.
Cocaine is bad too.
I don't know why he felt the need to include that, to be honest.
Drugs are bad, okay?
Drugs are bad.
Don't do them.
Third, yes, a lot of fentanyl is coming out of Mexico.
That continues to be a focus of our policy in Mexico and is a reason why President Trump shut the border on day one.
Fourth, I see a lot of criticism about oil.
About 20 years, Venezuela expropriated American oil property and until recently used that stolen property to get rich and fund their narco-terrorist activities.
I understand the anxiety over the use of military force, but are we just supposed to allow communists to steal our stuff in our hemisphere and do nothing?
Great powers don't act like that.
I think for me, a lot of the stuff to do with the drugs angle on it would feel a lot stronger if Donald Trump as head of the administration just last month hadn't given a personal executive pardon to Hernandez, the former president of Honduras, who was involved directly in the ferrying of drugs from Honduras to America.
So I do think a lot of the moral posturing comes across a lot weaker after he has done that, purely because that president, Hernandez, was a very pro-Trump, Trump-aligned, America-aligned president in comparison to what Honduras has at the moment.
So I understand the posturing.
It's just a lot weaker for me when it seems much more clearly about securing security and oil reserves.
I don't think in the Western Hemisphere.
I don't think Trump has made so much a name out of moral posturing.
I think he has made the name much more out of a sort of, let's say, negotiator who is very realpolitik negotiator.
And in this case, he could say Colombia and Kiev.
It's very hard to not have a moral dimension in your rhetoric.
It's virtually impossible, especially if you're a politician.
But it could be the case that something has gone behind the scenes and we don't know what was exchanged in exchange for that pardon.
Now, and also for majority.
And also, I mean, I get it.
People will say, well, what about the Mexican cartels?
And it is a valid concern.
We'll see, because Trump has still about three years ago, two years and ten months.
Not a go.
I mean, we'll see what happens.
In those years, if you really want to cut off a lot of the problems with drugs in the U.S., you're going to need to have massive domestic operations to cut off all of the cartel contacts that are within the U.S. and just deport millions and millions of illegals who are already in the country.
I understand that, like I said, there's domestic problems.
He's going to get a lot more pushback domestically than he has on foreign policy over the past year.
But ultimately, if you want to solve a lot of these problems, that is the action that you need to take.
Well, he seems willing to take action.
Or at least much more than previous presidents, which is something that makes one a bit optimistic on the one hand, but also just curious to see what happens.
This isn't exactly Chudja territory.
You know, the nothing ever happens theme.
Oh, no, no, of course.
So Trump mocks Putin's three-day special military operation, calling the Russian army primitive.
There is sort of, you know, jabbing at each other.
He says, now let's go to the memes.
Let's have some fun.
I am conscious a bit of time, so we'll speed up a bit.
You always got to remind me of the freaks.
Here we have a meme.
Gunther Eagleman says here, thank God this is over.
I'll give them that.
Yeah, we have here what a difference a presidency makes.
Right?
And last move here: Sneeko talks about World War III again.
I don't think World War III is going to happen over Maduro.
That's another controversial take of mine.
Right.
So here we have the other meme.
It's like Maduro on Joe Rogan.
Say, so there I was on the phone with my buddy when I heard unfortunate son playing from a distance.
It's a great song.
Stellios, I'll tell you the issue I have with this, and maybe you can clarify it for me.
And the thing I hate about neocons is that we must spread our democracy, right?
And the people who seem to be supporting this seem to be saying, yeah, communist dictator, I have nothing against dictatorships.
We can have very benevolent dictatorships, but communism is obviously evil.
But that's not, I mean, that's not a good enough reason.
The oil isn't a good enough reason.
Liberating another people isn't a good enough reason.
They're not our people, right?
And so I would almost prefer if it was more imperialistic and they just said, look, we are America.
This is part of the Americas.
We're taking Venezuela.
It's now part of our territory.
It's bam, done.
It's the hot it's the appeasing the liberal progressive sensibilities of well, we're not quite colonializing.
We're just liberating these people.
Then we're going to leave them and they'll get all the money and leave all the weapons or whatever we do like in Afghanistan.
It doesn't sit right now.
I mean, empires always tend to try and give themselves some kind of moral dimension.
I mean, even with the British Empire.
We admitted we were an empire.
Yeah, well, that's true.
Well, that's one of my many points of the absolute supremacy of the British Empire over the American Empire.
My main problem with the American Empire is not only the moral dressing that it gives itself, also that just comparatively, next to like the British or anything, from what I could see, they're just really bad at it.
Right.
Like they try, they tend to go in and try and make places really gay.
Like we spread Christianity, they spread democracy.
I have several things to respond to you in a you know, in a relaxed manner.
I think that's good discussion.
I don't think Trump has said anything about spreading democracy in Venezuela.
Maybe he has used language that is democracy adjacent, and I'd expect him to if he hasn't.
If he hasn't already, I expect him to do in the future.
He could say things like Maduro was illegitimate.
There is a notion of appeal to consent there.
But I don't think Trump has marketed what he has done here as a sort of spread of democracy.
On the other hand, I think it's definitely the case that Maduro wasn't a benevolent, let's say, dictator.
You can have someone yielding a tremendous amount of power and that power be checked and make good decisions.
That's a conceptual possibility.
And you could argue that historically it has happened.
But when it comes to the neocons and the thing, it seems to me that there is a divide being presented to us.
It's like either hardcore isolationism, zero geopolitical influence, just let the world do whatever it happens, or George Bush Jr. type of military involvement and then a continuation of it for decades.
It seems to me that Trump is trying to strike a middle ground there with precision strike.
That's a fair point because he's not an ideologue.
He's pragmatic.
More like a Jacksonian.
And there's the other bit is that isolationism tends to he's more realistic than that because he may have.
You can argue that in his rhetoric pre-election, he did have isolationist aspects.
That's beyond doubt.
More so 2016 than 2024.
He absolutely did have isolationist dimensions in his rhetoric.
But then there's the other bit is that when you are in a geopolitical setting, it's the same thing as in a political setting in a domestic one.
Say in Pericles that you may not care about politics, but politics will care about you.
The same applies for geopolitics.
So the ultra-isolationist temperament neglects the fact that the others, geopolitical rivals, are restless.
They're not going to sleep.
If you sleep, they're not going to sleep.
They're trying to take advantage of you sleeping.
So that's, you know, but that's the sort of way one could view it.
Here we have another meme.
I'll just speed up with the memes because I'm mindful of time.
Say here, El Nuevo Presidente de Venezuela.
It's funny.
My Caracas.
My Dune.
That's wrong.
That's still the most heartbreaking.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Then Maduro is going to bite his teeth.
I didn't want to gas there.
I didn't watch the remade Dunes.
You have to.
I'm only familiar with the Lynch one.
Carry.
I'm going to instigate a coup on your house and force you to watch Dune.
Oh, right.
And then I'll leave.
Okay.
It's to spread democracy.
The Greeks are going to kick me.
They're going to do a decapitation strike on my house.
Right, okay.
It says here, get Chavez.
I'm in Maduro.
F it.
Get Chavez too.
That's good.
Here, I think Maduro was singing Imagine and says, Imagine no possession.
It's easy if you try.
It says, Done, thanks for the oil.
Wait.
Here, Call of Duty, Modern Warfare.
Love it.
Here, that's about the leftists because they've really lost it.
And it has Joker says, Mother was an anti-fascist and a liptard.
One night she turns on the news, drunker than usual.
