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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters episode 1219.
	I'm back.
	I'm your host, Harry, joined by Bo and Nate, Mr. H Reviews.
	And today we're going to be discussing the RNLI, potentially, allegedly, some are saying, some are suggesting they're people traffickers, allegedly, maybe, probably, maybe not, maybe.
	The deaths of Hulk Hogan and Ozzy Osborne.
	And after the fall of the UK, you're going to be giving us a hypothetical exploration of hypothetically what might be happening after the fall of the UK.
	Also, reminder to everybody that we have Common Sense Crusade with Calvin Robinson tomorrow afternoon after the podcast.
	And also, I'm playing a gig in a band playing music in London on the 30th of August.
	Yes, the 30th of August is a Saturday.
	It's for the WSI.
	The gig is called Stand in Strength.
	You can search that on Google and buy a ticket for it.
	Come down.
	Again, it's in London.
	It should be at the Water Rats.
	And I think if you use a code Lotus Pass, capital L, capital P, you can get £5 off the ticket.
	I will not be playing original music.
	I will be singing a total of one of the many songs that we will be performing.
	So if you would like to come down and see that, please do.
	Let's get into the news.
	I'll just let them know what's the charity for?
	Oh, the charity proceeds for the gig will be going to subsidise costs of therapy sessions for sexual assault and grooming victims.
	Oh, that's good.
	Yeah.
	Amazing.
	There you go.
	So please come down.
	I'd like to see a big full house because this is the first time I'll have been playing music live on stage in slightly over three years.
	So I'm really looking forward to it.
	Nice.
	Cool.
	All right.
	Let's talk a little bit about the Royal National Lifeboat Institution, the RNLI.
	People that are not British might not have heard of it.
	I know we've got a massive American audience and people all around the world.
	So they may not have ever heard of that.
	But it used to be a great institution.
	I mean, it's a couple of hundred years old.
	On the face of it, on paper, a great thing, right?
	To try and save people that are lost at sea.
	I think there was a big storm.
	Ships used to get lost at sea all the time in the pre-modern age, like the 18th, 19th century.
	There was one particular really bad one where loads and loads of people drowned.
	And they thought, if we had just a couple of boats there at that time, we could have saved loads of people.
	So it grew out of that.
	And until fairly recently, until we started being invaded by small boats across the channel, no one had any problem with them.
	So it would be a great thing.
	But in recent times, or since the boat invasion has happened, people have began to have some concerns about their role in it all.
	And so let's just talk about that a bit.
	I mean, recently, very recently, they put out a tweet just sort of doubling down on what they're doing.
	and they sort of very disingenuously saying, we're just saving lives at sea, bro.
	We're just...
	Wait!
	Wait, wait, wait!
	So where the small boats often are sort of too packed and they capsize, particularly in bad weather, I mean, the channel is freezing.
	I mean, all the sea, unless you're in like the Bahamas or something, will be freezing.
	You haven't got long in the water.
	So one take is I don't actually want people to die at sea.
	So if they have actually capsized in bad weather, yeah, save them.
	But then, you know, they should be detained and sent back.
	Not just put into general population.
	So, okay, that's one of the things the RNLI are saying.
	We just save lives.
	Well, that's a bit disingenuous because they're doing more than that.
	I mean, Nigel Farage and others have noticed that they just seem to be ferrying people.
	Of course, we see images like this all the time where they just seem to be acting as some sort of taxi or ferry service.
	So on days when the sea is fine and the boats haven't capsized or anything, they go out into the channel and basically escort them onto our shores, where, of course, eventually they're put in a hotel somewhere near you.
	And who knows who they are?
	I mean, they're nearly always men.
	Or near your daughter's school.
	Right.
	That's a frequent one.
	And they're nearly always just young, fighting-age men.
	I look two thumbs up from that guy.
	Invaders.
	Just straight-up invaders that shouldn't be here.
	They're very wet, didn't they?
	And so I thought it was a bit cheap, really, for the RNLI to pick a particular clip where they're literally saving lives, which again, I haven't got any problem with.
	I'm not an actual monster.
	But they were sort of saying, this is what we do.
	We're just saving lives.
	You're doing more than that, though.
	You're facilitating an invasion, a wave of, God knows who, sex criminals.
	You're aiding statistical traffickers.
	Or worse.
	Yeah.
	So you're doing the job of the people traffickers to some degree.
	To some degree.
	I mean, the comments under their tweet was, you know, you get one or two saying, oh, you're doing a great job.
	I can't imagine most of them were very positive.
	We see this every day.
	It is, well, quite literally every day, apart from perhaps on the worst days in winter when the channel is too choppy for the invaders.
	Yeah, it's just every day.
	It's a shame, really.
	I grew up on the coast, southwest coast, and the RNLI, if you grow up on the coast, it's a really big thing.
	It's a really big thing because you see them, you support them, they could very well, the likelihood is that they could be called to save your life one day, especially due to the currents where I grew up specifically.
	It's such a shame that the institution itself, because that's what it is, right?
	Like it's not the crew members themselves, because they're all volunteers, like it's sort of a charitable venture.
	The institution itself has effectively just been co-opted by people traffickers, the government.
	Well, yeah, because I imagine objectively are people traffickers.
	We know that, because they dictate the rules that are in place are just completely neutral.
	If anybody on the coast in the waters capsizes, you have to do it.
	You can't prejudice one way or the other, depending who they are or why they're out there.
	You just go out and you save them.
	And like you say, it's the people traffickers who are taking advantage of that neutrality.
	Well, I'm talking about the government.
	And the government.
	I'm aware they released another statement to say we're just doing what the government has told us to do as well.
	And it's like, right, but that's actually not good enough.
	They're just following orders.
	Our actual people traffickers.
	So yeah, you could say you're not a people trafficker, but you're following the orders of people traffickers.
	The government are objectively people traffickers.
	We know that, demonstrably.
	They've told us that they've done that.
	They put a super injunction out on that.
	And it's just not good enough.
	And the thing is, what you highlighted specifically is the disparity between what they put out as their tweet saying, look, bro, we're just saving people, bro.
	It's like, but you're not because they're not wet.
	We know that.
	Because there's wet patches on his legs where he's walking now.
	He's not wet.
	So at what point are you just doing, are you just aiding and abetting people traffickers?
	Like, what are you doing?
	Yeah.
	They'll go into the middle of the channel and pick them up.
	Right.
	What on the threat that they might capsize?
	I guess so, yeah.
	I mean, if there's not capsize yet, why isn't some different authority just going over to them and saying, turn around.
	Border Force.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Why aren't they just saying, turn around?
	Well, if it was up to me in Bows-Britain, it would be that the whole channel, in fact, probably most of the south coast, because they don't all land at Dover, it's all down the south coast.
	I would make that a theatre of operations for the Royal Navy alone.
	Not Border Force, not the Coast Guard, certainly not the RNLI.
	It's for the Royal Navy to police those waters.
	That's what I would do.
	I would just take them out of the equation.
	Because I think both the points you've made are true.
	One, the ordinary person that works for the RNLI, a volunteer, has probably got just good intentions.
	They just want to try and save people.
	And it is also true that it's sort of their mandate to, yeah, not care who it is.
	There's someone struggling at sea who may well drown and we go out to save them.
	That's our mandate.
	So that's true.
	But then it's also true that, isn't it, that they're taking their orders, they're just following orders from a traitorous government who seems hell-bent on flooding us with unvetted fighting-age foreign men.
	So both those things are true, right?
	And on top of that, it's also true that that's not good enough, is it?
	That's not good enough.
	I don't want the RNLI to be doing that.
	Also, it's all well and good saying, well, it's only, what was it, like 1.2% of their launches that they said.
	So, okay, well, what percentage of people are you saving from that launch?
	You know, like per capita, let's pull that one out of here versus other people that deserve it and need it.
	You know, are the launches because is a 1.2% of those launches fundamentally only because they've run into issue or is it all of this stuff where they're just having a jolly being picked up?
	Because if it's this, that's 1.2% too high.
	Like, obviously.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, no, let's get into the granular detail of what that percentage actually entails.
	Yeah.
	But they won't release that.
	No.
	Obviously, it's this.
	Right, yeah.
	all know, right?
	And again, it's making that, Say that we're just saving people.
	We're pulling people out of the water who were going to imminently drown.
	It's like, yeah, okay.
	But that's not the whole story, is it?
	That's not all you're doing.
	And some people have said about the money, because the RNLI is funded, I think, largely, if not entirely, by just donations.
	It's charitable venture.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And so a lot of people have said, oh, your donations must be falling off a cliff.
	But then I saw them tweet, no, actually, at least in 2023 or 2024, we got 10 million more than usual, or something like that.
	You see adverts on TV for them, don't they?
	In your will, I think it's largely older people.
	In your will, leave loads of money to the RNLI or donate to the RNLI.
	I'd like to see whether any of public funds have been funnelled to them via the government, to be fair.
	The government's advising them to do this, which they freely admitted.
	I wonder whether there's public funds that have been funnelled that way.
	I don't know if there's a way for us to find that out.
	But I'd put money on it, that that's highly likely.
	I mean, I would imagine as a charitable source, they would need to be going through the charity commission.
	And then therefore, their actual funds would need to be public.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And again, like they often do, like they did with, say, COVID, where they try and make the compassionate argument.
	They say on their frequently asked questions, less than 1% of our funding comes from government sources.
	But of course, the government can funnel through other things.
	Yeah, they can funnel through NGOs and separate charities that also receive government.
	So you can have multiple different ways of dispersing the funds and getting them.
	That's what the governments always do.
	I just think it's a rotten liar or set of liars to say that if you've got any problem with what the RNLI do nearly every day, certainly in good weather, then you're a monster.
	You just want people to die at sea.
	It's like, well, no, come on.
	Like in COVID, where they tried to make the argument, if you've got any problem with anything that's going on, you just want the old people to die.
	You want granny to die, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Like, why do you want granny to die?
	A mask on.
