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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the load seaters, episode one thousand two hundred and sixty-six for I couldn't help myself.
	Uh you've got to emphasize it.
	Uh for Friday, the third of October 2025.
	I'm your host Luca, joined today by Josh and Nick.
	Thank you to you both for coming in.
	You're welcome.
	And uh before we uh go through our segments today, I just want to remind you it is Friday, so we are of course having lad's hour a little bit later after the show at 3 pm.
	And we're going to be talking about the great British comedies.
	Something that I'm sure we all hold very dear to our hearts, and we all we'll all have our own favourites, and I'm sure we'll hash it out over which one is the greatest.
	You better bloody watch it, because it took me ages.
	Yeah, and it's literally the only topic I'm an expert in is comedy, apart from postmodern American fiction.
	So unless we're doing lads on that, this is going to be my the best one I've ever done.
	Anyway, so today we're going to be talking, of course, about the Manchester terror attack that uh we all horrifically witnessed yesterday.
	Uh we're then going to be talking about the latest woke Pope.
	They seem to just all be woke, really.
	In a respectful way that won't inflame the Catholics in the comments, hopefully.
	But he is quite woke.
	The Pope always has been.
	A respectful critique.
	And uh Luther Lutheran.
	And uh then we're gonna be talking about a rare win for South Africa.
	So with that all said, let's begin the first segment, shall we?
	So obviously um yesterday, really, as we were of course it stopped.
	Sorry.
	I'll never mind.
	I'll start again.
	So uh so yesterday, obviously there was an attack at a local synagogue in the north of Manchester in the Prestwich area, which oddly enough is actually uh an area of Manchester I'm quite familiar with uh because um I have some friends who happen to live in that part of Manchester.
	And so um yeah, it is a very diverse area, and um obviously um with a lot of the tensions that have been coming about from the streets due to foreign conflicts in the Middle East.
	There are a lot of people who are supporters of both sides of those conflicts here, and it feels like it's starting to come out in in violence, right?
	It's starting to come out in violence.
	I'm confused because I thought diversity is our strength.
	I know we've been told this, but I I really need you to try and forget everything you think you know.
	I'm experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance right now, yeah.
	I know.
	But um I do just want to say that so it seems that uh two people lost their lives yesterday.
	Uh we have uh Adrian uh Dolby and Melvin Kravitz, and obviously I'm very very sad for the lot their loss and the loss of their families.
	It's not something that anyone in Britain should have to experience.
	Uh wherever they're from, we shouldn't have people going out with intent to murder their foreign rivals.
	Right.
	I think that's pretty safe to say in the United Kingdom.
	It doesn't need to be said, but I feel like I'll just say it anyway.
	Um then if I go to here, because you wrote up a piece, Josh, for the for Courage yesterday.
	Basically just going through the actual details of what happened and and speculating on why it happened.
	Yes, that's if you see these eye bags under my eyes, it's because I've worked very hard recently.
	And I was up late last night writing all the details out.
	Um so let's talk about it a bit, shall we?
	So as you write, at uh nine thirty-one on uh Wednesday, uh sorry, second um yeah, sorry, Thursday, second of October, police received a call reporting that a vehicle had struck pedestrians outside the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation synagogue in Manchester.
	And according to Greater Manchester Police, the suspect drove into worshippers uh gathered for uh Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar, and then exited his vehicle and began stabbing uh the attendees, uh including a security guard who was left seriously wounded.
	And obviously, as I've mentioned, two individuals have lost their lives in this attack and many more seriously wounded.
	Three died, including the actual perpetrator himself.
	Yeah, and um the perpetrator, the murderer was was in himself shot, uh which is of course good.
	Um and then it says that two individuals have since been arrested in connection uh with the incident, and investigations are ongoing to determine whether or not the attacker had accomplices.
	I think that's very interesting because the fact that they arrested them so quickly as well that This was announced I think that morning of the attack, and within a few hours they'd already arrested two people.
	Right.
	So it seems to suggest that if they can find them that quickly, then there's a pretty strong link between them and the attacker.
	Otherwise it might have taken a little bit longer.
	Despite the fact that as we saw um reports coming out that apparently uh this man was not on the prevent list.
	Right.
	He wasn't on the terror watch list.
	I haven't actually heard that.
	Yeah, he wasn't on the terror watch list.
	Concerning.
	Which actually, just to skip ahead then, means as Dan points out here, uh, in a good point as Dan always makes, uh, yeah, he wasn't known to counter terrorism police.
	And so Dan says, So on top of the fact that one per cent of all Muslims are on the terror watch list, three hundred times more likely than any other group, the one per cent is also an undercount, right?
	Yeah.
	It's not just the people on the list.
	It's not sure if you're gonna get onto it, but in my article I mentioned how the home office has been infiltrated by over seven hundred I'm gonna use the word infiltrated.
	People might say a bit strong, but it is basically.
	Uh seven hundred Muslims who are lobbying to hire more Muslims into the home office um, as well as redefine what the prevent program is looking at, and the reason that the anti terror police have been looking at the far right more.
	I've got a good quote from Colonel Richard Kemp, who uh was formerly a chair of the Cobra meetings, the emergency meeting that Keir Starmer actually went to from Copenhagen yesterday after this attack.
	Um I don't think he personally was chairing it, but he was a former chair, and he basically said that there's a political push for this, but the fret between the left and right is not nearly as comparable as that of Islam.
	Islam's obviously the thing that people should be concerned about and it's he he explicitly says it's political.
	It is about politics and it's not evidence based.
	And I think the fact that there's a growing number of Muslims in the home office trying to say actually no, um Muslim terrorists were not bad people.
	You know, stop watching them.
	That's very, very concerning.
	As well as the fact more Muslims are coming into the country.
	Um, you know, we had the case of um that nephew of a Taliban commander being granted refugee status and bringing seven of his family along.
	Clown world.
	Yeah, not taking it seriously, are they?
	But the small boats means we have no idea who those people are, talking about the one percent and the unknown.
	Then you've got all those Afghans that that um Ben Wallace was so proud of bringing in.
	We don't know much about them, do we?
	No, not really.
	The secret Afghan smuggling Afghans into the country project, who was some of them as Dominic Cummings said, some of them are bound to be terrorists.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, it's all it's all very, very sinister and a reason why you can't trust any of the institutions to be on your side, which is um a broader discussion that we'll have in just a minute.
	Um still not working.
	Do apologize.
	Tech issues.
	Um but then there was another development, uh, and this was only in the past few hours as well, uh, which was from uh uh Sir Stephen Watson, chief constable of Great Manchester Police, and he goes on to talk say that um it's currently believed that the suspect, Jihad Al Shame.
	Interesting first name, isn't it?
	Name's literally Jihad.
	Right?
	I was uh I I was thinking about um after I read that, like a man called Jahad went on to be a terrorist.
	I was thinking, well, I I'm gonna think about my firstborn son's name, maybe Giga Cromwell 2.0 is a good start.
	Giga Cromwell two point oh firm.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	It's got a good ring to it, hasn't it?
	It does.
	Tragic, tragic event, but spare a thought for the mainstream media who have to try and spin this somehow.
	The guys literally called Jihad, and they're like, How can we spin this to make it seem like Oh well, we'll get there.
	He once watched Andrew Tate on on YouTube, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I mean that yes, you're right, people have managed to still try and spin it.
	Incredibly literally called Mr. Jihad.
	And is it and it basically means from Syria.
	But I don't know if you're not sure.
	No, no, please go on, Nick.
	Uh and but as it goes on here, he was not in possession of a firearm, right?
	All the the murder and violence that he committed was done with his knife.
	And his car.
	And his car.
	Sorry.
	And uh the only shots fired were from Greater Manchester police's authorised firearms officers as they worked to prevent the um offender from entering the synagogue and causing further harm to our Jewish community.
	It follows therefore that subject to further forensic examination, this injury may sadly have been sustained as a tragic and unforeseen consequence of the urgently required action taken by my officers to bring this vicious attack to an end.
	And so some of the actual victims were caught in the crossfire as well, and have also sustained uh bullet wounds.
	Right.
	They've also been it's there's um a couple of things to say about this.
	Um the first of which is that obviously it's very unfortunate, but in in the scenario, uh as what I've been able to sort of figure out from reading all the details of it, there were lots of people out of the front of the synagogue as sort of chaos and in crowds of people it's likely to happen, unfortunately.
	Someone's lost a life because they were accidentally shot by Oh, someone actually died from Yeah, sorry, I I should have read that before it says um that one of the deceased victims would appear to have suffered a wound consistent with a gunshot injury.
	That's very unfortunate.
	Um they had to act fac fast because the guy wore a fake uh belt, didn't he uh to look like he was a suicide bomber.
	Yes.
	Yeah, they they treated it as it was a bomb and only realised after they tried to detonate it that it wasn't actually um viable, as they called it.
	That was a correct calculation to make.
	Yeah, well they had to they had to shoot him, otherwise he could have killed far far more people.
	Absolutely.
	It's a a very unfortunate thing, I think, for the people who had to call the shots there in that situation, because obviously if you um don't act quickly and wait for the perfect shot, he could go on to kill more people.
	Yeah, and if you act very quickly, you could shoot someone yourself, and um yeah, I I don't envy the person who took that shot.
	And obviously I I feel very sorry for the people affected.
	Me too.
	And we have here so um let's just talk about who who who he was then, who was this guy?
	So as we've established his or his name was uh Jihad al Shemi, which as you say, Nick, is just um jihad the Syrian, right?
	Struggle struggle for Syria.
	Yeah, and then people start to speculate, well maybe that's um a fake name, but it's not.
	He was actually given that name at birth.
	Right.
	Imagine calling your kid that.
	I mean, it's like pretty much setting them up for what they're gonna be in life, you know what I mean.
