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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1213 for Tuesday the 22nd of July 2025.
	I'm your host Luca, joined today by Dan and Bo.
	Sorry to interrupt your flow, but the reason we're laughing is because Chat was talking about in Carl's latest video, a parrot randomly lands on his shoulder.
	We didn't believe it.
	I just looked it up and yes, he just has a parrot randomly land on his shoulder.
	Yes.
	So we're still coming to terms with this revelation.
	He hasn't mentioned ever in the office that he owns a parrot.
	So this is literally new to us right now.
	Okay.
	So we'll be asking Kyle about the parrot later.
	But for now, what we're going to be talking about is the completely sincere attempts to smash the gangs.
	We're then going to be talking about how the British police are irredeemably racist, according to themselves.
	Yes.
	And then we're going to be talking about the Democratic nominee for the new Minneapolis mayor, which should be quite the spectacle.
	Let's put it that way.
	All right, over to you, Beau.
	All right, so the government, our government, His Majesty's government, has decided that the way to smash the gangs, which Sir Queer Starmer has promised he shall do.
	What?
	Did I say so?
	What's funny?
	Nothing.
	The man just has the occasional need for a male model.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	My mommy to Ukraine.
	Yes.
	He's going to smash the gangs, which he's promised to do.
	And they're saying they're going to release the names of certain individuals and even organisations that have been doing it.
	So I thought we'd read a bit from this BBC.
	Well, I can tell you the organisation behind it.
	It's the Home Office.
	Right.
	Yes.
	And I did hope you were going to say they're going to release the Kraken.
	That's what we need.
	We need some sort of seaborne Leviathan just roaming the English Channel.
	Some nativist British patriot nationalist kraken in the channel.
	I'm here for that.
	We released a Moby Dick or something.
	Yes.
	Okay, so, yeah, it is the Home Office, isn't it?
	Well, it is the government.
	If they wanted to take it out of the purview of the Home Office and make it a defence issue, they could do.
	Well, as we said, ironically earlier, the completely sincere attempt to actually tackle this thing.
	Of course, it's completely insincere.
	Of course, it's a tiny bit of red meat so that they can just keep flooding us, obviously.
	And once again, I have to say, whenever we talk about illegal immigration or the small boat issue, we know that legal immigration is the real biggie.
	But nonetheless, again, it's in the new cycle.
	And it is kind of interesting to sort of see this play out.
	Last time I talked about the small boats thing, a week or two ago, whenever it was, I said they will never stop.
	They will never stop.
	And I completely believe that.
	Until they're removed from power and a new government, which actually has got political will to do anything about this, it will never stop.
	They'll just keep making up more and more things, more and more sleight of hand.
	They always need something that they can point to and say, oh, we're doing something.
	Look, we put out an announcement where we said we're going to smash the gangs or whatever it is.
	And then that will hold them for like 18 months to a year.
	And then they come out with a new initiative and then the cycle repeats.
	And it's been that way for the last 10 years.
	Well, they've been in government now for like a year.
	Wasn't it one of their big pledges?
	You've had a year.
	You've had a year.
	You've done sod all.
	Yeah.
	I doubt that these lists will have any real force behind them.
	You know, by comparison to, say, Sola's lists.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Not quite the prescription lists of Sulla.
	Well, just, I was going to say this later, but they came into government on the promise that they would smash the smuggling, as Rishi did.
	Rishi's whole tagline.
	Wasn't it?
	Yeah, did nothing about it.
	In fact.
	By betrayal.
	In fact, well, so we're set to have an all-time record higher.
	And the thing is, it could be stopped really easily if they wanted to.
	There's a number of things to do.
	Anyway, BBC tells us gang leaders, corrupt officials and police officers, fake passport dealers and firms supplying small boats could be publicly named in UK sanctions targeting people smuggling.
	So right away, you think, well, okay, it's better than nothing, I suppose, but how's that really going to tackle it?
	Because they'll swap those out for new people then.
	While there's always incentives for the people to come here in the first place, they'll find a way, I would have thought.
	So it's one thing, I've got a lot of ire for the French.
	Why aren't the French doing more?
	Why are they facilitating our invasion?
	But the counterpoint to that is a fair one, is that we're incentivising these people to come across.
	So although it is frustrating and annoying the French are so weak on this, or in fact actively helping them in all sorts of ways, that isn't actually at the core of it.
	That isn't actually at the core of it.
	To be fair, if all of these people who are currently in our country were desperate to go to France, I would help them.
	Oh, right.
	Well, yeah.
	So I can't really blame them, but I mean, we can stop this ourselves anytime we want.
	Anytime.
	There were loads of camps all across the south of England desperately trying to get Picardy.
	Yeah, I would sort of...
	Yeah, get at least 30 of you on that.
	Off you go.
	Okay, so this BBC article goes on.
	The first measures are due to be unveiled on Wednesday and are seen as essential to government plans to tackle criminal networks behind the crossings.
	Individuals and companies are expected to be hit with asset freezes, travel bans and restriction from engaging with the UK financial system under these sanctions.
	Again, even if they did this sort of fairly hardcore, it would still be weak source, wouldn't it?
	You're not addressing the key thing, i.e.
	our welfare system, not addressing any of that, not actually physically doing anything to stop them.
	So the RNLI will keep ferrying them across the channel essentially, or border force.
	No massive detention centre in Calais.
	Or actually, at Calais, in Dover.
	There actually is a detention centre there, but you're not detained and then immediately deported.
	You're just released or taken to a hotel, wherever.
	So all the hard actions that could be taken, none of that.
	We'll just freeze the assets of some people we tell you we think are the problem.
	Okay, it's understood that the first tranche would include the names of around two dozen people accused of facilitating the trade.
	Oh, great, two dozen, or facilitating the trade or profiting from it.
	But the Migration Advisory Committee said the impact could be limited.
	Its deputy chair, Dr. Madeleine Sumption, said she wouldn't be surprised if the sanctions were a game changer for the industry as a whole.
	Sounds like advertising.
	It's a bit optimistic.
	Yeah, it does.
	It's a bit like we're going to put out the names of the people who will get you over into England.
	You know, they should immediately start a website in Algerian or something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Why are they publishing the names?
	Why aren't they sending in the SAS to take them out?
	Oh, well, talking about that, I did a tweet just the other day where I said, so I'd use 4-2 Commando and added 4-2 Commando in it, to secure the given French beaches in question, lest any gendarmerie fancy themselves heroes.
	Then I'd use elements of 4-5 Commando and 4-7 Commando.
	These are like specialist Royal Marines that are trained to do exactly this sort of thing, to approach and detain any and all small boats while they are still at sea, have them brought back to the French shore where they would be unceremoniously dumped.
	I mean, with extreme prejudice, if necessary.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And this is the thing.
	If you were Prime Minister tomorrow, you could basically just say, like, the orders are do that.
	Do that.
	I'd get the cabinet round and I'd say, Home Secretary, don't worry about it anymore.
	Don't worry about this.
	Defense Secretary, the ball's in your court now.
	Go.
	Yeah, get me the head of the Marines, whoever that is.
	Get me the head of the RNLI on the South Coast first.
	Stop doing anything.
	Yes.
	And then we're going to send in.
	Yeah.
	42, 45, and 46.
	Yeah, but this is the point.
	It could be stopped at any time.
	And you do it all before the human rights laws even have time to react to it.
	You can declare an emergency.
	Like the government, a cabinet, can declare an emergency.
	You can just say, this is an emergency.
	So we don't care what the Supreme Court says.
	It's an emergency.
	In fact, we'll pass legislation to end the Supreme Court if needs be.
	Yeah, I mean, government does that sort of stuff all the time when it needs to.
	I mean, COVID was a great example of this.
	The amount of stuff they did, it was just blatantly outside the legal basis.
	They were just doing it.
	When you look back at how governments behaved in the 19th century or even in the first half of the 20th century, they used to make big moves, what we would consider a really big move.
	It was sort of nothing.
	It was sort of, yeah, we'll make this industry nationalise this industry or privatise this industry or we'll send gunboats over there or we'll do this or that.
	Like, today would be considered like a, whoa, it's a really big move.
	It's like a crazy thing.
	But they would just do it all the time because they had political will and some bulls.
	Unlike someone like Rishi or Starma, it's like picking around the edges.
	Like, well, very deliberately not doing anything, actually, isn't it?
	I said the Marines can, the Marines will be deployed as long as it takes to clear the channel and keep it clear.
	It would only take a few days of it before the word got across that the Royal Navy and the Marines are not letting any dinghies across.
	It would only take a few days or a few weeks maybe for that message to get across.
	And I think that would tackle it.
	Also, unlike the sort of traitorous police force, I imagine that the Army would be well up for it if you gave them the opportunity.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	I imagine the Special Boat Service or 4-7 Commando would be loving it.
	In fact, someone else said on Twitter, I think it sounds like they used to be a Marine, they said, you can guarantee there are plans like this already drawn up.
	Guarantee it.