	And now the government's rubbing its hands together going, you want granny to die, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Support the eugenics bill.
	Or like the thing we did the other day about the online harm bill.
	It's like, oh, you want small children to be exposed to porn, then, do you?
	It's like, no, it's what.
	Either or.
	That's such a reductive argument.
	Yeah.
	It's a myopic from an imbecile.
	I mean, from the online harms bill, doesn't the government already have, I mean, probably dozens of obscenity laws that would already prevent that that just aren't enforced?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would have thought so.
	But no, we need this brand new bill so that we can impose even more restrictions on the internet and censor everybody.
	Just a little bit more, just a little bit more overreach for Ofcom because nobody understands how the law works.
	It's just trying to, again, the argument is manipulative, really, really manipulative, going straight to, oh, you must be a monster if you've got any problems with what's going on, what we're doing.
	Just look at this one element of what's happening, which is very difficult to argue against, right?
	I think.
	I mean, some people might accuse me of being milquetoast here, but just to leave those people to die there isn't the right thing to do, is it?
	I mean, so, okay.
	Mates, Britain.
	Step up from Bose Britain.
	Oh, no.
	Here from the based Olympics.
	Oh, God.
	It's like the Special Olympics, but more retarded.
	Do you say that?
	just saying um uh so yeah i mean i just There is no statement.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Lotus eaters do it.
	Anyway, you get it.
	So, yeah, I mean, this is just in the news cycle a bit.
	I mean, to be fair, one of the things Nigel does do and reformists, they've actually drawn some attention to it.
	Because you wouldn't hear a peep out of the Lib Dems or the Greens or even Labour or even actually Tories sometimes.
	I think I have seen one or two tweets from Tory people saying, wait, RNLI, wait, what are you doing?
	Wait, why are you doing that?
	Like, save people from imminent death, okay?
	But why are you doing that, though?
	Why are you, like, literally ferrying them into Dover when they weren't in any danger and etc., etc.
	And Nigel and Reform have been fairly strong on this.
	Of course, they've got pushback all over the place from it, but it's a fair point.
	It's an absolutely fair point.
	And yeah, they make the argument that it's only a small percentage of what we do is ferrying invaders straight onto British shores.
	It's only a small thing in the scheme of everything we do.
	Yeah, okay, but it's not okay.
	It's not good enough, I don't think.
	So, okay, I just wanted to sort of bring it to the attention of people because a lot of people, I think, will not have, particularly foreign people, may not have ever even heard of the RNLI, let alone be aware of what they're doing.
	And again, the broader point is I wouldn't want to sort of completely destroy the RNLI everywhere else on the coastline, where they're saving the lives of normal, decent people who, through no fault of their own, perhaps, have got into trouble.
	Like, that's a wonderful thing to do.
	I just think it's sad that, like a lot of other institutions and organisations, they seem to have been co-opted, I think you use the word co-opted, or just seem to have been infected with the idea that it's okay to just help the invasion in some way, that there's nothing wrong with that.
	I haven't seen them actually answer whenever there's, whenever on Twitter or something, whenever anyone has accused them of saying, no, no, you're part of the problem here.
	They just don't seem to address that.
	They just fall back on the argument of, oh, well, it's our mandate to just save people at sea regardless of anything.
	Well, they have made this statement in the article here.
	A management consultant who volunteers for the RNLI says, when our pager goes, we're not thinking about anything political.
	We're all thinking about people.
	We're actively compassionate.
	That's what drives us beyond any moral or civic responsibility.
	When we're tasked, we don't know what we're going to be tasked to.
	We're there to help people in their most distressing times.
	So it might just be that they get the call out.
	From who, though?
	I would assume whoever reports that there is some kind of incident going on in the channel.
	To the middle of the calm channel on a sunny day when the people aren't in immediate danger.
	Yeah, that would be coordination from the French authorities and our border force, no doubt.
	And then it's sad that this is what's become of the RNLI because, you know, have some foresight here.
	If you end up facilitating this as an invasion, which it is, facilitating it on a wide degree, a large scale, and these people won't be paying you.
	Right?
	Like, if these people reach a critical mass, they won't be funding the RNLI because they don't do that.
	They don't.
	And so then what will become of the institution?
	It's gone then.
	I have some foresight.
	For God's sake, everything you like, everything you hold dear, everything that has given you that moral and civic responsibility that you feel so beholden to will be gone.
	That's it.
	It will be gone.
	Done.
	You keep ferrying people here.
	You will not have a job.
	The institution won't exist any longer.
	That's a fact.
	It's not sort of speculative, but that's what will happen because it's what happens every single place where these people gain a critical mass.
	Everything goes.
	Everything gets crumbled.
	Yeah.
	I just think it's symptomatic.
	It's just one more example of where something once noble has been subverted.
	We've had our good nature, our good intentions perverted against us.
	I suppose one last point I'll just make is, yeah, the average volunteer, I've got nothing against them.
	It's like so many of these things, like your average worker or volunteer in loads of different organisations, which suddenly finds that they're involved in something actually terrible, suddenly realise, oh, wait, what's happening now?
	What am I a part of?
	Are we the baddies?
	Yeah.
	Are we the baddies?
	That thing.
	So yeah, it's just sad.
	And I think the only way for it to be fixed is what I said, is to take the border force, and we'll need an entirely new border force, I would have thought, and the Coast Guard and the RNLIR, take them out of the equation entirely and put it into the hands of the Royal Navy.
	Of course, the government we've got now will never do that, never ever do that.
	They won't dream of it because that would solve the issue, wouldn't it?
	So they're not going to do that.
	So we're going to have more of this for at least another few years.
	So it's just sad to see.
	All right, let's go through some of the rumble rants that we've received.
	The Engaged Through, we'll pull them out of the water just as soon as we catch our breath from laughing.
	Me, probably.
	That's from the Engaged Few, not me.
	That's a random name.
	Would it be possible to change the image before and after the streams to show the schedule of all programs on Lotus Eaters, Premium and Otherwise, rather than only telling us on the podcast the day of?
	That's not a bad idea, actually.
	Samson has heard that, so perhaps the behind the scenes guys will consider it.
	Samson, pass that on to our back office bods.
	That's a good idea.
	Based ape.
	Harry, I'm thinking of spending four hours writing a book called How to Be Retarded.
	Would you review it for me?
	Well, I've already spent a lot of time reading a trilogy of books on that very subject by James O'Brien.
	So you might want to check out that series.
	But if you'd like to contribute an epilogue, it can't be any worse.
	And it sounds like you'll spend about three hours more than he did writing those books.
	And that's a random name replies to Based Ape saying, sorry, but Harry can't read.
	Just kidding, only Dan and Luca are actually illiterate.
	Very impressive that Luca's been able to scam everyone with Chronicles so far.
	He's an incredible BS artist, I will say.
	Just listen to audiobooks, I suppose.
	He's deaf as well.
	That's the incredible thing.
	He's dumb, deaf, and blind.
	He's the pinball wizard.
	All right, moving on.
	This segment was saved especially for me, given that I am the resident wrestling fan and metal head, because we had the death of two icons in quick succession, the 22nd and 24th of July last week.
	Really rubbish birthday present, I've got to say, both of these in the run-up to my birthday.
	But I wanted to discuss this, pay some kind of tribute to them.
	Earlier on this year, my favourite director, David Lynch, died.
	So pretty bad year so far for huge icons dying.
	Although these ones, I must admit, don't hit me quite as hard.
	And I would like to discuss them more in terms of the idea that we're not getting heroes or icons in the same way anymore as the ones as we did in the times that produced somebody like Hulk Hogan or somebody like Aussie Osborne.
	The diffusion of media and politics to a more decentralized, democratized format on the internet, as much as the government is trying to re-centralize things, means that the kind of cultural phenomenons that these men were don't really come about as often because everybody is able to square themselves away in their own little cultural circles where they don't experience everything the same way.
	The closest a wrestling icon has come to being a Hulk Hogan in more recent years is probably John Cena.
	But he's not Hulk Hogan.
	They tried to create a big star with Roman Reigns and he was pretty good, but he's not Hogan.
	I mean The Rock, yeah, but he's not been an active wrestler anywhere regularly for 20 years now.
	Over 20 years.
	It was like 2003, I think, when he went off to be in Hollywood full-time.
	And he's come back for little stints here and there.
	Stone Cold Steve Austin was up there with Hogan, but he retired full-time in 2003 as well.
	So you don't get that.
	And with people like Ozzy Osbourne, who died on the 22nd of July, the kind of musical stars that we get these days, is there anyone even comparable to the kind of zeitgeist cultural phenomenon, ubiquitous knowledge that everybody just has, that Aussie Osbourne was a singer in a band called Black Sabbath, that you just kind of got from existing in the world.
	Is there anybody comparable to that these days?
	I see on social media and in the news these new stars popping up that seem to sprout like weeds and come from nowhere.
	One of them that I keep seeing people talk about is this, what, Sabrina Carpenter?
	But they feel very artificial and manufactured compared to somebody like Ozzy Osborne, who was just a failed brummy burglar.
	Literally, he was a failed burglar.
	He tried to rob someone's house of a television that he robbed while wearing fingerless gloves because Ozzy Osborne, hate to break it to everybody, was not a role model and was very retarded, even before he started taking all of the drugs that he did.
	But despite that, he was able to be part of a band who went on to become global megastars and inspire a whole generation of new musicians and inspire a sub-genre of rock, heavy metal, which is probably more popular than normal rock and roll music is these days anyway.
	So I think you're right.
	There hasn't really been a musical icon, I guess, a musical star, whatever you want to say, in the respect that most people are endeared towards them.
	So you mentioned Sabrina Carpenter, for instance.
	Most people are like, yeah, I know that this person is a thing, but they don't care.
	I know she exists.
	Most people know who Taylor Swift is and they know her music, or at least they would have heard it.
	Sadly, I've heard it.
	But most people, like, she's not universally loved.
	Like, Ozzy Osborne, there wasn't many people that would say a massively bad word about him.
