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Oct. 14, 2025 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1273
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Tuesday, the 14th of October, 2025.
I'm joined by Josh and Dan.
And today we're going to be talking about something absolutely terrible and yet probably quite predictable that has happened in Europe.
And in fact, since we're on Europe, we'll move on to how Europe is doing really well in one country.
Yes.
That made some sensible decisions.
That country is Poland.
I mean, no surprise there.
They're about to pass our GDP.
I'm going to talk about that.
Oh my God.
That's excessive.
Like, sorry, how has Britain fallen below Poland?
It's not like I don't love Poland with the Polish friends and stuff.
It's just that come on, guys, you know.
Repudiation of what we're doing.
We had a bit of a head start, didn't we?
It's quiets.
Yeah, exactly.
Disappointing.
Exactly.
But also they shouldn't be able to do it because they're not having immigration.
So well, they are a little bit.
But uh but anyway, and then we'll we'll end with the return of the male gays and the patriarchy striking back.
And CNN are uh sad to hear it, but it seems like it might be inevitable.
Uh but anyway, without further ado, let's begin.
So meet Iris Um Soutzer.
She is uh the recently elected mayor of a little West German town, Herdeck, uh where she grew up.
Uh she's the daughter of a steel worker and she became a lawyer specializing in labour law.
Uh she was actually uh she was actually a green party member up until about 2014, and then she switched to the um the SDP.
Where she became the mayoral candidate and and narrowly won, and she's due to take up her office um well, assuming she would make it now, on the on the first of November.
But the key point you need to understand about this woman is that she is morally better than you are.
I can tell.
Yes.
Um I mean, to the extent where she she even adopted two children from from war-torn bits of Africa, one from from Mali and one from from Haiti.
She's not having any of her own.
No, uh well, I I don't know whether she couldn't or just decided not to, but she thought the way to go was let's go to the worst bits of Africa, well, and and um and Haiti, of course, and um pli pick a couple of children from there.
And this show I mean what would you do that, Josh?
Would you adopt an African child?
No.
I would like my own children that are genetically related to me.
Right.
Well, well, that just goes to show why.
She's better than you.
She is better.
Morally in every way she's better.
I'm evil and selfish for not adopting many Africans.
Yes.
Well, you obviously need to work on your morals, Josh.
Uh it's the outgrouping group heat map, isn't it?
Pure outgroup heat map on this.
Yes.
Yes.
But um since since Josh is lacking in in in virtue and morals, I mean we we do have a course for that.
Um presumably this course, I mean, you know a more about it than I do, Carl.
Presumably this course tells you how to adopt an African child.
No, but it does tell you how to be a good person and live a good life.
If that's useful.
Okay.
If anyone's interested in actual time-tested wisdom and instruction on how to be a good man, that's what this course was.
Or woman.
Or woman, yeah.
But there's only one way of being morally good, and that's to be left wing.
And so but that isn't that then.
No, in fact, it's a complete repudiation of all left-wing morality that you have been saturated in your entire life.
Well, well, how how how come we don't we haven't heard about this then?
Uh because um Aristotle's science wasn't correct, but his morality was, his ethics were.
Okay.
But come the enlightenment and the overturning of Aristotle's science, which had uh occupied the academy for centuries up until that point, they also throw out Aristotle's ethics and decided they were going to create an entirely new frame of ethics, which we can call liberalism now.
And that's why Aristotle was thrown out.
But it turns out that actually that doesn't do anything good for people because what it does is impose the rule-based order, which just means that you're not bad if you don't break the rules, but you are not affirmatively good in any way.
So essentially, Walsh is as good as you are in this new framework, which I don't agree with.
Uh and in fact, when you approach it through the sort of Aristotelian lens, you realize how insufficient and vice-riddled someone like Vosch is and how virtuous uh someone like the average father is.
Oh, well, in that case, it completely throws a spanner in the works of my segment then, because I thought there was only one form of morality, and it was it was left wing morality, um, and and and the the goal is to be as unracist as possible, which is what the Irish uh was achieving because um she adopted a couple of children, like I say, one from Maddie, she got a daughter a daughter, seventeen from from Mali.
Uh uh, well, this is not her at seventeen, obviously, this is this is her at younger.
We've got a couple of pictures of the daughter.
Um, there she is.
Um she liked she liked to use the adopted children in promotional materials for a law firm.
Ah, right, okay.
So um, well, you've got to show everyone how virtue is.
Well, yeah, exactly.
You gotta show m morality has to be something that you actively show people, I understand it.
We know your course is something different.
Yeah, the the the thing about virtue is actually it's self-evident.
So you don't need to show people that you are virtuous.
So uh when someone virtue signals, that's kind of the opposite of morality, actually.
Oh, that's I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
Um and here's an oh no, that's a slightly unfortunate picture of of of the daughter.
Okay, well forget forget that picture.
We we we we come back to we we come back to the rest of this.
So, yes, the these two adopted children, um the the daughter from Mali and the um the the son from Haiti.
I I think I think there's an interesting question here about nature versus nurture.
Um let's start with just having a quick think about Mali, shall we?
So um Mali is apparently well known for um armed Islamic attacks, kidnapping, um roadside ambushes, village massacres, torture, and extrajudicial killings.
So not very liberal democracy.
I think I'm gonna strike that off of the uh countries I want to visit.
Well, you it's funny you say that because um the foreign office does have a travel advisory against it.
Um, reasonable, yeah.
Yes, advising against all travel.
I'm sure Callum's gonna be there immediately.
Oh no, it's got a little bit.
So that that's the country in red there.
Don't visit all of that.
Right.
And of the capital, there's a little bit in the capital, just a little bit there, a couple of a couple of miles across.
Advisors against all but essential travelers.
Yes.
Rather than just all travel.
That is, yeah.
So if it's absolutely essential, you can go to this little bit.
Right.
But otherwise, do not under any circumstances go to Mali because of because of the reasons we've um we we've carved out.
And I would presume that that's also the capital that probably has some degree of European influence and compounds.
Yeah, keeping you safe from the outside.
Yes, if if any bit well, that's presumably where the the head hotchos are and the and the embassies and the whatever else.
So you can't even go to Timbuktu.
No terrible.
Unfortunately not.
Unfortunately not.
Um the for UK foreign office, they they advise um look the the problem is is uh crime, terrorism, kidnapping, and frequent checkpoints and robots where you disappear.
So the problems.
Well, yes.
Not the problem.
Yes.
There are many problems.
Well, I I suppose you you might argue it stems from one underlying problem.
Uh I I imagine they've got a lot of underlying problems to be honest.
Well, some I mean I wouldn't say this, obviously, but some people might say, well, the underlying problem is the Mali themselves.
That that that is one interpretation.
Um for the Americans in the audience.
Um do not travel.
It's just do not travel.
They don't even make a carve out.
And it's not COVID-19 that's the problem.
Yeah.
Well, I I could expand the map.
It's going to be red.
Um that for yourself.
And there was apparently a US State Department uh report uh last year, uh, which detailed killings, arbitrary detention, torture abuse allegations, uh uh, and so on.
Right.
So Mali, it's it's it's a troubled region, troubled region.
For some reason the Mali's have not behaving themselves towards each other, perhaps as as well as they as well as they might.
So obviously, if you're morally good person, you get one from there.
Yeah.
Then for the other one, to just you know round out the photos for a law firm, she decided to go for Haiti.
Um which has got to be probably the worst country on earth.
Well, I mean, Mali seems pretty bad.
Yeah, I don't know.
I would much rather live in Mali than Haiti.
I mean, they've they've eaten all the animals, cut down all the trees, they eat each other and and you know, cats and dogs.
I'd rather live in North Korea than Haiti, and I wouldn't even hesitate.
North Korea is incredibly civilised compared to these places.
I know.
You just have to not offend the government.
I might find that a little bit.
And also the big difference with Haiti is it right is it's right next door to the Dominic Dominican Republic.
Yes.
Which is nice.
Well, it's it's the worst country I've ever been to.
But I'm sure Compared to Haiti, I haven't been to Haiti.
I mean, as for a Caribbean country, it's reasonably stable, isn't it?
Yes.
Yes.
They have a massive border against Haiti, as I understand it.
Yes, and um beautiful wall.
Uh lots of guards who stand on that border and seem to have a low opinion of Haiti.
Yes.
I didn't notice so many guards on the Haitian side though.
It's it's mainly the Dominicans who seem interested in in maintaining that border.
I can't help but notice so this is just a blanket travel advice against as well.
Yes.
Um so um the foreign office uh advised you of um mass kidnappings, mutilation, beheadings, mass rapes, public burnings, and massacres.
So is General Barbecue still in charge?
Yes, he's more successful than ever because the Kenyan uh peacekeeping corps were unable to capture him, even though they killed those at his headquarters.
Oh general barbecue's still at large.
Still if anyone at home is wondering how he got the name General Barbecue, it is for exactly the reasons that you think yes, they actually are eating each other.
There's I did a segment once in which I had lots of heavily redacted videos of people in um Haiti basically just barbecuing legs and stuff.
It's also worth mentioning as well that it's got the highest concentration of voodoo black magic of any country.
I I was gonna mention that Mali uh is one of those places where um witchcraft is um flourishing, it's a just a general part of the background beliefs of the people.
Um so it's entirely possible that someone will think that you're casting spells on them and take action against you.
I've heard well, as you should against the spellcaster.
I've heard some say that this is the uh place where magic soil is actually made.
Um the UN warn of um uh child recruitment and and by gangs, uh widespread abuse against uh civilians, and they talk about systematic terror tactics.
Um and again, for the Americans, the um the American advice is just again a big red do not travel, um uh kidnapping and and and other stuff.