	Speaks to the values of the father as well.
	But of course, as the media will tell you, jihad has lots of meanings.
	Okay, it doesn't just mean this, it means peace, blah blah blah.
	It mostly means fighting on behalf of Islam, though, doesn't it?
	That's the the mainly understood interpretation of what it means is you're deliberately fighting normally to expand the borders for Islam.
	But also, what's more, th this line about oh well jihad has so many different meanings.
	I'm sure it does.
	I'm sure it does, but why should I, as an Englishman, have to educate myself on any single one of them whilst just simply trying to navigate my way around England.
	Yeah.
	Dave just has one meaning, isn't it?
	Just Dave.
	That's about English names.
	They don't they don't mean all this other stuff.
	Someone will probably correct me and say, actually, I think you'll find there's always some origin to every name, obviously.
	Well, lots of biblical names have some degree of meaning, don't they?
	Like, you know, I've got Joshua, for example.
	Yes.
	And mine got mine's Christian, it's Nicholas, which comes from the Saint.
	But you know, like Dick's son literally means son of Richard at one point.
	It's a pretty simple system.
	You know what I mean?
	What's wrong with that?
	No not much confusion there.
	Um so as I say, he wasn't known to the counter-terrorism programme.
	And what's more, so he seems to have been granted citizenship back in 2006, when he was sixteen years old.
	That's insane.
	Right.
	So Blair era.
	Right.
	Yep.
	And decided to just go out and commit wanton violence.
	Uh three people, two men in their thirties and a woman in her sixties, uh, have been arrested on suspicion of the uh commission, uh put uh preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism.
	And uh Ralphie Bloom, a member of the synagogue and director of uh Fed, a Jewish social care charity, told Sky News that he was on his way to the synagogue when he got the call from a friend uh to warn him about the attack, and he said that the Jewish community has been uh fearing an attack such as this for two years, and that has been facing a tsunami of due hate since the war in Gaza started.
	Now obviously I'm not getting uh drawn into that conversation here and now.
	Um But obviously one thing I would say is I'm actually quite surprised that it's taken this long for something like this to happen.
	It's it was inevitable that it was going to happen because um one of the things I did come to realise, I think it was uh Cunley Druckperth or Druck Becunly, forget which way around.
	But um they pointed out that the the two areas of or two neighbourhoods in Manchester, are you gonna get to I'll get to it?
	Don't worry.
	Sorry, scatting about a bit here.
	Um I keep forgetting that doesn't work.
	Uh right.
	So Max Tempers here uh dug up this um Facebook post from the father.
	Right.
	So uh family statement.
	The news from Manchester regarding the terror attack targeting a Jewish synagogue has been a profound shock to us.
	The Al Shami family in the UK and abroad strongly condemns this heinous act which targeted peaceful innocent citizens.
	We fully distance ourselves from this attack and express our deep shock and sorrow over what has happened.
	Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims and their families, and we pray for their strength and comfort.
	We kindly request that all media outlets respect the family's privacy during this very difficult time and refrain from using this tragic event in any context that does not reflect the truth.
	Uh may God have mercy on the innocent victims, and we pray for the swift recovery of the injured.
	So already we we have the family not only distancing themselves from the actions of the son, but also saying don't speculate on it either, right?
	It's an interesting statement from someone who named his son jihad.
	Right.
	And this is what it comes to as well, because despite the fact that this was a man who was outside of the terror watch list, right?
	As you said, Josh, they very quickly found reason to arrest other potential collaborators who have helped him with this.
	And what's more we can't forget as well that yeah, his father did call him jihad.
	Yeah, and and not it's not like oh it's a common name.
	Shabana Mahmood said she'd never heard anyone call that.
	She's a Muslim, she's never heard of it before.
	So it's not like, oh, you don't get it, guys.
	We all call each other that it doesn't mean what you think is no, it's like aggregate.
	Well, depends which part of the Islamic world you're from as well, because she's Pakistani, isn't she?
	And they're Syrian, so maybe it's more common in Syria.
	I mean, it'd explain the uh the state of Syria over the past ten years or so.
	Yes.
	And so naturally we come to the position where obviously the media, the BBC, the Guardian, all of them, they all just go to work trying to find cover, trying to find you know, it was always going to be the far right's fault, wasn't it?
	Uh there are many people in journalism who will try to use this and are using it to divide us.
	You see, I thought that the murder was the source of the division.
	I thought it was already Norm MacDonald.
	Yeah, I wasn't even just like on autopilot, you know, norm just lives for us all.
	Just on the last thing, apparently jihad is used commonly in Arabic countries in the neutral sense of a struggle for a noble cause as a unis name given to children.
	Although I've got that from Wikipedia, so it could be anything, could be complete nonsense.
	Um, this news agents thing.
	It's absolutely disgusting, but of course it's also entirely predictable.
	And but this is the one that I found particularly wretched.
	Um which is them here saying Jewish people in the Manchester synagogue are not responsible for Israeli foreign policy.
	True, I agree with that.
	But likewise, Muslims going to a mosque are not responsible for what some crazy jihadists might do.
	Uh I wish we could separate these two things.
	Now, the reason that I really want to just drive uh into this is because let's not forget that a large reason that we have so many Muslims living in the United Kingdom is because we're constantly the line is trotted out well, your state bombed their countries.
	Right.
	So therefore, because the state did something, the general British public, right, has to just live amongst hordes of foreigners.
	I'm also suspicious if if someone bombed Britain, that the first place I would move to wouldn't be that country.
	No.
	That's a really weird thing to do.
	Yeah, the two things we hear are it's foreign policy, the wars you've had, the other thing is colonialism, it's revenge, essentially.
	There are two things you hear all the time.
	Um but the problem with this is the is the percentages mentioned before, I I can't remember the exact percentages, but a huge percentage of uh of the people on the terror watch list are Muslim.
	That's where that falls down because you can't really say of course the average Muslim, yes, is still not responsible, but it's not like oh it's just crazy coincidence, or it's just a lone crazy large percentage.
	We've noticed the pattern, haven't we?
	Yeah, we've noticed and um it's also worth mentioning as well that we we've seen opinion polling of people people's attitudes towards these things, and it's quite an alarming proportion of the community support these sorts of things.
	Yeah, it's not necessarily even a small minority either.
	Not saying everyone, um, you know, there are plenty of Muslims that are actually genuinely against this sort of thing, more westernized ones, particularly.
	As Douglas Murray was pointing out, you that you don't see massive condemnation of it from the peaceful people.
	You don't you don't see that a lot of them coming out and doing that.
	Maybe they're scared to do it.
	I don't know, but you don't see that very much.
	Well, very interesting, isn't it?
	Very often the response is just look, um this guy's gone out and committed an act of terror.
	Now please consider how we're most affected by all of this, right?
	That's what it always comes back to every single time.
	And but really here as well.
	Look, this entire point that it's like, well, Jewish people in the Manchester Synagogue are not responsible for Israeli foreign policy.
	Look, I agree, for one thing, they're on an entirely separate continent, right?
	They're um unless they're um Israeli dual nationalists, right, who brought in Netanyahu's government, right?
	They have no hand in what's currently going on now in Israel and Palestine.
	But the fact of the matter is that as you were getting to, Josh, and as Drukpa points out here, well, these boroughs of Manchester, you have 56% Jewish, and then 69% in one of the neighbouring boroughs.
	And so, regardless of whether or not someone should be uh persecuted and held account for what their state is doing with or without their consent, when you have all of these people out there with these ethno-racial wars going on, that is going to spill over into all the neighbours.
	It's also worth pointing out, can I pinch the mouse quickly that um on this second picture here?
	Um the actual um synagogue was on this road here, and then that Muslim district is here.
	Right.
	So it's easy walking distance, they're rubbing up right against each other there.
	And it is it it is uh as he points out a microcosm of the Greater Israel-Palestine conflict, because they're right next to each other, aren't they?
	They they're competing for resources fundamentally.
	What an insane thing to bring into your country.
	And did you see Sky News report where they she went and said, Oh, it's a it's a tolerant area.
	Everyone here has told me it's normally very tolerant multicultural areas, like listen to yourself.
	Like just don't believe you.
	Yeah, I don't believe you.
	Right.
	And the you have to repeat the the mantras of the the state religion which trumps everything else, right?
	Which is these are two warring religions, but actually the real religion is diversity is our strength, whatever you call that religion that we're all living under.
	So you have to go and you have to utter the mantras at the scene.
	I mean, how sick and deranged is that, but that that's the reality.
	There's also this weird thing where Keir Starmer is talking about those who sow division, but diversity is a form of division, right?
	Otherwise, it's not diversity in the first place, and so with diversity comes division.
	So it's been eight eighty years importing division.
	You sound to me just like an enemy of national renewal it's like Starmer's in the room with us now.
	Um and then obviously this happened to coincide with the Palestine protests that was going on uh down in London at the time, and as they often do, that got quite violent.
	I believe 40 people were arrested uh from this protest, bearing in mind that um you know they just got half a million to a million out for Tommy, and that ended up being nine arrested, right?
	So the conduct is uh not exactly on show here from the pro-Palestinian lot.
	But the thing is as well, right?
	It's remarkable how quick and how different the reaction has been from the British state, because obviously this has taken place in a synagogue of and because Jews are a minority.
	Every part of the state has just mobilized to get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible.
	There was no secrecy about the name of the attacker.
	We've not been left for days and days speculating in it all.
	Not had Oasis songs played We've not had Don't Look Back in Anger.
	Right.
	We've not had that.
	We've we've had actually your anger is totally justified, and we're going to do something about it.
	And but this is um another thing as well from uh Shabana Mahmood, you know, the uh home secretary who says uh we don't want our Jewish community to have to live a smaller Jewish life because of the fear of anti Semitism.
