The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1293

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1293 for the 11th of November 2025.
	I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Dan and Josh.
	Hello.
	How are you fine, gentlemen?
	Absolutely tippity top, sir.
	Good.
	Very well, very husky, unfortunately, so sorry about that.
	Yeah.
	He's been pulling it on, taking it off.
	He's not quite sure what he wants the voice to be, actually.
	Well, it goes normal for a little while and then it goes back to this again.
	Yeah.
	Votes in the chat on which one you prefer.
	Anyway.
	So it's very seductive, Josh.
	Well, thank you.
	Makes me feel a lot better.
	You're feeling quite seduced.
	Well, yeah.
	So thank goodness there's a table between us.
	Anyway, today we're going to be talking all about how mass deportations have basically become normalised in Britain.
	Now we're at the point where everyone wants them and those that don't just look like weirdos, really.
	We're then going to be talking about the world's first trillionaire and then we're going to be talking about how you just shouldn't mess with India or visit India, I assume.
	There'll be some just good travel advice in the world.
	There's multiple layers of depravity to unravel here.
	It's quite an S show, let's just say that.
	I see.
	All right.
	So before we begin, we just want to give a special shout out to On Rumble for a £200 Rumble rant, which is just here's beer money for the crew in the back from Blood for the Blood God.
	So thank you very much.
	That's a challenge.
	That is tremendous, sir.
	We note that you've been doing that all week, possibly longer, actually.
	Our man is scanning back through the logs now.
	So thank you very much.
	May I ask somebody else to chip in another £2 for Alka Seltzer?
	And £60 for a pack of pork scratchings.
	Yes, why not?
	We should probably also mention it's Armistice Day today.
	We are.
	I was just about to, yes.
	No, it's all right.
	No, I was just going to.
	And of course, it is, as Josh says, Armistice Day.
	So, of course, keep those men in remembrance.
	Remember what they had to endure during World War I, World War II, and all the wars that Britain has fought.
	And of course, because if we don't remember them, well, no one from the establishment is truly going to, and none of the new arrivals much care either.
	So keep them in memory.
	All right.
	I also just want to alert people to the fact that I have a new Chronicles out, which is a freemium one.
	So any of you can go and watch it.
	It was a delightful discussion that I had with Proper Horror Show all about the ghost stories of M.R. James.
	Absolutely wonderful short stories, full of supernaturalism and just very, very charming writing.
	So if you're interested in that, do please go take a look.
	So, of course.
	Of course.
	Right.
	Are we back?
	Yes, we are.
	Okay.
	So, here in Britain, it seems like the old 20th century political sort of consensus is dead.
	Liberalism.
	It's dead.
	It's worse than that.
	It's dead, Jim.
	You've got the Labour Party that is facing extinction, and you've got the Conservative Party that's facing extinction.
	Oh, actually, they rang me up just before the podcast.
	The Conservative Party rang you up.
	Yes, yes, they rang me up, and they said, we noticed that you've been a member in the past.
	Can we entice you to resubscribe?
	I'm not sure they were ready for what came next.
	No.
	You were quite curt, I expect.
	I ran through the top 10 list of why I would never join that treacherous party ever again, as long as I shall live.
	Based.
	Yes.
	Good.
	Response.
	And so, but really, what's more as well, we have the fact that no one is satisfied with the Red Blue paradigm that we've been living in for generations now, genuinely generations.
	But what's more as well, of course, this has forced people in the British public to look for other political opportunities, right?
	To look for fresh parties to put their vote behind.
	Because as far as the left are concerned, those who are of the Greens and the Jeremy Corbyn ilk, they're entirely dissatisfied with Labour because they wanted gay race communism and Labour gave them gay race neoliberalism.
	And so they're not happy.
	And as far as the right-wing and the reform voters are concerned, they wanted to live in England and make it a safe country for their grandchildren.
	And the Tories also gave them gay race neoliberalism.
	So no one's happy.
	No one's happy whatsoever.
	And we have this chart here showing you, was from a recent Ipsos poll, really just showing the total dissatisfaction.
	You can see here, how united or divided does the United Kingdom feel to you these days?
	And as you can see here, 84% of people replied varying degrees of, well, it's not particularly united, is it?
	We don't feel so much like a United Kingdom anymore.
	If it passes into this larger majority, do we need to start calling ourselves the disunited kingdom?
	Maybe, well, better be a kingdom at that rate.
	That's true, yeah.
	Moving on from that.
	But also, what's more as well, if I go through some of the other slides on here, there was one in particular that went on to say that 50% say that the culture is simply changing too fast.
	And I imagine that the other people are a collection of foreigners and lib dems who've not quite had the change thrust on them yet.
	It's also a bit of a loaded question in that the culture is changing for the worst.
	Too fast is beside the point.
	Any change in this direction is bad change.
	So any change is too fast.
	Yes, you're right.
	The question is sort of loaded in that direction to suggest that there is a correct rate of change.
	Well, yes, and this is exactly obviously what's killed the Conservative Party, the fact that they actually, in principle, agreed with the changes that were happening.
	They merely just disagreed with the speed limit.
	And so what's more as well, we also have the fact that 48% are saying that they want the country to be as it used to be.
	Now, again, that is a very vague way to frame a question, right?
	There are many ways that that could be construed.
	For example, some Corbynite could say, oh, I just want to go back to the way that things were, you know, back when we were all multicultural and proud during the Olympics or whatever it was, right?
	You can have that sort of airy fairy view.
	I mean, to be fair, 2012 would be a lot better than now.
	Oh, I agreed.
	1832 would be considerably better than that.
	But on this current trajectory, it's obviously going to be worse and worse.
	And so we have this problem now where actually as well, sorry, a lot of the people are realizing the fact that 86% are saying that there is tension between immigrants and people born in the United Kingdom.
	And you can see that this is quickly rising in the space of two years as well.
	So we've gone from that time just around Brexit where they felt like, okay, they voted for Brexit.
	We'll manage that problem.
	But essentially we'll nip their problems, their grievances with immigration in the bud, and we'll package it.
	Well, that's gone again, right?
	All of that work that they did to try and just pat down that issue was totally ruined by Boris just shoving 2 million extra people in your face.
	All it's done is increase the pressure in the pressure cooker more than anything, because now no one really trusts any mainstream politician and they know that they're going to lie to you.
	And the notion of a political solution to our problems, I think if there was polling for that, would show that people have less and less faith in that.
	I agree.
	And what's more as well, if I just go to this last one here.
	Here we go.
	So this here was not the anti-woke one.
	Culture wars, sorry, so many slides.
	There's one in particular where it talks about here.
	Green Party supporters are by far the most likely to feel transgender rights have not gone far enough, while Reform UK supporters overwhelmingly say they've gone too far.
	Now, obviously, I understand that the trans stuff is all a bit bread and circuses, but my point in actually getting up this slide is the fact that actually away from the Labour Party and the Conservative Party that represented broader churches of the same thing, because of this factionalism that we're now seeing splintering off, that basically on both sides, the camps are setting up their ideological principles.
	They're just saying, we are going to be unequivocating on this.
	So the Green Party are never going to capitulate on the trans stuff.
	They're never going to capitulate on it.
	I don't even understand what they mean by have not gone far enough.
	I mean, the mandatory castration of every baby boy born in Britain.
	I mean, what more could they want than what they've already got?
	I don't know.
	I'd love to ask some.
	They're generally protected more than your average person in the eyes of the law.
	I know, I know.
	They're all living in the fantasy.
	It's a total fantasy.
	But also, what's more, we're at the point now because none of the voters of Britain have really got what they wanted for a long, long time now.
	And so both sides we're seeing are becoming more and more uncompromising on all of these things.
	But the problem is, this puts us into a place where it just becomes a pure numbers game by the end.
	Okay, you're both uncompromising.
	So who has more?
	Who has more people on their side?
	And the good news is, of course, that going through all of these statistics and many other polls that have been had before, we are obviously in the majority.
	We are clearly in the majority and the Green Party can't really, they are growing.
	And Zach Polanski is obviously, in some polls now, even overtaking the Labour Party.
	But the point is that they cannot, unlike Starmer, who is in government and basically has to say, look, in order to maintain power, I at least have to pretend that I care.
	I have to bend my rhetoric, Island of Strangers, all the rest of it, in order to placate the Gammons.
	You're not going to get that from the Green Party.
	Because if you do, they're actually betraying their core voter base.
	Everyone in Bristol, everyone in Brighton, right, will not vote for them.
	And so they can't bend on it.
	And what's more as well, as you have with Jeremy Corbyn, of course, he is also not going to bend.
	But you have now, of course, a position where veterans of World War II are looking around and saying, it's what we, we fought for our freedom and it's worse.
	We're less free.
	We didn't actually die during D-Day to be replaced in our country, to have a massive surveillance state brought in, and just to slowly watch piece by piece our politicians sell us out to every foreign activist and interest.
	A lot of the polling I've seen have shown that the next election is going to be reform versus greens.
	I mean, the Tories obviously are done.