Yeah, so so in in both cases.
The food might be slightly better though.
Having eaten American food.
Yeah.
Just kidding.
Yeah, I'd I'd I'd I'd I think they'll be both of us, it's not gonna be factory farms.
I will have my mud cookies, thank you very much.
So the key question why are these countries like it?
And and we've got two views.
We've got we've got the obviously correct left wing view, which is well, Mali is the way it is colonialism is well colonialism.
Yeah, yes.
I I didn't even say it, how did you know?
That's the left wing view.
That's okay.
We we you got there before I could say it, but but yes, French colonialism is the reason for Mali, and um in Haiti Oh, it's the French again.
Yeah.
Slavery.
Yes.
You're winning me round.
It's the French.
They're to blame for all the world's problems.
Yeah, actually, I didn't think of that.
That is actually quite a compelling reason.
Um and the right wing argument would be um no, Mali is the way it is because of the people who live there, and Haiti is the way it is because the people who live there.
Well, I mean, it's compelling.
I mean, Haiti was founded on explicitly murdering all of the white people in the country.
Well, you see that.
And when they got run out of white people, they murdered the mixed race people as well, just for good measure.
Well, that that is possibly why the Dominican Republic and Haiti are so different in that in the Dominican Republic, a lot of people there are sort of sort of half-toned.
Um whereas in Haiti they're not.
And they have a pretty good incentive to keep the Haitians out given their history.
Yes.
So I I wanted to address the question of nature versus nurture.
Because there is this this awful right wing idea.
I don't know if you've ascribed to this one, Josh, is the sort of thing you probably would have thought about.
Um, where uh a lot of your nature is is um well, it's nature-based.
It's it's it's it's you know, behavioural genetics, it's evolutionary psychology, you know, uh i i it holds the view that intelligence temperament contra conscientiousness um aggression and even political um inclination are heritable.
Is is is that the sort of wrong headed view that you would hold?
Well, some very bigoted people that I wouldn't necessarily agree with would even argue that it's about eighty percent of the equation in some areas, and it's actually a very significant part of it.
And of course, the these bigots also point out the fact that um your your genetics Come from your parents, of course, uh obviously.
Um but where they they go wrong here is they say that well, your genetics are also compounded by the fact that your parents' genetics also shape their environment, and so they reinforce one another, which of course is entirely wrong.
See, when I when I was uh doing A-level psychology back when I was like sixteen, uh we were told it was fifty-five forty-five for nurture versus nature.
So sorry, nature versus nurture, so it's slightly higher.
I mean, sure, it's a little bit, but like it's not that much.
And now is it 80% that's agreed on it?
It depends on on the domain.
But um in in some areas, yes.
Well, I d I do have a study on that.
I mean, I just I'll just mention the left wing view.
So the left wing view is um Marx's cultural determination where human behaviour is is moulded um basically by the environment that you bring up in.
So it's sort of blank slate, you know, John Locke tabu Raza kind of stuff.
The the problem that they have with that is that essentially um you you can't therefore then pluck out some child at like you know seven or eight or whatever, and expect them to have none of their original culture residing in their worldview.
Oh well, I've got a study for that.
Oh, right.
I've got a study for that.
So there was a long term study led by Thomas uh Bouchard out of the University of Minnesota, and they basically looked at twin studies and um also adoptions and and this has been going on for decades, this study.
And and he's been finding um that the heritability of IQ is is about point seven, so very high.
It's about seventy percent, then isn't it?
And then the rest of it being made up of your diet, your environment.
Yes.
I mean like I can I can well imagine that being well fed as a youngster will make a material impact to your IQ.
Yeah, I I think there's a good way of framing it, is um think about plant pots and plants, right?
So if you've got a very large plant pot, then the plant can grow to its maximum extent.
That might not fill the entire pot, but like you know, the plant is not being inhibited by environmental factors, but if you've got a very small pot, even if it's a very intelligent plant or very big plant, it's still inhibited by the environmental factors.
So uh the these are obvious uh there there is something to the Marxist view there that the environment does matter, but of course the evil bigots might have a point as well.
I I mean I suspect there's an upper limit that your genetics will give you.
Yeah, and then pretty much good diet and upbringing will let you achieve whatever that is, which you wouldn't get any otherwise.
the problems here is that it's easier to understand the environmental factors because we come into contact with them every day a visual exactly whereas we don't you know visually see genetics um Yes, you actually have to either have modern day science or be a very thoughtful person to l to be able to tease out the in environment from the the biological disposition.
Just a quick thing as well, the there's a massive problem with our actual understanding of other cultures as well, as in uh like the way that they look at the world is so metaphysically different to how we got it.
I remember your video on time, that was a good one.
Yeah, well, exactly.
Uh it's it's metaphysically different how we view things.
And so you might offend against a series of strongly held beliefs that are not necessarily based in genetics, they might just be based in the cultural factors that they've had growing up, but you have no idea that you have offended against these beliefs because they're so alien to your own.
You've got no concept of someone thinking, for example, that they're moving backwards through time, right?
We view ourselves as moving forwards through time, and so for us, the future is something that we possess and we can a lot and we can actually have influence over.
But of course, if the future is something that just happens to you and you only see it as if it after it's happened, and it comes past you, then you have no idea what the There is only now and the infinite past.
Yeah, you have no idea.
But what that means is you have no idea what that person thinks.
You have no real model of the mind.
Well the key takeaway from from that video of yours is that the Africans have no word for maintenance.
Yeah.
Because if a thing is working, why would you do anything to it?
Well, precisely.
But the the point being is that you you can't really predict what they think, and they don't have any model of mind for what you think either.
So it's not like when you know people of the same stock growing up in the same civilization where they can view each other very predictably.
It's entirely alien, and you will be surprised constantly.
Yes.
Yeah, th this study also found that um in young children, the adoptive child tended to affect the values and manners of their adoptive parents.
However, by late adolescence, the correlation between the adoptive parents and the children um had fallen to basically zero.
There's a a critical period in in children's development that's anywhere between uh maybe three or four to seven years old.
Um I think it's uh quite often, depending on what you're looking at, but anything after that point um they're going to have already had a significant portion of their nature defined for them.
It's why um if you learn music before this critical period, they can have pitch per perfect recognition of notes.
It's why if you learn a language, a second language, you can learn it as fluently and accentless as a native speaker.
And this has always been known that I can't remember the name of the medieval monk who said, Give me the child until he's seven, and I'll give you the man.
Uh it's been well known that this is the case.
So give given all of this, um we've got this great nature versus nurture debate, and obviously Germany is a lovely place, and Mali and Haiti are hell holes.
Um how what might we expect this this this daughter to turn out um given that she was you know she was provided a rich um what age was she adopted at?
Um it was over ten years ago.
She's so she would have been around seven or eight right.
So after them in primary formative years.
Uh yes, yes.
Well, I don't know how long I just I just know it's at least ten years ago.
So it it could have been a bit younger.
I'm not entirely sure.
This is a problem that we have with um second generation immigrants as well, where essentially because they're taken out of their cultural context, yes, the actual there like you don't understand that you understand your own civilization on an intuitive level.
You don't think about it, but you understand why everything around you is happening because it's just so normal, it's always been happening.
And so you don't need to think about it.
But if you pluck someone out of uh let's uncharitably say a more primitive culture and put them into a culture like Germany, um you you you could see how that would feel alien to them.
Well, let's see if we can prove you wrong.
Oh, okay.
No, we can't.
Um German mare was tortured for hours by her adoptive daughter, 17, who kept her in a basement and brutally stabbed her, left leaving her fighting for her life.
So police investigation is real horrific details.
So I I uh Iris Saltzer, who who of course is morally better than us, um uh we was tortured for hours.
Now I think we've got yes, so we've got thirteen stab wounds to the upper body, and apparently she used a um an aerosol and a lighter as a mini flamethrower to torture hair and scold her and so on.
And and this went on for several hours.
Um she was tortured in the basement.
We we don't know what the involvement of the of the adoptive son was, but it seems this was mainly uh led by the daughter.
You know, they there she is, Iris, who's morally better than us, who who adopted uh two children from from war-torn areas and raised them the right way.
Um very good.
Yes, the scenes there.
Um apparently they had initially made an attempt to clean up the crime scene, but it was a bit amateur-ish, and apparently German forensics are reasonably good at their job.
Yeah.
Um so there's that.
Um and then there's a the oh uh she suffered 13 oh, is it stab wounds and skull fractures?
Right.
So um some work was put into this.
Yeah.
They explained why they did it.
Well, that's it.
Why would why would two kids from absolutely hellish areas do absolutely hellish things if it's nature versus nurture?
That is an interesting question.
Well, the thing is a lot of it might not be about nature versus nurture, a lot of it could be about the story that they tell themselves, right?
As in I i if you don't feel that you fit in in this civilization, and it doesn't make sense to you, and this woman is responsible for plucking you out of the context in which you are actually naturally raised, uh, and you are resentful about this, because obviously as a seven-year-old she had no power over this, so this was done to her.
I don't know.
Well, that's the thing.
I think I think a people build the society that kind of wells from within.
Sure, but the the point is I think there's a specific story to what has happened here.
Oh, there may well be, yeah.
I I don't think we can actually make just broad generalizations on it.
This is something about I mean you know, generalizations will apply, but th this this I think is not uh just uh uh a random accident of chance, right?
No, but I mean I I suspected that she had adopted, say, I don't know, a Japanese child and a Swiss child.
Well I imagine this uh possibly I mean I don't know I don't know.
Again I I I would want more details but um there is good news though um because apparently um they they were going to call it attempted homicide um but they they've lessened the charge because basically after several hours of torture the 17 year old decided to give it up and ring emergency services and it was considered a resignation from the crime and and so because of that they're not be they're not going to be arrested.
