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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters episode 1266 for I couldn't help myself got to emphasise it for Friday the 3rd of October 2025.
	I'm your host Luca joined today by Josh and Nick.
	Thank you to you both for coming in.
	You're welcome.
	And before we go through our segments today, I just want to remind you it is Friday, so we are of course having Lad's Hour a little bit later after the show at 3pm and we're going to be talking about the great British comedies, something that I'm sure we all hold very dear to our hearts and we'll all have our own favourites and I'm sure we'll hash it out over which one is the greatest.
	You better bloody watch it because it took me ages to put this together.
	Yeah and it's literally the only topic I'm an expert in is comedy apart from post-modern American fiction.
	So unless we're doing lads hour on that, this is going to be the best one I've ever done.
	We'll do that niche another time.
	Anyway, so today we're going to be talking, of course, about the Manchester terror attack that we all horrifically witnessed yesterday.
	We're then going to be talking about the latest woke Pope.
	They seem to just all be woke, really.
	In a respectful way that won't inflame the Catholics in the comments, hopefully.
	But he is quite woke.
	The Pope always has been.
	A respectful critique.
	And Lutheran.
	And then we're going to be talking about a rare win for South Africa.
	So with that all said, let's begin the first segment, shall we?
	So obviously yesterday, really as we were, of course it's stopped.
	Sorry.
	I'll.
	Never mind.
	I'll start again.
	So yesterday, obviously, there was an attack at a local synagogue in the north of Manchester in the Prestwich area, which oddly enough is actually an area of Manchester I'm quite familiar with because I have some friends who happen to live in that part of Manchester.
	And so, yeah, it is a very diverse area.
	And obviously, with a lot of the tensions that have been coming about from the streets due to foreign conflicts in the Middle East, there are a lot of people who are supporters of both sides of those conflicts here.
	And it feels like it's starting to come out in violence, right?
	It's starting to come out in violence.
	I'm confused because I thought diversity is our strength.
	I know we've been told this, but I really need you to try and forget everything you think you know.
	I'm experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance right now.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	But I do just want to say that.
	So it seems that two people lost their lives yesterday.
	We have Adrian Dolby and Melvin Kravitz.
	And obviously, I'm very, very sad for their loss and the loss of their families.
	It's not something that anyone in Britain should have to experience.
	Wherever they're from, we shouldn't have people going out with intent to murder their foreign rivals.
	I think that's pretty safe to say.
	In the United Kingdom.
	It doesn't need to be said, but I feel like I'll just say it anyway.
	And then if I go to here, because you wrote up a piece, Josh, for Courage yesterday, basically just going through the actual details of what happened and speculating on why it happened.
	Yes, if you see these eye bags under my eyes, it's because I've worked very hard recently.
	And I was up late last night writing all the details out.
	So let's talk about it a bit, shall we?
	So as you write, at 9.31 on Wednesday.
	Sorry, 2nd.
	Yeah, sorry, Thursday, 2nd of October, police received a call reporting that a vehicle had struck pedestrians outside the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue in Manchester.
	And according to Greater Manchester Police, the suspect drove into worshippers gathered for Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar, and then exited his vehicle and began stabbing the attendees, including a security guard who was left seriously wounded.
	And obviously, as I've mentioned, two individuals have lost their lives in this attack and many more seriously wounded.
	Three died, including the actual perpetrator himself.
	Yeah, and the perpetrator, the murderer, was himself shot, which is, of course, good.
	And then it says that two individuals have since been arrested in connection with the incident, and investigations are ongoing to determine whether or not the attacker had accomplices.
	I think that's very interesting because the fact that they arrested them so quickly as well, this was announced, I think, that morning of the attack, and within a few hours, they'd already arrested two people.
	Right.
	So it seems to suggest that if they can find them that quickly, then there's a pretty strong link between them and the attacker.
	Otherwise, it might have taken a little bit longer.
	Despite the fact that, as we saw reports coming out, that apparently this man was not on the prevent list.
	Right.
	He wasn't on the terror watch list.
	I haven't actually heard that.
	Yeah, he wasn't on the terror watch list.
	Concerning.
	Which, actually, just to skip ahead then, means, as Dan points out here, and a good point, as Dan always makes, yeah, he wasn't known to counter-terrorism police.
	And so Dan says, so on top of the fact that 1% of all Muslims are on the terror watch list, 300 times more likely than any other group, the 1% is also an undercount, right?
	It's not just the people on the list.
	I'm not sure if you're going to get onto it, but in my article, I mentioned how the Home Office has been infiltrated by over 700.
	I'm going to use the word infiltrated.
	People might say a bit strong, but it is basically.
	700 Muslims who are lobbying to hire more Muslims into the Home Office as well as redefine what the Prevent programme is looking at.
	And the reason that the anti-terror police have been looking at the far right more, I've got a good quote from Colonel Richard Kemp, who was formerly a chair of the Cobra meetings, the emergency meeting that Keir Starmer actually went to from Copenhagen yesterday after this attack.
	I don't think he personally was chairing it, but he was a former chair.
	And he basically said that there's a political push for this, but the threat between the left and right is not nearly as comparable as that of Islam.
	Islam's obviously the thing that people should be concerned about.
	Obviously.
	And he explicitly says it's political.
	It's about politics and it's not evidence-based.
	And I think the fact that there's a growing number of Muslims in the Home Office trying to say, actually, no, Muslim terrorists are not bad people.
	You know, stop watching them.
	That's very, very concerning.
	As well as the fact more Muslims are coming into the country.
	You know, we had the case of that nephew of a Taliban commander being granted refugee status and bringing seven of his family along.
	Roundworld.
	Yeah, they're not taking it seriously, are they?
	The small boats means we have no idea who those people are.
	Talking about the 1% and the unknown.
	Then you've got all those Afghans that Ben Wallace was so proud of bringing in.
	We don't know much about them, do we?
	No, not really.
	The secret Afghan smuggling Afghans into the country project, who was some of them, as Dominic Cummings said, some of them are bound to be terrorists.
	Yeah, it's all very, very sinister.
	And a reason why you can't trust any of the institutions to be on your side, which is a broader discussion that we'll have in just a minute.
	Still not working.
	Do apologise.
	Tech issues.
	But then there was another development.
	And this was only in the past few hours as well, which was from Sir Stephen Watson, Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police.
	And he goes on to say that it's currently believed that the suspect, Jihad Al-Shami, interesting first name, isn't it?
	Name's literally Jihad.
	Right?
	I was thinking about after I read that, like a man called Jihad went on to be a terrorist.
	I was thinking, well, I'm going to think about my firstborn son's name.
	Maybe Giga Cromwell 2.0 is a good start.
	Giga Cromwell 2.0 firm.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It's got a good ring to it, hasn't it?
	It does.
	Tragic event, but spare a thought for the mainstream media who have to try and spin this.
	Somehow the guys literally call Jihad and they're like, how can we spin this to make it seem like he once watched Andrew Tate on YouTube, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yes, you're right.
	People have managed to still try and spin it.
	Incredibly, he's literally called Mr. Jihad.
	And it basically means from Syria.
	I don't want to put it in.
	You have the Syrian name.
	No, no, please go on, Nick.
	But as it goes on here, he was not in possession of a firearm, right?
	All the murder and violence that he committed was done with his knife.
	And his car.
	And his car.
	Sorry.
	And the only shots fired were from Greater Manchester Police's authorized firearms officers as they worked to prevent the offender from entering the synagogue and causing further harm to our Jewish community.
	It follows, therefore, that subject to further forensic examination, this injury may sadly have been sustained as a tragic and unforeseen consequence of the urgently required action taken by my officers to bring this vicious attack to an end.
	And so some of the actual victims were caught in the crossfire as well and have also sustained bullet wounds.
	They've also been there's a couple of things to say about this.
	Yeah, please.
	The first of which is that obviously it's very unfortunate, but in the scenario, as what I've been able to sort of figure out from reading all the details of it, there were lots of people out of the front of the synagogue.
	It's sort of chaos and in crowds of people.
	It's likely to happen, unfortunately.
	Someone's lost their life because they were accidentally shot by.
	Oh, someone actually died for a while.
	Yeah, sorry, I should have read that before.
	It says that one of the deceased victims would appear to have suffered a wound consistent with a gunshot injury.
	That's very unfortunate.
	They had to act fast because the guy wore a fake belt, didn't he?
	It looked like he was a suicide bomber.
	Yes.
	Yeah, they treated it as it was a bomb and only realized after they tried to detonate it that it wasn't actually viable, as they called it.
	That was a correct calculation to make.
	Yeah, well, they had to shoot him, otherwise, he could have killed far, far, far more people.
	Absolutely.
	It's a very unfortunate thing, I think, for the people who had to call the shots there in that situation.
	Because obviously, if you don't act quickly and wait for the perfect shot, he could go on to kill more people.
	And if you act very quickly, you could shoot someone yourself.
	And I don't envy the person who took that shot.
	And obviously, I feel very sorry for the people affected.
	Me too.
	And we have here, so let's just talk about who he was then.
	Who was this guy?
	So as we've established, his name was Jihad al-Shami, which, as you say, Nick, is just Jihad the Syrian.
	Struggle for Syria.
	Yeah, and then people start to speculate: well, maybe that's a fake name, but it's not.
	He was actually given that name at birth, right?
	Imagine calling your kid that.
	I mean, it's like pretty much setting them up for what they're going to be in life.
	You know what I mean?
	Speaks to the values of the father as well.
	So, of course, as the media will tell you, jihad has lots of meanings.
	Okay, it doesn't just mean this, it means peace, blah, blah, blah.
	It mostly means fighting on behalf of Islam, though, doesn't it?