	I mean, nobody trusts them.
	And their position at the moment on re-migration is reasonably good, actually.
	But nobody believes them because they say this every single election and then they betray us every single time.
	Even if they did mean it, they don't deserve to be in government.
	Exactly.
	They should be punished for what they've done because they've betrayed the country and they've put us in this situation.
	And in many ways, they were able to do it far better than the Labour Party would have in the first place because they had more political capital to do it.
	And so it stings twice as badly.
	Yeah.
	And Labour, of course, are making a complete pig's ear out of everything.
	You know, you're considered far right if you don't want to see little girls murdered at a dance class.
	And they're bankrupting the country at record speed.
	So I can well believe it comes down to Greens versus reform.
	Absolutely.
	And what's more as well, that in the minds of reform voters and other people who happen to be correct, of course, you have this position now where you can see it's so interlinked that if we address the immigration issue, then a lot of the other problems that we're faced with, we're slowly going to find are beginning to ease.
	And, you know, whether it be the stabbings, right, the actual, the actual just genuine criminality, the murders, the rapes, the thievery, and all of these sorts of things.
	But what's more as well, just the sheer amount of traffic on the roads, the sheer, well, the degradation of the high streets, the $30 billion a year to house them and give them benefits.
	Right, all of this, just everything.
	Everything is connected to this.
	And so we have the older people, the people who actually bled and died for our country.
	They're not happy with the situation.
	And young girls as well here.
	And I thought I'd just play this because this was quite exceptional.
	I'm here to protect the kids and how I have the streets safer for when I have kids because I'm scared.
	Because I'm scared of anything's going to happen to me.
	Because being a white girl is really scary at this time.
	Loads of people who call me racist for going to these, but I just want to be able to feel safe in my own community.
	And I just want to be able to walk the streets like my dad and my mum used to without a worry.
	Not going to school at the moment.
	What's happening there?
	People are calling me racist at school for going to the marches and they're calling me far right.
	But the thing is, I'm not far right.
	I respect everyone's cultures, their religion, where they come from and their background.
	I just want to be able to feel safe.
	Smart kid.
	Very smart kid.
	Obviously, she'll have had conversations with the parents, of course.
	That's what I just said.
	But good for her parents for alerting her to a danger, right?
	For actually saying, look, no, it's not as safe as it was when we were growing up.
	And just this is these are the conversations that this establishment consensus forcing people to have.
	If your kid is a bit switched on like that, they're more likely to come home safe.
	Yes.
	I think it's something that we probably should have emphasized more on this podcast is that, yeah, if you've got children, it's bad enough in Britain now that you've got to explain to them the actual situation for their own safety.
	And it's obviously very, very serious.
	And it's to the extent of which that it's not even, you know, being sensationalist.
	It's not like when I was growing up and my parents were telling me about, you know, don't go home with strange people, normally strange men.
	Because that was hardly a problem where I grew up.
	But now it genuinely is.
	My parents told me about if a van turns up and somebody offers to show you puppies, don't get in the van.
	It was stuff like that.
	I don't know if that ever happened or whether that was a TV advert at the time because that seemed, even looking back now, that seems really bizarre.
	But yeah, the point is you've got to have the talk with your kids.
	Very disappointed I didn't get to see the puppies either.
	But the point is, right, that everything on the new emerging consensus of the left have nothing to address that girl's concerns.
	Absolutely nothing.
	Because as far as they're concerned, those people that that girl is rightly afraid of are not only here in this country, but here to stay and to be given every single privilege and every single piece of political fortification to basically mean that they will never be able to be removed.
	And even if they did do something to that little girl, they'd be out in a few years at Tops.
	Yeah.
	Well, a lot of the lefts, and particularly the sort of Green Party type rhetoric, is either not to acknowledge it's going on whatsoever and call people racist, or they'll argue more tacitly, because they know it doesn't sound good explicitly, that this is an acceptable thing to happen for the sake of allowing refugees in, which is, I think, one of the most contemptible things you could possibly argue.
	I absolutely agree.
	And so let's actually, on that point, listen here to Rachel Millwood, the deputy leader of the Greens, and what her position is.
	There will be a day when we sit our grandchildren on our knees and we tell them first they came for the immigrants.
	So we hung out flags from all the nations and we said refugees are welcome here.
	Stunning and Brave doesn't actually seem to be her position though.
	Sorry, I left the link, but she's now, she doesn't want 600 illegals put in her particular constituency on the army base.
	The funny thing is, she said in the letter, she made sure to say, I'm concerned about both the welfare of the 600 male asylum seekers and the locals, by the way.
	Yes.
	But anyway, allow me to talk about the quality of the facilities for a long time.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Are you sure you're not just trying to sort of add in a little tidbit there so you don't get absolutely caned publicly?
	Right.
	So then we had this banger from Rupert where he just said, we need to create such a hostile and unwelcoming environment for illegal migrants that the vast majority just deport themselves.
	And obviously, what's more as well, there are many other such hostile measures.
	And not even hostile, but just measures that don't privilege the foreign, like you were saying, Dan, the amount of just money we just send to them through all the different government departments and welfare spending and translators in the NHS, just all of it just gunking up the system.
	And so it's not just that, it's obviously the legals as well.
	But this framing of a hostile environment really didn't seem to sit well with Zach Polanski in particular, who says, our entire political conversation under a Labour government has taken a huge shift to the right.
	We can't let this be normalized.
	But that is normal.
	It's just been covered up for so long.
	This is the exact point.
	This has always been the case.
	This has always been what the public want.
	They always frame this on the left, and they have done ever since Powell's day, that as if when some political representative merely speaks on an issue, actually what they're doing is creating other people who then decide to agree with them and create more and more followers.
	But that's not the case at all.
	What it is from a true representative is that they are representing the views of people within their constituency as they already exist.
	And it was that exact type of equation that led to Powell obviously crafting the rivers of blood speech because he'd heard from his local constituents in Wolverhampton that he was saying England won't be a good place for my children.
	And the thing is, Rupert didn't even say immigrants as a whole.
	He actually, in that tweet, he said illegal immigrants.
	Yes.
	So, I mean, would Zach say this about any other crime?
	If Rupert said, look, we need to make it so uncomfortable for people who steal or murder or rape or whatever, but they don't do it.
	Would he come out against that?
	I mean, it just shows his bias.
	He just wants the voters replaced.
	Yes, it's also a very condescending way of looking at things that he thinks that, okay, people just don't deduce that these people in their own neighborhoods and these stories they hear from their own local newspapers, they don't recognize the patterns.
	It's just because of politicians.
	Everything is top-down, and people can't look with their own eyes at the problems and say, actually, I want these people gone.
	No, it's pretty easy to deduce that.
	And I think it's a chicken or egg situation.
	Obviously, Rupert is fantastic.
	But the reason he's skyrocketed to the place he is is because there's a massive appetite for politicians like him from the public in the first place.
	They've got it around the wrong way.
	The reason Rupert Lowe has the position in politics that he does is because people want him there.
	And it's not because he's convinced a large number of people that his views are important, although I don't doubt there's some degree of that going on.
	But I think the public had already made up their mind to a certain extent.
	I absolutely agree with you.
	But I also think that it's interesting framing here where he basically says under a Labour government, because the point is, right, that the Labour government have gotten into power and gone, okay, we kind of got in on the women of fluke because the Tories just totally collapsed.
	And we do actually have to govern over a nation that is at this point, well, totally against illegal immigration, but also just highly anti-migrant generally.
	And Zach Polanski thinks that the problem here is that Labour just haven't made the case hard enough.
	That all of these people could actually have their minds changed to become gay race Green Party communists if they were just willing to put the case forward.
	And so that's what we're having now.
	We're having those on the far left meeting those on the moderate right and just basically because they actually realize one, they don't have the numbers if it comes to a general election.
	So they have to at least convince a few people for all, you know, for all we say about democracy.
	They are going to actually have to persuade some voters to change their mind if they're going to have any chance of forming a government or a coalition or whatever they do.
	But what's more as well, it's going to be impossible because we are going to have, and this is just a state of it, leading up to the next election, there are going to be many, many times that we are inevitably going to report on the latest migrant stabbing, the latest murder, the latest atrocity, right?
	The situation in England is only going one way.
	And this guy is just saying, don't believe your lying eyes.
	We can still convince you.
	You can't, Zach.
	It's a fool's errand.
	Well, the fate of the Green Party relies on their sort of pet people, pet migrants in the country behaving themselves and not committing heinous crimes, which we know are becoming increasingly, you know, severe.
	The police are increasingly having less and less capacity and political will to deal with it.
	Of course, it's not going to get any better.
	The trend is already ramping up very much so already.
	So their days aren't numbered.
	So when you have here, his exclusive, Zach Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn slam Rupert Lowe's utterly repulsive and deeply un-British social media comments.
	By deeply un-British, I assume they just mean not totally suicidal.
	Right.
	Not just resigning Britain to a state of suicide as it's existed in for several decades now.
	Actually remembering that, you know what?