Jesus Christ they're not going to be arrested so they're free to roam not not quite not not not quite.
They have been uh put in the care of youth welfare services.
Lucky man.
So um you know obviously obviously an unfortunate outcome for Iris but at least she wasn't racist.
And she survived well there's that yes.
So that's good.
I mean, not being racist is by far the most important thing, as we know.
But yes, I suppose surviving as well is also an important consideration.
Martin's got some interesting stuff about this.
So, you know, Apparently the uh you know she the socialist mayor had been going to the police for some time asking for help because she did not feel safe around her daughter and apparently less than twenty four hours before the attack she went to the police and saying that she she thought that her her daughter was was a danger to her and of course the police the German police did exactly the right thing and probably called her racist and sent her on her way.
Yeah.
And less than 24 hours later she was being tortured for hours tied to a chair in the basement.
But she did get some good shots for a law firm.
That is good.
Out of that so I I don't know we we will have to ask Iris in the future as to whether she think it was worth it.
This this is what I mean about like you don't understand what these people take offence to as in you know you I don't know why she's done this but it's it's obviously something that built up over time as in the way that this girl felt she was being treated did not meet the dignity that she expected and the liberal anti racist German mayor had no idea what the problem was because she comes from such a foreign culture.
Yes.
Well you would have thought the magic soil would have done its job but but but maybe it didn't.
Um yes so she didn't have her own children yeah did she does it so that no yeah no did not have her own children.
Right well I mean I mean why would you need to when you can you can just import them.
Yeah.
Um this was a fascinating detail so um uh th this girl is now going to be kept in in basically um uh special arrangements right to look after her um you know we're not we we're not gonna bother with the resting thing but we are going to need to um you know provide for her so the total bill is apparently something like 36,000 euros a month so uh you uh do you earn 36,000 euros a month?
No you bloody don't well that that's the thing you see twelve thousand a month for staying in a secure psychiatric uh facility.
That's that no that's my favourite bit the psychiatric facility.
Yes.
Right okay so she's just mad then maybe or and and this is the problem that the the Liberal state has.
If if I can't understand the metaphysics of another culture they must just be mad.
It's like no we just have our own view and they have very different views.
Well wh why don't we why don't we classify all of Mali as a psychiatric facility then.
Every single one of them would be if they were brought here.
Yes.
And subject to the standards by which we consider um sane a sanity.
There's an additional thing that's seriously wrong here that a a woman can go to these parts of the world adopt children and then all of a sudden the burden of the German taxpayer what why should the German people pay for these people?
I don't they're not from there.
They're obviously not of Germany.
Germans tend not to do this to one another.
I mean that's exactly the point I'm coming to actually so another 21,000 for security guards and three thousand for the adopted son placement.
So we we're looking at that.
So I worked it out the average German worker pays somewhere between eight or nine thousand uh euros a year in taxes.
So basically from now on fifty German workers their sole function is to provide for them.
Is to provide for these adoptive children that the socialist mayor decided to bring over And then you've also got to take into account there's a bit of extra cost this year, because of course there's the police operation, there's the health care needed to bring her back up to full standards.
There's the uh there's the air ambulance, there's the ICU, there's the rehab, uh, there's the extended forensics.
Uh and you're looking at, you know, conservatively half a million for that, if not more.
So you've got another 60 German workers who all they're going to do this year is is pay for this um pay for this event, and then 50 workers for the rest of their life.
All they're going to do is is basically provide for these uh these immigrants that the the socialist mayor brought in.
And um I I have to wonder if there is possibly a lesson for the West in this.
Quite possibly.
But at least she isn't racist.
Uh the past the mass.
Um the engaged view says Marley Shaw has dropped off since Mansa Cusa.
Uh I guess the trade in salt and slaves just isn't as lucrative as it once was.
Uh must be a little difficult life for Elon to be a dilettante, constantly being made an arsehole of by his own employees because they can't bother to watch what they're doing.
I have no idea what that's about.
Um the Bonzol Bomber says, I can't watch live today, but can I have a birthday shout out to make it a good one, please?
Or happy birthday to the Bonsole Bomber.
And on YouTube, uh we are in that moment when everyone realised pro wrestling was fake.
Uh kind of, yeah.
Uh, if you don't believe how strange a world we currently live in, try counting how many times you censor yourself online.
A tick will do after a week, reflect.
Well, uh, every day all the time, basically.
And uh good morning, Mr. Personality, and the people of Mali have teeth, breeding habits, and appearance of well, I'm not gonna say that.
Um but um Samson's enjoying it.
Right, let us know let us move on.
Okay.
And let's try to uh try to keep it tight for time.
That's alright.
Yeah, no worries.
So Poland, I think, is a lovely country.
Just look at this picture.
I mean, who wouldn't want to be there?
I'd love to sit there, drink a coffee right now, maybe have some lunch.
And do you know what you would feel?
You'd feel safe.
You'd feel happy.
There's a beautiful area, it looks clean, it looks tidy, it looks orderly.
It looks like a country that actually functions.
I mentioned in the last segment that can't even imagine what that's like.
No, I've forgotten.
You mentioned before Dominic Dominican Republic is one of the worst countries I've been to.
Poland is probably one of the best.
It's just nice.
And what what's interesting about Poland is it doesn't feel overcrowded either.
No, it doesn't.
And I f I mean I uh my experience being of London, I thought underpopulated, but that's how probably how things should be.
No, it it seems very nice.
I've never been, I always have had it on my list of places I want to go, and it seems like a a country that's got things right.
And uh it could be because they pay attention to things like this Ancient Greek virtue ethics, and this is of course Stelios's new course.
If you want to learn the wisdom of ancient Greece from a Greek himself, um you would find no better than uh to sign up for this course.
And he also has a seminar uh at 6 pm our time on Thursday, if you want to ask him some questions about it, as uh well as ask him some questions about philosophy more generally, so make sure to check that out.
But anyway, the reason I wanted to talk about this was this that uh Poland is nearly as rich as the UK, and uh this article does not answer how is it caught up so fast.
It's just like, well, it's invested in infrastructure, which I don't think is nearly as much of the picture.
I think there's far more to it than that.
And I'm gonna read just a little bit from this because it's not a very good article.
Um in 1995, Poland's GDP per capita was um thirteen thousand six hundred dollars in today's money.
About thirty-six per cent of Britain's and roughly the same as Brazil's.
Today, Poland's figure is 44,500, or 81% of ours.
It may soon pull level.
Since the end of 2019, Britain's GDP per capita has grown by less than one per cent in real US dollars.
Poland's has grown almost 18%, nearly twice as much as that of the US.
But we had so much immigration.
I know.
You'd think we'd be so successful, it's our strength after all, diversity.
But it's our superpower from Zach Polanski.
Mm-hmm.
Sorry.
It turns out our superpower is poverty.
Um I've even seen people speculating, I'm not sure what figures they base this on, that they might overtake us by 2030, which is very interesting because of course we had such a head Start.
And of course, I'm not going to uh bemoan Poland doing well.
I'm happy to see you do well.
Um we're countries with uh you know a good friendship, you know.
We helped you out in World War II.
Um every poll I've met's been very nice.
And so I want you to do well.
The polls are great.
The the question isn't why is Poland doing well.
The question is why are we failing?
Well, I think by looking at how Poland is doing well, we can answer that question anyway.
And it's also worth mentioning as well, this is uh is towards the end of this article.
In some ways, Poland is already ahead with faster mobile internet, cheaper electricity, and more high speed rail, which is interesting, isn't it?
That um even though the cost of living is just very reasonable out there.
You'd have a night out, your meals, some drinks, and it doesn't just doesn't cost much.
It's also worth mentioning as well.
Um these are um maps of terror attacks.
Look at something that they've not had.
Here's another map of terror attacks that's a bit more extensive.
Look at that big empty spot where Poland I hope the Polish people in the chat are just sat there swelling with pride and grinning.
You should be.
You deserve it.
Absolutely deserve it.
Obviously, you can see the Middle East is just chock full of red dots.
Northern Ireland, of course, uh Corsica there, um Bosnia, um looks like Eastern Ukraine.
So even bloody f even bloody you know, Sweden and Norway, I mean they they've got some.
I mean, even you know, nice countries like that.
I wonder what this correlates.
Sweden's 30% Muslim now.
It's unbelievable, isn't it?
It's actually genuinely unbelievable.
We think we've got it bad at what, six point five per cent, um, at least in the official figure, it's probably higher um with illegals.
Well, and and also with Sweden and Norway, the reason that there probably aren't more dots is because nobody's living in most of it.
Well, there there are.
There are Swedes living in most of it.
The the major urban centres are where they're congregated.
You can see the big red dot in Malmo, for example, can't you?
And uh here's another one.
So it seems like there's unanimity among the city.
A couple got close.
Oh, we've got a lot of graphs.
Yeah, we do.
Funnily enough, it's uh Birmingham and London.
I wonder what's uh unique about those parts.
A lot in Bristol, too.
Oh you know, not bad then.
A couple of th a couple of dots did get close to Poland, they just couldn't quite cross that line.
Yeah.
I wonder what's going on in that line.
Yes, there are a terror attack in the ocean.
Yeah, I I don't understand that what I guess yeah.
Could be piracy, it's the the it's the Dutch again, that's what it is.
And um here we go.
Um this is a bit zoomed in.
If you could zoom out a little bit, um Samson.
I can't possibly think of why there's no terror attacks in Poland.
I I couldn't put my finger on it.
Um but uh I've strangely found this picture in here.
But um I found this, this is from 2023, so it's a little bit outdated.
Um, but it's still interesting.
Here's a demographic breakdown of Poland's minorities.
