Welcome to the podcast The Loot Eaters for just a Friday.
Just a fairly standard Friday here in England that nobody has anything interesting to say about.
Today I'm joined by Harry and Mark Wharton from the Basket Weavers.
And I just want to say thank you to Blood for the Blood God for donating $200 before the podcast has even started.
Man, that's incredible.
Have some beer and barbecue money for my favorite English.
Why are the Americans so generous on the 4th of July?
What is going on on the 4th of July?
Does anyone have any?
Because we forget that we're a very poor country.
This is just like pocket change for a lot of people.
Yeah, good point.
Yeah, this is just charity.
Just like, sorry, Anglopause enjoyed.
But no, seriously, happy 4th of July to our American friends.
Hope you're having a great day.
Hope you're going to have lots of beer and barbecue and what else?
Just drink self-esteem.
Don't blow your fingers off with fireworks.
Don't do that.
Lots of 2% lago.
Yeah, yeah.
But have a great day.
Well, you can drink it through the whole day and barely feel anything.
Yeah, but on the plus side, we're going to be talking about some fun stuff that's happening in America.
We're going to talk about Jeremy Corbyn's Palestine Party, which is we're going to get our own Muslim Party, which is wonderful.
And we're going to be talking about literally the Jezbolla.
And we're going to be talking about the most dangerous secret society in Britain.
I hope not here have uncovered.
Yes, the leader of this ragtag bunch of rebels is with us.
Even more secretive and complicated than that.
You have no idea.
Well, that's why we've got you on the podcast to tell everyone about it.
Anyway, so without further ado, let's begin.
So, oh, no, in fact, let's remind her, we've got Lad's Hour after this, and we're going to be playing the Trump game, because one of our kind subscribers sent us this after we played the James O'Brien.
He's the same guy who's been psychologically torturing me with all of these dead drops of libshit books.
He's one of my favourite subscribers, actually.
I'm sure he is for you.
I've got an increasingly awful pile of LBC and Owen Jones on my desk at the moment.
But he decided to give us a break for a sec and send us Gary Stevenson for Dan.
And this.
To be fair, sending the Gary Stevenson one for Dan is probably quite a good thing.
He sent us the Ash Sharkart book as well.
I'm going to have to read that.
But yeah, anyway.
I've heard this is the best game.
It's the very best game.
It's tremendous.
I have heard a lot of people getting fired in it.
So, I mean, it's literally on the front.
Anyway, yeah, so join us at 3 o'clock on Load Caesars for Trump's game on the Lads Hour because that'll be fun.
Anyway, so without further ado, that's not working.
So we will have further ado, actually, because I'm going to get that working because I prefer pressing the button, if I can get that in, than I do using the mouse.
That's not the right one.
That's the right one.
Right.
There we go.
Right.
So, Trump's deportation bill, or sorry, no, Trump's big, beautiful bill, had a large amount of money sectioned out in it for border security and ICE.
And this was taken very poorly by the Democrats.
In fact, let's watch the Democrat minority leader Hakeem Jeffries explain to us exactly how great this bill is going to be.
By the deportation machine, a deportation machine that will be unleashed on steroids by this one big, ugly bill.
We know that, in fact, is the case.
That's not hyperbole.
It's not a hypothetical.
It's not hype.
J.D. Vance told us the other day, don't worry about the cuts to Medicaid.
Don't worry about the fact that this is the largest cut to Medicaid in American history.
Don't worry about the fact that millions of Americans, more than 17 million Americans, will lose their health care and many more will experience higher premiums, co-pays, and deductibles whose life will measurably get worse as a result of this one big, ugly bill.
Vice President J.D. Vance said, don't worry about that because it's all about the deportation machine.
Brilliant.
I'm sold.
Gonna cut Obamacare, build a big deportation machine.
Also, note the scaremongering around the ramifications of this.
The premiums are going to go up and all this.
As if the things which feed into one another, as if removing a whole bunch of illegals, therefore improving pay per capita, will not make you richer and more able to afford any bill increase if it even comes about.
Also, wasn't a big part of this preventing illegals from getting access to Medicaid and Obamacare in the first place?
Medical tourism.
I've never heard of that anywhere.
They can't claim state-sponsored medical aid if they're not in the country.
So bye.
But anyway, yeah, so they can, I mean, look at the faces on the back benches there.
They don't look very happy, and I'm glad to see it because I don't want them to be happy because these people are terrible.
They also look tired.
This is the thing.
They're beaten down.
But as you can see, the bill ended up tying in the Senate two probably libertarian Republicans.
I think one of them was Ran Paul.
I don't doubt one of them was Ran Paul.
And then, of course, all of the Democrats to put it basically a tie in the end.
I don't think it's quite finished yet.
But basically...
It was J.D. Vance, was the tiebreaker, as we can see in this headline here.
And it was Congress who I believe should be voting on it today if they've not already jumped straight into the voting.
And it was after this Congress vote, and if it passes through Congress, that Elon Musk was saying that if it has, he'll start his own new party to counter it.
Yeah.
And one of the things, it was J.D. Vance that got it through the Senate because it was tied.
So it was pretty damn close.
But this is going to do some fun things.
And I mean, it's a huge amount of money, but at least a huge amount of money being put to the right ends.
So NPR here warn Us, this is going to supercharge immigration enforcement.
And I can't help but read everything the left says, just with the sort of GigaChad image in mind.
It's like, oh, good, this is going to supercharge immigration enforcement.
If you read it all in the voice of Duke Nukem, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly better.
I wish I could do the voice of Duke Nukem.
There's been a small story on the side of this, which is that a man refused to call the police after his wife was deported by ICE.
And the comments on that were like, you're assuming he didn't call it in himself.
Apparently he didn't take his Trump posters down and his flags.
Have you seen the meme of, oh no, I'm really worried about ICE deporting my mother-in-law who lives at, you know, this place who gets off work at 6 p.m.
You know, it sounds very much like that, doesn't it?
But anyway, let's go through some details here.
So this sets aside about $170 billion to support the Trump administration's border and immigration goals, which includes detaining and deporting a record number of people from the US.
So Stephen Miller's having a great day today.
The final bill allocates $45 billion for immigration detention centers, as well as $30 billion to hire more ICE personnel.
$30 billion?
That's unironically going to be an army of ICE personnel for the transport costs and to maintain.
So how's that breaking down in terms of individual compensation?
Because I'm thinking of a very quick and speedy career change.
I will get to that in a minute.
So it also provides $46.5 billion to complete Trump's border wall.
It also sets $5 billion for customs and border protection facilities and $10 billion for border and security initiatives more broadly.
So, you know, you've got to have a little bit of money left over in a pot just in case there's a, you know, a good idea comes up while you're in the middle of deporting millions of Mexicans.
$13.5 billion is put towards reimbursing states and local governments engaging in immigration and border-related enforcement.
So, you know, the good boys in Down in Texas.
It's like you spent a lot of your own money actually maintaining the border of the United States.
You should be recompensated for that.
I mean, Biden wouldn't do that.
And $3 billion is allocated to the Justice Department for immigration-related activities.
Now, if you take all of this in one, this makes the ICE the third largest military power in the world by spending.
United States spends nearly a trillion dollars a year.
China spends $314 billion a year.
And the next largest competitor to that is Russia at $149 billion per year.
Britain is $81 billion a year.
And so, okay, if we just say it's the 30 billion, then they've still got a more well-funded military than Canada.
So it is pretty impressive how much money Donald Trump is committing to border security and deportations.
So I think the left is actually correct to be worried about this from their perspective, obviously.
And the right is actually correct to be cheering this on.
This is what you voted for.
And it looks like you're about to get it.
I mean, it's, I think ICE at the moment gets something like $2 billion a year.
So upping it to $30 billion a year, that's going to be very impressive, and it's going to do a lot of things.
So they are indeed hiring people, obviously, Harry, up to $90,000 a year.
$49,000.
Yeah, $49,000 to $89,000 a year.
Just saying, lads, it would be, you know, if you're looking for a job, they're looking for people to employ.
The market is suddenly booming, as it were.
So, you know, just saying this is an option for you.
Anyway.
I love, you know, in Britain we have the all of our, this candidate must be from a minority ethnic background stuff on our stuff.
I can't wait for when we have deputation officer ads here and it says must be native white British.
I just like, you know, in America, it's like the candidate may not be a foreigner because you'd be deporting yourself.
Anyway, so how is the left taking this?
Well, not brilliantly, right?
The thing is, a lot of them are actually quite annoyed that actually, in a way, democracy has kind of worked here, right?
So you've got AOC, who goes out and she's on the verge of tears.
I don't know whether this is actually going to play.
For some reason, it looks like it's not going to play.
Let me see if I can refresh it quickly.
Or presumably, her abolita is going.
Abuela, I think it is.
Or whatever.
Right, just as a quick thing here, right?
It strikes me as a perpetual indignity that Americans are forced to learn Spanish, right?
In Britain, we don't know any Spanish.
We don't know any Spanish words.
And this is people who regularly go on holiday to Spain.
Yeah, exactly.
A large percentage of our population lives in Spain.
We don't do Spanish, we don't do Portuguese, and we don't do French, but we have some cultural crossover.
Yeah, and don't worry about that, Samson.
That's what I mean.
So it just strikes me as a kind of daily indignity on the Americans that you have to have any engagement with the Spaniards.