America deposed an oppressive fascist dictator.
She doesn't like that.
Not one bit.
Right.
And here I'm going to say one thing that I find here.
We have some leftists screaming free Maduro.
Yeah, whatever.
And here is where I'm going to say something that I think is, you know, in a bit.
They say, Has anyone checked on Medvedev?
He hasn't made a single nuclear threat all day.
Come on, post something.
He's the one who, you know, he's the bad cop.
Putin is presenting himself as the good cup.
Medvedev is always, we're going to nuke you.
You know, it's just nuq you, nuke you.
Some people only have one trick.
Yeah.
Here, and here I am going to be a bit critical of some people in the podcast.
They say, here, America does something cool and uses the military for the greater good as average American podcaster.
That's a bit funny.
It's just, let's have some fun.
And here, I'm trolling a bit, Tucker, because he was playing the socially conservative card on Maduro.
He was saying he's socially conservative and stuff.
And say, a moment of silence for Maduro's socially conservative communist dictatorship.
I didn't expect it to go that well, to be honest.
I expected a pylon, but it went well.
Times change, but it's fun.
Also, on that subject, right, my main worry is if they do actually go in with a proper full-on occupation, which is still to be seen.
It's worth pointing out so far, there were a few strikes and Maduro was kidnapped.
Right?
The rest of the government, as far as we can tell, is still in place.
The vice president has stepped up and made a few comments about all of this.
We'll see if they actually end up occupying and where this goes.
Do they actually control the country?
Are you saying that the transition in Venezuela is something relating to gender?
Maybe, maybe.
Well, If they do end up somehow getting a full-on occupation force, by the end of the year, will Venezuela have legalized gay marriage, legalized abortion,
gender tolerance classes and other such things that are typical of American occupation, as Callum saw when he went to Afghanistan in the aftermath of them kicking the Americans out and just went and found in that bin the enormous pile of gender tolerance lesson binders they were being put through.
And that would have been partially under Trump's first term.
If this happens, it would be a shame.
If this happens, it would be a shame.
But I want to say that these are things that did happen in the West, and there are still mechanisms of fighting back.
And there have been, like with 47, he has moved against wokeness.
So I think that even if that were the case, I think it's better than, which would be a shame.
I'm not saying I'm for this, but even if that were the case, it's a really low bar.
It's honestly, when we're talking about Maduro's Venezuela, it's one of the lowest bars imaginable to improve it somehow.
Well, yeah, obviously they can improve the economics situation, but I just worry that along with that, they'll also bring in all of the spiritual.
There isn't perfection in this world.
If lots of the things you're saying happen, it will be a shame.
And the woman coming into power is a Zionist, is she not?
I don't know.
I think the opposition are.
I don't think the president is, but the opposition is.
I really don't know.
I really don't know.
They say here, Marco Rubio's presidential odds jump up a bit.
And they have this meme here in Arabia.
That's funny.
And anyway, we have a really funny 180s.
I think Morgan J. Freeman says Maduro will fall.
Venezuela will be free two years ago.
And now it says, if you want New York governor Kathy Hochul to immediately return Maduro and his wife to Venezuela like this.
And also, this guy says, this is a post by Christian Hayens.
He says, have you even said thank you once?
And he is showing another 180 of that account where he said the world cannot stand by and let Maduro steal the election in Venezuela.
And now it says Trump's a war criminal.
Trump's a war criminal.
Right.
So we are going to see.
But I think that if we isolate all the other things, I think it's a good day for Venezuela if because Maduro fell.
I hope the next thing is better.
It's a really low bar, but I think we are going back to what we were saying before with Calvin.
It's an issue of degrees.
It's a low bar.
It will be a win-win, but it's good if it isn't just a 99%, 1% win-win.
It's good if it resembles close to a 50-50.
All right.
Do you want to go through the remote round?
Oh, I'll just take that mouse.
If you don't need to rush, you can overrun a bit.
I'm going to go after this, so don't worry.
Woo-hoo!
Oh, yeah, sure.
Okay.
Four-hour podcast, boys.
We're here till six.
Yeah, that steak bake.
Hiroshiban says, good job on Maduro.
Do Zelensky next.
Well, I mean, there is an air of unpredictability to the world now, isn't there?
Anyone could get.
Zelensky's their guy.
I'm sorry, like, that whole February thing last year where it was shouted at Zelensky in the Oval Office, it's not come to anything.
Like, ultimately, he's the American puppet.
Yeah, sure, well.
Or at least the NATO puppet.
I'm not saying, you know, the comments saying Zelensky, I'm just saying that all world leaders are definitely up for grabs.
Like, you know, like the claws.
Ones who aren't aligned with America and ones who are basically incredibly weak regimes certainly are probably sweating.
I did put out the idea of America coming and getting Kiostama next.
Kiers liberate the Brits, right?
We need liberation.
There was a massive Twitter fight on this.
Well, I mean, Trump likes Kier.
Like, if America didn't like what goes on in England, what goes on in England wouldn't happen.
Opunk says, I have it from reliable sources that Maduro will join Mamdani's office as his economic advisor.
Flavius Magnus says, turns out that you're world superpower.
You can just do things and commies can only cope like tards.
$10 from Luke St. 91 says, good day all.
I hope you all had a good Christmas and New Year.
I thought Trump was sexist or something, but he did this because that lady who won the Nobel Peace Prize called for help.
This is true.
This is real news.
Thank you.
Ryan Hinnigan says, the translated from Spanish bangers on X have been the cherry on top.
Apparently, Latin America's memes about Maduro is that he has some anti-technology aura that causes all videos of him to be 144p.
I don't care if he didn't get boomer.
Such a boomer.
You don't even understand what 144p is keeping this guy.
I'm trying to rush through.
Low resolution.
That's the random name says, happy new year, Lotus Monchers.
This will be the year of the bigots, the year of remigration, the year of helicopters, and God willing, the year where Canada gets liberated.
Well, I mean, obviously, I only hope for good things for Canada.
And Opunk also says, Trump didn't kill the international rules-based liberal order.
He just dug up its corpse, peed on it, and put it back in the ground upside down.
Oh, yeah, just to be clear, I'm not claiming that Trump is the one that killed it.
I'm claiming that it was fake and gay the whole time.
All right, if we could move to the next set.
Thank you, Samson.
Sorry, I can just budge the back a little bit.
To the left again, buddy.
Hell.
All right.
Is that mess?
Oh, see, the new year and things are already falling.
I can't take it anymore.
He keeps asking me to move to the left.
All right.
Is that good?
Great.
Okay.
So, all right, ladies and gentlemen.
So I wanted to start this segment by talking about the fact that we're basically, as of this most recent new year, up to the 10th anniversary of the mass sexual assaults that happened in Cologne New Year's Eve in Germany back in 2015.
And I really wanted to bring this up, one, because it's worthy of remembrance, right?
And we should still to this day be absolutely furious about it, as well as the whole other slew of horrors and terrors that have been allowed to happen to our continent because of the ideological, you know, just sort of orthodoxy and the sheer arrogance of those in the EU and those who hate us and, you know, claim to speak for Europe,
but actually care nothing for European ethnic groups and their self-determination in their own lands.
They care absolutely nothing for the sense of freedom and liberty that Europeans have historically managed to enjoy and sort of cultivate, cultivated, created over many, many centuries.
And ultimately, this one event back in 2015 just serves as a microcosm of because like so many things that have happened here, this should have been endgame territory for any sort of political system.
