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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Road Seaters episode 1227 for Monday the 11th of August 2025.
	I'm your host Luca, book ended today by The Beards, Bo.
	Brightful.
	Just complimenting one another's beard game before we came on.
	I felt very insecure, I have to say.
	But nonetheless, we're all going to be talking today about the hotel protests seem to just grow bigger and bigger every single week.
	And it's very, very encouraging.
	We're then going to talk about Labour's most recent scrap of red meat that's definitely going to calm everything right down.
	And then we're going to go through the NGOs who are steering UK's immigration policy.
	We're going to name them, aren't we?
	We are going to name them.
	Name them and infinitely shame them.
	All right.
	So with that all said, let's begin the first segment.
	So as you all know, starting several weeks ago now, things really heated up when that horrendous story came out about the alleged sexual assaults that were happening in Epping, of course.
	And ever since then, the people of Epping came out very, very well as a community, totally organically, grassroots.
	And just through their exemplary display, you know, have, I think, really inspired a lot of people around the country because, of course, there's really no place in the country now that isn't touched by the problem of these illegal hotels.
	They're everywhere.
	I mean, you know, obviously there's the large, as you always say, the larger problem of legal mass immigration, but...
	I should tell you about something far better that you could be reading, which is of course Islander magazine, the fourth issue that we've got out now, and Rory has done a wonderful job with all of the graphics inside wonderful wonderful displays and some terrific essays to go with them so if you're interested in reading them you can go to the website it's 14.99 absolute bargain for the quality that you're getting if i do say so myself and
	you can also go and support us by buying things from the merch store as well as t-shirts mugs all sorts of great things on the website yeah do get under it will sell out Yes, it will sell out.
	Time isn't.
	Once it's gone, it's gone.
	And when it goes, if you haven't got it, you'll live with the shame forever.
	So get it now.
	You'll have to go on eBay and pay like $200 a pop.
	That's so cool though, isn't it?
	Like selling out completely and then having to go on eBay to like, I don't know, scalping.
	Scalping Lotus Eater stuff.
	Like.
	So guess it now.
	Anyway, let's talk about a far more disreputable outfit compared to ours, of course, which is The Guardian.
	And The Guardian are a little bit worried because you could see in Anxious of what was going to happen this weekend, police in England brace for disorder as far right that promotes the anti-migrant protests.
	Same old, same old.
	They never change, do they?
	They go on to say that police are brace for potential disorder in towns across England this weekend amid the far right's promotion of a range of protests against asylum seekers with anti-racist, anti-well, rape, pro-rape activists is really what they are, planning counter-protests.
	Restrictions will be in place on Friday at locations including Norwich while officers will police at least 12 other towns and cities that evening.
	There is particular concerns around a planned protest on Saturday at council offices in Nuneaton where Warwickshire police have dismissed claims by a reform UK council leader that the force held back information over the alleged rape of a 12 year old girl.
	Right, so again, stories like this all over the country.
	The chair of the National Police Chiefs Council Operations Coordination Committee, Chief Constable BJ Harrington, said, We urge communities to be to carefully consider the information they read, share, and trust from online sources.
	It is essential to remain aware of the potential motivation behind such content.
	I would consider it to be really, really angry about all the rape actually Mr. Harrington I think that's where most of the concern comes from it's interesting that we do live in a world now don't we where wherever it should have always been the case but we it didn't used to be particularly but yeah you have to look at the source I mean being a history nerd I've been sort of trained to do that right a level undergrad days anyway look at who's saying the thing and
	who they are and then look at the thing or in tandem at least so yeah always do that yeah right so yeah always sure fine but even if uh saying for the mainstream media or if it's the guardian.
	Yeah.
	Don't do that on it.
	Oh yeah, never do that.
	Never do that.
	They're never wrong.
	If you're not getting your information direct from Mariana Spring, then you've got the wrong information.
	Please tune in to BBC Verify every single day for your latest updates.
	The ultimate arbiter of truth, Mariana Spring.
	Who lied in her first story.
	Yeah.
	And everyone after that, I'm sure as well.
	But as we've pointed out, as Josh compiles here, just taking a story from consecutive days, every single day for the past week, and there is a story of sexual assault or far worse behind each and every one of them, because we are swamped now with all of these illegal hotels.
	And frankly, in many, many cases, they are positioned in places that put children at risk.
	Such as the one in Epping, of course, with the school just being around the corner.
	And so the protests are growing.
	And you can see this graphic here, where they talk about abolishing the asylum system.
	And I'm particularly pleased with this.
	No masks, no alcohol, pure patriotism, right?
	Just be responsible.
	We're winning.
	Just keep going.
	That's a very good slogan, actually.
	That's right on the money.
	No masks, no alcohol, pure patriotism.
	Yeah.
	Regional.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, and the anti-racist protesters took the no masks part personally, because that seems to be the only way that they ever turn up, just in their masks.
	but yeah and as you can see here on the right as well we have a number of different protests that are happening uh over the weekend now i checked out the wolverhampton one and that didn't actually seem to have really materialized into anything however for the other parts there There is a lot going on here.
	Of course, the Epping protest continues.
	And they, Epping Council wrote a letter to Evet Cooper saying, we support the Home Office's wider objective of reducing reliance on the hotels and are keen to work with you.
	However, we urge you to accelerate this process and to make the Bohotel, Bell Hotel in Epping a priority for urgent closure.
	It's vital that this location is reconsidered, considering the operational realities on the ground.
	We urge that the Bell Hotel be made a priority for urgent decommissioning.
	The public trust, our community's cohesion, and the operational integrity of Essex Police depend on it.
	It's quite an admission.
	It is.
	It is quite an admission.
	The integrity of them.
	Oh, so they're worried about that.
	They could just fall apart like tissue paper.
	Like, oh, we've got nothing.
	Integrity.
	Yeah.
	The thing is, to add quickly, there is obviously a big concern with the people pro- protesting as well that once a hotel like this gets decommissioned like you mentioned Where are the where are the illegals going to go?
	And are they just disappeared?
	They don't just go, they'll just be bused to another location and I think that a lot of the protesters from what I've seen in some clips have been saying well this is not what we want as well we don't just want it's not just about this hotel it's about the wider broader scope so I think that's important as well to to mention well exactly in a way it's even more I don't know like pernicious or something to take a big group of like thirty or
	100 or 200 of these illegal boat invaders and they're all in one place like epping or something and then there's a public outrage so so yeah they just smear it across loads and loads of smaller villages somewhere else that's no good no that's that's almost worse and you see this with the um that groundbreaking deal that starman made with macron it's clear that as far as the actual government are
	concerned.
	their problem isn't with the people coming here it's just with the fact that it's it's the illegality of the thing if they all came by safe and legal routes yeah then we would happily no we want them gone We don't want them here.
	That's what it comes down to.
	Don't trust them and they don't belong here.
	Where we quite often here at Lotus Eaters are at pains to say, you know, we're perfectly aware that it's not just the illegals, it's not just the boat people, it's legal immigration, because as you say, if a lot of these people had their way, people like Corbyn or whoever, or Sakir, they would just have safe and legal routes.
	But we would still have the exact same issue.
	You're still importing sex criminals into our country.
	Yeah, that's not good enough.
	It's still not good enough.
	No, not at all.
	Not at all.
	And so, as you can see here, we've got protests still carrying on in Epping.
	All very wholesome.
	All very wholesome.
	But it's spreading as well.
	So now we've got protests happening in Norwich, right, as well.
	And you see there are only 15 stand-up-to-racism clowns.
	But that's the point.
	They are always there, right?
	Even if it's just 15 of them.
	Every town, there's some of them there, same placards.
	It's like, well, they all came to different towns, but they haven't brought their own homemade placards.
	Now they've all got the uniform placards from...
	the ngos the charities funding them which i'm sure we'll come into later but um yeah it's really, really suspicious.
	But if you just look at the, sorry, supposed to be about there, the turnout is really impressive.
	Where, if the camera will pan the way, there we go.
	And these will all just be, I would have thought, largely just genuine local people.
	Yes.
	Local people.
	Local people from Norwich.
	Yes.
	North Norfolk, say.
	Right, really, really impressive.
	And bear in mind as well that Norwich, as things stand currently, and don't get wrong, it's not been in entirely shielded, but it's still a very British part of the country.
	It's not quite Cornwall and Devon or Cumbria, but it's still pretty British.
	And so they'll feel it really acutely.