So I'm gonna read a little bit of text underneath it.
It says Among Poland's population of just over 38 million people, the overwhelming majority, 97.6%, declare Polish as their primary um 97.4% or secondary point two per cent identity.
Right, so it's like England in 1980.
Yes.
And you see here these these two minority groups here, Salesian and Kashubian.
Um obviously you've got German, Ukrainian, Belarusian.
What is a Silesian in a could I thought you might say that.
So here is Cilicia, it is just a bordering land of the Czech Republic, and they are basically Poles, but they're sort of like a an ethnic so even their minorities are Polish.
Basically, yeah, basically.
They are d distinct techniques.
It's kind of like us having an Irish my um minority in England.
But you know, it's like you've you've got like I don't know, uh five hundred thousand Irish or something.
It's it's kind of that for them, I think.
Yes.
Well I mean that's it.
I mean there was a time of course when the the the issues that we had were like I don't know, the Irish or something, or or the Welsh.
Well, not really the Welsh, but definitely the Irish.
Yes.
Even then, yeah, not the worst problem you could have, it turns out.
But what about these Kashubians then?
Yes.
I'm sure you've maybe not heard of them.
Well, that's where they're from.
They're also a Polish minority.
Yes.
And they those were the two major groups.
The Silesians and Kashubians speak Polish.
I would presume so.
I think I think that all of the groups within Poland speak Polish.
Right.
But they they have I suppose distinct ethnicities and cultures.
But they're they're still very similar.
Yeah, they overlap a lot with the the polls.
But can you still get diversity as your strength if your minorities are actually Polish and they speak Polish?
Not really.
You've got a diverse variety of polls.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think that's how it works, though.
And you know, you do get people trying to get into Poland.
Here are some uh if we can keep this muted ideally, as it's got some annoying music in the background.
Thank you.
Um here are some lost tourists trying to find their way into Poland, and the Polish border guards are kindling kindly giving them a much needed shower.
Is it isn't this where the Belarusians were trying to and the Russians are trying to get Middle Eastern migrants into Poland?
They funneled them across the Polish port, and the Polish lies no.
I mean, this is a very different approach than some other European countries, isn't it?
And um see why they're not having terror attacks in Poland.
I know.
I mean, also look at it is sort of like a a scene from The Walking Dead here, isn't it?
So base.
So you can do that as border, so why can't we have gunships in the channel?
Yeah, good question.
But they didn't even need to be gunships.
You could you could get a little royal baby little cruiser thing.
You could put some of those water cannons on it, and you could just be like, turn around now, you're gonna get squirted.
Great question.
Again, if you're Polish in the chat, just just smile, just have a good time.
We are so envious.
So so envious.
Here's another example.
Uh Samson, could you uh work your magic?
This is another one where there is music.
So uh I'm sorry.
Um but here are we're gonna cut through that wall, are we?
Are we?
These are just some lost tourists trying to find their way to the country, and uh the very helpful border guards pull up immediately and uh direct them back to where they they're looking for.
Here they're a nice lay down for face down for a while.
Yeah, that they're just having a little rest, obviously, it's very tiring, and uh the these helpful Polish border guards are going to send them on their way.
So based.
And uh there's also been some recent news.
I just want Poland's border policy, that's all I want.
Um this is only a couple of days ago.
Poland says it will be exempt from EU migrant relocations.
Well, I thought it's Poland says no no, we're going to be exempt.
We're going to be exempt.
And this is the thing about all of these, you know, the ECHR and all that, is like there's no enforcement mechanism.
You can just choose not to do it, and nothing can happen.
And the wonderful thing is Poland receive lots lots of money from the EU.
Yeah.
And then whenever there's something the EU makes them do that they don't want to do, they just say no.
Well the Germans said, Oh, you we all need to take our fair share of migrants, and the Poland's like, no.
Because I'm I remember hearing the opposite a week ago, but obviously they've had to think about it, is like, no.
You remember that campaign against drugs when people are in school where it's just say no.
Yes.
That's what Poland is doing, and it works.
And uh here's another one.
Poland proposes tougher rules for foreigners to obtain citizenship.
This was only a few days ago.
When do those rules kick in?
Because I'm just wondering whether I should make the jump now.
You might be able to get in there quickly, so you might be able to get it even after the rules.
Right.
So the new measures would increase the minimum residency period from three to eight years and require applicants to take a test prove uh providing no proving, I can't read for some reason.
Uh they are integrated and sign a declaration of loyalty.
They say they have to speak Polish.
Yes.
And they also have to sign a uh a declaration saying they're going to be loyal to the country, which although symbolic, I think is an important step.
And also um they actually do things about people trying to break into their country.
Here's another story from just a few days ago.
Poland charges gang accused of issuing fake university documents to allow foreigners to enter EU.
So yes.
Turns out if you have laws and enforce them and borders and patrol them and you know, a productive citizenry and protect their interests, things go well for you.
It's funny that, isn't it?
And in fact, um Poland issued the fewest residence permits to immigrants in ten years, and that was in September that this news came out.
So if it helps, I mean we we issued the fewest residence permits to immigrants in the last five years.
It went from a million to half a million.
Czech mate Poland.
Oh, makes me feel so much better.
I know, I'm I'm so I'm so sick of watching other countries just dominate us in this kind of thing.
It's like, look, we can just do all of this.
We can do all of this.
But Poland has done the exact opposite of what we're told GDP is.
That's correct.
They have done precisely the opposite.
Well, this is gonna blow your mind.
You know, you're gonna have to pinch yourselves.
Polish property firm to reward customers who conceive babies in its hotels and apartments.
Oh, very basic.
Which I never thought I would read.
So I was amazed by this.
I was doing it for free.
What?
So it's how do they know?
I I guess you have to tell them.
I d I don't know whether they're gonna have like a judge with a clipboard, just like hmm, yes.
Uh but it says in an effort to tackle Poland's demographic crisis, one of the country's largest hotels and real estate firms, I think it's Arch or Archie, has announced that it will offer um rewards, including cash payments and free parties to clients who can see babies at its properties.
It will also offer bonuses to staff who have children.
But it does sound like good for them.
The company um notes that for the last twelve years the annual number of deaths has exceeded the number of births in Poland.
So a private company here is taking the uh demographic crisis upon its shoulders.
To be fair, that is really 1.1, that is devastating.
So that basically means that so you start with two grandparents, then they have one child and then you down to half.
So you is it's you quarter you you cut your population to 25% within two generations.
Yeah.
I mean, ours is like 1.5, 1.6, which is not great, but that is really bad.
But I suppose the difference is that all of those will actually be Polish.
There is that, but that's at least you'll have a Poland at the end of it, yeah.
Um the company notes that this decline would have a negative effect on public finances and services, quality of life, and also the economy more broadly, including its own business.
Look at this.
A company that actually cares about the country it operates in.
Uh in an effort to raise awareness of the issues and seek mitigate the problem, it has announced a series of rewards for clients who conceive at its properties.
Guests who do so while staying at one of the group's 23 hotels, all of which are located in Poland, well done, will receive a free family party such as baptisms at one of its properties.
This is quite possibly the most based thing.
I mean, next time I go on all day to Poland.
You get a free free baptism.
I mean, and uh their relationship with the EU is also incredibly respectable.
So obviously they get they get a lot of money basically uh in reparations from Germany.
Um which is is funny, they get the most, and uh this is 2023, same time as that um demographic uh data uh are you are you jesting there?
Is it is it's do they actually get reparations?
No, no, no.
I'm I'm joking.
Oh okay.
I thought the Germans did pay the Polish.
They did actually.
But I'm I'm just saying that it's uh sort of I thought that I thought that would run out by now.
I'm gonna go I'm gonna look it up, yeah.
But um another thing they they do um here it says EU launches legal action against Poland over lack of climate plan.
I think this might be why they have cheap energy.
Um you're both Googling here.
I am Poland is the only member state that has failed to submit the document, um, the final deadline of which had passed well over a year ago.
So they've got this climate plan uh that the the EU's trying to push on everyone, and even though Poland benefits the most financially from being in the EU, they are the ones that tend to fund their nose at the EU and say, actually, no, we're not going to have your silly climate plan.
We're gonna do our own energy policy, and lo and behold, they have cheap energy whilst Germany has an energy crisis.
So I I just looked it up, and uh they Poland demands reparations, but the Germans are refusing to pay.
Yeah, those stingy Germans, eh?
Yeah, well they're asking for 1.3 trillion.
So still more reasonable than Lenny Henry, isn't it?
Yeah, 18 trillion.
Yeah, way more reasonable.
And Germany actually did do something to Poland within living memory as well.
It's not like you know Lenny Henry, what happened to him?
Nothing.
He was raised in bloody England.
He he was given comedy shows and made into a multimillionaire.
Yeah, exactly.
He was made rich and famous.
And for that he wants 18 trillion.
So because they don't have the eco climate stuff ruining their energy policy, they receive money from the EU, they run their country competently.
What they do now have, uh they have a booming space industry.
What?
Um here is uh a poll in space.
There is an old meme about this about Poland not being able to get into space.
And here we are.
And in fact, um I believe it was the first ever Polish mission to the International Space Station launched in June, so well done.
Bravo.
We don't have a bloody space programme.
We have one in Cornwall, um, but it's part of the EU.
I think it's a European thing, and they just launched them from we do fund India and they have a space programme.
Yeah, that's a massive mistake.
To be fair, coming back to the German point.
Most of Poland actually is just German, isn't it?
Because they redrew redrew the boundaries a couple of years.
Was German and then they expelled the Germans.
Yes.
Well, I guess it's an old German minority.
I mean, my m the last segment was kind of example of what happens when you've got Germans being run like Germans and Poland's example of of Germany but not being run like Germany.