If you create a system that allows this to happen, where 1,200 women are sexually assaulted by foreign men who've been let in against the consent of the German people or any other country where this similar sort of thing has taken place, then that should be the end of your regime, right?
Because that is not something that we want to live with.
It's not something that women want to live with.
And it's not something that our future children should have to live with either.
Or it would be a basic.
Sorry.
But we do.
This is the problem.
Yes, we do.
I mean, agree with you, but I think the problem there is you phrased it in a Wilsonian kind of self-determination phrase, and that's the problem itself.
We expect, this is why we lost the empire, right?
Because that phrase self-determination, we gave, we liberated, we gave freedom to peoples that were under our care as a British Empire.
And what you're doing by phrasing it in that way is saying we need to be given our freedom back by the European Union or by people above us.
When actually, true self-determination is taking back your land.
No one has a right to anything.
You know, people often say to me, oh, don't you think such a country has a right to it?
No, like we don't have a right to this country.
We own it through sheer will and determination and because we love it.
And if we loved our land enough, we'd fight for it.
Same with the Germans.
If they don't want this to happen, they've got to push back.
They've got to do something about it.
Oh, you don't, believe me, you don't need to persuade me on that for a time.
The basic duty of a state is to ensure public safety.
Yeah.
Yes, and what's more as well, this likes so many...
Not to make excuses for such behaviour, which they sort of did.
Yes.
And they do it implicitly every time that something of the sort happens and they react the way they do.
And what's more as well, the point that I wanted to make with this particular story as well, is that it's always the same pattern.
You get mass immigration, which no one asked for, no one wanted, and is literally killing our continent.
And then with that, you get the state cover-ups.
You get the message, the perception.
In here, in England, we get don't look back in anger.
In Germany, you get don't believe your lying eyes, right?
None of this is actually taking place.
These weren't foreign men at all.
Aren't people all the same, really?
All this crap, right?
We know the story.
But my point is that everything that allowed this to happen 10 years ago is still in place.
And we are caught in this paralyzing nightmare where we're forced every year to relive the same conversation, have the same talking points about the same curses that are just plaguing our countries.
And the people in power are still there.
Sure, one or two of them might have lost an election, but the apparatus of state and the EU and their project, a project which is more of this, continues basically unchecked.
There's very little, as you say, Calvin, that is being done right now to actually fight against this.
And so that is why when Trump and the Europe basically considering putting a ban on EU officials who censor Americans, now, don't get me wrong, again, they're not doing this for Europeans.
They're doing this because of American citizens and them getting caught up in a whole lot of European red tape, right, that has come across the continent.
They're putting their own citizens first.
And clearly, it would be good if Europe did the same thing, because then we wouldn't have horror stories like this going around.
But then, and I realize that this is obviously a story that took place over the Christmas period, but I thought that it was worth digging into, actually, in some detail, because we're seeing quite a sharp turn here.
Now, I grant you that the idea that some ex-European commissioner or just some paid political activist by one of the European states not being able to go to America is not, in the grand scheme of things,
greatest thing in the world but the fact that the united states is willing to actually put some sort of pressure on the on these people now that actually they um because was anyone in the eu who actually worked for brussels truly affected by something like this The women were, but no one would have lost their jobs over it.
Everything in Brussels just carried on as normal.
And now, with this new trajectory, we may at last finally see the screws come down, metaphorically, on these European officials.
So when Rubio says, for too long, ideologues in Europe have led organized efforts to coerce American platforms to punish American viewpoints they oppose, and the Trump administration will no longer tolerate these egregious acts of extraterritorial censorship.
Today, the State Department will take steps to bar leading figures of the global censorship industry complex from entering the United States.
We stand ready and willing to expand this list if others do not reverse course.
Excuse me.
And all of this to say as well is the fact that so far all of these people are not actual commissioners.
But I want this to be a gesture, right?
I want this to keep going further and further.
And I think that this should be ratcheted up until those at the very height of the Brussels political class start to feel it.
Because until now, there's been this constant we've just had to indulge this lie while Starmer goes to America and says, oh, we're very proud of our free speech.
We don't have it.
You know we don't have it.
Trump knows we don't have it.
And yet we just have to all continue with this fictional story, this fantasy.
And so you can see the Under Secretary of State going through a list of people that were on this first list of people who are now barred from going to the United States.
Some of those include social media campaigners from the United Kingdom.
And I'll just mention as well that they include Imran Ahmed, an ex-Labor advisor who now leads the Center for Countering Digital Hate.
You can only guess what sort of things they would believe constitute digital hate.
And Claire Milford, the CEO of the Global Disinformation Index.
And they were labelled as radical activists.
And they absolutely are, because these sorts of people spend all day trying to manage European perception to things like this.
That's all it comes down to.
This happens, and the problem is you for having a, you know, for caring about it.
That's where the problem lies, according to those in Brussels.
This all goes to Harry's previous point, though, doesn't it?
In that if Trump doesn't like something that Storm is doing, he would do something about it.
And here it's affecting Americans directly, so he's doing something about it.
Yes.
Because he's American first.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
And Luke, I want to add that you can see an extra layer of hypocrisy when it comes to the EU against that rhetoric, because the very rhetoric they claim to be far-right and extremist is the rhetoric they employ when it comes to the Poland and Belarus border.
When it comes to the border between Poland and Belarus, that's where Putin and Lukashenko are waging hybrid warfare by migration flows in the EU and they must be stopped because Putin.
And it's a complete case of complete cognitive dissonance.
It's as if the only border that the EU has is the border between Poland and Belarus.
The emperor is naked, that's what I'm saying.
Absolutely.
But this was the biggest name to come from this Thierry Breton, who was, as Sarah points out here, a mastermind of the Digital Services Act.
And this guy really was one of the worst of them.
There really was one of the worst of them.
And you have him here.
He was very proud of the EU intervention in Romania's elections to make sure that the Romanians voted the way that the European Union wanted to.
He also suggested that a similar tactic could certainly be tried in Germany because the AFD is getting a little bit too high in the polls for their life.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but whenever I...
Obviously, within Europe and Britain, we have major problems with these kinds of bureaucrats.
Okay, we have major problems with these kinds of bureaucrats meddling in international affairs within and outside of Europe, trying to stop people from voting the wrong way.
But at the same time, with all of this coming from America as well, I can't help but think back to Alex Karp, the head of Palantir, heavily connected to Peter Thiel, who is heavily himself connected to JD Vance, etc., saying that he and Palantir are the only reason that Europe is not controlled by the far right right now.
Like, we can't also ignore the fact that America also, outside of just what they post on Twitter and announce to the public, also meddle within domestic European politics to ensure that bureaucrats and politicians that they want in charge are also in those positions.
And I do assume, you know, you can criticize me for it.
I assume that is part of the theater of this.
Because ultimately, America needs a relatively strong Eastern Europe to push back against Russia, to stand as a bulwark against Russia.
The rest of Europe, America knows historically that if we all had our countries in order, we would have the potential to build great powerful empires that could present a rival bloc to America.
And so they don't want us strong domestically or internationally so that they don't have to worry about us.
They've got enough trouble with Russia.
They've got enough trouble with China.
They don't want a massively strong Europe to contend with as well.
So I do want to just point it out as well.
America does plenty of meddling.
Harry, to add to what you were saying, Thierry Breton was accused of interfering in the US elections when he started talking about a, I think, a podcast discussion between Trump and Elon Musk.
And he was then fired from his position in the EU.
I think Ursula von der Leyen did so.
But then he was, he was given a new role as an advisor to the Bank of America.