	That's the mainly understood interpretation of what it means: is you're deliberately fighting normally to expand the borders for Islam.
	But also, what's more, this line about, oh, well, jihad has so many different meanings.
	I'm sure it does.
	I'm sure it does.
	But why should I, as an Englishman, have to educate myself on any single one of them whilst just simply trying to navigate my way around England?
	Yeah.
	Dave just has one meaning, isn't it?
	Just Dave.
	That's the better English names.
	They don't mean all this other stuff.
	Someone will probably correct me and say, actually, I think you'll find it.
	There's always some origin to every name, obviously.
	Well, lots of biblical names have some degree of meaning, don't they?
	Like, you know, I've got Joshua, for example.
	Yes.
	And mine's Christian.
	It's Nicholas, which comes from the saint.
	But, you know, like, Dick's son literally means son of Richard at one point.
	It's a pretty simple system.
	You know what I mean?
	What's wrong with that?
	No, not much confusion there.
	So as I say, he wasn't known to the counter-terrorism programme.
	And what's more, so he seems to have been granted citizenship back in 2006 when he was 16 years old.
	That's insane.
	Right.
	So Blair era.
	Right.
	He's been here 19 years.
	Yep.
	And decided to just go out and commit wanton violence.
	Three people, two men in their 30s and a woman in her 60s have been arrested on suspicion of the commission preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism.
	And Ralphie Bloom, a member of the synagogue and director of Fed, a Jewish social care charity, told Sky News that he was on his way to the synagogue when he got the call from a friend to warn him about the attack.
	And he said that the Jewish community has been fearing an attack such as this for two years and that it's been facing a tsunami of Jew hate since the war in Gaza started.
	Now, obviously, I'm not getting drawn into that conversation here and now.
	But obviously, one thing I would say is I'm actually quite surprised that it's taken this long for something like this to happen.
	It was inevitable that it was going to happen because one of the things I did come to realize, I think it was Cunley Druckper or Druckba Cunley, I forget which way around, but they pointed out that the two areas of two neighbourhoods in Manchester, are you going to get to it?
	Sorry, scatting about a bit here.
	I keep forgetting that doesn't work.
	Right.
	So Max Tempers here dug up this Facebook post from the father.
	Right.
	So, family statement.
	The news from Manchester regarding the terror attack targeting a Jewish synagogue has been a profound shock to us.
	The Al-Shami family in the UK and abroad strongly condemns this heinous act, which targeted peaceful, innocent citizens.
	We fully distance ourselves from this attack and express our deep shock and sorrow over what has happened.
	Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims and their families, and we pray for their strength and comfort.
	We kindly request that all media outlets respect the family's privacy during this very difficult time and refrain from using this tragic event in any context that does not reflect the truth.
	May God have mercy on the innocent victims, and we pray for the swift recovery of the injured.
	So already we have the family not only distancing themselves from the actions of the sun, but also saying, don't speculate on it either.
	That's an interesting statement from someone who named his son Jihad.
	Right.
	And this is what it comes to as well.
	Because despite the fact that this was a man who was outside of the terror watch list, right, as you said, Josh, they very quickly found reason to arrest other potential collaborators who have helped him with this.
	And what's more, we can't forget as well that, yeah, his father did call him Jihad.
	Yeah, and it's not like, oh, it's a common name.
	Shabana Mahmoud said she'd never heard anyone call that.
	She's a Muslim.
	She's never heard of it before.
	So it's not like, oh, you don't get it, guys.
	We all call it, that it doesn't mean what you think.
	No, it's like actually.
	Well, it depends which part of the Islamic world you're from as well, because she's Pakistani, isn't she?
	And they're Syrian.
	So maybe it's more common in Syria.
	I mean, it would explain the state of Syria over the past 10 years or so.
	Yes.
	And so naturally we come to the position where obviously the media, the BBC, the Guardian, all of them, they all just go to work trying to find cover, trying to find, you know, it was always going to be the far right's fault, wasn't it?
	There are many people in journalism who will try to use this and are using it to divide us.
	You see, I thought that the murder was the source of the division.
	I thought it was all MacDonald.
	Yeah, I wasn't even just on autopilot.
	Norm just lives for us all.
	Just on the last thing, apparently jihad is used commonly in Arabic countries in the neutral sense of a struggle for a noble cause as a unisex name given to children.
	Although I've got that from Wikipedia, so it could be anything.
	Could be complete nonsense.
	Yeah.
	This is disgusting, though, this news agents thing.
	It's absolutely disgusting, but of course it's also entirely predictable.
	But this is the one that I found particularly wretched, which is them here saying, Jewish people in the Manchester synagogue are not responsible for Israeli foreign policy.
	True, I agree with that.
	But likewise, Muslims going to a mosque are not responsible for what some crazy jihadists might do.
	I wish we could separate these two things.
	Now, the reason that I really want to just drive into this is because let's not forget that a large reason that we have so many Muslims living in the United Kingdom is because we're constantly, the line is trotted out, well, your state bombed their countries, right?
	So therefore, because the state did something, the general British public, right, has to just live amongst hordes of foreigners.
	I'm also suspicious if someone bombed Britain, that the first place I would move to wouldn't be that country.
	No.
	That's a really worth it.
	No, I'd do it.
	Yeah, the two things we hear are it's foreign policy, the wars you've had.
	The other thing is colonialism, it's revenge, essentially.
	They're two things you hear all the time.
	But the problem with this is the percentages mentioned before.
	I can't remember the exact percentage, but a huge percentage of the people on the terror watch list are Muslim.
	That's where that falls down.
	Because you can't really say, I mean, of course, the average Muslim, yes, is still not responsible.
	But it's not like, oh, it's just crazy coincidence or it's just a lone, crazy wolf.
	It's like, well, no, it's a very large percentage.
	We've noticed the pattern, haven't we?
	Yeah, we've noticed.
	And it's also worth mentioning as well that we've seen opinion polling of people's attitudes towards these things.
	And it's quite an alarming proportion of the community support these sorts of things.
	It's not necessarily even a small minority either.
	Not saying everyone.
	You know, there are plenty of Muslims that are actually genuinely against this sort of thing.
	More westernized ones particularly.
	As Douglas Murray was pointing out, you don't see massive condemnation of it from the peaceful people.
	You don't see that a lot of them coming out and doing that.
	Maybe they're scared to do it.
	I don't know.
	But you don't see that very much.
	Well, it's very interesting, isn't it?
	Very often the response is just, look, this guy's gone out and committed an act of terror.
	Now please consider how we're most affected by all of this.
	That's what it always comes back to, every single time.
	But really, here as well.
	Look, this entire point, it's like, well, Jewish people in the Manchester Synagogue are not responsible for Israeli foreign policy.
	Look, I agree.
	For one thing, they're on an entirely separate continent, right?
	Unless they're Israeli dual nationalists, right, who brought in Netanyahu's government, right?
	They have no hand in what's currently going on now in Israel and Palestine.
	But the fact of the matter is that as you were getting to, Josh, and as Drukpur points out here, well, these boroughs of Manchester, you have 56% Jewish and then 69% in one of the neighbouring boroughs.
	And so, regardless of whether or not someone should be persecuted and held account for what their state is doing with or without their consent, when you have all of these people out there with these ethno-racial wars going on, that is going to spill over into all the neighbours.
	It's also worth pointing out, can I pinch the mouse quickly?
	That on this second picture here, the actual synagogue was on this road here, and then that Muslim district is here.
	Right.
	So it's easy walking distance.
	They're rubbing up right against each other there.
	And it is, as he points out, a microcosm of the greater Israel-Palestine conflict because they're right next to each other, aren't they?
	They're competing for resources fundamentally.
	What an insane thing to bring into your country.
	And did you see Sky News report where they went and said, oh, it's a tolerant area.
	Everyone here has told me it's normally very tolerant, multicultural area.
	It's like, listen to yourself.
	I just don't believe you.
	Yeah, I don't believe you.
	And you have to repeat the mantras of the state religion, which trumps everything else, right?
	These are two warring religions, but actually the real religion is diversity is our strength.
	Whatever you call that religion that we're all living under.
	So you have to go and you have to utter the mantras at the scene.
	I mean, how sick and deranged is that?
	But that's the reality.
	There's also this weird thing where Keir Starmer was talking about those who sow division, but diversity is a form of division, right?
	Otherwise, it's not diversity in the first place.
	And so with diversity comes division.
	So it's 80 years importing division.
	You sound to me just like an NMR of national renewal.
	He is.
	It's like Starma's in the room with us now.
	And then obviously this happened to coincide with the Palestine protests that was going on down in London at the time.
	And as they often do, that got quite violent.
	I believe 40 people were arrested from this protest, bearing in mind that, you know, they just got half a million to a million out for Tommy.
	And that ended up being nine arrested, right?
	So the conduct is not exactly on show here from the pro-Palestinian lot.
	But the thing is, as well, right?
	It's remarkable how quick and how different the reaction has been from the British state.
	Because obviously this has taken place in a synagogue of, and because Jews are a minority, every part of the state has just mobilized to get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible.
	There was no secrecy about the name of the attacker.
	We've not been left for days and days speculating in it all.
	We've not had Oasis songs played.
	We've not had don't look back in anger, right?
	We've not had that.
	We've had actually, your anger is totally justified and we're going to do something about it.
	But this is another thing as well from Shabana Mahmood, you know, the home secretary, who says we don't want our Jewish community to have to live a smaller Jewish life because of the fear of anti-Semitism.
	Shabana, all the story of Britain for these past 80 years has been the story of us having to live a smaller and smaller life, right?
	The bollards around London, just all of these things, just that we shouldn't, didn't have to live with, didn't want, right?