	They're just not, the government just won't use them.
	But yeah, well, he's probably right.
	I would have thought he's right.
	Oh, no, no doubt.
	I mean, they've got loads of young staff officers who they need to give assignments to.
	So they will give them things like draw up an invasion plan of Canada.
	I mean, just all sorts of stuff.
	It's just like, yeah, just draw up a plan.
	Partly because we want to see that you can draw up a plan.
	And secondly, because we just want a stock of plans.
	So there would be a plan to do everything.
	A contingency for loads and loads of different scenarios.
	Definitely for this, there will be.
	It's just the political overlords, number 10, weaklings.
	It's not just being weak, is it?
	It's not like it's forgetting to do that today.
	It's not like I haven't got, like, it's not like Stalma hasn't got the balls to do something like that if he wanted to.
	He's deliberately not doing it.
	It's very, very deliberately, actively doing it.
	Well, there's that as well.
	But no, when it comes to like sorting out his own party or something, he'll make a move, won't he?
	If it's like deselecting a bunch of MPs or something, that's kind of a political metal on that.
	He can do that.
	He can change our entire franchise.
	That's massive.
	He'll do that.
	He's got balls to do that.
	But not actually protect us.
	Okay.
	Again, the deputy chair of the, what is it, Migration Advisory Committee, for what that's worth, says, there are so many people involved in the industry that targeting people individually is probably going to have an impact around the margins.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, probably.
	Yeah.
	And here's the other thing.
	If they're all...
	Like, a lot of these people smugglers are in France, right?
	They themselves are...
	We need the French.
	It's not like the Met police that will go over and arrest them.
	It would have to be the French police.
	So there's no talk of any of that.
	People know who they are anyway.
	Yeah.
	Because they're not like, yeah, someone like Patrick Christie's can go over there and walk straight up to them and try and interview them and stuff.
	It's out in the open.
	Pretty out in the open.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, this is just meant to be a smokescreen.
	They save.
	It's a little bit of red meat, isn't it?
	You know, if challenged on, I don't know, bloody news night or something, Starmer can just say, oh, yeah, well, we recently announced a plan where we're going to name the top people smugglers and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	It's going to shut up about it for another six months.
	And then we give you a new initiative.
	You know, always thus.
	Well, this same woman says, the impact is dependent to an extent, to a massive extent, on the cooperation of other countries where smugglers are operating.
	France.
	It only works if the French do what we say or ask, which they're not doing for years now, haven't we?
	We've paid them loads of money to do a number of different things.
	They don't really do it.
	Well, they take the money.
	They take money.
	And every now and again, there's like a clip or two, isn't there, of a French policeman punching a dinghy just before it leaves the French beach.
	But beyond that, beyond that.
	No puncher.
	Or the giant camps that exist in the Pas de Calais that they allow to exist for some reason.
	Every now and again, they'll go in there and half-heartedly break it up a bit, but not really tackling it, not properly.
	They don't want to, again, from their point of view, it's like, oh, a few less monsters on French beaches, on French beaches.
	Well, that's why I can't blame the French.
	The Brits can have them.
	Well, even if you were to just relocate them from the north of France to the south of France, go, there's a water you can cross.
	It's called the Mediterranean.
	It will lead you back to Africa.
	The BBC mentions that Sequere has promised, pledged to smash the people smuggling gangs.
	They're not doing it.
	They're not going to do it.
	David Lammy, genius David Lammy, said that this initiative is the first of its kind anywhere on the planet.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah.
	Like, we're doing a good thing.
	It's a great, unprecedented thing.
	It's nonsense, isn't it?
	I think my first segment ever on joining the Lotus Eaters was about this issue.
	And it was Rishi Sunak then, and it was on his set of initiatives that we're going to do this.
	Just remember that.
	Yeah, my first ever episode.
	Episode like 500 something.
	And we're now on, whatever we are, 12,000 or something.
	You know, this just carries on and on and on.
	Yeah, Ms. Balls said that it's a decisive step in our fight against the criminal gangs who profit from human misery.
	Yeah, there is a big element of human misery.
	And yeah, they're not doing anything about it.
	In fact, piling more misery on us, if anything.
	Yeah, but you know when she says human misery, she's talking about the misery of the poor refugees who are coming across the channel.
	She's not talking about the misery that the people of Epping are currently in right now or any other native Brits in the country.
	How is it misery?
	Or the victims of any of their crises.
	Yeah, you come here, you get a hotel and you get pocket money.
	And you don't have to do anything and you just, if you want extra cash, you can get a delivery job.
	And how is that misery?
	That's not misery.
	I think she's talking about like the poor plight of an average Eritrean who somehow finds himself in the Pas de Calais and the plight of his life.
	Yeah.
	And how he's been exploited by a smuggler.
	That misery.
	Anyway.
	She says, it will allow us to target the assets and operations of people smugglers wherever they operate, cutting off their funding and dismantling their networks piece by piece.
	Sounds alright, doesn't it?
	Sounds like someone like Paul Wolfritz or Donald Rumsfeld saying, we will dismantle Al-Qaeda wherever they are in the world, piece by piece.
	We'll take them apart and we'll take them on and take them down.
	Well, but it's Yvette Cooper.
	A half-hearted thing that no one believes, really.
	The Shadow Home Secretary, Chris Phillips, said, the truth is you don't stop the channel crossings by freezing a few bank accounts in Baghdad or slapping a travel ban on a dinghy dealer in Damascus.
	Again, are the dinghy dealers in Damascus or are they in France?
	That's another thing.
	When we get people, let's go to sort of Patrick Christie's things.
	Patrick Christie's done great stuff on this stuff for GB News.
	He has.
	There'll be like, it's not just him as well, lots of other journalists have gone over there, and there'll be like warehouses full of dinghies and inflatable boats.
	Like, yeah, it's quite an operation.
	It's quite a big thing.
	There will be a lot of people involved in it.
	I mean, here, this is...
	It's...
	And it's just sort of up there, completely in the open.
	No, no, my question is, does that, I mean, that's quite solidly done, that bit of workmanship.
	I don't think an Evertrain did that.
	Oh, I think a Frenchman did that.
	I think a Frenchman did that.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we'll talk about that.
	There's one clip where...
	Alright, well, here we go again.
	So, we've just come from that camp over there.
	We've walked down here, and you'll be able to see that just immediately after the tree line is another encampment in here.
	Actually, it goes on for quite a while, but you can just see that there's a massive, it's actually, that place is a real mess, just on the other side of the channel.
	It's a real mess.
	How the French can sort of stand it, I don't know.
	But yeah, and they're all around, and they get aggro with him.
	You're going to cross off the channel?
	They start throwing bottles at him and stuff.
	He sort of has to run away.
	You're from Kurdistan.
	Can I ask, are you worried about crossing the channel?
	Are you worried?
	All right, well, I obviously don't particularly want to talk.
	All right.
	So, they make a bit of noise.
	Alright, we're going to have to get out of here.
	We just had glass bottles thrown at us.
	So, they're great people.
	Engineers, doctors.
	Yeah, there's good people.
	They're sending audition.
	They're sending their best.
	Well, anyway, if you want to go and check out GB News' Twitter feed and the stuff that Patrick Christian's done, it's all there on Twitter.
	But yeah, you actually, in fact, in this clip.
	We are back in the warehouse near the laurel.
	These people in the background are French people that he goes up to.
	They're like some version of Care for Calais, but French.
	And they just start packing up and moving on the second they realise he's a dude with a mic.
	And he's just asking questions like, What are you doing?
	Why are you, like, what's going on?
	Like, why are you helping?
	And they're just completely evasive and a bit aggro with him and pretend they don't understand English, even though they did one second before and all that stuff.
	When the French misbehaving abroad, they do, well, I suppose, well, by definition, France is abroad, but whenever they start misbehaving, they always pretend they can't speak English.
	Like that guy saying, saying in more or less perfect English and completely understands Patrick, saying, I don't understand.
	And they say, you need to speak French.
	You're in France.
	Speak to me in French then.
	But like, what's that got to do with anything?
	Look, they just pack up their little thing, just sort of bugger off.
	Yeah.
	So it's all there, right out in the open.
	What was the last link I had?
	I mean, this is.
	Oh, yeah, this guy.
	So he walks up to this guy who's an actual people smuggler.
	Again, we don't necessarily need to actually hear.
	He's just trying to ask him a question.
	And he's having none of it.
	So it's all right there.
	It's all right out in the open.
	If the French would do something about it, because we can't, right?
	Or if we did really want to deal with it, maybe have some sort of deal where the French would allow a bunch of British cops to police that region of Calais.
	But again, that's not happening.
	I think this is perfectly legitimate grounds for occupying Calais.
	Right.
	But seriously, if they're going to keep doing this, I mean, it is an invasion.
	We have every right to occupy Calais.
	We've invaded Normandy a number of times.
	Done it before.
	Yes.