Now, that doesn't mean that he's there on a nine-to-five weekly basis.
It says that it's symbolic, but a few days he gives, let's say, advice to the Bank of America.
And that's after Trump has been elected.
Yeah.
Just to say.
So, yeah, exactly as you were saying.
Thierry went to tried to go to war with Iran over X and its, You know, um, overstepping of the DSA.
Um, but Elon wasn't having it.
Obviously, this is all very well chronicled at this point.
Uh, and then we get into other activist sorts as well.
Now, this here, I actually found quite interesting because obviously, I, as no expert on German politics, um, obviously, this led me to look into this hate aid, and it seems to be, for all intents and purposes, kind of like a German cousin to Hope Not Hate, which, as we all know, is a very scary idea.
Can you make hope not hate even worse?
Apparently, so apparently, you can.
This Frankenstein except with German efficiency, yeah, organization.
There's a big one in Canada as well.
I'm kind of wondering now if these are all related.
That's stopped working.
I mean, they're all probably funded by their own governments and Soros as well.
Yeah, and so there are domestic and international elements in all of it.
And obviously, the EU wasn't particularly happy about this.
They said that our casia callous, who, as we know, would be in a terrible place as a society, as a civilization, if we didn't have Kadja here watching over us all, saying the decision by the US to impose travel restrictions on European citizens and officials is unacceptable.
And then attempt to challenge our sovereignty.
Europe will keep defending its values, freedom of expression, fair digital rules, and the right to regulate our own space.
Yes, and it's that regulation of the digital rules and the freedom of expression, Kadja, that has got you into this position in the first place.
A position that you don't even believe in.
Because, as we point out here, you're, as we said, when it comes to things like Russia, all of a sudden going into another country and being able to travel there is a privilege and not a human right.
And it's easy to do so.
It takes political will.
It is guard the borders, stop excessive voluntarism.
And that's it.
Just for the sake of time, I'll skip through the last few, which is to say that Macron, of course, was absolutely not happy about it either and stood up for his mate Breton.
Even though I would suggest that actually maybe you'd be wanting to have a bit of a stronger word with him, given that he seems to have contributed to such an international crisis, right?
Where we're actually getting European officials barred from America.
But nonetheless, yes, he was a good boy and he did his job, just as the technocrats wanted.
But all of this comes down to as well to say that, of course, they will keep going after the AFD as they rise in the polls.
They will keep trying to switch which party is in power on the front of Eastern Europe.
Marine Le Peng was banned.
Now, I don't actually particularly care very strongly about that.
In principle, obviously, I think it's wrong, but I think the French establishment have shot themselves in the foot a bit here by getting the old boomer woman out of the way and replacing her with basically Jordan Bardello, who is a younger, more radical option.
But that really is the point.
That the EU is constantly trying to censor and just manage the perception of its own politics and what it's doing.
And because of platforms like X, that narrative is running away from them.
And the part the parties as well.
I mean, talk about the French elections, the most recent French election, there was the active involvement and coordination between all of the parties opposing Le Pen's party.
Yeah, absolutely.
To gatekeep them out by strategically pulling out candidates in specific places.
And so, and also as well, just to say as well, that, of course, we know that to just go off of what your point was, Harry, as well, about American influence, of course, in Europe, that we know that many of these new populist parties that are coming in that are on the rise are obviously more friendly to the Trump presidency and more friendly to America than a lot of the current European technocrats.
I imagine that's one of the ways that they hope to hurry favour so that America can move against these types rather than I absolutely agree.
And also, just to say as well, that whilst all of this goes on, you have people like Martin Selner, you know, patriots in their own right.
And obviously, you had Lauren Southern back in 2018 as well.
She was barred from banned from coming to Britain because she was regarded as being a, well, just it wasn't in the public good for her to be allowed in the country because she was probably going to say some things about immigration that would have been a real PR problem for the establishment.
And so all of this is going on in one direction.
And it's good to finally see, even if it is in just such a small way, some of the architects of this madness finally being you know having some the eye of Sauron put on them as well and that they may hopefully escalate further.
The last thing that I want to point out with all of this as well is to come back to what a lot of the talk was about towards the end of last year.
All of this is going on whilst the EU seems to ratchet up the rhetoric about sending us all to war.
And I do wonder with all of this if actually despite the US state bearing down on the EU, who it obviously has no liking for, and neither really do the populations of Europe, if in fact, rather than being out of the woods, things might get even more dangerous.
Because as this establishment weakens, it will panic.
And I actually think that, again, just to come back to it one last time, if we see things like what was happening in Cologne and the monstrous horrors that have been allowed to go on in Europe over these many years, there is nothing that those in Brussels will not do if it means preserving their power.
We do not matter to them.
And so I think that this is a good move from Washington, although I agree that we should be cynical about the reasons for it.
And I only hope personally that we see, as I say, some more coming the EU's way in the future.
All right.
I'll need a drink actually.
I think that last tweet you were showing is important because the lie that gets to me is, was it Kaja or Hajj or whatever her name is?
When they keep pushing this, we support freedom of expression.
There's not a single country in Europe that has free speech enshrined in their laws, not a single one that doesn't have a caveat for hate speech.
And what's more, that freedom of speech, just the definition of it shrinks year on year as a run out.
Right, I'll three rumble rents.
Yeah, I'll quickly go through.
By surfers.
That's for the next.
Maybe.
Oh, yeah.
He says for my segment, statistically, redemption is a lie in any real sense.
I can't see whatever you've linked us to there, but I'm sure that you've brought up some really great statistics.
Just as a priest, I can say redemption is not a lie.
We rely on it.
Just got to speak up for the old J-Man here.
You just keep sipping from that mug, you know.
Logan Pine says, Some on our side claim that because we don't do something that I can't say to leaders, Minecraft our leaders will never win, forgetting that it took us years to even understand what was happening.
I don't think, and you are referring, I'll say it, you're referring to AA there.
I don't think that that's exactly what he's saying.
I think he's saying that we are not in a position to be able to consider doing anything like that to our leaders, and that poor organization on the right keeps us from being able to do anything like exercise power because some people are led by the nose on the news cycle.
I do not take quite so dour a position on the whole subject as him.
I am happy to be positive about things, and I, being a nationalist as well, I do think that there are people trying to organize things.
But from his perspective, I can see why he gets so grumpy about things.
Listen, we all get grumpy sometimes.
And then the final one from Logan says, The right was muted before 2016.
Now look at what we've become.
The Zoomers are breaking down the door, and the new leaders are gathering steam.
Yeah, reasons for hope.
All right, Harry, over to you.
Well, because I've re-watched the prequels over the weekend, when you say, look at what we're becoming, I've just gotten in my mind Anakin post-murdering me.
What have I become?
And then immediately marching on the Jedi Temple to kill children.
Fulfilling your destiny.
This is what the Zoomers are becoming.
This is what we're doing.
So this should be Steleos' favourite segment.
Why?
Podcast.
Whores.
What is Scribbus?
See, I told you, I've put a smile on his face already.
Harry, you had my curiosity.
Now you got my attention.
Oh, did this desk just raise a few of it?
Anyway.
So, whores.
Sadly, in the modern period that we live in, young girls have more opportunities than ever to become whores at a very young age.
Many of them, or at least too many of them, basically, as soon as they turn 18, can immediately sign up to OnlyFans and start selling pictures and videos of themselves to creeps across the internet.
But what happens when the inevitable spiritual and mental degradation that comes with that behavior starts to get to them?
Is there redemption?
Is there a path outside of it?
And that's what I want to examine today.