	They've just been put in place and just left as permanent fixtures, right?
	The only way the British people could be protected from the current state as it is is if we, in the next census, like dishonestly marked ourselves as Jewish, just say all of a sudden like, oh, wow, we've got a big population.
	We need to stop caring about them.
	Yeah.
	We're so abused in this country, not to, you know, make it all about us, but it's very frustrating to see such a different reaction.
	Obviously, you know, taking it seriously and doing something about it should be the default action.
	I'm not criticizing them for that.
	No.
	But what I'm saying is the absence of that when it's targeting native British people is very, very aggravating.
	Yeah.
	To put it lightly.
	There was a tweet.
	I wonder how most Brits feel when they hear Jews say they no longer feel safe in the UK.
	And it's like, yeah, fair enough, but we're not safe either.
	But on top of that, we get sent to prison for complaining about it.
	And you hear these comments like, what happens to the Jews first and so on?
	It's like, yeah, this is disgusting what happens.
	And I understand the state is quasi-against you because they sort of tacitly support Palestine in that convict and all that kind of thing.
	You know, you can debate that.
	But there seems to be, basically, the prevailing ideology isn't actually going to side with Palestine more.
	So I can see, and they've been able to do all these protests on the streets and get away with very intimidating stuff.
	So I do understand all that.
	But it's a different level when it comes to whatever you call the non-Jewish native British Gentile, however you want to define us.
	Then it's just out and out hatred from the state and go to prison.
	And we won't even, you can't even report on thousands of rapes because you'll be seen as racist.
	Like, let's not even let's cover it up.
	So it's a whole other level of absolute, no one will even give lip service to the idea of, oh, we've got to sort this.
	It will be shut up immediately.
	I mean, Starmer, calling everyone far right in the wake of Southport.
	It was immediate.
	There was nothing about the victims.
	There was nothing about it.
	It was just immediately, you're still scum.
	And what's more, it doesn't matter why you're writing.
	Right.
	It doesn't matter.
	Right.
	How you feel.
	Yeah.
	So I don't think this, I don't think this sort of regime's sense.
	I don't think they're really on the side of Jewish people, but they're more than they are with the sort of native British, whatever you want to call us, who is absolutely hated.
	It's a different level.
	And so we're at a position now where, you know, when we think about what's been going on here and all of these terror attacks, and of course they're all terrible, but when 7-7 happened, that should have been the first and last, right?
	It should have been the last.
	And yet they just keep going on.
	And there's a reason why I've not just included loads of statements from like Kia Starmer and all of the other politicians in this.
	It's because you know what they're going to say.
	Right?
	It's just such a copy and paste.
	It's just an identic response.
	You see, Tim Farron's one, former leader of Lib Dems, one of the sort of semi-reasonable ones, what used to be.
	He says, after the outrage in Manchester, there are people on the streets tonight chanting for the annihilation of the world's only Jewish state.
	Racism is a feature of the far right, but sadly not of the far right alone shameful.
	So he said more than most politicians will say, but he still threw in the far right for completely no reason.
	They really can't.
	Their worldview, as we know, can't handle this at all.
	And it's absolutely stretched to breaking point now.
	The news agents is about as far as you can stretch it.
	The insanity and the gaslighting.
	But it's not going to go much further.
	But it's evil and it's costing lives is what it comes down to.
	Rupert, on the other hand, is much more on the money as usual, where he says, we must stop importing those who hate Britain and wish to do us harm.
	We must start deporting those foreign nationals who hate Britain and wish to do us harm.
	If that means revoking citizenship from dual nationals on an industrial scale, then that is what must happen.
	We must stop tolerating the intolerable.
	This has gone on for too long, with too much harm, death, and suffering inflicted along the way.
	Some will come from France on the dinghy.
	Others will come into Heathrow or Gatwick.
	Regardless of the route of entry, if a foreign dual national holds such a visceral hatred of Britain and our people, then they should be forcefully removed.
	The number is irrelevant.
	I fear that it may be far larger than even I expect.
	Terrible, avoidable atrocities will continue to happen until politicians grasp this nettle.
	No more thoughts, no more prayers, action.
	Good statement from Rupert there, as always.
	Yeah, as always.
	So depressing how he's such an outlier in Parliament.
	He's the only one.
	I mean, when he sort of first started saying so, I was like, oh, there's a guy that's sort of actually representing me.
	Then it was immediately like, get out of reform.
	So it's kind of a freak thing that he's even in parliament.
	The one normal person saying the obvious while they try and gaslight us into oblivion.
	Well, when they're saying, you know, oh, you know, the far right is stoking up revision.
	It's like, no, we are trying to find solutions to the division, right?
	We're trying to deport the many, many Britain-hating people who are here.
	Deportation is the most civil way of dealing with the problem.
	It is.
	And so if they're refusing to allow us to deport the problem, then what they're doing is building up pressure and making a violent response more likely.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Right.
	I'll just read.
	And no comments from YouTube.
	Oh, all right then.
	Well, head over to your segment, Nick.
	Okay, well, let's see if the tech works for my segment.
	Because then you'll see some real boomers.
	I'll try.
	Now that I've finished, I'll try and plug it in.
	The old unplug and plug back in is a classic.
	It actually works, though.
	Always works everywhere.
	This must look quite dodgy on the camera.
	Luca, what are you getting out?
	It won't go in.
	Well, yours should be.
	Right, they should be back.
	Maybe.
	Like, give it a go.
	Have a go.
	Sorry about this, ladies and gentlemen.
	It works.
	Hooray.
	Okay, there we go.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Clarate will, Nick.
	Awesome.
	So this segment is called something like, Is this the most woke pope ever?
	But quick disclaimer, mainly so I don't get attacked in the comments.
	Because as I said, if I do get attacked, I just won't do the podcast anymore.
	And I said to Josh earlier, I'll just simply take my ball and go home.
	Nick, no.
	But the reason is that you shouldn't attack me, guys, is it's not an attack on Catholics.
	This is looking at different Catholic views on the Pope, some of whom are not thrilled and some are okay with it.
	And it does happen with all Protestants, I found out just before, but that's a mere coincidence.
	Although these two are atheists anyway, so really I'm closer to the Catholics than these two.
	I did point out that even though I am not religious, I still join in on the sectarianism.
	Right, you just have a bit of weakened sectarianism.
	Yeah, but you guys, to me, as atheists, you're basically Satanists, and I'm basically with the Catholics, really.
	Thanks, Mike.
	Yeah, watch what you say or sacrifice you.
	I've tried to get on with the comments.
	I'll just sacrifice you two instead.
	Anyway, let's look then.
	Is this the most woke Pope ever?
	So the Pope here has blessed a block of ice at a conference called Raising Hope for Climate Justice.
	And maybe we can have a quick look at this here if I can work the tech.
	I would now like to invite you to stand for the blessing of the waters.
	Can we turn it up?
	Yeah.
	Can I turn it up?
	It was a great question.
	Yes.
	Well done.
	People don't understand.
	It's like having Parkinson's using this thing.
	So for anyone just listening, this is the Pope blessing a block of ice.
	It's very exciting listening.
	It's quite relaxing.
	I'm quite relaxed, actually, just watching this, I have to say.
	Yeah, there's not an awful lot of action here, but he does then do a blessing.
	Then they sing a song.
	Are they going to release that bit of ice back into the wild now?
	It's going to go back to its ice-capped friends and regrow.
	I was taken to a Lord of life.
	Bless this water.
	May it awaken our hearts, cleanse our indifference, soothe our grief, and renew our hope through Christ our Lord.
	Well, it's pretty much that.
	You get the idea.
	We won't play the whole five minutes 50, but you get the idea.
	They sing a bit later.
	Now, some people say, well, this is just blessing water.
	This is a normal Catholic thing.
	So some people have said it's completely fine.
	Calvin wasn't one of them.
	Calvin puts the Wahlberg shaking head gift there.
	So he wasn't too happy.
	And of course, in case you're wondering, Arnold Schwarzenegger was obviously there.
	He was part of it waving this.
	Mr. Freeze was there in the middle of the day.
	Mr. Freeze was there waving.
	I'm not going to.
	I mean, I don't really know what's happening right here.
	I used to do that in preschool.
	Parachute with beanbags.
	They're waving a large cloth for the listener.
	And that's all I can tell you, really.
	And it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	He was there and he did a speech saying, there are 1.3 billion Catholics.
	He was sort of impressed with the numbers.
	Great enough, tremendous numbers was his sort of thing.
	But not all Catholics were happy about this.
	Matt Walsh, not thrilled.
	Fair to say.
	He says horrific, the whole thing.
	Pope Leo blesses a block of ice and then stands there while these communist freaks do some kind of weird pagan earth-worshipping hippie ritual.
	The leader of the Catholic Church shouldn't be anywhere near this nonsense.
	What the hell are we doing here?
	No question, Mark.
	That sounds like it's taken straight out of Gran Torino or something, doesn't it?
	Who knows, yeah.
	You ever come across someone you shouldn't have.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it can be grumpy old Walsh there, but he is, you know, he's a Catholic, anyway.
	It's not all Catholics feel this way.
	He does, though.
	And Homath says it's worse than you know, Matt.
	This is the tip of the iceberg.
	Someone had to say it.
	Someone had to.
	Terrible.
	Well played.
	Now, this Groper here says, collated a load of people sort of attacking the Pope based on this and said, that's actually you're doing the wrong thing, Matt Walsh, because you are encouraging attacks on Catholics.
	And this person says, do you feel any shame that your comments today got these responses from non-Catholics?
	You even made someone question why they're going through RCIA, which is the right of Christian initiation of adults as part of the Catholic confirmation.
	But Matt Walsh doubles down.