	Shabana, all the story of Britain for these past 80 years has been the story of us having to live a smaller and smaller life, right?
	The bollards around London, just all of these things just that we shouldn't didn't have to live with, didn't want, right?
	They've just been put in place and just left as permanent fixtures, right?
	Anyway, the British people could be protected from the current state as it is, is if we and in the next census, like dishonestly marked ourselves as Jewish, just say all of a sudden, like, oh wow, we've got a big population, we need to stop caring about them.
	Yeah, we we're so abused in this country, not to you know make it all about us, but um it's very frustrating to see such a different reaction.
	Obviously, you know, taking it seriously and doing something about it should be the default action.
	Yeah, I'm not criticising them for that.
	No.
	But what I'm saying is the absence of that uh when it's targeting native British people is very, very aggravating.
	Yeah.
	To put it lightly.
	There was a tweet.
	I wonder how most Brits feel when they hear Jews say they no longer feel safe in the UK, and it's like, yeah, fair enough, but we're not safe either.
	But on top of that, we get sent to prison for complaining about it.
	And you hear these comments like, What happens to the Jews first, and so on?
	It's like, yeah, this is disgusting.
	What happens?
	And I understand the state is quasi against you because they sort of tacitly support Palestine in in that conflict and all that kind of thing.
	You know, you can debate that.
	But there seems to be basically the the prevailing ideology isn't actually gonna side with Palestine more.
	So I can see and and they've been able to do all these protests on the streets and get away with very intimidating stuff.
	So I do understand all that, but it's a different level when it comes to whatever you call the non-Jewish native British Gentile, how we want to define us.
	Then it's just out and out hatred from the state and go to prison, and we won't even you can't even report on thousands of rapes because you'll be seen as racist.
	Like, let's not even let's cover it up.
	So it's a whole other level of absolute no one will even give lip service to the idea of oh, we've got to sort this, it will be shut up immediately.
	I mean, Starmer calling everyone far right in the wake of Southport, it was immediate.
	There was nothing about the victims, there was nothing about it was just immediately you're still scum.
	And and what's not, it doesn't matter why you're rioting, right?
	It doesn't matter how you feel.
	Yeah.
	So I don't think this I don't think this sort of regime's sense uh I don't think they're I don't think they're really on the side of Jewish people, but they're more than they are with the sort of native British weaving or callers who is absolutely hated.
	Yeah, it's a different level.
	Um and so we're we're at a position now where you know when we think about what's been going on here and all of these terror attacks, and of course they're all terrible, but when 7-7 happened, that should have been the first and last, right?
	It should have been the last, and yet they just keep going on, and there's a there's a reason why I've not just included loads of statements from like Keostarmer and all of the other politicians in this.
	It's because you know what they're gonna say, right?
	It's just such a copy and paste it's just an identicate response to the.
	You see Tim Farron's one, former leader of Lib Dems, one of the sort of semi-reasonable ones, what used to be.
	He says, after the outrage in Manchester, there are people on the streets tonight chanting for the annihilation of the world's only Jewish state.
	Racism is a feature of the far right, but sadly not of the far right alone, shameful.
	So he said more than most politicians will say, but he still threw in the far right completely for completely no reason.
	They really can't their worldview, as we know, can't handle this at all.
	And it's absolutely stretched a breaking point now.
	The news agents is about as far as you can stretch it, the insanity and the gaslighting.
	Yeah, but it's not gonna go much further.
	But it it's evil and it's costing lives, yeah, is what it comes down to.
	Uh Rupert, on the other hand, is much more on the money as usual, where he says we must stop importing those who hate Britain and wish to do us harm.
	We must start deporting those foreign nationals who hate Britain and wish to do us harm.
	If that means revoking citizenship from dual nationals on an industrial scale, then that is what must happen.
	We must stop tolerating the intolerable.
	This has gone on for too long.
	Uh with too much harm, death, and suffering inflicted along the way.
	Some will come from France on the dinghy, others will come into Heathrow or Gatwick, regardless of the route of entry.
	If a foreign dual national holds such a visceral hatred of Britain and our people, then they should be forcefully removed.
	The number is irrelevant.
	I fear that it may be far larger than even I expect.
	Terrible, avoidable atrocities will continue to happen until politicians grasp this nettle.
	No more thoughts, no more prayers, action.
	Good statement from Rupert there, as always.
	Yeah, as always.
	It's so d uh depressing how he's such an outlier in Parliament.
	He's the only one.
	I mean when he sort of first started saying something like, oh, there's a guy that's sort of actually representing me, then it was immediately like get out of reform.
	So it's a kind of a freak thing that he's even in Parliament.
	Yeah.
	The one normal person saying the obvious while they try and gaslight us into oblivion.
	Well when the when they're saying, you know, oh you know, ki the far right is stoking up revision.
	It's like, no, we are trying to find prop um solutions to the division, right?
	We're trying to deport the many, many Britain hating people who are here.
	Deportation is the most civil way of dealing with this problem.
	It is.
	And and so if they're refusing to allow us to deport the problem, then that what they're doing is building up pressure and making a violent response, more likely.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Alright.
	Uh I'll just read uh and no comments from YouTube.
	Oh, alright then.
	Well, uh head over to your segment, Nick.
	Okay, well let's see if the tech works for my segment, because then you'll you'll see some real boomers.
	I'll try now that I've finished, I'll try and plug it.
	The old unplug and plug back in is a classic.
	It actually works though.
	Always works everywhere.
	This must look quite dodgy on the camera.
	Luca, what are you getting out?
	It won't go in.
	Well, yours should be right, they should be back.
	Maybe like give it a go.
	Have a go.
	Sorry about this, ladies and gentlemen.
	It works.
	Horrillo.
	Okay, there we go.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Awesome.
	So this segment is called something like Is this the most woke pope ever?
	But quick disclaimer, mainly so I don't get attacked in the comments, because as I said, if I do get attacked, I just won't do the podcast anymore.
	As I said to Josh earlier, I'll just simply take my ball and go home.
	Nick, but no.
	But the reason is that you shouldn't attack me, guys, is it's not an attack on Catholics, but this is looking at different Catholic views on the Pope, some of whom are not thrilled and some are okay with it.
	Um and it does happen with all Protestants, I found out just before, but that's a mere coincidence.
	Although these two are atheists anyway, so really I'm closer to the Catholics than these two.
	I did point out that even though I I am not religious, I still join in on the sectarianism.
	Right, you just I don't miss out on the good stuff.
	Yeah, but you guys, to me, as atheists, you're you're basically Satanists, and I'm basically with the Catholics, really.
	So thanks, Nick.
	Yeah, watch what you say or sacrifice you.
	If I had to get on with the comments, I'll just sacrifice you two instead.
	Anyway, let's look then.
	Is it if is this the most woke pope ever?
	So the Pope here has blessed a block of ice at a conference called Raising Hope for Climate Justice, and maybe we can have a quick look at this here if I can work the tech.
	I would now like to invite you to stand for the blessing of the waters.
	We turn it up.
	Yeah.
	Can I turn it up?
	It's a great question.
	Yes.
	Well done.
	people don't understand it's like having parkinson's using this thing So for anyone just listening, this is the Pope blessing a block of ice.
	It's very exciting, listening.
	It's quite relaxing.
	I'm quite relaxed, actually, just watching this, I have to say.
	Then they sing a song.
	They're gonna release that bit of ice back into the wild now.
	It's gonna go back to its ice cap friends and and regrow.
	I was taken to a big room of life.
	Bless this water.
	Cleanse our indifference.
	Soothe our grief and renew our hope.
	Through Christ our Lord.
	Well it's pretty much that.
	You get the idea.
	We won't play the whole five minutes fifty, but you get the idea, they sing a bit later.
	Now some people say, well, this is just blessing water, this is this is a normal Catholic thing.
	So some people have said it's completely fine.
	Um Calvin wasn't one of them.
	He he Calvin puts it Wahlberg shaking head gift there, so he wasn't too happy.
	And of course, um in case you're wondering, Arnold Schwarzenegger was obviously there.
	He was part of it, um waving this.
	Mr. Freeze was there in the world.
	Mr. Freeze was there waving I'm not gonna I'm I don't know really know what's happening right here.
	But do that in preschool and have a parachute with beanbags.
	They're waving a large cloth for the listener.
	We were and that's all I can tell you, really.
	It's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	Um he's there and he was he did a speech saying guy there are one point three billion Catholics.
	He was sort of impressed with the numbers.
	Tremendous great enough tremendous numbers was his sort of thing.
	But um not all Catholics were happy about this.
	Matt Walsh, not thrilled.
	Fair to say he says horrific the whole thing, Pope Leo blesses a block of ice and then stands there while these communist freaks do some kind of weird pagan earth worshipping hippie ritual.
	The leader of the Catholic Church shouldn't be anywhere near this nonsense.
	What the hell are we doing here?
	No question mark.
	Um That sounds like it's uh taken straight out of Gran Torino or something, isn't it?
	Who knows, yeah.
	Yeah, I come across someone who shouldn't have yeah.
	Um yeah, he can be grumpy old Walsh there, but he's a you know he's a he's a he's a Catholic any he's now it's not all Catholics feel this way, he he does though, and um whole math says it's worse than you know, Matt, this is the tip of the iceberg.
	Oh someone had to say it.
	Someone had to terrible actually.
	Now, this uh groper here says uh cla collated a load of people sort of attacking the Pope based on this and said that's actually you're doing the wrong thing, Matt Walsh, because you are encouraging attacks on Catholics.
	And this person says, Do you feel any shame that your comments today got these responses from non-Catholics?
	You even made someone question why they're going through RCIA, which is the right of Christian initiation of adults as part of the Catholic confirmation.