Well, it's they they're not German.
Right.
So it the the the territory that the Germans had incrementally conquered from the uh sort of Slavic tribes over the past thousand years was basically very quickly taken back.
Oh, they they all day two.
Uh well they don't lay they weren't l they didn't leave, they were kicked out.
I would be remiss not to mention this.
This is personal remittances, which um if you're not familiar what a remittance is, it's money being sent back home, and you can see this big old spike um around here when uh the when we had millions of Polish people come over here and watch.
Yes, but the thing is most of them went back home after they left the EU and uh you see it go back down again, and their economy's still growing, even though they're not getting that much money being sent back home.
You know, it's only point nine per cent of the uh GDP per year of the this this is a potential fix to our situation, because all we need to do is make Pakistan as rich as the UK per capita, and then they just all leave.
You're making the argument to build that airport in Mirpur.
Well, for a start, yeah.
That's the the wonderful thing about the decline is that it will incentivize everyone to leave except the British who are gonna be saddled with all the Oh no, it's incentivising them to leave too.
I mean, yeah, hundreds of thousands a yeah.
Well, it's not like ninety.
Yeah, checkmate Poland.
And uh here's something that Callum spotted recently.
Someone just leaving a set of keys by a door on a street with a lot of foot traffic, because it seems like if you have a a country that's just made up of the people who you know, the Poles, who the country is named after, there is high trust because they are the same people.
That's also impressive coming out of the post-Soviet era as well.
Because the one of the problems of the Soviet Union is the destruction of social bonds.
Um and so a lot of the Eastern European countries have a problem with trust.
So it's it's great.
And another thing that they've done well is uh comparing uh sexual assaults for the sake of YouTube, but we're like the highest in the developed world now, so in the year 2000 for Poland, uh it was around two thousand and uh two thousand and a half, and it's been cut by fifty-three per cent to one thousand one hundred and twenty-seven.
In Britain it was around eight thousand, of course, larger population, but it is now sixty-eight thousand and has gone up six hundred and ninety-two per cent.
I wonder what has changed in in these years.
Well, and whatever and whatever changed in the UK clearly didn't happen in in Poland.
Diversity is our strength, Josh.
Yes, I I guess so.
And uh I wanted to end on a nice positive note.
Um this won't get copyrighted because it's uh Chopin who's one of Poland's great composers, and uh it's just lots of people sat around in a it might still get copyrighted, so still gonna mute it.
Okay.
Just to be safe, but it's very pleasant.
Just imagine you're listening to Chopin's Nocturne No.
Two in E Flat Major.
Um I'm sure you're all familiar with it.
But here is Poland.
Notice something about uh all the people here.
And how nice it is, and how clean it is, how everyone is behaving civilly.
Also like Carlson that that is the most crowded bit of po I didn't see any bit of Poland remotely near as crowded as that.
There's obviously something going on here, right?
Like a rest recital or something.
Yeah, they're they're playing music at the minute, um just in a park.
So you could just walk into a park and stumble across this, and it's a nice little alcove of civilised society.
Yeah, I mean, this is what England used to be like.
Mm-hmm.
I I remember seeing stuff like this in my childhood.
Yeah.
And not so much anymore.
And finally, I wanted to point out here is just a street in Poland.
I'm not gonna play any audio or anything.
Um, everything looks nice.
Everything works, everything is clean, everyone is behaving themselves.
This is what mass migration has taken from you.
And well done, Poland for staying strong.
I know there's an immense amount of pressure on them, but it doesn't have to be the way it is.
Yeah.
Look at Poland, look at how successful they've been.
You know, you can extrapolate the success of Poland and and see that how much wealth, how much security, how much safety, how much quality of life has been robbed from you by having mass migration imposed upon you across Europe, across America, across most of the Western world.
Poland has avoided this and has succeeded, and I'm very glad for the polls.
But this should also be the birthright of every European, every American, every person in the Western world, and this has been robbed from us.
Wesley says, even if you make Pakistan rich, they'll never have a judicial system as forgiving as the UK's.
Uh yeah, that's that's obviously very true.
Uh Lord of Nothing says update my card game store is open, not to the point of paying myself, but I'm a local businessman.
Well done.
Um The Forsaken says, uh a man whose handle is death to America in Persian or whatever, is Palestinian.
I know who you're talking about.
Uh Magbar America or something, literally means death to America.
Uh has gotten the ex-head of product to ban like three top tier and non-posters.
Yeah, he's he's a gay Palestinian who can't live in Palestine because he would be killed because he's gay.
He's a gay prostitute.
Uh he uh he wants us to cover it, which we may well do because it's genuinely quite amusing.
Uh he constantly posts about how much he loves Palestine, but he just can't go back.
Because they'll kill him because he is a gay only fans prostitute.
So it's just like, okay, there we go.
Um we also have a better immigration policy, just got stronger a few days ago.
Numbers are in the low thousands, we're getting tax cuts by next year.
Well, I'm with you, Elizabeth.
Patch cuts as well.
Yeah, just rapist cheese Britain.
Yeah, let's let's move on, because we do at least have some good news in Britain, and that is that the male gaze is back.
Uh the male gaze, after years of progress on gender, is back on the menu.
The patriarchy has returned.
And this is uh an article from uh Madeline Holcomb.
Is it possible to have a more whiter Anglo name?
I was just thinking that actually, yeah.
Like, my goodness.
She is and look, she's basically just a little mummy blogger.
Oh, I had been to eight weddings, then I had my own.
Here's what I learned.
More than 99% of heart disease cases, blah blah blah.
Wellness goals.
Time to address your insomnia.
Why do you have so much problem with insomnia?
Just out of interest.
This is not an author that I think I've read before.
No, weirdly enough, but uh you know, old relationship dynamics remain, even as women change, outdated money trends.
You can see what that is.
Women are earning more than men, and yet they still expect the men to pay for everything.
Right.
Again, you can see the receipts.
Right, this the This is she's the most stereotypical.
Um 2016 feminist.
It is possible to be.
And it's incredible that such a person still exists.
Uh the world has changed and she has not changed with it.
So why is she excited about the male gays returning?
Well, she's disappointed.
In fact, well let's let's in fact go through.
This summer I got cultural whiplash.
As a child of the nineties and early two thousands, I grew up with my mother's and grandmother's generation's fight for legal and workplace equality, helping shed social misogyny.
In the I I was social misogyny.
I was a 2010 Tumblr feminist, is what I'm saying.
Right.
Also, you know, is there anti-social misogyny?
I'm just confused by that pretty much.
It implies the existence of it, right?
In the past decade in particular, again, since 2015, uh, I saw the evidence of progress in my media diet.
The movies, shows, books, and advertisements I consumed were increasingly giving women a seat at the table.
As if when I was growing up, women weren't on TV.
I love the idea, but it wasn't true.
Um Heroin Sheik fell away and Bos Body Positivity entered the fashion world.
Stories about a woman stealing your man were traded for the celebration of the girls' girl who resisted competition for men's attention.
And when my husband and I got married, well whoa whoa whoa.
Thought you didn't want men's attention.
What are you talking about?
Why are you following the patriarchy getting married to a husband?
Are you not a strong independent woman who doesn't need no man?
I thought that's what you were telling us.
Anyway, moving on.
Our vision of our life, what our life could be included wide-ranging possibilities, influenced in part by the movies and shows we grew up with.
We saw, read and listened stories of involved fathers, successful mothers, and well-matched partners who supported one another.
It seemed like women were taking a deeper breath without such heavy cultural restrictions.
They write for CNN.
And then there was a shift.
Was it a and this is this is where the patriarchy strikes back.
Was it around 2024 present presidential election?
No, it was probably about the 2016, 2017 presidential election, right?
Or the overturn of Roe vs.
Wade.
Or maybe when men's rights activists push back against me too.
My god, what era are we in?
This was only published the other day.
Whatever the catalyst, the change in the political environment seemed to connect with a social change that brought back narrow and at sometimes constrictive ideas of womanhood depicted in media based.
I'm completely for it.
What's she talking about?
Well, because there's occasionally a good-looking woman in adverts now.
Yes, that's exactly what her objection is.
Oh right.
This is something I constantly say to women, which is probably uh a waste of time.
But I'm just like, well, why are you concerned how the media depicts you?
Maybe it's just my browbeaten way of like, yeah, the media depicts men terribly all the time.
Because she just have a s an internal sense of agency.
But literally, as Dan said, she is an MPC.
We saw red and listened stories of of all these things, and we were like, oh great, the patriarchy's over.
I'm now in the new feminist utopia.
And I can be a boss babe who gets married and works at CNN and we've split the bill with my husband.
To believe people actually exist like this.
Well, they do.
Just there's no internal thoughts, it's just sensory input translates to directly to internal dialogue.
It's uh it's fascinating.
I need like a without any kind of rational intercession from mind.
And this is the thing you need to remember, all these past phases is everyone else has grown out of them, but you are gonna get some people who are 2010 tumbler feminists forever.
There's gonna be some people who are stuck in COVID forever.
Yes.
And yeah, you you you see, like, you know, in California or whatever, people with their masks on, you're like, what the hell's wrong with you?
Um the rise of re recent weight loss medications coincided with social media influencers sharing ways to get smaller and no longer celebrating bodies of all sizes.
Oh my god, I can't believe the the celebration of um morbidly obese people uh has not stuck with society.
Advertisements followed suit, because it turns out they don't sell.
Actually, putting uh really attractive women and men on the advertisements is what sells things to people, which the advertising industry knew for the entire history of the advertising industry until about 2010 when insecure white women were like, actually, I'm feeling fat.