	East Anglia is one of the heartlands.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, I'm just saying it's not had those huge waves of mass immigration yet, like the North, like London.
	It's still...
	And I'm going to play this with volume, because it's a remarkable exchange.
	Hello, matey, are you all right?
	Yeah, what's up?
	Absolutely nothing, so don't panic.
	It's just a very quick one.
	I appreciate you at work, but Warwickshire have asked me to come around and just, basically, it's a lot of bugs, mate, but it's about this protest tomorrow in Warwickshire.
	Yeah.
	And just saying, obviously, that they're aware that you might be wanting to attend that planned protest, and obviously that's absolutely fine.
	You've got freedom of speech, and that's no issues at all.
	And all they've asked me to do, mate, it sounds dumb, so I apologise, and it's really woeful.
	It's not something I agree with, but I've been asked to do it.
	It's just to drop a leaflet about being involved in a protest.
	It sounds bad, but it is what it is.
	Do me a favor.
	Take it back to them.
	Take it back on it to them.
	Say we will no longer be silent and to fuck himself.
	From me, with love.
	With love.
	Yeah.
	The silent majority of Britain will no longer stay silent.
	Tell them that.
	Thank you very much.
	Have a good day.
	Simple answer.
	Nice.
	Do you know?
	Nice.
	Do you know?
	Like, I heard about this exchange and I didn't watch the full video, but I didn't realise that the guy laughed and was like, I'm sorry to have to do this.
	Like, because clearly it's orders from the UPS.
	Yes.
	And you could tell this guy, this, this police officer here is just totally embarrassed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	by the entire situation.
	I've not seen that clip until just then.
	But that's great.
	Yeah.
	He's that cop is obviously completely embarrassed.
	And yeah, took what the guy said last map.
	great it's great because in history often the revolutions only really work when the cossacks the police the soldiers when they're on board when they're on side with the protesters that's when regimes tumble and collapse um so it's very yeah i mean this guy that is I love that.
	I love that.
	Yeah, phenomenal to witness.
	mean you fair play to the policeman for treating it like the farce it is yeah he's done this he's obeyed his orders but he's also shown that he's just obviously not aligned with i hope No, I hope not.
	I hope not too.
	I was going to say, has there ever been anything like that where the police have actually been given orders to go around someone's house and to drop off a leaflet to say, Just so you know, I know you're going to a protest tomorrow to exercise your freedom of speech and expression.
	Which you totally have the right to do.
	You have the right to do, but we just want to make you aware, like, don't act a certain way, don't do this, don't do that.
	I've never heard of a case like that.
	It's a bit odd, like the intimidation factor.
	Yeah.
	It's like, don't worry, we're watching.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like, we're watching you big brother's watching you uh we're aware you might like to attend are you what so you're watching me then okay i'll just uh actually i'll just read this rumble rant now because it's entirely relevant from uh bone apple tea party who says that copper is now under investigation oh really right if they fire him let's get him on here yeah yeah great but um but again it's as exactly as you say lewis just the absurdity of making someone go and do that.
	So, yeah, a fantastic turnout here in Noneaton.
	It's just, again, it's, but it's.
	but it's not just like how many cities and towns it's happening now it's the size of the crowds it's drawing in yeah it's genuinely organic genuine genuine organic and it's continuous yeah it's it's relentless it's every single weekend now we're just really seeing something getting sparked up here There's no mass printable signs.
	it's all hand drawn you know flags of our own country and the union being flown like genuine i It's just, it's actually just so nice to see.
	It is great.
	That's peaceful.
	And the argument that if you say something that's too based, as a actual political party, let's say, like reform or something, there was an argument that Nigel and Tyson whoever, they can't say things that are too based because that's electoral poison.
	And I've been saying for a long time, we get people on Twitter.
	Oh, right, right.
	Reform loyalists.
	Not the Bodevich names, I assure you.
	And I've argued for a long time, since the beginning, that no, I don't believe that.
	I think there's millions and millions of people screaming out, crying out for a super based voice at the ballot box and I'm sure that's true I'm sure that's true if Nigel was as based as Rupert or even more he wouldn't be at 35% he'd be at 55% 65% it's true It is true well this is entirely of course what absolutely collapsed the Tories wasn't it the fact that they said they would do certain things and then either reneged on them or
	doubled down in the total opposite direction and exacerbated all of the problems so the mandate to address these issues is even greater than what it was 10 years ago now even greater and a greater mandate means that yeah you can be more hardlining your in your rhetoric.
	Definitely.
	Because the times are more.
	Even Labour are becoming hardline in some of their rhetoric.
	Obviously, it's just talk.
	I don't see any fulfillment of it.
	But even they are trying to position themselves to court.
	It's not going to work.
	Caught reform voters or people of the right.
	And it's like, yeah, that's not going to work.
	But well done for destroying yourself.
	Yeah.
	And it speaks of the Overton window.
	Oh, it does.
	has moved.
	Or is in transit.
	It is in transit.
	I like that.
	In transit.
	Very good.
	It's always on the move these days, it seems.
	Aldershot, great escape theme.
	Love it.
	you you Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Home of the British Army isn't it, Aldershot?
	Is it really?
	Yeah, yeah, you might be right though, yeah, yeah.
	Take your word.
	Alan Miller, friend of the show, was on recently.
	He was in Bournemouth.
	covering what was happening down there.
	Bournemouth strikes again.
	So we're here and there's another hotel just down there and the third one is a bit further down.
	I've seen you back three quarters in this event.
	Obviously, some people are quite annoyed, so they're making their voices heard.
	Yeah, the reason we're getting annoyed is because...
	Anyway, in case...
	Just jumps in there.
	Well, people are crying out to be heard.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Crying out for it.
	They've been kept in that pressure cooker for years.
	Yes, yeah.
	Years and years.
	And demonized at the same time.
	Alan does good work as well.
	He does.
	He does.
	Definitely go follow him.
	But if you think that towards the end of this segment, I'm going to come to you with some sort of response from the government.
	Right?
	Given that there have been protests in tens of towns and cities across Britain this weekend.
	No response.
	No at all.
	Total radio silence, as far as I could tell.
	She is...
	That too is very, very telling, isn't it?
	It's actually a bit sort of disquieting.
	They've got nothing.
	I mean, that's good.
	It's nice.
	But really, that's their tactic.
	They sat around a strategy.
	There's strategy meetings you can only imagine in number 10 or at checkers or wherever it is.
	And they're like, our only play here is radio silence.
	That's so weak.
	Just ignore it.
	That's a super weak position.
	time we speak we become less popular it's like well you could do the opposite thing you could clear it all up you could pack them up you could send them away.
	You could diffuse attention.
	But they don't even know how to contain the situation for their own sense of self-preservation.
	Because they don't agree with it.
	Well, oh yeah.
	Because they don't agree with it.
	And it's as simple as that.
	And they don't want to agree with it.
	And they don't want to.
	It's almost like we've all planted the flag in our position on this.
	all the protesters, everyone, you know, and others.
	And it's grand.
	I'm sorry, you had 14 years doing that and you had the chance.
	You could have done so much.
	Roll back, repeal, the Tony Blair era could have been destroyed and just rebuilt with something better, but no.
	But we know why.
	We know how they really feel.
	I mean, if you remember a few years ago, Emily Thornbury, do you remember that?
	It was like one white van man who dared have an England flag out.
	Oh, yeah.
	She was upset.
	The worst day of her life.
	And so that is how they really feel.
	feel people like Lisa Nandy or Sir Queer or whoever it is.
	They hate the fact that natives turn up with St. George's flags and stand up for themselves and are beginning to voice their displeasure with being raped and replaced.
	They can't stand it.
	They do think we're the evil baddies in this thing.
	The future belongs to them.
	and no one else.
	It doesn't belong there in Blackpool, as you can see.
	Pay no heed to the woke weirdo whose tweet it is, but protest in Blackpool as well.
	And even the Communist capital of Bristol.
	So you know it's getting heavy when things are happening in Bristol of all places, but of course, I just want to say as well, when I went to Bristol, it was a few years ago now, but Bristol seemed to me like a really genuinely beautiful city, right?
	There is a lot to love about Bristol and like so many places, just totally being run into the ground and neglected by people who don't realise what a special city they've got.
	A lot of history.
	Yeah.
	A lot of history.