	Um but Matt Walsh doubles down, he says, right, the scandal is not that the Pope took part in a pagan climate justice ritual, but that I commented on it.
	You should definitely keep po pointing the finger of blame at commentators rather than the church leaders who are actually doing these things.
	Fair comment, to be honest.
	Um and so there was further controversy though, not just the ice thing.
	So um the cardinal Cardinal Shupitch, who is the Archbishop of Chicago, amongst other things, gave a lifetime achievement award to Senator Dick Durbin, who is known to have been a lifelong supporter of abortion.
	So this hasn't gone down well with Catholics.
	Uh and this received more than 40,000 signatures in a petition against it.
	So the Pope was sort of door stopped essentially.
	He was kind of like some people said it's like a football manager.
	He was like being haranged and asked questions about this.
	So he was, well, not forced to, but he was asked to answer on this.
	I just wanted to ask one thing that has become a bit of a divisive subject in the US, right?
	Right now, with Cardinal Supic um giving an award to um Senator Durban.
	Some people of faith are having a hard time with understanding this because he is pro um or rather he's for legalized um abortion.
	How would you help people of faith right now?
	Decipher that, feel about that, and how do you feel about that?
	I'm not terribly familiar with the particular case.
	Um I think that it's very important to look at the overall work that a senator has done during, if I'm not mistaken, 40 years of service in uh the United States Senate.
	I understand the difficulty and the tensions, but I think um as I myself have spoken in the past, it's important to look at many issues that are related to what is the teaching of the church.
	Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favour of the death penalty is not really pro-life.
	So uh someone who says that uh I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the uh inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States.
	I don't know if that's pro-life.
	So they're very complex issues.
	I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them.
	But I would ask first and foremost that there be greater respect for one another and that we search together both as human beings, in that case as American citizens or citizens of the state of Illinois, as well as as uh Catholics, to say we need to, you know, really look closely at all of these ethical issues and and to find the way forward as church.
	Church teaching on each one of those issues is very clear.
	Thank you.
	I'm look, as you've been uh very keen to remind me, I'm merely a satanic atheist, um, and therefore no Catholic theologian, but I would have thought there would be a difference between, say, an unborn child in the womb and um like a murderer on death row.
	I was gonna say exactly that same thing, yeah.
	Yes, and many have said this, and that according to many was the the church's teaching until very recently.
	And so, yes, it's not gone down well with with many Catholics, and of course the migration thing was a strange comment as well, to tie being uh to tie up the issue of abortion to anti-immigration sentiment, it seems very strange.
	Yeah, and also if you're in f if you're against abortion, you have to be for open borders.
	Yeah, this is uh tenuous, it seems to me, but hey, I'm not a Catholic.
	But let's look at what some Catholics say.
	I mean, Pascal here says, I know there's a good chance I'm witchcasting, but if you read what he actually said, this is actually fairly okay.
	He's not taking a position on the death penalty or anything else, he's just using these examples to make the point that a politician may not check every box of Catholic teaching but still be broadly in line with the church or deserving to be honored, which is true.
	It's perfectly easy to imagine him flipping the issues and saying something similar about JD Vance.
	But is it because one thing I didn't mention earlier is that there was lots of controversy when this Pope came in, is he woke, is he based, and people were trying to figure it out, and there were some tweets that seem to be anti-Trump things that he had reposted.
	So there was always that s suspicion with him.
	So anyway, Matt Walsh again replies to this.
	If a politician supports abortion, he is not in line with church teaching to any meaningful degree whatsoever, and should not only be disqualified from lifetime achievement awards, but should obviously be excommunicated.
	Abortion is not just one issue that Catholics can have differing opinions about to support abortion publicly, much less to fund and facilitate it, as Durbin has for 40 years, is to be in a state of grave mortal sin and open rebellion against God and the church.
	It should not be difficult for the Pope to say this or for any leader in the church to say it.
	If if I were a Catholic, it'd be this kind of Catholic.
	I think that this is a much better argument than the counterpoint.
	But also this type of argument feels actually eternal, right?
	It feels authentically Catholic.
	Whereas the position from, well, I I you know, if Pascal's right about it, but it still means that it just feels like it's pandering to a fads, progressive fads of the day, right?
	It's trying to make Catholicism accessible to progressivism, as opposed to being authentically itself.
	This does seem like the moral argument as well, the more moral one, certainly.
	Yes.
	Yeah, there's a very interesting point on what you said, Luca, later.
	But and Michael Knowles agrees pretty much with Matt and adds something else.
	He says, with a sufficiently broad definition, one cannot kill a spider and be pro-life.
	A term one recalls me going to hell then I always put them outside, which is a bl apparently that doesn't help either.
	Anyway, a term one recalls which is a political slogan rather than a precise moral category.
	So let's put it more bluntly.
	Cardinals should not give lifetime achievement awards to infants uh infanticidal politicians.
	So, yeah, and just anyone forgot, basically there, he gave the lifetime achievement award to this Durban guy.
	We'll find out in a minute, he actually ended up refusing it.
	But um another take, Seth Dil Seth Dillon very much agreeing again.
	Someone who says I'm against abortion but in favour of the death penalty is not really pro-life.
	This is a shocking error from an authority in the church.
	The pro-life position is that it's wrong to intentionally kill the innocent and defenceless, not the guilty and dangerous, Josh's point.
	And put putting dangerous convicts to death is one of the the many ways we protect the innocent.
	Well, you both said that.
	It's the yeah, clearly a very strong point.
	There's a lot of people protesting the Pope, aren't there, here that are Catholics, yeah.
	And I would protest interesting.
	Yeah, one of whether it's certainly hot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's happening again, folks.
	It's gonna be bigger and better than ever.
	Slightly different view here.
	This person points out Francis re revised the catechism on this.
	The church teaches in the light of the gospel that the death penalty is inadmissible because it's an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person, and she works with determination for its abolition worldwide.
	So, but then the people just counter that by saying, Well, Francis was woke anyway, the last guy was woke, so even if he revised it, yeah, he was just also woke.
	A big fan of like liberation theology and the likes.
	I did a little digging into that, and it's all madness.
	It's basically like theological Marxism.
	It's is terrible.
	The crazies always rise to the top, don't they?
	They do.
	So Mike Senovich, who actually follows me and retweets me sometimes.
	Smart cookie.
	He says he's a smart cookie.
	He says um the Pope couldn't last five minutes on quite out of, by the way if people wonder why I'm squinting because there's a light going right across it.
	The Pope couldn't last five minutes on pints with Aquinas or Michael Knowles, and they would be nice.
	Someone not as nice would shred him.
	The Pope posted slop.
	He morally equated a murder with an unborn child, read it to your atheist slot.
	No offense to you guys on the atheist bit.
	Non-take.
	Alright, we don't believe in anything anyway.
	And Pozo says the same.
	I can't believe people are defending what Leo said here, just went full woke.
	The Bible is explicitly pro-death penalty, as was the Roman Catholic Church herself for millennia until about five minutes ago.
	True.
	Certainly nowhere is pro-death penalty.
	God says uh you know, if someone spills the blood of somebody, you have to spill their blood because what they've done is so heinous.
	I admit that's old testament.
	That's as far as I got.
	I was like, yeah, I'm sticking with that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I I stuck with that part.
	Um Luca's earlier point, Cernovich says he could have chosen any other issues.
	He deliberately used far left wing culture war wedge issues rather than say marginal tax income rates or long-term capital gain exemptions for the sale of a primary residence.
	I'd love to see the Pope having a view on that.
	Excuse me.
	What do you think of any what do you think of long-term uh capital gain exactly?
	Well, my child.
	The Pope comes out and says taxation is theft.
	The tithes are not.
	Full on hand capped Pope.
	Um, it's a loopholes so you don't have to render them to Caesar.
	Slightly different take, just as I'm being balanced given different Catholics the views here.
	I'm not being all, you know, uh yeah, uh what's the word?
	I was gonna say Protestant.
	Yeah, partisan, thank you.
	What's that?
	I don't get much sleep when I do this podcast, guys.
	That's an obvious word for an English English masters.
	Um the award was specifically in recognition of his singular contribution to immigration reform and his unwavering support of immigrants, which is so needed in our day.
	It has nothing to do with his support of abortion or in an alignment with the church.
	The church has the right as it has traditionally done to honour a person for a specific good deed, even when not in full alignment with all church teachings.
	This is the point the Pope is making.
	Even non-Catholics and atheists have in the past been beneficiaries of the church honours.
	So the argument there is it's not about the abortion thing, chill out, it's just about the immigration thing, which I thought was a slightly strange argument.
	Yeah.
	Which Matt Walsh again obliterates so it's appropriate to give an award to a man rage tweeting at 5 a.m.
	So it's important to give it's appropriate to give an award to a man who participated in facilitating the fund and funding the mass slaughter of children because he also was an advocate for open borders and the destruction of our national sovereignty.
	This is one of the worst things about weak leadership in the church.
	It compels otherwise good and faithful Catholics to humiliate themselves by defending things they know are indefensible.
	I must say, I thought that was a strange argument.
	It wasn't for the important thing, it was for the immigration thing.
	Yeah.
	Like, yeah, all so bad.
	I think that the point they said about they don't necessarily have to be giving an award for the entirety of someone's existence.
	That seemed reasonable.
	But the example of oh, it's for open borders, yeah, get lost.
	Yeah.
	And he did end up turning it down, Durban, as I said, because it was just too controversial.
	Um yeah.
	So Cernovich was ahead of this.
	He says, sorry, Catholics, this new Pope is an open borders globalist, he'll be pushing for abortion soon.
	This isn't a guess you can scroll his ex accounts and see what he's been up to.
	And this was it, he tweeted this back in May, and it was things like this.