Because the Anglosphere's entire engagement with the Spanish world has been to crush it repeatedly in war.
And I actually had to look this up the other day because I wasn't even sure if Britain or England had ever actually lost a battle against the Spanish.
There was one island fortress that they had that we tried assaulting and we'd failed it.
We later went on to win the war.
To be fair though, we do have a historically great military relationship with the Portuguese.
Yes, we do.
We screw over the Spanish.
Yeah, exactly.
Oldest alliance in the world because the positions of Spain and Portugal just haven't changed on the map.
But the point is, no one who speaks English as their first language should ever have to learn a word of Spanish, just as an FYI.
And the fact that you do justifies this mass deportation program.
But anyway, as you can see from Eric here, AOC, for some reason the video isn't playing, came out onto the steps and was just like, oh, I think this is one of the saddest days in modern American history.
Oh, dear.
Obviously, she could only really talk about the welfare spending on it.
But then she took to blue sky and she was like, I don't think anyone's prepared for what they did with ICE.
This is not a simple budget increase.
It's an explosion.
Can you do Duke Nukem voice?
I'm not going to try and Duke Nukem voice.
Do it, Harry.
I could play the Megadeth riff.
I can't do the voice, though.
It's an explosion, making ICE bigger than the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, DA, and others combined.
It is setting up to make what's happening now look like child's play.
Listen, chat, right?
Just tell me if you voted for this, okay?
Because if I were you, I would be voting for this.
This would be exactly what I'd be voting for.
Any thoughts on this so far?
If this isn't all just another case of the Democrats bigging something up and selling it, and then it ends up being a big disappointment, if this is actually as bad as the Democrats think it will be for them, then that's a good thing.
I just don't see how it could be a bad thing, right?
I'm a human tripod, and I only wish for it to be over here soon as well.
Yeah, I know.
It really is a case of, you know, oh, God.
Just look on with jealousy.
I am.
I'm living vicariously through the Americans because they, I mean, like this is such a huge amount of money.
And so AOC is just like, yeah, look, what's happened up until this point is going to be, She's absolutely right.
And then you've got, you know, I've read that one already.
Then you've got the general faces of left-wing media.
They didn't get it.
It writes itself.
It really does.
I know.
I know.
They're not happy.
And if they're not happy, then you should be happy.
Because that means we're getting what we wanted and they didn't get what they wanted.
And that's how things should be.
That's generally how all things should be, in fact.
Because what they want is a palpable evil.
Just to flood your country with foreigners and to make sure that you have no future.
Screw them.
High office in the Mexican government literally want Reconquista of the western seaboard of the United States.
So that's basically a declaration of war.
So it's a good thing that America is going to be kicking all of these people out who are agents for a foreign country.
What was the exact terminology she used as well?
Because it was genuinely shocking.
It's like Mexicans here and in America or something like that.
It's like, right, so integration's off the table.
That's why so much of California has to speak Spanish.
It's conquered land.
That's how it's treated and that's how they believe it to be.
In the same way as we have our enclaves over here where they spray paint no whites on the walls.
You know, they don't see it the way that our liberal elite wish they would see it.
But I mean, who's going to clean their toilets, eh?
That's the question.
But anyway, so I saw a lot of takes on Blue Sky like this.
From George TeKay, the budget bill contains tens of billions to fund an army of 10,000 more ICE agents.
This is a red alert moment for our democracy.
Right.
So democracy, in George TeKay's view, is not what people, when people, you know, getting what they voted for.
It's actually infinite foreigners.
Well, it's a global democracy.
I guess it is.
So you have to include the foreigners.
I guess our democracy.
Although George Teke, given, you know, like what happened to him being held in a camp when he was younger.
That wasn't a Red Letter 12 democracy.
I feel like that might have something to do with his seething resentment towards the American people today.
But remember that he, That was under FDR.
Yeah.
Notice that he said that Trump was the worst president of his lifetime.
It's like Trump is not putting you in a camp.
Trump literally didn't intern you together.
Yeah, because you were foreign.
You know, he literally didn't do that.
But anyway, so Red Alert Moment for Their Democracy, which is more great news.
10,000 ice agents is just...
What a great 4th of July you must be having.
Sorry, John.
It was just thinking, like, you know, under the Democrats, the number of ICE agents has been stagnant.
So we're just bringing it up in line with inflation.
That's a great point.
So, yeah, you've got people being just taken because they've been in America illegally, sometimes for decades.
And this, we won't watch this just for time's sake, but this was genuinely pathetic.
Like, man living in Tennessee for 23 years, nabbed by ICE.
And of course, the news report makes it sound like this is some sort of terrible injustice.
It's like, how was he allowed to just live in a foreign country illegally for 23 years?
He broke the law.
Exactly.
It's like saying he committed a murder in 1980.
Yeah, solid, he's a nice guy now.
Well, that's literally.
Now living in my attic for 19 years complains I'm kicking him out.
That's literally the argument.
He's like, well, he didn't commit any crimes while he was here.
It's like the very nature of him being there is the crime.
And so what?
You know, you should be back in your own country, which is where you belong, not in the United States.
So goodbye.
And then you get some videos of illegals posting themselves to TikTok.
In fact, we will watch this just for the comic relief.
You guys, no one should be going through this.
You guys are so sorry.
We just dropped off my sister to go to work.
I'm just this.
They're taking it.
They're taking it again.
They're taking it again.
Hey!
Can your Abuelan not speak English?
Bloody illegals, man.
I doubt she's ever needed to.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Like, these people should not be in the United States.
It's like, oh, it's amazing.
She butts in halfway through and she still posts it on TikTok.
Still, like, ah, this will convince them.
You can sense the tone of entitlement and anger from the mother.
It's like, no, in foreign.
I mean, I don't even know what she's saying.
But you can tell that this is something that she feels that shouldn't be happening to her.
It's like, you're in the country illegally.
You know, this woman was obviously working illegally, taking a job an American should be doing.
And oh no, ICE have come and got her and they're throwing her out of the country.
Who could be surprised about this?
Why shock this is happening to you?
If I was living illegally in a foreign country and they were like, right, we've got you, I wouldn't be like, oh no, how could this have happened?
You should be expecting it.
Yes, it caught up with me.
Yeah.
Anyway, so you've got plenty of illegals crying on TikTok, which is nice.
They can cry back in, I don't know, Central America, probably, just judging from the look of them.
Anyway, there's the Resistance, and the Resistance is using an app called Ice Block.
And so basically, This is only available for Apple, I'm afraid.
So, you Android users are going to have to go without using this.
Oh my god!
The point is that it's for illegal communities to report sightings of ice so illegals can avoid meeting those areas.
It has the other effect of clearing out illegals from anywhere you want to go.
If you just falsely report that there's an ice agent down at your local restaurant, then actually the tables are nice and empty and you can get a table without any problems.
I feel like going to the swimming pool today.
Exactly.
Suddenly, very few foreigners.
The idea of Eric Cartman getting hold of this is because the lazy river is suddenly a lot less lazy.
So yeah, people have been using this.
As you can see, Chief Trumpster there has been enjoying this app, which I think is a good thing.
And I strongly suggest that you download.
It's impossible to get a reservation here.
How did you manage it?
One trick, baby.
Only for Apple, though, sorry.
Anyway, yeah, so basically, just in sum, I'm really pleased for the Americans on all of this.
It looks like you're actually going to start getting some results.
If the Democrats weren't actually screaming about this, then I would be like, okay, no, they don't feel threatened.
There's nothing serious here.
This has all just been a boondoggle.
But no, actually, it looks like, you know, Lord Commander Stephen Miller is insistent on getting every single Spanish speaker out of the United States, which is superb.
And it looks like the money is actually going to be used to hire you to deport all of these foreign illegals, which, I mean, just spectacular.
And just a quick thing on the alligator alcatraz as well.
Trump decided to visit it, which I just, I love the meme of the alligator alcatraz.
This is superb.
Why not just build a giant detention center in the middle of a swamp?
So it's like, what are you going to do?
Run?
Like, you're going to wait for us to deport you or you end up getting torn apart by alligators.
Safe metal cage?
Yeah.
Bog.
Exactly.
You know, just try your luck, I guess.
In fact, Trump's got a great...
We're surrounded by miles of treacherous swampland, and the only way out, really, is deportation.
He added that he wouldn't want to run through the Everglades for long.
That anyone who attempted to do so would be met by a lot of cops in the form of alligators.
Give them little badges.
Yeah, we've deputized the alligators.
Imagine they've spray-painted the logo on them.
But you got leftists on Twitter being like, I can't believe that they're importing alligators from Texas.
Well, there weren't enough alligators already.
They're called ice agators now.
Yeah.
But you see, I'm just finding out that alligator alcatraz isn't just a stupid name.
They're actually putting alligators around the concentration camp.
So if people try to escape, they'll get eaten alive.
Genuinely evil.
Listen.
That's amazing.
Listen, moron, right?
This is just a video of them relocating an alligator from somewhere else.
They don't need to import alligators to Florida.
No, they've already got enough.
Millions of alligators in Florida, which is why it's the perfect place for an illegal detention center.
But anyway, yeah, so happy 4th of July to my American friends.
I'm so glad you're getting what you vote for.
For all those people who are like, well, democracy can't work.
I'm like, how do you explain alligator alcatraz?
How do you explain all of the crying TikToks of illegals online?
Democracy doesn't work.
Oh, yeah, explain this.
