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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Fabian Society.
	I'm your host, Sir Sadiq Khan, today joined by Stephen Wolfe and Luca Johnson.
	How are we feeling today, boys?
	Pretty ill with that face.
	Making me queasy.
	I, on behalf of the Fabian Society, would like to thank...
	For sending in some publications to us, presumably for the receipt of Harry Robinson, evil fascist, from the Fabian Society itself.
	Punishment and reform by Sadiq Khan.
	Fairness and favors by Sadiq Khan.
	Breathe tackling the climate emergency by Sadiq Khan.
	Signed copy.
	Where did I put my signature?
	Oh, it's so difficult to forget.
	I signed so many.
	Right there.
	With a great write-up from Ed Miliband.
	And finally, a book from my good friend Ash Sarkar, Minority Rule.
	Adventures in the Culture War.
	Ash Sarkar, noted anti-culture warrior.
	So, thank you all very much for that.
	Alright.
	Hi.
	I was going to say, I'm back.
	Jesus Christ.
	You need a clean shower after that.
	Hello, friends.
	It's the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
	And today we're going to be talking about...
	Luca, you are taking the role of Josh for this segment, aren't you?
	I am Japanese adjacent.
	I visited it once, so I'm an expert now.
	Oh yeah, also we got this Sadiq Khan mug.
	Which has his mug on it.
	You say we, but you're the only one that's ever going to use it.
	I'm only going to use it this once.
	I'm not going to be like Connor.
	It's going to get dropped like those books.
	I don't know, there might be a secret love affair forming here with the Khanites.
	I'm not going to be like Connor with his Ken mug.
	Either way, anything else we'd like to say before we start, gents?
	I'm just relieved the mask is off.
	No one cared who I was till I put on the mask.
	Right.
	Anyway, I think we should get into it.
	laughs
	And I will be critical.
	I'm wondering how it is it's playing off against his base.
	But we are in England.
	We're on the ground in England.
	So as I go through all of this, please let us know how you're feeling about it.
	and also I am going to be critical during this, so please forgive me for that.
	I'm not your enemy.
	I simply want what is best for the West and the US in general.
	And I think that what's been going on, particularly with the aggressive actions towards Iran recently, is not what's going to be best for the West.
	If the US does decide to engage in a ground war with Iran on the side of Israel, I do believe that given that Iran is a regional hegemon in that territory in the Middle East, that like what happened with Iraq and Iraq,
	all of whom are going to be a fifth column.
	Within the territory, Iran itself is a very ethnically mixed population, 50 or so percent Persians, but that data is quite old now, so I don't know exactly the ethnic makeup, but it's very diverse, and this always leads to civil war.
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	And we're back.
	Thank you very much for sticking around, everybody.
	I can only assume that Sadiq Khan's office decided to shut us down temporarily under false accusations of identity theft.
	World War III will not happen because Russia and China are not going to actually engage with the US in any great capacity.
	I think the worst case scenario, which is the most likely scenario if that happens, is civil war that leads to migration flows.
	Either way, so starting off with deportations, we know one of the big things that people voted for Trump for was to stem the flow of illegal migration into the country, which, as far as I know, given border crossings, Has been relatively successful, but one of the things that he also promised was huge numbers of deportations, as supported by Stephen Miller and other people within his administration.
	The recent news is that on Truth Social, he called to federal agencies to do all in their power to deliver the single largest mass deportation program in history, and he named LA, where the riots have been going on recently, Chicago and New York as specific targets.
	So that's words but Well, the really disappointing news, as reported on by all people of National Review, is that the DHS recently decided that it would not conduct worksite investigations or operations on the agriculture, restaurant and hotel industries.
	The new policy is a form of administrative amnesty for illegal workers in those industries.
	As with the NEM amnesty, the recipients are allowed to remain in the U.S. for 9%.
	According to this report here, the current estimates are that this covers about 12.5% of illegal immigrants.
	But one of the problems that it also brings is the new incentives, which is that if you are an illegal immigrant in the US, you want to stay.
	You might move into those industries so that you can be a recipient of the administrative amnesty.
	And if you are someone trying to cross the border at the moment, then you will go straight into those industries so that you can avoid being deported straight away.
	That is quite a step back from the initial promises that were made, all for the sake of, I assume, protecting cheap labour.
	In those industries, really the job should be going to Americans.
	All aliens are illegal, but some are more illegal than others.
	Exactly.
	Then there is the...
	Because when we were looking at, like, the fact is looking about 2 million.
	Yes, 2 million amnesty recipients, and that's according to the estimates from the Centre for Immigration Studies of 15.8 million illegal immigrants.
	Pretty reasonable.
	I've been following this and looking at the numbers to see how the border has been controlled, and so to slow this down.
	And we've been watching the arguments about it, and you're quite right, to pick up the fact that there has been a real big lobbying process by industry to try and stop these people from being deported.
	And what seems to be happening is, and I don't know if you're going to cover this as well, is that the contraction of those that they're also going to remove is down now to criminality.
	So serious criminals, money laundering issues, drug enforcement cases, which takes that number even further down from the 15.8 million.
	And there's a lot of anger out there, I mean, that I've seen and been watching at this, that there is a feeling that he's been taken over by their equivalent of the blob.
	they call it the deep state,
	economic reasons well as we go along here i believe there is plenty of reason to believe that the trump administration has been co-opted by the neoconservatives the deep state whatever you want to term them that he is not keeping his promises although of course in if you actually listen back to the sorts of things that he was saying in both of his campaigns his promises could occasionally be very vague whereas some of the more clear statements that he made especially regarding
	immigration were things like that he wanted daca recipients to be able to remain in the u.s he still wanted people to be able to come in in huge numbers unbefore never before seen numbers of immigrants into the country but as long as they were doing it legally he still wanted to make sure that there were lots of students especially from china coming into the country so there is um
	Either way, very disappointing for what people were initially voting for him for.
	The other thing that I wanted to mention before we get to the Iran situation is the...
	Epstein files, which was a huge thing right at the beginning of his administration this year, but then got dropped very quickly after February, when there were more than 100 pages of declassified documents related to Epstein released, most of which we already had in unredacted form.
	These versions were heavily redacted, and then Pam Bondi, who released them, made a We heard very, very little about it ever since then, except for when Elon Musk had a big falling out with Donald Trump a few weeks ago.
	Him out of the blue saying that the reason that the files hadn't come out was because of the fact that Donald Trump's name was in them.
	And that was a tweet that he has subsequently deleted, and I believe he's also apologized for it, saying that he was going a little bit crazy.
	There's been some attempts to...
	So that's the last we've really heard about the Epstein files, and I don't see that changing.
	I was looking into reports, more recent reports on what's going on with them, and the most that I could find was people speaking about Elon Musk's accusation.
	And now let's go into the Iran situation.
	I wanted to try and be...
	And I've been listening to quite a bit of coverage.
	I listened to, let me double check his name, Brian Baletic on the Duran recently.
	I listened to a bit of what AA has spoken about.
	I've been looking into a lot of what the mainstream media has been saying about.
	So I'm going to try to go through the events as I understand them.
	Going back to looking at...
	For some reason, this article isn't available on this browser.
	So I'll just read the notes that I've got here.
	So this article was from November of last year, which was the time when Iran and Israel were...
	So Trump triggered initially, it says here, a standoff with Iran after he abandoned the 2015 Accords, which were known as the JCPOA, that Tehran had signed with world powers and imposed waves of sanctions.
	On the Islamic Republic and what he called a maximum pressure campaign.
	After this, he accused Tehran of violating the spirit of the agreement by funneling newfound revenue to support its regional proxies, notably the Lebanese group Hezbollah, which we're all familiar with by now.
	In retaliation, Iran significantly expanded its nuclear activities and is enriching uranium near to weapons grade despite insisting that its program was for civilian purposes.
	We know now after an IAEA report But at the same time in March, Tulsi Gabbard had done an intelligence report looking into the situation where she had advised Donald Trump that she did not believe that the Iranian regime was building nuclear weapons.
	And despite all of this, at the time last year, Iran was saying that they wanted to maintain relations with America and Donald Trump in particular to try and...
	He'd also accused earlier this year in March, he'd said that Iran would face dire consequences unless Houthi attacks stopped because of the Houthis, of course, being backed by Iran.
	He said that every shot fired by the Houthis will be looked upon from this point forward as being shot fired from the weapons and leadership of Iran.
	Iran will be held responsible and suffer the consequences and those consequences will be dire.
	This was before negotiations had started so you could He also said back in April that the US was going to be having direct talks with Iran, and this is when you start to see this phrase start to pop up quite a lot, saying that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, which is a phrase that he started to repeat a lot in reference to people.
	And that's when we start to see a big change in terms of the American mentality towards Iran, they've been taken over by the warmongers.
	The same sort of people that want to have continual war in Ukraine, which is an issue that I know you're not touching today, but it's actually become less and less tough on Ukraine and more and more tough on the idea that we have this continual war.