	It was a certain repository done, basically, and that was what that was where the controversy arose from.
	So Cernovich was ahead of the game.
	Now the question is can I get out of that tweet?
	If you click the X on the top left.
	Yeah, in theory, but people don't realise moving this mouse is actually much harder than a conventional mouse.
	If you like me to do it for you, no, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there.
	There we go.
	Well done.
	You just look like don't want any help from them.
	You can't be atheists.
	People don't realise at home.
	It's hellishly difficult.
	Anyway, no pun intended.
	Um so Pozzo says the account was right there, the tweets never lie.
	Um, some other points, Roreg Nationalist, who was recently on my podcast, check it out.
	Here's a prediction, Pope Leo will give his blessing to climate migration scene.
	The idea that tens or hundreds of millions of third worlders must be brought to the West in advance of climate change, making their homes uninhabitable bookmark.
	Well, the world, if he keeps nicking the rice, just keep taking the rice, don't they?
	Climate won't change.
	And the did you say rice or ice?
	Ice, oh right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Rice.
	Nick in both.
	He hates the Far East.
	Catholics are backing Japan again.
	And um Cerno points out what's funny about all this is that a supposed racist all wanted the based African as Pope.
	Nobody wanted a shitlib from Chicago, which is why the Vatican, Lavender Mafia selected him to usher in a far left wing globalist agenda of Bolshevik terror, typically on the fence for Mike there.
	Um, another one, dissident West, don't know if that's some Indian account or what, but no disrespect.
	No disrespect to my Catholic friends, but I don't see how you can possibly defend this.
	Christians are being genocided in Nigeria.
	Speaking of Africa, and the Pope is praying over block of ice for peace, climate change Marxists, make it make sense.
	There is that, you know, we've got that genocide in Nigeria, or some people are calling it.
	And why not talk about that, for example?
	But there is one.
	Well, there are some Catholics who have a different take.
	So I want to try and give all the different takes.
	So this chap, here's the cool thing about being Catholic.
	I don't have to make it make sense because regardless of what the Pope does, the Catholic Church is still the Church of Christ.
	When Protestants are scandalized by their pastors, they just hop on to another church, because in their theology, a church is a church is a church, but I have nowhere else to go, nor do I want to go anywhere else.
	Whether the Pope is on point or far left field, I know one thing to be true, the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ and is protected by the Holy Spirit.
	So I wanted to give that take as well.
	It doesn't matter what the Pope says about political things.
	And there is one other young Catholic who had a very similar take, weirdly, and I thought we would uh play this different take on it from another Catholic chat.
	Jared Taylor had a post today, he said this Pope was betrayed his people, he was an advocate for mass migration.
	It's like, okay, sorry, the Pope isn't a white nationalist.
	Sorry the Pope isn't like uh of a confederate.
	Like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, the vicar of Christ on earth.
	And I respectfully, I'm sorry the vicar of Christ on Earth, the Supreme Pontiff is not like a low former clansman, like sorry, he's not more like um who's that guy that speaks at Amran every year, you know.
	Sorry, he's not a neo-confederate.
	And and don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the Pope on mass migration, but it it it does need to be considered that he is speaking for humanity as a whole, and not necessarily the United States or even Europe for that matter.
	He's speaking for humanity as a whole.
	Now, you may disagree with that as a white person, and I certainly do, but this is a planet with a lot of poor brown people in it.
	It's just the truth.
	If you're the head of a global institution, if you're the head of the Catholic Church, you know, Catholics have to acknowledge this.
	This is not a white nationalist organization.
	It is a universal institution.
	And it just so happens that the state of planet Earth today, like it, love it, gotta have it, you know, uh, cold stone.
	Whether you like it, don't like it, whether you hate it, it's a lot of poor brown people.
	And I don't necessarily agree with what the Pope says about how America should conduct its business, but for him to be empathetic to the plight of the global poor that are migrating from destitute, poverty, anarchy, and chaos, you can sort of see where he's coming from.
	Alright.
	So he wants that.
	Yeah, different take from that clean-cut young Catholic man.
	And that was about the previous Pope Francis, but it's all the exact same points.
	Yeah.
	It all it all applies.
	Well, this was one of the things, because I remember uh uh doing a segment where I covered the death of the last Pope, and we were looking at the election of who was going to be the next Pope, and this is just what you what you realize that because of the state of the globalized world that we're living in now as well, it means that the Catholic Church has more areas of the world to represent.
	You know, gone are the days when it was merely a question of Europe and the Middle East during the era of the Crusades, right?
	It has to give moral consideration now to Asia and Africa and Latin America.
	Over the past thousand or so years, the the Pope's seat was sort of seen as a way of jockey for power between European powers, pretty much.
	And so there was a lot of competition to get, you know, someone from France or Austria, obviously Italy, and and or even Germany, um, you know, depending on where you were.
	the the only thing that I would say, of course, sort of um from my uh atheistic uh perspective against the Pope's ideas about mass migration, of course, is that even though it might be deemed compassionate to help uh the poor, you know, global south in this way, it's not compassionate to the people that you're forcing them on.
	And all you're actually going to end up doing is degrading the standards and the quality of life of the place that they're uh going to whilst also simultaneously impoverishing the lower south as well because you're depriving it of all of the people that could work and labour to make it better.
	I also think compassion's got to be applied appropriately.
	Like i if you can't build a successful country and therefore you've got to move to another country and lower the living standards of their country, ride on their coattails to civilization.
	That's not really someone who deserves compassion, in my opinion.
	Yeah, a couple of things.
	I mean, one thing is it's always very annoying there's that meme of like, I'm not a Christian, but if I say this to you, maybe I can get you to do what I want, which is open your borders, and that's always very annoying.
	It's like, oh, I thought you were Christian, why don't you want infinity boat people?
	So but if the Pope says it maybe a little bit different.
	When your average atheist says it, it just it's just a rhetorical technique to say we want to make you do what we want.
	Um but yes, but on the other point, you've got that global consideration that Fuentes points out there, and uh and that is that is a consideration, and the the I the irony of that is with the Church of England, that makes them slightly more base normally, when someone like Welby couldn't quite say what he wanted to say because he knew he had Nigerians who would disagree.
	He wants to go full woke, but he knows he's the head of this global organization where lots of people actually are not woke.
	So he had to be almost be a bit cautious the other way when it came to maybe things like gay marriage or abortion and so on.
	So they've got that consideration.
	But in this case it's being used to make the Pope more lefty.
	Anyway, there's some of the different arguments.
	I mean, in summary, in the past twenty-four hours, Pope Leo has said being pro-life means more than just opposing abortion.
	Donald Trump's treatment of migrants is inhumane.
	Pete Hegser sounds like a reckless warmonger, climate change is the defining moral issue of our time.
	He also blessed ice.
	That's actually a democrat guy celebrating it.
	So that's just uh I find I think that's like he's not like taking the he's actually just saying great.
	Right.
	So uh he's just saying a win.
	So I don't know.
	So there's some different angles.
	Don't attack me, Catholics.
	Hopefully, we represented different views.
	Just thought I'd check in on the the woke Pope, and that is my bit.
	Wonderful.
	Thank you.
	Uh may I just have this mouse?
	Uh I'll just go through some of the rumble rants from your segment.
	Uh I've got Habsification says, uh the there are reasons why I'm Eastern Orthodox.
	That weird pagan ritual that Pope uh did wasn't one of them.
	Uh but I'm adding it to the uh on the list of why I'm Eastern Orthodox.
	And uh Connor's smug mug uh says naming a child warrior uh is pretty popular across cultures.
	Um I can't why why Connor, why are you doing this to me?
	Uh thank you.
	Voytek.
	Ca Kazimiras, uh disturber of peace and some other Polish names.
	Uh I did know an Iraqi girl, uh Zaman uh time in Arabic.
	That was one thing actually, just to say from uh my previous segment as well, is that when Sh Shabana Mehmud was saying, Oh, this came as a total surprise to me.
	I've never met a single Muslim called jihad, me go on Facebook, typing jihad, just lists and lists of names of Muslim men just with jihad in their name.
	It's like uh someone having crucifix as their first name.
	It's just like is this well obviously nose, don't you think?
	Yeah.
	It's more like Crusade, isn't it?
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	You're called Crusade.
	Crusade Smith.
	Okay, maybe um maybe I'm coming round to it as all.
	I suppose in Latin America you've got lots of uh Jesus as well, haven't you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Um things like Angle angle they no, they uh they always call like Angel of Heaven, they Angle De Himines or something like that.
	Anyway.
	That's right, and uh I'll just go through the YouTube comments.
	Uh Catholicism has a long history of taking parts of pagan ri uh religions for converts, uh Easter eggs, Christmas time uh trees, etcetera.
	Uh who would have thought it would lead to this?
	Uh Volso got.
	Mike Sarnovich is the answer to that.
	Um all I know about the Pope is that he's a Chicago uh white White Sox fan, uh tells you everything you need to know.
	Uh I'm the least baseball sectarian, is it?
	Yeah.
	On top of our religious sector.
	Sorry, it's wasted on those Brits, I'm afraid.
	Uh Luke uh Jay says uh the churches become woke when they are uh when are we going to uh when are we going back to nature and worshiping the Sky Father Indo European deity.
	Uh boomers ruined everything.
	And uh what boomers got to do with that.
	I don't know.
	A lot of people did call that a boomer type ritual.
	That ice thing, the word boomer came up many, many times.
	It was quite boomer.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And uh Luke is also asking me to grow Lestache back and um Luca.
	I'm really surprised uh Luke, sorry, I I'm surprised that I'm still getting these messages, but I'm I'm sorry, Luke, that it's giving you such such difficulty.
	I thought maybe you were referring to yourself in third person.
	No, no.