Mexican being eaten by an alligator.
While Trump goes, your only way out was deportation.
Yeah, exactly.
it's either the alligator or the plane basically so all i'm saying is just i Or where he's throwing alligators across the board.
Again, you can get what you vote for if you vote for the right kind of person.
Anyway, some comments.
Matt says, many of these Democrats complaining do not seem to care when Obamacare caused multiple health insurance costs to go up multiple times.
No, of course they don't, because ultimately they want everything to be done by the government.
So the quicker that you're impoverished, the quicker you become a total dependent on the state.
So, you know.
Ryan says, happy 249th anniversary to the greatest breakup text in world history.
American George is best, George.
We deported loyalists to Canada and will deport more.
Apply twice now.
Honestly, I mean, you just need to deport people south, really.
I can't imagine the Canadians in America are that much of a problem.
They don't speak Spanish.
I think there are quite a few new Canadians coming in through the northern border, though.
That's a great point.
I hadn't even thought about that.
You need to enforce them both or find other ways.
Yeah, there you go.
Good point.
Build a northern wall.
Build our vice.
I remember during the first Trump term, in the run-up to that, the Canadians were joking, oh, we'll build a wall ourselves to keep the Americans out.
Do it.
Yeah, go on then.
Go on.
Save us the money, you know.
Or save them the money.
Going to build a big, beautiful wall.
Canada's going to pay for it.
Rory is in Canada right now, and his first tweet was, it's full of Indians.
It's just Indians.
I'm just surrounded by the people.
Is them in Chinese?
I remember there was a fitness YouTuber I watched who's Canadian, Will Tennyson, and there was one video where he was just going to a local gym to check it out, and he was the only white guy in there.
It was Indians and Chinese.
And nobody commented on it, but in the comments underneath, there was just quite a few people going, well, Will, did you notice anything here?
What country did you go to?
Anyway, Glee says, so theoretically, going off spending, ICE could invade Canada and deport their illegals too.
Yes.
Theoretically.
Yeah, I don't actually see why they can't.
Based Ape says, I didn't do it.
I did not.
Hi, Mark.
And Fleet Lord Advar says...
I don't.
Yeah.
Every time.
249-year condolences from Fleet Lord Advar.
Well, thank you very much.
To be honest with you, right?
The American Revolution really doesn't figure in British history.
We were busy oppressing the rest of the world.
And to their benefit.
To their benefit.
For our benefit.
Until it costs too much.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, let's carry on.
All right, so nice things happening in America, hopefully.
Presumably, things will go well in America.
Bad things in England.
Always bad things going on in England because we have this funny thing.
This happens in America as well, but it's particularly bad in England recently.
Where for some reason we have this split of domestic and foreign politics, and the foreign politics is always what takes focus and always what people care about.
And domestic politics just kind of goes by the wayside for the most part.
So just as a catch-up on domestic politics right now, so Rachel Reeves broke down weeping like a baby in parliament the other day, but she's saying she's cracking on with the job because it was only a personal issue that caused it, which it makes it all the more better, right?
Was it that personal issue that she was shit at her job?
Sorry, Length.
I can only imagine so.
Did you watch the parliamentary question time?
I watched the whole thing, right?
Kemi Badenock is going at her savagely.
Absolutely savagely.
She's not going to be at her job by the end of the week, is she?
And you can see Rachel Reeves is just like, the pressure is building up, and then the tears start going down.
So she was bullied into crying.
Mean girl Kemi Badenock bullied her into tears.
I'm not joking.
And the thing is, Badenock was savage.
She was absolutely, she's leaning over, literally pointing at her, you know, and she's got this, you know, big grin on her face because she knows she's got them.
Didn't she say something along the lines of like, she's only the shield for his incompetence as well.
Because the thing is, Badenock was clearly enjoying herself because she knew she had them because they've got nothing, you know, they're absolutely trashed at this point.
Yeah, but obviously like the British pound dropped after this.
And what you say, because I didn't watch the full thing, that sounds like it's probably right, which means that you can drive the Chancellor to tears just by bullying her on television in front of who knows how many people.
Or alternatively, if she just has a bit of a personal thing going on the background, she will also break down crying in front of the entire world.
So, you know, markets, stability, that's going to be great.
Either one's great for it, right?
I mean, I'm waiting for Dan to set up the Chancellor's Tears Index Fund that basically tracks that.
Well, I mean, apparently, Dan keeps going very hard at Rachel Reeves recently.
So apparently, Dan could very easily make her cry as well.
I love it.
First female Chancellor of the Exchequer, and she's there in tears in Parliament.
It's like, oh, God.
What else are Labour doing along with this for the domestic policy?
Well, they've decided that they want to put a wind turbine in your back garden.
So this is a nice fun one.
So he's unveiled plans to make it easier for homeowners to install wind turbines in their gardens as a mass expansion of green power.
The aim is to make it easier for farmers, people living in semi-detached houses, and business owners to install the machines on their land.
So right now, you are allowed to have them without planning permission if you have a detached house.
You can put them in your back garden or on your roof.
So you have to get planning permission, which is what we have to do in England.
You have to put in an application for formal planning permissions.
The Americans have to as well.
Yeah.
So if you want to get, say, a conservatory in your garden, if you just want to extend your living room a bit, planning permission.
You want to put up a massive bloody wind turbine, a mini wind turbine, go for it.
Don't worry about it, bro.
And your next door neighbours, and now your semi-detached house, if these plans go through, your next door neighbour, you basically share a garden with a thin bit of wood between the two of them.
Just going to have to deal with it.
My neighbours would spurg out.
I feel like Ed Miliband just disappears for long periods of time, but whenever he pops up, it's with the worst idea humanly possible at that particular point.
And you know who's going to actually exploit this, right?
Because if you think about who would actually want a wind turbine in their garden...
Because it's not exactly a huge...
Bellens.
Yeah.
But also like...
There's that side of things.
And they'll also plaster your garden with dead birds that have flown into the blades.
But think about who's buying up properties and then renting them out.
Well, I'm sure BlackRock doesn't care.
Yeah, but also as part of this, I've forgotten that I covered this back when he announced it.
But as part of these same plans, he also wanted to increase the size at which you could build wind turbines.
I'm 100-foot-tall wind turbine in my garden.
No, no, no.
800-foot.
Oh, my gosh.
Six-foot wind turbines, three times the Statue of Liberty.
How much do they cost?
So there were plans under the Tories right before they got kicked out of government to ban onshore wind turbine farms, so they had to be offshore.
As soon as they got in, Labour scrapped that.
So now they want these 886-foot wind turbines, which I don't know what the environmental costs of actually building that and putting it together are going to be and if it's going to be offset.
Like, also, I don't know what's the actual ratio of size to efficiency of a wind turbine?
Is it literally just the bigger it is, the more energy it generates?
I don't know, but I'm thinking.
Because it's just a big blade turning in the wind.
How much more efficient could it get?
All I'm thinking is if your neighbours have been pissing you off, basically you get one of these three Statue of Liberty tall turbines.
But what's the limitation on the size of the ones?
But then you connect it to gargantuan floodlights, right?
In their bedroom.
In all directions.
I mean, screw them.
Like, you know, just if your neighbours have been pissing you off, well, the government has given you license to be maliciously compliant here.
I'm doing this for the environment.
Thank you.
Yeah, and apparently you were trying to build 2,500 of these in the next five years.
I just feel like it's going to end up featured on a history channel like green megastructures episode at some point in history when it's all dilapidated and fallen down, you know?
Can I interrupt this very quickly?
Sorry, I can't help but notice, right, whenever I see pictures of the Labour Cabinet, they just strike me as the cast of like a sitcom of like a failing primary school or something.
You want the office, the UK office specifically music in the background.
Yeah, yeah, but of like a failing primary school.
So you've got Kier Starmer and Rachel Reeves because one of the students like scrawled something about her that was mean on the walls and she cried.
She cried in front of the class.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and Ed Miliband is going to figure out how they can turn around their declining fortunes, and he's got a plan.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
They just seem like comically stupid and like something out of a parody.
So I can't believe these people are in charge of our country.
And they do look like they're already spitting image versions of themselves in the market, right?
Yeah, he does.
He looks like a puppet.
But funnily enough, this article ends off with this little sentence here, which says: you know, David Cameron, he was an early adopter of domestic wind power and had a three-grand mini turbine mounted on the roof of his home in Kensington in 2007.
However, it had to be removed after complaints from his neighbours.
Amazing.
What a surprise.
Incredible.
What else are we getting domestic right now?
Well, a new report from MPs and the Public Accounts Committee has determined the most unsurprising discovery ever that the Home Office don't check when foreign work visas expire.
Why would they?
Yeah, why would they?
I mean, if their diversity is our strength, why would we want them leaving anyway?
There was a strange statistic that I came across a few years ago, which was about the number of speed cameras in the UK, right, which are turned on at any given point.
And it's really low, right?
Like it's like 10, 20% sort of thing.
And a lot of them are there just for sort of because they can't enforce all the fines, basically.
It just takes too long and bureaucracy and all of this.
So this doesn't surprise me, but again, with everything, with absolutely everything, it's like two-thirds of grooming gang victims do not have the ethnicity of the perpetrator recorded and things like that.
You know, I know I'm chucking in different elements here, but it's all government bureaucracy.
And it's all because of this issue that they're lazy, they can't enforce it, they're not collecting the right information, and they don't want to.