I will also just preface all of this by saying OnlyFans as a platform, internet pornography more broadly, but OnlyFans specifically for the sake of this, is a heinous and disgusting platform that really should be banned because it gives these young girls and they pay purposefully for promotion and advertising across newspapers for news stories about young girls who immediately signed up on their 18th birthday and made millions of dollars in a single day to promote that platform,
giving these girls the idea that as soon as they are able to, they should become internet porn stars, which is a disgusting thing to encourage young girls to do.
Imagine, remember that these are people's daughters, sisters, future mothers, and this is really, really bad for them.
Just on a personal level, outside of all of the men who enable it, outside of the fact that they're enabling men's bad behavior as well.
Spiritually, it is a horrible, horrible poison that they are inflicting on themselves.
And so what happens when that gets to them?
Well, Lily Phillips, of all people, who you may remember from, I think I do not have the tweet on here, but you may remember at the end of around 2024, there were the viral clips of her going around where she was crying and weeping because she had done a challenge for her OnlyFans page where she had slept with 100 men in 12 hours, I think.
And it was caught as part of some documentary that was being made on it.
Her crying afterwards.
Now, I saw some people trying to make excuses for this, saying that this was because, oh, she had something in her eye.
I'm sure some of it did get in her eye, but she also just seems genuinely very upset and was speaking about how she had begun dissociating during the experience.
And of the 100 men, or over 100, I don't know how many, she could only really remember nine or ten.
Now, that to me sounds like a very unhealthy experience to put yourself through.
On a personal level, that sounds damaging.
And since then, she leaned into that.
Her and that bonny blue woman kind of went through a period of challenging one another in competition where they would do one extreme sex stunt after another to try and top what the other one had done.
And that led to one stunt where this Lily Phillips, I think, slept with over a thousand men.
Which is the sort of thing that would happen to you if you were captured by some sort of Mongol warlord, you know, in the middle of the ages, not out of your own choice.
But she put herself through it on purpose.
And then, surprise news came at the end of last year, on the 28th of December 2025, she was quote-unquote re-baptized on camera, as all of the most sincere baptisms are, and stated that she had rededicated her life to God.
This is despite the fact that she still has an up-and-running OnlyFans account.
And I wouldn't recommend going on it.
But if you go on her Twitter page, she is still just for free posting full frontal nudes of herself on there as well, which begs the question of how sincere this kind of rededication to her faith is.
Did she stop her OnlyFans?
No.
Because you'd expect if there was something that was genuine, she would stop the OnlyFans.
I mean, is that from a theological perspective?
No, she's not stopping.
It's still active.
Is it too active physical?
If you can indulge me, this is what I said when I heard that she got baptized.
Praise the Lord.
May she have a sound spiritual director who advises her to stay off social media indefinitely.
Instead of promoting these OnlyFans whores every time they set a degenerate record, we should pray for all harlots to turn to Christ.
Civilized nations should ban OnlyFans.
So I'm with you entirely.
But I didn't know she was still doing this.
She's still doing it.
She's still posting some previews for free on her Twitter page.
She made a statement about it in one of these insufferable videos where they talk to camera while doing their makeup.
and she says that she's still doing it.
She's not doing any of the major stunts anymore, but she's still doing the...
So maybe she's stepped it back a little bit, but she's saying that she's also still pro-gay marriage.
She's still pro-abortion.
She said that she was unhappy because she didn't please everyone.
Well, Samson, I've sent you only a thousand people.
Yeah, I've sent you Samson the Lotus Cedar segment we did about this.
It was with Harry and Josh.
Maybe you can just upload it for people to see.
Just for the record, there's no such thing as a re-baptism.
It's impossible.
Every single denomination recognizes everyone else's baptism.
If you're baptized in water and the spirit, if you're baptized in the name of the Holy Trinity, you're a part of the church.
You can't get re-baptized.
It's actually a heresy.
Yeah, but this all the, if I were to, there are two paths that you can take with examining something like this, which is that you can take the cynical path or you can take a more positive path on this.
And this cynical path is that this is just a thing that some of these girls do now.
They try, they make as much money as possible putting themselves through this, exhibiting themselves in public on the internet, and then they decide that they want to take the money without the responsibility.
And so they decide, I'm going to get baptized or re-baptized.
I'm going to return to my faith and I'm going to try to present myself as virtuous.
Interestingly enough, Lily Phillips hasn't even tried that.
She's just gone, oh, by the way, I'm a Christian.
Anyway, back to sucking dick on camera.
Or the positive side of it could be that this could be a first step for her.
If I'm going to try and be positive about it, clearly what she has put herself through has broken part of her.
It was in an interview that I read reading up on this that she said that in the past few months, she had felt a need to connect with and speak to God again, which suggests to me that after going through all of these stunts, she knew that she had degraded herself and that she knew that she was making herself miserable and had maybe put herself on the wrong path.
Now, this is all subject to be re-examined in a year's time.
We'll see if this does end up being a positive step for her.
But it was because of that, it seems, that she felt the need to reconnect with her faith and perhaps surrounding herself with positive influences in the church, they can start to pull her away from carrying on down this path,
especially because it is less than great religiously as a Christian for her to continue behaving this way because she is also acting as a conduit and as a piece of publicity for other girls to start doing the same thing.
And one of the things that we've discussed on this show before as well is that women like Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue, when they challenge one another, especially with Bonnie Blue all of a sudden being promoted, as Connor pointed out, with the Spectator article, she's currently, she's a Farage supporter now, and she's a reform voter.
You challenge now every reform voter in election period.
Listen, if you want to, this is why I'm not voting reform.
Stelios still on the fence.
He's not decided yet, clearly.
Before move on, because you're right to be charitable, you're right to be generous.
And there are two people that need to help people like Lilia Phillips.
One of them is us.
We need to be praying for her.
As Christians, we need to be praying for all of these harlots to come to Christ.
The second person is her priest.
He should be telling her that you cannot be living this life and be a Christian.
You cannot say, actually, I still support same-sex marriage and abortion.
I'm still going to suck dick on camera.
You can't do that stuff and be a Christian.
And the fact that he's had his face blurred out shows me he's not actually being forthright.
He's not being there and saying, you're going to choose one or the other.
You can be all of it now as a modern Christian in the C of E. You can do that stuff.
Yeah, but the liberal Christianity needs to die.
Have we verified, and by we, I don't say we on this panel, generally speaking, have people verified that this baptism has taken place?
Because exactly, the blurred face on the priest, pastor is a bit.
I mean, it could be a set.
Suspicious.
It could be a set, but so far there doesn't seem any reason to believe that this isn't actually what she believes, that she does believe in God and that she considers herself a Christian.
And she has it on the profile, let's F and then world record slazza.
Well, exactly.
This is why you can take the cynical route and say that this is insincere.
It's a publicity stunt, etc., etc.
But I'm saying that you can take the two paths.
I'm not saying which one that I'm taking, but no matter what, she needs to stop this.
People need to stop promoting it.
Because what I was going to say, people like her and Bonnie Blue also act as an advertisement for foreign men.
Coming into this country, loads and loads of foreign men, particularly of Middle Eastern extraction, and I'm talking about India, Pakistan, the rest of the Middle East, Afghanistan, they will only know and have experience of white women through platforms like OnlyFans and through pornography.
So they have this preconceived idea in their heads that blonde-haired, blue-eyed women are all whores.
Because women like Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips put videos of themselves online sleeping with hordes and hordes of men.