	Uh someone photoshopped me the other day as if it's like trunking it myself, but no, not that.
	Anyway, over to you, Josh.
	Good news for South Africa, which is a rare thing, but I'm very happy for them there.
	Uh particularly the Afrikaners are a very hardy and respectable people, and I've I've spoken to many of them, and they're always so chipper and cheerful, despite the fact that from the outside you'd think that they're you know clinging on for dear life in their country.
	Um but the wonderful thing is uh Julius Malema, one of the worst politicians in South Africa in the in the world, um has had a little bit of a situation, and uh for those of you who aren't familiar, let's go through his greatest hit, shall we?
	Um here's a a little video of him.
	Um sorry about it being grainy, some of them are unfortunately.
	More than wheeling get off the mouse.
	Oh, it's not that easy to volume up, see.
	Now when Samson's moving the mouse.
	All right, sorry, Samson.
	It's just the technology.
	I I I I admit.
	Okay, let's let's hear that again and actually be able to listen to it.
	Oh now I've got to refresh the page.
	See now now who's the boomer?
	See, I actually started.
	I'm never even here.
	Right, if it's reset the volume again, I'm gonna go.
	How quickly Josh has forgotten how to do it.
	More than wheeling, but not of white people.
	I'm not going to leave the hands off white so put him in.
	But not of white people.
	I'm not hey, chill out.
	I'm not I'm not gonna go that far.
	That's that's incredible.
	And he's saying this with lots of microphones around him, not afraid of it.
	And then here's another one.
	Now the way sentence is structured.
	You say we are not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now.
	That means at some future date, we may call for the slaughter of white people.
	Is that correct?
	Let's deal with that that future date.
	I don't know what's going to happen.
	So you're saying you are not ruling out that in the future you may very well call for the slaughter of white people.
	It may not be me.
	That's not really the point.
	Could it be?
	Oh my god.
	It could be me, yes, but it may not be me.
	Yeah, so it could be you.
	You could.
	So his main objections were let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
	Yeah.
	And second one, it might not be me that does it.
	Neither of those are really the point.
	But we're building towards it, folks, trust me.
	Yeah.
	And then uh if he were a small figure, you know, maybe this would be slightly less concerning.
	But the problem is uh this.
	He has very large rallies and he has a decent amount of support.
	They're of course singing their weird song.
	This is the uh extent of their political commentary that they dan jump up and down and say kill people.
	Kill the boar normally isn't it?
	Which um is not a call to violence.
	I've been assured by mainstream media.
	Yeah, which is absurd because uh we know these these murders are going on.
	It's pretty widespread.
	They're also incredibly horrific, and there are people just explicitly calling for it.
	It can't be a rallying cry, can it, if it's actually happening.
	Do you know who I blame?
	The spice girls.
	And David Beckham, because they all hung out with Nelson Mandela and legitimized him.
	Absolutely.
	But he was just he was just this is just the quiet part out loud of of that kind of thinking.
	You are right.
	The the entire West just mainstreamed him, didn't they?
	Oh, Nelson Mandela.
	Well, no, you're you're quite and you're right to call them out singularly.
	Not enough people in politics are calling out the Spice Girls.
	Um but no, Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and the ANC uh uh very much sympathetic to Milema, as we're going to get to eventually.
	Here's another rally.
	Um Leo there.
	It is Leo.
	He attended this.
	Tallest man in the entire stage.
	Um didn't even need a drone.
	They're a bit samey.
	I don't know why so many people turn up to these, because it's just him on the spot doing this, apparently.
	That's his only hit.
	Yeah.
	It's like just bashing out smells like Teen Spirit over a stone.
	Um it's just all 1984, innit?
	It's just two minutes of hate, but for however long it needs to go on.
	So after all of that, you'd think, okay, this guy, contentious figure in South African politics, perhaps.
	Well, here's the ANC.
	Um in May of this year.
	Um why's my laptop gone black?
	Um pun intended.
	Um here they are talking about um wanting him back in the party um after all of that.
	I film C has lost in from the Julius.
	The ANC will be better off with him inside the fault.
	We would love to have Julius Malema back in uh the ANC.
	He is still ANC down deep in his heart.
	Uh so we would like to have uh those who are in the EFF back.
	Uh in the AC because the ANC is their home.
	One day, no one listened to Winnie Mandela, horrible woman.
	Um this is your kind of equivalent to like, should Diane Abbott still be in Labour type of thing, but it's should Malema be in the air amazing, they're all debating, yeah, this is his real home.
	The killing white people guy.
	And of course it's a real home.
	The ANC have been in government since um the end of apartheid, um in since nineteen ninety-four.
	And uh although for the first time they've got less than a majority, they they are still the government.
	And I think there is some degree of um self-interest there, because if they get those EFF voters back, then they'll be back to a majority again and they lose some competition.
	But I do think that they're being genuine when they're saying that he he belongs there.
	And so what you can sort of suggest is that although the ANC are a bit more careful because they've been the government for a very long time, they don't really see any problem with what Malema is saying.
	And so I think that they're just as culpable.
	Um let's go back in time a little bit to July of twenty eighteen.
	It was the EFF, uh Malema's party, their fifth birthday celebration in East London, not the East London that we know.
	He wasn't in Stratford.
	They're not hipsters, no.
	Not easy.
	Uh uh with a weird long beard and a flashing parking.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Uh this was the one in South Africa.
	Um this is a video that has caused a very big political incident.
	Ah, good thing, that's it.
	That's all you need to see.
	Okay, message received.
	Mm-hmm.
	So I think that sounds like a real gun, doesn't it?
	Mm-hmm.
	I think that's pretty safe to say.
	And uh, of course, we know that there are firearms in South Africa, they're not that hard to come by, and so it's not inconceivable.
	Um this became a big scandal in the news.
	I found a news story uh at the time and obviously shooting in in a a a crowded stadium in public with a firearm which is reportedly not his because um there was a raid on his bodyguards, and I'm gonna read some of the details here.
	So um it's just this at the top here.
	Police raided the bluff property of Adrian uh Sinman, I think, uh EFF leader Julius Malema's bodyguard last week.
	The raid came after Sinman was caught on camera handing over what was believed to be a rifle to Malema at the EFF's fifth birthday celebration in East London last month.
	Malema allegedly fired shots into the air with the rifle and later played down the incident when he said it was a toy gun.
	A pretty good toy gun.
	It sounds pretty real to me.
	Um I think he fired fourteen to fifteen shots, um, according to the court case that uh comes after.
	Melema and his henchmen, which I find a funny turn of phrase.
	Yeah, that's it for a news article.
	Uh now face arrest if police investigations confirm that the fire brand political leader had fired the gun.
	And now comes to Afriforum.
	So Afroforum represents the Afrikaans minority in South Africa, and um I think they also might represent areas of Rhodesia or Zimbabwe, whatever you want to call it, um, as well.
	I I I can't quite remember.
	Um, but they brought the case against him because of course, being an Africana minority, I think you've got a bit pretty strong incentive to get this guy behind bars because he's saying he wants to kill you.
	Chanting kill whites and firing guns.
	I think yeah, um also he has clearly done something here on camera that appears to have broken the law, right?
	And um I would like to point out that I have um spoke to the head of public relations um in an interview both on uh our website and on YouTube if you want to have a look.
	Ernst van Zale, um he's very good, um, actually very inspirational as well.
	He's telling us not to lose hope in the West and how um even though things are further gone in South Africa, you know, that they're still keeping on living a normal life.
	And it's it's it's a a great interest.
	Very heroic.
	Yeah.
	So um finally, after seven years, the court was finally um willing to deliver a judgment on his firearms case.
	There he is, looking very sweaty and concerned.
	Blimey, that's an unflattering picture.
	So what he's so am I understanding right that what he's in court for is not the countless calls for murder and slaughter, but for like a technical legal loophole to do with firing a gun on stage.
	Yes.
	Although there has been some other stuff as well.
	Right.
	Which we'll get on to later.
	So while he was in the court, um I would like to draw out um how he was not taking it very seriously, and he was arrogant and annoying, and you know, pride cometh before the fool.
	And uh why don't you just fire towards the STM?
	Oh, cheers Samson.
	You're the wizard.
	Why don't you just fire towards the inner action is the STM?
	It's none of your business.
	My business where fire from it's my event.
	I can even fire under the stage.
	I decide how I'm going to perform it.
	It's none of your business.
	You have no business with how you have conduct his business.
	As long as it's lawful and it doesn't violate any law.
	Well, where'd you cut where do you come?
	Mr. Maremma, the only logical explanation as to why you do that is because you knew that those firearms were indeed the real firearms that you've used there.
	An incompetent incoherent inferior prosecution.
	It's what you are trying to prove.
	An abusal Gotta respect the Trump like just only like, yeah, I can shoot a gun at my event, it's my event.
	Don't respect him for it.
	It's the first moment I was didn't like didn't like the killing white people thing.
	But I did like the response there, you know, it's a mixed bag.
	But obviously he's in court for this, and it's like he's acting as if like, why are you judging me?
	Um when it's a court that's what they do.
	That's how it works.
	It's like a lack of comprehension.
	Almost like he feels above the law because he's been threatening to kill people for years and getting away with it.
	That's almost the case, yeah, one could say.
	And um if I could okay, lovely, it's already right right in the right place.
	Samson, do your magic.
	Malema evaded many questions.
	They're warranted a reply.
	It became evident that the replies were entertaining, but however, the pertinent questions asked remained unanswered.
	You further relied on clip three, and he had then counted fifteen shots fired, and thereafter stated he cannot count, he had graduated in woodwork.
	Further as to our goddess Imagine saying that as the leader of a political party that he can't count to fifteen because he graduated in woodwork.
	I thought it was bad that Starmer I found out got B B C in his A levels from a good school as well.