It's like, well, we've got a Zempic for that now as well, so you know you don't even have to feel that way.
Uh why do we think this particular woman might be resentful of attractive women?
I don't know.
I I think that for her, this is all um she's not an unattractive woman or anything.
So I I think this is all for her um a kind of academic exercise, theoretical.
Right?
This is this is she grew up with mainstream feminism, and now that has dissipated, mostly because women don't want it, which we'll get into very shortly.
Uh she doesn't know what to do with herself.
Uh but I think you see, advertisements followed suit, making men's desire once again a dominating factor in how stories are told and how women are portrayed.
Yes, because it turns out that women still want men.
And women want to be like, okay, being morbidly obese didn't get me the man, so I need something else.
Uh the culprit she has learned is the male gaze.
It's always been there and now it's stepped back into the spotlight.
So uh she gets to the male gaze.
Uh obviously she's complaining about the American Eagle Sidney Sweeney advert.
Uh there was something called Elf Beauty, I've never heard of this, uh, that had a comedian who made a domestic violence joke.
And there was a viral content around an OnlyFan star's attempt to break the world record for most sexual partners in one day.
Who is that?
Yeah.
But the thing is, name her.
Yeah, but the thing is, Bonnie Blue did go on a podcast and say, Yeah, but this is the most feminist you can possibly be.
Yes.
Like she literally said, I am the end product of feminism.
Well, she's right.
I agree.
It's like a vanguard uh she's gonna be so shocking that she's going to push people to traditionalism.
She was saying that she didn't want to uh sleep with illegal immigrants the other day, which is a good thing.
I guess based Body Blue, the patriot.
Um I'm not endorsing her, by the way.
No, not in any way.
But the point is, uh she she said of herself that uh I'm I'm the end version of feminism, so what's the problem?
And of course, there is no problem.
It's just not exactly um enhancing women's dignity.
And that's kind of what this woman's entire perspective is based on.
I'm in I'm an independent atomic human being who needs no one else.
Uh but she made a lucrative career move uh more viral by bashing wives and girlfriends of her sexual partners, suggesting men cheating is the fault of women who aren't available enough for sex.
Well, I mean that's Bonnie Blue's opinion, and you're free to disagree with it.
Uh most typically the male gaze is about representing women in media solely to satisfy heterosexual men.
Good.
We're back.
If you're observing women in TV and movies, uh in movies, TV, fashion, social media, uh they don't feel to you as fully materialized as their male counterparts, then you have discovered the male gays.
But men don't want that either.
Like it's also a silly argument.
When I watched Alien, I didn't object.
You know, Ripley is is not an attractive woman.
Because the character was well written and that the the film was good, I didn't really think about it.
I was absorbed.
It's because everything is forced and done so poorly.
I know what you're talking about.
When I was watching Predator, I was like, yeah, I feel fully materialized in this.
Arnold Schwarzenegger's rippled or you know, ripped and wandering around.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's me.
Apparently, the film Alien was written for a man, and then they decided to put in Sigorney Weaver and they didn't change a single line of dialogue.
That's how you do it then, I guess.
Yeah, that's the way to that's the way to do it.
But um, but anyway, yeah, she she carries on, she complains about bong girls, and she's oh the male gays has always been around.
Um but of course this comes from feminist theory, coined by film critic Laura Mulvey in 1975.
So you can see this is just entirely archaic because she's like, oh no, women look attractive, and women like that.
First things I noticed as a kid is that on magazines aimed at men, they have an attractive woman on the cover.
Yes.
And magazines targeted at women also have an attractive woman on the covers.
So basically everything just has an attractive woman.
Yes.
But you know why that is, right?
Well, you can't just be the male gays.
Well, I it kind of is, actually, in a way, they're kind of right.
It's because w men like to look at attractive women and women want to be looked at by men.
Men aren't buying cosmopolitan or whatever the other ones are.
No, but of course, but the the the point on cosmopolitan is it's like it's kind of an aspirational thing, right?
It's like look, uh you women are very uh judgmental of each other.
Uh and so you you women are aware of the kind of women that men are attracted to, and they have lots of bad words for those women when they feel threatened by them.
And how to end up looking like that is the the purpose of the magazine.
All these magazines, my wife buys these all the time, and you you you flip through them, you see them.
It's like how to do this, how to how to lose weight, how to put your makeup on, how to do all that, how to be attractive to men.
Basically for research purposes, isn't it?
Well, the magazine.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's it's basically what it's for, yeah.
And oh, so actually the cover is supposed to be like a you know, this is what you'll look like after you've followed the steps inside.
Exactly.
So we've got like Nigella Lawson on the cover of Cosmopolitan or something.
It's like you could end up looking like her, right?
And this is her experience and how she became what she is, and you know that the men who watch Nigella Lawson think she's a babe or whatever, and therefore you can step into that role that yourself.
That's what's being appealed to.
So the male gaze is not just about men, it's also about women, and lots of women like I would like men to like me because the validation makes me feel good.
And there are a slew of articles that we've covered uh before of women when they're getting older saying, 'Oh, I feel invisible now.
Because the male gaze is absent from my life.
Men are no longer checking me out as I walk past, and it's hitting my confidence.
That's one thing I'm noticing.
Whenever I walk past well, I've I've seen a woman walk past a building site and get wolf whistled.
Uh they are glowing.
Yeah, they love it.
They're so happy.
Well, it's you know, it's complimentary.
Yes.
One phenomenon I have noticed is that if if a man doesn't pay attention to an attractive woman, it drives her mad.
Yes.
And that they either think that they hate them or she's like, what they're really interested in him liking her.
Yes.
This is why you should never simp.
Simping is the opposite of getting a woman to be interested in you.
Uh anyway, so she carries on.
And uh points out that this is about power.
It's about power, it's About the interaction between men and women.
It's like, yeah, but this is all normal, and men and women interact, and there is a power on both sides, which I don't think we need to explain anymore.
I mean, God, we spent a decade explaining that back in 2015.
Uh and so she carries on.
Well, what about the female gays?
It's like, well, yeah, there there are women who are interested in stories that are not about men, right?
And so she gives examples of Greta Gerwig and her film Lady Bird, and it's like, yeah, okay.
They're uh exploring the coming coming of age and experiences of women.
It's like, yeah, there are films for women.
They're called chick flicks.
I don't understand why those films exist, like coming of age films more generally.
I know this is a bit blasphemous, and there are some good ones like Stand By Me and the like, but surely if you if you're coming of age, you and all of your peers are having that experience, so you should have enough information.
It's like sort of needless.
It's a I think it's a bit for social validation, so you make sure you don't feel you're weird.
Women don't gravitate towards these topics.
I know what women watch, because I see what my wife watches when I'm not around and I walk in to find she's watching it.
It's always something about a relationship or getting back together, or it's always some relationship film.
Yeah, but this is a mother-daughter relationship, right?
Because women are not that kind.
W well women are very relational people, they're very social and they they express this social power in everything they do, and part of their social power over men is the way they look and how men react to it.
This is a part of this thing.
Unless the mother-daughter relationship was a and the daughter was from Marley, then I'd watch that film.
Right.
Um but the uh you've got you know, bridesmaids and all these sort of things.
So it's fine, this is a t totally normal genre.
There have always been chick flicks that are foc that are for women that are focused around the normal things that women have to go through through their lives in relation to their mothers and their fathers in relation to their husbands and whatever.
This is totally normal.
And so, like parading this around like it's some sort of triumph.
Like, no, this is just normal.
This is just normal.
Everything's returning to normal.
The return of the male gays is the return to normality.
And of course, she brings up the Bechnell test.
Does anyone know what the Bechtel test is?
Well, I think I do.
That's the one where there has to be like a I don't know, a minute or something of two women talking to each other about something that isn't a man.
Yeah, can you imagine how boring that'd be?
Yes.
But uh apparently many films fail this.
Um watched Master and Commander the other night.
Yeah.
Definitely failed it.
Not a single woman in them.
Anyway, the pendulum is swinging back, as we can see.
So throughout history, the pendulum swings one way, then it comes back.
And that's true.
I think the pendulum is swinging back.
Decades of fighting for women's suffrage in the United States found success in 1920 that kicked off some of the relaxation and restrictions on women.
Instead of costed dresses, women opted for looser fitting flapper frocks with boyish shape.
But in the 1930s, trends changed again, and women were more feminine cinched waists.
Like it wasn't like the the restrictions on women.
Like there wasn't a law that said that women had to wear costed dresses or something.
But I think that um men and women see restrictions differently.
I think you know, we look at these sorts of things and say, well, you know, if we want to do it, we can because men are ten tend to be more disagreeable.
Exactly.
Um and and that's in many ways what women often find attractive about men.
Whereas women are of course different to that, which is no judgment one way or the other, you know, and the differences complement one another.
If you let women pick their own clothes and and they they are choosing to dress more feminine, I mean this is all building towards she wants to put women in burkers.
Kind of.
Um but the the point is you are right, it's the the tyranny of social opinion, right?
And the thing is, when it comes to clothes, men are really kind of uh hmm, not that judgmental uh about women's clothes.
It tends to be women who are judgmental about women's clothes.
Uh but then World War II broke out and women were brought into the workplace in the 40s, fashion became functional, utilitarian, but when the war ended, women were forced out of the workplace and uh became uh the 1950s housewife, the new old style of femininity.
But I love this quote here.
Historically speaking, there's almost always a backlash after women have achieved something.
Would you be did you achieve World War II?
What are you talking about?
Like the w the woman's achievement is getting to be the 1950s housewife.
Like that's the achievement.
Where's the backlash when you say thank you, honey, for cooking these lovely cookies?
Yeah, like th this this is the dream that some women got to live that most women don't get to live, by the way.