	British people used to have some actual self-worth and dignity and didn't like to be taken advantage of by every Tom Dick and Harry.
	So when the Vikings and the Normans turned up, we just said, oh, come on in, we'll build you some houses.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Oh, hang on a minute.
	No, we didn't.
	We fought them tooth and nail, didn't we?
	Yeah.
	And so Jeremy Corbyn, the former Labour leader, who is now establishing a new left-wing political party, also hit out at Lowe's comments, branding them utterly repulsive.
	He told Left Foot Forward, this is an utterly repulsive incitement of hatred.
	The hostile environment was a shameful period for this country, and it is beyond disgusting that a sitting MP would call for its return.
	We're at a dangerous moment in this country.
	We need an alternative that will defend the humanity of migrants and refugees and build an inclusive society for all.
	It's not for everyone, though.
	Yes.
	It's for British people.
	And your disgust only makes me like it more.
	Right.
	Like, you're not people I care whose condemnation of me, you know, it's not significant to me.
	I don't care.
	You know, you calling me disgusting or, you know, for supporting these things or Rupert Lowe disgusting.
	No one cares anymore.
	It's about having a future, about being safe, about your children's future.
	So nasty words, not going to do anything anymore.
	No, absolutely.
	And, you know, Rupert here, this is just a perfect template for how to respond to them, which is just to say that Zach Polanski says I should be absolutely condemned, calling it nasty and cruel.
	Jeremy Corbyn says utterly okay, lads, if you say so.
	I'm very much of the view that allowing hundreds of thousands of unvetted young men from cultures that actively hate women and doors to roam our streets is absolutely mental.
	Do I think that placing unchecked Eritreans and Afghan men into communities all around the country is a good idea, funding the hotels and pocket money?
	No, no, I do not.
	And he just goes on to totally dismiss it.
	And this is the thing that as well.
	A Tory would have ceded to at least their framing.
	Right.
	We're not doing that anymore.
	We're not doing that.
	We're right.
	You're wrong.
	You don't have the mandate to do this to us.
	And everything that you thought you knew.
	Because ultimately, they are fighting a war against human nature itself.
	That is what they're actually trying to do here.
	They're trying to reorganize a human mind so that it can find it agreeable that you can just send your children around the corner.
	And yes, they may get stabbed walking past a migrant hotel or whatever.
	But in the name of these grander ideals, it's all just fine.
	You can't do this.
	This is, like I say, a total fool's errand.
	And more than being foolish, it happens to be evil.
	But as to what you were saying earlier on about them just basically their own voters as well, you can see here that actually what we're going to have in some way is a total rerun of what just recently happened with the American election, where it was a case that, look, for all of Trump's flaws and problems with the MA movement, the Republicans had to win that election.
	Because if they didn't win that election, the Democrats were basically just going to give amnesty, mass amnesty to the illegals and basically have an entire new voter base.
	Well, talking about 10 million, possibly 20 million people came in under Biden, and the point is it was trending up.
	So if Camela Harris had won, I mean, you could be at 30 million by now, 50 million.
	Absolutely.
	They would guarantee their political future for the rest of their entire careers, wouldn't they?
	And that means lots of money for them.
	I mean, look, you've got it here in their country.
	Well, yep, just coming to it.
	The Green Party is saying it, treat all migrants as if they're citizens.
	So basically, I mean, it is just naked importing vote.
	Oh, they say it again on the next line.
	Yeah.
	All residents, the right.
	It's about as naked and transparent as humanly possible.
	Can see the thread of their thoughts in their own numbered system here.
	It's unbelievable.
	Number one is more of it.
	Number two is treat them, they're the cut to the point, give them the right to vote, bring families together, so bring more voters, dismantle the hope, so dismantle any check against anyone coming in, no matter how criminal.
	And then, yeah, and then you're just going to get absolutely flooded with replacement voters.
	Every single illegal that arrives in Dover is going to just be a Green Party voter.
	That's what we're coming to.
	We're just coming to the American election.
	Dismantle the Home Office is as insane as defund the police, if not more so in many ways.
	Because at least, you know, I agree, it's broken, but yeah.
	I mean, I'm all for getting rid of most of the government, but the Home Office is sort of important.
	It does actually have an important role, which is, you know, enforcing the border and making sure things run properly.
	Right.
	And so when we compare the Green Party's policy, and again, this is a party that's likely in many places to do better than Labour.
	But we compare that to the much more sensible policy that we had here hosted by Harrison Pitt when he went through the mass departations policy paper that they at Restore have been creating.
	And I think that it would lead to a much more harmonious society, much less murder, much less criminality, and really just more of an idea of the England that we would like to live in.
	The kind of England, we might say, that this chap here would actually have felt at home in, if only the poor man could have had it in his own time.
	You can't create civilization without standards.
	And if you don't enforce standards, you don't have a civilization.
	And that's exactly what we're seeing play out at the minute.
	But the fact of the matter is that people can realize that Rupert is popular, right?
	He may, and he's just an independent MP.
	But the fact that you've had this coordinated strike on him from Polanski, from Corbyn, shows that they recognize the scope of Rupert's power, his influence, right?
	And not only that, the talent that he's actually cultivating around him as well, the next generation who are going to carry on this fight for the soul of England, which is really what it is here.
	And so I would just encourage people to ruin Corbyn's mourning.
	Go sign up, go join Restore Britain, because they're doing really, really good work.
	And what's more as well, part of the problem with the consensus that we've had for so long is that the establishment has wanted to keep out perfectly sensible voices such as your own and such as Bose, right?
	With just a party-like reform.
	And so here with Restore is a place where your voice can actually matter, where your concern about your own children, your concern about just the future that they are going to inherit will be taken more seriously.
	And so I would encourage people to go and join Restore.
	But as I say, eventually the fight is going to come between the far left and just everybody else.
	And when it comes, the victory needs to be total.
	And you need to get to a position, really, where to merely suggest that you are pro-immigration, pro-mass immigration, or anything of the kind is basically just a socially unacceptable opinion.
	Right.
	Because of everything that we've been through.
	And so, yeah, I just end with that.
	All right.
	I'll just quickly go through these rumble rants.
	Just going to make sure my laptop's plugged and it's slowly dying.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Sigilstone 17 says, why do people feel bad for that old guy?
	He's the one who sold the country down the river for the pension social security.
	Don't have sympathy with the devil.
	I don't know who he's referring to, but the old guy.
	I assume he means the old.
	I'm not sure that's.
	I think that's deeply unreasonable, Sigilstone, to be honest with you.
	Ultimately, there are many, many people in this country who were kept out of power, right?
	And ultimately, what's more as well, it's not even just a case of this country.
	This has happened all over Europe.
	It's happening all over the West.
	It is more coordinated than any average citizen could have really fought back against at the time.
	I'm not saying it was meant to happen.
	That's not what I'm saying at all.
	But what I am saying is there is very little that man could have done.
	And ultimately, he put his life on the line at D-Day.
	And it's not his fault that he was betrayed by an establishment.
	Fic Tagius says, the left will cry, refugees are welcome here, but not in their areas, not in their schools, and not in their homes.
	Yes, but the problem is that the more they let in, the more that eventually it is going to reach their neighborhoods and their schools.
	So they will either have to change or will have to endanger their own constituents.
	Sigilstone says, you ever hear of the experiment of a couple that raised a baby chimp along with a human baby to see if it became smarter?
	Why bring it up?
	No reason.
	Cranky Texan says migration is driven by the super governmental technocratic elites, the ones who control the currency.
	Mass migration is part of a planned obsolescence, sorry, of the petro dollar.
	Politicians can only do so much.
	And Felius of Malice says we need a report on this, Nigel's Intergovernmental Generational Environment report.
	Right, I'll take a look.
	I'll need to look at that.
	I've not heard about that yet.
	And Gimlius son of Goines in YouTube says, easier solution, stop the benefits and they'll leave.
	It's literally just one switch that needs to be flipped.
	It's a few more things, but that is a main switch.
	Bay Stape says Josh needs to stop talking like that, leave some girls for the rest of us.
	I'm sorry, Baystape.
	I'll try and direct some your way.
	And you've also got five pounds for lozenges.
	Look, look at the one above.
	Somebody sent us five pounds for the Alcohol, sir.
	There you go.
	Right, now we just need the 60p for pork scratch.
	Even our economic sorted.
	It is indeed.
	Walk off early after the podcast.
	Luke Stewart says, Good day, everyone.
	Hope you guys are doing well.
	You too.
	Yes, I thought this would take longer because you guys don't have compulsory voting.
	So people who become disillusioned just don't vote unless we forget.
	And DeViram says, What was that about a shit post?
	My entire segment.
	All right, well, we'll get to that in just a moment.
	But it's your segment first, Dan.
	Yeah, if I could have some links, that'd be lovely.
	What do they mean?
	We heard that.
	I read it, but I don't understand.
	So let's talk about the world's first trillionaire.
	But before we get to that, let's just have a look at this silly woman.
	So this is Judge Kathleen McCormack.
	She was the judge who overturned Elon Musk's pay deal.