	Of course, hopefully, France and Britain are both nuclear-armed nations, so hopefully it wouldn't end in a nuclear exchange.
	Yeah, but if you nuclear exchange.
	If you said to them, because probably what the background conversation at the moment is, is we're going to make some initiative.
	Could you play along with it?
	And they're like, yeah, we can do that.
	Whereas if you were like, if they knew you were serious, no, we actually are going to occupy Calais, then they'd probably sort it out themselves.
	I'll just say, we're going to use the Royal Marines to turn any dinghies around.
	We hope it doesn't come to a full-scale war with you.
	Yes.
	But we are going to dump them back on your beaches.
	That's happening.
	Don't make us deploy our aircraft carriers.
	Don't make us have dogfight, our fast jets versus your fast jets.
	Our aircraft carriers are not...
	Don't make us do that, but...
	So you're probably better off just launching them from airfields on the south coast, to be frank.
	Alright, yeah.
	That'll be much better, yeah.
	Don't make us reactivate all the airfields in the southeast, like World War II.
	Not after 210 years since our last war with you, France.
	Don't make us do it.
	Yeah, remember what happened last time?
	It didn't go well for you guys.
	Although there is an argument that I was kind of arguing with someone on Twitter about it earlier, about that the French forces would be a handful for us.
	Well, maybe, maybe not.
	Depends how it goes.
	Yeah, but you don't sacrifice your country on the basis that fighting back would be a bit hard, do you?
	Right, exactly.
	Exactly, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And plus, I really doubt if we sent like one of our cruisers into the channel and it's sort of permanently there, and it sort of more or less permanently had Royal Marine Commandos on it or the Special Boat Service or something, and I doubt the French would like nuke Coventry or London off the back of that.
	We'd say, look, we're doing this.
	Take it or leave it.
	I doubt Macron would actually mobilise all the French armies.
	The only stop that I'm going to do is what I would say is that, you know, let's say you became Prime Minister tomorrow.
	Successive governments have made sure that we are dependent on the French.
	So, for example, we cannot provide enough power for ourselves without the French nuclear connection.
	We've got like undersea cables supplying electricity.
	They're trying to do the same thing with farming as well.
	Make sure that we are dependent on somewhere like France always.
	Otherwise, we can't feed ourselves or turn the lights on.
	And they own big chunks of our industries and things, don't they?
	Like, aren't a lot of our railway companies in part owned by French companies?
	All sorts of things, yeah, all sorts of things.
	But when it comes to a war, if this is a war, it's an invasion, you'll work around it.
	You'll make do.
	You'll make other plans.
	Like when Germany decided or got the memo that Russia's the baddie a few years ago, and like, what was it, a massive chunk of Germany's energy came from Russia or gas came from Russia.
	And they're like, within one year, they just flipped it and got it from other places.
	Yeah, they torpedoed their own chemicals and steel industry.
	Yeah.
	Because there was something they wanted to get done.
	Right.
	So you make it happen.
	I mean, I was listening to a very, very interesting audiobook just the other day about World War I. Well, when World War I kicked off, we're actually really interdependent with the Germans in all sorts of ways.
	Okay.
	And, well, within a few days to begin with, and then a few months, we just figured ways around it.
	And yeah, it hurt a bit economically and stuff and in terms of industry.
	It damaged us, it hurt a bit, but they made it happen because they had this much, much bigger political project.
	So, yeah, I'm not worried about Macron.
	What?
	What?
	He's going to send French Marines to kill our Marines if we did something like that.
	I'd sign up without starting out.
	I'd doubt it.
	Oh, I can at least block up the Eurostar tunnel.
	Yeah.
	Oh, well, that'd be very terrible.
	All right, so that's my time done.
	Oh, well, one other thing to say is that Patrick Christie's, anyway, makes a good point that it's not just the small boats, it's also still the classic smuggling yourself in a lorry.
	And then the lorry goes through the Europon on a ferry.
	Yeah, that's actually still a massive, massive part of it all.
	But they sort of don't forget about it.
	It's a small boat issue.
	So anyway.
	All right.
	We'll leave it there.
	I've used up my time.
	All right.
	For $5, Opunk says, can't we just take, well, the nuclear option against France?
	No, we cannot do that, Opunk.
	The habification says, it's not to say we don't have the balls.
	I just hear he may have a preference for East.
	Very, very witty.
	And Scott Saigai says, I seem to remember one of the funders of the NGOs facilitating the crossings of migrants across the Med was the German government.
	So if you want to smash the gangs, maybe tell them to stop that.
	I mean, there's just so many countries in Europe, aren't there, who allow...
	It's not just France, it's also Italy, of course, as well.
	I don't know if Greece is the one that seems to be taking...
	I mean, there's organisations and gangs, cartels, that get people across the Rio Grande, right?
	That get people...
	Saudi Arabia manages to police their borders.
	I mean, they use barbed wire and machine guns.
	Right.
	They'll literally just strafe the area with machine gun fire.
	Yes.
	Works, though.
	It works.
	Yeah.
	Probably wouldn't get it past the human rights lawyers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Strasbourg human rights lawyer Saudi Arabia has, to be honest with you.
	I don't know, I've never thought to check, actually.
	No, maybe I will.
	I'm not tempted to do so now.
	They don't have to answer to Strasbourg for that.
	No, so.
	No, they don't.
	So the British police are racist, according to the British police.
	This is a report that Carl found, and I thought, yeah, I'll have a look at that.
	So it is the College of Policing Police Race Action Plan, improving policing for black people.
	Just black people.
	Yeah, just them.
	Yeah, just them.
	Okay.
	That's the race that needs an action plan, apparently.
	Apparently so, yes.
	You can tell this is interesting.
	Let's get past the contents.
	Right.
	So two deeply concerned liberal lefty senior officers there.
	One of them's got his ears in widescreen mode but otherwise looks like that bird from the Muppets, you know, the General Hawk or something.
	The blue eagle thing.
	Yes.
	Let's just go for the first but literally it starts with George Floyd.
	That's where human civilization begun really.
	It is the founding story of our peoples.
	Overdose victim George Floyd.
	Yes, it's like the police replaced the crucifixion as like the pivotal myth that we all base our societies on.
	They say in the summer of 2020, nations across the globe were rocked by the outpouring of emotion following the murder of George Floyd.
	One, we weren't rocked.
	Two, it wasn't a murder.
	Carry on.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, quite.
	But okay, aside from that.
	If you say so.
	So in the trial of Derek Jovin, even the prosecution admitted once they got a separate camera angle that that knee was on the shoulder, not the neck.
	It was just the first camera angle made it look like it was on the neck.
	But actually, no, the second camera angle, it's very clear it was on the shoulder.
	And even then, you don't choke someone out by kneeling on the back of their neck.
	Never, ever seen that in MMA.
	I've watched thousands of MMA fights.
	That doesn't happen.
	Nobody does that.
	Because it's not a thing.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's a fentanyl overdose.
	But nevertheless.
	Yeah, a massive fentanyl overdose.
	Yes.
	But here's a report, recently published report that says that he was murdered.
	Doesn't matter that he wasn't.
	Doesn't matter that the prosecution in that case admitted that, no, the knee wasn't on the neck and it was fentanyl.
	Doesn't matter.
	It stopped, right?
	It wasn't a lack of air getting through his windpipe.
	His heart stopped.
	Yes.
	from Yeah.
	Okay, sorry.
	Carry on.
	Sorry.
	It provided a catalyst for the expression of deeper concerns about the social injustice experienced by black people.
	This was the same in the UK, although this was a wider expression against societal injustice.
	It was about policing.
	Yeah.
	So I'm not going to make you read the entire because there is quite a lot of it here.
	Just hand-wringing and pearl clutching, it sounds like.
	There's a lot of it.
	I read it so that you guys don't have to.
	So I'm going to give you my.
	Although even, you know, our very own George Floyd Stephen Lawrence gets relegated to a third paragraph.
	Yes, Floyd is before Lawrence.
	Floyd is above Lawrence in the hierarchy in the ranking.
	He is a lower saint, obviously.
	Okay.
	A lesser deity in the pantheon.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes, I wonder what his mum thinks about that.
	Well, she's in the Lords.
	Dame Lawrence, yes.
	So she can address that injustice.
	So my key takeaway from this report is one of the core premise of this entire report, if you read it, which I doubt you will, but if you did, the core premise is ideological, not empirical.
	Of course.
	So it assumes that unequal outcomes is evidence of racial discrimination.
	There is no serious analysis anywhere in here that I could find as to why certain communities interact with the police more.
	Unequal outcomes might be a result of unequal behaviour?
	Well, that's an assumption that I might have.
	You might have.
	Yes.
	But it's not represented in this.
	In fact, in page 16 under understanding and addressing disparities, I'll give you a quote.
	We recognise that disparities can be indicative of wider problems regardless of their cause.
	So causality does not matter.
	The disparity itself is treated as evidence of wrongdoing.
	Yes.
	I mean, that is a Kafkian trap, that is.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's abandoning reality, isn't it?