	In centuries past, Bristol was absolutely one of the preeminent cities of England, after London, of course, but yeah, for centuries, we think it's just one other, even a second tier sort of city right it's not on the level of liverpool or manchester uh but no uh steeped in history and yeah a lovely place it used to be um yeah and as you say sort of the comic capital something like i don't know seattle or san francisco where it's lefty is seen for whatever reason gravitate there think it's theirs
	yes stuff it's like so we'll see about that yeah yeah yeah English chaz.
	And the supreme leader of Chaz in England is, of course, Carla Dena, who I just want to say I think is a worst MP, right?
	There are so many to choose from, Stella Creasey, Jess Phillips, but I just find her, because you know what it is about Carla?
	It's a fact that a lot of them, you think you're just above your pay grade, right?
	You'd be better off in working as a secondary teacher, right?
	No, I wouldn't even trust her in that.
	I wouldn't trust her to do anything, really.
	She's like a parody, she's like a sketch.
	Yes.
	She's like someone on our side writing something that's supposed to be ironic.
	But that's her, that's who she really is.
	the avatar of everything anti-civilisational that just happens that's what she is she's anti-civilisational everything she advocates for a living cliche yeah is that uh she says far-right protesters expect to take place outside look Carla I'll save you some time they hate the rape okay that that's what all of this is about right and you cover it up you make excuses for it you
	obfuscate and you're a bad person moving on uh as you can see here as
	as well, we remember as well when we had Jack Hadfield in the office the other week, great lad doing lots of on the ground work reporting and of course he spent a lot of time at the Britannia Hotel outside Canary Wharf seems that the police there were taking a leaf from the Epping playbook of just police protection today now that I'm allowing escorting a load of the anti-racist activists over preserving
	their what was it they said their right to freedom of assembly So, right to freedom of assembly must include a police escort.
	Because that's what happens, right?
	Whenever Tommy has a rally in London, the police go out and give them a nice escort down so they can all assemble in the capital together.
	Obvious nonsense.
	I'm here now.
	Obvious nonsense.
	And yeah, as you can see here, you've got locals, you know, good patriotic Brits singing Rule Britannia outside the Britannia Hotel.
	How fitting.
	outfitting.
	And so it just...
	It seems that there's genuine momentum, genuine inspiration in the air for just ordinary people at this point.
	They've really had enough.
	Don't get wrong., it's still not quite radical enough for my taste.
	You see a few interviews where they say, oh, we don't mind the legal immigration.
	but they hate the procedure of what is the obvious injustice of what's been done with the illegal stuff and i'm sure on the legal front you know the facts will bear themselves out in the future.
	It's really great how peaceful it's been so far.
	I mean, there was on Saturday, as of every Saturday, there was like a pro-Gaza, pro-Palestine march through London.
	had like over 500 people arrested on that one day and we've had all sorts of protests up and down the country and like we sent almost none i believe almost none sort of no unrest i haven't seen any clips certainly of like brawls breaking out and stuff so um yeah yeah if we can keep this momentum going definitely it's great stuff definitely um as you see and uh very symbolic photo here i think a gorgeous photograph in fact of just england
	flag union flag and the sunlight just breaking out beneath the tree you know from behind behind the trees very very symbolic fantastic almost almost iconic could be yeah that type of thing yeah yeah great stick it in the stick it in the National Gallery in the family album yes one for the album.
	Anyway, so good work out there, Patriots.
	Keep going.
	All right, I'll read through some of the Rumble rants.
	Chuck us an Islander so I can chill it mid-segment in a minute.
	You work on a...
	Yeah, the cop has been suspended.
	A lot of people are saying this.
	That's terrible, terrible news.
	I suspected it might have been the case after, because that clip had already been played around quite a lot over the weekend, so if anything would have happened.
	But it's sad to see, especially when he did do his job, after all.
	He did go and try to give the leaflet.
	Not his fault.
	The chap at the door didn't want it.
	Habsification says, Carla looks and sounds like she's perpetually crying.
	This is also true.
	Yeah, okay.
	Right, thank you.
	Over to you, Bo.
	All right, let's just get my document in place before I begin.
	Where are we here?
	Okay.
	One sec, dead air.
	The worst scene, dead air.
	Mumble, mumble, rhubarb, rhubarb.
	Pressed up.
	All right, so it's been in the news cycle a bit recently, or in the last news cycle, the fresh bit of red meat that Labour are throwing out to try and pretend they're doing something on the immigration question, of course.
	The one small element of it to do with our prisons overflowing with thousands and thousands of foreign criminals, some terrible criminals.
	Once again, we know that illegal immigration is not the biggest problem.
	It's legal immigration.
	So, yeah, here we can see the BBC, the Home Office and the government say, we're going to deport way more people.
	They made a new list of countries that they're going to put on it.
	India is one of them.
	So, like, the Indian Times cares about that.
	Of course they do.
	I wonder why.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because they're tribal, like all peoples in the world.
	All peoples in the world.
	You could deport those foreign Indian criminals back to India and I'm sure no one in India would even notice.
	No one would notice.
	Only a few thousand, yeah.
	Yeah, most peoples in the world and for all time have got an in-group preference.
	It's not mad to have an in-group preference, for God's sakes.
	Okay, so there's the Mirror running with it.
	There's the Guardian running with it, of course.
	Or is this the Sunday Times?
	So, yeah, just and the government themselves talking about it.
	So if I go back to the BBC one, we'll have a quick look at what's actually being said.
	So they've said, and I don't believe any of this, that's the angle., that's the take in this piece, if anyone doesn't already know where we're going with this, is that it's just nonsense.
	It's like the Rwanda thing talk and talk and talk about it talk and talk and talk about how we're going to give France XYZ give them money nothing ever happens in fact we're just flooded even more with more and more people daily literally daily like over the weekends like 400 plus people per day coming across the channel ferried across by a board of false boats and the RNLI so nothing's nothing's even slowing down there's no stopping and yet out of the home office or the government Mrs. Ed Ball saying oh we're doing stuff though we're going to do stuff look
	we've got this list of countries which we'll be able to deport foreign criminals straight back to.
	They say it's a list of 23 countries and they've added 50, well now it's 23, but they've added 50 new more countries to it.
	We're talking Angola, Botswana, Brunei, Bulgaria, Guyana, Indonesia, Kenya, Latvia, Lebanon, Malaysia, Uganda, Zambia.
	So yeah, that's sort of what they're saying.
	I wish, sorry, I was just going to say, Right.
	I wish that that was some old imperial tactic played over again.
	Oh, yeah., like the 18th and 19th century deportation.
	Yeah.
	Just shameled Australia.
	You go to Australia and you're never heard from again.
	Just a dumping ground for criminals.
	Says Yvette Cooper.
	Finally getting a finger out.
	I know Australians, and I can see why, really hate that when we say that or mention that.
	Oh, you're all descended from criminals.
	Well, not all.
	No.
	But it was a place to deport criminals for quite a long time.
	Anyway, I've got a strong gene pool.
	Good for you guys.
	Strong gene pool.
	Can't deny that.
	So yeah, they're saying things like, we'll be able to.
	deport way more people and much more quickly.
	And I mean, yes, there's a few quotes here.
	But with even this U-turn, only the Conservative Party is committed to deporting all foreign criminals.
	We don't believe you either.
	We don't believe you either.
	Not sure about that one.
	Do you know what's funny?
	I see this as a big win.
	I think I tweeted about this yesterday.
	I see this as a massive win.
	Like you said, it's the last bit of red meat to throw out.
	I actually, they understand and they know how deeply unpopular they are, the Labour Party.
	And so this is their sort of death rattle of throwing out the red meat to try and court as many people and to cling on as many people as possible because they know their party is collapsing.
	And I think they're going to collapse earlier than we think.
	I think, I predict that.
	I am very optimistic.
	I've become extremely optimistic rather than blackpilling, no blackpilling.
	So I actually see this as the death rattle of the Labour Party in itself.
	I I see this as a big win I see this as rhetoric is changing the Overton window is in transit like you've just said and they're not going to do it.
	Don't kid yourselves.
	They're not going to do it.
	But the rhetoric is there.
	And I see that as a positive, personally.
	It's remarkable, isn't it?
	How you remember when, well, it feels like a lifetime ago now, but after Brexit, when the Tories obviously, you know, it kept them afloat a little bit longer and we got all of the terrible things that that unleashed.
	But there was talk at the time, right?
	No one trusts the Labour Party because it was full of Europhiles.
	you know, people who wanted to take us, drag us back into the EU and everything.
	And there was genuinely talk about it's going to be generations, you know, before the Labour Party ever get into power again.
	Well, we all got sick of the Tories and every single betrayal they'd thrust at us quite quickly.