Uh anyway, so then female achievement is finding a good husband.
Uh well, apparently it's going to college at higher rates than men.
The gender pay gap starting to close.
Well, it's inverted in some industries now.
And uh having children later, which explains the uh No, I think all of that is wrong.
Well, oh yeah, and uh LGBTQ rights, which somehow has something to do with women, made strides and body positivity press companies to diversify depictions of beautiful people.
Uh and this is the death of civilization right here.
This this is what is killing civilization, right?
Uh the the going to college at higher rates than men means that women who want to marry a man they find more impressive than themselves have naturally narrowed their own pool of potential people.
I saw in the last segment about how you know uh Poland we were talking about there, but many other countries as well have got a birth um you know a reproduction rate of one, which means you quarter your population over two generations.
I mean, basically everything on that list is to do that.
Yes.
It's to make that happen.
I mean I I I no actually I don't care about overstating it.
Giving women rights is going to lead to the extermination of civilization.
Oh, I don't know, extermination, I think it's a bit too hard.
The the the gradual collapse of civilization.
Right.
Um we go with the soft just a collapse then.
Yeah, um because uh like again, this this whole thing the the women earning more money because they're better educated than men, okay, but they're not prepared to marry down.
So they're not going to get the little toy boys who sit at home.
They still, as she said in the other article, uh expect men to pay for everything, but if men aren't earning as much as you can.
But they do it now in their mid-thirties and then desperately get the baby rabies and having children later, as she points out.
But then you can that's because they all realise it's a mistake.
But then you've got far fewer options, you end up having far fewer children.
And then, of course, uh body positivity tanked a bunch of companies, which is why the Sydney Sweeney advert came out and did a great job for American Eagle.
Uh and so this these trends are followed by the uh retro popularity of Trad wives, and it says thin spiration that actually the the virtues of being a woman in the traditional mould are actually something that's coming back.
And she complains about the adverts with women in, but we'll skip over that.
And she gets to the uh ideological gap between men and women, particularly younger ones.
Now, this is actually very interesting.
Uh, because the key findings here, Gen Z and millennials are more likely to think that a man who stays home to look after a ch his children is less of a man.
Now what's interesting about that is that's 27% of millennials think that.
The most propagandized feminist generation ever.
And twenty f 25% of Gen Z. That's disappointing.
Gen Z, what are you doing?
You think a man who stays home to look after his kids is not less of a man?
Are you know what it what is wrong with you?
What it might be gay?
That Gen Z, they still not necessarily establish themselves, and it's also more difficult, so I'm not necessarily blaming.
They grew up in the wake of feminism, so I think millennials are sort of coming to the realisation, yeah, actually there is some proof to this.
Basically though, three quarters of Gen Z men are gay.
That's what they're doing.
So I did I did briefly do this when I retired from the city and I thought I'll just do investing from home.
I was home a lot, and then the wife had her little job thing that she liked to go and do and so then I'd stay and look after the kids.
And so I did this about a year, and then I thought, no.
No, you can quit your job, yes, and I'll I'll just I'll just find a way to keep myself busy.
Yeah.
If you're a man watching this, you have to be the breadwinner, right?
Ideally, your wife earns zero and you earn all the money.
Uh and no, but notice that Gen X has 20%.
Uh uh were like, oh no, that's fine.
That's terrible.
And the boomers are 11% though.
11% of boomers thinks that think that a man who stays home to look after his children is less of a man.
They're the most liberal generation that have existed.
I mean it's nice that the numbers are trending in that direction though.
Well, against that, yeah.
Yes.
But 89% of boomers like, yeah, there's no difference between a man and a woman, it's totally fine.
No, that's that's totally wrong.
They're off on their cruises, aren't they?
Slowly riding out the decline of civilized.
And they they inherited the traditional way of life from their very conservative parents.
But the next one is good.
Uh there's a 20% point difference between Gen Z men and Gen Z women when it comes to thinking that women's equality discriminates against men.
But even then, 40% of Gen Z women are like, yeah, this discriminates against men.
And 60% of Gen Z men are like, yeah, I'm being discriminated against.
So that's good.
And uh yeah, so that's interesting findings from her there.
And uh she goes on to point out that you know you've got people like Mark Zuckerberg who's like, well, we need more masculinity, and uh in fact there was another there was another bit I think we'll get to that.
Um half people uh think uh that men are being expected to do too much to promote equality, and uh less than two in five identify themselves as feminists.
Uh and so you've got a large number of people who are just not into this, actually, and would like to live in a more normal way.
Anyway, so she's complaining about the pushback here, and obviously uh she's complaining that oh, a lot of women are signing on to the male gays.
It's like, well, why would that be?
Why would it be that women are actually you know what?
I like it when I'm the focus of a man's attention, and when he gives me money.
Why why why would why would they want a traditional lifestyle?
What is it about that that works for them?
Well, it turns out that actually we tried feminism, right?
We tried it and we've tried it since the seventies.
And all it's done is made women really, really miserable.
Um that's not all it's done.
Well, okay, that's not all it's done, but it's all is done for women.
Yes, it's it's ruined rest in civilization as well, so it's also that.
Yes.
There is a there's a great graph in this.
Uh if I can find it.
It's miles down.
Um there we go.
Female happiness, there we go, yeah.
Yeah.
Happiness by gender.
So, as you can see, back in the 70s, while feminism were kicking off, uh people were relatively happy, they uh relatively similar.
Women were in fact happier than men before the widespread effects of feminism took hold in society.
And then during the eighties, when women were as liberated as one could expect them to be, men became happier.
And then it's just been a downward slope ever since.
And then 2015 feminism came along, and everyone was like, oh no.
Massive decline, but um a bigger decline for women.
Women are not happy with the future the feminists brought about.
No one's happy, but women less so.
Of course, you've got satisfaction with present financial situation, despite earning more than ever before.
Women are far less happy than their grandparents.
Well, that's the problem, because they all want a man who earns more than them.
Yes, they do.
The burden rests on your shoulders, ladies.
Men for some reason are completely happy with this.
And I can only assume it's because a bunch of bros are sat around drinking their beers, playing their Xboxes, working their minimum wage jobs, being like, yeah, this is great.
What are you talking about?
We don't need you feminists anymore.
We can enjoy our lives and we've got...
You know, what feminism has actually gifted men.
It's the liberation of men.
Yeah, we we now, you know, get to send you off, we get some peace from you.
You get to chip in a bit on the bill, so we get more to you know, spend money with the bros and have a function.
What this is doing is destroying civilization.
It is, yeah.
It's not good for either.
Men have to return to their position as the sole provider and breadwinner, but uh the the person upon whom the responsibility for the household actually rests.
And women want it that way.
Even w they when they became the person who the responsibility for breadwinning rests on, they're not happy.
We're not happy out earning the men.
We're not happy with modern feminism.
They it's made them very miserable.
I'm just gonna read from the abstract on this, because it's just remarkable.
And it's it seems like feminism at this point is completely indefensible, right?
Using data across countries and across time.
We show that women have worse mental health than men in negative effect equations, irrespective of the measure used.
Anxiety, depression, fearfulness, sadness, loneliness, and anger, and they have more days with bad mental health and more restless sleep.
Women are also less satisfied with many aspects of their lives, such as democracy, the economy, the state of education, the health services.
They're also less satisfied in the moment in terms of peace and calm, cheerfulness, feeling active, vigorous, fresh, and rested.
Uh differences vary over time, and with models uh specification, blah blah blah, they they don't carry on to say, you know, this is basically all things.
But as in the past, women continue to have worse mental uh worse mental health even after the pandemic, men's mental health bounced back after the pandemic, women's didn't.
Uh and uh this is just all over the place.
It is worth mentioning that women tend to be predisposed to neurotic tendencies more so um than men are at a baseline, and so having these aggravating factors only makes it all the worse you know for them and i it's horrible really because it's like society's been set up to psychologically torture them and it's it's horrible and I I don't want that it's and that's what twenty fifteen feminism is all about and so this woman complaining well the male gaze has come out women are signing on to the male gaze
yeah well maybe because they want less anxiety they want less depression they want less fearfulness they want less sadness they want less loneliness they want less anger they want better mental health they want more restive sleep knowing that actually their husbands are the ones taking care of these problems because their husbands are the ones who are equipped by nature to deal with it because actually this is what made men happy.
Men were always j perfectly happy uh before feminism and now well look where we are like for men this is always perfectly fine.
Look at all this throughout all of this you know when before like we had like m full throated feminism you can still live a traditional life.
It was all fine.
And everyone was happy apart from office so often the wife comes to me with some concern that she's got and I'll just be like don't worry about it.
I've got it.
Yeah.
And that's that's my job.
And that exactly to reassure your wife everything is fine and you can take care of it.
And now the women are finding themselves in that position and they're like well we don't have enough money.
We don't have to I watched a Caesar Milan video once the dog trainer dude.
Yeah and he was saying that um if you don't show leadership to your dog your dog will see the vacuum and feel the need to fill it in and that's incredibly stressful for the dog, especially if it's a little dog.
You to you're basically torturing your animal by not providing leadership.
It's it's it's not sure I want to compare women to dogs.
Well I I was I was I was making a sort of broader psychological men as well to a certain extent I'm I'm I'm simply saying that it's unfair is torturous against them if you don't be the man.
I can I can dress up what you're saying in a a more presentable way.
So you know it when you when an an organism be it man, woman, animal doesn't feel a sense of certainty and security in their situation it causes them anxiety.
And and having a sense of leadership gives you a sense of clear direction and that's you know true of us.
We talk about all the time about not having good leadership in our country.
And so it's not necessarily um gender specific but you know there might be certain cases where it it rests more on one side or the other I I would like to just stress for the audience that I like both women and dogs.