	Yes.
	If disparity exists, it must be racism.
	And if you question that, you're racist.
	There's no way out of that.
	Alright, I'm racist.
	Now, can we get on with looking at the actual evidence, please?
	Yes.
	It ignores facts.
	There was no reference I could find in here to crime data.
	It highlights that black people are stopped and searched at higher rates, but omits key context.
	The rates of violent crime and knife crime are disproportionately committed by young black men in London and other cities.
	No acknowledgement of that.
	According to the government's own Office of National Statistic, the Metropolitan Police data, a substantial proportion of serious youth violence, robbery, and drug offences are committed by young black boys.
	No reference to that at all.
	I found a reference in the forward by DCC Tyrone Joyce.
	Black people continue to be over-policed and underprotected.
	Trust and confidence in the police is lower amongst black communities.
	So that's an interesting phrase.
	Black people are over-policed and underrepresented.
	No, underprotected.
	So over-policed, they get more policing than is their due, and that leaves them underprotected.
	So the logic there is in order to protect them, you police them less, presumably not at all, and that will maximise their protection.
	That is the logic that's going on there.
	Well, that is often the sort of the paradigm they go for.
	The whole defund the police thing in America, for example.
	And didn't really get much for Snowfield here, but got some.
	Yeah, the idea that the police is not in any way ever there to help them or protect them in any way.
	They're better off with no police ever.
	That's sort of what they argue, isn't it, in various ways.
	So you're right that the defund the police narrative has been prevalent and it's been a conversation we've had over the last couple of years.
	But I just remind you that this is a police's report written by the police making the defund the police argument.
	Man.
	By the British police.
	Yes.
	We've got fundamental problems with our police, haven't we?
	Fundamental.
	Ideological ones, yes.
	Yes, deeply.
	If I was Lord Protector or Master of the Horse or King, or let's just go with Prime Minister, I would reform the police massively.
	I would change the laws to allow them to do, to not ever be worried about being too aggressive and stuff.
	The idea that they get pulled up and even policed for sort of stopping and search stuff like that.
	No, no, you're allowed to do all of that.
	And I would swap out their leadership for just based guys.
	Yes.
	Anyone that's got a hint of like liberal, wishy-washy, hand-wringing, anyone like that, fired, move on, have a pension, whatever it takes, get rid of them.
	And I want super-based dudes now.
	I mean, daily.
	I won't take any crap.
	You'd have to fire everybody at the rank of inspector and above.
	Because you cannot get promoted in the police these days by being good at your job, but by adherence to the ideology.
	In fact, I know a guy in the police who was going for a promotion a few years back.
	And there were three modules that you had to go through in order to get this promotion.
	And one was on the job, and the other one was also about the job because it was a particularly specialized role.
	So there was two bits of the modules directly related to that role.
	And the third bit was diversity, equity, inclusion.
	And he understood how the police works.
	So he revised for the third one and basically ignored the other two.
	And his result was out of the like seven people that were going for the job, he came the lowest on the first two modules and the highest on the third.
	And they gave him the job.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Now he doesn't think like this, but he just understands how the police work.
	So he played the game.
	He realised the only one that they're going to mark me on is the third module.
	The diversity, equity, inclusion one.
	Yeah.
	I had a friend in London last year who tried to join the Met and, you know, works out, looks after himself, will honestly be like an ideal police officer.
	But, yeah, didn't get the job.
	Didn't get the job.
	And then you see all these, you know, short pygmy women going around in police uniforms.
	And you're thinking it's just preposterous.
	There's a disease at the heart of our police, isn't it?
	It's a disease, a corruption.
	That has to be cut out.
	Yeah, so that was actually going to be my next observation from going through the report.
	Admission of racial preferences in hiring and discipline.
	So what did I find?
	I think this is page 21, according to my notes.
	The plan commits to affirmative action and de facto racial quotas and recruitment and promotion.
	Black applicants are to be encouraged and well prepared while white officers are not mentioned.
	The relevant quote I found was, we will attract and retain more black people in policing, use data to understand and address disproportionality in promotion and retention, improve internal culture so that more black officers are free to speak up.
	So it's deliberate racial engineering.
	Well, because they go by this, well, I was going to say preposterous, but I've caught myself here.
	By this idea that a community will be policed better by someone who looks like they're from that community.
	But obviously what's implicit in that is that if I were a white police officer going into a white community, they'd just be naturally hostile to me because I'm white.
	And it's like, well, if that is the case, then we've got a real problem here, haven't we?
	Right?
	If you can't even just go in and uphold the law because they see you as a distrustful other group.
	A racial enemy.
	A racial enemy.
	And would rather go to the worst gang members of their own for protection as opposed to an actual professional official arm of the law, then what should we take away from that?
	Well, yes, and it makes very clear that if they're going to do this racial hiring, then they are going to have situations where they've got a bunch of candidates for a job and say four out of five are white and are the best candidates and then the fifth one is the worst candidate but happens to be black and therefore is given the job.
	I mean that's basically what that section is saying.
	It's rewriting policing around black grievances.
	So there's a bit in the document where it calls for all Police to undergo mandatory training in black history.
	Oh, yeah, the quote is: all police, officers, and staff will undergo training on black history, including the relationship between policing and black communities.
	What?
	What kind of perverse nonsense is this?
	Yes.
	This is how you subvert and invert and pervert an organization.
	Like, it's one thing if it's just like the co-op or something.
	It's worse if it's like sort of English heritage or something.
	But the police, the police upon which law and order itself, justice, the very rule of law.
	Yes.
	We are going to use racial discrimination in hiring and promotion and discipline.
	Could it be any more potentially disastrous for a society?
	Because these communities have got a problem with English people policing in England.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	My fifth observation was there was an emphasis on feelings and not facts around this.
	Things like saying black people feel over-police, they feel underprotected, they perceive racism.
	There's a lot of emotional language in this.
	No empirical data.
	Well, given that their perception of the entire case of George Floyd was so remarkably off from reality in every regard, not really taking their feelings with any weight, to be honest.
	Tyrone Joyce, again, it is no longer sufficient to be non-racist.
	Policing must be anti-racist.
	And elsewhere in the document, this approach recognises that disparity in policing outcome may be experienced as discriminatory, even when it is not intentional, i.e.
	when they're arresting people for actual crimes.
	It produces a different outcome.
	But fundamentally, we have to acknowledge the reality of the world is that there are patterns in the universe.
	If you're looking for someone who's committed a knife crime in London, you're probably going to be looking for a young black male.
	That's just the reality of it.
	If you're looking for somebody who's done insider trading, you're probably looking for somebody who looks like me.
	If you're looking for somebody who's committed thought crime on Twitter, you're going to be looking for somebody like Bo.
	And if you're looking for somebody who's done 74 miles per hour on the A34 in a Jaguar E-Type 1969, you're probably looking for somebody like Luca.
	Or if you're looking to cast someone called Captain Darling in a play, you can do that too.
	I mean, there are patterns in this stuff.
	And, you know, this report acknowledges none of that.
	My sixth observation was it betrays equality of treatment under the law.
	So there is no pretense here that people should or will be or have been treated equally under the law.
	It is all about disparate outcomes.
	So I think it's page 18.
	All forces will adopt a revised national stop and search framework that recognizes and responds to the concerns of black people.
	So it's, you know, the fact that young black men are stabbing other young black men at record numbers, that is of no concern.
	What is concern is the concern felt by the black community and therefore we won't do any stop and search.
	Well, and of course, it's an obvious point to make as well, but even by their own, you know, logic of, well, let's look at it based on feelings and concerns.
	Well, what are the feelings and concerns of the remaining English people in London and the total alienation of their communities?
	What danger that's coming about?
	Well, if we're talking about concerns, let's get those concerns on the table and see how they have to be.
	You've preempted me again, sir.
	Very wise.
	I shall stop doing that.
	No, no, no, no.
	It goes to show that we think alike.
	So excellent work.
	My final point on the report is going to be no mention of white victims or white underrepresentation.
	You know, it's white working class.
	I mean, I looked up the worst performing police stations.
	It's great in Manchester, Cleveland, and West Mercia.
	Overwhelmingly white areas.
	They're the areas that are suffering the most.
	No mention of representation in white majority areas, white working class areas.
	Not a consideration at all.
	They don't matter.
	We had an empire in the 18th century, so now they don't matter.
	See how that works?
	There were sugar plantations in the Caribbean 200 years ago, so the concerns and safety of white people in the 2020s doesn't matter.
	Therefore, the safety of a plumber's daughter in West Midlands or something or whatever or Manchester is of no relevance.
	So no acknowledgement of white working class issues, even though they're the ones who are coming off worse from this in terms of failing to reach.
	This is racial disparity as a problem only when it's politically convenient is my main takeaway from this.
	Now, I wanted to think about where does this kind of thinking get you?
	And it actually casts my mind back to episode 604 of the podcast, which I'm sure you will remember well.