	You know, they'd say, yeah, he's a bit messed up.
	He's not so good.
	He's not mate in terms of his personal lifestyle.
	But he was still quite an endearing figure.
	Like, was it at home with the Osbournes or something like that?
	I can't remember.
	I think it was just called the Osbourne's.
	But when I was growing up, that being such a popular television show meant that I knew who Ozzy Osbourne was before I'd ever heard any of his music.
	As far as I was aware when I was a child, Aussie Osborne was a guy who was famous for being Ozzy Osbourne.
	I didn't know that he was a singer until I was like 10 or 11.
	And my parents were kind of weird about it.
	They were like, you shouldn't listen to Aussie Osborne.
	That's grown-up music.
	Don't listen to Black Sabbath.
	You need to be a bit older before you listen to that kind of stuff.
	Which now, given the sorts of really heavy stuff that I can be into these days, it seems so quaint.
	Seems so quaint to me.
	I like Warpigs.
	That's a great song.
	I think Warpigs is a great song.
	But I was never into Sabbath.
	I mean, it's even a little bit before my time.
	It's 70s, right?
	when Sabbath were their first two albums came out in 1970 right so it's So it's even a bit before my time.
	And then he was out of the band by the time you get to the 80s.
	Right.
	So even when I was a little kid, it was already Sabbath was in the past.
	And then the Osbourne's come out and it's like, oh, that's Ozzy Osborne.
	Because I was a grown-up by that point.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I had finished uni or whatever.
	And I was like, oh, Ozzy Osborne is, that's what he looks like now.
	Oh, God.
	I mean, he had a very successful thing.
	But he was endearing, but he was endearing in that.
	I only watched a bit of it and it wasn't really about him, was it?
	It was about Sharon and the kids, really.
	He only made sort of cameo appearances, didn't he, every now and again?
	Not that I watched that much of it, but he was endearing.
	Certainly in his old age.
	It's like Alice Cooper.
	It's all very tongue-in-cheek.
	He's not really a demonic figure in any way.
	He's like this burnt-out old brummy with a sense of humour about himself.
	He's not demonic.
	I see loads of really fun clips of Aussie that seem to come from that show, which do just make him look like, yeah, he's kind of, like you say, a burned-out brummy who's still behaving like you would expect a drunken brummy to on any street corner of Birmingham.
	40 millionaire.
	Yeah, but he's been elevated to this incredible status of cultural importance.
	How is that not funny?
	Yeah, and he's just wandering about his mansion, kind of confused, probably thinking to himself, how the bloody hell did I get here?
	Why is there a dog here?
	Shit on the floor, what's going on?
	His giant LA mansion, but he's still this rummy dude.
	Yeah, he's kind of like weirdly parochial in that way.
	He's of his time and he's of his place.
	And that's something that people always said about Black Sabbath was this idea that their very sound was forged by Birmingham with the large industrial factories and the fact that Tony Iomi, their guitarist, lost the tips of some of his fingers in a machine factory accident.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, yeah, it's one of the things that forged their sound because what he did, this is quite a famous rock and roll story.
	He just melted down a fairy liquid plastic bottle and forged himself some plastic fingertips so he could actually play guitar.
	But it was really painful for him to play.
	So after the first few albums, he started tuning the strings lower so that they wouldn't be as tense, so it wouldn't hurt his fingers as much, which is one of the things that helped to create that heavier sound for them.
	That's interesting.
	By tuning lower.
	Yeah, yeah, it is interesting.
	But the whole specter of Birmingham, especially in those earlier days, influenced their sound.
	People compare the really slow, doomy sound of the drums to the sound of the machines, the machines working slowly, like big factory presses just slamming down over and over again.
	So he comes from that, and he was formed by that.
	And in his death, he moved back from LA a few years ago, specifically so that he could be in Birmingham.
	And they played their final ever gig, which I wasn't, you know, they'd played a tour in 2017 called The End, which was supposed to be their final ever tour.
	So I was expecting, okay, there's this big tour, there's this big gig going on on the 5th of July.
	It was in Aston at Villa Park.
	I thought, you know, if they still kick about for a little bit, there'll be more.
	This won't be the end.
	Like the Rolling Stones, I can't believe Keith Richards and Mick Jagger have somehow managed to outlive Aussie Osborne.
	But I suppose they've all taken a similar cocktail of drugs that kind of embalm their bodies while they're still alive and keep them going.
	It's the transfusion of young people's blood.
	Yeah, all bat blood in Aussie's blood.
	mention that because that's one of the famous things that he bit the head off a live bat live on stage and I always thought And I always thought, I found out this morning.
	And I always thought, okay, the old Aussie Osborne is sort of an endearing figure, but that is out of order.
	That's gross.
	That's like, that's horrible.
	What a dickhead.
	But I found out this morning that there's actually much more to the story.
	And he didn't, it's not anywhere near as bad as you think he did.
	He didn't do it on purpose.
	Right.
	It was a publicity stunt that they used to do on like press conferences and in interviews that he would have like a fake goose or a fake swan or a fake bat and he would bite the head off of it so that like in a kind of like an Alice Cooper way, you know, the way Alice Cooper gets beheaded on stage.
	It's just PR.
	It's a magic trick to get people talking.
	So he's on stage one day playing a gig.
	Someone throws a bat on stage.
	A real bat.
	And he thinks, oh, someone's thrown a toy bat.
	Because he was thinking, like, where would anybody have got a bat from?
	You just assume that someone's thrown like a toy or something.
	I'll do the thing that I always do.
	And he says he just bit into it, pulled the head off, and then realized that his mouth was full of blood.
	So he had to get loads of tetanus shots and everything to make sure that he didn't get rabies after that.
	Because nobody, nobody even as insane as Ozzy Osborne was in the 80s, is going to willingly subject themselves to potentially getting rabies.
	And killing a bat unnecessarily.
	Yeah.
	So when I found that out, I feel like that's nowhere near as bad.
	It's not like he went out and bought a bat or caught a bat and then held it ready for this moment on stage.
	I'm going to kill a bat in front of everyone.
	It wasn't that.
	He was the Prince of Darkness.
	So the whole thing was supposed to be part of the image.
	He's the maniac drug addict who's going to go and bite the head off of a swan in the middle of an interview or something like that.
	But then, no, then he actually accidentally does it with a bat.
	Imagine the horror when you realise that the head in your mouth is a real bat's head.
	Yeah, that'd be pretty nasty.
	I think what gave it away is he said as well, as he was pulling it, the wings started flapping and he was like, oh, sh, oh, that'd be awful.
	Yeah.
	But he was well beyond anything.
	I had the privilege of seeing Black Sabbath at Download back in 2012 when he was still mobile and still moving.
	And they put on a really good show, to be fair.
	But this most recent one, you know, he's in very, very bad health.
	Obviously, he was sat on a throne for the whole set.
	He didn't stand up at all.
	So it seems to have been one of those situations where he knew he was on his way out.
	His last two albums that he released, Ordinary Man, Patient Number 9, both seem to have been death albums.
	He knew he was on his way out.
	Pretty sure he was surprised after 2020 when he released Ordinary Man that he still had time to get another album out after that.
	But there were big collaborations with artists who inspired him and he had inspired.
	So it was a big celebration of his career.
	And Samson was going through the track listing earlier and just going, this song's about dying.
	There's other songs about dying.
	Like there's songs called things like Under the Graveyard.
	So he knew it was coming.
	So I'm surprised that he managed to last this long when he knew he was in such poor health.
	But I will be honest, I've never been a huge Sabbath guy myself.
	I really like the album Paranoid, which Warpigs is off of.
	That's their magnum opus to me.
	But of 70s heavy metal acts, I've always been more of a deep purple guy, more into rainbow, early Judas priest.
	But I've got to respect the kind of influence that Black Sabbath had on a genre of music, which is incredibly important to me and incredibly important to a lot of people because I really do see heavy metal as one of the few great cultural creations that has come in the post-war period.
	I see it as an expression of like post-Black Sabbath stuff, which is very bluesy.
	When you start to get to the 80s and even in the 70s with people like Richie Blackmore and Rainbow, I see it as an expression of like a European harmony and European musical styles put into a more modern context.
	More so than a lot of pop music.
	I think you're right to say though that there doesn't seem to be any sort of equivalent these days of someone like Alice Cooper or Aussie.
	I was watching in a documentary because Oasis have done some gigs recently, right?
	Oh yeah.
	And I've watched a documentary just before they came on and Noel was saying that even in the early 90s you could still make it and be a giant band and but come from nothing, come from just a working class normal family, you're not necessarily photogenic or anything.
	And even in the 90s that was possible.
	Certainly obviously Aussie is an example of that.
	But nowadays it just won't happen.
	You have to be extremely, I can't remember who it was, but I remember someone saying a few years ago saying, isn't it surprising now that there are no good singer-songwriters that aren't really photogenic?
	Of course making the point that it's entirely contrived.
	Manufactured.
	Yeah, and they'll pick someone that looks good.
	Maybe Ed Sheeran is the last example of somebody who just looks like a normal guy.
	Yeah, that's actually a good exception to the raw experience.
	I've discussed this before on the podcast, but the music industry seems to have gone through waves, which was the early music industry tried its absolute best to centralize as much as possible and have it so that all the stars were manufactured and created and really overlooked by songwriters and producers who did everything for them.
	They were just there for the image.
	And then in the 60s, the record labels in England in particular signed a bunch of guys who they thought would be like that, but then they signed the Beatles, who it turns out are really great songwriters.
	You don't, in fact, maybe it's a bit cheaper to not hire the songwriters and have the bands write their own songs than the Rolling Stones write their own songs.
	And then all of the record labels realize, oh, actually, maybe we can still make money and release good music if we let all of these guys, if we pick them up for talent and then manage them from there.
	I know.
	Who'd have thought, eh?
	Who'd have thought, right?
	And then throughout the 60s, 70s, 80s, and part of the 90s, you get this huge swath of music that's written by people who are just really good songwriters in their own right, who can make it successful and have the record label machine behind them.