	But what's interesting to me, we had the conversation this week on Radio 4. I just happened to catch it in the morning, not by chance of wanting to listen to it all the time, but I was in the car and the former head of MI6 was making a statement that in regards of intelligence from the UK,
	So we tend to, along with the French, tend to have allegedly better kind of connections into Iran when it comes to this kind of assessment.
	And the US, through its five eyes, are supposed to listen to us.
	So either they're listening totally to the Israelis now and saying, who are saying outwardly, they've got it capable, as you say, to do nine.
	Yeah, well, regime change we saw earlier this year in Syria with the fall of the Assad regime.
	The US has been involved in regime change in Afghanistan.
	very unsuccessful in the long run, but they were involved in the first place, and in Iraq.
	So this is just typical American foreign policy, and for those who were hoping that...
	Foreign policy seems to have carried on just the same as it always did.
	The Pentagon and the deep state seem to be getting what they want, and I'll show more evidence for that as we go forward.
	It reminds me a lot, actually, of just over 100 years ago, when you look at US history with Warren Harding and his campaign.
	It was all, you know, platformed on a return to normalcy, a return to, you know, after America's, obviously, engagement in World War I. Yes.
	And, you know, wars in the continent, distant wars far afield that don't really concern us and all of the massive social change that was going on at the time.
	And so there's actually a similarity between Harding's platform back then and Trump's platform most recent.
	Shockingly enough, there's also a similarity between Trump's platform that he was campaigning on and also FDR's platform that he was campaigning on in 1940 when he was explicit in his speeches.
	that he was going to keep the US out of any European war and make sure that American soldiers were not going off to die for some foreign cause like happened in the First World War.
	But we know actually now from a lot of diaries a lot of declassified documents and other things that FDR was explicitly trying to maneuver the US into the war, trying to find any way to get US soldiers into Europe.
	As was the case in World War I as well.
	As was the case in World War I. Not saying that Donald Trump is I mean, and I know this is an uncomfortable thing for our American audience, but in every war that's occurred since the First World War, America's made money on it.
	And they're going to make money, for example, on Ukraine.
	Huge amounts in terms of the deal that was done by Trump.
	After the Second World War, the reparations wasn't just how much we had to pay and Europe had to pay back.
	We had to give up land.
	We had to give up assets to the United States.
	So they benefited from that.
	And our empire declined with a growing influence.
	And I think to an element of this, this is also about reconstructing the Middle East for the long-term benefit economically of some of the bigger corporate interests, We're often behind the warmongers.
	You know, we look at that and they turn around.
	Someone used to say we want to get a McDonald's into every country.
	But in reality, they want to get everything.
	Oh, yeah.
	Totally.
	Yes, it's all part of the liberal world order.
	So following this, we start to get the negotiations going on, and Iran was already starting to get a little bit antsy about this, where the Ayatollah was saying that Trump was lying about bringing peace to the Middle East.
	These comments came after Donald Trump went on a four-day tour of the Gulf allies, Saudis, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, and followed by quickly a start of a new Israeli military campaign in the Gaza Strip.
	He said, The recent remarks of the U.S. president during his visit to the region are a disgrace to the speaker and a disgrace to the American nation.
	Trump said he wanted to use the power for peace.
	He lied.
	And then Khomeini said, The exact sort of thing that you would expect him to say about Israel, Zionist regime, malignant cancerous tumor, little Satan, etc., etc.
	And it says here that,
	Ali Shem Kani, a top advisor to Khomeini, told NBC that week that Iran would commit to never making nuclear weapons, eliminating stockpiles of highly enriched uranium, enriching uranium only to lower levels needed for civilian use and allowing international inspectors to supervise it in exchange for the lifting.
	However, Trump said he wanted to avoid a deal with a round that resembled the JCPOA, the one that Obama brokered, which was reached during Obama and Trump withdrew from.
	So he wanted to prevent going down that same route.
	and 64% of Republicans were also in support of that.
	So again, I'm interested to see...
	It's fascinating.
	64% of Republicans were there, saying that they want to continue with negotiations with Iran.
	Because most people see common sense.
	Look, we're not big fans of Iran.
	Are anyone really shooting out and say, yo, Khomeini?
	None of us are actually doing that.
	You don't have to be...
	That's right, exactly that.
	And I think really most of us are looking at this and saying, dragging us into wars, whether it's against Iran, whether it's against China, whether it's against Russia, is not in the long-term interest of people.
	When we're spending so much, our debts are too high, immigration is moving around, and all the points that you're raising at the moment are incredibly valid of why I think 64% of Republicans...
	Yes, and the frustrating thing for me that I've encountered speaking about this on Twitter, and I know that Twitter is not representative of people, but I have encountered a number of these war hawk, fear-mongering types who are saying that we need to because they've got nukes and they've got all of this threat and they're going to target the West immediately after they take care of Israel, etc., etc., is that they, like so many, are pushing for wars that they will not fight.
	Absolutely.
	They do not expect that if They are expecting other people's children to go and fight and die for them.
	Similarly, there's an attitude that I've seen crop up in the UK over the past day or so as well, which is that Iran deserves it because it's an Islamist nation, and that somehow by proxy, initiating and involving ourselves in a war with Iran will somehow fix the problem of the grooming game.
	A nerve?
	An absurd kind of tribalism that has no logical argument in its own favour.
	And I would ask you this.
	When we were involved in war and regime change in Afghanistan, after that project was over, did we have more or less Afghanis in England?
	More.
	Of course we had more.
	And more Iraqis.
	And more Iraqis.
	The scheme was taken advantage of by any opportunities.
	And I know the play.
	I've seen it before.
	I've seen it too many times in my 28 years to not understand where this will go, which will be that...
	We need to punish them for their crimes against humanity until all of a sudden they're starting to move west as part of a refugee crisis, at which point you're racist bigots if you don't want to take them into your own country.
	Well, if you didn't want them, maybe you shouldn't have bombed them.
	Yeah.
	It's that argument, But anyway, so the next thing that I had was that as part of the negotiations, tensions were continually rising between Iran and Israel at the time.
	And Israel was seeming to start to gesture towards having an attack on Iran.
	But Trump had said explicitly not to do that.
	End the Gaza war.
	Stop the Iranian threats.
	We are trying to negotiate at the moment.
	you are not helping tensions by doing this and this was back in This was the day before the attacks first started.
	So that is a final statement saying, do not do it.
	And then the next day they did.
	The next day they did.
	So let's take a look at some of the more context here, which is featured in this BBC article, which gives a bit more of the details.
	So as I mentioned, the IAEA had said in its latest quarterly report, because again, just to add all the context for this, The basis for this attack is being rested on the idea that Iran has nuclear weapons or nuclear capabilities that they are just around the corner from developing nuclear weapons that needs to be stopped because if they develop these nuclear weapons,
	there will not only be an existential threat to Israel and other countries in the Middle East, but to the West in general.
	They are an insane, theocratic regime that can't have nuclear weapons under any cost.
	that's what Donald Trump has said, Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.
	Even though, again, Tulsi Gabbard, as part of the intelligence community, has said that Either way, the IAEA said in its latest quarterly report that Iran had amassed enough uranium enriched to 60% purity to potentially make nine nuclear bombs.
	Potentially, not that they were or were going to, but potentially.
	In the first few days following the attack by Israel, three key facilities in Iran's vast program have been targeted.
	Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow.
	The IAEA has said that a pilot fuel enrichment plant above ground at Natanz was destroyed.
	Iran is saying that it's limited.
	Of course, we've got all the fog of war, so we can't really know for certain right now.
	Israel's also striking sources of knowledge by assassinating at least nine nuclear scientists so far and a growing list of top military commanders.
	From listening to...
	AA's coverage of this, what he was saying about this, and his father's Iranian, so he got the information off of his dad, is apparently it's the IRGC, isn't it?
	Apparently, the way that organization works is that the members of it never actually retire.
	So if military commanders get killed off in the line of duty or assassinated, as we see here, what happens is just that...
	So it's a very interesting way that means they maintain their reserves.
	Its list of targets, which includes military bases, missile launch pads and factories, is now widening to economic and oil facilities.
	Iran's also hitting back with its own expanding hit list as civilian casualties mount in both countries.
	To deal a decisive blow to Iran's vast nuclear program, Israel would have to do significant damage to Fordow, its second largest and most heavily protected site.
	The complex is deep underground in a mountain, and it's where some experts believe that Iran has stockpiled much of its nuclear weapons-grade uranium.
	Reports in Israeli media say the current aim is to try to cut off access to the facility, and Israel doesn't have bunker-busting bombs it needs to smash through all of the rock that's on top of the site.
	When you kind of say this litany of all the things that are happening, which weren't there.
	We know they weren't there, so why isn't the public in our country getting really angry that we're being fed more lies again when we've got people suggesting
	Because it's very, very apparent, isn't it, that it doesn't really matter how much the public in America or Britain or any nation in the West really consents to things happening if the powers that be want them to happen.
	Then they will happen.
	Well, to try to explain why it is that Iran may have that much stockpile uranium, it is possible that they might in the future want to consider developing nuclear weapons for its own defensive purposes.