	He says, right, the scandal is not that the Pope took part in a pagan climate justice ritual, but that I commented on it.
	You should definitely keep pointing the finger of blame at commentators rather than the church leaders who are actually doing these things.
	Fair comment, to be honest.
	And so there was further controversy, though, not just the ice thing.
	So the Cardinal Supic, who is the Archbishop of Chicago, amongst other things, gave a Lifetime Achievement Award to Senator Dick Durbin, who is known to have been a lifelong supporter of abortion.
	So this hasn't gone down well with Catholics.
	And this received more than 40,000 signatures in a petition against it.
	So the Pope was sort of door-stopped essentially.
	He was kind of like, some people said, it's like a football manager.
	He was like being harangued and asked questions about this.
	So he was, well, not forced to, but he was asked to answer on this.
	Just wanted to touch one thing that has become a bit of a divasive subject in the US right now.
	Cardinal Supic giving an award to Senator Durbin.
	Some people of faith are having a hard time with understanding this because he is pro, or rather, he's for legalized abortion.
	How would you help people of faith right now decipher that, feel about that, and how do you feel about that?
	I'm not terribly familiar with the particular case.
	I think that it's very important to look at the overall work that a senator has done during, if I'm not mistaken, 40 years of service in the United States Senate.
	I understand the difficulty and the tensions, but I think as I myself have spoken in the past, it's important to look at many issues that are related to what is the teaching of the church.
	Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life.
	So someone who says that I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life.
	So they're very complex issues.
	I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them, but I would ask first and foremost that there be greater respect for one another and that we search together both as human beings, in that case as American citizens or citizens of the state of Illinois, as well as as Catholics, to say we need to really look closely at all of these ethical issues and to find the way forward as church.
	Church teaching on each one of those issues is very clear.
	Thank you.
	Look, as you've been very keen to remind me, I'm merely a satanic atheist and therefore no Catholic theologian, but I would have thought there would be a difference between, say, an unborn child in the womb and like a murderer on death row.
	I was going to say exactly that same thing.
	Yes, and many have said this, and that, according to many, was the church's teaching until very recently.
	And so, yes, it's not gone down well with many Catholics.
	And of course, the migration thing was a strange comment as well, to tie the issue of abortion to anti-immigration sentiment.
	It seems yeah, and also if you're against abortion, you have to be for open borders.
	Yeah, this is tenuous, it seems to me, but hey, I'm not a Catholic.
	But let's look at what some Catholics say.
	I mean, Pascal here says, I know there's a good chance I'm wish casting, but if you read what he actually said, this is actually fairly okay.
	He's not taking a position on the death penalty or anything else.
	He's just using these examples to make the point that a politician may not check every box of Catholic teaching, but still be broadly in line with the church or deserving to be honoured, which is true.
	It's perfectly easy to imagine him flipping the issues and saying something similar about J.D. Vance.
	But is it?
	Because one thing I didn't mention earlier is that there was lots of controversy when this Pope came in.
	Is he woke, is he based?
	And people were trying to figure out.
	And there were some tweets that seemed to be anti-Trump things that he had reposted.
	So there was always that suspicion with him.
	So anyway, Matt Walsh again replies to this.
	If a politician supports abortion, he is not in line with church teaching to any meaningful degree whatsoever and should not only be disqualified from lifetime achievement awards, but should obviously be excommunicated.
	Abortion is not just one issue that Catholics can have differing opinions about.
	To support abortion publicly, much less to fund and facilitate it, as Durbin has for 40 years, is to be in a state of grave mortal sin and open rebellion against God and the church.
	It should not be difficult for the Pope to say this or for any leader in the church to say it.
	If I were a Catholic, it'd be this kind of Catholic.
	I think that this is a much better argument than the counterpoint.
	But also, this type of argument feels actually eternal.
	It feels authentically Catholic.
	Whereas the position from, well, I, you know, if Pascal's right about it, but it still means that it just feels like it's pandering to the fads, progressive fads of the day, right?
	It's trying to make Catholicism accessible to progressivism as opposed to being authentically itself.
	This does seem like the moral argument as well.
	The more moral one, certainly.
	Yes.
	Yeah, there's a very interesting point on what you said there, Luca, later.
	But Michael Knowles agrees pretty much with Matt and adds something else.
	He says, with a sufficiently broad definition, one cannot kill a spider and be pro-life.
	A term one recalls.
	I'm just simply going to hell then.
	I always put them outside, which is a bit, apparently that doesn't help either.
	Anyway, a term one recalls, which is a political slogan rather than a precise moral category.
	So let's put it more bluntly.
	Cardinals should not give lifetime achievement awards to infanticidal politicians.
	So, yeah, and just anyone forgot, basically, he gave the lifetime achievement award to this Durbin guy.
	We'll find out in a minute.
	He actually ended up refusing it.
	But another take, Seth Dillon, very much agreeing again.
	Someone who says I'm against abortion but in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life.
	This is a shocking error from an authority in the church.
	The pro-life position is that it's wrong to intentionally kill the innocent and defenseless, not the guilty and dangerous, Josh's point.
	And putting dangerous convicts to death is one of the many ways we protect the innocent.
	Well, you both said that.
	It's clearly a very strong point.
	There's a lot of people protesting the Pope, aren't there, here that are Catholics?
	Yeah.
	And I was interesting.
	Yeah.
	Wonder whether it's hot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's happening again, folks.
	It's going to be bigger and better than ever.
	Slightly different view here.
	This person points out Francis revised the catechism on this.
	The church teaches in the light of the gospel that the death penalty is inadmissible because it's an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person.
	And she works with determination for its abolition worldwide.
	But then people just counter that by saying, well, Francis was woke anyway.
	The last guy was woke.
	So even if he revised it, he was just also woke.
	A big fan of liberation theology and the likes.
	I did a little digging into that and it's all madness.
	It's basically like theological Marxism.
	It's terrible.
	The crazies always rise to the top, don't they?
	They do.
	So, Mike Cernovich, he actually follows me when he tweets me sometimes.
	Smart cookie.
	He says, he's a smart cookie.
	He says, the Pope couldn't last five minutes on quite a lot of, by the way, people wondering why I'm squinting because there's a light going right across it.
	The Pope couldn't last five minutes on pints with Aquinas or Michael Knowles, and they would be nice.
	Someone not as nice would shred him.
	The Pope posted slop.
	He morally equated a murder with an unborn child, Reddits here, atheist slop.
	No offense to you guys on the atheist bit.
	Non-take.
	All right, we don't believe in anything anyway.
	And Pozzo says the same.
	I can't believe people are defending what Leo said here.
	Just went full woke.
	The Bible is explicitly pro-death penalty, as was the Roman Catholic Church herself for millennia until about five minutes ago.
	True.
	Certainly nowhere is pro-death penalty.
	God says, you know, if someone spills the blood of somebody, you have to spill their blood because what they've done is so heinous.
	I admit that's Old Testament.
	That's as far as I got.
	I was like, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I stuck with that part.
	And this is on Luca's earlier point, Cernovich says he could have chosen any other issues.
	He deliberately used far-left-wing culture war wedge issues rather than, say, marginal tax income rates or long-term capital gain exemptions for the sale of a primary residence.
	I'd love to see the Pope having a view on that.
	That's great.
	Excuse me.
	What do you think of any?
	What do you think of long-term capital gains?
	Is that just, well, my child.
	The Pope comes out and says taxation is theft.
	The tithes are not.
	Full-on handcap Pope.
	And here's its loophole so you don't have to render them to Caesar.
	Slightly different take.
	Just I'm being balanced and giving different Catholics the views here.
	I'm not being all, you know, what's the word?
	I was going to say Protestant.
	Partisan.
	Yeah, partisan.
	Thank you.
	I don't get much sleep when I do this podcast, guys.
	That's an obvious word for an English English masters.
	The award was specifically in recognition of his singular contribution to immigration reform and his unwavering support of immigrants, which is so needed in our day.
	It has nothing to do with his support of abortion or in an alignment with the church.
	The church has the right, as it has traditionally done, to honour a person for a specific good deed, even when not in full alignment with all church teachings.
	This is the point the Pope is making.
	Even non-Catholics and atheists have in the past been beneficiaries of the church honours.
	So the argument there is it's not about the abortion thing.
	Chill out.
	It's just about the immigration thing, which I thought was a slightly strange argument.
	Yeah.
	Which Matt Walsh again.
	So it's appropriate to give an award to a man.
	Rage treating at 5 a.m.
	So it's important to give it appropriate to give an award to a man who participated in facilitating the fun and funding the mass slaughter of children because he also was an advocate for open borders and the destruction of our national sovereignty.
	This is one of the worst things about weak leadership in the church.
	It compels otherwise good and faithful Catholics to humiliate themselves by defending things they know are indefensible.
	I must say, I thought that was a strange argument.
	It wasn't for the abortion thing, it was for the immigration thing.
	Yeah, all so bad.
	I think that the point they said about they don't necessarily have to be giving an award for the entirety of someone's existence, that seemed reasonable.
	But the example of, oh, it's for open borders, yeah, get lost.
	Yeah.
	And he did end up turning it down, Durban, as I said, because it was just too controversial.
	And, oh, yeah.
	So Cernovich was ahead of this.
	He says, sorry, Catholics, this new Pope is an open borders globalist.
	He'll be pushing for abortion soon.
	This isn't a guess.
	You can scroll his X accounts and see what he's been up to.
	And this was he tweeted this back in May, and it was things like this.
	It was a certain repost that he'd done, basically, and that was where the controversy arose from.
	So Cernovich was ahead of the game.
	Now the question is, can I get out of that tweet?
	If you click the on the top left, yeah, in theory, but people don't realize moving this mouse is actually much harder than a conventional mouse.