	But in that time, you start to realize, hold up, these guys are also incredibly volatile.
	They are liable to get addicted to drugs.
	If they're a band that aren't led by a dictator who can interchange the members of the band, they might get egos and they might break up.
	And this is causing us a lot more trouble than it's worth.
	So why don't we get a load of ghetto gangbangers who we can write all of the beats for, who we just need to have write a few, like talk quickly over a boring beat produced by Rick Rubin about how many bitches they get on the weekends.
	And all we need to do is feed him drugs and bitches.
	And he's happy.
	And he's, you know, he might die next week in a drive-by shooting, but there's, you know, 10 a penny.
	And they keep all the royalties either way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And now we're left with an age of, what, like Justin Bieber and Katy Perry and Harry Stiles.
	So it kind of recentralized.
	Brilliant.
	And became and went back to having all of these artists being very manufactured in a way that, like, whatever you want to say about his personal choices, like, Black Sabbath were not manufactured in that same way.
	There are so Many stories by the mid-70s of how much they pissed off their record label just because the record label, especially back then, they wanted you to be a workhorse, they wanted an album every year, at least one album.
	They released two albums in their first year in 1970, their self-titled and Paranoid.
	But then by the time you get to the mid-70s, they're all really high on cocaine constantly.
	They're using huge amounts of record label money so they can rent out manor houses in the English countryside to record their albums.
	And they are getting nothing done.
	They don't do anything but drink wine and snort cocaine all day.
	And the record label's constantly on the phone of, have you got anything written?
	Have you got anything written?
	You hear their guitarist, Tony Iomi, being like, oh yeah, yeah, it's coming along great.
	It's coming along great.
	Don't worry about it.
	So they're not manufactured in that same way because manufactured artists wouldn't be able to get away with that same sort of thing.
	It's funny how Spinal Tap, obviously Spinal Tap is a pastiche.
	Oh yeah.
	It's so accurate.
	They're parodying all sorts of people, like Sabbath, The Who, the Stones, loads of them.
	but you can tell certain bits of spinal tap.
	It's, it could be Ozzy saying the thing, right?
	I think, well, some of it is based on Black Sabbath themselves, because Black Sabbath tried to have a big stage show that went wrong.
	So in Spinal Tap, they parody it with the Stonehenge.
	When they get the dimensions wrong, they mix up inches and feet.
	Tiny little tiny henge.
	And then you get the tiny little midgets dancing around it that are bigger than it and knock it over.
	It's so good.
	But Ozzy Osborne, quite famously, said he watched Spinal Tap, and it was only years after that he realized it was a parody.
	Really?
	Yeah, he thought it was an actual documentary because he was like, well, yeah, this is exactly what happens all the time.
	This is the life of a rock and roll band, obviously.
	But anyway, tributes are coming out to move on with a bit of the news.
	You know, his funeral's going on right now as we speak, as we're recording.
	There's a procession going through Birmingham, taking his remains through Birmingham, his coffin through Birmingham, because, you know, Birmingham's very, very proud of where he comes from, where Black Sabbath comes from, being a cultural centre, which it definitely isn't anymore.
	Speaking of which, their Lord Mayor, Zafar Iqbal, said, we're going to pay our last respects and homage to one of the greatest living legends of Birmingham.
	And I'm so certain that Mr. Iqbal has such a genuine and sincere attachment to Birmingham's cultural heritage.
	Just have they really got Ozzy Osborne and Frank Skinner?
	Who else is there?
	I don't know.
	Judas Priest from Birmingham?
	Yeah, Judas Priest are from Birmingham as well.
	They're still kicking.
	They're still releasing great albums, actually.
	Just completely unrelated.
	Here's some demographic map of Birmingham from 1951 to 2021.
	So around the time of Black Sabbath's first album, so 1971, there's Birmingham.
	That's the Birmingham that Black Sabbath were originally playing in.
	And it doesn't really look like that anymore.
	I'm sure Mr. Iqbal really cares about Black Sabbath.
	I'm sure he was there at their first gig.
	I'm sure he cares ever, ever, so much.
	Anyway, the other person, as mentioned, who died on the 24th of July, the day right before my birthday, so again, great birthday present, was Hulk Hogan.
	Now, again, Hulk Hogan is kind of before my time when it comes to wrestling, but I don't think there's any denying that he is, alongside Vince McMahon, the guy who made wrestling huge.
	It was him and Vince McMahon in the WWF in the 1980s that created the phenomenon that was wrestling in the mainstream during that huge boom period in which he was the hero.
	He was the guy telling you to do your exercise, eat your vitamins.
	He was an icon for kids all over America with crossover appeal over into Europe as well.
	Now, there are loads and loads of people within the wrestling industry who are very jealous of that.
	Also, because Hulk Hogan was a big politician backstage and protected his spot at the top of the card very jealously and would, you know, not ruin other people's careers, but he wouldn't let them beat him.
	Because the whole point of the illusion of Hulk Hogan as a character was supposed to be he is the victor.
	He's the good guy who wins every time.
	And a lot of people get very jealous.
	They say, he destroyed my career.
	He kept me down because of this.
	Fact of the matter is, though, all of those people are whiners.
	They are complainers.
	Because if they were at the top of the card, right, they would have been earning this much.
	With Hulk Hogan at the top of the card, they were earning this much because he was the guy who got people through the door.
	So a lot of that is just behind the scenes, jealousy, people trying to tarnish his legacy.
	He wasn't perfect.
	It's quite amusing when you listen to any interview that he did since the internet was created because the man didn't seem to understand that you could Google things.
	So he would lie constantly for no reason in every interview.
	Yeah, he said that WrestleMania 3, the body slam with Andre the Giant, he said, oh, brother, that tore up my whole back.
	I had to get surgery straight after the tragedy.
	Andre let me keep his boots.
	He died three days after.
	That was in 1987.
	Andre died in 1992 or 93.
	Okay.
	So he just lied for no reason about anything and everything.
	But that's the point.
	It's the show.
	He was constantly living the character.
	He was constantly trying to make everything bigger than life.
	And speaking of which, he did create the greatest ever moment in political campaigning history last year when last week.
	When they took a shot at my hero.
	And they tried to kill the next president of the United States.
	Enough was enough.
	And I said, let Trump-a-mania run wild, brother.
	Let Trump-a-mania rule again.
	Let Trump-a-mania make America gray again.
	And it cuts back.
	but he starts flexing immediately after.
	He starts doing the flexing.
	But again, like, you don't get stars like that anymore.
	Whatever you think of that, that's America.
	That's America actually.
	He's a real American.
	He is a real American.
	What was.
	He was.
	A real American.
	See, I'm actually old enough to have been a little kid in the 1980s.
	So I remember it for reals.
	Like, I remember WrestleMania 4 or something, like 1988 or whatever, 1987 or whatever it was.
	So I remember the original Hulk.
	Because he did a turn.
	He was baddy for a while, wasn't he?
	In the 1990s at WCW, he became Hollywood Hulk.
	Yeah, Hollywood Hogan.
	With the black and white rather than the red and yellow.
	But the original, the original Hulkermania.
	It was great.
	Everyone loved it.
	It was electrifying.
	Hollywood Hulk almost destroyed the WWF in the 90s because of how popular it made him again when his career had been on the wane and how much it boosted WCW.
	So if WCW hadn't been frankly booked by morons and they'd taken advantage of that momentum, they would have been able to actually do something.
	But then Vince McMahon discovered Stone Cold Steve Austin.
	A few things I remember from childhood being brilliant, right?
	One was whenever the Ultimate Warrior came out.
	I love the Ultimate Warrior.
	He'd sprint out, like his music would start and he'd sprint into the ring and he'd sort of go a bit berserk, like grabbing the top rope and going crazy.
	That was, to me as a kid anyway, that was electrifying.
	I loved it when the Undertaker got completely knocked out cold and he was dead and then would suddenly just sit bolt upright.
	The old Undertaker when he looked like an actual Undertaker with the hat and like the white face, the old 80s Undertaker.
	That was great.
	And when Hulk Yeah, when people were hitting him and it just wasn't affecting him at all.
	It would make him more mad, if anything.
	And he'd come out and do the big boot and he'd win.
	And the stadium would go crazy.
	Everyone loved it.
	Everyone loved it.
	Yeah, it was showmanship.
	Pure showmanship.
	I mean, because even in wrestling, you don't really get anymore because nobody wants to tell a story like Hulk did.
	Nobody wants to do the showmanship the way that Hulk did.
	Everyone in wrestling these days is, for one, about a foot shorter than Hulk was.
	He was six foot eight.
	He was massive.
	And they weigh about 200 pounds less than he did.
	And all they want to do is acrobatics.
	They want to do amateur acrobatics and flip all over the ring at one another, which can be exciting every once in a while, but it doesn't sell tickets.
	It doesn't get people's interest the same way that Hogan versus Savage, the mega powers collide.
	How that works, because it's a story they're telling, right?
	Oh, I was a Randy Savage fan first and foremost.
	He was my boy.
	He was my favorite.
	Him and Ultimate Warrior.
	I wasn't a massive Culk fan.
	I like Hulk.
	But yeah, I like Randy Savage the best and Ultimate Warrior.
	But Donald Trump, he remembers it.
	He's been involved in wrestling once in a blue moon.
	Going back to the 80s.
	Was it even that far back?
	He would sort of make a cameo.
	Anyway, he's made cameos for a year.
	For a year.
	And I think he was genuinely friends with Terry.
	Hulk Hogan's real name is Terry.
	Terry Belayer, yeah.
	I think he was actual friends with him in real life.
	So it is great to see, you know, like that's a genuine smile from the Donald, isn't it?
	Yeah, because they're mates.
	Yeah.
	So it's a shame to see Hulk Hogan die.
	And I think it was really telling people that had any sort of problem with it.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Anyone that was like saying, calm down, like no one gives a shit about Hulk Hogan and he wasn't that good and all that.
	Well, you obviously hate Western civilization then.