	I do not believe that they would be a belligerent given that...
	they only have limited capabilities as it is and if they did they would get nuked off of the map straight away instead I do think it's important to note that Israel, since establishing itself in the region, has been increasingly belligerent, increasingly territorial, expanding its territory, engaging in wars, all backed by the number one superpower, and it has made it explicit that it wants regime change in
	Iran, as does the US, because they want to return to maybe the old Shah, an exiled elite that would be more friendly to US interests, be more amenable when negotiating contracts And importantly, a gap between Russia and China.
	Yes, and the gap between Russia and China.
	This is the long-term aim.
	I mean, I don't know how many of you have seen the kind of speeches and stand-up comedy, in a way, I should say, from the old Shah's family.
	You know, how many of them, they want to put a new king back in, a new Shah back in to Iran.
	So this isn't even about giving them democracy.
	It's about removing a theocracy.
	And putting in their own kink who would be amenable to us.
	And wasn't that exactly what caused the problem in the first place?
	We, the Brits, put in somebody.
	So rather than giving it to the hands of the people anyway, they're still going to be told who they're going to have running or controlling them.
	They've had in the past hundred or so years a number of regime changes backed variously by foreign powers that have made it so that for a long while it was essentially a puppet state.
	And the 1979 revolution And you can think what you want about how they treat their own citizens, how the regime behaves.
	But the fact of the matter is, since then, we have made it very clear that we are seeking regime change.
	But we do have a difficult challenge, don't we?
	Of course.
	And that difficult challenge is that we can't allow Israel to continually feel as though it's being threatened.
	And there needs to be some form of mechanism in place to get these people, in particular the leadership, I wouldn't say necessarily the people, who absolutely abhor each other.
	The Iranians at the top really don't like the Israelis.
	The Israelis at the top really don't like the Iranians.
	And America will come and always back Israel at any cost, as you quite rightly said.
	So how do we create a scenario where Israel doesn't want to lose its crap and go out and bomb the hell out of Iran as it's doing now, and the Iranians to carry on doing what they want to do, which is run a nuclear program?
	I think it would require somebody like a forceful personality like Donald Trump, Because America does have the power to do that.
	They are still the number one global superpower.
	Obviously, there are threats to that coming up.
	But America doesn't in these situations.
	It's been remarked many times that it seems there's no red line.
	That Israel can cross that America won't support them on.
	And if that's the American choice in dealing with foreign policy in the Middle East, that's their choice.
	But if you were to look to resolve this without conflict, then America would need to say, here are the terms.
	Donald Trump said explicitly, do not attack Iran.
	The day after.
	They do.
	And it was, frankly, they were in the middle of negotiations with Donald Trump at the time.
	It was an unprovoked attack.
	They initiated hostilities in this.
	Obviously, you can say a lot about Iran funding Hezbollah Unconditional surrenders.
	Winston Churchill all over again and saying that, Has it?
	I know that Israel needs the bunker bombs to be able to get to Fordow, but they don't actually have those, but the US has them.
	So obviously, given that Israel can only put up a limited front for a short amount of time, they need America to begin giving them those bunker bombs.
	Or outright dragging themselves into the war anyway.
	So what's it going to be?
	This was in regards to the Tulsi Gabbard thing.
	And it does seem that there is some suggestions that talks might go back into ceasefire and peace deals, nuclear deals, but we will see how that goes.
	So I thought I'd take a look at some of the reactions that we've had from some of the...
	So Joel Berry from the Babylon Bee was saying, one good thing to do if you're anti-war is to prevent a desert tribe of bloodthirsty religious cultists from obtaining nukes, which is the same line that we've heard for years at this point, which is, just this one last war.
	Just this one last war.
	You don't like war.
	I don't like war either.
	I hate war.
	But if we fight this one last war, no more wars.
	There's bullshit and you know it's said since 1914.
	Yeah, that's BS.
	I'm sorry.
	Nobody's buying that anymore.
	I only just learned who this man is, right?
	Mark Levin.
	And I've discovered that he is an utter madman.
	We in real MAGA, real American patriots, stand with you, Mr. President, our military, and our Israeli allies.
	Whatever's happening, we should strongly support our president and our troops.
	Pray for them, blah, blah.
	He posted this thing.
	We're fake MAGA grifters if we're concerned.
	Well, no, no, no.
	This is the real MAGA foreign policy, according to him, saying we are witness to a foreign policy unlike any other since Reagan-Thatcher, John Paul II defeated the Soviet Union It seems to me to be a direct continuation of those same policies, actually.
	And if you read this article, this is pure fanaticism.
	A reasonable argument, a rational argument made in here, is him just being completely fanatical.
	It's kind of strange to read.
	Gad Saad, who normally is quite reasonable on some things, disappointed me by going straight for the World War II comparison, because we can never, ever escape World War II.
	Every conflict is always World War II.
	Saddam Hussein is the new Hitler.
	The Ayatollah is the new Hitler.
	If you don't support endless wars, then you're just an anti-Semite.
	Who wants all of the Jews to die?
	That's his argument seemingly here.
	Very tiring to see this old one trotted out.
	It's the same about if you want to push out immigrants, you're all kind of Nazis as well.
	So, you know, you cannot even win either side.
	If you want to try and find a reasonable way in which our kids aren't killed, and we don't see mass immigration into our country, but still find a solution to ensure that Israel is safe, rather than bombing every Tom, Dick, and Harry.
	That is not really necessarily an Israel scenario.
	I think it's all about the military guys who want to make money out of this.
	I mean, I think always follow the money.
	Yeah, and this was the most insane thing ever.
	This is the evangelical perspective, I can assume, which is, has anyone considered the possibility that America has miraculously survived so many close calls over the centuries?
	Is that our purpose is to defend Israel?
	No!
	We're not quitting Israel.
	No chance are we ever going to do that.
	Nobody's ever considered that.
	I thought America was supposed to be a land for Americans to make their own destiny.
	When George Washington said, are these the men with which I am to defend America?
	Well, he actually meant is, are these the men with which we are to eventually defend a country that doesn't exist yet in 200 years down the line?
	That's what Washington was meaning.
	That's what Washington wanted.
	That's why Jefferson signed the Declaration of Independence and wrote it.
	Then there are the people who've kind of turned on Trump a little bit, which is Dave Smith, who's libertarian.
	I actually really like Dave Smith.
	I know some people don't after his discussion with Douglas Murray, but I thought he came out looking much better than Murray did.
	He's apologized for his Trump support because the whole reason he was supporting Trump in the first place was for his promises of being anti-war, and he feels that he's turned his back on that.
	Tucker Carlson is probably the most notable person.
	To turn back on him, he's released a statement here saying that Trump, if he wants to maintain support from his base, needs to allow Israel to fight their own wars.
	Because of course, my perspective is, if Israel wants to go to war with Iran, they're a sovereign nation.
	They can start their own wars, but they can also fight their own wars, and it shouldn't be anybody else's responsibility to drag them out of it.
	And they'll do very well.
	I think they'll be quite successful because they'll also get lots and lots of funding from the States.
	They'll get lots of military from there.
	And they've shown already that they can do it in Syria, they can do it in Lebanon.
	They've taken out four countries in less than a year.
	And it's just that Iran is much bigger.
	But actually, Iran doesn't have, I mean, as far as I'm aware, it doesn't really have that much more.
	I mean, we remember a war with Iran-Iraq.
	They had one too, and there was a lot of, lot of damage.
	And China has not come in behind Iran, as people thought they would do, because they know if Iran goes, they're next.
	Donald Trump has hit back against him.
	I'm going to speed through this now because this has been going on for a little while.
	This was a fascinating clip from a recent interview that's, I think, coming out today or tomorrow from Ted Cruz on Iran, where Tucker Carlson just asks him...
	What's the population of Iran?
	What's the ethnic breakdown?
	Ted Cruz says he doesn't know and he doesn't need to know and this is the exact same kind of complacent, lazy attitude that made it so difficult for America to effect effective regime change in Iraq, in Afghanistan because you need to know The situation on the ground in a country if you're looking to change the regime there, because otherwise it will just erupt into civil war.
	As we saw, JD Vance has come out.
	Basically defending all of the decisions that have been going on recently.
	one of the interesting things that has been happening as well is since the attacks have been going on, one of the goals of attacks like this is to apply pressure to the Iranian regime so that they can have a popular uprising against them where the people on the ground blame the regime for inviting these attacks in the first place.
	The problem is, is that even in this article, and I've seen a number of other reports saying similar things, what you're finding is people who were already against the regime in Iran are saying, well, yeah, initially when we saw these oppressive generals and members of the regime being taken
	out, we saw hope, but now that it's becoming indiscriminate bombing attacks on Tehran, we're seeing family members die, we're fearing for our lives, what you end up doing, and this is a similar thing that happened in Germany when we were bombing Hamburg, you end up rallying the people on the ground to a nationalistic
	cause, because they don't see it as Israel versus the Iranian state, they're beginning to see it as Israel versus the Iranian people, and so that actually causes people to rally around their own causes and put up more resistance.
	It comes back to the Enoch Powell quote when he was talking to Thatcher about, I would defend this country even if it had a communist government.
	Yes.
	Because it's that same thing.