	And so it's remarkable that in a way, Labour would have been better off if they were no longer out of power now, because they could have just continued to wing from the sidelines.
	But now that they've put themselves so thoroughly into the inherited mess of the Tories and continue to just govern by the exact same playbook.
	even worse in some cases with how brazen they've been with all of the abortion stuff and other such things that no one asked for lowering the French.
	They're going to get wiped out.
	We have to remember though, we have to remember, we cannot extend the olive branch of inheritance because they will use that.
	They'll say, well, this was inherited to us.
	No, no, no, this mess was because of the Tories.
	Well, you could argue that in some of it, but it's exacerbation.
	You can fix this country, I'm going to say.
	You can fix it.
	You can.
	I agree with one of your points and slightly disagree with the other.
	One of them was that this is good.
	Absolutely agree with you.
	The fact that they're forced, they're painted into a corner where they have to use this type of rhetoric.
	Brilliant.
	Brilliant.
	They've sort of got nowhere else to go.
	And I think, I hope, it is their sort of death rattle.
	The only bit I disagree with you, and I don't mean to black people.
	No, no, no.
	On Twitter, I'm like the, I'm sort of an arch, no, no, no, no.
	Like, I'm an arch optimist.
	Like, no, no doomerism.
	I've written an article.
	Yeah.
	You're not allowed to be a doomer.
	But what I will say, I just think realistically, is that Starmer is the type of person, the type of politician, that will cling on by his fingernails.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, he's a lawyer.
	He's the type, I think, I feel like, because obviously I don't know the man, but I do feel like he's the type of politician that will put up with a sort of crazy amount of civil unrest and just stay in number 10.
	That sort of, that kind of old school socialist.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	That's what I feel like, where he won't be removed from power.
	You know, like certain, like maybe, I think of maybe something like a football manager.
	Yeah.
	There's a little bit of pressure and they go.
	or you remember when there was that Justin Welby a little bit of pressure and he resigned i feel like star was not that type of man i wish he i wish he was uh i think there's a petition at the moment yeah and it's got hundreds of thousands like 500 600 000 already i feel like star was a type of politician that's like really, really?
	Yeah.
	Good luck with that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's nothing legally forcing me to resign or call an election, so I'm not going to.
	To add to that, I think, because I agree with that, I don't think just I don't know if I said that if I don't know if I said that I believe that Kier Starmer will resign himself, I don't think that that will be the case.
	I think it will be some sort of revolt within the party itself.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	That's how I view it.
	I think because How many is it, is it for the country?
	Is it forty to sixty, after, with the amount they have, they have to sign a no vote of confidence?
	A vote of no confidence.
	Yeah.
	I think that is potential on the horizon considering how everything's going.
	You've even got Diane Abbott.
	You know, people like that, you know, that have been diehard with the party for a long, long time are turning around saying, actually.
	And not to, you know, string it all on Diane Abbott, you know, all people.
	To say that she's going to be the one to hold the anti Labour revolution within Westminster.
	I don't think that.
	No, I think that.
	I mean, Labour has got so many MPs.
	Yeah.
	It's always the way in a parliament where one party has got such a massive majority that it's their own backbenchers that become the real opposition in a sense, in a sense.
	And Labour massively suffered from that.
	If you look at Blair in 97, it wasn't the case because he enjoyed such a unity within his party and his leadership was so unquestioned and his charisma and the tired of optimism and all that stuff.
	So queer doesn't enjoy any of that.
	So yeah, it may well come from...
	I believe, yeah, I don't, I agree with you, by the way.
	So we actually agree.
	I don't think Kier Starmer is going to, is going to, he's going to cling on to that part of power.
	He's an old Trotsky, I believe.
	Right.
	So he's obviously going to cling on to that.
	And he's a lawyer.
	You know what they're like.
	So, you know, so, you know, it's going to be one of those things.
	He will literally dig his heels in the sand while he's dragged away, you know, not physically obviously, metaphorically.
	From power, yeah.
	But that's what it would be from Labour, I believe.
	That's what Trotz do.
	They almost feel like they almost feel like that's the righteous and correct thing to do.
	You have to do it till the bitter end.
	That's what Leon Trotsky would have done.
	Yeah.
	So, right?
	So, okay.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Okay, so there's there's other.
	countries where we've been sometimes able to deport people to Albania, Herzegovina.
	But the question is, one of the problems is, will they actually go back?
	So for example, Pakistan.
	We've got lots of people we would like to criminals, actual Pakistani nationals or dual nationals, that have done despicable crimes, sex crimes, the worst sorts of things, and then they're supposed to be deported.
	after they've served their sentence and Pakistan just say nope we're not having them and so our governments have always been oh well I guess that's the end of the story they'll have to go back and live on the old street in Leeds or whatever near their victims that are still there or whatever so it's all well and good home office, Yvette Cooper, it's all well and good say oh we've got a list of countries and we're going to send them back but you don't know but you don't, we don't believe you that you're going to do it you're not doing that particularly and
	now talk about things like um oh the number of the number of um deportations has gone up Yeah, there's a little bit of an uptick from some sort of crazy all-time low.
	Yeah.
	And that's like when that's happened.
	It's because it couldn't go any higher.
	It's such a crappy argumenty argument.
	It's like saying, oh, inflation's only at 3%.
	It was at 7%, so that's good, right?
	No.
	No, no, that's still terrible.
	That's still not good enough.
	Oh, look, here's Sir Keir himself.
	Very strong words.
	If you come to this country and commit a crime, you don't get to stay here, except you will.
	Except you do.
	Because the government's weak as crap.
	You will face deportation at the earliest opportunity.
	No one believes you.
	What is that?
	Really?
	Might be believed someone like Rupert, though.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We will send you packing.
	We will send you packing, says the government says right says is it mahmoud what's her name yeah yeah mahmoud yeah our justice secretary yeah um yvette cooper saying we're going to send them packing like it just doesn't it's just strange i'm going to play that but there's no point playing that um yeah yeah there she is oh yeah this woman's in charge of trying to keep us safe really yeah
	The confidence in the people out there, if you're going to read the room, read the temperature.
	I mean, we, I'm sure, suffer from being in some sort of bubble because we're right-leaning but it does seem to be doesn't it because i try my best to avoid that sort of thing right it does seem that the general mood out there well if you just look at how reform the milk toast containment project that is reform how well they're doing just that the tiniest bit of slightly redder red meat is through the roof so the real feeling i suspect
	real real feeling in the country is way more than that way deeper than that no one believes sabana mahoud is going to do the job nobody nobody believes yvette cooper no is gonna save us and what's more the uh the whole coalition of people that labor had any chance to keep a hold of are just going to go to corbyn at the next general election as well so they can't even just count on the left-wing voters
	anymore to be like well with the most left-wing party you have oh aren't times changing i'm loving the your party thing oh yeah i so that it will split the yeah the center center what we needed and the father left i the labor vote they will split the labor vote lovely lovely jubbly where and and naya do you know he sort of does sort of just about just sort of make the right noises sometimes um that all
	prisoners from overseas will be sent back yeah thanks that's the bare minimum but if that's not the default position though yeah right i mean that is what yvette cooper and the home office are saying aren't they really that is what robert jenrich saying um that's what all apart from sort of the greens and the lib dems and muslim independence or whatever it's what they're nearly all saying and you even get sort of the bbc or bbc adjacent type mainstream media organs sort of forced
	again sort of painted into the corner of saying oh maybe this is what is required maybe they don't just completely demonize like the mainstream media isn't demonizing yvette cooper in the last news cycle for daring to say we're going to increase the list of countries that we deport people to they're just like oh this is this is happening now this is what's going on um yeah so again that overton window sort of uh always shifting one of the other i think uh talking points is the idea of okay so a foreign national
	commits a crime and they're convicted they're caught and convicted of it here should it be the policy then that they're just immediately deported to their country of origin because that is sort of what the government is saying again no one believes they'd actually do it they're not going to actually do it but that's the policy they're saying they want to do that i mean is that good there's a few different ways of looking at it uh because what you could do is you sentence them to their to their sentence here they do their time here
	obviously costs us money and fills up our jails but then at least some justice has been served then at the as soon as they their sentence is up they're then deported taken straight from the jail to the airport or the boat and sent home okay so at least some justice has been served but at our expense um or you
	send them directly from being sentenced in court to the airport where they then go to their own country i mean i would rather that because i don't i want them out of the country as soon as humanly possible and i don't want it at that sense but so but the problem is they may well get to their country libya nigeria bangladesh wherever it is and that's
	that country say yeah you can go free yeah yeah yeah so that's why we don't recognize the uk courts and the sentence they gave that that i think there must be some sort of coordination with embassies then there must be some kind of coordination.