	We covered that whenever it was six months ago or something like that.
	So Elon Musk, he managed to take Tesla's market value from $55 billion to $650 billion.
	So he made Tesla $600 billion.
	Do you know how much he got paid for it?
	Minimum wage.
	Yes, basically nothing.
	Yes.
	He got paid minimum wage for it thanks to this woman.
	Basically, because the Tesla shareholders had a deal with Elon, which is if you create enormous amounts of upside, you can have a small percentage of it.
	And she basically decided that no, no, you can't, and she stopped it.
	She did, however, award the lawyers who brought the blocking action a third of a billion.
	Pure friend enemy, then?
	Yes.
	Pure friend enemy.
	Now, it is interesting in her case.
	She's an example because, I mean, since then, it's basically demonstrated that in Delaware, it is no longer the case that what the shareholders vote for is what they get.
	It's what a lefty liberal judge gets.
	And so you've had Andreessen Horowitz, you've had TripAdvisor, Dropbox, Merka Libra, which is a huge South American e-commerce firm.
	Roblox, Figma, OpenAI, a rumored to go.
	They're all flocking out of Delaware.
	So basically, a system that took 100 years to build was ruined in the space of the afternoon by one spiteful liberal woman.
	So anyway, that is worth recapping on because a new pay deal has been agreed.
	So he's basically said, okay, look, fair enough.
	Oh, look, we've got the pork scratchings.
	Thank you.
	Winning.
	So he said, all right, fair enough.
	I'll swallow having worked the last 10 years for minimum wage, but for the next 10 years, if I massively increase value, I want 14% of the upside.
	And shareholders have again gone, yep, absolutely.
	Yeah, we're doing that deal.
	Brilliant.
	But, oh dear, my box isn't working.
	Let's try the...
	I had this problem earlier.
	If you just unplug it and plug it back in.
	You try that.
	You try the article.
	If that actually works.
	Yeah, the Guardian, not wildly happy with this arrangement.
	I'll read you a little bit of what they've had to say on the subject because, of course, they're impartial journalists thinking level-headed about it.
	The salt mine has opened.
	The salt mine has indeed opened.
	Musk's staggering compensation is comparative with the GDP of entire countries, exceeding that of Ireland, Sweden and Argentina.
	It vastly exceeds federal funding for entire government programs, such as the cost of snapped food benefits and dwarfs that of other tech moguls, such as Mark Zuckerberg.
	Elon Musk just got a trillion for failure.
	Sales are down, safety risks are up, and his politics are driving customers away.
	This isn't leadership.
	This is the world's most expensive participation trophy.
	So, yes, not wildly...
	No, not glowing.
	Not...
	Not glowing.
	No, they don't seem to pay for this.
	I definitely would trust Elon to spend that money on productive things for humanity, America, the West, far more than I would most government treasuries.
	Yes, or indeed the Guardian.
	Yes.
	I'll have a quick scroll down to the bottom of the article.
	So what, where they're begging for money?
	Yeah, where they're begging, oh, I've lost my mouse.
	Oh, it's on the left.
	Oh, there you go.
	There we go.
	Let's get down to it.
	There's always a bit at the bottom where it's like, oh, here we go.
	Give us money.
	The Guardian literally just doing the...
	Yes, because despite getting a massive endowment from some, whatever it was, 19th century industrialist, they can't make money every year.
	They've never turned a profit.
	No, they've never turned a profit.
	But no, of course they're going to have a pop at Musk.
	This guy is also a nice example of it.
	In fact, before I go any further, let's just click on the profile picture.
	There we go.
	So this Fedora wearing soy face.
	His take.
	His take is Elon threatens to rage quit Tesla if he doesn't get his $1 trillion payday.
	And they've got a picture of a crying Elon.
	I mean, question to you, Joe.
	If the deal was that you get to work for another 10 years for minimum wage, would you do it?
	I mean, I think Musk can command a higher salary than minimum wage somewhere else.
	So there is that.
	And his brilliant take was, I suggest that General Motors Mary Barra should replace him.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Let's just examine that claim, Shari.
	So Mary Barra of General Motors, over the last five years, the stock is down 9%.
	Okay.
	At Tesla, it's up 225%.
	So no, I don't think Mary Barra is the right replacement.
	I mean, this shows just how bloody difficult it is to actually make money with electric vehicles.
	Basically, nobody apart from Tesla has ever done it.
	So all of these companies up and down here, a whole bunch of Chinese firms and Ford and Rivian and General Motors and all the rest, they've all had a go at trying to do electric cars.
	And, well, they can't, not without losing money hand over fist.
	Well, I think part of the problem is that a lot of them are pre-existing petrol or diesel manufacturers.
	And to be able to make these sorts of cars, as I understand it, this is sort of almost a lay view of it.
	But it's a production of scale thing.
	Tesla pretty much only makes electric cars and therefore they can do it quite well.
	Whereas if you make a combination of both, it's harder to make both work right.
	Because you can still turn a profit on petrol or diesel cars.
	I know that the government's trying to disincentivize people buying them, but there's certainly a market for them and people do want them and they can be profitable.
	As far as I understand at least.
	Well, I mean, a finely detailed point, but the cars themselves aren't that profitable, but the after sales are.
	And that's effectively where the margin's been driven to on traditional cars.
	But the other thing about traditional cars is because they had been eking out that next dollar for so long now, they basically outsourced everything apart from like the drive shaft and the engine.
	They kept the core value bits and everything else was just imported and assembled in the factory.
	Well, it's the everything else are the only bits that translate over to EVs because of course they don't use engines and drive shafts.
	So the only bit that these companies have expertise in is the bit that you don't need anymore, which is slightly unfortunate.
	And that's perhaps why they can't get it to work for them.
	But I mean, actually, the Elon pay deal, it's essentially if he adds $7 trillion to Tesla's valuation, he gets to keep a trillion of it.
	Now, that's why Mary Barra, if you offered her this deal, she wouldn't take it.
	Because, I mean, I wouldn't take this pay deal of Elon's, because the deal is essentially you work for the next 10 years and you get minimum wage unless you achieve some absolutely astonishingly difficult targets and then you get a trillion.
	It's like, well, I couldn't deliver 7 trillion of value and therefore I would get paid minimum wage and I would do it.
	Mary Barrow wouldn't do it because she would get minimum wage.
	There's basically no one on earth with the exception of Elon Musk and maybe a handful of two other, but you could count them on one hand who could pull this off.
	Especially when you consider as well all the other Gargan Schwan projects that Elon actually has with SpaceX and X and the other things that take up his time.
	Casually running the government as well.
	Right.
	Yeah, all these sort of small little tasks.
	Doge of his side quest, as he put it.
	But I mean, just think of, if anyone's boss came to them and said, look, I've got a brilliant idea.
	I'm going to pay you a trillion pounds.
	You'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm listening.
	He says, all you need to do is deliver to me $7 trillion in value and you can keep one of them.
	Otherwise, you're getting minimum wage.
	Nobody is accepting that deal.
	So it is actually quite a remarkable deal.
	But the essential problem is, is that the left cannot imagine how somebody can have something without stealing it from somebody else.
	And that comes to our leftist section.
	So this guy, I won't click on the profile picture for this one because it's equally as hideous as the last one.
	This guy's saying, well, he could end homelessness then.
	Great.
	Why?
	I can guarantee that if you put a trillion dollars into homelessness program, you would end up with considerably more homeless.
	Well, also, the problem isn't the lack of money.
	It's the behaviours that lead them to be on the streets in the first place.
	Yes.
	And mainly substance abuse, right?
	Yes.
	But I mean, yeah, but yeah, but if you put that much money into homeless programmes, they would go around and create as many new homeless as they possibly could.
	One way of doing it is if you give the money directly to the homeless and then they would all die quickly.
	Yes, they would.
	Yes.
	I mean, the interesting point is this.
	I mean, the leftists are always going on about fair share.
	If everybody actually paid their fair share in taxes, and you can see it from this chart here, what it would actually mean is that the rich pay a lot less tax and the poor pay a lot more.
	That's what fair share actually means.
	You can see the disportion.
	You know, the bottom 10% pay 2% of taxes.
	The top 1% pay 46% of all taxes.
	Astronomical.
	Yes.
	And also, the people who are the most economically productive and earn the most money, most of the time at least, tend to be the people who are most savvy with their money and are most useful to have money in their hands in the economy because they know how to, you know, put it into places that are actually productive and useful.
	Well, normally they're creating jobs.
	Exactly.
	I mean, that's a big part of it.
	This guy I thought was interesting.
	He describes himself as an economist, analyst, and journalist.
	And he's got 300,000 followers on Twitter.
	And he was getting confused because he was saying, look, Tesla has 7 billion of net income.
	They can't afford to pay him a trillion.
	This is really, really stupid and defies basic maths and reality itself.
	None of these guys are getting that he hasn't just been paid a trillion in cash.
	He's going to get share options worth a trillion after he makes Tesla $6 trillion.
	But no, they simply cannot get their head.