It's completely useless.
95% of burglaries just don't get investigated.
Yes.
Oh, right.
So it's essentially legal.
We've got a solution for that now that's suggested in here, which is the techno-globalist state, the government plans to install biometric tests in the workplace to check whether an individual is living and working in the UK legally via their fingerprints.
It's Gattaka.
Literally.
Oh, yeah.
So you have to do the biometric thumbprint scan every time you go into work under new plans because the Home Office is too lazy to actually check that people are leaving after their visas expire.
What do they call them in Gattaka?
It's something like inferiors or something, isn't it?
Yeah.
Basically people who would not test you, babies.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't remember the exact name for it now.
And what do people talk about on the main stage?
What do people talk about in the mass media?
What do all the popular big people talk about?
Do they talk about this?
Do they talk about normal peoples, bell-end neighbours, installing a wind turbine that dwarfs the Statue of Liberty in their back garden?
God.
No.
On the Rolling Stones Awards, you get dickheads from bands like Fontaine DC just making it about Palestine.
Oh, that's that's all they that's all they care about.
That's all it is.
Working people, what are they?
What are they?
These people on the Mediterranean, a thousand miles away, they're who I care about.
Working people are the problem because they pay taxes to the state that sends weapons to Israel.
That's true.
Yeah, I'm softening to the whole Israel-Palestine debate, but I'll explain that later.
All right.
Just leave that out there.
And I've got to say as well, it's frustrating when you see, like, this was such a big news story at the beginning of the week, and I didn't really get to comment on the podcast, but I saw this guy play Bob Villain back in 2022 at a gig in Brixton, which is the same gig coming out of it that I saw a little corner shop in Brixton get robbed.
It was an ethnic corner shop being robbed by little drill rappers.
So nobody in the whole process other than me, the bystander, was actually from England in any meaningful way.
But I remember this guy was the support act of a punk band that I was seeing that my missus likes.
And the first song that he played when he came on was the You Want Your Country Back, Shut the F up, You Can't Have That, blah, blah.
And I was just stood there aghast.
Yeah.
Like, I was shocked.
I was like, what am I watching right now?
Did the producers know he was going to sing this sort of thing?
Yeah, it was like, and the entire crowd, which was basically all white people, was cheering along.
He kept making, and all of his songs were like that.
He kept making anti-white, anti-English statements in between the songs.
I'm sure his white English mum is very, very proud of him.
But that was fine.
That was fine.
That got him onto Glastonbury.
And it's when he talks about Israel and the IDF that all of a sudden he gets his visas cancelled.
So it's nice to know the priorities of people like on the one side, you get the people who don't care about the working people, who pretend they care about the working people, who actually only care about a bunch of Palestinians.
And on the other side, you get the people who don't care about the working people.
They don't care about our problems.
They just care about people saying they want violence on a foreign military force.
It's very nice to feel like the government and those in power care about me.
It's worse, though.
Like, he's not like, if he was just indifferent, that'd be one thing.
But his songs, I listened to a bunch of his songs.
They're just like, I hate white men.
I hate Britain.
I hate the country.
I hate the people.
I hate the history.
I hate everything about it.
And you're not having it back.
There's that line from the song where he's like, oh, it's not even a land that belongs to you anyway.
It's like, what do you, are you like a Celtic nationalist or something?
Are you really for Cornish independence?
It's going back 1,500 years now.
Yeah, what does that mean?
Because I tell you, Africans didn't build England, no matter what Rishi Sunak wants you to believe.
There's also the difference in the approach between the US and the UK.
You'll notice the US has done something tangible.
His visa's been cancelled.
The UK have said, we've launched a criminal probe, which will return in six months' time.
It'll just be like with NECAP, where they come out and they're like, kill your local MP and dig up Hamas and Hezbollah or whatever they said.
They didn't name the MP and therefore he can't be charged.
Is it just like, okay, yeah, that's not incitement?
But, you know, kill Whitey, kill Whitey, kill Whitey.
That's fine.
They got paid for that.
That's what got fine.
Yeah, the government's like, oh, but the anti-Semitic sentiments.
It's like the Kill the Boer chant, isn't it?
Yeah.
They're just like, oh, but it's clearly simple.
It's symbolic.
It's representative of the struggle against.
If Lucy Connolly had put it in a song, she wouldn't be where she is right now.
I just hate it as well because, like, it's an army.
You know, it's not like, oh, not killing some civilians.
No, it's an army that's currently actively engaged.
Feel like, kill the Russian army.
No, what?
So who cares?
You know, if I, you know, I support Ukraine, therefore kill the Russian army.
Everyone's like, sure.
You know, what else do you think the Ukrainian army's trying to do?
Anyway, sorry, I'll tell you.
and the politicians in government, like Jeremy Corbyn.
He's not in government.
Well, he's in parliament.
He's in parliament.
He's one of the five independent Gaza MPs who've been trying to put forward an independent tribute.
It's interesting the kind of inquiries, because Jeremy Corbyn put a bill through Parliament, has tried to get a bill through Parliament that I think is being looked at today.
It's being trying to get tabled.
Backing an official inquiry into whether the IDF has committed war crimes as determined by international humanitarian law and whether the UK government in funding them has a role to play in that.
So that's the only kind of inquiry Jeremy Corbyn cares about.
There have been other inquiries called for recently that he didn't pipe up on because they were against his constituents.
Well, it's just completely in line with his history as a politician.
Yeah.
Supporting every terrorist group.
And if this bill doesn't get through, then they're going to try and do an independent tribunal instead.
Presumably, that will be fielded by his new party.
His new party.
Here's Jeremy Corbyn, big business, on his way to do very serious politics.
Is he actually doing a party then?
Because Zara Sultana left the Labour Party yesterday saying, I'm joining Jeremy Corbyn's party.
And Jeremy Corbyn's like, well, let's, because the reporting so far points to the whole thing already being a complete nonsensical and confused mess that nobody knows what's going on.
So the rumours are actually coming from an ally of Jeremy Corbyn.
Corbyn himself has not made a public statement on this yet, but the ally and allies, plural, in this article, say that he's launching a new hard left party to fight labour across Britain.
And upon these rumours and statements from allies going out, Zara Sultana, who'd already been suspended and the whip taken off of her, decided to immediately resign and jump on board and make a big public statement about it, saying, Jeremy and I will co-lead the founding of a new party with other independent MPs, campaigners, and activists across the country.
A year ago, I was suspended by Labour for voting to abolish the two-child benefit cap and lift 400,000 children.
I'm such a good person.
I'm such a good person.
Labour just stopped me from being a good person.
Bloody bloody blah.
And across the political establishment from Farage the Stama, they smear people of conscience trying to stop a genocide in Gaza as terrorists.
But the truth is clear.
Active participants in genocide.
Bloody bloody blah.
Jeremy Corbyn, while not making a statement about all of this, it has been reported that he's furious and bewildered that people are making these announcements without his say-so and that Zara Sultana has just immediately jumped on and said, I'm co-leader of the party, actually.
Jeremy Corbyn is 76 years old, so I believe that he's furious and bewildered.
From the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to bed, really.
That's a ripe old age.
He's been in parliament since 1983.
Yeah, so if there is a new party, it's as yet unnamed.
But it is funny that if there is a new party, it seems to mainly on the left be centered around Palestine.
Not, again, not like domestic problems, not Britain, not British labour.
Not British problems, no, not British labour or anything like that.
But it could lead to complete labour death.
Oh, good.
Total labour death, because polls are showing that if a new left-wing party, and if Jeremy Corbyn showed one thing back in 2017, it's that he can get the youth vote behind him.
He can, yeah.
Fair play to the guy.
If the new left-wing party started, it could win up to 10% of the vote, right?
Which would be a major blow to Labour, who would then tie with Tories on 20%.
So if he actually went ahead with this and Zara Sultana got the new Labour constituents to vote for this instead, and Jeremy Corbyn got all of the youth Labour constituents to vote for them, what we could be looking at is 2029 Labour Zero seats.
Yes.
With Tories taking the same approach as well, if reform don't implode before then.
Yeah, all Farage has to do is just not screw it up.
Literally, if Corbyn did this, I think what he would be doing is paving the way to Farage's prime minister.
Farage is already essentially the Prime Minister in waiting.
What I'm more curious about is who the opposition is going to be.
So I'm thinking, like, my dream, my little dream is Farage gets in and Lowe is leading opposition, right?
And then it goes, and then clearly everyone gets disenfranchised with Farage, but no one's going back to the old parties and Lowe could just take over.
That's another thing.
I mean, the left-wing vote is already really split in this country anyway, right?
Because you've got the Lib Dems, you've got the Greens, you've got the SNP, you've got Play Cymru, you've got whatever this is going to be, you've got the Independent Jezbala.
Yeah, Jezbolla.
So it's already really, really split.
Everyone complains about splits on the right, but the left has got loads of splits already.
And if Jeremy Corbyn is just going to set up another, essentially, what is it, just the Green Party, it's like Islamo-Communist Party.
Good, suck up the Muslim vote, I guess, because they're only 7% of the population.
So where do you think you're going on that?
Yeah, and frankly, with all of the outrage that the stuff going on between Israel and Palestine, Gaza, everything that goes on always generates, especially with the younger voting constituents and the foreigners that are in our midst now that can vote.
There's not going to be any lack of things for them to be outraged about, which will draw them over to a more single-issue party like this if it goes ahead.