	If you like me to do it for you.
	No, no, no, I'm there.
	I'm there.
	There we go.
	Well done.
	You just look like you.
	You don't want any help from them.
	You look like you can't fucking atheists.
	You look like you can't operate a mouse that people don't realize at home.
	It's hellishly difficult.
	Anyway, no pun intended.
	So Pozzo says the account was right there.
	The tweets never lie.
	But some other points.
	Warreg Nationalist, who was recently on my podcast, check it out.
	Here's a prediction.
	Pope Leo will give his blessing to climate migration scene.
	The idea that tens or hundreds of millions of third worlders must be brought to the West in advance of climate change, making their homes uninhabitable bookmarks.
	Well, the world, if he keeps nicking the rice.
	Climate will change.
	And did you say rice or ice?
	Ice.
	Oh, right.
	Nicking the rice.
	Nicking Pope.
	Hates the Far East.
	Catholics are back in Japan again.
	And Cerno points out what's funny about all this is that the supposed racists all wanted the base African as pope.
	Nobody wanted a shitlib from Chicago, which is why the Vatican Lavender Mafia selected him to usher in a far-left-wing globalist agenda of Bolshevik terror.
	Typically on the fence for Mike there.
	Now, another one, dissident West.
	I don't know what if that's some Indian account or what, but no disrespect.
	No disrespect to my Catholic friends, but I don't see how you can possibly defend this.
	Christians are being genocided in Nigeria.
	Speaking of Africa, and the Pope is praying over a block of ice for P's climate change Marxists, make it make sense.
	There is that, you know, we've got that genocide in Nigeria, or some people are calling it.
	And why not talk about that, for example?
	But there is one.
	Well, there are some Catholics who have a different take.
	So I want to try and give all the different takes.
	So this chap, here's the cool thing about being Catholic.
	I don't have to make it make sense because regardless of what the Pope does, the Catholic Church is still the Church of Christ.
	When Protestants are scandalized by their pastors, they just hop on to another church because in their theology, a church is a church, is a church, but I have nowhere else to go, nor do I want to go anywhere else.
	Whether the Pope is on point or far left field, I know one thing to be true.
	The Catholic Church is the Church of Christ and is protected by the Holy Spirit.
	So I wanted to give that take as well.
	It doesn't matter what the Pope says about political things.
	And there is one other young Catholic who had a very similar take, weirdly.
	And I thought we would play this different take on it from another Catholic chapter.
	Jared Taylor had a post today.
	He said this Pope betrayed his people.
	He was an advocate for mass migration.
	It's like, okay, sorry the Pope isn't a white nationalist.
	Sorry the Pope isn't like a Confederate.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry the vicar of Christ on earth.
	And I respectfully, I'm sorry the vicar of Christ on earth, the supreme pontiff, is not like a low former Klansman.
	Like, sorry he's not more like who's that guy that speaks at Amran every year.
	You know, sorry he's not a neo-Confederate.
	And don't get me wrong.
	I don't agree with the Pope on mass migration, but it does need to be considered that he is speaking for humanity as a whole and not necessarily the United States or even Europe for that matter.
	He's speaking for humanity as a whole.
	Now, you may disagree with that as a white person, and I certainly do.
	But this is a planet with a lot of poor brown people in it.
	It's just the truth.
	If you're the head of a global institution, if you're the head of the Catholic Church, you know, Catholics have to acknowledge this.
	This is not a white nationalist organization.
	It is a universal institution.
	And it just so happens that the state of planet Earth today, like it, love it, got to have it.
	You know, Coldstone, whether you like it, don't like it, whether you hate it, it's a lot of poor brown people.
	And I don't necessarily agree with what the Pope says about how America should conduct its business, but for him to be empathetic to the plight of the global poor that are migrating from destitute poverty, anarchy, and chaos, you can sort of see where he's coming from.
	All right.
	So nuance there.
	Yeah, different take from that clean-cut young Catholic man.
	And that was about the previous Pope Francis, but it's all the exact same points.
	Yeah.
	It all applies.
	Well, this was one of the things because I remember doing a segment where I covered the death of the last Pope.
	And we were looking at the election of who was going to be the next Pope.
	And this is just what you realize that because of the state of the globalized world that we're living in now as well, it means that the Catholic Church has more areas of the world to represent.
	You know, gone are the days when it was merely a question of Europe and the Middle East during the era of the Crusades, right?
	It has to give moral consideration now to Asia and Africa and Latin America.
	Over the past thousand or so years, the Pope's seat was sort of seen as a way of jockeying for power between European powers.
	So there was a lot of competition to get, you know, someone up from France or Austria, obviously Italy, or even Germany, you know, depending on where you were.
	The only thing that I would say, of course, sort of from my atheistic perspective against the Pope's ideas about mass migration, of course, is that even though it might be deemed compassionate to help the poor, you know, global south in this way, it's not compassionate to the people that you're forcing them on.
	And all you're actually going to end up doing is degrading the standards and the quality of life of the place that they're going to, whilst also simultaneously impoverishing the lower south as well, because you're depriving it of all of the people that could work and labor to make it better.
	I also think compassion's got to be applied appropriately.
	Like, if you can't build a successful country and therefore you've got to move to another country and lower the living standards of their country, ride on their coattails to civilization, that's not really someone who deserves compassion, in my opinion.
	Yeah, a couple of things.
	I mean, one thing is, it's always very annoying.
	There's that meme of like, I'm not a Christian, but if I say this to you, maybe I can get you to do what I want, which is open your borders.
	And that's always very annoying.
	It's like, oh, I thought you were Christian.
	Why don't you want infinity boat people?
	But if the Pope says it, it's maybe a little bit different.
	When your average atheist says it, it's just a rhetorical technique to say we want to make you do what we want.
	But yes, but on the other point, you've got that global consideration that Fuentes points out there.
	And that is a consideration.
	And the irony of that is with the Church of England, that makes them slightly more base normally when someone like Welby couldn't quite say what he wanted to say because he knew he had Nigerians who would disagree.
	He wants to go full woke, but he knows he's the head of this global organization where lots of people actually are not woke.
	So he had to be a bit cautious the other way when it came to maybe things like gay marriage or abortion and so on.
	So they've got that consideration.
	But in this case, it's being used to make the Pope more lefty.
	Anyway, there's some of the different arguments.
	I mean, in summary, in the past 24 hours, Pope Leo has said being pro-life means more than just opposing abortion.
	Donald Trump's treatment of migrants is inhumane.
	Pete Hexer sounds like a reckless warmonger.
	Climate change is the defining moral issue of our time.
	He also blessed ICE.
	That's actually a Democrat guy celebrating it.
	So that's just a...
	I clicked, I was like, he's not like taking the...
	He's actually just saying great.
	Right.
	So he's just saying a win.
	So I don't know.
	So there's some different angles.
	Don't attack me, Catholics.
	Hopefully, we represented different views.
	Just thought I'd check in on the woke Pope, and that is my bit.
	Wonderful.
	Thank you.
	May I just have this mouse?
	I'll just go through some of the rumble rants from your segment.
	I've got Habsification says, there are reasons why I'm Eastern Orthodox.
	That weird pagan ritual that Pope did wasn't one of them.
	But I'm adding it on the list of why I'm Eastern Orthodox.
	And Connor's smug mug says, naming a child warrior is pretty popular across cultures.
	Bozyaga.
	I can't.
	How's your Pope?
	Why?
	Ozzyada.
	Connor, why are you doing this to me?
	Thank you.
	Voitek.
	Kazimiras, disturber of peace, and some other Polish names.
	I did know an Iraqi girl, Zaman, time in Arabic.
	That was one thing, actually, just to say from my previous segment as well, is that when Shabana Mahmoud was saying, oh, this came as a total surprise to me.
	I've never met a single Muslim called Jihad.
	Me go on Facebook, typing jihad, just lists and lists of names of Muslim men just with jihad in their names.
	It's like someone having crucifix as their first name.
	It's just like, it's a, well, obviously he knows, don't you think?
	Yeah.
	It's more like Crusade, isn't it?
	Yeah, that's called Crusade.
	That was the name.
	Crusade Smith.
	Okay, maybe I'm coming around to it all.
	I suppose in Latin America, you've got lots of Jesus as well, haven't you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Things like Angol Dei.
	No, they always call it Angel of Heaven, Angol De Jimenez or something like that.
	Anyway.
	That's right.
	And I'll just go through the YouTube comments.
	Catholicism has a long history of taking parts of pagan religions for converts.
	Easter eggs, Christmastime trees, etc.
	Who would have thought it would lead to this?
	False got.
	Mike Sernovich is the answer to that.
	All I know about the Pope is that he's a Chicago White Sox fan.
	Tells you everything you need to know.
	I'm the least.
	He's a baseball sectarianism.
	Yeah.
	On top of our religious sector.
	Sorry, it's wasted on us Brits, I'm afraid.
	Luke J says, the church has become woke when they are, when are we going to, when are we going back to nature and worshipping the Sky Father, Indo-European deity?
	Boomers ruined everything.
	And what boomers got to do with that?
	I don't know.
	A lot of people did call that a boomer-type ritual.
	That ice thing, the word boomer, came up many, many times.
	It was quite boomer.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And Luke is also asking me to grow the stash back.
	And hello, Luca.
	I'm really surprised.
	Luke, sorry.
	I'm surprised that I'm still getting these messages, but I'm sorry, Luke, that it's giving you such, such difficulty.
	I thought maybe you were referring to yourself in third person.
	No, no, someone photoshopped me the other day as if.
	Like tronking it myself, but no, not that.
	Anyway, over to you, Josh.