	The left genuinely thinks that it is this.
	It's basically just a stock of cash.
	And for those of you who are at least older millennials, you might even remember this.
	Of course.
	Scrooge McDuck.
	I mean, that is genuinely how the left thinks money works.
	That it's just a big vault somewhere.
	It's always bugged me this because he would almost certainly break his neck diving.
	Yes.
	Gold is dense.
	I thought about diving into pits of gold many times and it just wouldn't work.
	No, no, it wouldn't.
	But also, their understanding of how being either a multi-millionaire or a billionaire is so misguided because they think that they just have it in a vault somewhere.
	Like it's Harry Potter or something.
	Stored in 50,000 wallets.
	Exactly.
	Or like actual gold coins in a secretive vault somewhere when actually it's normally tied up in assets because that's how you do it.
	Yeah, that's how you deal with money in an intelligent way is you reinvest it to beat things like inflation, right?
	Because if you have it just sat somewhere, it's just depreciating in value.
	That's stupid.
	I mean, this is the thing.
	In order to become a trillionaire, you have to provide so much value to billions of people, millions of people at least, that your small part of that, But it's an enormous amount of value that you created.
	And no, they don't get it.
	MSP, so Scottish Member of Parliament, Gillian Macquerie, thinks that trillionaires shouldn't exist.
	Even the idea is utterly obscene.
	But you don't get to be a trillionaire unless you provide enormous value.
	So if you're in Zimbabwe, you've got to be considerably poorer.
	Well, yes.
	I mean, that's a good point.
	If people like Gillian were in charge, actually everybody would probably be a trillionaire.
	Because of inflation.
	And impoverished at the same time.
	Yes.
	But no, of course, she doesn't understand that.
	The Green Party.
	Tesla have approved a 1 trillion pay packet for Elon Musk.
	That's 20 billion times more than a nurse in the UK earns.
	Don't let anyone tell you immigrants or disabled people are the problem.
	It's the richest 1% hoarding all the wealth.
	Not hoarding it.
	It's underneath Elon's bed.
	He's just got a really big bed.
	And also, bear in mind, this is the party that has a decent shot of becoming the next government of the UK and being in charge of our national finance.
	And their maths are out by 1,000%.
	It's not 20 billion times more than a nurse's.
	It's 20 million times more than a nurse.
	It was hilarious seeing all the reactions to this.
	It was just, it's like, wow, not only are you economically illiterate, you're also innumerate as well.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	In one tweet.
	It's amazing how much stupidity they could get into such a concise format.
	And look, there is a reason for it as well.
	If you got together 20 million nurses, you wouldn't end up with a colony on Mars or reusable rockets or self-aware robots.
	So, I mean, that's the reason.
	So wouldn't, you know, basically a third of the population of the UK have to be nurses now.
	Yes, all fusedly working on that Mars colony.
	Don't think of it.
	And the bizarre thing about it is, this whole lefty narrative is that Elon Musk is the largest taxpayer in all of human history.
	I mean, he paid $11 billion in one go once.
	Ouch.
	I mean, he's and on top of that, his various companies, I mean, they're paying billions and billions more in taxes.
	And his employees, he's got 140,000 employees, all of them on quite good salaries.
	All of those are paying taxes as well.
	So this guy is funding vast amounts of the federal government.
	But no, they're just upset that he might get a trillion in stock options.
	They don't understand that.
	They all think he's just been paid it.
	Compare that to a politician.
	How much is the Labour Party leader really worth?
	So here we've got a lifelong socialist, I mean, more than a socialist, a Fabian, who believes that money should be taken from the rich and redistributed.
	So let's have a quick check out how much this guy is worth.
	There we go, about 7.7 million.
	And actually, when you include land and property, it's probably around 10 to 15 million.
	Very convenient, isn't it?
	Yes.
	Maybe you should think about redistributing some of that.
	Well, I suspect he won't.
	But yes.
	I'll quickly run you through the list of Labour Cabinet top wealths.
	So Kier Starmid is 7.6 7.7, like I say, not taking into account land and property and that kind of stuff.
	Angela Raynor, 4.4 million.
	She started out in a council house as well.
	Yeah, so and I wonder how she managed to get that on her salary.
	Maybe she's been inventing stuff on the side.
	Wasn't she 16 and pregnant at one point in a council house?
	And to 4.4 million, she must be phenomenally intelligent and good at business.
	Maybe she's doing lots and lots of overtime at Westminster.
	Maybe, possibly.
	Just really hardworking, I'm sure.
	Rachel Reeves, she's the lowest on our list with only 2 million.
	Now, I mean, that makes sense because she's economically illiterate and she is, of course, a chancellor.
	of course she's the lowest on the list um but but still how did she i mean her her understanding of money is incredibly backward How did she end up with 2 million?
	I don't know.
	It's to call up Nancy Pelosi.
	She's an expert investor.
	Well, she's ahead of all the markets.
	She just seems to know which stocks to invest in before anyone else.
	Yeah.
	It's phenomenal, right?
	David Lammy, 5 million.
	How did David Lammy end up with 5 million?
	Yvette Cooper, 4.5 million.
	And Ed Milliband, 15 million.
	at least i understand where he got his money from because it's inherited but the rest of them um and and i'll just like to ask this question Can you imagine if politicians' compensation packages were only payout on deliverables?
	You know, here's the benefit of it.
	That's a wonderful turn of events, wouldn't it?
	Because politicians would just leave office bankrupt almost every time.
	Yes.
	Great.
	Well, up until the 1920s, members of parliament in Britain weren't paid.
	You did it for free.
	The idea, of course, was that you were already elderly, successful.
	You'd been out into the world.
	You understood basic economics.
	How to create wealth.
	And then as a means of giving back to the community, you would for free use that expertise to represent them.
	But now, of course, what we have is an MP's salary being about 80,000 a year.
	So actually what you're doing is you're just going straight from university and going, oh, 80,000 quid a year.
	That's costly.
	That'll set me up as a nice thing just straight after uni or after going through the party system for a bit.
	And so they just don't have the worldly expertise of the older class of member of parliament that we used to have.
	100%.
	So, I mean, the quick details on this plan, so it's 100% stock option.
	There's not a penny in cash.
	And it's 15 tranches that he needs to hit.
	And they're all really ambitious, things like driving up profits and cash flow and all the rest of it.
	It could raise his stake from about 15% to about 25%.
	And the reason he says he wants that is because he has always been concerned about AI.
	And if he's going to create an AI company, he wants to have control because, quite frankly, he's a bit concerning.
	He thinks they're probably going to kill us all.
	But since they're coming anyway, he might have control.
	We all know what's coming.
	Yes.
	He needs to raise Tesla's market cap from about 1.3 trillion to 8.5.
	That's huge as well.
	I mean, it's enormous.
	It's very ambitious.
	I mean, the rise is more than any company's worth at the moment.
	So it is an extraordinarily ambitious plan.
	And that's why if anyone else in the world was offered this compensation scheme, unless you can't do better than minimum wage, you should turn it down.
	It is a remarkable thing he's trying to go for.
	Oh, and plus, it's dependent on putting out in main fashion self-driving cars and robot butlers.
	So if he gets paid this trillion, you'll have a car that will drive you to work and a robot butler who will do your laundry for you.
	So, I mean, I kind of like that world.
	And of a robot nurse as well, so we don't have to give her.
	Yes.
	Well, go on.
	As long as they don't stab you.
	Shareholders.
	Well, I mean, that's the other thing.
	I mean, the UK government, because they don't want to do re-migration, their only other choice is to get one of these robots to basically walk around the immigrants all day long to make sure they don't stab anyone.
	So, I mean, the British government should be a big fire of cousins.
	You might suggest.
	The robots keeping them away from the horses at horse guards, just pushing them away.
	Of course, even though shareholders backed it three to one, some of the investment groups didn't like it.
	Institutionals, you know, ISS, Glass Lewis, etc., were calling it excessive and it entrenches must control and all this kind of stuff.
	The people who came out against most strongly were the ESG types.
	Now, ESG, I mean, I'll ask you those at home, what do you think ESG is all about?
	I mean, I think everyone's understanding of it is, well, it's obviously environmental, social and governance.
	It's one of those green schemes, isn't it?
	It's one of those schemes where you make sure that companies are environmental.
	I'll tell you what they really are.
	It's a way of laundering oil companies to make them investable after you've brought in an eco-mentalist mindset.
	So I'll give you this.
	These are the ESG scores for ExxonMobile.
	It's 43.
	The ESG score for Chevron, big oil company, 30.
	The ESG score for Tesla, which makes electric cars, 24.
	I wonder if there's a political element to this by any chance.
	There is a bit of that.
	So, yeah, I mean, it's the extraordinary thing that he has to do.
	So, the last time he had one of these pay schemes would have been about back here, and he took the share price from about, yeah, so from something about 12 pence up to $12 up to $445.
	And if he collects on his trillion, that share price will be north of $2,500.
	So, it's a pretty nice return.
	So, this brings me ultimately to my concluding point.