So that was not a slight against either anyway so the the point that we come to and the the point that she's complaining about is that the return of the male gaze uh the the traditional way that society is run uh is because feminism has failed women.
It's made them unhappy.
It's made them fearful it's made them depressed and actually that a lot of them are like actually I I kind of would like a man to pay attention to me and so the male gaze has returned and normality will return with it.
Let's go to the video comments that's nice and reassuring.
I know.
Nature is healing.
CNN's just like oh no yeah well deal with it.
That article was so painful I can just uh imagine the glazed view of her husband there like yes honey sure exactly it's all the way through that I I imagine he's heard these sorts of things and he's just nodding like of course dear.
No honey I don't want you to dress sexy.
No I don't want to look at you no no of course not that would be the male gays you're a strong independent woman let's carry on too often floor political spectra have strange orderings and feature the names of political parties right and left only describe who is in power and who is not concomitantly flipping the scale when elections carry a new majority.
I think our yardstick needs fresh gradations where conservative and liberal are not positioned on the line but forces acting upon it in the socialist phenomenon equal chaffery which describes socialists becoming conservatives desperately trying to preserve their twisted state.
Conservatives are the immovable object and liberals are the irresistible force there's definitely something to that's little mini video essays are very good aren't they?
They are very very good.
What was his name I forget now but Alex Google he's he's very good.
I've always been sort of frustrated with the way that you have this linear political line it doesn't really map onto reality very well.
It's a very flawed way of understanding political differences.
Right okay right to the website comments Kurt says I feel like whene whatever judge or police officer decides to kick the can down the road and spare that girl from prison needs to be held responsible for whatever crime she commits in the future.
Well, the thing is, being 17 means she's going to be exempt from a bunch of uh more serious charges anyway.
Right.
That's quite silly in a way.
I know you by that point by 17 you know that torturing your own adoptive mother is wrong.
So I think that you can hold someone morally accountable.
If you're able to torture someone, you should be held morally accountable for them because she might have been like a week away from her birthday.
Yeah, yeah.
And it makes all the difference.
Hosep says, Liberals will see a place like Mali and believe that it was ordained by the universe that it would always be like that.
And that not the people there made it like that.
Well, that's the thing.
Like the the the interplay between the sort of um nature of the people there and the culture that they produce and then the inheritance of the culture itself is so unbelievably complex.
The idea that you oh we'll just pluck them out and let's be normal elsewhere.
It's like this is such an obvious boondoggle.
As I keep saying, they're not like us and you don't understand.
Well, people also misunderstand the liberal principle of being equal before the law and people being equal interpersonally.
Like you know, both uh uh wrong headed, but also the w interpersonal one is completely insane.
Like you've got to be equal before the law, but that's because I'm English.
So obviously I think that you know that should be the case.
But like I think that there should be some degree of special dispensation for the native population, as in it should you should be punished more if you're a guest in the country for doing something than if you're a native, not that you should be more lenient.
Lots of Asian countries are like that.
I I would never drive in an Asian country because they kind of have the philosophy that if there was an accident and you're in it, irrespective of how that accident happened.
The fact is that because you were there, it could happen, and if you weren't there it couldn't have happened, and therefore it's your fault.
Even if somebody just rear-ends you.
Which is funny, but I don't really want to end up living in an Asian country.
No, but I'm just saying that that they they are able to adopt this attitude and it works for them.
Whereas we kind of take the complete opposite stance, which is always a dating's fault.
Well, you say it works for them.
There isn't a single Asian country I'd rather live in than England in like the 1990s.
Yes, but we don't get the option of living in the world.
Well, we can make it happen.
We can bring it back.
I think it the problem is that we've just allowed this.
None of this happened to us like by accident or like through immutable forces of the universe.
This was all done by policy, and so it can be reversed by policy.
Uh Hector says, uh what I got from this segment is I need to establish a witch hunting organization as clearly a gap in the market.
Uh well, I mean, there there is in in Europe.
Uh Michael says, to Josh's point on raising children, my stepson grew up in Japan until he was seven, came to the US, went to school, kept his Japanese language and culture, and is now a fully integrated, i.e., right wing American citizen, while my daughter was raised in a bicultural household, is bifluent and also oddly enough, right wing.
It's almost like I don't know, maybe it's nature and nurture.
Uh it's obviously both have an effect on the way people turn out.
Um but uh honestly though, in the individual case of that woman being stabbed up by a daughter, I reckon that it's the daughter not being like a woke German.
And the like trying to say this without being racist to Germans.
Um there's a kind of brow beating liberal that manifests in German culture worse than in our culture because they have an expectation of raw following, and so I have this Kantian objective rule that alternates all places.
There was that great quote by Lenin, wasn't there?
That if the if the Germans were gonna have a riot at a train station, they'd buy a ticket first.
Yes.
It's very much that kind of way.
And so if you apply that to a girl from Mali who has rules, but they're not formal rules, they're social rules, like relational rules, tribal rules.
Um you could see how being the adopted child of a German liberal woman could feel like a fucking prison.
I mean it would for me, and I'm of Mali.
Right.
And I I would hate it more than anything, and I'd hate that woman too.
So You should read some of the uh letters from the nineteenth century to European powers from West African kings complaining about liberalism, just saying it won't work on us.
It doesn't work.
They're brilliant.
I've been reading them recently because I've been writing an article about Lenny Henry.
You'd have to send it across for you.
That is hilarious.
But uh but that's the point, right?
The the imposed rules of the German liberal feminist.
I c I could see that driving someone mad.
Uh anyway, uh Luca says uh Kazubians are a separate Slavic people with their own language.
They all speak Polish though.
Tuskers are Cazubian, sorry, Cazubians.
Uh Silesians are also a separate Slavic group that they are integrated.
They have a Polish German language of their own.
I'm not part of Poland for most of our history.
They voted to go back to Poland after the Great War.
Right, that's interesting.
Thank you for the history.
But basically, yeah, the minorities are Polish.
I can't believe there's whole whole two new races I never knew about until today.
Yeah.
Uh Romans I've heard of Silesian sausage, which is particularly good.
Uh that's how I've heard.
All I know is Silesia.
It's a delicious food.
Uh but honestly, the whole sense sort of Central and Eastern Europe, the food.
Sausage is great there.
Really, the best part of German culture with the sausages.
Uh Roman Observer says, uh the enforcement of the international rules is called the financial pressure.
Uh some countries can resist, others cannot.
Uh I too am envious of Poland's border policy.
Who isn't?
Uh lots of people saying very nice things about Poland.
So we'll skip on to the male gays, because I don't want to remind myself that I live in England and not Poland.
George says, feminists hate men and everything they enjoy, including pretty women, hence the male gays.
Oh, yeah, this is i uh feminism I would say is a a large scale form of female intrasexual competition where dowdy normal women attack attractive women and try to ruin it for everyone.
Yes, I mean uh well I did that broke economics with um uh the very basic Australian doctor on that, and she yeah, she's basically saying that the the whole idea of feminism is to get everybody else to believe in it, but don't do it yourself.
Yes.
Hence the woman writing the article got married.
Yeah, yes.
You obviously like the male gays a bit, a bit of patriarchy there.
And how much how much does being an art a lifestyle article writer for CNN actually pay?
Like this sounds like very much sort of like a make work job for a modern feminist woman.
I think it was somebody like about her husband's in tech or something, and then it's she was saying that for men it doesn't make sense to try and limit each other's um reproduction because reproduction is so easy for us.
Yeah, but for women, if you can if you as long as you can suppress the rest of them while still having kids, resources come to you and not them, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Which which kind of makes women just look inherently destructive.
Well, this is why we had lots of rules about these things.
I mean, this is why the Germanic science societies think adultery is the worst thing you can do.
And even now it's still hugely found upon.
Well, that that's the what you you know that South African town, the white only town.
Yeah, they they have only had one crime, yes, and that was a guy went off to America to earn money for his family, came back and find his wife had cheated on him, so he killed her.
So I'm I'm not gonna judge you said it.
Michael says women gain more college degrees.
Well, yes, they tend to be degrees in lacking in practical applications, humanities, gender studies, fine arts, etc.
So a woman has a degree like this, can only work as a barista, looks down on men who are plumbers, Janice's skilled tradesmen.
Uh but this is a problem for women.
Well, it also becomes a problem for men, that's the thing.
And that's the uh that's the point.
And uh Geordi Sorsman says, but everything changed when the Sydney Sweeney nation attacks.
Well, that's the thing.
Sydney Sweeney is the herald of the return of normalcy, right?
The return of patriarchy, the return of a traditional way uh relationship between men and women.
Whether she means to be or not, it's just and the thing about Sydney Sweeney, I'm sure she's not a political person in any particular way.
She just doesn't seem to hate men.
And that's enough.
Yeah.
That's literally enough.
I'm an attractive woman who doesn't hate men.
And men are just like thank God, thank God she exists.
And women are like, hmm, maybe I could be like her.
It's like, yes, you could and should.
It's not that aspirational, is it?
Just not really.
Don't be that fat.
Don't hate men.
You get a lot of people saying, Oh, Sindu Swinney's not that good looking.
It's like she doesn't need to be.
Yeah, she's still hot, and it's that she's not she doesn't seem like a giant bitch.
Yes.
That's the thing that's really appealing to.
At least middlingly hot and not a giant bitch.
Yeah.
Just like that that and that makes you more attractive than otherwise.
Quite an easy thing for most people to attain, to be honest.
Just take care of yourself and be a nice person.
Not that hard.
Um there are loads of other comments, but unfortunately we're about time there.
So uh thank you for joining us, folks.
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The the last one was absolutely packed and it was a very very nourishing discussion.
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