	It's like, well, yeah, as you say, if your people are under siege, then that comes first above ideology.
	Yes, and then when we go back to the casus belli of the nuclear threat as well, you can just look at anything, this is the Christian Science Monitor, but you can find a number of other articles talking about this sort of thing, where the repeated warnings ever since 1984, really, when West German engineers visited a nuclear reactor and begin to warn that there was a production of a nuclear bomb entering its final stages.
	Seven years away.
	Yeah, seven years away.
	1986.
	In 1995, there's Netanyahu warning that Iran was about to finish a nuclear weapon, etc, etc.
	So we know that this is just the line that they are going through to justify it.
	And if you're falling for this, I'm sorry, this is the same line that we've had going back to 2003 with WMDs justifying the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.
	Netanyahu, again for a long time, has been talking about the fact that there needs to be Oh wait, that's the same article twice.
	Apologies, friends.
	He's written a book about it in 1986 called Terrorism, How the West Can Win.
	I didn't know that this existed.
	A Netanyahu book on what needs to happen in the Middle East.
	You go up there and then you'll see it.
	Yes.
	Syria, Iraq, Iran.
	They've all fallen.
	And then Yemen's in there, and Yemen won't last long.
	Yeah, so that they can obtain a sort of regional hegemony, or at the very least, get rid of states that they see as hostile to themselves.
	And on the American side as well, you can go back 20 years and see...
	He wrote a book about it, a very good book that I'd recommend, called Where the Right Went Wrong, How the Neoconservative Establishment, I think it's took over the Bush administration, or something like that, where he was making it very, very clear, even back then, that the whole point of the American foreign policy had become to eliminate basically what was perceived as Primarily Middle Eastern threats to Israel.
	and he'd been talking about that for a very long time.
	And then going to the Brian Berlitt...
	Sorry, let me just double...
	He mentioned in an interview with the Duran yesterday that there was a 2009 Brookings Institution policy paper that basically lays out this whole play.
	And I was able to find it.
	For which path to Persia?
	And let me just read out a little bit of this here, because it's talking about different paths for an American strategy towards Iran.
	It talks about a number of things, including the Bush administration's funding and support for protests that had been going on even during the Bush administration, basically trying to encourage a kind of velvet revolution that they talk about.
	But one of the things that keeps being brought up here is regime change.
	And they say regime change is another strategy that could involve most of the other options in various roles.
	First, the United States might opt to employ some version of persuasion to set up regime change.
	Regime change would seem far more palatable to Americans, Middle Easterners, Europeans and Asians, and probably even to the Iranian people, if they believe that Iran had been offered a very good deal and turned it down.
	Indeed, if this is the perception among Iranians, more of them might be willing to oppose the regime.
	Thus, starting with some effort at the persuasion would be a good way to begin, but if regime change were really Washington's goal, the United States would have to ensure that the Iranians turned down the offered deal, while making sure that the deal looked attractive to others.
	If the Iran experts are right that Tehran is unlikely to compromise no matter what is offered, as long as it feels threatened, then a clever approach to regime change might be to simultaneously offer a good deal, albeit not one so good that Tehran might overcome its paranoia, while ratcheting up a range of regime change programs that leadership would perceive as a threat.
	threat.
	If Iran retaliated with a major terrorist attack that killed large numbers of people or a terrorist attack involving WMDs, especially on US soil, Washington might decide that an invasion was the only way to deal with such a dangerous Iranian regime.
	Indeed, for this same reason, efforts to promote regime change in Iran might be intended by the US government as deliberate provocations to try to goad the Iranians into an excessive response that might then justify an American invasion.
	Now that's very interesting that all of that is just available in a policy paper from 2009 that you can find online, which suggests to me...
	Obviously the timescale extended, but the countries remain the same.
	That was Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and then finishing off with Iran.
	It seems to me that Donald Trump's promise to drain the swamp, eliminate the deep state, hasn't worked.
	If that was ever a promise he was going to keep in the first place, because the foreign policy that I see being pursued today seems like an unbroken continuation of the policy that has been going on since at least the Bush administration.
	So, again, let me know what you think about this.
	Let me know, do you think that this is going to lose support for Trump, or do you think that people are going to be able to excuse it, or are you in favour of war?
	That'd be very interesting.
	I mean, if you are, I'd like to know if you believe the nukes lie, or if it's just that you genuinely believe that there should be regime change.
	If you admit the second, I admire and respect your honesty.
	Sorry that went on for so long, chaps.
	There was a lot to go through there.
	Right.
	Well, I was, and I think we'll get a lot of reactions on that.
	So I need to go right back then to where we were at the beginning of this part, which is...
	All right, well, I think we're going to cut it down.
	On this particular occasion, we obviously know that the Casey Report has come out.
	And what I wanted to try and deal with here is that we've had a lot of talk about the initial findings of the Casey report.
	I think one of the things that I would say, and if I've got the kind of mouse, if I can, so I can just put it in to get into this part on here.
	There we go.
	Thank you.
	The first of all is that the paedophile sexual exploitation of girls we've known has gone on for a while, and we've been speaking about it, the shows we speak about it, lots of people have been speaking about it, and we of course know that they excluded it and turned around and said, right, it just didn't exist.
	And everybody was attacked, pretty much, as I would say, like Dellingpole was at the beginning.
	James, so is this a cultural problem?
	I don't think that there is a so-called rape culture.
	I think it's a very emotive phrase.
	I think most men know that no means no.
	I don't think that we've become more of a rapey society, but I think one of the points you made, you referred, I think, to the...
	we've got these organised gangs, mostly of Muslim origin.
	I think we need to...
	We all know that.
	We saw it on Tommy Robinson.
	And at the time, we had the argument that...
	There was no issues about this.
	We now know from the case report that's wrong because we've got the data.
	And we have here in Adam Wren talks about the data in there, the ethnicity of them, the total people.
	This was being used at the time to say that it's just white people were just involved in this.
	And then we come out with the national report, which is there on the link for anybody who wants to read 197 pages.
	I've gone through most of it.
	And so to cut through of it.
	And what we found very clear is on the key points, data suppression, as we know, we found the ethnicity of the perpetrators is shied away here.
	Two-thirds of the perpetrators were Muslims.
	So the argument that you saw with Dellingpole being attacked and then the efforts of people to say it was all about white people and used in reports was untrue.
	We know that there's the growth of online exploitation that's involving white girls.
	That's a key point that's come out of there.
	We've also had the fact that more about, for some reason, the legal failures.
	I might have to come back.
	Maybe I'm just coming across it too quickly here.
	Online exploitation.
	And we had this point, we saw the cases where most child sexual abuse were made up of white men, and this was the Home Office reporting itself.
	And so you got this.
	This was the basis of what you saw in a lot of attacks that were going on on particular individuals.
	And then we saw what we're doing this again coming in.
	Personally, I always like to show this one is the way that Of course I'm not.
	Seek gangs or any other kind of?
	Right, so all of that, so the evidence that was used by the media, the Guardian, the journalist was that, was based on that particular report.
	And what I found very fascinating about it is, I'm not going to do the Rupert Lowe story, we've already seen that many times, but it's the same sort of argument, why are you doing this?
	there's white people in there as well.
	And yet the great thing that came out of this report is that it showed that groups I think I've looked through some of this in the past, and even within the data that they're saying just shows, oh, it's mainly white people, even within that there are little nestled paragraphs that say, well, also it does seem that disproportionately,
	compared to the overall population within the country, it does seem to be like Pakistani men committing more of these crimes, but they'd ignore.
	All of that information.
	You're quite right.
	When you do look into this particular report, there are elements of those clear cases, but we're ignored.
	And I think if I'm going to go back onto this now, I seem to be flicking away, you then get it was Priti Patel who presided over that report.
	And if you remember what Priti Patel, she came out recently and said it was all great about the Boris wave.
	Nothing was wrong with it.
	And she also then went there was disproportionate gang offending by ethnicity.
	So the very elements within their own report, which she presided over, she was in control of that report, was ignored.
	And this is one of my key points about it, is two elements that come from this.
	But then Casey comes out.
	It basically says it is about ethnicity.
	The ethnicity was it.
	So what I wanted to look back upon is how this state built up this kind of initial idea just to challenge Tommy Robinson.
	Tommy Robinson comes out.
	He says that we've got Muslim gangs out there.
	The evidence starts coming through on Telford.
	We see it down in Norfolk.
	We know it's coming from Rotherham.
	People start to speak about this, and Dellingpole gets on TV, and then they're saying, we've got a problem with this, so we produce a report which is presided over by Priti Patel that has clauses that indicate yes, but predominantly uses data that suggests it's white men, so that the newspapers like The Guardian, that you then challenge it back.
	And I find that...
	particular kind of historical way that the civil service and the media work together to crush the idea that's why I think that 6.2.3 you know coming out on this is actually really instructive for us because just as you've talked about weapons of mass destruction and the way that they're creating a narrative that narratives is brought back to some sort of academic the academic in the Brookings who's now saying let's let's work towards you know
	And they set out that picture.
	We also have the academics, and I put in the names of that sexual exploitation case in there.