	And you might think I'm going at a little bit of a tangent when you watch this, but you'll see where I get to.
	Let me just play you this.
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	Does anyone see where I'm going with this yet?
	I don't like that.
	It's a bit unnerving.
	But where am I going with this?
	I want to clone Elon Musk.
	I'm not joking, by the way.
	This Viagen Pets is in Austin, Texas.
	It's just down the road from him.
	Here we go.
	Let's dig into it.
	There's a bit on dogs.
	I thought that was where you were going, but I thought surely not.
	We've got to wait a long time as well until Elon Musk grows up and there's a lot of time and investment in his education.
	Ah.
	Unless big Elon looks after little Elon as a sort of protege.
	Mini Elon.
	Then we have a perpetual cycle of Elon Musks.
	Josh, you're not thinking big enough.
	You're thinking thousands of years, aren't you?
	No.
	No, I'm thinking my army.
	I am thinking thousands of Elon Musks.
	So my plan is, and I am deadly serious about this, by the way, is that we clone Elon Musk thousands and thousands of time and give one to every town in the Western world.
	Now, Elon Musk had a quite unique upbringing.
	He didn't get on with his father at all.
	His father was an electrical engineer and very harsh and wasn't a people person.
	So growing up, Elon basically had nothing to do.
	He talks about being incredibly bored a lot, and he just used to sit there reading electrical engineering books to pass the time when he was a little kid.
	When he was a young teenager, he was almost beaten to his death by a group of youths because he had white skin.
	So there are various other things that have shaped him over the years.
	And it would be a little bit unethical to try and replicate that exactly.
	So I think you need to throw the dice.
	You need tens of thousands of them.
	One in every town.
	Just randomly assign them to people and just see what turns up 30 years later.
	Now, if you do this plan, I have to admit, you will get the occasional supervillain.
	But hopefully, on balance, you'll get a lot of good stuff out of it as well.
	What about the sort of humane aspect of sending a young Elon, you know, young cloned Elon to somewhere like Bradford?
	Yeah, what about young Elon's human rights?
	No, Bradford should get one as well.
	Even Bradford should get one.
	Just randomly assign him, see what happens, could possibly change the world for the future.
	So as far as I'm concerned, well done, Elon.
	I hope you do make that trillion because I'm a Tesla shareholder and you're going to make me quite a lot of money if you do.
	So yes, well done.
	Carry on, sir.
	Another Elons for Eons.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let's have a look at the comedy comments.
	Any more pock scratchings for us?
	How did I make the cranky Texan says, if not for enormous government contracts, there'd be far fewer billionaires in the world.
	The left wants more and bigger government.
	They drive what they claim to hate.
	Spot on, yes.
	Yeah, I mean, of course, the left doesn't have any problems with George Solos or Bill Gates or all the rest of it.
	Oh, there's one for me there.
	Can Josh do us a favour, lean into the mic and say, where are the other drugs going?
	There you go.
	Good Batman reference there.
	I wasn't going to do it too loud.
	Squad Blatt says we heard that.
	I don't know what you're referring to.
	No, we don't know either.
	Okay, I don't understand these comments.
	We're all good.
	So we're, yes, we carry on.
	Well, Josh.
	May I help it?
	A bit difficult otherwise, wouldn't it?
	No hands.
	All segment.
	The no hands segment.
	I need to also find it on my laptop.
	There we go.
	Well, that's interesting.
	They've removed it.
	Oh, no.
	That's perfect.
	Your segment derailed because of the online safety bill, Josh.
	It's not.
	So my segment is about how you shouldn't mess with India because, unlike many other countries, people from India are very, very defensive of some very, very light criticism and they will try and ruin your life.
	And I'm going to showcase this as well as show the power you can have in the online ecosystem to basically ruin someone's life for very little if you so choose.
	And it's sort of worrying, but there's also multiple layers here of wow, this is a weird cultural thing.
	Why are you doing this?
	Also, India, this isn't going to make people warm to you if you harass them to the point of ruining their life.
	Being very sensitive and trying to ruin people and being horrible to them doesn't make them think, you know what?
	I want to go to India.
	So what I'm going to be talking about is this guy here, Tyler Oliveira, I think his name is.
	I don't know.
	I've never heard of him until this debacle.
	He released a video teaser, which has been mass reported and now restricted Talking about that poo festival where they all throw poo at each other in South India.
	It's just one small village in India.
	It doesn't happen anywhere else.
	Yeah, we don't have one small village that engages in this ritual, do we?
	Shall I check with Grok?
	Is there a village in the Cotswolds that they just throw poo at each other?
	By the way, do they do this all year long?
	No, no, it's just a specific festival.
	We'll get into the details.
	Okay, fine.
	Okay.
	So he also wrote this, which due to local laws, we can't show because it's been mass reported by Indians again.
	But he said, happy Dwali.
	Yes, I went to India's poop throwing festival.
	It was the poopiest experience of my life.
	I'll never go back.
	Please pray I survive.
	Which, to be fair, doesn't necessarily invite warm wishes to you.
	But what he did do was awaken the national press.
	Here is the New York Post talking about it.
	Of course, he was branded racist for going to this.
	For going to India and observing Indians doing Indian.
	Not only observing it, partaking in it, filming it in, as we will see.
	Oh, so it was quite a respectful way, actually.
	So you can be racist.
	He's not making anything up.
	He's just simply highlighting a thing that actually happens.
	He went to a place and filmed something that happens in a sort of slightly YouTube slop documentary way.
	And he didn't really, other than making some jokes about it being poopy.
	Who wouldn't?
	Sort of puns, he wasn't being mean about it necessarily.
	It was just one of those videos that people make because it will get good engagement.
	And they definitely did.
	So here is Sky News Australia talking about it.
	So from the US, Australia.
	Here's the Hindustan Times.
	India itself reported on it.
	There he is, look, in a hazmat suit and goggles, whilst the rest of them doing it properly, of course.
	Nothing but trousers on.
	Even barefoot.
	You're not actually allowed to wear shoes, which was one of the revelations that I got watching this is that you've got to do it barefoot.
	So I have questions at this point.
	First of all, what kind of poo are they throwing around?
	Cow.
	They're throwing around cow poo.
	Yes.
	In India.
	Yes.
	Okay, so my second follow-on question is going to be, I know cows are sacred in India.
	How sacred is the poo?
	We'll get to that.
	Right.
	There's a wonderful answer to that question soon enough.
	Don't you worry.
	So what he did do was publish his blood test after the fact.
	He spent $5,000 apparently.
	And I think that's probably very wise.
	But people got upset about this.
	And also, apparently, this is around the time he came back from recording it, only released recently.
	He also fell sick despite eating in only five-star hotels.
	And everyone was saying, well, that's racist.
	You're perpetuating misinformation about India.
	But he was saying that actually, when they investigated why he fell sick, because it's with Salmonella, the five-star hotel was sourcing its eggs from a chicken coop right next to a massive pile of rubbish or trash.
	And so these chickens were digging through rubbish to eat and laying their eggs.
	And that was at a five-star hotel.
	So obviously these are problems.
	And if these problems emerged in Britain, we wouldn't say how dare people point them out.
	We would say, wow, are we really going down that badly that even our five-star hotels are poisoning people?
	That's terrible.
	We agree.
	That's awful.
	And the same in the United States or other European countries.
	If something is wrong, we would say, okay, that's terrible.
	And in fact, this podcast is living proof of that because we complain about Britain all of the time.
	Yes.
	It's sort of what we do.
	And so.
	Because we love it.
	Exactly.
	We can't be that sensitive about these things because these are serious infrastructural problems, serious lifestyle problems that even the best institutions you have can make people sick.
	And so what followed can only be described as a massive wave of cope.
	In response to him getting sick, Vlogger, white skin fails to withstand Indian climate, develops infection after playing with cow dung.
	I don't know why they also spelt it like that, but interesting that they talk about his white skin not being able to withstand it.
	So does melanin protect against bacterial infection?
	Also, he got sick from salmonella from eggs.
	So it wasn't even from that.
	So they're trying to say, basically, you're just weak.
	That's why you got sick.
	And then they also pointed to things like this.
	This photo isn't from India.
	It's from Woodstock 99.
	I was just about to say that.
	An American festival.
	Toilets overflowed.
	Attendees broke water and toilet pipes.
	People thought they were jumping in mud.
	And it was actually sewage mixed with human waste.
	Dozens were hospitalized.
	And then they say multiple reports of sexual assault were filed.
	Maybe make a documentary about this first.
	But what happened here, that was crimes, which went punished.
	Obviously awful, yes.
	No one was trying to say that wasn't a problem.
	But also, they didn't realize they were jumping into poop.
	They thought it was a problem.
	And they didn't do it again every year.
	No.
	But oh, that was fun.
	I'll have to give that another try next year.
	Same time next year.
	Really like getting hospitalized.
	And then they shared this video, this did quite well, of people in the United States in a cow dung throwing competition in Beaver, Oklahoma.
	But as you can see from the videos, this isn't wet cow dung.
	This has been sun-dried, so it's rock solid.