	If you're saying that.
	The big controversy was the fact that, and this is a very convoluted story, so I'll just kind of skim over it, right?
	Okay.
	The big controversy with Hulk Hogan.
	Is he at the UN?
	He's in court.
	Oh, okay.
	He's in a court.
	He looked like the UN.
	It would have been amazing if he was in the UN.
	That would have been on them.
	He's a Vineman's brother.
	No more brother wars, brother.
	The controversy with Hogan stems from the fact that in private...
	In private, he wasn't a fan of certain people.
	Which comes, and we know this because, right, the convoluted story is, in 2006, Hulk Hogan was having an affair with his best friend's wife, which his best friend had supposedly given the two thumbs up on, but also filmed one of these encounters without Hulk Hogan's knowledge.
	Seedy.
	Very seedy.
	Somehow, the gossip website Gorka got a hold of this tape and decided, for journalistic purposes, here is Hulk Hogan's sex tape.
	It's in the public interest.
	They just released it.
	They tried to claim First Amendment protections, but Hulk Hogan sued them into the dirt, destroyed Gorka, which is good because it was a gossip rag.
	The website Gorka, not Sebastian Gorka, the man.
	Yes, correct.
	And he got $31 million for it in settlement.
	But in those tapes that they released, he is heard speaking the naughty words because his daughter was going out with a basketball player at the time, which he wasn't very happy with.
	And so he says the N-word a couple of times.
	And because of that, you have to disavow everything that he did, everything that he ever accomplished, and say that he was a terrible person and never made anybody's lives better.
	Damn all of those, you know, meet and greets he did with kids where he, you know, made them happy and signed autographs and improved their day, anything like that.
	So, there is a lot of people been saying, oh, he was a racist POS, so screw him, I'm glad he's dead.
	This guy, Joey Swoll, put out a very positive memorial to Hulk Hogan at first, and then immediately got told by people that he shouldn't have because he was a racist, and then put out an apology for it, and now is saying, and now is whining about the fact that people are angry at him for apologizing in the first place.
	I don't care about anything like that, because Hulk Hogan, first and foremost, was an American hero, no matter what his private opinions were.
	That was all stuff said in private during a very personal encounter that was leaked by a gossip rag.
	Who cares?
	Who cares?
	I didn't even know any of that.
	Yeah.
	I shouldn't have to care, but I'm just mentioning it because if I don't, there'll be someone in the comments below saying, why didn't you mention the Gorka thing?
	Why didn't you mention that he said the N-word, Harry?
	Well, I have now.
	There you go.
	So, you know, rest in peace to a true American and rest in peace to a heavy metal icon.
	Whatever you think of them, their legacies will far, far outweigh whatever controversies may have cropped up during their own lifetimes.
	All right.
	Sorry to have gone on for so long on that one.
	That's fine.
	My segment was a bit shorter than it should have been.
	Let's see.
	Generated loads of...
	Habsification.
	I do love The Rock's final boss character.
	I did too, until he came out and was involved in John Cena's heel turn and then decided my job is done.
	I don't need to be involved in this anymore, which ruined the story.
	You two will have no context for that.
	Yeah, I haven't watched wrestling since like 2001 or 2 or something.
	But old Habsy will understand.
	That's a random name.
	I was initially indifferent to Hulk's passing.
	Then one of my IRL buds told me he was really racist and I felt a great wave of sadness wash over me.
	The best always leave us first.
	Too true, friend.
	Too true.
	The engaged few, you're too young to listen to Sabbath Harry.
	Here's a Cradle of Filth album.
	If people would like to send me records to the office of like Cradle of Filth or other bands, please do.
	I won't say no.
	Scanlines, internet personalities are the new rock stars.
	It's why all the kids want to be YouTubers.
	Starting in the Abandon the Garage has died off.
	No, I would say actually starting at the guy in the garage is still something that people want to do.
	It's mainly lack of opportunity with venues outside of the big cities nowadays.
	Most small towns in England, I don't know if it's the same in America, but in England don't have venues that platform original music anymore.
	You're lucky if you're going to get a pub gig playing covers.
	So I would say it's more access to opportunity than just because people want to be YouTubers.
	Because music YouTube is still very popular.
	And Instagram guitarists, that's probably where all the money is.
	What you need to do is sit down for 12 hours a day for 15 years of your formative life and become a sweaty nerd at playing guitar.
	And then you'll be able to make money on Instagram playing guitar.
	EC was here.
	I often worry about what sort of world we're leaving for Keith Richards.
	That's true.
	The engaged few do metal was created when a stoned LA guitarist heard Warpigs and thought, I can make an epic 30-minute long song with this one note in a drummer who plays it blistering three beats per day.
	I too am a fan of the band Sleep.
	Bobo Bad.
	It feels like more than anything, the current stars and music feel more like parodies of the past than something genuine.
	Yep.
	Bone Apple Tea Party, Giant Haystacks, Big Daddy and Kendo Nagasaki are still the best wrestlers.
	No steroids, just the power of beer and pies.
	Yeah, there are other secret third ways to get big for wrestling.
	That's like British, again, just for more 70s, British wrestling that was on TV.
	Yeah.
	Where people like Giant Haystacks and Big Daddy, they're like the opposite of athletes.
	Like the absolute opposite.
	And like there was no high-risk maneuvers, none.
	There was no real wrestling, really.
	Hey, man, if it gets people through the door...
	People loved it still because it had character.
	Because it was sort of kind of more real.
	I say what real wrestling is.
	Well, you say more real.
	My granddad used to be friends with local wrestlers in the English like Derbyshire and Cheshire scenes.
	And he would go and, you know, hang out with them backstage.
	And the amount of vitriol when he was friends with the heels that the bad guys would get, he would tell me stories about his friend walking down the aisle, going to the ring, and just old ladies, furious at them, would stab him in the back with pens and sharp umbrellas as they were going past.
	Because K Fabe was still in full effect back then.
	So people believed it.
	Yeah.
	Engaged few, the best friend was a radio personality who went by the name of Bubba the Love Sponge.
	Yes, who I believe got involved in WCW near the end.
	Habsification, the internet did destroy the great cultural filter.
	However, the internet did also prevent nonsense from getting away with their nonsense as well.
	Yeah, that's why I'm kind of nixed on it, because we don't get those same icons anymore, but also it does give a lot of people opportunities that they wouldn't have had otherwise to get themselves heard and out there.
	Johan's Hoogenboom.
	Okay.
	Best clip of WWE is the Steinermath clips, pure gold.
	That is TNA, my friend, although it is pure gold, because I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal.
	Let's go on to your segment.
	I have a...
	Dankie.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Alright, well, we keep talking about the invasion.
	We keep talking about remigration being inevitable.
	David Betts was doing the rounds.
	We've seen the Met Police training to beat up patriots and all this kind of stuff, right?
	So I wanted to explore a hypothetical situation where civil war does break out.
	If things keep going on the trajectory that we're on.
	This is a black pill, I'm so sorry.
	But I wanted to explore it.
	I wanted to see the best case scenario, the worst case scenario, and a middle of the ground scenario, Taking into account migration trends, fertility rates of the individuals that are coming here, the ethnicities, the ideological leanings of those individuals, and just explore what the UK would look like.
	So after the UK falls, this is what we're going to be looking at.
	I'm sorry.
	I know, it's really scary.
	You mean like when sort of a central government entirely collapses and there's no state anymore?
	Well, there is.
	There's no police or anything.
	It's pure anarchy.
	There is some.
	So there is some in this, right?
	So best case scenario, regional pluralism and migrant influence.
	This is the absolute best.
	We're going to start from the best, okay?
	So overview.
	The UK faces low-intensity conflict over economic inequality, cultural tensions, leading to balkanization into semi-autonomous regions.
	Migrant communities, particularly South Asians, Muslims is what they're referring to, obviously Arabs, and Africans gain demographic and political influence.
	Now, actually, you can see that already happening, right?
	This is the best case scenario.
	I know.
	Yes.
	I don't want to cut you off too early, but I do think just very quickly, if there was ever a full collapse situation, it would be pretty brutal, and I don't think it would end well in the long run for the invaders.
	I'll just put it like that.
	All right.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So political influence due to higher fertility rates, but do not fully replace the natives.
	Right.
	That's the best case scenario.
	Regions stabilize through power sharing, maintaining a pluralistic UK.
	Also, I did factor into what the rest of the world would look at the UK as as well in this scenario, because I thought that would be really interesting.
	Because we are obviously, we were the beacon of the West.
	We quite literally fertilize the Western world with our culture.
	That is spawned from us.
	So I wanted to see what the rest of the world would view us if these scenarios happened.
	So we would have reduced global clout in the best case scenario.
	Migration and demographic replacement.
	So dominant groups would be Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims, because combined 2.5 million in 2025 grow rapidly due to replacement rates based on fertility, reaching 10% of the population by 2040.
	Indian, Hindu and Sikhs, 2 million.
	Nigerians, 500,000.
	They would also expand, but at slower rates.
	This is taking into their own documented fertility rates.
	So not great, not ideal.
	Native British, 80% in 2025 would decline to 70% by 2040 due to low fertility rates.
	And emigration, because we would leave, which we're already seeing, we do see that.
	So regional control, Muslims would dominate urban pockets, e.g.
	Bradford, Birmingham, East London.
	They already do.
	This is still the best case scenario.
	It's basically saying it's going to stay as it is effectively with slight change.
	So that would form 30 to 40% of local populations.
	Indians and Sikhs control economic hubs in West London and Leicester.
	Rural areas, e.g.
	Yorkshire, Cornwall, would remain 90% white British, which I could see that happening.
	That's effectively what it is now anyway.
	Outcome, no group would fully replace natives, but Muslims and Indians gain disproportionate influence in urban governance due to youth bulges, 25% of under-18s in cities by 2035.
	It's really, really stark.
	It's really, really, really stark.
	There's more.
	There's a lot.
	I know, I know, I know you're dying.
	I know, but let's just get through this.