	We have a foreign national here from X country.
	We have to now coordinate with the embassy of that country and to have like a department or something of in charge of foreign criminals or their own nationals for criminals that have committed crimes overseas.
	And then they go in and they obviously look over the case with the British and then come to a formal agreement like we're going to send this person back but also the punishment still stands with you and um I think that's the way to sort of tighten it maybe.
	Well, that would be nice.
	It's just a little bit.
	It sounds utopian, then it is.
	Sorry.
	It's just a little bit.
	I'm so happy.
	And it relies on a trust of the government.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's a little bit difficult because we have to add sanctions in if they if you if there's disagreement, it's going to be quite messy.
	There's going to be a lot of red tape.
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	So, no, it's a bit difficult because, one, you have to get that government to agree to loads and loads of things.
	Secondly, that it could go one of two ways.
	One, they could say, well, the crime you committed in the UK is different to how we would interpret it.
	The crime you commit in our country, that's not even a crime, say.
	Or, we don't, we don't, the UK sentenced you to seven years for some sex crime and for us we're like no well done if anything then it should be then it should be we are sentencing this national to this minimum years and if you and then you have to agree to that you have to force the hand essentially you have to agree to this sentence but if you would like to addition yeah well then i was going to say it goes the other way it could be say they committed a really heinous crime heinous
	yeah and in their own country Saudi Arabia say or Pakistan or something.
	The punishment for that is death or like a hundred lashes in the public square or something like that.
	So it used to often be, well it still is often.
	the argument here in Britain that we can't deport this person back to their country of origin.
	Right.
	Because that country's got a terrible human rights record and this person will be tortured or executed and we can't possibly have that so they have to live the rest of their life in Leeds or Birmingham.
	Yeah, that's that argument you hear that argument a bit less I have noticed like again in this news cycle where Yvette Cooper's talking about increasing the number of countries we're going to send people back to I haven't seen a massive pushback from from bleeding hearts and traitors, you know, like someone like Shakrabati or something saying, oh, you can't deport people back to these countries because they'll be tortured.
	or put to death or something.
	I've seen a bit less of that.
	Because it just doesn't wash, I think, as much anymore.
	The British, the average British native, I don't, I don't care.
	They just can't be in Britain anymore.
	I just don't know what's, what happens like after.
	Like, like, you said, like we're talking all this about policy, like, you know, is there an agreement with the other country?
	What would happen if they refuse?
	You know, all of this.
	These are all extremely important questions that need to be addressed.
	None of the media are going to do that.
	No.
	Nobody.
	Nobody is going to do that.
	And these are the most important questions.
	Because, like, you said, someone who's done a heinous crime.
	Axel Rudikabana or someone or whatever, I don't know.
	And just a crime like that, right?
	Deported and then what happens?
	Where do they go?
	Like, is it like you said, Rome free or is there an agreement?
	Like, and nobody's asked that.
	Nobody.
	I've not seen it anyway.
	If you try and have that discussion, quite often they still try and shut you down, don't they?
	But then what's the point of announcing the policy then?
	And I'm trying to say this from someone who is trying to, it's near enough impossible, but trying to be like, okay, well, if I was.
	in that position, like, how would you do it?
	Like, and trying to brainstorm with that.
	They've announced it, so now I want to know, well, what happens after?
	And no, nobody.
	Sorry, I'm repeating myself.
	The fact that we don't get it, the fact that they don't talk about it in detail does say, doesn't it?
	It does tell us.
	Just words.
	That it's just red meat.
	It's just a bit of gaslighting.
	It's just one more step in that endless ladder of we swear guys, trust us, bro.
	We're doing stuff to make you safer, to try and revert, to try and help the demographic issue.
	But they're not going to do any of it.
	They're not going to do any of it.
	To save our party.
	Yeah, right.
	Meanwhile, restore just a cavalcade of baseness.
	Meanwhile, Rupert and Harrison and Charlie and the likes are, it's just like an endless stream of super base stuff.
	That is art.
	I really want them to make an actual party I can vote for.
	Really, really want them to do that because at the moment it's still not an actual party, is it?
	But yeah, just being unapologetically based.
	restore and talking about actually talking about legal immigration now and going down the Douglas Carswell route of talking about stripping citizenship from people.
	Yeah, you're given a citizenship.
	Well, we can take it away again.
	Or even that you were born here.
	Yeah, well, we'll have to look into that actually.
	Yeah.
	That's not written in stone.
	No, it absolutely isn't.
	Just reverse mass immigration.
	It's not like, no, we need a net zero migration.
	We'll clutch the pearls, wring the hands.
	We'll go for a net zero migration policy.
	Very expressive.
	We need mass re-migration to the tunes of millions is what we need.
	And Restore sort of begins to talk about that sort of thing just explicitly.
	Start sending them back, basically.
	This is quite a based one.
	The collaborators.
	Collaborators, yeah.
	Basically the families of these rapists that may have been complicit in it, knew about it, was silent about it, covered for them, whatever.
	we need to think about deporting you you as well One of the other things with things like this that Restore put out that I really like personally as a form of psychological warfare is where they'll say something along the lines of just all the foreigners who hate Britain have got to go.
	Don't say how many that is.
	It's just like however many is necessary.
	However many fit that label, you know.
	I want my country back and I want it to be safe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I don't want to be flooded with fifth columnists.
	Yeah, someone like Dwayne Towler clutching his pills.
	Oh, people that haven't been convicted of any crime.
	You're going to deport them.
	Yeah, we think about it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just abolish asylum.
	Yeah, stop.
	Yeah, we don't need it.
	We're not obliged.
	Britain isn't some sort of overflow car park for the world's detritus.
	We're not obliged to give asylum to everyone in the world.
	That's madness.
	Oh, yeah, look, so the Labour government can say, oh, deportation's up.
	Yeah, from an insane low.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's a bit of an uptick.
	Such disingenuous liars.
	It's good data.
	It's good data.
	It's important.
	Restore points it out.
	Everyone should join Restore or at least follow them on there.
	free migration can save britain clear them out they need to be cleared out clear them out pakistani rapists should be behind Audi-Arabia should be behind bars in Pakistan.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And the thing is as well, this is something that people can trust because it's obviously consistent.
	It's obviously coming from a point of principle.
	It's not, if Labour was sincere, this would have always been the position.
	Right?
	But it wasn't.
	It's, oh, things are getting a little tough for us.
	So we'll just come to that really sensible position now that everyone has been screaming at us to come to for years.
	It's like, no, it's...
	I do actually believe, have faith in Restore and Rupert Lowe and some of the other people like Nick Tencone or Britain First, a number of these parties and organisations, they're not containment projects necessarily.
	I do have faith that if Rupert Lowe was magically a prime minister with a massive mandate or an autocrat of Britain or something, that he would do this.
	that I may be proven wrong on that with only the future.
	No, I don't think so.
	No, I don't think so.
	You don't have faith Rupert would do this.
	Oh, no, yeah.
	Oh, no, yeah.
	Sorry.
	No, I thought you meant, I thought you were saying something else.
	Sorry.
	No, yeah.
	Carry on.
	Sorry.
	Ignore me.
	I take your point, though, as well.
	And also, the thing is, I think we all have to be mindful of is that because of the sheer scope of the betrayal, because of how much that the people of Britain have had to endure over the decades now, because the establishment has slid more and more away from the actual wishes of the people, it's created this whole atmosphere of distrust where we don't really trust anything.
	And everyone who comes up on the horizon, we have to question, we have to question, rightly, are they sincere?
	Are they going to burn us again?
	Are they going to betray us again?
	But at the same time, we shan't be able to to succeed if we don't find a way to trust.
	True.
	Right.
	We do need trust in order to win.
	But we have to be sure we're putting it in the right people.
	Yeah.
	I agree with that.
	45% of Britain.
	I suspect that even is low.
	It's low.
	I think there's the silent people that will go out to these...
	Right.
	So the reality is much higher.
	If anyone's just listening to the audio, it's a graphic that says 45% of Britain supports reversing mass immigration.
	I suspect it's a lot higher.
	It's a lot higher.
	I swear if Nigel became truly based.
	It's actually saying stuff in the nativist interest.
	He'll be polling twice what he's polling.