	Yes.
	So at the end of it, you don't have cow dung covering you and your entire body.
	I can't see anyone covered in poo.
	Not one.
	They probably even let them wear their shoes.
	Well, yes.
	Granted, it's not the most sanitary thing.
	I will concede that.
	But it's not quite the same.
	It's not a great look, Oklahoma, but we'll let it slide.
	It looks like they're rock solid because they're throwing them like actual rocks.
	They're probably frozen.
	See, it's not going anywhere.
	She's still got clean hands afterwards.
	And it's different.
	They also shared this, which, you know, fair play.
	This one, you know, it is San Francisco.
	It's not all of America, but Americans do point out how bad this is.
	They say, listen, this isn't what we want.
	We don't.
	This was never a problem before.
	And also the people pooping on the streets aren't your average American.
	You're not finding a CEO going to San Francisco pulling down his trousers.
	But also, I'm fairly certain that if you criticise San Francisco for the street pooing, most Americans will be like, yeah.
	What they won't do is come after you for having insulted them because they've got a town where they poo on the street everywhere.
	And then they tried to get YouTube to basically shut his account down.
	India is YouTube's second largest market and is poised to become Google's most important market in the coming years.
	If someone cannot leverage this position to direct Google, and then he tags Neil Mohan, CEO of YouTube, and Sunda, the CEO of Google and Alphabet, from releasing of a content made with the only intention to dehumanize and incite more racism against Indians, then some other guy should step down now.
	I don't know who that is.
	So they're trying to put pressure on two other Indians here at Google and YouTube to crack down on his video.
	And here's another one where they're showing they're saying this is racist against Indians.
	And then directly beneath this post, they're showing the same thing of weird things in Europe and America, which, granted, they are weird, but we don't get angry and say it's racist if you point that out.
	I mean, I can't believe that's real.
	No, that's, um, yes.
	Maybe the next slide.
	maybe the next time shall we so um god you've been you've been online harms builder death this segment haven't you I know, it's the Indian mass report.
	Everything they can to stop this man.
	So, luckily, the post below is basically saying the same thing.
	Despite appealing, X has age-restricted several of my posts for no reason, despite ostensibly being mass reported by malignant mobs who seek to suppress the reality of the festival in India.
	I have captured an 8K resolution.
	Oh, my God.
	Great advertisement.
	But, okay, this was all a bit of fun, a bit of lightheartedness.
	But then it started getting a bit nasty.
	So he had his phone number leaked and he had non-stop phone calls from India.
	So this is like every couple of minutes he was getting calls from India.
	So his phone's basically unusable from that point.
	Because, of course, we know there are lots of Indians, lots of angry Indians, and they've got lots of time.
	And we know that they've got access to phones because they, I had one call me up today, actually.
	Really annoying.
	Anyway.
	I mean, is he absolutely sure they're going after him?
	It might just be a normal day.
	I mean, I get lots and lots of calls from Indian call centers.
	That is true, yeah.
	He might have just been unlucky that day.
	He was also getting messages talking about horrible things and just harassing him more generally.
	I'm not going to look at some of the messages because some of them are gross.
	I'm not going to show this message because it's using some violent sexual imagery talking about his family members.
	Bloody hell.
	And here's another one here.
	Be this guy.
	And then they're just making up that his family members have OnlyFans.
	And then they're making up stories about his sister having an Indian boyfriend and that's why he's doing this.
	And they're just making things up.
	And apparently this spreads quite far.
	It's got nearly 4 million views.
	Also, this account definitely outed itself.
	It's trying to pretend it's Emmanuel Kant, actually.
	The fact it's getting angry over this video sort of suggests it's run from a certain place.
	I suspect the actual Emmanuel Kant would have a different view on this.
	I would say so, actually, yeah.
	And also, they were texting him photos of white people having intimate relations, claiming that that was them with his mother and things like that.
	It got really nasty and mean and photoshopping headlines and sharing these fake headlines saying that his mum joined OnlyFans in 2019.
	And the Hindustan Times actually ran with a headline.
	Is Tyler, what's his name's mother on OnlyFans?
	US YouTube claims family is being targeted after video on Indian cowdung festival.
	So they're basically priming people to harass him further here because they're not saying it's not true because they also followed it up.
	For me, sorry, just quicker.
	The thing is as well, even if all of that is true, even if it were, it's still just total deflection from the point that this guy went to our village and just found us basically sliding in throwing shit at each other.
	Right.
	And also, it is the entry-level insult.
	You get past your mum at age six.
	And in Britain, better insults.
	Yes.
	And the Hindustan Times is doing it.
	And I did check this.
	This is a screenshot that I took.
	So it shows up in the search results.
	But if you click on it, they've changed it after there was backlash because people said, well, maybe that's not fair.
	And now it's just he responds to criticism over posts about the festival and is already getting mass reported.
	And they removed all references to his mother.
	I don't know if I can trust the Hindustan Times after this.
	I think you might be onto something there.
	But he does share a screenshot of the old body of text here where it acknowledges pretty early on in the article.
	The headline is grammatically wrong and there is no credible source suggesting this thing.
	So the claim appears to be fake, but you still wrote the article drawing attention to it, obviously with the express intention of amplifying it to encourage the harassment because it's called the Hindustan Times and it's a Hindu festival.
	I mean, you don't need to...
	All the evidence is there to work with.
	Exactly.
	And then he wrote this.
	After much consideration, I've decided not to release my documentary capturing the festival.
	I've been doxed, threatened by thousands of Indians over the last two weeks.
	Tens of thousands of Indians have turned my life into a living hell.
	My family has been attacked in ways I never would have imagined.
	Showing up to this festival was the worst decision of my life.
	I severely underestimated the power of India.
	I'm only one man.
	I cannot defeat the combined power of 1.5 billion Indians who yearn for my destruction.
	I simply cannot continue fighting this war.
	I must choose my battles and this one isn't worth it.
	Never meant to offend Indians, their religion or their culture.
	I just wanted to participate in this unusual festival and share it for the world to see.
	I ask that all Indians reading this, please leave my family alone.
	Thank you.
	Which would be very sad.
	And I gave him some words of encouragement.
	And I'd like to think that you listened to me.
	So I said, don't give in.
	Not only should you release it, you should also follow up looking at the trade in cow dung and urine sold for human consumption, which I think is a very important topic.
	And one of my favourite replies to his announcement here is Dinesh D'Souza, who, by the way, doesn't like identity politics, all of a sudden came crawling out of the woodwork to participate in some because, of course, he's gone out of his way to say, I'm an American.
	I'm American.
	And then all of a sudden, he says, how about commenting on this festival?
	It seems like the future belongs to the poop throwers and shows median household income by ethnic group showing that Asian is above white, non-Hispanic.
	Of course, this data is also fraught with mistakes.
	Interesting that when push comes to shove, even Mr. Anti-Identity Politics sides with his ethnic group.
	Interesting.
	The poop throwing group.
	Exactly.
	You'd rather have the poop throwing group.
	I mean, out of the 1.5 billion, were there any that just said, yeah, it's weird?
	I'm sure there probably were.
	But I didn't see those to give them the benefit of the doubt.
	And I'm sure India being a large place, there are many of them that were saying that sort of thing.
	And then, actually, he said, Psych India Festival video is out now.
	That was in the first half there.
	It's got enormous reach.
	It went very viral.
	And the video is up now.
	Victory.
	I'm not going to linger on the thumbnail because it's horrifying.
	Who uses it on now?
	Let's have a look, shall we?
	Damn it.
	I can't scroll down.
	Nearly 200 million views.
	In two days.
	Excellent.
	So that's a million.
	I'm sure we can have another million.
	And just to summarise the actual content of the video.
	He deliberately goes out of his way to point out that the festival is only one small South Indian town, adds a disclaimer to assertions that individuals make.
	So one villager asserted that eating cow dung reduces your risk of cancer and then proceeded to do so on camera.
	And then he asked other villagers about it and they said, no, no, we don't believe that.
	And he's like, oh, just one guy.
	And then added a disclaimer, like, not the rest of the village believes this.
	It's not all of the village.
	Which I think was fair.
	It's just this one guy.
	And then he says repeatedly in the video about 10 times how welcoming and friendly people were in the village to have him there and to allow him to participate.
	And that people were welcoming and showing him around and very enthusiastic about him being involved.
	So when he was actually there on the ground, people were happy about him being there and being interested in the festival.
	Whereas Indians online had a very different view to that.
	And a little bit about the origin of the festival.
	So I learned a lot about Hinduism watching this video.
	So the village had lots of cow dung around.
	And one day they found an idol of a lord in the cow dung.
	Somehow, it appeared divinely.
	They believed that their god, Birashiwara Shwami, also originated from cow dung, and therefore it is a manifestation of this god.
	And therefore they honour the cow dung as a manifestation of this god or deity or lord as a manifestation of the god Shiva, who you may recognise, this gentleman right here,
	which is why they believe it to be blessed, the cow dung that is, and therefore whoever takes part in the festival will not get problems such as skin disease and it's sort of good luck for them as part of it and it is part of their system of beliefs.