Because already you're constantly getting reports of things like Gaza aid contractors telling the BBC that some of their colleagues fire on Palestinians when they're going to pick up aid from them.
There is a ceasefire deal that may go ahead, but There was one in March that got broken anyway.
And then even if this goes ahead, even if they do get a ceasefire, maybe there's peace.
Not for very long, because already you have Well, I mean, if Netanyahu doesn't.
If the wars end, Netanyahu gets tried under the various crimes that he was alleged to have committed in the first place, which all of a sudden the war sprang up and made it so that I'm a war prime minister now.
You can't charge me with anything.
Well, the other thing is that Netanyahu is sitting there and supposedly, it's coming out of polling during a war period, so take it as a pinch of salt, but supposedly half of Israel is in favour of just glassing the entire Gaza Strip, like all of it.
Before the war, wasn't Netanyahu's polling going down as well?
Yeah, yeah, he was very unpopular.
There was rebellions against him within his own coalition.
This war is basically the only thing keeping it all together and keeping him in power.
And if they do get a ceasefire, well, good news for Netanyahu, his ministers are already putting forward petitions to completely annex the West Bank.
So if this, if you've got peace in Gaza and people go, okay, finally, the UK government isn't funding a genocide, blah, blah, blah.
Then later on in this month, if this actually happened, which it seems that people are trying to push him to because it says here, Prime Minister's office hasn't commented.
The letter has been welcomed by senior governmental figures.
We know that they want the West Bank anyway.
They want all of that territory under Israel because they see it as historically theirs.
Then all of a sudden, this becomes the new Gaza.
Jeremy Corbyn has more outrage to suck up Labor votes.
Which would be interesting.
Whereas again, I find it pretty horrifying that all of our domestic politics has to be based around all of this in the first place.
It's insufferable, isn't it?
Because of all people, this clip's been going around of Aaron Bastani talking to Matt Goodwin on GB News, where he was pointing out, like, maybe instead of being friends of Israel first and foremost, maybe instead of being for and against all of these different things in the Middle East, maybe just care about your constituents.
Yeah, but the thing is, he's going to go out and support Jezboller.
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised, but in principle, in principle, what he is saying is absolutely true, which is that there should be a centering of domestic politics, domestic issues.
I mean, at the very least, Bastani does the thing that we do every so often, which is go around local towns and film them and go, this is a shithole.
What happened?
Beefsteak Bastani strikes again.
But he does need to also point out when it's just a row of Turkish barbers.
Yes.
But the point being, like, Jezpuller's going to be no different.
He's going to end up supporting them because they'll have basically a communist platform of communism.
And he'll be like, I'm for communism.
I wrote a book on it.
And so how did he get the better of Matt Goodwin here, basically?
Well, Matt Goodwin wasn't willing to say that, yes, we should just put domestic issues above Israel first and foremost.
It just seemed to be that Matt Goodwin got very nervous and shaky.
Really?
You can say that you can have allies in countries in the Middle East and countries like that, but it seemed that putting your own issues first and foremost when it came to that particular country was a bit nerve-wracking for him.
There's a weird thing.
It's like that Tucker Carlson gotcha moment that went round with who was it?
He was interviewing who he basically got on to say, we're supporting Israel in the war effort.
Ed Cruz, Ed Cruz.
And that was a kind of gotchery moment, right?
But that shook things around because that's a politician making a definitive statement that impacts international relations.
So you can understand why Matt Goodwin's sitting there going like, I don't want to say anything that this is going to bite me later on.
I think it would have been a fairly easy pivot to just remove.
It should have been.
Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, Britain should come first in the minds of British politicians, but then secondarily to that, we're allies with Israel.
of foreign interest.
Yeah, like that would have been a especially when you've got absolute burk-headed retards like this pink-headed twat here going on.
That's how I can really feel that.
I saw these guys play live once as well, and they were dull as dishwater.
Really?
Anyway.
Yeah, let's get some comments.
There's some resentment there.
Go on.
People kept telling me they're going to be really good, and they were really boring.
Happy treason day to my wonderful Lambie brothers across the pond.
Keep up the good fight.
Thank you.
If you wish to know who rules over you, find out who you're not allowed to criticise.
I don't even know.
I don't know who that came from.
People keep saying it's Voltaire, but I don't think it is.
Jub says, Corbyn is an idiot who doesn't realise a nuclear deterrent doesn't work if you say you'll never use it.
Yeah, do you remember?
Corbyn's like, I will never use nuclear deterrent.
It's like, there's not a deterrent.
Corbyn, you're fucking moron.
Locks on my doors, well, I'll never use them.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, to the criminal.
Tom, you can say that Heinonianism is a credible alternative, and I agree, but if that's not on the table, then we're not going to get it.
So, you know, we can enjoy the idea as much as we like, but we've got to deal with what we're actually dealing with.
Anyway, let's move on.
Do you need one of these, Mark?
do indeed there's my You passed it.
What did Shookman mean by this?
Oh, this is wonderful.
Who's the rat in this equation, Mr. Shookman?
I spent a year in the far right.
Let's have a look, see.
So we have, yes, Year of the Rat by Harry Shuckman.
Undercover in the British far right.
Important and courageous James O'Brien.
So it's important.
I cannot escape him.
It's important to note that James O'Brien is one of the 18 people who've purchased this book.
That's 1-8 over its entire history.
This novel, I'm going to call it, rather than an expose.
Fictional dramatization.
The rat in this situation is Shuckman himself.
He characterizes himself as the rat.
He does it himself.
Yes.
He calls himself the rat in this situation, where he has ratted out these far-right organizations.
He goes through a number of them.
So, just as a quick reminder, who is Harry Shuckman?
So, Harry Shuckman is.
I don't even know if he's like an official employee or if he was brought in, but he's ostensibly a journalist who works with Hope Not Hate.
They obliterated his entire digital footprint in order to infiltrate the Basket Weavers, which is an organization I'm very proud to promote on this show.
He has suspiciously easy access to fake passports.
He does.
You did point that out, didn't you, at the time?
I think that was Connor who pointed that out and seemingly not charged for it, despite it being a crime.
Indeed.
So he basically obliterated his cultural footprint, his digital footprint.
He adopted a new identity.
He started living somewhere else.
He had like a fake job and a fake name.
And he turned up to beer and mini golf tournaments and said, oh no, the far right has come home to coast in the UK.
Seems like a lot of work to go for a beer and place a mini golf.
It was very distressing, right?
So apparently it's easy to make friends these days.
You can tell throughout this entire book, throughout the entire book, I've only read excerpts, to be clear, but he's really got a massive hard on for this.
It's really exciting for him, right?
He thinks it's like bonds.
He's doing espionage and stuff like that.
And this is a secret organization and there are thousands of them and I'm going to bring them all down.
18 people read the book.
It's not very interesting.
Where did you get that?
Is that true?
It's just 18 people?
That's the number of reviews on Amazon.
Right, so let's assume it's a 10 to 1, right?
For every 10 people who read it that one, but even then, 180.
And that's just purchases, it's not necessarily read.
British far-right is working to dismantle our democracy one put at a time.
That's what I want to talk about.
Like, again, it's our democracy.
They understand that the international liberal order is being dismantled by nativist governments.
As in, people vote, say, you know, I actually don't want to just give up my country to every foreigner on earth and some weird international cabal.
And he's like, right, well, that's it.
I need to sacrifice everything, infiltrate the basket weavers who are the masterminds behind all of this.
Yeah, and in 2024, summer riots swept England.
How could you organize all of that yourself, Mark?
That was very evil of you.
What's that, Harry?
Why did the riot sweep in England, Mr. Shookman?
You know, what happened?
Basket weaving.
Just doesn't know.
It was just basket weaving.
So there's this whole thing, right?
Far-right activity takes many other forms as well as street violence, all of them dangerous.
All of them.
All of them.
Going to the pub is dangerous, people.
So for those of you who don't know, the Basket Weavers is apparently clandestine organization, even though it has its own website, its own Twitter account.
It's always been openly promoted.
It's just promoted in the circles of people who would be interested for it.
But we've never made a secret of hiding it.
The number of informational points that Mr. Shuckman gets incorrect about the organizational structure of the thing is also flabbergasting.
He names me as the founder of it.
Now, I founded the London.
I thought you were going to say he named me as the Fuhrer of it.
The Fuhrer of it.
The Shadow Fuhrer of England.
That's me.
But he named me as the founder of it.
Now, I founded the London basket weaving chapter, and I founded, heavily promoted it through my speech, which he draws a lot from in the book about setting it up at the first Shieldings conference, I believe.
Oh, no.
You were there.
And it's, you know, basket weavers is an organization that wants to appeal to like three different groups of people on the right.
You know, there's like the fitness bros who love to do their hiking and, you know, they want to establish an order of the peak sloggers or something like that, right?
You've got the sort of general sort of public, I suppose, in the sense of like they just want to have a pint and talk about things in a non-judgmental atmosphere and go to some nice like not on my one and go to some nice events and stuff like that.
And then we've got the and the culture side.
So there's like book clubs and the like.
So you can see like, here's an example of like this is the London basket weavers for last month.
You know, there's an event on at least once a week and they appeal to different elements.
Where's the Mein Kampf recitals?
Yeah, exactly.
Like where's the chanting?
Where's the destruction of the minorities sort of speeches and things like that?
It don't exist, right?
It's very dangerous.