	I'm convinced of that.
	Negative immigration.
	Yes, please.
	Lovely job, boy.
	And just simply, we must put our own first.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's got to happen.
	Okay, so...
	I've run out of time.
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	I didn't know what was going on there.
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	And then I was like, Hang on a minute, no, what's going on?
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	Yeah.
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	One quick thing I'll say is to anyone who's watching this that's had issues getting their Islander magazine is that I always thought when we started this thing, I always thought one of the least of the headaches about it was putting the bloody physical thing in some sort of envelope and putting it in the mail.
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	unless unless you've ever done a mass mailing you just wouldn't know that that's a actually a complex thing decline all around anyway uh we've got um uh logan pine saying uh the dark lord trying to save his party but his incompetent minions keep dropping the ball.
	Yeah, most likely.
	Well, I mean, obviously Blair will want the Labour Party to survive.
	It's just who's going to be there to keep the lights on at this rate?
	And that's the thing as well.
	A lot like with the Tories, there's no talent behind Starmer to come in and save anything from them.
	They're all, Mized Balls is not going to become Prime Minister.
	Who would it be?
	If he just, yes, tomorrow.
	If he tomorrow just disappeared.
	Who would it be?
	Rami Badinock.
	Perfect.
	It's one optics that will be.
	If there was a leadership contest, I guess Yvette Cooper.
	It would be a vet.
	It probably would, wouldn't it?
	Or Angela.
	Maybe Angela.
	It'll probably be Rainer.
	I don't actually know who's got the biggest block within the party.
	But I would imagine it would be probably Yvette Cooper would be the next leader.
	It'd probably be a vet, yeah.
	gangline says instead of using hotels why don't we fill up their embassies uh with the people whilst we process them well i mean It's good.
	Quite often going in their embassy, it's like a big Georgian building somewhere in Knightsbridge that's even more luxurious than the hotel they're in if we put them there but yeah at least they're would be off our soil technically speaking technically yeah uh habsification says anyone committing sex crimes should receive yes okay I'm not going to read that habsification but I take points probably best and thank you thank you for all the fed posts it's the next one we can't read out either yeah
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	Right.
	This segment that we're about to do, I believe is an incredibly important one.
	I've been investigating this for a couple of months.
	I've had stone walls, but I finally managed to receive some data from the Home Office, who have kindly given it after a bit of pressure, which is great.
	I've already done a video on this a few days ago and I've uploaded it.
	Wasn't it freedom of information stuff?
	It was, yes.
	My favorite thing to do in my pastime believe it or not And I think I wanted to do this segment essentially again because I've already made a video on it, but I thought it was important to bring it to the lower seaters for a wider audience as well because of how important it is.
	Obviously, what we're going to do, obviously, I've been sent a list of data on the 14 NGOs and charities that have been formally engaged by the UK Home Office in influencing asylum accommodation policy between 2020 to 2024.
	Best behaviour on this one is what I'll say.
	I have to present this as fact a fact, but I will be naming the CEOs and directors behind each of these companies that have been listed by the Home Office.
	That's all I have to say.
	Before we go into it, Bo, would you like to do some chilling?
	It's your turn.
	It's my turn.
	You should buy Islander.
	I actually really, really love the magazine.
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	This is an outsider's perspective.
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	Obviously, I'm biased because obviously I, you know, come here a lot and do segments, but also I know Rory very well, and he does a fantastic job with all the artwork and just arranging everything.
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	So, okay, let's begin.
	So, like I said, in this investigation, I'm going to reveal the 14 NGOs and charities that were formally engaged by the UK Home Office through Freedom of Information.
	So many of these groups shape the direction of UK immigration policy behind closed doors with limited public scrutiny and in some cases taxpayer involvement.
	So here's the request that I've been given back.
	So we'll just go through it a bit.
	Thank you for your email on the 8th of July.
	We've included it in Annex A. So your request has been handled.
	If you're dissatisfied X, Y, and Z, as part of internal review, the department's handling of your request would be reassessed by staff who are not involved in providing you with this request.
	So I originally sent the request.
	They said, no, we can't give you that information, sorry.
	And I asked for a list of NGOs or charities that have been formally engaged, et cetera, et cetera.
	For each organization, please indicate the nature of engagement, for example, consultation, funding, delivery partner, MOU, and the years of involvement.
	And I'm not requesting any detailed correspondence or raw documents, just a structured list, because you have to do it condensed, because that's the way that it forces a department's hand to give the information by law and this is what they've given me in annex b so it's given me a list between 2020 to 2024 of every organization and type of engagement so it says based on the information you provided here is a structured list of non-governmental organizations
	and charities that were formally engaged by the home office in relation to asylum accommodation including the type so i thought we could go through each particular organization uh i just want to as well disclaimer i'm not accusing anyone of wrongdoing or anything like that this is purely just based on facts that the Home Office has provided me.
	But I think it's important to look into these particular organizations.
	As Charlotte has said, in her opinion, she says charities are the main drivers of open borders.
	She said there's lots of them and it's very incestuous slash self-perpetuating.
	Private and state funds are problems.
	Some charities end up indirectly receiving taxpayer funding, for example being funded by taxpayer-funded charities.
	And she says it's a racket.
	So yeah, I think it's important to bear that in mind as we go through.
	But like I said, an opinion.
	So the first one we have, if I just bring the mouse down to this document.
	Okay.
	So just taxpayers involuntarily, unknowingly.
	Unknowingly.
	Unpotential.
	They don't list exactly which ones, but I'm sure that people like, of course, Charlotte have looked into these charities, other people.
	I only know a surface level, so I'm trying to get up to speed with it.
	So I don't know which ones yet, but I'm sure we can find out.
	But the first one in this, if I just go back.
	Oh, no.
	That's all right.
	I'm going to go back to the FOI, if that's all right, with the list.
	So we're just up here.
	Thanks, Samson.
	Lovely.
	So the first one is called Micro Rainbow, and they're a support charity for asylum seekers that are LGBTQ plus, and their consultation was via the NASF and SEG meetings, so what that means, I've got this written down here somewhere, but it's basically stakeholder, policy stakeholder meetings.
	So they'll have like a round table essentially, and they'll have a representative there, and they'll talk about the policy at hand, so in this particular instance it's the asylum policy.
	So just to give you a background of what each of them are and what they do essentially.
	So they specialise in supporting LGBTQI plus asylum seekers and their founder, who his name is Sebastian Rocca, has been recognized internationally for quote, inclusion work.
	And that's the next one here.
	If we, oh no.
	There we go.
	Sorry about that.
	That's this guy, Sebastian Rocca.
	So obviously he's got a Wikipedia page there as well, which you can look into.
	An Italian man.
	An Italian man, yes.
	Right.
	Yes.
	The next one is the NACCOM, so No Accommodation Network.
	So once again the same type of consultation.
	The CEO was Dave Smith as well.
	It's a UK based coalition of grassroots groups working on housing issues for migrants with, quote, no recourse to public funds allegedly.
	I believe he has stepped down as well.
	So I don't quite know who the next person will be or is.
	I believe it's quite recently.
	I believe there's an article as well on their website too.
	Another one is the British Red Cross, which as we know is a massive humanitarian charity and emergency response unit almost.
	I mean it's been famous for a long, long time.
	Yes.
	Started by I believe, oh what was, I had his name written down but it's not here anymore.
	I think Lindsay, I think his name was back in 1870 or something.
	So very historic.
	But it's now headed by Patrice Botsana Sita, originally from South Africa from 2023 onwards and is the UK arm of the global red cross network with statutory duties in emergency support and migrant aid.
	The next one is refugee action.
	Now I want to show you this article in just a second.
	I just need to go back down onto this.
	Forgive me, I'm terrible with you.
	That's right.
	I can do the one on that side for you.
	Cool.
	So refugee action is the next one, which is a charity assisting asylum seekers with integration and legal advice.
	So these ones have been named as well as being around the table between 2020 to 2024 with the Home Office.
	And the CEO is Tim Naor Hilton.
	And he had written this article, which I found it's for the big issue.
	We all know it's a massive newspaper for, I believe, the homeless as well.
	It's a big charity for the homeless.
	But he wrote back in December 2024, the root causes of the UK's racist riots remain.
	The government must be brave and destroy them.
	This is his words.
	And he didn't mean destroy, Tim.
	I think he So I double checked.
	I believe he's talking about the root causes which allegedly is in this article.
	What being annoyed that our women folk are being sexually assaulted?