	And then if you do want to speak about it, and you do want to actually highlight the reality of what we're dealing with, like Dellingpole did in the beginning, what we'll do is we'll stick you on national TV, and we'll get you surrounded by a bunch of really liberal, oh, it's not in my backyard audience members.
	Yep.
	And they will just And even more infuriating than that is that a lot of these people do know what's going on.
	This is the same problem that I've seen with many people.
	There's two...
	they will lie.
	They will lie, they will sneer, they will insult you, so that everybody knows that this is an And I agree.
	This is part and parcel of their shtick.
	It's a way of controlling us.
	And I find it really quite And we know that the civil service are trying to protect themselves.
	That's why the report doesn't go on to a national inquiry that deals with the Home Office.
	And when you look at the conversations and discussions that were made between journalistic questions and Kemi Badenoch yesterday, even she did not accept that we were pursuing the same sort of civil servants that have already been raised concerns.
	about by Dominic Cummings.
	They're protecting their own.
	And yet we have someone like Casey who's given us the opportunity to say, no, this is wrong.
	Look back upon it.
	And that's it's It's institutionally sanctioned now, which means that some people are allowed to admit it.
	The best example that I saw, I don't know if you've got it in here, have you seen Owen Jones' about face on this subject, where there was the recent clip after this report came out where he said, it is happening and it is related.
	Absolutely.
	where he says it's not happening and the only reason that you would think it is happening is if you're racist.
	So that just goes to show how quickly these people, these cockroaches will turn when all of a sudden The correct institutions, the experts say that I'm allowed to say it now.
	That's right, and I saw it yesterday with a Rotherham mayor who said that we wouldn't have any investigation in Rotherham, but now a question yesterday was saying, well, the case report says we must have one, so therefore we don't.
	But her opinion really hasn't changed.
	You know the individual hasn't changed.
	That person can't say one thing and another and really believe two distinct elements.
	They're only doing what they're told to do.
	And that's a great word to use cockroaches about them.
	I think it's very important.
	Scuttle away.
	The second major take that I want to take from it is the blowing of this argument that asylum seekers and illegal immigrants are not involved in this.
	And I remember this came up on The Sun.
	2020 Police Scotland took down a large-scale asylum seeker grooming gang in Glasgow but kept it secret.
	Now, I would like to see anyone involved in Police Scotland go to prison for this, because I think they've aided and embedded abuse by not doing anything on that.
	But here is the point, and I'm going to try and whip through this.
	Dr. Ellie Cockbane...
	She wrote into this piece of written evidence to the Home Select Committee.
	When was it that she wrote this in recently?
	This is around between 2020.
	Oh, when the initial report came out.
	So it's coming in here, and I think I did a clip for it just because I wanted everybody to be able to see.
	What this type of individual who's regarded as an expert on grooming gangs, on sexual exploitation, on slavery, who admits that their organisation was funded.
	I think if I go back to this part here and go right to the top of it, she talked about how well we are as an organisation.
	How important we are in terms of developing it.
	And they were given there £2.4 million in research funding in 2013 and another £1.6 million.
	Now, I'd love to have been given £1.6 million to be able to investigate this and do the reports, but it wouldn't be this report.
	It would actually have been showing the truth.
	And the element that she puts out in there at the very bottom, it says, So this particular individual is able to write this report funded by the government to create a narrative that there is no criminality behind illegal immigrants committing sexual abuse and paedophilic activities.
	Because of, sorry, because of sheer ideological violence.
	Yeah, and again, one of the worst things about all of this is not just covering the crimes that have already been committed, but the fact that by misinforming people, you are allowing crimes to be committed again in the future, because people who are not sceptical, people who trust authority, will see that and they'll say, I have nothing to be worried about.
	You are misinforming them and not giving them the information they need to make the correct judgments to keep themselves safe.
	They're walking home alone at night and they might, if they'd been informed properly, choose a safer neighbourhood to go down, but they don't know that the dangerous neighbourhood is a dangerous neighbourhood and something terrible happens.
	They don't know that taxi drivers were being used to drug people and bring them across lines and transport them.
	And so what we have here again in the Casey Report, this is the discussion of live police operations.
	Significant proportion of cases involving suspects who are non-UK nationals.
	And or who are claiming asylum in the UK.
	Completely blowing the narrative of that Ellie Cockburn.
	You know, I think there's a lot of other words that we can use in her surname in relation to that, quite frankly.
	And any comments below are more interesting versions than the ones I'm allowed to say.
	But that type of individual, I find disgusting.
	I find it utterly disgusting and depraved to write a report that has led directly to policy.
	newspaper articles that have hidden the truth of the numbers.
	And so that girls and people and families have been destroyed because she's trying to keep that narrative.
	And I'm pleased about the second key point.
	I find this the second really key point about this report is to sow the seeds that it's not all white people.
	The majority are Pakistani Muslims and other countries as well.
	We now know Iran, Iraq.
	So the end of it will be cultural aspects about it.
	And again, the argument is made as if to say that, well, you have native abusers, users, so therefore...
	It's men.
	Therefore what?
	So just because we already have people who abuse people in this country, who are from this country originally, doesn't mean that we should put up with or ignore foreign populations, even if it was only a couple of people.
	We still need to deal with that as a problem.
	Yeah, and the other argument that I'm not dealing with here because Casey doesn't deal with it in particular, but it's one that I think we should deal with, is the argument it's men.
	Yes?
	The vast majority of these people are involved in men.
	I heard a stupid woman on LBC talking about how it's women and men and white people together about it.
	There were women involved.
	It's like minuscule numbers.
	It is a majority of men.
	It is a majority of men in terms of proportionality, nationally of a Muslim background.
	But it isn't men as a whole.
	The proportions of people involved in this are minuscule in terms of the percentages of men committing these rapes across the country.
	When they talk about white men, we've got a vast majority of white men who are not doing this.
	They're like us, just being honest and decent individuals, treating women with respect.
	And I've got to go and tell my daughter not to be afraid of all men, because there are those out there who are saying it's men all the time.
	Yes, men commit it, but not all men.
	But then we've got, thankfully, stark naked brief here is very good, I find, actually, bringing out some real good data from the Minister of Justice on foreign national sex offences, again showing that we've got the context of foreigners coming into this country committing it, committing the offences.
	But the one thing that I do find missing from this report is what Tom Holland raised here, is that sensitive issues of ethnicity is religion.
	That is what I call the glaring element that's not in this report.
	It is not really linked.
	They talk about men and the ethnicity, but they're not linking the religion.
	Why is it that you've got all these different nationalities, Afghan, Iranian, and Pakistanis all involved in it, although they're in a smaller level, and it's religion.
	So I wanted to just briefly go through that.
	I've gone as quickly as I could through to wrap it up, but the two key points on that at the beginning of this piece is all the key elements that people look at, but I see the fact that we can now go out in debates and honestly show that the evidence the government did on white people being predominantly involved in this is nonsense, that there is criminality from illegal immigrants and asylum seekers, and that we're very clear that religion is not being dealt with in this report.
	Well, it comes down to, doesn't it, as well, the fact that, you know, as we see recently with definitions of Islamophobia and things as such, that you're legislating against answers.
	Certain answers simply aren't socially acceptable to be given, even if they're true, but you can just write it into law that, well, we're not allowed to come to those conclusions.
	It's madness.
	I mean, I would argue the sort of ethnicities that we're talking about tend to have a pretty strong correlation with being Islamic anyway, but of course that should be mentioned explicitly in reports such as these as well, because these people are coming from countries where the people are majority Islamic, if not entirely.
	Over to you.
	All right.
	a mouse.
	Oh, yeah, but I'll take the...
	You want to take this outside, buddy?
	Queensborough rules.
	Samson, are we okay to run over for a bit, or...
	Oh, okay, brilliant.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, I should have let you...
	Oh, no trouble.
	All right.
	So, trouble in Japan, I'm afraid, ladies and gentlemen.
	Now, I just want to say right off the bat that I love Japan.
	I love their culture.
	I love their history.
	I love their aesthetics, right?
	I think there's a lot to be admired about Japan.
	And so, for the sake of your health, there's just a health warning here, don't feel the need to drink every time I say, oh, when I went to Japan.
	Because that will get very, very dangerous for you very quickly.
	But I did go to Japan last year.
	Very fortunate to go for about two and a half months, actually.
	Wow.
	Well, I was able to stay with a good friend.
	Fantastic.
	I actually cut the hotel costs straight out of it.
	But it's for that reason that, you know, being there on the ground, seeing their society, seeing the fact that I was in Osaka.
	For months and months on end.
	You know, huge, huge city.
	Did you pick up any of the language?
	Well, not on the spot.
	What does that mean?
	I can't remember.
	That's a pretty good translation of I can't remember.
	I think it means I don't understand Japanese.
	Oh, I don't speak Japanese.
	Ah, all right.
	Of course that's the phrase I remember.
	That's the habitual one that's just, yeah, I think.
	I'm going to get the comments like, no, actually, well, yeah.
	When I go again, I'll learn it again.
	How about that?
	Quiet, Samson.
	Just got mogged by Samson.
	Just got called a gaijin by the producer.