	And he does also point out something that I've never seen before, that after the festival, all of the people that take part plunge into a lake to clean themselves off.
	And then after they've taken this lakeside plunge, they also go home to wash themselves in their own personal facilities.
	Well, the thing that strikes me is that's all very well if you're the first person in the lake.
	If you're the last person, it's going to be probably not helping you that much.
	Very true.
	So I was going to show you the posts.
	Oh my gosh.
	But they've been mass reported.
	Doesn't matter.
	My point being that this is not how you deal with this stuff, India.
	You don't harass people and be horrible to them to make them do what you want and not talk about these things.
	The actual video itself, if you had watched it before doing these sorts of things, you'd have realised wasn't nearly as bad as people were expecting.
	He was actually quite respectful about it.
	There wasn't any making fun necessarily.
	He made some jokes about it being cowpoo.
	But, you know, that's a YouTuber and it is pretty tame considering.
	No, that's what this segment is for.
	We're the ones making fun of it.
	Exactly.
	But my main point isn't, you know, this festival strange, because I don't need to point that out.
	My point is that in this day and age, you can basically harass people to do what you want.
	And it is a worrying development because if he had not been so steadfast in publishing this, he could have actually said, listen, no, actually, I'm not going to do it.
	And bent the knee to all of this harassment.
	Because it was extensive.
	Well, when you faked the retraction, it's perfectly understandable to see why that might have been genuine.
	Everything that he was saying there.
	Because it did happen, didn't it?
	Like, he was harassed.
	I've had this before where I posted something basically rebuffing the 45 trillion owed to India from Britain for colonialism.
	And I shared some GDP figures.
	Like, listen, the number you're asking for is insane because our annual GDP is only about 3.5 million.
	You're asking for 4.5 trillion.
	And it's similar with India's.
	How can this possibly work?
	And they were like, no, no, no.
	You don't understand what GDP is.
	This is why Indians are taking your jobs.
	And it's like, well, you can't approximate the value of an entire economy.
	That's impossible to do.
	That's why I'm using GDP figures to at least give people a rough idea because that's something we do measure.
	But they were deliberately misrepresenting it.
	And they even community noted it and were harassing me for weeks for this one post just saying, yeah, we don't owe you 45 trillion, which is absurd.
	Well, along with the 13 trillion we owe Lenny Henry, I mean, we're really up against the wall of this stuff, aren't we?
	Yeah, I know.
	I mean, we'll be having to dig up the turf of the British Isles and sink it into the sea at this rate if give everyone this sort of money.
	But my point is that something really has to be done about this because you can't just harass people into doing what you want online.
	You know, leaking their phone numbers, targeting their family members.
	And it is a worrying trend.
	And although, you know, it's a humorous thing that it's happened around, this is going to be an increasingly big problem as people rely on the digital world more and more.
	All right.
	Let's have a look.
	Oh, cheers.
	Want to see something disturbingly eye-opening?
	Go to the Indian edition of Amazon and see the search suggestions for chloroform.
	I've seen that before.
	Yes.
	I don't know how much meme was going on there, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were genuine.
	JM Denton says, India is worse than I imagine health.
	That's a bit harsh.
	There are worse places than India.
	Have you seen Haiti?
	Good thing we have Magic Soil in the US, so nothing to worry about with allowing Indian mass migration.
	I mean, I live in a largely Indian area, and one thing I have noticed is that since it's gone up, there's more rubbish on the streets than there used to be.
	It's almost like the conditions are sort of recreated.
	Do we have the video comments, Harry?
	Thanks, sir.
	Growing up in Devon, I have a deep distrust of all things Cornish.
	However, I was always intrigued by the legend of Jan Treg Eagle, an 18th century lawyer from the county who's rumoured to have entered a Faustian pact with the devil for money and power, but tried to be charitable later in life to undo the pact.
	English legends are always rooted in the rule of law, so the devil retained the legal right to drink Eagle's soul, but the clergy were able to negotiate keeping him out of hell by setting his ghost impossible tasks, like bailing out Dosemary Poole on Bobman Moore using a limpet shell with a hole in the bottom.
	Return.
	I was joking about being against the Cornish.
	Got nothing but good things.
	Kindred spirits, after all.
	Songs are staying line.
	The Mnonii together strong.
	And a final thought on this remembrance slash armistice slash Veterans Day.
	Take a moment and remember those who lost everything and live today as if you could too.
	Hold your family close, hoist a pint for those who can't and live an ordinary life for those who couldn't.
	Well said.
	Well said.
	Oh, that's awesome, Samsung.
	Glad you're having such a good time out there.
	I'm very jealous.
	Oh, there's a part two as well.
	Rubbing it in now.
	Oh, don't show us how good the trains are.
	I had to get the train this morning.
	I haven't seen any litter yet in any of these videos.
	Japan truly is the anti-India.
	A nice, clean, well-ordered society.
	Have a nice time, Samson.
	Since you are talking about this, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically.
	I think that when I have an issue that I want to speak about, people will hear.
	What a wonderful acid trip of a video.
	As I said about doing some brief maintenance, the mechs torso frame started to crumble in my hands.
	So, though it is earlier than anticipated, I've begun work on the public safe cockpit.
	Video comments of the build are to follow once I process the footage.
	Yet in my ruminations, I am reminded that by the fruit you shall know the tree.
	And I dare say the fruit of my tree is rather persuasive.
	Just imagine how much cultural influence one's philosophy would have if you can get a mech out of it.
	Looking lovely and Christmassy there at the minute.
	Good luck with the building.
	Child abuse the bookshop.
	For those listening, we're getting a bunch of tranny books.
	The absolute effing state of it.
	Yes, I can only hope it doesn't get too many customers.
	All right.
	When we win, the bonfires will be piled high.
	Probably got time for one comment per section over the thought.
	Yeah, I would say.
	So from mine, we've got Cumbrian Kulak who says, that little girl is the future of our people.
	The future is bright.
	Be just and fear not Carlyle's motto.
	We have more and more flags popping up.
	I'll need to do a video showing it all off.
	Yes, please do, Cumbrian.
	Please do.
	Omar Wall says, Elon Musk, I consent.
	Tesla shareholders, I consent.
	Spiteful communist mutants, isn't there somebody you've forgotten to ask?
	It's not about the amount.
	says uh they hate voluntary exchange that doesn't facilitate being a lazy spiteful communist and then just the honorable oh sorry Go on, Josh.
	That's all right.
	Russian Garbage Human says, get well soon, Josh.
	I am ill after Saturday.
	I went to an event in London on Saturday and ran into a few people from the audience and the like.
	I'm not actually ill though.
	I've just lost my voice.
	Marsh Pitt was great.
	We went to Harry's gig.
	He was playing a gig.
	Might post as a video comment.
	You probably won't remember it.
	Really great night.
	I can remember it.
	Thank you very much.
	Wonderful.
	And the Honourable Mention again from Cumbrian Kulak.
	Josh and Luca, what would you pick in Dan's Lads Hour?
	Soldiers, 72 Hours, Pick a Spot, etc.
	I went with both picks, but picked the mighty northern fells of Blaincarthra or Skidow.
	A lot better position than Salisbury Hill.
	Thanks, Dan.
	It was an excellent one.
	Well, I've not watched the Lads Hour.
	I've not done the whole scenario.
	Well, you don't get a catch.
	Josh, did you watch The Lads Hour?
	I know roughly what the demarcations...
	I think I'd take the muskets and the crow magnans just for...
	Actually, no, no, no.
	I'd go for the English longbowmen and the Roman soldiers because, sure, it's a bit of a conventional army, you know, sort of ancient times.
	But in sheer quantities, like those.
	60,000 arrows.
	Yeah, that's a lot of people, right?
	And those six Delta Force, you know, are going to run out of ammo by the time the Roman Testuda is going to reach them.
	And also, you know, modern bulletproof vests aren't going to defend against an English longbow.
	Where are you putting them?
	Where am I putting them?
	Yeah, what was your location?
	Has to be any non-military location you have personally been to.
	There's, I think, Tintaguel Castle in Cornwall.
	Yeah, it's a castle.
	It's not military, though.
	It was residential.
	It's always been residential.
	Well, I don't know.
	But it's ruins now.
	I just want the island anyway.
	The island's the cool part of it.
	Oh, I don't know.
	It's difficult to assail.
	I'd have the sharps chosen men at the South Essex.
	I'd have them firing three rounds a minute in any weather, any location, and they'd be able to handle it.
	He's actually added the right up here.
	I'll ponder it for the rest of the afternoon.
	Well, if you haven't seen that, Ladzhower, go and check it out.
	You basically need to pick between 5,000 Cro-Magnons or 7 Delta Force and a whole bunch of options in between.
	And then make your argument as to how you're going to beat the rest of the things on the list.
	So go watch the Lads Hour.
	Anyway, that's all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.
	Hope you've enjoyed the show, and we look forward to seeing you 1 p.m. tomorrow.

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