	What that, Tim?
	Well, I agree we do need to destroy those root causes.
	We can do that by not having those people in the country.
	Surely, Tim.
	Yes.
	Yes, indeed.
	And I believe that this is in reference to the Southport riots because this was written in December twenty twenty four and is talking about, I believe, the riots happening during that time just beforehand.
	So yeah, the Axel Ruder Kabana case and why people were annoyed and angry because of that.
	So moving on.
	So the next one is called Asylum Matters, which is a type of advocacy project amplifying refugee slash asylum voices.
	that same consultation as well between the years 2020 to 2024.
	The director and CEO is Louise Calvey and the, It's an advocacy focused group that lobbies for policy changes and coordinates regional campaigns on refugee rights as well.
	Okay, and I've got, there's plenty more.
	Like I said, there's 14 that have been, of course, part of this.
	The next one is the, sorry, sorry, just back one.
	So the next one is the Scottish Refugee Council, which is a Scottish-based charity.
	Once again, the same years, 2020 to 2024 and same consultation.
	The CEO being Sabir Zazai, who was an Afghan-born refugee.
	And they work on housing, legal aid and integration for asylum seekers in Scotland as well.
	Coming to our country and that's how you thank us.
	Looks like Martha Scorsese.
	And the next one after that.
	Sorry.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	Next one is Refugee Council, which is a big historic, I believe, charity fund or trust as well.
	Not trust, sorry.
	Charity that has been involved as well.
	Consultation once again, same thing, same years, and it's one of them UK.'s most prominent refugee organizations dating back to the 1950s as well.
	The CEO is of course, let's have a look, the CEO is Enver Solomon with the chair being Rachel Orr.
	I believe that's right at the top as well.
	That's him there.
	So the next one we have is ASAP, Asylum Support Appeals Project, which is a legal charity for asylum support appeal hearings.
	And the director is Marion Francis Edge, according to Company House.
	And it's a legal focused NGO offering support to destitute asylum seekers challenging home office decisions.
	So I'm noticing as well that there are lots of different types of charities, NGOs, organizations already from people that give legal advice as well as legal advice on like housing, obviously, because with the home office, but also rights and aid and lots and lots of different types of strands.
	All the different means to just keep them in the country.
	Exactly.
	And what's interesting as well is there's no group that does maybe the opposite or has like an opposing opinion or an opposing one as well.
	If we did have the policy where you were detained or held on remand until you were just deported then there would be absolutely no need for a whole organization to make sure you're not homeless.
	We wouldn't be homeless, you'd be held on remand.
	Right?
	Right.
	So that would clear that up for a start but anyway.
	Yeah.
	The next one, Right.
	So we're starting to see a bit of a, almost a bigger picture and a bigger, bigger context as to why it's becoming quite increasingly difficult for politicians who may be, like, you know, trying to challenge the, the asylum system and the broken asylum system that we're told about as well.
	But there's things in place for as soon as you get here, things in place to help you with your legal troubles, and then something in place to help you with your appeal should you fail first time round.
	Right.
	It's okay.
	They've got all the bases covered.
	Indeed.
	So this next one., sorry, I think we just touched on that.
	The next one here is Freedom from Torture.
	So this was a type of medical and therapeutic support for torture survivors between the years 2020 to 2024, the CEO being Sonia Skeets, and it's a group that lobbies on behalf of torture survivors in asylum cases.
	But this same particular one, after doing a bit of digging, because they've been going around, like it says there, like over forty years, they were lobbying against the Rwanda scheme, the one that the Tories set up.
	so they were really lobbying against that that particular process and it seems as though that of course failed uh completely yes yes well it's because they've got human rights a record of human rights abuses in rwanda is that the case i don't i actually don't know i believe that there has been yeah over the years i'm going wrong i was against a rwanda scheme too but i suspect for different reasons right right right it was always a one-in-one-out thing anyway yeah right we're just going to exchange
	what like Albanian asylum seekers for a Rwandan person.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't use it.
	You don't pay them for the privilege.
	So it was always a swift.
	It was always this direction at best because yeah because there was a big there was i think i remember the rwandan scheme there was a big push for different types of campaigns both for and against and everyone had all these different sorts of opinions and different sort of basis to why it would and why it wouldn't work from both the tories and labour and I believe I need to double check this,
	but I believe Freedom from Torture, yes, was part of stopping the Rwanda scheme, allegedly.
	And yes, part of the lobbyist groups for that.
	But still there, So it's not just Rwanda.
	It could be others as well, which I don't know yet.
	And the next one is Rainbow Migration, formerly the UK Lesbian and Gay Immigration Group, which is a type of charity helping LGBTQI plus people with asylum claims, same years 2020 to 2024, and provides legal guidance and advocacy for LGBTQ plus migrants, including those fleeing persecution.
	And that is Leila Zadeh.
	Of course, the CEO or executive director.
	The next one is the Helen Bamba Foundation, which is a charity, again, providing rehabilitation to survivors of trafficking and torture as well.
	They've had the same consultations, 2020-2024.
	The CEO is Alison Pickup, and they offer clinical and legal support for asylum seekers suffering extreme trauma.
	So like I said, I'm going through all these charities that the Home Office has given me and just giving just a broader context on who they are and what they do.
	Just a reminder.
	And the last one as well, oh no, there's a couple more others.
	I'm so sorry.
	It's quite a lot, 14.
	Migrant Help is one, which is a direct support charity for asylum seekers.
	And they were actually, it wasn't just an NASF consultation.
	They're a delivery partner, what is called AIRE contract.
	Now, I have the actual...
	Two seconds so yeah the National Asylum Stakeholder Forum, which is the NASF, and its Strategic Engagement Group, so SEG.
	So Migrant Help acted as a delivery partner for AIRE services, otherwise known as advice on individual rights in Europe.
	So that's a specific type of strain as well.
	So that strays away from the original just consultation.
	They're actually providing more of a delivery service on help.
	So a bit more sort of coordination in that respect.
	I know it's quite a lot to take in.
	So I do apologize.
	Oh, just so perverted.
	Oh, just so.
	You're right, it is, but just quickly say, it is a bit perverse because I think that's the right word because, you know, on the face of it, isn't that a wonderful, noble thing to try and help people that have been tortured, right?
	On the face of it.
	Yeah.
	But then the reality is you're flooding us with rapists, though.
	Right?
	What a perverse thing to have subverted something.
	as good, even noble as trying to help torture victims.
	To subvert that and make that into some sort of tool or part or cog in the machine of making white people natives a minority in their own ancestral homeland.
	What a disgusting.
	And how many of these people are foreign as well?
	Because foreigners have obviously been let in, first generation, second generation.
	By our good graces, you know, given out, and rather than try and preserve the safe country that they've come to.
	just exacerbating the problem, making it a more dangerous place than they first arrived in.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So like I said, I'm going to just stick with, obviously, what's been given by the Home Office.
	I'm not going to, obviously, for this particular segment, I personally am not going to dive into anything.
	But, you know, so that's, you know, just going to, yeah.
	The next one is ILPA, which is the Immigration Law Practitioners Association.
	They're kind of like a legal professionals membership group that done, obviously, once again, consultation.
	Jonathan Griffin as well.
	And apparently they're currently looking for a new CEO as well.
	But he's part of a sustainability, a sustainability, I believe, company or, It's not a charity like I've said but a legal association that influences immigration policy through expert lobbying as well.
	there's lots of different NGOs charities and even law firms almost that have the Home Office has provided that has explained what is going on in that respect and the last one is so is one that isn't a surprise but that's the
	So the UN Refugee Agency has been heavily involved with, quote, strategic consultation and policy advisory role.
	So the UN has been advising in terms of policy with the Home Office
	Don't take my word for it.
	Like I said, these are all public facing figures of each organisation and this is what the home office has given me so i'm just repeating exactly what the home office has said feel free to go through the list yourself just to double check fact check do what you got to do but i i believe it's in the public interest that people need to know um what is going on you know the broader picture you know we always talk about things like the charities and
	of course with charlotte's particular post as well so i think it's in the public interest for people to understand and know so that's why i brought this information onto the lot seats today and just to share, and that's it.
	No, it's great work.
	It's sterling work.
	It's so good that haven't you been plagiarised?
	Haven't some other mainstream media just basically stolen your Well, your stuff.
	What Abs Focation here says, Lewis and Charlotte have been screwed over by the legacy media.
	Plagiarism is all they have left since these institutions are lazy and slow and can't keep up.