	Anyway, the point is that, just to explain it, you're in a major city, and cities are always associated with higher crime, more distrust, right?
	Trust is something for the countryside, right?
	But my experience of being in Osaka is bicycles left unlocked.
	All over the city.
	You know, umbrellas left outside your house every morning.
	You just expect it to be there.
	No one's going to run away with it.
	And cities can actually be clean, which I know is absolutely shocking, right?
	One time, absolutely perplexing, I was walking down the street and there was a girl in front of me and she just stopped dead in the road because she saw a cigarette butt that had fallen down a drain.
	And she picked this cigarette butt out of a drain and just carried it around, presumably until she went and found the bin, which are not very common.
	Can you imagine that happening in London?
	It's a very respectful thing to do.
	Yeah, it's a remarkable level of standards.
	They'd lock you up as being mentally ill if they did that in London.
	They would, they would.
	But it's that level of care for your civilisation.
	For just the city that you inhabit and share with millions and millions of people, right?
	That matters.
	It's aspirational.
	It's aspirational.
	And just as another example, I want to present to you, ladies and gentlemen, the most Japanese headline of all time, which was a Japan minister resigns after saying he's never bought rice.
	Right.
	Now this is, I wish I could just say that this, totally out of context, that this was a matter of him never eating rice before and that was, well, you have no right to represent us.
	Are you really Japanese, friend?
	He probably likes, you know, curries.
	Right.
	So, an extremely inappropriate remark at a time when citizens are suffering from soaring rice prices.
	Right.
	So, it was just him putting his foot in his mouth and then he's just decided, I can no longer work for the government.
	I'm going to retire into the mountains where I can think about what I've done.
	There was a lot of pressure because I think there were scares with earthquakes and that led to a panic buying of rice and they've had bad harvests.
	So, it's huge.
	Inflation on the price of rice.
	And so for him to say, well, I've always been given it for free, just didn't really look good as the agricultural minister of Japan.
	So he had to go.
	It's kind of like the Chris Rufo foot-in-mouth incident where he's like, well, you can just work in Panda Express.
	Yeah.
	The point is, right, our politicians have stuck around for far more serious crimes than that, right?
	So he felt the need, that's my point.
	He felt that, yeah, he's like, yeah, I've messed up here.
	So if I just go to, but one of the, if we go away from rice and to more serious issues here.
	So, right, I don't know about anime.
	I'm not an anime guy.
	My daughter will, because she loves it.
	Right.
	Loves it.
	Not a weeb, unlike Samson, who sent me a literal document earlier.
	You went there for two and a half months.
	It's kind of weeby.
	Well, I never really went in a manga store or anything like that.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
	Maybe we will settle this outside.
	But the reason I bring it up is because this voice actress here has obviously done a lot of anime work.
	She's very, very famous in Japan.
	This Megumi...
	And she has basically went and wrote on her blog about the changing nature of Japan and talks about, well, we've no rice in Japan.
	And then she just talks about the fact that more and more international students are receiving subsidies for free and Japanese students have to take out student loans.
	This is all starting to sound a bit familiar.
	So there's a prioritization of foreigners over Overnative populations.
	And I find it also interesting here.
	She says, in the midst of all this, there are some people staying at vacation rentals with no manners, foreign tourists who don't understand the idea of yielding, and even people who go so far as to scrape the bamboo in Kyoto, which I don't really need to tell anyone is a bit of a no-no.
	It says, and we don't have the regulations.
	It should be like...
	I like this.
	Pretty strong rhetoric.
	It's my kind of rhetoric.
	Maybe I am an anime fan.
	Who knows?
	Well, just because Samson would never forgive me if I didn't mention this, and also because I think there's what he's planning on doing with the thumbnail.
	So this...
	I'm not going to explain what it is.
	I don't have the next four hours to try and muddle my way through it.
	But there has been a long-standing fan debate over whether she is the best girl in the show or Asuka is the best girl in the show.
	So Samson is now saying Rey confirmed best girl.
	They're both high schoolers though, Samson.
	You dirty, dirty man.
	I was about to say, as a man who's never seen a single episode, I agree, but with that bit of information you gave me at the end, I disavow.
	So you can see here some anime fans just getting very uppity about a Japanese woman being concerned about the state of Japan.
	And so if you go here, and these are just common occurrences.
	There's more foreigners.
	Obviously added over the top.
	But as you can see, you've got an Islamic centre in Japan now.
	And there are some obvious Japanese Muslims in there, but most of them aren't.
	Most of them aren't.
	Why would they want to go there?
	It's not even a language that easy.
	Because it's safe.
	Yeah.
	Because it's safe.
	And everyone knows that Japan is famously safe.
	Because they can get subsidies.
	Right.
	Because they can get benefits.
	Because they can get all of the privileges that comes with living in a civilised nation.
	Right.
	And what I was saying earlier about littering, no Japanese person would ever do this.
	No.
	They would be beaten in the streets by every passerby.
	Yes.
	But certain people, probably not Japanese, are able to get away with things like this.
	and that's how it always begins.
	And so obviously, but one of the main immigrant groups...
	Now, so apparently the Kurds have been slowly filtering into Japan since about the 90s, right?
	And despite that, you might, well, 30 years, it must be.
	No, there's about 3,000 of them, right?
	There's about 3,000 Kurds.
	Even that is enough.
	Then that is enough.
	What you get here is that most of them are in a...
	...coward...
	And it said that there was a poll done recently, last year, and 50% of the locals said that they were concerned for safety in public, had become their number one concern, right?
	That's how much this small little, I think it's a district of Tokyo, right?
	This little district of Tokyo.
	You can tell it always starts, you know, with an enclave.
	Just a little pocket of it.
	And it's the same problems everywhere.
	Yes, and that's kind of the point.
	If there are any Japanese people watching it, I want to tell you, the reason we're all going, oh yeah, here we go, is because we've been through this, right?
	This is the entire story of every Western country for decades now, and you're just starting to speedrun it.
	And the sad thing is, though, that if your political system is anything like ours and your political leaders are anywhere near us, Because you'll have no choice.
	It will happen to you because it's being forced upon you.
	Because they'll use the same arguments that you've got an older community, that you're not producing enough babies, therefore you've got population decline, so therefore we have to bring in lots of others who come in.
	They've also had a notorious stagnant economy for upwards of 30 years at this point.
	They're always the example that is brought up by economists wanting to promote endless growth for saying, well, Japan's economy hasn't grown.
	It's still Japan.
	I would say that cultural and national cohesion is more important than Adding a few percentage points onto a spreadsheet.
	We've said that about GDP.
	It's about our lifestyles rather than what the economists think we are.
	We're declining because of mass immigration.
	people are beginning to recognize you can't get broke through the numbers.
	And Japan also does have the problem where you get not...
	I believe Samson can correct me on this because he'll know, but there's a big problem of essentially insultant, like legitimate insultant.
	I don't know the term for it, but there's a term for people who just lock themselves away from society and are known for not going out.
	They order food constantly so they don't meet other people.
	And the problem that we've experienced in the West as well is, there are studies proving this, the increased diversity from mass immigration in the numbers that we experience reduces birth rates.
	So if Japan's already experiencing that problem and suddenly begins to experience...
	That's the term.
	Hikamori.
	Thank you, Samson.
	Thank you.
	Well, also, you know, and also as well as the issue of Hikamari men, you've got...
	There's one particular thing I saw in a documentary one time.
	It was absolutely mad to witness, which was that because obviously now there's this constant push to have women, Japanese women, going into the workplace because that is...
	not having families.
	You get Japanese women, you know, between their busy lives and their jobs, just Paying for the experience of a date.
	Right.
	So rather than finding a man, settling down, having children, they'll just be like, oh, I've only got one evening free.
	Bye-bye, Harry.
	Where are we going?
	Dan's going to be thrilled.
	I think we need a show for a month in Japan so that we go out there regularly and we know we can fund it by just having regular dates.
	thumbs up.
	But one other issue I'd just like to return to with the Kurds as well is that you have differences And so you've got different types.
	So you've got the designated activities, which is where an asylum seeker is actually permitted to work in Japan whilst they're having their applications seen through.
	And then you've got provisional release, which is where, no, you're actually, you've been declined.
	But then those people who are declined are not being detained.
	So they just stick around.
	want to without jobs without and they just cause you know In the community.
	And so then you get articles like this.
	it's like why is Kawaguchi's Kurdish community under fire it's like because No, no, definitely not.
	And then it's...
	So this is the NHK, which is, for all intents and purposes, basically the Japanese BBC.
	It's state funded, it has a license fee and it has a charter because it comes from that time in Japanese history.
	The NHK comes from the 1920s when Japan was copying...
	And so they looked at the BBC and its creation for us in the 1920s and went, oh, we'll emulate that.
	So this is Japanese taxpayers are paying for this.
	And you get things here like children of Kurdish asylum seekers who grew up in Japan but cannot work.
	Sympathy articles saying, actually, Mr. Japanese man, shouldn't you feel sorry for these people?
	Shouldn't they feel more of your sympathy?
	Shouldn't you just decide to feel safe, right?