	So ideological and cultural impact, Muslim influence, Pakistani Bangladeshi communities push for Sharia-compliant local policies.
	They already are, but stop short of theocratic rule.
	This is the best case scenario due to economic priorities.
	Somali clans remain insular, focusing on community survival.
	The Indian and the Sikhs, so they would promote secularism, economic liberalism, aligning with native moderates to counter Muslim conservatism.
	Their high education levels, 60% degree educated, cement influence in tech and finance.
	Native response, rural natives would embrace reform UK style nationalism, resisting migrant influence, while urban natives adopt multiculturalism to maintain economic stability.
	Cultural shift, UK remains Christian, secular in name, but urban areas adopt hybrid identities, i.e.
	Islam.
	Economic output, Indians and Nigerians would drive urban economies, contributing 20% of GDP through tech, healthcare and finance.
	Pakistani and Bangladeshis fill low wage roles, transport, retail, but unemployment in these groups, 15% strains welfare.
	Rural economies would rely on native-led agriculture, contributing 10% of GDP.
	An impact GDP would shrink.
	This is best case.
	GDP would shrink by 15% due to trade disruptions, but stabilizers as regions form trade pacts.
	Muslim-run cities like Bradford face economic lag due to low skills.
	I'm laughing, but I can see all of this happening.
	Sorry.
	Chime in now.
	Come on.
	I want to get through the bulk of it.
	Yeah, well, I was just going to say, I've said it before, I think, even a while ago now, that I think that's what will happen is it won't, in fact, it won't necessarily just be pockets of foreign people in the cities.
	Eventually, looking far beyond 2050 or 2060, there will just be pockets of white people, rural villages and towns and hamlets, which are majority white.
	They become the pockets.
	Which is effectively what this is.
	And that's what I can see happening.
	White flight would occur.
	Everyone would just leave, which they already have.
	Everyone's just left these cities and gone, this is just full of detritus.
	I'm gone.
	I'm done.
	The other thing I was going to say, which springs to mind, is that we have had similar things like this happen before.
	So the first thing that sprung to mind was when the Romans left in 409, 410 AD, left, the state just collapsed.
	Effectively, completely collapsed.
	Any sort of central government just disappeared kind of overnight, almost overnight.
	Also, During the 6th and 7th centuries, the invasions of the Angles and Saxons and the Dukes, again, some sort of mass well, civil unrest is putting it kindly.
	Or even in the very early 12th century, we've got the anarchy known as the anarchy.
	The contest between Empress Matilda and Plantagenets versus Stephen of Blois and his progeny.
	Again, a type of anarchy.
	There's no central government, really.
	There's certainly no police force or anything in the 12th century.
	So Britain has already gone through convulsions of this magnitude.
	Let's not even mention Viking invasion.
	Anyway, carry on.
	So yeah, economic output.
	I covered that, didn't we?
	Sorry.
	Crime rates.
	Now, this is interesting.
	Crime rates and group interactions and governance.
	So this is best case scenario.
	Trends.
	Urban crime would rise by 20%, even though it's sky high now, but it would rise by 20%.
	Would Pakistani Bangladeshi youth overrepresented in gang violence, e.g.
	drug trafficking, knife crime?
	Somali groups would engage in clan-based disputes, which they already do.
	this story is in the near future this is by 2050s or by How is it that you calculated all of this, or was this just a thought experiment that you put yourself through?
	So this was narrowing down all the statistics through AI.
	All right.
	So a probability machine, basically using it for what it's actually designed for, inputting data and creating probable scenarios, effectively.
	Just hard facts.
	That's all it is.
	It's just taking into account hard facts.
	So native far-right militias would target migrant areas, sparking riots.
	Yeah, I mean, I can see that.
	Don't condone it.
	Mitigation, regional police backed by EU training would reduce crime through community policing.
	Homicide rates would stabilize at 1.5 per 100,000 by 2030.
	Group interaction, well, tensions would flare between Muslim enclaves and native nationalists with sporadic violence.
	And this is e.g.
	2023, less the Hindu-Muslim clashes.
	So it's just taking into account some bits like that.
	Hindu Sikhs act as mediators, leveraging economic clout.
	Rural natives isolate, limiting conflict but reinforcing segregation.
	Cooperation, power sharing councils in mixed cities, e.g.
	Birmingham would happen.
	So balance between Muslim, Indian and native interests, preventing dominance by any group.
	This is the best case scenario.
	And this also all I have to say hinges on the idea that enough natives gain some kind of consciousness about their own identity to organize around their own interests without, as is being predicted here, going into the kind of multicultural mindset of an inner city.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, exactly.
	Exactly.
	I mean, yeah, this is the absolute best case scenario.
	And this looking forward to 2030, of course, history won't end there.
	No, no.
	The trajectory will just get worse and worse and worse.
	There's some on here which is a little bit forward thinking past that as well.
	So governance, what would that look like?
	What would the structure of the government look like?
	So the UK would split into effectively five or six micro-states.
	London, Metro, Northern Union, Celtic Pact, right?
	So urban regions adopt inclusive democracies with Muslim and Indian representation, 30% of councils.
	Rural regions elect nationalist leaders.
	Can see that happening.
	Policy, London would legalize Sharia arbitration for civil disputes, while rural areas ban migrant resettlement.
	National identity, fragments with Britishness confined to history.
	So global response, how would the rest of the world align with the best case scenario?
	Well, the EU would support urban microstates, viewing them as trade partners, but condemns rural nationalism.
	I could see that.
	India and Nigeria invest in their sort of diasporas.
	Boosting lenders economy.
	The US offers limited aid, prioritizing NATO stability.
	Pakistan and Turkey lobby for Muslim enclaves, raising tensions.
	Outcome, the UK would lose global influence while India replacing it on the UN Security Council.
	Muslim-majority cities align with Gulf states while rural regions seek Commonwealth ties.
	So that's best case.
	Middle ground.
	Ethnic enclaves and a stalemate would occur.
	So the UK would descend into a protracted civil war driven by economic collapse.
	Native resentment and migrant assertiveness.
	Balkanization would create ethnic and ideological enclaves with Muslim groups controlling urban strongholds and natives dominating rural zones.
	It's just a step up from what we've just covered, basically.
	Stalemates prevent total collapse, but perpetuate low-level conflict, migration, demographic replacement.
	And just some figures, right?
	So Pakistani Bangladeshi Muslims would grow to, say, 12% of the population by 2040, forming majorities in exactly the same areas, like Bradford, 60%, Birmingham, 50%, Somalis controlling smaller enclaves.
	And effectively, it just gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse as we start to look through this.
	I won't cover it all because obviously it's quite exhaustive.
	I suspect that it'll be very difficult for us on the trips we are on today to avoid the balkanization.
	Yeah, and endless sectarian unrest.
	So you can see some of that.
	So that's actually a really great point.
	You can see some of that in the ideological and cultural impact element.
	So Muslim influence, Pakistani Bangladeshi enclaves adopt conservative Islamism.
	We're already seeing that.
	That we already see that.
	With 20% of youth radicalized.
	We already see that.
	Somalis prioritize clan loyalty, clashing with other Muslims.
	Sharia law governs Muslim areas, alienating natives.
	We already see that because they've already created enclaves.
	Hindus and Sikhs align with native moderates.
	We already see some of that as well, actually.
	Right?
	So what you've said, this is the balkanization scenario, the hypothetical.
	Forming anti-Islamist militias in mixed cities, their economic success, 40% in professional roles, fuels resentment from poorer Muslims.
	I could see that as well, Quite frankly, native response: what would we do?
	Well, rural natives form far-right militias, e.g., British Dawn, targeting Muslim enclaves.
	Urban natives would either flee or assimilate into migrant-dominated cities, diluting British identity.
	Cultural shift: well, urban areas become Islamic in character, mosques replace churches, already seeing that, while rural zones preserve Anglo-Saxon traditions, and the UK splits culturally with no unified identity.
	So what would happen economically speaking?
	Impact GDP would fall by 40% and London's financial sector would collapse, hyperinflation, 150%.
	This is the middle ground.
	Destroy savings, fueling black market trade.
	So crime rate, obviously it would just go through the roof.
	But governance, right, what would happen governance-wise?
	Structure.
	UK would fragment into 10 or 12 enclaves.
	Muslim warlords would rule Midland cities with Sharia law.
	Sikh Indian councils would govern London suburbs.
	Native warlords control rural fiefdoms and neo-fascist regimes.
	Scotland and Wales would declare independence, but fracture internally.
	Yeah, you can see all of that.
	Wales and Scotland have got the exact same problems as they would just go, oh, fragment and destruction.
	Their demographics aren't anywhere near as bad as England's are, for the time.
	Not as bad.
	I mean, their populations to begin with are tiny in comparison, but they will still have enclaves, won't they?
	Or still already have, I mean.
	So policy, Muslim enclaves would ban alcohol and enforce dress codes while native zones purge minorities.
	No national governance exists.
	Taxation is extortion-based.
	Global response, well, how would the rest of the world see us on a trajectory which is highly likely right now?
	The EU would quarantine the UK, fearing jihadist spillover.
	We're already seeing that internally in the EU.
	They are already, you know, the Schengen zone's not there.
	They sort of started stopping the Schengen zone.
	So we're already seeing that in the EU.
	So yeah, they would quarantine the UK.
	They'd be like, no, done.
	Turkey and Pakistan would arm Muslim enclaves.
	Why would they not?
	They arm like Iran and stuff like that.
	They arm the rest of the, you know, the sort of, they fuel terrorism in the Arab world, right?
	So why would Turkey and Pakistan not look to do that in the UK if they could?
	While India backs Sikh and Hindu factions, Russia and China would supply weapons to all sides, prolonging chaos.
	And the US evacuates citizens and abandons bases, which, yeah, we'd probably see that as well.
	Outcome, the UK becomes a failed state.
	Already there.
	Yeah.
	Sorry for the black pen.
	I'm so sorry.