This stuff is just socialization.
And again, so he lists in the book that the Beowulf Foundation is this shadowy like umbrella organization that owns the basket weavers and also runs shieldings and does all these other things, which is also quite far from the truth.
Now, Beowulf helped set up the Basket Weaver server.
They've been around for like seven years.
They help a number of different organizations, Imperium Press and so on, to operate, and they're really wonderful guys.
But they're actually like the shadowy hand of Beowulf.
They're also the least intimidating guys actually.
The Scandinavians like shadowy hand is with the British far right.
Just like insane.
They're just some friends who helped us out.
Absolutely insane.
But Year of the Rat was not very successful.
So they wrote this.
The Basket Weavers.
Inside the biggest far-right group you've ever heard of.
And I decided to basically do us all up like sort of MK Ultra portraits.
I don't know what it is, but it looks kind of...
These are all the people I've murdered, according to...
Jokes, jokes.
Just look like fairly normal people smiling for photos.
They're just attending parties.
They're attending events.
Much like the Shieldings Conference, most of the time, there's like an informal dress code that's not properly enforced.
But like a slob.
People don't turn up like a slob, right?
And they have a good time and they're going to talk about interesting things.
There's a couple of pages I'm going to highlight here.
I'm not going to go through the whole thing because it's frankly full of lies.
But here we have this image here.
Who are the basket weavers?
Who's it encapsulating?
Who is this appealing to?
This idea of organizing with one another.
And mostly it's people between sort of the ages of 25 and 45.
And, you know, but we don't have an age limit or anything like that.
But they turn up and talk about their politics.
And they're just happy to have people who are, you know, of a similar bent around them, essentially.
But they're also living life.
And this is the thing which Barcelona Weevers was always about for me, was about giving people proper lives.
Because whenever we did anything in public, whether it was your Sagan of a CAD live shows, Count Dankula's comedy gigs, any of the stuff that we did years ago, basically, everyone said, this is much better.
This has made memories.
This is something which is worth doing.
And I'm making friends.
And from my perspective, as someone who founded a chapter, what I wanted to do was bring people together to have people they could rely on so that when times are difficult, when we hit a recession, when things are depressing or you need someone to sleep on the sofa of, you'll have those people there.
And my fond hope was that people would move beyond their internet names and start talking like real people and become real friends and forge real relationships.
And I'm very happy to say that in a number of cases, that has happened.
Honestly, you make it sound an awful lot more soppy than I need to make this more Chad.
Okay.
Hang on a minute.
I mean, look at this.
Mark Horton took the stage at the secretive Far Right Skildons Conference in 2021.
All of that was uploaded to YouTube.
The tickets are on sale to the public.
Yeah.
Yeah, but not only are the tickets on sale to the public, but all of it was uploaded to YouTube anyway.
You could also purchase a book containing all of the speeches.
Yes.
Like, the idea that he thinks this is secretive is a very good thing.
And a very strange image of Carl drawn in it.
Well, the thing is, right, like, with all of this, is he really, really wants us to be like, I don't know, villain.
Quantum from James Bond or something, right?
He wants us to be this sort of organization.
There was a report on a different organization, stress different organization, right, of like thugs on the Welsh border who were like gathering weapons and doing MMA classes and wanting to go out and club minorities.
And they were caught on camera saying this.
Right?
Right?
It was reported on the BBC at some point.
But he desperately wants us to be that, or like the masterminds controlling groups like that.
And it's just not true.
It's mostly normal people who just want nice, normal friends with sensible politics.
And this is a platform with which to get to those people.
Importantly as well, it's not just UK-based, it is global.
And it is, you know, there's thousands of members now worldwide.
Thankfully, as a result of this report, we had over 500 new applications, which was great because, as I say, we've got 1,300 registered UK members, we've got 1,100 registered UK abroad members as well, a lot of them in the US.
And they organise from all over the shop.
So whether or not you can meet once a month or once a week, you know, there's some memories.
Because at the end of the day, you'll remember that much more than whatever show you binge-watched on Netflix.
I do have to address one thing in this report because people will bring it up otherwise.
Over the course of the year of infiltration that this man, Harry Schuckman, did, he did manage to uncover one WhatsApp group that he was invited to be a part of, where some people posted very stupid photos of themselves doing Roman salutes and believing themselves to be very funny doing it.
But of course, horrendous optics.
If you are a member of the Basket Weavers or a potential wanting to be a member of the Basket Weavers, do not do this.
Do not do this.
It's not that funny.
You're not German.
You're not Nazis and it's not funny.
As I understand it, they were playing a game called Secret Hitler.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's really easy to not get photographed.
Yes.
Shockingly easy.
And it's even easier not to have it published online or in group chats as well.
Exactly.
So just covering that, I'd also like to point out that apparently a number of people are members of this organization who have happened to turn up to an event once or twice because they've been invited.
Because again, networking opportunities abound within the basket weavers, you know, and some of these things are nice.
So poor Dan is circled with his lovely grapefruit red thing.
I get my violent looking Lotus Eaters profile picture.
I like it.
I'm a misogynist influencer.
I've got dated ones.
I'm doing so many more things than merely a misogynist.
Aren't you a pickup artist now as well?
So that's the idea.
You never call me that.
Does anybody ever call Carl that?
There was something where they tried to call you a wannabe PUA or something.
Really?
Yeah, I think I remember reading that.
Anyway, now you've got Luca Johnson, who you clearly took in under your wing purely because he was a basket weaver and the secretive.
That was actually his extremism.
I love just how normal you guys look.
Just like completely normal lads.
Do you remember having that hair, Harry?
Yeah.
I prefer this.
So yes, so there's this report.
It's full of lies about various things that have gone on.
It's mostly focused on the Basket Weavers.
It does go into the fact that he attended a number of other conferences of potentially more extreme groups than us.
But Basket Weavers is open to join if you wish to join it.
You can join it at basketweavers.net.
It's a community building service.
It's a platform.
All we do is allow you to find local people with the same interests that you.
And we've got, as I say, over 2,000 members needs updating now.
But it's Exciting, and if there is not a weave near you, which is what we call these little meetups, I strongly encourage you to form one.
There's a lot of interest right now, and I'll just relay the story of my first weave.
Which is, I turned up to London and I said, I'm going to start this basket weaving thing.
And I organized a hike, and one guy turned up to this hike in Epping.
I thought no one was going to turn up.
I turned up to the train station.
I posted about it in the thing, and some guy said, Yeah, I'll come to that and turned up.
And from there, we had a lovely chat, and then he organized the next event, and we had three people at that next event, and then it grew and grew and grew, and now is like 40 or 50 regular members at London Weave.
So, and as you saw from the calendar earlier, you know, they're putting on multiple things per week to whatever tickles your fancy.
As a part of the broader, you can also contact Basketweavers on X, by the way.
As part of the broader discussion of this, though, I do want to point out that this sort of feels like a strange moment in time because Hope Not Hate went hard on this.
You know, they posted a big thing about us.
They've published a book against us.
They've published this big smear piece against us.
We've only had positive press from it.
We've only had positive reactions.
There are a couple of people saying, you know, seems a bit anti-Semitic, bro, to which I responded, it's all lies.
You know, it's not something that I've come across personally within the purview of it.
And we don't exclude anyone.
You know, the part of that hit piece contained a number of images of a group of people from diverse backgrounds, shall we say, and them saying that, by the way, they're trying to establish a whites-only community in Britain.
Nonsense.
But this era of cancellation seems to be over because, again, Home Not Hate have protected all of their tweets.
No one can respond to anything that they've put up, basically.
No comments, no comments.
Sick of getting ratioed.
One comment.
And they're not really getting that much traction.
Now, Home Not Hate is not the only organization that goes out of their way to try and cancel people, but it's one of the most prolific.
It's one of those who already have their hand, fist, and elbow all the way up the governmental backside when it comes to, for instance, selecting candidates for different political parties.
I wonder what political parties check with hope, not hate.
Which includes Labour, the Conservatives, Reform.
And Reform deselected, as we're well aware here, Beau and Dan, was it?
As candidates because of their ties to this organisation and their outspoken views on particular issues, which the public resonate with.
Writing about Reform's own migration policies.
Yes.
But what we do notice is that occasionally they hit on something in the cultural side, guys.
So people are interested in Rupert Lowe at the moment.
So they've posted this, how low will Rupert Lowe go?
Lowe is Britain's most extreme MP, 33,000 impressions there, which means that 34 likes.
But it's got 34 likes.
Similarly, the Basket Weavers, I think it got something like 400,000 views or something like that.
And I had 32 likes.
Or 52 in the end.
It was abysmal.
And so understanding that this period that we're in now is one where the opportunity to build new things is now nigh.
You know, the baseline is there.
There are a number of institutions that now exist on the right, parallel institutions, if you will.
You know, we've got the event company with shieldings.
There's basket weavers for your socialization.
You get your news through alternate platforms, including Lotus Eaters.
There's the Academic Agency or Lotus Eaters courses if you want education.
And the Free Speech Union will help protect you if you're part of them.
So what ends up happening is that whilst the rest of general politics are becoming obsessed with the Israel-Palestine conflict, they're obsessed with their own parties fracturing, they're obsessed with the legacy media ripping apart their new budgets and also pointing out their hypocrisy, all of these things mean that the eye of Sauron, if you want to call it that, is not on sensible right-wing politics.
And therefore, sensible right-wing politics should be and is doing new things.