	That was an episode I think I did with Callum a while back, where I talked about a young lady who very much lived this ideology.
	She very much lived and breathed this ideology.
	Let's catch up with, for those of you who have forgotten her or hearing about her for the first time, let's hear about what Sasha Johnson has to say.
	And they say about education, we need a black militia.
	When I say that, I'm not saying it because I want people to fear and think we're coming violent.
	What we're saying is, you push, we push.
	You fight, we fight.
	Peace is not peace until you recognise our life.
	And we're not going to lay down no more.
	I'm not going down on the knee.
	I'm always going to be 10 toes standing, just like my ancestors, 10 toes standing.
	No justice!
	No justice!
	Take it to the streets!
	Can't hear you!
	No justice!
	No justice!
	Take it to the streets!
	Take it to the streets!
	I'm scared of no terrorist group.
	The police is no different from the KKK.
	They stand around and protect statues and buildings instead of people.
	They need to join the local council and start to litterpick two.
	So no justice, no peace, F for the Police, you know, she is a living embodiment of the sentiments that were in that report.
	She's the exact sort of person, like her entire ethos and just attitude is exactly the sort of thing you'd find in South Africa.
	Someone knows Kill the Ball LARPing as Malcolm X. Yes, I mean she would be at home in South Africa singing, was it Kill the Boar, Kill the Farmer?
	Yeah.
	Or she would be at home on the panel that wrote that police report.
	It's the same sentiment.
	This is a tweet from her.
	I mean, this is a while ago.
	This tweet went out, and I'll explain why it was a while ago in a moment.
	This is a tweet from her.
	The white man will not be our equal, but be our slave.
	History is changing.
	No justice, no peace.
	So she's very keen on the concept of justice.
	I wonder how much.
	Oxford.
	I wonder how that call for justice.
	She was particularly vicious.
	She saved her worst bile for other black people who disagreed with her.
	Classic.
	This is her addressing the concerns of a black individual who thought that she was full of it.
	Why do you think kneeling on a man's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds?
	I can show you a video now of legal hold, by the way.
	I'll show you.
	You just need to shut up, man.
	You're a coon.
	You just shut up.
	Get angry some more and threaten me some more.
	Get angry and threaten you some more.
	I promise you, I don't threaten you.
	I promise you.
	So come out there.
	Let's listen to the promise.
	Let's listen to the promise.
	Come out there and we live through the promise.
	I can promise you now.
	Come out there and we live it through.
	You're a coon.
	Dude, what?
	What do you mean?
	Because I'm a girl, you think I'm going to fuck you up?
	Come on, man.
	Because I'm a girl.
	You're here to drive this side out to make it look like all black people are ignorant.
	Yeah, I'm angry right now because of what's going on.
	It's made me angry.
	Yes, just like when he was angry when he thought that his town was being destructed, his city's statues were going at angry too.
	Of course you're angry.
	Yeah, so why are you calling me dude?
	What does the dude mean?
	What does the dude mean?
	What does the dude?
	What does the dude mean?
	Yeah, there you go.
	So, you know, a terrifying display there.
	Threatened to beat a man up.
	But as you can see, she's full of vim and vigour on this stuff.
	You know.
	The terrifying physical presence of Sasha Johnson.
	Well, what it also goes to show as well that this dissent from within her own people as well.
	Even if you did have a black policeman come to her community, she's not going to side with them because he's a traitor.
	He joined that British institution.
	Presumably he's also a coup.
	A white institution.
	Yes.
	Yes, quite.
	He'd be a collaborator or whatever in her mind.
	She was so committed to this ideology that was in this police report.
	She spread it to her children.
	Maybe I'll play just a little bit of this.
	It's recorded.
	Okay, well I can't figure out how to play it.
	But anyway, I can't hear you.
	Black power.
	Put that on.
	Black power.
	Black power.
	Every hour.
	Black power.
	My son, what do you say?
	Freedom is a mother.
	Every hour.
	They can't hold who?
	Can't hold your mother.
	Listen.
	Black power.
	Every hour.
	Every hour.
	Taylor.
	Please, Dan.
	I can't take it.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	But, you know, she made sure her little kids, before they did the little dance, were imbued with this ideology.
	It was so important to her.
	They're not even children, are they, though?
	They're just foot soldiers.
	For her, they're just the next generation of foot soldiers in a race war.
	That's how she's raising them.
	Yes.
	Yes, quite.
	So how did it work out for Sasha?
	Unfortunately, not too well, actually.
	Not too well.
	She was attending a house party with some guys she was seeing, apparently.
	And her and whoever this guy was were in some sort of dispute with another group.
	And they walked in at 3 a.m. and shot her in the head.
	She didn't die.
	Is she still alive to this day?
	I've tried to find out her current condition.
	And the best I can find is that I don't think she can speak.
	She's paralysed down one side, but she can manage to squeeze her hand or something like that.
	She's not dead, though?
	No, I couldn't find any latest.
	The latest information I could find is from about two years ago.
	And I suspect, although I don't know, is that she's still bedridden.
	She might be out of hospital.
	If you're missing half your head.
	Well, she lost an eye and, as you can see, a substantial proportion of the skull there.
	And therefore brain.
	Yes.
	So obviously missing a big chunk of brain.
	Yes.
	That's probably why paralyzed down one side.
	But being such a champion for the black community, I imagine her supporters and her partisans rallied round for justice to get the people that did it.
	Well, at least that.
	Yeah, I mean, there is no justice, no peace.
	I mean, that was the shout, wasn't it?
	No, it turns out there was no, there's justice.
	I mean, to this day, there is still a reward offered in any information for the shooting of Sasha Johnson.
	The interesting thing is, is that the police actually know who did it.
	Oh, really?
	They found out really quickly.
	Okay.
	Because these were apparently not sophisticated criminals because, I mean, the police could do all sorts of things.
	Like when a crime happens in an area, they can track phones, of course.
	So all they did is like, okay, well, we know that five people came in.
	There was an altercation, some shooting, and then they left.
	Okay, have we got five phones moving through this area, going into this property and then leaving after a very short period of time.
	And yes, there was.
	And they arrested them.
	And they found copious evidence on their phone of a serious dispute going on between these five individuals and the people in that house.
	So, okay, it was circumstantial evidence, but it was pretty damn clear what was going on.
	And it was at a house party.
	The house was full.
	There's loads and loads of loads and loads of witnesses.
	But apparently they all believed in Sasha Johnson's rhetoric because none of them cooperated with the police.
	Not one of them.
	Which unfortunately meant that she got no justice or no peace.
	It does speak volumes, doesn't it?
	That you'd rather her killer, or not killers, her assailants go free than speak to the police.
	Well, you've got to show racial solidarity.
	You know, that was her whole philosophy.
	Presumably, that's what she would have wanted.
	Well, I suppose so.
	Yeah.
	I suppose so.
	Yeah.
	You know, this was the best I could find on her current condition.
	You know, this article here, we're talking to a sister.
	It's a couple of years old now.
	But yeah, apparently some eye movement in the eye that she's still got, squeezing the hand of her mother, and that's about it.
	That's what I could tell.
	You know, which is a bit sad.
	So she believed in these exact same mentalities the people who wrote that report.
	In fact, I'm going to, you know, this again is another black Brit who takes issue with her kind of thinking, who also made this point, which I think is worth listening to.
	And people have quickly moved on.
	A couple of months before the attack, Sasha did an interview with a YouTuber.
	And at some point, the interviewer talked about a black man who had a very positive opinion on the police, but later ended up being killed by the same police he was defending.
	And what Sasha said is very interesting because some people feel the same way about her attack.
	Have you seen the case of Jonathan Price here in America?
	Have you seen that case?
	No, I haven't.
	I've been hearing about it.
	Well, you know, what ended up happening to this, you know, black man is that he was killed by the police recently.
	Well, a few months ago, when we were starting to turn up for George Floyd over here, you know, he was one of them same black people that was saying, what y'all doing out there?
	You making me sick.
	You're making everything about race.
	Then he started talking about some white folks raised him and fed him a lot of food.
	And he had these addiction to their, you know, these white females and all this stuff.
	He's talking about how great the police were.
	And them same police that he thought they were so great, kill his behind.
	Just early this month.
	Now, I don't want to see nobody lose their life, but see, that's what we're dealing with out.
	He needed to go.
	You say what?
	He needed to go.
	He needed the same people he worshiped, the same people he wants his merits from.
	They're the same people who took him out.
	It showed him in the end who they are.
	So it took him to that point to see who they are.
	That's why we're saying to our brothers and sisters, wake up now.
	What a psycho.
	What a psycho.
	Yeah.
	Strangely prophetic words on this.
	But yeah, so I mean, I use Sasha Johnson as a tragic example of this type of thinking.
	You know, more anti-white racism is not going to make life better for the British black people.
	It's not because, you know, we've seen where that road leads.
	And, you know, I'm very slightly paraphrasing a sentence in the report, but it says, we accept policing still contains racism, discrimination and bias.