	And obviously this comes down to the fact that you have lots of...
	Right.
	So, but this all comes down to outside pressure, right?
	Passed in order to comply with the UN.
	Yes, the United Nations.
	International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination.
	The Destroy Your Nation Convention.
	Yes.
	Now, as it says here, it does not ban hate speech and sets no penalty for committing it.
	so Japanese people can still call me a gaijin, but...
	Wait, so they just...
	they just...
	It says, you shouldn't do this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	I mean, when you look at that, I mean, this is the basis of the way that we did it in 1995.
	All this is, is the first inroad.
	So it's like this stabilising piece of legislation of which all other legislation that will lead to restrictions of freedom of speech will be built.
	Oh, of course, and even, it's the same in Japan as well.
	The Japan Innovation Party, a conservative and centre-right populist party, argues the bill should be expanded.
	To include insults.
	Whereas the Lib Dem Party is against it and says, oh, we shouldn't criminalize hate speech, actually.
	It'll lead to loss of freedom.
	Which it will.
	Whereas, yeah, the commie party is saying, yes, absolutely.
	So, why is it that in Japan, like everywhere else, the conservatives want to ally with the communists to expand hate speech laws?
	God!
	It's just frustrating, isn't it?
	Yeah, so you've got between, you know, the NHK, which obviously takes money from numerous international NGOs.
	There was other articles I saw on it pushing diversity and inclusivity and all these sorts of things.
	So the Japanese people, it's neutral, but you are being dictated to about what you should or should not believe, what values.
	What are Japanese values?
	Because I believe that, aren't they the same as British values and Somali values?
	Pakistani values.
	Well, clearly, they're whatever values are being handed down to them by the UN.
	UN values.
	Otherwise, I'd have said that Japanese values included things like conscientiousness, deep feeling of respect.
	Honour.
	A lot of honour.
	A lot of honour.
	And a certain level as well of, I don't know, bravery.
	Those are the sorts of things that I would expect.
	And just generally the other ways that the Japanese people behave.
	But I guess, no, I guess it's the same globo-homo sort of views that everyone else is supposed to have.
	But, you know, it's not just the Kurds.
	It's not just the Kurds.
	And this is the real warning, which is that the ambassador of Japan to Pakistan highlighted Pakistan's strong goodwill towards Japan and emphasised the vast potential for further collaboration.
	Don't do it.
	Don't fall for it, Japan.
	Don't do it.
	You've just done an entire segment on why that will end badly for you.
	Again, another reason why we've got to get out there and talk to the Liberal Party out there and say, We'll help at a conference.
	Yeah.
	Let us show you what will happen.
	We will.
	And so you get here another one where it says that Pakistani professionals are going to become integral to Japan's workforce.
	I have a quote here from Ambassador Akamatsu, you know, the ambassador to Pakistan.
	And he said, the success of Pakistani talent in Japan is becoming one of the important pillars of bilateral relations.
	Pakistani talent has a good reputation.
	Not the word I would use.
	Not good.
	And interest in Japan is growing, so the demand for Pakistani talent in Japan will undoubtedly increase in the future.
	For Pakistan, remittances from Pakistani talent working in Japan will be one of the pillars supporting the Pakistani economy, and we can expect a development of industry within Pakistan as they bring back the skills they have acquired in Japan.
	I mean, this is just nightmares.
	So, take in these foreigners so that they can take advantage of your jobs and skills programmes so that they can take them back home.
	Which, if they would have done, they would have already done that because they've had a long time in Britain to do exactly that.
	But this doesn't happen, does it?
	Because for all that we bash Britain...
	A Pakistani person gets here and thinks to themselves, well, it's better than Pakistan, right?
	That's what they think.
	And also, the law seems to kind of protect me here as well.
	And so then there's no incentive to actually leave once you're here.
	I don't see any evidence of any country, whether it's Belgium or Holland or Germany, where you get these foreign countries, whether it's Algerian or Pakistan, that you go back and see these...
	Right.
	It just doesn't happen.
	No, it doesn't.
	And so what you have is...
	No, no, no.
	evidence.
	I was just going to say that and once you're there, of course, it's like, oh, well, I have a It's how it began in the West and it's what's going to happen to Japan.
	And to come back to your point, Harry, about, you know, the birth rates and all that sort of stuff, it's, look, Europe's population was decimated, which I know is not the technical term, but was annihilated by a third during the Black Death, right?
	But Europe sprang back from that, right?
	The Greeks never reclaimed Constantinople, right, after the Turks took it over.
	It's not demographic collapse, it's demographic change that is the ultimate obstacle to peace, prosperity.
	And it will come for you, Japan.
	And these people will not assimilate.
	It's, you know, drink.
	When I was in Japan, it was that thing that, you know, all of a sudden I was in a place that was truly foreign.
	Where no one spoke English, their culture is entirely like my own.
	And you really understand why you would feel, as a foreigner, that need to just...
	That comfort of home, it gives you that ease.
	Or you could integrate.
	right but that's maybe learn some of the language next time Luca you have any idea how hard Japanese I learned five sentences, okay?
	Five.
	In two months.
	I mean, I'm telling you what.
	That's good.
	Not even one a week.
	I will just say as well.
	It's got to be easier than Chinese, right?
	Because Chinese is all about the intonation of the way that you're saying the words.
	Whereas, is it the same in Japan?
	No, but there are a lot of words that sound very similar, that have very, very different meanings.
	Oh, okay.
	Kind of like English.
	I will just say that one of the things I got told a lot by the Japanese there was they liked me far more for being British than they would have done if I was American.
	They said they don't like Americans.
	And it's not even due to the atom bombs, they just think they're rude tourists.
	I can imagine that, yes.
	Well, that's something I've commented on as well, actually, since the whole Logan Paul thing back in the day when he went to the suicide forest.
	Yeah, he seemed to have encouraged a spate of retard streamers going to Japan to cause trouble and annoy the locals.
	And I would imagine that most of those are Americans.
	Yes.
	So, oh yes, and then that's just what I covered about the package.
	So, to round it off, Japan, don't do it.
	It's not worth it.
	It won't lead to prosperity, and it won't give you the birth rates that you're wanting from those particular aspects of your society that you want to keep hold of.
	And so, if I have one word of advice, it's listen to your anime girls.
	There you go, right.
	We'll go through the rumble rants, and then do we have any video comments?
	Thank you.
	I'll go through the rumble rant, starting from my segment.
	Darth Amalgamation says, the pause on immigration enforcement for agriculture and hospitality has been rescinded.
	Also, Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex on the website commented the same, saying the DHS has already reversed course on that.
	That's good to hear, and I hope they stick with that, because...
	Obviously, you need to be able to have something to back up your words.
	I'm not saying that you can't do that.
	The fact is that this seemed to be more than just...
	As I pointed out, the evidence seems to suggest that this has been a direct policy continuation between administrations for 20 years.
	Logan Pine.
	Here in SoCal, the ICE raids have started again.
	Fantastic.
	Fleet Lord Avatar.
	Not arresting illegals on farms and hotels.
	Reversed.
	Woke up.
	Found top pollster Rich Barris contacted by VP Vance.
	He did a stream at Locals.com.
	MAGA DOA if DTJ attacks.
	Okay, and there's a link there as well.
	Engaged few.
	And what is the common thread between the presidents who got us into the US World Wars?
	Both were progressives with decidedly pro-fascist tendencies.
	Sigil Stone, with all the whinging about not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons because then Islam will destroy Israel, Pakistan has the opportunity to do the funniest thing.
	Pakistan has nukes, and from my outside observations, they appear to be a less stable state than Iran is.
	So the idea that Iran is...
	Good point, actually.
	Yeah, the...
	Very good point.
	The idea that Iran is so insane that they'll get nukes and then immediately start nuking the territories around them, despite the fact that they know that America would immediately just glass them off the face of the earth, is ridiculous.
	The regime is shaky.
	It's uncertain of itself at the moment.
	All of its most closest allies have been taken out recently.
	It seems if they were to develop that, it would just be for the sake of their own form of deterrence, frankly.
	Not that I think that we should be proliferating nukes or anything.
	God, no.
	The engaged few.
	Trump listens to his base.
	He needs to understand that this is a deal-breaker for anti-war MAGA.
	We'll walk away from him at midterms if he does this.
	Well, I hope he gets that message before it's too late.
	Cranky Texan.
	Trump needs to listen to Tucker Carlson and Steve.
	Yeah, I didn't include that clip, but I did see the clip of the two of them talking, and they were both pretty clear on their thoughts.
	Habsification.
	We should also consider the 2011 census.
	The total male Pakistani population was 575,741.
	The estimated population 16 and over is around 400,000.
	and that's in relation to your segment.
	Ryan Hinnigan sends through two super chats saying, in 2012, conversation between Iran and America...
	Can we stop doing that, please?
	Between Iran and America, Lefty and Dave Smith, the Iranian, said Persian nationalists cheered when Trump assassinated Soleimani, loved him, but turned when Trump threatened cultural sites.
	Groundwork for the regime change was laid back then.
	Not justifying war, but it may have popular support in Iran, and Trump himself could get it to stick.