So I would strongly advise you, if you want to get involved with anything, now is really the time to sort of get going because their attacks have no strength in them.
They have no power.
They're too distracted.
This is why I said earlier that I was softening towards the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Because I see that as in the same way that other organizations, reform is containment for the right.
In the same way as that, Israel-Palestine is containment for all of mainstream politics whilst we get on and raise nationalist or national sentiment, British identity here.
And wherever you happen to be, if you're watching this, whatever sentiment of your own place.
That's an interesting take.
Do I have any other...
I read it the other day.
They're just whining that Rupert Lowe's based.
I expected that.
That's literally all it is.
They put black bars over his eyes at any point.
No, no, they gave him glowing eyes, you can see.
I like that it makes him out to be a superhero.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I know they want to go shooting exportation beams at foreigners.
Well, that's like he, they're just complaining in it that Rupert Lowe keeps posting extreme hardline positions on his Twitter feed and all these sorts of things that people agree with.
And so it's just literally, they're complaining that he's like the most extreme, most far-right MP.
It's like, look, I already support him.
I don't know what more you want from me.
He joined his movement.
He's created a movement aiming to carpet bomb Wokeeria that has attracted the support of Elon Musk.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
Uh-huh.
That's great.
Right?
It's like, having described reform as a protest party led by the Messiah, it's like, which is true.
He's now forming his own thing.
And again, Farage and Lo are both aged men, but...
Experienced men, sure.
So how time will go is anyone's guess, but I am very, very hopeful for Lowe's impact in politics and his organization's impact in politics.
I mean, this is the end of the Hope Night Hope piece, right?
Whatever comes of it, having a figure as extreme as Lowe in the House of Commons is deeply worrying.
Yeah, to you.
Lowe's ever-growing list of xenophobic comments and hardline positions, coupled with his willingness to openly collaborate with high-profile far-right figures, means he's currently the most extreme MP in Parliament.
What a great end.
That's such good news.
So he's willing to talk to the sensible centre of politics.
Yes.
And he's willing to put his money where his mouth is and do what he says.
If these radical communists are prepared to be like, oh, wow, that guy's a real problem, then this is the guy you want to be supporting, as well.
I'd have to pay for this kind of thing.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not even that he's xenophobic.
He's just local phyllic.
Yeah, he's just normal.
Anyway, Fleet Lord Atvar says, should we get the video comments?
Yeah, no, of course.
Get the video comments up, Samson.
Fleet Lord Atvar says, from the first segment, don't forget the Python invasion that invested southern Florida.
Also, deporting the Arabs, especially those flown here by Peto Pete admin, when USA millions fled Afghanistan without vetting.
Well, a couple of things.
They're not Arabs, if they're coming from Afghanistan.
And for anyone who doesn't know, Peto Pete is what Hunter Biden had Joe Biden in his phone saved as.
Ah, yes.
Oh, yeah.
That's weird.
I do also like the idea that you've escaped from the deportation center.
You've managed to somehow evade the alligators.
And now you've got the wall of pythons.
Yeah.
Yeah, you get crushed to death by a python.
So yeah, good news for people in Florida.
Anyway, let's go to the first video comment.
So tomorrow is the 4th of July.
Happy Independence Day, or as you guys would call it, Happy Treason Day.
So the wife and I decided to come out and enjoy the evening of July 3rd.
We're on Saratoga Lake here in Saratoga, New York.
It's very nice.
By the way, Michael, we received the books that you've sent.
I've given those bogs.
They're kind of historically focused books.
So thank you very much for that.
I get a lot of Americans saying, oh, it's 4th of July Treason Day to you.
It's like, no, it's Friday.
Yes.
We don't.
Honestly, we don't burn an effigy of George Washington for the day or anything.
We just get on with it.
It's Playmate's birthday.
That's all I've known.
I'm really sorry, but it doesn't have any kind of bearing on us at all.
*Mario plays* *Mario plays* *Mario plays* *Mario plays* At least they stopped you in chair.
*Mario plays* *Mario plays*
And now we're just going to get into the.
I mean, are one of those rails electrified as well?
One is, yeah.
Yes.
So lucky you didn't touch the middle rail or whatever.
And then he looked like he was getting angry and arguing with the person trying to help him up as well.
You don't know what he's on.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it being London, like it could be anything.
Like, you can walk down there, you'll see nitrous canisters in the ground and all sorts, you know.
It's very sad.
Those are all the video comments.
Yeah, thank you.
God, that's it.
I just.
Anyway, Furious Dan says, Ice Block is only for iPhone.
Trespasser immigrants can afford iPhones.
Well, a couple of point.
Well, they can, yeah.
Yeah.
They probably get given them by the Biden administration, frankly.
Oh, come to America.
Yeah, yeah.
Here's your iPhone.
You're an American now.
Yeah, Dad.
Here's your iPhones.
And Elon Musk is like, I'm putting Starlink over their countries.
The point with Iceblock is not that the immigrants will do it.
It's that concerned leftists will do it.
So it's on iPhone because of the demographics that use the iPhones being insufferable do-gooders.
Speaking of that, though, did you see that little picture that's been going around recently showing what the access to the internet was like back in 2013?
Yes.
And it was basically just the Anglo-Sphere.
Yeah, it's Europe and Japan.
We didn't know how good we had it.
I know.
They used to be amazing.
If it makes you feel any better, something like 85% of India has yet to receive internet.
I just don't want any of that entire part of the world.
Probably the same with Africa as well.
Africa's an interesting one.
When I was there, you could see the investment, shall we say, of the various big companies.
Coca-Cola was a big one.
Oh, yeah.
Because they ship it there in huge quantities.
But everything is repurposable.
So recyclable.
So you'll have like a box, essentially, like a crate.
But then they fold up and they can cut it out in a certain way and it'll become an umbrella or something like that.
But it's all Coca-Cola branded.
A cardboard umbrella.
I can see a problem with that.
It's like a parasol in the heat or whatever.
But it's more like the big containers, which can get turned into shops and things like that, but they're all Coca-Cola branded.
See, it's like driving through Coca-Cola town in Kenya.
You know, it's quite strange.
So Baron von Moorhawk is here to pour water on the fire.
Alligators are actually pretty unreliable when it comes to predators, as they tend to avoid humans.
Yeah, but who wants to take the risk?
It's the deterrent.
That's where the pythons come in.
It's also like, how many alligators do you go past before one of them decides he's having a grumpy day or he's a bit hungry?
You know, like if you have to go past two alligators, maybe it's worth the risk.
If you have to go past 200 alligators.
He recommends crocodiles.
Apparently there are some already in Florida.
And they actively hunt humans.
Well, that's worrying.
I thought you were on the way to the grocery store.
There's a crocodile following you.
Alex says, if you report an illegal, you should get a $200 payment.
And also, the illegals should have their assets confiscated and have the value given to the reporter.
Anyone found to be employing illegals should also be fined.
Anyone who reports the business should get some money from the fine paid.
Watch the illegals disappear in no time.
Yeah, this is another thing as well.
If you want to make something happen, you've got to financially incentivize it.
Literally, you know, you get $200 for reporting illegal.
That's going to be happening.
If they did that, you would get men reporting their own wives.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
Saying my mother-in-law gets off at six.
T-Matt says, God, I hope this gets us mass deportations.
I voted for this so hard.
Honestly, it looks like you're getting it, right?
Like, I don't see how this won't result in mass deportations.
So good for you, honestly.
I'm really, really pleased for you.
The thing is, all of this rhetoric is incentive itself.
Right?
So, like, think of the number of people who will self-deport, thus saving billions.
Well, you already get people posting online saying, I can't live in this atmosphere.
I can't live in this climate.
Everybody hates me.
The news is constantly going on about how everybody hates me.
They're paying gargantuan amounts of money to kick me out.
So I'm gone.
You don't have to worry about me anymore.
Okay, great.
Good.
Go away.
You shouldn't clean your toilet anymore.
Okay.
I'll clean it myself.
Hector says, I want Warhammer Titans going through the street gathering legals and blowing up the cartels.
Make it happen, Trump.
I want alligators with freaking laser beams on their heads.
Well, honestly, you're really close to it.
Really close to that Trump Titan or whatever, like just towering over everything.
Oh, God Emperor.
Yeah, yeah.
Why does 10,000 ice agents remind me of five gold rings from the 12 days of Christmas?
Well, you are.
Honestly, I just can't believe how lucky the Americans are getting.
This is just ridiculous, and I'm jealous.
Richard says, Rachel Reeves is a weak liar, and anything in the papers from Labour, etc., is running cover or cope.
Yeah, obviously.
Ignore, ignore, ignore, like the teacher who discovers something rude or salacious was written in the children's toilets at school.
Hate harder, attack with more fervor, the bricks will topple.
Yeah, you can feel the pressure that's on Labour at the moment.
Like, if you look at the front bench when they're in Parliament, they're the longest, most drawn faces, and then Reeves is there weeping.
And it's like, Jesus Christ, this is a party in collapse.
And they're getting great leadership and support from Starmer himself, who said, oh, I didn't notice she was crying.
He's like sat right next to her and he's too autistic to notice.
What's wrong with you?
What are these fluids coming from your eyes?
Yeah, basically.
You mentioned The Office when we were talking about it.
I've watched more of The American Office.
Yeah, I've watched them.
And I said earlier that he reminds me of Toby from The American Office.