	Yeah, I think it does, but not in the way that they think.
	and their philosophy is just going to make things so much worse for the, you know, black community.
	With that, my goodness, a lot of people...
	Require the police to strip off their shorts and beat themselves with whips and knotted cords when they walk for a black neighbourhood.
	Well, no, no, just, I don't think they want them walking for a black neighborhood at all.
	Alex Adamson says, oh, yeah, standing proud like her ancestors who couldn't figure out how to make a wheel.
	Well, I don't know who her ancestors were.
	Cranky Texan, she starts those chants with the same confidence that a drill sergeant has that they will be repeated.
	This is a military style conditioning.
	Yes.
	Right, okay.
	All right then.
	Yes, I'll have two miles.
	Okay, great.
	So, as you may remember recently, you had the Democrat nominee for the mayor of New York, Mamdani, coming in on a wave of leftist populist energy and really anti-Israel rhetoric, right?
	That was another large part of it.
	But it's not just New York now.
	We also have Minneapolis as well in Minnesota.
	Now, this is, but before we talk about who the new candidate, also just to say, the Democrat system in Minnesota seems to be a little bit irregular.
	So what you have here is not, this wasn't a primary.
	It's not like he is the demed choice, but he gained enough votes for them to endorse him.
	But even though this guy who is currently the mayor and also a member of the Democrat Party, as you can see here, Minnesota Democratic Family.
	That's the current mayor of Minnesota.
	This is the current mayor of Minneapolis.
	This is Jesse the Body Ventura Territory.
	Wasn't he the mayor of Minneapolis?
	Is that right?
	He was a governor, wasn't he?
	Oh, governor.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Sorry, that's right.
	He was.
	Yeah, he was governor.
	That's right.
	So this is the current mayor.
	Right.
	and Jacob Fry.
	And I felt like we should talk about him a little bit because Jacob has been doing wonders over the years as mayor for the progressive cause of politics.
	You can see here from 2023, he says this is a great day for Minneapolis.
	Everybody should have this access no matter their immigration status.
	And he's proud to see this bill pass the Senate.
	So licenses for unauthorized immigrants.
	And you can see here, this is obviously him literally crying in a mask at George Floyd's funeral.
	Okay.
	Wow, that is a...
	With that...
	Crying on his knees, George Floyd in a mask.
	Yes.
	Shuddering with tears.
	It's definitely not performative.
	Shaking.
	Literally shaking.
	So what you have.
	I mean, it's good that he's taking the fentanyl crisis seriously.
	I mean, there is that.
	I don't think he really got around to that, actually, funnily enough.
	But this was another one that was just totally bewildering.
	Today at City Hall, we celebrate the 10-year anniversary of the DACA program, a program vital to hundreds of thousands of young people.
	What is the DACA program?
	I'll come to it in just a second.
	The Minneapolis we know and love today was built by immigrants, and our city continues to protect and support immigrant children and neighbours.
	Now, I'm just asking questions here, but I do wonder if the immigrants from Somalia and Eritrea, because all immigrants are just immigrants, right?
	The quality of them doesn't differ on where they come from.
	If they would have been able to build that very lovely 19th century.
	Presumably, if I were to go to Eritrea or Somalia, every time I walked inside a building, it would look like that.
	Yes.
	I've never been, so I don't know.
	I mean, maybe.
	You've never seen the Eritrean Michelangelo?
	No.
	No, I haven't, actually.
	Neither have I. But you asked me what DACA was, so let's talk about it.
	DACA was an Obama-era program.
	And as you can see here, it's the deferred action for childhood arrivals, allowing young immigrants to grow up in the United States to seek temporary protection.
	And it goes on to say that it's already transformed the lives of more than 834,000 young people.
	So presumably, we're nearly a million illegal children who have just been able to, through this initiative, basically be shielded by the law and continue to live without fear of deportation.
	I see in the second paragraph, it then discloses that it's talking about undocumented immigrants.
	Yes.
	For some reason, that is a thing, like undocumented shoppers are just, you know, stealing stuff, you know, undocumented fornicators.
	You know, we don't want to say rapists or anything.
	You know, we have to use these euphemisms at all times.
	Yes.
	But, well, I can't speak to the fornicators, but the mayor was definitely in favor of the illegal immigrants.
	Right.
	He was definitely in favor of that.
	And he really went to bat for it.
	This Immigrant Heritage Month, we celebrate the thousands of immigrants who now call Minneapolis home this month and every month.
	We recognize their strength, courage, and invaluable contributions to our city.
	And so he was also, it's not just the African immigrants as well.
	I won't play this because I honestly can't bear to watch it again.
	But the Minneapolis mayor signs a resolution allowing Islamic call to prayer to be broadcast daily, just forever, five days a week from the mosques in Minneapolis.
	So personally, I find this cringy.
	However, he's presumably doing it because it is necessary to lock in, you know, immigrant support, Islamic support.
	So, I mean, at least he's doing it because it secures his...
	So at least he's doing all of this so that he will be the mayor for well into the 2040s or whatever.
	That's the reiner gambit.
	Yeah.
	But they won't vote for him.
	I mean.
	Is he Jewish?
	Yes.
	Right, so the Muslims won't vote for him once they've got a block of their own.
	No.
	They certainly won't vote for him.
	Well, yeah, but he's done everything necessary in order to lock in this position for years ahead.
	It won't work, will it?
	Everything.
	Well, I mean, he's done all the pandering.
	He's done all the pandering, but is he Somalian?
	That's the question.
	Right.
	Is he Somalian?
	That's what I mean.
	It's like the Rainer Gambit.
	It won't work.
	No.
	It might work for maybe one election before they realise, oh no, we'll just vote for our own guy.
	So who's the other guy?
	Well, we'll get to him in just a second.
	As you can see here, let's just focus on Fry a little bit longer.
	So here is him trying to win.
	I wonder what his rabbi thinks about this.
	I wonder what his rabbi thinks about this.
	What are they going to say at Temple?
	This is really damaging my cringometer.
	I'm afraid this is truly an example of civilization being incommunicable, right?
	Have you run out of Coke tan?
	Yeah, I need another line or two for this.
	Coke isn't going to cut it.
	We need some Coke.
	So we can yell long live Somali.
	The Jewish man can yell long live Somalia on the stage with a bunch of Somalians.
	But ultimately, you're not Somali, mate.
	And so you're not going to compete with this, are you?
	We should.
	Make the off for him and pray for him.
	I understand that our Somali communities are all connected to each other here in Minnesota and back home and ask for your support.
	There's always been a link between our community here as well as back home.
	And I'm running to bridge that gap and unite all of us and represent all of us because when we succeed here, we're going to succeed everywhere.
	And I'm hoping to do that.
	So home is not America.
	I picked up on that.
	Home is in Somalia.
	Yes.
	It's not in his home, obviously.
	He's not living there, God forbid.
	He's over here.
	Well, over in America, I should say.
	Poor Jacob Frey did all that pandering and it didn't matter.
	No.
	Because he's not Somalian.
	Well, I'm shocked.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a remarkable outcome.
	I personally did not see this coming.
	I thought the Jewish guy was just going to dominate Somali politics for decades.
	And so, look at me.
	I am your mayor now.
	This is what it's come to.
	And the fascinating thing about his little speech there, it was all about shipping resources back to Somalia.
	You know, when he says support for back home, first of all, by home, he doesn't mean Minneapolis.
	No, he means mortgage.
	And by support, he means money.
	It's how can I send white people's money from Minneapolis to Somalia?
	That was what he was saying.
	And white Democrats are like, sure, we'll vote for you.
	Here's our wallet.
	Yeah, absolutely that.
	Absolutely that.
	So he also, one of the remarkable things about it, I do feel like this picture was probably his exact face when the results came in.
	It really does seem like that.
	So yes, this new kid on the block is Omar Fatah, which is just how I'm going to pronounce the surname.
	I'm not really that interested.
	So let's talk about some of his ideas, shall we, if he has any.
	With Donald Trump back in the Oval Office, the progress towards equity and justice that our communities have worked so hard to create is in jeopardy.
	Mayor Fry has said that our approach to fighting Trump is extreme.
	He's wrong.
	The only way to stand up to Trump and his posse of unelected billionaires is to create a city that is radically inclusive and stands up for those who are most at risk.
	I am running for mayor so that we can do that work together.
	So it's the exact same rhetoric as Mamdani in New York.
	It's about Trump-proofing this city against the larger wishes of the US electorate, who have, of course, put Trump in a place of federal authority, right, in the government.
	But we're going to carve out this little commune for ourselves in Minneapolis.
	No, we're not going to allow, well, it says here, whether it's for an immigration raid or not, our residents deserve a mayor that will stand up to Trump and say, no, not in our community.
	So to try keep out ICE, to try and keep out ICE raids in Minneapolis as well.
	Which, I'm just saying, sounds like treason to me.