	No foreign entanglements, just devil's advocates.
	And yeah, I absolutely believe that that is the case as well, but frankly, whenever it engages with in how it assaults their territories.
	They do seem to not care all that much about civilian casualties, and the more Israel causes civilian casualties, the more the population of Iran will rally to the state if they believe they're the only people to protect it.
	Whereas, you are right, if they were much more targeted and kept it just to the people that the Iranians already distrust in their own government, that probably could get a lot of popular support, especially given the US would be at the That's a random name.
	"Remember every single person who participated in this?" Referring to the grooming gang scandals.
	Every cop government worker and that cock-bint wench is going on the list of people to...
	Cranky Texan.
	They didn't include religion in the reports because they hate religion, but only when it's Christianity, otherwise it's precious and must be protected.
	Sigil Stone, despite being just 13% of Ronin, Kurds make up 50% of Dishikis.
	Amazing comment.
	pretty great you engaged few how do you say bite the pillow in Japanese and head Behave you lot.
	Ikikomori.
	Yes, thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	That's a random name, don't worry, Gents, I volunteer as tribute to single-handedly rebalanced Japanese birth rates.
	In fact, I'll also sacrifice myself to help Korea, a true martyr.
	You'll have great success in Korea, given they try and westernize their appearances anyway.
	That's a random martyr.
	Yes.
	Ryan Hannigan again says, female black American Air Force friend of mine studied abroad in Japan, always received positively.
	Japanese said, French tourists caused a lot of problems and Japanese couldn't tell the difference.
	So maybe they were just being polite.
	Maybe they say that to everybody.
	Yeah, and then when American, oh, I can't stand those Brits.
	You know, as soon as I got off the plane at the airport as well, I thought, oh, thank God, Japan's so far away from Europe.
	First thing I heard was like, five French guys.
	I was like, no!
	And finally, Anhedonism says, "By the way, Gaijin is pronounced Gaijin more accurately than Gaijin, but it is pitch-based, not tonal language, so it's the best approximation I can give you." Gaijin.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Well, the fact that I can't pronounce it right makes me even more of one.
	Let's watch through these video comments.
	I think this is an insane meme.
	Oh Dan, maybe a reference from nearer your time will make you understand.
	Douglas Adams' comedy series The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy proved that nothing can ever happen because the population of the universe is in fact zero.
	Five.
	Population.
	None.
	It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, but that not everyone is inhabited.
	Therefore there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds.
	Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds.
	That makes sense.
	I remember reading the first one, and it is quite a charming little book, so I need to read the rest of them.
	Oh, no, they're good.
	I read them when I read them.
	Love them.
	Love them.
	God, it's ages since I think about that.
	Oh, this is beautiful.
	Good morning, Lotus Eaters.
	To try to go a little bit further up the Sunrise Mine Trail than last weekend, I decided to stay the night on the mountain in the South Seattle Special.
	A ratty blue tarp over my hammock strung between the trees and tackled the trail early in the morning.
	I got to see my first pika of the season, sometimes pronounced pika.
	These little guys are one of my favorite alpine animals.
	Needless to say, this was a tough climb.
	I'll tell you guys more about the trail tomorrow.
	I'm going there one day.
	Thanks very much for sharing that with us.
	That's some proper rugged adventurer exploration right there.
	I like it.
	And that was a very cute little animal.
	And now, a woman who claims to be from over 70 years in the future.
	Subscribe to my OnlyFans.
	Oh, dear.
	Oh, dear.
	What prompts did you have to put into AI to generate that for you?
	I was going to say, that's a brilliant one.
	Brilliant.
	Have we got any more, Samson?
	Oh, yep.
	Why buy a Chinese-made, electrically-powered water filter distiller from Amazon when you could have made in Britain, gravity-fed so no electricity, will take the fluoride out...
	This is perfect.
	No electricity.
	It will filter rainwater.
	It's the best thing ever.
	Best thing I ever bought.
	Buy it now!
	I hope you got a fair commission for that advertisement.
	It does sound good.
	I won't lie.
	And let's go for a few extra minutes as well for the written comments on the website.
	We'll go till quarter two.
	Tristan Scribner says, Harry, this is Callum-level tomfoolery.
	I thought you were better than this.
	No, in Callum's absence, I've slowly had to become him, and the same will happen now that Josh is gone.
	I am like absorbing their essence.
	Derek Power, master of chippies, also says, Thank you, Harry, for the two minutes hate in the beginning.
	I hope you got it all out of your system.
	No, we've already addressed that.
	Justin B, with the similarities between this and Iraq's WMDs, there is another thing to consider.
	The messenger, a lot like last time, a lot of people do trust the messenger, and the majority of the critics are people who would be against them.
	Anyway, it later became clear there were no WMDs, and Blair's reputation took a hit, even with people who supported him.
	If it comes out that there are no nukes, then Trump's reputation will plummet too.
	And that's the problem as well.
	Blair had a domestic policy which wasn't But still, he had a domestic policy.
	Bush!
	Had a domestic policy.
	What do most people remember both of them for?
	The foreign policy entanglements.
	So if Trump wants to cement his legacy in the future as a president who did put America first and left a good legacy for people, then not getting involved in foreign policy entanglements is the right thing to do, which is something that he seemed to understand at least during his first term, Although he was quite belligerent as well during that first term.
	Buana Joe, please stop saying Iraq didn't have WMDs.
	It did.
	WMDs are NBC, nuclear, biological, and chemical.
	Iraq had biological and chemical weapons.
	They previously used them in other conflicts.
	If they had nuclear or the start of nuclear, we may never know.
	The UN inspection teams would let the Iraq authorities know which sites were to be inspected so they could gain access.
	Inspection teams go in as trucks go out.
	Maybe nuke materials, probably not.
	The truth is we, the public, are never told the truth.
	Well, if they did ever find...
	Thank you for sending in the comment.
	That's interesting.
	It was my understanding.
	Understanding that WMDs were basically being used as a euphemism for nuclear warheads.
	And that was what was being done.
	And the evidence that was presented after the initial conflict was New York Times journalists and other people going to sites where they presumably found these Nuclear warheads and pointing at them in very, very blurry images that didn't show anything clearly.
	I think there's enough books out there that I've read in the past that showed it really was old fantasy.
	If they did have...
	I appreciate his comment but the evidence doesn't go that way.
	I do think that when the conflict started and we gained access to their sites and we enacted regime change they would have provided concrete proof of Unfortunately, the light comes here, so you're going to have to read a couple.
	Okay, that's all right.
	Dirty Belter says, My worry with the rape gangs is that the government will sort it in the same way they have sorted Brexit.
	That is to say, they will sort it on paper, in some technical manner, but the real material problem will continue.
	This will then be used to guard against a real solution.
	Why do you care about Brexit?
	We already left the EU turns into.
	Why do you care about the grooming gangs?
	We already made them illegal.
	I do.
	I do.
	I'm concerned about this.
	That is definitely a very fair concern.
	Russian garbage humans.
	So one in 16 Pakistanis in Britain are pedos.
	I'm curious how Riku and the Home Office will run containment on this.
	Maybe send 1,000 imams to the rape crisis centres.
	Interesting point.
	That is an interesting point.
	Just to add to that, I have Although that is a bit conspiratorial, but it's not beyond the kind of level of media coordination that we've seen in the past as well.
	And KFC Bucket says, how can we share a nation with the people who are willing to cover up the rape of children?
	Great question.
	Good point.
	Okay, so Anon Imi says, Mass immigration will be far worse for Japan.
	Japan only has a relatively small percentage of habitable land.
	It's why they concentrate into cities.
	In fact, the cities spill into each other.
	Yes, yes.
	Now add mass immigration.
	Very, very true.
	I've seen maps of Tokyo and it's impossible to believe how bloody huge that city is.
	It's enormous.
	It's just, it's like, it's the closest to Coruscant.
	You could possibly get.
	There's no end in sight to it.
	Canis Familiaris says, That's brilliant.
	Fabulous.
	Incourageable frog.
	Apparently it's common in Japan for people to carry around a little plastic bag for all of their rubbish throughout the day.
	There aren't any bins in the street, etc.
	They just take it home.
	Interesting.
	Furious Dan, it's time for the weebs to put their money where their mouths are and move to Japan.
	Fill up the immigration slots with people who actually respect the culture and solve the birthright crisis.
	I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this, but liking anime doesn't constitute loving Japanese culture.
	There's a bit more to it than that.
	Also, what you're saying is really is to fundamentally change the genetic and ancestral makeup of the Japanese people as well.
	Oh yeah and that Which is you know And Michael Dribeldis, well done, Luca.
	You've learned the most important Japanese phrase.
	I don't understand Japanese.
	That was it!
	That's what it meant.
	Luckily, since we're both gaijin, the Japanese don't expect us to speak the language well.
	Not at all.
	All right then.
	Well, that's everything we've got today, folks.
	We've run over a little bit, but I'm sure you don't mind seeing as you got through quite a few of your comments there.
	So thank you very much for joining us today, and we'll be back tomorrow at the usual time.
	So till then, take care.

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