	Oh an A level.
	And Shibana.
	And Shabana Mahmood didn't even pass the eleven plus.
	So I'm like, why are our leaders much thicker than me who got A's and the third highest grade in the country on my history syllabus?
	Doesn't matter, it's not about me.
	The point is Imagine this do you know what the other thing that struck me here?
	I've been to South Africa.
	Have any of you been?
	I haven't.
	Really, I was doing an advert there of all things.
	I was in an advert.
	Anyway, just remember the the level of like bureaucracy, the crapness.
	You know how like our country's now is so crap, you can't get a train to work, etcetera.
	But then you haven't seen anything until you've been to South Africa.
	You'll ask something and there was a woman girl on the desk, and I just realized she wasn't doing anything.
	Like you you know, you need help, you're at a hotel, can you blah blah you're trying to check out?
	After a while, I was like, no, like she's not do so just watching this, I had a terrible flashback.
	Imagine the bureaucracy of the court system in South Africa.
	Like imagine how bad it must be.
	Just the incompetence level.
	Our court system is bad enough.
	Sorry, that's a separate point probably.
	It it's fair enough.
	I mean this lady seemed to be pretty good though.
	Um although um there were moments where she was just like freezing and not saying anything, and there were there were people saying that Melema had bewitched her.
	No, I it's just South Africa, it's just how they were that's the pace that they move, I'm telling you, having been there once.
	Slower pace of life sounds good to me, to be honest.
	Yeah, and riddles with decline.
	This is based on one experience, in sweeping judgments from one experience life experience.
	So another thing that was interesting about his trial was um people thought maybe he was drinking alcohol in the court, which uh is not good.
	He was that looks like a water bottle to me, and that's some sort of brown liquid there.
	Orange to me.
	It's been a point of much speculation.
	Right.
	And uh people were saying maybe it was vodka um that he was drinking, although obviously vodka is not that colour.
	Maybe it had a mixer in.
	But there's been much speculation.
	Um I've seen people suggesting it was Mavusan Kuty, um I don't know how to obviously I don't know how to pronounce that.
	Well done.
	You haven't been like me.
	Um I I mean I I can decipher Afrikaans a little bit because I speak a bit of Dutch, so I can do that side of things.
	It's any African language I'm lost.
	No, I'm coming round to this guy.
	He's living his best life, drinking vodka, firing off guns, doesn't care what the law says, won't be won't be taught down to by judges.
	He's kinda you know, y I'm coming round to him.
	So the killing white people thing, as I've said, but so this thing is uh herbal tonic to reduce impotence, uh they were they were suggesting.
	Um but um people are also suggesting it was urine or petrol or kombucha.
	Um just throwing any old guesses out now.
	There are also people suggesting, I think as a joke, that um he was drinking some sort of potion given to him by uh a Nigerian shaman.
	Much more plausible.
	Yeah, I immediately believed much more plausible.
	Now we're getting to the bridge then.
	It wouldn't be African politics without a bit of witchcraft involved.
	Um it always comes in somehow.
	I don't know how, but it always does.
	But uh anyway, um here is uh the final verdict.
	You may stand up accused one and two.
	Accused one in respect of counts one second guy's the bodyguard.
	You are found guilty as charged.
	Accused two, Mr. Sneyman, in respect of counts four and six, you are found not guilty and discharged.
	Okay, so white bodyguard.
	The white bodyguard thing is freaking me out.
	I'm trying to dislike figure out is that was that better or worse?
	Is that like in case in case people don't like the killing white people thing, then there's revenge against that, but he's got a white guy stood in the way, isn't it?
	Some of our best bodyguards are white people.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He stands in the way, they're like, We don't want to shoot the white guy.
	Is that the logic?
	I don't I don't know.
	Oh.
	It's very sinister.
	I suppose it's a lot of people.
	The guy that wants to think people killed.
	I I suppose, you know, you want the best bodyguards and you know, a Western one might be uh better.
	I don't know.
	But um so he was found guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm and ammo, discharging a firearm in a public place which alone carries a minimum sentence of fifteen years in prison, and reckless endangerment of people or property.
	So it seems like he's going away for a long time.
	And uh it's also worth mentioning as well.
	Um actually I got a little picture of him looking very sad afterwards.
	It's a good picture.
	That is a picture of someone's TV, but it's the all I could find.
	That's when the potion kicks in, and you're like, oh, it's having too much.
	Um voodoo potion.
	So one thing that's worth mentioning is because he was found guilty and his bodyguard wasn't, it might further radicalize his followers.
	Um, you know, there was a white judge and his white bodyguard um was basically got off, scot-free, whereas he didn't, and he's gonna have a heavy prison sentence.
	How much further radicalized they can be, don't you?
	When you want to sort of kill everyone, I always feel like that's the outer limit.
	When you're turning up to rallies expressly to just cheer for death.
	Yeah, while shooting off guns, like what's the next part?
	I don't know.
	They they want death but at a more accelerated rate.
	Yes, I guess.
	Um, as you alluded to in uh one of your earlier um links, you know, he was just talking about oh well it might not happen, might not be me personally, but you can see the intent there that that is what they're working towards.
	Absolutely.
	And it's also worth mentioning this comes only uh a couple of months after this, where he was found guilty of hate speech, and this was again uh some great work from um Afriforum, I think.
	Um and if I scroll down a little bit, it says uh after an incident where a white man allegedly assaulted an EFF member, Malema said, No white man is going to beat me up, you must never be scared to kill.
	A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing.
	And of course, he's like a revolutionary communist.
	Is like the least of his I mean hate speech, everything he says is hate speech.
	Yes.
	I'm gonna kill a lot of people for their immutable characteristics.
	It seems like a man with a lot of hate in his heart.
	Yes.
	I think that's fair to say.
	But the court said that these remarks demonstrated an intent to incite harm.
	I mean have they noticed his party platforms.
	Have they looked at any of his videos?
	I know.
	And after the court judgment, he seemingly learnt nothing from any of this, because he was up to his usual tricks outside of the court.
	I think people would be bored of this gimmick by now.
	Well, I mean, to be fair, Josh.
	They didn't condemn him for this.
	That is true.
	But they should be.
	Well, they should.
	But it it's wild to have him taken down for that when this is really the crime.
	Exactly.
	And he has um appealed the guilty ruling and is going to try and pursue this in court, but I'd be surprised because it's pretty cut and dry, isn't it?
	And uh I found this funny as well.
	Um there's a guy here talking about it, um, and let's see what he has to say.
	South Africans like the whole international Julas Malema have been found.
	I like the uh little tub of Vasily with the picture that's the millions of South Africans we are led, also viably tabili.
	This little Kongro to Jules Malima, he thinks that he's above the law.
	No.
	No.
	He said um Simple.
	Some of it was difficult to understand, but he basically said millions of South Africans agree that he should be in prison.
	Mm-hmm.
	So it it is so, wouldn't you?
	So it does seem that um the black majority, there are at least some people that are um agreeing with his imprisonment, which is nice to see.
	Um blokes, it's like the normal ordinary blokes like here, they don't agree with that stuff.
	It's good to see.
	So uh Afriforum released a uh a meme, and obviously it's an Afrikaans, but uh I was able to dis decipher the caption, and it is uh good news, Afroforum said they would be glad to sponsor your New orange suit.
	And of course, there's an additional layer to this, of course, because of course Afrikaners originally Dutch settlers, orange.
	So it's like an additional layer of humiliation, or at least that's how I interpreted it as.
	But they were, of course, the ones that brought this, and it's a great victory for them.
	Well done.
	And I very much encourage people to support them.
	They're doing some really great work.
	And it's also worth mentioning that there are important implications as well, because, of course, the United States is looking to put sanctions on South Africa for particularly the land expropriation bill, which allows the government to take land from largely Afrikaners, who are the majority landowners, and just give it to black Africans with no compensation for the original landowner.
	So it could destroy a farm and a holding that has been in multiple generations that has required a massive amount of labour to make fruitful, obviously disrupting their own food supply in the process, to just satisfy envy, really.
	Right.
	That's grievance.
	Exactly.
	And um what they're trying to do is they're trying to lobby the US to put sanctions specifically on the members of the ANC rather than South Africa more generally.
	Because of course, if they put it on South Africa more generally, then the Africaners will suffer those sanctions as well.
	And of course, with the Africaners actually having more infrastructure than the rest of South Africa, because a lot of them ha live in sort of parallel societies now, um, with their own Western equivalent societies.
	Like parts of the Western Cape look absolutely gorgeous, and I've seen even places in the middle of the bush.
	They're like little um oasises of civilization and so obviously they need goods from the outside and uh importing these sorts of things because a lot of the areas aren't exactly the most industrious.
	No.
	And um yeah, my my parting message is this that if you're in South Africa, um, best of luck to you, and it's great to see uh something that's actually good news from your part of the world, and uh stay safe.
	We do have a few comments.
	Right.
	Uh we probably shouldn't read this, but I'm going to do it anyway.
	Um Trump should drone strike Julius Malema.
	Well, it was for twenty dollars.
	It was for twenty dollars.
	You get you get what you pay for at Lotus.
	Um also he's a horrible man, um and you know, if he were in England or what have you, he'd probably be declared some sort of terrorist.
	Um we got some YouTube ones as well.
	Um have we read all these already?
	Um it looks like it.
	I think we have actually.
	Okay, we got some oh.
	Uh da da da da.
	Have we read all those, Samson?
	I don't want to miss anyone up.
	Alright.
	Uh well let's we'll go to the video, Samson.
	I'll have a little nosy at the comments to see if um sorry.
	Sorry.
	I'm sabotaging you.
	I'm so sorry, Samson.
	I'm so sorry, Samson.
	That's what we need, some nice kittens.