The unlikable bureaucrat.
The unlikable bureaucrat who's the most boring man in existence.
Incorrigible Frog says, you're right.
Rachel Reeves smacks a substitute teacher who can't get a handle on the students, spends lunchtime in the toilets crying.
Yes, she does.
And it's like, these people are in charge of our country, man.
Henry says, Labour say they won't tax working people, but instead they'll tax business for having working people employed.
There's literally no difference.
There's literally no difference.
So just jump back a second.
Do you remember those old Haribo adverts where they had adults with children's voices?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Now imagine parliament.
Yes, yeah.
We need to do that.
Hemi, hurt me.
I wish I knew how to do things.
But I saw that apparently they're going to raid the pensions.
I saw a news report yesterday, I think it was.
I think that was one of the revolts from the Labour-backed benches.
No, it was the benefits.
Oh, yeah.
No, apparently Rachel Reeves is like, look, we're going to have to raid the pensions.
It's like, yeah, you've got nowhere to go because it just turns out Thatcher was actually right.
You just run out of other people's money.
There's nothing left to squeeze.
There's nothing left to redistribute.
You're wasting it all on a bunch of foreigners.
And so it's going to come to an end at some point.
James says, put the wind turbines in the English channel.
Smack the dinghies back to France.
Two birds, one stone.
Yeah, think smart, Ed.
You know, Milliban, for Christ's sake, you know.
But it's such a ludicrous thing.
You can have an 800-foot wind turbine in your back garden.
Are you mental?
Of course you should be.
I imagine there will be some kind of height limit and restriction on the ones that you can put in your own back garden.
But then again, at the same time, you don't need planning permission for them.
So what's the oversight going to be?
It's just the cost.
It's just the fact that it costs £2.5 million to put it up in your back garden.
Oh, and we're going to have £2,500 of those across the country soon enough.
Someone online says, so they want to kill any birds that are left on the island.
Well, we have loads of birds.
I guess it's war on the starlings.
Yeah.
War on the starlings, it looks like.
Michael says, from the nation that brought us Monty Python, Benny Hill and Blackadder, now we have Jeremy Corbyn's new political party.
Every time Corbyn speaks, there should be a laugh track played.
That would actually be really, really funny.
But also, like, Jeremy Corbyn, like, repeatedly had this problem when he was the leader of the Labour Party, right?
Like, they were constantly reporting on the doorstep.
They'd be like, hi, would you vote for Labour?
And it's like, what, that communist terrorist supporting Corbyn every single time.
And so, and Jeremy Corbyn also lost to Theresa May.
Like, if you lose to Theresa May, you must really suck.
And the thing is, in their own sort of internal universe, in the Jeremy Corbyn verse, like, I've heard his supportive activists saying that they won that.
They won this.
And remember that Jeremy Corbyn came out and said, well, we may have lost the election.
We won the argument.
It's like, no, look, I don't know.
Like, you are delusional, right?
If you had won the argument, you won.
Yeah, exactly.
And like, there were a bunch of them who were just like on TV being like, well, you know, he won in 2017.
It's like, no, didn't he lost?
What are you talking about?
It's because they literally live in this delusional bubble where they're like, no, you know what?
Tomorrow, the British public are going to vote for Islamo-communism.
They're going to do it.
It's just, it hasn't been pitched right because Kia Starma's been in the way.
It's like that.
People are not going for it.
Zara Sultana, she's going to be the tidal shift.
I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
She's come over now.
Yeah.
Just wait for the rest of them.
Henry says, lads, I'm going to have to send you a book about why nuclear power is the future.
Bro, you don't need to persuade us.
We're totally on board.
You know?
He says, it's equal parts infuriating and incredibly optimistic.
It talks about how nuclear power is cheap, clean, potentially able to generate more fuel through use.
But also talks about how renewable energy just leads to massive increases in coal burning, like in Germany.
Yeah, we know, you know, we know it's the most productive, the most consistent, and the cleanest and safest.
Like, all the numbers are in.
There's just literally no debate to be had about nuclear power.
It's just that Ed Miliband is.
We know that the second thorium reactors were invented.
It's just done.
Yeah, Ed Miliband is just a ridiculous character from a Wallace and Grommet film and refuses to change his mind.
That's where we are.
North FC Zuma says, the first thing that comes up when you Google basket weavers is the Cope Not Hate article.
Twice, almost like they get institutional support.
Yeah, they're definitely on some kind of whitelist for Google from back in the day when they actually had some political relevance.
But keep going.
You'll find more.
Omar says, you can tell basket weavers is far right because it's not explicitly far left.
Where else would you find such a fertile breeding ground for extremism such than checks note?
Completely free and voluntary association.
The hope not hit peace telling on themselves as usual.
Well, this is the issue, isn't it?
Like, it doesn't matter what you do, right?
If you're not on their side and if you have an idea of your own, then they are going to hate you and do these sort of things to you.
Frankly, I mean, it's a badge of honor to have been featured, right?
This is one of the problems that many people have.
And Dan was getting furious for so long that he hadn't been featured.
Until this one, he finally popped his cherry.
In a very minor role, though.
But he's in the lagoon.
He's a very minor player.
Let's piece him down.
Soon he'll be like Shia LaBeouf in everything.
He's got to do better, frankly.
Alex says, Harry prefers his hair long, Mark, because that way people can see he's definitely not Ginger.
Is it true, Harry?
Are you actually Ginger?
Well, one, I'm not Ginger.
And two, the fact of the matter is that whenever I cut my hair short, it just feels wrong.
I've just always felt more comfortable with long hair since I was a teenager, probably because I'm a metalhead.
So it just comes more naturally to me.
Just think, if you've been born just a couple of years longer later, you could have been trans.
That's true.
That's true.
Thankfully, that never happened.
Anne says that she wants to know when the next Basket Weaver's mini golf outing is.
She didn't realise there'd be a based outing.
I see.
Well, you'll have to check the schedule.
It depends on where in the country you are.
But if you're in London, then there's certainly going to be like three or four things going on per week.
Some are paid and some are not.
And the ones that are free are in blue and the ones that are paid are in red.
It's as simple as that.
A little mini-golf outlining sounds fun.
Omar says, Alligator Alcatraz was never going to be good propaganda for the left when Florida could fund the entire expanded ICE budget with paper chew.
Seriously, though, I think it's such good branding.
Alligator Alcatraz, like the meme writes itself.
I've seen leftists going, oh, it's alligator Auschwitz.
It's like, oh, my God.
Oh, for goodness sake.
But you also know that the concept works funny.
Like, it's funny enough, right, in English, right?
But as soon as it gets translated, it'll become some actual horror sort of horrific phrase in the other language.
Spanish.
Spanish.
Alcatraz de la Muerte or something, you know, like this is what it's going to be.
But that's good because you want the Mexican president being like, no, don't go.
They've got.
Do you remember the first Trump administration when he was saying he wants to build a big wall with a moat with alligators in it?
And everyone laughed.
Not laughing now, are they?
And we got Florida to build.
Yeah, it's not great, actually.
It's just Cayman Alcatraz.
Oh, yeah, Cayman, yeah.
Cayman Alcatraz.
So hopefully they'll come up with something a bit more brutal.
Daniel says, after moving to Scotland, I've enjoyed going out for nice hikes, but I regularly have to drive past massive clusters of these disgusting monstrosities, as in the fans.
Yes.
Wind turbines.
Wind turbines.
Scarring the countryside.
Just thankful at the moment they are not on the Salisbury Plains in such numbers.
Well, if Ed Miliband gets his way, there won't be a square inch of England that isn't covered in wind turbines.
So, you know.
North FC Zoomer says, I can't decide how much decline in the UK is enough to convince the Normies without being past the point of no return.
An overtly Muslim party ruins a lot of their narratives.
But how many towns will this take over?
That's a great question, actually.
Because honestly, the existence of an overtly Muslim party is probably the biggest red pill.
Because the fiction that they're going to integrate, they're going to become liars.
It's all gone.
That's all gone.
It's a completely experiential thing.
Like, I have friends who are very, very sort of pro-diversity, love the food sort of sort of people, right?
And then they went on a walk in a little town, in a seaside town on the south coast of England.
And they were like, they're loitering everywhere.
Yes.
And they're not speaking any English and they don't appear to be working and they're scaring my sister sort of thing.
And then all of a sudden, overnight, it was like, okay, these people have to go.
And so like the fact that one of the reasons why, shall we say, like remigration sentiment hasn't been taken up as vividly as it should have been amongst a lot of the middle classes, they've never experienced it.
You know, they've these enclaves are enclaves.
Their enclaves are enclaves.
So they never get to see the no whites allowed, don't walk down here or you'll be stabbed areas of Britain.
Alex says, I've tried to sign up a couple of times for the basket weavers, but haven't had the confirmation email.
It's not any spam.
Any ideas what to do?
I would reach out to the basketweavers.net X account and someone on the team will help you.
It is a completely volunteer effort by the people who run it, so be patient with them.
Really, it's not being funded by Peter Thiel or anything.
No, no, no outside funding whatsoever.
Just the memberships donate to Beowulf to help keep the lights on, basically, keep the website going and pay for the magazine and stuff like that.
So, yeah, basically the official Basketweavers Twitter account is your best bet there for help.
Thank you very much.
And thank you, Mark, for coming and joining us.
And we will be back in half an hour with Land Sammer, where we are going to be playing the Trump board game.