	So I'm probably a bit out of date on this, but my picture of Minneapolis probably goes back to the 80s, when it was quite famous for having quite a lot of Nords, like Norwegians and Swedes living there.
	But I guess that picture must be out of date now.
	My 80s view of Minneapolis was not lots and lots of Somalians.
	Well, I hesitate to correct you live on air, Dan, but I think your bigotry is showing a bit because Somalians can be Scandinavians too.
	Yes, yes, you are quite right.
	Is this Ilhan Omar territory as well?
	she up there?
	Well she is Somalian but in what?
	More Michigan, is she?
	I can't remember.
	Anyway.
	That's alright.
	Doesn't really matter.
	He also...
	On public safety, if I can find it.
	There we go.
	He goes on to say that Minneapolis residents want a mayor whose bold and transformative approaches to public safety will end the cycle of the Minneapolis Police Department's violence and brutality that has held our city captive for many years.
	So presumably like Minneapolis, like Jugged Dredd style, just going around just murdering minorities.
	Yeah, Ilan and Omar is Minnesota.
	Right, okay.
	So it's truly an East African enclave.
	It has the largest concentration of Somalians of any state.
	Yeah, if you'd asked me in the 90s where there would be an East African Somali enclave in the United States, it could be anywhere.
	Where do you think it would be?
	I wouldn't have guessed Minnesota.
	I would not have thought.
	And isn't it really cold there a lot of the year?
	Like massive snow drifts and stuff.
	Yeah, again, that was my image of it as well.
	I think the Scandinavies went there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because it's near the frozen wastelands of Canada, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But no, the police department has been holding the city captive for many years.
	Has it?
	So exactly the same sort of rhetoric that you were talking about in the last segment, Dan, this entire philosophy.
	He goes on to say that what we're going to do is invest in upstream solutions to reduce crime that results from poverty and lacking access to mental health care, housing, public spaces and presumably youth centres as well.
	Some other causes of crime not mentioned here, but I thought I'd include them are fatherlessness, differences in cultural behaviour and a lack of deterrent, I would suggest.
	were real things that might...
	When we go back and look at example of, I don't know, the Great Depression, massive spike in poverty, no availability of mental health, no provision of whatever else.
	And yet the crime levels basically remain static.
	It's almost as if crime is a function of the people who are in an environment rather than things like crime.
	sorry, things like poverty.
	Because when you move those factors, when you make a certain ethnic community more or less prosperous, it seems to have very little effect on crime levels.
	It seems more innate than that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Like the amount of money you've got in your bank account, if it drops below a certain amount, you immediately start doing crime.
	Yes.
	If it goes above a certain threshold, you stop doing crime.
	Yes.
	It doesn't, people don't, the world, reality, it doesn't, yeah, that argument, that whole argument that you always get from lefties.
	And interestingly, it's so retarded.
	I mean, different groups, communities, tend to have the same crime levels, irrespective of whether they're a multi-millionaire NBA player or in the hood.
	You know, the crime, the individual propensity to crime seems to carry, you know, even there's a lot fewer of the very rich, they still commit crime at an elevated rate.
	So, you know, maybe it's not youth centres.
	Poverty.
	Well, I tell you what, if he becomes mayor and he implements his plans, will we assess the crime rates and we'll see...
	Well, yes, maybe his approach will work.
	Yes, I don't want to prejudge.
	Well, we'll come back to this if he wins.
	Obviously, as you can see here, a lot of Americans celebrating his victory.
	In the building that they built.
	In the building that they built, their ancestors built.
	Yes.
	Are we going to mention the physiognomy?
	You can mention it.
	Do you have something to say about the physiognomy?
	Which Lord of the Rings character?
	Rarely lies, does it?
	Starving Marvel.
	Are you going to draw the comparison to?
	Perhaps we shouldn't go into any detail.
	Maybe not.
	Maybe not.
	I mean, come on.
	Come on.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Please.
	So, but obviously, he's not mayor yet.
	He's not mayor yet.
	He does have the endorsement of the affiliated Democratic branch.
	So, he will get their support, their funding for his campaign going forward.
	But Fry's not giving in.
	Fry's not giving in.
	He's dogged.
	City, Fate's endorsement in Minneapolis has made national headlines.
	In the absence of a primary here, the endorsement provides crucial support for Fate, but doesn't mean he will automatically beat Mayor Jacob Fry, who is running for a third term.
	That kind of experience matters.
	Saying the election should be decided by our entire city and not by a handful of delegates, Fry is pushing forward to November.
	But in an appeal to the state party asking for an expedited review of Fate's endorsement, Fry's campaign claims hundreds of votes were missing or uncounted in mayoral balloting at the convention on Saturday because of flaws in a new electronic voting system used by delegates.
	I have never witnessed anything as poorly run.
	Mike Erlinson, a delegate in former...
	So, I am not going to investigate at all.
	I am simply going to assert that it is the most secure election ever.
	I just know it.
	Well, that's what the Democrat Party has been telling us for a long time.
	So, I'm inclined to believe them as well.
	You can trust those electronic voting machines.
	You can.
	Yes.
	I've heard it long enough by now.
	Yes.
	And also, countries like Eritrea, Somalia, Sudan, people like that, as a general rule, broadly speaking, would never engage in electoral fraud of any kind.
	No, no, no.
	It's not really in their DNA to do such things.
	Yes.
	So, you know.
	Well, so I could...
	Don't think that.
	No.
	Whatever you do.
	I wish I could tell you, like, the breakdown of this vote by women, you know, race, ethnicity, all these sorts of things.
	I don't have that data.
	The only thing I'm confused about, though, is that going on Jacob Frey's prior statements, surely it would be better for the Jewish people of Minnesota to have a Somalian mayor.
	How do you figure that one?
	Well, I mean, that's sort of where his rhetoric is going, isn't it?
	You know, he's very subservient to that population.
	I mean, it must be because they're better.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, you make your bed.
	Well, it's a tale as old as time, isn't it?
	That, you know, with someone like Frey, he's...
	You can call for the Islamic prayer.
	You can cry at George Floyd's funeral.
	You can embarrass yourself doing a Somalian dance, right?
	With a weird microphone.
	And none of it will matter because the Somali diaspora is loyal to its own.
	Yeah, he's in the wrong tribe.
	Right.
	As far as they're concerned.
	And that's all it comes down to.
	That's all it comes down to.
	So I'm not going to say that, you know, the Somalians have given Omar this win because there is not enough of them to fully just hand it to him.
	But I definitely think there are plenty of white liberals in Minneapolis who were more than happy to be useful idiots and hand this to an even more lunatic socialist.
	I say bring Jesse the body back.
	Get him out of retirement.
	Used to be a Navy SEAL, didn't you know?
	Well, get him to be mayor.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	He knows the territory, doesn't he?
	Sounds better.
	Sounds better.
	So, yeah.
	But look, it comes down to this thing that Americans constantly talk about the fact that the demographics of Europe are not doing so well.
	But I don't see anywhere near enough attention within Republican circles.
	People are talking.
	It started to get a bit more with people like Pasoviak and even, what's his name?
	Charlie Kirk's been starting to talk about it.
	But it's like, it's getting late, right?
	the hour's getting really late for you America and if you don't acknowledge the fact that with places like New York that are giving you Mamdani and with the fact that you've got places like California which are literally been annexed by Mexican loyalists and now Minnesota becoming a carve out for the Somalians that you've just allowed to stream in there for decades now you're going to lose your country you're going to lose your country and so look I have no faith in Trump that he's going to sort this now,
	but it's something that's going to have to be top of your priorities in the future.
	All right, I'll go to the.
	I mean, now that's the end of the segment.
	We've got, to be fair, we've got exactly the same shit going on, right?
	We do, but they're just.
	Like, look at Sadiq Khan.
	Look at the mayors up and down our country that are Muslims.
	Yep.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	Don't worry.
	Not that that negates your point at all.
	No.
	I'm not saying that.
	But I do get a sense that the British people are more conscious of it than the WASPs, generally speaking.
	Yeah, fair point.
	Feel free to correct me on that.
	And the Americans.
	I'm sure you think about it all the time.
	But then you are low to see it as viewers.
	So we've got Engaged View says, what's next?
	Require the police to strip off their shorts and beat themselves with whiffs of knotted cords.
	That's the last segment.
	Oh, so it is.
	Yes.
	Skims at the top.
	alright so we've got Okay.
	Oh, yeah, for $20.
	Thank you very much.
	Sad Wings Raging says, keep up the good work, lads.
	Now go buy a ruddy toolkit.
	One demerit each of your man card for nobody having already got one.
	Get Daisy to show you what one is if necessary.
	I think they actually found one somewhere in a bottom drawer yesterday.
	But thank you for the money.
	And here are...
	Sorry, my brain's absolutely...
	Hiris.
	Hirushanikaban.
	Hiroshinaban.
	What is it with these people in youth centers?
	Where did this joke of a meme come from, genuinely?
	And what is meant to solve?
	It was just one of the things that all the BLM types kept recommending, didn't they, back in 2020?