	With Gulf states funding Muslim enclaves, global trade would bypass the UK and refugees would overwhelm Commonwealth nations.
	So the British would just leave.
	Well, yeah, in a situation like that, I can see Australia in particular being inundated with Englishmen escaping.
	Well, it's Camp of the Saints territory.
	Yeah.
	Where the number, to the point where newly arrived immigrants have got the power to truly keep the borders entirely open, and then we're completely flooded.
	That's not exactly what happens in Camp of the Saints, but yeah, instead of it being a few hundred thousand a year or a million a year, it's millions and millions and millions every year, year on year.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just spilling over.
	Worst case scenario, I'll spend a little bit more time on this one.
	Right.
	So worst case scenario, Islamic dominance amid anarchy.
	So the UK would collapse into total civil war with Muslim migrants, empowered by high fertility and radicalization, seizing control of major cities.
	Native populations are decimated or displaced.
	And the UK becomes a de facto Islamic state in urban areas.
	Kind of already is.
	With rural zones descending into anarchy, global abandonment would seal its fate as a failed state.
	Migration and demographic replacement.
	So dominant groups, Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims, is always the same.
	It's always the same.
	So that would be 3 million in 2025, surged to 20% by 2040.
	Fueled by unchecked migration, 200,000 annually pre-war and native collapse.
	So Somalis, 300,000, and Syrians, 100,000 form jihadist strongholds.
	Indians and Sikhs flee en masse.
	80% emigrate while Nigerians scatter.
	And the native British drop to 50% by 2040, with 3 million killed or displaced.
	Regional control, well, the Muslims would control London, Birmingham and Manchester, forming 60 to 70% of urban populations.
	Rural areas, e.g.
	say Cumbria and Devon, and native holdouts.
	At least we get the pretty parts.
	I know.
	I know.
	I like Devon.
	I do like Devon.
	Again, the parallels, the west and the southwest, where the original Britons fled to during the Anglo and Saxon invasions.
	Oh, this does into account other historical situations as well.
	And also worldwide.
	So I took into account Balkan and also Lebanon as well.
	Sorry.
	I was just saying, geography as well.
	Cumbria being where the lake district is.
	It's easier to hold out, I suppose.
	Yeah, so they would become holdouts, but they would be depopulated.
	So 80% white.
	Ethnic cleansing would kill 1 million non-Muslims.
	So the outcome, obviously urban UK becomes majority Muslim by 2050, resembling a fragmented caliphate.
	Natives are marginalised, surviving in rural wastelands or as refugees.
	So what would the ideological and cultural impact be?
	Well, Muslim influence radicalized Pakistani and Bangladeshi youth, 30% jihadist affiliated, impose strict Sharia with public executions and gender apartheid.
	Somali warlords would enforce clan-based theocracy, clashing with South Asians, and Salafist ideologies dominate, funded by Saudi and Qatar proxies.
	So other groups, Indian and Sikh remnants, because bearing in mind most of them are left in this scenario, would form guerrilla resistance but collapse under Muslim assaults and native militias adopt genocidal nationalism.
	Massive, massacring minority.
	I'm not advocating for this.
	This is just the worst case scenario.
	I just love how extreme this is.
	This is the absolute worst.
	I don't think it could necessarily get this bad if only because, even within countries that are already Islamic, they can't govern themselves to begin with.
	And even within Islamic countries, like really strict Sharia is difficult for them to enforce in the first place.
	So cultural shift, urban UK becomes an Islamic state with churches raised.
	We're already seeing that.
	And English replaced by Urdu, Arabic, and public life.
	We're already seeing that, actually.
	There are signs in Urdu.
	So we are already seeing these things.
	Rural areas cling to pagan Christian remnants, but lack cohesion.
	Could see that.
	So what would be the economic output?
	Well, the sum of it is that GDP would fall by 90% with no formal economy infrastructure, e.g.
	the NHS and railways and the RNLI, would collapse and starvation would spread.
	Crime rates, crime merges with warfare.
	Warfare.
	No law exists.
	Warlords enslave survivors.
	And obviously, you know, sexual assaults and child soldier recruitment are rampant.
	You see this in the Arabic world anyway.
	Group interactions, where Muslims would wage jihad against natives, cleansing non-Muslims from cities.
	Somali-Pakistani rivalries spark intra-Muslim wars, weakening their grip.
	Native militias collapse after urban defeats, resorting to potential terrorism.
	Indians and Sikhs are eradicated or flee.
	So the alliances, where Muslims would ally with foreign jihadists, so ISIS remnants, while natives gain no external support, all alliances dissolve into betrayal.
	Governance, what would it look like?
	Well, urban UK forms loose Islamic Confederacy under rival warlords with Sharia as law.
	Rural areas are ungoverned wastelands ruled by survivalist gangs.
	Scotland and Wales collapse into complete and utter tribalism.
	I'm hearing Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome type society.
	Yeah, it does literally say that rural zones descend into Mad Max style anarchy.
	Global response.
	Well, the EU bombs jihadist strongholds, fearing a caliphate, but avoids boots on the ground.
	Gulf states fund Muslim warlords while Russia and China loot UK assets.
	And the US declares the UK a terrorist state and blockades it.
	Starting to sound like 28 days later.
	Commonwealth nations collapse under 5 million refugees.
	And the outcome, the UK is a global pariah with urban areas a jihadist haven and rural zones a wasteland.
	No nation intervenes, fearing escalation.
	So I initially wanted to do a segment on health and fitness being a means to bettering oneself in this current climate, but I was slightly put off by someone.
	This is what you got.
	Black pill.
	Well, two things I'll say.
	Oh, thanks.
	I'm so glad I'm back after my week off.
	Cheers.
	Two things I want to add is that one, even that worst case scenario isn't that insane.
	If you look at what happened to Yugoslavia, just as one example.
	But the other thing to say is we can avoid still, at least the worst case scenarios, if we get a government that is pro-mass remigration.
	Remigration will save us from the worst excesses of what you've described.
	I don't think it has the spine to do it in the first place.
	Because fear not, friends, even if it were to get to this, the English would not die.
	The English would re-emerge upon the global stage like a phoenix from the ashes.
	There are plenty of historical precedents for populations that have existed in territories for even hundreds of years being expelled en masse, even within a lifetime for someone who could still be alive today.
	You mentioned Yugoslavia.
	You think of the Germans being expelled from Prussia following the Second World War.
	England in its history has expelled mass populations that had been here for a long time.
	Spain was able to do it.
	So even in the worst case scenario, we're not gone.
	So long as the last Englishman breathes breathless.
	No, we're not gone.
	It's never over.
	The whole point of the segment was a thought experiment using just raw data.
	What are the fertility rates?
	What are the ideological leanings of the individuals with high fertility rates?
	What's the historical reflections of these individuals and what happens when they gain control and what occurs?
	And it's important to do this, even though it is a black pill, it's really important to do this because anything less than this is pure ignorance.
	It's really important to have a handle on the potential scenarios that could occur so you can sidestep them and completely avoid them.
	Best case, middle case, worst case.
	All of this is entirely avoidable.
	You can stop all of this from happening.
	And that's why anything less than remigration, it just doesn't cut it.
	Well, it's complicity.
	Yeah, well, suicide.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I can't say that word on me.
	You don't want me.
	Oh, we won't put that bit on YouTube.
	There you go.
	Give me the mouse.
	Give everybody who's paid some money to us today their fair chance to be heard.
	Scott Saigai, $10.
	Thank you very much.
	If the UK government collapsed into a failed state, there's parts of Glasgow that genuinely would not notice.
	You know, and good on them.
	That's a random name.
	Ah yes, another segment of Harry staring into the void.
	Fed posting in his mind.
	Worry not, I agree with everything you're thinking of.
	And in fact, I think you're not extreme enough.
	Do better, Chud.
	Thank you for the encouragement.
	I will.
	That's a random name is sent to others as well.
	Do not despair, friends.
	Things always seem the worst before they improve.
	The current hardships will serve to harden us and lead us to a new golden age.
	Never stand in the presence of evil.
	And my Bulgarian ancestors were enslaved brutally by the Ottomans.
	Look up the Genissaries.
	Oh, okay.
	They survived this.
	You guys will survive and come out stronger from it.
	Reform the Empire Can't UK.
	With a little emojis going on.
	Alright, time for the video comments.
	Samson, get the video comments up quick.
	Let's not have dead air.
	Let's go.
	We're going down to see the local swimming hole.
	This is wonderful.
	The blue lagoon of Daravi.
	You can see the garbage slopes of the blue lagoon.
	I think someone in the distance there is taking a poopy.
	And bask in its glory.
	That's disgusting.
	It's not funny, really, is it?
	That's disgusting.
	It is kind of funny, though.
	We've done a massive trade deal with them as well.
	Is there a...
	Because I don't know if we're just getting selection bias of the clips that come out on social media and that gets shared everywhere.
	Is there a clean river in India?
	Or is it all like this?
	Because there is that game that you can play on Google Maps where you drop the little guy down into street view at random and you win if the entire street isn't completely filled with rubbish.
	It seems like a very difficult game to win.
	So, you know, enlighten me.
	Where's the nice bits of India where it's genuinely beautiful and clean?
	It really is a striking pattern to notice once you've noticed it.
	A striking pattern.
	Not allowed to notice.
	In the third world, all over the place, not just India, but all over the place.
	The inability to maintain hygiene.
	Yeah.
	Be clean.
	Yeah.
	Like, what is that?
	Why that?
	of all things, of all traits, of all patterns, why that?
	Why is it like...
	Oh, God.
	I'm not...
	Yeah, they're really resentful that we clean things up and have everything squared away.
	I've said this before, like when you go on holiday to the third world or even just somewhere like Spain or Italy, you go there and their telephone lines and power cables are like a clown show.
	Everything isn't nice and squared away, done properly, the right tool for the right job.
	And you go to America or Australia, it's like Britain or Germany where everything is done correctly and cleaned up and squared away.
	It's a striking thing when you travel around the world.