In the videos that you saw of people lining up for those kinds of events, people made a lot of note about the fact that a lot of the men in those queues seemed to be Middle Eastern, seemed to be Pakistani.
And so they get this idea from these women, all white women are whores.
Come to England, come to Europe, and you'll be able to have as much sex with all of the whoreish women that you want as is allowed and encouraged within your religious texts.
And then when they get over here, and it turns out actually, they're not quite so forthcoming as you were led to believe.
Obviously, I'm not saying that it's the only factor, but it's definitely a factor in drawing these men in and making it so that they expect that these women will be whores for them and do whatever they want and behave that way.
That's not to take away their agency.
That's not to suggest they wouldn't behave like that anyway, because they certainly would.
We know that from the Pakistani rape gangs.
But it's certainly a factor drawing them in.
And that's where I want to come to something else.
If we were to take the less cynical route, I was very cynical initially when this woman, Nala Ray, became the poster child for this kind of thing.
And I was very, very worried that she had done a few years on OnlyFans, made millions of dollars, and then decided to convert and stop for good publicity so that she would be able to basically take the money and run without taking the responsibility.
And I can still say that there is some cynicism here, but there is something else that she speaks about that I'll get onto in a moment, which is the really dark side that draws a lot of these women into this.
Because you've got to understand, a lot of girls understand implicitly whether or not they want to take the liberal feminist line of supporting it.
Oh, it's all about girl power.
We can do what we want.
We don't have to take responsibility.
Yada yada.
There is a real dark side to this, which is what goes on in a lot of these girls, youths, what happened in their childhood, how they've been manipulated and groomed by sometimes their own family members.
Like Bonnie Blue is quite notorious that her own family is her management.
It's very weird.
Yeah, it's very weird for people who act in such ways to have a normal background.
Any father who can stand beside his daughter and help arrange and manage her career when this is her career has something very suspicious about him as far as I'm concerned.
That's my own personal views.
But still, I don't look at a man like that.
I don't look at a man like that without suspicion.
And that's one of the other news things that's come up recently is this girl, I'd never heard of her before, but this news story started popping up in places where I could see it, which was teen influencer Piper Roquelle says OnlyFans changed her life after eye-watering day one earnings.
And this is the kind of headline that I say is being used to draw these women in, to draw young girls in.
You hit 18, start on the first day.
If you've got an internet personality already, if you've got a following, imagine how many creeps in your audience are going to want to sign up straight away because that's what they've been watching for you in the first place.
And this is one of the big dangers of girls on the internet when they're children and teenagers in the first place, is there are so many creeps out there who are just following them so that they can perv on them.
And this is rewarding those people as well, as well by encouraging it, by knowing that, oh, as soon as they turn 18, oh, I'll be able to get the good stuff then.
But this is a situation where this girl had been a YouTube influencer since she was eight years old.
Right?
She had been managed by her mother, Tiffany Smith.
And in a now-deleted ex-post, Raquel shared a screenshot of her day one earnings.
It was something like $2.9 million.
She's so young.
So she lacks maturity and wisdom to realize.
She turned 18.
Is her mother still managing her?
Yes.
Yes.
Sick.
And this is some pretty depraved stuff.
Ahead of her OnlyFans launch, Raquel uploaded an Instagram video with her grandmother predicting that she would make $2 million in her first day.
So her own grandmother is involved and on board with this as well.
And this is a girl who'd been put on the internet from a very, very young age, managed entirely by her mother and the rest of her family involved as well.
They need arresting for grooming.
Realistically.
They have boomed their own daughter to whore her out for a couple of million dollars.
But that's what it appears right now.
But also, even more worryingly, Raquel is known for the 2022 scandal involving her mother, which became the subject of a Netflix docu-series Bad Influence, The Dark Side of Kid Fluencing.
Following her daughter's rise to fame, Smith created The Squad, enlisting several other fellow child influencers to start collaborating on videos.
Smith was later sued by 11 former squad members for alleged, quote, emotional, verbal, physical, and at times, sexual abuse while creating content for the latter's YouTube channel.
To this day, Raquel has remained loyal to her mother, insisting that she did not do any of those things that they said.
And I'll stand by my mom to the end.
The lawsuit eventually was settled outside of court, with both parties agreeing to a $1.8 million settlement.
I want to say that one of the greatest myths, which actually really bad, I'm not saying it's good, but it's a myth that is really influential.
Is that which says that every parent loves their children?
Unfortunately, it's not true.
Sadly, some like this parent evidently just saw her child as an asset to make money off of.
And other people's children, it seems.
Yeah, as well.
And take advantage of them.
And who knows?
I mean, it's suggested that in some pretty awful ways.
So a lot of these girls who are being put onto these platforms at a very, very young age are not coming from good backgrounds.
They have very damaged backgrounds.
They have very toxic parents, very bad relationships with the people around them.
And that's where I come back to Nala Ray.
And again, I understand people who are still very cynical about her, who don't trust that this is necessarily sincere.
But at the very least, from what is being reported, she does seem to actually be trying to do something positive off of the back of her conversion and also to try and prevent other girls from going onto the platform.
And it talks about here how she is an outspoken anti-pornography advocate following it.
And it talks about her past here.
And you could say that this is a sob story or whatever, but the fact is, a lot of these girls will have similar backgrounds.
So it talks about how her father and her mother, they lost their house in a hurricane when she was like six years old.
Her father then went on to have an affair, left the family, came back to the family, converted to baptism, became a priest, and then she had difficult problems with those churches.
But then her dad took in a 16-year-old boy, letting him live in their home.
The boy molested Ray when she was 13, and the abuse continued for months until he ran away one night.
Ray says neither she nor her family have heard from him since.
Good riddance, although he should be locked up in prison, if not worse.
And she says that it was that kind of thing, her problems with the church, her emotional problems as a result of what happened to her that led her to jump onto OnlyFans when it was just starting as a platform.
And she said that there was this feedback loop that came into it.
She jumps onto it, and then all of a sudden she starts earning money.
And she says as the earnings ramped up, so did the pressure to make more gratuitous content.
And this is another feedback loop that we've spoken about before, the desensitization, that these things become normal.
And this is both on the men consuming this stuff.
It dulls your senses.
Things that were once extreme aren't extreme anymore.
So you go into this loop where you end up getting into more and more deranged stuff.
This is where you've seen platforms like Pornhub when they were exposed by what's his name?
The guy who goes undercover and sends people to do undercover camera recordings.
Very key.
James O'Keefe.
James O'Keefe.
Yeah, where people like him and some, I've forgotten her name.
There was the American woman a few years ago who did the expose on some of the Pornhub producers where they said that they were pushing their algorithms in such a way to try and encourage young boys to go onto gay and trans pornography.
Because again, you say, well, they're not gay, so they're not going to get into it.
Well, actually, they've been desensitized to this stuff.
And if it's being constantly pushed in their face, just to seek that thrill, they might click on it.
That's how these algorithms work to try and push onto it.
But this is the feedback, but it also works for these people as well, the creators, because they're pushed to make this gratuitous content, she says.
And she says that she ended up relying on marijuana and alcohol to get through particularly tough filming days.
Anything she said to numb herself.
So that's a pretty horrible thing to put yourself through, even if you are making millions of dollars off of it, because ultimately the humiliation you're putting yourself through makes you realize that you're treating yourself as an object.
You're destroying all of your self-worth.
And ask yourself, you know, as a father, as a brother, as a son, the women in your life, even if they were making millions and millions of dollars, you don't want them to put themselves through that either.
There's more to life than money.
There certainly is.