	Good news for South Africa, which is a rare thing, but I'm very happy for them.
	Particularly, the Afrikaners are a very hardy and respectable people, and I've spoken to many of them.
	And they're always so chipper and cheerful, despite the fact that from the outside, you'd think that they're clinging on for dear life in their country.
	But the wonderful thing is, Julius Malemma, one of the worst politicians in South Africa in the world, has had a little bit of a situation.
	And for those of you who aren't familiar, let's go through his greatest hit, shall we?
	Here's a little video of him.
	Sorry about it being grainy.
	Some of them are, unfortunately.
	I'm willing to condemn med more than willing boy.
	Wait, get off the mouse.
	Oh, it's not that easy to volume up, see?
	Not when Samson's moving the mouse.
	Oh, all right.
	Sorry, Samson.
	It's just the technology, I admit.
	Okay, let's hear that again and actually be able to listen to it.
	Oh, now I've got to refresh the page.
	Now, who's the boomer?
	See, I actually started.
	Samson, get back on the mouse.
	I'm never even here.
	Right, if it's reset the volume again, I'm going to do it.
	How quickly Josh has forgotten how to do it.
	But not of white people.
	I'm not going to play in the hands of white supremacy.
	I'm willing to condemn murder, but not of white people.
	I'm not.
	Hey, chill out.
	I'm not going to go that far.
	That's incredible.
	And he's saying this with lots of microphones around him.
	Not afraid of it.
	And then here's another one.
	Now, the way the sentence is structured, you say, we are not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now.
	That means at some future date, we may call for the slaughter of white people.
	Is that correct?
	Let's deal with that at that future date.
	I don't know what's going to happen.
	So you're saying you're not ruling out that in the future you may very well call for the slaughter of white people.
	It may not be me.
	That's not really the problem.
	Could it be me?
	Oh, my God.
	It could be me, yes, but it may not be me.
	Yeah, so it could be you.
	You could.
	So his main objections were: let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
	And the second one, it might not be me that does it.
	Neither of those really the point.
	But we're building towards it, folks.
	Trust me.
	Yeah.
	And then if he were a small figure, you know, maybe this would be slightly less concerning.
	But the problem is this.
	He has very large rallies and he has a decent amount of support.
	And they're, of course, singing their weird song.
	This is the extent of their political commentary that they jump up and down and say, kill people.
	Kill the boar normally.
	Which is not a call to violence, I've been assured by mainstream media.
	Yeah, which is absurd because we know these murders are going on.
	It's pretty widespread.
	They're also incredibly horrific.
	And there are people just explicitly calling for it.
	It can't be a rallying cry, can it?
	If it's actually happening.
	Do you know who I blame?
	The Spice Girls.
	And David Beckham.
	Because they all hung out with Nelson Mandela and legitimized him.
	So he was just.
	This is just the quiet part out loud of that kind of thinking.
	You're right.
	The entire West just mainstreamed him, didn't they?
	Oh, Nelson Mandela was very funny to go straight to Spice Skulls and see what they're saying.
	Well, no, you're funny.
	And you're right to call them out, singularly.
	Not enough people in politics are calling out the Spice Girls.
	But no, Nelson Mandela was a terrorist, and the ANC very much sympathetic to Malemma, as we're going to get to eventually.
	Here's another rally.
	Leo there.
	It is Leo.
	He attended this conference.
	Tallest man in the entire stage.
	Didn't even need a drone.
	They're a bit samey.
	I don't know why so many people turn up to these because it's just him on the spot doing this, apparently.
	That's his only hit.
	Yeah.
	It's like just bashing out Smells Like Teen Spirit over.
	It's just 1984, isn't it?
	It's just two minutes of hate, but for however long it needs to go on.
	So after all of that, you think, okay, this guy, contentious figure in South African politics, perhaps.
	Well, here's the ANC in May of this year.
	Why is my laptop gone black?
	No pun intended.
	Here they are talking about wanting him back in the party.
	After all of that.
	I feel the ANC has lost in complete jewels.
	The ANC will be better off with him inside the fold.
	We would love to have Julius Malema back in the ANC.
	He's still ANC down deep in his heart.
	So we would like to have those who are in the EFF back in the ANC because the ANC is their home.
	Don't listen to Winnie Mandela.
	Horrible woman.
	This is kind of equivalent to like, should Diane Abbott still be in Labour type of thing, but it's should Malema be in the ANC.
	I just found that amazing.
	They're all debating.
	Yeah, this is his real home.
	The killing white people guy.
	And of course, the ANC have been in government since the end of apartheid, since 1994.
	And although for the first time, they've got less than a majority, they are still the government.
	And I think there is some degree of self-interest there because if they get those EFF voters back, then they'll be back to a majority again and they lose some competition.
	But I do think that they're being genuine when they're saying that he belongs there.
	And so what you can sort of suggest is that although the ANC are a bit more careful because they've been the government for a very long time, they don't really see any problem with what Malema is saying.
	And so I think that they're just as culpable.
	And so let's go back in time a little bit to July of 2018.
	It was the EFF, Malema's party, their fifth birthday celebration in East London.
	Not the East London that we know.
	He wasn't in London.
	Stratford.
	They're not hipsters, no.
	Not East Cereal with a weird long beard and a flash in parking.
	This was the one in South Africa.
	And this is a video that has caused a very big political incident.
	That's it.
	That's all you need to see.
	Okay, message received.
	So I think that sounds like a real gun, doesn't it?
	I think that's pretty safe to say.
	And of course, we know that there are firearms in South Africa.
	They're not that hard to come by.
	And so it's not inconceivable.
	And this became a big scandal in the news.
	I found a news story at the time.
	And obviously, shooting in a crowded stadium in public with a firearm, which is reportedly not his because there was a raid on his bodyguards.
	And I'm going to read some of the details here.
	So it's just this at the top here.
	Police raided the bluff property of Adrian Sinman, I think, EFF leader Julius Malema's bodyguard last week.
	The raid came after Sinman was caught on camera handing over what was believed to be a rifle to Malema at the EFF's fifth birthday celebration in East London last month.
	Malema allegedly fired shots into the air with the rifle and later played down the incident when he said it was a toy gun.
	Pretty good toy gun.
	It sounds pretty real to me.
	And I think he fired 14 to 15 shots according to the court case that comes after.
	Malema and his henchmen, which I find a funny turn of phrase article now face arrest if police investigations confirm that the firebrand political leader had fired the gun.
	And now comes to Afriforum.
	So Afriforum represents the Afrikaans minority in South Africa.
	And I think they also might represent areas of Rhodesia or Zimbabwe, whatever you want to call it, as well.
	I can't quite remember.
	But they brought the case against him because, of course, being an Afrikaner minority, I think you've got a pretty strong incentive to get this guy behind bars because he's saying he wants to kill you.
	Tramping kill whites and firing guns.
	I think also he has clearly done something here on camera that appears to have broken the law, right?
	And I would like to point out that I have spoke to the head of public relations in an interview both on our website and on YouTube if you want to have a look.
	Ernst van Zeel, he's very good, actually very inspirational as well.
	He's telling us not to lose hope in the West and how even though things are further gone in South Africa, you know, they're still keeping on living a normal life.
	And it's a great interview.
	Very heroic.
	Yeah.
	So finally, after seven years, the court was finally willing to deliver a judgment on his firearms case.
	There he is, looking very sweaty and concerned.
	Blimey, that's an unflattering picture.
	So am I understanding right that what he's in court for is not the countless calls for murder and slaughter, but for a technical legal loophole to do with firing a gun on stage?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Although there has been some other stuff as well, which we'll get onto later.
	So while he was in the court, I would like to draw out how he was not taking it very seriously and he was arrogant and annoying.
	And, you know, pride cometh before the fool.
	And why don't you just fire towards their direction?
	It's none of your business.
	Oh, cheers, Samson.
	I'm just going to leave it to you now.
	You're the wizard.
	Why don't you just fire towards their direction?
	It's none of your business.
	It's my business where I'm firefruit.
	It's my event.
	I can even fire under the stage.
	If you so wish, I'll decide how I'm going to perform it.
	It's none of your business.
	You have no business with how EFF conducts its business.
	As long as it's lawful and it doesn't violate any law, where do you come?
	Ghana.
	Mr. Malema, the only logical explanation as to why you did that is because you knew that those firearm, those firearms were indeed real firearms that you've used.
	They an incompetent, incoherent, inferior prosecution is what you are trying to prove here.
	An abuser.
	Gotta respect the Trump-like just owner.
	Like, yeah, I can shoot a gun at my event.
	It's my event.
	Don't respect him for it.
	That's the first moment I was saying.
	Didn't like the killing white people thing, but I did like the response there.
	You know, it's a mixed bag.
	But obviously, he's in court for this.
	And it's like he's acting as if, like, why are you judging me?
	When it's a court, that's what they do.
	That's how it works.
	It's like a lack of comprehension.
	It's almost like he feels above the law because he's been threatening to kill people for years and getting away with it.
	That's almost the case, yeah, one could say.
	And if I could.
	Okay, lovely.
	It's already right in the right place.
	Samson, do your magic.
	Malemahak evaded many questions that had warranted a reply.
	It became evident that the replies were entertaining, but however, the pertinent questions asked remained unanswered.
	He further relied on clip three, and he had then counted 15 shots fired, and thereafter stated he cannot count he had graduated in woodwork.
	Further, as to how the court imagine saying that as the leader of a political party that you can't count to 15 because he graduated in woodwork, he's extraordinary.
	I thought it was bad that Starmer, I found out, got BBC in his A levels from a good school as well.
	Oh, an A level.
	And Shabana Mahmoud, you know, he did that out of solidarity.
	And Shabana Mahmood didn't even pass the 11 plus.