	And it just became such a meme.
	I mean, it's older than that.
	It goes back quite a few years where they would say, well, there's loads and loads of youth crime somewhere.
	It's because they're bored.
	It's because they've got nowhere to go.
	They're hanging around parks and doing violent things on the streets and in parks because they haven't got a youth centre to go to.
	If only there were more youth centres where there were pool tables, access to pool tables and ping-pong tables, then there wouldn't be loads of street crime.
	I remember being bored once in the 80s and a very nearly robbed co-op.
	You know, luckily I found a pool table just in the nick of time.
	Right.
	Yes.
	Well, there's literally footage, account and footage of accounts of where there is a youth centre and all the black boys are fighting, stabbing each other inside the youth centre, running around a pool table to get to each other and stuff.
	So the youth centre thing is a nonsense, nonsense argument, isn't it?
	Yes.
	That's why we parody it.
	What does this guy say?
	you can have a bit Hey, I'm bald.
	Have you ever been with a blackbird before?
	orientating laughing what the f– ELIE'S DONT You don't eat this Your kinda meat I'm not sure you want to let a crow drink your pint.
	Yeah, I wouldn't drink from that pint after that.
	Yeah, I mean, that crow has probably been like picking at the inside of a dead squirrel.
	Great video, though.
	Yeah, very interesting.
	It's fun if you can get Carl's parrot to smoke a cigarette.
	Let's try.
	Welcome back, Carl.
	Oh, I haven't seen you guys in a while since I moved back from France.
	That was a nightmare.
	Here.
	Back in America now.
	You know, started working at a game store for one of my good friends.
	Sadly enough, some financial problems have hit him, and he has to now sell the store, and it's going to change.
	And we need you guys' help.
	I put a gift send go in the description.
	Please help us out.
	Okay, check that out if you want to help out.
	Help that fella out if you can.
	There's something I feel that everyone knows, but I haven't seen articulated anywhere.
	In that Epstein was really Trump's primary mandate.
	Because what Epstein revealed is that the hypothetically representative democracies have been so subverted that they now have integral to it a plurality of sex-cult blackmailing rings so that the elected representatives may be forcefully synchronized to the will of a centralized power.
	Trump was to be the complete wrecking ball sent by a disillusioned electorate the maximum amount of force it could exert against an unfaithful state.
	So in seeing him break in this issue, the only conclusion we can reasonably draw is that the legitimacy and the normalcy of democracy may no longer be restored via normal means.
	Which is to say, this issue is dropped at great peril.
	Yeah, entirely agree.
	He's right, you know, the key mandate, more than any singular policy, was just about putting trust back in the American government, being able to trust your government again.
	Sorry, no, and they've entirely violated that trust.
	The thing that I find so interesting about it is how overtly and explicitly he would talk about Epstein in the run-up to his elections.
	Yes.
	Because you would think if he was there to ultimately stonewall us, wouldn't you, out of everything else, just not really talk about that much as a campaign promise?
	But there's loads of other things he can and did talk about, right?
	Loads of other things.
	You could even just talk about the swamp in the most general terms, but he would explicitly talk about that, like Epstein.
	So it's weird.
	It's weird.
	Beyond the MLK stuff or the Kennedy stuff, right?
	Or 9-11.
	They talked about 9-11, didn't they?
	The Epstein files were the biggest one.
	that's the one that people wanted more than anything.
	Because that's the one that, you know, aside from...
	Yeah, it's still relevant.
	People can still be brought to justice over that.
	It's not like the Kennedy thing where everyone's dead now.
	Right?
	Well, the fundamental question is: who governs us?
	And the Epstein affair is kind of telling you about that.
	They just don't want to go there.
	His handlers, Epstein's handlers, whoever they were, superiors, they can exert enough pressure on Trump to get him to 180.
	In a really obvious hand-fisted way.
	Yeah.
	This is not going to go away.
	I mean, we will be talking about this a whole bunch more, I'm sure.
	Yeah, I'll never let it go.
	Personally, like JFK, it's one of those things I'll never, ever let go.
	I might not talk about it every day.
	I'll tweet about it every day.
	In fact, obviously I won't, but I'll never let it go.
	Never.
	Why should I?
	Yeah, quite.
	All right, I'll go through some comments for your segment, but I've got Sophie Lib saying, yeah, it reminds me of when this massive migrant caravan came from Germany and walked through Denmark to get to Sweden.
	Sweden was very mad at us for not stopping them, but why would we?
	If we push them back to Germany, some human rights lawyer would give us shit.
	If we did nothing, the problem would solve itself, at least for us.
	It's Sweden's problem now.
	Well, yeah, but obviously this also comes down to when you...
	This legendary alliance, this European community, actually when push comes to shove, you find that actually Schengen was all bollocks.
	Yes.
	And one of those sacred pillars was not so sacred in the end.
	And aren't the Danes and the Swedes not brothers?
	Cousins at least?
	We're brothers, cousins, at least with the French.
	Quite quick to step.
	Right.
	Northwest Europeans.
	Right.
	Right.
	A DNA is very, very similar.
	So just stabbing each other in the back for some sort of short-term gain.
	Yep.
	Disappointing, isn't it?
	Michael Drabelvis says, be fair, who really wants to go to France?
	There's some decent castles in France.
	Yeah, I'd like to see more of them.
	I'd like to see more of them.
	That's about it.
	There's some lovely places, the Dourdogne, the Loire, Picardy itself, Normandy itself.
	Absolutely beautiful.
	And someone online says, Captain Carv and his faithful parrot can sail the channel to protect you.
	Yes, that's what we need.
	Do you want to read some from Yelsdan or shall I read a few?
	Yes, right.
	So Theodore Brewer says, the police are enforcers of the current paradigm, and unfortunately, the current order is international communism.
	I hope that England controls those who wish to kill it.
	Yes, that would be good, wouldn't it?
	Jack Duckett points out that black history training is already taking place in Westminster Police's initial training before new recruits even hit the streets.
	He can confirm that.
	And Sophie Liv says, what makes this insidious is unlike America, every single black person in England chose to go there or furthest their grandparents did.
	There's no history of slavery or shipping blacks there against their will.
	They're there by choice.
	Yeah, and I suppose when it's here, the argument is, oh, yes, but you did a bit of colonialism in the past.
	But then they really struggle when it comes to Ireland and Scandinavia.
	And I can't even remember what the excuse there is.
	Yeah, they make up something else, don't you?
	Yeah, there's always an excuse.
	Oh, no, the excuse with Ireland is that they emigrated themselves at some point.
	And therefore, I can't remember what it is for Scandinavia.
	And also, you know, when you get accusations, it's like institutional racism.
	It's like, well, take for, you know, the Metropolitan Police, for example.
	Oh, what?
	So back in the 1840s, they were designing it, thinking, how can we persecute and make things harder for all the other races who don't live in England?
	Yeah.
	Because everyone's English.
	If they were doing it back then, it would have been, how can we discriminate against Irish and Jews?
	Yeah, and the two Chinese people at the port, probably.
	And then from my segment, Jordi Saussman says, stop it, darling.
	Only Cringe Commander the Stelios is allowed to unleash cringe like that.
	Well, you can welcome him back tomorrow and he'll hopefully bring it to the bottom.
	That's the title Cringe Commander.
	That sounds right.
	Cringe Commander.
	Yeah, it does have an interesting ring to it.
	That's Sasha Johnson indoctrinating her children.
	It's like, oh my God.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're going to have a conflict growing up, aren't they?
	Or what happened to Mummy?
	Oh, yeah.
	she was an anti-white crusader and she got shot in the head by black people it's like and he's Yeah.
	They're screwed up.
	They will be screwed up, won't they, on some level?
	I mean, I don't know if the father of those children or fathers of those children, I really don't know.
	I don't know if they're still in the picture.
	Who can say?
	No idea.
	No idea.
	Northboard, I would wager $100 he will get done in for corruption within six months because he won't be able to help himself.
	Well, there'll be allegations of corruption, whether anything actually happens as a result.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I'm not so convinced.
	I'm not so convinced.
	And then someone online says, I can't get over how he literally looks like a racist cartoon from the 1860s.
	Well.
	A little bit.
	And then honourable mentions.
	Sophie Liv says, so Dan, visa and debit cards couldn't be used in North Europe countries for two hours last Saturday evening.
	Any thoughts?
	Among countries hit with Denmark, Norway, Germany and Greece for two hours.
	None of us could use cards.
	Interesting.
	I didn't know that.
	I'm not going to look into that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then Lord Inquisitor Hector X says, Luca, you need to cover a city that split off from the Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
	The city wouldn't let them form their own school district for kids to have a proper education.
	So they said effort and decided to form their own city.
	You can guess who decided to leave and who is now upset.
	Well, thank you, Rex.
	I'll look into that.
	I will.
	Well, that's all we've got time for today, ladies and gentlemen.
	Thank you for joining me both.
	And you can catch us at 1pm tomorrow.

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