And Ray now says that she still has a lot of empathy for the women who do OnlyFans, though she disagrees with their actions.
She knows that many girls have struggled in ways that few will ever understand.
She says, I have a heart for the OnlyFans girls, not only because I was one, but I saw it.
So many girls were like, oh, my dad abused me.
My stepdad tried to do things with me.
I don't have a dad.
My dad ran away.
My mom hates me.
I heard it all.
Behavior is a symptom of what's really going on underneath, right?
Hurt damages people so bad, and shame will lead you into things that you have never thought that you would do.
Usually comes from a dysfunctional family.
When they ask for it, she now helps guide people through the process of quitting OnlyFans.
She recalls one model who deleted her account after flying to Tennessee to have a heart-to-heart with her in person.
So, I actually think that's probably the best way that she can go about using the influence that she has gained from her notoriety in the first place.
And it does seem that she has tried to take on a legitimate and sincere path to redemption.
I hope that she sticks on that path.
And I hope that Lily Phillips, in kind of rededicating herself to her faith, even if it is only half-heartedly right now or insincerely, you might argue.
I can only hope that she's taking a positive step on this path and that this will lead to her abandoning it and disavowing it in the future.
And I can only hope the same for all of these women.
But really, the most effective way of preventing this would be cutting it off at the source and for governments across the world to take action against platforms like OnlyFans, which do encourage this behavior purely for the sake of profit.
They're not caring about women's liberation.
They don't care.
You at home who might watch this and say, God damn it, I have the God-given right to goon.
You do not have the God-given right to goon, first of all.
But second, the companies promoting this stuff and pushing it that damages your brain.
It literally reduces the white matter in your brain, rewires the neural pathways in your head.
They are not doing it for the sake of your liberation.
They're using it as a form of thought control.
They're using it as a form of degeneration and they're using it to make money off of you.
You do not have to invest your personal ego to defend this stuff just because you feel that it's embarrassing to have partaken in it in the first place.
We've all done stuff that at the end of it we feel ashamed of, but you don't have to support this.
This is societal poison for this to be an option for young girls to take as soon as they hit 18, especially when the kind of girls doing it are already damaged.
They do not need this.
They need proper help.
This is not helping them.
It's not helping you.
These platforms need to be properly assaulted by the states, not half-hearted measures that are just using stuff like the Online Safety Act to actually crack down on political dissidents rather than actually protecting people from these kinds of vices.
You have plenty of obscenity laws, plenty of public decency laws already on the books that could be used to crack down on these things.
But I do hope that these girls can find some kind of redemption sincerely.
I hope that they can find better and more wholesome ways to live their lives.
There's always a way.
I find it sad because you're absolutely spot on, Harry.
But you're sitting here teaching people why it's bad for them, right?
For the men to be gooning, for the women to be prostituting.
It's because we've lost all sense of what sin is.
As a Christian nation, we used to understand things were morally good and morally evil.
Things were good for us and bad for us.
Pornography is bad for us, both the men and the women.
It is wicked.
It's demonic.
It affects your brain chemistry.
It affects your soul.
The trauma of it is not good for the men or the women.
It needs to be banned.
Well, just think, like, how many men, I'm sure everybody has personal experience, report that after you're done watching, after you're done, feeling that wave of humiliation and shame come over them, right?
That's literally your body giving you a feedback saying, shouldn't have done that.
That wasn't a good thing to do.
The thing is, like, the whole idea of old biblical vices, the more that science does research into them, the more it's vindicated that they are actual vices, the way that they negatively affect your body and your mind.
God gave us a conscience.
He gave us intuition.
We should trust our gut.
When something feels wrong, most of the time there's something wrong about it that we sense that we can't articulate.
Yeah.
Anyway, do we have any video comments?
In two minutes, yes.
All right.
All right.
I'll go through a couple of these.
Ryan Hannigan, I will be founding Father Calvin's anti-unit nudging nudge unit.
Do not enable these people and shame those who do look back in contempt.
Luke, Harry, she's doing a typical woman thing, trying to avoid accountability.
If she truly was repentive, she should have given all the money she's making from OnlyFans and donate it to a charity like Ezekiel.
Are you referring to Lily Phillips or Nala Ray?
Because I do agree that Nala Ray should make charitable donations with the money that she made.
Lily Phillips, for the time being, I do think that it seems quite cynical, but I can hope that it will maybe, if she surrounds herself with the right and virtuous people, that she can be nudged onto a better path.
And not to interrupt, but repentance is always possible.
Redemption is always possible.
Just repent of your sins, embrace Jesus Christ, and you are saved.
It's as simple as that.
Based ape, I hate whores as much as the next man, but she did say during the documentary that most of her clients were her dad's mates.
And I didn't hear a single person demand that man was investigated.
Yeah, that's creepy.
That's what I mean.
Like, it's encouraging people's pervy behavior.
Like, the same with this teenage influencer.
Like, all of the men, all of the perves that would have been watching her purely for the sake of perving on a teen girl.
And don't tell me for a second that her mother and the rest of the management don't know that that's a significant portion of the viewer base that they're playing to.
I mean, come on.
Everybody knows.
Yeah, it's encouraging this kind of behavior in men as well.
That's why I'm saying, like, don't let anybody off the hook involved in any of this, frankly.
Not just a string.
I believe I recall a lot of OnlyFans subscribers are supposed to be married.
Probably a lot of sexless slash lonely marriages that need some counseling.
AI destroying this industry will at least be less disgusting.
Yeah, but that's not going to help the situation ultimately, is it?
Especially because, like, if those wives find out that what they're subscribing to, that's not going to help the marriage.
That's not going to help the marriage at all.
And that's a random name.
I think I know why Lily kept her thing open.
After all, that second baptism is cute and all.
But the.
And a very, very crass joke.
Grim.
And another one.
Montreal, where I live, is the headquarters of ALO, aka MindGeek, aka Pornhub.
The company's owners live in lavish mansions.
The money behind this industry is insane.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, people don't understand.
I think E. Michael Jones, who I'm very critical of in many different ways.
But he does make some great arguments against pornography.
Like, he made the point in his book on the history of the pornography industry that when you defend these people for the sake of like liberty, you are not defending your own liberty.
You're defending their right to take advantage of you and make money taking advantage of you.
You're working for their interests.
You're not working for your own.
You will feel so much better in yourself and you'll be in so much more control of yourself if you choose to take a path of virtuous restraint instead of just indulging.
Like modern society throws all of this stuff at you.
It wants you.
It wants you obsessed with this stuff.
It wants you thinking about this stuff all of the time because it's a way to control your thoughts.
It's a way to control your mind.
It's a way to win you on side by getting you personally invested in their money-making schemes.
So I.M. Jones will address something that I don't think we're going to address today, but the current instance of who owns that industry, the predominant demographic that runs that industry and he's looking into too.
Sorry, masturbating yourself to porn is bad.
Pay someone to do it for you instead, Harry.
I don't remember saying that during the segment, but yeah, I mean, I'd say if you can get a girlfriend, you will end up still paying for it that way, but it's more of a mutual.
Get married, have children.
Yeah, yeah.
Earlier, the link that you couldn't view was 1 to 50 partners equals 20% divorce rate, and that's binary server.
6 to 10 equals 22%, 10 to 20, 33%, 20 to 50, 62%, 50% plus, 98% divorce rate.
So we were looking at some stats earlier, or talking about some stats.
I looked it up.
2% of all young girls in Generation Z are on OnlyFans.
You looked at.