	So I'm like, why are our leaders much thicker than me who got A's and the third highest grade in the country on my history syllabus?
	Doesn't matter.
	It's not about me.
	The point is, imagine that.
	Do you know what?
	The other thing that stopped me here, I've been to South Africa.
	Have any of you been?
	I haven't.
	Willie, I was doing an advert there of all things.
	I was in an advert.
	Anyway, just remember the level of bureaucracy, the crapness.
	You know how our country is now so crap, you can't get a train to work, etc.
	But then you haven't seen anything until you've been to South Africa.
	You'll ask something, and there's a woman girl on the desk, and I just realized she wasn't doing anything.
	Like, you know, you need help.
	You're at a hotel.
	Can you blah, blah, blah?
	You're trying to check out.
	After a while, I was like, no, like, she's not doing.
	So just watching this, I had a terrible flashback.
	Imagine the bureaucracy of the court system in South Africa.
	Like, imagine how bad it must be.
	Just the incompetence level.
	Our court system is bad enough.
	Sorry, that's a separate point, probably.
	It's fair enough.
	I mean, this lady seemed to be pretty good, though.
	Although there were moments where she was just freezing and not saying anything, and there were people saying that Milema had bewitched her.
	No, it's just South Africa.
	It's just how they work.
	That's the pace that they move.
	I'm telling you, having been there once.
	Pace of life sounds good to me, to be honest.
	Yeah, until you turn it off.
	It was mine riddles with decline.
	Until you're trying to get anything done, I'm telling you.
	This is based on one experience.
	Sweeping judgments from one experience.
	Defining life experience.
	So, another thing that was interesting about his trial was people thought maybe he was drinking alcohol in the court, which is not good.
	That looks like a water bottle to me, and that's some sort of brown liquid there.
	Orange to me.
	It's been a point of much speculation.
	Right.
	Rape drink.
	And people were saying maybe it was vodka that he was drinking.
	Although, obviously, vodka is not that colour.
	Maybe it had a mixer in.
	But there's been much speculation.
	I've seen people suggesting it was Mavusan Kuti.
	I don't know how to.
	Obviously, I don't know how to pronounce that.
	Well done.
	You haven't been like me.
	I mean, I can decipher Afrikaans a little bit because I speak a bit of Dutch, so I can do that side of things.
	Any African language, I'm lost.
	No, I'm coming around to this guy.
	He's living his best life, drinking vodka, firing off guns, doesn't care what the law says, won't be talked down to by judges.
	I'm coming around to him.
	I love the killing white people thing, as I've said.
	So this thing is a herbal tonic to reduce impotence, they were suggesting.
	But people were also suggesting it was urine or petrol or kombucha.
	Just throwing any old guesses out now.
	There are also people suggesting, I think, as a joke, that he was drinking some sort of potion given to him by a Nigerian shaman.
	Much more plausible.
	Yeah, I immediately believe it.
	Much more plausible.
	Now we're getting to the bridge thing.
	It wouldn't be African politics without a bit of witchcraft involved.
	It always comes in somehow.
	I don't know how, but it always does.
	But anyway, here is the final verdict.
	You may stand up, accused one and two.
	Accused one, in respect of counts one.
	Second guy's the bodyguard.
	You are found guilty as charged.
	Accused two, Mr. Sneyman, in respect of counts four and six, you are found not guilty and discharged.
	Okay, so white bodyguard.
	The white bodyguard thing is freaking me out.
	I'm trying to just figure out: was that better or worse?
	Is that like in case people don't like the killing white people thing, then there's revenge against that, but he's got a white guy stood in the way.
	Some of our best bodyguards are white people.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He stands in the way.
	They're like, we don't want to shoot the white guy.
	Is that the logic?
	I don't know.
	It's very sinister.
	It's about why that guy wants to work with him.
	The guy that wants to think people killed.
	I suppose, you know, you want the best bodyguards, and a Western one might be better.
	I don't know.
	But so he was found guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm and ammo, discharging a firearm in a public place, which alone carries a minimum sentence of 15 years in prison, and reckless endangerment of people or property.
	So it seems like he's going away for a long time.
	And it's also worth mentioning as well.
	Oh, actually, I've got a little picture of him looking very sad afterwards.
	That is a good picture.
	That is a picture of someone's TV, but it's all I could find.
	That's when the potion kicks in.
	And you're like, oh, it's having too much.
	Voodoo potion.
	So one thing that's worth mentioning is because he was found guilty and his bodyguard wasn't, it might further radicalise his followers.
	You know, there was a white judge and his white bodyguard was basically got off, scot-free, whereas he didn't, and he's going to have a heavy prison sentence.
	How much further radicalised they can be, don't you?
	When you want to sort of kill everyone.
	I always feel like that's the outer limit.
	When you're turning up to rallies expressly to just cheer for death.
	Yeah, while shooting off guns, like, what's the next part?
	I don't know.
	They want death, but at a more accelerated rate.
	Yes, I guess.
	Well, as you alluded to in one of your earlier links, you know, he was just talking about, oh, well, it might not happen.
	Might not be me personally.
	But you can see the intent there, that that is what they're working towards.
	Absolutely.
	And it's also worth mentioning, this comes only a couple of months after this, where he was found guilty of hate speech.
	And this was again some great work from Afriforum, I think.
	And if I scroll down a little bit, it says, after an incident where a white man allegedly assaulted an EFF member, Malema said, no white man is going to beat me up.
	You must never be scared to kill.
	A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing.
	And of course, he's like a revolutionary communist.
	It seems to me like hate speech is like the least of his words.
	I mean, hate speech, everything he says is hate speech.
	Yes.
	The entire platform is hate speech.
	I'm going to kill a lot of people for their immutable character.
	Seems like a man with a lot of hate in his heart.
	Yes.
	I think that's fair to say.
	But the court said that these remarks demonstrated an intent to incite harm.
	I mean, have they noticed his party platforms?
	Have they looked at any of his videos?
	I know.
	And after the court judgment, he seemingly learnt nothing from any of this because he was up to his usual tricks outside of the court.
	I think people would be bored of this gimmick by now.
	Well, I mean, to be fair, Josh, they didn't condemn him for this.
	That is true.
	But they should be.
	Well, they should.
	But it's wild to have him taken down for that when this is really the crime.
	Exactly.
	And he has appealed the guilty ruling and is going to try and pursue this in court.
	But I'd be surprised because it's pretty cut and dry, isn't it?
	And I found this funny as well.
	There's a guy here talking about it.
	And let's see what he has to say.
	South Africans and the whole international Judas Malima have been founded.
	I like the little tub of Vasily of the picture.
	We, as the millions of South Africans, we agreed, also by a blade, that this little cockroach, he thinks that he's above the law.
	No.
	No.
	He said, some of it was difficult to understand, but he basically said millions of South Africans agree that he should be in prison.
	I would hope so, wouldn't you?
	So it does seem that the black majority, there are at least some people that are agreeing with his imprisonment, which is nice to see.
	Female blokes, it's like the normal ordinary blokes.
	Like here, they don't agree with that stuff.
	It's good to see.
	So Afri Forum released a meme, and obviously it's in Afrikaans, but I was able to decipher the caption.
	And it is: Good news, Afriforum said they would be glad to sponsor your new orange suit.
	And of course, there's an additional layer to this, of course, because, of course, Afrikaners, originally Dutch settlers, orange.
	So it's like an additional layer of humiliation, or at least that's how I interpreted it as.
	But they were, of course, the ones that brought this, and it's a great victory for them.
	And so I very much encourage people to support them.
	They're doing some really great work.
	And it's also worth mentioning that there are important implications as well, because, of course, the United States is looking to put sanctions on South Africa for the particularly the land expropriation bill, which allows the government to take land from largely Afrikaners who are the majority landowners and just give it to black Africans with no compensation for the original landowner.
	So it could destroy a farm and a holding that has been in multiple generations that has required a massive amount of labor to make fruitful, obviously disrupting their own food supply in the process, to just satisfy envy, really.
	Right.
	That's grievance.
	Exactly.
	And what they're trying to do is they're trying to lobby the US to put sanctions specifically on the members of the ANC rather than South Africa more generally.
	Because, of course, if they put it on South Africa more generally, then the Afrikaners will suffer those sanctions as well.
	And of course, with the Afrikaners actually having more infrastructure than the rest of South Africa, because a lot of them live in sort of parallel societies now with their own Western equivalent societies.
	Like parts of the Western Cape look absolutely gorgeous.
	And I've seen even places in the middle of the bush.
	They're like little oasises of civilization.
	And so obviously they need goods from the outside and importing these sorts of things because a lot of the areas aren't exactly the most industrious.
	No.
	And yeah, my parting message is this: that if you're in South Africa, best of luck to you.
	And it's great to see something that's actually good news from your part of the world.
	And stay safe.
	We do have a few comments.
	Right.
	We probably shouldn't read this, but I'm going to do it anyway.
	Trump should drone strike Julius Malema.
	Well, it was for $20.
	It was for $20.
	You get what you pay for at Lotus Eaters.
	And also, he's a horrible man.
	And, you know, if he were in England or what have you, he'd probably be declared some sort of terrorist.
	And we've got some YouTube ones as well.
	Have we read all these already?
	It looks like it.
	I think we have, actually.
	Okay, we've got some.
	Oh.
	Have we read all those, Samson?
	I don't want to miss anyone up.
	All right.
	Well, let's.
	We'll go to the video, Samson.
	I'll have a little nosy at the comments to see if.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I'm sabotaging you.
	I'm so sorry, Samson.
	Some nice kittens.
	Nice little palate cleanser.