	You get off a plane and you quite quickly realise, oh, this place is a dump.
	This place is a shithole or something.
	This is why Europe is the best, but in particular, Northwest Europe is the best.
	Perfect.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, Meds.
	I love you.
	You are European, but only just.
	And here we are at the Old English pub.
	Turn it up a bit.
	This is the interior of the book.
	There's my dad and my drawing against.
	Thank you.
	That's a very nice looking pub.
	It's a classic, typical pub, right?
	Yeah.
	In a rural area.
	Oh, it's in America.
	Yeah, it's an American public.
	I bet it's an American English-themed pub.
	They've got it quite, it's very authentic then.
	But I thought that was it.
	That's nicely themed.
	They've done really well with that.
	Good show.
	Good show.
	It's a game.
	It looks like it.
	Looks like it's quite depth.
	Oh, yeah.
	There you go.
	Check out the demo for that, folks.
	Luke's all right.
	From crazy.
	He's found whole new products to sell using his video comments.
	You know, I respect that.
	That's a pussy, right?
	That's why he's like, £30 a month is the cheapest advertising platform I've ever got my hands on.
	I wonder if the point of the game is to destroy the organism.
	You're the virus.
	Or whether you're like the white cell.
	Oh, you're the.
	He said you're a T-cell seat-down path and destroy them.
	He did say that.
	So that's good.
	We're going to take an extra five minutes at least, Samson, all right?
	All right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, good.
	So we'll read out some of the video comments from today's podcast.
	Cumbrian Kulak, shout out to Bo and Mr. H. Give State of Politics a follow.
	Some hilarious comments that you've both made.
	Yes.
	There's Mr. H reviews.
	Check out Mr. H reviews.
	But also The State of Politics, which is me and Nate doing a politics theme channel, which we post most days.
	There's a little video.
	Yeah, people seem to like it.
	We're just trying to get it off the ground.
	So thanks for mentioning that.
	Come on, Kulak.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, check it out.
	Connor Crosby been watching the show for almost a year now.
	Best £5 I ever spent.
	Keep up the good work, lads.
	Thank you very much.
	Biggie Bigfoot, a show about wrestling and metal.
	They go together very well.
	We're eating good today, lads.
	Yeah, I remember back in, well, I don't remember, but I've watched it in the late 90s when all of the theme songs were starting to be done by like, at the time, legitimate heavy metal bands.
	Like Disturbed did a version of Stone Cold Steve Austin's theme that he used to come out to.
	Didn't Lemmy from Motorhead do Triple H?
	Yeah, he did a few themes for Triple H. Undertaker for a while came out to Roland by Olympus.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a glorious and now all of the themes are rubbish.
	They're crap, frankly.
	Do you want to go through your comments?
	if you want, Mr. H reviews The Stolen Car.
	That's the name.
	Back to Haunt You, Dick.
	There's a TV show on Channel 4 all about the RNLI in Dover.
	They very rarely cover rescuing boat migrants, but they do always usually just call them vulnerable people without any question about the RNLI helping them.
	Right.
	Correct 80 says, just saving lives, not little girls' lives, obviously.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, that's the thing I tweeted at them.
	It's like, well, it's all very well to say you're just saving lives, but what about the people that you're not just saving their lives, you're actually ferrying them across to some sort of taxi service who go on to commit unbelievably sickening crimes?
	What about that?
	Yeah.
	They won't address that.
	They won't address that.
	I suspect they'll just stonewall my tweet.
	Daniel Butcher said, we once blockaded most of Europe for a decade or so.
	How have we got to the point where we can't even protect our own shoreline with robots from robots?
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	It's very deliberate.
	The Royal Navy could do that in one day if it wanted to, but they're choosing not to.
	Whether you want to or not.
	Okay, one more.
	Man of Kent says, could a future government go after the charities and NGOs and change them from the accessory to aiding or participation in human trafficking?
	Again, they could do that if they wanted to.
	A government that had balls and the will to do something like that could.
	You could just make it a law, don't help people.
	Charities like to skirt the line all the time.
	Like the way that if you read that excellent article, I forget the publication it was in, but the enormous Hope Not Hate article expose.
	Hope not hate like to shroud everything that they do by being a journalistic wing and a charity wing and separate themselves into loads of different entities so that in terms of the charity, they can have all the money funnel into that and then they disperse the funds throughout the rest of the larger organization without having to hold the charity to the same kind of regulation that the journalistic wing of it would do.
	Because a charity is not allowed to have a political bent to it one way or the other, but that's why it's separate from the journal.
	So there's loads of ways that people try and take advantage of the systems that we have in the UK that a government that actually cared enough to do so would be able to investigate and say, well, clearly you're breaking the rules.
	You are committing fraud of some kind.
	But they just don't.
	They just don't, because hope, not hate, and other organizations like that belong to the government anyway.
	Mr. H Review's stolen car is feeling very chatty today.
	Says Aussie Osborne finished the farewell tour and was like, I bloody mean it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	He's like, oh, Harry, you think I'm going to come back for a few more?
	Like old Mick and Keith?
	Nope.
	And then he just died.
	Electric Boogaloo, Aussie seems to have gone out the same way as Bowie, who died two days after his final album released.
	Yes.
	Love David Bowie, by the way.
	True musical icon with so many good albums under his belt.
	They didn't draw any attention to their illness, just kept making music and then passed on when they had given it all they could.
	That is the destiny of a true artist.
	I still tear up watching the final moments of Lazarus where Bowie retreats into the wardrobe and closes the door on himself.
	His death honestly hit me harder than the passing of the queen.
	We don't get icons like this anymore.
	They're all managed imitations who have to play it safe.
	Everything's plastic.
	Yeah, I can agree with that.
	It was only after Bowie died that I really started to look through his back catalogue and there's just so many classics back there that it kind of retroactively become emotional to me.
	Lord Nerevar, I work in central Birmingham, as I've mentioned before, and even in its current multi-culti disaster zone state, the death of Aussie was devastating.
	You can feel the grief in the air the day we got the news.
	We truly lost a real one.
	And I'll try and read one or two more.
	Here we go.
	Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex, and I love this one.
	If you saw me smirking earlier, it's because I accidentally clocked this.
	Hulk Hogan's best quote.
	Hulk Hogan has a 10-inch penis.
	Terry Balea does not.
	No, I do not have a 10-inch penis.
	It's quite funny.
	I bet he said that in court.
	I bet he was questioned directly on how big his penis was, and he had to give that answer.
	I always think it's funny when people, nearly always, when they refer to themselves in the third person as some sort of joke.
	Yeah.
	Like Nixon would sometimes talk about Nixon.
	Anyway.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to read some of yours?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Go on then.
	So Michael Dre Dre Belbus.
	Do you think Belbis, I think his name is.
	When are you going to bite the bullet and join the Lotus Eaters as a full-time contributor, not just a guest?
	There is no space to be a full-time contributor.
	However, it's looking like I will be on for a monthly segment as a regular monthly contributor.
	So not full-time, but full-time monthly.
	At least.
	At least.
	At least, yeah, and coverage stuff like that.
	So you will see me around here a little bit more for sure.
	So hopefully you like that, I guess.
	Eventually, the irony will be there'll be a full week of just Nate and Josh because nobody else will be in this week.
	One day.
	What have we got here?
	I'll please you.
	Mr. H reviews stolen car.
	Says, as soon as conflict begins in Britain, hypothetically, the reduction of food imports would begin famine within a week.
	Our population is too high and our ability to feed it too low.
	We simply cannot sustain such a high number of people.
	Yeah, agree.
	Agree.
	Do I know where all of my local farm shops are?
	Yeah.
	Annie Moss says, I disagree with Mr. H on the composition of the UK.
	The only reason the UK was invaded was for cash.
	If there is no cash, many would self-deport as they have no reason to be in the UK.
	And let's face it, many don't like it because they like their origins so much.
	So I agree that's definitely a worthwhile thing.
	This was just the worst case scenario if we were to enter a civil war-like state.
	So yeah, I mean, I agree.
	Cash incentives are a huge proponent of people coming here.
	I don't dispute that.
	Absolutely not.
	Although I do think it's wishful thinking that people would just exit once it rise up because they would be more opportunistic in other ways.
	I also think that even in a degraded state, that the kind of stability that the UK would offer, as well as opportunity, like you're saying, would still be preferable to many of them than going back to where they came from.
	Because a lot of the time, the class that we get coming here are oftentimes even from these more unstable third world states.
	We're getting the criminal scum of those countries in the first place.
	Their countries don't want them either.
	Think of all of the people that we've been told.
	The ECHR says we can't send them back because their home country will execute them for crimes they've committed here.
	Those are the kinds of people that we're taking in.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Last one, Naomi Roberts says, visited some of the historic villages around Birmingham last week.
	My heart goes out to the English people.
	They're a minority living amongst invaders with symbols of oppression everywhere.
	I can't even bring myself to make fun of my English husband anymore.
	As a Northern Irish woman, things are bad.
	Don't give up making fun of your husband.
	Yeah, he's got to show he can take it, right?
	If we're expecting to take the country back at some point, then he's going to have to show he can at least take a few jabs here and there.
	He's got to test his metal.
	Anyway, on that note, thank you all very, very much for watching.
	Don't forget about Common Sense Crusade tomorrow.
	Check out my gig if you can get tickets for the Times straight up stand in strength, August 30th, which is a Saturday in London.
	Check out tickets online.
	Code Lotus Pass for £5 off.
	And check out your show.
	Oh, yeah, State of Politics.
	Really good channel.
	It's like 2,500 subscribers.
	Check it out.
	It's good fun.
	It's good fun.
	It's pretty unbridled.
	So yeah, have a good time there for sure.
	And while we're doing this, and History Bro, my own channel.
	If you just want.
	What?
	No, check out History Bro.
	If you want straight up history-themed content with me, your History Bro, then there's also that.
	Check that out, History Bro.
	Yeah, I think we've got all the plugs in.
	Are we done with the shilling, boys?
	All right.
	Do it.

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