	Their legitimacy is dying out.
	They keep nicking your stuff.
	Yeah, so a bit of context on that.
	For those who don't know, because I have been shouting about it for the whole weekend, so I'm so sorry.
	Yeah, there's been two particular stories that I've broken.
	One was the asylum.
	It was the HC2 certificates that have been given to low income, people of low income in the UK.
	And there was nearly a million of these certificates given to asylum seekers in particular across the nation.
	And I fought tooth and nail to try and get that information.
	And I did.
	And I posted it.
	And the NHS, of course, what they would do, they would take that information and they will post it on the NHS data.
	as they would do if a new bit of information is drawn out but they get rid of your personal details which makes sense so you can't see who looked into it.
	And even though I posted it, several days later, The Telegraph, in particular, or a journalist from The Telegraph, took the story and said it was The Telegraph.
	The Telegraph can reveal that it did it, did it?
	No.
	And that was actually me.
	So I'm so sleazy.
	Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah.
	So sleazy.
	You got no shame whatsoever.
	Yeah, so there was that, and there was the incident of when I did the TV shows that had COVID messaging, nudge unit messaging, lots of different stuff, and I managed to get internal memoemos between the CEOs of all these big broadcasters, the BBC, Channel four, all of these, managed to draw that out and they did the same thing.
	The Telegraph?
	Yeah.
	A journalist from the Telegraph did that, yeah.
	And the same with Charlotte as well.
	They've ripped off her stories as well and passed it.
	She even pitched it.
	I saw it.
	She even pitched the story to them about the asylum seekers that were receiving Valentine's Cards from school.
	Did you see that?
	Yeah, I did.
	So she pitched it to the Telegraph and they were like, no thanks.
	And then she said, great work.
	And then was like, nah.
	That's scandalous.
	That's bad.
	That's cheeky.
	Yeah, it's way more than cheeky.
	So, and I want to clear up as well about this because people have been asking me, well, why can't you sue?
	Can't you do this?
	Can't you do that?
	Because it's freedom of information and it goes out into the public domain and it becomes very, very difficult.
	You could say intellectual property.
	You could go down all these routes.
	But unfortunately, it's not like America, where you can just...
	I have no intention of doing something like that because that's not me anyways and people know.
	Yeah, I was going to say, people even know, know.
	No, and I'll be I like the Telegraph, I like what they do.
	You know, there are some great journalists there, you know, Michael Murphy, Allison, Allison Pearson, you know, all of these, all of these people.
	So it's not in my interest to do that, but it is very, very, very annoying.
	We must have had it all, I've seen quite a few segments, even one or two of mine that we do on Lotus Eaters, and then like a few days later, it's a bit on GB News.
	Yeah, well, that's that totally happens.
	Yeah.
	Time from time to time.
	This is what happens.
	Or just a talking point that someone like Carl or Harry or me or Josh will say something, and then it's suddenly a.
	talking point among those of'cause you like you say, you don't own it.
	If you put it out there in the public domain or on Twitter, you then don't own it.
	So it's fair enough.
	No, and it's data.
	It's government data.
	It's a bit annoying that you don't get any credit.
	Or someone actively takes credit for it when it wasn't there.
	Exactly.
	You know, I'm not asking for, I'm just, I'm just saying, you know, revealed by X, Y, and Z. I'm not asking for it.
	Yeah.
	You know, because what happens is a big outlet will take the story from, I'm going to say it, lower class journalists, you know, that are like citizen.
	Yeah, I know.
	Talking about myself, right?
	You know, that are.
	Yeah, I'm talking about John Bowers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like, lower class is how they would probably see it.
	You know, the people who do the research, who send thirty FOI requests every week, you know, and then what they would do, they would see it and go, okay, well, we can have that because, you know, it's in the public domain.
	I'm not asking for much.
	I'm moaning a lot.
	Sorry.
	No.
	Just to say, Connor, I've seen your rumble rant.
	I'll speak to the support team and have that addressed for you.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	No, no, not at all.
	Let's go to a video comments.
	I wonder what this is a clip from.
	What was...
	I think I know what this is from.
	It's like he's watching a massacre.
	I thought that was going to be fun!
	What the hell?
	It was a murder.
	Oh.
	I was joking when I said he's watching a massacre.
	That's actually Harry's face every time he gets another shitlib book through the post.
	People send Harry loads of shitlib books for some reason.
	Yeah.
	Oh really?
	I've seen him.
	It's quite a fine lecture.
	Yeah, it's so funny.
	James O'Brien.
	I'm there going, another one.
	Just out of interest, because I didn't see that original bit of content with Harry and Josh there.
	What murder?
	What was it?
	No idea.
	I thought it was something else, but no.
	Murder, murder, murder.
	And here we are at the Matsu Marketplace Japanese Summer Festival, otherwise known as the Matsuri.
	What's going on?
	Right here is Boris.
	Hakoyaki.
	Hakoyaki?
	It is battered with a little bit of vegetable, a little bit of ginger, and a little bit of octopus.
	And they're really very good.
	Here we are.
	Someone just litter, sorry.
	Someone just litter, like, commit a crime.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	Just litters.
	Takoyaki is very, very nice.
	Yes, hope you bought some.
	Samson agrees, obviously.
	Any more video comments?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	looks like a very funny.
	Hey, Aunt Michael.
	Yes, he did grab my bum, but it's my fault he can't see my hair, so I've just ordered a hijab on Amazon.
	We don't need borders, we need healing spaces.
	After a few yoga classes, they'll stop harassing young girls, I promise.
	We've launched a community art project where local school children write apology letters to the migrants for being British.
	I'm not even from here, but the Labour Party.
	No, they are.
	Oh, is it?
	It's AI.
	Oh my gosh, did you get conned by the AI?
	You thought that was real.
	I thought all of this was real.
	The thing is, it's believable though.
	It's believable though.
	We're entering the boomer phase of tech.
	So we're being.
	Oh, it's happened to me once.
	It's happened to me once and I was like, Yeah.
	I've been fooled by loads of stuff.
	Oh my gosh.
	See the one where they did, you can actually see a bullet hole open up in Trump's ear in the Trump assassination?
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	I was fooled by that.
	Right.
	Oh.
	I was like, whoa, you can actually see the whoa.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I think I hit it on here as well.
	I'm like, well, there's the material.
	You know, you're getting called by AI.
	But the thing is, that's so good because it is believable though.
	I bet there are there will be lip cards that say exactly that sort of thing.
	It's like, um, it will be.
	In fact, that last guy that said we're getting school kids, primary school kids to write letters of apology, I saw something that was pretty much exactly that.
	For real.
	Well, if we've seen him write Valentine's Day crowds.
	Right.
	Right.
	That's not a million miles away, is it?
	No, no, not at all.
	Let's I'll just rumble through some of these comments and then we'll., right, so Derek Powell says the Bohotel will be a fortress.
	I definitely want the Bohotel has a nice ring to it is that like a eufemism for some sort of like cambodgian death prison no i just spoke when i said the bow hotel oh right okay okay um uh russian garbage human says zero arrests at our protests uh because we aren't prescribed yet yeah well they'll they'll find a reason won't they and um uh from your segment uh bo Bo,
	Pakistan, Eritrea, Albania, Somalia, Morocco, on and on, etc., all absent from the list of countries.
	They are essentially taking the crime league tables and talking about deporting the underachievers.
	Right, yeah.
	Let's make sure we've got a deal in place with Luxembourg.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'd like to visit there, actually, off topic.
	I would like to visit there.
	David Ward says, Reform have announced mass deportations.
	Do you believe them?
	No.
	No, no, I don't, David, not at all.
	And then from your segment, Lewis.
	sorry just real quick the big like mass deportations of people that are criminals and stuff but not like people Yeah, yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	David from your segment, Lewis says, Lewis' research is very valuable.
	It's great getting the receipts.
	Thank you.
	Indeed, indeed.
	And White Rider says, this list man, can we also start...
	Well, there does seem to be a problem with...
	but consider yourself pestered.
	Well, we're over epochs, over like 200 plus episodes now.
	A big chunk of that is all on British history.
	But it might be good.
	It is a good idea.
	Maybe if I did one hour, hour and a half long episode, which was exactly a whistle-stop tour, not real detail, just maybe going from Caesar.
	to Queen Elizabeth II in an hour and a half.
	That's not a bad idea at all.
	Maybe I should do that.
	I could do that.
	250 epochs.
	How much more whistle-stop do you want?
	Yeah.
	Come on.

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