Because I've seen much higher statistics cited, but the sources for them were very, very dubious.
2%, sadly.
Still a lot.
It is.
It does sound more realistic.
Alright, let's, uh, play the video comment, shall we, Samson?
Okay, that was a good one.
That was exactly how it went down.
AI is insane.
If the American Imperialists want to win me over, they need to actually genetically engineer that JD Vance and then clone him en masse.
And he can be the new American Armed Forces.
Then maybe you'd win me over, guys.
Next one, Samson.
Given that I was on the gold tier team, I can confirm that this was true.
My missus keeps telling me, oh, the Fallout Show is not too bad.
You don't eat it.
Like, I thought it was alright during the first series.
And I'm just thinking, like, don't get me started.
It was okay, wasn't it?
At the first series, Carl and Scotty were not impressed.
Not a fallout.
Anybody, like, just ask Callum, right?
Anybody who likes New Vegas and appreciates the New Vegas law knows that Bethesda is just trying to shit all over it, man.
Like, they created something accidentally based and now want to retract it.
I don't even know if New Vegas was accidentally based because if you align yourself with Mr. House, his arguments are just the most well-reasoned.
Ultimately, he just makes the most sense.
Interesting.
I'll have to get around to playing it.
I've had so many recommendations.
We'll just go through some of the comments quickly then.
Jan Havy says, Welcome back, lads.
Happy New Year.
Hope you all had fun.
Very interesting situation to open the new year.
Best of luck to all of us for whatever comes ahead.
Absolutely, Jan Javi.
Happy New Year to Rick Monica says, great to see Father Calvin, Deus Vault.
Deus Vault.
God bless you.
Yes.
And Sneeder Chuck says, good to see Father Calvin once again with the Lotus Eaters crew.
The good news just keeps on coming.
Also, nice to see that Stellios was not trapped in the Greek airport and announced breakfast with no reference about it.
I wasn't trapped, no.
Breakfast with Bose already having its own references.
They've already got insider memes that we're not part of.
Roman Observer says, is Father Calvin here to perform the last ride for rule-based international orders?
Absolutely.
Richard Schmeer says you can't just open quotes, you can just go on and have no casualties on your side without any help, close quotes.
No, you can't.
America can.
You need to get that through your head, Harry.
Oh, okay.
All right, I'm sure you can just, like, kidnap the sitting president of any country anywhere with no casualties, with no help on the inside.
Yeah, okay, sure thing.
We're going to have to spend that bottle and try it.
Theodore Brewer says the issue with Congress is that they leak information like a screen door in a submarine.
So I get why they don't get notified.
And Lord Inquesto Hector X, the elites don't want you to know this, but the dictators at the park are free.
You can just take them.
I have 453 dictators at home.
It's quite funny.
Sam Weston from my segment says, for these Eurocrats, it's a case of despotism justifies the means.
They want absolute control and they hate anything they cannot control.
Not having the power scares them.
If it means creating an anarchic tyranny and or a petty vindictive bureaucracy to keep people under their thumb, they will happily destroy people's lives for the sake of power.
Yeah, well, well said, Sam.
Don't worry, we've got both anarchic tyranny and a nice petty vindictive European.
We've been very, very busy these past decades.
Russian garbage human, a fatherless society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
True.
100%.
Omar Award, any redemption requires introspection.
A four-digit body count is a lot of sin and will need an equal amount of repentance to show sincerity.
It's easy to seek forgiveness from God, but it will be a much longer journey for Lily to forgive herself and whoever brought her into it.
And yeah, I do agree.
I think it's on her to be able to look into herself and try and work through all of the...
I know this is a massively overused word today, but I can't imagine that you get ran through by over a thousand men in less than a day without incurring some pretty heavy personal mental trauma.
Because like you said, Luca, that's the kind of thing that used to happen to women who had been captured by Mongol whores.
And there's still a part of your psychology and biology that's programmed to treat it as such.
So that's pretty horrible.
Sophie Liv, something men don't understand is just how insecure we women are by nature.
I understand very well.
Thank you.
That is why we seek validation.
Maybe by asking us if a dress makes us look fat.
But obviously, the given validation through social media has just been horrific.
It isn't just about money.
It's actually less about the money and the addiction to validation feedback loop.
That is definitely a part of it.
Someone online, when Jesus rescued the whores in Rome, he told them to go and sin no more.
She has to actually stop.
Yes, I agree.
Baron von Warhawk, the true test of Lily Phillips is she needs to delete her social media and go offline, prove her redemption.
Until then, she is still a whore.
Well, overtly so.
She's still doing this.
Even if she's not going quite as overt as she used to in how outlandish the stunts are, she's still doing it.
George Hap, prostitutes who adopt a supposed trad Christian persona, have just hit the wall and want to double dip on the internet frame.
This ends Christian grace of accepting and promoting them as some sort of great redemption story is why tradcons are a joke.
They haven't returned the money they earned from porn and that tells you everything.
I completely agree with a lot of them if it just turns into a social media publicity stunt strategy, then that's bad.
But at the very least, from what I was able to find out about what Nala Ray is doing, she does seem to be trying to tell to people and try to get them off the platform as well.
And outside of the platform being shut down entirely and support being given from outside, I do think that that's probably the best thing that she can do with her influence that she's got from it.
So I don't want to be too cynical against her because right now, she seems to be actually sincere in it.
Just to wrap up with these honourable mentions, Michael.
Can I say before this?
Ed Millibund Harnessing Enoch Spinning Grave says, never go on.
Never go.
Oh, what are we out with here too?
No, no, no.
He said do goon.
No, he said he spoke the opposite.
Typical subversive hitchings.
What can we say?
I did like seeing Omar, Sophie, and Derek and some of the old regulars on there as well.
It's good to see you guys.
Oh, yeah.
It's always good to have the regulars.
Yeah.
Michael DeBelba says, good to see Father Calvin on the podcast.
Have you left the US behind, Father, or are you just visiting old friends?
I'm just visiting old friends and family at the moment.
Thank you.
I'll be back soon.
Someone online says Sith Harry just wanted to play video games.
Listen, re-watching the prequel trilogy, it was great to see a series where the good guys win in the end.
Yeah.
We'll have to have a longer conversation.
But also Sith Harry mass watched Dune.
All right.
All right.
Did the good guys win in that one too?
But the Jedi's were the bad guys.
I'm with you on that.
No, exactly.
No, honestly, man.
It's part of the discussion.
We need to have this out.
But just like watching Revenge of the Sith again, it was like, no wonder.
No wonder Anakin did what he did.
Because Anakin's there going like, I've got abandonment issues from being separated from my mother at a young age.
Then next time I saw her after I left, she died in my arms.
Now I'm being tormented by dreams that my loved ones will.
Apparently, Portman will die.
Yeah, my loved ones are going to die.
And Yoda's just there, like, ah, get over it, bro.
Get over it.
Just get rid of your worldly possessions.
At least Palpatine actually listened to him, right?
And let's not forget, let's not forget, the Jedi were literally going to take power when they usurped Palpatine.
There's the scene where Mace Windu's like, we're going to need to take power to ensure a transitional peace.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, sure.
You guys tell yourselves whatever you want if you want to justify taking power from Public.
Oh, he was a Sith Lord.
He brought peace and prosperity to the Galactic Empire.
Thank you very much.
We will make a longer conversation out of this.
For now, viewers.
Also, just to say, Firas's take on Venezuela will be up on the website at 3pm.
You can go watch his Real Politique.
And we look forward to seeing you on the podcast at 1pm tomorrow.