	This is the good thing about video comments is that you can watch the most egregious things and then it'll just be like, oh, nice kittens are something.
	Okay.
	It's over.
	Hello, Lotus Eaters.
	I hope you like my new face.
	One of the reasons the fascists in 20th century Europe managed to rise to power was because they were the only ones trying to stop the violent communist revolutionaries.
	History might not repeat, but it sure does rhyme.
	The left's heads are too far up their bums to pay attention, and it is to their peril.
	I think I've had some of that South African voodoo juice.
	I've seen this one before.
	We've not seen it.
	No, I was familiar with it.
	I don't know.
	It's just very strange to look at.
	I think that when Law and Order breaks down over in the Americas, he is going to have a robot army ready to go, though, isn't he?
	So he's like the most prepared patriot.
	Yeah, it's like iRobot when they have not a good film either.
	It's just an army of robots ready to go.
	Hey, Lo Ceters, I'm at Bildwas Abbey in Shropshire.
	And just look how beautiful it is.
	Never been there before, it looks like it was a Cistercian monastery built in the 12th century and lasted all the way up to the 16th when Henry VIII decided to take the roof off the building.
	It's surprisingly well intact.
	There's this beautiful chapter house as well.
	Really nice vaulted ceiling.
	Yeah, enjoy that.
	The abbeys and the monasteries are such a beautiful part of the English character.
	It's just honestly.
	Well, what you were saying in your segment, Nick, about just the Catholicism and everything.
	I wasn't a fan of this part of English history, to be honest with you.
	It was pretty bad what Henry did to the monasteries.
	I agree.
	Why did he just take the roof off?
	What's the reason for that?
	I don't know.
	I want some soggy monks.
	Well, they pillaged them for all sorts of riches and resources, wouldn't they?
	I mean, one of the funny because when I did an epochs with Beau, talking about Thomas Cromwell, right, in his time as Henry VIII's, you know, top guy.
	He one of the things, little stories, was I can't remember which abbey it was, but it was some like rural abbey up in the north.
	And the inquisitors came and like checked the abbey to see if everyone was being moral and good and everything.
	And then they went away, you know, to decide on their verdict.
	And all the locals thought, oh my gosh, they're going to take our abbey away from us.
	And so they started to prep the defences, grab the pitchforks, what weapons they could.
	And what ended up happening was that when they returned with the verdict, they attacked them.
	And they were coming back to say, oh, you can carry on.
	And then after that, they're like, right, well, you're definitely getting shut down now.
	Oh, dear.
	Terrible.
	As an addition to my video about the 50 pence coin bearing the 1755 dictionary definition of a 50 pence, I've come across another 50 pence coin last week from 2007.
	This one is in commemoration of the century of the scout movement, which was founded in 1907.
	The reason I appreciate this one is because many of you almost certainly know of the scouts and have probably participated during your youth.
	It's a proud aspect of British culture which has spread far and wide beyond the United Kingdom and it's a rare example of a noble and universal endeavour.
	I urge you to look up the founder, Lord Baden Powell, as he has an interesting story to tell.
	As a member of the Scouts, it's very good.
	I think it is something that all boys should be involved in.
	It's all women now.
	Is it really?
	They said that women have to be Land of Scouts, didn't they?
	their own equivalent didn't they yeah they had the they had the girl guides you had the brownies and the i can't remember that's isn't it Oh, I can't remember.
	I only did it.
	I did the air cadets.
	That's what I was in.
	My sister did that, yeah.
	Big shoe.
	Yeah.
	Didn't last long in there.
	I didn't like being told what to do by kids slightly older than me.
	Look at that.
	UK scouts became fully mixed gender in 1991, did they?
	With 2007 making it compulsory for all groups to accept girls in all sections.
	That is true.
	There were some girls in my class, but they were in a small minority.
	And also, you know, I didn't really mind at that point.
	Wasn't it Cubs and Brownies?
	Cubs was the boys one, and Brownies was the girl.
	Anyway, Beavers, I can't remember.
	Yeah, Cubs was a little bit of a lot of brownies was girls, and Scouts was older than that, but I don't know.
	Shouldn't be any women anyway.
	That's my point with everything.
	Just in general, or just in the scouts?
	Most things, yeah.
	So very tired.
	Sorry, I'm a bit tired today.
	Yeah, I get up early to come here.
	Very nice graph of a clock here.
	Slow down.
	It's like what you would see in a film of someone who's a little bit more.
	Who agrees on that?
	Thanks for the strange mechanical horror, I guess.
	A beautiful bit of furniture.
	Beautiful clock, though.
	Okay, we got some comments, I believe.
	Yeah, okay.
	I'll just read some from mine.
	We've got Omar Awad says: The Islamic takeover of the Home Office is one thing, but you also have to wonder who in power and where would minimize the SAS in response didn't see that after Ruda Cabana killed three children and stabbed many others.
	No, I totally agree, Omar.
	As you're saying, just the level to which the state just organized and the rapid response was very, very telling.
	James Hayes says, Home Office Immigration Accessor, so you are from Syria and your name is Jihad.
	Welcome to Britain.
	Does seem to be the case, doesn't it?
	This is really a thing as well, isn't it?
	It's like, you know, when the Labour Party is saying, like, if you dare suggest deporting anyone and them not being British, it's like, right, but that's part of the reason that they're so crap at containment is because they're not even willing to acknowledge the fact that a single person, a single one of the total wrongs just in Britain, shouldn't be here, no matter how wretched or evil they might be.
	Like, not one.
	The more wretched, the better, one might even imagine that is the policy at the minute with the way things are.
	They'll be granting asylum to Julius Malmer before we know it.
	He's persecuted.
	Yeah.
	Come and talk about how much you want to murder white people in Britain.
	You'll fit right in.
	Andrew Narag says, if I had a nickel for every time Manchester had an Islamic terror attack, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice in a decade.
	Yeah, and to be honest with you, Andrew, there's no real reason.
	I see why not to think it should just happen again either, right?
	Yeah, well, because nothing has been done.
	It's even worse than that.
	It's that things are being done to make it more likely.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, and it's been compounded a lot since after the Manchester Arena bombing as well.
	Things have only gotten worse.
	Well, they're more emboldened.
	There's more ethnic division.
	There are simply more Muslims.
	The Home Office has its hands tied more, and there's no political will to do anything about it anyway.
	As well as the fact that if you point out that terror attacks are mostly a Muslim phenomenon, people call you Islamophobic, even though since 2005, it has been like 98% of all terror attacks with fatalities have been Islamic.
	So.
	But don't you dare believe your lying eyes.
	We've got AZ Desert Rat who says, kudos to this gentleman for blaming the person doing the stabbing instead of blaming the knife.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	All of those.
	Sentient knives in Manchester, apparently.
	All of a sudden, it's not about guns or knives.
	We get back to the actual source of it, which is, no, the intent to kill.
	And if someone intends to kill, they will find whatever means they can to do it.
	It's really that simple.
	And Rancelot says, we have concrete bollards in Melbourne now after an Islamic car attacker in Burke Street.
	My fiancé worked in the mental health ward that house them.
	He likes to break nurses' hands while they give him medication because what are they going to do?
	Sentence me more.
	I have an idea of how to cure him, and it's a specific kind of injection that means he can never reoffend again.
	And do you want me to read some from?
	I can read it.
	I mean, in my Pope section, Omar says, Modern Catholicism feels like Christianity for the modern audience.
	Watering down the law of a franchise speaks to a lack of faith in the IP.
	It's a good reference.
	Immediately.
	That is a very, very good.
	Guy from Hungary, a Roman Catholic here.
	During the Conclave, I couldn't tip who would be the next Pope, but I wish for a Leo.
	The Leo name being associated with the Crusades, Leo 10 being a great example.
	Leo 14 is not a lion, just a pussycat.
	I'm disappointed.
	Indeed.
	There was a good one here confirming what I said from Baron von Warhawk, Genesis 9:6.
	Whoever sheds the blood of man by man shall his blood be shed.
	For God made man in his own image, God to know it, as I said.
	If God himself is for the death penalty, then so should the Pope.
	I'm tired of our leaders bending over backwards to protect murderers and rapists.
	Fair.
	Fair.
	There was one other one I was going to read.
	As a bleached demon, as a Catholic, I'm frustrated by the continued watering down of the teachings constantly lurching into modernist garbage.
	Francis changed the death penalty teachings in 2018 and it's caused confusion ever since.
	It feels at times as a desire to divide Catholics from within.
	So, I like this comment.
	Lord Inquisitor Hector says, Your prosecutor just arrived, Mr. Malema.
	Courtroom door opens.
	Simon Quagga enters.
	Why are you gay?
	You are gay.
	If only.
	I want that crossover to happen.
	AZ Desert Rat, saying one can't count to 15 because they're a woodworker is complete idiocy.
	You have to be a master of geometry to be a successful woodworker.
	I don't know whether he's actually created anything of any value.
	Maybe a few gallows in his time, I imagine.
	Carl's evil twin Force says, Malema has the same attitude and facial expressions as Sasha Johnson.
	Maybe genetics does have something to play in the way we as groups act.
	Well, of course it does.
	He's right, though.
	The exact same energy from both of those people.
	Zesty King, Nick, what were you advertising in South Africa?
	It was actually a TV advert for Go Compare that I was acting in because they've all only had to be myself.
	You met so easy.
	Go Compare, man.
	No, no, they got rid of him, torture us in, then after testing us, they put him back.
	That was in my previous life as a celebrity before, of course, I was radicalised.
	And became a trip to South Africa.
	Right.
	By how slow they did stuff.
	But thank you, Zesty King.
	Well, that's all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.
	You can join us in half an hour for Radzawa, where we're going to be talking about all of the great British comedies.

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