	Nice little pallet cleanser.
	This is the the good thing about video comments is that you can watch the most egregious things and then it'll just be like oh nice kittens are some uh it's over.
	Hello, lotus eaters.
	I hope you like my new face.
	One of the reasons the fascists in 20th century Europe managed to rise to power was because they were the only ones trying to stop the violent communist revolutionaries.
	History might not repeat, but it sure does rhyme.
	The left heads are too far up their bums to pay attention, and it is to their peril.
	I think I've had some of that South African voodoo juice.
	I've seen this one before we've not seen it.
	No, I was I don't know, it's just very strange to look at.
	I think that when Law and Order breaks down uh over in the Americas, he is gonna have a robot army ready to go, though, isn't he?
	So he's like the most prepared patriot.
	Yeah, he's like iRobot when they have not a good film either.
	It's just uh an army of robots ready to go.
	Halo Ceters, I'm at Bildwas Abbey in Shropshire.
	Just look how beautiful it is.
	Never been there before, looks like it was a sistertian monastery built in the twelfth century.
	Unless it all the way up to the sixteenth, when Henry the Eighth decided to take the roof off the building.
	It's surprisingly well intact.
	There's this beautiful chapter house as well.
	Really nice vaulted ceiling.
	Yeah.
	Very much enjoyed that.
	The the abbeys in the monasteries are such a beautiful part of the uh the English character.
	It's just honestly.
	Well what you were saying in the your segment, Nick, about just uh the Catholicism and everything.
	Uh I wasn't a fan of this part of English history, to be honest with you.
	It was uh pretty bad what Henry did to the monasteries.
	I I agree.
	Why did you just take the roof off?
	What's the what's the reason for that?
	I don't know.
	Well they they they pillage them for all sorts of riches and resources, wouldn't they?
	I mean, one of the uh funny because when I did uh an epochs with Bo, uh talking about Thomas Cromwell, right, in his um time as uh Henry the Eighth's um you know top guy.
	He um one of the things little stories was I can't remember which abbey it was, but it was some like rural abbey up in the north, and um the like the Inquisitors came and like checked the abbey to see if everyone was being moral and good and everything, and then they went away, you know, to decide on their verdict, and all the locals thought, oh my gosh, like they're gonna take our abbey away from us.
	And so they started to like prep the defences, grab the pitchforks, you know, what what weapons they could, and what ended up happening was that when they returned with the verdict, they op they attacked them, and they were coming back to say, Oh, you can you can carry on.
	And then after that, they're like, right, well, you're definitely getting shut down now.
	Oh dear.
	Terrible.
	As an addition to my video about the fifty pence coin bearing the 1755 dictionary definition of a fifty pence, I've come across another fifty pence coin last week from 2007.
	This one is in commemoration of the century of the scout movement, which was founded in 1907.
	The reason I appreciate this one is because many of you almost certainly know of the scouts and have probably participated during your youth.
	It's a proud aspect of British culture which has spread far and wide beyond the United Kingdom, and it's a rare example of a noble and universal endeavour.
	I urge you to look up the founder, Lord Baton Powell, as he has an interesting story to tell.
	As a member of the Scouts.
	It's very good.
	I think it is something that all boys should be involved in.
	So women now.
	Is it really?
	They had their own equivalent, didn't they?
	Yeah, they had the girl guides, yeah, the brownies and the I can't remember that that's isn't it?
	Oh, I can't remember.
	I I only do it, I did the air cadence, that's what I was in.
	My sister did that, yeah.
	Big shoe.
	Yeah.
	Didn't last long in there.
	I didn't like being told what to do by kids slightly older than me.
	Look at that.
	UK Scouts became fully mixed gender in 1991, did they?
	But 2007 making it compulsory for all groups to accept girls in all sections.
	That is true.
	There were some girls in my class, but they're in a small minority, and also, you know, uh I didn't really mind by that point.
	Wasn't it Cubs and Brownies?
	Uh Cubs was the boys one.
	And Brownies was a girl.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, Cubs were too long.
	Brownies was girls and scouts was uh older than that, but I don't know.
	Should shouldn't be any women anyway, that's my point with everything.
	Or just in general or just in the scouts.
	Most things, yeah.
	So very tired.
	Sorry, I'm a bit tired today.
	Yeah, I get up early to come here.
	Very nice ground clock here.
	Rubble
	Slow down.
	It's like what you would see in a film of someone who's having a mental break.
	Uh agrees on that.
	Thanks for the the strange mechanical horror, I guess.
	Beautiful clock though.
	Okay, we got some comments, I believe.
	Yeah, okay.
	Uh I'll just read some from mine.
	We've got Omar Wad says, uh the Islamic takeover of the home office is one thing, but you also have to wonder who in power and where would uh minimize the SAS in response.
	Didn't see that after Rudy Kabbana killed three children and stabbed many others.
	No, I I totally agree, Omar, as you're saying, just the the level to which the state just organized.
	And the rapid response was very, very telling.
	Uh James Hayes says, Home office immigration accessor.
	So you are from Syria and your name is Jihad.
	Welcome to Britain.
	Does seem to be the case, doesn't it?
	This is really a thing as well, isn't it?
	It's like, you know, when the Labour Party is saying, like, if you dare suggest of deporting anyone and them not being British.
	It's like right, but that's part of the reason that they're so crap at containment.
	Is because they're not even willing to acknowledge the fact that a single person a single one of the the like the total wrongans just in Britain shouldn't be here, no matter how wretched or evil they might be.
	Like not one wretched the better one might even imagine that that is the policy at the minute with the way things are.
	They'll be granting asylum to Julius Malama before we know it.
	He's persecuted.
	Yeah.
	Come and talk about how much you want to murder white people in Britain.
	You'll fit right in.
	Uh Andrew Narrag says if I had a nickel for every time Manchester had an Islamic terror attack, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice in a decade.
	Yeah, and to be honest with you, Andrew, there's no real reason.
	I see what why not to think it should just happen again either, right?
	Yeah, well.
	Because nothing has been done.
	It's it's even worse than that.
	It's that things are being done to make it more likely.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, and it's been compounded a lot since after the Manchester Arena bombing as well.
	Things have only gotten worse.
	Well, they're they're more emboldened, that there's more ethnic division, there are simply more Muslims.
	The home office has its hands tied more, and there's no political will to do anything about it anyway.
	As well as the fact that if you point out that terror attacks are mostly a Muslim phenomenon, people call you Islamophobic, even though since 2005 it has been like 98% of all terror attacks with fatalities have been Islamic.
	So don't you dare believe your lying eyes.
	Uh we've got AZ Desert Rat who says, Kudos to this gentleman for blaming the person doing the stabbing instead of blaming the knife.
	I know, yeah.
	Yeah.
	All of the things.
	All of a sudden it's not about guns or knives.
	We get back to the actual source of it, which is no the intent to kill.
	And if someone intends to kill, they will find whatever means they can to do it.
	It's really that simple.
	Uh and Lancelot says, uh, we have uh concrete bollards in Melbourne now after an Islamic car attack on in Burke Street.
	My fiance worked in the mental health ward that house them.
	Uh he likes to break nurses' hands while they give him medication, because what are they gonna do?
	Sentence me more.
	Um I have an idea of how to cure him, and it's a specific kind of injection that means he can never re-offend again.
	And uh do you want to me to read some from I can read it, but I mean is yeah, in in my Pope section, Omar says modern Catholicism feels like Christianity for the modern audience, watering down the law of a franchise speaks to a lack of faith in the IP.
	It's a good way for it.
	Very immediate is a very, very good, yeah.
	Savvy reditor.
	Guy from Hungary, a Roman Catholic here.
	During the conclave, I couldn't tip who would be the next Pope, but I wish for a Leo, the Leo name being associated with the Crusades, Leo Ten being a great example.
	Uh Leo 14 is not a lion, just a pussy cat, I'm disappointed.
	Indeed.
	Um there was a good one here that confirming what I said from Baron von Warhook.
	Genesis 9-6.
	Whoever sheds the blood of man by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image, God to know it, as I said.
	If God himself is for the death penalty, then so should the Pope.
	I'm tired of our leaders bending over backwards to protect murderers and rapists.
	Fair.
	Fair.
	There was one other one I was gonna read.
	Um bleached demon, as a Catholic, I'm frustrated by the continued watering down of the teachings, constantly lurching into modernist garbage, Francis changed the death party teachings in 2018, and it's caused confusion ever since.
	It feels at times as a desire to divide Catholics from within.
	So um I like this comment.
	Lord Inquisitor Hector says, Your prosecutor just arrived, Mr. Melema, courtroom door opens.
	Simon Quagger enters.
	Why are you gay?
	You are gay.
	If only um I want that crossover to happen.
	Um AZ Desert Rat saying one can't count to fifteen because they're a wood worker is complete idiocy.
	You have to be a master of geometry to be a successful woodworker.
	Um I don't know whether he's actually created anything of any value.
	Maybe a few gallows in his time, I imagine.
	Um Carl's evil twin Vosch says Melema has the same attitude and facial expressions as Sasha Johnson.
	Maybe genetics does have something to play in the way um we as groups act.
	Well, of course it does.
	He's right though, the exact same energy from both of those people.
	Um Zesty King, Nick, um, what were you advertising in South Africa?
	It was actually a TV advert for Go Compare that I was acting in because of all only I only had to be myself.
	You met so easy.
	No, no, they got rid of him, to put us in, and then after testing us, they put him back.
	Uh that was in my previous life as a celebrity before, of course, I was radicalized.
	And became a by my trip to South Africa by how slow they did stuff.
	But thank you, Zesti King.
	Well, that's all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.
	You can join us in half an hour for Lad's Hour, where we're going to be talking about all of the great British comedies.

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